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[QUOTE=DCups;1811316]So now you are the Xpert on humor, too, X? Stick your schwantztooka up your ass and lighten up! Hahahahahahahahahah QUOTE=X Man Do you really need six "ha"s for your own joke? A joke about dick, thank you very much.
QUOTE].[/QUOTE]Oh I see, you can't put your dick in your ass, X, because your head is already in it!
[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1811717]Color does not matter, the only color that matters is green. These poor people look at westerners as a come up that's it. If you come to Angeles city with no money and are flat broke. Let see how far your white skin will get you. If a Filipino girl had to choose between a broke and poor white man or a broke a poor Filipino man, they would choose there own people any day. So don't think because your rich in a 3rd World Country people actually like you. They want what's in your wallet.
Try going getting a rich upper class Filipino girl in Manila, that is not desperate or poor. They would not even look your way.[/QUOTE]100% agree,
As they say, no money no honey.
We are only as handsome as the amount of money we have in our pockets.
Take away the money and see how handsome we are.
Nothing wrong with an old guy wanting some young flesh and paying for the pleasure.
But its suprising how many guys I speak to both in the phills and thailand who actually believe they are handsome to these girls even if they had no money.
They will assure me yes but mine is different, she truly loves me.
My answer is always, try not paying her for a day and see if she still loves you, up to now none have had the balls to try LOL.
[QUOTE=CrownRoyal;1811715]I saw a few complaints about take-out prices, but if you take the movement of the US Dollar into consideration, the Atlantis price has actually come down (in relation to the dollar at least). A good part of this is a reaction to the US Dollar but I'm sure part could be just taking advantage of hobbyists. I've read this is the fast rise for the US Dollar in 40 years.
Someone else commented about going to Lain or South America, but you have a similar situation there with all currencies that I am aware of.
I had some serious health issues that are beginning to subside and I'm hoping to land in AC in a few months.[/QUOTE]I think you will find that most guys are not so worried about the higher prices quoted in angeles bars but they just can not find the type of girls willing to barfine that can command such prices.
A punter spending 3000 p-4000 p wants a slim very attractive girl with a good attitude.
When I visit many of the bars in angeles I think who ever hired these girls must have been either desperate or blind.
Thats not to say young slim girls are not dancing in some bars its just that these type of girls are few and extremely choosy who they will barfine with if at all.
Most guys are willing to pay good money for what they want, but I for one laugh at some of the fat, older, mummies who think they are worth any where near 3000-4000 p.
[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1811717]Color does not matter, the only color that matters is green. These poor people look at westerners as a come up that's it. If you come to Angeles city with no money and are flat broke. Let see how far your white skin will get you. If a Filipino girl had to choose between a broke and poor white man or a broke a poor Filipino man, they would choose there own people any day. So don't think because your rich in a 3rd World Country people actually like you. They want what's in your wallet.
Try going getting a rich upper class Filipino girl in Manila, that is not desperate or poor. They would not even look your way.[/QUOTE]What he does not realize is that they perceive the Whites to have more money as is generally the case in their societies of lighter skinned people being better off financially and not having to participate in manual labor. Dark means you work outside in the fields where the pay is peanuts, whereas light means you have some gravy job in the shade or air-conditioning where the pay is more. You have to look deeper than the surface. There is a reason for everything. I like women with big asses but that does not mean I will like every woman with a big ass, or even most women with big asses. Also does not mean that I will never like a woman with a small ass. So if you think someone is going to like you solely because you showed up White then you are sadly mistaken.
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Try going getting a rich upper class Filipino girl in Manila, that is not desperate or poor. They would not even look your way.[/QUOTE]Actually, this is pretty much nonsense. Well educated Filipinas from the richer families don't troll bars, rarely advertise on available [URL]girls.com[/URL] and have in general, many of the same interests--both intellectual and social--as their Western counterparts. And while it's true they're not likely to express more than disdain for the average shorts, sandals and tee shirt clad low end tourist it's untrue that they're generally unavailable to courtship by westerners. The problem is that most of the guys coming here to bar hop and rent women for the night never get a chance to interact with such ladies and so are prone to make generalizations that's are unfounded.
Several of us who have lived and worked here, and who have had the chance to work and socialize with Educated, more financially secure Filipinos have been welcomed into the homes and the lives of the latter and have welcomed the opportunity.
