Hong Kong Club Reports

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;2816639]Like I said before, if the prices keep going up then guys will stop going to HK because they will become naturally priced out. HK lives off of the average american monger. Yes, you have the jack ass and stupid people that blow 1000's every night, or tip stupid high amounts of money. This is a problem in any major sex tourist destination. "rich" stupid americans that make money and think it's "no big deal" to show up and just drop all their western cash in these 2nd and 3rd world sex clubs. Stupid stupid stupid. All that does is increase the prices for everyone else and fucks up the game entirely.

The good news though is that there are very few of these stupid rich americans. Not everyone has enough money to do those kinds of things, it's only a select few. Most mongers will just get priced out are therefore won't be able to go to HK anymore. Remember what I said before though, HK LIVES off the average american monger. Without the average monger that comes in randomly, spends a couple $100, then leave, HK would be dead. HK cannot survive off those select from random rich jack ass that spend $1000's.

The average monger has more power than you think.[/QUOTE]The average monger in HK is some ghetto black dude or dumbass teenager from america who I guarantee don't make a lot of money. They will still pay the high prices be / see they're idiots and don't know they're going broke, but they just won't have longevity in their activities because they don't have the income to sustain the hobby beyond a couple times or if they do, they'll just go broke and eventually go into crime to rob people to get more money.

Just spoke to one of my HK chicks, she just high tailed it out of the zona earlier. She said there was a big shoot out in the zona very early this morning. She's taking off back to her hometown until things cool down.

[QUOTE=Hargow20;2816666]My big objection is that the HK girls charge a min of $100 for anything. Personally I would not mind paying $50 for a good BJ. Tijuana is now one of most expensive places to find good looking girls in terms of price & quality.[/QUOTE]Quality is sporadic. You need to snag a hot girl before a dozen other guys will. Price yes since you don't need to get on a plane for Asia, Colombia or Brazil. Tijuana is for quickies not too many repeats, not many GFE's, not much to do in a short time destination. Time permitting those other places become much more attractive.

[QUOTE=Nothing24;2816727]Just spoke to one of my HK chicks, she just high tailed it out of the zona earlier. She said there was a big shoot out in the zona very early this morning. She's taking off back to her hometown until things cool down.[/QUOTE]The possible scenarios with closing Adelitas, fire at Chicago's, closing & death at HKTJ all sound like there is something more going on. Cartel disagreements happen, the border crowding might play a role. Time will tell. I am canceling my trip. See you all after Memorial day. Stay safe.

Almost all the girls I see are repeats and or GFE's.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2816728]Quality is sporadic. You need to snag a hot girl before a dozen other guys will. Price yes since you don't need to get on a plane for Asia, Colombia or Brazil. Tijuana is for quickies not too many repeats, not many GFE's, not much to do in a short time destination. Time permitting those other places become much more attractive.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nothing24;2816727]Just spoke to one of my HK chicks, she just high tailed it out of the zona earlier. She said there was a big shoot out in the zona very early this morning. She's taking off back to her hometown until things cool down.[/QUOTE]Wow! I've been to Zona a lot and never heard a gunshot. Also strange it happened in the morning. The police and military really have to handle this or their golden goose is going to die. The other outlying clubs are okay with cheaper drink options, but they are so spread apart and selection is lacking. Hopefully they see a boost with girls finding other options for work. I'm sure they can't remain in their small town or ranches for too long as money runs out.

[QUOTE=Hargow20;2816666]My big objection is that the HK girls charge a min of $100 for anything. Personally I would not mind paying $50 for a good BJ. Tijuana is now one of most expensive places to find good looking girls in terms of price & quality.[/QUOTE]A good BJ seems to be hard to find in HK, but escorts seem to take it to the extreme. It gets to the point where I have to convince them to ride. Not sure if they just enjoy it or if they rather not make eye contact. A $50 BJ could probably found from SG, but not sure of the quality. The best I've had in the world is a Chinese AMP provider. She just does it for me. I have pity for her slender neck and jaw muscles as she puts in so much effort with no gag reflex.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2816655]You are correct, but there is a lot more guys spending big money at HK, then you can ever imagine. These are the guys HK is catering too. The guy spending a $100 a night has no option. Maybe some dive bar. An average night in MTY / CDMX runs $250-400 and this does not include travel expenses. Now this might be for dinner and the entire night, but definitely not $100, just not going to happen.

I am sure you can get girls in Colombia or Asia.

Cheaper, but then you miss a couple of days of work in addition to your expenses for chicks. So getting laid for $100, is long gone.

Prices at HK are still relatively cheap compared to the rest of destinations.[/QUOTE]We are spoiled if you live in SoCal and can drive within an hour to the club. I've been all over the world and never seen a strip club or brothel like HK. It still puts a smile on my face seeing the variety of chicas dancing on poles on every bar top minus the fake ass and titties. Natural is the way to go, but working girls trying to compete for business and modify their bodies to extremes. Pattaya and Phuket have crazy gogos, but most are rather skinny.

Macau saunas are great with a UN variety from around the world and all you can eat food and beverages, but hard to make selection as they are clothed. Hong Kong SAR has walk ups and you can knock on doors until you find what you are looking for, but also questionable. Dubai bars are also questionable as most are smash and grab experiences, but might find the odd Filipina, Ethiopian that will stay the night. If any bros have recommendations then I am all ears. Another buddy used to talk about Help in Brazil, but it is long gone.

The best bet is to either hit up HK first and then bang a SG or bang a SG and whatever is left drink and tip HK chicas.

[QUOTE=Nothing24;2816727]Just spoke to one of my HK chicks, she just high tailed it out of the zona earlier. She said there was a big shoot out in the zona very early this morning. She's taking off back to her hometown until things cool down.[/QUOTE]That sounds serious. I would only mention shoot outs if they are verifiable and not just rumors.

