Sosua Reports

dude, thanks for the laughs! i think with the amount of laughing i did, reading your post, my trip to hell may be on an ez pass lane.

what added to the comic relief, was that while i was in sosua, back in july of last year, one of my boys spent a night with "click clack". we had no idea she was a mute until the next morning when we saw him trying to "shoo" her off, as we approached them. when we saw the sign language, that was the beginning of the end for him. we tormented him for the remainder of his trip, as friends should. we would often remind him."you came to sosua and fucked probably the only handicapped chick in the neighborhood! no bueno!". although none of us knew what the hell we were doing, we all jokingly communicated with him in sign language and clickity clacks, for the rest of the day. just to fuck with him. (i know, i know, hell for me. ez pass lane remember?).

but just when we thought things couldn't get any funnier, she came back to our hotel (looking for him) the next morning, with her sister (so she says) , who just so happens to be a clickity clack too! yes a mute! holy shit. 2 of them? seeing the look of horror on my boy's face, was well worth me peeing on myself a little bit, from laughing so hard. for the next 4 days, although being repeatedly rejected, the two sisters hounded him, apparently wanting a "menage a click clack".

[quote=sovereign; 1237216]ok. i had to share this story out of order for my trip. this is for night #5:

january 13, 2012.

ok, this friday the thirteenth shit is real! the day started innocently enough. i knew that i had to get noemi out of the house so that i would have time to pick up my brother from pop airport, but she was seriously into sleep mode and looked like she was molecularly bonded to my comforter and mattress. i let her lounge for a bit, confident that i could have her out and about by 1:30 pm to give me plenty of time to drop her off wherever i needed to and get to the airport. i finally shook her awake at 1:35 and she smiles up at me and enquires "podemos tener sexo mi amor?" dammit! women and their timing. there was absolutely no time to get us both in and out of the shower and have the boxspring rocking. after quickly dismissing the idea of doing it in the shower, i firmly told her no and she frowned before shrugging it off and hopping that beautiful ass into the shower.

that should have been all of the hint that i needed that the day was going to be an odd one, but it wasn't. her and i showered together and i was able to drop her off at her sisters house who happened to live near the airport (a lucky break for me). i boogied to the airport just in time to get my brother coming out of the terminal, so all seemed good. i dropped him off at the villa that we were renting then, after he got settled, we went on the usual dr activities runs (shopping for rum, a run to the phone store, hitting the bank, etc). we then killed some time at passions and cmp before heading to classicos around 11.

now the club was packed and the place was live! chicas everywhere, mongers everywher, it was bananas! my brother and i went upstairs and spent a couple of hours scouring the place for the 'perfect one. ' he found his pretty early, a brown skinned dominicana with an incredible ass. my search took a little longer, until at 12:30 i spotted her. (with absolutely no idea of what was to come).

she was petite with nice size tits, a slim waist and a plump little ass (just the way that i like them). it also didn't hurt that she had her own hair flowing to the middle of her back and a very pretty face. she wasn't a 10, but was a strong 8 bordering on 8. 5 when she smiled. i licked my lips in anticipation as i approached her standing by herself at the bar. i had noticed a couple of other guys trying to talk to her earlier and didn't think to ponder on why they all had walked away with a perplexed look on their faces. i should have.

i walked up to her and said 'hola, como estas? ' and she smiled beautifully before turning around and grinding that firm ass on me. i thought to myself, 'hell yeah! ' and reached around for a handful of breast and met no resistence from her. we bumped and grinded for nearly half an hour, all the while me hard as hell and her getting freakier with each passing song. my brother turned to me and asked if she was the one for the night and i replied 'absolutely! ' i turned to ask her if she wanted to go home with me and she replied to me in sign language! she was mute.

now i'm like, what the fuck am i going to do. clearly this broad can hear, but am i really trying to fuck someone handicapped? am i that far gone as a monger? do i really want to go to that special hell? then my eyes fell on her body and the answer to all of those questions was an obvious yes. so i repeated my question and this time she just nodded. i asked her if she wanted to stay the night, and she nodded again. cool, or so i thought.

so we get into the car, her in the front passenger seat with me, and my brother and his new friend in the back seat. as i'm driving, i hear this odd clicking and chirping noise coming from my right and turn to see my date signing and making these wierd ass little noises! i ask her if she's ok, and she replies in sign language and those wierd alien like noises that aren't really words at all. my brother is in the back seat laughing his ass off.

so now i have a bigger dilemma. i have a mute and mentally impaired woman sitting besides me with a killer body, a beautiful face, and a desire to get fucked for money. i am absolutely confident that a special hell awaits me if i do it, but we are already almost at the villa and i have absolutely no idea how i would break it to her. i'm feeling stuck, damn friday the 13th!

i finally man up and decide to go for it, what's the worse that can happen. bad question.

i get her to my room, trying not to notice how hard my brother is trying not to laugh. i lead my hand gesturing and mouth clicking / beeping date to the bed and suddenly she is all over me. regardless of any issues with her vocal chords or parts of her brain, the rest of her anatomy clearly worked! before long she and i were both naked and going at it heavily. the wierd noises seemed appropriate then, but the hand signing was still a little unsettling as she rode me. i had to hit her doggy style to get that shit to stop. i will give her credit, her body was exceptional and she really knew how to use it. and talk about tight pussy.

anyway, so after we're done, we're laying in the bed trying to have a conversation. now i speak a fair amount of spanish and usually have absolutely no broblem engaging dominican women in after sex talks. i was totally unprepared for a situation where i couldn't understand a fucking thing that she was saying! as she lay there, those perfect titties in my face, chirping and clicking and signing (yes, i know that saying this will guarantee a special spot south of the equator in hell, but i must) i was struck by the memory of a favorite cartoon show of mine as a child.

surely you remember battle of the planets (also known as gatchaman or g-force) with the wierd little boy named keyop who could only talk in clicks and beeps and whistles? well i did, and at that moment i was struck with the thought,"i just fucked keyop!" i didn't mean to, but i erupted into laughter, and without her even knowing what i found so funny, she started to laugh too (and click and beep and whoop).

i had had enough. suddenly i became afraid that if i let her stal all night, i'd be responsible for finding away to get her home in the morning (and i had very little confidence that she could communicate where she lived to me or mr. motoconcho). i neede to get her back to classicos asap in the hopes that her friends / handlers were still around after they failed so miserably in their duties by letting her go off with a strange man. reasoning correctly that she might not notice the change in plans, i handed her her clothing and started to get dressed. thankfully keyop took the hint and quickly got dressed. then the final piece of insanity took place.

normally, i always discuss price with a chica before having sex with them. in my initial excitement and subsequent shock, it had slipped my mind. it clearly hadn't slipped hers as she excitedly typed something in her phone and shoved it into my face with a click and chirp that i assumed were full of satisfaction. her phone said "3000." i damn near fell off of the bed. keyop was trying to punk me! i told her no way. 3000 was more than i'd pay for an all night lay and that i would give her 1500. of course that was followed by another round of sound affects that would make a human beatbox jealous before she typed (and i swear that this is not a typo by me)"20000. i just looked at her, suddenly tired of the whole thing, and reached into my pocket for the 2000 pesos i had and handed it to her. she frowned, clucked (yes, it was a new sound, rather chickenish) then got up to head for the door.

suddenly, something on my floor caught her attention and she once again got animated with the signing and pointing and noises. i figured out that she was talking about my trojan ecstasies in a box on the floor. she pointed at the box and held up one finger. i said 'why the hell not? ' and nodded. she tore off two and quickly stuffed them into her purse. i herded her out of the house and into the car, speedily making my way back to classicos to drop keyop off into the caring hands of her friends. i then hauled ass home to write every detail of this fucking day.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Professor 1; 1238041]I do not purchase supplemental health insurance for trips. My health insurance covers me anywhere; however, it is on a reimbursement basis for claims outside the USA I had to see a physician outside the USA after a minor motorcycle accident. I went to a private clinic, paid with my credit card, and got a receipt. I submitted the claim and receipts, and was reimbursed before the credit card bill arrived. You should check with your policy.

If you plan to relocate, that may be a different situation. Check with an expat who lives where you are going.[/QUOTE]I buy the travel insurance for 20 bucks with my Spirit ticket, it covers me for 10000 dollars in medical and in case of trip delays covers expenses.

[QUOTE=Amb832;1238004]$20 to unlock a phone? You should be able to do that for free if you call the phone company and tell them you will be out the country and need the phone to be unlocked. They should provide you a code if I'm not mistaken.[/QUOTE]Don't beat me up too bad on my decision. I feel it is a 20 bucks well spent. First, I hate sitting on the phone with any customer service rep, be it my phone, laptop, washer, etc. Second, I am in no way a techno wizard. The phone I have I am comfortable with. Not having to have to learn a new phone is a plus.

Just say'and,

Again thank all of you for you opinion.

I will Be in DR on Wed afternoon. I hope to tell all of you the things "I have learned while doing"

JJ

[QUOTE=JimJames; 1238097]Don't beat me up too bad on my decision. I feel it is a 20 bucks well spent. First, I hate sitting on the phone with any customer service rep, be it my phone, laptop, washer, etc. Second, I am in no way a techno wizard. The phone I have I am comfortable with. Not having to have to learn a new phone is a plus.

Just say'and,

Again thank all of you for you opinion.

I will Be in DR on Wed afternoon. I hope to tell all of you the things "I have learned while doing"

JJ[/QUOTE]Your handset and contract needs to meet certain requirements to unlock for free. Otherwise you'd be paying. 20 sounds about right. I also like to carry my Android phone for all the features it has and video / still Cameras. Unfortunately its a CDMA phone and I can't use it for calls when I am there and I am not paying the outrageous fees to activate it. However, I do collect / store chica phone numbers if at all the need arises which rarely does in Sosua. Another simple way if you like a chica is to inform her time and place you want to see her and the odds are she will show up. You may have some trouble turning her away if you have changed your mind. LOL.

i plan to go to sousa in march and i swear i'm going to try to find "click clack" for a night of fun and beat box love! thanks for the story; priceless!

[quote=dexterstjock; 1238065]dude, thanks for the laughs! i think with the amount of laughing i did, reading your post, my trip to hell may be on an ez pass lane.

what added to the comic relief, was that while i was in sosua, back in july of last year, one of my boys spent a night with "click clack". we had no idea she was a mute until the next morning when we saw him trying to "shoo" her off, as we approached them. when we saw the sign language, that was the beginning of the end for him. we tormented him for the remainder of his trip, as friends should. we would often remind him."you came to sosua and fucked probably the only handicapped chick in the neighborhood! no bueno!". although none of us knew what the hell we were doing, we all jokingly communicated with him in sign language and clickity clacks, for the rest of the day. just to fuck with him. (i know, i know, hell for me. ez pass lane remember?).

but just when we thought things couldn't get any funnier, she came back to our hotel (looking for him) the next morning, with her sister (so she says) , who just so happens to be a clickity clack too! yes a mute! holy shit. 2 of them? seeing the look of horror on my boy's face, was well worth me peeing on myself a little bit, from laughing so hard. for the next 4 days, although being repeatedly rejected, the two sisters hounded him, apparently wanting a "menage a click clack".[/quote]

[QUOTE=JimJames;1238097]The phone I have I am comfortable with. Not having to have to learn a new phone is a plus. JJ[/QUOTE]Some guys lock up their expensive smart phones in the hotel safe. If you have lots of personal info on you cell phone, be careful, password protect the cell phone (in case it gets lost or stolen in DR) and / or lock it up in the safe. Pickpockets have existed in Sosua in the past in the streets and in bars, be aware if a chica or chicas start to "feel you up" in the street or in a bar on the dance floor. I had an experience in Sosua with a chica who tried to steal a cell phone from an apartment, she pushed the cell phone up her pussy to try and conceal it. I read a post years ago, where some chica robbed a guy's camera by tossing it out the window and then retrieving after she exited the guy's hotel.

If your life will be difficult if you lose your cell from home, you might want to consider buying a cheap cell in the DR that you can use when you are out and about in Sosua (that if it gets lost or stolen, will not be a great loss).

[QUOTE=Buscemi; 1237400]I will confirm that is Yossi El Mudo, nice girl, but certainly a seasoned veteran of Pedro Clisante! I am fairly sure this is the same chica in Sir Charles foto, how many mudo's are there in Puerto Plata region named Yossi?

Here is a trivia question for you 2000-2003 Boca Chica vets, who remembers the name of the "one-legged chica"?[/QUOTE]THE girls of an alone leg is PAMELA

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1237833]Verizon used to operate in Dom Rep, but sold that business a while ago (if you look on the big antenna in Sosua, you may still see verizon labels on the metal). I believe Verizon became Codetel.

Years ago I brought to DR, verizon cell phones, that I was no longer using and had them unlocked in DR and they worked with Claro (the verizon prepaid cell phones they sold at walmart also worked in DR after being unlocked). A few years ago I had trouble with one of the unlocked verizon prepaid cell phones, that I had been using in DR. I was told it is best to use GSM cell phones that take SIM cards (if you have trouble with the phone that takes a SIM card, all you have to do is buy a new SIM card). The verizon cell, even though I had used it before in DR with Claro, on a subsequent trip the service was interrupted and two Claro offices I went to were unable to get that sim-free cell to function with Claro again. After that I use GSM cell phones that take sim cards in the DR. You can also buy cell phones that take 2 sim cards (have a sim card for claro and a sim card for orange in the same phone).

I was with Sabor about 6 months ago when he bought a basic cell phone at Claro for around 800 pesos (about $21US) , with some minutes included. Sometimes Claro and Orange have promotions where they sell cell phones for under 500 pesos.[/QUOTE]I currently have an unlocked blackberry storm 1 from Verizon, but using a T-Mobile sim card to keep in touch with a few contacts with BBM. If I get a sim card in DR will BBM still work? Or will I have to get a plan that includes the blackberry internet plan?

[QUOTE=Sexxx6969;1238238]THE girls of an alone leg is PAMELA[/QUOTE]WINNER...WINNER...Chicken dinner!

I'm making a trip next month. Can anyone help w / some monger spanish. Ex. How much for short stay? GFE, bbj. Thanks

[QUOTE=Amb832;1238272]I currently have an unlocked blackberry storm 1 from Verizon, but using a T-Mobile sim card to keep in touch with a few contacts with BBM. If I get a sim card in DR will BBM still work? Or will I have to get a plan that includes the blackberry internet plan?[/QUOTE]Blackberry prepaid plans for Claro start around 50 pesos per day, [url]http://www.claro.com.do/contenido.aspx?id=444.[/url] Orange is about the same price. I know very little about blackberry and I have never used a blackberry in the DR. MiamiHeatLuver knows about blackberry service and I am sure other ISG members know about blackberry service in the DR.

[QUOTE=Bumwajob;1238354]I'm making a trip next month. Can anyone help w / some monger spanish. Ex. How much for short stay? GFE, bbj. Thanks[/QUOTE]How many times? Go to Google Translate. This is an online program on the Internet that you can access with a computer or one of those battery powered telephones that everyone has. Set the program from English to Spanish. Type in the words you want in the left hand panel for English. For example:

How much for a bare back blow job? (When you type in the English words it will help if you use simple grammar and correct spelling and write them out in full instead of using initials.)

The computer then types back: "¿Cuánto por una mamada a pelo?" These are the Spanish words that mean "How much for a bare back blow job?" If you want to hear these words spoken, then you click on the little loudspeaker icon on your screen. You can practice saying the words before you leave home. If you have something like an iPhone or iPad, you can also use this program in the field anywhere there is a wi-fi signal. Most restaurants have it.

[url]http://translate.google.com/[/url]#en|es|

¿Se puede manejar un pene muy grande?

(Are you able to handle a very large penis?)

¿Se puede manejar un idiota completo?

(Can you handle a complete dickhead?)

[QUOTE=Bumwajob;1238354]I'm making a trip next month. Can anyone help w / some monger spanish. Ex. How much for short stay? GFE, bbj. Thanks[/QUOTE]A pocket full of money is all the Spanish you shall need my friend.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1238430]How many times? Go to Google Translate.

¿Se puede manejar un idiota completo?

(Can you handle a complete dickhead?) [/QUOTE]LOL. Frannie how many times have the guys told you to ease up on your googling?

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1238461]A pocket full of money is all the Spanish you shall need my friend.[/QUOTE]Word, LOL!

BBBJ= chupa sin condom?

CIM=terminar en la boca?

CIM a bit rare. Diseases more common.

Yes, but peso is more important than espanol. Learn a few phrases. That will maximize your fun. Don't behave like a stupid gringo. Except when it is a strategic move.

Like when I was ion Colombia and was not enjoying the 3-some and the chicas wanted to leave after 3 hrs of continuous sex and the only thing stopping them was them getting paid. They had tried everything including faking orgasms, a headache, declaring that the chica had a period but I had agreed on a full night. So I acted like a gringo who did not understand spanish and kept them working for 2 more hours until I had to catch a plane. Bitches got my digital camera and the liquor in my room, though!

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1238430]How many times? Go to Google Translate. This is an online program on the Internet that you can access with a computer or one of those battery powered telephones that everyone has. Set the program from English to Spanish. Type in the words you want in the left hand panel for English. For example:

How much for a bare back blow job? (When you type in the English words it will help if you use simple grammar and correct spelling and write them out in full instead of using initials.)

The computer then types back: "¿Cuánto por una mamada a pelo?" These are the Spanish words that mean "How much for a bare back blow job?" If you want to hear these words spoken, then you click on the little loudspeaker icon on your screen. You can practice saying the words before you leave home. If you have something like an iPhone or iPad, you can also use this program in the field anywhere there is a wi-fi signal. Most restaurants have it.

[url]http://translate.google.com/[/url]

#en|es|

¿Se puede manejar un pene muy grande?

(Are you able to handle a very large penis?)

¿Se puede manejar un idiota completo?

(Can you handle a complete dickhead?) [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bumwajob;1238354]I'm making a trip next month. Can anyone help w / some monger spanish. Ex. How much for short stay? GFE, bbj. Thanks[/QUOTE]Cuanto por un rato? (how much for a little while?) or Cuanto por un hora? (how much for an hour?). Girlfriend=Novia. Quiero (key-air-oh) un novia (I want a girlfriend). Una experiencia como con una novia, eso quiero (A girlfriend experience is what I want). GFE usually just happens with certain women (some hardcore pros will promise whatever to get your money and you may not get a GFE).

BBBJ (sexo ora sin condon) , BBBJCIM (sexo oral sin condon, leche en la boca).

Dominican Republic is a pretty place with friendly people, but I had two bad experiences with chicas.

In Boca Chica, ¨Carolina¨, a thin, dark girl with a pretty smile, came to my room and wanted payment in advance. We agreed on half in advance, then things went to hell, with lots of bad attitude. She stopped and changed positions twice, just when I was enjoying myself, then said she would finish me orally, but then wanted more money. I kicked her out, but we had a nasty confrontation about balance due, involving hotel staff, and I ended up throwing the balance at her to get her to leave.

In Sosua, ¨Jessica¨, dark skin, nice body, agreed to all my requests in advance, including payment after sex, but then her attitude changed when we got to my room. Every request was met with resistance, and the total experience was a huge turnoff. The blow job was one of the worst ever, and one of many things she was bitching about was that I did not shave my pubic hair. That's a new one on me. I kicked her out too, but she made it clear that she was not leaving without getting paid, with implied threats of violence, so I paid. I have had great experiences with girls all over Asia and Latin America, but if my two experiences here are any indication, the name of the game in the DR is to provide a terrible, frustrating experience, get out fast, and demand to be paid anyway.

[QUOTE=ColoradoMonger;1238740]Dominican Republic is a pretty place with friendly people, but I had two bad experiences with chicas.

In Boca Chica, ¨Carolina¨, a thin, dark girl with a pretty smile, came to my room and wanted payment in advance. We agreed on half in advance, then things went to hell, with lots of bad attitude. She stopped and changed positions twice, just when I was enjoying myself, then said she would finish me orally, but then wanted more money. I kicked her out, but we had a nasty confrontation about balance due, involving hotel staff, and I ended up throwing the balance at her to get her to leave.

In Sosua, ¨Jessica¨, dark skin, nice body, agreed to all my requests in advance, including payment after sex, but then her attitude changed when we got to my room. Every request was met with resistance, and the total experience was a huge turnoff. The blow job was one of the worst ever, and one of many things she was bitching about was that I did not shave my pubic hair. That's a new one on me. I kicked her out too, but she made it clear that she was not leaving without getting paid, with implied threats of violence, so I paid. I have had great experiences with girls all over Asia and Latin America, but if my two experiences here are any indication, the name of the game in the DR is to provide a terrible, frustrating experience, get out fast, and demand to be paid anyway.[/QUOTE]

You should take the average bad times you've had with chicas vs. The overall experience. You mentioned having having two bad experiences with two different chicas in two separate places (Boca Chica and Sosua). But how many other chicas were you with in those places?

I've been to Sosua five times and will say that out of the 8 or 9 different chicas I am with on each trip, there is always one that will cut up. I have never gotten to the point in where we had to involve hotel staff or security though. It was similar to the same problems you had. One chica I was with agreed to TLN but got dressed once we finished, so I paid her half of what we agreed on. She tried to protest (but not too much) and I stood my ground.

Either way, you will never be able to tell beforehand how out of control a chica is willing to get in these situations. Most of the problem-chicas do not walk around with "nutcase" stamped on their foreheads, LOL.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1238779]You should take the average bad times you've had with chicas vs. The overall experience. You mentioned having having two bad experiences with two different chicas in two separate places (Boca Chica and Sosua). But how many other chicas were you with in those places?

I've been to Sosua five times and will say that out of the 8 or 9 different chicas I am with on each trip, there is always one that will cut up. I have never gotten to the point in where we had to involve hotel staff or security though. It was similar to the same problems you had. One chica I was with agreed to TLN but got dressed once we finished, so I paid her half of what we agreed on. She tried to protest (but not too much) and I stood my ground.

Either way, you will never be able to tell beforehand how out of control a chica is willing to get in these situations. Most of the problem-chicas do not walk around with "nutcase" stamped on their foreheads, LOL.[/QUOTE]Good points, but I think it is important to put them on your clock and make them adapt to you. This is where the interview process pays off. If they are rushing and go straight to prices that is a flag to me. If she finishes every sentence with" Lets go" thats another flag. If she is looking around for other options, thats a flag. If her phone rings every five minutes, thats a flag. If she drinks more than you, thats a flag.

Some guys choose by looks, without doing an interview.

If problems occur in the room you have to be tactical. You have to get her out of the " Winning enviornment" she has which is your hotel area. She knows you don't want drama where you are staying. Get dressed and tell her"lets go", if she doesn't follow you out, you have problems and are better off cutting a deal. If she walks out the room with you, then you have control and can choose your options. Once outside the hotel you can offer to buy her a beer and calm her down before you give her a few pesos and walk away, or you can just say" Fuck it" and just walk away, but you might get cussed out in public as you walk away. Also keep your eyes on her eyes when things go foul in the room. If she starts looking around for things to throw or steal get close where you can stop her from destroying your room and just make a counter offer. The main point is that its not about the principle, but its about getting her out of your room before she sets it off.

[QUOTE] Dominican Republic is a pretty place with friendly people, but I had two bad experiences with chicas.

In Sosua, ¨Jessica¨, dark skin, nice body, agreed to all my requests in advance, including payment after sex, but then her attitude changed when we got to my room. Every request was met with resistance, and the total experience was a huge turnoff. The blow job was one of the worst ever, and one of many things she was bitching about was that I did not shave my pubic hair. That's a new one on me. I kicked her out too, but she made it clear that she was not leaving without getting paid, with implied threats of violence, so I paid.[/QUOTE]

Maybe she WAS a nut case, but if you got a blow job, even if it was a lousy one, then you have to pay unless the agreement was that you would sample the blow job before deciding whether to purchase. In La Sirena supermarket in Puerto Plata there is a sign that says you may not try on underwear and then return it. It is a bit like that with blow jobs. If your penis passes her lips, then there is no refund.

If you have long pubic hair, it may have been tickling her nose. We will assume that you were freshly showered and that cleanliness was not the issue. A beard trimmer is a useful accessory for the well groomed monger to display his tools and equipment to look their best, and a variety are displayed here:

[url]http://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=234951011[/url]

As others have suggested, a pre-coital interview to establish the sanity of the other participant (s) is generally recommended. I can't ever remember having to prepay, but some girls have told me that some guys "abusan las chicas" and try to get services gratis. One solution is to place the necessary funds in a neutral location as a form of escrow account, but frankly if the matter became an issue before the fact, I would assume that the necessary chemistry was not there and would seek an alternate provider.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1238812]If she drinks more than you, that's a flag.[/QUOTE]If you buy her alcohol, that is a double flag, because you don't know how she will handle the alcohol, and because you are wasting money, which will make her think you are an easy mark.

[QUOTE=ColoradoMonger;1238740]In Boca Chica, ¨Carolina¨, She stopped and changed positions twice, just when I was enjoying myself, then said she would finish me orally, but then wanted more money. I kicked her out, but we had a nasty confrontation about balance due, involving hotel staff, and I ended up throwing the balance at her to get her to leave.

In Sosua, ¨Jessica¨, I kicked her out too, but she made it clear that she was not leaving without getting paid, with implied threats of violence, so I paid. I have had great experiences with girls all over Asia and Latin America, but if my two experiences here are any indication, the name of the game in the DR is to provide a terrible, frustrating experience, get out fast, and demand to be paid anyway.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=SavePros321;1238779]One chica I was with agreed to TLN but got dressed once we finished, so I paid her half of what we agreed on. She tried to protest (but not too much) and I stood my ground.[/QUOTE]What I'm seeing here is two very different mongers. It just goes to show that the same way we size the chicas up to see who are the tigresses and who are the gazelles is the same way they are able to size us mongers up and tell who they will be able to Deebo around and who they will not.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1238872]If you buy her alcohol, that is a double flag, because you don't know how she will handle the alcohol, and because you are wasting money, which will make her think you are an easy mark.[/QUOTE]On the contrary Sir, I buy them drinks to loosen them up and give myself an advantage, but I didn't say get them drunk.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1238872]If you buy her alcohol, that is a double flag, because you don't know how she will handle the alcohol, and because you are wasting money, which will make her think you are an easy mark.[/QUOTE]Fran,

How is buying a woman a drink a double flag? That's the time when your trying to figure out if you have a winner or a hardcore puta. Your conversing with her and doing a interview check like Gogo spoke of earlier. Now if you offer to buy her a drink and she orders the most expensive shit she can think of now that's a red FLAG!

Seriously though we all want to save money but if you can't buy a honey who your interviewing to as they say have "sexual relations" with a measly presidente (which cost I think 150pesos) thats really being a cheap bastard!

[QUOTE=MS Clive; 1238536]Yes, but peso is more important than espanol. Learn a few phrases. That will maximize your fun. Don't behave like a stupid gringo. Except when it is a strategic move.

Like when I was ion Colombia and was not enjoying the 3-some and the chicas wanted to leave after 3 hrs of continuous sex and the only thing stopping them was them getting paid. They had tried everything including faking orgasms, a headache, declaring that the chica had a period but I had agreed on a full night. So I acted like a gringo who did not understand spanish and kept them working for 2 more hours until I had to catch a plane. Bitches got my digital camera and the liquor in my room, though![/QUOTE]Only your digital camera and all of your liquor? Looks like they got the better end of the deal. Look on the bright side, you can't take liquids on the plane anyways.

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1238914]Fran,

How is buying a woman a drink a double flag? That's the time when your trying to figure out if you have a winner or a hardcore puta. Your conversing with her and doing a interview check like Gogo spoke of earlier. Now if you offer to buy her a drink and she orders the most expensive shit she can think of now that's a red FLAG!

Seriously though we all want to save money but if you can't buy a honey who your interviewing to as they say have "sexual relations" with a measly presidente (which cost I think 150pesos) thats really being a cheap bastard![/QUOTE]You're saying this to a guy that trolls the cheapest Haitian massage parlors, looking for a deal. Had to get you atleast once in 2012 frannie, Happy New Year LOL.

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1238914]Fran,

How is buying a woman a drink a double flag? That's the time when your trying to figure out if you have a winner or a hardcore puta. Your conversing with her and doing a interview check like Gogo spoke of earlier. Now if you offer to buy her a drink and she orders the most expensive shit she can think of now that's a red FLAG!

Seriously though we all want to save money but if you can't buy a honey who your interviewing to as they say have "sexual relations" with a measly presidente (which cost I think 150pesos) thats really being a cheap bastard![/QUOTE]I wasn't really serious, but then again I almost never buy a girl a drink. If I did I would get mobbed by girls every time I went out. Obviously the reason why the girls are allowed to hang out in bars is that the proprietors hope that this will attract men who will buy drinks, which is fine and if you go into a bar you have to buy something in exchange for occupying a seat, which the girls don't. At the Merengue bar you can have coffee for 50 pesos, versus a bottle of water, which is 100 pesos, plus whatever tip you give the bar staff. Beer is maybe 150 pesos, and then mixed drinks are some ridiculous price that I don't even want to think about.

On the whole I would prefer to give a girl an extra 150 pesos for the sex, than give the money to the owner of the bar, so probably I am a cheap bastard. Then again, I think the girls would really prefer to have the cash than the beer, because when they have the cash in their little hands, they sure don't go back and buy themselves another beer.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1238918]You're saying this to a guy that trolls the cheapest Haitian massage parlors, looking for a deal. Had to get you atleast once in 2012 frannie, Happy New Year LOL.[/QUOTE]Happy New Year to you too, and many happy endings. The girls who are in the cheapest Haitian beauty parlors are out at the Merengue Bar at night drinking exclusive brands of vodka supplied by willing tourists. This talk about which places are best for meeting chicas is absurd, because the same chicas circulate round all the bars. Here is a cheap Haitian for you.

I caught these two having it off in the street.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1238925]Happy New Year to you too, and many happy endings. The girls who are in the cheapest Haitian beauty parlors are out at the Merengue Bar at night drinking exclusive brands of vodka supplied by willing tourists. This talk about which places are best for meeting chicas is absurd, because the same chicas circulate round all the bars. Here is a cheap Haitian for you.[/QUOTE]This one (Haitiana in the white top), and the second photo with the chica in the peach-colored pants and yellow high heels is what I like about Haitianas!

But I think knowing that a particular one spends all day in a "cheepie" massage parlor giving BJ's from sun up to sun down would kill it for me. :(

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1238921]At the Merengue bar you can have coffee for 50 pesos, versus a bottle of water, which is 100 pesos, plus whatever tip you give the bar staff. Beer is maybe 150 pesos, and then mixed drinks are some ridiculous price that I don't even want to think about.

On the whole I would prefer to give a girl an extra 150 pesos for the sex, than give the money to the owner of the bar, so probably I am a cheap bastard.[/QUOTE]Santo Libre's are 150 pesos!

[QUOTE=Frannie;1238921]On the whole I would prefer to give a girl an extra 150 pesos for the sex, than give the money to the owner of the bar, so probably I am a cheap bastard.[/QUOTE]I don't mind that the 150 pesos would go to the bar owner. It's what keeps the place running and gives us a place to hang at. Keep in mind that you would have to fly all the way to Thailand for the same setup places like Merengue Bar and Latinos has (music, putas and Presidente's in an open-air bar). I have much respect for them even more given that these places did not fold as a result of the crack down. I would hope other mongers would continue to support these establishments because without them we have nothing!

Of course you could always sit inside your hotel room and drink, but where's the fun in that? Most of my note-exchanging with other mongers about chicas has taken place right at the bar of Merengue with a Santo Libre in one hand and my cell phone in the other. :)

Its like this, Always look her in the eyes and be prepared to throw the man look (I aint going to stand for this shit!). Theyre reading you based on experiences, therefore you switch on in an animated fashion as to rush up and crowd their personal space. Its done with reflective body movement as though your getting ready to rumble but keep your distance. When your body language doesn't match what theyve experienced you will see their second thought take place, like (Oh shit! A real man what the fuk I'm getting into?) here's where you take your options with little resistance.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1238925]Happy New Year to you too, and many happy endings. The girls who are in the cheapest Haitian beauty parlors are out at the Merengue Bar at night drinking exclusive brands of vodka supplied by willing tourists. This talk about which places are best for meeting chicas is absurd, because the same chicas circulate round all the bars. Here is a cheap Haitian for you.[/QUOTE]I don't think so, because I've noticed there is a day shift that rests at night, and a night shift that rest during the day. Also I've seen alot of Haitian massage parlor girls who would never make the Latinos or Classicos muster (the two girls in the pic are examples). Most Haitian massage parlor girls are very poor and trying to keep from being deported (hence hiding in a massage parlor). But I still say Haitianas are "World Class fuckers' and alongside the Brazilians as the best.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1239006]I would hope other mongers would continue to support these establishments because without them we have [b]nothing[/b]![/QUOTE]You make a fair point that mongers who want that sort of environment should expect to have to pay a premium to keep it in existence. Obviously enough other people think the same way as you as the Merengue Bar has kept going despite economic problems and successive crackdowns.

But I wouldn't want newbies or those undecided about making a first trip to Sosua to think there is "nothing" else. A friend of mine has just left after a three-week stay there. He enjoyed end-to-end chicas at affordable prices and never went near the Merengue Bar, Clasico, Latino (now Velero?) or Passions either for that matter, and I know many others like him.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1239006]Of course you could always sit inside your hotel room and drink, but where's the fun in that? Most of my note-exchanging with other mongers about chicas has taken place right at the bar of Merengue with a Santo Libre in one hand and my cell phone in the other. :)[/QUOTE]You don't have to drink (alcohol) in bars to have a good time in Sosua. Right now I am sitting at a table with a delicious glass of unsweet iced tea laced with fresh leaves of spearmint in my hand. I rarely drink alcohol, but if I do it is usually at a restaurant with a meal. I hardly ever use a cell phone either. Once a chica gets your number, they will bug you to death. If you are a visitor to Sosua, you can get their number and call them from a centro de llamadas easily enough.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1239004]This one (Haitiana in the white top) , and the second photo with the chica in the peach-colored pants and yellow high heels is what I like about Haitianas!

But I think knowing that a particular one spends all day in a "cheepie" massage parlor giving BJ's from sun up to sun down would kill it for me. .[/QUOTE]Well that is you. Lots of guys who post here go to La Passion massage and spa and never post their concerns about this aspect of the girl's employment. But if you are at the disco at 1:00 a.m. and a very cute young thing catches your eye, then how do you know she has not just come off shift at La Passion? I guess you can ask her, but you still won't really know if she is telling the truth, or even if she is not from La Passion, you can't know that she didn't give someone else a blowjob fifteen minutes earlier at Calypso.

I think this is more to do with a kind of subtle anti-Haitian feeling that exists in some quarters on this board that almost borders on rac..., I mean preju..., oh never mind. Just to say that if you go into a beauty salon and there are four Haitian girls there, they may each have quite different personalities, levels of education, personal and family histories, and so on, and really all they have in common is that they or their families came from Haiti, probably for economic reasons and that limited employment opportunities have led them to take the only kind of employment they can get. This is like working in a call center in the US. All I am saying is that it makes more sense to take each chica on her own merits, than prejudge based on place of origin, skin color, language, hair style, clothing, regardless of whether they are Haitian, Dominican, or something else. And regardless of where you first encounter a girl, or where she works, Sosua is a small place and you will run into her in other locations.

I was talking to a Haitiana the other day, and explained to her that last Monday was a public holiday in the US for Martin Luther King Day. She had not heard of him, so I explained who he was and what he had done, and how when he was active in civil rights black people in the US could not sit in the same cinema, use the same bathrooms, or stay in the same hotels, as white people, and had to sit at the back of the bus. She looked puzzled and then asked: "Why not?". So I guess some progress has been made.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1239127]Well that is you. Lots of guys who post here go to La Passion massage and spa and never post their concerns about this aspect of the girl's employment. But if you are at the disco at 1:00 a. M. And a very cute young thing catches your eye, then how do you know she has not just come off shift at La Passion? I guess you can ask her, but you still won't really know if she is telling the truth, or even if she is not from La Passion, you can't know that she didn't give someone else a blowjob fifteen minutes earlier at Calypso.

I think this is more to do with a kind of subtle anti-Haitian feeling that exists in some quarters on this board that almost borders on rac, I mean preju, oh never mind. All I am saying is that it makes more sense to take each chica on her own merits, than prejudge based on place of origin, skin color, language, hair style, clothing, regardless of whether they are Haitian, Dominican, or something else. And regardless of where you first encounter a girl, or where she works, Sosua is a small place and you will run into her in other locations.

I was talking to a Haitiana the other day, and explained to her that last Monday was a public holiday in the US for Martin Luther King Day. She had not heard of him, so I explained who he was and what he had done, and how when he was active in civil rights black people in the US could not sit in the same cinema, use the same bathrooms, or stay in the same hotels, as white people, and had to sit at the back of the bus. She looked puzzled and then asked: "Why not?". So I guess some progress has been made.[/QUOTE]You and I think alike. I have visited Haiti and plan many return visits. I had also been planning to visit DR until I saw this PBS like documentary about "Black in [name the country-they covered Haiti, DR, US, Colombia and a few other places but I only saw the one on Haiti and DR]. I have now changed my position and do plan to visit DR this year but I will likely avoid the night clubs. I know how to go to places and meet friendly women without going the route of the nightclub. I am tentatively looking at early May but again those plans are very tentative at this point. Thanks for the posts. This is a sample of what I like to taste in Africa and I have posted my experience in Haiti in that forum along with pics.

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1238914]Fran,

How is buying a woman a drink a double flag? That's the time when your trying to figure out if you have a winner or a hardcore puta. Your conversing with her and doing a interview check like Gogo spoke of earlier. Now if you offer to buy her a drink and she orders the most expensive shit she can think of now that's a red FLAG!

Seriously though we all want to save money but if you can't buy a honey who your interviewing to as they say have "sexual relations" with a measly presidente (which cost I think 150pesos) thats really being a cheap bastard![/QUOTE]Great advice sir. Let her do the ordering and you sit back and observe: does she ask for permission or does she act as if it is her right etc. In life as in a bar I let people reveal themselves.

Yesterday. At Classicos I met this hottie called Paola. She ordered 2 beers off me: 1st with my permission and 2nd as if it was her right. A bit of a flag. Then she ordered a cocktail without asking me permission. I heard her but did not look at the waiter who actually came to our table and generally neglected this happened. When the drink came I did not offer to pay but looked the other way. She reached into her purse and paid for the drink! I think it must have been 250 pesos. Anyway serves her right!

She looked well dressed and very hot indeed. After 15 minutes she asked me if I wanted to do fricky-fricky in an information gathering sort of way: sign of an amateur and puta wannabe. I said yes and then she named her price: US$100? I showed shock. I can afford that and this chick was so hot I could care less. But then her direct approach told me she would me major cold fish in bed. Also there was more fish in the ocean that was passing us by with every wave. My shock worked and "In Dominican it will will 3, 500 pesos" she declared. Now I knew I could bargain her down to 2, 500. La Passions price if I wanted but I thought there was more money and less chemistry. I did not bargain and on that cue I walked out on her. I spent Road 300 on chica drinks but at least that helped me screen out the *****. Eventually the other fish I ended up catching was Jessy. And such a woman. Topic of another report.

Cmon Frannie, we know you like to stir the pot with bullshit, but drop the race card thing? The people involved in this conversation, me and Savepros, both fuck Haitian girls, just not the low budget ones that cheap guys take advantage of. If there were aliens fucking in massage parlors for 100pesos, they would be your favorite. You don't have a phone because you are cheap, you drink the cheapest beverage served when about. I'm willing to bet you stay in some cheap rat hole.

You are in Sosua constantly, what happened to the wife and Prince the dog? Don't want them calling you? Hiding out in Sosua licking your wounds after la esposa Dominicana emptied your bank account?

Damn dude, I am trying to be nice in 2012, but don't throw the race card out there so freely, your not qualified.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1239127]Well that is you. Lots of guys who post here go to La Passion massage and spa and never post their concerns about this aspect of the girl's employment. But if you are at the disco at 1:00 am And a very cute young thing catches your eye, then how do you know she has not just come off shift at La Passion? I guess you can ask her, but you still won't really know if she is telling the truth, or even if she is not from La Passion, you can't know that she didn't give someone else a blowjob fifteen minutes earlier at Calypso.

I think this is more to do with a kind of subtle anti-Haitian feeling that exists in some quarters on this board that almost borders on rac, I mean preju, oh never mind. Just to say that if you go into a beauty salon and there are four Haitian girls there, they may each have quite different personalities, levels of education, personal and family histories, and so on, and really all they have in common is that they or their families came from Haiti, probably for economic reasons and that limited employment opportunities have led them to take the only kind of employment they can get. This is like working in a call center in the US. All I am saying is that it makes more sense to take each chica on her own merits, than prejudge based on place of origin, skin color, language, hair style, clothing, regardless of whether they are Haitian, Dominican, or something else. And regardless of where you first encounter a girl, or where she works, Sosua is a small place and you will run into her in other locations.

I was talking to a Haitiana the other day, and explained to her that last Monday was a public holiday in the US for Martin Luther King Day. She had not heard of him, so I explained who he was and what he had done, and how when he was active in civil rights black people in the US could not sit in the same cinema, use the same bathrooms, or stay in the same hotels, as white people, and had to sit at the back of the bus. She looked puzzled and then asked: "Why not?". So I guess some progress has been made.[/QUOTE]Fran! Be cool! Your really reading into to much of what SP said! I'm pretty sure that SP was stating that it's a turn off being with a woman that is probably sucking ALOT of dick and does it on a regular as a masseuse! Your assement that you could equally find the samething at a club is correct but we all have our turn off and that is his. Hell my turnoff is that I don't want to fuck another female that I know for sure has just been fuck. There's no underlying hidden racist sentiment towards haitains AT ALL coming from SP and majority of the fellow mongers.

Hell and to be honest for the longest time even now unless the girl tells me I have the hardest time deciphering which girl is Haitian or Dominician. I mean seriously how can you tell. Cus one is literally one shade darker then the other. WTF! Really doesn't make no sense at all to me but whatever. We all know your partial to the haitain honeys while I could give a fuck what she is. If she's fine and is not a hardcore puta that's all that matters in my book.

Now please do me a favor and get us out of the twilight zone and show us some more pics of those sexy honey dips!

[quote=savepros321; 1239004]this one (haitiana in the white top) , and the second photo with the chica in the peach-colored pants and yellow high heels is what i like about haitianas!

but i think knowing that a particular one spends all day in a "cheepie" massage parlor giving bj's from sun up to sun down would kill it for me.[/quote]the chicks at la passions are clean and well-fed. many of the ones at classicos seem desperate to me. i also find that the chicas i take back to my hotel from classicos do not use the flush after peeing. that is disgusting to me.

i prefer la passions' quality but the fun element in classicos is the hunting and interviewing the chicas. also at classicos you get the freebies which are more fun if you want to go for a burrito or to the playa etc.

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1239162]Hell and to be honest for the longest time even now unless the girl tells me I have the hardest time deciphering which girl is Haitian or Dominician.

I mean seriously how can you tell.[/QUOTE]You can usually tell by their Spanish accent, their names, which are not Spanish, or their choice of friends who are nearly always other Haitians.

[QUOTE=Coolie High;1239162]Cus one is literally one shade darker then the other. WTF![/QUOTE]There you go again! Haitians are not necessarily darker than Dominicanas and anyone who knows anything would know that people of African ancestry who spend a lot of time in the sun are likely to turn very dark, and most of the Haitian men you will see in the DR are doing outdoor jobs, hence very dark. However if you go to Haiti, you will see more variety.

I am not getting at SavePros, but he may be influenced by others here who have posted negative comments about Haitians.

[QUOTE=Coolie High;1239162]Now please do me a favor and get us out of the twilight zone and show us some more pics of those sexy honey dips![/QUOTE]If you insist.

[QUOTE=Jiggydus;1239157]You and I think alike.[/QUOTE]Please do not post pictures of unmade beds as some of our more sensitive mongers may be upset by implications of sexual activity having taken place.

Give the Putas a break and check out Los 27 Charcos Damajagua (think my spelling may be alittle off). Its a group of 27 waterfalls to where you can do some small rockclimbing, jump off cliffs into pools of gushing water, swim through some natural canals. I did it on my last visit and it was AMAZING! I took my chick with me and she had the time of her life. It only cost me 340 pesos too. The location can be alittle tough to find but its before the tunnel on the way to Santiago. Definetly worth checking out or just a cool ass place to check out during the day.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1239112]You make a fair point that mongers who want that sort of environment should expect to have to pay a premium to keep it in existence. Obviously enough other people think the same way as you as the Merengue Bar has kept going despite economic problems and successive crackdowns.

But I wouldn't want newbies or those undecided about making a first trip to Sosua to think there is "nothing" else. A friend of mine has just left after a three-week stay there. He enjoyed end-to-end chicas at affordable prices and never went near the Merengue Bar, Clasico, Latino (now Velero?) or Passions either for that matter, and I know many others like him.[/QUOTE]If you look at the big picture all of the point-and-click mongering cities have an anchor, the same as a shopping mall has an anchor store. In Sosua this place happens to be Merengue / Classico. If that place left then I don't think Sosua would be the same. Think of any shopping mall that you know of where the anchor store has closed and you will remember that it has left a desolate shit hole of a mall in its wake. The same thing happened in Rio. When Help Disco closed the point-and-click mongers who depended on the venue and the supporting places around it were left with only the shit hole that is Balcony. And there the girls started to ask 3 and 4 times what the going rate was before. The termas (similar to La Passion in Sosua) also increased their prices significantly. The day time monger / hooker meet up Meia Pataca restaurant was taken over by families. There were no more hookers trolling the beach in the daytime. Only the mongers who were already off the beaten paths and could speak a little Portuguese have been able to continue to thrive and get more bang for their buck in the local venues such as the downtown casas, privees, and Vila Mimosa.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1239186]Please do not post pictures of unmade beds as some of our more sensitive mongers may be upset by implications of sexual activity having taken place.[/QUOTE]Dominicanas in Sosua.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1239127]Well that is you. Lots of guys who post here go to La Passion massage and spa and never post their concerns about this aspect of the girl's employment. But if you are at the disco at 1:00 a.m. and a very cute young thing catches your eye, then [b]how do you know she has not just come off shift at La Passion?[/b] I guess you can ask her, but you still won't really know if she is telling the truth, or even if she is not from La Passion, you can't know that she didn't give someone else a blowjob fifteen minutes earlier at Calypso.[/QUOTE]Which is why I said:

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1239004][b]But I think knowing that a particular one[/b] spends all day in a "cheepie" massage parlor giving BJ's from sun up to sun down would kill it for me. :([/QUOTE]Which is to say, without this bit of information everything is good. In other words: "ignorance is bliss."

[QUOTE=Frannie;1239127]
I think this is more to do with a kind of subtle anti-Haitian feeling that exists in some quarters on this board that almost borders on rac..., I mean preju..., oh never mind. [/QUOTE]

My above quote applies to ANY nationality, be it Haitian, Dominican, Chinese, etc. Don't know why you assumed it was somehow only aimed at Haitians...

[quote=ms clive;1239166]the chicks at la passions are clean and well-fed. many of the ones at classicos seem desperate to me. i also find that the chicas i take back to my hotel from classicos do not use the flush after peeing. that is disgusting to me.[/quote]whereas i've never experienced any of this with any chicas from classico's or those wandering around the streets in general during the day.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1239213]The same thing happened in Rio. When Help Disco closed the point-and-click mongers who depended on the venue and the supporting places around it were left with only the shit hole that is Balcony. And there the girls started to ask 3 and 4 times what the going rate was before. The termas (similar to La Passion in Sosua) also increased their prices significantly. The day time monger / hooker meet up Meia Pataca restaurant was taken over by families. There were no more hookers trolling the beach in the daytime.[/QUOTE]This is an excellent example that I completely had forgotten about. Although I've never been to Rio, no one from that forum disputes the fact that it all went downhill immediately after the closing of Help Discoteca.

I'm coming to Sosua for the first time June 8th through the 12th I know this is a ways away but I want to start planning now.

I booked a room at the new garden in the old section. How is this compared to the new section from what I understand there are women available there if so what are the prices.

I have read about La Passions and Classicos as the place to find P4P how close are these places to New Garden. I know La Passions has set prices what are the prices at Classicos. What other locations are there to find P4P and what will the prices be. Are there daytime options available.

Where can I get Viagra and what will the prices be. Are dollars accepted or will I have to convert my money into the local currency.

Will anyone be there around this time and want to meet up and show this DR newbe around.

Thanks in advance.

Chris

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1239343]Whereas I've never experienced any of this with any chicas from Classico's or those wandering around the streets in general during the day.[/QUOTE]3rd girl in a row from Classico did that just before I posted this. Another thing happened with a Classico chica today:

I just got into a hand-to-hand fight with a very hot chica in my room. She got my $250 glasses and almost snapped them in half. I am a very mellow guy so this is rare for me. She was a such a great lay and great body. Hardcore puta but good sex. Name is Liselle. She seems to be a regular at Classico. Saw her each of 5 nights. I think she got picked up only 1 out of 5 nights she was there. The reason for the fight was that I did not pre-negotiate rates. Hence after sex she demanded 3, 500! That is more like alimony than sex worker prices. Foolish me. Did not fix prices.

I got into a proper fight with her. She started the physical portion of the altercation and grabbed my glasses. I would have punched her hard and knocked her out (I am trained in martial arts and can crack open a skull or break a neck in one shot) but I did not lose my cool. Instead I pinned her against the wall and basically rendered her motionless. Man I was so aroused I could have kissed her while she was shouting at me. She knew she was overpowered and threatened 'politur' or some shit like that. Then the security guy at the hotel came in (Terra Linda) and calmed her down. I paid her 2, 500 and kicked her out. She still threatened in mucho rapido espanol that I did not follow.

I used my common sense and when she was kicked out at the hotel entrance I went down and I paid her off anyway. 3,500 DOP total and paid 1, 000 to the security guard as propina. Better to pay the ***** off than worry about my own safety in her homeland. She was good though with great assets and tight pussy. If she had pre-negotiated 3, 500 I would have agreed anyway.

I learnt my lesson tonight that I need to pre-negotiate rates rather than leave anything to chance. The money does not matter as much as losing my patience on my precious vacation time.

Ok you experienced guys will tell me that 3, 500 is way too much to pay. I agree. But the problem is that when I am back on dry-land I always remember the 1 or 2 chicas that I was not able to do. Becomes an obsession and it eventually costs me more in air tickets etc. So it is best to pay and fulfill my curiosity when I can. On the brighter side 2 days ago I had a freebie non-pro from Classico so I guess the average rate I paid on this trip is still just below average.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1239343]Whereas I've never experienced any of this with any chicas from Classico's or those wandering around the streets in general during the day.[/QUOTE]I felt the same thing about a couple cihicas not flushing, but I think you have to cut them some slack. I went to a chicas house and she was poor. A nice girl, but poor. She did not have a bathroom in the house but essentially an out house. What happens is that after they go to the bathroom the women a few times the man or young boy will get a bucket of water and pour down the toilet as a manual flush. I think these girls sometimes who come from that environment are so use to not flushing they forget. I do not think they are being nasty they just forget because they are so use to not flushing just my two cents. I had a girl that did not flush but after a day hanging out with her she did.

[quote=ms clive;1239166]the chicks at la passions are clean and well-fed. many of the ones at classicos seem desperate to me.[/quote]passions chicas are full-time working girls which is why they are well-fed. if they seem clean it is because they are used to spending time with gringos. at clasico you find every type of chica from first-time amateurs to hard-core veterans. it is up to the monger to sort out what he wants. i don't like full-time working girls so i wouldn't shop at passions.

it depends what you mean by "desperate". if you mean the hard-cores who aggressively hit on you in clasico, then i agree they are a turn-off. but if you mean a chica who really needs the money for her family (and not for drugs) then these are the chicas i prefer to take. they are usually more appreciative and give better service and the money i give them is going somewhere useful, not to buy blackberries or luxury clothes.

[quote=ms clive;1239166]i also find that the chicas i take back to my hotel from classicos do not use the flush after peeing. that is disgusting to me.[/quote]you were just "unlucky" there. i have never experienced that with a clasico chica.

also you should bear in mind that they might have been being polite. water is in short supply in many dominican homes and to flush after peeing (only) would be considered anti-social behaviour. that luxury is reserved for after taking a crap.

[quote=charles pooter;1239497]also you should bear in mind that they might have been being polite. water is in short supply in many dominican homes and to flush after peeing (only) would be considered anti-social behaviour.[/quote]without sounding like an old fogey, a woman i knew in europe described how as a child during the second world war, they had to use sea water for cooking because there was no salt around, not to speak of the sense of constant hunger. ask one who was in vietnam if he had a roll of toilet paper along. lol. only when one has seen such real hardship and the will to survive, can one appreciate the beauty and generosity of the everyday things we are blessed with and stop whining about the superficial.

[QUOTE=Slimtower;1239198]Give the Putas a break and check out Los 27 Charcos Damajagua (think my spelling may be alittle off). Its a group of 27 waterfalls to where you can do some small rockclimbing, jump off cliffs into pools of gushing water, swim through some natural canals. I did it on my last visit and it was AMAZING! I took my chick with me and she had the time of her life. It only cost me 340 pesos too. The location can be alittle tough to find but its before the tunnel on the way to Santiago. Definetly worth checking out or just a cool ass place to check out during the day.[/QUOTE]How did you get to Los 27 Charcos Damajagua? Did you have a car? I would like to visit the falls on my next trip. They sound cool.

I remember during the droughts in the late 80's and earlyn 90's in north Cali, the motto was "if its yellow, let it mellow, if its brown flush it down." its understanble that they might not flush after every use because of enomonic issues, but a chica should know, if she's with a gringo in a hotel, that it is alright to flush the toliet. It makes it look like the chica is not clean to me but it never stopped me from smashing! I'd just tell them to get in the shower before anything anyway.

[QUOTE=Chris Long; 1239386]I'm coming to Sosua for the first time June 8th through the 12th I know this is a ways away but I want to start planning now.

I booked a room at the new garden in the old section. How is this compared to the new section from what I understand there are women available there if so what are the prices.

I have read about La Passions and Classicos as the place to find P4P how close are these places to New Garden. I know La Passions has set prices what are the prices at Classicos. What other locations are there to find P4P and what will the prices be. Are there daytime options available.

Where can I get Viagra and what will the prices be. Are dollars accepted or will I have to convert my money into the local currency.

Will anyone be there around this time and want to meet up and show this DR newbe around.

Thanks in advance.

Chris[/QUOTE]Read the form. Information is power. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2227-Sosua-Reports&p=1225328#post1225328[/url]

Rooms in new wing of NG are nicer and larger. Resident NG chicas are available from early afternoon to early evening. Not great but they get the job done. They will ask for the world but will settle for 1000 ST.

La Passions a 10 minute walk from NG. Classicos around the corner.

La Passions 2500 ST. Take out depends on the time of day / night. They have a website with list their prices.

Last two trips I had no problems getting accommodating chicas for 1000 st. 2000 TLN. Besides Classicos, Merengue Bar and the bar below it, I like Latino's, Bar Central and La Rumba's.

There was daytime action available. Things picked up in late afternoon. A lot of guys have luck at the beach.

[QUOTE=MS Clive; 1239442]3rd girl in a row from Classico did that just before I posted this. Another thing happened with a Classico chica today:

I just got into a hand-to-hand fight with a very hot chica in my room. She got my $250 glasses and almost snapped them in half. I am a very mellow guy so this is rare for me. She was a such a great lay and great body. Hardcore puta but good sex. Name is Liselle. She seems to be a regular at Classico. Saw her each of 5 nights. I think she got picked up only 1 out of 5 nights she was there. The reason for the fight was that I did not pre-negotiate rates. Hence after sex she demanded 3, 500! That is more like alimony than sex worker prices. Foolish me. Did not fix prices.

I got into a proper fight with her. She started the physical portion of the altercation and grabbed my glasses. I would have punched her hard and knocked her out (I am trained in martial arts and can crack open a skull or break a neck in one shot) but I did not lose my cool. Instead I pinned her against the wall and basically rendered her motionless. Man I was so aroused I could have kissed her while she was shouting at me. She knew she was overpowered and threatened 'politur' or some shit like that. Then the security guy at the hotel came in (Terra Linda) and calmed her down. I paid her 2, 500 and kicked her out. She still threatened in muchorapido espanol that I did not follow.

I used my common sense and when she was kicked out at the hotel entrance I went down and I paid her off anyway. 3,500 DOP total and paid 1, 000 to the security guard as propina. Better to pay the * off than worry about my own safety in her homeland. She was good though with great assets and tight pussy. If she had pre-negotiated 3, 500 I would have agreed anyway.

I learnt my lesson tonight that I need to pre-negotiate rates rather than leave anything to chance. The money does not matter as much as losing my patience on my precious vacation time.

Ok you experienced guys will tell me that 3, 500 is way too much to pay. I agree. But the problem is that when I am back on dry-land I always remember the 1 or 2 chicas that I was not able to do. Becomes an obsession and it eventually costs me more in air tickets etc. So it is best to pay and fulfill my curiosity when I can. On the brighter side 2 days ago I had a freebie non-pro from Classico so I guess the average rate I paid on this trip is still just below average.[/QUOTE]Very interesting to read about your experience. One thing I don't understand though, if that was already the fifth night you were seeing her though, it would be understandable that you felt comfortable enough not to have discussed payment beforehand. How much did you pay her the other four times you met? Or did you ask for some special extras you didn't the other times! Even so, it seems very strange that she should have reacted that way if you'd already met her four times! Personally I wouldn't have gone down to pay her the extra the way you did, after having stood your ground originally.

Let me tell you a little story that happened to me on my first visit to Sosua, in February last year. I had a similar experience with the first chick I was with in the place, if I am remembering correctly. Basically I saw a very hot looking woman walking along, coming up from the beach nearby the Morua Mai restaurant. I enjoyed the view and plucked up the courage to talk to her as she approached the bus station. She told me she ran a bar on the beach and gave me her phone number. The next day I strolled along the beach, and we sat down for a chat. We arranged to meet at around 6 at the same spot where I had first seen her the day beforehand. When we met and started strolling back to my hotel I tried to discuss money with her but she just said, 'Let's just see how it goes, whether you like it or not', so I just naievely thought 'OK then', or more to the point, I didn't think as my dick was thinking for me! When we got to my room she provided an OK service, nothing more. She didn't look anything like as hot with her clothes off as on, but I am sure we've all been there! When she was in my bathroom afterwards she started saying she liked my face cream or whatever, and I thought, I'll offer her a token cash amout, so that she stops messing around with my stuff etc. I said to her 'listen, here is 500 pesos, why don't you buy your kid a present with it'. Sound naieve now, but at the time, there had been no discussion about money beforehand really at all. Anyway, once I said this her attitude and even her voice changed completely and she became quite disagreeable, at least vocally. She said '500 pesos, what am I going to do with that? I should get at least 3000 minimum, to which I laughed and said 1000 maximum. Anyway, to cut a long story short, in the end I gave her 2000 to which she accepted only after a pretty disagreeable 5 or 10 minutes. But I stood my ground and acted the tough guy, even though inside I was thinking 'Oh crap, what have I got myself into? How am I going to get her out of my room? Will I have to call the security guard? One tactic I even tried was saying 'Listen, I'm going, you can stay here and do what you like, but you won't get your Cedula back from the reception though if you carry on like this', which I think kind of threw her. But eventually, I think she realised she wasn't getting anymore that that, and then suddenly changed back to being polite and said OK then, and we left the room. Once she got her Cedula back from the reception (main reception of Sosua bay beach club) I walked her out the first 10 metres towards the Casino. She said bye and I said sarcastically, in spanish, 'thanks for giving me such a lovely first impression of Dominican women, and don't come back here! ', which I think she took seriously.

It definitely left me with a bad impression of the scene there for at least the rest of that day, but don't worry, I certainly didn't let that experience affect my stay there. I had a great time, had loads of other very good encounters, but I certainly learned my lesson to always agree a fee beforehand, no matter how well you are getting on, how much the girl seems to like you, the chemistry etc. On the few times I passed her bar at the beach on that trip in February and again when I returned in Septemeber, she smiled and tried to say Hi to me, but all she got back from me were either some choice words under my breath (which she would need to lip read), otherwise a mean stare or usually I just totally ignored her. She always works alone at her bar, every now and again she seemed to have attracted some poor tourist victim to sit down for at least a drink with her. Anyway, I learned my lesson there, not to be repeated.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;1239678]Very interesting to read about your experience. One thing I don't understand though, if that was already the fifth night you were seeing her though, it would be understandable that you felt comfortable enough not to have discussed payment beforehand. How much did you pay her the other four times you met?[/QUOTE]Coupe66, I think you are reading this incorrectly. He is saying that he saw her at Classicos (standing around) for 4 nights and then approached her on the fifth night he saw her to talk to her about going back to his hotel room.

MS Clive: I think you mentioned that she may have only been picked up only once out of the 4 nights you saw her, but mention the fact that she is very sexy. This may have been an indication that others may have known beforehand that she is a nutcase, so they don't bother with her. It's the same way most of us found out about Patricia, LOL. When I left out of Classicos with her, one of the security guards just smiled, shook his head, and patted me on the shoulder. I found out later that night what that was all about, LOL.

[quote=charles pooter;1239497]also you should bear in mind that they might have been being polite. water is in short supply in many dominican homes and to flush after peeing (only) would be considered anti-social behaviour. that luxury is reserved for after taking a crap.[/quote]am i right in thinking that those who complain have never experienced carrying 5-gallon buckets of water from the pump or the spring uphill on their head to the house in 90 degree weather.

[QUOTE=Coupe66; 1239678.]

Let me tell you a little story that happened to me on my first visit to Sosua, in February last year. .

Sounds naive now, but at the time, there had been no discussion about money beforehand really at all. Anyway, once I said this her attitude and even her voice changed completely and she became quite disagreeable, at least vocally. She said '500 pesos, what am I going to do with that? Ome choice words under my breath (which she would need to lip read) , otherwise a mean stare or usually I just totally ignored her. .

She always works alone at her bar, every now and again she seemed to have attracted some poor tourist victim to sit down for at least a drink with her. Anyway, I learned my lesson there, not to be repeated.[/QUOTE]

Probably she figured out that you were on your first day in Sosua, and thought you were easy pickings. It is a well known fact among the community of people who make it their business to know such things, that sex-hungry guys arriving on their first day in Sosua will pay more than the going rate for sex and motoconchos.

Gentlemen, it is almost never a good idea to have sex with a prostitute without discussing the price first, unless, possibly, you are in your own country and you are a cop and prostitution is illegal. Even then be careful. In the DR you can often have sexual experiences that are so enjoyable that you forget that it is all for money, but never forget that you are dealing with people who work in an unregulated profession, and from their point of view it is all about the money, not the sex, even if they do enjoy the act of sex when they get carried away in the moment, or they fancy the guy, or they are just feeling horny.

I think gone are the days when we pick up women and give them the going rate plus or minus few dollars. The women in disco have become much more mercenary. But if you pick manage to pick up girls from Santiago and other places who come there few nights off and on they will be happy to acept what you give. It is the regulars in Sosua who are mercenary.

I usually pick up only non regulars and never had a problem even without pre discussion. Sometimes setting up fees before does not hold good once the girl finds out how gullible you are. So it is better to be firm and not treat her like a gf lavishing praises.

It is probably not advisable for everyone to use this practice, but I never negotiate prices beforehand. Actually, I'm rarely told a price. I have a good idea of the market and when I'm taken well care of I'm generous anyway. I prefer the illusion so negotiating prices would kill it for me.

Again, don't underestimate the power of an interview. What is the rush? Chill out and scope the scene while you get a good feel of the chicas.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1239806]Am I right in thinking that those who complain have never experienced carrying 5-gallon buckets of water from the pump or the spring uphill on their head to the house in 90 degree weather.[/QUOTE]LOL. In defense of many here though, I have never personally seen the houses many chicas live in. Although I noticed pictures of rooms with corrugated metal sheets as the roof. Can't be fun in summer. As someone said here, not seeing the actual conditions under which people live, de-sensitizes us. I really would like to see these people in their own element (not in a club) to get a real feel of the place.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1239836]LOL. In defense of many here though, I have never personally seen the houses many chicas live in. Although I noticed pictures of rooms with corrugated metal sheets as the roof. Can't be fun in summer. As someone said here, not seeing the actual conditions under which people live, de-sensitizes us. I really would like to see these people in their own element (not in a club) to get a real feel of the place.[/QUOTE]Concrete block apartments which are hot and stuffy and smell of boiled cabbage. Dominicans spend a lot of time outdoors in the shade.

In the campo, to be fair, people may use a mule to go the the river and fetch water. These are certainly useful labor saving devices and can carry a payload of 10 gallons, versus 5 gallons for a human water carrier, but it still needs a human to load the mule and wield the stick to keep the mule on task.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1237193]Calypso is squalid. Somewhat better is the short-time room at the Central Bar (next to the Merengue Bar). The cabaña in Sosua is called Secreto Dulce and is at Playa Chiquita (400 pesos for 3 hours).[/QUOTE]There is a good cabana in sosua. I believe its cabana love and care. Its before you get to entrada el choco to the left but from the main strip on pedro clisante you will need a car to get there or a moto choncho. Very clean and nice and has served its purpose several times. I believe many on this board will have better direction.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1237566]You will definitely be at a disadvantage if you didn't, LOL.

Most of us get cell phones because you will more than likely:

1. Meet a chica that you want to bang, but just not at the moment (especially if you've been banging other chicas all day and are out of leche)

2. Bang a chica that absolutely rocks your socks in the sack and you wish to repeat with her again later or another day.

For number 1, just hand said chica your cell phone and she will input her cell number. You can either buy a cheap international / unlocked quad-band phone from Amazon. Com to bring with you, or just go to the Claro or Orange store once you get there and buy a cheap Dominican phone. There is usually also a guy walking around Sosua with a rack of phones for sale with minutes on them already. Just make sure it works before you give him any money.