GE.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1811936]Several of us who have lived and worked here, and who have had the chance to work and socialize with Educated, more financially secure Filipinos have been welcomed into the homes and the lives of the latter and have welcomed the opportunity.[/QUOTE]And a great opportunity it is. I'm in Cebu right now. My girl here rents out the rooms in her house to college students. Her cousin's husband owns a hotel here. Last night was his birthday. There was a free lechon buffet and all you can drink from the hotel bar. Even had 2 birthday cakes. Had Happy Birthday sung to him twice two hours apart. Me and my girl left there drunk as skunks and spent zero pisos. It was a damn site far from guys saying they go out with chicks who invite their whole family and make the guy pay for everything. And dude's wife was drop dead gorgeous and classy. Nothing that you would find in a bar in Angeles or Manila that is for sure. My cheap ass would surely put down 4000 pisos if I saw her in a bar.
[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1811508]Returning to AC is a little like returning to the scene of a traumatic event not sure I'm emotionally ready to return to the land of rejection.
[/QUOTE]I don't know what to think. Previously you wrote this about AC.
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I was there for three months and had some dismal absolutely dismal experiences of rejection from many of these girls, picking up gogo bar girls is a little like trying to meet regular girls at a regular disco. That is you want to try to look your best smell your best and put on your best charm offensive and be as nice and polite and funny as you can be.
Towards the end of my trip I seemed to have some pretty good success at almost all of the bars but I think that is because I was there for so long, three months, that I became somewhat of a recognized accepted regular figure and they came to accept me better.[/QUOTE]You posted many other comments that expressed your displeasure with the place. Might have all the raids occurring during your stay made the place more difficult? Appears you had a nice time in 2013; you even wrote an extensive FR, [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1972-Angeles-City&p=1402851#post1402851[/url].
[QUOTE]angels city is without a doubt the meca of mongering. it surpasses any place in latin america. the women can be truly beautiful and in my opinion when it comes to beauty can hold their own against the best in latin america and thailand. they can be sweet as candy cuddle up to you all night long and then let you fuck their brains out the next morning. however, success is not guaranteed i had many as i said above about 1/3 of the girls i approached turned me down and few were quit cold and rude to me. [/QUOTE]You wrote a rave review about Manila.
[QUOTE]Been here for nearly a week and have been having a great time. No ministration with these girls have not been told no once have gone into LA Caf G point Caf Havana EDSA and been able to approach what I think is the hottest girl in the place and within five to ten minutes I'm walking or catching a cab back to my hotel room with her, its just like picking up chicas in Latin America. Last nights EDSA girl does not seem to want to leave says its her day off today and for some reason she seems to think she is going to spend the day and night with me again.[/QUOTE]If your ticket can't be refunded or changed to another country perhaps you'll enjoy yourself more in Manila than AC.
[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1811717]Color does not matter, the only color that matters is green. These poor people look at westerners as a come up that's it. If you come to Angeles city with no money and are flat broke. Let see how far your white skin will get you. If a Filipino girl had to choose between a broke and poor white man or a broke a poor Filipino man, they would choose there own people any day. So don't think because your rich in a 3rd World Country people actually like you. They want what's in your wallet.
Try going getting a rich upper class Filipino girl in Manila, that is not desperate or poor. They would not even look your way.[/QUOTE]As GE says, wrong wrong wrong. I lived there for 6 years running a large multi national company and lived in a house within a subdivision that's known to be a wealthy enclave.
I had a few lunches with the mayor of makati and his family, (now the nations biggest crook) and this led me to invites a few cocktail parties and the like that were most certainly for the elite of Manila society. The rich but not the famous, no celebrities type folk of whom Manila is awash. From there I was able to date (when I chose to) many ladies with serious backgrounds, great educations usually in US schools, almost all owning a Masters, ladies who were running or close to running their families business. The girls themselves were a mixed bag of emotionally stable, emotionally wrecked, some playful, some Conservative (they all went to church once or twice on a Sunday) but most certainly these were the creme. So please don't speak for everyone in one these " know it all " sweeping generalisations because by telling everyone how much you know, you've just proved to me that you don't. How long have you lived in Philippines know, and do you know your Dasmarinas from your Forbes, your Urdaneta from your San Lorenzo and your Alabang from your Ayala Alabang?.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1812012]As GE says, wrong wrong wrong. I lived there for 6 years running a large multi national company and lived in a house within a subdivision that's known to be a wealthy enclave.
