Santo Domingo

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3040455]Are you saying no one should go to Santo Domingo, and instead we should all go to Sao Paolo? Because, otherwise, you're not adding much value here.

SD / DR is a fantastic destination that's easy to get to for men on the East Coast. A single flight that's cheap enough that you can make it a long weekend, instead of having to save up the time and money to take the longer trip elsewhere. It's also a really low-pressure way for guys to dip their foot into mongering, too.

The price for girls there is marginally higher than in other, more popular destinations. But, the days of $20 pussy are going bye-bye everywhere. Bar girls in Pattaya are in the same price range, more or less. Colombia is cheaper, but costs more to get to, and safety is a bigger issue than DR. So, there's always trade offs.[/QUOTE]No, I said pratically the same thing then you just wrote, it worth it for the short and cheap flight but not for the dollars spent by ladys. In thailand you still can get cute girls in theirs 20's for 50 $ and the same girls would ask 200 in DR.

Again if to plan is to not waste 12 hrs and 1000 $ in a flight I suppose DR is better, but it depend where you are living. If you live in Florida I agree, the flight are very short and not expensive. From the west coast you can get fligth to thailand for 800 $ and to go to SD its like 500 $. But the flgiht to Bkk is 2 x longer. You do the same math to go in south america and for the same amount of time you can get a lots better bang for your dollard in Brazil and Colombia then in SD these day. My point was is that DR changed a lots in the last 20 years and the price sky rocketing a lot more then in other sex destination but not the quality. the girls are trashy and their pimp are always near and not discrete at all. And yes its helping because someone who ask info about DR I am seriously going to suggest him to consideer other destination.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3040463]
I consider most of these girls semi-pro in the truest sense, and I think that explains the mentality. They'd prefer to fuck 2 guys a week and make 10000 pesos, than fuck 10 guys at 3000 pesos a pop. They're not trying to fill out their appointment spots. They do hair, nails or some other BS job and have their kids to deal with in between taking a few hours to make a quick buck.

Side note: that college student you got for 6000 for a couple rounds sounds exactly like my kind of time. I'd say at least 50% of Tinder girls are selling pussy, and more than 50% of those are like that girl: just looking for extra money here and there. I get so much mileage out of these link ups. 3-6 hours and overnight sessions that just feel like hanging out with a girlfriend. Great sex. Just a good time overall.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's pretty much what that chica said. When I was chatting with her on Tinder and asked her what she was looking for, she said "I'm looking for someone to have fun (used the word "diversion", which I quickly figured out is code that many of the chicas use for "sex") with and help me out with my things. If that interests you, we can talk".

What you said about "3-6 hours and overnight sessions that just feel like hanging out with a girlfriend. Great sex. Just a good time overall" sounds like my kind of time, too, if I'm comfortable enough with a chica and we have chemistry. If I wanted to spend overnight with one, or go to a beach, or out dancing, or some other date, I wonder how much she and others would want for that? Guess I'll have to ask them if I get that desire, when I go back to Santo Domingo next week. Trip previously provided his formula for semi-pro date prices, so that's probably good to use as a base to come up with an offer.

Thanks again for your input and experience. Are you an ex-pat, or do you just have many trips to the DR under your belt? Keep safe and enjoying the good life!

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3040463]Arguing over 1000 pesos ($15) in the middle of the night in your apartment is really not smart. There's just too many ways this could have gone wrong for you. If she caused a scene and started breaking things, you will be in for a hell of a time. Because, how do you get her out? And don't let the cops show up, because they will side with HER!

It just isn't worth the hassle.[/QUOTE]And this begs the question, how much would it have to be in order to be worth the hassle? What if she said he owed her 10,000 or maybe even 15,000? Should he still be willing to be extorted for that amount in order to avoid conflict? What is to stop her from asking for 40,000?

The only time in DR that the cops have shown up when I had an issue with a hooker, they sided with me. And I did place the report here. Once when my brother got into it with some chicks, the police took him in. But when they figured out the chicks were full of shit, they let him go and went to arrest the chicks. What is your experience of them siding with HER just for the hell of it?

