Here we go again, detail in the Gogo forum.
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Here we go again, detail in the Gogo forum.
Yes. Or said more simply: never send money to chicas. They don't even get offended really when you answer "of course, sweetie, I'll be in DR soon and I'll be happy to help you then". I've had several girls let me access their facebook and they pretty much all ask for money to gringos, even non-streetwalkers. It's just kind of a national sport. Telemarketers don't get offended really when you hang up on them. They just dial in the next customer.
On another note, a sweet Cupid teen from Torre Alta that I managed to take back to my hotel in Playa Chikita left me a one page handwritten love letter while I was taking my shower this morning. In good spanish amazingly. Made me feel all emotional, even though I am as deep into mongering as most of you. Definitely a trophy worth keeping.
Still very, very fond of Sosua girls overall, in spite of their idiosyncracies.
Sammy.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1466627]Ya'll recall my recent trip report when I met one of my Dom Cupid contacts? Our meeting lead up to her propositioning me to pay her for a massage, which eventually lead to her wanting a p4p arrangement for more money. Since I've been home weve been communicating via Whatsapp messenger. The woman has been dropping land mine hints of her financial problems. Tuition problems, food in the house problems, no job problems. You name it, she had a problem she needed to tell me about.
I can tell I wasnt dealing with no dummy although she was very transparent with her intent. Recently she had mentioned that she may have to sell her earrings and possibly her cell phone in order to get enough money to pay her tuition bill. I read it but didn't comment much on it, except to acknowledge the message. When I didn't say much she asked me how come I stopped talking to her. I told her I had left my phone to do something, but now I am back. That day passed.
Next day after our brief greeting, she asks."can I ask you a question?". I say "sure". She reminds me of her mentioning to me before about selling her cell phone to get money. I said, yes I remember. Then she gives me the direct hit. No beating around the Bush, and no hints.
"Can you lend me some money please?" After I give her my policy, that I do not send money, she pleaded with me. I told her, that if I was with her there, things would be different. For one, I would take her to the store and buy her food. And I would do that even though I am not her boyfriend.
After that a little more pleading. Then I had to get a little deeper. I told her I have my own responsibilities here, and I do not have anyone to help me or to complain to. I can't be responsible for helping every woman in the DR just because we met. Then I told her."you are also still on dominican cupid looking for men to support you" "If I give you money, you are only going to take that money, use it, and look for more money from another guy on cupid" "And what do I get out of it, nothing?" "you will go on to the next man and do the same thing to him" "You asked me to loan you money. But how are you going to pay me back, with no job and no means of getting money?" "there is no guarantee that you will pay me back in the bed, once I come back to the DR, especially if you find a new boyfriend"
End result? Crickets coming from her end of whatsapp. LOL Of course I could care less. I wouldn't have said jack to her, as long as she didn't come right out and ask me for money. But once she did, she had to be told the deal.
What makes this situation interesting, is that I already sampled the juice. And paid for my time when I was with her last month. More often than not, chicas haven't even met the dude they are talking to online, and they start overloading a guy with their problems and sob stories, and then proceed to guilt trip a dude for cash, gifts or favors. But in this instance, having sampled the juice, and paid only after services were rendered, I was somewhat ahead of the game. There was another Santiago chica, I never mentioned. But everyday last month she was blowing up my phone, because she wanted me to send money to her Banco Popular account so she could "take the bus to Sosua to meet me". Yeah sure. That would have been money wasted. Especially since I didn't know what or who I was really sending money to.
The reason why I am reporting this situation is because guys should be reinforced on how good some of these chicas are when it comes to acting sincere and into a dude, when in reality they could care less about you. Their main focus is to get whatever they can get from as many men as possible, by any means necessary. Quite different than a monger who is quite willing to pay whats agreed upon between him and a chica.[/QUOTE]
Just go!
Book New garden hotel.
It's a half block walk to the action.
You will still have the time of your life. I'm sure of that!
Take the advice of this board. And have fun!
It is Sept 2, and I'm is Sosua right now. My first time here during the off season. Lots of girls are available, but it is hot as a mother fucker. I am staying at Casa Cayana and the beach down the street is empty. I tried walking in the sand and lasted about 2 minutes. I was certain the policia were going to find my sun burnt corpse a few feet from the stairs leading out of the beach the next day.
This time areound I purched a data plan for my smart phone. It was about 500 pesos for 250 MBS (about a weeks worth). So far a wise investment as I can use google translate for those times when my modest Spanish fails me.
