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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2316999]Overweight view varies. I would say 3 or 4 of the 5 girls I saw were over weight by my standards. I do like quite slim and 45 Kilos is a good weight for me, maybe 50 to 55 for a taller girl. My Mrs is short and 50 kilos (at one time 39 kilos), so not yet overweight but not skinny any more. Blonde Anne with teeth braces at Lolly-tas as example was quite slim and very hot ass. Well known June at Snow White and Bongkot was quite slim, even Cherry at Mango slimmish, so that is my size preference (all different heights but slim). Even found some nice slim girls at Annies (repeatable): Aor (Oar), Pheung and forget the names of two others. Ha ha. Maybe should not mention that. All great reliable girls for me and either good face or good body, and sometimes both, no chubbies for me.
Can't guess what you intended here: "Nina has pretty strict standards for both looks and service". Are you saying she is pretty but restrictive or procedural? Perhaps not.
No one seemed to go so far as to say Kiss was pretty (or Alice), and also not much comments about surgery levels. I need to see girls before book them. Sounds a bit difficult unless show up at starting time.
I understand girls can get tired and worn out. I always used to try to get girls at the start of their work shift as a tactic to get fresher girls, and if they just came back from holidays, jackpot as they could even be quite horny. I recall an extremely lack lustre session with Vodkha at Cherry was it, years ago, who was supposed to be good. Was so bad we never even got to fuck. I concluded she was probably "fucked out" most likely. Just seemed to be mucking around aimlessly in the room. She made me angry and that is unusual.
I don't really rate massage shops as good or bad, unless they don't have any decent aircon (I put up with a lot in rooms), and does not even matter to me if papasan / mamasan is a complete dickhead, only matters what particular girls are like to me. It's all about the girl, and having an amazingly sexy body and well above average face, helps a lot for me. I guess value for money matters a little bit.
So I guess you say Kiss became lacklustre and I guess not value for money any longer. Mileage may vary as always.[/QUOTE]Dude its only a few thousand bhatt and we already gave you pretty much all the info you need.
This isn't a psychatrical lounge where you have to list all your fuss and we have to pat your back and find all the right words to reassure you this place is meant for you :) Besides none of us are shareholders of this shop.
From what you said Kiss has the best look, I'd say Nana has a more involved attitude as she isn't as popular as Kiss and has to work harder to satisfy. I only saw Alice when a customer went with her, she looked nice too but less slim than Kiss or Nana since you seem to be focused on that. As for Sophia she looked taller but face wasn't as good.
This leisure of ours is hit and miss, just give it a try and give a feedback when you're done.
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Dokidoki.
Reading these and previous on doki doki I think I need to include a visit on my next trip.
Curious about the 4-hander. I'm assuming the post massage session includes both girls too. Do we have a price on the 60 and 90 min 4-hand sessions?
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2316999]Can't guess what you intended here: "Nina has pretty strict standards for both looks and service". Are you saying she is pretty but restrictive or procedural? Perhaps not.
No one seemed to go so far as to say Kiss was pretty (or Alice), and also not much comments about surgery levels. I need to see girls before book them. Sounds a bit difficult unless show up at starting time.[/QUOTE]Nina is in my opinion the best owner / manager of a massage shop in Thailand. Its not easy to put together a line up of all good looking girls but she has done a really decent job. What she has control over is the standard of service and here she has trained all the girls to deliver an experience that has made this the most successful shop in town. Its true Kiss could not maintain that fresh enthusiastic service she was known for in her early days but it is still good enough to be constantly almost fully booked, It is admittedly pricier than your average oilie but cheaper than the competition in the nuru gel space E. G. Mitu.
It is not true that nobody said Kiss was pretty in fact most posts say the opposite, she is very cute nice body (maybe not to your somewhat exacting specs) and a sweet personality.
As some other poster suggested S. If it's taking this much effort to give the place a try maybe you should just forget it.
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This leisure of ours is hit and miss, just give it a try and give a feedback when you're done.[/QUOTE]Yes we all know is hit and miss, I just need a standard of looks before I even bother.
Average looking girls don't turn me on. My dick would not stay up, most likely.
I always write reports on girls tried with a fair level of detail about why the girl was good for me, e. G. Slim, pretty, fun, enthusiastic etc.
I like it if others also attempt a level of detail, rather than just saying what events occurred in the room. I have been answering questions for years, so I don't think is so strange for me to ask a few detailed questions, which happened to be more about looks and enthusiasm more than service skills. I will try a girl if any takes my fancy.
Pity the website cut the heads off. Is it so tough when I ask which girls are pretty, slim, and preferrably no silicones and no bad nose jobs? This would then allow me to know which girls should be met (not met so far). Then I would take the punt to see if we went well together. I do like a Nuru body slide with a slim pretty girl. No one has to answer the questions if they don't appeal personally.
I will indicate if I find any pretty or even cute girls next visit. I am not lazy to give detail but learned not to give blow by blow accounts, since that makes us very identifiable. Girls read ISG and also stupid ISGers show them reports too.
