American Politics

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2994829]

Now I lay a lot of the blame, as does Ralph nader, of our descent into fascism at the feet of the Democrats. We have truly dropped the ball by embracing neoliberal economic policies starting with Bill Clinton and of course the insane identity politics. It's time to get back to pro working class, pro union, anti-corporate policies that will bring the working Man back into the fold. Democrats should stand firm on universal health care, four weeks paid vacation, excellent pensions at a reasonable age, paid education through University and tech school, clean energy, the food supply devoid of pesticides and antibiotics, excellent public transportation, etc. You know, make the US a truly develop nation.[/QUOTE][URL]https://youtu.be/VxNAdilyqow?si=gKM9hBABHs1mF1ms[/URL]

[QUOTE=Spidy;2995687]China's combined two (2) largest solar farms arrays, will supplant and annually save 680,000 tonnes of [i][b]dirty methane nat.gas[/b][/i] or 1.36 million tonnes of dirty coal fossil fuels.

[b]Chinas CNNC begins work on 2GW offshore solar farm in Jiangsu[/b]
The facility will save 680,000 tonnes of standard coal and reduce carbon dioxide emissions by 1.77 million tonnes annually. [url]https://www.power-technology.com/news/cnnc-construction-2gw-offshore-solar/[/url]

As previously reported:
[b]China Activates Worlds Largest Offshore Floating Solar Installation [/b]
[url]https://cleantechnica.com/2024/11/16/china-activates-worlds-largest-offshore-floating-solar-installation/[/url]

Meanwhile, the American MAGA Fuhrer's "drill-baby-drill" and "...beautiful clean coal/gas" economy, has recently lost $6 trillion dollars in 2-days, the most in U.S. 2-day market history and [u]$11 trillion since inauguration day,[/u] again the worst start of any president in U.S. history.



More boneheaded MAGA Fuhrer, neanderthal moves, to plunge Americans backwards, into a "burn-baby-burn", hellscape, not seen since George W. Bushs presidency and the dot-com crash!

Yet another fine example of Repub's being so called "better at the economy", than Dems [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i][/QUOTE]China still make very big pollution and a lot of lies. USA pollute twice more than Europe, per citizen and crazy Trump wants to pollute more. Inflation and falling USD for no brained Americans who elected a shame for second time. Only good point is petrol rate will fall, making less money for Putin war and saving money for a big driver like me, less than 0,7 € for my french ecologic E85 , about 10 € for 100 kms, when driving more than 5000 kms per month.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2995186]100% with you on this, Tiny. While I never have been a fan of Trump, I can completely understand why he has come into power twice. There are millions of Americans who've been let down by the system and for whom the American dream is somewhat of a nightmare. I am as far as you can get from a socialist but it does seem to me that in the west in general but especially in America that while the pie has grown massively the share of the pie accruing to different segments has changed considerably. That isn't great, but contrary to many leftists I don't think that's the worst phenomenon either (as long as everyone rises it's not a big deal if some rise much more than others). No, the much bigger issue is what economists may refer to as an externality or maybe second order effect: e. G. As a nation grows increasingly wealthy, the value and cost of the capital base in most relevantly real estate grows commensurately much more and this cascades downwards. In conjunction with this the income of the lower earning segments has remained stagnant as a consequence of technological advancement and of globalisation, so there you have it: Millions of people who are earning in real terms slightly more than they would have in the 70's with costs vastly greater. And there is the issue you are flagging, what are they going to save? BTW, a lot of people talk about AI dystopia and how it could shake up the economy negatively, I say tech has been doing just that for decades. We just haven't woken up to it. There's a very interesting book on this called Power and Progress by noble prize winning author Daron Acemoglu.

