Havana

The beaches, Playas del Este, are not good for picking up girls. There is heavy police presence on all of them. I find it to be a world of it's own out there. I leave Havana, where every girl looks like at me like she wants to have sex with me, drive out on the Via Blanca, where every female hitchhiker wants to marry me, and arrive at Santa Maria or Guanabo, where - all of the sudden - I become invincible.

But on the parking lot or the street next to the beaches - around 4-5 pm - there will be a shitload of girls heading home and looking for rides from tourists.

Yes, things have changed. Your mongering will be very different, and you need to know the way to work things, which I am sure you know after that many visits.

Better idea to find girtls in Havana and invite them with you to the beach. If you have a car they will feel like princesses for a day if you take them with you. There is a small section of Guanabo, where there is little police presence, and this is a good spot to go with them.

Casa de la Musica is not my taste. Very professional. Getting harder and harder to spot any girls in there who are not pros. This goes for both CDLM's, Miramar and Galliano. Off course, always good looking girls in there, but they will generally ask for 80-100 CUC and can not be bargained down under 50-70 cuc. If you like pros and have no problem spending 80 on pro sex that is rarely GFE, you will find that CDLM is still a happening place.

I met a beaturiful creole type girl, 19 years old, at CDLM Miramar about a month ago. She started at 90 cuc and I got her down to 50 cuc. When we got home she starting kissing me with her lips shut. I threw her out and gave her 10 for the taxi.

Have a great trip. Havana is really the greatest when you don't go expecting to take models home every day. It is getting much harder and you need to work to have succes.

[QUOTE=Rubmeister100]Heading down to Havana this weekend for some mojitos, a little R&R and some cuban hospitality. Enjoyed a half dozen trips over the past eight years but nothing in the past two.

This will be the first summer trip and was wondering if that beach just east of Havana (I forget the name) might be a good place to meet some local girls on the weekend since it is summer.

I understand that things are different than they were a few years ago when Johnny's, Commodoro and the other clubs were like shooting fish in a barrel but with a bit of game we hope to find some fun. Of course we'll do the Casa de la Musica but what about that fashion house fashion show or other places?

Any up to date, real advice would be appreciated. I'll report back upon my return.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Travelling Gring]The beaches, Playas del Este, are not good for picking up girls. There is heavy police presence on all of them. I find it to be a world of it's own out there. I leave Havana, where every girl looks like at me like she wants to have sex with me, drive out on the Via Blanca, where every female hitchhiker wants to marry me, and arrive at Santa Maria or Guanabo, where - all of the sudden - I become invincible.

But on the parking lot or the street next to the beaches - around 4-5 pm - there will be a shitload of girls heading home and looking for rides from tourists.

Yes, things have changed. Your mongering will be very different, and you need to know the way to work things, which I am sure you know after that many visits.

Better idea to find girtls in Havana and invite them with you to the beach. If you have a car they will feel like princesses for a day if you take them with you. There is a small section of Guanabo, where there is little police presence, and this is a good spot to go with them.

Casa de la Musica is not my taste. Very professional. Getting harder and harder to spot any girls in there who are not pros. This goes for both CDLM's, Miramar and Galliano. Off course, always good looking girls in there, but they will generally ask for 80-100 CUC and can not be bargained down under 50-70 cuc. If you like pros and have no problem spending 80 on pro sex that is rarely GFE, you will find that CDLM is still a happening place.

I met a beaturiful creole type girl, 19 years old, at CDLM Miramar about a month ago. She started at 90 cuc and I got her down to 50 cuc. When we got home she starting kissing me with her lips shut. I threw her out and gave her 10 for the taxi.

Have a great trip. Havana is really the greatest when you don't go expecting to take models home every day. It is getting much harder and you need to work to have succes.[/QUOTE]


The advice Travelling is giving you is 100% right on. When you get to the beach most o fthe girls are with somebody else:Tourist, Boyfriend, husband or chulo. So most likely you will not find alot that are available, unless you have good game and can snatch one that has gone with her family to the beach.