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3040455]But, the days of $20 pussy are going bye-bye everywhere. Bar girls in Pattaya are in the same price range, more or less.[/QUOTE]As I have always said, you pay what you negotiate. Here in Pattaya I met a girl in a bar last night. I told her to come over when she finished work. She said pay bar fine and I go with you now. Fuck that tourist trap shit. She was talking about going to the club after work. I told her fuck that shit. Shortly after leaving her bar, she sent me a message asking how much I would give her. I said I do not know. She said $47. I countered with $40. I went to her room to pick her up at 1:30 am. (I was busy before.) I took her home this morning at 11 am.

The days of $20 pussy are going bye-bye only if you are playing the tourist game. If you think normal local guys in DR are paying $100 for some pussy then you are sadly mistaken. Better to learn how to shop how they shop. Just like when I stepped off the cruise ship in Jamaica. I went to the shops they had built especially to rip off tourists. I asked the lady how much was a bottle of rum. She said $17. Fuck that shit. I have sense enough to know there are no Jamaicans paying $17 for a bottle of local rum. I went outside and asked a random local where to buy liquor. He said go to that corner and turn left and there is a supermarket 100 yards on the left. Went in there and bought the same exact bottle for $5. I went back to the tourist ripoff place telling the lady I just bought this rum for $5 at the grocery store. She said I just work here; I don't make the prices.

It is the same way when I get on those chivricas and skokka in DR. Broad tells me 4000. I tell her that is too damn much. She asks how much I want to pay and I say 2000. Deal. I am not saying it works 100%, but you have to negotiate instead of agreeing to the first price you are told.

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3040511]After she took the 6,000 and stormed out the door, I didn't expect to hear from her again. But the next night she messaged me "I'm mad at you". The day after that, she messaged me again with a frown emoji. The day after that, she messaged me again with a waving Hi emoji.[/QUOTE]Dude they play that game to get you to pay more. She already knows 6000 is a lot of damn money. But if you are a big spender willing to pay 6,000, might as well see if you will pay 7,000. I have friends making 13,000 the entire month. If you think that chick was letting a 6,000 peso golden goose such as yourself get away, then I guess it only took you a few hours to find out that she was not.

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3040511]Thank you for all the great input and perspective, I really appreciate that.

You're right, arguing with her like that was risky and probably dumb. Even though I joined the hobby two years ago, I still feel kind of new at this and make mistakes. Luckily for me, she wasn't too crazy and aggressive about it, she seemed more like a middle-class mom than a hood rat. And I tried to be as calm and logical and polite as I could to try to keep the situation from escalating, and I emphasized how much I enjoyed our time together, even though she was pissed off.

After she took the 6,000 and stormed out the door, I didn't expect to hear from her again. But the next night she messaged me "I'm mad at you". The day after that, she messaged me again with a frown emoji. The day after that, she messaged me again with a waving Hi emoji. I think she realized that the angry way in which she ended the night had messed things up with a potential long-term customer, and was trying to smooth things over. Since previously I had told her that I was looking to find a chica that I have good chemistry with, to see on a regular basis. I didn't message her back at all, until after I had returned home from the DR. But she wants to see me again when I come back. We didn't talk about what happened, but if I see her again, I'll make sure we can come to an agreement on all terms and price beforehand. I liked her (and I liked her huge tits and ass), so she's probably worth 7,000 in the end if she takes good care of me in bed.[/QUOTE]I see two fairly common mistakes there.

First praising her performance, LOL.

They are not like us! Closest I ever got to being ripped off in 17 years was when I picked up my dream freshie off the street, no questions asked. I knew I'd hit pay dirt, even if she just laid there and let me have it.

One of the best sessions ever. My mistake was telling her so and arranging to get more.

She snapped and insisted, I give her another 1000 or so because she was worth it, and wouldn't leave till she got it! I sobered up right then and we stalemated for 15 minutes or so, when she said call the police, and I pretended to.

She eventually chickened out, when I offered her another 400. Posted a report about it here years ago. For me it was a win win, because she was worth it, LOL. But nothing to build a relationship on.

The other thing is, once bitten twice shy. Most problems happen when you soften up and give them another chance to fuck you up. A no no!

Down here. It's one strike and you're out, not two or three!

As usual IMHO and YMMV.

