Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Member #3200]Bill I have to disagree with the 95/5% good & SOB drivers.

Anytime I have been getting 1 to take me to the bus station from 2nd road or central Pattaya road or going 2 hotel from sukhumvit rd these guys see farang & see it as an opportunity to scam/over charge tourists.

I've been quoted as high as 200bhat for the trip & most of them won't go below 100. I know it isn't a 10 or 20baht trip, I'm willing to go as much as 60 to be fair, but thai men; especially, the older & uneduacted hate farangs witha passion & all they want to do is rip us off.[/QUOTE]

OK, I am going to go a little further with the Baht bus and explain how they operate as taxies and NOT buses.

First, ALL of the Baht buses can be hired as PRIVATE taxies. I always try to get one that does not have anybody in it. Because, the drivers will throw all the riders out of the back of the bus if they get somebody paying them more money.

I don't like that and don't want to be rude to the people already on the bus.

The two places you mentioned you wanted to go, could be had for 100 Baht. Pretty much the LOWEST rate for any Baht bus to act as you TAXI is going to be 100 Baht.

For the most part, you are NOT going to get a bus to act as a TAXI for anything LESS than 100 Baht.

The rate is going to depend on how far the drive is, how long they will have to wait for you and if they are going to be able to get other fairs as a bus on the way back.

But, if you are new here and you don't know the answer to those question then you will be at there mercy.

Next, ALL Thai's like to negotiate. They think if you don't negotiate, then you are STUPID.

So, the drivers are ALL going to ask you for more than the normal rate would be. You need to turn the tables on them and act like you know what you're doing.

Since, I will already know what the rate should be based on the criteria I mentioned above and more than likely a tourist will not; I will tell you how I talk to them.

I first tell them where I want to go, second I hope they understand English and know where I am going, third assuming If I feel confident they know where they are going I will tell them how much I will pay.

Since, I already know what the rate should be; I will stand PAT with my offer and not budge. About 50% of the time, the driver will ask for more.

I will then repeat the offer and if says anything but YES. I will stop the negotiating and ask them once or twice, YES or NO. If they say no, I just find another driver; it is not like the buses don't come by ever 5 seconds or so, it is easy to find another driver.

Last night was a good example of this; I was taking two girls home from Walking Street back to my condo in Jomtien. When I take the girls back to my condo, I always get a taxi. It makes them feel like they are with a rich man and being treated special.

Remember, how much fun you are going to have is directly related to the girl's happiness. The rate for this is 100 Baht. To my surprise the first guy I asked wanted 150 Baht and refused to budge. So after 10 seconds I stopped and found another guy for 100 Baht ten seconds later.

A very good aspect of Thai society is that once negotiations are finished and the deal has been agreed too. The Thai will ALWAYS up hold there end of the bargain.

Hope that helps a little more.

What you said about Thai men hating foreigners is SO NOT true. For those of you reading this DO NOT believe that. As with everywhere, this writer must have had some conflict with a Thai man and is now generalizing.

Also, as I mentioned above, he made one of the cardinal mistakes when attempting to deal with the drivers. He stated he would offer 60 Baht. Again, I will repeat this, for the most part, the LOWEST rate a bus will act as a taxi is 100 Baht.

[QUOTE=Member #3200].........
Anytime I have been getting 1 to take me to the bus station from 2nd road or central Pattaya road or going 2 hotel from sukhumvit rd these guys see farang & see it as an opportunity to scam/over charge tourists.

I've been quoted as high as 200bhat for the trip & most of them won't go below 100. I know it isn't a 10 or 20baht trip, I'm willing to go as much as 60 to be fair, but thai men; especially, the older & uneduacted hate farangs witha passion & all they want to do is rip us off.[/QUOTE]

have been quoted similar to the 100B from 2nd road to bus station yes as bill writes this is a taxi instead of a bus service though. Only once did I get a lower price of (60 or 80) on this route.

what I found OUTRAGEOUS is getting off the bus from BKK airport - (you know the stop right at Suk Rd and Central) the motorcyle taxis and baht busses are there on que! They offer a ride to your hotel 100B per PERSON even e same we were staying on the same soi Diana. This has happened at least 3 or 4 times now, I simply walk across the road to the bus stop now
10B to 2nd or beach rd!