Sometimes chicas will call your phone and hang up. Just call them back. They are just trying to save their minutes on their phone (incoming calls are free to them). If you call a chica and her phone is off, she is either with another guy, or her phone is dead (electricity is not 24/7 in the Barrios) , which is why it is always good to get multiple numbers from different chicas.

If you run out of minutes you can always buy more at most of the little supermarkets and they will give you a card with a code. I always ask them to do it for me (never could figure it out, LOL). You can also just go to the store where you bought the phone and buy more there.[/QUOTE]Good Idea BUT I never part with any of my properties. I will normally take a chicas phone and call mine. That way I have her number show on my phone. All it has to do is ring once.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1239853]Concrete block apartments which are hot and stuffy and smell of boiled cabbage. Dominicans spend a lot of time outdoors in the shade.

In the campo, to be fair, people may use a mule to go the the river and fetch water. These are certainly useful labor saving devices and can carry a payload of 10 gallons, versus 5 gallons for a human water carrier, but it still needs a human to load the mule and wield the stick to keep the mule on task.[/QUOTE]Yes, I have seen the pre-fab concrete blocks in pictures. I wonder if there is a place where one can get to see photos of the house / apartments from the outside and the neighborhood as well as pictures of the rooms including the bathrooms. Personally for me, that would be interesting learning.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1239915]Yes, I have seen the pre-fab concrete blocks in pictures. I wonder if there is a place where one can get to see photos of the house / apartments from the outside and the neighborhood as well as pictures of the rooms including the bathrooms. Personally for me, that would be interesting learning.[/QUOTE]No bathroom pics but I am sure you can just imagine, not a pretty sight. I have been to many of the poorer barrios in both the DR and Colombia and it is a sobering experience every single visit.

[QUOTE=John from NJ;1239602]How did you get to Los 27 Charcos Damajagua? Did you have a car? I would like to visit the falls on my next trip. They sound cool.[/QUOTE]You don't need a car or taxi. Just catch the Santiago publico from La Javilla (in Puerto Plata) or the La Javilla Tours bus (also from La Javilla) and they will drop you off at the turning. It's about two miles past Imbert on the Santiago road. Cost you less than 50 pesos one way. Then it is quarter-mile walk to the pay kiosk. Don't go if there has been much heavy rain lately.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1239915]Yes, I have seen the pre-fab concrete blocks in pictures. I wonder if there is a place where one can get to see photos of the house / apartments from the outside and the neighborhood as well as pictures of the rooms including the bathrooms. Personally for me, that would be interesting learning.[/QUOTE]Concrete block apartments pretty much the same as the interior of cheap hotels in Sosua. Floors are always concrete or tile, never carpet or wood. Bathrooms as per cheap hotels. In the campo, you can see a lot of homes that probably are not much different from the time of Columbus. Timber frame buildings with half cut timber and shingles made of half cut brushwood with the bark still on. Kitchen in a separate buiding (in case of fire) with a dirt floor, natural lighting, and a clay woodburning cook top. A pile of plantains in one corner, and a few chickens and cats walking around. A couple of big knives or choppers in the kitchen, and a couple of big caldera to cook in. Outdoor toilets in outhouse with deep pits with deepo vertical pits under bench with circular opening to sit on. Rainwater collect from gutters and stored in barrel on roof for showering and bathing. More water available from river, spring, or well on demand. Basic electrical supply with wires twisted together at joins and running along exposed beams. Rooms divided by wooden partitions about 6 feet high (big fire risk). Candles in use when electric supply is cut off (often).

Mosquito screens on bedroom window openings, but insects can enter via "ventilation" cracks in outer walls.

In other words, this is what residents of the US would call "camping".

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1239929]No bathroom pics but I am sure you can just imagine, not a pretty sight. I have been to many of the poorer barrios in both the DR and Colombia and it is a sobering experience every single visit.[/QUOTE]Your first picture is on Google images and is attributed to Nancy Pinsonneault. Let them know that she has laid claim to your picture.

[quote=frannie;1239806]am i right in thinking that those who complain have never experienced carrying 5-gallon buckets of water from the pump or the spring uphill on their head to the house in 90 degree weather.[/quote]these children aged maybe 7 to 8 have to carry these heavy five-gallon containers for up to 15 minutes (with rests) up a very steep, narrow, crumbling and slippery path. i had trouble going up and down and i was carrying nothing heavier than a camera. and they have to do it two three times a day, every day. that's why they don't waste water flushing just for a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]. this was haiti but no doubt we could take similar pics many places in the dr.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1239969]These children aged maybe 7 to 8 have to carry these heavy five-gallon containers for up to 15 minutes (with rests) up a very steep, narrow, crumbling and slippery path.[/QUOTE]Thanks Charles Pooter, Frannie and Manizales.grateful for you time! I do not feel so good, looking at these pictures. It is all the more surprising to see the huts and tenement buildings when, the pitch of selling properties in the D. R show fancy houses / aprtments replete with alluring swimming pools or azure ocean views. The contrast could not be starker.

[quote=charles pooter;1239969]these children aged maybe 7 to 8 have to carry these heavy five-gallon containers for up to 15 minutes (with rests) up a very steep, narrow, crumbling and slippery path. i had trouble going up and down and i was carrying nothing heavier than a camera. and they have to do it two three times a day, every day. that's why they don't waste water flushing just for a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]. this was haiti but no doubt we could take similar pics many places in the dr.[/quote]yes, i have similar photos from haiti. gives them good posture, though. you don't hear haitian mothers saying "now sit up straight, little jean-paul, or you will end up like the hunchback of notre dame."

actually, i lived for some years in bermuda, which has a higher standard of living than the us in most respects, and most people there didn't flush [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in homes, because everyone was dependent on rain water. in the us, because of water shortages and droughts, they have come up with an ingenious work around. to save water on flushing toilets, they make each flush about half a gallon only and in public washrooms you can hardly get your hands wet to wash them. the beauty of this system is that you often have to flush the toilet two or three times, because there isn't enough water to clear it. but the small flushes make us feel that we are conserving, and that is what is important.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1239999]Thanks Charles Pooter, Frannie and Manizales.grateful for you time! I do not feel so good, looking at these pictures. It is all the more surprising to see the huts and tenement buildings when, the pitch of selling properties in the D. R show fancy houses / aprtments replete with alluring swimming pools or azure ocean views. The contrast could not be starker.[/QUOTE]The contrast is quite stark and requires a certain amount of tack and patience. I took a non-pro gf to a resort. I told her she could bring her son and cousin. Otherwise, her mother would have objected. When they arrived, they just stood in the lobby in awe. After escorting them to the apartment, they HAD to have a tour. So, we had a tour. The relatives were impressed by the bathroom and hot water. I had to buy swimming trunks for all, as they would have entered the pool in their shorts and t-shirts. You simply don't do this at a resort. The key was handling this in a tactful manner as not to embarrass the girl and her people. A pro with her client looked at them funny at first, but I ignored it. After awhile, one said if was nice of me to bring them.

I don't suggest the neighborhood trip to most. Most North Americans lack the tact to visit a non-pro at her house and interact with her family. You are a rock star, though. If you go, give a discreet tip to the mother for the food. Sometimes they feel they must stuff you, and you know that's their food for a week.

[quote=charles pooter;1239969]these children aged maybe 7 to 8 have to carry these heavy five-gallon containers for up to 15 minutes (with rests) up a very steep, narrow, crumbling and slippery path. i had trouble going up and down and i was carrying nothing heavier than a camera. and they have to do it two three times a day, every day. that's why they don't waste water flushing just for a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]. this was haiti but no doubt we could take similar pics many places in the dr.[/quote]its sad how these children are exploited. they are sent by relatives or other families from remote villages to the city so they can attend school and help out with house chores but are just used as slaves (as shown on cnn).

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qqr7amrsjkq[/url]

[QUOTE=Professor 1; 1240019]The contrast is quite stark and requires a certain amount of tack and patience.

I don't suggest the neighborhood trip to most. Most North Americans lack the tact to visit a non-pro at her house and interact with her family. You are a rock star, though. If you go, give a discreet tip to the mother for the food. Sometimes they feel they must stuff you, and you know that's their food for a week.[/QUOTE]Thank you Professor 1, for your story and the pointer. Personally, coming from where I do, exchanging thoughts with quite a few people on this board has been interesting for me in more senses than one. In addition to broadening my horizon. I appreciate it as much as the tips on what to do or not, pursuing our avowed hobby.

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi;1239912]At this point I have to censure the rest of the story, so as not to infringe on the urbanity and propriety of ISG members.[/QUOTE]By all means please continue with your story. You took a paddle to the back of the nuts then what?

[QUOTE=Kman1; 1240058]Its sad how these children are exploited. They are sent by relatives or other families from remote villages to the city so they can attend school and help out with house chores but are just used as slaves (as shown on CNN).

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qqR7aMrsjKQ[/url][/QUOTE]Wow, my "no-flush" comment has generated so much discussion regarding their poverty and difficulty. I do admit that I used my gringo standards to judge them. I stand majorly corrected.

[quote=hillbilly69;1240220]by all means please continue with your story. you took a paddle to the back of the nuts then what?[/quote]please continue, did you take a family sized presidente in the bum, or did she rep001 on you?

inquiring minds are ready for the next scene!

[quote=buscemi; 1240234]please continue, did you take a family sized presidente in the bum, or did she rep001 on you?

inquiring minds are ready for the next scene![/quote]you kidding or are you a masochist, lol? i am crouching in pain reading what in my mind's eye was a hit on my balls. no more! please! in hindsight, perhaps there should be a separate thread for the afficionados of all arcane form of pleasure. so whoever chooses to read up, can do so. i am just too straight for this stuff.

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi; 1239912]I told Aida that she would be the main focus of the scene and that she would have to direct while Vanessa would be the object of my desire. This was the only way it would work until Vanessa got more experience. Aida had been with me on two occasions, so she knew what I liked and I knew what she liked. It was now a matter of her doing what was natural for her. What makes it so easy for women to take the dominant role in a BDSM sexual interaction, if they can open up their mind and disabuse themselves of preconceived cultural mores, is that they are possessive of both female waiting and male mounting software. Mounting brain software (fucking) and lordosis brain software (raising the hips and waiting, otherwise known as being fucked) are possessed both by males and females. Such brain software actually goes back to our mammalian ancestors who lived when the dinosaurs dominated the planet, hence its durability and prevalence in our species. Even though both software is possessed by both males and females, each type of sexual predisposition, waiting or mounting, has its own specific software in the subcortex. Software in the subcortex of the male brain controls mounting software, whereas different software in the subcortex of the female brain controls lordosis. In light of evolutionary biology, it really was a matter of opening myself up to these women- I already had done so for Aida- and making them feel comfortable with a different side of the coin of their sexual repertoire that they normally would not experience, especially since they lived in a patriarchal society. Once I had done this everything would fall into place. In fact, it already was falling into place and it would repeatedly on this trip. Out of the thirty-four women I had sexual interludes with, fifteen partook in BDSM roleplay with me- and they were the ones I had actually asked to engage in BDSM roleplay with. The others of whom I was not interested in partaking in BDSM roleplay with I did not ask, but I may have gotten them to agree with it as well. What really served as the proof in the pudding as far as Vanessa and Aida actually enjoying BDSM as opposed to just doing it for the money was the fact that they had already snatched up the 3000 peso payment for the short time interlude that I left for them on the counter. They could have easily walked at this point, but they didn't. They were definitely interested in partaking in the BDSM interlude, notwithstanding their limited experience.

Aida first attached my collar to my neck and clipped on my leash. She speaks some English, but during the entire scene she was speaking Spanish, which I couldn't understand, so I am going to use my imagination and imagine what I think she was saying during the scene. 'Get on the bed * and start licking Vanessa's pussy. ' Venessa lie naked on the bed with her legs spread. Her pussy was clean shaven and smelled like ambrosia. She just got out of the shower and she was ever so clean. I stuck my tongue deep into her vagina.

Aida shouted out, 'Get your tongue deep into her pussy you fucking puta. '

I put my tongue deep inside her pussy while I pulled her hips upward and towards my mouth. I continued to rapidly insert my tongue into her pussy, accompanied by the forceful pulling up of her hips towards my mouth, all the while Aida used the cat-nine tails on my ass. She was a few feet away from me, but she was able to flick the cat o' nine tails with a degree of expertise that would have made a dominatrix in New York proud. At the same time Vanessa was moaning loudly and I had not even started on her clitoris yet. I took the initiative and started licking and sucking Vanessa's yearning clitoris. Aida came over, grabbed my collar and slapped me across the face.

'You had better get her off, . ' She pushed my face into her mound. I loved lapping up Vanessa's clitoris, but the fact that Aida was forcing me added to the sexual excitation of the scene. I wanted to put Vanessa over the edge, so I put her clitoris between my tongue and lower lip and flicked my tongue rapidly. That was all that was necessary to send her into nirvana. She grabbed my head to brace herself for the violent convulsions that she underwent.

Aida yelled, 'My fucking puta is muy bueno. I looked up at Vanessa and she had a smile on her face.

Stopping the scene momentarily, I asked Vanessa how she felt. She replied, 'That it was fabulous. '

'Not only can my puta eat pussy, but he eats ass as well, ' said Aida. ' What are you waiting for * Stick your tongue in her ass. '

Vanessa got up from her supine position on the bed and go on all fours. She had a round bottom, of which she pushed into my groin while taking a photograph with her, myself, and Aida on Pedro Clisante before we arrived at the hotel, and not at all flabby. She was in her prime of sexual attractiveness and fertility, so following Aida's directive to lick her ass certainly was not something I would hesitate in partaking in. I spread Venessa's cheeks wide and stuck my tongue deep into her asshole. I started with slow rhythmic thrusts of my elongated tongue, but then increased the rapidity of the insertions and listened to Venessa moan, music to my ears. In addition to the forceful tongue insertions, all the while being urged on my Aida as she held me tightly by my leash, I created tactile variation for Venessa by alternating between tongue insertions in her asshole and sensuous licking of both her asshole and the smooth succulent skin around her asshole. While enraptured by licking Venessa's ass I failed to observe that Aida left the scene. I assumed she went to the bathroom. I continued to lavish oral attention on Venassa's ass, thinking nothing of what surprise awaited me.

The shot to my testicles was hard. It was blunt force trauma induced by a hard cylindrical paddle. I got off the bed and clutched my balls in agony while Aida, clad in jeans, boots, and bra stood above of me as, I lay sprawled out on the ground, brandishing a paddle and donning a.

At this point I have to censure the rest of the story, so as not to infringe on the urbanity and propriety of ISG members. [/QUOTE Thanks for sparring us, the nasty ass details of your fetish, oh well What ever floats your boat or What ever that kicks you in the nutts. Lmao!

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1240280]You kidding or are you a masochist, LOL? I am crouching in pain reading what in my mind's eye was a hit on my balls. No more! PLEASE! In hindsight, perhaps there should be a separate thread for the afficionados of all arcane form of pleasure. So whoever chooses to read up, can do so. I am just too straight for this stuff.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I was beginning to think something was wrong with me for not liking that shit. I'm in Colombia now more than the DR, but when I check the Sosua board nowadays I just shake my head. There is more talk about guys waking up with dildos in their mouth, guys getting tied up, and guys smoking weed. I guess a new cycle is taking place, so good luck dudes, but ill keep my old fashioned ways and stick to fucking pussy.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1240284]Thanks, I was beginning to think something was wrong with me for not liking that shit. I'm in Colombia now more than the DR, but when I check the Sosua board nowadays I just shake my head. There is more talk about guys waking up with dildos in their mouth, guys getting tied up, and guys smoking weed. I guess a new cycle is taking place, so good luck dudes, but ill keep my old fashioned ways and stick to fucking pussy.[/QUOTE]Yeah there have seem to be a flux of twilight zone moments but in the end the old school ways of telling stories of how a true monger extrodinare smashed a young tenderoni will bring it back to formal glory. We got a good lineup this year. Chief is eyein his return in March. TomJackin and DeepmPactt are meeting up in April. I know you'll be down there a couple times. Hell even Fran is putting some good intel although his recent comments on Haitians brought us to the twilight zone. But those pics of his showing us some lovelys took us out of it. Maybe if Lugaz posted some pix of his lovelys and, well! Ummmmmm! Nevermind! I really don't want to see a pix of a dildo being shoved in his mouth by a puta LOL.

And as for myself I'm scheming on staying in DR for a WHOLE month this year! I'm leaning on going down in November. I'm trying to see if Casa Linda will make a deal with me. Want to stay in a villa with 24/7 security for a month but I'll be damn if I pay those daily rates for a whole month. Anyway ima need to talk to a few of you OG's behind back channel to discuss my future adventure. I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how am I going to manage my time with 3 girlfriends while still hunting for new honeys. I pull this off and my trip reports will become a month long novel, tentatively called "Coolie Highs Novella de Amor" LOL

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi;1240244]I would like to finish my recount of my BDSM interlude with Aida and Venessa, but I am prevented from doing so by the moderator of the site. Although I think that the information I can provide, in regards to which women in Sosua who will engage in BDSM roleplay and the type of BDSM activity that they will partake in, might be beneficial to some members on the forum interested in such activity I must respect the rules of the forum and not recount the activities that I engaged in that are contrary to the posting rules of the forum.[/QUOTE]Hey Lugalzaggizi, I got a puta you might like, for your your dog collar act, her name is Guadalope, she stands 6"6 750lbs puta, she will be buttnaked, belly hanging out, in tight leather, strapped with a 10inch, stainless steele dildo, waiting to wax that fat ass of yours, plus she carries a collar to strangle your stupid ass. Plus she's wears military style steele toed combat boots, ready to boot them nutts of yours, I see why.

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi;1240244]I would like to finish my recount of my BDSM interlude with Aida and Venessa,although I think that the information I can provide, in regards to which women in Sosua who will engage in BDSM roleplay and the type of BDSM activity that they will partake in, might be beneficial to some members on the forum interested in such activity .[/QUOTE]Yes, please post some pics, I can't say that I would be interested in the girls after their training but maybe some Brits are and it would benefit them.

I do not think it is worth bad-mouthing anyone just because they have different likes. Heck, by that standard, we would be labeled not so proper. Only perhaps a century ago when at least in the catholic faith, women used to cover themselves with a sheet and a hole stitched onto it because, sex was only about procreation."We have come a long way baby since then". So much so that on this forum it is "re-creation". Let the admin create a separate thread if such a thing is feasible, allowed and so forth. I certainly would not like to follow another path but that should not preclude others follow their choice between consenting adults. Let there not be oppression of the majority.

[QUOTE=MS Clive;1240221]Wow, my "no-flush" comment has generated so much discussion regarding their poverty and difficulty. I do admit that I used my gringo standards to judge them. I stand majorly corrected.[/QUOTE]Kudos for your frankness. For me, the best part of travel is that we get to see that there is no standard applicable to all and sundry.someone stands where we were yesterday. This prevents us from being judgmental on superficial things. Fortunately truly bad things are considered bad across all cultures which is the real reflection of our common humanity.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1240566]I do not think it is worth bad-mouthing anyone just because they have different likes. Heck, by that standard, we would be labeled not so proper.[/QUOTE]I don't think there is anything wrong with people doing whatever they find arousing and satisfying. I am not so sure about the motivation for writing about it in minute detail. Perhaps it is also arousing to be told by other men that you are a naughty boy.

Masochist: "Please whip me!"

Sadist: "Hell, no!"

I spoke to a young woman today and she said "Great. I would love to whip some mongers, and to make it really hurt, I will charge double."

[QUOTE=Frannie;1240590]I spoke to a young woman today and she said "Great. I would love to whip some mongers, and to make it really hurt, I will charge double."[/QUOTE]Ouch! That last part sprinkles salt on the gash by the whip. LOL.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1240590]I don't think there is anything wrong with people doing whatever they find arousing and satisfying. I am not so sure about the motivation for writing about it in minute detail. Perhaps it is also arousing to be told by other men that you are a naughty boy.[/QUOTE]When I was young there used to be books with titillating stories that would allow us to masturbate using our imagination. I guess some people have the natural gift of writing in such details and of course there might be other pay offs as you mention. Boy, was using imagination better than the ubiquitous graphic images. I wonder!

There was an earthquake today in Sosua, with the epicenter at Rio San Juan, a little distance past Cabarete along the North coast. No damage has been reported, but some mongers spilled their drinks.

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1240418]Yeah there have seem to be a flux of twilight zone moments but in the end the old school ways of telling stories of how a true monger extrodinare smashed a young tenderoni will bring it back to formal glory. We got a good lineup this year. Chief is eyein his return in March. TomJackin and DeepmPactt are meeting up in April. I know you'll be down there a couple times. Hell even Fran is putting some good intel although his recent comments on Haitians brought us to the twilight zone. But those pics of his showing us some lovelys took us out of it. Maybe if Lugaz posted some pix of his lovelys and, well! Ummmmmm! Nevermind! I really don't want to see a pix of a dildo being shoved in his mouth by a puta LOL.

And as for myself I'm scheming on staying in DR for a WHOLE month this year! I'm leaning on going down in November. I'm trying to see if Casa Linda will make a deal with me. Want to stay in a villa with 24/7 security for a month but I'll be damn if I pay those daily rates for a whole month. Anyway ima need to talk to a few of you OG's behind back channel to discuss my future adventure. I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how am I going to manage my time with 3 girlfriends while still hunting for new honeys. I pull this off and my trip reports will become a month long novel, tentatively called "Coolie Highs Novella de Amor" LOL[/QUOTE]7 foot shoutout! I can't wait to read your great post Coolie High, I love the title, We can rest asure, there won't be any dildos nowhere near your ass or mouth. (LOL) I also pledge, to return the conversation of this board, back out of, the twilight zone, and back to Sosua, where it belongs, and guess what? Ill even post pictures, of lovely young honeys, wow thats a new thought. Imagine a thread without flushing toilets talk, no dildos, no bdsm, just plain old, honey smashing talk. Mr Gogo don't worry ill re.hijack this board out the twillight zone, and take it back, to where it belongs. In Sosua. You got my word bro.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1240648]There was an earthquake today in Sosua, with the epicenter at Rio San Juan, a little distance past Cabarete along the North coast. No damage has been reported, but some mongers spilled their drinks.[/QUOTE]That is a major damage, LOL.

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt;1240437]Hey Lugalzaggizi, I got a puta you might like, for your your dog collar act, her name is Guadalope.[/QUOTE]I do not condone Paddle Ball or the reporting of such bazaar sex acts, but I would not be in the least bit surprised if this clown Lugalzaggizi is a 15 year old boy rubbing one out on his sister's iMac in the basement laughing at what attention he is getting.

[QUOTE=Coolie High;1240418]Yeah there have seem to be a flux of twilight zone moments but in the end the old school ways of telling stories of how a true monger extrodinare smashed a young tenderoni will bring it back to formal glory. We got a good lineup this year. Chief is eyein his return in March. TomJackin and DeepmPactt are meeting up in April. I know you'll be down there a couple times.[/QUOTE]And put me down for Feb 15-24.

[QUOTE=Slimtower;1239198]Give the Putas a break and check out Los 27 Charcos Damajagua (think my spelling may be alittle off). Its a group of 27 waterfalls to where you can do some small rockclimbing, jump off cliffs into pools of gushing water, swim through some natural canals. I did it on my last visit and it was AMAZING! I took my chick with me and she had the time of her life. It only cost me 340 pesos too. The location can be alittle tough to find but its before the tunnel on the way to Santiago. Definetly worth checking out or just a cool ass place to check out during the day.[/QUOTE]How did you get that tour for less than 10 bucks? Every tourist place I've ever been to offers the 27 waterfalls for between 40-60 dollars.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1241681]How did you get that tour for less than 10 bucks? Every tourist place I've ever been to offers the 27 waterfalls for between 40-60 dollars.[/QUOTE]I went direct, without a tour, and it was pretty inexpensive (don't remember how much) but I paid for 4 and didn't complain once. That place is a trip, like white water rafting without the raft. I have some pictures but I need to edit the faces before I post.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1241681]How did you get that tour for less than 10 bucks? Every tourist place I've ever been to offers the 27 waterfalls for between 40-60 dollars.[/QUOTE]The key words here are "tourist place". Based on what Slimtower wrote he went on his own and provided his own transportation.

[QUOTE=Slimtower;1239198]Give the Putas a break and check out Los 27 Charcos Damajagua (think my spelling may be alittle off). Its a group of 27 waterfalls to where you can do some small rockclimbing, jump off cliffs into pools of gushing water, swim through some natural canals. I did it on my last visit and it was AMAZING! I took my chick with me and she had the time of her life. It only cost me 340 pesos too. The location can be alittle tough to find but its before the tunnel on the way to Santiago. Definetly worth checking out or just a cool ass place to check out during the day.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.27charcos.com/index.php[/url]

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1241704][url]Http://www.27charcos.com/index.php[/url][/QUOTE]If anyone is in town while I am there and wants to tag along, I am definitely going probably on the 19th or 20th of FEB. I will have a car and will bring a non-pro chick. Just got to decide which one.

Hey Everyone,

Just wanted to post a trip report on my time in Sosua. First of all, it was fantastic. I stayed for 7 nights at the New Garden. I was in the new wing and it was pretty nice. Hot water, fridge, Sat TV with ABC, CBS, NBC etc, big bed, cleanliness, friendly staff. It was all great. The breakfast in the morning was as good as reported. They make the breakfast to your specifications, which is very cool. Especially since it was included in the cost of your room. The only complaint I would have would be that the wifi didn't work well. It constantly went in and out of service. Not a big deal, though, unless you are really into streaming video, etc. Overall, I'd recommend it to others, and it looks to be one of the better hotels down there.

The chicas are plentiful, that is for sure. They are all over the place. I grabbed girls at the hotel bar, off the street, at the discoteca, other bars on the strip, and at Passions. I was only disappointed in one experience, and it was my fault for not nailing down what I wanted before I brought her to my room. But, by and large, every other experience I had down there would be classified as GFE. The girls were drop dead gorgeous. A few of the girls were so stunning, I was in practically in awe of how fortunate I was to be in their presence, if only for hour or two.

I will say that I loved Passions. It is a great place for someone new to the scene to get started. The girls are beautiful, not very pushy, great rooms, set prices, and the girls really know how to get down to business. Both girls I grabbed (on two separate occasions) knew how to make someone feel good in various ways. I was going to go to CMP on my second walk east on Clisante, but I accidentally passed it and ended up in front of Passions. Figured it was a sign, so I went in for round two. No CMP this time. I'll give it a run next time I go.

I only went all night with one girl, and she was worth it. Beautiful girl. She was amazing in bed, and had a fantastic personality. Very cute and playful. She was fun as hell. I met her in the discoteca. In retrospect, I should have gone there more. Seemed like a good place to gauge chicas on a few different levels. Am I right about that, or am I just projecting because I found a really good on my first visit? Anyway, I did short time with all the other girls, which is the way I usually like it.

Some of the nuts and bolts of the trip: Flight. I flew in to Puerto Plata (POP). Easy flight with one stop in Miami. POP is truly only about 15 minutes away from Sosua by taxi. Easy. For a first timer, it was the way to go. I know you get there cheaper by going to the other airport, but I'd recommend coming in the easy way, at least the the first time in. Food. Food is available all over, man. I tried to eat at a new place every day, and I was pretty successful. (sorry, I suck with names) Many nationalities represented. I tried to eat mainly "Latin" food (When in Rome. .) but I also had some Americanized foods. Heck, during the AFC and NFC championship games, I got a pizza from across the street from New Garden. I walked over and ordered and they delivered it to me. Very cool. Most of the prices were inexpensive, Terre Linda's restaurant being somewhat the exception. They weren't bad, but a little higher than most. Nice place, though. Safety. Meh. It's a third world country, so you want to watch your 6 when you're out late at night, but it's really not bad at all. Just take the usual precautions and exercise caution, and you'll be fine. I was out by myself a lot at night and had no problems. MUCH safer than San Jose, Costa Rica. Beach. 10 minute walk and beautiful. Grab a chair close to the water and away from the row of businesses and relax. Something to do to between breakfast and nighttime.

Would I go to Sosua again? Hell yes! I had a great time. I've been to Amsterdam and Costa Rica so far. And while they're great, Sosua is better.

That's my report. Hope it helps someone out. And thanks again to the forum. I asked a list of questions awhile ago, and many guys gave me good advice. I appreciate it, truly.

Final note to future hobbyists:

How beautiful the girls are (and how many are available!) is something that that is hard to convey to someone that hasn't made a trip like this. If you are reading this and thinking of going on your first trip. Get your f*cking passport and go.

Henley

Thanks for the report Henley100. It seems like you had a great trip. Your post reminds me of what this forum should be all about. At times the focus is too much on the negative, rather than the beauty that is the Dominican Republic.

[QUOTE=Henley100; 1242026]Hey Everyone,

Just wanted to post a trip report on my time in Sosua. First of all, it was fantastic. I stayed for 7 nights at the New Garden. I was in the new wing and it was pretty nice. Hot water, fridge, Sat TV with ABC, CBS, NBC etc, big bed, cleanliness, friendly staff. It was all great. The breakfast in the morning was as good as reported. They make the breakfast to your specifications, which is very cool. Especially since it was included in the cost of your room. The only complaint I would have would be that the wifi didn't work well. It constantly went in and out of service. Not a big deal, though, unless you are really into streaming video, etc. Overall, I'd recommend it to others, and it looks to be one of the better hotels down there.

The chicas are plentiful, that is for sure. They are all over the place. I grabbed girls at the hotel bar, off the street, at the discoteca, other bars on the strip, and at Passions. I was only disappointed in one experience, and it was my fault for not nailing down what I wanted before I brought her to my room. But, by and large, every other experience I had down there would be classified as GFE. The girls were drop dead gorgeous. A few of the girls were so stunning, I was in practically in awe of how fortunate I was to be in their presence, if only for hour or two.

I will say that I loved Passions. It is a great place for someone new to the scene to get started. The girls are beautiful, not very pushy, great rooms, set prices, and the girls really know how to get down to business. Both girls I grabbed (on two separate occasions) knew how to make someone feel good in various ways. I was going to go to CMP on my second walk east on Clisante, but I accidentally passed it and ended up in front of Passions. Figured it was a sign, so I went in for round two. No CMP this time. I'll give it a run next time I go.

I only went all night with one girl, and she was worth it. Beautiful girl. She was amazing in bed, and had a fantastic personality. Very cute and playful. She was fun as hell. I met her in the discoteca. In retrospect, I should have gone there more. Seemed like a good place to gauge chicas on a few different levels. Am I right about that, or am I just projecting because I found a really good on my first visit? Anyway, I did short time with all the other girls, which is the way I usually like it.

Some of the nuts and bolts of the trip: Flight. I flew in to Puerto Plata (POP). Easy flight with one stop in Miami. POP is truly only about 15 minutes away from Sosua by taxi. Easy. For a first timer, it was the way to go. I know you get there cheaper by going to the other airport, but I'd recommend coming in the easy way, at least the the first time in. Food. Food is available all over, man. I tried to eat at a new place every day, and I was pretty successful. (sorry, I suck with names) Many nationalities represented. I tried to eat mainly "Latin" food (When in Rome.) but I also had some Americanized foods. Heck, during the AFC and NFC championship games, I got a pizza from across the street from New Garden. I walked over and ordered and they delivered it to me. Very cool. Most of the prices were inexpensive, Terre Linda's restaurant being somewhat the exception. They weren't bad, but a little higher than most. Nice place, though. Safety. Meh. It's a third world country, so you want to watch your 6 when you're out late at night, but it's really not bad at all. Just take the usual precautions and exercise caution, and you'll be fine. I was out by myself a lot at night and had no problems. MUCH safer than San Jose, Costa Rica. Beach. 10 minute walk and beautiful. Grab a chair close to the water and away from the row of businesses and relax. Something to do to between breakfast and nighttime.

Would I go to Sosua again? Hell yes! I had a great time. I've been to Amsterdam and Costa Rica so far. And while they're great, Sosua is better.

That's my report. Hope it helps someone out. And thanks again to the forum. I asked a list of questions awhile ago, and many guys gave me good advice. I appreciate it, truly.

Final note to future hobbyists:

How beautiful the girls are (and how many are available!) is something that that is hard to convey to someone that hasn't made a trip like this. If you are reading this and thinking of going on your first trip. Get your f*cking passport and go.

Henley[/QUOTE]Glad you had a great time and thanks for posting about your experience!

[QUOTE=Henley100; 1242026]Hey Everyone,

1. The only complaint I would have would be that the wifi didn't work well. It constantly went in and out of service. Not a big deal, though, unless you are really into streaming video, etc. Overall, I'd recommend it to others, and it looks to be one of the better hotels down there.

2. The girls were drop dead gorgeous. A few of the girls were so stunning, I was in practically in awe of how fortunate I was to be in their presence, if only for hour or two.

How beautiful the girls are (and how many are available!) is something that that is hard to convey to someone that hasn't made a trip like this. If you are reading this and thinking of going on your first trip. Get your f*cking passport and go.[/QUOTE]Nice report, great to hear from someone who had a wonderful time.

1. This seems to be a common experience with wi-fi in the DR. I too have found that shared wi-fi in a hotel is unreliable if you need reliable Internet service. However there are plenty of Internet cafes where you can rent a terminal, print and scan documents, send faxes, etc. If you need to. For the price of a chica for the night you can also buy a Claro USB dongle including enough data for your stay and this may be the way to go if you really want Internet 24 hours a day.

2. Those of us who have spent a lot of time in Sosua easily become blase and overlook how beautiful many of the girls are. If you come to the DR for the first time from the US, it will seem like there are beautiful women everywhere and you will be overwhelmed. After a while in the DR, you start to take it for granted that you will have a beauty or beauties playing some role in your life. Photographs that you see here are invariably misleading for several reasons, including:

A) people who post are not skilled photographers and do not plan the lighting and ambience of their pictures for maximum effect, b) they are too concerned about showing women naked, but figure photography is difficult to do well, c) it takes a certain amount of skill to photograph darker skinned subjects well, d) often the photographs are not edited or photoshopped to improve visual quality, e) few people will want to post face pictures of women they have a real relationship with, f) photographs rarely capture the real personality and often charming nature of the subjects, g) a lot of girls don't want to be photographed, because they know their pictures may appear on the Internet.

[QUOTE=Henley100; 1242026]Hey Everyone,

Final note to future hobbyists:

How beautiful the girls are (and how many are available!) is something that that is hard to convey to someone that hasn't made a trip like this. If you are reading this and thinking of going on your first trip. Get your f*cking passport and go.

Henley[/QUOTE]I am going to Sosua for the first time next Friday, nice report.

Hey fellas, I've searched the forum and can't find a clear answer for my question. What's the most cost effective way to travel from STI airport in Santiago to Sosua. Currently the flight from NY to Santiago is 395 and from NY to Puerto Plata is 900 for the dates that I want to go. So I will be saving a good chunk by flying into STI. I would not mine taking the bus as my flight would be arriving around 5 AM so I have plenty of time to get to Sosua and check into my hotel. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

[QUOTE=John from NJ;1239602]How did you get to Los 27 Charcos Damajagua? Did you have a car? I would like to visit the falls on my next trip. They sound cool.[/QUOTE]Yeah I had a car. I was told by this german lady that I met there that you can take a GuaGua. However in my own opinion, I like the independence of having my own vehicle. Hey The waterfalls is a MUST DO! You'll have the time of your life!

[QUOTE=LoveFiveStar; 1242198]Hey fellas, I've searched the forum and can't find a clear answer for my question. What's the most cost effective way to travel from STI airport in Santiago to Sosua. Currently the flight from NY to Santiago is 395 and from NY to Puerto Plata is 900 for the dates that I want to go. So I will be saving a good chunk by flying into STI. I would not mine taking the bus as my flight would be arriving around 5 AM so I have plenty of time to get to Sosua and check into my hotel. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks[/QUOTE]1. Get out of the airport as soon as you feel comfortable. I do it when the sun is out.

2. Take a Cab to Metro and or Caribe Express bus station in downtown santiago. They are practically next to each other.

3. Check the schedule. And buy a ticket. There should be a bus every hour. Approx 160 pesos ($4) one way / A-C bus.

4. I prefer Metro because it stops at a convenient location in Sosua. Travel time 90-120 minutes.

5. [url]http://caribetours.com.do/index.php/viajes/get_travel[/url]

6. [url]http://www.metroserviciosturisticos.com/rutas_horarios.html[/url]

7. Other options are: ride a cab all the way paying or sharing with others. Read forum for potential contacts and pay a lot more.

7. Most of this info is on one or other locations on this forum.

[QUOTE=Slimtower;1242309]Yeah I had a car. I was told by this german lady that I met there that you can take a GuaGua. However in my own opinion, I like the independence of having my own vehicle. Hey The waterfalls is a MUST DO! You'll have the time of your life![/QUOTE]I ride my scooter but I do not recommend you doing that unless you have good motoskills, there are many LIFE ENDING drops and potholes along the way. Its about a 75minute scooter ride.

[QUOTE=LoveFiveStar; 1242198]Hey fellas, I've searched the forum and can't find a clear answer for my question. What's the most cost effective way to travel from STI airport in Santiago to Sosua. Currently the flight from NY to Santiago is 395 and from NY to Puerto Plata is 900 for the dates that I want to go. So I will be saving a good chunk by flying into STI. I would not mine taking the bus as my flight would be arriving around 5 AM so I have plenty of time to get to Sosua and check into my hotel. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I agree with what tempoecorto said.

Going back from Sosua to Santiago airport is a bit more tricky if your return flight departs in the small hours of the morning, because the buses don't run late at night. You could probably negotiate and arrange a taxi ahead of time for about $3000 pesos from Sosua, but since you will have to leave your hotel by about 1:00 pm with your baggage, you will have a long day. You might want to get public transportation back to Santiago and then check into a hotel there and leave from there to the airport freshly fed, showered, and rested. This will not save a lot of money, but would be much less exhausting and you could sightsee a bit in Santiago. You could also get a cabana room close to the airport, which might save some money, and you might even be able to find a young lady to share your last hours in paradise.

[QUOTE=Henley100; 1242026]Hey Everyone,

Just wanted to post a trip report on my time in Sosua. First of all, it was fantastic. I stayed for 7 nights at the New Garden. I was in the new wing and it was pretty nice. Hot water, fridge, Sat TV with ABC, CBS, NBC etc, big bed, cleanliness, friendly staff. It was all great. The breakfast in the morning was as good as reported. They make the breakfast to your specifications, which is very cool. Especially since it was included in the cost of your room. The only complaint I would have would be that the wifi didn't work well. It constantly went in and out of service. Not a big deal, though, unless you are really into streaming video, etc. Overall, I'd recommend it to others, and it looks to be one of the better hotels down there.

The chicas are plentiful, that is for sure. They are all over the place. I grabbed girls at the hotel bar, off the street, at the discoteca, other bars on the strip, and at Passions. I was only disappointed in one experience, and it was my fault for not nailing down what I wanted before I brought her to my room. But, by and large, every other experience I had down there would be classified as GFE. The girls were drop dead gorgeous. A few of the girls were so stunning, I was in practically in awe of how fortunate I was to be in their presence, if only for hour or two.

I will say that I loved Passions. It is a great place for someone new to the scene to get started. The girls are beautiful, not very pushy, great rooms, set prices, and the girls really know how to get down to business. Both girls I grabbed (on two separate occasions) knew how to make someone feel good in various ways. I was going to go to CMP on my second walk east on Clisante, but I accidentally passed it and ended up in front of Passions. Figured it was a sign, so I went in for round two. No CMP this time. I'll give it a run next time I go.

I only went all night with one girl, and she was worth it. Beautiful girl. She was amazing in bed, and had a fantastic personality. Very cute and playful. She was fun as hell. I met her in the discoteca. In retrospect, I should have gone there more. Seemed like a good place to gauge chicas on a few different levels. Am I right about that, or am I just projecting because I found a really good on my first visit? Anyway, I did short time with all the other girls, which is the way I usually like it.

Some of the nuts and bolts of the trip: Flight. I flew in to Puerto Plata (POP). Easy flight with one stop in Miami. POP is truly only about 15 minutes away from Sosua by taxi. Easy. For a first timer, it was the way to go. I know you get there cheaper by going to the other airport, but I'd recommend coming in the easy way, at least the the first time in. Food. Food is available all over, man. I tried to eat at a new place every day, and I was pretty successful. (sorry, I suck with names) Many nationalities represented. I tried to eat mainly "Latin" food (When in Rome.) but I also had some Americanized foods. Heck, during the AFC and NFC championship games, I got a pizza from across the street from New Garden. I walked over and ordered and they delivered it to me. Very cool. Most of the prices were inexpensive, Terre Linda's restaurant being somewhat the exception. They weren't bad, but a little higher than most. Nice place, though. Safety. Meh. It's a third world country, so you want to watch your 6 when you're out late at night, but it's really not bad at all. Just take the usual precautions and exercise caution, and you'll be fine. I was out by myself a lot at night and had no problems. MUCH safer than San Jose, Costa Rica. Beach. 10 minute walk and beautiful. Grab a chair close to the water and away from the row of businesses and relax. Something to do to between breakfast and nighttime.

Would I go to Sosua again? Hell yes! I had a great time. I've been to Amsterdam and Costa Rica so far. And while they're great, Sosua is better.

That's my report. Hope it helps someone out. And thanks again to the forum. I asked a list of questions awhile ago, and many guys gave me good advice. I appreciate it, truly.

Final note to future hobbyists:

How beautiful the girls are (and how many are available!) is something that that is hard to convey to someone that hasn't made a trip like this. If you are reading this and thinking of going on your first trip. Get your f*cking passport and go.

Henley[/QUOTE]Bravo, My friend, for posting a very fun, optimistic, and positive report. I guess Sosua aint the WORSE, place on earth! (listening to some mongers here!). How refreshing your report is, we can all learn from your positive, upbeat expieriences, yes there, are negatives in all trips, but nice to hear the focus staying on your positive expieriences! Shoutout to Coolie high, Tomjackin, Savepro, Mr Gogo, Jaososua, Mandingo Al (now known as the Puta Romeo) AlwaysHorny2, Bbq ribs, Mr Enternational, and the list go on and on. Peace!

[QUOTE=Henley100; 1242026]Hey Everyone,

Just wanted to post a trip report on my time in Sosua. First of all, it was fantastic. I stayed for 7 nights at the New Garden. I was in the new wing and it was pretty nice. Hot water, fridge, Sat TV with ABC, CBS, NBC etc, big bed, cleanliness, friendly staff. It was all great. The breakfast in the morning was as good as reported. They make the breakfast...[/QUOTE]Glad you had a good time. So how much did passions charge you to go with the ladies

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt;1242658]Bravo, My friend, for posting a very fun, optimistic, and positive report. I guess Sosua aint the WORSE, place on earth! (listening to some mongers here!). How refreshing your report is, we can all learn from your positive, upbeat expieriences, yes there, are negatives in all trips, but nice to hear the focus staying on your positive expieriences! Shoutout to Coolie high, Tomjackin, Savepro, Mr Gogo, Jaososua, Mandingo Al (now known as the Puta Romeo) AlwaysHorny2, Bbq ribs, Mr Enternational, and the list go on and on. Peace![/QUOTE]For years, I have tried to get friends to visit and have a great time in Sosua!

[QUOTE=Grub1;1242710]Glad you had a good time. So how much did passions charge you to go with the ladies[/QUOTE]The "menu" for La Passion is on their Web site and the prices are non-negotiable. Their prices for drinks are fairly stiff, though, and I don't think they are posted. They do however provide a free condoms, towels and soap as a part of any all-inclusive onsite package that includes sexual intercourse. With multichica packages extra condoms are also included.

[QUOTE=Grub1;1242710]Glad you had a good time. So how much did passions charge you to go with the ladies[/QUOTE]I went for the FS for one hour for 2500 pesos. Around $65 dollars. The rooms are clean, air conditioned, shower available. Both the girls I went with were great. Full GFE service, and they didn't try to short change my time. You should let the girl know exactly what you want, though, before you pay your money. That's good practice everywhere, even in a high end operation like Passions.

[QUOTE=Henley100;1242938]I went for the FS for one hour for 2500 pesos. Around $65 dollars. The rooms are clean, air conditioned, shower available. Both the girls I went with were great. Full GFE service, and they didn't try to short change my time. You should let the girl know exactly what you want, though, before you pay your money. That's good practice everywhere, even in a high end operation like Passions.[/QUOTE]How many brothel's would you say they were in Sosua and what would be the cheapest one for one hour action.

I going down to Sosua in February, this will be the second time I went there last May, but I wandering were is a good place to change my currency into Pesos?

Also is the hotel D'Piero a good place to bring back chicas and does any one have a review of the CMP (Caribbean Men Paradise)?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Grub1;1243042]How many brothel's would you say they were in Sosua and what would be the cheapest one for one hour action.[/QUOTE]The only "Brothel" in Sosua is Passions, and I guess C. M. P, After dark there are 100-200 ready willing and able chicas in town. In other words the entire strip is a meat market. You really need to read the forum!

[QUOTE=Buscemi;1243230]The only "Brothel" in Sosua is Passions, and I guess C. M. P, After dark there are 100-200 ready willing and able chicas in town. In other words the entire strip is a meat market. You really need to read the forum![/QUOTE]Can someone please explain to me how on Gods green earth is passions still open. I mean seriously you walk the street and there's honeys every where. And guess what? There CHEAPER!

I mean I can understand if your going just to survey the talent and shoot the shit with the fellas but once I see those prices even my other head that's over ruled the big head plenty of times when it comes to pussy will still say,"These prices are RIDICULOUS! Stop being a lazy bastard and take your ass out side and get a finer woman at a cheaper cost"! LOL

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1243317]Can someone please explain to me how on Gods green earth is passions still open. I mean seriously you walk the street and there's honeys every where. And guess what? There CHEAPER!

I mean I can understand if your going just to survey the talent and shoot the shit with the fellas but once I see those prices even my other head that's over ruled the big head plenty of times when it comes to pussy will still say,"These prices are RIDICULOUS! Stop being a lazy bastard and take your ass out side and get a finer woman at a cheaper cost"! LOL[/QUOTE]La Passion offers a greater level of confidentiality than the street, and although the prices are a bit higher, the customer effectively get free room rental, shower etc. So that he does not have to rent a hotel room or smell of sex when he rejoins his respectable family and friends at the all inclusive resort.

Thanks for the report Henley. It is great to see another satisfied customer. Man, if I had more time off available I would shoot down there pronto. It hasn't been two months and I already got the shakes! LOL.

I won't be back until Aug / Sept. I'm the known expert through my friends and I'm bringing a bunch of my frat bro's, so it is going to get crazy! More than likely, we are will be at Casa Linda unless someone can suggest better house rentals.

[QUOTE=Coolie High;1243317]Can someone please explain to me how on Gods green earth is passions still open.[/QUOTE]Jarabacoa, Dominican Republic. A CaribeTour bus carrying 52 passengers went over a ravine and ended up in a river near the town Bayacanes on Monday, with as many as 42 people reportedly injured and killing the driver.

The bus of the company Caribe Tours was heading to Santo Domingo under a persistent drizzle drenching the Central Mountain Range, where it lost its brakes and failed to negotiate one of the hairpin curves of the Jarabacoa-La Vega road.

The Volvo bus in the 3:20pm accident ended up in the Yani River, where first responders during several hours struggled to free the driver Julio Lugo, trapped in his compartment, but died at the scene.

The site of the accident is near Curva de la Virgen, a sharp turn and precipice which have claimed the lives of dozens of motorists over the years.

While I was riding around a few weeks ago I ran up on this place. Can someone please tell me what it is. I sorta felt uneasy while I was around this place.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1243329]Jarabacoa, Dominican Republic. A CaribeTour bus carrying 52 passengers went over a ravine and ended up in a river near the town Bayacanes on Monday, with as many as 42 people reportedly injured and killing the driver.

The bus of the company Caribe Tours was heading to Santo Domingo under a persistent drizzle drenching the Central Mountain Range, where it lost its brakes and failed to negotiate one of the hairpin curves of the Jarabacoa-La Vega road.

The Volvo bus in the 3:20pm accident ended up in the Yani River, where first responders during several hours struggled to free the driver Julio Lugo, trapped in his compartment, but died at the scene.

The site of the accident is near Curva de la Virgen, a sharp turn and precipice which have claimed the lives of dozens of motorists over the years.[/QUOTE][url]Http://listindiario.com.do/la-republica/2012/1/30/219916/Un-muerto-y-15-heridos-al-precipitarse-autobus[/url]

[QUOTE=Questner;1243396][url]Http://listindiario.com.do/la-republica/2012/1/30/219916/Un-muerto-y-15-heridos-al-precipitarse-autobus[/url][/QUOTE]Accidents happen all over the world.

Maybe the guy who copied the article about the bus accident should stay home or lock himself up in a hotel room like Howard Hughes, if he is overly paranoid.

[quote]January 15, 2012,"Alleged FARC rebels have begun an offensive in the north of Colombia, carrying out at least five attacks in two days. Five civilians have been killed in a number of terrorist attacks by FARC guerrillas in the north of Colombia, the local police commander told Radio Caracol Wednesday." [url]http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/21524-farc-carry-out-offensive-in-north-colombia.html[/url]

January 21, 2012,"An attack by Colombian FARC rebels on a radar installation in Cauca province delayed flights in the south of the Andean nation as well as some bound for neighboring Ecuador and Panama, the civil aviation authority said on Saturday." [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/21/us-colombia-farc-radar-idUSTRE80K0SK20120121[/url][/quote]I am happy to report that there are no FARC in the Dominican Republic.

Amazes me, that an ISG member who has at least two names on the ISG, who contributes basically no trip reports to the DR forum, but instead copies news articles and posts them here (predominately negative news articles to try and make the DR look bad). He continues his Jihad against the Dom Rep. He claims Cartagena, Colombia is a great place, I don't know why he obsesses over the Dominican Republic.

[quote=grub1;1243374]while i was riding around a few weeks ago i ran up on this place. can someone please tell me what it is. i sorta felt uneasy while i was around this place.[/quote]juan hubieres is (or was?) the leader of the fenatrano transport syndicate and he liked to bait the established political parties. nothing to be uneasy about except that someone might collar you and give you a three hour political speech.

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1243317]Can someone please explain to me how on Gods green earth is passions still open. I mean seriously you walk the street and there's honeys every where. And guess what? There CHEAPER!

I mean I can understand if your going just to survey the talent and shoot the shit with the fellas but once I see those prices even my other head that's over ruled the big head plenty of times when it comes to pussy will still say,"These prices are RIDICULOUS! Stop being a lazy bastard and take your ass out side and get a finer woman at a cheaper cost"! LOL[/QUOTE]I am so with you Coolie High. In all these years I have only had 2 or 3 sessions at La Passion, and they were nothing to remember. Who in his right mind would want a clock watching and high priced experience in the land of low priced GFE. It is such a losing business model in Sosua but to my suprise this place is still sucessful and thriving.

I guess the "no hassle, fixed price" policy with unconditional BJ and quality of girls (as quoted) is what has is going. But surely, an expereniced or somewhat semi expereinced monger can clearly see through this.

I've been watching some programs on US cable tv on the north coast of DR. First I saw on Travel Channel an older Black couple with a teenage daugthter from NJ shopping for a holiday home at Perla Marina, an area near Sosua. They worked with a German Realtor and ended up buying a Mexican style condo / apratment. 2 BR 2BA overlooking the ocean, gated community, and also a 1BR 1BA house with a private pool away from ocean as an investment property. In the end they showed the family enjoying their vacation in their new home and they talk about how close the town and beach area are and show them walking on the famed 'Sosua beach'. They also showed them sucsessfuly renting their investment home to some Europeans.

The other program was on HDTV,"Get Out" which shows these want to be models venturing out on adventures outside of US. This episode was on the DR and there were 2 groups of 3 girls. The first one was stationed near Cabarete and explored the 27 falls, though I did not see them mention the name. They said something like Rio frio, the cold river, but I missed the first part and their adventure looked too close to 27.

The other group of 3 girls explored a nudist resort, again I don't know where since I missed the first part. The nudists were all white Euproean and some of them were playinng testicle ball, some sort of a game.

Bottom line is DR, esp north coast is promoting regular mainstream toursim.

[quote=charles pooter;1243421]juan hubieres is (or was?) the leader of the fenatrano transport syndicate and he liked to bait the established political parties. nothing to be uneasy about except that someone might collar you and give you a three hour political speech.[/quote]thank's for the info i don't need that. vaction time is to important.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1243320]La Passion offers a greater level of confidentiality than the street, and although the prices are a bit higher, the customer effectively get free room rental, shower etc. So that he does not have to rent a hotel room or smell of sex when he rejoins his respectable family and friends at the all inclusive resort.[/QUOTE]That is a pretty sensible rationale. People who do not have time or who do not want to be seen.

Personally, I have no use of a place like that in a place like the D. R. However, it remains to be said that while inside, the costs are fairly straight forward, with the D. R at large (semi-pro. Hmm. Is there really anything called non-pro?) traffic, one is never truly sure of the final bill; so each according to his choice, LOL.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1242554]1. Get out of the airport as soon as you feel comfortable. I do it when the sun is out.

2. Take a Cab to Metro and or Caribe Express bus station in downtown santiago. They are practically next to each other.

3. Check the schedule. And buy a ticket. There should be a bus every hour. Approx 160 pesos ($4) one way / A-C bus.

4. I prefer Metro because it stops at a convenient location in Sosua. Travel time 90-120 minutes.

5. [url]http://caribetours.com.do/index.php/viajes/get_travel[/url]

6. [url]http://www.metroserviciosturisticos.com/rutas_horarios.html[/url]

7. Other options are: ride a cab all the way paying or sharing with others. Read forum for potential contacts and pay a lot more.

7. Most of this info is on one or other locations on this forum.[/QUOTE]Thanks, U guys really are the best. The info you get of these boards makes every trip to the DR even easier. The only left to do is rent a car one of these trips. Just not ready for that yet after ready about some of the horror stories.

Thanks again.

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1243317]Can someone please explain to me how on Gods green earth is passions still open. I mean seriously you walk the street and there's honeys every where. And guess what? There CHEAPER!

I mean I can understand if your going just to survey the talent and shoot the shit with the fellas but once I see those prices even my other head that's over ruled the big head plenty of times when it comes to pussy will still say,"These prices are RIDICULOUS! Stop being a lazy bastard and take your ass out side and get a finer woman at a cheaper cost"! LOL[/QUOTE]I'm not a fan myself. However my peoples like it because the girls do look good and you get to inspect their bodies before you buy. I see why they do it, nothing worse than getting a chick back to the room and when she takes off her clothes your like oh shit, not what I expected (scars, strechmarks etc.) Plus the take-out last time I was there was 2500 pesos, not bad for a night. I've paid more for chicks in classico.

[QUOTE=Kman1;1243428]Who in his right mind would want a clock watching and high priced experience in the land of low priced GFE. It is such a losing business model in Sosua but to my suprise this place is still sucessful and thriving.[/QUOTE]Clearly you don't know Sousa. African American hip-hop wannabe's from NYC keep Passions (and Sousa) on life support.

[QUOTE=MIC1975; 1243227]I going down to Sosua in February, this will be the second time I went there last May, but I wandering were is a good place to change my currency into Pesos?

Also is the hotel D'Piero a good place to bring back chicas and does any one have a review of the CMP (Caribbean Men Paradise)?

Thanks[/QUOTE]The best rate I know of is the Western Union office. 38. 80 It is across the street from the Supermercado that is next door to the poilice station on the main Road (5)

My main exchange guy is located by a little tiny booth on Dr Rosen. Dr Rosen is the street that has New Garden, TL, Rockys bar etc. He is next door to Rockys Condo Suites, directly across from Orchidee Hotel, diagonally across from Terra Linda. He usually wears wired frame sunglasses, and sits in a chair next to his booth. He is very friendly and honest. Sometimes a younger fella is there filling in for him. The rate is 38. 5.

If you are on the main strip where the clubs and Rest are, Pedro Clisante, walk down the street (stay on the right side of PC) towards the beach / Sosua Bay and about 100 feet before you get to the end of that long block, there is a tiny exchange booth there. 38. 5. At the corner are change guys, mostly all are offering 38. 5. You can get to the Western Union office if you make a left on this same corner and walk 100 yards up that small hill. WU is right there. BRING YOUR PASSPORT TO WU. I did get by with just a copy of my pp, but I wouldn't risk it, bring your pp with you to WU. Wherever you go, always confirm their rate and know how much you are supposed receive in pesos. I know thats common sense. But I have seen instances where a guy says outloud what you are supposed to get, but end up goofing up the amount he / she is supposed to give.

Like I said before, there are exchange places all over the place. You can also go to some of the local banks, but sometimes it takes forever when they have a few customers on line. And you still need your PP. Walk around, and you will see it is easy to exchange all day and even late at night in Sosua. I used to be intimidated by having to use Dom currency. But now I crave it. It is a major no no using your own domestic currency in DR. Except for a few things. Like hotel or car rental costs, and small tips. And I intend to bring some home with me, so I can have some available cash in case I need it before I am able to exchange.

[QUOTE=Coolie High;1243317]Can someone please explain to me how on Gods green earth is passions still open.[/QUOTE]Well one reason I can see for using a place like Passions in that the likelyhood of getting robbed if you fall asleep with the chica is a lot lower that with one off the street.

[QUOTE=Coalburner69;1243818]Clearly you don't know Sousa. African American hip-hop wannabe's from NYC keep Passions (and Sousa) on life support.[/QUOTE]I would have expressed it more diplomatically, but the content is spot on as regards Passions. (Stretching it a bit to include all of Sosua, though). Strange to doubt Peter's business model, when he is one of the few gringo businessmen on the North Coast who knows what he is doing and knows his market. Not a place I would patronise, for the reasons Kman1 states, but Peter is not looking for tightwads like me to fill his bar-stools (though, to be fair, he couldn't be more hospitable on the rare occasions I do drop in).

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1243915]I would have expressed it more diplomatically, but the content is spot on as regards Passions. (Stretching it a bit to include all of Sosua, though). Strange to doubt Peter's business model, when he is one of the few gringo businessmen on the North Coast who knows what he is doing and knows his market. Not a place I would patronise, for the reasons Kman1 states, but Peter is not looking for tightwads like me to fill his bar-stools (though, to be fair, he couldn't be more hospitable on the rare occasions I do drop in).[/QUOTE]Every single type of monger frequents Passions, from hip-hop, germans, canadians, brits, the old goofy american caucasian guys with the funny sandals and dirty t-shirts, EVERY KIND.

Me? I just go in there with my boys on the first night because they want to see the talent and how tacky the place looks this time around LOL, but after that one initial recognizance run. I never step foot in that place the rest of the trip. So many cuter and more economical chicas to be had along the beaten path and to me half the fun of sosua is hunt and variety. On another note you can find many of the passions chicas in the clubs trying to make a buck after hours even though this is suppose to be highly against passion policy rules.

Why somebody would come to sosua and hang out the majority of the time in passions is beyond me but hey to each his own I guess.

[QUOTE=Coalburner69;1243818]Clearly you don't know Sousa. African American hip-hop wannabe's from NYC keep Passions (and Sousa) on life support.[/QUOTE]Clearly you don't know Passions or what really goes on behind the scenes. Peter doesn't rely on African Americans to keep his club going. Peter has iwealthy European customers from the internet, who pay handsomely for a discreet encounter with a hot Latina, who is not walking the streets. Some marry and move to Europe, some go to private parties that we would never be invited to, others retire and become WU novias.

I have never seen his girls parading into Classicos, but others say they have. Most Passion girls meet a certaiin criteria that benefits Peters friends. Compared to CMP (a rippoff) Peter runs a well respected business. Without Passions Sosua woulnt be the same in my opinion without it.

As far as. AA in Sosua, I have never seen them cause any trouble, so whats the problem?

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1243917]Why somebody would come to sosua and hang out the majority of the time in passions is beyond me but hey to each his own I guess.[/QUOTE]I liked Passions a lot. The cost was not outrageous. $65-$70 for an hour with a hot 22 yo isn't that bad. When I pulled from the bars, It was only 15 dollars less than that. (I know a lot of guys can get pretty girls even cheaper, but I'm okay with 2000 pesos for short time.) Plus, it was pointed out earlier that you can see what you're getting with a girl there. No hidden stretch marks or cellulite surprises.

Passions had a lot of things going for it. It was no problem for me to tell a girl there that she was very pretty, but I was more interested in another girl standing at the other side of the bar. She smiled, said something in Spanish, and got the girl of my choice and brought her over. That's just stellar customer service! The rooms were clean and had a shower, A / C, etc. Both girls were fun in the sack and didn't watch the clock. I left with a smile and good memories.

I'd recommend to anyone new going to Sosua to give it a try. I went twice during my week's stay and had two of the better experiences of my trip.

[QUOTE=Coalburner69;1243818]Clearly you don't know Sousa. African American hip-hop wannabe's from NYC keep Passions (and Sousa) on life support.[/QUOTE]It is more clear that you do not know Sosua. Passions is what it is; one stop shopping that has lots of good looking women. I stopped in there for 2-3 drinks the last 5 trips I made to Sosua and I understand the safety and convenience of the place. Some guys don't want to deal with the hardcore putas on the street, some guys, but not me; I love them. So I completely understand the concept. Find a hottie, play for an hour, and move on. Do I partake? Never have, but have been temped.

Sorry Mr. Gogo, but I had a couple of hot women that worked in CMP; including the Fireball, who is now freelancing. So I still like to check out the action in there, and it is about the same price as Passions.

Oh by the way Coalburner, Coolie High, DeepMmpactt, and I like going to Sosua, and none of us are from NY Shitty! Nor are we hip-hop wannabe's. We travel from the West coast of the US to enjoy one of our favorite spots in the world!

Your comment sounded racists to say the least.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1244092]It is more clear that you do not know Sosua. Passions is what it is; one stop shopping that has lots of good looking women. I stopped in there for 2-3 drinks the last 5 trips I made to Sosua and I understand the safety and convenience of the place. Some guys don't want to deal with the hardcore putas on the street, some guys, but not me; I love them. So I completely understand the concept. Find a hottie, play for an hour, and move on. Do I partake? Never have, but have been temped.

Sorry Mr. Gogo, but I had a couple of hot women that worked in CMP; including the Fireball, who is now freelancing. So I still like to check out the action in there, and it is about the same price as Passions.

Oh by the way Coalburner, Coolie High, DeepMmpactt, and I like going to Sosua, and none of us are from NY Shitty! Nor are we hip-hop wannabe's. We travel from the West coast of the US to enjoy one of our favorite spots in the world!

Your comment sounded racists to say the least.[/QUOTE]Wzup up bro? Loved your Managua report, yeah I follow your travels. The one time I went to CMP, I felt like a steak in a lions cage LOL. Everyones opinion counts here, and yours are valuable.

[QUOTE=Henley100; 1243929]I liked Passions a lot. The cost was not outrageous. $65-$70 for an hour with a hot 22 yo isn't that bad. When I pulled from the bars, It was only 15 dollars less than that. (I know a lot of guys can get pretty girls even cheaper, but I'm okay with 2000 pesos for short time.) Plus, it was pointed out earlier that you can see what you're getting with a girl there. No hidden stretch marks or cellulite surprises.

Passions had a lot of things going for it. It was no problem for me to tell a girl there that she was very pretty, but I was more interested in another girl standing at the other side of the bar. She smiled, said something in Spanish, and got the girl of my choice and brought her over. That's just stellar customer service! The rooms were clean and had a shower, A / C, etc. Both girls were fun in the sack and didn't watch the clock. I left with a smile and good memories.

I'd recommend to anyone new going to Sosua to give it a try. I went twice during my week's stay and had two of the better experiences of my trip.[/QUOTE]Passions is good, anywhere else it would be stellar, but in Sosua I like the game outside. 2500 all nite vs 2500 1hr in passions. Also I don't like the fact these days passions they don't let you touch and feel the girls like it used to be. Nowadays, they tend to stand in the enclosed area mostly. You can get a good grind / dancing / dfk at Classico for a few drinks. Passions is a good place to go earlier in the day. I agree you can see the goods at Passions, during my last trip I had a bad experience at Classico, it was Tue night, one of the slowest, and a 36 yr old Santiago mami wearing some tight corset inside passed off for a 25 yr. She lied to me, I felt something was not right but she was the type that wouldn't let go, and after we went back to the room and she took her clothes off, I did not even want to do her for free. It was hard re negotiating and getting rid of her, long story short - hotel security involved- I'd's checked for 'overage' etc. shit happens.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1243919]Clearly you don't know Passions or what really goes on behind the scenes. Peter doesn't rely on African Americans to keep his club going. Peter has iwealthy European customers from the internet, who pay handsomely for a discreet encounter with a hot Latina, who is not walking the streets. Some marry and move to Europe, some go to private parties that we would never be invited to, others retire and become WU novias.

I have never seen his girls parading into Classicos, but others say they have.[/QUOTE]Not sure if any have married and gone to Europe. Although this happens a lot with bargirls. Customers for reasons want to help liked girl get out of the business, poverty etc. Then either they send money every month or few get married and take them to their country. What I believe that it happens a lot with Europeans as their immigration dept. Is not tough combined with low birth rate. American immigration is really tough.

It is true there are lots of private parties arranged by locals for distiguished customers. One beatifull girl I met from La Vega confirmed this. She looked like a European tourist. I met her at the casino. I bought her couple of drinks and one thing led to another and she ended up staying with me for 5 days. We did lots of fun things together since I had a rented van.

She told me she mostly goes to these private parties through her contacts and make lots of money. She said she does not go to bars. I do not believe all her story, I am sure she goes to bars as well. All these girls pretend to be high class but will not pass up a chance to make quick bucks.