You should've been paying attention to the reports given like myself and etc. If you're dealing with an o line escort she's going to want more period! I a 3000 pesos is an insult to a woman selling pussy online. That's like Zona Colonial street walker pricing. Even though this is not the Sousa Thread. The women there want on the average 4500 pesos. It'll start off at 5000 pesos I heard women in Sousa give guys a 8000 pesos price quote. Personally I caution guys bringing hookers back to their hotel rooms or Airbnb because when she's scamming it's going to be a problem while most guys tell you to record her behavior so you can use it as proof to the police. It doesn't work they just going to want $500 on the spot from you or if you refuse to pay $1000 when you go see the judge in the morning and you'll have to pay a lawyer also. You can always walk away from a rent a room when she starts talking crazy.

I never brought pussy online before in the DR but I can say I'll except 7000 pesos to be the bare minimum to pay and online rich guys got that type money going on in a country were the average man can not afford to pay for sex 2 times a month!

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3040463]The one thing that gave me pause was this:

Arguing over 1000 pesos ($15) in the middle of the night in your apartment is really not smart. There's just too many ways this could have gone wrong for you. If she caused a scene and started breaking things, you will be in for a hell of a time. Because, how do you get her out? And don't let the cops show up, because they will side with HER!

It just isn't worth the hassle. Women don't honor deals. The phrase you'll never hear is "A woman keeps her word".

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The harsh fact is that 3000 pesos is not a lot of money in the DR anymore. It just does not stretch very far. I'll blow 5000 pesos at Nacional just picking up groceries for myself for a few days.

Also, there are wealthy Dominicanos and business travellers who have no issue paying 8000+ to get exactly what they want. So, you're competing with that in the online game..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3040688]As I have always said, you pay what you negotiate. Here in Pattaya I met a girl in a bar last night. I told her to come over when she finished work. She said pay bar fine and I go with you now. Fuck that tourist trap shit. She was talking about going to the club after work. I told her fuck that shit. Shortly after leaving her bar, she sent me a message asking how much I would give her. I said I do not know. She said $47. I countered with $40. I went to her room to pick her up at 1:30 am. (I was busy before.) I took her home this morning at 11 am.

The days of $20 pussy are going bye-bye only if you are playing the tourist game. If you think normal local guys in DR are paying $100 for some pussy then you are sadly mistaken. Better to learn how to shop how they shop. Just like when I stepped off the cruise ship in Jamaica. I went to the shops they had built especially to rip off tourists. ...

It is the same way when I get on those chivricas and skokka in DR. Broad tells me 4000. I tell her that is too damn much. She asks how much I want to pay and I say 2000. Deal. I am not saying it works 100%, but you have to negotiate instead of agreeing to the first price you are told.[/QUOTE]Both of what Mr Enternational and ChrisD are each saying make sense to me, in context. As ChrisD pointed out, I was doing outcalls with these chicas to come to my place. So I understand that requires more time and effort on their part, as well as some money in the form of taxi fare or gas for her car. And if I understood correctly, Mr Enternational, the examples you provided were all incalls? That makes sense to me that the price for that would be less, since the chicas have it easier with you coming to them at their own location, and logistically they could fit more guys into their schedule in a day.

Also, all of the chicas I was talking to I met on Tinder. The Tinder chicas are probably used to connecting with / looking for tourists, so they can charge more. While the escort sites like Chivricas and Skokka that you mentioned, I assume are used more by locals, so the starting prices on these sites would be lower (and could be negotiated down even lower).

I think attractiveness / class can also be a factor in pricing, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that the chicas you've been with at these low prices were all attractive and clean.

So, in context, it makes sense to me that 5,000 to 6,000 for outcalls from Tinder could be considered a good price point. I actually felt proud of myself for being able to negotiate for more time / polvos with some of these interactions. But clearly from your examples, 3,000 and even less for online chicas in SD is still attainable.

I think my big take away from this discussion is that if I want lower prices on my next trip (going back next week), I should:

1) Try to arrange incalls.

2) Try the local escort sites.

3) Learn how to negotiate more ruthlessly, and be prepared to simply move on to the many other available chicas if one won't budge on her price or tries to change the terms of the deal.

Did I get all that right?