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[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2309663]I tried lek, never again.
I tried some by nana on soi 4.
And a couple other dives I will have to look up the names.
But no luck, I could get a better massage in the USA.
So I must be going to all the wrong places.
I paid $70 plus $10 tip at lek for hot stone.
I don't like to spend that much.
So are there any good places for under 500?
I don't want sex or HJ.
My only idea was find the spas in the high end hotels, but I was afraid it would be 5000.
Many thanks.[/QUOTE]Try one of the big chains like Healthland or Let's Relax. Good spa experience and doesn't cost that much more than one of the mom and pop shops. Think 2 hours Thai massage is 800 Baht. Soi 24 (don't confuse it with Soi 24/1 which is the naughty Soi) also has some decent places. Go to the places that look a bit more like a proper spa rather than a simple house putting a neon-light massage sign out.
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Doki Doki.
A follow up. Doki Doki on all digital platforms do not show the girls faces. When you show up at the shop you will initially be shown the girls on an Ipad but on request available girls will line up. Problem is the popular girls like Kiss and Alice are almost never available on a line up due to bookings. To see the face you need to make a booking, Kiss usually starts at 10 and I would recommend an early time slot before the heavy pounders tire her out. Alice usually starts at 2. It is I imagine possible before you pay which is upfront to have a face to face and decline the session if you find a nose slightly out of alignment a thigh gap not up to spec or some other personal turn off.
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[QUOTE=Jack130;2302980]Hey,
Anyone know a good salon with proper massage and handjob finish? I don't want those kind of massage at soi 23 where you can see at the entrance that it's only for finish and where girls don't know hot to do proper massage.
I want a real massage with the little plus even if the therapist is not beautiful and a little bit aged I'm OK!
Thanks for your tips guys![/QUOTE]I'm looking for the same! So many places back in the days. Now it seems hit and miss.
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[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2309663]I tried lek, never again.
I tried some by nana on soi 4.
And a couple other dives I will have to look up the names.
But no luck, I could get a better massage in the USA.
So I must be going to all the wrong places.
I paid $70 plus $10 tip at lek for hot stone.
I don't like to spend that much.
So are there any good places for under 500?
I don't want sex or HJ.
My only idea was find the spas in the high end hotels, but I was afraid it would be 5000.
Many thanks.[/QUOTE]90 min aroma is like 1800 THB in lets relax and 1500 THB at urban massage (available at asoke and phrom phong bts).
I prefer urban massage, not only it is cheaper than lets relax but the massage are much better these days (let's relax is expending too much and seems to be less reliable than before on the therapists experience).
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[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2309663]I tried lek, never again.
I tried some by nana on soi 4.
And a couple other dives I will have to look up the names.
But no luck, I could get a better massage in the USA.
So I must be going to all the wrong places.
I paid $70 plus $10 tip at lek for hot stone.
I don't like to spend that much.
So are there any good places for under 500?
I don't want sex or HJ.
My only idea was find the spas in the high end hotels, but I was afraid it would be 5000.
Many thanks.[/QUOTE]My go to for a massage is Tarntip on 7/1. Tip is my favorite there. 300 Thai 500 oil good facilities and massage skills.
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[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2309663]I tried lek, never again.
I tried some by nana on soi 4.
And a couple other dives I will have to look up the names.
But no luck, I could get a better massage in the USA.
So I must be going to all the wrong places.
I paid $70 plus $10 tip at lek for hot stone.
I don't like to spend that much.
So are there any good places for under 500?
I don't want sex or HJ.
My only idea was find the spas in the high end hotels, but I was afraid it would be 5000.
Many thanks.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you've been getting ripped off everywhere you go. First the GoGo girls and now bad experiences at the massage place. Sounds like you have to change your approach.
Massage recommendations are more YMMV than FLs and bar girls even. Everyone's body is different, so some may like 1 style of massage and not like another; some may like firm vs soft; other may like the massage but come out with a glowing review just because a HJ was received at the end.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2317699]My go to for a massage is Tarntip on 7/1. Tip is my favorite there. 300 Thai 500 oil good facilities and massage skills.[/QUOTE]Oops make that Nid is my favourite, Tip is a girl I met recently in one of the Hillary bars on 4. Who unfortunately didn't deliver as she promised and I expected resulting in a heated exchange over payment. I put it down to the amount of drink she had consumed. Doesn't happen to me very often but somewhat unpleasant when it does.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2317530]A follow up. Doki Doki on all digital platforms do not show the girls faces. When you show up at the shop you will initially be shown the girls on an Ipad but on request available girls will line up. Problem is the popular girls like Kiss and Alice are almost never available on a line up due to bookings. To see the face you need to make a booking, Kiss usually starts at 10 and I would recommend an early time slot before the heavy pounders tire her out. Alice usually starts at 2. It is I imagine possible before you pay which is upfront to have a face to face and decline the session if you find a nose slightly out of alignment a thigh gap not up to spec or some other personal turn off.[/QUOTE]I think to show up at starting time is best advice and see the girl arriving, if get lucky. Could apply to many shops.