Saw this on the web. Thought you guys would enjoy it. Never been to Santiago de Cuba. I may have to go now. Enjoy:

Well Havana girls are hip
I really dig those styles they wear
And Cienfuegos girls with the way they talk
They knock me out when Im down there
A Camaguey jinitera will really make you feel alright
And the Holguin girls with the way they kiss
They keep their chulos warm at night

I've been all around this great big world
And I seen all kinds of girls
Yeah, but I couldnt wait to get back to the east
Back to the hottest girls in the world

I wish they all could be Santiago
I wish they all could be Santiago
I wish they all could be Santiago girls

[QUOTE=Travelling Gring]The beaches, Playas del Este, are not good for picking up girls. There is heavy police presence on all of them. I find it to be a world of it's own out there. I leave Havana, where every girl looks like at me like she wants to have sex with me, drive out on the Via Blanca, where every female hitchhiker wants to marry me, and arrive at Santa Maria or Guanabo, where - all of the sudden -
I become invincible. [/QUOTE]HeyTravelling Gring,

Did you mean INVISIBLE?

I am trying to make sure I understand your post.

Are you saying that, in terms of ease of picking up cubanas

Santa Maria or Guanabo is better than the Via Blanca the Via Blanca is better than Havana?

Yes, invisible. Change those two words and I am sure my post will be very clear.

Via Blanca is - like any other road - good for picking up girls. (though you might disagree, I have seen you are not fond of cars as a method) Havana is always good. The Playas Del Este are probably the worst in all of Cuba to find girls. This is due to the INVISIBILITY and obviously not the invincibility...

[QUOTE=Water Boy]HeyTravelling Gring,

Did you mean INVISIBLE?

I am trying to make sure I understand your post.

Are you saying that, in terms of ease of picking up cubanas

Santa Maria or Guanabo is better than the Via Blanca the Via Blanca is better than Havana?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Travelling Gring]. . . Casa de la Musica is not my taste. Very professional. Getting harder and harder . . . . If you like pros and have no problem spending 80 on pro sex that is rarely GFE, you will find that CDLM is still a happening place.

I met a beaturiful creole type girl, 19 years old, at CDLM Miramar about a month ago . . . . . I threw her out and gave her 10 for the taxi . . .

Have a great trip. Havana is really the greatest when you don't go expecting to take models home every day. It is getting much harder and you need to work to have succes.[/QUOTE]

Correct both Casa de La Musicas are shit (specially the one in Miramar). Hard Core, they will certainly try to fool you.

Yes, Havana is getting much harder and you need to work hard to have succes.

Sorry I didn't respond to your request earlier, but I don't get on the site as often as I would like. I guess I don't have PM capability on this site. Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to give out my Havana info. Personally, I'm a Habana Vieja guy so I have limited knowledge in Vedado. If you're in Cuba when I'm there, I'd love to have a beer and could possibly share some info at that time. I'll be there in October. I really do appreciate your posts here.

Warning this is a report of a HAV firsttimer, so don't expect spectacular in depth information, it's meant to broaden the pattern and to affirm statements already made on the board; most important I agree:

Cuba is not a prime monger destination!

Well, this was quite clear when I went and the purpose of the trip was also culture, people and language, so I wasn't disappointed at all. For better understanding (I apreciate this in other reports as well) some background information: I'm a single European male 48 year old male with some Spanish skills, university degree, well travelled. I'm in shape, dress proportionately and follow the safety rules. This was a 2 week trip.

Casa:

Set up via email using sites mentioned on the board, some didn't bother to respond, always expect delays in communication. First night had to stay in another casa (unexpected? ) but finally got a nice legal apartment with private entrance. The owner was quite cool, didn't pay in advance, chicawise we agreed that I write down the carnet-information, just in case something goes wrong. Everything went smoothly, no only 1 chica rule, chicas stayed daytime, TLN, only 1 incident. Once (daytime) the dueno asked for carnet but obviously info wasn't written in the book. My impression was that the dueno didn't stay up all night if I had a chica TLN.