I am not wised up to how America got into this mess of $36 trillion+ of debt but I get the sense it's irresponsiblity of a series of administrations. Regardless, what's the solution? So, savings by ordinary Americans is out. These tariffs are imbecility. I kind of agree America needs a new new deal. We've discyssed you guys need a revised health system the likes of German, Singapore, Japan, Aus, etc. And if they can figure out a decent system much cheaper so can you guys. That would save a hell of a lot of money for the ordinary American. Then some kind of an interventionist approach which mitigates against the aforementioned externalities. I strongly disagree with extraordinary growth in real estate value, it serves no value to society and just increases inequality. You have some crazy cost of living there, and I'm not qualified to understand quite how it is so, but it seems the labour pool and the lack of automation have quite a lot to do with this. But then you need pragmatic policies to deal with aforementioned externalities. You need a smart visionary leader. But for now, this batshit motherfucker is driving, so I guess we just kick back and just enjoy the ride. Happy Black Monday everyone.[/QUOTE]Hi HotDog, The affordability of housing varies greatly depending on where you live in the USA. I just looked up the figures here in Texas, and the median home price is $300,000, and median household income is $80,000. So $300,000 is doable for the majority of families. Now you go to coastal California or New York City and yeah, housing isn't affordable for the workingman. That's part of why a lot of Californians are moving to Texas. Things cost a lot less here, I believe in part because regulation is looser. California, the Northeast and large blue (Democratic controlled) cities everywhere have climate, environmental, labor and other agendas that drive up prices. Also, as to housing specifically, the land's a big consideration. If there's no place to build, the value of land and houses goes up. However, that too is often a function of government, which may restrict development. And as you know, it's not a problem confined to the USA. Australia, Vancouver, London, many cities in Western Europe, they all have the same problem.

As to income inequality, I believe things were static or getting better up through the Clinton administration. The workingman however lost ground under George W. Bush and Barrack Obama. He gained up lost ground under Trump, but then lost it again during the Biden presidency.

Now unlike most posters here, I don't think the presidents actually had a lot of control over that, except Biden fucked up with his American Rescue Plan, which kickstarted inflation. Often, during times of inflation, the elite do reasonably well, and the middle class suffers, which is what happened here. In real terms, median wages didn't increase during the Biden administration. Actually Trump right now may be fucking up worse than Biden with the tariffs. If he doesn't back off, potentially a lot worse.

Anyway I believe the long term solution is doing a better job with education and alleviating childhood poverty. And not automatically steering kids to college. Many would be better encouraged to take up careers as electricians, nurses and the like. And there's my Singapore idea, which would have some added benefits besides improving the healthcare system. While Trump's tariffs and the Democrats' lust for big government risk throwing away it all, the USA is one of the most prosperous countries in the world. That's if you kick out very small places (for example, Monaco) and petrostates (e. G. Dubai). Median household income is $80,000 per year. People in the poorest state, Mississippi, have higher average income, adjusted for purchasing power, than the Japanese or residents of the UK. A large part of the problem IMO is the majority of people can't save. We're a nation of spendthrifts. And actually, solve that, get our people to save and our politicians to stop running huge fiscal deficits, and the trade balance as a % of GDP would be reduced substantially.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2995321]So I hear Netanyahu is in town as the first foreign leader (why, of course) to be invited to meet Trump. He is seeking exemption from the tariffs. How exactly do I think the meeting will go down between America and the tail that wags the American dog? This is what I think.

Netanyahu: wtf you think you doing, motherfucker? Have you forgotten who rules America?

Trump: It's Presentation, Benjamin, and you know I like Presentation. I got to have presentation, you can't not have presentation. What will people think of me if I don't do presentation. There's no one who does presentation better than Trump.

Netanyahu: Just make shit up, motherfucker, or your time is over. We own America. You know it. I know it. You don't get to tariff us.

Trump: yes sir. Would you like your blowjob now or after lunch?

Netanyahu: After motherfucker. And what's taking you so long on imprisoning or ejecting everyone who criticizes Israel?

Trump: I have already started, master. And I have my best man on the job- his name is Xpartan- in identifying and rounding up anyone who doesn't prostate themselves to the Israeli flag.

Netanyhahu: Yeah, it's not fast enough. Work harder on the media. They didn't cover up the massacre of the aid workers by the IDF. Wtf do you think we own the media for?

Trump: It's my next executive order, master. Now if you would care to take out your cock, I am ready when you are.[/QUOTE]Back years ago I looked up historical aid contributions to Israel from the USA, and added contributions to Egypt. Those went up a good bit after President Carter bought off those two countries so they'd stop fighting. Then I adjusted for inflation, and divided by the number of Jewish households in Israel. The USA should have just paid Israeli's of Jewish ancestry to move to the USA and give the land back to the Palestinians. It would have been cheaper. Today Israel's a first world country, and we're still providing tons of aid! All the while they're using it in part to kill a lot of civilians. It's nuts.