Casa Cayana is nice. Perfect location and good internet signal. Staff is friendly and food is good. Rooms like all other hotels, are a little run down but that appears to be the norm for Sosua. The girls I have talked to seem to like it because of the pool. I wouldn't hesitate to recomend it despite the shitstorm about a $1000 pesos going missing earlier in this forum.
I am curious about the future of Sosua if the "Anti Open Air Bar" policy is legit. That will certainly spell the demise of all the bars on Pedro Clisante.
Simon
[QUOTE=Simon Says;1467733]This time areound I purched a data plan for my smart phone. It was about 500 pesos for 250 MBS (about a weeks worth). So far a wise investment as I can use google translate for those times when my modest Spanish fails me.[/QUOTE]can't seem to depend on strong wifi being available when you need it (like the beach or a restaurant ). Also, very frustrating supposedly having wifi at your hotel, but the signal is only available if you move to a certain room? Which company did you purchase your data plan from? I need to get a plan but I have Orange. Did you have to produce a passport or some other I D?
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1467928]can't seem to depend on strong wifi being available when you need it (like the beach or a restaurant ). Also, very frustrating supposedly having wifi at your hotel, but the signal is only available if you move to a certain room? Which company did you purchase your data plan from? I need to get a plan but I have Orange. Did you have to produce a passport or some other I D?[/QUOTE]The apartment where I live has excellent wi-fi via Claro, but even so the actual Internet signal constantly comes and then drops for short periods. This seems to be the nature of the beast in the DR. My observation is that Orange and Claro seem to drop the signal at the same time, so it may be that they share infrastructure.
Signal is usually constant in Internet cafes, but not in cafes that have Internet, if you understand the difference.
You can buy dongles from Orange, Claro, or Viva. Yes, you need a passport. From Orange you can get 3 gigabytes for 320 pesos for a week on a prepaid plan, once you have paid for the dongle and SIM that comes with it. The others have similar charges, though Viva may offer the best value for visitors.
The dongles will work anywhere, beach, etc, but are still subject to intermittent dropping of signal. However for the most part the service is fairly good. I use the Internet for trading stocks and have never lost money by being caught unable to close a position due to Internet failure, though I do have some contingency plans in place.
So don't blame the hotel. It may not always be their fault.
[QUOTE=Frannie; 1467932]Signal is usually constant in Internet cafes, but not in cafes that have Internet, if you understand the difference.
You can buy dongles from Orange, Claro, or Viva. Yes, you need a passport. From Orange you can get 3 gigabytes for 320 pesos for a week on a prepaid plan, once you have paid for the dongle and SIM that comes with it. The others have similar charges, though Viva may offer the best value for visitors.
The dongles will work anywhere, beach, etc, but are still subject to intermittent dropping of signal. However for the most part the service is fairly good.
So don't blame the hotel. It may not always be their fault.[/QUOTE]Yes I'm quite familiar with the difference with Internet cafes / cafes that have internet. LOL.
The next part, that is useful information. I doubt a prepaid plan with Orange would suit me. I'm not in the DR year round. But your tip of Viva is worth looking into. Nice to know the services with dongles are fairly good.
Now, about me not blaming the hotel, it may not be their fault. How about I blame them when I know it is there fault? For instance. Having strong wifi only in the living room or on the patio of ones unit, but not in the bedroom, that is not a company dropping their signal problem. I stayed at Don Antonio way back in April. Found out the wifi was stronger on a certain side of the building, and weaker on the other. Still yet, the best signal was when you were outside of your room on the balcony. Once you went inside, the wifi was very poor. IMO those instances has more to do with the type of equipment the establishment has setup and the placement of that equipment. As well as the problem may be the hotel has not taken on the expense of having more routers and / or extenders installed for trouble areas. In Sosua Suites, Rick had routers in certain units, and that router was supposed to cover several units close by. That usually was not adequate coverage for all to use. And if that router went down, someone had to get inside of that unit to reset it. Under those circumstances, I feel the hotel is responsible, not any of those companies.
Now before you give me a lecture on how much it may cost a hotel to update or install more equipment. (I can almost guess that response would come next ). That won't be necessary. I understand all of that. I'm just reporting what I have experienced and how I feel about it. So now, part of my strategy when I choose a place to stay is to learn quickly what unit is the best location for strong wifi signal. Viva's data plan / service may be just what will work for me. So thank you for that tip. I will look into it next month.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1467996]Yes I'm quite familiar with the difference with Internet cafes / cafes that have internet. LOL.