[QUOTE=MilesToGo]...what I found OUTRAGEOUS is getting off the bus from BKK airport...[/QUOTE]On Bell bus, better get off at North Pattaya, walk around the corner to the bus stop and take the Bahtbus for 20 Baht.

From Pattaya to the bus station you can take a Bahtbus to the roundabout, walk a few meters into Pattaya Nua Rd. and take another bahtbus from there for another 10 Baht.The only problem is that they are not very frequent so it can take some time to get one. If without luggage, it is only a 20 mins walk. I often prefer this to having to deal with the taxi mafia. If a regular Bahtbus comes along, I jump on.
It‘s not about the money for me it's about the attitude. Don't forget, in Bangkok a taxi on that distance would cost 35 Baht (less than 2 km).

[QUOTE=Sponsor74]How are the current prices for official versions viagra and cialis you are paying there in Pattaya now`?[/QUOTE]I haven't been there since last Summer. Then it was 2,000 Baht for a box of 4, not cheap.

I am getting confused.Doesn't the Bell bus from Suvabhumi Airport and Bangkok stop at only the North Pattaya bus terminal?
Anyway more importantly from the North Pattaya bus terminal to Walking Street by baht bus is it 10b a person or 20b?
Are you saying that it is actually 20b but if you wanted to save 10b you walk
towards Pattaya city and flag down a passing baht bus just like what I do going outside the Haadyai bus station?

[QUOTE=Member #3173]I am getting confused.Doesn't the Bell bus from Suvabhumi Airport and Bangkok stop at only the North Pattaya bus terminal?
Anyway more importantly from the North Pattaya bus terminal to Walking Street by baht bus is it 10b a person or 20b?
Are you saying that it is actually 20b but if you wanted to save 10b you walk
towards Pattaya city and flag down a passing baht bus just like what I do going outside the Haadyai bus station?[/QUOTE]
There are 2 different things I said.
1. the bell bus (As far as I know) has its final stop at Jomtien. It stops at North pattaya and South Pattaya on the way. If you get off at North Pattaya you can walk to the north Pattaya bus station. The Bahtbus from there is 20 baht.

2. If I come from Pattaya and want to go to the bus station, I will not pay 100 Baht for a bahtbus acting like a taxi, but take a bahtbus to the roundabout and then walk towards the bus station until I can flag down another baht bus for 10 baht. They are bot verty frequent though, so I might end up having to walk the whone way (15-20 mins).

[QUOTE=Member #3173]I am getting confused.Doesn't the Bell bus from Suvabhumi Airport and Bangkok stop at only the North Pattaya bus terminal?
Anyway more importantly from the North Pattaya bus terminal to Walking Street by baht bus is it 10b a person or 20b?
Are you saying that it is actually 20b but if you wanted to save 10b you walk
towards Pattaya city and flag down a passing baht bus just like what I do going outside the Haadyai bus station?[/QUOTE]

All he is trying to say is that after you arrive at the bus terminal in North Pattaya. You have two options.

The first, is to get in one of the Baht buses waiting at the terminal to take you into Pattaya and Jomtien. I don't remember what it cost, but 20 Baht sounds correct.

The second option is to walk right past them and cross the street. There you can wait for a normal Baht bus.

The advantages to this and the reason I do it are the following. You don't have to sit and wait for the bus to fill up at the terminal, which can take fifteen minutes or more.

This bus only cost 10 Baht and about 90% of them go towards the beach exactly the same route as the buses you would catch from the bus station. But, 10% will turn on the circle and go towards North Pattaya, in which case you would have to get off the bus and walk across the street and catch one going towards the beach. You won't have to wait 30 seconds there, they come around that corner constantly.