Israeli's in general are enterprising, intelligent people. If we'd brought them here, the USA would be better off for it. Except that they lean left politically. Actually that's the Achilles heal in Trump's plan to make Canada and Greenland the 51st and 52nd states respectively. Nothing's perfect.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2995482][B]When people are stupid and lose their money they look for a fall guy[/B]

They do not take personal responsibility. There are only two types who buy crypto. Those who self custody and those who don't. [B]If you buy crypto, don't be stupid![/B]. Practice self-custody. If you wear a condom to fuck, but don't self custody your crypto you are simply saying that your dick is more important than the money you invested in crypto.

The goal of the current administration is to drive the economy into a recession so that it that people lose their homes, real estate prices crash, commercial property owners cannot pay their mortgages and wind up in foreclosure. So POTUS, his family and his cronies can swoop in and buy up every thing for pennies on the dollar using low interest loans because the FED is forced to lower rates.

[B]BITCOIN (BTC)[/B] allows me to avoid all that. When given a choice between buying more real estate or buying BTC. You KNOW what I am going to do. I recently turned down a residential real estate deal here that rented monthly would have given me a cash on cash 9. 34% return on my money after renovations. I am buying more BTC with the money. The more the price goes down, the more I plan to buy. I HODL Bitcoin. I speculate on the price of Bitcoin using MSTR and futures contracts. The pivot point for BTC that I am using is 69 K. As long as the price stays above 69 K we can go to 130 K. ATH is 109 K. If we get a substantial move up and it does not result in a new ATH this cycle is done!

NVDA below 100 USD is a buy for me. Don't care what BOND fan boys say. AI is driving the future. I will address the big picture of AI in my next post.[/QUOTE]Thanks SubCmdr.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2995777]Hi HotDog, The affordability of housing varies greatly depending on where you live in the USA. I just looked up the figures here in Texas, and the median home price is $300,000, and median household income is $80,000. So $300,000 is doable for the majority of families. Now you go to coastal California or New York City and yeah, housing isn't affordable for the workingman. That's part of why a lot of Californians are moving to Texas. Things cost a lot less here, I believe in part because regulation is looser. California, the Northeast and large blue (Democratic controlled) cities everywhere have climate, environmental, labor and other agendas that drive up prices. Also, as to housing specifically, the land's a big consideration. If there's no place to build, the value of land and houses goes up. However, that too is often a function of government, which may restrict development. And as you know, it's not a problem confined to the USA. Australia, Vancouver, London, many cities in Western Europe, they all have the same problem.

[B]As to income inequality, I believe things were static or getting better up through the Clinton administration. The workingman however lost ground under George W. Bush and Barrack Obama. He gained up lost ground under Trump, but then lost it again during the Biden presidency.[/b]

Now unlike most posters here, I don't think the presidents actually had a lot of control over that, except Biden fucked up with his American Rescue Plan, which kickstarted inflation. Often, during times of inflation, the elite do reasonably well, and the middle class suffers, which is what happened here. In real terms, median wages didn't increase during the Biden administration. Actually Trump right now may be fucking up worse than Biden with the tariffs. If he doesn't back off, potentially a lot worse.

Anyway I believe the long term solution is doing a better job with education and alleviating childhood poverty. And not automatically steering kids to college. Many would be better encouraged to take up careers as electricians, nurses and the like. And there's my Singapore idea, which would have some added benefits besides improving the healthcare system. While Trump's tariffs and the Democrats' lust for big government risk throwing away it all, the USA is one of the most prosperous countries in the world. That's if you kick out very small places (for example, Monaco) and petrostates (e. G. Dubai). Median household income is $80,000 per year. People in the poorest state, Mississippi, have higher average income, adjusted for purchasing power, than the Japanese or residents of the UK. A large part of the problem IMO is the majority of people can't save. We're a nation of spendthrifts. And actually, solve that, get our people to save and our politicians to stop running huge fiscal deficits, and the trade balance as a % of GDP would be reduced substantially.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]As to income inequality, I believe things were static or getting better up through the Clinton administration. The workingman however lost ground under George W. Bush and Barrack Obama. He gained up lost ground under Trump, but then lost it again during the Biden presidency.[/QUOTE]May we see a link or two for those claims?

I am anxious to see how much of the "ground" was lost for the working man under Obama and Biden due to the unavoidable inflation every country in the world experiences in the course of a recovery from a colossal economic downturn vs "ground" he gained under Trump when welfare checks are being sent out to keep entire industries afloat in the midst of a failed Trade war with China, inflation plunges to zero along with the price of gas and most everything else in the midst of a major economic downturn when millions of jobs were being wiped out. Oh, but when the FDR / Dems' unemployment insurance still kept most working men from going completely broke for the duration.

