Angeles City

[QUOTE=ImAGuy;1813081]To the guys getting rejected, how old are you, what shape are you in, etc? Does that matter with these girls? I'll go to AC soon and report in.[/QUOTE]Doesn't matter. I personally know guys in their 60's (20+ years older than me) and they still get girls. So age, weight, doesn't matter. It's all about the girls' perception of you as a customer and the money of course. Just screen the girl first. When you find one you like, ask her if she barfines upfront. If she say no, or I have my period, then no need to buy her a drink. Move on to the next one.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1813222]Doesn't matter. I personally know guys in their 60's (20+ years older than me) and they still get girls. So age, weight, doesn't matter. It's all about the girls' perception of you as a customer and the money of course. Just screen the girl first. When you find one you like, ask her if she barfines upfront. If she say no, or I have my period, then no need to buy her a drink. Move on to the next one.[/QUOTE]It is not always about the money. Some guys have a sour attitude and girls pick up on it. I go to AC to party and when girls see you having a good time, not sitting and staring, they are open to going out. If I go in a bar and I don't feel any vibe, I pay my bill and go to the next bar. So far, I have not run out of bars. I met one cute spinner and after playing with her for five minutes, I went to the CR, she followed and gave a me a BJ in the stall. But I do not go to the big show bars, as I find they are a waste of time and money.

IMO that is the best thing about the Philippines. There are so many options. I opened my WeChat and within 15 minutes I had 10 girls messaging me.

Robb.

I was there in Jan. Going there in two weeks the quality has been down the hot ones make more in Manila.

And like some people said on here so many facebook DIA is paying these girls for love stories.

Trust me I'm early 30's look like I'm 20's and I was shocked from the change of attitudes and looks.

I go every year and don't get me wrong was never rejected but especially from the high end bars.

The performance was horrible (Dollhouse, Crystal Palace etc) stick to the smaller ones you will get better GFE.

Hello,

I did visit this bat two nights in a row. The atmosphere in the bar was nice. Most girls were funny and a few that look attractive to me.

The first night I did meet a lady called Belinda. Long hair, looks a bit Indian. Anyway she was really funny and caring every minute I spend with her. When having some food outside before going to the hotel it was just like meeting long list friend. In the room she was very nice too. Did love her rimming me after a good night of sleep. The next day she was not in the bar wanted to stay home and do laundry and just rest. She left 2 pm in the afternoon.

Next time I did take a girl named Lilia. A few years younger. In the bar she acted nice but once outside the bar she was constantly paying attention to other things but not to me. I did already got the feeling that it would be a dreadful night. She would not allow kissing. I loved her tits, small but solid but her attitude was just annoying. Because she did not respond a lot to my touch I just fell sleep. Around 8 am I did wake up, wake her up and told her to leave. She had the guts to ask for the chocolate bar I did show her before sleeping. She ID ask if I did bring some!

Will leave ac tomorrow so I don't think it is useful to complain in at the bar.

Maybe I will go back to the bar tonight to meet Belinda or I will take the girl I took from body shop a few days ago. The last one looks really nice and her attitude was nice too.

I agree that ac did go down in quality. There are more and more girls with a jollibee belly. There are still pretty ones to be found. But there are many who have a bad attitude towards customers. The way they are begging for drink is very annoying much to pushy.

Getting to acid a nightmare if you arrive at manila airport. Not sure if I will return. Only if I can fly directly into Clark airport.

Greetings,

Frits

[QUOTE=ImAGuy;1813081]To the guys getting rejected, how old are you, what shape are you in, etc? Does that matter with these girls? I'll go to AC soon and report in.[/QUOTE]Age and physical appearance is less important to girls than you think. Being nice to girls is less important than you think. Even money is less important than you think. It is hard to explain or describe what is important. Dressing well, shaving neatly, all that stuff, is rather important. Intangible things that are hard to define or describe are important. Seeming wealthy is important. Being fun is important. Charisma is important.

If you are having trouble BF a decent girl in AC then it boils down to one or more of AAA.

Appearance.

Attitude.

Assets.

Appearance speaks and smells for itself.

Attitude is very important. If you treating them like sluts and wh*res then why would they want to be with you? Most AC bg are not here for long. Mostly fresh out of the province looking to feed their family or pay for life threatening medical bills.