I had a few lunches with the mayor of makati and his family, (now the nations biggest crook) and this led me to invites a few cocktail parties and the like that were most certainly for the elite of Manila society. The rich but not the famous, no celebrities type folk of whom Manila is awash. From there I was able to date (when I chose to) many ladies with serious backgrounds, great educations usually in US schools, almost all owning a Masters, ladies who were running or close to running their families business. The girls themselves were a mixed bag of emotionally stable, emotionally wrecked, some playful, some Conservative (they all went to church once or twice on a Sunday) but most certainly these were the creme. So please don't speak for everyone in one these " know it all " sweeping generalisations because by telling everyone how much you know, you've just proved to me that you don't. How long have you lived in Philippines know, and do you know your Dasmarinas from your Forbes, your Urdaneta from your San Lorenzo and your Alabang from your Ayala Alabang?.[/QUOTE]With all due respect FF, you might well have been able to date middle class pinays at will.
I too have done exactly that when I was working and living in manila and date an accountant with her own offices here in thailand who is from a very wealthy family.
But what you forget to mention is that middle class pinays / thais will expect their western date to be of similar age, attractive,well dressed, hold down a very good position with a very good salary, live in a good neighbourhood, drive a nice car and be able to wine and dine said lady in the better more expensive establishments.
What middle class, educated pinays will 100% not allow is a very large age gap, maybe 10 years at maximum,15 years if the guy looks like brad pit.
Basically the same set of rules apply as with any nationality of educated middle class girl the world over, nothing changes because that girl happens to be a pinay or thai.
I think its fair to say that most guys who travel long distances at great expense want to date, fuck girls young enough to be their daughters, grand daughters,
these type of guys can only do that by paying a prostitute,
when me and many other members speak about the type of girl that only looks at the money these are the prostitutes, no money no honey is 100% true,
educated working,middle class pinays are able to earn their own money,keep themselves in lifes comforts and look for the exact same things in a relationships with foreigners as any other girl the world over.
[QUOTE=Hutsori;1811998]I don't know what to think. Previously you wrote this about AC.
You posted many other comments that expressed your displeasure with the place. Might have all the raids occurring during your stay made the place more difficult? Appears you had a nice time in 2013; you even wrote an extensive FR, [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1972-Angeles-City&p=1402851#post1402851[/url].
You wrote a rave review about Manila.
If your ticket can't be refunded or changed to another country perhaps you'll enjoy yourself more in Manila than AC.[/QUOTE]Yes the rejection element of AC has always been there and apart of my analysis of AC. I think initially I tried either consciously or subconsciously to ignore the levels of rejection which were always there from the very beginning. Now either I have gotten older and fatter and my personal rejection levels have increased or there is a general increase in rejection from the girls. This is something anyone considering a trip to AC should know, and something that rarely if ever gets talked about is the extremely high levels of rejection often quite rude rejection that you get from the working girls in AC and how difficult it can actually be to pick up a working girl in AC. You have to look your best smell your best and put on your best charm offensive to convince a bar girl to let you bar fine her, and at least 50% or more of the time the time she is going to tell you no (I have menstruation), this of course will only be after you have already shelled out for a couple lady's drinks.
Yes the option of going to Manila is very much in the forefront of my mind and there is a very strong possibility that after a day or two I may become so disgusted with the rejection and difficulty of trying to get a half way decent looking bar girl to let me bar fine her that I may go to Manila.
We shall see if AC wants my money or they have so many customers and they are making so much money they could care less about me spending my money there on this trip or any time in the future.
Chris
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1811936] ....Several of us who have lived and worked here, and who have had the chance to work and socialize with Educated, more financially secure Filipinos have been welcomed into the homes and the lives of the latter and have welcomed the opportunity.GE.[/QUOTE]I agree. I met and dated 2 Philippinas in USA Over the years. They always cooked for me and as well as invited me to many get togethers.
Also, when I worked in England years ago, I met a family across the street from me. The mom was very friendly and she knew I was single. One day she invited me to come over for a Philippine dinner. It was a genuine good thing and much appreciated. Everytime I saw them we had good conversation. Just good people and good neighbors.
