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[QUOTE=StapleStable;2144682]I suppose if you've been there a lot, the story changes. For me, I go very rarely, so I'm still like a kid in a candy store.[/QUOTE]Sharks was good for my eyes on 2014, became exceptional in 2015 for casting, I'm sure it was then the best casting in Germany and could compete with Globe until Easter 2016, when Karin and Katalina left, Katalina to Globe. At this time, model Megan was not so busy on beginning of 2016, but became after some top beauties left. On end of 2016, Sharks became numerous GND factory, where can sometimes find a beauty, but who are the new Megan, Karin, Hessen superstar Katalina, Andrea. Bu, Dina, Carla, Agnes. Pol? Casting improved a bit on Autumn 2017, but not anymore the best casting for me, even compare to Oase at the moment.
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[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2145003]Switzerland is way better than Austria, but I am not sure Germany is any longer. We have to wait out the power struggle, as I reported and theorized with the new law it has given the girls an opportunity to upsell, I can't believe why some mongers thought nothing would change.
However if no mongers give in to the upselling, it might revert to almost normal but of course the law gives girls a pretext, in Germany I frequently have to do 1 hour rooms instead of 30 minute rooms.[/QUOTE]For sure, can find high GFE level top beauties at Globe, like Kate / ex Hessen superstar Katalina, nearly 30. Maybe best casting seen was at small History Basel Liestal on Saturday 17 December 2016, with Mady, Lorena, Andrea, Amelia and another one. Only 17 girls, but 5 top beauties, frustrating because I could only have rooms with Mady, Lorena and Andrea. I missed Amelia and never saw her again at History. I don t have this problem when I visit Sharks, but to find a girl I want to pay for.
When I paid Megan 150 for 1 h30 in Hessen, my present for her, makes me pay her now 420 CHF, and she could ask me 70 CHF more, because we were over 1 h30 , but she is still honest.
Wellcum. At had high level casting on last summer, I found a top GFE Romanian Eve, passionate kisser, 6 rooms in 4 days between Wellcum and Zoncolan. On third room, after kissing for more than 10 minutes, she gave me pillow to put under her ass, laid on her back, opened her legs, waiting I worked for her, I needed to drink for my climbings. 70/30 mn, 1 hour rooms with her.
Can find high level girls in Switzerland, Austria and Germany. I only choose with my eyes, I don t care about others girls. When I found a girl who really attract me with her beauty and behavior, even sometimes she is not high potential on first room, no problem, I will work to make her improve for my tastes, to become my weekly girl. I enjoy when they welcome me when I arrive, when they will to please me, and my manners with them and weekly driving from so far, value them. Just win-win business. Then, I have great girls in Germany, and still despite new law.
FKK land is toys store for men, and You get from girls, from how You behave with them. Paying is not all, manners also pay, and usually prevent from upselling.
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Not really.
[QUOTE=RogueNation;2145039]Pay the girls in German FKK the same rate as in Globe and you will get the same good service. It's that easy.[/QUOTE]Quite a few people think this, but this is not true. The Globe is quite expensive, but it has a few sister clubs which are a lot cheaper, around 70 to 80 Euros a half hour. The Service is incomparably better on average. In Switzerland you generally do not have to worry about picking the wrong girl who you will regret going with, you can essentially use looks alone as your criteria.
The reason is, the matron of World seconds this, is that the legal boundaries around prostitution are wider than in Germany. Employers can set expectations for the girls and penalize them if they do not follow through. In Austria even less is permitted than Germany, so the service levels tend to be in this order.
Switzerland, Germany and Austria. If it is just about money, how do you explain the generally horrible service in the Amsterdam RLD vs Germany? The money is the same.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2145039]Pay the girls in German FKK the same rate as in Globe and you will get the same good service. It's that easy.[/QUOTE]An assumption I can't share reading and being told that the selection criteria by management of Swiss clubs prior to give a girl access (and also during her stay) obviously should be much more severe compared to German clubs in order to guarantee that the money spent by customers is well invested. As a result the ones not matching these criteria come to Germany where meanwhile the clubs seem to be happy to secure daily revenues welcoming quite every girl ready for competition within the line-up. Thus regular customers of Swiss clubs ought to argue that these are only girls of second if not only third class.
In Sharks the competition is tough but the women known for providing a very good service (without asking for an outrageous countervalue but also for the regular „historical“ price) are making their rooms. The young, pretty tweeties however fight all agains each other to catch the greenhorn customers from abroad and th ones who obviously have eyes like horney dogs being surrendered by girls they only know from the magazines hidden under the carpet in their home bedroom.
Funny, I try to imagine some well known low performers in Sharks becoming the perfect room mate for one hour paying in advance at least 200 Euro. Put a cherry on the cake and the uneatable becomes not only tasteful but delicious.