I have seen and witnessed Passion girls at the Discos. One perticular girl I took to my room (because I did not like their room) stayed with me couple of hours. She also said all girls go home after work when asked if they go freelancing. Later I found her and her friends in classico. She just smiled. So I am sure these girls also will not pass up a chance to make bucks or meet other patrons.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1244092]It is more clear that you do not know Sosua. Passions is what it is; one stop shopping that has lots of good looking women. I stopped in there for 2-3 drinks the last 5 trips I made to Sosua and I understand the safety and convenience of the place. Some guys don't want to deal with the hardcore putas on the street, some guys, but not me; I love them. So I completely understand the concept. Find a hottie, play for an hour, and move on. Do I partake? Never have, but have been temped.

Sorry Mr. Gogo, but I had a couple of hot women that worked in CMP; including the Fireball, who is now freelancing. So I still like to check out the action in there, and it is about the same price as Passions.

Oh by the way Coalburner, Coolie High, DeepMmpactt, and I like going to Sosua, and none of us are from NY Shitty! Nor are we hip-hop wannabe's. We travel from the West coast of the US to enjoy one of our favorite spots in the world!

Your comment sounded racists to say the least.[/QUOTE]Yo Tom that be some funny shit seeing you in a white tee, rocking a gold chain, with half your ass showing, throwing money in the air screaming,"WESTSIDE"! LMAO.

I can picture the conversation to the chicas."Yeah baby, I'm in international player. The call me TomJackin aka The Sailor man. Now come hoist this dick in your mouth"! LOL.

You, Deep and I should start calling each other the WESTSIDE Connections. Next time down where going to crip walk on these hoes LOL

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1244092]Your comment sounded racists to say the least.[/QUOTE]For all we know,"Coalburner" might be an African-American. I think the hip hop wannabe-s traveling in groups with bling and what have yous, are a breed apart which is what he was trying to point out but I would not like to hazard a guess. After all, I have no other insights than the post.

I have not been to Passions in my one and half trips but having seen fishbowls in Asia all over, I really do not think much about Passions or whatever. I mean when I can go to the D. R towns with a 25% chance to hook up with a girl walking by and catching my fancy, why would I even bother? The fun is in the chase, along with the chagrins and disappointments that do occur. I would try it at home too, but fat chances for a middle-aged man even without a pot belly! And if there are other countries like the D. R, within a "short flying distance from the NorthEast", as Jaosousa puts it, I would like to hear of them so as to try those too! LOL.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1244270]For all we know,"Coalburner" might be an African-American. I think the hip hop wannabe-s traveling in groups with bling and what have yous, are a breed apart which is what he was trying to point out but I would not like to hazard a guess. After all, I have no other insights than the post.

I have not been to Passions in my one and half trips but having seen fishbowls in Asia all over, I really do not think much about Passions or whatever. I mean when I can go to the D. R towns with a 25% chance to hook up with a girl walking by and catching my fancy, why would I even bother? The fun is in the chase, along with the chagrins and disappointments that do occur. I would try it at home too, but fat chances for a middle-aged man even without a pot belly! And if there are other countries like the D. R, within a "short flying distance from the NorthEast", as Jaosousa puts it, I would like to hear of them so as to try those too! LOL.[/QUOTE]You say hip hoppers are a" Breed apart" which can be confusing because you didn't feel a need to elaborate on this comment. It can be negative or positive or it can be sneaky and underhanded. But not all Black guys are hip hoppers. Thats like saying all white guys are metal (heavy metal) heads.

There is a new breed of Black mongerers in big groups that are different from before. First let me say I have never felt unsafe around these guys, and I have NEVER seen them causing trouble. Before when Brazil was hot Sosua was able to fly under the radar. Plus Brazil had exotic looking women who sport fucked like champions. Back then there was several direct flights from NY, hence the influx of new mongerers from NYC. Those mongeres had their own style and walked around Sosua in packs during the day. They were part of the side show that was daytime Sosua. I enjoyed the show personally. They didn't know the language and usually would get the street tramps most seasoned mongerers wouldn't touch. They would over pay and loved the attention. The funny part was when you would see one of these guys get soft and break from his boys to get wifed up. They would give the kids some of their clothes and tip the street beggars. Then they would go to NY to save for the next six months to go to the DR to see that hot Dominicana that has been crying on the phone saying" I miss you Popi". They were just young guys living life and I miss them compared to the new breed.

Now that Brazil has been shut down we have more affluent travelers who were conditioned to the sport fucking scene. These are hardcore mongerers with no compassion for a poor girl. Also the slowdown in daytime activities in Sosua changed the attitudes of these guys. Now its a night party at Classicos to meet a girl to sport fuck for an hour. No GFE, no cultural expirience, no learning the language and no compassion for the girls. Anyone who breaks from the group and gets soft risks ribbing when back in the states. No walking around holding hands, no dinners, no getaway trips, just Classicos to score and bragging about how hardcore you were during breakfast.

My Uncles back in the day had their group but they were smooth and respectful. They (Frat brothers of my Uncles) stayed at Blackbeards, most learned Spanish, and they showed the girls a good time. No fast hardcore shit. When I first stumbled onto what they were doing in the DR I thought they were soft, but they were just cool dudes. They had girls everywhere. The Universities, Santiago, Santo Domingo and Sosua. They had all ranges from Business owners to resort girls to students. Whenever I would see them it would be three males and five chicas packed into a Honda CVR. Girls would be hanging out the windows. Then they would do a date with their main girls who were usually from Santiago. They would all get dressed up and go to dinner on Cabarete beach, then dancing, then romantic sex with their favoritas. One is a Judge, one owns 16 Mcdonalds, one played pro football, and one is a lawyer. My points is these were successful guys who were down to earth and enjoyed the country and the women, and the women loved them. But nowaday I ask the new mongerers' Where is the love"?

[QUOTE=Coalburner69;1243818]Clearly you don't know Sousa. African American hip-hop wannabe's from NYC keep Passions (and Sousa) on life support.[/QUOTE]Word to ya mutha. Westside All day everyday. Boyeeeee. Big ups Coolie high and Tomjackin for setting this BOY, straight, Coalburner, you do sound racist, I'm proud to be 100% African American, and no I am not from New York, Portland, Or All day Everyday, by brother Tomjackin (San Diego). Puta Romeo (Seattle) Coolie high (Las Vegas) , so check yourself, and go find somemore "coal to burn", but I got many friends from New York, and I am proud of, of them as well, but it aint" where your from" Its "where you're at"and stupid ass comments like this fuels our divide, Its all about dem pesos, here's 100 pesos, buy yourself a life. Sosua keeps breathing, due to its affordability, location, and best of all, some fine ass chicas, that one could only dream of, talking to, let alone bang the shit out of, Its like buying a ferrari, mazzarati, lamborghini, or a rolls royce bentley, all for 50 bucks, unheard of! So next time, get your MIND out of park! , when your MOUTH is in drive.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1243919]Clearly you don't know Passions or what really goes on behind the scenes. Peter doesn't rely on African Americans to keep his club going. Peter has iwealthy European customers from the internet, who pay handsomely for a discreet encounter with a hot Latina, who is not walking the streets. Some marry and move to Europe, some go to private parties that we would never be invited to, others retire and become WU novias.

I have never seen his girls parading into Classicos, but others say they have. Most Passion girls meet a certaiin criteria that benefits Peters friends. Compared to CMP (a rippoff) Peter runs a well respected business. Without Passions Sosua woulnt be the same in my opinion without it.

As far as. AA in Sosua, I have never seen them cause any trouble, so whats the problem?[/QUOTE]For a one sentence statement, your response seems far reaching and assumptive to say the very least. What I said is pretty self evident if one can view things objectively. Sadly, this capacity seems to be sorely lacking here.

I am in Sosua right now, rocking. At Helados Bon, I am eating a chocolate ice cone, will report of the taste of the ice cream later with details.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1243915]I would have expressed it more diplomatically, but the content is spot on as regards Passions. (Stretching it a bit to include all of Sosua, though). Strange to doubt Peter's business model, when he is one of the few gringo businessmen on the North Coast who knows what he is doing and knows his market. Not a place I would patronise, for the reasons Kman1 states, but Peter is not looking for tightwads like me to fill his bar-stools (though, to be fair, he couldn't be more hospitable on the rare occasions I do drop in).[/QUOTE]I never doubted his business model. Just calling it what it is.

[QUOTE=Coalburner69;1244384]For a one sentence statement, your response seems far reaching and assumptive to say the very least. What I said is pretty self evident if one can view things objectively. Sadly, this capacity seems to be sorely lacking here.[/QUOTE]Sorry to ruin your fancy, I'm not trying to be a tool. Please don't get your bloomers in a. Bunch, but I have never seen AA outnumber white guys in Passions. Most brothers I have taken there don't go back once they discover Classicos. Now if you said Classicos was mostly Black on the weekends then I would have agreed with you.

[quote=mr gogo; 1244283]you say hip hoppers are a" breed apart" which can be confusing because you didn't feel a need to elaborate on this comment. it can be negative or positive or it can be sneaky and underhanded. but not all black guys are hip hoppers. thats like saying all white guys are metal (heavy metal) heads.

there is a new breed of black mongerers in big groups that are different from before.

now that brazil has been shut down we have more affluent travelers who were conditioned to the sport fucking scene. these are hardcore mongerers with no compassion for a poor girl. also the slowdown in daytime activities in sosua changed the attitudes of these guys. now its a night party at classicos to meet a girl to sport fuck for an hour. no gfe, no cultural expirience, no learning the language and no compassion for the girls. anyone who breaks from the group and gets soft risks ribbing when back in the states. no walking around holding hands, no dinners, no getaway trips, just classicos to score and bragging about how hardcore you were during breakfast.[/quote]good post. to me it doesn't have anything much to do with race or what kind of music people prefer to listen to, but when i see a group of guys dressed like circus clowns wandering around, it seems to me that they are rather immature, and that one aspect of this is that their overwhelming need to seek the approval of their peers tends to make it difficult for them to fully appreciate authentic sexual or cultural experiences. i think that is probably the same in all ethnic groups, though you don't see a lot of younger caucasian americans in sosua, and certainly not traveling in mutual support groups. perhaps they go elsewhere. i know that a very large number of british single males go to thailand for their vacations, even though from a purely logistical point of view it would be cheaper and a shorter flight to the dr. maybe the same for new yourk wasps.

anyway, if gogo's theory is right, it is the other aa mongers who pay the price, because a girl who has had a bad experience with one of these "sport fuckers" is more likely to steer away from other guys who she thinks might be similar, regardless of whether her theoretical understanding of different types of mongers and their cultural background is correct. anyway, dressing properly, brushing your teeth, polishing your shoes, putting on clean underwear like your mother told you (because you never know what might happen and you sure don't want anyone seeing the skidmarks on your pants) , and speaking at least some spanish is generally the key to getting a positive experience. if sex just becomes a form of jerking off into condom placed inside a vagina, then most of the pleasure is missed.

[an american with a huge penis visited a london prostitute. as they undressed, she made polite conversation to put him at his ease and told him: "i went to the states myself for the first time last year."

"oh, where did you go" he asked.

"first i went to atlanta, then i flew on up to new yoooooooooooooork!!"]

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1244283]You say hip hoppers are a" Breed apart" which can be confusing.

There is a new breed of Black mongerers in big groups that are different from before.[/QUOTE]I loved reading about your (and your uncle's) experiences. These exchanges are what to me makes this forum interesting. A 360 degree panorama.

I am not familiar with the "black group" of the past that you are speaking of nor for that matter, the new hardcore types. Fact is, I do not know Sosua (and DR for that matter) except my first trip or so (even then I stayed away from the main street events) and I prefer to travel solo so I can soak in whatever I can. This is where reading yours and others' thoughts are a revealing experience per se, for me, not to speak of learning.

I am a dark skinned guy and primarily color blind. When I say a "breed apart", it just means that. Instead of codifying using color, language, caste, and what have you, in this case I have used "hip hop" as the qualifier. No value judgment. Besides, hip hop is predominantly but "not always" black even though the music does not do it for me, nor does heavy metal for that matter, LOL.

I would like to think, I am like you, in that I want the complete experience and not merely the heartless bragging right thing. Coming from where I come from, I know I came with nothing and will go with nothing so trying to enjoy the ride with fellow travelers for as long as it lasts.

P.S.: I certainly do not feel threatened by this group -loud and stand out as they might be....in this case, even more so, after all, we share a common passport and a certain cultural heritage.

AA's responsible for Sosua's demise? I doubt it, what about the shitty Hotel establishments with cockroaches running across the floor or A / C that doesn't work, not to mention the hard core putas. What about airfare into POP charging Rio fare prices or the cancellation of the Delta flights? What about the biggest economic downturn since the Great Depression? Na, blame the black dudes trying to have fun. If they were the hardened criminals that everyone thinks how do they leave the USA? Aren't they on parol or probation?

First, I want to point out that I am AA. Damn, the brothers still got to get most of the blame for everything wrong with the world. I guess nothing has truly changed when a skinny, disrespectful, little beatch can point her finger in the Prez face, but I'll leave that alone.

One can not predict the behavior of some solely based on material characteristics. Personally, I've never caused the slightest issue in the DR and I don't go looking for it. I never bring ANY of my jewelry or expensive watches with me. Some trips I've wifed up chicas and some I sportfucked. I can not be painted with broad strokes and won't let anybody box me in.

Like some said earlier, show me a place with similar quality and quantity with the same travel time and cost as the DR and I'm on it! A lot of us visit the DR because we (all mongers) can't find a replacement. I visit also to get a break from the racist bs that I experience daily in Chicago (most segregated city in the US).

Those hip hoppers that many of you trash are just trying to have a good time and emulate the lives of celebrities in the States. It is their break from reality. Why the fuck anyone cares about how they go about their business is beyond my understanding. As long as they are respectful and not causing havoc, nobody can judge or tell someone how to act.

The real threat to the DR these days is airfare. I used to be able to find flights for a little under $400. Now, all flights to POP are roughly $600 no matter what time of the year. That is some real bs.

AH2,

I agree with what you say. I am a caucasion from a racially integrated family so I am very sensitive to racial generalizations What is worse is when people make them and deny it like I have seen here.

I am also from Chicago which might be the most racially segrated city in the US, but I reside on the near north side where that is not the pattern. But as for hate you can find many places in the US that are much worse than Chicago-beleive me. Plus things are getting better. The Prez you refer to carried his city with 90% of the vote. That would have been inconceiveable 20 years ago.

But I love to leave Chicago because of the weather and the pseudo morally conservative attitude of the city. There are only 3 strip joints in the city proper and you can't touch the women.

But what I can't understand is why people with racial hang-ups would go to the DR. You can argue about the African ancestry of the people in the DR, but most of the woman would be considered black in the US. Race is nothing but a figment of your pigmentation. If I stayed in the DR long enough I would be as dark as most of the people there.

The thing I love about the DR is that it is a racially and culturally mixed nation. Thus hate isn't what it is in the US. I also find that many of the friends I make in the DR or CR where I also travel are of racial minorities, because I find them less likely to hate. But unfortunately many people from the US bring their hate with them, and then make some racist generalization and then of course deny that they hate.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1244386]I am in Sosua right now, rocking. At Helados Bon, I am eating a chocolate ice cone, will report of the taste of the ice cream later with details.[/QUOTE]I hate to interrupt the race relations public service announcements currently going on in the Sosua thread (it happens from time to time; guess we were long overdue) , but I am sure that I am not the only one that is interested in BO's (a Santo Domingo regular) thoughts on his first trip to Sosua.

Hopefully we haven't scared him off, lol.

(Prediction: there will be three or four more race-related posts immediately following this post. It will probably take another week or so, but eventually we will get back to talking about the only color that really matters: pink!)

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1244726]I hate to interrupt the race relations public service announcements currently going on in the Sosua thread (it happens from time to time; guess we were long overdue) , but I am sure that I am not the only one that is interested in BO's (a Santo Domingo regular) thoughts on his first trip to Sosua.

Hopefully we haven't scared him off, LOL.

(Prediction: there will be three or four more race-related posts immediately following this post. It will probably take another week or so, but eventually we will get back to talking about the only color that really matters: pink!) [/QUOTE]The only thing I will say is that I am having the time of my life. A detailed report coming soon. It was funny in Classicos yesterday but I finally picke up a chica in a place I learned today the name is El Flow. Tomorrow I have lined a 3some with two cuties also I was with them in el Flow. I have not enough leche for them today, a P Plata chica took all to herself. Later, I have to return to "the strip".

Headed for DR next week. First week at Blackbeards then on to Soshua. I want to do the best outback tour I can find and my question is would it be better (cheaper) to go from Blackbeards or Soshua. May do Oceanworld too and same question applies. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1244270]The fun is in the chase, along with the chagrins and disappointments that do occur.[/QUOTE]This statement is very true. On a recent trip a Sosua chica took me back to her apartment. I went to use her bathroom. As usual it was taking me a long time to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] because I'm uncomfortable going in someone else's bathroom. I heard a voice from outside the door. I thought the chica was on the phone or something. All of a sudden she bursts through the door and pushes me out of the way and jumps on the toilet. I look outside the door and there was a huge puddle on the floor where she pissed herself. At the time I was horrified. But now I think it's funny and a good story to tell my friends.

Did you still bang her.

[QUOTE=Dran Reb;1244968]This statement is very true. On a recent trip a Sosua chica took me back to her apartment. I went to use her bathroom. As usual it was taking me a long time to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] because I'm uncomfortable going in someone else's bathroom. I heard a voice from outside the door. I thought the chica was on the phone or something. All of a sudden she bursts through the door and pushes me out of the way and jumps on the toilet. I look outside the door and there was a huge puddle on the floor where she pissed herself. At the time I was horrified. But now I think it's funny and a good story to tell my friends.[/QUOTE]

I am planning an excursion to to Sousua. It will be my first. I have always wifed up in Santo Domingo with a Novia. So I am down for some sport fucking. What would you guys reccomend as a plan. I like having te GFE when ever posible.

Hey guys, I was daydreaming at work this afternoon about possibly taking a trip for a month or more down in the DR, most likely Sosua. I'd have to do it cheap, as I'm not a rich man, but I do have some resources.

I was thinking renting by the month, I could get a get a decent place. Would it be possible to find a place for a month at a time with A / C, TV, bed, kitchenette for $500 or less a month? It wouldn't have to be right by the strip or anything, but hopefully within walking distance.

I was thinking another $400 / month for food and incidentals, provided I cooked in most nights.

Then there are the chicas. I was thinking that if I cut back dramatically on quantity and a bit on quality from what I'd do on a shorter trip AND sharpen my negotiating skills: $500 / month. I'd probably look for a novia, if possible. Or at least a few chicas that work cheap for a "steady paycheck." Is that practical?

What do you guys think? I was going for roughly $1, 500 for a month, not including the plane ticket. Is that enough for what I'm looking for? Would there be a better city in the DR for this kind of thing?

This is just theoretical, so no need to burn up a lot of brain cells. If you have any thoughts, though, I'd love to hear them. I could string together a solid month to 5 weeks in the fall, so I'm just spit balling possibilities until then.

Thanks,

Henley

[QUOTE=OldKool;1245800]I am planning an excursion to to Sousua. It will be my first. I have always wifed up in Santo Domingo with a Novia. So I am down for some sport fucking. What would you guys reccomend as a plan. I like having te GFE when ever posible.[/QUOTE]Not sure if you can wife up in Sosua, but finding pussy is as easy as it gets. Not to discourage you, just a warning you will probably run into many undesirables at Sosua that you may want to keep at an arms length.

Here is what I wanted to share earlier but was not at liberty to do so. These guys, maybe not normal mongers, got into serious trouble, but could happen to anyone. I was there at NG the same time they were there when this happened. The taxi driver that drove them to the airport returned to tell NG staff and Lorenzo what happened.

[url]http://thehabibshow.com/tour/page15.html[/url]

B. T. W. Does anyone know if Ramon was the one that got arrested recently. Is the guy still around doing his thing? He is really annoying. Watch out.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1245800]I am planning an excursion to to Sousua. It will be my first. I have always wifed up in Santo Domingo with a Novia. So I am down for some sport fucking. What would you guys reccomend as a plan. I like having te GFE when ever posible.[/QUOTE]My recommendation is while you are grabbing the sport in town wait for that one. They are there. Hell I spent one long wseekend with one who had her own car and was grabbing other girls up for wild threesomes. Cost being nice buying her some clothes in town. Big money for them maybe 120 us for me and covering all other expenses and left her the cash I had before she blew me in airport parking lot. Keep your eyes open have fun and you will find her.

[QUOTE=Kman1; 1245854]Not sure if you can wife up in Sosua, but finding pussy is as easy as it gets. Not to discourage you, just a warning you will probably run into many undesirables at Sosua that you may want to keep at an arms length.

Here is what I wanted to share earlier but was not at liberty to do so. These guys, maybe not normal mongers, got into serious trouble, but could happen to anyone. I was there at NG the same time they were there when this happened. The taxi driver that drove them to the airport returned to tell NG staff and Lorenzo what happened.

[url]http://thehabibshow.com/tour/page15.html[/url]

B. T. W. Does anyone know if Ramon was the one that got arrested recently. Is the guy still around doing his thing? He is really annoying. Watch out.[/QUOTE]The link you provided is dead and it seems like the Web site is down. Do you remember roughly what happened?

[QUOTE=Frannie;1245891]The link you provided is dead and it seems like the Web site is down. [/QUOTE]Yeah Fam, Ramon is 100% pure *****. If You see him in Dominican Republic, Sosua. Stay the fuck away from his ***** ass. He will try to get you setup. I knew Ramon for about 6 years. I treated this ***** like family. When he would be broke I would wire him money, I literally gave this ***** the clothes off my back. But, one thing REAL hustlers knows YOU don't FUCK THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOUR ***** ASS. So, every time I come visit, he handles finding the the hoes gives them some $$ and keeps the rest. We had a good thing and he WAS happy. But, this year was different, he kept on complaining " I need more money","You CHEAP, I know you are Rich' Anyway, the day we left to the airport, Ramon came with us in the Taxi. A few miles out of town on the main street. 3 guys one with an AK-47 were standing on the street. They waved our taxi down and said they the police and wanted to check our passports. Then they took all our luggage from the taxi and put it in there ghetto ass car. WE have a complaint, you all are going to jail for shooting videos. I was thinking who the fuck would care and who would say anything. All the females were cool with me and there was not one ***** mad. Ramon was acting to cool, like he wasnt surprised and why they werent arresting snitch ass ramon. We even asked them can we see the complaint. They gave us some Bullshit paper, which had none of our names on it and said nothing about us. So, these dominican police pulled us over to the side of a cemetery and they took my laptop and camcorder any they still holding their AK-47 at us. Ramon was interpreting for us and said we going to have to give them some $$$ or we all fucked. If you haven't heard about how corrupt and violent Dominican police are just google them. I was broke, I didn't even have a dollar to my name. But, thank fully one of my other homies made money gambling and so he paid these punk ass police. They gave me back my laptop and camcorder and let us go. The shit happends so fast and we didn't have time to think until we got in the airport. It took me30 minutes to realize we were setup by Ramon and it was confirmed when we got back in the states. So, Ramon you *****, I hope KARMA catches up to your ass and you get what you deserve. I made this page dedicated soley to you. YOU PUNK *****.

[QUOTE=Kman1;1245854]Not sure if you can wife up in Sosua, but finding pussy is as easy as it gets. Not to discourage you, just a warning you will probably run into many undesirables at Sosua that you may want to keep at an arms length.[/QUOTE]Habib guy on his webpage says he was arrested at the Del Rey in Costa Rica and spent the night in jail (he says for not having his passport with him, when there was a raid on the Del Rey).

[quote=hillbilly69;1245893]yeah fam, ramon is 100% pure *****. if you see him in dominican republic, sosua. stay the fuck away from his ***** ass. he will try to get you setup. i knew ramon for about 6 years. i treated this ***** like family. when he would be broke i would wire him money, i literally gave this ***** the clothes off my back. but, one thing real hustlers knows you don't fuck the hand that feeds your ***** ass. so, every time i come visit, he handles finding the the hoes gives them some $$ and keeps the rest. we had a good thing and he was happy. but, this year was different, he kept on complaining " i need more money","you cheap, i know you are rich' anyway, the day we left to the airport, ramon came with us in the taxi. a few miles out of town on the main street. 3 guys one with an ak-47 were standing on the street. they waved our taxi down and said they the police and wanted to check our passports. then they took all our luggage from the taxi and put it in there ghetto ass car. we have a complaint, you all are going to jail for shooting videos. i was thinking who the fuck would care and who would say anything. all the females were cool with me and there was not one ***** mad. ramon was acting to cool, like he wasnt surprised and why they werent arresting snitch ass ramon. we even asked them can we see the complaint. they gave us some bullshit paper, which had none of our names on it and said nothing about us. so, these dominican police pulled us over to the side of a cemetery and they took my laptop and camcorder any they still holding their ak-47 at us. ramon was interpreting for us and said we going to have to give them some $$$ or we all fucked. if you haven't heard about how corrupt and violent dominican police are just google them. i was broke, i didn't even have a dollar to my name. but, thank fully one of my other homies made money gambling and so he paid these punk ass police. they gave me back my laptop and camcorder and let us go. the shit happends so fast and we didn't have time to think until we got in the airport. it took me30 minutes to realize we were setup by ramon and it was confirmed when we got back in the states. so, ramon you *****, i hope karma catches up to your ass and you get what you deserve. i made this page dedicated soley to you. you punk *****.[/quote]hillbilly69, you almost had me thinking that you where habib until i clicked on the link to the website and saw the exact same wording. got to use those quotes man, lol. you don't seem like someone stupid enough to allow yourself to be extorted like that. but that habib guy was just asking for it. and given that he probably has no model releases for any of those girls it's just as easy for the police/dominican government to claim that all the women in his videos are ****. he'll probably be extorted every time he steps foot on the island.

[quote=savepros321;1245967]hillbilly69, you almost had me thinking that you where habib until i clicked on the link to the website and saw the exact same wording. got to use those quotes man, lol. you don't seem like someone stupid enough to allow yourself to be extorted like that. but that habib guy was just asking for it. and given that he probably has no model releases for any of those girls it's just as easy for the police/dominican government to claim that all the women in his videos are ****. he'll probably be extorted every time he steps foot on the island.[/quote]why was ramon riding to the airport with these guys especially when the guy say he didn't have a dollar to his name? why did they give back the laptop and camcorder? habib couldn't complain because he would have had to incriminate himself.

these guys should have known they were asking for trouble. i guess he won't be showing his face in the dr anymore. i know ramon and he is always respectful, but i never hang out with him.

anyone heard from grandnash? check in homie and let everyone know you're okay. a few people are worried about you.

You need a novia. That will save you big on pussy and posible cook and shop for you. Posible take bus trips to other places to sport fuck. Most towns have cabanas. 1500 is a start but buying the sex is the wild card. I think you can build relation ships with different chicas.

[QUOTE=Henley100; 1245839]Hey guys, I was daydreaming at work this afternoon about possibly taking a trip for a month or more down in the DR, most likely Sosua. I'd have to do it cheap, as I'm not a rich man, but I do have some resources.

I was thinking renting by the month, I could get a get a decent place. Would it be possible to find a place for a month at a time with A / C, TV, bed, kitchenette for $500 or less a month? It wouldn't have to be right by the strip or anything, but hopefully within walking distance.

I was thinking another $400 / month for food and incidentals, provided I cooked in most nights.

Then there are the chicas. I was thinking that if I cut back dramatically on quantity and a bit on quality from what I'd do on a shorter trip AND sharpen my negotiating skills: $500 / month. I'd probably look for a novia, if possible. Or at least a few chicas that work cheap for a "steady paycheck." Is that practical?

What do you guys think? I was going for roughly $1, 500 for a month, not including the plane ticket. Is that enough for what I'm looking for? Would there be a better city in the DR for this kind of thing?

This is just theoretical, so no need to burn up a lot of brain cells. If you have any thoughts, though, I'd love to hear them. I could string together a solid month to 5 weeks in the fall, so I'm just spit balling possibilities until then.

Thanks,

Henley[/QUOTE]

[quote=savepros321;1245967]hillbilly69, you almost had me thinking that you where habib until i clicked on the link to the website and saw the exact same wording. got to use those quotes man, lol. you don't seem like someone stupid enough to allow yourself to be extorted like that. but that habib guy was just asking for it. and given that he probably has no model releases for any of those girls it's just as easy for the police/dominican government to claim that all the women in his videos are ****. he'll probably be extorted every time he steps foot on the island.[/quote]funny no it wasn't me, the most drama i usually see is wingmen thinking they met a non pro , then i see them later all teary eyed after payment was made and i ask them is the wedding off now? lol

but it is obvious this guys mistakes,

no1 wu novio? the dudes sent money to a guy who had his real name as the sender. thats gay!

no 2 befriending a dominican or haitian tout, nothing good is coming from that.

no3 telling someone your rich, that is never ever going to turn out good whether it is a expat, wingman or a girl.

no4 giving someone your travel information whether it is arrival or departure let alone riding with a tout wtf?

as far as the video stuff it would be speculation but nudie pics have sent many folks to foreign prisons.

notice the police would never be able to pull this stunt off at the new garden so they pinched them where they could get away with it.

Hi everyone,

Should be back in about 4 weeks, and was searching the net for restaurants since during my previous visit finding good food proved difficoult.

The following names have come up more than once with good reviews: any brother dined there?

- La Finca.
- Marua Mai.
- Thai restaurant Chilli.
- Casa Veintiuno.


Thanks,

Ryo

[QUOTE=Henley100; 1245839]I was thinking renting by the month, I could get a get a decent place. Would it be possible to find a place for a month at a time with A / C, TV, bed, kitchenette for $500 or less a month? It wouldn't have to be right by the strip or anything, but hopefully within walking distance.

I was thinking another $400 / month for food and incidentals, provided I cooked in most nights.[/QUOTE]Yes, you could get an apartment for that price, but probably not with A / C included. However I have stayed in Sosua in July and August with only ceiling fans and it was OK for me. You are talking about 500 pesos a day for food. That is very easily doable if you cook in, but if you have a novia, there will be a lot of meals for two which could add up. But it can be done. You can, for example buy a roasted chicken for about $5, feed two people off it, then make soup for the next day. Bread is cheap-baguette for 30 pesos, rice is cheap, beans are cheap. You can buy 5 gallons of drinking water for less than a dollar and drink tea or coffee, or buy fruit juice concentrates to mix with water. Eggs are cheap. Bacon and pork are cheap. Fruit is cheap in season. I bought a nice pineapple today for 29 pesos, and papaya is cheap too, and mangos and avocados in season. You can buy precooked takeout meals Dominican style for about $125 pesos. The place up by the Metro bus station has an excellent huge burrito for 100 pesos. And then you can always live on plantains. Yes, you could get a nice novia for a reasonable price. PM me if you want a couple of ideas.

[QUOTE=Ryo Saeba; 1246061]Hi everyone,

Should be back in about 4 weeks, and was searching the net for restaurants since during my previous visit finding good food proved difficoult.

The following names have come up more than once with good reviews: any brother dined there?

- La Finca.

- Marua Mai.

- Thai restaurant Chilli.

- Casa Veintiuno.

Thanks,

Ryo[/QUOTE]- La Finca. Dominican style food. Cheap. Nothing special. There are other places that have the same. Goat is on the menu.

- Morua Mai. Good quality classical restaurant dishes, steaks, fish, salads. Seafood paella. White tablecloth service. Rather expensive.

- Thai restaurant Chilli. Don't know. Think it is up the hill at La Mulata.

- Casa Veintiuno. Don't know it.

There are plenty of good Italian restaurants such as Bologna, Avalon, Elefante Rosso, the new pizza place opposite Elefante, but maybe you don't like Italian. Mofongo, next to the Town Hall is an excellent restaurant that is little known. Schnitzel Paradise has some good dishes. Tipico Alberto has some good dishes like burritos. Baileys is another good place for steaks, salad bar, etc. Also highly recommended is the Tropical Cafe on the main highway near Western Union, which has a buffet cafeteria service for lunch time, and then an a la carte menu at night. Casa Valeria restaurant is good also. If you go up past the Hotel Europa on Pedro Clissante, on your left is a small cafe restaurant with clear plastic sheeting for when it rains that I don't remember the name of next to the medical clinic that has quite good food at reasonable prices and with dinners you get a free soup and a glass of Sambuca. Across from Club Residential next to CMP club is the New Cafe where the guy will make you an excellent hamburger and various steaks and fish. Again not expensive. Both of the last mentioned have stellar breakfasts. On the corner of Alejando Martinez and Calle Ayntamiento is a small fish restaurant called La Sirena (The Mermaid) which is good for takeouts for a whole fish, or pizza, or some other items.

The ice cream parlor next to Metro bus station is better than the Bon Helados on the corner near New Garden.

[QUOTE=Henley100;1245839]Would there be a better city in the DR for this kind of thing?[/QUOTE]Yes, all of them. Sosua is the most expensive town to live in the DR. Let me correct that. El Batey (the gringo half) is the most expensive town to live in the DR. Los Charamicos (the Dominican half of Sosua) is like most other Dominican towns and would be much cheaper to live in.

But that brings up one vital issue that you have not mentioned. What's your Spanish like? If you live away from tourist areas your costs will plummet, but it would be a hard life living on the cheap without good Spanish.

I wouldn't fancy living in El Batey on your budget. It's not much fun having to watch every peso when your are surrounded by guys spending money like there is no tomorrow. These sort of plans get aired two or three times a year on various boards and never seem to work out as the guy hoped. They either run out of money and go home early, or they are dipping into their emergency backup fund when only a quarter way through their stay.

As a compromise, you might consider living in Puerto Plata where I live for precisely those reasons. There are cheaper areas to live but you also have gringo communities in the same city if you need support.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1246085]As a compromise, you might consider living in Puerto Plata where I live for precisely those reasons. There are cheaper areas to live but you also have gringo communities in the same city if you need support.[/QUOTE]Me too now, for the same reasons, but I did stay in Sosua for 4 months on this kind of budget. Actually I now prefer Puerto Plata, but you are right, because if a guy hangs around the prostitution bars, he will spend a lot of money, and although one of the good things about Sosua is that you have many restaurants within walking distance, if you are not going to use them, then that advantage is meaningless and you might as well relocate. You may be able to get an apartment in Puerto Plata at or very close to the beach near many facilities within the proposed budget.

[QUOTE=Henley100;1245839]I was thinking renting by the month, I could get a get a decent place. Would it be possible to find a place for a month at a time with A / C, TV, bed, kitchenette for $500 or less a month?[/QUOTE]The Palms up the hill, I got a friend that stays there for 400 month studio with A / C and Wi / fi.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1246085]Yes, all of them. Sosua is the most expensive town to live in the DR. Let me correct that. El Batey (the gringo half) is the most expensive town to live in the DR.[/QUOTE]This is also true, and real estate in Sosua is significantly more expensive, which somewhat knocks on the head the notion that Sosua is seen by expatriates as an open sewer.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1246093]This is also true, and real estate in Sosua is significantly more expensive, which somewhat knocks on the head the notion that Sosua is seen by expatriates as an open sewer.[/QUOTE]It's because of the beach and proximity to the airport, that keeps Sosua in the game. Plus a lot of questionable money is being invested there. I've been trying to sell my condo in Costambar Puerto Plata for the last year, and no takers and I've lowered the price twice.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1246085]But that brings up one vital issue that you have not mentioned. What's your Spanish like? If you live away from tourist areas your costs will plummet, but it would be a hard life living on the cheap without good Spanish.

As a compromise, you might consider living in Puerto Plata where I live for precisely those reasons. There are cheaper areas to live but you also have gringo communities in the same city if you need support.[/QUOTE]My Spanish is very limited, unfortunately. I can ask for my bill, the bathroom, blow jobs without condoms, etc. But not much more. Last week, I got a copy of Rosetta Stone: Latin America 1-5, and plan on being done with it before I go. But I know that won't be enough to be truly proficient. One of the reasons I'd like a longer visit would be to pick up more of the language in an immersive environment. I'm hoping to one day be able to spend a lot of time down there, and I realize that knowing the language is important.

You're right, though. My first extended trip down there should be to Sosua. Since it will only be my second time down there, it's probably better anyway if I stick with the one place I know. Once I'm more comfortable with my Spanish and the DR in general, I can do an extended stay in Puerto Plata. I'll just have to be careful with the chica intake. Or adjust my expenditures a bit, something I can swing, but would rather not.

Thanks for all the ideas, both general and specific. I'm going to do this for sure later this year, so I'll probably put up another post for some veteran help. I appreciate it. Henley

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1245984]Why was Ramon riding to the airport with these guys especially when the guy say he didn't have a dollar to his name? Why did they give back the laptop and camcorder? Habib couldn't complain because he would have had to incriminate himself.

These guys should have known they were asking for trouble. I guess he won't be showing his face in the DR anymore. I know Ramon and he is always respectful, but I never hang out with him.

Anyone heard from Grandnash? Check in homie and let everyone know you're okay. A few people are worried about you.[/QUOTE]Respectful? Ramon? What is respectable about him or what he does? He is loud, obnoxious and an annoying leach. NG / Lorenzo never let him in the hotel. But he associates so close with habib & co that he was signed in as a guest. Thats also why he was in the taxi to the airport and that greatly helped him with the setup so the mafia politur could identify the vehicle and know the time of arrival. You guys a right, the politur would not dare to come to NG or the main drag since they know what they are upto. I do believe waivers are signed in every case if not the site couldn't be in business for so long in the U.S. What has happened here I think is Ramon felt he was being used and not getting paid enough, he has acted in some the videos himself and also he is the source to convince chicas to sign the waiver and agree to being filmed. He decided it was time and found the right people for a setup.

Also the problem is shooting porn is not welcome in DR and for that matter anywhere else esp. For commerical reasons and by some freelance / non corporation. There is nothing protecting you just because you have the waivers in the DR, that too in the middle of nowhere beside a highway with the language barrier etc. The chicas family can make a complaint if they know or seen the video on the internet and it will be acted upon (of course for extortion purposes.).

[QUOTE=Kman1; 1246143]Respectful? Ramon? What is respectable about him or what he does? He is loud, obnoxious and an annoying leach. NG / Lorenzo never let him in the hotel. But he associates so close with habib & co that he was signed in as a guest. Thats also why he was in the taxi to the airport and that greatly helped him with the setup so the mafia politur could identify the vehicle and know the time of arrival. You guys a right, the politur would not dare to come to NG or the main drag since they know what they are upto. I do believe waivers are signed in every case if not the site couldn't be in business for so long in the US. What has happened here I think is Ramon felt he was being used and not getting paid enough, he has acted in some the videos himself and also he is the source to convince chicas to sign the waiver and agree to being filmed. He decided it was time and found the right people for a setup.

Also the problem is shooting porn is not welcome in DR and for that matter anywhere else esp. For commerical reasons and by some freelance / non corporation. There is nothing protecting you just because you have the waivers in the DR, that too in the middle of nowhere beside a highway with the language barrier etc. The chicas family can make a complaint if they know or seen the video on the internet and it will be acted upon (of course for extortion purposes.).[/QUOTE]I respect what you are saying, but I see Ramon almost every trip and he gives me a greeting and keeps on walking. But I don't hang with him. It would be easy for me to pile on, but I got to call it as I see it.

Respectfully yours.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1246079]- La Finca. Dominican style food. Cheap. Nothing special. There are other places that have the same. Goat is on the menu.[/quote]I go once every trip to La Finca and get the goat stew, which comes with salad and white rice. I also get get a glass of wine to go with. Its pretty good but not exactly cheap, it costs around 1000 pesos for both.

This is the place at the corner of the street where NG is and street where Baileys is.

I arrived to Sosua, first time ever in Sosua on Friday by 3:40 pm. I took a taxi from Hotel La Morada in Gazcue to the Metro Buses Station on Churchill. 150 pesos. The ticket to Sosua cost $380 pesos which with a rate of 38. 75 pesos per dollar I got at Franks equals to $9. 81 dollars. [url]http://www.metroserviciosturisticos.com/rutas_horarios.html[/url] A girl from Chile sat next to me, pretty lady. She was happy because she got a deal on an art piece, a paint she bought in Mercado Modelo. She paid $100 US for'$300' paint. Did she really pay $100 for$25 paint? Anyway, she was a nice next seat neighbor during most of my trip. The bus stopped in Santiago after 2 hours. A 10 minute wait and next stop: Puerto Plata. We arrived to Puerto Plata near 3:00 pm and changed buses there and half an hour later I arrived to Sosua. Thanks to Jao for the Sosua bus map, Metro station is just in the entrance of El Batey area in the corner of Clisante and Rosen. I was going to stay at hotel El Rancho, $40 per day, almost at the end of the street the Metro bus station is. It was barely a five minute walk. Nobody offered me anything during my walk which was a pleasant surprise. My first impression of Sosua is that the town is a better Boca Chica, both small towns but Sosua is a lot cleaner and better organized.

My $40 / day room for 2 days was offered to a guy who wanted it for 20 days but they gave me a $55 room for $40. Easy check in, even a cat tried to help me with my bags. They Chihuahua sleeping on one of the lobby chairs didn't care about me. The room was clean with a big parrot drawing on the wall. It has a small a / see, a 13 inch TV, a ceiling fan, a mini fridge, a double bed and a safe inside the closet. The room has a nice balcony. Everything worked as expected during my stay. I got ready to hit the town by 4:00 pm.

I walked out the hotel and the first phrase I heard was 'Hello, massage'. There is a 'normal' massage place / beauty in front of the hotel. I said no while looking up to hotel Casa Cayena where a white guy was entering to a room with a local pretty chica. Enjoy! I walked to the end of the street where there is a pretty nice park with a beautiful and clean beach, playa Amalia I believe is the name. There are a couple of nice apartment buildings near the park. I walked back; I was hungry and ready for lunch. Four or five of Hello, massages during my walk and a couple of 'change? ' and 'moto taxi sir? 'and I decided to enter to Rockys. Ana, a pretty chica with a nice smile served me. I was not sure what to eat, The Ludacris half pound hamburger, the 'like' KFC chicken or their world famous ribs? I chose the chicken with fries and a coke with a small Presidente as an appetizer. The beer was ice cold, nice! The chicken was nothing similar to KFC chicken but it was good. The cost of the service was similar to $10 US. During my lunch I was looking to the street the people walking up and down the street. A couple of girls blowed kisses to me, some waved their hands to me. Hello, massage? I do not know, but I am beginning to believe that my name is massage instead of boricuaonline.

Well, I am ready for action. I decided to call a Badoo contact 23 yr. Old, she told me yes she can visit me. Nice. So while I waited for her I decided to take a walk to the public beach. A few chicas said Hello, papi to me, some pretty some ugly but I kept walking with a grande Presidente light on hand. I walked the beach almost to the other side, over a hundred of beach shacks selling beer, food, $300 dollars paintings (LOL) and other things. Some vendors offered me their menus or to take a seat at a chaise lounge, but I never felt harassed. I just said no and keep walking. Another beer to fuel my walk, I can either walk regular or light. I tried to find the main area where the action is; in fact I walked by the area a couple of times without knowing it, the area look like a normal area. There is even an elementary school in puta central area. I infer after the kids graduate from elementary they join the work world, the girls as prostitutes or Hello, massage chicas or as beauticians, the guys as motoconcho taxi drivers. If they get a master degree in finance they can become' change? ' guys. My chica called and she was near. I waited for her in front of Terralinda, she arrived in a motoconcho. She was a nice chica but looked prettier in pictures. She is an intelligent chica, a student of UTESA in Santo Domingo. She asked me if she was not as I expected since she noticed an expression on my face. I replied you are right, you look cuter. She smiled and we walked to the hotel. She left her I'd at the lobby and we walked upstairs. We spent two hours chatting in the balcony, sharing a beer, knowing each other better. She played a like trivia game with me and depending of my answers the meaning was something related to love and relationships. I took advantage of the answers to get closer to her. Five minutes later we were kissing with passion. I sit her over me and continued the hugs and kisses. I began to kiss over her cleavage and 2 minutes later she was topless and I was kissing her nice be cup firm tits with hard nipples. I lifted her to the bed. I ate her completely until her orgasm; she did the same to me. We had sex in different positions and I finished while she was riding over me. I removed my condom; she went to the bath and returned to the bed hugging me with her eyes closed. We spent the next 30 minutes next to each other, talking and kissing. It was girlfriend experience as it best. She put her clothes on because it was time to leave. It took like an hour to say good bye, kissing and hugging a lot. We agreed on to see each other again next day. She does not request for any money, I just gave her 200 pesos for motoconcho and public bus to Puerto Plata. I am sure she will bring a sad story next day. A concho driver near the hotel took her to the bus station to Puerto Plata. Ahh, this is great.

I was hungry again and out to Rockys again. Another $80 pesos small beer, this time I chose the Ludacris burger with its 8oz. Of meat. In fact the burger is really a 2/3 pounder or 10. 66 oz but looks bigger. It tastes good. Ana was still there. I asked her for the location of Classicos. She told me it is around the corner. I walked again to my hotel.

I turned on my laptop, no in room wi fi. There is wifi around the bar area. I chatted with one of the mongers on FB and he told me: 'what are you doing in your hotel? Go to Clasicos and grab some ass... NOW! ' So I decided to go to Clasicos. I walked to the area and took a right on Dr. Rosen to Pedro Clisante. It was like a party at both sides of the street, lots of people there, cute chicas, ugly chicas. I received like a dozen of hellos before reaching the place I believed was Clasicos. In fact it was Clasicos. A large line to enter. 200 pesos which can be used to get a drink. I paid and got upstairs. The place was packed. There were hundreds of people here. And hundreds of them putas. I am almost sure that I was in the place with most putas in the entire Caribbean. And it was nice because I liked the looks of more than half of them. I walked around and parked near the bathroom entrance. Girls were looking and smiling to me. I decided to go to a petite one that was near a column and begin to chat / hug her body. It was funny. Do you want to fucki fucki sucki sucki papi? She asked thinking that I do not talk Spanish? 'Tu lo que quiere es singar' I replied. She laughed and promised to drink my cum. I hugged her tits and ass, she let me suck a nipple. I asked if she wanted a beer and she said yes. Instead of bringing her a drink I walked to the opposite site of the disco where she can't see me and began chatting with another chica. I did the same game to a girl with huge tits. I told her that my hotel bed has very uncomfortable pillows and that I wanted to sample her tits; she let me put my head over her cleavage and I also suck them. They smelled nice; she had some fruity odor body cream, Altagracia's Secret brand I believe. I offered her a drink, she accepted but again I moved away, this time near a third bar, the place has 3 bars. I played the same game, this time with a girl in a white dress with V cleavage down to her belly, no bra on. I put my hands over her tits down her dress and asked how much for them? 1500 pesos was her price. She told me to go to my room to 'singar rico'. I told her a girl took all my leche earlier. She offered me a massage, 'bien rico papi'. I offered her a drink, she said yes to me but I left the place. Funny! If I were with a fellow monger the game would be more fun.

I walked east and stopped in front of a place I later learned it was El Flow. A petite cute chica approached me, her name was Michelle. I liked how she looks with her Jordan's, jean shorts and a shirt. She offered her services and asked for 1500. I told her I had only 1200 and she said ok. We agreed on a massage, kissing and sex. She left her cedula and we went to the room. She went to the bathroom and went out naked. Nice petite body with a little with a little belly, she was pregnant of her third baby 3 months ago. She has her skin darker in some parts of her arms, but no scars; they were burned in some accident. She kissed me, gave me a nice BBBJ and we fucked in several positions. I finished and she moved away in seconds to put her clothes on. I told her 'eh eh eh you owe me something'. She complained but gave me a massage, not good but I can't complain. The girl has a tattoo with the name of her kids. I am not sure if she is 20 or 22, but I do not doubt she will tattoo more names in the future. I took her downstairs to the lobby. At that time. 2 am and after 36 hours of landing on the DR, I have fucked 4 chicas. 2 in Santo Domingo and 2 in Sosua. Sosua, Adult Disney the first night was great. Day 2 coming soon: Badoo chica again and another Michelle (Ana) , the poison girls convention, boricuaonline search for KFC, the pretty American girl and more.

[QUOTE=Kman1; 1246149]I go once every trip to La Finca and get the goat stew, which comes with salad and white rice. I also get get a glass of wine to go with. Its pretty good but not exactly cheap, it costs around 1000 pesos for both.

This is the place at the corner of the street where NG is and street where Baileys is.[/QUOTE]Sorry, am confusing it with another restaurant with similar name. La Finca is an excellent restaurant and I had the goat stew with mango sauce there (but not cheap). Very nice people. It is just across the road from Bailey's. The other restaurant is in Pedro Clissante and I think it is called El Cultivo. It is next to the Rumba bar and also serves goat stew at a lower price but not as good. In Spanish "La Finca" means "the farm" and "El Cultivo" means "the plantation".

The other restaurant I could not remember the name of near Club Residential is La Costera.

Here is a link to a full list of bars and restaurants in Sosua. However it does not include all the Dominican and Creole eateries, so although the list is long, it is not exhaustive. However it gives an idea of the incredible number of restaurants nearly all of which are within easy walking distance of the town center.

[url]http://www.sosuatoday.com/bars-restaurants/[/url]

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1246233]Sorry, am confusing it with another restaurant with similar name. La Finca is an excellent restaurant and I had the goat stew with mango sauce there (but not cheap). Very nice people. It is just across the road from Bailey's. The other restaurant is in Pedro Clissante and I think it is called El Cultivo. It is next to the Rumba bar and also serves goat stew at a lower price but not as good. In Spanish "La Finca" means "the farm" and "El Cultivo" means "the plantation".

The other restaurant I could not remember the name of near Club Residential is La Costera.

Here is a link to a full list of bars and restaurants in Sosua. However it does not include all the Dominican and Creole eateries, so although the list is long, it is not exhaustive. However it gives an idea of the incredible number of restaurants nearly all of which are within easy walking distance of the town center.

[url]http://www.sosuatoday.com/bars-restaurants/[/url][/QUOTE]The best is baileys god from breakfast to dinner

[QUOTE=Mariomarengo;1246258]The best is baileys god from breakfast to dinner[/QUOTE]Very expensive, bad food and plenty of gay waiters is BOLOGNA don't go there not truly italian food but too much expensive

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1246092]The Palms up the hill, I got a friend that stays there for 400 month studio with A / C and Wi / fi.[/QUOTE]That would be a good price, but I am guessing your friend has got it on a long lease or on a time-share basis? The OP is only coming for one month.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline; 1246155]I arrived to Sosua, first time ever in Sosua on Friday by 3:40 pm.

I walked out the hotel and the first phrase I heard was 'Hello, massage'. Hard nipples. I lifted her to the bed. In fact it was Clasicos. Have fucked 4 chicas. Day 2 coming soon.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you are having a good time. Glad you were able to find the discotheque.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1246285]That would be a good price, but I am guessing your friend has got it on a long lease or on a time-share basis? The OP is only coming for one month.[/QUOTE]Does the Palms still have the no local chicas in the pool policy, that goes along with the old white sea hags who are allowed to be in the pool with their local boy toys?

I was never disallowed from using the pool with local women at the tradewinds. Tradewinds was more tolerant of noise as well. Unless the Palms has changed their intolerant ways, I would not recommend the Palms (unless using a pool was not needed and no noise would ever emanate from an apartment, probably heavy moaning coming from a local woman in the bedroom would probably cause some people to complain at the Palms).

[QUOTE=Frannie;1246292]Sounds like you are having a good time. Glad you were able to find the discotheque.[/QUOTE]Discotheque in Sosua? Where? Are you referring to Classicos? An overcrowded bar with bad air conditioning the times I was there. Does Classicos still use the fake, miniature, laminated play money, instead of giving real money (when you buy a drink using your real Dominican money)? Isn't Classicos owned by an Italian guy who is the primary suspect in the murder of an American lawyer who was also a US Army veteran who served in Vietnam (who was gun downed in his house in Sosua)? [url]http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2010/06/tarlows_slaying_raises_questio.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1246285]That would be a good price, but I am guessing your friend has got it on a long lease or on a time-share basis? The OP is only coming for one month.[/QUOTE]He is your buddy the Scott! He is there too much if you ask me, but repeat a customer. Las Canas or Tradewinds would be another option.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline; 1246155]I walked out the hotel and the first phrase I heard was 'Hello, massage'. I was hungry and ready for lunch. Four or five of Hello, massages during my walk and a couple of 'change? ' and 'moto taxi sir? During my lunch I was looking to the street the people walking up and down the street. A couple of girls blowed kisses to me, some waved their hands to me. Hello, massage? I do not know, but I am beginning to believe that my name is massage instead of boricuaonline.

2 am and after 36 hours of landing on the DR, I have fucked 4 chicas. 2 in Santo Domingo and 2 in Sosua. Sosua, Adult Disney the first night was great.[/QUOTE]Funny post, thanks.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1246155]At that time. 2 am and after 36 hours of landing on the DR, I have fucked 4 chicas. 2 in Santo Domingo and 2 in Sosua. Sosua, Adult Disney the first night was great. Day 2 coming soon: Badoo chica again and another Michelle (Ana) , the poison girls convention, boricuaonline search for KFC, the pretty American girl and more.[/QUOTE]Looks like you hit the ground (in Sosua) running. Thanks for the report!

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1246146]I respect what you are saying, but I see Ramon almost every trip and he gives me a greeting and keeps on walking. But I don't hang with him. It would be easy for me to pile on, but I got to call it as I see it.

Respectfully yours.[/QUOTE]That is really good for you Mr Gogo. And I guess that is the case for most mongers who just mind their own business. I met Habib a long time ago during my first trip in DR and in the process Ramon got to know me too and ever since I have hard time shaking him off. He was just a little nuisance, at times helpful for translating a little, it was like I had to keep throwing the dog a bone, but after what just happened, its a shocker. Although, you could look at it as a duel between hustlers. Habib payed the price trying to hustle a hustler.

Lesson. Never take any of them for granted.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1246155]I arrived to Sosua, first time ever in Sosua on Friday by 3:40 pm. I took a taxi from Hotel La Morada in Gazcue to the Metro Buses . the pretty American girl and more.[/QUOTE]Nice report Boricua. The benefits of speakie speakie. Priceless. How are the streets looking? Check out La passion and tell us what you think.

[QUOTE=Kman1; 1245854]Not sure if you can wife up in Sosua, but finding pussy is as easy as it gets. Not to discourage you, just a warning you will probably run into many undesirables at Sosua that you may want to keep at an arms length.

Here is what I wanted to share earlier but was not at liberty to do so. These guys, maybe not normal mongers, got into serious trouble, but could happen to anyone. I was there at NG the same time they were there when this happened. The taxi driver that drove them to the airport returned to tell NG staff and Lorenzo what happened.

[url]http://thehabibshow.com/tour/page15.html[/url]

B. T. W. Does anyone know if Ramon was the one that got arrested recently. Is the guy still around doing his thing? He is really annoying. Watch out.[/QUOTE]Is Raymond the bald dude on the right? If so I know this guy and agree he can be annoying and is ubiquitous. You are surely better off if you do not know him and more importantly."HE DOES NOT KNOW YOU"

[QUOTE=Kman1; 1246482]That is really good for you Mr Gogo. And I guess that is the case for most mongers who just mind their own business. I met Habib a long time ago during my first trip in DR and in the process Ramon got to know me too and ever since I have hard time shaking him off. He was just a little nuisance, at times helpful for translating a little, it was like I had to keep throwing the dog a bone, but after what just happened, its a shocker. Although, you could look at it as a duel between hustlers. Habib payed the price trying to hustle a hustler.

Lesson. Never take any of them for granted.[/QUOTE]Nooo! My friend the lesson is just say NO, or no grasia, estoy tranquillo. I can't take sides and have feelings when predator meets predator. These guys don't strong arm people, we choose to deal with them. Some folks are lazy and want "Ordered pussy" when they can do it for themselves in Sosua, and others want to exploit the situation and need an accomplice. Habib developed a "comfort zone" where he thought he was untouchable, even though he was dirty. It was a power play by all sides, but its as you say" Hustler meets hustler".

I have a bit of an odd question. I will be visiting Sosua next week for a few days and am curious about how openminded the people there are. I have Tourettes Syndrome, and while cursing compulsively is not one of my ticks, I can get pretty vocal at times, especially with a few beers. Part of my tick repertoire is making barking noises and twitches. Although nothing too extreme. Anyone have any idea if this will interfere seriously with my mongering experience?

[QUOTE=Chert1;1246532]I have a bit of an odd question. I will be visiting Sosua next week for a few days and am curious about how openminded the people there are. I have Tourettes Syndrome, and while cursing compulsively is not one of my ticks, I can get pretty vocal at times, especially with a few beers. Part of my tick repertoire is making barking noises and twitches. Although nothing too extreme. Anyone have any idea if this will interfere seriously with my mongering experience?[/QUOTE]Is this a joke? If not it would be kind of funny to see a chica's reaction to this. You will probably get laughed at more than slapped! LOL

@Grandnash84 It is actually not funny, the guy has a neurological disorder and just wants some toto.

@Chert1 You may want to consider a wingman to help you out.

[QUOTE=Chert1;1246532]I have a bit of an odd question. I will be visiting Sosua next week for a few days and am curious about how openminded the people there are. I have Tourettes Syndrome, and while cursing compulsively is not one of my ticks, I can get pretty vocal at times, especially with a few beers. Part of my tick repertoire is making barking noises and twitches. Although nothing too extreme. Anyone have any idea if this will interfere seriously with my mongering experience?[/QUOTE]I don't think you will have any problems. Just explain your condition to the chicas and as long as they can see you as a revenue source, they will be happy to deliver the goods. Also once you have been in Sosua a day or two, everyone will know about your condition anyway. There are guys in wheelchairs on the Sosua scene and they don't seem to have any problems getting their needs met. Just make sure you don't startle the dogs that you will find sleeping on the sidewalks and make them think you are moving in on their turf.

[QUOTE=Chert1;1246532]I have a bit of an odd question. I will be visiting Sosua next week for a few days and am curious about how openminded the people there are. I have Tourettes Syndrome, and while cursing compulsively is not one of my ticks, I can get pretty vocal at times, especially with a few beers. Part of my tick repertoire is making barking noises and twitches. Although nothing too extreme. Anyone have any idea if this will interfere seriously with my mongering experience?[/QUOTE]If this is in fact a serious post, then I would suggest you chose a much safer and controlled environment such as Blackbeard's in Puerto Plata. At least you can let management know about your situation and they can step in and help should something happen to you (if you should need medical attention). Sosua is a free-for-all environment and you don't want to open yourself up to being exploited should someone find out about your condition. Go to the Puerto Plata thread and ask the gents there about Blackbeard's Adult Resort. You can accomplish everything you would want to in Sosua, but on a smaller (and possibly cheaper) scale.

But seeing as though you are heading to Sosua next week don't know how helpful this advice would be. You could still email Blackbeard's to see if they have room availability. It's only a 45 minute taxi ride from the airport and they will send a driver to pick you up if you request it. You probably should have came to the forum and asked this question before making your arrangements and booking a flight to the DR though.

BlackBeards Adult Resort
Costambar Beach, Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic
Reservations: 1-809-970-3268

E-mail: Info@BlackBeardsadultresort.com

[url]http://www.blackbeardsadultresort.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1246490]Some folks are lazy and want "Ordered pussy" when they can do it for themselves in Sosua, and others want to exploit the situation and need an accomplice. Habib developed a "comfort zone" where he thought he was untouchable, even though he was dirty. It was a power play by all sides, but its as you say" Hustler meets hustler".[/QUOTE]I agree. Habib should have took the time to learn that the DR has zero tolerance for pornography, but he was too busy trying to exploit a situation thinking he was in Brazil or somewhere. He is lucky that all that happened to him was being robbed by the police.

And Kman1 you are correct: even if Habib does use release forms they are probably an American version and no court in the DR would recognize or uphold them (you already know how contract law works when it comes to just trying to own land in the DR). Ramon could have easily colluded with the other chicas in the videos and claim they were never paid for being in the videos if he wanted to, or the chicas could say they were drugged or were forced to be in the videos. And since Habib is obviously trying to make a profit by getting people to pay to watch them, The US would not go out of their way to block a request for him to be extradited to the DR to face those charges (especially since he is a pornographer).

And even if all of the charges are false, the DR government is certainly not going to spend any of their money to prove this. He would be guilty until proven innocent. He is lucky he didn't get stuck in the DR via "impedimento de salida".

[QUOTE=Frannie;1246663]I don't think you will have any problems.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. Ya I am not too worried about it, but I was curious about a second opinion. I have not had much problems with it when it comes to putas in other places. I am not fluent in spanish, but am proficient enough to explain myself and also don't suffer from the social awkwardness that some people with my condition do. I afterall managed to teach college for 7 years and at the moment work as a grocery manager in an indian (north american) community and have no problems there. As far as dogs are concerned. LOL. I get along with them great.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1246666]If this is in fact a serious post, then I would suggest you chose a much safer and controlled environment such as Blackbeard's in Puerto Plata.[/QUOTE]Good post, good advice.

[QUOTE=Chert1;1246707]Thanks for the advice. Ya I am not too worried about it, but I was curious about a second opinion. I have not had much problems with it when it comes to putas in other places. I am not fluent in spanish, but am proficient enough to explain myself and also don't suffer from the social awkwardness that some people with my condition do. I afterall managed to teach college for 7 years and at the moment work as a grocery manager in an indian (north american) community and have no problems there. As far as dogs are concerned. LOL. I get along with them great.[/QUOTE]Yeah, well, practically every guy found in Sosua is handicapped or some kind of weirdo in one way or another, only we prefer not to talk about it too much, so join the club. Obese, drunkards, Elvis impersonators, all are welcome.

I see there are different opinions from mine here, but I don't really agree with them, and don't think you need to be kept in some kind of walled garden. I don't think you will have a problem with chicas, and you will not be threatened or ostracized by other people in Sosua, which is a very cosmopolitan and liberal place where nobody gives a fuck about anything other than getting your money (if Dominican) or the state of their dick (if visitor).

Knowledge of Spanish helps to improve your experience, but it is not absolutely essential. This is a tourist country and there are people from all over the world. There are people who have been living here for years and speak nothing but Russian and half a dozen words of Spanish, and they manage fine. If you know enough Spanish to explain yourself, then you are ahead of most of the local expatriates.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1246871]Yeah, well, practically every guy found in Sosua is handicapped or some kind of weirdo in one way or another, only we prefer not to talk about it too much, so join the club. Obese, drunkards, Elvis impersonators, all are welcome.[/QUOTE]Frannie. I beleive I like you post bette than all the others. Not only because it is encouraging, but because it is open minded and I beleive also true, especially thefirst sentence. I have been to sosua once before, but it was years ago nd with a girlfriend (was not a monger then. He he he). We passed through on a cstamaran trip, so there was definelly no mongering. LOL I was a loyal subject then. I am looking forward to my second visit. And if I might wake up a few dogs sleeping in back alleys. Welll then so be it. La vida es asi.

[QUOTE=Chert1;1246707]Thanks for the advice. Ya I am not too worried about it, but I was curious about a second opinion. I have not had much problems with it when it comes to putas in other places. I am not fluent in spanish, but am proficient enough to explain myself and also don't suffer from the social awkwardness that some people with my condition do. I afterall managed to teach college for 7 years and at the moment work as a grocery manager in an indian (north american) community and have no problems there. As far as dogs are concerned. LOL. I get along with them great.[/QUOTE]Well the fact that you took Frannie's wry humor in your stride is a great sign. I think it is hard to take a joke when it is at your expense at least I find it hard to swallow.

While I do not know Sosua well, I agree with Frannie that it is a fish-bowl and does not require extensive problem solving. If there are unsavory characters that have been spoken of lately, all one has to do is to avoid them. Having some Spanish is hence a good shield. I met a French Canadian, very nice guy, who is handicapped and traverses the city on his wheel chair with no issue I could think of. Happy travels without the travail.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1246871]Yeah, well, practically every guy found in Sosua is handicapped or some kind of weirdo in one way or another, only we prefer not to talk about it too much, so join the club.[/QUOTE]You said it bro. The chicas are always telling me that my dick is too big.

Anyone know if this place is OK. Its so cheap I am a little worried. I usually stay at New Garden but I have seen this place but never walked in. The guy Obe is really nice on emails but I hope the place isn't to bad as far as rooms. Anyone know? Thanks

Some prior review, found by using the search button and Don Antonio.

[QUOTE=JPF; 972444]

Apart Hotel Don Antonio.

Calle Dr. Rosen #3.

809-571-2662.

[email]info@hotel-don-antonio.com[/email]

$40 / night.

- good: friendly staff (Obie)

- good: very close to the bars, center of the action.

- good: some rooms have a kitchenette.

- good: nice pool / bar area.

- bad: some rooms don't have A / C ($5 less)

- bad: rooms with a kitchenette have a tiny bathroom

I must have put it in wrong because before I ask a question I do a search, not being a newbie but nothing came up. Sorry about that and thanks for the info.

[QUOTE=Charlie Horse; 1246959]Some prior review, found by using the search button and Don Antonio.

[QUOTE=JPF; 972444]Apart Hotel Don Antonio.

Calle Dr. Rosen #3.

809-571-2662.

[email]info@hotel-don-antonio.com[/email]

$40 / night.

- good: friendly staff (Obie)

- good: very close to the bars, center of the action.

- good: some rooms have a kitchenette.

- good: nice pool / bar area.

- bad: some rooms don't have A / C ($5 less)

- bad: rooms with a kitchenette have a tiny bathroom[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You Can;1246931]Anyone know if this place is OK. Its so cheap I am a little worried. I usually stay at New Garden but I have seen this place but never walked in. The guy Obe is really nice on emails but I hope the place isn't to bad as far as rooms. Anyone know? Thanks[/QUOTE]You get what you pay for, if you are on a tight budget, there are better options, Try Seabreeze for $40, or stick with NG. You can get a decent one bedroom apartment right in El Batey for $50.

Guess thats why he has only kitchenette available. But he says things change. He seems nice I think I will at least check it out.

[QUOTE=Charlie Horse; 1246959]Some prior review, found by using the search button and Don Antonio.

[QUOTE=JPF; 972444]Apart Hotel Don Antonio.

