Angeles City

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1815350]The beer arrived right before she walked. I grabbed it and said thanks, how much. Then I told my buddies lets go next door and I enjoyed the beer[/QUOTE]I like your style. More customers should stand up for their rights.

But usually, I'm a passive putz. I would have left and gotten pissed off.

I normally try not to make a scene, because if I come back to that bar, I don't want any girl to give me the evil eye. I prefer the "stupid moron" look rather than the "evil eye" look. LOL!

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1815349]It's a good thing I didn't know the sky had already fallen. Just reviewing my notes, 11 different girls in 16 days! Would have been 14 girls if 3 weren't on their menstration.

No scams.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your input and views dg8787.

I think you will find that most guys on this forum including me are not disputing the fact that there is certain types of girls that are good to go with no scams.

What we are saying though is that anything remotely attractive, slim, younger, no baby etc are mostly not good to go with any one, they have many other choices in life, many other ways to earn pisos in the bar if their looks, body allow them to without fucking anyone.

Here's an example, I find it almost impossible to even find the type of girls I am attracted to in angeles gogo bars, when I do spot those few girls unfortunately everyone else want to buy them many drinks,throw money at them and treat them like a princess in the bar, once she has got away with this a few times it becomes normal to her to earn money without the need to fuck for money,

One friend I often bar hop with has no problems finding a girl to not only leave with him every night but to stay long time too, we have totally different taste in women, for him as long as a girl has a pulse she is miss world, I on the other hand would not fuck his girls for free.

As we keep saying, depends on the type of girls a punter likes as to how easy getting laid in angeles is going to be IMHO.

Just finished another visit in AC. Some bars I liked on Fields this time: Bunny Ranch, Shooters, Lollipop, After Dark. On Perimeter: Night Moves, Magic City, Lost In Asa.

There are some complaints on this board on AC about poor line-ups, runners, rejections. While I do recognise some of this I will still recommend a visit here. Just don't go out on Sundays, half the girls have that day off (often the most attractive ones). Also you should avoid the Christmas period. The last good day was December 12th. It doesn't improve again until mid-January or so. They take long vacations in this country! This means fewers girls in the bars. And more beggars on the street, everywhere in the PI they now sing Christmas carols with an outstreched hand.

AC bars has never been point-and-pick style. Better to go to Manila or Thailand for that. But this city has some interesting pecularities. I too liked the old AC better, but that's some years ago now, already in 2013 the situation was like now, no changes since then.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1815371]Thanks for your input and views dg8787.

I think you will find that most guys on this forum including me are not disputing the fact that there is certain types of girls that are good to go with no scams.

What we are saying though is that anything remotely attractive, slim, younger, no baby etc are mostly not good to go with any one, they have many other choices in life, many other ways to earn pisos in the bar if their looks, body allow them to without fucking anyone.

Here's an example, I find it almost impossible to even find the type of girls I am attracted to in angeles gogo bars, when I do spot those few girls unfortunately everyone else want to buy them many drinks,throw money at them and treat them like a princess in the bar, once she has got away with this a few times it becomes normal to her to earn money without the need to fuck for money,

One friend I often bar hop with has no problems finding a girl to not only leave with him every night but to stay long time too, we have totally different taste in women, for him as long as a girl has a pulse she is miss world, I on the other hand would not fuck his girls for free.

As we keep saying, depends on the type of girls a punter likes as to how easy getting laid in angeles is going to be IMHO.[/QUOTE]Let me assure you that most of the girls I saw were 8+. A few were 7. 5. 2 on menstration were 8. 5. 2 of the 8. 5 worked in bars but do not BF unless they know you after a while. One of these girls met me in Manila on the evening of my flight home. She had been in Manila on her day off and came to my hotel around 9:30 pm, stayed all night with me and then took the bus back to AC in the morning. I gave her 4. 5 k which included transportation. During the typhoon her taxi from QC to my Pasay hotel costed P750 and 3 hours of driving. I wanted to leave on a memorable night, which I certainly did. SOP for my last night is to repeat with a good performer.