Chicas:

As already stated: Cuba isn't Thailand or Brasil, so no point and click. But you should always prepared for a surprise (so have a plan in advance).

Example: waiting for an appointment at cine Jara (next to Copelia) there was a chica obviously waiting as well. A little punishment in mind (for my date coming late) I started talking and we agreed to leave together if our dates don't show. This was the last time she came late.

Because of this experience I figured this might be a good pickup spot and started "waiting" without a date. Another day (at Jara) I was approached by 1 chica in this cute schoolgirl uniform asking for 1 CUC to go to Copelia with her 2 amigas. Being a gentlemen I invited them to have an icecream together – to bad they were only 17, but I enjoyed the afternoon anyway.

One night at Turquino (Hotel Havanna Libre 2nd floor) I met a couple and after some talking and dancing she started offering herself – too bad she wasn't attractive enough. In this and other clubs it seemed to be common to introduce touristas to the audience. Nice service and lot's of contacts afterwards.

In hindsight I wouldn't say Cubans are shy and reluctant to make contact, people notoriously asked for time and light (fosfero). People means everybody – male, female, pro non-pro, old young – and it wasn't always to sell cigars or other "things". Just keep the situation in mind and act accordingly. I mean, what's up if you're sitting in a bar and the chica next table asks you for a light when there is one lying on their table?

Also expect to be invited for some kind of fiesta, I. E. Birthday party. I got 4 invitations, but only went once with a chica I already knew. Call me a coward, but I wasn't up to go at night to a place in the outskirts of HAV with somebody I don't know at least a little.

I stayed with 5 chicas, all gfe (3 semi-pro, TLN 25-35 CUC) and 2 non-pro (internet). I tried to avoid the pros, but did some bargaining with them, I. E. 35 in Turquino; starting price 100.

One chica (semi-pro from Granma, not shaved) mentioned the famous "Up to you" – en espanol, this was the only one that had to be walked by a familiar to my casa.

Pick up places:

Well I stayed in Vedado, so most experience was there. So calle 23 was good, although I didn't like the Malecon esp. Next to 23 and the La Rampa area (lower part). My best results were between Copelia and Ave. Presidentes. In front of Copelia is La Rampita (small outdoor bar), next to cine Rivera (esq 23 & Ave. Presidentes) is an airconditioned bar, both worth to have a look at once in a while. Ave. Presidentes has the rockeros at night, but I guess I'm too old for these, but during day lot's of nurses (between 23 and the castle). Well no success with these, maybe because always too much colleagues present, maybe I should have asked my dueno to borrow me his dog for a walk.

Clubs: Turquino, Havanna Club, Sala Roja, sufficiently covered in the board, just keep in mind the 10-20 CUC cover, once went to a club far out, better atmosphere but was with a chica.

Policia:

Never had a problem, the chicas (esp. Internet) didn't seem to be afraid of them. We walked together day and night (Vieja, Centro, Vedado) and they never stopped us. Once with a semi-pro we took a taxi on her demand, but I don't know if she was anxious or just lazy. The only one, that seemed worried was the one from Granma. So, no hassle – and I'm glad for that; although there was a significant age gap and colour (sometimes). Well that's just my experience (maybe confirming the non-, semi-pro status) but I'm sure that all written in the board is true and the availability of chicas would be much better without police.

On the other hand I observed that carnets (of chicas without company) were checked at La Rampita and Playa del Este. At PDE was heavy police presence, but I saw other couples with parttime GF.

Final thought:

I enjoyed Cuba, but as already said, I didn't came for mongering only.

Expect the unexpected, have a plan ahead because sometimes you have to make a fast move. But if you have them on the hook and into conversation play it slow, decide wisely and don't be afraid to go home alone (I did 3 times). When they started to get pushy, I considered them jinetera and lost interest, but for those interested, this was when prices dropped to < 40.