Assets. If you are a cheap Charlie then forget it. You don't have to over pay but tipping does help. Then again there are some people that tipping won't even help.

Nothing hard about it.

I'm guessing AC is the canary in the coal mine? I have noticed a drop in quality in the girls online, as well as an increase in price. One girl, a 9 in my book, just asked for 125 K php / month as that is what a Korean was giving her. Hmm.

[QUOTE=ImAGuy;1813362]I'm guessing AC is the canary in the coal mine? I have noticed a drop in quality in the girls online, as well as an increase in price. One girl, a 9 in my book, just asked for 125 K php / month as that is what a Korean was giving her. Hmm.[/QUOTE]She was just trying luck. Is that for just knowing her, or having her stay with him for a month? She just wanted to see if your a sucker.

I am not convinced Koreans bar fine or pay for sex, very much. Ladies drinks, fun night out (fun for them) with their mate / s, ladies drink chick sitting next to them, seems to be what they are after. I would not be surprised if young K's get sex without barfining, before or after girl works. I am not convinced they are big spenders. They have other things going for them.

Don't forget most K's are half or a third of the age, and half the weight (LOL) , of the white guys, who complain girls only go with K's.

With more effort you can still get the K girls. More rejections yes, but still can get an 8 , just about every night of the week. Persistence pays. Enjoy the challenge!

[QUOTE=RomeoJoe;1813235]I was there in Jan. Going there in two weeks the quality has been down the hot ones make more in Manila.

And like some people said on here so many facebook DIA is paying these girls for love stories.

Trust me I'm early 30's look like I'm 20's and I was shocked from the change of attitudes and looks.

I go every year and don't get me wrong was never rejected but especially from the high end bars.

The performance was horrible (Dollhouse, Crystal Palace etc) stick to the smaller ones you will get better GFE.[/QUOTE]Angeles used to be hostess bar where you can pick any girl, bar fine her and she will give you good company and sex and leave in the morning. Tip was not anticipated and many girls were surprised if you give a tip.

Fast forward to now. Things has changed by variety of factors because of stricter prostituiton laws, bar fine term ban, cannot pressure the girl to go with anybody etc. So the girl can pick and choose who she goes out with. Most would be very happy just scamming you for money and not provide good service. However if the chemistry is there girl may provide GFE.

This is a pretty good summary. I think I would add "staying power". Or, the fourth A. AssOnTheGround, Some of you lucky dogs live there, some of you visit regularly. I visit at least once a year, and that alone has its advantages.

And for the guys who compare now and twenty years ago, have you ever considered that you are now twenty years older? "appearance".

Oh, and if you do Live in AC, is it possible you pissed off some of the gals / mamas? "attitude".

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1813361]If you are having trouble BF a decent girl in AC then it boils down to one or more of AAA.

Appearance.

Attitude.

Assets.

Appearance speaks and smells for itself.

Attitude is very important. If you treating them like sluts and wh*res then why would they want to be with you? Most AC bg are not here for long. Mostly fresh out of the province looking to feed their family or pay for life threatening medical bills.

Assets. If you are a cheap Charlie then forget it. You don't have to over pay but tipping does help. Then again there are some people that tipping won't even help.

Nothing hard about it.[/QUOTE]

- Last Saturday, the bars (the several I went to) was packed with girls. On Sunday, it wasn't as packed. On Monday, some of the bars (such as Atlantis, Crystal Palace, Lollipop) had way less girls than before. Atlantis still had a lot of girls, but it wasn't as packed as it is normally. Not sure if it is the normal Monday pattern, or Christmas reasons.

- The "models" (decent looking girls performing cheesy shows) I cited previously at the Crystal Palace rotates thru the Dollhouse bars.

- Q bar was too packed on Monday. Couldn't get a seat. It was advertising "girls from 6 bars, free finger foods". The major bar groups have special nights / afternoons with specials.

[QUOTE=XMan;1813454]And for the guys who compare now and twenty years ago, have you ever considered that you are now twenty years older? "appearance".[/QUOTE]Yes. The golden age of mongering in SE Asia is over.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;1813696]- Last Saturday, the bars (the several I went to) was packed with girls. On Sunday, it wasn't as packed. On Monday, some of the bars (such as Atlantis, Crystal Palace, Lollipop) had way less girls than before. Atlantis still had a lot of girls, but it wasn't as packed as it is normally. Not sure if it is the normal Monday pattern, or Christmas reasons. ..............[/QUOTE]Sunday, Monday, Tuesday are the time for the girls to have their one day off. Apparently Sunday is the most popular day off, and the top girls usually take that day off. From Wednesday, full selection of girls. I believe if a girl is absent on a Friday or Saturday night, she is heavily penalized. So, Friday and Sat for biggest roll up. Sunday, Monday, Tues for depleted stocks.