In 2 different cities I visited, I looked up former AC bg's who didn't last more than one week in AC. Each one in different city brought a new 19 yo civie to me. Both 19 yo were like 8. 5+. Spent a night with each one and put 3 k in each one's purse without them asking.

Yes, the sky has fallen, in my earlier days,

A cup of coffee was 10 cents.

Loaf of bread was 5 for $1. 00.

Gasoline was 23 cents a gallon.

Cizgarettes was 25 cents a pack.

Hot meal in a diner was $1. 10.

I made minimum wage of 90 cents an hour.

20 some years ago I had the most beautiful Vietnamese and Korean MP girls in California for a very reasonable rate. Then Black Thursday came. Over night it was all over.

10 years ago I had the most beautiful Korean MP girls in Texas for a very reasonable rate. Then the Feds raided places and it was all over with.

Doesn't matter what it used to be. What matters is what you make of it today. AC girls are beautiful and much more loving. For better or worse they do not have the finishing touches like manicures, lips and eye brow waxing, shaving and etc. But of course you can give them a full make over and build your own beauty.

Problem is most punters think they can come into the bar and throw some pesos down on the table and say come fuck me now. Those days are gone like my 5 loaves of bread for a $1. 00.

[QUOTE=JohnTraveller;1815451] cut ....
AC bars has never been point-and-pick style. Better to go to Manila or Thailand for that. But this city has some interesting pecularities. I too liked the old AC better, but that's some years ago now, already in 2013 the situation was like now, no changes since then.[/QUOTE]Bullshit (and no offense to you JT). I know guys who were working at Clark Air Base back in 1987-1991 and it was point and shoot. I have seen pictures and heard many stories to go along with it. Photos of girls twisting off beer caps with their pussies and others dropping a whole roll of quarters out of their snatch. Those guys were living it up and there were more girls than you can shake a stick at. Heck, they could go out any night, drive 15 minutes down the street and get laid for next to nothing. I don't know how much it cost back then. But think about this, 2 years ago I grabbed a few girls from high society for 1000 pesos ($22 USD). So 25 years ago, they were probably only paying 300 to 500 pesos or 5 - 10 USD. That's nothing. And I bet there was none of that by me a drink shit without going for session either.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1815371]...Here's an example, I find it almost impossible to even find the type of girls I am attracted to in angeles gogo bars, when I do spot those few girls unfortunately everyone else want to buy them many drinks,throw money at them and treat them like a princess in the bar, once she has got away with this a few times it becomes normal to her to earn money without the need to fuck for money.[/QUOTE]How true! I noticed the same thing elsewhere as well. Everyone likes those eye candy babes, and they prefer certain Asian customers. Indeed, it's becoming tougher and tougher to get one of those girls to go with you, unless you get lucky.

Yes, there are girls who won't go out.

Yes, some girls will tell you they are surfing the crimson wave and maybe they are.

No point getting upset or guessing if she is telling the truth, your beer was not expensive, move on.

Walk into any bar and you will see the girls outnumber the punters massively.

My problem, is not getting rejected (which I don't mind), but taking girls home who were knowingly on their mens.

Just not fond of blood on the sheets and sex in the shower is a tad less comfortable than the bed IMO.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1815479]Bullshit (and no offense to you JT). I know guys who were working at Clark Air Base back in 1987-1991 and it was point and shoot. I have seen pictures and heard many stories to go along with it. Photos of girls twisting off beer caps with their pussies and others dropping a whole roll of quarters out of their snatch. Those guys were living it up and there were more girls than you can shake a stick at. Heck, they could go out any night, drive 15 minutes down the street and get laid for next to nothing. I don't know how much it cost back then. But think about this, 2 years ago I grabbed a few girls from high society for 1000 pesos ($22 USD). So 25 years ago, they were probably only paying 300 to 500 pesos or 5 - 10 USD. That's nothing. And I bet there was none of that by me a drink shit without going for session either.[/QUOTE]Well that was back in the 90's. It was all supply and demand. The Mongering Population was very small back then. So these girls did not know there true value. Fastfoward into 2016 with the internet now and more mongers willing to throw money at them, these girls don't feel they have to work as hard anymore. Remember the average bar fine is about anywhere from 1500-3000 and they only get half of that, they have to split it with the bar owners. So they only get about anywhere from 700-1500 pesos and I have to have sex with guys I barley know and just met 30 minutes ago. When I can find me a few whales a night that need attention by buying a lot of lady drinks, throwing money and ringing bells and I don't have to feel used or a smut.