The next part, that is useful information. I doubt a prepaid plan with Orange would suit me. I'm not in the DR year round. But your tip of Viva is worth looking into. Nice to know the services with dongles are fairly good.
Now, about me not blaming the hotel, it may not be their fault. How about I blame them when I know it is there fault? For instance. Having strong wifi only in the living room or on the patio of ones unit, but not in the bedroom, that is not a company dropping their signal problem. I stayed at Don Antonio way back in April. Found out the wifi was stronger on a certain side of the building, and weaker on the other. Still yet, the best signal was when you were outside of your room on the balcony. Once you went inside, the wifi was very poor. IMO those instances has more to do with the type of equipment the establishment has setup and the placement of that equipment. As well as the problem may be the hotel has not taken on the expense of having more routers and / or extenders installed for trouble areas. In Sosua Suites, Rick had routers in certain units, and that router was supposed to cover several units close by. That usually was not adequate coverage for all to use. And if that router went down, someone had to get inside of that unit to reset it. Under those circumstances, I feel the hotel is responsible, not any of those companies.
Now before you give me a lecture on how much it may cost a hotel to update or install more equipment. (I can almost guess that response would come next ). That won't be necessary. I understand all of that. I'm just reporting what I have experienced and how I feel about it. So now, part of my strategy when I choose a place to stay is to learn quickly what unit is the best location for strong wifi signal. Viva's data plan / service may be just what will work for me. So thank you for that tip. I will look into it next month.[/QUOTE]Don't take everything so personally. Lots of other people read this, not just you. People often comment on poor wi-fi in Sosua and they may not know that no matter how good the hotel's wi-fi setup, the signal will probably still be intermittent. Where I live the wi-fi is excellent with a strong signal in my lounge, kitchen, and on the patio 24/7, but doesn't work in the bedrooms or bathroom, though I can get a weak, but usable signal from another apartment complex across the road.
It is the same with hotels in the USA. It is best to ask which rooms have best wi-fi at the time of checking in or you may end up in one with a poor or nonexistent signal.
[QUOTE=Simon Says;1467733]I am curious about the future of Sosua if the "Anti Open Air Bar" policy is legit. That will certainly spell the demise of all the bars on Pedro Clisante.[/QUOTE]I would not be too concern about the new policy. Sosua seems to go up and down that way. The girls will still come, maybe not as many, but enough to choose from. My understanding is that some mongers cancelled their trips because of the closure of Passions; just what I heard.
[QUOTE=Frannie; 1468011]Don't take everything so personally. Lots of other people read this, not just you. People often comment on poor wi-fi in Sosua and they may not know that no matter how good the hotel's wi-fi setup, the signal will probably still be intermittent. Where I live the wi-fi is excellent with a strong signal in my lounge, kitchen, and on the patio 24/7, but doesn't work in the bedrooms or bathroom, though I can get a weak, but usable signal from another apartment complex across the road.
It is the same with hotels in the USA. It is best to ask which rooms have best wi-fi at the time of checking in or you may end up in one with a poor or nonexistent signal.[/QUOTE]Hey Frannie there is no such thing as everything. You responded to me and I responded to you. Since you didn't designate you were talking to anybody else for any particular point and nobody else was talking about wifi as I indicated, as far as I was concerned your comments were addressed to me. So I gave a response that reflected that. Now I'm relatively certain that if somebody reads my response, they might know exactly what I was talking about and probably will nod or get a chuckle. And for the record, like you what I said wasnt just for you, that was for others that read this forum too. BTW, I don't think there is anythjing wrong with taking or giving personally. As long as there is no negativity behind it. Which in your case there wasnt. But thank you for the extra perspective on the wifi.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1468050]My understanding is that some mongers cancelled their trips because of the closure of Passions.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't call weak sisters like that "mongers".
Day 6:
While on my way to the beach, I called Herman and asked how many girls were around because I was stopping at Big Ds for some BBQ and did not want to eat alone. So I ordered a whole chicken, some ribs, and fries of course. Herman said the girls had a surprise for me and I thought he was talking about Thick & Thin; not the case. There were a couple of women hanging out that I knew from last outings. I asked Herman about the surprise and he told me to be patient. It turned out that my favorite Haitian Happy Hour duo just rolled into town; I was surprised and happy when I saw them. I was not in any mood for a Happy Hour, so I took my favorite of the two girls back to the hotel for pool and rack operations.