Calle Dr. Rosen #3.

809-571-2662.

[email]info@hotel-don-antonio.com[/email]

$40 / night.

- good: friendly staff (Obie)

- good: very close to the bars, center of the action.

- good: some rooms have a kitchenette.

- good: nice pool / bar area.

- bad: some rooms don't have A / C ($5 less)

- bad: rooms with a kitchenette have a tiny bathroom[/QUOTE]

Funny thing is I am not really on a budget. I hate Seabreeze totally. New Garden in new wing was always nice but twice the price of the Don. I only considered the Don Antonio because of price and heard its clean and nice from a few different people. I wish I would have went in and took a look around in all the other times I have been there. Sometimes I am a fucking idiot. I stayed in a two bedroom two bath condo in ocean dreams in cabarete last year (I always rent a car in DR) but I emailed Sonja from Ocean dreams and they no longer allow companions to be brought in. Place was killer!

[QUOTE=Buscemi;1246966]You get what you pay for, if you are on a tight budget, there are better options, Try Seabreeze for $40, or stick with NG. You can get a decent one bedroom apartment right in El Batey for $50.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You Can;1246971]Funny thing is I am not really on a budget. I hate Seabreeze totally. New Garden in new wing was always nice but twice the price of the Don. I only considered the Don Antonio because of price and heard its clean and nice from a few different people. I wish I would have went in and took a look around in all the other times I have been there. Sometimes I am a fucking idiot. I stayed in a two bedroom two bath condo in ocean dreams in cabarete last year (I always rent a car in DR) but I emailed Sonja from Ocean dreams and they no longer allow companions to be brought in. Place was killer![/QUOTE]I am really not a fan of any "Monger" hotel, I appreciate peace and quiet, Terra Linda is very quiet, and right in the zone, only rule is no Happy Hours. Is it worth $69?

Rent a two bed in Hispaniola with a private pool for $140 if you want free range pussy. 10 minute walk to town or 2 minute drive!

[QUOTE=Chert1;1246532]I have a bit of an odd question. I will be visiting Sosua next week for a few days and am curious about how openminded the people there are. I have Tourettes Syndrome, and while cursing compulsively is not one of my ticks, I can get pretty vocal at times, especially with a few beers. Part of my tick repertoire is making barking noises and twitches. Although nothing too extreme. Anyone have any idea if this will interfere seriously with my mongering experience?[/QUOTE]Well, if you were pounding a chica doggie style and started barking, growling, biting and howling loudly as you shoot your load then roll over panting before going to sleep it will be probably be considered pretty normal monger behavior. Now if you were to lift one leg and start licking your balls after the deed that might raise some eyebrows.

[QUOTE=. I stayed in a two bedroom two bath condo in ocean dreams in cabarete last year (I always rent a car in DR) but I emailed Sonja from Ocean dreams and they no longer allow companions to be brought in. Place was killer![/QUOTE]

That is too bad to hear, because I like renting in Ocean Dream, right on the beach, nice layout and convenient to Sosua.

You know when I first read this guys post, I broke out laughing! But I am sure this problem isn't funny. I just hope he speaks espanol if he is serious so he can explain whats going on! Or hes going to scare the shit out of some of the people or maybe he will just fit right in. One of the craziest things I ever seen was driving back to Blackbeards from cabarete and I was only about a half mile before the turn onto the dirt road heading into Costabar and there was a tall Dominican girl walking down the street completley naked, I meant totally naked walking down the street. No shoes or anything! Nothing! As long as I live I will never forget that.

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1246978]Well, if you were pounding a chica doggie style and started barking, growling, biting and howling loudly as you shoot your load then roll over panting before going to sleep it will be probably be considered pretty normal monger behavior. Now if you were to lift one leg and start licking your balls after the deed that might raise some eyebrows.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1246978]Now if you were to lift one leg and start licking your balls after the deed that might raise some eyebrows.[/QUOTE]If he could do that, no need to go to Sosua in the first place! Je je

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1246905]You said it bro. The chicas are always telling me that my dick is too big.[/QUOTE]You too? And I thought it was just me.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1246902]Well the fact that you took Frannie's wry humor in your stride is a great sign. I think it is hard to take a joke when it is at your expense at least I find it hard to swallow.[/QUOTE]Well, you know I am fond of dogs, and don't want to see them getting riled up by barking mongers. The motoconchos are bad enough already.

[QUOTE=Chert1;1246532]I have a bit of an odd question. I will be visiting Sosua next week for a few days and am curious about how openminded the people there are. I have Tourettes Syndrome, and while cursing compulsively is not one of my ticks, I can get pretty vocal at times, especially with a few beers. Part of my tick repertoire is making barking noises and twitches. Although nothing too extreme. Anyone have any idea if this will interfere seriously with my mongering experience?[/QUOTE]Learn how to say "I'm sorry, I have Tourette syndrome" in Spanish if it makes you feel any better. I've seen beautiful young girls tolerate old nasty drunken men who couldn't walk a straight line if their life depended on it. I doubt they'll have much of a problem with your issue. At the end of the day the money is all blue (or that sort of faded orange'ish brown). And when a girl needs to feed her bambino they tend not to get too picky.

[QUOTE=Mariomarengo;1246261]Very expensive, bad food and plenty of gay waiters is BOLOGNA don't go there not truly italian food but too much expensive[/QUOTE]What Balderdash! The cook certainly is not Italian but the owner of the restaurant is a guy from the City of Bologna, Italy who trained the people. I was introduced to the place by another Italian living in Sosua, a Romano and both dinners of mine were superb with attentive service. One privilege of eating with the owner. Well I did not taste the gay waiters but then I am not into men and gay waiters are as good in terms of being waiters. But I will grant that the place is pricey.

Now, having said that, if your want "true" Italian food, then you should stick to Italy only. Even the concept of "al dente" changes as you move from Napoli to Roma to Firenze to Milano; lasciamo perdere la Republica Domenicana!

OK, gang. Posted a question in the Sosua Hotel section a few days ago but no answers, so I'll try here. Anyone stayed at or have comments on the Perla Sosua apartments? I usually stay at Sosua Bay Hotel (mongering section) and have been happy but wondering what these apartments might be like for a few days or a week in late March. Thanks in advance for any comments.

[QUOTE=Baron Von Booty;1247020]Learn how to say "I'm sorry, I have Tourette syndrome" in Spanish if it makes you feel any better.[/QUOTE]You really think a Sosua working girl would know what that is? They only know two ailments or conditions ("gripe" or "loco") and they only know two cures for ailments (antibiotics or mamajuana).

[QUOTE=You Can;1246985]One of the craziest things I ever seen was driving back to Blackbeards from cabarete and I was only about a half mile before the turn onto the dirt road heading into Costabar and there was a tall Dominican girl walking down the street completley naked, I meant totally naked walking down the street. No shoes or anything! Nothing! As long as I live I will never forget that.[/QUOTE]One of my craziest things was seeing the same thing except it was a guy outside of Accra in Ghana. And I swear on my family that his dick was just above his kneecaps. The driver said he probably had a mental problem.

LOL well I am looking forward to my trip there. Thanks for all the feedback! I will post a report as soon as I am there and monger a bit. Life is short afterall ang good moments needc to be cherished.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1247100]You really think a Sosua working girl would know what that is? They only know two ailments or conditions ("gripe" or "loco") and they only know two cures for ailments (antibiotics or mamajuana).[/QUOTE]Mi abuelo era un perro y por eso todos los hombres de mi familia ladran a veces, pero es involuntario. Sin embargo, no somos peligrosos y que no muerden. A menos, no mucho.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1247269]Mi abuelo era un perro y por eso todos los hombres de mi familia ladran a veces, pero es involuntario. Sin embargo, no somos peligrosos y que no muerden. A menos, no mucho.[/QUOTE]Why post in Spanish on an English speaking forum?

[QUOTE=Zip Head;1247073]OK, gang. Posted a question in the Sosua Hotel section a few days ago but no answers, so I'll try here. Anyone stayed at or have comments on the Perla Sosua apartments? I usually stay at Sosua Bay Hotel (mongering section) and have been happy but wondering what these apartments might be like for a few days or a week in late March. Thanks in advance for any comments.[/QUOTE]Perla de Sosua is a great spot, around the corner from Banco Popular, down that hill on the left.

Some of the apartments are very basic, and some are newly renovated, the guy that runs it, Brent Lewis is a straight shooter and understands why we visit Sosua.

They have a website with every apartment's pictures and availability. If you email him he responds.

Buscemi

[QUOTE=Afroski;1247271]Why post in Spanish on an English speaking forum?[/QUOTE]Because this is and example of what you might say to a woman who does not speak English to explain something to her. It would be pointless to post this in English. It is an English speaking forum about a country where Spanish is spoken.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1247276]Because this is and example of what you might say to a woman who does not speak English to explain something to her. It would be pointless to post this in English. It is an English speaking forum about a country where Spanish is spoken.[/QUOTE]I understand your intent but maybe a little context around your foreign language post would help us all, remember your audience on here is mostly English speaking.

In my opinion its just a courtesy, thanks.

[QUOTE=Afroski; 1247279]I understand your intent but maybe a little context around your foreign language post would help us all, remember your audience on here is mostly English speaking.

In my opinion its just a courtesy, thanks.[/QUOTE]Actually I was going to add some more comments to the post, but someone came to the door, so I posted it quickly. Many of the people who post here only have a rudimentary knowledge of English, and many know a certain amount of Spanish. Personally I just ignore the posts that are written in crackhead slang without punctuation and skip over them. If something is of no interest to you and you can't be bothered to paste it into a translator, then you can just do the same. On the other hand, if you really want to know how to explain in Spanish that you have a neurological disorder, you are going to have to engage with the Spanish language.

[QUOTE=Afroski;1247271]Why post in Spanish on an English speaking forum?[/QUOTE]Here is a loose translation: My grandfather was a dog, and because of this the men in my family bark at times, but not voluntarily. However, we are not dangerous, and they do not bite. Well, not much.

Frannie's unspoken point is you have to be able to explain things in at least basic Spanish. He makes a good point. Most of the girls that I meet speak little to no English. They may not know what a particular ailment is, but you should be able to tell them you are not crazy. They will laugh.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1247100]You really think a Sosua working girl would know what that is? They only know two ailments or conditions ("gripe" or "loco") and they only know two cures for ailments (antibiotics or mamajuana).[/QUOTE]

LOL. The gripe is gripping this winter season...everyone I speak to has it and then some but to cut the Sosua working girl some slack, I still do not know what Tourette syndrome is all about; it must be one of those arcane ailments that afflicts a small number of people making it unusual for ordinary mortals to know of it.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1247147]One of my craziest things was seeing the same thing except it was a guy outside of Accra in Ghana. And I swear on my family that his dick was just above his kneecaps. The driver said he probably had a mental problem.[/QUOTE]I envy you. I have no practical reason I can think of in this life that projects me in West Africa. Ethiopia and Zanzibar are two other places in the East of that continent too!

[QUOTE=Frannie;1247288]Actually I was going to add some more comments to the post, but someone came to the door, so I posted it quickly. Many of the people who post here only have a rudimentary knowledge of English, and many know a certain amount of Spanish. Personally I just ignore the posts that are written in crackhead slang without punctuation and skip over them. If something is of no interest to you and you can't be bothered to paste it into a translator, then you can just do the same. On the other hand, if you really want to know how to explain in Spanish that you have a neurological disorder, you are going to have to engage with the Spanish language.[/QUOTE]Afroski has a point in that without the context, Frannie's post suddenly was out of place but we also now know Frannie's explanation as to why he omitted the context. One also has to appreciate his very "English" humor and there is no doubt that getting to make the women laugh while trying to explain a complex handicap, is a great way to calm the waves.

To me the more relevant point however is that, while the forum is English, many here speak it "funny" (at least I have some trouble getting my arm around " I would have took" and similar that I see that makes me flinch involuntarily. But I am also a purist in terms of food and language. A pain in the neck, in short!) but I do feel that our learning gets richer when other languages are used. Especially Spanish which is not a giant leap forward compared to say, Papiamento!

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1247296]LOL. The gripe is gripping this winter season.everyone I speak to has it and then some but to cut the Sosua working girl some slack, I still do not know what Tourette syndrome is all about; it must be one of those arcane ailments that afflicts a small number of people making it unusual for ordinary mortals to know of it.[/QUOTE]LOL to you. Thereis nothing arcane about tourettes. If I was not an alcoholic and did not play a mean bulerias (flamenco. Look it up) I would have prolly snuffed it a long gtime ago. Beleive it or not dealing with tourettes is a fcking pain in the arse. But we live on.

[QUOTE=Chert1;1247344]LOL to you. Thereis nothing arcane about tourettes. If I was not an alcoholic and did not play a mean bulerias (flamenco. Look it up) I would have prolly snuffed it a long gtime ago. Beleive it or not dealing with tourettes is a fcking pain in the arse. But we live on.[/QUOTE]First of all, I did not mean to be disrespectful to you or to your condition.apologies, if I did come across that crass; I was referring to the two illnesses the D. R knows as pointed out by Charles.

No I did not know the name Tourette though tics are probably as old as humanity but I have not seen people with severe affliction. I would not doubt that it is a "pain" but now that you can do a mean Flamenco, that might actually mitigate the Tourette handicap when you go to the dance bars. Women in the D. R love to dance and grind as well and I am sure you will live on to return (smiley).

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1247512]First of all, I did not mean to be disrespectful to you or to your condition. Apologies, if I did come across that crass; I was referring to the two illnesses the D. R knows as pointed out by Charles.

Is all good. I was not offended. But just being a bit faceitious. LOL a 2 day hangover will do that to one.

Hello, everybody I am new to this site and I am looking forward to speaking to some of you on this forum.

I am 54 year old married man, overweight and on crutches due to a disability could anybody let me know if my condition will be a problem when I go to sosua, for example will I be able to get quality woman or are they fussy and only pick attractive men? Will I have to pay more than the average guy, will I be able to use my wheelchair for longer jouneys out, are the clubs reasonably accesable, many thanks in anticipation.

Kieth

[QUOTE=MetcalfKieth; 1247724]Hello, everybody I am new to this site and I am looking forward to speaking to some of you on this forum.

I am 54 year old married man, overweight and on crutches due to a disability could anybody let me know if my condition will be a problem when I go to sosua, for example will I be able to get quality woman or are they fussy and only pick attractive men? Will I have to pay more than the average guy, will I be able to use my wheelchair for longer jouneys out, are the clubs reasonably accesable, many thanks in anticipation.

Kieth[/QUOTE]I don't want to sound like a shill for Blackbeard's (again) , but maybe you should look at staying there instead. Classico's (the main attraction) is not wheelchair accessible and you definitely don't want to be trying to roll around on the fucked up streets of Sosua (as in potholes and such) being harrassed by hustlers and beggars.

Go to the Puerto Plata forum and ask the guys over there about Blackbeard's adult resort. Everything you need is on site (women, food, booze, bed) and you will never have to leave unless to go back to the airport. Let them know of your situation and request a room on the first floor. Plus there is a set pricing structure for sex with women at Blackbeard's, so you will not be paying any more or any less than the next guy.

[quote=metcalfkieth; 1247724]hello, everybody i am new to this site and i am looking forward to speaking to some of you on this forum.

i am 54 year old married man, overweight and on crutches due to a disability could anybody let me know if my condition will be a problem when i go to sosua, for example will i be able to get quality woman or are they fussy and only pick attractive men? will i have to pay more than the average guy, will i be able to use my wheelchair for longer jouneys out, are the clubs reasonably accesable, many thanks in anticipation.

kieth[/quote]there are men on the sosua scene in wheelchairs, so clearly it is wheelchair navigable, however you would need to be agile enough to run the wheelchair in the road on not on the sidewalks which are too rough and have other obstructions like lamp posts and street signs, dogs sleeping, or gutters draining onto them in rainy weather. there are a few speed bumps in the roads, but not many pot holes. at the junctions of roads there is a two inch gap that is ok as long as you cross at 90 degrees. there are also a couple of local guys in wheelchairs who sit outside the pharmacy and collect money in paper cups, so the sight of a person in a wheelchair is nothing out of the ordinary in sosua.

i have ridden a bicycle over every street in sosua and all the main roads have a fairly smooth surface. there is not a lot of traffic within the town.

most of the clubs and restaurants are accessible, but the classico disco has a wide staircase that is not suited for wheelchairs, although accessible with crutches. my overall impression regarding the women is that they want men who will not give them a hard time or demand too much, who will treat them nicely, and who will pay the agreed upon price. as far as the sexual side, most of them are pretty obliging and their priority is more that the man they are with admires them and tells them that they are beautiful than the other way around. i don't think you will have to pay more than the average guy. just tell them you always get a 20% descuento from the other girls because you are disabled. generally a bit of humor and a joke goes a long way. most of the girls are pretty simple souls and eager to please.

you mention that you are married. will your wife be pushing the wheel chair? that might cramp your style. if you have a male pusher, you should not have problems.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1247809]I don't want to sound like a shill for Blackbeard's (again) , but maybe you should look at staying there instead. Classico's (the main attraction) is not wheelchair accessible and you definitely don't want to be trying to roll around on the fucked up streets of Sosua (as in potholes and such) being harrassed by hustlers and beggars.

Go to the Puerto Plata forum and ask the guys over there about Blackbeard's adult resort. Everything you need is on site (women, food, booze, bed) and you will never have to leave unless to go back to the airport. Let them know of your situation and request a room on the first floor. Plus there is a set pricing structure for sex with women at Blackbeard's, so you will not be paying any more or any less than the next guy.[/QUOTE]Good advice. Blackbeard Resort gets good reviews.

I visited Blackbeard Resort one time for about ten minutes with Charles Pooter and the novia of Charles Pooter and two 20 year old women from Moca (I checked the Cedulas of both Moca chicas). For the trip at night to Puerto Plata and Blackbeard Resort, the Moca women left their cedulas at home. I was told to exit Blackbeard Resort at the request of the owner, after 10 minutes, because the two Moca women did not have their cedulas with them (I saw both Cedulas earlier in the day in Moca). One Moca chica (the taller one, who Charles Pooter liked) asked me how she could apply to work at Blackbeard Resort (servicing the guests).

Blackbeard Resort gets very good reviews and the owner is interested in customer service. I will never return to Blackbeard Resort, so I have no ulterior motive and will gain nothing by recommending Blackbeard Resort (I know no one who works there).

[QUOTE=MetcalfKieth; 1247724]Hello, everybody I am new to this site and I am looking forward to speaking to some of you on this forum.

I am 54 year old married man, overweight and on crutches due to a disability could anybody let me know if my condition will be a problem when I go to sosua, for example will I be able to get quality woman or are they fussy and only pick attractive men? Will I have to pay more than the average guy, will I be able to use my wheelchair for longer jouneys out, are the clubs reasonably accesable, many thanks in anticipation.

Kieth[/QUOTE]Kieth,

You have gotten good advise from both Frannie and Savepros. Personally, if I was you I would give Blackbeard's or Whitebeard's (formerly FOD) a try first if you are traveling solo. If you are traveling with a friend or wingman that can help you navigate around Sosua then go for it, either way you will have a blast. The best advise I can give you is to read as much of the Sosua and Puerto Plata forums as possible prior to arrival, you will be glad you did, have a great time.

This actually is my 3rd trip to Sosua for vacation. The 1st and 2nd trip was Oct 2011, and Nov 2011 respectively. This trip begins on Jan 29 starting off with 2 days at Blackbeards and moving on to Sosua on Jan 31st. Although this is the Sosua Reports forum it is essential that I begin my report from POP airport to BB.

Before Jan 29th, I prearranged my pickup from POP with Mike / Miguel the taxi / Tour guide. He was recommended by another member of this forum who gave a report here and elsewhere of how he lost his passport even before he got to BB's. Mike took in his problem as if it was his own. Took him to SD and helped him to secure another PP. When I read that, I knew that I needed to meet this guy. This member had a picture of Mike depicted in a BB newsletter, and he supplied his cell.

Anyone interested in his number can PM me. After I get further in my report, you will understand why I highly recommend Mike if nothing more than an affordable taxi to or from your hotel.

Mike is a short stocky dark Dom with a big stomach. He usually tells his pickups that he will be wearing a big white shirt with the number 12 on the front. That way he doesn't have to carry a bunch of name cards for different pickups. One thing interesting about Mike, is that he doesn't discuss how much the taxi ride is to BB. He said whatever you want to give me on the phone. He has been criticized for this because it may leave him open to someone taking advantage of him. But it is a two way street. Mike can easily out earn others because the service and security he provides can give a generous dude like me the incentive to pay more for personalized service. Okay were on our way to BB. Of course in my mind, I need to make some stops along the way, so I am at least willing to pay Mike the $45 standard charge that other taxis charge.

Well we leave the airport, and I discuss with Mike that I need to stop at Yennys market in Costambar. He says no problem. I also told him I want to see about a chip for my iphone. Again, no problem. Not long into the trip we both find out that we are both bomberos (firefighters ). From that he seemed to take a special liking to me. So whats the 1st stop? He takes me to Cristals in PP. We walk in and sit down at the bar and he offers to buy me a presidente. I am quickly approached by 3 chicas and eyeballed by a half dozen around the place. They are by the pool, their inhouse beauty salon, on some nearby balconies I assumed lead to the private rooms. I said to myself, so this is the infamous Cristals. This is midday, I am not in the club area, but a section that looks like a small patio / courtyard. We Leave there and we go to La Sirena mall to the Orange store to activate my iphone and buy a phone. A guy I met last Nov had already arrived at BB, courtesy of Mike. So me and Mike picked him up and ended up back at Cristals. I ended up paying 5300 pesos to take the chica I liked out, and J did the same with another girl. We take them both back to BB. This was after 6pm Sunday night, and it seemed very quiet at BB's. I tried not to make much eye contact with the BB chicas, and just went to my room.

My girl seemed to get younger and younger the more she took off, like clothes, makeup, the sexy shoes, etc. She had a body girdle on underneath her clothes. I guess to make her stomach flat and her butt cheeks more round. She had a nice body and a pretty face. But she wasn't the sexy glamorous chica I took out of Cristals. I was supposed to have her all night up to 6pm the next day. The sex and BJ was okay. Nothing to write home about. Next morning, I was going to go for a morning session. But low and behold, she caused a bloody crime scene in my bed. Her period was on. She was embarrassed, and slightly in pain. I tried to comfort her, and tell her it was okay. She even was willing to stay with me up until 6pm, but when the other girl from Cristals showed up to my door ready to leave the next morning, I was relieved and suggested she should go with her. Me and J rode with Mike and the girls back to Cristals. Wow what a waste of money. Yeah I could have complained and maybe got compensated in some way, but I let it go.

Later Mike introduces me to his neighbor, a 25 yr old average looking talkbox. She speaks good English, but she sounds like she's Jewish. She has a medium size frame and skinny legs. Well I said, I'll make the best of it. I asked her to bring a girl for J, and a 19yr old cutie showed up. Mike takes us all to BB. Once again I make it to my room without making much eye contact.

These 2 chicas were in shock that they were at BB's. Once again J had a good time with his chica, and I struggled with mine. Mostly because her pussy was so tight and could hardly get wet.

I gave her an A for effort though, because she had a great set of DSL's and knew how to use them. Unfortunately she wasn't going to continue giving me oral as long as I needed.

I eventually check out of BB on the 31st to finish up in Sosua. So I spent 2 days there and didn't get with one girl there. My overall assessment for me, is that I don't like the idea of picking a girl that is just hanging around hoping to be taken to a room, only to return a short time later to a lounge chair with the other women. Meanwhile, you may come out of your room to just hang around. So different than making a selection from random women in Sosua.

I wouldn't consider myself an experienced mongerer by no means, but I must say, I've had more fun winging it in Sosua than I would have at BB's. Even the atmosphere at NG reminds me of BB, even though the women at NG are independent working girls.

My 1st day in Sosua it was about 2 o'clock pm, I was passing by a nail salon shop across from NG. I met this fine ass chica, light skin with long hair. She was standing in the doorway. I immediately felt the need to hit on her. I asked her if she would like to go for a drink? I asked her lets get together later, she said why not now? I'm like now? Am I dreaming? I'm trying to set something up for later, and she is down to go right now.

I said okay lets go now. We started walking down the street towards Baileys, and this dude that was in the salon getting his nails done, came running out the salon calling her name. Apparently dude wanted a piece of that but didn't make it happen right then.

After our drink we went to my apartment at El Rancho. I asked the chica if she liked massages? She said si. This chica was very sexy, tight jeans with nice plump ass, wearing 4 or 5 inch heel shoes. Very sexy, and eye catching. She jumped in and out of the shower, and I went to town on this girls body. Now this is what I have been waiting for. Juicy pussy, great oral skills, smells and tastes good. Normally I'm not good when it comes to daytime action, but I was very turned on to this girl. After our session I walked her to the Rumba bar. Reality kicked in quick. She offered me something to drink, and afterwards asked me to pay her. So I paid her and left. I had her number already, in case I wanted another session. And more sessions with her were to follow. 4 to be exact. My sessions with her were back to back, but I took a day off from her and got with a chica from my last visit.

Anyway, this last hookup was supposed to be just us going to lunch and hanging out. I told her I wasn't interested in a session, lets just do lunch. Well after lunch we had a session anyway. And later she asked if I would arrange to take her to Copa disco in PP. Later she asked if she could bring along her amiga. Now Mike comes to pick us all up and were off to the disco / casino. The night appeared to be going well, except (I'll call her Y) was turning into an intoxicated selfish *****.

After awhile it was getting kinda late, and Mike stayed there outside the club the whole time we were there. I used to party all night when I was in my 20's but I had no interest in partying til 4 or 5 in the morning. Finally I convince this chick that we need to leave. She has a little attitude, but I figure it's just the Hennessy.

On the way back to Sosua, Mikes van starts to have trouble. It stalls on the main road back to Sosua. At this point, I know these chicks are going to be a pain in the ass about the possibility of us being stranded. Things are not looking good. Y says to me, my amiga is my gift to you tonight. I kinda knew there was something going on with those two. They probably worked out a plan in the bano.

We get Mikes van off the road, and he decides to hail a taxi that happens to come by. Y decides, I'll call a taxi in Sosua to come get us. Mike and Y were clashing.

So last night I'm in the bed with 2 women, and Y goes to sleep while have a session with her amiga. I have been to Sosua 3 times, and this girl sucked my wood better than any woman in the last 20yrs, LOL.

She almost let me blast her in her boca, but she pulled it out after getting a little bit in there. Oh I should say we did a little mish and cowgirl before we finished with her sucking me good. Then we all went to sleep, with me in the middle. I have to be honest, once I was done, I really wished those chicas would have called a taxi and left. I didn't need to sleep with them too. Not enough room in my queen bed for 3 people.

Let me go back to Jan 31 since I jumped ahead to Feb 10 to comment about the 3 some.

Later that night I was flying solo because my buddy went back to BB and I stayed in Sosua. I decided I was going to hit the strip and see what was going on. I knew another buddy from Chi Town was going to be in Sosua, they were staying at Hispaniola Villas. I walked past El Flow, checked across the street at Rumbas, and everywhere my eyes took me. There were chicas all over the place. I saw my buddy S from Chi Town at The Winners Circle talking and dancing to the music there. We talked briefly but I could tell he was having a good time, and boozing it up.

Normally I wouldn't go there to hang out or buy a drink, but there were quite a few chicas hanging around the bar. They were playing music videos on the screen, but it sounded like it was a DJ playing the music.

I spotted a sexy looking chica at the bar. Gave her the usual Hola and simple Spanish jargon. Offered a couple of beers and we just sat there listening to music and relaxing. I tested her interest by hugging her around the waist, and using any excuse to touch her affectionately. And her body language was positive. We couldn't hold a convo, so we just stuck to the body language.

Meanwhile, a few guys in the bar decided they were going to perform their own music video. They climbed up on the bar stools and threw a bunch of US dollars up in the air, had people scrambling like crazy. I picked up about 3 dollars and handed to the chica I was trying to get with.

After a few more make it rain moments, I asked the chica would she like to leave with me, she nodded yes. I took her back to El Rancho and we got busy. As soon as we got into my apartment she went straight to the BR and started taking off her clothes. I was trying to slow her down, because I wanted to have the pleasure of removing them. I assumed I was her 1st client for the night and she was still freshly showered.

If I had smelled something fowl, I definitely would have made her get in the shower. I knew I was freshly showered, so I just dug right in. She had a very shapely body even though it was a small frame.

What I noticed though, is that her pussy was very tight and not very wet. It's bad enough I'm wearing a condom, but to have a dry pussy on top of that? I managed to get the job done, and I must have drifted off a little bit. She woke me up to say she had to leave. I gave her 2000RD and walked her outside to a MC. To this day, I can't even remember if she or I enjoyed our session. I was pretty tired and the presidentes didn't help the situation.

Feb 1, my close friend flew in from NC, and I had Mike pick him up from POP. Once he got situated at ER, we all went out to patrol the strip and get something to eat.

Next day I rented a car to meet a chica in SD that I connected with from Dom Cupid. That turned out to be a complete waste of my time. It's not like I didn't have red flags from her, I just chose to ignore or deal with them.

After that trip to SD we got back to Sosua on Sat, the day before Super Bowl. I parked the car by the Winners Circle and we just observed the scene until we decided to check out La Passions club.

I have never been inside of La Passions. But it was interesting. Nice looking chicas all within an area that reminded me of a tiny skating rink. Except the women didn't have skates on. Me and P had a Coke and was just admiring the girls there. I got to thinking. Would I enjoy a La Passions experience, since I didn't particularly do anything or anyone special at BB's? Maybe yes, maybe not.

But there was too much going on around all of the clubs for me to think I couldn't find the same quality as La Passions.

The next day I had a talk with Juan from Seabreeze and he gave me a tip on a male enhancement supplement that was pretty good with no side effects. Doesn't fuck with your heart, nor will it damage your liver. In fact it is known for improving blood circulation, and help with the prevention of heart attacks. The product is called BLACK ANT. The very 1st Haitian vender to the right as you leave Seabreeze sells BA capsules. You can buy individual capsules or a box with 4 capsules in the box. He charged me US $6. 25 per capsule or $25 box of 4.

You take it 20 min before a session, and for me it worked great. I took my 1st tablet with another chica I met from the nail salon across from NG. Man, I was getting stiff while I was in the shower. I went in the shower behind her to finish washing her off. BA performed like a champ. You know how you want to stay in a particular position so you don't lose your erection? Well with BA, it didn't matter what position I had her in, I was ready to go. And with a condom on. Of course the most important factor here, is that I already found her to be very attractive, and my dick missed her very much. I didn't miss the lies and the bullshit, but I did miss her body. Good thing for me, is that she gets real wet, and comes pretty easily. I know some of you guys can relate to having or dealing with a woman whose pussy seems lifeless. What a drag. Hopefully more trip report to come.

I woke up late in my second day in Sosua, almost at noon. I was tired after my 36 hr / 4 chicas activity. I walked to the beach at the end of my street a one minute walk. I saw a cute blonde girl seated at a bench in the park. She said Hi and asked how I was. I told her I was fine. Hum a hot tourist I thought. I asked where she was from; she told me she was from USA. 'I am here to help clean this town from sin'. Two guys arrived later and joined us, they were Mormons! 'Please do not clean the town this weekend, I have some sins to commit' I replied and left before they began to talk to me some religious shit.

I walked a couple of streets and noticed most people were eating breakfast items at noon, people woke up late in this town. I decided to eat lunch time food so after a long walk and a couple of 'Hello, massage' 'moto taxi' and 'change? ' greetings I decided to eat at El Cultivo. They are in front of Classicos and serve dominican food. Their cassava fritters tastes good, their ribs are nothing special. Service was slow; I can easily leave the place without paying and without anybody noticing it.

I seated outside in a corner next to a bar with an X in their name. Three putas went to the X place and began chatting. They were speaking loud. At some time during their conversation they were discussing about how to poison guys drinks, how to take advantage of guys working as a team. It was like a mini puta convention. One of the girls was staring to me, smiling. Is she going to poison my drink from across the street? LOL. I paid for my lunch and walked to the public beach while drinking a large beer. Most bars and restaurants were promoting their Super bowl activities. I seated in front of one the kiosks to drink another beer and watch the scene. No vendor bothered me, a lot nicer than Boca Chica in that aspect. People walk up and down the beach, tourists, locals, mostly a mix of European and North American people and locals. Oh there are the poison girls again poisoning some coconuts I suppose, hehehe. The one that was watching me at the X place walked around me. Five minutes later she went to me and said Hi. She asked me if I want some fucki fucki and I told her that I was waiting for a Puerto Plata chica. Her name is Mirely. She gave her phone number and told me to call her after I leave my girl.

One hour later I was hungry again. I was in the mood for some real KFC chicken, but Sosua do not have international restaurants or fast foods, that is one advantage of Santo Domingo over Sosua. I walked the streets and suddenly some garbage on the street: a KFC box! So I began asking people for the KFC like in the movie of Harold and Kumar goes to White Castle. Where is Kentucky Fried Chicken? 'The what? ' a man at Bon replied. 'The American fried chicken place' I replied. 'Ohhh, chicken, you see that place? Americans go there and eat chicken' another guy answered. 'No no no, you do not understand me, I want to go to Ken-tuc-ky Fried Chic-ken, the American place' 'Yes, over there American eats there. ' I believe no one in Sosua knows what KFC is. I decided to shower after a couple of minutes more of walking looking for the KFC.

My Puerto Plata chica from yesterday called and went to my hotel. She was also hungry and after a few minutes walking we decided to enter to some place called Mora Muai or a similar name. She had a lasagna with garlic bread and salad and a soda, I ordered the grilled trio with german sausage, steak and chicken with rice and a beer. Their food was tasteless, not a place to visit again. The cost was near 25 dollars, not bad for the portions. My Puerto Plata Badoo chica came again from home, she was nice companionship. She do not ask for money in the first night but now she has a story about her cell phone not working properly, that it do not charge ok blah blah. I noticed her phone was in full charge but did not say a word. She needs an excuse to get money from me and not being branded as a puta for having sex with me and getting money. We took a walk to some streets and entered a couple of places, she wanted a piercing for near her mouth lips area but did not found one she liked.

We want back to the room and to the balcony. This time was less chat and more action. She kisses so nice and her eyes look so exciting to look, as if she really were in love with me. I took her clothes off in the balcony and began eating her pussy while she was lying over the balcony table. We moved to the bed to finish the action as good as the day before, this time with some chocolate included. She spent near an hour lying next to me after sex, kissing, hugging, talking. I gave her 2, 000 pesos to help with her cell phone problem and she was happy. Not bad. 2,000 pesos for 2 days of girl friend experience with nice sex. She gave her other phone number to call her just in case the other is not working. Another phone number? I was tempted to ask her why she was so sorry about her phone if she has another one but I never asked. Her Badoo pictures were uploaded via 'Badoo for iphone' so guess what other cell phone she has. The girl left and I went to my hotel bar to use some wi fi and drink a few beers.

I decided to hit the strip again so I walked up and down, stopped at a few strategic places to see girls and being noticed by them. I saw a couple of nice pretty petite young girls in front of the bar in the corner next to El Flow. Their names Ally and Monica. They offered me a 3some and were tempted but were also tired, they were both cute. We shared a beer and after a few minutes I continued walking. I went back to my hotel to see my country team losing to Dominican Republic in the Caribbean series so back to the strip I went again. The 3some chicas were still there, they insisted and I told them that my chica was in my hotel. 'No problem, we can go to hotel Central which is almost the place next to us' she replied. I told them maybe later.

There was this chica wearing white jeans and a small red top next to us, smiling to me. She looked in her early 30's but attractive to me. I went to say Hello, to her. We moved to the back area of the bar to be in a more private setting. We shared a beer while talking, she told me her name is Ana from Santiago. Long black her slim and a Spaniard nose. She told me one of her parents is from Spain. She told me she has lived in Puerto Rico and New York. I also told her the lie of my chica in the room so I can't fuck her but this girl seduced me with her kisses and putting her hand on the right places. I still insisted that I was in the mood for sex but she convincingly told me that she was going to do something special to me I will never forget. I was tempted so after a few more minutes of kissing and a 1, 200 pesos agreement we left the bar. We arrived to my hotel and she showed the guard her cedula, it was broken in 3 pieces. He was hesitant at first but after the 'you know me' phrase he let her in. We went up to my room and she went directly to the bathroom. She came naked from the bath and helped me to take my clothes of. Her body was slim, well trimmed, she looked nice, her tits not teenage firm but were ok. So, as she promised, she did something I will never forget: she gave me the best blow job I have received in years. She began sucking it bare back; her technique was so good that I became puertorican Rocco Sigfredi for a few minutes. She asked me: 'I am so tight you are going to hurt me, do you have some lubricant? I got some strawberry lubricant and she put some inside her and I did her missionary, woman in top, doggie. She is a dirt talker and it helped me to get excited. Suddenly she took the condom off: 'I want your leche in my mouth' she said, 'dame la lechita papi' she repeated, 'I am your puta' and some other phrases. I finally came inside her mouth and she emit a strange sound: she accidentally swallowed some of my cum. I was laughing and she told me I lied to her because I came so much that it was impossible I have had sex that day. She was good. I gave her the 1200 plus 300 pesos tip and some pesos more to her concho back to los Charamicos. I was so satisfied, with a smile on my face. I went back to the strip and saw Ally and Monica. We exchanged numbers for next day. So see you next day people.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1248166]...she told me her name is Ana from Santiago. Long black her slim and a Spaniard nose.[/QUOTE]Why do I know EXACTLY what that is (Spaniard nose) , LOL? I've met a few chicas from Santiago with "beaks". I guess that is common with a lot of chicas from that area. It's actually kinda attractive on some chicas.

Thanks for the insight on what goes on in a putas brain, it was always a mystery to me, after all they do have one. Your lines were funny.

I would have had a longer conversation with the missionary, esp if she were cute like you say, LOL. Hope they don't put a dent on mongering, usually they are pretty passive.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline; 1248166]I woke up late in my second day in Sosua, almost at noon. I was tired after my 36 hr / 4 chicas activity. I walked to the beach at the end of my street a one minute walk. I saw a cute blonde girl seated at a bench in the park. She said Hi and asked how I was. I told her I was fine. Hum a hot tourist I thought. I asked where she was from; she told me she was from USA. 'I am here to help clean this town from sin'. Two guys arrived later and joined us, they were Mormons! 'Please do not clean the town this weekend, I have some sins to commit' I replied and left before they began to talk to me some religious shit.

I walked a couple of streets and noticed most people were eating breakfast items at noon, people woke up late in this town. I decided to eat lunch time food so after a long walk and a couple of 'Hello, massage' 'moto taxi' and 'change? ' greetings I decided to eat at El Cultivo. They are in front of Classicos and serve dominican food. Their cassava fritters tastes good, their ribs are nothing special. Service was slow; I can easily leave the place without paying and without anybody noticing it.

I seated outside in a corner next to a bar with an X in their name. Three putas went to the X place and began chatting. They were speaking loud. At some time during their conversation they were discussing about how to poison guys drinks, how to take advantage of guys working as a team. It was like a mini puta convention. One of the girls was staring to me, smiling. Is she going to poison my drink from across the street? LOL. I paid for my lunch and walked to the public beach while drinking a large beer. Most bars and restaurants were promoting their Super bowl activities. I seated in front of one the kiosks to drink another beer and watch the scene. No vendor bothered me, a lot nicer than Boca Chica in that aspect. People walk up and down the beach, tourists, locals, mostly a mix of European and North American people and locals. Oh there are the poison girls again poisoning some coconuts I suppose, hehehe. The one that was watching me at the X place walked around me. Five minutes later she went to me and said Hi. She asked me if I want some fucki fucki and I told her that I was waiting for a Puerto Plata chica. Her name is Mirely. She gave her phone number and told me to call her after I leave my girl.

One hour later I was hungry again. I was in the mood for some real KFC chicken, but Sosua do not have international restaurants or fast foods, that is one advantage of Santo Domingo over Sosua. I walked the streets and suddenly some garbage on the street: a KFC box! So I began asking people for the KFC like in the movie of Harold and Kumar goes to White Castle. Where is Kentucky Fried Chicken? 'The what? ' a man at Bon replied. 'The American fried chicken place' I replied. 'Ohhh, chicken, you see that place? Americans go there and eat chicken' another guy answered. 'No no no, you do not understand me, I want to go to Ken-tuc-ky Fried Chic-ken, the American place' 'Yes, over there American eats there. ' I believe no one in Sosua knows what KFC is. I decided to shower after a couple of minutes more of walking looking for the KFC.

My Puerto Plata chica from yesterday called and went to my hotel. She was also hungry and after a few minutes walking we decided to enter to some place called Mora Muai or a similar name. She had a lasagna with garlic bread and salad and a soda, I ordered the grilled trio with german sausage, steak and chicken with rice and a beer. Their food was tasteless, not a place to visit again. The cost was near 25 dollars, not bad for the portions. My Puerto Plata Badoo chica came again from home, she was nice companionship. She do not ask for money in the first night but now she has a story about her cell phone not working properly, that it do not charge ok blah blah. I noticed her phone was in full charge but did not say a word. She needs an excuse to get money from me and not being branded as a puta for having sex with me and getting money. We took a walk to some streets and entered a couple of places, she wanted a piercing for near her mouth lips area but did not found one she liked.

We want back to the room and to the balcony. This time was less chat and more action. She kisses so nice and her eyes look so exciting to look, as if she really were in love with me. I took her clothes off in the balcony and began eating her pussy while she was lying over the balcony table. We moved to the bed to finish the action as good as the day before, this time with some chocolate included. She spent near an hour lying next to me after sex, kissing, hugging, talking. I gave her 2, 000 pesos to help with her cell phone problem and she was happy. Not bad. 2,000 pesos for 2 days of girl friend experience with nice sex. She gave her other phone number to call her just in case the other is not working. Another phone number? I was tempted to ask her why she was so sorry about her phone if she has another one but I never asked. Her Badoo pictures were uploaded via 'Badoo for iphone' so guess what other cell phone she has. The girl left and I went to my hotel bar to use some wi fi and drink a few beers.

I decided to hit the strip again so I walked up and down, stopped at a few strategic places to see girls and being noticed by them. I saw a couple of nice pretty petite young girls in front of the bar in the corner next to El Flow. Their names Ally and Monica. They offered me a 3some and were tempted but were also tired, they were both cute. We shared a beer and after a few minutes I continued walking. I went back to my hotel to see my country team losing to Dominican Republic in the Caribbean series so back to the strip I went again. The 3some chicas were still there, they insisted and I told them that my chica was in my hotel. 'No problem, we can go to hotel Central which is almost the place next to us' she replied. I told them maybe later.

There was this chica wearing white jeans and a small red top next to us, smiling to me. She looked in her early 30's but attractive to me. I went to say Hello, to her. We moved to the back area of the bar to be in a more private setting. We shared a beer while talking, she told me her name is Ana from Santiago. Long black her slim and a Spaniard nose. She told me one of her parents is from Spain. She told me she has lived in Puerto Rico and New York. I also told her the lie of my chica in the room so I can't fuck her but this girl seduced me with her kisses and putting her hand on the right places. I still insisted that I was in the mood for sex but she convincingly told me that she was going to do something special to me I will never forget. I was tempted so after a few more minutes of kissing and a 1, 200 pesos agreement we left the bar. We arrived to my hotel and she showed the guard her cedula, it was broken in 3 pieces. He was hesitant at first but after the 'you know me' phrase he let her in. We went up to my room and she went directly to the bathroom. She came naked from the bath and helped me to take my clothes of. Her body was slim, well trimmed, she looked nice, her tits not teenage firm but were ok. So, as she promised, she did something I will never forget: she gave me the best blow job I have received in years. She began sucking it bare back; her technique was so good that I became puertorican Rocco Sigfredi for a few minutes. She asked me: 'I am so tight you are going to hurt me, do you have some lubricant? I got some strawberry lubricant and she put some inside her and I did her missionary, woman in top, doggie. She is a dirt talker and it helped me to get excited. Suddenly she took the condom off: 'I want your leche in my mouth' she said, 'dame la lechita papi' she repeated, 'I am your puta' and some other phrases. I finally came inside her mouth and she emit a strange sound: she accidentally swallowed some of my cum. I was laughing and she told me I lied to her because I came so much that it was impossible I have had sex that day. She was good. I gave her the 1200 plus 300 pesos tip and some pesos more to her concho back to los Charamicos. I was so satisfied, with a smile on my face. I went back to the strip and saw Ally and Monica. We exchanged numbers for next day. So see you next day people.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MetcalfKieth; 1247724]Hello, everybody I am new to this site and I am looking forward to speaking to some of you on this forum.

I am 54 year old married man, overweight and on crutches due to a disability could anybody let me know if my condition will be a problem when I go to sosua, for example will I be able to get quality woman or are they fussy and only pick attractive men? Will I have to pay more than the average guy, will I be able to use my wheelchair for longer jouneys out, are the clubs reasonably accesable, many thanks in anticipation.

Kieth[/QUOTE]You can stay at New Garden in Sosua, which is no Blackbeards but does have chicas on site and of course once they know you are there these chicas can definitely bring in more action for you where you are. That way if you have issues going out you can still have fun in site.

I am going to be honest with you, the 8's and 9's in Classico / After one can be mean to anybody regardless of the person / age / color / ability, so you should not take that personally. Other than that, most of the other normal girls are sweet and amiable. So, have a good time buddy.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1248166]I woke up late in my second day in Sosua, almost at noon. I was tired after my 36 hr / 4 chicas activity. I walked to the beach at the end of my street a one minute walk. I saw a cute blonde girl seated at a bench in the park. She said Hi and asked how I was. I told her I was fine. Hum a hot tourist I thought. I asked where she was from; she told me she was from USA. 'I am here to help clean this town from sin'. Two guys arrived later and joined us, they were Mormons! 'Please do not clean the town this weekend, I have some sins to commit' I replied and left before they began to talk to me some religious shit.[/QUOTE]Living about 150 miles from Mormon central I know what a pain missionaries can be. Well all Mormons actually. Hopefully there will still be lots of sin in Sosua when I get there in March.

Thanks for the reports very much enjoyed your writing style.

It is closed.

Sunday, February 12th was the day the beach bar 'Black Box' on the beach of Sosúa for the last time closed its doors. Ad, the sympathetic owner of the beach bar, had to sign a new lease contract with the owner. But the demands of the owner for a new term now were drastically raised. One month's rent was now 23,000 pesos and he had to pay six months in advance. So he had to pay a sum of 138,000 pesos.

Ad could not and would pay this. So he decided to close the bar. But Ad has alternatives in mind. A bar or hotel in Sosúa or something in Boca Chica.

My hero! Ilove you reports. I am planning my first trip to Sosua and PP. Your report have me raring to go.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1248190]Why do I know EXACTLY what that is (Spaniard nose) , LOL? I've met a few chicas from Santiago with "beaks". I guess that is common with a lot of chicas from that area. It's actually kinda attractive on some chicas.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bogiemaker;1248222]Living about 150 miles from Mormon central I know what a pain missionaries can be. Well all Mormons actually. Hopefully there will still be lots of sin in Sosua when I get there in March.[/QUOTE]Well, with Mormons, it would be relatively easy. Just speak to them about their FLDS church and its leader who got jailed for marrying young women. Besides, when you can marry (secretly or not) more than once, there is no "sin" but you get to enjoy new flesh, unlike the other churches and indeed most religions.

I came back to the hotel after 2:00 am I chatted a little with security guard of hotel El Rancho. He is a guy who takes his work seriously. To let a girl in you have to leave the girl cedula and also sign a document that makes you responsible for in room damage caused by your companion. He told me they only had an incident in the hotel in last 18 months. It was a Haitian girl who left the room and asked for her I. The guard asked for the guy, a man from USA and she replied he was sleeping. The guard insisted he can't give her the I. Dback until he is sure the guy is ok. So they went up and he asked the guy, the guy told everything was ok. The guard told the guy he always has to escort the girl out of the hotel. The girl left with her I. The. Minutes later the guy went down the lobby, the girl stole him over a hundred dollars. It was too late, the girl already left. I have my technique with my valuables, if for example I am in the bathroom which may be the only moment the chica will be alone in the room if she touch something she is going to make a lot of noise because of plastics, metals, keys that are protecting my valuables. They are also always inside a closet, nothing left at sight, the maid can make my room in minutes. I felt very welcome and well serviced in El Rancho. The guy who owns the place, I believe he is European, the girl I believe manages the place, a blonde woman, the guard, the kitten and the Chihuahua, they all were very nice to me.

I left El Rancho to move for a last night in Sosua to hotel Sosua Bay. It was a risky move in mongering terms because I moved to the All Inclusive part of the hotel so no guests allowed. My original intention was to take a chica for a day with me since the room price was for 2. I got an excellent deal on Expedia, $57. 60 all inclusive for two. I was thinking of inviting the Badoo Puerto Plata chica to stay with me but then I realized that I have seen her twice, seen her again will be considered a long term relationship which usually is not good so I decided not to share my room.

I arrived to the hotel at noon but I will not be able to check in until 3:00 pm. A woman next to me was arguing because the 15% discount she got on internet was not being honored. She finally get her discount and paid only $125 per night for a room similar to mine. She was happy with her 15% discount and I was happy with my 60% discount. They put me on the all inclusive bracelet, I left my bags at lobby and went to the buffet lunch. Food variety was not great, but the food was the best I tasted on Sosua. Delicious meats grilled to order, pork chops, beef steaks, fish, plus rice, potato, salad, chicken, soups, bread, desserts, the usual. They serve bottled Brahma beer, always ice cold and it was good. They also make great hamburgers in the beach bar and grill. The room was nice, international brand hotel quality, clean, comfortable king bed, with excellent a / see, clean and comfortable bath, cable t / v, safe, balcony with sea view. The girl who served me at the buffet was a pretty black girl, I joked with her and leave her a 50 pesos tip. I believe the hotel is having economic problems, the other buffet restaurant that is in the Victorian something area do not open the night before because as a bartender told me they have not gotten their pay in weeks. The hotel is on a cliff, lots of stairs, the room buildings do not have elevators. They have free wi fi in lobby area. The room has a mini fridge with bottled water and soda for free.

It was Super Bowl Sunday so big screens were on early today. I am not a football fan and do not know the game rules but there are Puerto ricans in both Super bowl finalists so I decided to see the game and join to the game emotion. I celebrated the Victor Cruz touchdown and his salsa dancing. Go Giants! As I wrote earlier I do not understand football rules so I never understood why a Giants played who got the last Giants points was trying to evade crossing the line, gravity forces made him falling to cross the line for six points. Previous to that play a Giants player made an spectacular catch. The game ends, Giants win, some people happy, some not. I spend half the game watching the girls walking up and down the street. Some eye candy there. I went back to my all inclusive hotel for some food. Delicious dinner buffet. The Mexican restaurant was open but they use the reservations system so I can't get in. I took a shower, watched some TV, went to the bar to have a few beers and went to the strip. I saw the 3some girls, Ally and Monica, they wanted 2, 000 pesos each, I offered them 1, 000 pesos each, they told me no. It was tempting but I was not in the mood to risk 4, 000 pesos plus room and drinks with no guarantee of a spectacular night. The girl from yesterday night, Ana, called me several times but I was in the mood to try somebody else. Ally and Monica called me later to reach into an agreement but I politely declined. I decided to go to Classicos, not much people there but they began to arrive and an hour later the place was packed. The place did a lot of money, lots of American guys buying 4, 000 pesos bottles of vodka, tequila, whisky celebrating the Giants victory. There were pretty girls all over the place but the selection of chicas was not as good as two days ago. I saw one of the girls I offered a drink on my first day (see day one report) , she asked me why I left without buying her drink. I told her that there were so many people inside the disco that I did not found the bars and got lost, that I tried to go back to her but I ended going outside the disco and never found the path back. She believed me as I put my 'believe me I am telling the truth face' but she asked for her drink. I tell her I am sorry but I was waiting for a chica and do not want problems if she sees me paying drinks to another girl. She said ok and that I know where to find her if need some fucki fucki. Minutes later Mirely, the poison chica from last day went to me an asked why I never called her. Don't call me and she left without saying more. Crazy chica. I spend my time looking the scene, watching music. A blind guy entered the place and began to grab some ass. Now I have seen everything. But he has not. But he is having fun.

I went out the place and walked in direction to el Flow. I saw a cute chica inside. Pretty tall girl, white, long black hair, wearing a red skirt and white blouse. She does not dress like a puta, she was sexy but not vulgar, her look was an Amelia Vega (former Miss Universe from Santiago) look. I went to her and said Hello. We chatted a little and noticed she is like Amelia Vega with half her IQ. She was a campo (rural zone) girl from Moca, near Santiago place, so I realized her strange talking manner was not because she was a hardcore girl but because she is a campo chica with lack of superior education. She asked me to escort her to Classicos because there was a Politur guy nearby and that she can't walk there alone. She told me in recent months she has been sent to 'el piso' twice, meaning that she has been jailed twice in recent operations against chicas in Sosua. I escorted her to Classicos but I believe she really wanted to offer her services to me, duh! She never did a formal offer but I asked her. We agreed on 1500 pesos. I told her I was in Sosua Bay and showed her my bracelet. She moved her watch a little down and showed me a Sosua Bay bracelet. Lucky me, she was staying at the same hotel. She was not. She lives in Los Charamicos as she told me earlier. She conserved her bracelet from a previous stay, so to Sosua Bay we went. We had no problems entering and going to my room. The girl looks prettier naked. She has small breasts, A cup but a nice round ass. She kissed me without asking, nice. She gave me a BBBJ, had sex in different positions, I came but continued fucking her for a couple of minutes. I removed my condom, she went to the bath, she asked for some water and then she turned on the TV, she watched some programs for about 30 minutes and left my room. I was satisfied. I decided to sleep to wake up early so that ended my night. I noticed a few missed calls in my dominican cell phone. It was a Badoo chica from Cabarete that I wanted to see, but my Sosua schedule was so busy that I didn't have time for her. Sorry girl, see you next time. There is going to be a next time.

BO great reports. It's very interesting to read a report from a person that speaks and undestands full Spanish. The girls scheming on poisoning mongers was crazy. Glad your having a great time in the SU. U know your in paradise when your turning down pussy left and right. If that doesn't boost a mans ego nothing will LOL.

Wrx2005 Good reports as well. U were all over the place in the reports but it sounded like you had a good adventure. Now about Cristals. I didn't know that Cristals had a pool. And you paid how much again to take a broad out of Cristals. 5300pesos? MY DEAR GOD! At that price U add another 1000peso and you can fuck a hot Vegas blond LOL.

Naw but seriously next time get her number on the low and have her come to you during the day for considerably less then what you just paid. Also it was a little weird that you brought a hunny to stay with you at BB. I believe Sir Charles talk about this on the other board about bringing sand to the beach. I'm not a big fan of BB but if your stayin there it seems pointless in brining in talent from the outside. Hell you might as well try out the menu atleast once. But in the end as long as you had fun down there then it's all good.

And on a side note, Mr. Gogo I done think the Sosua board is back to prominence. Now if we can get Grandnash to finish his reporting with Mr. E's adventure coming soon we can upgrade that Sosua board from prominence to Nostalgia

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1248406]Sorry girl, see you next time. There is going to be a next time.[/QUOTE]Glad to see we have a new Sosua convert!

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1248406]I left El Rancho to move for a last night in Sosua to hotel Sosua Bay...Food variety was not great, but the food was the best I tasted on Sosua. Delicious meats grilled to order, pork chops, beef steaks, fish, plus rice, potato, salad, chicken, soups, bread, desserts, the usual. They serve bottled Brahma beer, always ice cold and it was good. They also make great hamburgers in the beach bar and grill.[/QUOTE]Would anyone happen to know if they let outsiders (those not staying at the hotel) pay to enter the buffet at Sosua Bay?

[QUOTE=Coolie High;1248450]Now about Cristals. I didn't know that Cristals had a pool. And you paid how much again to take a broad out of Cristals. 5300pesos? MY DEAR GOD! At that price U add another 1000peso and you can fuck a hot Vegas blond LOL.[/QUOTE]I guess it is worth repeating again that when a taxi driver takes you to a place like Cristal, if you take a girl, he will get a finders fee of 500 pesos or maybe 1000 pesos, not sure which, it used to be 500 but may be more now, so really you are paying him for this. It may not matter to you if saving money is not an important consideration. Not everyone is a cheap-ass skinflint. However it is best to know. If you wanted to go to Cristals and negotiate a better price, you might do better to take a taxi to Portofino restaurant and then walk across the road to Cristal once the taxista is out of sight. However, really when you think about the price you are paying for a girl you should take into account her fee plus the cost of any taxis or nightclub drinks purchased. To my mind these factors are what makes Sosua, where most of the girls are freelancers, a particularly good place for a vacation with sex.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1247809]I don't want to sound like a shill for Blackbeard's (again) , but maybe you should look at staying there instead. Classico's (the main attraction) is not wheelchair accessible and you definitely don't want to be trying to roll around on the fucked up streets of Sosua (as in potholes and such) being harrassed by hustlers and beggars.

Go to the Puerto Plata forum and ask the guys over there about Blackbeard's adult resort. Everything you need is on site (women, food, booze, bed) and you will never have to leave unless to go back to the airport. Let them know of your situation and request a room on the first floor. Plus there is a set pricing structure for sex with women at Blackbeard's, so you will not be paying any more or any less than the next guy.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply I have considered blackbeards but thought it would be cheaper in sosua with more attractive ladies? Am looking for all night long ladies any idea how much that costs, thanks.

[quote=frannie; 1247825]there are men on the sosua scene in wheelchairs, so clearly it is wheelchair navigable, however you would need to be agile enough to run the wheelchair in the road on not on the sidewalks which are too rough and have other obstructions like lamp posts and street signs, dogs sleeping, or gutters draining onto them in rainy weather. there are a few speed bumps in the roads, but not many pot holes. at the junctions of roads there is a two inch gap that is ok as long as you cross at 90 degrees. there are also a couple of local guys in wheelchairs who sit outside the pharmacy and collect money in paper cups, so the sight of a person in a wheelchair is nothing out of the ordinary in sosua.

i have ridden a bicycle over every street in sosua and all the main roads have a fairly smooth surface. there is not a lot of traffic within the town.

most of the clubs and restaurants are accessible, but the classico disco has a wide staircase that is not suited for wheelchairs, although accessible with crutches. my overall impression regarding the women is that they want men who will not give them a hard time or demand too much, who will treat them nicely, and who will pay the agreed upon price. as far as the sexual side, most of them are pretty obliging and their priority is more that the man they are with admires them and tells them that they are beautiful than the other way around. i don't think you will have to pay more than the average guy. just tell them you always get a 20% descuento from the other girls because you are disabled. generally a bit of humor and a joke goes a long way. most of the girls are pretty simple souls and eager to please.

you mention that you are married. will your wife be pushing the wheel chair? that might cramp your style. if you have a male pusher, you should not have problems.[/quote]thanks for the reply it was very usefull, am not taking my wife with me i usually self propell, was considering finding some help there if it was cheap enough, thanks again.

[QUOTE=Kman1; 1248209]You can stay at New Garden in Sosua, which is no Blackbeards but does have chicas on site and of course once they know you are there these chicas can definitely bring in more action for you where you are. That way if you have issues going out you can still have fun in site.

I am going to be honest with you, the 8's and 9's in Classico / After one can be mean to anybody regardless of the person / age / color / ability, so you should not take that personally. Other than that, most of the other normal girls are sweet and amiable. So, have a good time buddy.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply, did I read it right, there are girls in New Garden if so do you have any idea how much they charge and how pretty are they, thanks again.

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1248450]BO great reports. It's very interesting to read a report from a person that speaks and undestands full Spanish. The girls scheming on poisoning mongers was crazy. Glad your having a great time in the SU. U know your in paradise when your turning down pussy left and right. If that doesn't boost a mans ego nothing will LOL.

Wrx2005 Good reports as well. U were all over the place in the reports but it sounded like you had a good adventure. Now about Cristals. I didn't know that Cristals had a pool. And you paid how much again to take a broad out of Cristals. 5300pesos? MY DEAR GOD! At that price U add another 1000peso and you can fuck a hot Vegas blond LOL.

Naw but seriously next time get her number on the low and have her come to you during the day for considerably less then what you just paid. Also it was a little weird that you brought a hunny to stay with you at BB. I believe Sir Charles talk about this on the other board about bringing sand to the beach. I'm not a big fan of BB but if your stayin there it seems pointless in brining in talent from the outside. Hell you might as well try out the menu atleast once. But in the end as long as you had fun down there then it's all good.

And on a side note, Mr. Gogo I done think the Sosua board is back to prominence. Now if we can get Grandnash to finish his reporting with Mr. E's adventure coming soon we can upgrade that Sosua board from prominence to Nostalgia[/QUOTE]Yes, enjoyed both reports as well and getting fired up for my 2nd trip to DR and first to Sousa next month. I have been mongoring for a long time but more frequent of late (Medellin, Colombia). I feel like I might get Subic Bay, Phillipines flashbacks with so many chicks about the dicks. It will be like taking a jitney to Olangapo City and staying at the Marmont Hotel. Oh the days.

I will be going down with a veteran DR and Sousa mongor. So, until then, all I can do is read the reports and get my intel going. So, thanks guys, keep it "cuming" and Be safe! The Navys Fault

Do anybody knows if hotel seabreeze has wifi?

[QUOTE=Stebo419;1248648]Do anybody knows if hotel seabreeze has wifi?[/QUOTE]I have a funny answer for that: yes they have. How do I know if I stayed at El Rancho instead of Seabreeze? I turned on my laptop into my room and Seabreeze wi fi signal was received strong into my room.

[QUOTE=MetcalfKieth;1248562]Thanks for the reply, did I read it right, there are girls in New Garden if so do you have any idea how much they charge and how pretty are they, thanks again.[/QUOTE]Chicas hang out around the NG pool / bar from late morning to early evening. Certainly not top tier chicas in the looks department but most provided adequate service. On my first trip I got tired of dealing with the 'strip' and wifed up with a dual NG team for 3 nights. Had a blast. Back in December they asked for the world but settled for 1000 pesos ST. I offered 1000 pesos for ST on a 'take it or leave it' bases both at the NG and on the street. Had no problem finding takers. Also had no touble finding chicas in the bars willing to accept my 2000 TLN offers. Bet the NG chicas would also accept 2000 for TLN.

[QUOTE=MetcalfKieth;1248555]Thanks for your reply I have considered blackbeards but thought it would be cheaper in sosua with more attractive ladies? Am looking for all night long ladies any idea how much that costs, thanks.[/QUOTE]Blackbeard's has a set pricing structure: 1500RD (about $40) for short time and 3000RD (about $80).

As far as attractive ladies, you definitely need to go to their webpage and subscribe to their monthly free newsletter so that you can see for yourself the talent they have on site (google Blackbeard's adult resort puerto plata). It is a vast improvement since I was there in '08, but even at that time the talent was still pretty good. I also had no problem finding GFE while there because (for the most part) all of the chicas aim to please. The mamasan even made me fill out a survey the night before I left, lol (I wrote down that one of the chicas I was with needed a bit more instruction because she put too much teeth in while giving head).

It would also be good if you booked there doing a weekend when they are having the bikini contest (I think it is every other weekend; the dates are in the newsletter). There are some guys on this board that drive or take a taxi to there from Sosua just to watch it, lol!

FYI: another monger mentioned that you can stay at New Garden in Sosua and sample the talent hanging around the pool area. Trust me when I tell you that you would be highly disappointed relying on this option. The chicas there are nothing to write home about. They also do not work for New Garden so they come and go during the day/week/month as they please. Blackbeard's has a day shift and night shift of chicas that come to the resort to hang out. If you saw a chica on the day shift that you could not get around to (like if you were already occupied with a chica) you could catch her the next day. Consistency is what you want.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1246155]. A 10 minute wait and next stop: Puerto Plata. We arrived to Puerto Plata near 3:00 pm and changed buses there and half an hour later I arrived to Sosua. Thanks to Jao for the Sosua bus map, Metro station is just in the entrance of El Batey area in the corner of Clisante and Rosen.[/QUOTE]Metro has 3 SOS (Sosua) buses scheduled everyday according to their website [url]http://www.metroserviciosturisticos.com/rutas_horarios.html[/url], do you have to change bus at POP even if you get one of these! Or do you change bus at POP when you get the ones scheduled for POP only. Anyone knows this?

[QUOTE=MetcalfKieth;1248555]Thanks for your reply I have considered blackbeards but thought it would be cheaper in sosua with more attractive ladies? Am looking for all night long ladies any idea how much that costs, thanks.[/QUOTE]I split my last trip between Sosua and Black Beards. It was my first visit to Black Beards and I enjoyed my stay. The chicas and everything else you need is right there. The BB chicas are first class and defiantly take care of you. In Sosua you have to be very careful. A lot of the Sosua chicas are con artists, thieves, and opportunists. They may see you as an easy target. Using Classicos and the NG as bench marks the cost of food, liquor and lodging at BB is similar. The chicas do get premium prices which are fixed at 1600ST and 3000TLN. But ST sessions are not rushed and a TLN can last from early evening to noon the next day. I read on some board where a guy kept a chica 24 hours for 4500 poses. Most of the rooms & the disco which is open Thursday, Friday & Saturday nights are up a flight of stairs and I did not see an elevator. The first floor rooms are two bedroon suites. This may present a problem for you. Send BB's an email and explain your limitations. I'm sure they will respond with a solution. Also contact the mamasan. She should be able to give you some advice and suggestions.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1248718]FYI: another monger mentioned that you can stay at New Garden in Sosua and sample the talent hanging around the pool area. Trust me when I tell you that you would be highly disappointed relying on this option. The chicas there are nothing to write home about. They also do not work for New Garden so they come and go during the day/week/month as they please. Blackbeard's has a day shift and night shift of chicas that come to the resort to hang out. If you saw a chica on the day shift that you could not get around to (like if you were already occupied with a chica) you could catch her the next day. Consistency is what you want.[/QUOTE]I have been to BB's & Sosua many times and I enjoy them both. But come on-I stay at the NG, but there is a lot more to Sosua than the talent at the NG. Also, though I agree with what you say about the usual talent at the NG, I find that almost everyday there are a few surprises that come in that are better than the usual.