Even with depleted stocks, there's a lot of girls on offer. Maybe 20 girls or more to every one guy. Angeles still remains the Phils favorite Supermarket of Sex.

Sounds to me like there is a new breed of Pinay in AC. The young and spoiled have come of age now. I wasn't there 20 years ago but I do know that times change and we must adapt!

- Observed a funny incident couple of days ago at the Crystal Palace. This Black guy wanted this dancer to come down. She refused and ignored him. He got angry and stormed off. I thought to myself, is this another case of discrimination? I talked to the mamasan. It seems the guy barfined and did her cousin. LOL! Another reason for rejection: Don't do her cousin.

- I would wish some of you guys would stop buying the counterfeit Viagra and Cialis from those pesky salesmen. It gets tiring to be constantly bombarded as you walk around.

Hint: If you are in Cambodia, you can buy the same counterfeit Viagra / Cialis from the convenience stores. It was between $6-8 for a pack of 4. Even better is to buy the generic Zeagra or G-Force. They were around $4 something for a pack of 4. Isn't that cheaper than here at Angeles?

It seems the counterfeit Viagra is less potent than the real stuff. And the generic Zeagra / G-force might be a little more potent than the counterfeit Viagra. This seems logical, since the generic brand name's manufacturer might want to maintain quality control (It's still "counterfeit" since they don't have authorization from Pfizer to produce it). I don't think you can trust the "pure" counterfeiters to maintain quality control.

Day Two.

Spent the second day on Perimeter. Stopped into Pony Tails, Midnight something or another the two blow job bars around the corner from Garfield's, Drill Shak and Fire Pit. The girls were personable and friendly from the stage for the most part. Talked with a few and floated the possibility of bar fine and all that I talked with seemed open to the ideal of being barfined the girls in the blow job bars around the corner from Garfield's all tried to get me to take them upstairs for a blow job. Only problem was I found most of them to be in the 6 to 7 range and really was not interested in barfining any of them. Made my way back down to Raymond street where I found a tall thin long golden brown haired beauty who initially I placed as a 7 or 8 but once I got her back to the room and undressed I realized she was a real beauty and a solid 9. Said she was a former cultural dancer at Tropix but now for whatever reason is working in the short time bar on Raymond. Fell asleep around 6 pm after she left and then woke back up at 1 am. To late to go to any of the gogo bars as all the best talent would have been taken by then. So decided to avoid the gogos and just go to High Society. Walking street seemed to be a bit more lively than Sunday night a few freelancers out. But the place is still not the energy or vibe of what it used to be. Talked with a couple girls in High Society many seemed eager and willing to go but just wasn't finding anything stellar that I felt I had to have so decided to leave when I ran into a petite hot bodied girl on her way to High Society. Flirted and joked with her a bit and then popped the question about coming back with me and she was more than willing.

Day three.

When I woke up the girl who I thought was a solid nine who I met on Sunday but told me she was on men and couldn't go with me had text me the night before so I text her back and arranged to meet her in the afternoon. She showed up as promised and is the hottest girl I have seen here in AC so far so I told her I wanted to do long time which she agreed. She's here laying next to me now watching TV while I write this. Will just do long time with her today, says she does not want to go bar hopping, Just get something to eat and boom boom more later.

Thoughts so Far:

Have yet to go to any of the gogo bars on walking street but so far have found many women willing to bar fine and for the most part friendly and sociable. However, I have not found a great deal of beauties. Most women I have seen have been overwhelmingly in the 6 to 7 range in my opinion. Of course this is very subjective as one man's 7 is another man's 10. There is still action and fun to be had here in Angeles but it is not the vibe and excitement nor the number of people or the amount of super hotties that there used to be, many of the bars have changed names and many look like a cheap tin horn versions of what they once were. With Sunday nights men's girl contacting me and laying next to me now, I have been able to take any girl I wanted and have approached what I have thought were the hottest girls in the location I was in and all have been willing to go with me so far.

Chris.