My thanks to Jackson and all of you guys contributing,

Suerte Smily

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Yes, I too go to Havana for the culture, but stay for the cocksucking.

When you say Turquino on the second floor, do you mean the bar in the Habana Libre on the second floor where chicas hang out, or the disco at the top of the Habana Libre, where the really expensive chicas hang out ?

[QUOTE=Smily59]Warning this is a report of a HAV firsttimer, so don't expect spectacular in depth information, it's meant to broaden the pattern and to affirm statements already made on the board; most important I agree:

Cuba is not a prime monger destination![/QUOTE]Great report, Smiley59! You wrote a very comprehensive report on the Havana mongering scene. Very detailed - I am impressed !

For a first-timer, it seems like you hit the right mongering spots! Vedado is a good area for cruising.

You did well with the owner of your Casa PArticular. That was a great compromise you struck to let you bring in girls

Questions:

1.) What was the general description of the women you bedded? Age? Race? Build?

2.) Got any fotos to post?

3.) Would you go back ?

I've been lurking on the Cuba boards for a while. Going to make my first trip soon. It seems to me--and correct me if I'm wrong--that even the most "expensive" Cuban jinteras are cheap by Latin American standards. Tell me where on our side of the globe you can get TLN for the equivalent of $30. Plus Cubans are not almost all dark (like the DR), so there's variety.

Besides the obvious drawbacks (US customs, Cuban police), it seems to me that Cuba should be high on the list. A lot of people swear by places like Argentina or Costa Rica, but you couldn't get a TLN those places for less than $100.

Somebody please tell me what I'm missing...

In my personal and highly biased opinion, nothing compares to Cuba.

More variety, cleaner, pussy and everything else.

More daring. And yes cheaper. Not inconceivable to have an all nighter for 20. Not going to be easy, but yes can be found.

Usually, the farther east you go, out of havana and into the smaller towns, you will have nice ones, cheap and easy.

So many other reasons, having to do with the country. Which directly affects the quality. Enhances it.

Drawback: many and all are out for money, a ticket of the country. So I would not believe anything they say.

First off, you won't find a TLN for $30, most hot girls (if you go to night clubs) will ask more like 40-60 up to 100 CUC in some cases. Once you met the girl in the club she won't come out with you (most regularly scheduled clubs will have heavy police presence outside), unless it's one of those "underground" parties that people get SMS about, they rotate locations. But those parties had most of the same working girls you would see at other places. So you would either get in your car and tell her to meet around the corner, or as happened once in our case they followed our taxi on motorbikes and then jumped in our taxi. Main question is: how good is your Spanish? Can you explain this or understand what she's trying to tell you when regaton or electronic music is blasting? Once the working girl is at your place, she starts going through your stuff in the bathroom, spraying your cologne, looking for candy or food. It's just something you have to be prepared to deal with among other things. Normal regular girls won't do that, that's how you can spot a jinitera, but to me they all seemed available and about money. Maybe there are good girls, but those are not the pretty ones, if you want the hot model looking girl, or a girl who likes to dress nice it's guaranteed she knows how to supplement her income.

Alternatively you could talk to pretty much any girl on the street, I would say that majority of girls are a fair game and would not mind making a quick buck away from their girlfriends' eyes, but then again on some nights when police presence is heavy, she will be scared to walk with you, they feel safer in the car with you. How good is your Spanish if you get stopped to convince the police that she is your girlfriend? If she is a jinetera forget about walking on the street with her. Finally, everyone is about money money and money, nothing else.. honestly I got a little sick of that at the end. One more thing: you will have to worry about renting an illegal casa for a few hours, or find one that will not register girls because many working girls will not want to register. You'll have to be prepared to deal with some shady characters, most will try to rip you off one way or another.. Again, how good is your Spanish?