Day Seven.

Cloudy rainy dressing day. It's Saturday and Score Birds has their weekly pool party bikini contest, used to have them biweekly but now they have one every Saturday, 500 p to enter you get an all you can eat buffet and three drinks plus watch the contest. Not sure if it's because of the time of year the rainy weather or what but the contest is a shadow of its former self, maybe a quarter of the number of girls and guest that used to be there in the past. The vibe is even somewhat disappointing from the excitement that it used to be. I settle in and start up a conversation with the Aussie sitting next to me, he lives in Subic now but comes to Angeles every weekend. As I sit there I cast my eyes on the hottest little contested, Lhexi contestant number two from Crystal Palace. She comes by with the other girls and the Aussie sitting next to me knows her says he's bought her a drink before and talked with her but has never bar fined her. She stops and talks with him a bit but does not really notice or say anything to me. I'm completely in awe of this girl she is a perfect 10 in my eyes. A new feature in the contest is at one point the announcer will bring every girl out on stage individually and introduce them ask, them a stupid question like what is your favorite color and then ask the audience who would like to buy this girl a drink raise your hand. He brings the first contestant out ask her a stupid question then ask who would like to buy this girl a drink going once going twice going a third time. No one raises their hand for the first girl. Then he brings Lhexi out, she is contestant number two, ask her some stupid question she responds then he ask who would like to buy this girl a drink. I expect to see a sea of hand go up as this girl is without a doubt the hottest girl in the contest. No one raises their hands I want to but I am to shy and nervous to do so. I tell the Aussie this and he tells me to go ahead and do it you have nothing to lose. The announcer says going once going twice and I raise my hand and the announcer says sold to the man in the yellow Brazilian soccer shirt, me. I'm nervous as Lhexi comes over I really want her and I am worried she may not bar fine with me. As she comes over I stand up and introduce myself I am noticeably shaking and nervous. I am in complete awe of this girl and have this I'm not worthy I'm not worthy feeling. We sit down make some small talk I order her a ladies drink. She's 18 no babies from Mindanao has been working a total of three months at Crystal Palace Started in June of this year worked for a couple months but then took a few months off and came back in November. She's sociable cuddly and easy to talk to. Inside I'm still nervous and thinking to myself don't say the wrong thing don't do anything stupid. We make small talk she tells me about herself I tell her about myself, then she ask where I am staying, this is usually a good sign and an indication in my opinion that she is open to going with me. I tell her and ask her if she would like to go with me. She says sure if you want, but says she can only do short time tonight because she is moving to another apartment in the morning and says if I want I can come back and get her on Sunday and she can do long time then. But I am too much in awe of this girl and don't want to lose this opportunity so I tell her its OK short time. How long can you stay, she says well see. I ask if we can go now but she is not sure if she can leave the contest and says we can go over to Crystal Palace after the contest and pay the bar fine then. She sits with me talking caressing leaves to do the contest comes back sits with me some more then leave to do the contest then comes back again until the contest is over. We walk over to Crystal Palace its pouring down rain, good thing I brought my umbrella. I pay the bar fine and we go over to my place, Lhexi is without a doubt the hottest foxiest girl in Angeles City on a scale of 1 to 10 she is an 11. Back in the room I am still very nervous and in awe of this girl I hesitantly begin to caress her and then kiss her, she's very passionate and the kissing becomes intensified and feverish, I slide my hands inside of her pants and begin to feel the warmth and moistness of her crevices, We begin to take each other's cloths off and fall into the bed where the sex is unbelievable good, passionate and feverish. I can't believe I am making love to this 18 year old supper model goddess, but I am. Afterwards she cuddles and caresses in my arms. I ask her if she would like to go bar hopping if she is hungry if she would like to eat, I tell her we can do whatever she wants to do. She wants to order food and have it delivered here so we eat in the room talk some more have sex again and then she falls asleep in my arms. As I have this 18 year old super model goddess that I was in total awe of sleeping in my arms like a little kitten I'm thinking to myself, I'm so glad I raised my hand today at the pool party.