Illusion is priceless. All other issues can be mastered" by yourself and your wallet.
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[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2145129]Quite a few people think this, but this is not true. The Globe is quite expensive, but it has a few sister clubs which are a lot cheaper, around 70 to 80 Euros a half hour. The Service is incomparably better on average. In Switzerland you generally do not have to worry about picking the wrong girl who you will regret going with, you can essentially use looks alone as your criteria.
The reason is, the matron of World seconds this, is that the legal boundaries around prostitution are wider than in Germany. Employers can set expectations for the girls and penalize them if they do not follow through. In Austria even less is permitted than Germany, so the service levels tend to be in this order.
Switzerland, Germany and Austria. If it is just about money, how do you explain the generally horrible service in the Amsterdam RLD vs Germany? The money is the same.[/QUOTE]Yes, club Swiss Dietikon close to Zurich, Globe small brother, where rate is 89 CHF / 30 mn, not much more than 80 €, with same GFE level than Globe for 140/30 mn, just less girls, about 15, but better for me to find only 1 top girl who will make my day, repeating with her, than not to go with 100 GND with many who ask for 100 for 30 mn without having real GFE level. Also History Basel Liestal for 100/30 mn but when Lorena kiss You, looking You in the eyes, her eyes saying: Love me, and her heavy natural tits to caress, she really did worth my money. Megan said she doesn't want to return to "everything for 50 €: kissing, licking, asking for DTBBBJ, fucking multi positions, guys." Nearly 1 year for her new business at Globe. 140 minimum + 95 for entry + 10 for lockers.
Girls don't all worth same rate. There are beauties to dream with, I like to work with them to build them for my tastes and games, they worth more for me than GND You can see in each street corner, so, no dream, just for sex, no interest.
But in FKK land, I find dreamed girls. Don t lose time and money in la Junquera. SP, more expensive and far below Germany.
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[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2145129]Quite a few people think this, but this is not true. The Globe is quite expensive, but it has a few sister clubs which are a lot cheaper, around 70 to 80 Euros a half hour. The Service is incomparably better on average. In Switzerland you generally do not have to worry about picking the wrong girl who you will regret going with, you can essentially use looks alone as your criteria.[/QUOTE]I think that in Switzerland the service level depends on the club. Globe is doing better than other clubs. In Globe no girl will stay if she doesn't provide good service or if she is not reliable. The owner of the chain is almost daily in the club, he knows exactly what the situation is. As well, the main supervisor will make sure that the girls don't fiddle with their phones if they are in the club and makes sure that all the other club rules are respected. Sometimes I think that they are pushing the girls too hard, but it's the number one club for a reason.
The situation is a bit different in the sister clubs, less stress but as well less money for the girls, but as a client you still know what to expect.
In the other clubs (Bumsalp, Blue Opera, New Blue Up) service quality varies much more. Then I don't go often in these clubs, so maybe I just had bad luck.
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[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2145129]
The reason is, the matron of World seconds this, is that the legal boundaries around prostitution are wider than in Germany. Employers can set expectations for the girls and penalize them if they do not follow through. In Austria even less is permitted than Germany, so the service levels tend to be in this order.
[/QUOTE]This is exactly what I think and what I know. Well explained!
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There's average sessions at Globe as well. Yes, the standard for 140 SFR /30 min is higher in regards to what you get from a technical standpoint. DFK, BBBJ, DATY. Still the session can be very mechanical and standard and non enthusiastic. I am not into standardized robot sex. There's great girls at Globe and other clubs in Switzerland. But there's bad sessions as well, especially in the less expensive clubs. German speaking boards and local clients report on average or bad sessions / girls as well.
It's not about the directives the countries allow the clubs to give to the girls, there are possibilities in Germany as well to set standards. Limited maybe but that is the case in Switzerland as well. Clubs can send girls away without giving any official reason.
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[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2145003]Switzerland is way better than Austria, but I am not sure Germany is any longer. We have to wait out the power struggle, as I reported and theorized with the new law it has given the girls an opportunity to upsell, I can't believe why some mongers thought nothing would change.
[/QUOTE]I am one who thought nothing would change but I admit to be wrong. Friends have reported to me about the drastic change and since I have started to follow those threads here again more closely, I feel I am up to speed about what is going on.
But it probably is difficult to say CH over GER over AUT if many things still depend on what management of individual clubs in certain parts of the countries do with the law (s) and how they handle them internally.
Example of Wellcum in Austria. Girls will not ask 100 for a session and they shiver upon the risk of you reporting them to the reception because of bad service level in the room. That used to be true in Sharks as well. Oase on the other hand used to be more tricky and picking the right girl was sometimes hard. Now this seems to be reversed and I for one am stunned by a dramatic change like that.