He is correct, if you have a lot of luggage just wait at the bus terminal. But, if you only have one bag it is quicker just to by pass the buses at the terminal and walk across the street.

There are quite a bit more buses that run that route than he gave the impression there was. The road your on now is called "North Pattaya Road" and most of the busses that run that route will do a u-turn right in front of the bus station and turn back towards the beach. Also you will get a few coming off the highway.

So, if you don't have too many bags, this would be a little quicker. If you're trying to save 10 Baht, don't come here in the first place. We have too many people here already that don't have any money.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]On Bell bus[/QUOTE]

They are called BAHT buses and not Bell buses.

[QUOTE=Bill Miami]They are called BAHT buses and not Bell buses.[/QUOTE]

BAHT buses run around the Pattaya area

The BELL bus is a bus that runs between the airport and Pattaya terminating at Jomtien. Bell is the name of the transport company.

[QUOTE=mybutterfly]I haven't been there since last Summer. Then it was 2,000 Baht for a box of 4, not cheap.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info. Last December in Bangkok I paid for Viagra 4X100 mg THB 1800 and for Cialis 4X20mg THB 1900. I hope this helps to compare and it seems better prices in Bangkok

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]On Bell bus, better get off at North Pattaya, walk around the corner to the bus stop and take the Bahtbus for 20 Baht.

From Pattaya to the bus station you can take a Bahtbus to the roundabout, walk a few meters into Pattaya Nua Rd. and take another bahtbus from there for another 10 Baht.The only problem is that they are not very frequent so it can take some time to get one. If without luggage, it is only a 20 mins walk. I often prefer this to having to deal with the taxi mafia. If a regular Bahtbus comes along, I jump on.
It‘s not about the money for me it's about the attitude. Don't forget, in Bangkok a taxi on that distance would cost 35 Baht (less than 2 km).[/QUOTE]


Thanks Tiger,

At least you and I have the same thoughts on this matter. Yes, we do want to save a few bahts along the way but more importantly, as my post also suggested, we simply don't like the bus/taxi mafia mentality in Pattaya. I already have enough mafia types back home to deal with and don't need them while on vacation.

Shark

kamagra is about 200B per pill (maybe even less) I get mine in Cambodia - try virtually any pharmacy on soi Buakhao or 13/2 (might be 13/1) about 1/2 way between beach and 2nd road

GENERIC IS CHEAPER AND JUST AS EFFECTIVE!!

(and the BELL bus only runs between North road bus terminal and the airport - both directions - the place to get ON the bus is at the airport bus terminal - the place to get off going to the airport is AT the departure terminal)

There is a different bus that runs from Jomtien to/from the airport. It works out to be faster IF you are actually going to Jomtien, toherwise, you need to get off on Suk and cross the road - either Klang (central) or Dtai (south) road baht buses will get to down to 2nd or points in between

[QUOTE=Dinghy]kamagra is about 200B per pill (maybe even less) [/QUOTE]
Much less. You should be able to buy Kamagra in packs of 4 tablets for 300 baht, which works out to only 75 baht per tablet, and now Kamagra Oral Jelly, which works very quickly and effectively, for just 80 baht per packet.

It makes old guys young.

[QUOTE=Daddy07]It makes old guys young.[/QUOTE]

if it makes old guys young, what does it make with young guys?
I hope it won't turn me into a toddler with a 2 inch dick! LOL

Joking aside, how long does the oral Jelly last? and how damaging can the side effects be?

[QUOTE=Daddy07]Much less. You should be able to buy Kamagra in packs of 4 tablets for 300 baht, which works out to only 75 baht per tablet, and now Kamagra Oral Jelly, which works very quickly and effectively, for just 80 baht per packet.

It makes old guys young.[/QUOTE]

i pay 180 baht for 4x100mg Karmagra in Pattaya.