On the last Thursday of October, I went down to the Zona Colonial late in the afternoon to visit a museum. After I was done with that, I walked down the street in the early evening to check out Casa Paco's. The place was absolutely packed with people. As was mentioned in this thread in the past, there were certainly many African-American gentlemen there (the "WiseMen" perhaps?) So, I knew I had found the right place. All of the tables were completely full, so I grabbed a stool at the counter and ordered a drink.

After a while, a couple of seats opened up at some tables. But strangely, I felt shy and awkward about going over and just grabbing a seat with a bunch of guys who don't know me, even though I knew what they were probably there for. It's unusual for me to be that socially hesitant, maybe I'm just out of practice. Whatever. So I just stayed at the counter and continued to observe the place, and messaging friends and chicas on Whatsapp.

At one point, a heavy-set Dominican guy with a beard and a baseball cap came to sit next to me and introduced himself as a barber. He showed me a catalog of his work, and I thanked him but said I wasn't looking for a haircut yet. Then he asked me if I was interested in chicas, and I told him sure. He said he had a discreet spot with several chicas, available for massages and full service: 1,500 for a half hour, and 2,500 for an hour. He then showed me some pics on his phone of smoking hot chicas who looked like escorts / strippers / instagram models. He invited me to come check it out, no charge, no pressure. I decided to YOLO it and go with him, while having my spidey sense up to be aware of my surroundings and ready to avoid any potential trouble.

He walked with me down the street and around the corner, until we got to his barber shop. He told me to go ahead into the back, and he'd tell the chicas to come out. 2 skanky-looking ones showed up and tried to move me into one of the massage table rooms, and asked me to take my clothes off so they could give me a 5-minute demonstration massage, no charge. I maneuvered myself to where they couldn't corner me, and asked to see a presentation of all the chicas there. They brought some more out, maybe about 7 in total. They were all ugly, some of them fat and ugly. Why advertise 10's when you're pedaling 3's?

As I started to leave, the barber asked me what was up, and I told him these chicas were nothing like the photos he showed me. He said okay, no problem, and asked his friend (or employee?) to take me to another place with better chicas. I YOLO'd it again, and found myself following a tall, jacked Dominican dude with dreadlocks, down the dark streets of the Zona Colonial at 7 pm. I was ready to bolt at any moment, since I felt that this guy could easily beat the shit out of me if he wanted to mug me. We walked maybe 15 minutes, with little talking. At one point he asked me if I was looking for a chica to "stay with" or "short time". I guess he meant if I wanted a chica for the whole night, or just a quickie? I told him "both sound good to me".

So, the place he took me to was Foxy's. There was only one stripper there at the time, a real knockout with braces. One of the guys working there invited me to sit down and I asked him some questions about the place. He told me that there would be many more chicas showing up after 9 pm, and that the price was $120 for an hour. While we were talking, the one chica was dancing in front of me, bending over and waving her sexy ass in my face to try to get my attention, LOL. I thanked them and told them I'd come back later (but didn't. Maybe next time).

I thanked my guide and told him I'd catch an uber back to my hotel. He told me it wasn't safe for me by myself down there by the Malecon, and said he'd walk me back to where we were so I could get a taxi / uber in a safer spot (he meant in front of Casa Paco's.) On the way back we got to talking about a bunch of things: current events in the DR, in the USA, politics, crazy people. He ended up being a very cool guy. When we got back, I thanked him and gave him 200 for his time, with another 200 that I asked him to pass on to the barber for me. He seemed very surprised and pleased by that, and asked to exchange Whatsapps.

When I got back to my apartment, I messaged the pro who I had that 3 AM booty call with previously to come over again. She had been trying to see me again, and I had told her "maybe Thursday", and well, it was Thursday. She told me "you're a man of your word". During our first encounter, she wanted me to put a condom on for the BJ, but I told her that I really prefer it without a condom, and that I'm very clean. She gave me a look, but went ahead and gave me the good ol' oral natural. On this second night, she went right down to giving me a BBBJ with no fuss. After the first round we relaxed and talked about whatever: reality TV, beef between rap stars, racism in the US, etc. - and we had good rapport. She told me she wanted to get a breast reduction; I told her that would be a crime and forbade her from ever doing it. Then we went at it for round 2, and after that, we had that argument with her demanding more money than the 5,000 I had agreed to pay earlier (which I wrote about in a previous post).