[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1812162]Yes the rejection element of AC has always been there and apart of my analysis of AC. I think initially I tried either consciously or subconsciously to ignore the levels of rejection which were always there from the very beginning. Now either I have gotten older and fatter and my personal rejection levels have increased or there is a general increase in rejection from the girls. This is something anyone considering a trip to AC should know, and something that rarely if ever gets talked about is the extremely high levels of rejection often quite rude rejection that you get from the working girls in AC and how difficult it can actually be to pick up a working girl in AC. You have to look your best smell your best and put on your best charm offensive to convince a bar girl to let you bar fine her, and at least 50% or more of the time the time she is going to tell you no (I have menstruation), this of course will only be after you have already shelled out for a couple lady's drinks.
Yes the option of going to Manila is very much in the forefront of my mind and there is a very strong possibility that after a day or two I may become so disgusted with the rejection and difficulty of trying to get a half way decent looking bar girl to let me bar fine her that I may go to Manila.
We shall see if AC wants my money or they have so many customers and they are making so much money they could care less about me spending my money there on this trip or any time in the future.
Chris[/QUOTE]Chris, I take it you have not been in angeles for some time, the rejection % from young slim girls is getting worse with my every visit.
As I wrote some posts back, my last trip I was with a mid 20's friend who is slim, tall and very handsome and he got rejected just as much as us older guys.
As I and many repeatedly say, the girls have so many other ways they can earn fairly large amounts of money working in angeles bars without having to fuck with any one.
Manila is a very good option and the rejection numbers are much lower because of the much higher prices the manila girls demand for their time making it more profitable for them to leave their bar with punters
I went to Angeles for the first and only time last December. I am in my mid 60's but in good shape and relatively handsome for my age. I experienced quite a bit of rejection from younger girls there or they flat out ignored me. I don't need to stay in a pit like Angeles and also put up with that nonsense.
The prior December, I did meet an attractive GRO who had been in Angeles for several years. We had a good time or at least she gave me that impression and so saved her number. Last week, when I texted her that I was in Manila, She first wanted to know who I was. When I reminded her, I was met with radio silence.
As a consequence I went to Subic Bay where I am currently staying. The quality is not nearly as good as Makati or Angeles but at least they all appear willing and available.
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1812370]Chris, I take it you have not been in angeles for some time, the rejection % from young slim girls is getting worse with my every visit.
Manila is a very good option and the rejection numbers are much lower because of the much higher prices the manila girls demand for their time making it more profitable for them to leave their bar with punters[/QUOTE]AC sounds like it is becoming a bad joke. I haven't been there since 2013. I had some good times with some nice girls, but I also had a feeling that things were not right with the bar culture. Rejection from a bar girl? Even if the percentage is low, say around 20%, that is BS and totally unacceptable.
Meanwhile, I have never experienced a bar girl rejection on Burgos or EDSA. NEVER! All the girls are very friendly and more than willing to spend as much time with me as I want. Personally I think Manila girls are better looking, smarter, more sophisticated and definitely offer more of the GFE than their AC counterparts. I traveled to Asia twice in 2015. I hooked up with many amazingly sexy young girls in Jakarta, BKK. Pattaya, and Manila. And my two favorite girls were Burgos Bar girls. Manila captured the gold and silver. Forget AC until it gets better. RIP AC.
Tomasb, I am looking forward to hearing about your Subic trip. Happy trails!
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1812376]AC sounds like it is becoming a bad joke. I haven't been there since 2013. I had some good times with some nice girls, but I also had a feeling that things were not right with the bar culture. Rejection from a bar girl? Even if the percentage is low, say around 20%, that is BS and totally unacceptable.
Meanwhile, I have never experienced a bar girl rejection on Burgos or EDSA. NEVER! All the girls are very friendly and more than willing to spend as much time with me as I want. Personally I think Manila girls are better looking, smarter, more sophisticated and definitely offer more of the GFE than their AC counterparts. Forget AC. RIP.
Tomasb, I am looking forward to hearing about your Subic trip. Happy trails![/QUOTE]To Natty.
I was in AC 2 month ago the Doll house group bar many of the girl only sit with you for drink don't barfined so it is better to go to the smaller bar girl are average but barfined is ok, I have girl at P Burgos say that they are cherry girl don't do barfined also and I heard it happening at bar at subic also.
Fast eddie 48.