[QUOTE=MetcalfKieth;1248562]Thanks for the reply, did I read it right, there are girls in New Garden if so do you have any idea how much they charge and how pretty are they, thanks again.[/QUOTE]I have never been to Blackbeards but that should definitely be much easier for you. But, if you wanted to experience Sosua, NG would be a good place to stay. Though there may only be a few girls inside the hotel itself, just by sitting at the restaurant facing the street you would see honies walking by during the day. All you have to do is smile or wave. The prices are similar to Blackbeards (for ST and TLN, though you can bargain in Sosua, nothing is fixed). To get a hot one for an all nighter and to choose from a variety you must be able to get out on the main street. Even if you cannot go up to the Classico disco you will still find plenty in the bars on the street level. But again you are going to be exposed to a lot of different kinds of people on the street other than chicas (traffic, motoconcho guys, vendors, hustlers, aggressive chicas) etc. So, it depends on how comfortable you are with those.

Blackbeards will provide you with a safe and controlled environment with the certain number of chicas (Presume 40 to 50?). So defintely SavePros is giving you good advice.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1248453]Would anyone happen to know if they let outsiders (those not staying at the hotel) pay to enter the buffet at Sosua Bay?[/QUOTE]$13 for the breakfast. I don't know if there is an option on the other meals. I know it is not possible to purchase drinks and such. The bartenders do not have anything to do with money. You would have to be part of the all inclusive program for that. I will ask for sure when I get there tomorrow though.

[QUOTE=Kman1;1248760]Even if you cannot go up to the Classico disco you will still find plenty in the bars on the street level.[/QUOTE]I have observed that every chica who is upstairs in Classico disco gets there by walking up the stairs, and that all who leave do so by walking down the stairs or going head first. Therefore by stategically positioning yourself at the corner of the Merengue Bar near the foot of the staircase and the ticket office for the Classico disco, you can intercept any chica planning to go up the disco and save her 200 pesos, which is $5, by wiggling your nose, grabbing your crotch like Michael Jackson, and saying "Ficky ficky mil pesos?" or whatever is your most seductive line of chat.

[QUOTE=MetcalfKieth;1248558]Thanks for the reply it was very usefull, am not taking my wife with me I usually self propell, was considering finding some help there if it was cheap enough, thanks again.[/QUOTE]No, I think it is best not to take the wife as she may not fit in with the Sosua scene unless she is a loud-mouthed, wizened bottle blonde with nicotine stained fingers who can pass for a local expatriate wife. You may be able to find a local wheelchair pusher to help you get around. The trick is to get someone who is not a hustler or pimp taking commissions from girls for introductions to you.

[QUOTE=Uzinuzin; 1248726]Metro has 3 SOS (Sosua) buses scheduled everyday according to their website.

[url]http://www.metroserviciosturisticos.com/rutas_horarios.html[/url]

, do you have to change bus at POP even if you get one of these! Or do you change bus at POP when you get the ones scheduled for POP only. Anyone knows this?[/QUOTE]The bus that leaves from Santo Domingo to Sosua make stops in Santiago and Puerto Plata. The bus, which is very large can not fit into the small Metro bus station in Sosua so we have to change to a smaller one.

[QUOTE=Bimmy5;1248755]I have been to BB's & Sosua many times and I enjoy them both. But come on-I stay at the NG, but there is a lot more to Sosua than the talent at the NG.[/QUOTE]I agree with you, but MetcalKieth uses a wheelchair and crutches. We were suggesting Blackbeard's and FOD as a place he should visit that will allow him to have just as much fun without all of the hassle. For instance, he would not be able to enter Classicos in a wheelchair and he definitely is not going to be trying to wheel himself all the way down the street to La Passions. It's already far enough just walking on foot.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1248792]$13 for the breakfast. I don't know if there is an option on the other meals. I know it is not possible to purchase drinks and such. The bartenders do not have anything to do with money. You would have to be part of the all inclusive program for that. I will ask for sure when I get there tomorrow though.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info Mr. E!

[QUOTE=Uzinuzin; 1248726]Metro has 3 SOS (Sosua) buses scheduled everyday according to their website.

[url]http://www.metroserviciosturisticos.com/rutas_horarios.html[/url]

, do you have to change bus at POP even if you get one of these! Or do you change bus at POP when you get the ones scheduled for POP only. Anyone knows this?[/QUOTE]I took a Sosua direct from Santiago in September - 9.00 AM if I recall. The bus stopped at Puerto Plata at the terminal and then continued on to Sosua, no change of bus was involved. It was the same on the way back.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1248794]I have observed that every chica who is upstairs in Classico disco gets there by walking up the stairs, and that all who leave do so by walking down the stairs or going head first. Therefore by stategically positioning yourself at the corner of the Merengue Bar near the foot of the staircase and the ticket office for the Classico disco, you can intercept any chica planning to go up the disco and save her 200 pesos, which is $5, by wiggling your nose, grabbing your crotch like Michael Jackson, and saying "Ficky ficky mil pesos?" or whatever is your most seductive line of chat.[/QUOTE]Sensible advice. I second that. Actually there are others who do that. Position themselves strategically, grab their drinks and stare at the stairs and do the seductive line, if they found their paramour for the night.

Oh, Loved the Michael Jackson bit. White gloves though! LOL.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1248863]I took a Sosua direct from Santiago in September - 9.00 AM if I recall. The bus stopped at Puerto Plata at the terminal and then continued on to Sosua, no change of bus was involved. It was the same on the way back.[/QUOTE]Sometimes they change to airport shuttle size buses at Puerto Plata, and sometimes the big buses go on to Sosua. It might have to do with how many tickets have been sold, I don't know.

[QUOTE] Originally Posted by Tempoecorto
I took a Sosua direct from Santiago in September - 9.00 AM if I recall. The bus stopped at Puerto Plata at the terminal and then continued on to Sosua, no change of bus was involved. It was the same on the way back.
[QUOTE]
Sometimes they change to airport shuttle size buses at Puerto Plata, and sometimes the big buses go on to Sosua. It might have to do with how many tickets have been sold, I don't know.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

Thanks for the replies. Yes, I have also seen both the small shuttle ones and the large buses parked at their Sosua Metro station (next to the gas station). So some come straight and some don't.

I was just trying to find out if there's a specific service (pain to drag luggage and change bus. And delay). But as you say it might not have to do with the service but number of passengers. I think I might just give them a ring.

Frannie's opinion about buses makes sense and should be the correct answer. Changing buses takes just a couple of minutes, no big deal and it gives you time to go to the bath or buy some drinks or food in the bus station.

It is Monday, my last morning in Sosua, already bought a Metro bus ticket back to Santo Domingo. 380 pesos. My bus leaves at 1:20 pm After a succulent breakfast buffet at Sosua Bay, I decided to have a last adventure in Sosua so I walked the streets in search of early bird chicas. Just after a couple of minutes I saw the chica I was with last night, the chica from Moca, she was wearing mini short jeans, a white shirt, the same high heels pink shoes from yesterday night. She was with another guy. She saw me and looks a little ashamed but continued walking I believe to hotel Central. I continued walking the Sosua streets but there was not much early in a morning on Monday. I spent my last couple of hours in the hotel drinking beers and eating their tasty hamburgers. It was 1:20 pm when I said goodbye to Sosua.

I liked Sosua a lot, I had not bad experiences but I believe the ingredients for danger are present there, maybe I am over cautious or lucky because I have never had any major problem in the D. R. In a couple of dozen trips I have had. Most girls are for sure not problematic, but I sensed there are a few who will cause you hard times, as for example the girl I described as the poison chica in previous reports. She went to me with not a nice attitude in Classicos because I did not called her. I talk to the chicas before taking a decision, sometimes more than once.

Some tourist do not behave well. There was an overweight guy in El Flow yelling and making noises, he was like crazy, maybe excited, drunk or drugged. A guy was flashing a big wad of money in Classicos, not a good idea. The guys at the exchange casas were offering 38 pesos per dollar. I got 38. 75 at Franks in Santo Domingo, thankfully I changed enough money in Franks. Once I said no to the 38 per peso offering they raised the offer to 38. 50 in just seconds. Thieves! The girls told me Sosua is a dangerous place, not referring to el Batey were most hotels are but to Sosua in general, including the barrios and surrounding areas. Traffic accidents occur with a relatively high frecuency in the main road, the Badoo chica I dated twice told me of an accident in the road from Puerto Plata to Sosua, there were a couple ambulances. More than half of the accidents involve motoconchos.

My experience at El Rancho was good. I also like that electricity never went off in Sosua during my stay. I did not visit La Pasion, I never found the place but it was not necessary. There were plenty of freelancers that satisfied my needs. I do not see many Haitians freelancers, I believe 9 out of 10 at least were Dominicans. Maybe the 'Hello, massages' girls from the massage parlors were mostly Haitians.

I asked a couple of chicas about the Rockys world famous ribs. They know nothing about the world famous ribs. Maybe they are world famous ribs but not Sosua famous ribs. I will travel to some countries around the world asking for the Rockys world famous ribs.

Sosua is a good place to visit with a fellow monger, can be funnier than traveling alone.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1249148]I asked a couple of chicas about the Rockys world famous ribs. They know nothing about the world famous ribs. Maybe they are world famous ribs but not Sosua famous ribs. I will travel to some countries around the world asking for the Rockys world famous ribs.[/QUOTE]

Enjoyed reading your reports thoroughly - here and the SD forum and in particular, enjoyed your sense of humor. Let us know when you have found connoisseurs of Rockys ribs across the globe! LOL.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1248816]The bus that leaves from Santo Domingo to Sosua make stops in Santiago and Puerto Plata. The bus, which is very large can not fit into the small Metro bus station in Sosua so we have to change to a smaller one.[/QUOTE]I took the Metrobus from Santo Domingo yesterday. It stopped in Santiago for maybe 10 minutes, then it stopped in POP for a few minutes, then it stopped in Sosua.

I didn't have to get off the large bus at all. I should have planned better though. Some taxi guy said just show up at the station and buy a ticket.

I was assuming it left SDQ every hour or so like the Caribe bus does. I took the Caribe bus from SDQ to Sosua about 4 months ago.

I showed up to the Metrobus station a little before 1PM. I think a bus was about to leave but they didn't give me a ticket for it. They gave me a ticket for 4PM.

I was thinking to myself."damn. Big dummy!" I called Jao and he said take a taxi to his hotel and I could hang out there for awhile, so it wasn't so bad.

But anyways, the same big bus went from Santo Domingo to Sosua. I took some GPS marks on my iPhone at the all of the Metrobus stops of anyone needs them. I was somehow lost and disorientated when I got to Sosua even though I looked at my iPhone map. I agreed for a taxi to take me to the New Garden for 150 pesos. I thought that was cheap.

After he drove about 30 seconds I realized where I was and I was like damn! I could have walked to the New Garden in a few minutes. But I do have a fairly large suitcase, so, walking down the street past the chicas with a big suitcase and back pack isn't the sort of attention I like.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1249148]It is Monday, my last morning in Sosua, already bought a Metro bus ticket back to Santo Domingo. 380 pesos. My bus leaves at 1:20 pm After a succulent breakfast buffet at Sosua Bay, I decided to have a last adventure in Sosua so I walked the streets in search of early bird chicas. Just after a couple of minutes I saw the chica I was with last night, the chica from Moca, she was wearing mini short jeans, a white shirt, the same high heels pink shoes from yesterday night. She was with another guy. She saw me and looks a little ashamed but continued walking I believe to hotel Central. I continued walking the Sosua streets but there was not much early in a morning on Monday. I spent my last couple of hours in the hotel drinking beers and eating their tasty hamburgers. It was 1:20 pm when I said goodbye to Sosua.[/QUOTE]A good tactic is to fill your phone with phone numbers of potential lays. Those girls you felt up in Clasicos your first night could have been potentials, LOL. You should have just gotten all of their numbers so that you could have options on your last day.

I usually leave Sosua on Sundays and I have never flown out of there before banging my last chica on Sunday mornings. They are usually just right down the street in Charamicos (unless they are with a guy from the previous night; which is why you should get multiple numbers). Usually I do TLN on Saturday night so that I have a Sunday morning lay, but on a couple occasions I have called a chica to come over Sunday morning and get one in before heading to the airport later that afternoon. BUT, it is usually better to do this with a chica you have already banged or had dealings with before on a previous day so that there are no suprises.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1249184]A good tactic is to fill your phone with phone numbers of potential lays. .[/QUOTE]I have the poison chica number, the 3some girls number, Spaniard nose chica number, a couple of other chicas numbers. I feel stupid now, LOL.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;1249179]I took the Metrobus from Santo Domingo yesterday. It stopped in Santiago for maybe 10 minutes, then it stopped in POP for a few minutes, then it stopped in Sosua.[/QUOTE]Man clear out your inbox. Trying to send you a PM. Or get my number from Jao. I tried to do that internet thing online but I couldn't. I went to the Claro office and the guy said I have to go back everyday if I want to do it per day. I arrived here in Sosua last night. And which GPS program are you using? I had to download one the other night when I was lost in Zona Colonial but that shit didn't work. I take it you didn't trade phones with that chica the other night.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1249318]Man clear out your inbox. Trying to send you a PM. Or get my number from Jao. I tried to do that internet thing online but I couldn't. I went to the Claro office and the guy said I have to go back everyday if I want to do it per day. I arrived here in Sosua last night. And which GPS program are you using? I had to download one the other night when I was lost in Zona Colonial but that shit didn't work. I take it you didn't trade phones with that chica the other night.[/QUOTE]He got the latest apple iphone from the satin dolls chica, he did the transfer of photos and music with his laptop, as we sat in satin dolls, took about an hour. The map thing (on the iphone) came in handy, when I drove him to the metro station for his trip to sosua, he was able to tell me when to turn.

I know most of this shit needs to be on the Boca Chica thread but I'm putting it here.

I went scuba diving in Boca Chica yesterday morning. I was supposed to do an afternoon session as well but I said fuck it. I was ready to get up to Sosua. It was only 11:30 so I called up a girl I met on Dominican Cupid the day before who lives in San Pedro de Macoris. She told me it was only 30 minutes from Boca Chica. I wanted to go check out Juan Dolio, which is on the way, anyway. I finally got to San Pedro and called the girl. Now she tells me she lives in a place called Consuelo. What the fuck? There was a lot of me driving around asking people where was Consuelo. We kept calling back and forth with me asking her why she can't just come meet me where I was since this was not my territory. I ended up telling her that I was just going to leave and never call her again. Then I finally found the little town. I parked in front of the health center and told her where I was. She didn't seem to understand so I gave the phone to a motoconcho guy. She finally came up to meet me, her cousin in tow. I asked her what didn't she understand about "Centro de Salud." We went back to her house and I will be damn if it wasn't on the same street as the health center about 1km away. These Dominicans. I fucked around with her for a few minutes but when she rejected my idea of going to a cabana I made an excuse that I had to take my friend to Puerto Plata.

Dammit. On my drive there I saw a nice chica in a blue dress on the side of the highway trying to get a ride. As usual I was driving too fast to stop. I regretted it because she was sexy. So on the way back I saw another chica on the opposite side of the highway. I didn't want to pass up the opportunity to say I have mongered with the chicas on the outskirts of Juan Dolio so I got off at the next exit and turned around. While driving I put all of my valuables up and just kept 400 pesos accessible. I could not remember the going rate for that venue but figured that was enough. She got in the car, total hood rat, and said she was going to San Pedro. I started squeezing on her tits and said well I'm not going that far. I'm on my way up north. She told me to pull off on a dirt road but as usual going to fast again. She pulled my dick out and started sucking it. I saw a road off the highway where it appears they store road construction supplies and went down it to park. This girl gives some smoking head. All of a sudden a dump truck is coming towards us but I let her suck away. I threw up a peace sign as he passed. Then another worker started walking down the road towards the car. I turned around and went another couple hundred meters toward the highway. A couple of minutes later I saw him in my rearview again still walking towards the car. I had to hurry up and blow my load and get the fuck out of there. She took it like a champ. I dropped her off at a gas station and gave her the 400 pesos. She wanted 200 more. I told her that she better get the fuck out with that 400. She tried to give me her number for I don't know what, wanting me to call her the next day. I think it was to bring her 200 more pesos or something. I told her that I would pass.

I hit the road again and stopped for gas at the Shell in Boca Chica. I told the guy to fill it up. It came to 902 and I handed him 1000. Why did this mf act like he didn't owe me any change? After a couple of minutes I had to call him out. He then gave me 50 pesos in coins from the top of the pump. I said that I want all of my change. He gave me 40 more from the same place. Fuck it, I'm already late as hell because I'm trying to beat the darkness so I don't have time for these bullshit games. I let him keep the 8 and I drove off. I got to the entrance of La Samana highway at 4:35. I arrived at the end in Nagua at 5:41. At 7pm darkness caught up with me. I was still a ways from Sosua and had to go down these crazy ass pothole streets in pitch darkness except for dim ass motorcycle lights and Dominicans driving SUVs in both directions with their Hi beams on. I arrived in Sosua at 7:45.

I never make reservations. I just always show up. I went to Sosua Bay and guess what? No rooms! The girl said it usually happens on the weekends. Guys check in on Friday and leave out Sunday. I guess I don't spend many weekends in Sosua. I decided to go over to the Europa and if that didn't work just call one of my girls in Puerto Plata and act like I came early to surprise her and stay at her house. I'm staying there Sunday and Monday anyway so I would just switched my planned Sosua days. Well the Europa had rooms. I paid $90 for 2 nights ($45 per night). They even have wifi in the rooms now and 13 inch flat screen TVs in a 14X16 room. Works for me. I don't watch TV anyway.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1249158]Enjoyed reading your reports thoroughly - here and the SD forum and in particular, enjoyed your sense of humor. Let us know when you have found connoisseurs of Rockys ribs across the globe! LOL.[/QUOTE]Just my opinion but the one time I went to Rocky's the food sucked. I went with three other people and we each got something different including the ribs and it was horrible, I thought the ribs were the worst of the four meals and I know a little bit about ribs from once being part owner of a smokehouse / BBQ place.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1249344] So on the way back I saw another chica on the opposite side of the highway. I didn't want to pass up the opportunity to say I have mongered with the chicas on the outskirts of Juan Dolio so I got off at the next exit and turned around. While driving I put all of my valuables up and just kept 400 pesos accessible. I could not remember the going rate for that venue but figured that was enough. She got in the car, total hood rat, and said she was going to San Pedro. I started squeezing on her tits and said well I'm not going that far. I'm on my way up north. She told me to pull off on a dirt road but as usual going to fast again. She pulled my dick out and started sucking it....

I hit the road again and stopped for gas at the Shell in Boca Chica. I told the guy to fill it up. I got to the entrance of La Samana highway at 4:35. I arrived at the end in Nagua at 5:41. At 7pm darkness caught up with me. I was still a ways from Sosua and had to go down these crazy ass pothole streets in pitch darkness except for dim ass motorcycle lights and Dominicans driving SUVs in both directions with their Hi beams on. I arrived in Sosua at 7:45.[/QUOTE]I enjoyed this one. A) because it was all about sudden impulses and serendipity and be) written the way life unfurled. I also followed the map, to get a feel of the back and forth directions and the driving you did. You drove like hell? Would like to do that trip one time, coming up from santo domingo and go towards las terrenas and who knows how often one can get lucky without planning? LOL.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1249349]Just my opinion but the one time I went to Rocky's the food sucked. I went with three other people and we each got something different including the ribs and it was horrible, I thought the ribs were the worst of the four meals and I know a little bit about ribs from once being part owner of a smokehouse / BBQ place.[/QUOTE]I usually just come here to Rocky's for the breakfast if I miss the free one at Sosua Bay, but I just got the ribs for the first time because BO mentioned it. I thought they were pretty good. Could have been more meat on the bone, but will repeat.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1249385]I usually just come here to Rocky's for the breakfast if I miss the free one at Sosua Bay, but I just got the ribs for the first time because BO mentioned it. I thought they were pretty good. Could have been more meat on the bone, but will repeat.[/QUOTE]Terra Linda's ribs are pretty good as well, although a little more expensive.

@Mani: I guess I am guilty as well. I rarely ever leave Sosua without eating ribs a Rocky's at least twice, LOL. And this is coming from a Texan :D.

BTW: I used to hear that there was a guy that owned a rib place on the beach (black owner, I think) but I never got around to checking the place out. Anyone know if his place is still around?

I agree with you those ribs sucked, honestly I thought they might be dog ribs or something. I would never order them. There chicken is ok but nothing great. Breakfast is ok. But honestly I can't even see eating there. There are better choices.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1249349]Just my opinion but the one time I went to Rocky's the food sucked. I went with three other people and we each got something different including the ribs and it was horrible, I thought the ribs were the worst of the four meals and I know a little bit about ribs from once being part owner of a smokehouse / BBQ place.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1249385]I usually just come here to Rocky's for the breakfast if I miss the free one at Sosua Bay, but I just got the ribs for the first time because BO mentioned it. I thought they were pretty good. Could have been more meat on the bone, but will repeat.[/QUOTE]I tried the ribs from El Cultivo, not meaty not good. So Rockys ribs are another forum famous ribs then.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1249394]Terra Linda's ribs are pretty good as well, although a little more expensive.

@Mani: I guess I am guilty as well. I rarely ever leave Sosua without eating ribs a Rocky's at least twice, LOL. And this is coming from a Texan.

BTW: I used to hear that there was a guy that owned a rib place on the beach (black owner, I think) but I never got around to checking the place out. Anyone know if his place is still around?[/QUOTE]Okay SavePro, I'll have to give Rocky's another try based on your and Mr. E's experiences. I'll have to try their breakfast too, many have said they do a good breakfast.

Though you couldn't pay me to stay at Terra Linda I have to give the devil their due,the food in their restaurant is top notch although pricey.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1249318]Man clear out your inbox. Trying to send you a PM. Or get my number from Jao. I tried to do that internet thing online but I couldn't. I went to the Claro office and the guy said I have to go back everyday if I want to do it per day. I arrived here in Sosua last night. And which GPS program are you using? I had to download one the other night when I was lost in Zona Colonial but that shit didn't work. I take it you didn't trade phones with that chica the other night.[/QUOTE]Oopps. I didn't know. I'll PM you and ask Jao too. I had used data from Claro and the built in Google maps on the iPhone. I'll had to play around with the Claro website to get the.

Data at 200MB a day for 64 pesos.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1249394]BTW: I used to hear that there was a guy that owned a rib place on the beach (black owner, I think) but I never got around to checking the place out. Anyone know if his place is still around?[/QUOTE]Big D's. A guy told me about it a couple of times ago but I haven't been able to get a sample yet. Usually when I am on the beach his place his closed. I think it is only open certain days. As Murphy's Law would have it, as soon as I left Rocky's and went to the beach he was out cooking and all the tables were filled. Maybe I will check it out tomorrow before I leave for Puerto Plata.

Anyone see the well known chica Hennessy or her sister lately? I saw her last Sept-Oct in Classico's. But I haven't seen her here the last days.

Both of their numbers don't work either. I want to make passionate love to her again and propose for marriage.

Yeah, that's the best Photoshop I could do on a Macbook Air with no mouse. LOL

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1249344]It was only 11:30 so I called up a girl I met on Dominican Cupid the day before who lives in San Pedro de Macoris. She told me it was only 30 minutes from Boca Chica. I wanted to go check out Juan Dolio, which is on the way, anyway. I finally got to San Pedro and called the girl. Now she tells me she lives in a place called Consuelo. What the fuck? There was a lot of me driving around asking people where was Consuelo. We kept calling back and forth with me asking her why she can't just come meet me where I was since this was not my territory. I ended up telling her that I was just going to leave and never call her again. Then I finally found the little town. I parked in front of the health center and told her where I was. She didn't seem to understand so I gave the phone to a motoconcho guy. She finally came up to meet me, her cousin in tow. I asked her what didn't she understand about "Centro de Salud." We went back to her house and I will be damn if it wasn't on the same street as the health center about 1km away. These Dominicans. I fucked around with her for a few minutes but when she rejected my idea of going to a cabana I made an excuse that I had to take my friend to Puerto Plata.

Dammit.[/QUOTE]Yo bro, for the record was the girl you went to see named Wendy? I had a similar experience with a Dominican Cupid chica. Can I ask you something? Why are we bothering with internet dating sites and traveling to meet women, when we can just stay in Sosua and meet fine ass women who are down for p4p? I rented a car in Sosua, drove all the way to SD with my buddy to meet a chica at the Tropical restaurant on the Malecon. Chica was fine, but she did not plan to stay with me in my hotel. She also didn't set aside plans for my visit it seems. I was supposed to stay 2 nights, I ended up saying fuck it like you and chose to head back to Sosua. Meanwhile chica got free meals and gifts. On top of that, I gave her some dinero so she could travel to Sosua by taxi and bus. She agreed to go, but flaked on me afterwards.

The whole week in Sosua I had a variety of chicas, some very sexy. So I had to ask myself. What did I expect to gain by driving all the way to SD for one woman? 3 day car rental, gas, tolls, meals, drinks, more meals, gifts, dinero for chicas transpo and no pussy = $400 US and 48hrs time wasted.

Do you know what I could have done with that money, and the time lost? And I didn't have any back up plan in SD like you.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1249472]Why are we bothering with internet dating sites and traveling to meet women, when we can just stay in Sosua and meet fine ass women who are down for p4p?[/QUOTE]I have used P4P places if I am new on a scene, for back up, just hanging out with the fellas, or if I'm just bored and don't have anything else to do. It is never my primary raison d'etre. My first couple of times in places like Sosua, Rio, Bangkok I used the P4P more, but after I get used to a place and learn my way around, start learning the language, or start living there then most of my time is dedicated to non-pros. I stick a pro in every now and then for good measure.

Last night in Merengue there were plenty of women around, but I chose to talk up the cashier. I called her today and convinced her to let me come over her house. She said okay but only to talk and yadda yadda yadda. She told me she would meet me on the main highway in 30 minutes. You know how that is. So I went to the beach and ordered a coco loco. As soon as my drink came and before I could take one sip she called asking where I was. I told her that I thought she would CALL in 30 minutes, but she was on-time at the meeting spot. That is really unusual. I told her I was on my way and started guzzling my drink. Before I could take 2 swallows one of my non-pros from Puerto Plata called saying she was at the hotel and where was I. She never likes to give me a time and just pops up expecting me to be there. So I called the cashier back and told her that I couldn't make it because my food just came. I rushed to the hotel and knocked off old girl and she went back to work in Puerto Plata.

Not 30 minutes after she left my Sosua non-pro who had the bar on the beach called saying she was finished getting her hair done and was ready to see me. Fuck. So she came over and got knocked off and I fell off to sleep. She kept waking me up and I was getting pissed. I finally woke up at 11:20 and we went to get food (well I ate; she said it was too late for her to be eating) across from the discos. Her daughter kept calling wondering where she was because she is never out that late; she is a church girl. I took her home and went back to Merengue. I apologized to the cashier and told her I would come tomorrow. She said there are not any second chances. I said yes there are. So I will call her before I leave Sosua and try to make it over there.

I didn't plan on bringing anything back to the hotel because I have to recharge my batteries. Tomorrow I am going to stay for two days with a non-pro in Puerto Plata and she has already told me that we will have to fuck 5 times / day.

Chica: dime papi me va hacer el amor 5 veces. 5 veces por dia.

Mrenternational x_x_x: como tu quieres. 3 veces normal 2 veces por culo

Chica: jajaja todos los negro quieren el culo

Mrenternational x_x_x: te gusta?

Chica: soy una perra en la cama claro.

After that I am off to see my main girl in Santiago. I will fit in one more chica that I already know and try to meet up with 2 new ones. Then it is back to Santo Domingo for my last day. I'm supposed to meet one new chica, see my new main girl there again, and I'm actually supposed to stay over my girl's house who works in immigration. I met her years ago when I was leaving out. Don't know how all that is going to work out. Forgot one chick has been begging me to come stay with her in Bonao. I told her that I would come stay yesterday but was able to use the excuse that it got dark outside and I didn't want to drive at night so I would just come in a couple of days. I might have to shorten some shit up elsewhere.

So you see for me P4P is low on my priority list.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1249472]I rented a car in Sosua, drove all the way to SD with my buddy to meet a chica at the Tropical restaurant on the Malecon. Chica was fine, but she did not plan to stay with me in my hotel. She also didn't set aside plans for my visit it seems. I was supposed to stay 2 nights, I ended up saying fuck it like you and chose to head back to Sosua. Meanwhile chica got free meals and gifts. On top of that, I gave her some dinero so she could travel to Sosua by taxi and bus. She agreed to go, but flaked on me afterwards.

The whole week in Sosua I had a variety of chicas, some very sexy. So I had to ask myself. What did I expect to gain by driving all the way to SD for one woman? 3 day car rental, gas, tolls, meals, drinks, more meals, gifts, dinero for chicas transpo and no pussy = $400 US and 48hrs time wasted.

Do you know what I could have done with that money, and the time lost? And I didn't have any back up plan in SD like you.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. Did you ask her before if she was going to be able to stay with you? Most chicas that I know can not because they live with their families or have to get back home to their kids or something. Hell, my ex-girlfriend in SD had her own place and still had to lie to her dad and I could not stay there. Why? Because he was the one paying all the bills. IMHO there is a stark difference between P4P and non-pro territory here.

The first rule of Cupid is to always have a backup. And the second rule is to always have a backup to the backup. And the third rule is to always know where your P4P can be found. Don't go out of your way. A couple of chicks have told me they want to come see me but they don't have the money. I tell them to borrow it from a friend and I will give it back when they get here. One asked if I could send the money. NOT! I'm not the type to wine and dine a woman. If she is not putting out then I am moving on.

My first year in college a friend taught me a true litmus test. When you first meet a girl saying Hello, and shit, try to kiss them on the lips. If they don't do it back or turn their head then they are not interested in you. If they do then they are really ready to fuck you. That has never failed me. The other day in Santo Domingo a girl who I have only known online for at least a couple of years finally was able to come. I tried it on her and she didn't bite. So I knew the deal. She was still helpful though. The battery was dead on my rental car so she called a taxi to come jump it off. Then I needed to go buy a belt because I forgot mine. She took me around to all these stores looking for one. I finally ended up buying one at La Sirena. She was supposed to be at work at 2 but didn't even separate from me until 2:15 after she led me to Las Americas Hwy. So she can be a good friend but she is not ready to give up the panties.

So my new main SD girl who is in law school and sells real estate was supposed to come over my first day. I met her on Cupid the night before I came. She had told me 6:30 and did not even call. When I called her she said something about a meeting running late. It was cool with me because I was out with Jao. This is the P4P backup I was talking about. The girl promised she would come the next day at 6:30 and would make it up to me. The next day she was early. I was half way back from a buddy's house in Boca Chica when she called saying she was at the hotel. I got there and the first thing I did was hug her and try to kiss her in the mouth. She accepted. To make a long story short by 10pm we were fucking. I'll report on that in the SD thread when I get a chance.

So if you stick to the rules you will be alright. I try to caution guys about dating sites anywhere because many times the women are not dependable. If you don't go to the place often or have a very short stay then I would recommend only doing the P4P scene. This is my longest trip. I am here for 9 days this time. I have time to burn so I can afford to gamble with the Cupid site. And I have a car so I can drive around and meet chicks, learn new stuff, and waste all the time I want.

I hear your points. Casas are like masterbation for me pop and walk. The same is true for the hardcore pros. I use the dating sites but I followup on skype and msn. I get to know them before I hook up. This helps me determine if they are worth my time. The winners are showing me Titas and ass in about a week. This has worked very well for me. The sex is usually better when the chica are comfortable with you. I bring my toys and lubes but I let the ladies know what is up before I meet them. DR chicas seem to be more open to sex. I not trying to fall in love but I enjoy having fun with the girls. Going to discos and casinos with a pretty lady is a blast. Lastly having a backup is always necessary. Your babes period may be on or a million other things can happen. I have a couple of pros who are in my phone who are my amigas. I stay in touch with them and even have drinks with them every now and then. I sort of tease them but if a need a back up they are always ready. Non pros are more complicated but are way more fun.

Having a lady tell you she wants to fuck you all day or fuck her ass really puts a big mile on my face. [

QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1249567]I have used P4P places if I am new on a scene, for back up, just hanging out with the fellas, or if I'm just bored and don't have anything else to do. It is never my primary raison the'etre. My first couple of times in places like Sosua, Rio, Bangkok I used the P4P more, but after I get used to a place and learn my way around, start learning the language, or start living there then most of my time is dedicated to non-pros. I stick a pro in every now and then for good measure.

Last night in Merengue there were plenty of women around, but I chose to talk up the cashier. I called her today and convinced her to let me come over her house. She said okay but only to talk and yadda yadda yadda. She told me she would meet me on the main highway in 30 minutes. You know how that is. So I went to the beach and ordered a coco loco. As soon as my drink came and before I could take one sip she called asking where I was. I told her that I thought she would CALL in 30 minutes, but she was on-time at the meeting spot. That is really unusual. I told her I was on my way and started guzzling my drink. Before I could take 2 swallows one of my non-pros from Puerto Plata called saying she was at the hotel and where was I. She never likes to give me a time and just pops up expecting me to be there. So I called the cashier back and told her that I couldn't make it because my food just came. I rushed to the hotel and knocked off old girl and she went back to work in Puerto Plata.

Not 30 minutes after she left my Sosua non-pro who had the bar on the beach called saying she was finished getting her hair done and was ready to see me. Fuck. So she came over and got knocked off and I fell off to sleep. She kept waking me up and I was getting pissed. I finally woke up at 11:20 and we went to get food (well I ate; she said it was too late for her to be eating) across from the discos. Her daughter kept calling wondering where she was because she is never out that late; she is a church girl. I took her home and went back to Merengue. I apologized to the cashier and told her I would come tomorrow. She said there are not any second chances. I said yes there are. So I will call her before I leave Sosua and try to make it over there.

I didn't plan on bringing anything back to the hotel because I have to recharge my batteries. Tomorrow I am going to stay for two days with a non-pro in Puerto Plata and she has already told me that we will have to fuck 5 times / day.

Chica: dime papi me va hacer el amor 5 veces. 5 veces por dia.

Mrenternational x_x_x: como tu quieres. 3 veces normal 2 veces por culo

Chica: jajaja todos los negro quieren el culo

Mrenternational x_x_x: te gusta?

Chica: soy una perra en la cama claro.

After that I am off to see my main girl in Santiago. I will fit in one more chica that I already know and try to meet up with 2 new ones. Then it is back to Santo Domingo for my last day. I'm supposed to meet one new chica, see my new main girl there again, and I'm actually supposed to stay over my girl's house who works in immigration. I met her years ago when I was leaving out. Don't know how all that is going to work out. Forgot one chick has been begging me to come stay with her in Bonao. I told her that I would come stay yesterday but was able to use the excuse that it got dark outside and I didn't want to drive at night so I would just come in a couple of days. I might have to shorten some shit up elsewhere.

So you see for me P4P is low on my priority list.

Hmmm. Did you ask her before if she was going to be able to stay with you? Most chicas that I know can not because they live with their families or have to get back home to their kids or something. Hell, my ex-girlfriend in SD had her own place and still had to lie to her dad and I could not stay there. Why? Because he was the one paying all the bills. IMHO there is a stark difference between P4P and non-pro territory here.

The first rule of Cupid is to always have a backup. And the second rule is to always have a backup to the backup. And the third rule is to always know where your P4P can be found. Don't go out of your way. A couple of chicks have told me they want to come see me but they don't have the money. I tell them to borrow it from a friend and I will give it back when they get here. One asked if I could send the money. NOT! I'm not the type to wine and dine a woman. If she is not putting out then I am moving on.

My first year in college a friend taught me a true litmus test. When you first meet a girl saying Hello, and shit, try to kiss them on the lips. If they don't do it back or turn their head then they are not interested in you. If they do then they are really ready to fuck you. That has never failed me. The other day in Santo Domingo a girl who I have only known online for at least a couple of years finally was able to come. I tried it on her and she didn't bite. So I knew the deal. She was still helpful though. The battery was dead on my rental car so she called a taxi to come jump it off. Then I needed to go buy a belt because I forgot mine. She took me around to all these stores looking for one. I finally ended up buying one at La Sirena. She was supposed to be at work at 2 but didn't even separate from me until 2:15 after she led me to Las Americas Hwy. So she can be a good friend but she is not ready to give up the panties.

So my new main SD girl who is in law school and sells real estate was supposed to come over my first day. I met her on Cupid the night before I came. She had told me 6:30 and did not even call. When I called her she said something about a meeting running late. It was cool with me because I was out with Jao. This is the P4P backup I was talking about. The girl promised she would come the next day at 6:30 and would make it up to me. The next day she was early. I was half way back from a buddy's house in Boca Chica when she called saying she was at the hotel. I got there and the first thing I did was hug her and try to kiss her in the mouth. She accepted. To make a long story short by 10pm we were fucking. I'll report on that in the SD thread when I get a chance.

So if you stick to the rules you will be alright. I try to caution guys about dating sites anywhere because many times the women are not dependable. If you don't go to the place often or have a very short stay then I would recommend only doing the P4P scene. This is my longest trip. I am here for 9 days this time. I have time to burn so I can afford to gamble with the Cupid site. And I have a car so I can drive around and meet chicks, learn new stuff, and waste all the time I want.[/QUOTE]

Any body use a product called black ant, If so does it work.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1249472]. So I had to ask myself. What did I expect to gain by driving all the way to SD for one woman? 3 day car rental, gas, tolls, meals, drinks, more meals, gifts, dinero for chicas transpo and no pussy = $400 US and 48hrs time wasted.

Do you know what I could have done with that money, and the time lost? And I didn't have any back up plan in SD like you.[/QUOTE]If you meet a Badoo or Dominican Stupid chica (sorry its Cupid) and you want sex with her it its important to agree to have sex before you make your trip. The girl you met will surely have sex with you after 2 or 3 dates, but we all want it on the first date, we do not have time to waste. I met a Badoo chica from Puerto Plata, we agreed on sex a week before my trip to Sosua and we had sex two consecutive nights.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1249660]Any body use a product called black ant, If so does it work.[/QUOTE]I mentioned Black Ant on IFTC. It helped me immensely. I know it works because in the beginning of my trip to BB & Sosua I wasnt really turned on or felt ready. But after my 1st capsule which was with a regular, I was amazed on how it brought me back to life. Of course I had to try it on random chicas I met in Sosua, and it worked with them too.

Since it did work, I researched and I found a website online from China, and ordered 12 boxes for $3. 50 a box = $42. 00 plus $10 shipping making it $52 Once I get my order, and everything is okay, I will give info on the site.

You get 4 capsules in a box. The place I found in Sosua was making a major profit off of me. He charged me $25 a box, $6. 25 for one capsule. I had a feeling I could get it cheaper but didn't know who else had it, at least in Sosua. Some friends know some places in the town in USA that I live for like $10 a box. So it's been available to me, just didn't know about it.

[url]http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/SafetyAlertsforHumanMedicalProducts/ucm247434.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=Charlie Horse;1249735][url]http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/SafetyAlertsforHumanMedicalProducts/ucm247434.htm[/url][/QUOTE]The report states that it contains (what appears to be) 75 mgs of sildenafil, the active ingredient in Viagra. The beef they have with it is that since it does not correctly identify the ingredients, a person might take it without having the information about contraindications and interactions with other drugs, effects on blood pressure, etc. The best deal I know of is Latino supermarket in Sosua where you can get 4 tablets of 100mgs of generic sildenafil for 100 pesos, which is about US$0. 60 cents per pill. Generic sildenafil is available in all pharmacies in the DR and in many convenience stores. So Black Ant is a ripoff.

Been to Sosua many times, never buy any black ant, especially for the price I heard. Its rediculous. Anyway where is Latino supermarket? Never heard of it. Please give me a landmark, I usually by 50 mg of sildenafil for 100 peso but only get 2 tablets which still isn't bad but would like to know where to get the deal your talking about.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1249738]The report states that it contains (what appears to be) 75 mgs of sildenafil, the active ingredient in Viagra. The beef they have with it is that since it does not correctly identify the ingredients, a person might take it without having the information about contraindications and interactions with other drugs, effects on blood pressure, etc. The best deal I know of is Latino supermarket in Sosua where you can get 4 tablets of 100mgs of generic sildenafil for 100 pesos, which is about US$0. 60 cents per pill. Generic sildenafil is available in all pharmacies in the DR and in many convenience stores. So Black Ant is a ripoff.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You Can; 1249782]Been to Sosua many times, never buy any black ant, especially for the price I heard. Its rediculous. Anyway where is Latino supermarket? Never heard of it. Please give me a landmark, I usually by 50 mg of sildenafil for 100 peso but only get 2 tablets which still isn't bad but would like to know where to get the deal your talking about.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Latino Supermarket is on Alejandro Martinez and it is owned by an English guy and his Dominican wife. Here are some directions:

1. Coming from Classico disco walk towards the beach about 2 hundred yards and turn right. You will pass Bailey's restaurant on your left. Keep going straight and you will pass Casa Marina on your left. Keep going past Bologna restaurant on your left. Now go another 50 meters and it is on your right. 10 minutes walk from Classico disco.

2. Coming from Hotel Europa proceed along Pedro Clissante towards the beach. At Super Super liquor store turn right onto Calle Ayuntamiento. Walk down this street. You will pass the town hall on your right and a good restaurant called Mofongos. Keep going right to the end of the street then turn right in front of Bologna restaurant onto Alejandro Martinez and walk another 50 meters and it is on your right. 10 minutes walk from Hotel Europa.

3. Mount motoconcho and tell him to take you to Latinos Supermarket on Alejandro Martinez.

You can also buy a box of 96 pills for 1500 pesos, which would be just over 15 pesos per pill. Better than Black Ant.

If you want a cheap place to drink beer there are chairs outside and you can buy cold beer at supermarket price and sit and drink it outside. Personally I don't drink, but a lot of local residents go there in the early evening for a beer.

[QUOTE=Charlie Horse;1249735][url]http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/SafetyAlertsforHumanMedicalProducts/ucm247434.htm[/url][/QUOTE]My uneducated guess is, the makers of Viagra or any other product of it's kind don't want anyone or anything cutting in on it's profits. So they encourage the FDA to protect their interests. Even if it means using scare tactics or reinforcing doubt that they should use a product.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1249738]The report states that it contains (what appears to be) 75 mgs of sildenafil, the active ingredient in Viagra. The beef they have with it is that since it does not correctly identify the ingredients, a person might take it without having the information about contraindications and interactions with other drugs, effects on blood pressure, etc. The best deal I know of is Latino supermarket in Sosua where you can get 4 tablets of 100mgs of generic sildenafil for 100 pesos, which is about US$0. 60 cents per pill. Generic sildenafil is available in all pharmacies in the DR and in many convenience stores. So Black Ant is a ripoff.[/QUOTE]Black Ant Male Enhancement.

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Is Sildenafil really the active ingredient in Black Ant? If that is also in Viagra, and approved by the FDA, whats the real problem the FDA has? That safety alert recommended throwing away Black Ant IMO without just reasoning. That alert seems awfully suspicious to me. What about the other ingredients purported to be in the Black Ant formula, and it's supposed benefits? Should we dismiss those too? Sure we could buy Sildenafil alone, but at least with the Black Ant formula there appears to be other ingredients there in each capsule.

A couple of questions about Sosua:

Most of the girls I met lives at Los Charamicos so I infer it is a barrio like area. Is it a area worth visiting? Some old posts say do not go there at night, that it is a dangerous area, what is the actual situation there?

I was looking at the map and noticed I do not walked half of El Batey, thats why I never saw Passions for example. Besides La Pasion and hotels, is there anything worth to see east of Dr. Rosen st?

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline; 1249838]A couple of questions about Sosua:

Most of the girls I met lives at Los Charamicos so I infer it is a barrio like area. Is it a area worth visiting? Some old posts say do not go there at night, that it is a dangerous area, what is the actual situation there?

I was looking at the map and noticed I do not walked half of El Batey, thats why I never saw Passions for example. Besides La Pasion and hotels, is there anything worth to see east of Dr. Rosen st?[/QUOTE]Charamicos is the place you get to if you walk the whole length of Sosua Beach and off the other end of the beach. It is more of a town than a barrio. I have wandered around Charamicos in the day time and found people perfectly friendly and no different from, say, in La Union or Montellano. There are a lot of small businesses there, but no tourist restaurants. Actually it is quite picturesque in parts with narrow lanes and quaint cottages and flowers in the yards, bougainvillea growing up the walls, etc. There is a place where you can rent rooms right next to the beach. I think the landlady is German.

What happens there at night I do not know. I believe the inhabitants all turn into vampires. I suppose any place is potentially dangerous at night, and the reach of the Tourist Police does not extend to Charamicos, but I have not heard of anything happening to anyone who went there.

The east end of Sosua is quite picturesque with some high class beach homes, quiet lanes, green fields etc. If you go up past the Playa Chiquita Casino. At Voramar Hotel there is the tennis club with 4 courts. Coming closer to town are some of the outlying hotels that you don't see discussed much on this board, and some smaller bars and restaurants, some of them German, and a couple of laundries. If you are leaving the center and go past Dr. Rosen there are several banks including ScotiaBank, which has a good ATM where you can get 10, 000 pesos, Super Super liquor store, a colmado that is open very late at night, maybe all night, a couple of Dominican and / or creole restaurants, an Emergency Clinic, a couple of restaurants like La Planchera and the New Cafe where you can get excellent breakfasts and good dinners too. In Calle Ayuntamiento is the 24 hour restaurant. Next to the New Cafe is the CMP Nightclub and brothel, and then you go a bit further to La Passion. Otherwise there is not much to see unless you are into chickens, goats, dogs.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline; 1249838]A couple of questions about Sosua:

Most of the girls I met lives at Los Charamicos so I infer it is a barrio like area. Is it a area worth visiting? Some old posts say do not go there at night, that it is a dangerous area, what is the actual situation there?

I was looking at the map and noticed I do not walked half of El Batey, thats why I never saw Passions for example. Besides La Pasion and hotels, is there anything worth to see east of Dr. Rosen st?[/QUOTE]Do not go to Charmicos at night. That's where I had my incident at the barrito place with los Dominicanos. It's a heavy seedy drug area. I have played Dominos there during the day with no problem but night time is not safe. La Union and Mantellano has gringos that actually live there with girls, and we are more excepted. If you ever catch Carib tours to Sosua, the station is in Charmicos.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1249844]Charamicos is the place you get to if you walk the whole length of Sosua Beach and off the other end of the beach. It is more of a town than a barrio. I have wandered around Charamicos in the day time and found people perfectly friendly and no different from, say, in La Union or Montellano. There are a lot of small businesses there, but no tourist restaurants. Actually it is quite picturesque in parts with narrow lanes and quaint cottages and flowers in the yards, bougainvillea growing up the walls, etc. There is a place where you can rent rooms right next to the beach. I think the landlady is German.

What happens there at night I do not know. I believe the inhabitants all turn into vampires. I suppose any place is potentially dangerous at night, and the reach of the Tourist Police does not extend to Charamicos, but I have not heard of anything happening to anyone who went there.

The east end of Sosua is quite picturesque with some high class beach homes, quiet lanes, green fields etc. If you go up past the Playa Chiquita Casino. At Voramar Hotel there is the tennis club with 4 courts. Coming closer to town are some of the outlying hotels that you don't see discussed much on this board, and some smaller bars and restaurants, some of them German, and a couple of laundries. If you are leaving the center and go past Dr. Rosen there are several banks including ScotiaBank, which has a good ATM where you can get 10, 000 pesos, Super Super liquor store, a colmado that is open very late at night, maybe all night, a couple of Dominican and / or creole restaurants, an Emergency Clinic, a couple of restaurants like La Planchera and the New Cafe where you can get excellent breakfasts and good dinners too. In Calle Ayuntamiento is the 24 hour restaurant. Next to the New Cafe is the CMP Nightclub and brothel, and then you go a bit further to La Passion. Otherwise there is not much to see unless you are into chickens, goats, dogs.[/QUOTE]Couple of good posts Frannie, detailed and accurate information.

4x 100mg sildenafil at 100 pesos (and 96 at 1500 pesos) sounds too cheap to believe! Even sugar pills made in China / India and imported all the way accross the ocean should cost more than that. Unless they are made locally. , . , . ! LOL

Thanks my man, your directions seem a little strange but I know where Baileys is and Casa Marina. If I left Classico Disco as a landmark, I would make a left out of Classico, walk pass Flow, make a left at corner, walk pass new garden and make a right at the corner and I would pass Casa Marina on my left and a basefall field on my right and continue on and place is on my left. Also on the right is a doctor clinic I went to once when I was bit by a centepeade that fucked my whole trip up and turned my calf black. I would never pass baileys but now I follow you, you are making a right out of Classico. Thank you very much, I am going to check this out. I will say you know your way around Sosua no dought. Thanks Again for your help.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1249794]Latino Supermarket is on Alejandro Martinez and it is owned by an English guy and his Dominican wife. Here are some directions:

1. Coming from Classico disco walk towards the beach about 2 hundred yards and turn right. You will pass Bailey's restaurant on your left. Keep going straight and you will pass Casa Marina on your left. Keep going past Bologna restaurant on your left. Now go another 50 meters and it is on your right. 10 minutes walk from Classico disco.

2. Coming from Hotel Europa proceed along Pedro Clissante towards the beach. At Super Super liquor store turn right onto Calle Ayuntamiento. Walk down this street. You will pass the town hall on your right and a good restaurant called Mofongos. Keep going right to the end of the street then turn right in front of Bologna restaurant onto Alejandro Martinez and walk another 50 meters and it is on your right. 10 minutes walk from Hotel Europa.

3. Mount motoconcho and tell him to take you to Latinos Supermarket on Alejandro Martinez.

You can also buy a box of 96 pills for 1500 pesos, which would be just over 15 pesos per pill. Better than Black Ant.

If you want a cheap place to drink beer there are chairs outside and you can buy cold beer at supermarket price and sit and drink it outside. Personally I don't drink, but a lot of local residents go there in the early evening for a beer.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You Can;1250108]Thanks my man, your directions seem a little strange but I know where Baileys is and Casa Marina. If I left Classico Disco as a landmark, I would make a left out of Classico, walk pass Flow, make a left at corner, walk pass new garden and make a right at the corner and I would pass Casa Marina on my left and a basefall field on my right and continue on and place is on my left. Also on the right is a doctor clinic I went to once when I was bit by a centepeade that fucked my whole trip up and turned my calf black. I would never pass baileys but now I follow you, you are making a right out of Classico. Thank you very much, I am going to check this out. I will say you know your way around Sosua no dought. Thanks Again for your help.[/QUOTE]Look on the map. [url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=202115846141467908565.0004afc37912917c547ae&msa=0[/url]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1246038]You need a novia. That will save you big on pussy and posible cook and shop for you. Posible take bus trips to other places to sport fuck. Most towns have cabanas. 1500 is a start but buying the sex is the wild card. I think you can build relation ships with different chicas.[/QUOTE]Very well put. I have relationships all over the north coast and these are not working girls (I will rather call then friends with benefits). Anytime I am in the country they take good care of me I buy little things for them and gifts for the kids when I am there. After a while going after pros gets old and you will then start looking for connection. Only problem is that I am connected to more than one. I don't promise any exclusivity and they know it. But you will be amazed at what a little Spanish, a little kindness, a sense of humor and decency will do for you with the ladies out here in the DR.

[QUOTE=Uzinuzin;1250077]4x 100mg sildenafil at 100 pesos (and 96 at 1500 pesos) sounds too cheap to believe! Even sugar pills made in China / India and imported all the way accross the ocean should cost more than that. Unless they are made locally. , . , . ! LOL[/QUOTE]Actually it is 975 pesos for a box of 96, so I was wrong. I love it when people call me a liar and I can prove them wrong. I posted a photograph of the advertisement on this board only a few weeks ago and you can see it here: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1516-Photo-Gallery/page4[/url]

The reason I posted this was because to the best of my knowledge this Indian generic viagra is the best deal in Sosua and I thought it would be of interest to readers of this board.

[QUOTE=You Can;1250108]Thanks my man, your directions seem a little strange but I know where Baileys is and Casa Marina. If I left Classico Disco as a landmark, I would make a left out of Classico, walk pass Flow, make a left at corner, walk pass new garden and make a right at the corner and I would pass Casa Marina on my left and a basefall field on my right and continue on and place is on my left. Also on the right is a doctor clinic I went to once when I was bit by a centepeade that fucked my whole trip up and turned my calf black. I would never pass baileys but now I follow you, you are making a right out of Classico. Thank you very much, I am going to check this out. I will say you know your way around Sosua no dought. Thanks Again for your help.[/QUOTE]Yes, you could go either way, but I included Bailey's because a lot of people already know where it is.Your preferred route might save 50 yards.

I should not have used the word strange, just a little longer route, but it doesn't matter I really appreciate it. I just got confused for a second! I can tell you know Sosua and thats whats important, not only that but you share your knowledge which is great. I try to give back as much as possible. Thats what makes these boards so nice. I go to Cartagena Colombia many times per year so know it pretty well. I use to go to Sosua more often years ago and am heading there this Sunday, so I will check out some of the stuff you mentioned. Thanks Again.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1250127]Yes, you could go either way, but I included Bailey's because a lot of people already know where it is[/QUOTE]

Its just a neighborhood. There is really no reason to go there unless you are visiting someone.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline; 1249838]A couple of questions about Sosua:

Most of the girls I met lives at Los Charamicos so I infer it is a barrio like area. Is it a area worth visiting? Some old posts say do not go there at night, that it is a dangerous area, what is the actual situation there?

I was looking at the map and noticed I do not walked half of El Batey, thats why I never saw Passions for example. Besides La Pasion and hotels, is there anything worth to see east of Dr. Rosen st?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1250213]Its just a neighborhood. There is really no reason to go there unless you are visiting someone.[/QUOTE]I disagree, you can fish out some of the regular working girls, local girls, have a beer with the locals, a good plate of food for 120-150pesos. I've been introduced to many of my motoconcho friends nieces, cousins etc etc, very cute regular girls who where all smiles when I asked them if they would like to go out dancing. Most of the times I would get lucky and can call them to go out anytime I'm in town.

The putas you see walking around would love to come home with you the go back to their room with no AC and sleep 4 to a room. I recommend a scooter or moto though. Its relatively safe. Charamicos, Sosua Abajo and Maranata!

[QUOTE=D Life;1250124]Very well put. I have relationships all over the north coast and these are not working girls (I will rather call then friends with benefits). Anytime I am in the country they take good care of me I buy little things for them and gifts for the kids when I am there. After a while going after pros gets old and you will then start looking for connection. Only problem is that I am connected to more than one. I don't promise any exclusivity and they know it. But you will be amazed at what a little Spanish, a little kindness, a sense of humor and decency will do for you with the ladies out here in the DR.[/QUOTE]The human connection! You essentially summarized in your last sentence, what some of us are looking for (compared to keeping scores) going to the D. R.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1250283]I disagree, you can fish out some of the regular working girls, local girls, have a beer with the locals, a good plate of food for 120-150pesos. I've been introduced to many of my motoconcho friends nieces, cousins etc etc, very cute regular girls who where all smiles when I asked them if they would like to go out dancing. Most of the times I would get lucky and can call them to go out anytime I'm in town.[/QUOTE]Frannie's details (not to mention his wry humor with vampires) and your endorsement makes me feel that the exploration is definitely worth the while, if nothing else, because it might be far from the madding crowd, all the while sitting in Sosua.

Frannie had a bike and he would go exploring the town and my first ever trip to Sosua (and to the D. R) , I was too green to try this but "youcan"'s report might be interesting to read if he actually ventures out.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1250309]Frannie's details (not to mention his wry humor with vampires) and your endorsement makes me feel that the exploration is definitely worth the while, if nothing else, because it might be far from the madding crowd, all the while sitting in Sosua.

Frannie had a bike and he would go exploring the town and my first ever trip to Sosua (and to the D. R) , I was too green to try this but "youcan"'s report might be interesting to read if he actually ventures out.[/QUOTE]Just follow the basic rules, I developed a comfort zone and had to be reminded.

1) At night go with a respected Dominican that lives there.

2) The later it gets increases danger.

3) If driving, do quick girl pickups and dropoffs.

4) don't wear jewelry, or carry a bulky wallet.

5) Remember they don't like Americans unless you are spending money.

MHL speaks Spanish and doesn't look gringo, so he gets a pass that most people won't. Go Heat! LOL.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1250320]Just follow the basic rules, I developed a comfort zone and had to be reminded.......
MHL speaks Spanish and doesn't look gringo, so he gets a pass that most people won't. Go Heat! LOL.[/QUOTE]Makes complete sense! However, I was thinking of a daytime jaunt rather than a night time (wo)manhunt. :-)

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1250126]Actually it is 975 pesos for a box of 96, so I was wrong. I love it when people call me a liar and I can prove them wrong. I posted a photograph of the advertisement on this board only a few weeks ago and you can see it here:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1516-Photo-Gallery/page4[/url]

The reason I posted this was because to the best of my knowledge this Indian generic viagra is the best deal in Sosua and I thought it would be of interest to readers of this board.[/QUOTE]You get offers for any old rubbish in that town, it doesn't mean it's the real thing and it works. I think you got a few replies on that thread too when you put up the ad and mention the prices. 100mg pills at 10 pesos each are probably sugar pills maybe with a few real ones thrown in as goodwill . Though if it works for you, that is great, enjoy it!

(BTW, I appreciate you are just reporting this, you are not the one selling them. I'm just pointing out, like everything else, if it's too good to be true, watch out.)

[quote=uzinuzin; 1250439]you get offers for any old rubbish in that town, it doesn't mean it's the real thing and it works. i think you got a few replies on that thread too when you put up the ad and mention the prices. 100mg pills at 10 pesos each are probably sugar pills maybe with a few real ones thrown in as goodwill. though if it works for you, that is great, enjoy it!

(btw, i appreciate you are just reporting this, you are not the one selling them. i'm just pointing out, like everything else, if it's too good to be true, watch out.) [/quote]yawn! they are generic sildenafil made in the dr by ibero farmacos, sa, who import, produce, manufacture and market a wide range of generic drugs available in pharmacies in the dr, such as blood pressure drugs, diabetic drugs, erectile dysfunction drugs, antibiotics, anti-inflammatory drugs, birth control pills. if you want you can get their mailing address, fax number, or e-mail address from the link provided and contact them to let them know that you an highly placed executive with a major international pharmacy company and you are in on the secret that they are running a criminal enterprise and that all their pills are sugar, as your studies have shown that it would be economically impossible to produce real medication for the prices they charge. i am sure they will be highly amused.

anyway if sugar pills work just as good as generic sildenafil, then i am all for sugar pills. why spend your money on viagra if sugar works just as well?

[url]http://iberofarmacos.com.do/index.php?option=com_k2&view=itemlist&layout=category&task=category&id=1&itemid=16[/url]

now give some examples of fraudulent offers for products that you have detected in sosua as mentioned in your first sentence. that should not be too hard and it will help all of us to avoid being cheated in the future and we will be able to benefit from your expertise in this matter.

just out of interest, for those who read spanish, this is what the company claims about what they are selling:


sildenafil 100 mg

via de adiministración: oral
cada tableta contiene: citrato de sildenafil 100 mg
excipiente c.s.p. 1 tableta


indicaciones: tratamiento de la disfunsión erectil.
posologia: adultos (rango 25-100 mg, según tolerancia y eficacia). ancianos, insuficiencia renal grave, insuficiencia hepática leve o moderada: dosis inicial 25 mg, que pueden incrementarse a 50-100 mg, según eficacia y tolerancia. normas para la correcta administración: tomar de 15 minutos a 1 hora antes de la relación sexual. los alimentos retrasan el comienzo de la acción.


contraindicaciones: asociación con nitratos (hay potenciación de efectos hipotensores), hombres en los que la actividad sexual esté desaconsejada (ej: cardiopatías graves). no se ha estudiado la seguridad de sildenafil en los siguientes pacientes, estando, por tanto, su uso, desaconsejado: insuficiencia hepática grave, hipotensión (<90/50 mmhg), historia reciente de accidente isquémico cerebral o infarto de miocardio, alteraciones retinianas de origen hereditario, como retinitis pigmentaria (una minoría de estos pacientes tienen alteración de las fosfodiesterasas de la retina).


precauciones: hipotensión: sildenafil produce disminución de la presión arterial (según algunos estudios relacionada con la dosis). la hipotensión puede ser especialmente peligrosa cuando se asocia a nitratos. deformidades anatómicas del pene (enfermedad de peyronie, fibrosis cavernaria) o predisposición al priapismo (ej: anemia falciforme, mieloma múltiple o leucemia). estos pacientes deberán consultar al urólogo la idoneidad del tratamiento. trastornos hemorrágicos o úlcera péptica activa: se desconoce el efecto de sildenafil en estos pacientes. se ha observado in vitro que sildenafil aumenta los efectos antiagregantes plaquetarios del nitroprusiato sódico. situaciones especiales: advertir al paciente que sildenafil puede producir mareos y trastornos visuales.

principio activo: sildenafil 100 mg
acción terapéutica: tratamiento de la disfunsión erectil

well put my man!

[quote=frannie; 1250462]yawn! they are generic sildenafil made in the dr by ibero farmacos, sa, who import, produce, manufacture and market a wide range of generic drugs available in pharmacies in the dr, such as blood pressure drugs, diabetic drugs, erectile dysfunction drugs, antibiotics, anti-inflammatory drugs, birth control pills. if you want you can get their mailing address, fax number, or e-mail address from the link provided and contact them to let them know that you an highly placed executive with a major international pharmacy company and you are in on the secret that they are running a criminal enterprise and that all their pills are sugar, as your studies have shown that it would be economically impossible to produce real medication for the prices they charge. i am sure they will be highly amused.

anyway if sugar pills work just as good as generic sildenafil, then i am all for sugar pills. why spend your money on viagra if sugar works just as well?

[url]http://iberofarmacos.com.do/index.php?option=com_k2&view=itemlist&layout=category&task=category&id=1&itemid=16[/url]

now give some examples of fraudulent offers for products that you have detected in sosua as mentioned in your first sentence. that should not be too hard and it will help all of us to avoid being cheated in the future and we will be able to benefit from your expertise in this matter.

just out of interest, for those who read spanish, this is what the company claims about what they are selling:

sildenafil 100 mg.

via de adiministracióand: oral.

cada tableta contiene: citrato de sildenafil 100 mg.

excipiente c. s. p. 1 tableta.

indicaciones: tratamiento de la disfunsióand erectil.

posologia: adultos (rango 25-100 mg, segúand tolerancia why eficacia). ancianos, insuficiencia renal grave, insuficiencia hepática leve o moderada: dosis inicial 25 mg, que pueden incrementarse a 50-100 mg, segúand eficacia why tolerancia. normas para la correcta administracióand: tomar de 15 minutos a 1 hora antes de la relacióand sexual. los alimentos retrasan el comienzo de la accióand.

contraindicaciones: asociacióand con nitratos (hay potenciacióand de efectos hipotensores) , hombres en los que la actividad sexual esté desaconsejada (ej: cardiopatías graves). no se ha estudiado la seguridad de sildenafil en los siguientes pacientes, estando, por tanto, su uso, desaconsejado: insuficiencia hepática grave, hipotensióand (<90/50 mmhg) , historia reciente de accidente isquémico cerebral o infarto de miocardio, alteraciones retinianas de origen hereditario, como retinitis pigmentaria (una minoría de estos pacientes tienen alteracióand de las fosfodiesterasas de la retina).

precauciones: hipotensióand: sildenafil produce disminucióand de la presióand arterial (segúand algunos estudios relacionada con la dosis). la hipotensióand puede ser especialmente peligrosa cuando se asocia a nitratos. deformidades anatómicas del pene (enfermedad de peyronie, fibrosis cavernaria) o predisposicióand al priapismo (ej: anemia falciforme, mieloma múltiple o leucemia). estos pacientes deberáand consultar al yourólogo la idoneidad del tratamiento. trastornos hemorrágicos o úlcera péptica activa: se desconoce el efecto de sildenafil en estos pacientes. se ha observado in vitro que sildenafil aumenta los efectos antiagregantes plaquetarios del nitroprusiato sódico. situaciones especiales: advertir al paciente que sildenafil puede producir mareos why trastornos visuales.

principio activo: sildenafil 100 mg.

accióand terapéutica: tratamiento de la disfunsióand erectil[/quote]

Just like to say thank you to everybody who answered my question from last week. This is a fantastic site with plenty of people using it, unlike the forum that I used before with 1 report a month, I will be paying my subscription now and look forward to speaking to you all.

Thanks

Frannie; what a detailed, informative, long post, I'm totally convinced! You sure work hard for something you have no interest or connection to what-so-ever, just for the sake of providing information to board members! I suggest you do some work for all those online pills offerings and make some money in the process. You are great.

I was wondering why Jaosousa was giving you so much stick in the other thread, but I see you have a strange biased attitude towards certain things. In comparison to an impartial poster.

I'm sure, hope, people will make up their own minds and decide if they should buy 10 pesos viagra pills from corner shops. Let's leave it at that.

[QUOTE=Uzinuzin;1250872]Frannie; what a detailed, informative, long post, I'm totally convinced![/QUOTE]Phew! It took a lot of work. Now that you are fixed up with some viagra, you will be needing a chica. Try not to overpay.

I just spent a few days in Sosua. I did alot of drinking. I guess I was taking too long for some chicas. Two of them offered me barebacks if I promised to pull out. I know this is not smart but is it common?

Well it depends, maybe your the only guy that they like SO much that they offer it to you.

Just don't forget to get the checkup when your home. Cause usually us guys don't notice shit, but your regular girl might have some itches a few weeks later.