Suprising how many MP girls I booked because I just happened to see them on the street arriving to work, or leaving. Initially I did not know which shop they worked in. Saw super hot Bai Fern on Soi 26. I followed. She went into Yoremichi, so my first visit to that shop. She was fabulous GFE and perfect body. She left before long, rumour was got married. Gaew at Pink great face and stunning body, seen arriving on motorbike, probably when I was leaving Mango (many years back). Sonya seen sitting outside Orient again when leaving Mango most likely. One skinny girl seen on motorbike on Sukhumvit road turning into Soi 2. Turned out she worked at Annies. I had only a faint suspicion initially, but saw the motorbike stop around Annies. No. 4 I think, name is gone from memory now. Finally the stunning model Angie (Angie Jan 2014 not the subsequent Angie) who lasted such a short time at Cherry seen arriving, shy and not that skilled (as a newbie) but she got into with the DATY.
So many of my favourites came from meeting them outside in daylight, accidentally, I. E. Not originally intending to go to that particular venue. Walking around, you can gt lucky and see something exactly your spec. Sometimes unlucky when turns out they are not an MP girl nor a hooker. I don't like to bother girls if not sure they are on the game.
Only very few girls became a regular after seeing their pic on a website, so website pics are not at all like seeing the girl outside in daylight. I can only think of one regular acquired after seeing her extraordinary web pic. I have to omit this name for her privacy reasons.
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Doki doki rates.
I got email from doki advising rates.
60 min 2 girl /4 hand - 5500.
90 min 4 hand - 6500.
Am tempted as a special treat, bit pricey maybe.
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That's it.
It takes a lot to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off but Doki Doki will never see me again. For various reasons I had already decided against ever going back but as I've been somewhat singing their praises of late I booked Alice for a 4 pm session. Nice friendly welcome and then "sorry no rooms available can you wait 30 minutes "which as anybody familiar with Thai time knows could be anything from 30 minutes to 90 minutes. I left pissed with them not having kept a room with a confirmed booking but walking back along 31 I tried to calm down by recollecting the old restaurant joke "nobody goes there anymore it's too crowded".
Anyway headed to paradise on 22. OK first lets get what on offer there straight. On their web site they offer a massage that reduces prostate gland swelling, ensures the flow of pure blood, prevents accumulation of bacteria and keeps glands in perfect condition. It explores satisfaction in a whole new way improving the sexual life of a person all of this by highly trained therapists. This is pure bullshit. What is it really, I'l tell you, a finger wrapped in a rubber glove up your ass no more no less. The rest of what goes on is standard oilie service. But its OK, a little pricey because of the hype but the girls are above average in looks and generally give you a good time. Incidentally I picked Ice, skinny as a rake not terribly experienced but tries damn hard to give you a good time.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2318034] On their web site they offer a massage that reduces prostate gland swelling, ensures the flow of pure blood, prevents accumulation of bacteria and keeps glands in perfect condition. It explores satisfaction in a whole new way improving the sexual life of a person all of this by highly trained therapists. This is pure bullshit. What is it really, I'l tell you, a finger wrapped in a rubber glove up your ass no more no less. The rest of what goes on is standard oilie service. But its OK, a little pricey because of the hype but the girls are above average in looks and generally give you a good time. [/QUOTE]Ha ha. Cracks me up. Advertising BS, like tits enlarging crème or cock growing pills. One has to be a bit sceptical about some of the fancy services, or should we call it realistic. "Highly Trained Therapists" ha ha.
In other places, Milking tables probably have highly trained therapists too. The thrill of getting cock sucked by an unseen hag possibly. I would be worried about them switching to a LB if I can't see who is sucking my cock.
For me, if I really like a particular girl, I will put up with a level of annoying management or mismanagement, even annoying rooms to an extent. However the girl has to be pretty good to justify putting up with shit. So many MPs have crappy papasan, or crappy receptionist, or lack of due care.
I hate it when they insist to speak bad English to me in some shops too, especially in relation to important details about what time the girl and the room are available, and is the girl actually present or not. The bullshit "10 minutes" which is really 50 minutes is bare faced lying, but quite typical of Thai behaviour for some reason.
I have even caught my GF telling her brother on the phone that we are in a taxi on the way, when we clearly are not, still waiting to get a taxi. Maybe only time ever could prove she was lying but does happen. This behaviour is seen as absolutely normal for Thais. Hard to understand why they need to do it. Other girls tell us shit really regularly, for no apparent advantage. I simply have to give girls a time limit sometimes. Like if do not show by this time, then its a cancel. One of my regulars is always at least 1 hour late, so I allow for that from the start. Occasionally get a surprise when shows before expected, I. E. Not quite 1 hour late.
Lying to customers would seem to be a way to lose business, yet Thais will do it so easily.