Or was it simply that the wealthiest in America lost the most amount of money during those Great Repub / Bush2 and Great Repub / Trump Economic Disasters as Musk and other are today and that natural outcome is what "evened up" the income inequality for a moment or two?

Perhaps links for those claims will flesh out the missing pieces of this puzzle.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2995699]Quite the double entendre.

Nobody wants to be a friend of Xi and the CCP.

Not even the 1. 5 billion miserable slaves of CCPland.[/QUOTE]President Musk does.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2995823]May we see a link or two for those claims?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Every time someone gets a link for you showing you how delusional you are, you attack the source and blow it off. If you do not know that Texas is much cheaper to live in than California, then you have your head in the sand.

Here is a blow to your Democratic douche economic utopia, Florida now has more people than New York. Its citizens pay no taxes, All-in, Florida's entire state budget is literally half of New York's ($85 billion vs $176 billion). Florida has the best education system in the USA to boot, [URL]https://www.fldoe.org/newsroom/latest-news/florida-ranked-1-in-education-for-second-year-in-a-row.stml[/URL]

The weather is better in Florida as are the roads. So how come New York fails to deliver on every measure versus New York? And why are so many people moving there if you Democratic douches are such economic geniuses?

The answer to me is obvious. New York has the worst pension system for taxpayers in the country. I have heard about state workers getting hair implants and boob jobs on their health plans. You work 20 or 30 years and there are mechanisms to lock in 150% of your salary. And then you have the losers / turncoats like you who take their pensions and high tail to places like Thailand and live like a king and then lecture us about how to do things in the USA.

New York's state and local pension systems made payments totaling $29.2 billion, in fiscal year 2020. [URL]https://ballotpedia.org/Public_pensions_in_New_York[/URL]

That is 34% of Florida's whole damned budget.

So now we have the truth. New York, the great blue state with its wonderous economic model, is only great for foreign living government pigs like yourself. For the citizens who actually live there, it sucks.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2995782]Thanks SubCmdr.[/QUOTE]LOL. Yes, I appreciate the link. When I read something like that, I realize who the fools who have been making money in the Biden / Brezhnev market. The joke in the Brezhnev time was the USSR was the richest country in the world because everyone stealing and there were still things left over.

Facts do not go over well with a guy like SC. The disturbing fact in his foolish conspiracy theory is the price of TSLA and Truth Social have plummeted. If they wanted to buy things on the cheap, then why didn't Trump and Musk liquidate their billions in positions before the market crashed? Ah yes, they have squirreled away billions in their piggy banks, and he and he alone "knows" that. Oh brother. And never mind that real estate is way, way overpriced right now.

Then we go onto the great and most putrid pig of the Brezhnev / Biden era, AI. AI is going to save the world. SC's brilliant analysis on that is AI is the future and people will always buy the fastest chips. Don't people always want the best Iphone too? The WSJ just did an article on how the Iphone would cost $3000 if it was built in the USA versus the $1100 they are paying today. That is totally bullshit by the way. The idea was Americans love their new Iphones so much that they will squeal bloody murder.

I was looking at getting my gal and her daughter new phones. AT&T was selling the iphone 16 for $6 per month for 36 months. That is $216 not $1100. Whoops. Where they get you is the memory. If you want 512 GB of memory, which costs Apple like $20 total, AT&T charges you an added $20 a month. So the real cost would be $936 per phone with that memory. I do the calculation and instead buy an unlocked refurbished Iphone 15 for $600 with 512 GB of memory. So this is my big fuck you to the WSJ: I have never paid $1100 for a phone and I never will.

Then there was my gal. She likes Samsung, and it is the same schtick. If you want 128 GB of memory, the $1100 phone is $200 . If you want more, it goes closer to $1000. So for her, I buy a new but 3 year old Samsung for $500 and it comes from China.

Oh, but Elvis, you cannot do that anymore. Tariffs will kill you. Nope, Trump has changed when tariffs kick in. The value where tariffs used to kick in was $2500. Trump has lowered that to $800. A lot of people have missed this part. There would be no tariffs on my purchase even after what Trump has done.

But, but, but SCs point is that people always want the fastest chips. Well, I am one of those people and I just showed you I did not. I do not need the fastest chips and my women are going to love their new phones.

