Angeles City

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1806779] snip .... At the end of the day I'm paying them, and they want me for my money that's it.
You want to know how these Filipino girls really feel about you. Don't pay them or give them any money and you will find out real quick. .... So at the end of the day I always look at Angeles City as Disneyland that is it![/QUOTE]Well said. Another thing you can do to find out if your sweet little lover REALLY likes you is to tell her you don't have any money before she comes over. Then see if she still wants to come stay with you. This works well when you want some space from the one that keeps texting or calling. In the past, I had some that came anyway. But of course it was still dinner and drinks. And yes, later you will get a call asking for some help. So it's better to give them something for their effort.

[QUOTE=XMan;1806955]Currently, I'm rather "smitten" with a regular PI gal, even though I'm not in Phil.

I need someone to slap some sense into me. X man.[/QUOTE]Westie,

I volunteer for this as XMan will enjoy if I do it LOL. But would XMan like the accessories as well? LOL.

As fro smitten. We get there, have the T shirt etc. This explains why you are sometime quiet when in Cebu?

Yes, and for dessert give her the schwantztooka. I have no idea what the grandiose horseshoe is but I am curious as to what part of the country this comes from. Cheers.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1807049]Well said. Another thing you can do to find out if your sweet little lover REALLY likes you is to tell her you don't have any money before she comes over. Then see if she still wants to come stay with you. This works well when you want some space from the one that keeps texting or calling. In the past, I had some that came anyway. But of course it was still dinner and drinks. And yes, later you will get a call asking for some help. So it's better to give them something for their effort.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Socker;1806838]What difference does it make? Everyone will live their lives. So this eloquent explanation about old newbs is old news.

You or any other monger is no better than one that makes the right choice or the wrong choice. Some people need to make the wrong choice in order to find the right way, BFD!

Fucking talk about what's happening on the ground there. This grandiose horseshoe is just that fuck.[/QUOTE]Well said, Socker, let's focus on what's happening on the ground. That's more useful to us.

I just finished my first trip to AC and must say it meet all my expectations and even surprises me in a few areas. I'll touch on a few things before the trip I heard that bar girls are saying no.

And ID walk the whole street to mad faces to that I say that was wrong every bar I passed they begged me to come in. Girls saying no nope that's not case from what I read on hear you would have thought that there isn't.

Any girl and that it's a 2-1 ratio nope 30-1 and most of the men don't even bar fine they sit there bull shitting drinking the cheapest beer looking for a deal that's the white men I observed. Then you have the groups.

Of Korean guys who sit talking for hours with the girls and buying lots of drinks, and then maybe taking them wtf. I pointed those to groups about because the make up most other mongers in AC with.

Older former military black men a few and a couple groups of Muslims. Another thing I realize was that the dollhouse is one of the most mention bars on here but for me it like the 5 or six best bar.

The only thing I notice from there was no condom no problem that might be why it's mentioned so much. People said there a bunch of fat girls nope the only fat girls I saw for most part work a you guessed it the dollhouse and even then.

There were a couple of lookers in the group. I did however see one thing that long time ac mongers would see contributing to the claim "bad" attitudes of girls and that the money for nothing.

Like when in the dollhouse I witness a guy same guy twice in one night throwing money from the second floor to stage which had the waitresses and dancers scrambling. So I have to say to everything I read on here before my trip.

That those people who keep getting know are either really fat which means you probably smell bad and are cheap to which I say of course the said know to you. I kind of bounced around on the report but I tried so if so one has a.

Specific question ill try to answer.

[QUOTE=XMan;1806959]I don't know what this means. What English language sect uses and / or understand this? I hope you can provide some kind of translation. BTW, it doesn't sound very friendly.[/QUOTE]Yeah I was a bit gruff but shit, is this the AC Forum? I don't have the big education some of you have but at least I know where things should go.

After a few years of being here you should know what's important. The # 1 rule is post your comments in the right forum.

MY TR.

I was in AC last month but only for 2 nights. On my first night after changing some dollars I was walking back to Pacific Breeze around 9 pm, a group of door girls literally pulled me into their bar. Well it's always nice to get out of the heat so I had a beer. I spotted a keeper but she never looked my way. Then she starts doing some dirty dancing w / another dancer. I'm thinking they look pretty damn good but was only interested in the first one. She came over and sat w / me and was very nice, and she was very pretty. She wanted me to take her friend and so I did.