[QUOTE=Bumwajob;1251161]I just spent a few days in Sosua. I did alot of drinking. I guess I was taking too long for some chicas. Two of them offered me barebacks if I promised to pull out. I know this is not smart but is it common?[/QUOTE]

Yea its common, most of them are fucking without condoms down there. Last year almost everone wanted to fuck with out one. If you tell them know they jump on. Simple as that.

[QUOTE=Bumwajob;1251161]I just spent a few days in Sosua. I did alot of drinking. I guess I was taking too long for some chicas. Two of them offered me barebacks if I promised to pull out. I know this is not smart but is it common?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You Can;1251260]Yea its common, most of them are fucking without condoms down there. Last year almost everone wanted to fuck with out one. [b]If you tell them know they jump on. Simple as that.[/b][/QUOTE]You Can, I am sure you are a great guy in person, but you are the same guy that was bragging about driving "drunk as a motherfucker" in the Puerto Plata forum when you are in the DR (in the form of giving advice to another monger in that forum). Then I see you post this as advice to Bumwajob.

What is the correlation between guys wanting to do reckless shit when away from home?

Don't want to turn this into a "safe sex" discussion, but if you see reckless individuals encouraging reckless behavior, then it should tell you something. But I understand everyone has their own definition of what reckless behavior is, so I digress...

Just keep in mind, unlike places like Blackbeard's or La Passion, Sosua chicas are [b]NOT[/b] required to get tested every month.

[quote=savepros321; 1251272]you can, i am sure you are a great guy in person, but you are the same guy that was bragging about driving "drunk as a motherfucker" in the puerto plata forum when you are in the dr (in the form of giving advice to another monger in that forum). then i see you post this as advice to bumwajob.

what is the correlation between guys wanting to do reckless shit when away from home?

don't want to turn this into a "safe sex" discussion, but if you see reckless individuals encouraging reckless behavior, then it should tell you something. but i understand everyone has their own definition of what reckless behavior is, so i digress.

just keep in mind, unlike places like blackbeard's or la passion, sosua chicas are [b]not[/b] required to get tested every month.[/quote]you live and you learn. during my younger days i thought i was a great drunk driver too. i could easily make those aggressive moves and cuts on the highways, drive without inhibition. i was clearly agitated when i got my first dui. felt i was wronged, the cop just stopped me for speeding a little over, not that i was reckless or anything worse. after dealing with the consequences of that dui and driving almost always sober for many years i can clearly tell the difference now even if i drive after having just one or two drinks which is the max when i am out. i personally feel there is no excuse for someone to get a second or multiple duis.

that apart, getting back to the point, condom or not is entirely a personal choice between consenting adults. and there ends the discussion. and i guess that is the isg policy too. i have made some comments in earlier posts on these lines but never ridiculed anyone.

it is good to educate people about what is out there, and testing practices like you just did, savepros. i would nominate you for "role model among mongers" award. lol.

[quote=kman1;1251334]you live and you learn. during my younger days i thought i was a great drunk driver too. i could easily make those aggressive moves and cuts on the highways, drive without inhibition. i was clearly agitated when i got my first dui. felt i was wronged, the cop just stopped me for speeding a little over, not that i was reckless or anything worse. after dealing with the consequences of that dui and driving almost always sober for many years i can clearly tell the difference now even if i drive after having just one or two drinks which is the max when i am out. i personally feel there is no excuse for someone to get a second or multiple duis.[/quote]you should look for the story deepmpactt posted in response to this in the puerto plata forum. you guys make it sound like driving drunk is no big deal, but deep's friend was killed by a drunk driver.

it only sounds like you stopped drinking and driving because you got a dui. this is why i said everyone has their own definition of what reckless behavior is (obviously at the time you did not view what you were doing as reckless). just be thankful that you stopped before you killed someone. maybe that dui was your intervention.

but you are right; whether one decides to wear a jimmy cap or not is between two consenting adults. i was only commenting on the idea of reckless individuals giving reckless advice. it's sort of like the blind leading the blind.

but as devin the dude said: "...no one will suffer but you; so do what the fuck you wanna do..."

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1251354]You should look for the story DeepMpactt posted in response to this in the Puerto Plata forum. You guys make it sound like driving drunk is no big deal, but Deep's friend was killed by a drunk driver.

It only sounds like you stopped drinking and driving because you got a DUI. This is why I said everyone has their own definition of what reckless behavior is (obviously at the time you did not view what you were doing as reckless). Just be thankful that you stopped before you killed someone. Maybe that DUI was your intervention.

But you are right; whether one decides to wear a Jimmy Cap or not is between two consenting adults. I was only commenting on the idea of reckless individuals giving reckless advice. It's sort of like the blind leading the blind.

As Devin the Dude said: ". No one will suffer but you; so do what the fuck you want to do."[/QUOTE]That is "f. Ing" true, though I don't like to use that word. I was ignorant and underestimated the effects of driving drunk. That is exactly why I think the law also has a first time offenders waiver, without which people like me will be doomed. I did learn from it and that was the point I was trying to make.

The Jimmy stuff is tricky. The only way to truly protect yourself is abstinence, the other best way is you make sure you use condoms all the time. You do not control others actions or strong arm or bully them into your ways.

As far as the Devin the Dude says or reckless behaviour, that applies to mongering as a whole IMHO, esp. In distant foreign lands. Peace.

[i]Last Monday, February 20 it was for Ad (formerly manager of the Black Box Bar on the beach of Sosúa) , the first day as manager of bar / nightclub 'La Gran Velero'. This bar / nightclub is still better known to everyone as 'Latino Bar'. On advice of Ad, all kinds of changes have been introduced. The pool tables are now moved back so on the right at the entrance there is more space for some cozy seats. There are new big TV screens installed where music videos are played. Prices for drinks are reduced to 80 pesos for a Bohemia beer and Cuba Libre. The music has changed too, from too loud and too much hip hop to music from the 70s and 80s and popular salsa, bachata and merengue.

Monday was the first evening for Ad as manager of 'La Gran Velero'. At 11 PM it was packed in the bar. The camareras did not knew what happened, they hadn't been so busy serving drinks for a long time. Ad and the owner Carlo, went from customer to customer to have a chat and were visibly pleased with this overwhelming interest. There were many customers (Germans, Canadians, Belgians, Dutch, Americans) of the Black Box present. It was a great start for the new manager of 'La Gran Velero'. Sosúa has another nice place to go where the prices are affordable, with good music and lots of fun. [/i] From Sosua News.

You can never underestimate the power of music to repel or attract customers.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1251420][i]Last Monday, February 20 it was for Ad (formerly manager of the Black Box Bar on the beach of Sosúa) , the first day as manager of bar / nightclub 'La Gran Velero'. This bar / nightclub is still better known to everyone as 'Latino Bar'. On advice of Ad, all kinds of changes have been introduced. The pool tables are now moved back so on the right at the entrance there is more space for some cozy seats. There are new big TV screens installed where music videos are played. Prices for drinks are reduced to 80 pesos for a Bohemia beer and Cuba Libre. The music has changed too, from too loud and too much hip hop to music from the 70s and 80s and popular salsa, bachata and merengue.

Monday was the first evening for Ad as manager of 'La Gran Velero'. At 11 PM it was packed in the bar. The camareras did not knew what happened, they hadn't been so busy serving drinks for a long time. Ad and the owner Carlo, went from customer to customer to have a chat and were visibly pleased with this overwhelming interest. There were many customers (Germans, Canadians, Belgians, Dutch, Americans) of the Black Box present. It was a great start for the new manager of 'La Gran Velero'. Sosúa has another nice place to go where the prices are affordable, with good music and lots of fun. [/i] From Sosua News.

You can never underestimate the power of music to repel or attract customers.[/QUOTE]The pool tables are now over by the bathroom area. Its owned by a Canadian and Dominican. It was not packed last night. I counted eight guys at the bar, but the tables that now occupy the old pool area was full. And you are correct, mostly European and all white.

The new place"Pop" across the street was better. The girls wear white tops and red hot pants shorts. The girls have energy and look happy. The also serve food curbside.

Met the brother"Roz" that owns the new bar in front of the Europa hotel. He is from NY and used to play ball. He saw me walking by and introduced himself. They also have food. I encourage everyone to stop by and say Hello. Tell him Gogo sent you.

La Rocas is still vacant. PJs is still vacant. Seacrest is still vacant. The bar across from PJs diagonally, on the corner was closed. Don't know about this real estate boom someone was recently talking about. All these are prime locations that are sitting empty.

Talked to Lous of "Shark bar" fame last night. He seemed to be excited about his future.

Left Classicos at midnight and the ratio was 1-1. Maybe slightly more dudes."La Gran Velero was mostly dudes."Cuba Lbre bar" was closed, Fred is out of town.

I tried contacting Hispaniola Villas at this email address, but they haven't responded:

[email]hispaniolarent@codetel.net.do[/email]

Does anyone have any other means to contact them? I'm specifically looking at Villa 67 since it is supposed to be walking distance to the center of Sosua. My group would consider Casa Linda, but they don't want to rent a car. Any help is appreciated as usual.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2;1251722]Does anyone have any other means to contact them?[/QUOTE]1 809-571-2150

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1251676]The pool tables are now over by the bathroom area. Its owned by a Canadian and Dominican. It was not packed last night. I counted eight guys at the bar, but the tables that now occupy the old pool area was full. And you are correct, mostly European and all white.

The new place"Pop" across the street was better. The girls wear white tops and red hot pants shorts. The girls have energy and look happy. The also serve food curbside.

Met the brother"Roz" that owns the new bar in front of the Europa hotel. He is from NY and used to play ball. He saw me walking by and introduced himself. They also have food. I encourage everyone to stop by and say Hello. Tell him Gogo sent you.

La Rocas is still vacant. PJs is still vacant. Seacrest is still vacant. The bar across from PJs diagonally, on the corner was closed. Don't know about this real estate boom someone was recently talking about. All these are prime locations that are sitting empty.

Talked to Lous of "Shark bar" fame last night. He seemed to be excited about his future.

Left Classicos at midnight and the ratio was 1-1. Maybe slightly more dudes."La Gran Velero was mostly dudes."Cuba Lbre bar" was closed, Fred is out of town.[/QUOTE]So much for trying to ignore those Sosua drumbeats :D.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1251420][i]Last Monday, February 20 it was for Ad (formerly manager of the Black Box Bar on the beach of Sosúa) , the first day as manager of bar / nightclub 'La Gran Velero'. This bar / nightclub is still better known to everyone as 'Latino Bar'. On advice of Ad, all kinds of changes have been introduced. The pool tables are now moved back so on the right at the entrance there is more space for some cozy seats. There are new big TV screens installed where music videos are played. Prices for drinks are reduced to 80 pesos for a Bohemia beer and Cuba Libre. The music has changed too, from too loud and too much hip hop to music from the 70s and 80s and popular salsa, bachata and merengue.

Monday was the first evening for Ad as manager of 'La Gran Velero'. At 11 PM it was packed in the bar. The camareras did not knew what happened, they hadn't been so busy serving drinks for a long time. Ad and the owner Carlo, went from customer to customer to have a chat and were visibly pleased with this overwhelming interest. There were many customers (Germans, Canadians, Belgians, Dutch, Americans) of the Black Box present. It was a great start for the new manager of 'La Gran Velero'. Sosúa has another nice place to go where the prices are affordable, with good music and lots of fun. [/i] From Sosua News.

You can never underestimate the power of music to repel or attract customers.[/QUOTE]That's great news to me-Seems like somebody realized that catering to the older crowd was sorely lacking and considering they make up the majority of the male "tourist" there its about time somebody realized the void. Personally I don't care for rap or hip-hop but if that's your flavor enjoy it. I love the latin music and I lived and loved the70's era of music and DeeJayed in the 80's in nightclubs so I'll definitely be stoppin in to check it out Thanks for the update I'll be there in a couple of weeks.

[QUOTE=You Can;1250510]Well put my man![/QUOTE]You know I don't want to get into politics but the Drug companies rule in the USAA PERIOD. I met a guy once in Boca Chica he told me when you want drugs here in the DR you can ask for International and they'll give you the brand names. Also another thing he told me was nowdays the best pharmaceutical drugs are made in India-Germany and I think he said Sweden. USA companies care about one thing $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ just look at how their "miracle" drugs oxyies and roxies are destroying our youth. That it.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1251676]The pool tables are now over by the bathroom area. The new place"Pop" across the street was better. The girls wear white tops and red hot pants shorts. The girls have energy and look happy. The also serve food curbside.[/QUOTE]Mr. Gogo,

Say it's not so, my beloved Latino Club place has changed? I don't give a damn about the pool tables, but is the club in the back changed as well? 70s and 80s music, dear God, where is the mercy? Life just isn't fair, and that's the way it is; dammit! Ramba was across the street for Latino, are you saying the place is called "Pop" now?

The bozs from the "Westside" will be coming to town in the near future all decked out with extra large gold chains, wife beater tee's, and baggy as fuck pants. My new pair hangs as low as my knees. The "Deep" will be pounding the hoes with his magical chocolate jackhammer! Personally, I'm going to have Patricia pay my ass for the pounding! NY Shitty ain't got a damn thing on the "Westside!":D

[quote=tomjackin;1251865]the bozs from the "westside" will be coming to town in the near future all decked out with extra large gold chains, wife beater tee's, and baggy as fuck pants. My new pair hangs as low as my knees. The "deep" will be pounding the hoes with his magical chocolate jackhammer! Personally, i'm going to have patricia pay my ass for the pounding! Ny shitty ain't got a damn thing on the "westside!":d[/quote]WESTSIDE till we die! Lmfao

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1251865]Mr. Gogo,

Say it's not so, my beloved Latino Club place has changed? I don't give a damn about the pool tables, but is the club in the back changed as well? 70s and 80s music, dear God, where is the mercy? Life just isn't fair, and that's the way it is; dammit! Ramba was across the street for Latino, are you saying the place is called "Pop" now?

The bozs from the "Westside" will be coming to town in the near future all decked out with extra large gold chains, wife beater tee's, and baggy as fuck pants. My new pair hangs as low as my knees. The "Deep" will be pounding the hoes with his magical chocolate jackhammer! Personally, I'm going to have Patricia pay my ass for the pounding! NY Shitty ain't got a damn thing on the "Westside!".[/QUOTE]No! Rumba is still there, but fifty feet towards Classicos is "Pop". I love this as my new scout location. The girls have energy and one of the waitresses is half of the sisters at Latinos.

[QUOTE=Zedman99;1251811]That's great news to me-Seems like somebody realized that catering to the older crowd was sorely lacking and considering they make up the majority of the male "tourist" there its about time somebody realized the void. Personally I don't care for rap or hip-hop but if that's your flavor enjoy it. I love the latin music and I lived and loved the70's era of music and DeeJayed in the 80's in nightclubs so I'll definitely be stoppin in to check it out Thanks for the update I'll be there in a couple of weeks.[/QUOTE]I like different types of music, but when you are running a business, you have to think about what kind of ambience you want to create and what kind of customers you want to attract. Deafening loud music and low lighting makes it impossible to have a conversation, but encourages people to get physically very close together and shout into each other's ear, hopefully leading to later intimacy. There may also be dancing. If that is the business model, so be it. On the other hand if you want to attract groups of drinkers who may want to talk to each other, then the deafening music has to go and you may want music that reminds your patrons of their salad days, or tunes that people can sing along to. If you have televisions showing non-stop German soccer, then it is obvious what client base you are going after.

I don't know to what extent local business study the demographics of tourist data. I was in La Sirena in Puerto Plata recently and the cashier asked me if I lived locally. I asked what this was about as she placed some check marks on the form on her clipboard, and she said the cashiers were conducting market research to determine how many "gringos" lived locally and used La Sirena. I hope they are not planning to change the music, as I like the background music they play which is mostly US music.

It is all just business, and of course you can change the model overnight.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1251749]So much for trying to ignore those Sosua drumbeats :D.[/QUOTE]Sosua is like a magnet that draws me there. Last night I went to a private party. Too bad people don't visit these bars of the main drag in Sosua, things go on there also. Today headed to the Carnival in La Vega, then back to SD in a couple days to meet a few ISG vets there for the big Carnival.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1251979]Sosua is like a magnet that draws me there. Last night I went to a private party. Too bad people don't visit these bars of the main drag in Sosua, things go on there also. Today headed to the Carnival in La Vega, then back to SD in a couple days to meet a few ISG vets there for the big Carnival.[/QUOTE]If it's not too late to change your plans tonight is usually a huge party in Santiago Near the monument hot chics everywhere!

Watch your ass in Lavega!!!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1251865]Mr. Gogo,

Say it's not so, my beloved Latino Club place has changed? I don't give a damn about the pool tables, but is the club in the back changed as well? 70s and 80s music, dear God, where is the mercy? Life just isn't fair, and that's the way it is; dammit! Ramba was across the street for Latino, are you saying the place is called "Pop" now?

The bozs from the "Westside" will be coming to town in the near future all decked out with extra large gold chains, wife beater tee's, and baggy as fuck pants. My new pair hangs as low as my knees. The "Deep" will be pounding the hoes with his magical chocolate jackhammer! Personally, I'm going to have Patricia pay my ass for the pounding! NY Shitty ain't got a damn thing on the "Westside!".[/QUOTE]Lmfao, Tomjackin you're a fool. Shout out to Cooley "7ft and counting the putas high" Save "the fine ass chicas" Pro, Puta Romeo, I can't believe, Latinod closed, but me and Tomjackin gunna invade the place, And warning for them putas, the Chocolate Jackhammer, will be powered up and loaded, ready to cause chaos and destrution! I'm ginna take alot of pictures to post for you guys to enjoy all my high lights, low lights or no lights at all, West Side all day everyday, C-walking, and our pants draggin and saggin, just one our many talents!

Reposted from the Santo Domingo thread:

I was on the way to meet Gogo at Barra Payan on night about 9:30. But first I had to make sure my Cupid girl was able to get a ride home. From my understanding I would be dropping her were there were taxis or guaguas or something. Well this girl had me driving all across town. You know if there were only a couple of turns then I could have made it back. But once we passed Av Venezuela I was like wait. Maybe you don't understand that I am not from here and I don't know where the hell I am. She kept saying we are really close but we were nowhere near close. More turns and what not. Meanwhile I'm complaining to her about the shitty streets and there being no lane markings. I finally told her look, you will just have to come to Barra Payan with me and I will give you money for a taxi from there.

So we are on the way to Barra Payan and she really doesn't know where it is. I told her to just get me to the president's house and I know from there. We passed Av. Mexico and I remembered 30 Marzo being off Av. Mexico. But maybe she knew something I didn't. The area looked familiar though because Jao had taken me around and I knew that I was close to the US Embassy. I told the girl that I thought it was the embassy but she said no that is a university.

Just then two Fed police came up beside us on a motorcycle. He was telling me to pull over. I was playing stupid just saying yeah okay but kept driving. They came up beside us again and did the same thing. So I finally pulled over. They were saying that I ran a light and asked for my driver's license. I handed it over and he went back to the motorcycle. That is when I separated my money putting it in my underwear, only keeping 500 pesos accessible in case I needed to hand it over to them.

He came back to the car and I was acting as if I did not speak Spanish. So he was trying to go through my girl saying something like the fine is 1000 pesos because of running a light. He told her that I could understand her. So I was talking in broken Spanish saying yeah this is my amante. She told him that we were looking for the sandwich shop because I had to meet a friend. He kept saying ticket ticket. So I said yeah just give me the ticket and I will go to the embajada manana. This happened a couple of times. I guess he was trying to stall out for me to offer him money. So they finally decided to give us a police escort us to Barra Payan. We followed them. It was about 10 minutes away. I called to let Gogo know what the deal was.

When we arrived he came back to the car still talking about a ticket and hoping to get some money. I told him the same thing. Yeah, just give me the ticket and I go to embajada manana. He finally got frustrated and just gave my license back. Then he said they brought us all the way to Barra Payan, still hoping for money. I shrugged my shoulders and they finally left. I got out of the car laughing my ass off and saw Gogo.

Jao has since informed me that the Federal Police can not issue tickets. Only Amvet can do that. You will see them out and about with neon green vests, a hat, and a ticket book.

Well played Mr International. The "dumb gringo" who pretends to not understand or speak any Spanish can come in handy in situations like this.

Play dumb all the way, speak bad spanish, act like you don't understand, etc. Unless you do something stupid (like my last time) and get caught getting a blow job in the car. That cost me a little.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1252080]Reposted from the Santo Domingo thread:

I was on the way to meet Gogo at Barra Payan on night about 9:30. But first I had to make sure my Cupid girl was able to get a ride home. From my understanding I would be dropping her were there were taxis or guaguas or something. Well this girl had me driving all across town. You know if there were only a couple of turns then I could have made it back. But once we passed Av Venezuela I was like wait. Maybe you don't understand that I am not from here and I don't know where the hell I am. She kept saying we are really close but we were nowhere near close. More turns and what not. Meanwhile I'm complaining to her about the shitty streets and there being no lane markings. I finally told her look, you will just have to come to Barra Payan with me and I will give you money for a taxi from there.

So we are on the way to Barra Payan and she really doesn't know where it is. I told her to just get me to the president's house and I know from there. We passed Av. Mexico and I remembered 30 Marzo being off Av. Mexico. But maybe she knew something I didn't. The area looked familiar though because Jao had taken me around and I knew that I was close to the US Embassy. I told the girl that I thought it was the embassy but she said no that is a university.

Just then two Fed police came up beside us on a motorcycle. He was telling me to pull over. I was playing stupid just saying yeah okay but kept driving. They came up beside us again and did the same thing. So I finally pulled over. They were saying that I ran a light and asked for my driver's license. I handed it over and he went back to the motorcycle. That is when I separated my money putting it in my underwear, only keeping 500 pesos accessible in case I needed to hand it over to them.

He came back to the car and I was acting as if I did not speak Spanish. So he was trying to go through my girl saying something like the fine is 1000 pesos because of running a light. He told her that I could understand her. So I was talking in broken Spanish saying yeah this is my amante. She told him that we were looking for the sandwich shop because I had to meet a friend. He kept saying ticket ticket. So I said yeah just give me the ticket and I will go to the embajada manana. This happened a couple of times. I guess he was trying to stall out for me to offer him money. So they finally decided to give us a police escort us to Barra Payan. We followed them. It was about 10 minutes away. I called to let Gogo know what the deal was.

When we arrived he came back to the car still talking about a ticket and hoping to get some money. I told him the same thing. Yeah, just give me the ticket and I go to embajada manana. He finally got frustrated and just gave my license back. Then he said they brought us all the way to Barra Payan, still hoping for money. I shrugged my shoulders and they finally left. I got out of the car laughing my ass off and saw Gogo.

Jao has since informed me that the Federal Police can not issue tickets. Only Amvet can do that. You will see them out and about with neon green vests, a hat, and a ticket book.[/QUOTE]

I have been a member of this site for years, but have never posted. All the insight and info on this site served me great in my European trips in the last few years, and I want to thank all of you fellow mongers for your great posts and contributions. I have booked my first trip to Sosua for Mar. 23-29, and I am as Giddy as a schoolboy to finally get to smack some DR Ass. LOL. I need the opinion and insight of you fellow mongers to settle a disagreement I am having with my travel partner about accomodations. He wants to do Sosua Bay Resort or Terralinda, because he wants to be in the middle of the action. I myself am leaning towards Hispaniola Beach condos which are about a mile down Pedro Clisante, because they are gorgeous, right on a Semi-Private Beach and the price for a 2-2. 5 is less than what we would pay for 2 seperate rooms at the afore mentioned hotels.

My questions are.

#1-Is this so far away from the action that we MUST rent a car or scooters?

#2-Is it dangerous to travel so far back to homebase at night on foot or scooters?

#3- Are there enough restaurants and shops on the East end of El Batey to keep us satisfied for a week?

#4- Can anyone recomend a nice oceanfront hotel near the action that won't break the bank?

I want a nice luxury room, and I am willing to be farther from the action to get a more affordable one. My buddy is more FuFu than he realizes, and I know he won't dig a run down musty room or deal with power, internet or water outages.

Thanks again so much for all your excellent post guys. Really, and I promise to post a full report and pics now that I have popped post cherry. LOL. Thanks in advance for nay feedback guys.

Azazel

I have been a member of this site for years, but have never posted. All the insight and info on this site served me great in my European trips in the last few years, and I want to thank all of you fellow mongers for your great posts and contributions. I have booked my first trip to Sosua for Mar. 23-29, and I am as Giddy as a schoolboy to finally get to smack some DR Ass. LOL. I need the opinion and insight of you fellow mongers to settle a disagreement I am having with my travel partner about accomodations. He wants to do Sosua Bay Resort or Terralinda, because he wants to be in the middle of the action. I myself am leaning towards Hispaniola Beach condos which are about a mile down Pedro Clisante, because they are gorgeous, right on a Semi-Private Beach and the price for a 2-2. 5 is less than what we would pay for 2 seperate rooms at the afore mentioned hotels.

My questions are.

#1-Is this so far away from the action that we MUST rent a car or scooters?

#2-Is it dangerous to travel so far back to homebase at night on foot or scooters?

#3- Are there enough restaurants and shops on the East end of El Batey to keep us satisfied for a week?

#4- Can anyone recomend a nice oceanfront hotel near the action that won't break the bank?

I want a nice luxury room, and I am willing to be farther from the action to get a more affordable one. My buddy is more FuFu than he realizes, and I know he won't dig a run down musty room or deal with power, internet or water outages.

Thanks again so much for all your excellent post guys. Really, and I promise to post a full report and pics now that I have popped post cherry. LOL. Thanks in advance for nay feedback guys.

Azazel

I AM NOT SURE PLAYING DUM WITH A PERSON IT. CATCH ONE THOSE JERKS ON A BAD DAY YOU NEVER KNOW. BEING A TOURIST MAY AFFORD A LITTLE COVER BUT YOU NEVER KNOW. [

QUOTE=Cagep1967; 1252201]Play dumb all the way, speak bad spanish, act like you don't understand, etc. Unless you do something stupid (like my last time) and get caught getting a blow job in the car. That cost me a little.[/QUOTE]

Well I got to say I love it here in Sosua and will definitelly come back. Had absolutely no problem with my Tourretes Syndrome. Just needed a little explanation. LOL just said "soy un pocito loco". This got them laughing and were very happy to oblige me. Still in Sosua. Leaving tomorrow. Checked out Passions last night. What a place. Before was just getting the chicas off the street. Will write a more thorough report when I arrive back in Canada. An interesting thing is that I went to Sosua Bay Resort. They put me in the building by the side entrance. Definitely chica friendly. No charge at all to bring the chicas in just need to leave their I'd and when they check out in the morning the desk holds them and calls the room to make sure all is ok. Next time I am renting an appartment though. Will post a report later. And thanks for all the advice.

[QUOTE=Chert1;1252298]Well I got to say I love it here in Sosua and will definitelly come back. Had absolutely no problem with my Tourretes Syndrome. Just needed a little explanation. LOL just said "soy un pocito loco". This got them laughing and were very happy to oblige me. Still in Sosua. Leaving tomorrow. Checked out Passions last night. What a place. Before was just getting the chicas off the street. Will write a more thorough report when I arrive back in Canada. An interesting thing is that I went to Sosua Bay Resort. They put me in the building by the side entrance. Definitely chica friendly. No charge at all to bring the chicas in just need to leave their I'd and when they check out in the morning the desk holds them and calls the room to make sure all is ok. Next time I am renting an appartment though. Will post a report later. And thanks for all the advice.[/QUOTE]I'm glad to see you are having a good time and everything is working out for you Chert1, Sosua isn't for everyone but personally I like it. Passions gets a bad rap sometimes because it is expensive compared to picking up freelancers but it is perfect for people that aren't familiar with the street scene or want girls that they are assured not to have problems with, I go there a few times almost every trip because I am almost guaranteed a good performance by the girl and the extra 30-40 bucks I have to pay isn't going to send me to the poor house and is worth it once in a while.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1252317]I'm glad to see you are having a good time and everything is working out for you Chert1, Sosua isn't for everyone but personally I like it. Passions gets a bad rap sometimes because it is expensive compared to picking up freelancers but it is perfect for people that aren't familiar with the street scene or want girls that they are assured not to have problems with, I go there a few times almost every trip because I am almost guaranteed a good performance by the girl and the extra 30-40 bucks I have to pay isn't going to send me to the poor house and is worth it once in a while.[/QUOTE]Good post. I am glad it all worked out for Chert1.

[QUOTE=Chert1;1252298]Well I got to say I love it here in Sosua and will definitelly come back. Had absolutely no problem with my Tourretes Syndrome. Just needed a little explanation. LOL just said "soy un pocito loco". This got them laughing and were very happy to oblige me. Still in Sosua. Leaving tomorrow. Checked out Passions last night. What a place. Before was just getting the chicas off the street. Will write a more thorough report when I arrive back in Canada. An interesting thing is that I went to Sosua Bay Resort. They put me in the building by the side entrance. Definitely chica friendly. No charge at all to bring the chicas in just need to leave their I'd and when they check out in the morning the desk holds them and calls the room to make sure all is ok. Next time I am renting an appartment though. Will post a report later. And thanks for all the advice.[/QUOTE]I just want to say, Excellent post, from your first asking the questions, to your executing, the advice flawlessly. The members here are a gold mine of endless information and advice. I must say I admire your courage, putting yourself out there, but I can honestly say, I am fairly new here to ISG, I haven't quite ran into a situation like yours, and R. T. F. F. Absolutely didn't apply to you, honestly I started myself, journeying back page after page, from the archives of wise information, Nothing even remotely similiar to your situation, (Standing Ovation for your Courage!)

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1252218]I have been a member of this site for years, but have never posted. All the insight and info on this site served me great in my European trips in the last few years, and I want to thank all of you fellow mongers for your great posts and contributions. I have booked my first trip to Sosua for Mar. 23-29, and I am as Giddy as a schoolboy to finally get to smack some DR Ass. LOL. I need the opinion and insight of you fellow mongers to settle a disagreement I am having with my travel partner about accomodations. He wants to do Sosua Bay Resort or Terralinda, because he wants to be in the middle of the action. I myself am leaning towards Hispaniola Beach condos which are about a mile down Pedro Clisante, because they are gorgeous, right on a Semi-Private Beach and the price for a 2-2. 5 is less than what we would pay for 2 seperate rooms at the afore mentioned hotels.

My questions are.

#1-Is this so far away from the action that we MUST rent a car or scooters?

#2-Is it dangerous to travel so far back to homebase at night on foot or scooters?

#3- Are there enough restaurants and shops on the East end of El Batey to keep us satisfied for a week?

#4- Can anyone recomend a nice oceanfront hotel near the action that won't break the bank?

I want a nice luxury room, and I am willing to be farther from the action to get a more affordable one. My buddy is more FuFu than he realizes, and I know he won't dig a run down musty room or deal with power, internet or water outages.

Thanks again so much for all your excellent post guys. Really, and I promise to post a full report and pics now that I have popped post cherry. LOL. Thanks in advance for nay feedback guys.

Azazel[/QUOTE]You say you have been a member for "years" but have never posted any useful information. You state that you have gotten good info. In the past that have been helpful in your "trips" to Europe, but not one report. You "promise" that you will post a full report and "pics", but have never done so in the past.

You sound like a politician running for office. Promises, promises.

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1252218]I have been a member of this site for years, but have never posted. All the insight and info on this site served me great in my European trips in the last few years, and I want to thank all of you fellow mongers for your great posts and contributions. I have booked my first trip to Sosua for Mar. 23-29, and I am as Giddy as a schoolboy to finally get to smack some DR Ass. LOL. I need the opinion and insight of you fellow mongers to settle a disagreement I am having with my travel partner about accomodations. He wants to do Sosua Bay Resort or Terralinda, because he wants to be in the middle of the action. I myself am leaning towards Hispaniola Beach condos which are about a mile down Pedro Clisante, because they are gorgeous, right on a Semi-Private Beach and the price for a 2-2. 5 is less than what we would pay for 2 seperate rooms at the afore mentioned hotels.

My questions are.

#1-Is this so far away from the action that we MUST rent a car or scooters?

#2-Is it dangerous to travel so far back to homebase at night on foot or scooters?

#3- Are there enough restaurants and shops on the East end of El Batey to keep us satisfied for a week?

#4- Can anyone recomend a nice oceanfront hotel near the action that won't break the bank?

I want a nice luxury room, and I am willing to be farther from the action to get a more affordable one. My buddy is more FuFu than he realizes, and I know he won't dig a run down musty room or deal with power, internet or water outages.

Thanks again so much for all your excellent post guys. Really, and I promise to post a full report and pics now that I have popped post cherry. LOL. Thanks in advance for nay feedback guys.

Azazel[/QUOTE]I may be wrong, but I don't think Hispaniola Beach condos are quite where you suggest. I think they are next to Infiniti Blu, off Calle Alejandro Martinez, although Pedro Clissante does run out into Alejandro Martinez at the end, so maybe that is what you mean. I don't think you would need a car, but it might be handy to rent a passola (scooter) , although if you are fit, it is within easy walking distance of the main entertainment district, plus you can use motoconchos. There are a few restaurants and bars in that area. I would say it is not dangerous to walk back there at night, because I have never heard of tourists being attacked while walking at night in Sosua and I have done it a lot myself. One of the reasons why I don't think it is dangerous is that there are armed nightwatchmen with guns sitting all over Sosua at night at hotels, banks, and businesses, and they are usually suspicious of any unusual activity in their zones of interest. To that extent I would say it is safer to walk around at night than in the US or the UK.

However don't be surprised if someone else on the board chips in and says that it IS dangerous. There is always more than one opinion.

However, since the condos no doubt have security, you might want to check out their policies on guests. Most likely they allow one per day and will hold the ID papers of the visitor in the guardhouse during the visit.

None of the other hotels are really ideal, but the Sosua Beach Club hotel at the non inclusive wing might be your best bet. Terra Linda is supposed to be nice inside, but in a somewhat crummy area and I imagine there would be a lot of traffic noise there. Power, Internet, and water outages are a fact of life anywhere in the DR. Better class accommodations do have backup generators, but broken water pipes can occur anywhere, and hotel wi-fi is always iffy and may go from excellent to barely moving for no apparent reason (maybe other users.) If you want reliable Internet I would definitely recommend buying a Claro prepaid Internet stick, though you might want to try out your hotel's wi-fi Internet first to see if it is good enough to meet your needs. Water is rarely a problem, but don't drink it. Worst case scenario is you have to get a bucket of water from the swimming pool to flush a WC, so don't sweat it.

I think the condo probably would be a good idea if you can afford it. It is nice to have a quiet place with a pool and a beach to go home to away from the prostitution scene.

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1252218]I have been a member of this site for years, but have never posted. All the insight and info on this site served me great in my European trips in the last few years, and I want to thank all of you fellow mongers for your great posts and contributions. I have booked my first trip to Sosua for Mar. 23-29, and I am as Giddy as a schoolboy to finally get to smack some DR Ass. LOL. I need the opinion and insight of you fellow mongers to settle a disagreement I am having with my travel partner about accomodations. He wants to do Sosua Bay Resort or Terralinda, because he wants to be in the middle of the action. I myself am leaning towards Hispaniola Beach condos which are about a mile down Pedro Clisante, because they are gorgeous, right on a Semi-Private Beach and the price for a 2-2. 5 is less than what we would pay for 2 seperate rooms at the afore mentioned hotels.

My questions are.

#1-Is this so far away from the action that we MUST rent a car or scooters?

#2-Is it dangerous to travel so far back to homebase at night on foot or scooters?

#3- Are there enough restaurants and shops on the East end of El Batey to keep us satisfied for a week?

#4- Can anyone recomend a nice oceanfront hotel near the action that won't break the bank?

I want a nice luxury room, and I am willing to be farther from the action to get a more affordable one. My buddy is more FuFu than he realizes, and I know he won't dig a run down musty room or deal with power, internet or water outages.

Thanks again so much for all your excellent post guys. Really, and I promise to post a full report and pics now that I have popped post cherry. LOL. Thanks in advance for nay feedback guys.

Azazel[/QUOTE]#1-yes you will need a car unless you don't mind walking quite a distance after drinking and chasing tail all night, not what I would want to do but it is technically walkable.

#2. Sosua is very safe generally but you will be walking out of the busy area so personally I wouldn't do it alone at night, but with a wingman I would though. Frannie's notion that the guys with shotguns at the banks might intervene on your behalf in my opinion is wishful thinking.

#3- no, not in my opinion. But then again you will probably end up renting a car or getting comfortable riding motoconchos but it sounds as if your wingman is a bit of a princess or inexperienced going to third world countries so I doubt he will go for riding motos. I like staying close to the action so I can stumble back to my hotel or condo, I don't mind a little noise, I make a little noise myself, haha.

#4-I would check out Las Terrazas condos, they are within walking distance but far enough away from the noise, I have stayed there many times. I've never stayed at Sosua Bay but some guys love it and other guys don't. You couldn't pay me to stay at Terra Linda again, they don't allow multiple girls and that is a no go for me and they fucked me on a credit card charge, I never ever use a credit card outside the USA but due to circumstances beyond my control I had to use it. When I got my statement they double billed me and I disputed it and they forged a second slip and the credit card company denied it. When I return to Sosua there is going to be a fucking firestorm over at that shit hole of a hotel. They didn't tell me they didn't allow more than one girl and when I tried to bring two girls back with me the night watchman was a complete asshole without being provoked by me, he is going to get his too believe me. That said, a lot of guys like Terra Linda.

Enjoy your trip.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1252415]#2. Sosua is very safe generally but you will be walking out of the busy area so personally I wouldn't do it alone at night, but with a wingman I would though. Frannie's notion that the guys with shotguns at the banks might intervene on your behalf in my opinion is wishful thinking.[/QUOTE]No my thinking was more that the presence of so many guys with shotguns snoozing in dark corners would be a deterrent to would-be muggers just as a wingman might act as a deterrent. Anyway I don't remember anyone ever posting here that they were attacked on the streets of Sosua except by female pickpockets. However people's tolerances may differ, so each to his own. I would not go out at night carrying any more than the money I intended to spend, not so much from fear of being robbed as concern that I might drop my wallet and lose it.

As you say, drinking alcohol may make people more vulnerable to misadventures. I once walked into a concrete block on a dark sidewalk in Sosua and broke a toe, and I had not even been drinking.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1249567]The first rule of Cupid is to always have a backup. And the second rule is to always have a backup to the backup.[/QUOTE]Problem is chicas seem to be late in principle, around here. Punctuality is the virtue of the bored, I guess. But it does make planning quite hard. Sometimes if even feels like work scheduling all these ladies, plus the chatting and IMing and Facebooking and al.

Bottom line, I am no fan of P4P neither, but feel good to be in Sosua and just go for a beer and just go with the flow (I mean, the first pretty face that happens to pass by.)

Guys, I have a Cupid girl that's 17 asking to visit (I am at the New Garden). Is this a no-no?

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1251354]You should look for the story DeepMpactt posted in response to this in the Puerto Plata forum. You guys make it sound like driving drunk is no big deal, but Deep's friend was killed by a drunk driver.

It only sounds like you stopped drinking and driving because you got a DUI. This is why I said everyone has their own definition of what reckless behavior is (obviously at the time you did not view what you were doing as reckless). Just be thankful that you stopped before you killed someone. Maybe that DUI was your intervention.

But you are right; whether one decides to wear a Jimmy Cap or not is between two consenting adults. I was only commenting on the idea of reckless individuals giving reckless advice. It's sort of like the blind leading the blind.

But as Devin the Dude said: ". No one will suffer but you; so do what the fuck you want to do."[/QUOTE]Man, not to bring anyone down, but please. If you're even buzzed, find alternate transportation I aint trying to preach to anyone, but some mongers You Can, Sammon, and now this clown thinks its somekind of artform to drive pissy drunk and get away with it, I had a close buddy that was killed, by a drunk driver R. I. P my buddy Glenn", I guess its so easy, to laugh it off, and this clown dismissed it, as first time offenders, well you S. O. B! Where do my buddy get his life back? Where's his first time do-over? There aint no re-dues, or What class can my buddy Glenn could take? , He would have loved to be here watching his 2 little kids growup or be near his loving wife, It will never happen, My buddy is gone forever. I realize most reading this post, probaly won't have to expierience of losing, a great friend, and father to a drunk driver, just a little backround my buddy was coming home from work, at night, while this coward ass drunk lady drove up, a freeway off ramp, the wrong way, and hit my buddys truck head on, as he was exiting the off ramp the right way, he was pronounced dead at the scene! Once again much love to all you mongers, that do the right thing, especially you Savepro321 for, mentioning my story. Peace and love. Deepmmpactt. R. I. P "Glenn" you are missed everyday.

[QUOTE=Sammy Sosa;1252464]Guys, I have a Cupid girl that's 17 asking to visit (I am at the New Garden). Is this a no-no?[/QUOTE]Do you really even have to ask? New Garden isn't going to let her in anyway thank goodness. Pervert.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1252434]No my thinking was more that the presence of so many guys with shotguns snoozing in dark corners would be a deterrent to would-be muggers just as a wingman might act as a deterrent. Anyway I don't remember anyone ever posting here that they were attacked on the streets of Sosua except by female pickpockets. However people's tolerances may differ, so each to his own. I would not go out at night carrying any more than the money I intended to spend, not so much from fear of being robbed as concern that I might drop my wallet and lose it.

As you say, drinking alcohol may make people more vulnerable to misadventures. I once walked into a concrete block on a dark sidewalk in Sosua and broke a toe, and I had not even been drinking.[/QUOTE]Good point, and very true about the sidewalks being the enemy at night, it makes the stumble home a drunken obstacle course.

[QUOTE=Sammy Sosa;1252464]Guys, I have a Cupid girl that's 17 asking to visit (I am at the New Garden). Is this a no-no?[/QUOTE]As long as you don't make it past first base you should be fine.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1252638]As long as you don't make it past first base you should be fine.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't spend any time with her except in a populated public place. There is a danger she could be setting you up for blackmail. Don't be alone with her and certainly not in your hotel. The chances of it being a scam are remote but, if it were, the consequences for you would be devastating. You would be assumed guilty of a very serious offence, both here and in your own country, and you would be unable to prove your innocence. Best to leave her out of your plans for a year.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1252657]I wouldn't spend any time with her except in a populated public place. There is a danger she could be setting you up for blackmail. Don't be alone with her and certainly not in your hotel. The chances of it being a scam are remote but, if it were, the consequences for you would be devastating. You would be assumed guilty of a very serious offence, both here and in your own country, and you would be unable to prove your innocence. Best to leave her out of your plans for a year.[/QUOTE]Mr. Pooter, Sammy Sosa is a famous Dominican baseball player, hence the reference to first base. I agree about the need for a chaperone.

[QUOTE=Sammy Sosa;1252464]Guys, I have a Cupid girl that's 17 asking to visit (I am at the New Garden). Is this a no-no?[/QUOTE]Only someone who actually replies to you with advice about how to meet her is actually stupider than you.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1252434]As you say, drinking alcohol may make people more vulnerable to misadventures. I once walked into a concrete block on a dark sidewalk in Sosua and broke a toe, and I had not even been drinking.[/QUOTE]Ahh.... your story reminded me of my mis-adventure once, in Singapore. I fell into a hole, on the sidewalk, around 9. 30PM. Almost thought I broke my leg so bad was the pain and so sudden the whole thing was, blood all over and worse, it took a long time to crawl out and get a taxi, to get back to the hotel and call a doc. Worse, I did not have a single drop of alcohol in me (which would have helped in numbing the pain) , having just got out of an Indian restaurant (in the Indian ghetto side) who immaculate assholes as they are, do not believe in serving anything but water. LOL.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1252660]Mr. Pooter, Sammy Sosa is a famous Dominican baseball player, hence the reference to first base. I agree about the need for a chaperone.[/QUOTE]I am aware who Sammy Sosa is. He was the second cousin of one of my first chicas in the DR. In the real world where such minority sports are totally ignored that is probably his greater claim to fame.

I guess "name a famous Dominican" is this continent's equivalent of "name a famous Belgian" in Europe?

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1252737] I guess "name a famous Dominican" is this continent's equivalent of "name a famous Belgian" in Europe?[/QUOTE] Is there one? Hey wait, Hercule Poirot! Oh well, Agatha Christie needs some credit too... LOL!

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1252737]I am aware who Sammy Sosa is. He was the second cousin of one of my first chicas in the DR. In the real world where such minority sports are totally ignored that is probably his greater claim to fame.

I guess "name a famous Dominican" is this continent's equivalent of "name a famous Belgian" in Europe?[/QUOTE]Well he is hardly up there with Hercule Poirot, but being related to a Pooter home run chica should be a source of pride.

[QUOTE=Zedman99;1252670]Only someone who actually replies to you with advice about how to meet her is actually stupider than you.[/QUOTE]It is only illegal to engage in acts of prostitution with minors, however it is best to avoid ambiguous situations that would put either party at risk. One has to assume that persons who post here are responsible adults who are seeking information and can make their own decisions if they have the right information. Does the person who replies place themselves at greater risk than the person who asks the question?

[QUOTE=Frannie;1252769]It is only illegal to engage in acts of prostitution with minors, however it is best to avoid ambiguous situations that would put either party at risk. One has to assume that persons who post here are responsible adults who are seeking information and can make their own decisions if they have the right information. Does the person who replies place themselves at greater risk than the person who asks the question?[/QUOTE]Frannie let's analyze the situation-An adult is communicating on a website specifically designed for dating and engages in conversation with a minor who is supposedly 17yrs. Old-Its not right no matter how you spin it.

Its wrong plain and simple.

And advising to meet in a public place was one reply-For What? Great, let one of her older Male relatives see her there with this adult male-I am sure he would be real understanding of the situation. Furthermore anyone who would post that question is not a responsible adult but someone who is irresponsible to say the least and makes others who reply to this garbage on this site look like deviates. Every country I visit I respect their customs and their laws and as a guest I dare not try to test them.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1252743]Is there one? Hey wait, Hercule Poirot! Oh well, Agatha Christie needs some credit too. LOL![/QUOTE]Good try but fictional characters don't count.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1252822]Good try but fictional characters don't count.[/QUOTE]Audrey Hepburn (born in Belgium) , Rene Magritte, Peter Paul Rubens, Adolf Sax, Georges Simenon, Toots Thielemans, Anton Van Dyck, Eddy Merckx, were all famous real Belgians, but only one of them, has far as I know, claimed to have had sex with over 2000 prostitutes, and it wasn't Audrey Hepburn. Stella Artois also deserves an honorable mention.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1252415]You couldn't pay me to stay at Terra Linda again, they don't allow multiple girls and that is a no go for me and they fucked me on a credit card charge, I never ever use a credit card outside the USA but due to circumstances beyond my control I had to use it. When I got my statement they double billed me and I disputed it and they forged a second slip and the credit card company denied it. When I return to Sosua there is going to be a fucking firestorm over at that shit hole of a hotel. They didn't tell me they didn't allow more than one girl and when I tried to bring two girls back with me the night watchman was a complete asshole without being provoked by me, he is going to get his too believe me. That said, a lot of guys like Terra Linda.
.[/QUOTE]That's pretty jacked-up that they did that. I know you are a 10th degree Black Belt when it comes to Sosua, so I had to read what you wrote again and saw that you only used your credit card (in the DR) due to circumstances beyond your control. Makes perfect sense now. But for you newbies out there, don't even try it! Cash is King in the DR and using your credit card may result in a similar situation, or worse.

As far as Terra Linda, you are correct that they do not allow more than one chica at a time. But they absolutely do not care how many chicas you bring back and forth to your room throughout the day or night. I also like the ambiance at TL. They always have 80's hits playing during the day over the speaker system, which does give you the feel of being at a resort (unless you absolutely hate music from the 80's, LOL). The only other place I know of that does this is Blackbeard's. And since Blackbeard's was the very first place I stayed on my first trip to the DR, 80's hits (for me) has now become synonymous with the DR, lol. I know before that "Shattered Dreams" by Johnny Hates Jazz had no significance (to me) :).

[QUOTE=Frannie;1252828]Audrey Hepburn (born in Belgium) , Rene Magritte, Peter Paul Rubens, Adolf Sax, Georges Simenon, Toots Thielemans, Anton Van Dyck, Eddy Merckx, were all famous real Belgians, but only one of them, has far as I know, claimed to have had sex with over 2000 prostitutes, and it wasn't Audrey Hepburn. Stella Artois also deserves an honorable mention.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. Other than Stella Artois and Georges Simenon, not a single name rings a bell. Well Hepburn aside! I can only think of coalmines.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1252834]
As far as Terra Linda, you are correct that they do not allow more than one chica at a time. But they absolutely do not care how many chicas you bring back and forth to your room throughout the day or night. I also like the ambiance at TL. They always have 80's hits playing during the day over the speaker system, which does give you the feel of being at a resort (unless you absolutely hate music from the 80's, LOL). The only other place I know of that does this is Blackbeard's. And since Blackbeard's was the very first place I stayed on my first trip to the DR. 80's hits (for me) has now become synonymous with the DR, LOL. I know before that "Shattered Dreams" by Johnny Hates Jazz had no significance (to me).[/QUOTE]

I will admit that TL is not without its flaws though. One MAJOR thing they need to work on changing is the fact that chicas can leave your room and get their IDs from the front desk without being escorted by you, and they (the front desk) also will not call your room to make sure everything is okay before they hand chicas back their ID. This is one area in where New Garden has the advantage security-wise, because chicas cannot get their ID back unless they are escorted by you to the front desk.

[QUOTE=Zedman99; 1252775]Frannie let's analyze the situation-An adult is communicating on a website specifically designed for dating and engages in conversation with a minor who is supposedly 17yrs. Old-Its not right no matter how you spin it.

Its wrong plain and simple.

And advising to meet in a public place was one reply-For What? Great, let one of her older Male relatives see her there with this adult male-I am sure he would be real understanding of the situation. Furthermore anyone who would post that question is not a responsible adult but someone who is irresponsible to say the least and makes others who reply to this garbage on this site look like deviates. Every country I visit I respect their customs and their laws and as a guest I dare not try to test them.[/QUOTE]You are 100% correct Sir and it's sad that no one else will agree with you.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1252854]I will admit that TL is not without its flaws though. One MAJOR thing they need to work on changing is the fact that chicas can leave your room and get their IDs from the front desk without being escorted by you, and they (the front desk) also will not call your room to make sure everything is okay before they hand chicas back their ID. This is one area in where New Garden has the advantage security-wise, because chicas cannot get their ID back unless they are escorted by you to the front desk.[/QUOTE]This was not at all my experience at New Garden. Almost all chicas left on their own after getting paid, got their IDs and were gone, while I went back to sleep or hit the shower.

I just returned from Sosua (SBR) , and I stayed at the Sosua Bay Resort for the 3rd time. However, it was the worst stay this time. First, they never returned my emails to make reservations and when I made calls. I arrived on Thursday evening, Feb. 16 at 5pm. When I arrived to SBR, the staff seemed as if they were going through motions with expressionless faces. When I got to my room in the monger section, I checked the sheets as I do in all hotels, and I found chica hair on the sheets. But the room phone didn't work, so I made the 5 minute walk to the front desk and made a complaint to the front desk by a grumpy maid. This took a hour.

Second, when I showered the drain in the tub didn't work. So I was wading in shin deep water. Because my phone didn't work, I had to walk to the front desk to complainabout that. As for the phone, I was told that non of the room phones were working in my section of the building (5) because of wiring. Each issue I chose to do before I settled down and unpack.

Third, the next day many people complained about not having towels. Folks complained about clean towels being removed by the maids, and one fella said he had no clean towels for 3 days. Also many rooms were half or not cleaned.

After asking staff why is the service so bad, I was told by people I know at the front desk, maids, restaurant, and security that they have not received pay for 3 months. So I guess either there's not enough staff or the employees were doing a work slow down to protest their lack of pay.

Also some people had no water at times, and there was a sewage problem. You can smell sewage in the hallways and some rooms.

I don't think I will be stay at Sosua Bay Resort on my next trip. Unlike Terra Linda, where I stayed on two occasions, Sosua Bay Resort wants full payment up front. So if you have a problem with the hotel, you already paid and will lose out if you change hotels.

[QUOTE=Kman1;1252863]This was not at all my experience at New Garden. Almost all chicas left on their own after getting paid, got their IDs and were gone, while I went back to sleep or hit the shower.[/QUOTE]Hey SavePros, I have to agree with Kman on this one. My five and only times staying at the NG, I never escorted the girls out. I was either too drunk, too tired, or in the "See ya, let's do lunch sometime." mode. Plus, I'm always on the top floor and there are way too many stairs to negotiate at that time in the morning!:D

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1252856]You are 100% correct Sir and it's sad that no one else will agree with you.[/QUOTE]Notice the 1st paragraph, ICE agents DO NOT COMMENT on their means of operation.

The USA Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or 'ICE', participates in investigating and capturing child sex tourists. In 2003 ICE launched 'Operation Predator', leading to the arrest of over 11, 000 child sexual abusers, including more than 1, 100 outside the United States. While ICE agents refuse to comment on their means and methods of operation, media reports have suggested the use of undercover agents, internet sting operations, and sophisticated technologies. ICE agents in Bangkok did say however that they often receive information from local NGOs about foreigners in Thailand whom they suspect of engaging in child sexual abuse. Sometimes USA based law enforcement, such as local Sheriff Departments and Parole Officers, inform them of known sex offenders who are traveling to the region. In both cases, local ICE agents work with their RTP counterparts to monitor the suspects' movements while in Thailand. [30]

Tourists from the United StatesUnder the PROTECT Act of April 2003, it is a federal crime, prosecutable in the United States, for a USA citizen or permanent resident alien, to engage in illicit sexual conduct in a foreign country with a person under the age of 18, whether or not the USA citizen or lawful permanent resident alien intended to engage in such illicit sexual conduct prior to going abroad. For purposes of the PROTECT Act, illicit sexual conduct includes any commercial sex act in a foreign country with a person under the age of 18. The law defines a commercial sex act as any sex act, on account of which anything of value is given to or received by a person under the age of 18. [42] Before congressional passage of the Protect Act of 2003, prosecutors had to prove that sex tourists went abroad with the intent of molesting children—something almost impossible to demonstrate. The Protect Act shifted the burden, making predators liable for the act itself. Penalties were doubled from 15 years in prison to 30. [7

[QUOTE=Sammy Sosa;1252464]Guys, I have a Cupid girl that's 17 asking to visit (I am at the New Garden). Is this a no-no?[/QUOTE]I'm not condoning this, I'm actually condemning this. But last week I did see a guy about 25 years old eating at Big D's on the beach with 3 extremely young ladies, girls even (est. 14-17). And nobody batted an eye except for me. He spoke perfect Spanish, but was not Domincan; maybe Puerto Rican. He was drinking a beer and they were drinking Cokes. He was all over the oldest one. She even called her mom while they were there but I couldn't make out what she was telling her.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1252938]I'm not condoning this, I'm actually condemning this. But last week I did see a guy about 25 years old eating at Big D's on the beach with 3 extremely young ladies, girls even (est. 14-17). And nobody batted an eye except for me. He was drinking a beer and they were drinking Cokes. He was all over the oldest one. She even called her mom while they were there but I couldn't make out what she was telling her.[/QUOTE]Mr E I commend you on condemning this predatory behavior by the poster which he blatantly admitted to.

Concerning the beach matter-You are making too many assumptions.

What bothers me is that this predator is allowed to post and even be on this site-some guest reading that post and the replies, who were giving advice like "meet in a public place". Might be inclined to think this is a predator site to some extent. And that doesn't bode well for people who are here to post and converse about LEGAL ADULT ONLY information and perspectives. There are people who read this site and loathe us-mainly because of jealousy-I don't think we should give them ammunition for their "Holier than Thou" agenda.

To the moderators-please screen posts like the one being discussed more carefully-it should have never been posted and the poster should be banned-IMO-Zedman

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca;1252873]I just returned from Sosua (SBR) , and I stayed at the Sosua Bay Resort for the 3rd time. However, it was the worst stay this time. First, they never returned my emails to make reservations and when I made calls. I arrived on Thursday evening, Feb. 16 at 5pm. When I arrived to SBR, the staff seemed as if they were going through motions with expressionless faces. When I got to my room in the monger section, I checked the sheets as I do in all hotels, and I found chica hair on the sheets. But the room phone didn't work, so I made the 5 minute walk to the front desk and made a complaint to the front desk by a grumpy maid. This took a hour.[/QUOTE]They have never returned my emails. I just usually call Glennis the manager and she makes my reservation for me. I was going to mention going through the motions and grumpiness due to not being paid, but I see you hit on it later. They should be used to it by now.

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca;1252873]Second, when I showered the drain in the tub didn't work. So I was wading in shin deep water. Because my phone didn't work, I had to walk to the front desk to complainabout that. As for the phone, I was told that non of the room phones were working in my section of the building (5) because of wiring. Each issue I chose to do before I settled down and unpack.[/QUOTE]I have never known the drain to work properly the times I have stayed there. If it did THEN I would think something was wrong.

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca;1252873]Third, the next day many people complained about not having towels. Folks complained about clean towels being removed by the maids, and one fella said he had no clean towels for 3 days. Also many rooms were half or not cleaned.[/QUOTE]They do not have reserve towels at the hotel. They have to restock the rooms with them as they clean the ones that are dirty.

[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca;1252873]After asking staff why is the service so bad, I was told by people I know at the front desk, maids, restaurant, and security that they have not received pay for 3 months. So I guess either there's not enough staff or the employees were doing a work slow down to protest their lack of pay. Also some people had no water at times, and there was a sewage problem. You can smell sewage in the hallways and some rooms.

I don't think I will be stay at Sosua Bay Resort on my next trip. Unlike Terra Linda, where I stayed on two occasions, Sosua Bay Resort wants full payment up front. So if you have a problem with the hotel, you already paid and will lose out if you change hotels.[/QUOTE]As I said last week, I'm back at the Europa for now. At $45 and wifi in the rooms it is the best deal in town.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1252856]You are 100% correct Sir and it's sad that no one else will agree with you.[/QUOTE]I for one whole heartedly agree with him.

[QUOTE=Zedman99;1252670]Only someone who actually replies to you with advice about how to meet her is actually stupider than you.[/QUOTE]I guess that is aimed at me. I think I would have done better to simpler have ignored his post but I was trying to be non-abrasive. I will revert to my normal abrasive mode of response in future. Yes, of course you are right. I was wrong to even respond. Boards like this should simply ignore such discussions and the mods should delete the original post.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1252889]Hey SavePros, I have to agree with Kman on this one. My five and only times staying at the NG, I never escorted the girls out. I was either too drunk, too tired, or in the "See ya, let's do lunch sometime." mode. Plus, I'm always on the top floor and there are way too many stairs to negotiate at that time in the morning!:D[/QUOTE]Hmm. The two times I stayed at New Garden (before discovering TL) Alfred (the German guy) was still running the place and this policy was in full effect. I guess Lorenzo doesn't enforce it though.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1253009]I guess that is aimed at me. I think I would have done better to simpler have ignored his post but I was trying to be non-abrasive. I will revert to my normal abrasive mode of response in future. Yes, of course you are right. I was wrong to even respond. Boards like this should simply ignore such discussions and the mods should delete the original post.[/QUOTE]I was taken back that anyone replied to his post and got a little carried away calling the respondents stupider than the Predator (which is what he is).By acknowledging your mistake it is self-evident you are not stupider.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1252952]As I said last week, I'm back at the Europa for now. At $45 and wifi in the rooms it is the best deal in town.[/QUOTE]Mr E, I guess that me and you are the last of the Mohegans still staying there, we might even have seen each other. Jeje LOL!

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1253027]Mr E, I guess that me and you are the last of the Mohegans still staying there, we might even have seen each other. Jeje LOL![/QUOTE]I've stayed at EUROPA my last 4 trips. Suits me just fine. No problems! LOL

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1252952]They have never returned my emails. I just usually call Glennis the manager and she makes my reservation for me. I was going to mention going through the motions and grumpiness due to not being paid, but I see you hit on it later. They should be used to it by now.

I have never known the drain to work properly the times I have stayed there. If it did THEN I would think something was wrong.

They do not have reserve towels at the hotel. They have to restock the rooms with them as they clean the ones that are dirty.

As I said last week, I'm back at the Europa for now. At $45 and wifi in the rooms it is the best deal in town.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply Mr. ET, from what I understand the actual owner of SBY is the owner of Classicos, and he wants to get rid of Glenys. Funny thing, her and her boss were not as visible on the property none of the 6 days this trip, but on my two other stays you always see them. One of the female employees verbally compared Glenys to a dog. Then her boss parks his BMW 8 cylinder up front at guess drop off. I think there is hostility between the administration and the staff. They are thinking the owner will change the administration soon, and Glenys will be gone

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1252400]You say you have been a member for "years" but have never posted any useful information. You state that you have gotten good info. In the past that have been helpful in your "trips" to Europe, but not one report. You "promise" that you will post a full report and "pics", but have never done so in the past.

You sound like a politician running for office. Promises, promises.[/QUOTE]ATH Trainer, I understand why you feel like that, I really do. Everyone here contributes and gives back the knowledge thay are given and then some. That is my intention, and let clarify about my trips. These European trips were work related, during which I was able to get a few days here and there for myself to explore my surroundings. These were not MONGER-TRIPS. I have no pictures to share, or exciting stories to tell. This forum helped me find the REd light district in Hamburg and a couple other German and Dutch cities, and for that I am thankful. I did not take pics of the girls, because I was reluctant to ask. Sosua is my first true monger trip, and I promise you ATH. You will see some pics and hear some stories. If you don't want to help me, then by all means to each their own, but it's nice to see that not everyone is so petty, childish, and vindictive.

Azazel

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1252401]I may be wrong, but I don't think Hispaniola Beach condos are quite where you suggest. I think they are next to Infiniti Blu, off Calle Alejandro Martinez, although Pedro Clissante does run out into Alejandro Martinez at the end, so maybe that is what you mean. I don't think you would need a car, but it might be handy to rent a passola (scooter) , although if you are fit, it is within easy walking distance of the main entertainment district, plus you can use motoconchos. There are a few restaurants and bars in that area. I would say it is not dangerous to walk back there at night, because I have never heard of tourists being attacked while walking at night in Sosua and I have done it a lot myself. One of the reasons why I don't think it is dangerous is that there are armed nightwatchmen with guns sitting all over Sosua at night at hotels, banks, and businesses, and they are usually suspicious of any unusual activity in their zones of interest. To that extent I would say it is safer to walk around at night than in the US or the UK.

However don't be surprised if someone else on the board chips in and says that it IS dangerous. There is always more than one opinion.

However, since the condos no doubt have security, you might want to check out their policies on guests. Most likely they allow one per day and will hold the I'd papers of the visitor in the guardhouse during the visit.

None of the other hotels are really ideal, but the Sosua Beach Club hotel at the non inclusive wing might be your best bet. Terra Linda is supposed to be nice inside, but in a somewhat crummy area and I imagine there would be a lot of traffic noise there. Power, Internet, and water outages are a fact of life anywhere in the DR. Better class accommodations do have backup generators, but broken water pipes can occur anywhere, and hotel wi-fi is always iffy and may go from excellent to barely moving for no apparent reason (maybe other users.) If you want reliable Internet I would definitely recommend buying a Claro prepaid Internet stick, though you might want to try out your hotel's wi-fi Internet first to see if it is good enough to meet your needs. Water is rarely a problem, but don't drink it. Worst case scenario is you have to get a bucket of water from the swimming pool to flush a WC, so don't sweat it.

I think the condo probably would be a good idea if you can afford it. It is nice to have a quiet place with a pool and a beach to go home to away from the prostitution scene.[/QUOTE]Frannie,

Thanks for your insight man, and yeah thats exactly what I meant about Calle Alejandro Martinez. (I can tell you know sosua. LOL) I am noticing that this indeed is far enough to merit motorized tranpo, because neither me or my wingman are very athletic or in good shape. LOL I may pursue some of the other rental choices from Hispaniola Real estate that are closer to the action as suggested by other members. (thanks Grandnash, and Hamster 101) The most important thing, is that my wingman has finally realized that the condos are the best choice and now its just a matter of finding the right one.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1252415]#1-yes you will need a car unless you don't mind walking quite a distance after drinking and chasing tail all night, not what I would want to do but it is technically walkable.

#2. Sosua is very safe generally but you will be walking out of the busy area so personally I wouldn't do it alone at night, but with a wingman I would though. Frannie's notion that the guys with shotguns at the banks might intervene on your behalf in my opinion is wishful thinking.

#3- no, not in my opinion. But then again you will probably end up renting a car or getting comfortable riding motoconchos but it sounds as if your wingman is a bit of a princess or inexperienced going to third world countries so I doubt he will go for riding motos. I like staying close to the action so I can stumble back to my hotel or condo, I don't mind a little noise, I make a little noise myself, haha.

#4-I would check out Las Terrazas condos, they are within walking distance but far enough away from the noise, I have stayed there many times. I've never stayed at Sosua Bay but some guys love it and other guys don't. You couldn't pay me to stay at Terra Linda again, they don't allow multiple girls and that is a no go for me and they fucked me on a credit card charge, I never ever use a credit card outside the USA but due to circumstances beyond my control I had to use it. When I got my statement they double billed me and I disputed it and they forged a second slip and the credit card company denied it. When I return to Sosua there is going to be a fucking firestorm over at that shit hole of a hotel. They didn't tell me they didn't allow more than one girl and when I tried to bring two girls back with me the night watchman was a complete asshole without being provoked by me, he is going to get his too believe me. That said, a lot of guys like Terra Linda.

Enjoy your trip.[/QUOTE]Manizales,

Thanks for your reply man, and yeah I think we will need some transpo if we want to stay in one of the beachfront luxury condos. There are some real nice and CHEAP ones up the road in Caberete and all in between, but Hispaniola is not so far and we have all that we need. We may have a 3rd Musketeer who will confirm time off tomorrow, so we may be looking for a 3 Bed Penthouse or perhaps Villa. Stay tuned and thanks.