With regards to the part of your question about other countries, lets say compare it to Colombia. In Colombia you can meet a working girl and she'll party with you and have a good time and dance with you all night and you don't have to worry about a thing, so in the end you go to Cuba for a cultural experience, a bit of hassle here and there, but not to save money.

[QUOTE=Smokers Rule]I've been lurking on the Cuba boards for a while. Going to make my first trip soon. It seems to me--and correct me if I'm wrong--that even the most "expensive" Cuban jinteras are cheap by Latin American standards. Tell me where on our side of the globe you can get TLN for the equivalent of $30. Plus Cubans are not almost all dark (like the DR), so there's variety.

Besides the obvious drawbacks (US customs, Cuban police), it seems to me that Cuba should be high on the list. A lot of people swear by places like Argentina or Costa Rica, but you couldn't get a TLN those places for less than $100.

Somebody please tell me what I'm missing...[/QUOTE]

1) My Spanish is great, thanks :)
2) The upper bound on asking prices for the hottest chicks is 100 CUC. That's telling, IMO.
3) I have a casa lined up with no problems with chicas.
4) My Colombia experience has been limited to Bogota,which was not so great. I believe you that other areas of Colombia may be better.

I understand about everyone being about money. I can imagine that would get old. Seems to me like Cuba is not the place for Joe Monger from New Jersey who doesn't know a lick of Spanish and does at much drinking as he does mongering when he's on vaca.

But then again, I'm not Joe Monger. :) I'll let you know how it goes.


[QUOTE=Sean EZ]First off, you won't find a TLN for $30, most hot girls (if you go to night clubs) will ask more like 40-60 up to 100 CUC in some cases. Once you met the girl in the club she won't come out with you (most regularly scheduled clubs will have heavy police presence outside), unless it's one of those "underground" parties that people get SMS about, they rotate locations. But those parties had most of the same working girls you would see at other places. So you would either get in your car and tell her to meet around the corner, or as happened once in our case they followed our taxi on motorbikes and then jumped in our taxi. Main question is: how good is your Spanish? Can you explain this or understand what she's trying to tell you when regaton or electronic music is blasting? Once the working girl is at your place, she starts going through your stuff in the bathroom, spraying your cologne, looking for candy or food. It's just something you have to be prepared to deal with among other things. Normal regular girls won't do that, that's how you can spot a jinitera, but to me they all seemed available and about money. Maybe there are good girls, but those are not the pretty ones, if you want the hot model looking girl, or a girl who likes to dress nice it's guaranteed she knows how to supplement her income.

Alternatively you could talk to pretty much any girl on the street, I would say that majority of girls are a fair game and would not mind making a quick buck away from their girlfriends' eyes, but then again on some nights when police presence is heavy, she will be scared to walk with you, they feel safer in the car with you. How good is your Spanish if you get stopped to convince the police that she is your girlfriend? If she is a jinetera forget about walking on the street with her. Finally, everyone is about money money and money, nothing else.. honestly I got a little sick of that at the end. One more thing: you will have to worry about renting an illegal casa for a few hours, or find one that will not register girls because many working girls will not want to register. You'll have to be prepared to deal with some shady characters, most will try to rip you off one way or another.. Again, how good is your Spanish?

With regards to the part of your question about other countries, lets say compare it to Colombia. In Colombia you can meet a working girl and she'll party with you and have a good time and dance with you all night and you don't have to worry about a thing, so in the end you go to Cuba for a cultural experience, a bit of hassle here and there, but not to save money.[/QUOTE]

Really a nice contribution but on ground of your two week experience (and all other friends here, I have some questions...

The price is, I suppose, for all nigters?
How do they behave with BBBJ (CIM or COF) and Anal?

Thanks

IT


[QUOTE=Smily59]Warning this is a report of a HAV firsttimer, so don't expect spectacular in depth information, it's meant to broaden the pattern and to affirm statements already made on the board; most important I agree:

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My thanks to Jackson and all of you guys contributing,

Suerte Smily

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