After another good meal at Costera, and another hour long visit at CMP, it was back to Rumba again. One day at the beach, I noticed a light skinned girl (SD Girl) , but did not have a chance to talk to her. She was in Rumba and I snatched her over and we had the best time getting acquainted. We drank and chatted for about 2 hours. She was hungry, so I sent Juan across the street to score some grub for her and him. Later we went to the hotel for pool and rack operations. I really liked that girl; way more that I should have!
Afterwards, I knew she was in town to work. So I told her I wanted to go to After One, and she could go with me and I would pay her cover charge. Once inside, she went to work and I went to play. I started talking to this girl that got my attention the night before. We did some shots that Miguel whipped up and that was enough for her. Guess what's next? Indeed, we went to the hotel for pool and rack operations.
Day 7:
The perfect day! It started out at the beach. Herman cooked up some awesome steaks and my new favorite girl, SD Girl, was in route. She showed up with no swim wear; not a problem. I brought her over to my favorite merchant and within minutes, she was wearing a sexy bikini. It was Sunday, and the pussy parade was in full force; lots of eye candy. Spent some quality time with SD Girl in the ocean, then later in the pool and room. It is always hard to leave the beach on the last day; way too many goodbyes to say, many hugs and kisses, and many happy thoughts on what happened during the week.
I have a tradition that will live on in my life. Each trip, I always have dinner with Little Dancer at our favorite restaurant, Moura Mai. She always dresses to the tee and the place makes her feel very special. It is time and money well spent each and every trip. Rick, now manages Rumba, had a spicy menu of his own there. Some of his dishes are included in the new menu. The spicy pumpkin soup and the blacken chicken are outstanding! I ended the night in Rumba, and with the non translating Haitian coming to the room and she tried squeezing the last bit of leche from me; she tried like hell, but it was not going to happen!
A few other observations:
Universo, the new place on the corner, was dead the entire trip.
Cucu, a new place across of Ollie's. Nice, but dead, more dead than Universo.
The manicure places are open in town and on the beach.
Not sure if this was possible:
While returning home, everyone boards the plane. Turns out there was a problem with one of the engines so we had to deboard the plane and wait until the problem was solved. During the second boarding process, I run smack-dab into Chris Long. We were both in Sosua for at least 4-5 nights, yet we did not cross paths whatever. As small as Sosua is, it seemed impossible not to run into each other. I guess we were both preoccupied with chicas; that must have been the explanation!
Final thoughts:
This was my 11th trip in less than 4 years and I watched this place with its ups and downs. Some places are closed while enough places are still open to provide a good assortment of chicas. This place still is one of the best values in the world, and also, if you make connections, it is a great place to come back to on a regular basis. I love the women and they seem to love my pesos, so it all kind of works out!
[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1468123]Final thoughts:
This was my 11th trip in less than 4 years and I watched this place with its ups and downs. Some places are closed while enough places are still open to provide a good assortment of chicas. This place still is one of the best values in the world, and also, if you make connections, it is a great place to come back to on a regular basis. I love the women and they seem to love my pesos, so it all kind of works out![/QUOTE]Nice report. And that ass in the pics is incredible. Hard to believe you only did 11 trips in 4 years to Sosua. From reading prior trip reports, it seems like you have been going a lot longer. This coming Oct will only be 2 yrs going to Sosua, and I probably have about 12 or more trips under my belt. (A while back I under estimated how many trips I did ). Although I don't think I've had as much variety as you've had. Nor have I mongered in other countries. But that will change soon.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1468050]I would not be too concern about the new policy. Sosua seems to go up and down that way. The girls will still come, maybe not as many, but enough to choose from. My understanding is that some mongers cancelled their trips because of the closure of Passions; just what I heard.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1468102]I wouldn't call weak sisters like that "mongers".[/QUOTE]Agreed. Sosua could be in the midst of a nuclear war and I know quite a few mongers that would still go.
Passions has never been my cup of tea. I can pickup girls in the clubs just as nice at half the Passions price. Some guys like the crutch of BB, FOD and passions. I understand if you can not speak any Spanish and are not confident it makes sense to stay in the casas. When you are paying the house it is always more expensive. The other thing is these caaa girls are very hard core. They are fucking every day if possible. I have meant many girls on the street in Sosua who were fresh of the bus.
[QUOTE=Drai;1468181]Agreed. Sosua could be in the midst of a nuclear war and I know quite a few mongers that would still go.[/QUOTE]