Then there is the google pixel. Their phones had these great cameras and their components were inferior to some of the higher end phone makers like Apple. How was that possible? Because google makes Android, and they were able to integrate the best picture software seamlessly. In other words, you do not need the "fastest chips" to have the best product. You need the best hardware and best software. What Google showed is if you have great software and just good hardware, you can have the best product.

As for bitcoin let's go back to the Apple deal. If Apple keeps making their phones in China, the theoretical price to make one goes from $550 to $950, and that means Apple is going to have to charge $1500 or so a phone to make the same profits. I will make the dubious assumption that Apple is not going to be able to do that and their sales and stock will go down. Anyone who bought Apple stock on margin is going to have to liquidate their holdings which include bitcoin. So just forget about bitcoin being spared in a recession. It plummeted in 2009. It will plummet if there is a recession now.

So next you have the Toomsian dumb fuck model where interest rates are going up while the world crashes. If there is a recession, that means demand for things including the demand for money goes down. People cannot borrow anymore. If there is less demand for money / credit, then rates come down. This Toomsian world where in this economy the economy crashes but rates stay high is absurd.

When you make the proclamation that AI is the future, are YOU using it right now? If so, is it as essential as what you eat or is it a gimmick? Everyone I know uses their phones and the internet but no one I personally know is using AI right now. I have been hearing about how great this tech has been for 5 years now. When does it stop being the future and starts being the present?

And what you will see from SC is the usual string of insults about his dick size, how everyone is racist, and this idiotic Trump conspiracy theory. I could care less if someone is on line and tells me how smart they are because they bought something and it went up. If you do not have a good reason for the why, then you are just lucky.

Why in the world did Trump pause the flow of hundreds of billions of dollars INTO the USA FROM other countries that had been cheating and taking advantage of us for so many years?

We were counting on that foreign money to pay for Childcare, because we have to have Childcare, and to pay for our groceries, damn I'm glad Trump invented that word, and so many other things the likes of which nobody has ever seen.

Does Trump love other countries more than he loves America now? Why oh why is he denying us all that foreign money for even 1 day much less 90 days?

Or will it be "two weeks"?

[B]Trump explains his tariff reversal: 'People were getting a little bit yippee'.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/09/trump-tariffs-live-updates.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]White House advisors claim the flip flop was always the strategy, suggesting that the past week of massive tariffs that triggered huge market losses was all for show.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2995639]I would have to assume many countries are champing at the bit to get in a room to negotiate a new "deal" with Donald Trump. After witnessing how Xi wiped the floor with him, got everything he wanted and gave up nothing in 2018 and 2019, as Putin is still doing with his Ukraine War negotiations with Trump, who wouldn't want to renegotiate a deal with Trump where all you have to do is complement his hair and you get a much BETTER deal than you had before?

Mortgage rates slingshot higher as tariff uncertainty roils markets[/QUOTE]LOL. So now that the market has had the biggest rally in 5 years, is Trump a genius?

Go back to what I said.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2995564]So I could go on about how smart I am and how dumb other people were, but say I did that and Trump takes away all the tariffs, and then the market rallies? Then I look like an idiot. I only knew the market was overvalued. I did not know why or how or when it was going to crash.[/QUOTE]Trump is dead set on getting the budget deficit and trade deficits down, and he thinks tariffs are the way to do it. Trump does not impose 10% tariffs. He goes to 80 and 90% tariffs, and fools like you scream what an idiot he is. The dummies in the market sell everything. He now goes to a 10% rate, and instead of people screaming bloody murder, the market rallies. Instead of being freaked out, people are grateful for "only" 10% tariffs. That is the art of the deal.

How many times are you Democratic douches going to fall for this? If you think Trump is rational as I do, this tactic falls on its face. If you think he is crazy, and you have the lamestream media telling you that night and day, then the Trump strategy keeps working. Thing about you Democratic douches is I think you would rather slit your wrists than get your collective heads out of your asses about Trump being rational. Two days from now, you will be posting another link about how crazy Trump is, and once again, that means he has you just where he wants you.

What you will not do is make the fundamental case against what Trump is trying to accomplish: lowering the trade deficits and federal budget deficits. In fact, you are such a Biden kiss ass that you have to say that those deficits do not matter. The Biden plan was racking up debt and giving "jobs" to government workers for their votes. We know now fucking worthless those "jobs" really were.