Some more details I've remembered about that: She said it wasn't fair because we did it twice (even though I told her I wanted to do it twice for 5,000 before she came over), and that she needed more to pay for her son's school and other bills. I told her I was already giving her a lot, "and my friends here told me that 3,000 is the standard price". She got upset at that, and said "Honey, we're not all the same, some of us are more than that". I replied, "Yes, that's true. Some charge more than that, and some charge less than that. But 3,000 is the average. And I'm already giving you twice that much". That's when she took the 6,000 I had handed her and left all pissed off. I wish the interesting night could have ended without that sour note, and I could have instead fallen asleep to the happy memory of having her huge titties swaying in my face while I was cumming.

Still, it was an interesting and memorable night.

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3040965]He walked with me down the street and around the corner, until we got to his barber shop. He told me to go ahead into the back, and he'd tell the chicas to come out. 2 skanky-looking ones showed up and tried to move me into one of the massage table rooms, and asked me to take my clothes off so they could give me a 5-minute demonstration massage, no charge. I maneuvered myself to where they couldn't corner me, and asked to see a presentation of all the chicas there. [b]They brought some more out, maybe about 7 in total. They were all ugly, some of them fat and ugly. Why advertise 10's when you're pedaling 3's?[/b].[/QUOTE]LOL. That is what it is all about man. I keep telling y'all ain't shit on El Conde. Are you a believer now?

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3040953]I think my big take away from this discussion is that if I want lower prices on my next trip (going back next week), I should:

1) Try to arrange incalls.

2) Try the local escort sites.

3) Learn how to negotiate more ruthlessly, and be prepared to simply move on to the many other available chicas if one won't budge on her price or tries to change the terms of the deal.

Did I get all that right?[/QUOTE]Perfect. I always have a car so I go to them. It adds to the adventure. I like the way you told old girl the deal. She left pissed because you know too much now. Don't be surprised when she calls you back ready to take the 3000.

Dude never go to those types of places. It's what some will call a 6000 pesos trap! I written a very detailed report on getting a massage on El Conde man almost all those places scam. The prices are very well hidden and they finally admitted that the prices was 6 mil. People don't visit El Conde because of guys like that. The police is only around to get some fine money from out of you bro when shit goes south and I'm literally talking about in the honey hunnies! Way more than Santo Domingo minimum wage.

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3040965]On the last Thursday of October, I went down to the Zona Colonial late in the afternoon to visit a museum. After I was done with that, I walked down the street in the early evening to check out Casa Paco's. The place was absolutely packed with people. As was mentioned in this thread in the past, there were certainly many African-American gentlemen there (the "WiseMen" perhaps?) So, I knew I had found the right place. All of the tables were completely full, so I grabbed a stool at the counter and ordered a drink.

After a while, a couple of seats opened up at some tables. But strangely, I felt shy and awkward about going over and just grabbing a seat with a bunch of guys who don't know me, even though I knew what they were probably there for. It's unusual for me to be that socially hesitant, maybe I'm just out of practice. Whatever. So I just stayed at the counter and continued to observe the place, and messaging friends and chicas on Whatsapp.

At one point, a heavy-set Dominican guy with a beard and a baseball cap came to sit next to me and introduced himself as a barber. He showed me a catalog of his work, and I thanked him but said I wasn't looking for a haircut yet. Then he asked me if I was interested in chicas, and I told him sure. He said he had a discreet spot with several chicas, available for massages and full service: 1,500 for a half hour, and 2,500 for an hour. He then showed me some pics on his phone of smoking hot chicas who looked like escorts / strippers / instagram models. He invited me to come check it out, no charge, no pressure. I decided to YOLO it and go with him, while having my spidey sense up to be aware of my surroundings and ready to avoid any potential trouble...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MwenByen;3041367]Dude never go to those types of places. It's what some will call a 6000 pesos trap! I written a very detailed report on getting a massage on El Conde man almost all those places scam. The prices are very well hidden and they finally admitted that the prices was 6 mil. People don't visit El Conde because of guys like that. The police is only around to get some fine money from out of you bro when shit goes south and I'm literally talking about in the honey hunnies! Way more than Santo Domingo minimum wage.[/QUOTE]Of course, I knew that the combination of what he was saying and what he was showing to me was too good to be true. But I was curious. And I thought that, just maybe, there was a chance that this fat Dominican barber might actually be the Pussy Genie finally come to reward me for all my good karma.