Azazel

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1252218]#4- Can anyone recomend a nice oceanfront hotel near the action that won't break the bank?

I want a nice luxury room, and I am willing to be farther from the action to get a more affordable one. My buddy is more FuFu than he realizes, and I know he won't dig a run down musty room or deal with power, internet or water outages.

Thanks again so much for all your excellent post guys. Really, and I promise to post a full report and pics now that I have popped post cherry. LOL. Thanks in advance for nay feedback guys. Azazel[/QUOTE]I have Not been to Sosua in over three years. ISG member Mark Anthony has recommended Blue Bayou condo rental in Sosua, several times; [url]http://www.bluebayouatsosua.com/[/url]

I have taken non-pro type chicas for drinks at Piergiorgio Palace Hotel (quiet place) , tables overlook the water and at night lights shine on the water and you can see needle fish (snorkeling you can also see barracuda there) ; [url]http://www.piergiorgiopalace.com/.[/url] Piergiorgio Palace Hotel sits overlooking the water, it is about three blocks from Sosua Bay Hotel and about a block and a half from el neptuno condominium building (el neptuno is nice). I have no clue how chica friendly Piergiorgio Palace Hotel may or may not be. (El Neptuno 2 bedroom condo rentals were 100% chica friendly when I stayed there years ago).

Infiniti Blue condo rentals, I have no clue how chica friendly they may or may not be, [url]http://www.infiniti-blu.com/.[/url] Video of Infiniti Blu (Infiniti blu gardens and ocean v) ; [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vZKyMysod4[/url]

There are other rentals, that sit overlooking the water in Sosua.

In preparation for my trip to Sosua in late March I have been searching for girls in Badoo. Com. I was surprised by the response rate that so far I had from girls in the low to mid 20s (I am in my mid 40s). I have been chatting with a few of them and already got several phone numbers. By the way, I am fluent in Spanish so that is a big advantage for me. My sense is that these girls are non-pros, but are willing to spend time (and have sex) with a foreigner for a small gift or a nice dinner. One of them asked me if I could bring her some white chocolate. I will definitely post a report of my trip once I am back in early April.

Somebody in the forum mentioned that he was using Cupid to find girls. How does he do that? When I tried Cupid the Dominican Republic was not one of the countries in the list where you can search.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1252854]This is one area in where New Garden has the advantage security-wise, because chicas cannot get their ID back unless they are escorted by you to the front desk.[/QUOTE]I stayed at the NG on three separate trips. Last time was in Dec. 2011. I never escorted a chica to the front desk to retrieve her I'd. When we were do they walk themselves out.

[QUOTE=Flsailor; 1253343]In preparation for my trip to Sosua in late March I have been searching for girls in Badoo. Com. I was surprised by the response rate that so far I had from girls in the low to mid 20s (I am in my mid 40s). I have been chatting with a few of them and already got several phone numbers. By the way, I am fluent in Spanish so that is a big advantage for me. My sense is that these girls are non-pros, but are willing to spend time (and have sex) with a foreigner for a small gift or a nice dinner. One of them asked me if I could bring her some white chocolate. I will definitely post a report of my trip once I am back in early April.

Somebody in the forum mentioned that he was using Cupid to find girls. How does he do that? When I tried Cupid the Dominican Republic was not one of the countries in the list where you can search.[/QUOTE]Curious are you staying in Sosua your whole trip cus if you are there's REALLY no need for you to be hollering at the online chicas. U say you speak fluent Spanish so the town is your oyster. U figure from Costambar to Caberette with Sosua in the middle that there has to be thousands of available chicas. Why call and wait for a chica when you'll see better and finer as soon as you step out your hotel room.

[QUOTE=Flsailor; 1253343]In preparation for my trip to Sosua in late March I have been searching for girls in Badoo. Com. I was surprised by the response rate that so far I had from girls in the low to mid 20s (I am in my mid 40s). I have been chatting with a few of them and already got several phone numbers. By the way, I am fluent in Spanish so that is a big advantage for me. My sense is that these girls are non-pros, but are willing to spend time (and have sex) with a foreigner for a small gift or a nice dinner. One of them asked me if I could bring her some white chocolate. I will definitely post a report of my trip once I am back in early April.

Somebody in the forum mentioned that he was using Cupid to find girls. How does he do that? When I tried Cupid the Dominican Republic was not one of the countries in the list where you can search.[/QUOTE]It is a separate site all together, Dominicancupid. Com, thousands of girls.

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1253233]Manizales,

Thanks for your reply man, and yeah I think we will need some transpo if we want to stay in one of the beachfront luxury condos. There are some real nice and CHEAP ones up the road in Caberete and all in between, but Hispaniola is not so far and we have all that we need. We may have a 3rd Musketeer who will confirm time off tomorrow, so we may be looking for a 3 Bed Penthouse or perhaps Villa. Stay tuned and thanks.

Azazel[/QUOTE]The villas at Hispaniola are awesome and the girls love it. Almost all of them have their own private pools which is fun with the chicas and if you do get a third guy they are economical. You can't get crazy outside late at night though because there are families nearby that live there and you will get thrown out.

[QUOTE=Coolie High;1253453]Curious are you staying in Sosua your whole trip cus if you are there's REALLY no need for you to be hollering at the online chicas. U say you speak fluent Spanish so the town is your oyster. U figure from Costambar to Caberette with Sosua in the middle that there has to be thousands of available chicas. Why call and wait for a chica when you'll see better and finer as soon as you step out your hotel room.[/QUOTE]This is 100% true, plus any any "regular serious" chica will know what time it is the minute you say "I'm staying in sosua" The country pretty much knows any gringo who's staying in Sosua and now even cabarete for that matter will be partaking in wh0remongering! Regular chicas will try and avoid it like the plague for risk of being mislabeled!

[QUOTE=Flsailor; 1253343]In preparation for my trip to Sosua in late March I have been searching for girls in Badoo. Com. I was surprised by the response rate that so far I had from girls in the low to mid 20s (I am in my mid 40s). I have been chatting with a few of them and already got several phone numbers. By the way, I am fluent in Spanish so that is a big advantage for me. My sense is that these girls are non-pros, but are willing to spend time (and have sex) with a foreigner for a small gift or a nice dinner. One of them asked me if I could bring her some white chocolate. I will definitely post a report of my trip once I am back in early April.

Somebody in the forum mentioned that he was using Cupid to find girls. How does he do that? When I tried Cupid the Dominican Republic was not one of the countries in the list where you can search.[/QUOTE]You should be looking for Dominican Cupid. A word of caution. Be careful with trying to hook up with chicas online. If you are going to Sosua you don't really need a dating website. Fine, sexy women are available and all over the place. I think the reason we do it, is because we feel we need something to do before we can get can down there.

In Sosua you know exactly what you are getting in the moment. And you pay only for what you use, and thats it. Short time or All night. On a dating website, you don't know what the chick really looks like and some of her personality until you meet them. By the time you finish with that chick, you will probably be out a lot more money than if you just hooked up with a chica already in Sosua.

Sometimes you pay a greater expense with chicks from a dating websites. Just about all of them start asking for gifts or even money prior to your visit. They will start telling you about all of their problems and financial misfortunes. When it's time to hookup, you may have to spend money to get the chick to come to Sosua to be with you. Worse, they may ask you to send them money for transpo. You don't need any of that in Sosua. Both of you can walk to your hotel. Another thing to take into consideration. The chick you meet online is probably juggling dozens of other men interested in her. In Sosua, when a chica walks off with a guy they usually give all of their attention to that guy until she's leaving.

Online a chica may have several interests she's juggling, taking note of when each guy is coming to the Dom Rep on vacation. They can easily schedule a guy once they know when he's coming. What she does to survive in real life and how she may represent herself on the phone to you are two completely different perspectives. Since you are fluent in spanish maybe your experience may be different. And I'm also considering that you might just find a regular girl instead of a working girl undercover.

[QUOTE=Flsailor; 1253343]In preparation for my trip to Sosua in late March I have been searching for girls in Badoo. Com. I was surprised by the response rate that so far I had from girls in the low to mid 20s (I am in my mid 40s). I have been chatting with a few of them and already got several phone numbers. By the way, I am fluent in Spanish so that is a big advantage for me. My sense is that these girls are non-pros, but are willing to spend time (and have sex) with a foreigner for a small gift or a nice dinner. One of them asked me if I could bring her some white chocolate. I will definitely post a report of my trip once I am back in early April.

Somebody in the forum mentioned that he was using Cupid to find girls. How does he do that? When I tried Cupid the Dominican Republic was not one of the countries in the list where you can search.[/QUOTE]If I was fluent in spanish I wouldn't step foot in Sosua, plenty of hot chicas everywhere and they won't be as hardcore as Sosua. Don't get me wrong, Sosua is a fun place but if you are fluent in spanish you can get girls all over the DR and won't have to be bedding full time putas. You'll still pay, just indirectly and they won't have as many miles on them.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1253489]If I was fluent in spanish I wouldn't step foot in Sosua, plenty of hot chicas everywhere and they won't be as hardcore as Sosua. Don't get me wrong, Sosua is a fun place but if you are fluent in spanish you can get girls all over the DR and won't have to be bedding full time putas. You'll still pay, just indirectly and they won't have as many miles on them.[/QUOTE]Truth...every which way. A Spanish speaker has very little need for Sosua even though it is an experience (in my case, it helped me with a soft landing on my first trip and also thanks to Frannie's help) and certainly, there is no free dinner or lunch. Forget the D. R, nowhere actually!

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1253471]The villas at Hispaniola are awesome and the girls love it. Almost all of them have their own private pools which is fun with the chicas and if you do get a third guy they are economical. You can't get crazy outside late at night though because there are families nearby that live there and you will get thrown out.[/QUOTE]Manizales & Gang,

I was afraid of that with the villas. I thought having a private pool and jacuzzi to get wild in would be great, but I don't want to have to be quiet at night while we skinny dip. LOL. Does anyone know for sure if; [url]http://www.bluebayouatsosua.com/[/url]

Is chica friendly? Those are right in the thick of it and absolutely luxurious. Both Hispaniola Beach and Infiniti Blue are much farther, but even more luxurious I think. With 3 of us I see us renting a car anyway, but it would be nice if we diddn't have to. I also discovered that the weekly rate is often less than 5 nights. So eventhough we are staying 6 nights, we are better off renting the whole week.

Azazel

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1253489]If I was fluent in spanish I wouldn't step foot in Sosua, plenty of hot chicas everywhere and they won't be as hardcore as Sosua. Don't get me wrong, Sosua is a fun place but if you are fluent in spanish you can get girls all over the DR and won't have to be bedding full time putas. You'll still pay, just indirectly and they won't have as many miles on them.[/QUOTE]Good post.

Anyone that's been to Sosua lately seen this brotha? I'm hoping he is still around when I get there. Says he is cooking Thursday thru Sunday. Judging from the video he definitely knows what he is doing when it comes to ribs!

[b]BigD's Place BBQ on Sosua Beach[/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_b9jfw6sBw[/url]

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1253808]Anyone that's been to Sosua lately seen this brotha? I'm hoping he is still around when I get there. Says he is cooking Thursday thru Sunday. Judging from the video he definitely knows what he is doing when it comes to ribs!

[b]BigD's Place BBQ on Sosua Beach[/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_b9jfw6sBw[/url][/QUOTE]I've eaten at Big D's a bunch of times, good stuff. Problem is you never know when he's going to be open, the last three times I went there he was closed.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1253808]Anyone that's been to Sosua lately seen this brotha? I'm hoping he is still around when I get there. Says he is cooking Thursday thru Sunday. Judging from the video he definitely knows what he is doing when it comes to ribs!

[b]BigD's Place BBQ on Sosua Beach[/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_b9jfw6sBw[/url][/QUOTE]Ate there the week before last. It was pretty good, but if Rocky's had more meat on the bones...

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1253533]Manizales & Gang,

I was afraid of that with the villas. I thought having a private pool and jacuzzi to get wild in would be great, but I don't want to have to be quiet at night while we skinny dip. LOL. Does anyone know for sure if;

[url]http://www.bluebayouatsosua.com/[/url]

Is chica friendly? Those are right in the thick of it and absolutely luxurious. Both Hispaniola Beach and Infiniti Blue are much farther, but even more luxurious I think. With 3 of us I see us renting a car anyway, but it would be nice if we diddn't have to. I also discovered that the weekly rate is often less than 5 nights. So eventhough we are staying 6 nights, we are better off renting the whole week.

Azazel[/QUOTE]In any condo or villa you stand a chance of getting thrown out if you make a bunch of noise at 3 a. M. Outside and wake your neighbors. Same thing can happen in a hotel for that matter. I've been tossed from two villas and a condo for being too loud but I have also made a ruckus and didn't have a problem, it depends on who your neighbors are and not necessarily dependent on the particular facility, if someone complains you are warned and if the watchyman comes back a second time you're out.

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1253533]Manizales & Gang,

I was afraid of that with the villas. I thought having a private pool and jacuzzi to get wild in would be great, but I don't want to have to be quiet at night while we skinny dip. LOL. Does anyone know for sure if;

[url]http://www.bluebayouatsosua.com/[/url]

Is chica friendly? Those are right in the thick of it and absolutely luxurious. Both Hispaniola Beach and Infiniti Blue are much farther, but even more luxurious I think. With 3 of us I see us renting a car anyway, but it would be nice if we diddn't have to. I also discovered that the weekly rate is often less than 5 nights. So eventhough we are staying 6 nights, we are better off renting the whole week.

Azazel[/QUOTE]Car rental for a first time visit, not necessary for Sosua (unless you want to go and play golf often or visit cabarete often or want to visit puerto plata often). Airport is 10 minutes from Sosua. You could send ISG member Mark Anthony a PM to get more about info about blue bayou condo rental or send blue bayou an email and ask them about their guest / visitors policy. Many condos in Sosua are owned by English speaking persons, who rent out the condos when they are not in Sosua. Taking the 125cc motorcycle taxis short distances is no great pain, fare should be under 50 pesos.

Hotel- I stayed at the sosua bay resort.

It was ok no problem with guests, but the food was like a high school lunch room.

Rate of Cash= 38. 9 for 1us

Girls all over day time or night time.

1500 for short or all night is all I paid. Cheap compare to Rio.

Clubs. I went to Classico 5 nights and 1 night to afther 1.

The same girls minus the ones that were pick up in classico, The rest go to afther one.

Over all nice 7 day trip.

Big D is open me and My buddies ate there. I had the chicken is was good and my two friends had the Ribs and said they were great.

This is 4 you Vets that go to Classico. There is a Mocha colored girl with nice stright hair maybe a wave and a body to die 4.

She looks like a Amazon Model but seem to suck up 4 me and I alway go by Vibe.

I talk to a guy from the US who was talking to her and he said she wanted 6k.

He said she was not budgeing I guess with Westen U guys sending you money you don't have to.

BTW he did take her it was my last night so don't if she was worth it. Eventhough 6k is only 150us and for all night not bad 4 her looks.

In New York she would charge 2 to 300us or more for a hour.

I will be back in April. I also never saw the police arrest any girls day or night 4 being alone.

2 pic attach. The girl in Blue was a hookup From a Nice driver slash Pimp. He took me to some bar / club were she met us in POP.

Its was a waste of time she's a dead fish in the short stay and wanted 800us per month to be my girl friend, because she love me and wanted to quit hoeing.

Well she seem like she quit cause she sucks. I gave her 1500, gave the driver 2000 for the round trip and hook up. Plus spent another 1200 on drinks and food.

Never ever never ever agian, But she is fine with a bunch of Westen U boyfriend I am sure.

The one in pink a classico girl she was good and I did her friend the next night she was also good.

[QUOTE=Scotch; 1253835]Hotel- I stayed at the sosua bay resort.

It was ok no problem with guests, but the food was like a high school lunch room.

Rate of Cash= 38. 9 for 1us

Girls all over day time or night time.

1500 for short or all night is all I paid. Cheap compare to Rio.

Clubs. I went to Classico 5 nights and 1 night to afther 1.

The same girls minus the ones that were pick up in classico, The rest go to afther one.

Over all nice 7 day trip.

Big D is open me and My buddies ate there. I had the chicken is was good and my two friends had the Ribs and said they were great.

This is 4 you Vets that go to Classico. There is a Mocha colored girl with nice stright hair maybe a wave and a body to die 4.

She looks like a Amazon Model but seem to suck up 4 me and I alway go by Vibe.

I talk to a guy from the US who was talking to her and he said she wanted 6k.

He said she was not budgeing I guess with Westen U guys sending you money you don't have to.

BTW he did take her it was my last night so don't if she was worth it. Eventhough 6k is only 150us and for all night not bad 4 her looks.

In New York she would charge 2 to 300us or more for a hour.

I will be back in April. I also never saw the police arrest any girls day or night 4 being alone.

2 pic attach. The girl in Blue was a hookup From a Nice driver slash Pimp. He took me to some bar / club were she met us in POP.

Its was a waste of time she's a dead fish in the short stay and wanted 800us per month to be my girl friend, because she love me and wanted to quit hoeing.

Well she seem like she quit cause she sucks. I gave her 1500, gave the driver 2000 for the round trip and hook up. Plus spent another 1200 on drinks and food.

Never ever never ever agian, But she is fine with a bunch of Westen U boyfriend I am sure.

The one in pink a classico girl she was good and I did her friend the next night she was also good.[/QUOTE]OUT-FUCKING STANDING REPORT BRO! FIVE STARS! Definitely someone who RTFF and hit the ground running. Thank you for the photos and the intel update as well!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1253848]OUT-FUCKING STANDING REPORT BRO! FIVE STARS! Definitely someone who RTFF and hit the ground running. Thank you for the photos and the intel update as well![/QUOTE]I'm headin' to Sosua soon. Glad to hear everything is going well there. Never did care for guys trying to pimp or take me to bars where there are "better chicas". Seems like scotch could have got the "Classico Amazon" instead of takin' the total bill for "the dead fish" as he affectionately called her. But like he said "Overall nice trip"

That's what counts.

Zedman

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1253818]Car rental for a first time visit, not necessary for Sosua (unless you want to go and play golf often or visit cabarete often or want to visit puerto plata often). Airport is 10 minutes from Sosua. You could send ISG member Mark Anthony a PM to get more about info about blue bayou condo rental or send blue bayou an email and ask them about their guest / visitors policy. Many condos in Sosua are owned by English speaking persons, who rent out the condos when they are not in Sosua. Taking the 125cc motorcycle taxis short distances is no great pain, fare should be under 50 pesos.[/QUOTE]Jaosousa,

First of all; I want to tell you that I have enjoyed all of your many posts and pics man, and on behalf of all of the fellow ISG members and myself who have been prevy to the plethora of useful knowledge that you have provided us. Thank you Jaosousa. With that said, I am abolutely stoked to embark on my first DR mission in 3 weeks. I just want to be comfy, and maybe get a view of the ocean out of a window or balcony. Idealy, I want to be close enuff to the action that I can stumble home, but do you think that the condos are a better value for 3 guys? Dollars and cents wise, we're looking at about $600 US per head x 3 for 6 nights in any of the 3 hotels we have narrowed it to (Sosua Bay resort, Terralinda, and New Garden new Jacuzzi rooms) I think that for $1800. 00 US (or hopefully less) we should be able to rent a bad ass 3/3 plus either beachfront Penthouse or Villa for an entire week. Am I expecting too much. Blue Bayou is good in luxury and perfect in location, but do they have 3/3? I will contact Mark Anthony as you suggested, and inquire about the apartment. Thanks again and happy mongering.

P. S. I appreciate all the feedback guys, but I think Jackson would probably appreciate if we moved this to the appropriately named " Sosua Hotel Forum ". I will promptly and appreciatively reply to any responses to this post, but I will post the remainder of my hotel questions there.

Azazel

I want to thank you guys for all the valuable information. When I have read posts about guys and their "novias", I thought I would never be such a sucker. I am home a week now and can't stop thinking about the little cutie I met in Sosua. She is in love with me and kisses my pictuce befor bed at night. Even though you know it's all bullshit, I can see how you can get sucked in. Every morning a man called for her. She said it was her brother but I'll bet it was her pimp husband. She has "called me" (rings and hangs up) twice since I'm home but has not asked for money yet. I spent a couple of days at Black beards. It is a nice place with some cute girls but the sex was lame compared to Sosua. It was my first time but I hope not the last.

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1253971]I think that for $1800. 00 US (or hopefully less) we should be able to rent a bad ass 3/3 plus either beachfront Penthouse or Villa for an entire week. Am I expecting too much.

Azazel[/QUOTE]Manizales and other guys have info on places that can accommodate 3 guys.

Thanks for the kind words. From recent photos and trip reports, Sosua will have plenty of pretty chicas for you and your friends. Sosua is a pleasant town, easy to walk around, you can have fun there. The largest place I stayed at in Sosua was el neptuno, two bedroom, two bathroom apartments.

Casa los Suenos in Sosua is 5 bedrooms; [url]http://www.casalossuenos.com/.[/url] I remember reading posts where guys rented Villa California in the playa chiquita section of sosua, (3 bedroom villa). I remember a post that occurred at the villa california, that included naked women and a Dominican midget (A Dominican midget used to hang out in the bars in Sosua and Puerto Plata). Playa Chiquita in Sosua, had or still has a casino and disco, that stayed open late.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1253489]If I was fluent in spanish I wouldn't step foot in Sosua, plenty of hot chicas everywhere and they won't be as hardcore as Sosua. Don't get me wrong, Sosua is a fun place but if you are fluent in spanish you can get girls all over the DR and won't have to be bedding full time putas. You'll still pay, just indirectly and they won't have as many miles on them.[/QUOTE]How much should one expect to spend on a chica? Did the cost rise? How much is too much or standard? Has anybody picked up a girl without having to pay the price? A girl who just wanted to hang out? I guess in Sosua that is laughable.

There's so many great info on here. I wish I had more time to read more of the forum.

[QUOTE=BondStyle;1254296]How much should one expect to spend on a chica? Did the cost rise? How much is too much or standard? Has anybody picked up a girl without having to pay the price? A girl who just wanted to hang out? I guess in Sosua that is laughable.[/QUOTE]It just depends what you want to pay and what your negotiating skills are like. I was in Sosua the other day and I wasn't really looking for a girl per se (just browsing) , but I was accosted by an extraordinarily attractive (to me) girl whom I had never seen before. She asked me to spend some time with her and I told her that she was gorgeous, but I had very little money on me. She asked how much I had. I said 1000 pesos. She said "I'll take your 1000 pesos", so off we went.

She seemed rather inexperienced with regards to the sexual part of the transaction, but willing to please.

If it is important to you not to pay much for sex, then you can certainly get laid for as little as 1000 pesos, (or less actually) , but realistically if you are new to the scene and not prepared to walk if your bid is not accepted, then anything from 1200 up to 2000 pesos is not really unreasonable. If you are going to Sosua for the first time for a few days sex vacation, I would budget plenty of money and not work yourself into too much of a sweat over prices. On the other hand you should know enough to recognize that if a girl is asking for 3000 pesos and up, then you probably don't have to pay that much. These girls are not licensed professionals. They will ask for what they think they can get, or sometimes they will ask for more money if they don't really want to go with you, and hope to put you off. In my opinion it is always better to go for the girl who you feel you have good chemistry with, rather than just head for the best looking girl prepared to outbid all competition as this strategy will not necessarily pay off with a better sexual experience.

What is the right price? The right price is the price that both parties voluntarily agree to.

You are not likely to find Dominican women in Sosua looking for recreational sex with foreigners without money changing hands. Yes, you can get sex without paying if the girl thinks you are a good longer term relationship prospect, though in the long run this will almost certainly cost more than paying for instasex.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1253020]Hmm. The two times I stayed at New Garden (before discovering TL) Alfred (the German guy) was still running the place and this policy was in full effect. I guess Lorenzo doesn't enforce it though.[/QUOTE]No. Was at NG this week and did not need to escort anybody out.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1254511]How much should one expect to spend on a chica? Did the cost rise? How much is too much or standard? Has anybody picked up a girl without having to pay the price? A girl who just wanted to hang out? I guess in Sosua that is laughable.[/QUOTE]As a newbie, spanish-speaker, negotiated 1k. 1.5k for "a few hours", and paid 1. 5k. 2k. They were all clearly happy with that.

[QUOTE=Azazel42;1253971]Car rental for a first time visit, not necessary for Sosua (unless you want to go and play golf often or visit cabarete often or want to visit puerto plata often).[/QUOTE]. Or go meet Chicas in Los Charamicos, pay a visit to a Cupid Santiagena or end up nights in small bars along the carratera with that wild pot-smoking chick.

I personally intend to rent a car for all future trips to DR.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1253531]If I was fluent in spanish I wouldn't step foot in Sosua, plenty of hot chicas everywhere and they won't be as hardcore as Sosua.[/QUOTE]I respectfully disagree.

At Sosua, looking carefully, I met plenty of chicks that were not hardcore at all. Usually going for those more conservatively dressed, younger, standing aside and shy-looking, often in noisy places or earlier in the day. Offered them a beer in a more quiet bar. Then go dancing if affinity. Then negotiation if I like her.

I still relied primarily on my Cupid "rollodex", but Sosua was great backup.

[QUOTE=Sammy Sosa;1254520]No. Was at NG this week and did not need to escort anybody out.[/QUOTE]Hey Sammy. The policy on escorting women out should be monger code 101. It protects the guy and the establishment. Its not cool having unescorted girls running around where you stay. Theft, violence, and all sorts of crimes can happen. I'm seeing some lazy guys (not you) lately who don't give a fuck about basic mongerers code, but when they wake up after being drugged with all their shit missing, then they will say" I didn't escort her out, the hotel shouldve known I was in trouble".

[QUOTE=Sammy Sosa;1254521]As a newbie, spanish-speaker, negotiated 1k. 1.5k for "a few hours", and paid 1. 5k. 2k. They were all clearly happy with that.[/QUOTE]Ok, me and a fellow monger have a good natured bet, I told him I found a chica, in Sosua, and we have been, texting back and forth, and she NEVER, EVER, have asked me for ANYTHING. I must admit I cringe for the puta sob story, and brace for impact! Mayday! Mayday! And she has never onced, asked for a single, peso, I told my boy Puta Romeo, I'm going to take care of her, when I get to Sosua, and I will bring her gifts, The bet was I dare not, put this information on ISG, or Ill be sorry, but he doesn't realize, I don't care. And I love the mongering opinions hefe. Shoutout Tomjackin, Coolie "7ft""High, Alwayshorny2, jaososua, Mr Enternational, Bbq ribs, so prepare too fire, but not only am I "ISG bullet proof" I got many homies! Fire!

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt;1254855]Ok, me and a fellow monger have a good natured bet, I told him I found a chica, in Sosua, and we have been, texting back and forth, and she NEVER, EVER, have asked me for ANYTHING. I must admit I cringe for the puta sob story, and brace for impact! Mayday! Mayday! And she has never onced, asked for a single, peso, I told my boy Puta Romeo, I'm going to take care of her, when I get to Sosua, and I will bring her gifts, The bet was I dare not, put this information on ISG, or Ill be sorry, but he doesn't realize, I don't care. And I love the mongering opinions hefe. Shoutout Tomjackin, Coolie "7ft""High, Alwayshorny2, jaososua, Mr Enternational, Bbq ribs, so prepare too fire, but not only am I "ISG bullet proof" I got many homies! Fire![/QUOTE]I just bought my novia's brother a used playstation for $40 dollars. I tip the maid when I leave. I like being nice and giving gifts. You get a more dedicated women in my opinion. I know my novia does not make a lot at her job and lives in a three room house with her mother and step father and two little brothers and sister. Someone said do not bring any gifts to the family. I just cannot be that cheap. I bang a chick all week like 20 times and I give her like $200. 00 dollars and a couple gifts. I can go to a club in new York and spend that in a night and get no pussy, but maybe a phone number. My mother always told me treat people how you want to be treated and I do not like being around cheap people. Life is to short.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1254737]Hey Sammy. The policy on escorting women out should be monger code 101. It protects the guy and the establishment. Its not cool having unescorted girls running around where you stay. Theft, violence, and all sorts of crimes can happen. I'm seeing some lazy guys (not you) lately who don't give a fuck about basic mongerers code, but when they wake up after being drugged with all their shit missing, then they will say" I didn't escort her out, the hotel shouldve known I was in trouble".[/QUOTE]I agree. If I stay at a place that doesn't require me to walk the girl out (New Garden) I just tell the person at the front desk or the watchyman not to give the girl her I'd back unless I walk her out or I call down and give them the okay. Most of these lazy mongers wouldn't last a day in Colombia or other places in south america not using common sense.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1252737]I am aware who Sammy Sosa is. He was the second cousin of one of my first chicas in the DR. In the real world where such minority sports are totally ignored that is probably his greater claim to fame.

I guess "name a famous Dominican" is this continent's equivalent of "name a famous Belgian" in Europe?[/QUOTE]Speaking as a fellow Brit which I suppose you are I don't see the need to put down Baseball in this way. Slagging off Belgium is another particularly curious British trait for some misguided reason. What do you mean name a famous Belgian? Here are a few off the top of my head, Hergé (writer of Tintin) Adolphe Sax (inventer of the saxophone, Mercator (Maps) , Eddie Mercx (5 times winner of the Tour de France) , Peter Paul Ruebens, Pieter Bruegel & René Magritte (all very famous painters) , Georges Simenon (probably the most published french language fiction author of all time) , Jean-Claude Van Damme, Audrey Hepburn (actors) , Jacques Rogge (IOC president) , Helmut Van Rompuy (EU president) , Justine Henin & Kim Clijsters (both former world number 1 tennis players). So please less of the cultural stereotyping.

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt;1254855]And she has never onced, asked for a single, peso, I told my boy Puta Romeo, I'm going to take care of her, when I get to Sosua, and I will bring her gifts,[/QUOTE]LOL. Why?
[QUOTE=Revere;1254868]I just bought my novia's brother a used playstation for $40 dollars. I tip the maid when I leave. I like being nice and giving gifts. You get a more dedicated women in my opinion. I know my novia does not make a lot at her job and lives in a three room house with her mother and step father and two little brothers and sister. Someone said do not bring any gifts to the family. I just cannot be that cheap.[/QUOTE]You do realize that you are causing more harm that help right? You put a playstation in their house so now the light bill will be much higher. And who will be responsible for paying that? If I have to pay someone and give them many gifts to be dedicated then that is the type of dedication that I could do without.

Maybe it is just me. Maybe the problem is that I have too many "novias" every damn where so for me it is neither feasible nor possible to bring gifts and give money to every body. Yesterday a fellow member was asking me about a particular woman, non-pro, and I just simply did not know the answer. This is what I told him, "I guess the ass looks good. You know how many chicks I have fucked since then in the last what 15 days? 4 alone the day after that. They all start to run together." So it's not really that I think you guys should not do what you do, but for me myself to try to do such a thing would really be ridiculous speaking from a volume standpoint. I would not have enough money to spread around to all of them and I would not have enough space to bring so many gifts. I think my equivalent is the same as I did with my novia in Salcedo. We went to buy fish, I paid for it (280 pesos if I remember correctly), we took it back to her house, the maid (or whoever that lady was) cooked it, we all ate, and everybody was happy. No BlackBerrys, no putting money in anybody's purse, no giving her daughter a brand new or used bicycle, none of that stuff.

And these are the types of messages I get after: 2/25/2012 6:50:53 PM j: te quiero y ahora mas que ante

[QUOTE=BondStyle;1254296]How much should one expect to spend on a chica? Did the cost rise? How much is too much or standard? Has anybody picked up a girl without having to pay the price? A girl who just wanted to hang out? I guess in Sosua that is laughable.[/QUOTE]As far as the girls in the clubs, bars, street, the tighter your game, the less you may have to pay, if at all. When I say game, I mean whatever it is you have going on that might attract women. Speaking spanish good will also greatly enhance your attractiveness, chemistry and negotiating power and overall experience.

If she just got her shipment from her Western Union novio or one of the New Yorkers has just left after showering her with money and gifts, they might be paying for your freebie or discount, if she is feeling you.

A lot of factors can come into play. If the girls weren't in Sosua, they most likely would be in the campo or at home drinking beers and screwing for next to nothing anyway so there are plenty of freaks around. There is probably a chulo smashing them for free as well. Throwing money around doesn't necessarily gain you respect since you are a gringo and its expected in many cases.

There are some pics floating around online and a friend even e-mailed them to me of a guy on bended knee recently proposing, ring and all, to Daniella in Clasicos. She's a cute girl, but it just goes to show that some dudes can get caught out there. Pussy is like a drug so have a great time and keep it in perspective. Whatever you want to spend, you can find some type of fun for that price. Also, day game is a good option sometimes if you're price conscious, as opposed to trying to do things in prime time, or the wee hours can sometimes present bargains. You'll get a better feel for it when you touch ground and start talking to the girls.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1254894]At least that's what you may like to think anyway, . From what I have heard most of the chicas there start out pretty young, so by the time you get to her at "semi-pro" status she may have already surpassed the 100 dick threshold and may just be throttling back, LOL!

The truth is, if you are not living there 24/7, 365 days a year, there is absolutely no way of telling what a chica is up to when you are not there. Not all chicas engage in sex only for money. Women also have their (local Dominican) guys that can fuck for free due to mutual attraction (classmates, co-workers, cousins, etc.). It's as easy as her making the phone call.

Also, it only takes one guy with AIDS to infect a chica with his disease. Doesn't matter if she is high-mileage or a non-pro.

At least in Sosua you know exactly what you are getting into. This guy sums it up best:

REBOOT![/QUOTE]Some Sosua guys are just plain delusional, to hang onto to the belief that Sosua is the best monger spot in DR. For guys who have absolutely no game, thank god there is a Sosua, for them. Many Sosua chicas live in and around Sosua, don't go to university and don't have a normal job. They spend a good percentage of their waking hours in the p4p game. I did trips to Sosua and have absolutely zero desire to revisit sosua. I remember taking a chica out of classicos early for a short time session, I popped a load in her mouth, and within 15 minutes of me popping a load in her mouth, she was back at classicos trolling, looking all sweet and innocent, with some of my sperm still swimming around in her mouth, to hook up with her next client. Sosua is a small town with 90% pros. When I used to go to Sosua over 3 years ago, the better looking chicas were asking for and getting $100US. I would imagine the same is happening now, the better looking chicas in sosua could be getting $100 or more. Passions in Sosua is probably over $100 if you take a chica out early. 1000 or 1500 pesos Sosua chicas could be doing multiple guys per day.

Sosua has no great hotels, no great casinos, the beach has rocks and sea urchins. The most obnoxious people I have ever come across while in the DR have been in Sosua, from wannabe tough guy foreign mongers in classicos, to obnoxious Dominicans, to obnoxious old female foreign cougars, to rip off thieving sosua chicas, all I have encountered in Sosua.

I date police officers and dentists and doctors in santo domingo. Population of Santo Domingo is 100 times greater than Sosua. Simple logic, the place with the greater population has more chicas. For the mongers who want low cost chicas, recently Mr Go Go was quoted 600 pesos by a freelancer in Santo Domingo. GBP two chicas for 1500 pesos (750 pesos per chica) , place opens at 2pm, you won't get robbed there. If you want higher end above average looking chicas, santo domingo has more. No matter what facts are presented or logic, some Sosua mongers will hold to the delusion that Sosua is the be all, end all, the nirvana, the Shangri-la of mongering in DR.

Normal chicas outside of sosua have jobs where they work 8-10 hours per day, sometimes on Saturdays and they may also go to university at night. It doesn't give them much free time to go out and suck multiple dicks per day, like some Sosua chicas.

One Dominican GF I had, lives outside santo domingo. If and when I wanted, I could ask her to put a webcam on at her office and see her in her office, where she works a normal job. When she gets home from work, I can ask her to put the webcam on and watch her on webcam until she falls asleep, around 10pm or 11pm (her day starts at 6am). I have met her family and friends. Her pussy is as tight as a clam-shell (no exaggeration) and she has no children, slim and pretty. I am not a paranoid loser, so I don't call her 24/7 to see where she is or ask what she is doing, but I could and she would pick up the phone and put on her webcam. If she wants to go out and fuck some other guy, I have no control over her behavior, she is not a slave, not a zombie, not an automaton (she has free will) , I have a degree of trust with her and as I previously mentioned I could talk to her or see her, almost 24/7 if I wanted, so it is highly improbable that she is fucking someone else). Some guys on this site believe all DR chicas are the same and it seems to mostly come from guys who basically only know Sosua and Puerta Plata.

Seems to me some guys on this site only have experience with Sosua pros and believe all Dominican woman are like the Sosua pros. Some guys are afraid to venture out of Sosua and see something different in DR.

Better for me and better for other guys who don't monger in Sosua, if all Sosua mongers stayed in Sosua and out of other areas of the DR, however to me, this forum should be about posting honest information.

One aids infected Sosua monger sport fucking multiple 1000-1500 sosua pros, could potentially spread the disease to multiple chicas. I don't need 100% surety in my life, but I will hedge my bets or try to better my odds of not catching a disease by staying away from high mileage pros. The more dicks a chica has experienced the odds increase that she will encounter an infected one (simple logic).

I am from New York City (or as one ISG member who seems to enjoy a Sosua hard core, crazy, high mileage pro, calls it New York Shitty and the ISG member who spent time in a Dominican jail after a car accident, wrote everyone from new york is a piece of sh_t) , and in New York City there are at least a million Haitians and Dominicans, insult New York and you insult some Haitians and some Dominicans.

I hear you player, but I will not get into an argument with you. To each his own. My thing is that we all live differently. For you banging 15 girls is what you want to do. For me, I want to bang only a 10s with no babies. Your not wrong and neither am I. What the problem is when we try to tell someone to live our way. I do not have time and do not care to tell someone to live my way. Also, great comment about the electric bill going up because of the play station but you did not ask the question did he already have one that was not working as well anymore. The answer is yes it did not work well so I got him another one. I do not think the electric will go up since he already had a playstation in fact it might go down because the other one was not working well and was very slow. Again, I have done well in my life, but I will not throw money in the air in clubs I just spend my money the way I want too. I could send you some messages from girls too that love me, but I do not need to validate my points. Just not me. Again, I will not put people down on this board I am to confident in me to worry about anybody but myself. I am just happy people can get on a plane and have fun.

QUOTE=Revere; 1254868]I just bought my novia's brother a used playstation for $40 dollars. I tip the maid when I leave. I like being nice and giving gifts. You get a more dedicated women in my opinion. I know my novia does not make a lot at her job and lives in a three room house with her mother and step father and two little brothers and sister. Someone said do not bring any gifts to the family. I just cannot be that cheap. I bang a chick all week like 20 times and I give her like $200. 00 dollars and a couple gifts. I can go to a club in new York and spend that in a night and get no pussy, but maybe a phone number. My mother always told me treat people how you want to be treated and I do not like being around cheap people. Life is to short.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1254896]LOL. Why?

You do realize that you are causing more harm that help right? You put a playstation in their house so now the light bill will be much higher. And who will be responsible for paying that? If I have to pay someone and give them many gifts to be dedicated then that is the type of dedication that I could do without.

Maybe it is just me. Maybe the problem is that I have too many "novias" every damn where so for me it is neither feasible nor possible to bring gifts and give money to every body. Yesterday a fellow member was asking me about a particular woman, non-pro, and I just simply did not know the answer. This is what I told him,"I guess the ass looks good. You know how many chicks I have fucked since then in the last what 15 days? 4 alone the day after that. They all start to run together." So it's not really that I think you guys should not do what you do, but for me myself to try to do such a thing would really be ridiculous speaking from a volume standpoint. I would not have enough money to spread around to all of them and I would not have enough space to bring so many gifts. I think my equivalent is the same as I did with my novia in Salcedo. We went to buy fish, I paid for it (280 pesos if I remember correctly) , we took it back to her house, the maid (or whoever that lady was) cooked it, we all ate, and everybody was happy. No BlackBerrys, no putting money in anybody's purse, no giving her daughter a brand new or used bicycle, none of that stuff.

And these are the types of messages I get after: 2/25/2012 6:50:53 PM j: te quiero why ahora mas que ante[/QUOTE]

in the months i have been a member here, i have noticed a couple of things that have made me pause at times.

1) i notice there are a variety of men here. some go for quality while some "shoot"for quantity, some relish calling the women :bitches and hoes and so forth. though i wonder how they would react if others were to call them "johns" in equally spiteful manner.

2) there seems to a territorial game. a group supporting one geography vs. another defending some other.

3) the eternal discussion about non, semi and full.pro and if the price is right.

i am not going to add any valuable insights into any of these nor would this discussion cease after this mail. i only wonder why we would not accept the other the way he is (wart and all) given that i am not so pristine to begin with and more importantly, why we fail to treat the women with some modicum of respect. if it were not for them, all around the world, the jails will be full of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord127][CodeWord127][/url] and the houses full of children conceived in "duress". the "bitches and hoes" have a significant social contribution. but for which my mom may not have been what she is. a regular woman.

[quote=tempoecorto; 1254969]in the months i have been a member here, i have noticed a couple of things that have made me pause at times.

1) i notice there are a variety of men here. some go for quality while some "shoot"for quantity, some relish calling the women :bitches and hoes and so forth. though i wonder how they would react if others were to call them "johns" in equally spiteful manner.

2) there seems to a territorial game. a group supporting one geography vs. another defending some other.

3) the eternal discussion about non, semi and full. pro and if the price is right.

p.

i am not going to add any valuable insights into any of these nor would this discussion cease after this mail. i only wonder why we would not accept the other the way he is (wart and all) given that i am not so pristine to begin with and more importantly, why we fail to treat the women with some modicum of respect. if it were not for them, all around the world, the jails will be full of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord127][CodeWord127][/url] and the houses full of children conceived in "duress". the "bitches and hoes" have a significant social contribution. but for which my mom may not have been what she is. a regular woman.[/quote]i understand that you just want to promote discussions. but you are going about it in a shallow way. you say" i'm not going to add any valuable insight". why not say what's on your mind and ride with it, instead of throwing a teaser out?

Thanks for the info. The prices are okay compared to what a lady of the night would asked for back home. By the way, I just saw a funny short documentary on youtube regarding women getting in on the fun.

Doc: "Rent A Dread, LINK International Productions"

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtU3m2M1Ivs[/url]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1254896]You do realize that you are causing more harm that help right? You put a playstation in their house so now the light bill will be much higher. And who will be responsible for paying that? If I have to pay someone and give them many gifts to be dedicated then that is the type of dedication that I could do without.

There is no way that the light bill will go up due to a playstation in a house, the light bill will only go up if have a fridge, freezer, air condition. In your house, by the way keep in mind that 50% of dominicans don't pay for electricity at all, most of my neighbours some illegal connections so that they have electricity, but don't have to pay for it.

[url]http://www.listin.com.do/economia-y-negocios/2010/6/14/146165/Casi-el-50-por-ciento-de-los-usuarios-no-paga-el-servicio-de-energia[/url]

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1254929]Some Sosua guys are just plain delusional, to hang onto to the belief that Sosua is the best monger spot in DR.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Jaosousa;1254414]Have fun wherever you monger.[/QUOTE]Make up your mind amigo.

Just as an aside: why is it okay for you to come and shit all over the Sosua forum, but then scream "foul" when Frannie had something to say (which was in no way as viriolic) about Santo Domingo? If you remember it was not too long ago that SD was the most currupt place on earth (according to you) when you almost ran over that cop who was trying to chase you down on foot for a bribe; and the most racist (when your hotel wanted $100 for you to take the dark-skinned chica up to your room). You even threatened to never return to the DR again because of it.

The only difference here is that I never see anyone from the Sosua forum just randomly show up one day and start shitting all over the Santo Domingo forum and its mongers for not coming to Sosua. If someone like BoriquaOnline (who has always and only gone to SD) comes to Sosua for the first time and loves it, then that's really all that matters.

It's like you said: have fun wherever you monger.

[QUOTE=Berthold;1255031]There is no way that the light bill will go up due to a playstation in a house, the light bill will only go up if have a fridge, freezer, air condition. In your house, by the way keep in mind that 50% of dominicans don't pay for electricity at all, most of my neighbours some illegal connections so that they have electricity, but don't have to pay for it.[/QUOTE]Yeah. That is why that was supposed to be considered a joke.

i do not want to keep talking about temps point, but a lot of these women are good girls that grew up in fucked up situations. this not the united states where hard work can get you out of a bad situation. men there beat there women all the time. i had a girl that i liked was not my novia but i saw her and she had a black eye. i cannot save her, but i am not going to treat her like a ***** either. now, do not get me wrong some of those girls are sharks and will steal and lie to you all day long, but i will not hang with them. i do not want to have to take a quick shower because i know i have a shark in the room. i just hope that if we meet a good girl who are decent we are man enough to have a heart and show them respect. i am not preaching just hoping that you do the right thing when you have the chance too.

[quote=tempoecorto; 1254969]in the months i have been a member here, i have noticed a couple of things that have made me pause at times.

1) i notice there are a variety of men here. some go for quality while some "shoot"for quantity, some relish calling the women :bitches and hoes and so forth. though i wonder how they would react if others were to call them "johns" in equally spiteful manner.

2) there seems to a territorial game. a group supporting one geography vs. another defending some other.

3) the eternal discussion about non, semi and full. pro and if the price is right.

i am not going to add any valuable insights into any of these nor would this discussion cease after this mail. i only wonder why we would not accept the other the way he is (wart and all) given that i am not so pristine to begin with and more importantly, why we fail to treat the women with some modicum of respect. if it were not for them, all around the world, the jails will be full of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord127][CodeWord127][/url] and the houses full of children conceived in "duress". the "bitches and hoes" have a significant social contribution. but for which my mom may not have been what she is. a regular woman.[/quote]

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1255056]Make up your mind amigo.[/QUOTE]I responded in the Santo Domingo thread.

[QUOTE=Revere;1255087]I do not want to keep talking about Temps point, but a lot of these women are good girls that grew up in fucked up situations. This not the united states where hard work can get you out of a bad situation. Men there beat there women all the time. I had a girl that I liked was not my novia but I saw her and she had a black eye. I cannot save her, but I am not going to treat her like a ***** either. Now, do not get me wrong some of those girls are sharks and will steal and lie to you all day long, but I will not hang with them. I do not want to have to take a quick shower because I know I have a shark in the room. I just hope that if we meet a good girl who are decent we are man enough to have a heart and show them respect. I am not preaching just hoping that you do the right thing when you have the chance too.[/QUOTE]I guess they are like other girls. There are some really nice ones. There are some not so nice ones. There are some very bad ones.

[quote=mr gogo;1254737]hey sammy. the policy on escorting women out should be monger code 101. it protects the guy and the establishment. its not cool having unescorted girls running around where you stay. theft, violence, and all sorts of crimes can happen. i'm seeing some lazy guys (not you) lately who don't give a fuck about basic mongerers code, but when they wake up after being drugged with all their shit missing, then they will say" i didn't escort her out, the hotel shouldve known i was in trouble".[/quote]ooops! i thought this forum was monger code 101,

for my defense, i read the entire thread (yes, including the archived one). highly recommended for any newbie like me. after all, if you are going to do it, you might as well do it right.

will escort out in the future. i am not the kind to ignore advices from more experienced peers. especially if they are celebrities.

looks like i'll be back in may in sosua. going to give me time to read your thread too.

[quote=sammy sosa; 1255271]ooops! i thought this forum was monger code 101,

for my defense, i read the entire thread (yes, including the archived one). highly recommended for any newbie like me. after all, if you are going to do it, you might as well do it right.

will escort out in the future. i am not the kind to ignore advices from more experienced peers. especially if they are celebrities.

looks like i'll be back in may in sosua. going to give me time to read your thread too.[/quote]thanks, but i'm still learning also. its just that when i travel i follow all basic safety rules. mani was correct that in colombia one slip and you've got a problem. we tend to relax and take our safety for granted in sosua. if you don't walk the girl out atleast call the desk to say" everything is good".

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1254929]Sosua has no great hotels, no great casinos, the beach has rocks and sea urchins. The most obnoxious people I have ever come across while in the DR have been in Sosua, from wannabe tough guy foreign mongers in classicos, to obnoxious Dominicans, to obnoxious old female foreign cougars, to rip off thieving sosua chicas, all I have encountered in Sosua.[/QUOTE]Jao, this is not the case anymore. Agreed 3 or more years ago this was so true. TL and NG are just fine and more than adequate for mongering. I had a hard time staying at Europa back in the day with the mosquitos and power issues and poor bathtub drains (which as I read is still the case with Sosua Bay, its a no no for me).

Also the 'old female foreign cougars' and 'theiving pickpocket chicas' are all departed.

Sosua is not all hardocore putas, there are numerous visiting out of town chicas who could easily classify as semi pro's. So many of them, I have never seen again, nor seen in any forum, nor been able to reach thru phone, or even if reached thru phone they refused or failed to show up at Sosua.

I did not make it my last planned trip to SD, had to cancel at the last minute, surely will make it next time, so I can experience all that you say. But still I strongly feel it will not beat the Sosua experience for me," I LOVE SOSUA". (borrowing from ilovesosua. Com).

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1254737]Hey Sammy. The policy on escorting women out should be monger code 101. It protects the guy and the establishment. Its not cool having unescorted girls running around where you stay. Theft, violence, and all sorts of crimes can happen. I'm seeing some lazy guys (not you) lately who don't give a fuck about basic mongerers code, but when they wake up after being drugged with all their shit missing, then they will say" I didn't escort her out, the hotel shouldve known I was in trouble".[/QUOTE]I never thought about the being drugged part, I did not even get it when I first read your post. Does it or has it ever happened? Seems like a far out thought, like the "poison the monger and take all his money plot" from Boricua's post. If I recall right, TL had this escort out policy when they first opened but have done away with it. There must be a reason TL and NG don't do it anymore. And my guess is that those kind of incidents just don't happen in Sosua, (and I don't want to be the first victim either). But still, there are many early bird chicas that are up and ready to leave when you are still clearly exhausted from partying all night, C'mon give the monger a break.

Anyways, thanks for the Mongering 101 lesson, Mr Gogo. Also to add to the contrary, realize it does not help anyone if the hotel doesn't enforce this policy, even if some mongers voluntarily do it.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1254511]It just depends what you want to pay and what your negotiating skills are like. I was in Sosua the other day and I wasn't really looking for a girl per se (just browsing) , but I was accosted by an extraordinarily attractive (to me) girl whom I had never seen before. She asked me to spend some time with her and I told her that she was gorgeous, but I had very little money on me. She asked how much I had. I said 1000 pesos. She said "I'll take your 1000 pesos", so off we went.

She seemed rather inexperienced with regards to the sexual part of the transaction, but willing to please.

If it is important to you not to pay much for sex, then you can certainly get laid for as little as 1000 pesos, (or less actually) , but realistically if you are new to the scene and not prepared to walk if your bid is not accepted, then anything from 1200 up to 2000 pesos is not really unreasonable. If you are going to Sosua for the first time for a few days sex vacation, I would budget plenty of money and not work yourself into too much of a sweat over prices. On the other hand you should know enough to recognize that if a girl is asking for 3000 pesos and up, then you probably don't have to pay that much. These girls are not licensed professionals. They will ask for what they think they can get, or sometimes they will ask for more money if they don't really want to go with you, and hope to put you off. In my opinion it is always better to go for the girl who you feel you have good chemistry with, rather than just head for the best looking girl prepared to outbid all competition as this strategy will not necessarily pay off with a better sexual experience.

What is the right price? The right price is the price that both parties voluntarily agree to.

You are not likely to find Dominican women in Sosua looking for recreational sex with foreigners without money changing hands. Yes, you can get sex without paying if the girl thinks you are a good longer term relationship prospect, though in the long run this will almost certainly cost more than paying for instasex.[/QUOTE]Frannie,

Great post! I am so excited about my first visit in two weeks. I am going down with a 10+ visits to Sosua friend, so feel I got the good travel guide. Not been in this type mongering situation since Cuba about 10 years ago (been to Medellin twice in last 9 months and heading for it again a few times this year, but Colombia is no DR and vice versa. Not going there with that debate right now). Agree with you on the chemistry and pricing. Rather take a gal who has good attitude and have fun out in the bar with = good time in bedroom. I have 5 days to figure it out!

Thanks! TNF

[quote=tempoecorto; 1254969]in the months i have been a member here, i have noticed a couple of things that have made me pause at times.

1) i notice there are a variety of men here. some go for quality while some "shoot"for quantity, some relish calling the women :bitches and hoes and so forth. though i wonder how they would react if others were to call them "johns" in equally spiteful manner.

2) there seems to a territorial game. a group supporting one geography vs. another defending some other.

3) the eternal discussion about non, semi and full. pro and if the price is right.

i am not going to add any valuable insights into any of these nor would this discussion cease after this mail. i only wonder why we would not accept the other the way he is (wart and all) given that i am not so pristine to begin with and more importantly, why we fail to treat the women with some modicum of respect. if it were not for them, all around the world, the jails will be full of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord127][CodeWord127][/url] and the houses full of children conceived in "duress". the "bitches and hoes" have a significant social contribution. but for which my mom may not have been what she is. a regular woman.[/quote]quiet a thoughtful post "short time" (tempo corto) , finally looked it up. acceptance as you easily said, is what i am all about too, everyone is different. we are all imperfect, very true. as long as one is not crossing legal borders (like the guy asking about 17 yr old). i agree with not calling the women "bitches and hoes", though some of them actually are. i am talking about the thieving and deceitful ones, that don't keep their word. you can also look at it in a complimentary sense, like "the b itch is hot".

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1254929]I am from New York City or as one ISG member who seems to enjoy a Sosua hard core, crazy, high mileage pro, calls it New York Shitty.[/QUOTE]That would be me, and BTW, thanks for the compliment. I actually learned that term by two ISG members that live there and they can't wait to escape the place to have real fun. Personally, I've been there three times and have yet to find the fascination of the place. The city is stressful, busy, and driving there is not an option; JMHO of course. Everyone I met from there during my long military career always boosted,"I'm from New York City!" Like it makes a real difference in life. I was born and raised in an inner city in Miami, does in matter, fuck no. It only matters what you do in life, but not where in the hell you lived throughout your life.

I now live in San Diego, one of the most laid back cities in America. And one of the nicest places to live as well. I've talked to guys in Sosua and throughout the world and they do not want to end their vacation and return to Philly or the blessed NYC. They are disappointed to get on a plane to go home, but yet, I'm ready to return home.

After spending 27 years in the military, and romping my ass threw 40+ countries, and exploring 49 of the 50 states (I figured SD was just as good as ND) , I think, maybe only think, that I have some clue to what's going on in life; but maybe not. I like Sosua for the same reasons I like Pattaya and Tijuana. It is all about one-stop shopping; no bullshit, just shopping. And I guess in your eyes there is something wrong with that? I longer give a shit about relationships, but I guess you do; no worries.

My Spanish sucks, but I am working on it. Jaosousa, if I do ever get proficient in Spanish in years to come; hopefully I will be able to hold a candle to your superior self!

[QUOTE=Kman1; 1255319]I never thought about the being drugged part, I did not even get it when I first read your post. Does it or has it ever happened? Seems like a far out thought, like the "poison the monger and take all his money plot" from Boricua's post. If I recall right, TL had this escort out policy when they first opened but have done away with it. There must be a reason TL and NG don't do it anymore. And my guess is that those kind of incidents just don't happen in Sosua, (and I don't want to be the first victim either). But still, there are many early bird chicas that are up and ready to leave when you are still clearly exhausted from partying all night, C'mon give the monger a break.

Anyways, thanks for the Mongering 101 lesson, Mr Gogo. Also to add to the contrary, realize it does not help anyone if the hotel doesn't enforce this policy, even if some mongers voluntarily do it.[/QUOTE]You have to hurry up and get there so you can posts some of those great pictures.

The report BO posted about girls talking about poisoning has credit with me for several reasons. The main one being that they didn't think he understood Spanish, so they felt free to tell secrets. That was a very telling post that should raise a flag to all mongerers. I always make a girl take a shower first, know why? Because I heard of girls spiking their titties. A guy is in such a rush to fuck and suck that he never knew what happened until he wakes up. Has this ever happened to me? No. Do I know anyone thats its happened to? No. Would I be a fool to think it never will? Yes.

Any responsible monger would always make sure his brothers maintain awareness. Just because the hotel doesn't enforce this policy doesn't mean we shouldn't either. We are our own brothers keeper here. If a brother is too exhausted from partying all night to atleast escort a girl out of our "safe zone", then maybe we are setting ourselves up.

As far as the Sosua girls now not being hardcore, I don't agree. Most of those weekend girls from out of town are Santo Domingo or Santiago weekend hustlers. They usually work in teams. They usually go for the quick money fucks. Before you had that newbie who was from Mantellano or Puerto Plata who wanted to meet a nice guy and spend as much of his vacation with him as possible. They would invite you to their home for a home cooked meal, they would get excited about an afternoon date to Cabarete, they would go to the beach (Playa Grande not Sousa) with their weekend boyfriend, they would cry when you departure day arrived. Shit, nowadays these girls don't even want a repeat date, its on to the next guy. Thats pretty hardcore to me.

But lets not let the mongerer off the hook. I remember a few years ago when breakfast at NG was full of couples, now its just guys boasting. I remember before seeing guys walking around holding girls hands. I remember when there were so many girls during the day that guys didn't go out at night for girls. Before guys took their girlfriends to Classicos, now Classicos is for meeting a girl for an hour fuck. Before mongeres developed such a comfort zone that they spent freely and walked around with a lot of money, hence the few pick pockets.

Now the guys are just as hardcore as the girls.

[QUOTE=Kman1;1255327]Quiet a thoughtful post "short time" (tempo corto) , finally looked it up. Acceptance as you easily said, is what I am all about too, everyone is different. We are all imperfect, very true. As long as one is not crossing legal borders (like the guy asking about 17 yr old). I agree with not calling the women "bitches and hoes", though some of them actually are. I am talking about the thieving and deceitful ones, that don't keep their word. You can also look at it in a complimentary sense, like "the b itch is hot".[/QUOTE]My only point was that if there are "bitches and hoes" among women, and I completely agree there are, aren't there similar types among the males (I would not know the apt words to describe) as well? It is all about what the statisticians call a normal distribution.

On the legality of it, again, no doubt, but hopefully we are mostly grown ups here with a sense of what is and what is not right. I am impressed (and envious) by the likes of Tom Jackin, who I learned today has traversed practically one third the earth. If that does not teach a thing or two, what would?

I met people who can speak to me about Hobbes, Locke and Roussau - young women studying law and medicine - smart minds....Personally, I am also bent towards sex with soul and so yes, just plain romping is not my thing -like some here and unlike some here...but to each his own.

This forum, for me, is a place to learn from others' knowledge (and there are plenty of such helpful people here - I am always impressed by Jao's going out the way, and I read it as being kind and generous if you will, to provide information which as a selfish sob, I would not do but I also cannot figure out his SD state of mind, after all others have a right to think differently - as they say in Laissez-Faire) and mistakes and who knows even meet a few like minded people. Personally, I am not here to prove anything or to shoot anyone down. I chose my pen name to mean my time is "running out" in that the count-down has begun. LOL.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1255401]......Now the guys are just as hardcore as the girls.[/QUOTE]That was a beautiful and moving account of "the way we were". Thanks so much Gogo for being a fine raconteur of history.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1255401]As far as the Sosua girls now not being hardcore, I don't agree. Most of those weekend girls from out of town are Santo Domingo or Santiago weekend hustlers. They usually work in teams. They usually go for the quick money fucks. Before you had that newbie who was from Mantellano or Puerto Plata who wanted to meet a nice guy and spend as much of his vacation with him as possible. They would invite you to their home for a home cooked meal, they would get excited about an afternoon date to Cabarete, they would go to the beach (Playa Grande not Sousa) with their weekend boyfriend, they would cry when you departure day arrived. Shit, nowadays these girls don't even want a repeat date, its on to the next guy. Thats pretty hardcore to me.

But lets not let the mongerer off the hook. I remember a few years ago when breakfast at NG was full of couples, now its just guys boasting. I remember before seeing guys walking around holding girls hands. I remember when there were so many girls during the day that guys didn't go out at night for girls. Before guys took their girlfriends to Classicos, now Classicos is for meeting a girl for an hour fuck. Before mongeres developed such a comfort zone that they spent freely and walked around with a lot of money, hence the few pick pockets.

Now the guys are just as hardcore as the girls.[/QUOTE]This "transformation" was probably in progress by the time I became aware of and started to visit Sosua. But I think if people look at Sosua as nothing more than "Bangkok West" then they will be more comfortable with what to expect and what they are getting into. You would definitely not to be holding hands and acting as a couple with any pro you ran into in the Red Light Districts of Bangkok or Pattaya; and honestly I would feel uncomfortable doing that with pros I meet in Sosua (I will hold her hand as we navigate through the sidewalk crowds on the way back to my room though).

I've always assumed that if I wanted the true girlfriend experience (dinner dates, movies, picnic at the park / beach, etc.) I could always (eventually) go elsewhere on the island. But that would require you to commit to just one female for the most part, which is pretty hard to do in Sosua since there are many chicas to choose from in such a small setting. There is just too much "temptation" roaming around day and night, LOL. And this was the first impression I got of Sosua upon my first visit (to Classicos via Blackbeard's) : that this is a place where guys come to bang multiple women with no strings attached; and that chicas come to make as much money as they can; turning as many tricks as they can before Sunday rolls around and they roll out of town. I probably would have never gotten that impression if only "some" of the chicas in Classico's were pros sprinkled in with regular non-pros; but "ALL" of the chicas up in there were pros, lol!

I'll admit that I am not a "one girl's guy" and at first I thought it had something to do with my (young) age. But seeing as though Tomjackin and Manizales are older than me and still have the same mindset, I think Sosua attracts people of our thinking (when it comes to pros):

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1255329]
I like Sosua for the same reasons I like Pattaya and Tijuana. It is all about one-stop shopping; no bullshit, just shopping...I longer give a shit about relationships...[/QUOTE]

I guess this would be our anthem:

[i]"I'm not a one girl's guy

And they know it, when it comes to love I don't lie

And the girls respect me for it

Ain't going to say my nose can't be open

But right now it's just too many fine ladies out there

To choose one from..."[/i]

[b]Girls, Girls, Girls pt. 2 (remix). Jay Z[/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M25lnBq4A0[/url]

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1255559]This "transformation" was probably in progress by the time I became aware of and started to visit Sosua. But I think if people look at Sosua as nothing more than "Bangkok West" then they will be more comfortable with what to expect and what they are getting into. You would definitely not to be holding hands and acting as a couple with any pro you ran into in the Red Light Districts of Bangkok or Pattaya; and honestly I would feel uncomfortable doing that with pros I meet in Sosua (I will hold her hand as we navigate through the sidewalk crowds on the way back to my room though).[/QUOTE]What you say is quite understandable and I would agree with most of it. However you do see quite a lot of couples walking around holding hands, arm in arm, etc. Probably some of them are expatriates who live in or around Sosua and have regular girl friends. It seems to be a usual pattern that I have observed over some years that guys who go to live in the area eventually hook up with some favorita and become more-or-less sexually monogamous, at least to the extent that they would not be seen holding hands with another in the street. But some of them must be visitors / vacationers, so presumably it is still possible to hook up in some manner if that is what you want. If you are young and hang with a particular group, you might not notice these guys, many of whom are older and / or European, if they fly under your radar, but if you look there are plenty of them in the various restaurants around the town at breakfast or dinner time dining with their Dominican paramours.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1255329]My Spanish sucks, but I am working on it. Jaosousa, if I do ever get proficient in Spanish in years to come; hopefully I will be able to hold a candle to your superior self![/QUOTE]Thanks for the compliment, so nice of you.

My father was in the US Military and always told me when the Navy guys showed up in some town in Korea, the p4p prices always went up. How long does it take to travel from San Diego to Puerto Plata? I used to live in San Diego, maybe you enjoy the Hillcrest neighborhood (I had Thai friends who used to work in a good Thai restaurant there. Or maybe you live in El Cajon). You grew up in Miami and live near Mexico, I am sure your Spanish must be good.

I lived in New York City for over 40 years and met people from all over the world, who live in New York City. I know Jews, Muslims, people from different African tribes, Jamaicans, Colombians, Italians, Greeks, Chinese, Koreans and others in New York City.

I haven't been in Sosua in years, another ISG member wrote that my Sosua information was dated, so maybe you can give me some up to date info. I believe in one of your posts you stated that you had a session with the well known Patricia. What was the cost of that session? One pop or multiple pops? Bareback? Did she allow photos? I have read on this forum from a guy who has been to Sosua numerous times, that the rumor is that Patricia may have aids (she seems to have several religious themed tattoos, so maybe she is preparing for the afterlife). You having been in the US Military you can get free medical treatment through the Veterans Affairs Department, paid for by the US Government, so if you happen to get an illness in Sosua, you can get free medical treatment. I don't have free medical treatment, so I have to be more careful where I dip my dick. You are much more fortunate than me in that regard.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1255559]I'll admit that I am not a "one girl's guy" and at first I thought it had something to do with my (young) age. But seeing as though Tomjackin and Manizales are older than me and still have the same mindset, I think Sosua attracts people of our thinking (when it comes to pros):[/QUOTE]Interesting summary / raison the / etre of Sosua! I think that is quite the beauty of this forum. That there are different people with different inclinations.

On the matter of Bangkok as mentioned by you, I do think, taking a leaf out of Frannie's thought, that I noted two groups of people in Bangkok, in KL, Singapore and in Jakarta. The tourists who are "go in and out" crowd looking for numbers and then the expats who after a while hang out with someone local so your modus operandi is a good fit.