In this medium level bar they wanted 3000 p which I was surprised to hear. Normally the big glitzy bars have the 3000 p BF, but not in the new AC, the dumpy bars are also charging 3000 p. Anyway, I took them both and they were amazing. Nice tight fucking, vibrator flying all over, pussy eating, laughing, posing, and I finished w / the hot one cowgirl me while the other was on my side kissing the shit out of me. It was a world class 3 some. These two were pissed I only had one vibrator.

The next night I ended up on Fields Ave after an afternoon scoping out the Perimeter bars. I saw some nice items in LIA, not much in AS, after a few more bars I headed back to Fields Ave. Much later I ended up in Arcadia (Nemesis), these bars are changing their names every few months it seems, so now it's Arcadia. I saw a nice spinner and she said all the right things. I BFed her and we bar hopped and when we got to the room she shut it down. I thought we were doing well but I guess not. I reacted right away and we walked back to her bar so I could get my 3000 p back. Of course there was no manager there and so they told me to come back the next night. I left Arcadia and as I was strolling to wherever I spotted a long hair beauty and asked if she would go w / me. She was ready and willing and so she came to my rescue. I was extremely lucky to find a replacement so quickly and quite a beauty she was too. The nude beauty standing in my room was a FL I found after returning the dud from Arcadia.

The next day I had to leave and so I lost that Arcadia BF. Here are some pics from my recent visit. The Arcadia dud is in the white pants. She would have been an excellent squeeze too, f-ing bummer I didn't get that.

To be honest I have a tendency to drink too much beer. During a night of hunting and then barhopping w / my new GF it is hard to restrict myself, 1. I am having fun. 2. The bars are constantly pushing drinks on you. 3. The waitresses and mamasans are constantly asking that you to buy them drinks. 4. More drinks if you want to talk to a dancer on stage. So I get carried away by all of this many times on the hunt. I always tell myself to cool it but I always have a few too many and buy a few too many for the mendicants. And so.

Maybe I should excuse myself for putting up a Angeles City trip report in the AC forum. Excuse me all of you literary giants for my clumsy but honest effort.

Here are a few pics of my time in AC last month. It will take 10 hours from the time I click the upload button to the time they are posted by ISG.

Now, find the vibrator.

Perhaps, we're a being a bit hard on the bar girls. After all, there are soulless pinays who never set foot in a bar that are just as conniving ruthless and greedy as the most hardcore bar girls. The bar girls are honest because they let the guy know upfront that he must pay for fuck before leaving the bar. If the guy deludes himself into thinking it's some kind of love affair then that is entirely his fault.

Foreigners would like to kid themselves into thinking that Filipinas working normal jobs or who belong to the middle and upper classes have no financial and visa motives. They desperately want to believe the mythology in the Philippines that the old foreigner is a sexy man desired solely for his good looks and sexual prowess. In many so-called successful marriages between Filipinas and foreign men, the foreigner is turning a blind eye to being cuckolded because the house and the business are in the wife's name. He realizes that rocking the boat may leave him penniless and deported in his old age or murdered in a staged home invasion and robbery. So, he pretends everything is nice and dandy at home.

As for marriages between mongers and bar girls being a disaster, it should be no surprise. Mongers make terrible husbands and fathers. A monger is not the kind of man who forms lasting attachments to women. He is not the kind of guy who sticks around and works out problems in relationships. If a woman is not working out for a monger he gets rid of her or, if he is really cheeky, he starts fucking other women on the side once more. This is not the type of attitude that makes for a long and successful marriage where compromise and self-deprivation for the great good of the family is a key requirement. Perhaps, one can't turn a ho into a housewife, but it is equally ludicrous to think that a woman can make a ho-monger a husband.

As for the young Aussie giving away money he couldn't afford to women he never met, well I wouldn't worry too much about guys like that. You will never be able to change his way of thinking because he really believes it is his job. It gives him a sense of purpose in life to sacrifice himself for women who do not care about him. It is not altruism otherwise he'the be giving that free money to rice farmers plowing their fields under the hot sun to buy fertilizer and seed stock. It is the sense of self-importance and being a hero he gets from being scammed by the damsel in distress. He will not last long in the Filipino culture of mendicancy and lack of empathy towards foreigners. They will bleed him dry until he can no longer visit the Philippines or send them money. At that point all correspondence will stop and the women will move on to more profitable targets leaving him bitter and wiser. Philippines expat and travel forums are littered with guys like this telling tales of how Filipinas scammed them.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1807147]As for marriages between mongers and bar girls being a disaster, it should be no surprise. Mongers make terrible husbands and fathers.[/QUOTE]Bar girls make terrible wives and girfriends. It is not apparent that Mongers make terrible husbands and boyfriends. It is psychologically impossible for a woman to be a good wife and also sleep with other men, but it is perfectly possible for a man to be a good husband and father and also sleep with other women.