I've been back here in SD for 4 days now, staying at a hotel right on El Conde. I've seen each day and night quite a few chicas here working the street, not swarms of them, but they're definitely out and about. Sometimes in pairs and groups. And some of them actually look good. And then there are others who definitely do not look good. And others who look like they have nice bodies, but old faces.

One of the good-looking ones looked similar enough to a chica who sent me a like on Tinder, might have actually been her. We both did a double-take as we walked past each other. I haven't matched to chat with her on the app yet, and I didn't have time to stop and chat her up there on El Conde. But it would be interesting to do both and see what kind of price she offers on the app vs on the street.

Also been seeing many mongers of all colors, ages, and body types hanging out at various El Conde establishments. Besides Casa Paco's, they be doing the people-watching and chatting at the Cafe Roma Pizzeria, the French cafe next to that, and other spots.

So far, I've been sticking to my long backlog of Tinder chicas for meets at my hotel. On this trip, all of them have been asking for $100 US as their starting price. Usually for just 1 hour. I've been able to negotiate them down to 5,000 pesos for 2 to 3 hours, with oral natural and multiple pops. The ones I've met up with so far have been really good to me. Very cute, sweet, and giving me the best GFE I've had in the Dominican Republic so far.

If you were to stay in Nanco, you'll hear horror stories from the local residents how people in the tourist zones try to fuck the tourists over and how the police resolve the issues.

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3041841]Of course, I knew that the combination of what he was saying and what he was showing to me was too good to be true. But I was curious. And I thought that, just maybe, there was a chance that this fat Dominican barber might actually be the Pussy Genie finally come to reward me for all my good karma.

I've been back here in SD for 4 days now, staying at a hotel right on El Conde. I've seen each day and night quite a few chicas here working the street, not swarms of them, but they're definitely out and about. Sometimes in pairs and groups. And some of them actually look good. And then there are others who definitely do not look good. And others who look like they have nice bodies, but old faces.

One of the good-looking ones looked similar enough to a chica who sent me a like on Tinder, might have actually been her. We both did a double-take as we walked past each other. I haven't matched to chat with her on the app yet, and I didn't have time to stop and chat her up there on El Conde. But it would be interesting to do both and see what kind of price she offers on the app vs on the street.

Also been seeing many mongers of all colors, ages, and body types hanging out at various El Conde establishments. Besides Casa Paco's, they be doing the people-watching and chatting at the Cafe Roma Pizzeria, the French cafe next to that, and other spots..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3040511]Thank you for all the great input and perspective, I really appreciate that.

You're right, arguing with her like that was risky and probably dumb. Even though I joined the hobby two years ago, I still feel kind of new at this and make mistakes. Luckily for me, she wasn't too crazy and aggressive about it, she seemed more like a middle-class mom than a hood rat. And I tried to be as calm and logical and polite as I could to try to keep the situation from escalating, and I emphasized how much I enjoyed our time together, even though she was pissed off.

After she took the 6,000 and stormed out the door, I didn't expect to hear from her again. But the next night she messaged me "I'm mad at you". The day after that, she messaged me again with a frown emoji. The day after that, she messaged me again with a waving Hi emoji. I think she realized that the angry way in which she ended the night had messed things up with a potential long-term customer, and was trying to smooth things over. Since previously I had told her that I was looking to find a chica that I have good chemistry with, to see on a regular basis. I didn't message her back at all, until after I had returned home from the DR. But she wants to see me again when I come back. We didn't talk about what happened, but if I see her again, I'll make sure we can come to an agreement on all terms and price beforehand. I liked her (and I liked her huge tits and ass), so she's probably worth 7,000 in the end if she takes good care of me in bed.[/QUOTE]Don't read too much into it. It was all a shit-test. From asking for more money, to everything else. A lot of guys would cave and give in to whatever they want. So it fucks them up when someone doesn't play their silly games.

Not engaging with her and her emotions was the best approach after the disagreement. You held frame, and removed your attention. Women just can't handle that, and I'm sure her brain was working overtime trying to see if she fumbled.

Aside from the arguing over the money, the rest was handled fine.