People are planning trips. It's important to know what is really the climate and scene like currently at HK and what is just bogus.

[QUOTE=KBToys;2816743]We are spoiled if you live in SoCal and can drive within an hour to the club. I've been all over the world and never seen a strip club or brothel like HK. It still puts a smile on my face seeing the variety of chicas dancing on poles on every bar top minus the fake ass and titties. Natural is the way to go, but working girls trying to compete for business and modify their bodies to extremes. Pattaya and Phuket have crazy gogos, but most are rather skinny.

Macau saunas are great with a UN variety from around the world and all you can eat food and beverages, but hard to make selection as they are clothed. Hong Kong SAR has walk ups and you can knock on doors until you find what you are looking for, but also questionable. Dubai bars are also questionable as most are smash and grab experiences, but might find the odd Filipina, Ethiopian that will stay the night. If any bros have recommendations then I am all ears. Another buddy used to talk about Help in Brazil, but it is long gone.

The best bet is to either hit up HK first and then bang a SG or bang a SG and whatever is left drink and tip HK chicas.[/QUOTE]Yep, very hard to beat HK, for a evening or a few days. I hear all these complaints, but nothing comes close HK, it is in a league of its own.

I can either pay $400-500 for a girl on SA and this does not count food or drinks.

A Strip Club or escort would be even more and most of these girls have many issues and lots of drama. I just do understand how you guys can complain about Tijuana, so much fun. I have 5 hour drive to MTY or have to catch a flight, for the Hot Latinas.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2816729]The possible scenarios with closing Adelitas, fire at Chicago's, closing & death at HKTJ all sound like there is something more going on. Cartel disagreements happen, the border crowding might play a role. Time will tell. I am canceling my trip. See you all after Memorial day. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]Ok, so I did not want to be the 1 starting rumors, and didn't say anything specific yesterday about what I heard about the Zona situation. Because what I heard was very serious. The guy who gave me this was a Chicago club hotel guest refugee who ran off the revolution street after the fire in Chicago. Now he does coke and weed, and drinks, so there's chance he's giving out bad info. But what the monger said was that the military in the street told him all this stuff is related and its about employees of each club fighting and there was a big shootout in the area. I don't know if it was in street or in hotel. But thata what he said the Mexican military told him. Its kind of like China saying the virus started 2 blocks away from the virus making lab and not from the lab. I don't believe in coincidences. But that's me the pessimist. That all happned thurs night. Things seem back to normal now though. So who knows.

[QUOTE=KBToys;2816740]Wow! I've been to Zona a lot and never heard a gunshot. Also strange it happened in the morning. The police and military really have to handle this or their golden goose is going to die. The other outlying clubs are okay with cheaper drink options, but they are so spread apart and selection is lacking. Hopefully they see a boost with girls finding other options for work. I'm sure they can't remain in their small town or ranches for too long as money runs out.[/QUOTE]This reminds me of a trip a couple of years ago. Was at HK on a Friday / Saturday night and everything was super crowded. I've got a bit of a buzz going and don't speak a word of Spanish. Watching the whipped cream show and then all of a sudden all the guys leave, like almost everyone. Girls are all still there, show is still going on, so me and a couple of other guys grab a good seat and keep on enjoying life. Things pick back up after a couple of minutes, I don't think anything of it. About 20-30 minutes later I decide to leave and do a stroll around the block, mostly because the smoke was bothering me. There was a huge crowd on the back area and tons of police with lights flashing and the street closed. Turned out someone got shot, I had no clue. Only time I have seen anything lke that. Guess it's a good thing my next trip isn't till June, and I think I will have something set up with a service, ZN might be a no go for a bit.

This article basically states most of what has already been discussed. The only thing that is new to me was the mention of a video showing the National Guard wanting money. I never noticed that video in the news.

[URL]https://puntonorte.info/2023/05/13/centro-nudista-hong-kong-encubre-muerte-de-militar-de-estados-unidos-se-negaron-a-dar-videos-y-los-desaparecieron/[/URL]

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2816729]The possible scenarios with closing Adelitas, fire at Chicago's, closing & death at HKTJ all sound like there is something more going on. Cartel disagreements happen, the border crowding might play a role. Time will tell. I am canceling my trip. See you all after Memorial day. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it's been in the back of my mind for a while now that a lot of this is tied together, perhaps specifically to HK group trying to take control of Zona Norte. Probably not the overdoses / deaths, but some of the other stuff. Goes back to HK just happening to hike their prices the same week the federales came and shut Adelitas down a while back. Also the fire at Chicago just happening to occur the same day HK got raided. I just get the sense that there's something a bit deeper there. Again, perhaps tied to HK making a move to take over Zona Norte. While it's just a rumor, a regular chica of mine who's worked at both Adelitas and HK (works at HK right now) and who I trust basically told me as much. That the owners of HK are conspiring with another rich businessman who has an issue with the owner of Adelitas to run the Adelitas owner out of Tijuana.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2816765]Yep, very hard to beat HK, for a evening or a few days. I hear all these complaints, but nothing comes close HK, it is in a league of its own.

I can either pay $400-500 for a girl on SA and this does not count food or drinks.

A Strip Club or escort would be even more and most of these girls have many issues and lots of drama. I just do understand how you guys can complain about Tijuana, so much fun. I have 5 hour drive to MTY or have to catch a flight, for the Hot Latinas.[/QUOTE]Definitely agree HK is in a lead of its own.

BUT, the vibe of the club and the number of people employed (meseros, gals) which is also the basis of their power is fueled not just by the big spenders but the average guy who comes to HK buys drinks for a gal and takes her up. Those average guys will reduce frequency if prices rise and that will impact top line and bottom line. Both matter since top line is what gives them leverage.