That relationships with bar girls tend to be disastrous does not imply that all relationships with Filipinas motivated by money or visas are likely to be disastrous. Putting assets in your wife's name is of course likely to be disastrous, but if anything less likely to be disastrous with filipinas than with American women.

A filipina girl who does not care to do it in the dirt with is likely to remain virgin for a long time, because surrounded by kin, because of lack of privacy, because boyfriends cannot afford a nice hotel room. So a man who can afford nice things may well look sexy to her. In particular, seems to me that a lot of filipina girls get very turned on if the hotel room has a really nice hot shower and cool air conditioning, a hot shower with a great big overhead sprayer, not one of those little show heads.

So you are wearing socks in bed? That's bad behavior haha but nice pics though.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1807049]Well said. Another thing you can do to find out if your sweet little lover REALLY likes you is to tell her you don't have any money before she comes over. Then see if she still wants to come stay with you. This works well when you want some space from the one that keeps texting or calling.[/QUOTE]Absolutley agree! If a date gets too clingy, asking for support outside her "leaving fee", then I sadly explain that I just lost my job. Go thrown out of my appartement and have no money to spend anymore.

Surprisingly many are holding on but asking:"You found a new work already, hun? LOL.

Asian guys who visit angeles are the ones that mostly have it 100% correct.

Asians mainly beleive Bar girls are to be used for fun only, fuck her, pay her and forget her, most want short time only, do your buisness and get rid of her.

If they should want to get married they will marry a 100% good girl, normally of their own race and normally a virgin.

Here in thailand I have many thai friends, from manual workers to top professionals, not one of these married a bar girl, none.

I worked in the phills for an international company, met pinoys of all backgrounds both professional and not, guess what not 1 person I know married a bar girl.

Yes both married thai and pinoy would have mistresses but went for mistresses that were working normal jobs and of the same standing as themselves.

Yet I have a whole heap of western friends who married bar girls, why is this, would they marry a prostitute working back in their own country, no they would not, its one of lifes mysteries.

Of western friends that married asian bar girls most were happy for the first while but I do not know even 1 who is still married or even on talking terms with their ex wives, most if not all have lost large sums of money between marriage and divorce.

I have 2 british friends who married pinays, both met them while working together, are of similar age, and from what I can see are very happy indeed, they work, their wives work, they pool their money together to pay for bills, eating etc, no demands from their wives for endless money for sick relatives, house building for mummy, or the sick baffalo.

Morale of the story, bar girls young enough to be our daughters / grand daughters are in it 100% for the money, nothing more, nothing less, use them for what they are designed for, sex and pleasure, pay them and forget them.

Want to get married with a prostitute, then you better have very deep pockets if you want her to be happy and provide pussy once in a while, be absolutely sure, once the money runs out then she will be off with the next mug who has money,

roll on the guys who will be assuring us YES BUT MY ONE IS DIFFERENT,lol

[QUOTE=RedDogger;1807263]Bar girls make terrible wives and girfriends. It is not apparent that Mongers make terrible husbands and boyfriends. It is psychologically impossible for a woman to be a good wife and also sleep with other men, but it is perfectly possible for a man to be a good husband and father and also sleep with other women.[/QUOTE]WTF?

How can it be impossible for one, but possible for the other?

If your wife is doing everything you expect of her, takes care of all your needs when are home, etc. , how is her going out for some sex while you're out of town any different?

It's more reasonable the wife having sex on the side is better able to still be a good wife, than the man remaining a good husband. The wife probably isn't spending money for sex. The wife probably values the comfort and security more than some random guy.

However, lots of men will drop the wife and kids for a younger model. In the process, he'll often spend way too much money, not only breaking up the family, but leaving everyone impoverished.

You're right about bar girls not making good wives, but the blame goes both ways.