Thoughts at the end of the day:

Lhexi ended up staying until the early morning and having sex with me again before she left. Did not do any bar hoping or check out the scene at all on Walking Street so don't know what the Saturday night was like. Spent the whole day with Lhexi.

The GFE in the Philippines and Angeles City in particular is the best in the world, no other monger location that I have been to has the quality of GFE that the Philippines and Angeles does. I am still not completely sold but after today's experience. I may spend the four months of freedom and the additional ten days in March I get each year in Angeles City in the coming year.

Chris

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1815479]But think about this, 2 years ago I grabbed a few girls from high society for 1000 pesos ($22 USD). So 25 years ago, they were probably only paying 300 to 500 pesos or 5 - 10 USD. [/QUOTE]If memory serves me right the Angeles barfine in '92 was p500 - this was after the Yanks left. Having only known the Thai barfine system I thought p500 was a bit rich (barfine there was b200-300), but then I learnt it was all inclusive unlike Thailand's. The peso was pegged to the US dollar then at 25:1 - peg was dropped during the Asian economic crisis of '97 - '98 - so that's $20 and it was LT. I don't remember the price for Santos St blow row back then but it was less than a bar fine.

[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1815667]Day Seven. ...
As I have this 18 year old super model goddess that I was in total awe of sleeping in my arms ...
Chris[/QUOTE]Lucky #7.

When is the wedding? LOL.

Chris,

Very detailed and informative. Last time I was in Angeles I avoided the pool party, but your report convinces me to buy drinks for couple of hotties. I like the happy experience you have had and I hope to repeat some of that.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;1814163]If you go to Atlantis at midnight, you will notice that most of the cute, popular girls are gone. If you are there earlier, you will notice that the cute, popular girls are leaving with mostly East Asians; not all, but the majority of the customers are East Asian. Yes, some, depending on their mood, will just do drinks for the night.

I don't normally barfine those cute, popular girls at Atlantis. Most don't like to perform BJ for a long time, won't do 3-somes, won't do CIM. And most will only do short time.

Note: Atlantis is a unique case. It's the largest mega-bar in AC. It is very popular with the Koreans. Girls are in tuned with what that brings. There is a lot of business and a lot of girls at that bar.

Other bars have decent lookers also, just not all congregated in one place. You have to look and explore to get the cute ones. I see a lot of White guys with cute girls in Angeles.[/QUOTE]I never go into Atlantis looking for a pick up. I take barhops there from time to time But I treat it like a strip joint here in the US. Go in without expectations of a take out.

[QUOTE=JohnTraveller;1815451]Just finished another visit in AC. Some bars I liked on Fields this time: Bunny Ranch, Shooters, Lollipop, After Dark. On Perimeter: Night Moves, Magic City, Lost In Asa.

There are some complaints on this board on AC about poor line-ups, runners, rejections. While I do recognise some of this I will still recommend a visit here. Just don't go out on Sundays, half the girls have that day off (often the most attractive ones). Also you should avoid the Christmas period. The last good day was December 12th. It doesn't improve again until mid-January or so. They take long vacations in this country! This means fewers girls in the bars. And more beggars on the street, everywhere in the PI they now sing Christmas carols with an outstreched hand.

AC bars has never been point-and-pick style. Better to go to Manila or Thailand for that. But this city has some interesting pecularities. I too liked the old AC better, but that's some years ago now, already in 2013 the situation was like now, no changes since then.[/QUOTE]I would not say AC has never been a point and pick. Back in 1988 my first time in AC I walked into a bar called Maverick City. Grabbed a girl from the stage plopped down the BF and left the bar in about 30 seconds. 10 minutes later I was balls deep in her at my hotel.

Hi guys,

I am going to AC middle of January and will be there approx 2 weeks (Then going to Thailand).

Do you guys know how it works if I meet a girl in a bar and would like to stay several days with her.

Do I have to pay BF to the bar for the days I spend with the girl and she is not working, or can I just pay it to the girl?

What do you guys think is a respectful tip to the girl?