And on my sole stay in Globe I had one of my worst FKK nights even though the girls'performances in the room were stellar but it all felt so forced and I had a bad vibe there. It is likely that my experience was tarnished because I visited the club on a slow night in February and because my expectations were super high. But I felt pretty disappointed and when I was there the place was a dump and frankly, dirty, too.
Then there is GT in Vienna which has had a stream of girls heading over from Germany when the girls realised that they would have to register and all that. Also FP has benefitted greatly by that in terms of new girls coming over but it is another story.
Then there are Maxim in Vienna and Babylon clubs in Vienna and Klagenfurt (Salzburg has a new owner and is not anymore a real Babylon) and each club has its own way of dealing with the laws in Austria which are tricky to handle for sure. In both clubs a complaint about the service of the girls in the room can and might result in the girl getting fired immediately. Regardless of the complaint coming from a tourist or local, it will be treated seriously and with the consideration it deserves.
In GT however, that is not likely to happen unless a certain girl gets tons of complaints.
And all that can change within weeks, if new laws come or whatever. So it is all relative and only as far as money goes, Germany is still the best by far if you are not buying the premium package of 100 for 30 minutes.
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[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2145129].... If it is just about money, how do you explain the generally horrible service in the Amsterdam RLD vs Germany? The money is the same.[/QUOTE]The RLD in Amsterdam is a world famous attraction. It is a 100% tourist trap. German FKKs are probably 50% tourist trap. The unknowing visitor will get trapped but those in the know can get value for money.
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[QUOTE=Austin28;2144951]Earlier this month, I had my first FKK experience and it was great. Based on the reviews here, decided to go to start with Sharks and accordingly rented a room in Dramstatd. Initially I was debating on staying in Frankfurt vs. Dramstatd but I think staying in Dramstatd was the right decision. From airport, it is very convenient to get to Dramstatd and back using the airliner bus. From Dramstatd Hbf you can take either Bus are or taxi to / from Sharks. Went to Sharks twice. First on Saturday and second time on Monday.
Saturday visit.
Paid the entry fee of 65 euro. Sharks has nice facilities and food. Stayed for 8 hours and had three sessions.
First with Selina, 30 why Romanian blonde with long hair. Gave a nice GFE experience in a 50 euro /30 min session. Activities included LFK, BJ and sex in multiple positions. I would recommend her if one is ok with her 30 why old look. Second session was with Laura. She is a 20 why old Romanian. Attractive girl but there was upsell in the room. Stuck to 30 minutes / 50 euro session. Sex in multiple positions and lots of boob play was involved. Overall good session. Third one was with a bit older lady. She approached me multiple times and finally I said yes. Again a 30 minutes / 50 euro session. Owo and lots of ball licking was involved. Finally had sex in multiple positions..[/QUOTE]Excellent review, thanks! What is the best way to reach the club from the airport?
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[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2145214]Example of Wellcum in Austria. Girls will not ask 100 for a session and they shiver upon the risk of you reporting them to the reception because of bad service level in the room. That used to be true in Sharks as well. Oase on the other hand used to be more tricky and picking the right girl was sometimes hard. Now this seems to be reversed and I for one am stunned by a dramatic change like that.
And all that can change within weeks, if new laws come or whatever. So it is all relative and only as far as money goes, Germany is still the best by far if you are not buying the premium package of 100 for 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]Gotta agree with the sentiments expressed in your post. Euro 50 does not easily buy as much service as it used to in Germany and that seems to be very much the case in FKK Sharks. But then Germany is probably still the best country in Europe (along with Austria) for this type of pastime! Service in Switzerland can be excellent and the girls optically very good but definitely expensive and the club facilities not so impressive.
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[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2145214]Example of Wellcum in Austria. Girls will not ask 100 for a session and they shiver upon the risk of you reporting them to the reception because of bad service level in the room. That used to be true in Sharks as well. Oase on the other hand used to be more tricky and picking the right girl was sometimes hard. Now this seems to be reversed and I for one am stunned by a dramatic change like that.[/QUOTE]And still Wellcum is known as a club full of Italians and low service level.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2145165] Megan said she doesn't want to return to "everything for 50 : kissing, licking, asking for DTBBBJ, fucking multi positions, guys." [/QUOTE]She happily did all that for me at Sharks. So no difference for me to Globe service. Except it is almost 2,5 x the price.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2145165]Yes, club Swiss Dietikon close to Zurich, Globe small brother, where rate is 89 CHF / 30 mn, not much more than 80 , with same GFE level than Globe for 140/30 mn, just less girls, about 15, but better for me to find only 1 top girl who will make my day.[/QUOTE]Yes, if you know exactly who you want and you arrange upfront it can be a great day like that. Globe is different experience, especially on a busy day when the club is full and pumping.
But even Globe is not what it was 5 years ago, the line up gets a little bit worse every year, there are less top girls and less clients.