The bar girl has only known flirting and working men to get money. If she's aby good, she's used to lots of attention and nice hotels. After a few months, her new husband is no longer giving her much attention. Instead of nice restaurants and nice hotels, she's expected to cook and clean. Instead of having her own money, she's on a budget. She quickly becomes bored, lonely and frustrated.

The monger gets her back home and starts learning the downsides of having a hot young wife. His friends all want to lay her. Their wives are jealous and worried of getting the boot for a younger model. His family is worried he's a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord910][CodeWord910][/url], or they are prejudiced. He also finds out she can't cook, won't clean and just wants to watch TV all day.

It's not a recipe for marital bliss.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1807427]WTF?

How can it be impossible for one, but possible for the other?.[/QUOTE]Men are polygamous, women are hypergamous.

If a man had his way, he would have a dozen wives and rotate them through the main bedroom two at a time. A woman, however only wants one man at a time. Problem is that that man is not necessarily her husband, and not necessarily a man who has the interest or the time to spend much time with her or to be a father to her children.

So if a man is sleeping with other women, he still wants to sleep with his wife, so the marriage will continue fine. If a woman is sleeping with other men, does not want to sleep with her husband, so the marriage will break up.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1807403]Morale of the story, bar girls young enough to be our daughters / grand daughters are in it 100% for the money, nothing more, nothing less, use them for what they are designed for, sex and pleasure, pay them and forget them.

Want to get married with a prostitute, then you better have very deep pockets if you want her to be happy and provide pussy once in a while, be absolutely sure, once the money runs out then she will be off with the next mug who has money,

roll on the guys who will be assuring us YES BUT MY ONE IS DIFFERENT,lol[/QUOTE]Buying sex pleasure from girls is the oldest trade for human civilization. In normal sense it is very impractical to getting merry a sex service girl but it is happening around the world. I have seen an Indian guy get married a girl was belongs to red district area. I have seen in Dongguan, a Chinese guy get married a KTV girl and having kid. I met some girls still lurking on beach road in Pattaya, showing their rings proudly to visitors confirming they get married some westerners who are just sitting apart. I think It is nothing to be Asian or non Asian issue. One common thing I observed all the guys married to sex service girls, they are more or less thrice of the girls by age. It is something male psychology or physical behavior. Still I did not arrived on that age nor I am an expert in this issue; so I don't know on that male age how the young girls pull up our dead sex apatite. Certainly some girls and men are getting their sex chemistry. That's why "Yes but my one is different".

Some are brave enough to get marry them. They don't care what coming next; it is more important for them what they having right now.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1807403]Asian guys who visit angeles are the ones that mostly have it 100% correct.

Asians mainly beleive Bar girls are to be used for fun only, fuck her, pay her and forget her, most want short time only, do your buisness and get rid of her.

If they should want to get married they will marry a 100% good girl, normally of their own race and normally a virgin.

Here in thailand I have many thai friends, from manual workers to top professionals, not one of these married a bar girl, none.

I worked in the phills for an international company, met pinoys of all backgrounds both professional and not, guess what not 1 person I know married a bar girl.

Yes both married thai and pinoy would have mistresses but went for mistresses that were working normal jobs and of the same standing as themselves..[/QUOTE]I think a lot of locals from Thai or Philippines Just have common sense (Street Smarts), where as a lot of my western friends have a lot book smarts but lack common sense. If you are looking for a wife, or a life time partner, you don't get a Bar Girl, That is like going to a StripClub or Backpage / Craigslist to look for a wife. You have to be crazy to wife a women that sells her body to the highest bidder. If your going to find a lifetime partner, Try to find a women that has a normal job and does not sell her vagina to just any random person she met 5 minutes ago. (Strippers, Bar Girls, and Pornstars) Do not make good wives, They usually come from a mess up childhood ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], Child abuse, bad parenting). Thank God I never fell victim or was stupid enough to marry a Bar Girl, To me I just could not trust a women that all I have to do is pay $35 to have her pussy. I would rather try to get the girl that works a Mcdonalds, or at a Bank, At Least she has morals and a Job and did not choose the easy way out, Just like I would tell a tourist that is visiting the United States.

If I know a guy is visiting the United States and he was looking for a wife, I would tell him the same thing, Don't go to a Stripclub or Get a Escort. Try going to a normal club or try finding girls that work at the Bank or Mcdonalds. You stand a better chance then dating a girl that sells her ass for a living.