Unlike Clinton who used to care about the blue collar worker, Biden opened the borders up and was fucking over the blue collar worker. It was the same schtick. If I pay you illegals off by allowing you to work in the USA, you should vote for me.

It is not enough to say that Trump is crazy. If you Democrats had a plan in place that was superior to Trump's, I might actually vote for you, but you have no plan. All you have is Trump is crazy and deficits do not matter. Is there any wonder why you lost and will lose again?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2995922][b]Every time someone gets a link for you showing you how delusional you are, you attack the source and blow it off.[/b] If you do not know that Texas is much cheaper to live in than California, then you have your head in the sand.

Here is a blow to your Democratic douche economic utopia, Florida now has more people than New York. Its citizens pay no taxes, All-in, Florida's entire state budget is literally half of New York's ($85 billion vs $176 billion). Florida has the best education system in the USA to boot, [URL]https://www.fldoe.org/newsroom/latest-news/florida-ranked-1-in-education-for-second-year-in-a-row.stml[/URL]

The weather is better in Florida as are the roads. So how come New York fails to deliver on every measure versus New York? And why are so many people moving there if you Democratic douches are such economic geniuses?

The answer to me is obvious. New York has the worst pension system for taxpayers in the country. I have heard about state workers getting hair implants and boob jobs on their health plans. You work 20 or 30 years and there are mechanisms to lock in 150% of your salary. And then you have the losers / turncoats like you who take their pensions and high tail to places like Thailand and live like a king and then lecture us about how to do things in the USA.

New York's state and local pension systems made payments totaling $29.2 billion, in fiscal year 2020. [URL]https://ballotpedia.org/Public_pensions_in_New_York[/URL]

That is 34% of Florida's whole damned budget.

So now we have the truth. New York, the great blue state with its wonderous economic model, is only great for foreign living government pigs like yourself. For the citizens who actually live there, it sucks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Every time someone gets a link for you showing you how delusional you are, you attack the source and blow it off.[/QUOTE]I don't think that is true at all. My style is to show how even the link the sneaky MAGA provides disproves and debunks his point.

Can you provide a link supporting such a claim?

BTW, your links only show that Florida has more parents choosing to put their kids in schools other than traditional public schools, nothing about them being "best":

[QUOTE]The assessment focuses on alternative pathways and educational choices that parents and students have access to beyond traditional public schools.[/QUOTE]And something about how many billions New York State had on hand in 2020, before Trump's Pandemic ravaged a whole bunch of Red States' budgets?

[QUOTE]New York's state and local pension systems held $545.0 billion in total cash and investment holdings, as of fiscal year 2020.[/QUOTE]

[B]It is NOT going to save the regular person![/B]

Only if they are extremely competent and educated (self) in the technical aspects of the technology.

What is missed on a consistent basis is that POTUS wants manufacturing returned to the Dis-United States of America because he want the factories there. He wants the infrastructure there because he knows once the factories are built AI paired with robots are going to eliminate the factor worker. Think I am joking. Goto DOHA and check out the baggage handling system. Only humans that touch the bags are when the are put into the system and taking off of the carts and loaded onto the planes. The entire system is monitored by less than 20 highly skilled workers in a control room. With a small crew of maintenance people to handle faults in the system.

Workers are going to be replaced. If those factories are not in the Dis-United States of America under the NEW WORLD ORDER being dictated by the current administration is literally up a creek without a paddle.

The Dis-United States of America cannot match the level of ship building production of China if all hands on deck shooting war was to break out. They better let Japan back into the Naval Aviation game if Dis-United States of America wants to go toe to toe with the Chinese Navy. Because the Chinese Navy is not a blue water Navy. They are fighting close to their homeland. The Dis-United States of America need to allow the Japanese war dogs out and let them get at them!

If this is a dead cat bounce, it's the biggest one I've ever seen. I'm still in the red though, but it's good seeing the stock market go up again, but we'll see how long this lasts. Either way I'm out. I'd consider myself lucky if I can break even. Want my damn cash back now. Too much volatility. Woo hoo! Let's make America recession again baby!

So senile Trump with 0 knowledge about economics. USA really fell so down with him. Only good point, when stupid Trump failed about Ukrainian war, is the fall for petrol rate, good for me for my driving and bad for Putin war, when he will only stop when no more money, but not when Trump is swallowing his sperm.