In fact, during my trip to Sosua, I met a Canadian woman with her two children at the upscale Bar Bologna who had just moved down there. And then I met a German older man with a young local woman and a little baby, eating at the same place. Vive la difference!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1255559]This "transformation" was probably in progress by the time I became aware of and started to visit Sosua. But I think if people look at Sosua as nothing more than "Bangkok West" then they will be more comfortable with what to expect and what they are getting into. You would definitely not to be holding hands and acting as a couple with any pro you ran into in the Red Light Districts of Bangkok or Pattaya; and honestly I would feel uncomfortable doing that with pros I meet in Sosua (I will hold her hand as we navigate through the sidewalk crowds on the way back to my room though).[/QUOTE]All I see here in Pattaya is farang holding hands and hugged up with their hookers. They even do the same with the ladyboys and all I can do is Shake My Damn Head. The night before last in the Philippines I took a girl and she tried to hold my hand walking down the street. I said there'll be none of that babe. Granted, if you are spending the money then you should make it the kind of experience you want. I'm just not personally keen on being romantic with the paid help.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1255559]I've always assumed that if I wanted the true girlfriend experience (dinner dates, movies, picnic at the park / beach, etc.) I could always (eventually) go elsewhere on the island. But that would require you to commit to just one female for the most part, which is pretty hard to do in Sosua since there are many chicas to choose from in such a small setting. There is just too much "temptation" roaming around day and night, LOL. And this was the first impression I got of Sosua upon my first visit (to Classicos via Blackbeard's) : that this is a place where guys come to bang multiple women with no strings attached;[/QUOTE]While I do enjoy a GFE, if I really wanted one then I would just get a girlfriend. It's starting to look like girlfriends are a thing of the past in DR. Most chicas are requiring money and gifts now in exchange for their companionship. And if I wanted to do that then I would just assume pay a hooker.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1255559]I'll admit that I am not a "one girl's guy" and at first I thought it had something to do with my (young) age. But seeing as though Tomjackin and Manizales are older than me and still have the same mindset, I think Sosua attracts people of our thinking (when it comes to pros):[/QUOTE]I second the notion. Some people are addicted to crack, some to alcohol, some to gambling, some to church; I just happen to be addicted to women. Is there a rehab for that or should I even want to go to one?

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1255329]That would be me, and BTW, thanks for the compliment. I actually learned that term by two ISG members that live there and they can't wait to escape the place to have real fun. Personally, I've been there three times and have yet to find the fascination of the place. The city is stressful, busy, and driving there is not an option; JMHO of course. Everyone I met from there during my long military career always boosted,"I'm from New York City!" Like it makes a real difference in life. I was born and raised in an inner city in Miami, does in matter, fuck no. It only matters what you do in life, but not where in the hell you lived throughout your life.

I now live in San Diego, one of the most laid back cities in America. And one of the nicest places to live as well. I've talked to guys in Sosua and throughout the world and they do not want to end their vacation and return to Philly or the blessed NYC. They are disappointed to get on a plane to go home, but yet, I'm ready to return home.

After spending 27 years in the military, and romping my ass threw 40+ countries, and exploring 49 of the 50 states (I figured SD was just as good as ND) , I think, maybe only think, that I have some clue to what's going on in life; but maybe not. I like Sosua for the same reasons I like Pattaya and Tijuana. It is all about one-stop shopping; no bullshit, just shopping. And I guess in your eyes there is something wrong with that? I longer give a shit about relationships, but I guess you do; no worries.

My Spanish sucks, but I am working on it. Jaosousa, if I do ever get proficient in Spanish in years to come; hopefully I will be able to hold a candle to your superior self![/QUOTE][QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca;1253050]Thanks for the reply Mr. ET, from what I understand the actual owner of SBY is the owner of Classicos, and he wants to get rid of Glenys. Funny thing, her and her boss were not as visible on the property none of the 6 days this trip, but on my two other stays you always see them. One of the female employees verbally compared Glenys to a dog. Then her boss parks his BMW 8 cylinder up front at guess drop off. I think there is hostility between the administration and the staff. They are thinking the owner will change the administration soon, and Glenys will be gone[/QUOTE]San Diego has a large US military presence. In the nearby City of Coronado, I believe the navy seals team train (nearby the hotel coronado where parts of "Some like it Hot" was filmed with marilyn monroe). Big Naval Base in San Diego and just north is Camp Pendleton Marine Base (near San Onofre Nuclear power plant which looks like two tits with pointy nipples) and nearby is Miramar Air Station. Maybe you have friends in the US Military and maybe you tell them how great your trips to Sosua are. I would guess you probably tell your US Military friends that a US Army veteran who served in Vietnam was murdered in his home in Sosua. Seems no one was ever convicted for that crime. The murdered US Army veteran was Art Tarlow, who had a legal dispute with the guy from Italy who owns the Sosua Bay Hotel, Victorian House, new Casino in Sosua, Merengue Bar, Classicos and After One.

I don't know what year you started going to Sosua. I made my first trip to Sosua somewhere around 2003. I stayed at the Sosua Bay Hotel with my father (US Army Veteran). I got to know one worker at the Sosua Bay Hotel and learned that the guy from Italy who owned the hotel could not get along with some of his own family (brothers) and the family owned hotels in Sosua and Cabarete had to be split up. There are stories how at some business meetings attended by the Italian owner of Sosua Bay Hotel, gun shots were fired. When I stayed at the Sosua Bay Hotel, the Italian owner would always park his large new Mercedes Benz vehicle outside the lobby entrance.

The Italian owner of sosua bay hotel (and the other properties I mentioned) was set to lose the Victorian House and the new casino at an auction, because of his legal dispute with the US Army Veteran Art Tarlow. The day before the auction was to occur, Art Tarlow was shot dead in his sosua home. No expensive items were stolen, documents regarding the legal dispute with the Italian owner of Sosua Bay Hotel were taken. The auction appears to have not gone forward and appears the Italian guy still owns the Victorian House and the New Casino as well as the other businesses I previously mentioned. He is the prime suspect in the murder of the US Army Veteran.

Seems the Italian guy has money for a new large BMW vehicle, but he doesn't pay his workers. I don't know if you or your friends spent money in Classicos, Merengue Bar, Sosua Bay Hotel, Victorian House, After One Disco or the new casino, if you did, you financially supported a guy who probably murdered a US Army Veteran. Maybe you don't care about such things, which would be understandable, seeing the type of person you are. (crime scene photo, Art Tarlow in Sosua)

Testing out some software tonight, here is about a minute of a fashion show I recorded with my IPhone. This wasn't recorded in any city listed so I decided to stick it in this thread: [url]http://youtu.be/RkirOkyVZMA[/url]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1255603]All I see here in Pattaya is farang holding hands and hugged up with their hookers. They even do the same with the ladyboys and all I can do is Shake My Damn Head. The night before last in the Philippines I took a girl and she tried to hold my hand walking down the street. I said there'll be none of that babe. Granted, if you are spending the money then you should make it the kind of experience you want. I'm just not personally keen on being romantic with the paid help.

While I do enjoy a GFE, if I really wanted one then I would just get a girlfriend. It's starting to look like girlfriends are a thing of the past in DR. Most chicas are requiring money and gifts now in exchange for their companionship. And if I wanted to do that then I would just assume pay a hooker.

I second the notion. Some people are addicted to crack, some to alcohol, some to gambling, some to church; I just happen to be addicted to women. Is there a rehab for that or should I even want to go to one?[/QUOTE]You get what you pay. If you are happy with a high mileage (possibly sick) pro, good for you. Kissing a woman is a nice part of sex. Kissing a pro who just took a load in her mouth from another guy, no thanks for me. Seems you don't mind or maybe you just want to stick it into something, for that you don't even need a woman.

I give $5US Aeropostale t-shirts to non-pro GFs. If you prefer to give some high mileage pro 500 pesos (appx $13US) or more (where you probably can't even kiss her, because you don't know where her mouth was 15 minutes before) rather than give a low mileage non-pro a $5US gift, well that is your choice.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1255568]What you say is quite understandable and I would agree with most of it. However you do see quite a lot of couples walking around holding hands, arm in arm, etc. Probably some of them are expatriates who live in or around Sosua and have regular girl friends. It seems to be a usual pattern that I have observed over some years that guys who go to live in the area eventually hook up with some favorita and become more-or-less sexually monogamous, at least to the extent that they would not be seen holding hands with another in the street. But some of them must be visitors / vacationers, so presumably it is still possible to hook up in some manner if that is what you want. If you are young and hang with a particular group, you might not notice these guys, many of whom are older and / or European, if they fly under your radar, but if you look there are plenty of them in the various restaurants around the town at breakfast or dinner time dining with their Dominican paramours.[/QUOTE]Frannie,

We could walk through Sosua together and see two different things. Naturally it makes sense that an expat that lives in Sosua would have a favorita.

Here's something a popular cabbie told BBL and I while taking us to Puerto Plata. I thought I was sharing a bar girl with a certain German, when the cabbie said he is a gay coke head. My jaw dropped because I thought he was a major player. The cabbie said some ex pats or Europeans that move there either turn gay or turn to coke. For what its worth.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1255609]You get what you pay. If you are happy with a high mileage (possibly sick) pro, good for you. Kissing a woman is a nice part of sex. Kissing a pro who just took a load in her mouth from another guy, no thanks for me. Seems you don't mind or maybe you just want to stick it into something, for that you don't even need a woman.

I give $5US Aeropostale t-shirts to non-pro GFs. If you prefer to give some high mileage pro 500 pesos (appx $13US) or more (where you probably can't even kiss her, because you don't know where her mouth was 15 minutes before) rather than give a low mileage non-pro a $5US gift, well that is your choice.[/QUOTE]Come on now Jaosousa, if you think that everyone on this board is going to buy into the premise that all your girls in the DR are as pure as the fresh driven snow and you've never stuck your tongue down the throat of one of your "non pros" an hour after she swallowed her dominican boyfriend's spunk then you are purely delusional.

Most of the guys here know what these girls are about, we know that most of the time we are getting sloppy seconds but at least we have the balls to admit it, you on the other hand are living some far out fantasy that those Badoo and Hi5 girls you chase all over the countryside are jumping your bones for a $5. Tee shirt and then going home to mommy to await your return in two months. I've got news for you, they are in the club the night after your plane departs drinking and partying with her new tee shirt and wiping her cum filled mouth with it.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1255569]My father was in the US Military and always told me when the Navy guys showed up in some town in Korea, the p4p prices always went up. How long does it take to travel from San Diego to Puerto Plata? I used to live in San Diego, maybe you enjoy the Hillcrest neighborhood (I had Thai friends who used to work in a good Thai restaurant there. Or maybe you live in El Cajon). You grew up in Miami and live near Mexico, I am sure your Spanish must be good.[/QUOTE]Yep, the Navy coming to town always jacked up the prices, but we had plenty of bucks to burn due to spending weeks, and even months at sea. It takes forever and a day to get to Puerto Plata from the West Coast, but I don't mind. Hillcrest has some of the best restaurants that San Diego has to offer, love the place, but then again I'm not homophobic. BTW, I live at the beach, PB to be exact. Actually my Spanish sucks and it wasn't that long ago when Coolie High dogged my ass out for not knowing the language, but I am working on it.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1255569]I believe in one of your posts you stated that you had a session with the well known Patricia. What was the cost of that session? One pop or multiple pops? Bareback? Did she allow photos? You having been in the US Military you can get free medical treatment through the Veterans Affairs Department, paid for by the US Government, so if you happen to get an illness in Sosua, you can get free medical treatment. I don't have free medical treatment, so I have to be more careful where I dip my dick.[/QUOTE]Aw Patricia, she is quite a hoot, a tad dangerous, but still quite fun. Multiple pops at my age; laughable. I paid her enough to ensure that she would not hurt or kill me, and she was well worth the money. I will repeat with her again. I have plenty of photos and videos of Patricia that I share with close pals. I could get free medical care through the VA, but I chose not to, and I do pay for my own medical care and I don't have a problem with that. There are many more vets out there that are far less fortunate than me, thus, I don't want to clog the system for them.

BTW, thanks for the fatherly advice, even though I doubt it was genuine. Having said all that, it would still be my pleasure to meet you and buy you a few, maybe more, rounds. You do have a lot of experience in this hobby, and I'm sure I could learn a lot from you. I'm not on this earth to judge you, but on the other hand, please don't judge me.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1255645]Yep, the Navy coming to town always jacked up the prices, but we had plenty of bucks to burn due to spending weeks, and even months at sea. It takes forever and a day to get to Puerto Plata from the West Coast, but I don't mind. Hillcrest has some of the best restaurants that San Diego has to offer, love the place, but then again I'm not homophobic. BTW, I live at the beach, PB to be exact. Actually my Spanish sucks and it wasn't that long ago when Coolie High dogged my ass out for not knowing the language, but I am working on it.

Aw Patricia, she is quite a hoot, a tad dangerous, but still quite fun. Multiple pops at my age; laughable. I paid her enough to ensure that she would not hurt or kill me, and she was well worth the money. I will repeat with her again. I have plenty of photos and videos of Patricia that I share with close pals. I could get free medical care through the VA, but I chose not to, and I do pay for my own medical care and I don't have a problem with that. There are many more vets out there that are far less fortunate than me, thus, I don't want to clog the system for them.

BTW, thanks for the fatherly advice, even though I doubt it was genuine. Having said all that, it would still be my pleasure to meet you and buy you a few, maybe more, rounds. You do have a lot of experience in this hobby, and I'm sure I could learn a lot from you. I'm not on this earth to judge you, but on the other hand, please don't judge me.[/QUOTE]Hey Tomjackin, hope you are well. Maybe I'm a little outdated, but I remember just the opposite. I'm Navy, USS Enterprise (CVN 65) and USS Mount Hood (Ae29) and I was stationed in Alameda and San Diego. I was in the Navy during the 80s, and most of the pussy I got was free or very cheap. Balboa park and Tijuana were my spots then.

One thing about the current debate is that no one has crossed the line in these debates. No cussing, no racial insults and no mommas jokes here, just friends going at it respectfully. My last debate was that sorry ass MadisonGay who couldn't articulate his point without saying he " didn't like my black ass". My point is its all healthy as long as we debate without crossing the line.

Personally I was introduced to the DR at a time when women catered to the guests. So naturally I've learned to respect the culture. I respect Jao because he has taken time to show anyone who asks, what is there. He also has learned to speak Spanish better than any monger I have met, so yeah he has the credentials to *****. Show me anyone who has given more of the DR culture to this board. He has access to girls that a lot of us don't. He is just giving his angle. Some will appreciate it, others won't. But its all healthy that we exchange different perspectives. BTW I made two WestPacs.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1255329]That would be me, and BTW, thanks for the compliment. I actually learned that term by two ISG members that live there and they can't wait to escape the place to have real fun. Personally, I've been there three times and have yet to find the fascination of the place. The city is stressful, busy, and driving there is not an option; JMHO of course. Everyone I met from there during my long military career always boosted,"I'm from New York City!" Like it makes a real difference in life. I was born and raised in an inner city in Miami, does in matter, fuck no. It only matters what you do in life, but not where in the hell you lived throughout your life.

I now live in San Diego, one of the most laid back cities in America. And one of the nicest places to live as well. I've talked to guys in Sosua and throughout the world and they do not want to end their vacation and return to Philly or the blessed NYC. They are disappointed to get on a plane to go home, but yet, I'm ready to return home.

After spending 27 years in the military, and romping my ass threw 40+ countries, and exploring 49 of the 50 states (I figured SD was just as good as ND) , I think, maybe only think, that I have some clue to what's going on in life; but maybe not. I like Sosua for the same reasons I like Pattaya and Tijuana. It is all about one-stop shopping; no bullshit, just shopping. And I guess in your eyes there is something wrong with that? I longer give a shit about relationships, but I guess you do; no worries.

My Spanish sucks, but I am working on it. Jaosousa, if I do ever get proficient in Spanish in years to come; hopefully I will be able to hold a candle to your superior self![/QUOTE]Well said brother. At the very young age of 26, I've seen and done a WHOLE lot. Joined the US Navy when I was 17 and did my time. Completed 2. 5 years worth of school using TA while I was in and finished the rest when I got out. Now, flying for a mid-sized regional airline based out of Georgia. In all honesty, I tried the whole GFE thing and IMHO, I'd rather do it back home and ahve the woman laying next to me at night or having her over whenever I wanted to while paying for her hair and nails every now and then (hey, we all have to pay no matter what). When I'm out the country, I'm looking for a fix. There's a reason why I don't even bother posting in USASG anymore. I told those guys time and time again that the money they spend on some chic on BP for an hour, I get the goods for the entire night in Panama City, Bangkok, Santo Domingo, San Jose, Sosua, etc. Etc. And looking like 8 and 9s to boot.

No disrespect to the senior members but no, I see no problem with paying a Sosua chica to rub the goods right and ride the hell out of me for a couple hours, all the while tipping her $13. Thirteen lousy dollars. What has the world come to that we are now comparing what one pays for a gift vs. Another? So what if you only spent $5 on some SP T-shirt you bought from a thrift store. As for me, I usually have a shopping list and I do enjoy giving out gifts to some of the girls but that's just me IDK. I have no kids, like in an apartment by myself and drive a used car with liability insurance but make a pretty good living so my money is jsut that, mine after bills and thus I am able to do certain things for myself.

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Anyway, I would like to thank ALL the contributors to this place. Including every single SM. Like I said, no disrecpect meant just voicing my opinion on what seems to be the hot topic right now so back to the chicas please!

So, I haven't been to Sosua in almost a year now. I've been too busy exploring other corners of the world. Just got back from Panama with a buddy of mine and did a romp in Manila just a month ago by myself (boy oh boy what a place). I've only been to Sosua twice and both occasions were on the weekend but I will be heading back in jsut two weeks but my "stay" days will be on a Sunday and Monday night departing Tuesday morning. Are these bad days for the bay? I've been told every day is a good day but some days are jsut slower than others. Also, I saw several comments about the NG. Has anything changed there since the last time I've been? Did some searching and seems like CMPs is up and running but their prices are a little north of what Passions has so I really don't know if its worth it. Last question. Any new bars / hangout spots? Places that come to mind are Latinos, La Rumba, Classicos, Life Bar, Merengue Bar to name a few that I passed through. Any changed names or new spots opened up?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1255645]Actually my Spanish sucks and it wasn't that long ago when Coolie High dogged my ass out for not knowing the language, but I am working on it.[/QUOTE]Speaking of knowing the language I was and still is amazed at how although you barely knew any words how you were still the life of the party. Seriously I remember our last night together and you were dancing with 2 or 3 hunnies, you had security making sure we were good, hell even the bartenders were making sure you were straight and would give you the thumbs up if this girl was cool or not. Did I mention he did all this while barely knowing how to say gracias LOL.

It goes to show you that although spanish is key it is NOT the end all or be all. Sosua is not all a bunch of hardcore hoe's and hustlers trying to get you for every dime. Please re-read that last statement!

Ultimately it's a mans personality and how you treat people that will be the difference maker. TomJackin is a type of cat that can chill with anybody cus he gives everybody he meets respect. Now he ain't no sucker. He won't over pay on a broad or get hustled but he'll pay fair market value and make sure the hunnies have a good time while there with them and because of that quality he's able to party with a crazy broad like Patricia and come out alive LOL.

[quote=jaosousa;1255609]kissing a woman is a nice part of sex. kissing a pro who just took a load in her mouth from another guy, no thanks for me.[/quote]you are completely obsessed with this subject and have posted about it over and over again. is it impossible for you to have sex without thinking about other men's penises? please see your therapist.

[quote=frannie;1255735]you are completely obsessed with this subject and have posted about it over and over again. is it impossible for you to have sex without thinking about other men's penises? please see your therapist.[/quote]you could argue a case that sex is actually safer with full-time putas. they spend their time fucking with gringos and they will usually use condoms. non-putas will be fucking just as much, but with their dominican boyfriends and usually without condoms.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1255739]You could argue a case that sex is actually safer with full-time putas. They spend their time fucking with gringos and they will usually use condoms. Non-putas will be fucking just as much, but with their Dominican boyfriends and usually without condoms.[/QUOTE]God Pooter, you know every DR chica and you can see into every bedroom and you know how every DR chica has sex, when and with whom. Laughable. I don't recall you doing many trips out of Puerto Plata (not even to Haiti). Seems you only go with Haitians and your personal knowledge of Dominicanas outside of Puerto Plata is very limited (probably non-existent).

When I was 15 years old I was happy to have sex with Any woman. As I grow older I can wait to have sex with particular DR women (Dogs in the street hump whatever, I like to believe I am a little more evolved, than a dog in the street). I dated Dominicanas in New York City for over 10 years before I started traveling to DR and have been dating chicas in DR for about 10 years. Over 20 years of dating Dominicanas, I have learned how to stay away from knucklehead chicas.

I would never insult Haitians by stating that almost all Haitians have sex without a condom. But, again you make feeble attempts to try and insult Dominicans, at the same time you live in their country. Trust me, the Dominicans or the DR Government won't miss your hateful attitude if you decided to move to Haiti. Why an old retiree chooses to live amongst people he clearly despises, when has other options, makes no sense to me.

Jaceml in Haiti looks like a very nice place. I am sure an old pensioner who loves Haitianas, could live nice in Jacmel (or are you afraid that non-hardcore Haitianas in Haiti would give you no attention and see you for what you really are, a bitter, old man, living out his remaining days on a small pension.) Spending all your time and money in Haiti with Haitianas (away from the Dominicans who you hate so much) might be best for all involved. (I don't recall you ever writing anything nice about Dominicans). BTW, did lord byron get thrown out of great britain because he was gay?

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1255739]You could argue a case that sex is actually safer with full-time putas. They spend their time fucking with gringos and they will usually use condoms. Non-putas will be fucking just as much, but with their Dominican boyfriends and usually without condoms.[/QUOTE]If one has to worry about who was there before me, one has to bring back the chastity belt and even then I wonder if it actually worked. LOL.

Besides, no sacred cows anymore even on the so-called no-pro sites.

[url]http://badoo.com/01206648315/?r=2X_n1&p=2[/url]

A rather attractive (for me) female the way I like them. Well endowed and she has posted her phone number with a clear message. Sex for mula on top left. Anyone on this board and presently in the DR may try his luck (and regale us with the tale later ). Open season but looking at the number of hits. It appears that she is much sought after. She is stationed close to Santiago de Los Caballeros.

[quote=frannie;1255735]you are completely obsessed with this subject and have posted about it over and over again. is it impossible for you to have sex without thinking about other men's penises? please see your therapist.[/quote]this is the international sex guide, most guys use a penis for sex. posts regarding sex will sometimes have the word penis or dick.

i have tried to explain the concept of a low mileage semi-pro numerous times. some guys who only travel to sosua and puerto plata cannot understand the concept, i have tried to explain over and over (my posts have the words penis or dick). maybe you should be reading readers digest if you can't handle the p or d word.

the photos that major posted which he says are of a semi-pro chica in santo domingo, are better than any photos i have ever seen posted in the sosua forum.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1255755]If one has to worry about who was there before me, one has to bring back the chastity belt and even then I wonder if it actually worked.[/QUOTE]Hence my earlier reference to Tess of the Durbervilles. Actually, to elaborate a bit, on her wedding night her husband tells her he has a confession to make that is on his conscience, and tells here that he is not a virgin, and that he once had sex with a prostitute. Relieved at this, she shares her own shameful secret which had been pressing on her, that she had a baby that died. When he hears this he is completely repulsed, calls her a working girl, rejects her as his wife and off he goes to Brazil. We men like our women to be innocent, and if not innocent to at least look innocent. For many men, the thought of their woman having sex with another is enough to cause impotence.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1255755]A rather attractive (for me) female the way I like them. Well endowed.[/QUOTE]If they come with a dowry, that is a plus, or do you just mean you like women with large dicks. (LOL).

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1255755]If one has to worry about who was there before me, one has to bring back the chastity belt and even then I wonder if it actually worked. LOL.

Besides, no sacred cows anymore even on the so-called no-pro sites.

[url]http://badoo.com/01206648315/?r=2X_n1&p=2[/url]

A rather attractive (for me) female the way I like them. Well endowed and she has posted her phone number with a clear message. Sex for mula on top left. Anyone on this board and presently in the DR may try his luck (and regale us with the tale later ). Open season but looking at the number of hits. It appears that she is much sought after. She is stationed close to Santiago de Los Caballeros.[/QUOTE]I'm on Badoo pretty often and never came cross one with their # in the profile. How'd you find her? Just browsing or is there a search field I missed.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1255759]For many men, the thought of their woman having sex with another is enough to cause impotence.

If they come with a dowry, that is a plus, or do you just mean you like women with large dicks. (LOL).[/QUOTE]1. We men are so vain! I would like to think it is the women who went hunting for quality gene, until the advent of private property but that is a whole other tangential discussion.

In India, where I am originally from, they always ask (for official documents) for one's father's name so I would get pissed off and say, let me go and ask my mom, because she is the only one who truly knows. Of course these idiots, would not quite get it.

2. Hey, granted that Queen's language is not my native tongue but I was under the impression that mammary of women are part of the "endowment" process as well! O me equivoco? LOL!

P. S. : I have called for the Tom Hardy book at my library.

[QUOTE=DeltaFlier;1255772]I'm on Badoo pretty often and never came cross one with their # in the profile. How'd you find her? Just browsing or is there a search field I missed.[/QUOTE]No... no specific search field. It was just there. Happens every now and then I presume, as I have seen this on a few other occasions. Good luck if your boots are on the ground there.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1255813].I was under the impression that mammary of women are part of the "endowment" process as well![/QUOTE]Ah, the dowry chest. Yes, indeed. My boob.

Some of the pics you have been posting are outstanding, esp. the one on the beach in yellow with the tremendous butt. Do you see them on a regular basis? Where do you find them?

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1255401]You have to hurry up and get there so you can posts some of those great pictures.

The report BO posted about girls talking about poisoning has credit with me for several reasons. The main one being that they didn't think he understood Spanish, so they felt free to tell secrets. That was a very telling post that should raise a flag to all mongerers. I always make a girl take a shower first, know why? Because I heard of girls spiking their titties. A guy is in such a rush to fuck and suck that he never knew what happened until he wakes up. Has this ever happened to me? No. Do I know anyone thats its happened to? No. Would I be a fool to think it never will? Yes.

Any responsible monger would always make sure his brothers maintain awareness. Just because the hotel doesn't enforce this policy doesn't mean we shouldn't either. We are our own brothers keeper here. If a brother is too exhausted from partying all night to atleast escort a girl out of our "safe zone", then maybe we are setting ourselves up.

As far as the Sosua girls now not being hardcore, I don't agree. Most of those weekend girls from out of town are Santo Domingo or Santiago weekend hustlers. They usually work in teams. They usually go for the quick money fucks. Before you had that newbie who was from Mantellano or Puerto Plata who wanted to meet a nice guy and spend as much of his vacation with him as possible. They would invite you to their home for a home cooked meal, they would get excited about an afternoon date to Cabarete, they would go to the beach (Playa Grande not Sousa) with their weekend boyfriend, they would cry when you departure day arrived. Shit, nowadays these girls don't even want a repeat date, its on to the next guy. Thats pretty hardcore to me.

But lets not let the mongerer off the hook. I remember a few years ago when breakfast at NG was full of couples, now its just guys boasting. I remember before seeing guys walking around holding girls hands. I remember when there were so many girls during the day that guys didn't go out at night for girls. Before guys took their girlfriends to Classicos, now Classicos is for meeting a girl for an hour fuck. Before mongeres developed such a comfort zone that they spent freely and walked around with a lot of money, hence the few pick pockets.

Now the guys are just as hardcore as the girls.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1255757]I have tried to explain the concept of a low mileage semi-pro numerous times. Some guys who only travel to Sosua and Puerto Plata cannot understand the concept, I have tried to explain over and over.[/QUOTE]The problem is that nobody in the Sosua forum cares. If we did, we'd be in the SD forum trying to find out about "Semi-pros" rather than focusing all of our attention on "High-mileage pros". You are preaching to the choir buddy.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1255757]The photos that Major posted which he says are of a semi-pro chica in Santo Domingo, are better than any photos I have ever seen posted in the Sosua forum.[/QUOTE]That is because you are biased. If Major had come back to the photo gallery and said "just kidding; she is a Sousa pro", then it would be the worst photo you have ever seen in the entire history of ISG and you'd then start lecturing him about how barebacking her could result in AIDS.

[QUOTE=Scotch; 1253835]This is 4 you Vets that go to Classico. There is a Mocha colored girl with nice stright hair maybe a wave and a body to die 4. She looks like a Amazon Model but seem to suck up 4 me and I alway go by Vibe. I talk to a guy from the US who was talking to her and he said she wanted 6k. He said she was not budgeing I guess with Westen U guys sending you money you don't have to.

2 pic attach. The girl in Blue was a hookup From a Nice driver slash Pimp. He took me to some bar / club were she met us in POP. Its was a waste of time she's a dead fish in the short stay and wanted 800us per month to be my girl friend, because she love me and wanted to quit hoeing. Well she seem like she quit cause she sucks. I gave her 1500, gave the driver 2000 for the round trip and hook up. Plus spent another 1200 on drinks and food. Never ever never ever agian, But she is fine with a bunch of Westen U boyfriend I am sure. The one in pink a classico girl she was good and I did her friend the next night she was also good.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report and pics, pretty chicas.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1255651]Hey Tomjackin, hope you are well. Maybe I'm a little outdated, but I remember just the opposite. I'm Navy, USS Enterprise (CVN 65) and USS Mount Hood (Ae29) and I was stationed in Alameda and San Diego. I was in the Navy during the 80s, and most of the pussy I got was free or very cheap. Balboa park and Tijuana were my spots then.

One thing about the current debate is that no one has crossed the line in these debates. No cussing, no racial insults and no mommas jokes here, just friends going at it respectfully. My last debate was that sorry ass MadisonGay who couldn't articulate his point without saying he " didn't like my black ass". My point is its all healthy as long as we debate without crossing the line.

Personally I was introduced to the DR at a time when women catered to the guests. So naturally I've learned to respect the culture. I respect Jao because he has taken time to show anyone who asks, what is there. He also has learned to speak Spanish better than any monger I have met, so yeah he has the credentials to. Show me anyone who has given more of the DR culture to this board. He has access to girls that a lot of us don't. He is just giving his angle. Some will appreciate it, others won't. But its all healthy that we exchange different perspectives. BTW I made two WestPacs.[/QUOTE]Hey Mr. Gogo, hope all is well with you back at ya! I ran the gamut as far as I could in the navy before I called it a day. Starting as a lonely ass E-1 in 1977, and retiring 27 years later as a W-4. After 10 deployments, two tours overseas, PI & Japan (PI about did my ass in) , I figured I had enough, but not one damn regret. The prices overseas always go up when the fleet pulls into place like Hong Kong, Korea, Singapore; the cities are keen to the fleet and the money that can be made. I do miss the old downtown San Diego. Now it is full of tourists, but years ago the sailors ran the place.

I don't mind a good debate whatsoever, but I don't like to be called out either. Have not seen many posts lately from your buddy MadisonGay. He polluted every thread he went on; good riddance. I also have respect for Jao and I have read many of his excellent posts. He frowns on Sosua; I get it already.

I don't look down at the ladies in Sosua, or anywhere else in the world for that matter. They all get my respect, until they do something silly, like steal from me or even worse, hurt my old ass; which neither has happen yet. Pro, semi-pro, hardcore, or softcore, all women want something in one way or another; such as life. I partied with Patricia a few times in the club and I have no problem buying her a couple of beers. She dances for me and loves the attention she gets from me and my camera. I think she is a sweetheart, but life hasn't been good to her, thus, she can be a bit difficult to understand.

You are on my "I want to meet this dude!" list, and one day when the moon and the stars are in the right position, I'm sure it will happen!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1255895]I do miss the old downtown San Diego. Now it is full of tourists, but years ago the sailors ran the place.[/QUOTE]Tattoo parlors near the downtown YMCA in San Diego, before all the new buildings starting going up. That YMCA had a gym, with a good size pool in the basement. Sailing classes offered through UCSD. Good weather in San Diego.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1255814]No. no specific search field. It was just there. Happens every now and then I presume, as I have seen this on a few other occasions. Good luck if your boots are on the ground there.[/QUOTE][url]Http://us1.badoo.com/01205411711/?r=2plb2&p=14[/url]

[url]http://us1.badoo.com/01204736372/?r=2plb3&p=30[/url]

[url]http://us1.badoo.com/01120162053/?r=2plb4&p=32[/url]

No phone numbers here but the first one has a clear message. The other two I chatted with and it very quickly came down to how much. And I am a cheapskate! .

Punting over to whoever is interested out there.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1255910][url]Http://us1.badoo.com/01205411711/?r=2plb2&p=14[/url]

[url]http://us1.badoo.com/01204736372/?r=2plb3&p=30[/url]

[url]http://us1.badoo.com/01120162053/?r=2plb4&p=32[/url]

No phone numbers here but the first one has a clear message. The other two I chatted with and it very quickly came down to how much. And I am a cheapskate! .

Punting over to whoever is interested out there.[/QUOTE]Tempocorto, I don't see the point in putting links up to ladies pages in Badoo the way you have done here. The first girl you posted is wearing a bikini, big deal! The second is doing some sexy poses, and the third is just wearing a nice dress, saying she 'wants to go out with a man'. Again, big deal! Yes, obviously there is a reason why if the average American or European tries to attract the interest of a woman on Badoo in the DR, they will get loads more interest than they would with similar searches on Badoo at home, ie poverty, a lack of opportunities, a wish to better themselves etc, etc, but what is the point of putting up a link to 3 women? Where will it end, why not put a link up to 10, 000 women on Badoo in the DR, I am sure there at least that many on it! I don't think they would appreciate what you did, and doing things like this may one day damage our chances of getting their numbers so easily! So a little reflection before posting in future would be appreciated. And if it is so easy to get 'leads' like this as you call them, why not let other guys find their own instead of 'punting' them out there ? And yes, every now and again a woman on Badoo will put her number on her profile, but she is either a total hardcore pro, or she is totally desperate for funds.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;1255920]Tempocorto, I don't see the point in putting links up to ladies pages in Badoo the way you have done here. The first girl you posted is wearing a bikini, big deal! The second is doing some sexy poses, and the third is just wearing a nice dress, saying she 'wants to go out with a man'. Again, big deal! Yes, obviously there is a reason why if the average American or European tries to attract the interest of a woman on Badoo in the DR, they will get loads more interest than they would with similar searches on Badoo at home, ie poverty, a lack of opportunities, a wish to better themselves etc, etc, but what is the point of putting up a link to 3 women? Where will it end, why not put a link up to 10, 000 women on Badoo in the DR, I am sure there at least that many on it! I don't think they would appreciate what you did, and doing things like this may one day damage our chances of getting their numbers so easily![/QUOTE]I don't see the point in posting the links either, but I don't think anything will damage your chances of getting someone's phone number on a site that has women in the third-world as their focus. You said it yourself,"the average American or European tries to attract the interest of a woman on Badoo in the DR, they will get loads more interest than they would with similar searches on Badoo at home, ie poverty, a lack of opportunities, a wish to better themselves." None of this will change because Temp posted the link to a profile that anyone could have looked on badoo themselves and seen. Then Philippines section has a thread called Chat Rooms & Pen Pals and people post profiles of dateinasia girls everyday. The only difference that I have seen is that the girls there come to your room and take off their clothes immediately without you having to say a word. Or are you on the websites hoping to find an angel?

[QUOTE=Coupe66;1255920]Tempocorto, I don't see the point in putting links up to ladies pages in Badoo the way you have done here.[/QUOTE]I did not consider the women's privacy part. I should have.

The only reason three girls because two I spoke to and they are direct to the point compared to many more wishy-washys that need to be whittled down with time and other resources. The third one was unusually candid in her message (not pics) about her mission which certainly to my experience is not typical....

Yes, all here who are interested can access this info without much ado and certainly without my intervention. However, if you backtrack the flow, you will find it all started with a point I was trying to make about the non-pro "pro" sites, but touche', you have made your point!

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1255963]I don't see the point in posting the links either, but I don't think anything will damage your chances of getting someone's phone number on a site that has women in the third-world as their focus. You said it yourself,"the average American or European tries to attract the interest of a woman on Badoo in the DR, they will get loads more interest than they would with similar searches on Badoo at home, ie poverty, a lack of opportunities, a wish to better themselves." None of this will change because Temp posted the link to a profile that anyone could have looked on badoo themselves and seen. Then Philippines section has a thread called Chat Rooms & Pen Pals and people post profiles of dateinasia girls everyday. The only difference that I have seen is that the girls there come to your room and take off their clothes immediately without you having to say a word. Or are you on the websites hoping to find an angel?[/QUOTE]Honestly, Tempoecorto's post was not just good but so 'relevant' to the forum audience. This is a great lead for the badoo novices. The girls look terrific and I am tempted to join badoo now, it just opened up a new venue for mongering. Excellent post Tempeocorto, feel free to say what you like, and personally I think there is no need to be superfluous with your language, don't think anyone here cares, just blurt out the facts and your experiences as they come.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;1255920]Tempocorto, I don't see the point in putting links up to ladies pages in Badoo the way you have done here. The first girl you posted is wearing a bikini, big deal! The second is doing some sexy poses, and the third is just wearing a nice dress, saying she 'wants to go out with a man'. Again, big deal! Yes, obviously there is a reason why if the average American or European tries to attract the interest of a woman on Badoo in the DR, they will get loads more interest than they would with similar searches on Badoo at home, ie poverty, a lack of opportunities, a wish to better themselves etc, etc, but what is the point of putting up a link to 3 women? Where will it end, why not put a link up to 10, 000 women on Badoo in the DR, I am sure there at least that many on it! I don't think they would appreciate what you did, and doing things like this may one day damage our chances of getting their numbers so easily! So a little reflection before posting in future would be appreciated. And if it is so easy to get 'leads' like this as you call them, why not let other guys find their own instead of 'punting' them out there ? And yes, every now and again a woman on Badoo will put her number on her profile, but she is either a total hardcore pro, or she is totally desperate for funds.[/QUOTE]Yes, he was simply trying to make a point that they are out there. I had asked about the first one because I wasn't sure if there was a search function I could use or something and he said he stumbled across her and there are more but you jsut have to find them, then he made the next post as an example.

My long rant aside, so I'll cut it out the original message. Any help as to below? Thanks guys!

[QUOTE=DeltaFlier; 1255679]Anyway, I would like to thank ALL the contributors to this place. Including every single SM. Like I said, no disrecpect meant just voicing my opinion on what seems to be the hot topic right now so back to the chicas please!

So, I haven't been to Sosua in almost a year now. I've been too busy exploring other corners of the world. Just got back from Panama with a buddy of mine and did a romp in Manila just a month ago by myself (boy oh boy what a place). I've only been to Sosua twice and both occasions were on the weekend but I will be heading back in jsut two weeks but my "stay" days will be on a Sunday and Monday night departing Tuesday morning. Are these bad days for the bay? I've been told every day is a good day but some days are jsut slower than others. Also, I saw several comments about the NG. Has anything changed there since the last time I've been? Did some searching and seems like CMPs is up and running but their prices are a little north of what Passions has so I really don't know if its worth it. Last question. Any new bars / hangout spots? Places that come to mind are Latinos, La Rumba, Classicos, Life Bar, Merengue Bar to name a few that I passed through. Any changed names or new spots opened up?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1219609]"Great spade chicks" and "diggin your potatoes"! Fran, What the FUCK are you talking about. LMFAO! Yo Fran be cool. I get the un called for sarcasm. Now can we get back to why where here and that's pussy.

And from your diggin your pototaes talk it would seem you need a good blow job err I mean fellatio from a woman right about now to clear your mind. We were already on high alert with a man eatin Sosua ass but now you just took us into the twilight zone with that post.[/QUOTE]You let Frannie be! I know what he be talkin 'about!

[QUOTE=Irishman7;1256314]You let Frannie be! I know what he be talkin 'about![/QUOTE]This is truly a first,"ahem" a Fake Irishman talking like a"brutha" You let Frannie be cause he kno wut he be talkin about, like my man Coolie said wut the fuck is wrong with frannie, lets not start this horrible singing by frannie, we don't give a shit about lyric, and trambling some wine, so run a check on yo self Irishman you act like a 7 year old. I guess you wanted to digg in the trash and recycyle this bullshit singing of frannies, I guess us REAL BROTHERS, can have this european frannie, the overlord of being black, his credentials? He sleep with dark haitian, now that somehow gives him complete authority, to tell us Real African Americans, how to act, think, say and do. Honestly I aint a fan of Frannie, I never want to meet him at all, I'm sure he feels the same, pp.

At to meet him I could care less what spade he call a spade, and irish7, you sound like a idiot also. Just mho. Pi pi

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[QUOTE=DeltaFlier;1256174]Yes, he was simply trying to make a point that they are out there. I had asked about the first one because I wasn't sure if there was a search function I could use or something and he said he stumbled across her and there are more but you jsut have to find them, then he made the next post as an example.[/QUOTE]On that note, the first woman whose link I had posted has already removed her phone number as I noticed later. Hopefully some of you guys got lucky at least in writing it down. Perhaps she got inundated by calls.

Personally, this whole discussion about non, semi and full pro and that they are congregated in certain areas is pure mental masturbation. No free lunch nowhere. My personal wet dream is pick someone. While driving hopefully in a remote area or on a deserted beach (a la Jao or Enternational and others), without having to maintain a calendar. All this calling / chatting and blah is hard...almost work. LOL.

[QUOTE=Kman1;1255984]Honestly, Tempoecorto's post was not just good but so 'relevant' to the forum audience. This is a great lead for the badoo novices. The girls look terrific and I am tempted to join badoo now, it just opened up a new venue for mongering. Excellent post Tempeocorto, feel free to say what you like, and personally I think there is no need to be superfluous with your language, don't think anyone here cares, just blurt out the facts and your experiences as they come.[/QUOTE]Thanks but I should have been a little more judicious about posting a link from a social network (no matter how lurid that might or not be) to a site like this with potential negative connotations for the person / s concerned.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1256458]Personally, this whole discussion about non, semi and full pro and that they are congregated in certain areas is pure mental masturbation. No free lunch nowhere. My personal wet dream is pick someone. While driving hopefully in a remote area or on a deserted beach (a la Jao or Enternational and others), without having to maintain a calendar. All this calling / chatting and blah is hard.almost work. LOL.[/QUOTE]Have you noticed that in the movies the action heroes like James Bond never have to pay for sex? Of course Ian Fleming lived in Jamaica, so maybe that explains it. Or it is all fantasy. I am sure there are lots of beautiful young women in the Dominican campos like Cinderellas dreaming as they fetch water from the well of a mysterious gringo in a white SUV and sunglasses who bends them over and fucks them and never offers a dime. Kind of like Bridges of Madison County, only with an international angle.

Have done lots of research on this site am going to sosua in about five or six weeks when my money comes in. I have decided that I will be staying at the new garden and having long time girls

From passions a differant one each night unless I find one special, any of you members have any recomendations of girls to take home would be great? I would like girls like the girl that interrupts.

Cubadave on youtube she is curvy not too slim no fat, does anybody know her name? She is first on my hit list. Also can anybody tell me is the road to passions closed on the evenings and how.

Far is passions from new garden as I have to consider my disability. Many thanks everyone.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1256485]I am sure there are lots of beautiful young women in the Dominican campos like Cinderellas dreaming as they fetch water from the well of a mysterious gringo in a white SUV and sunglasses who bends them over and fucks them and never offers a dime.[/QUOTE]I am sure low mileage or no mileage chicas from the campos visit Sosua, so not all women in Sosua are high mileage pros (some high mileage pros can be fun).

Charles Pooter in person is a very charming, very intelligent guy with an excellent sense of humor. I have been told, you too Frannie can be nice when people meet you in person.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1256485]Have you noticed that in the movies the action heroes like James Bond never have to pay for sex? Of course Ian Fleming lived in Jamaica, so maybe that explains it. Or it is all fantasy. I am sure there are lots of beautiful young women in the Dominican campos like Cinderellas dreaming as they fetch water from the well of a mysterious gringo in a white SUV and sunglasses who bends them over and fucks them and never offers a dime. Kind of like Bridges of Madison County, only with an international angle.[/QUOTE]Well, you live in the DR. It is time for some fact finding mission (a la mission impossible) to map out the Cinderellas out in the vincaland waiting for the gringo (well non-gringos too, with the undersigned.) Oh, by the way, I was actually looking at Jamaica also....curious what is out there.

Bridges of Madison County, one of the most romantic movies I have seen in a long time and that too at an older age. Do not want to equate it with James Fleming Bond stuff! .

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt; 1256392]This is truly a first,"ahem" a Fake Irishman talking like a"brutha" You let Frannie be cause he kno wut he be talkin about, like my man Coolie said wut the fuck is wrong with frannie, lets not start this horrible singing by frannie, we don't give a shit about lyric, and trambling some wine, so run a check on yo self Irishman you act like a 7 year old. I guess you wanted to digg in the trash and recycyle this bullshit singing of frannies, I guess us REAL BROTHERS, can have this european frannie, the overlord of being black, his credentials? He sleep with dark haitian, now that somehow gives him complete authority, to tell us Real African Americans, how to act, think, say and do. Honestly I aint a fan of Frannie, I never want to meet him at all, I'm sure he feels the same, pp.

At to meet him I could care less what spade he call a spade, and irish7, you sound like a idiot also. Just mho. Pi pi.

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[u][b]EDITOR's NOTE[/b][/u]: [blue]This report was originally written in [u]ALL CAPITAL LETTERING[/u] And thus was edited to normal case text. Writing in [u]ALL CAPITAL LETTERING[/u] In the internet equivalent of shouting and is thus is prohibited on this forum.

In the future, please do not write reports in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING. [i]Thanks! [/i][/blue][/QUOTE]Yo Deep I don't even know why you even responded to dude. The cat Irish posted something that was resolved last year LOL. Every now and then on the board we get RANDOM post first timers that'll never post again and even if they do we pay them no nevermind cus they contribute absolutely NOTHING to the board.

BTW as far as Frannie go you should reconsider in trying to meet him. Although he takes the board to the "twilight zone" with his his post every now and then, Fran has some SERIOUS knowledge about Sosua. TomJackin already has met Fran and says hes cool and provides great intel of the land, so when yaw go down there in a few weeks yaw should hookup with him, have a presidente with a young tenderoni on your lap and as they say, shoot the shit!

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1256555]Yo Deep I don't even know why you even responded to dude. The cat Irish posted something that was resolved last year LOL. Every now and then on the board we get RANDOM post first timers that'll never post again and even if they do we pay them no nevermind cus they contribute absolutely NOTHING to the board.

BTW as far as Frannie go you should reconsider in trying to meet him. Although he takes the board to the "twilight zone" with his his post every now and then, Fran has some SERIOUS knowledge about Sosua. TomJackin already has met Fran and says hes cool and provides great intel of the land, so when yaw go down there in a few weeks yaw should hookup with him, have a presidente with a young tenderoni on your lap and as they say, shoot the shit![/QUOTE]Ok, Coolie "7ft and clmbing" High. Yeah I look forward to shooting the shit, with my man aTomjackin, My plans kind of got push back, so I can only, hangout with Tomjackin one day, he leaves the day after, we arrive, American Airlines, playing with the prices, also I had to, wait on my other homie (Puta Romeo) , but that wednessday, Tomjackin and I, will take no prisioners. LOL! I appreciate the heads up, with this Irish cat! Peace!

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt;1256620]Ok, Coolie "7ft and clmbing" High. Yeah I look forward to shooting the shit, with my man aTomjackin, My plans kind of got push back, so I can only, hangout with Tomjackin one day, he leaves the day after, we arrive, American Airlines, playing with the prices, also I had to, wait on my other homie (Puta Romeo) , but that wednessday, Tomjackin and I, will take no prisioners. LOL! I appreciate the heads up, with this Irish cat! Peace![/QUOTE]Yes, you're right, I should have completely ignored this Irish7 clown, sometimes I don't agree, with the way Frannie says things, but I shouldve just kept silent. So once again Frannie my humble appologies!

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt;1256659]sometimes I don't agree, with the way Frannie says things, but I shouldve just kept silent. So once again Frannie my humble appologies![/QUOTE]Nice! I like this attitude. The mental faculty to re-consider new info and change accordingly. One problem of this board of course is that we make a judgment call without meeting someone. Just by reading what someone else writes and to me, that works to our detriment. Put two people together face to face and they can certainly discover their common-ness despite (if you will) the color / language and other barriers. Throw in a few beers and women to boot. You are bosom buddies!

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1256534]Charles Pooter in person is a very charming, very intelligent guy with an excellent sense of humor. I have been told, you too Frannie can be nice when people meet you in person.[/QUOTE]


Just the way you describe Charles Pooter - Oliver Cromwell idiosyncrasy notwithstanding, LOL, Frannie too IS nice and decent (and generous with his time. The way you are here) with the typical understated humor that only the English are capable of.

On the other hand, thinking of you as a person of Irish heritage, I thought it was ironic that the best literary work in English, is of course considered to be done (Ulysses) by James Joyce -an Irishman. The second person I think of in that list of contributors is George Bernard Shaw - another Irishman whose with and intellectual brilliance is mind boggling.

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt;1256659]Yes, you're right, I should have completely ignored this Irish7 clown, sometimes I don't agree, with the way Frannie says things, but I shouldve just kept silent. So once again Frannie my humble appologies![/QUOTE]No need to apologize for anything.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1255605]The Italian owner of sosua bay hotel (and the other properties I mentioned) was set to lose the Victorian House and the new casino at an auction, because of his legal dispute with the US Army Veteran Art Tarlow. The day before the auction was to occur, Art Tarlow was shot dead in his sosua home. No expensive items were stolen, documents regarding the legal dispute with the Italian owner of Sosua Bay Hotel were taken. The auction appears to have not gone forward and appears the Italian guy still owns the Victorian House and the New Casino as well as the other businesses I previously mentioned. He is the prime suspect in the murder of the US Army Veteran.)[/QUOTE]I believe he still owns all business because these places were promoted to me by hotel management personnel.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1255605]Seems the Italian guy has money for a new large BMW vehicle, but he doesn't pay his workers. I don't know if you or your friends spent money in Classicos, Merengue Bar, Sosua Bay Hotel, Victorian House, After One Disco or the new casino, if you did, you financially supported a guy who probably murdered a US Army Veteran. Maybe you don't care about such things, which would be understandable, seeing the type of person you are. (crime scene photo, Art Tarlow in Sosua)[/QUOTE]There are payroll payment problems in Sosua Bay and Victoria House. I stayed for one day in Sosua Bay a month ago. I went to the buffet and asked the waiter for information about the other restaurants of the hotel. He mentioned about El Sabatino which can be translated as "the Saturday place". El Sabatino was scheduled to be open on Saturday but do not open because employees were in a one day strike because they have not received a dime in weeks.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline; 1256814]I believe he still owns all business because these places were promoted to me by hotel management personnel.

There are payroll payment problems in Sosua Bay and Victoria House. I stayed for one day in Sosua Bay a month ago. I went to the buffet and asked the waiter for information about the other restaurants of the hotel. He mentioned about El Sabatino which can be translated as "the Saturday place". El Sabatino was scheduled to be open on Saturday but do not open because employees were in a one day strike because they have not received a dime in weeks.[/QUOTE]Thanks BoricuaOnline. For quickly sharing an update on the recent murder of this army veteran arising from legal and financial problems at the Sosua Bay and Victoria hotels. This incident also underscores the pervasive, ever expanding " culture of corruption and lawlessness " and deterioting security situation here in the Dominican Republic. Ranked the second most corrupt government in all of Latin America. And currently ranked one of the most corrupt governments in the world. I'm currently organizing a class action lawsuit anonomously against Scotiabank and Progresso Bank here on the North Coast evolving theft by the bank tellers from my Visa credit card. Confirmed by my USAF Federal Credit Union. And also from the experience of one of my friends, a retired police officer also living here on the North Coast. Frankly, I believe this country should be formally declared " Failed State!".

Be careful gentlemen! Over & Out!

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1256792]Just the way you describe Charles Pooter - Oliver Cromwell idiosyncrasy notwithstanding, LOL, Frannie too IS nice and decent (and generous with his time. The way you are here) with the typical understated humor that only the English are capable of.[/QUOTE]BoricuaOnline and Coolie High are two very talented writers.

Sorry, just bumping my message.

[QUOTE=MetcalfKieth; 1256523]Have done lots of research on this site am going to sosua in about five or six weeks when my money comes in. I have decided that I will be staying at the new garden and having long time girls

From passions a differant one each night unless I find one special, any of you members have any recomendations of girls to take home would be great? I would like girls like the girl that interrupts.

Cubadave on youtube she is curvy not too slim no fat, does anybody know her name? She is first on my hit list. Also can anybody tell me is the road to passions closed on the evenings and how.

Far is passions from new garden as I have to consider my disability. Many thanks everyone.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mountain Lion; 1257079]Thanks BoricuaOnline. For quickly sharing an update on the recent murder of this army veteran arising from legal and financial problems at the Sosua Bay and Victoria hotels. This incident also underscores the pervasive, ever expanding " culture of corruption and lawlessness " and deterioting security situation here in the Dominican Republic. Ranked the second most corrupt government in all of Latin America. And currently ranked one of the most corrupt governments in the world. I'm currently organizing a class action lawsuit anonomously against Scotiabank and Progresso Bank here on the North Coast evolving theft by the bank tellers from my Visa credit card. Confirmed by my USAF Federal Credit Union. And also from the experience of one of my friends, a retired police officer also living here on the North Coast. Frankly, I believe this country should be formally declared " Failed State!". Be careful gentlemen! Over & Out!

The Mountain Lion![/QUOTE]Ok guys, so now the pile of bad press about the Sosua Bay Resort is getting really tall. I have a reservation for 6 days in a couple weeks, and I am a little concerned now. Is the service and conditions really so bad? Is it bad enuff to lose some deposit money over to cancel and rebook somewhere else? I got it as All-incluisve for $60 a night, and you can't beat that with a stick folks. I was happy counting up all the extra chicas I was going to get with all the money I was going to save, but I won't jeopardize the overall comfort of my trip for a couple hundred bucks, so please guys. Anyone who has been there in the last 2 weeks. Give me the Low-down.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1257138]Ok guys, so now the pile of bad press about the Sosua Bay Resort is getting really tall. I have a reservation for 6 days in a couple weeks, and I am a little concerned now. Is the service and conditions really so bad? Is it bad enuff to lose some deposit money over to cancel and rebook somewhere else? I got it as All-incluisve for $60 a night, and you can't beat that with a stick folks. I was happy counting up all the extra chicas I was going to get with all the money I was going to save, but I won't jeopardize the overall comfort of my trip for a couple hundred bucks, so please guys. Anyone who has been there in the last 2 weeks. Give me the Low-down.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Just about every all inclusive hotel that I know of in DR is not multiple chica friendly for free (a fee for each guest is required). From what I read, Sosua Bay Hotel has a monger section (chica friendly) that is not all inclusive and it has an all inclusive section that probably is not chica friendly for free for multiple chicas.

If you pay for two people at an all inclusive hotel, you could bring in one chica with you (you and the chica would be 2 guests). Double occupancy room rates at all inclusive hotels, are usually more than single occupancy rates. Multiple chicas being brought into an all inclusive hotel would require you to pay additional money, to cover the food and drink each of the chicas will consume at the hotel.

You could stay alone at an all inclusive hotel and rent a second place to use for sex. Rockys and Hotel Orchidee may have rooms from around $25US. AMHSA Casa Marina Beach / Reef is a large all inclusive hotel close to everything in Sosua. Casa Marina Beach / Reef is not an expensive all inclusive hotel; [url]http://www.amhsamarina.com/casa-marina-reef-en?lang=en-GB[/url] (there is an abandoned AMHSA hotel near playa chiquita in Sosua).

Sosua Bay Hotel, the last time I stayed there, only served Brahma beer (no presidente beer in the all inclusive section). I won't drink Brahma beer (Quisqueya is another Dominican beer I won't drink).

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1257138]Ok guys, so now the pile of bad press about the Sosua Bay Resort is getting really tall. I have a reservation for 6 days in a couple weeks, and I am a little concerned now. Is the service and conditions really so bad? Is it bad enuff to lose some deposit money over to cancel and rebook somewhere else? I got it as All-incluisve for $60 a night, and you can't beat that with a stick folks. I was happy counting up all the extra chicas I was going to get with all the money I was going to save, but I won't jeopardize the overall comfort of my trip for a couple hundred bucks, so please guys. Anyone who has been there in the last 2 weeks. Give me the Low-down.

Thanks![/QUOTE]I have not heard of any guests at Sosua Bay Hotel being murdered by management, so you will probably be OK. Usually Cosa Nostra provides its guests with protection. You will have a great chance to report from the scene of the action (if you get out alive.) I was in Sosua for a short while last week and did not witness any killings or see any sawdust on the sidewalk. The price looks very reasonable-they have made you an offer you can't refuse. Don't ask for your deposit back as you may be taking a chance. I recently moved from one apartment to another, and they didn't return my deposit, but they offered me free lifetime use of their excellent pool and gym instead, which I was very happy about. DR is a different world. Cash is king.

[QUOTE=Azazel42;1257138]I got it as All-incluisve for $60 a night, and you can't beat that with a stick folks. I was happy counting up all the extra chicas I was going to get with all the money I was going to save, but I won't jeopardize the overall comfort of my trip for a couple hundred bucks[/QUOTE]Maybe Mr. E, BO, or AH2 can chime in, BUT I think you are booked on the wrong side of the hotel. If I am not mistaken you cannot take chicas back to your room if you are staying in the all-inclusive side of the hotel.

[QUOTE=MetcalfKieth; 1256523]I have decided that I will be staying at the new garden and having long time girls

From passions a differant one each night unless I find one special, any of you members have any recomendations of girls to take home would be great? I would like girls like the girl that interrupts.

Cubadave on youtube she is curvy not too slim no fat, does anybody know her name? She is first on my hit list. Also can anybody tell me is the road to passions closed on the evenings and how.

Far is passions from new garden as I have to consider my disability. Many thanks everyone.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=MetcalfKieth;1257137]Sorry, just bumping my message.[/QUOTE]If you are looking for the "fishbowl" type environment then I don't know why you ignored my advice of staying at Blackbeard's in Puerto Plata. Essentially the same thing except you would be living on the premise and the girls come to you instead of you trying to travel get to the girls; and there is no fee to take chicas to your room (no "Salida") other than the 1500 for short time or 3000 for all night that you would pay directly to the chica AFTER the two of you are finish.

But since you asked about La Passions, I'll address that. It certainly is not within walking distance from New Garden and you would have to take a motochonocho to and from La Passions each time you wanted to go/leave. I think you said you are either in a wheelchair and/or on crutches, and if it is the former I do not know how a motochonchista will deal with your wheel chair as there is certainly no room for it on his bike. Last time I was in Sosua I saw a one-legged chica coming down the stairs from Classico's on crutches and I am 100% sure one of her main modes of transportation is a motochoncho, so I don't think it would be a problem for you. But you also stated that you will be taking a chica out of La Passions every night, so it is more than likely you would need two motos because there will not be room for you, her, and your crutches on just one motochoncho.

(Before anyone decides to flame me, the original poster requested that his disability be taken into consideration)

Also, have you looked at the prices for taking chicas out of La Passions? Doing this everyday + the motos can add up to a hefty price tag. But if money is not an issue then go nuts!

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1257138]Ok guys, so now the pile of bad press about the Sosua Bay Resort is getting really tall. I have a reservation for 6 days in a couple weeks, and I am a little concerned now. Is the service and conditions really so bad? Is it bad enuff to lose some deposit money over to cancel and rebook somewhere else? I got it as All-incluisve for $60 a night, and you can't beat that with a stick folks. I was happy counting up all the extra chicas I was going to get with all the money I was going to save, but I won't jeopardize the overall comfort of my trip for a couple hundred bucks, so please guys. Anyone who has been there in the last 2 weeks. Give me the Low-down.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Sosua Bay was more than ok for the $57 all inclusive I paid a month ago. My room was nice with a great sea view but the hotel can't compare to major all inclusive hotel in terms of facilities. The food was the best I had in Sosua. Beer and sodas are bottled so are of better quality and always ice cold. The all inclusive area is not guest friendly so you have to pay for short term hotel to do your business. You will not have major problems at the hotel but it will not be a surprise if a restaurant service or activity on schedule is cancelled.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1257187]Maybe Mr. E, BO, or AH2 can chime in, BUT I think you are booked on the wrong side of the hotel. If I am not mistaken you cannot take chicas back to your room if you are staying in the all-inclusive side of the hotel.[/QUOTE]Yep, you can't take chicas to your room or the all inclusive areas of the hotel. There is a guest friendly building in Sosua Bay that cost $50 per night with no access to all inclusive features. Sosua Bay is just a couple of minutes walk from the strip.

[QUOTE=Azazel42;1257138]Ok guys, so now the pile of bad press about the Sosua Bay Resort is getting really tall. Thanks![/QUOTE]I have a confession to make, I stabbed a girl, deep inside, LOL in my Sosua Bay room. She had the hotel all inclusive wrist with her so she entered with no problem. I believe the price is for either single or double so if you have a favorite chica you can check her in, have sex with her and then throw him to the sea as Captain Stabbin and crew always do.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1257194]I do not know how a motochonchista will deal with your wheel chair[/QUOTE]I have sometimes seen guys in wheelchairs being towed behind motos in Puerto Plata. But it may be that is a skill that needs practice and they always use the same motoconchista? Best of luck with your trip. I agree that Barba Negra might have been a safer bet, but good luck anyway.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1257207]I have a confession to make, I stabbed a girl, deep inside, LOL in my Sosua Bay room. She had the hotel all inclusive wrist with her so she entered with no problem. I believe the price is for either single or double so if you have a favorite chica you can check her in, have sex with her and then throw him to the sea as Captain Stabbin and crew always do.[/QUOTE]Hey guys, so perhaps I have a misconception. I was told that I was staying in the Chica friendly wing, but I was paying for all inclusive for myself (single occu) for $60. If I wanted to bring girls to the all inclusive sections, I could pay for my guest's all inclusive for $25 per day. Was I misinformed. Did I misunderstand someone. Any feedback is appreciated. I think I need to clarify. I was never concerned about getting killed or injured in Sosua. I don't know if those rumors of the owner killing the servicemen is true or not, but regardless that doesn't concern me nor detour me. So to clarify. The son of Cubans, born and raised in Miami, well traveled, and multilingual. This Cubanito is the LAST person that would be intimidated by Sosua. In fact, it's prob wonderland compared to overtown and Little Haiti here. LOL. So@BoricuaOnline (Puertoro comemierda al fin) your barking up the wrong tree asere. I have never been to DR, but I know tonz of them here and have had many DR girlfriends. So you see I may have never been, but I was BORN with an advantage that you gringos could never sniff. Please excuse the smug tone, but I believe on telling it like it is, and here in MIA we don't react well to hazing. We just crack skullz and ask questions later.

P. S.

I know the Reality Kings personally (Jose and Kurt) since they started as the Bang Bros. With Bang Bus and 8th street Latinas. Jose is Cuban and born and raised here in Miami like me. My good friend is their webmaster, and just to give you a heads up. All their images have digital signatures that identify themselves as theirs, and they run a web sweep looking for assholes stealing their images once a week. I suggest you not post their content here or any other site without their consent, because I gurantee you. THEY WILL FIND IT!

Thanks,

Azazel

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1257371]P. S.

I know the Reality Kings personally (Jose and Kurt) since they started as the Bang Bros. With Bang Bus and 8th street Latinas. Jose is Cuban and born and raised here in Miami like me. My good friend is their webmaster, and just to give you a heads up. All their images have digital signatures that identify themselves as theirs, and they run a web sweep looking for assholes stealing their images once a week. I [b]suggest[/b] You not post their content here or any other site without their consent, because I gurantee you. THEY WILL FIND IT!

Thanks,

Azazel[/QUOTE]Since this portion of your response was obviously geared towards BoriquaOnline, who happens to be a senior member, I [b]suggest[/b] you show a little more respect. Especially since it is you who are the newbie entering into our domain asking for help and information. No need to get your panties in a bunch because of a harmless screenshot that was posted. I doubt it will harm your "good friend's" bottom line since no one in their right mind would pay for porn to begin with in this day and age when it is abundantly free.

Good luck with your trip. Trust me when I say you'll be the only guy in town paying $25 every time you want to bring a chica to your room.

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1257371]Hey guys, so perhaps I have a misconception. I was told that I was staying in the Chica friendly wing, but I was paying for all inclusive for myself (single occu) for $60. If I wanted to bring girls to the all inclusive sections, I could pay for my guest's all inclusive for $25 per day. Was I misinformed. Did I misunderstand someone. Any feedback is appreciated. I think I need to clarify. I was never concerned about getting killed or injured in Sosua. I don't know if those rumors of the owner killing the servicemen is true or not, but regardless that doesn't concern me nor detour me. So to clarify. The son of Cubans, born and raised in Miami, well traveled, and multilingual. This Cubanito is the LAST person that would be intimidated by Sosua. In fact, it's prob wonderland compared to overtown and Little Haiti here. LOL. [email]So@BoricuaOnline[/email] (Puertoro comemierda al fin) your barking up the wrong tree asere. I have never been to DR, but I know tonz of them here and have had many DR girlfriends. So you see I may have never been, but I was BORN with an advantage that you gringos could never sniff. Please excuse the smug tone, but I believe on telling it like it is, and here in MIA we don't react well to hazing. We just crack skullz and ask questions later.

P. S.

I know the Reality Kings personally (Jose and Kurt) since they started as the Bang Bros. With Bang Bus and 8th street Latinas. Jose is Cuban and born and raised here in Miami like me. My good friend is their webmaster, and just to give you a heads up. All their images have digital signatures that identify themselves as theirs, and they run a web sweep looking for assholes stealing their images once a week. I suggest you not post their content here or any other site without their consent, because I gurantee you. THEY WILL FIND IT!

Thanks,

Azazel[/QUOTE]I am glad you chose Sosua, you will fit right in. Lots of people just like you, seem to go to Sosua. Some Cubans seem to believe they are superior. Wannabe Tony Montana.

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1257371]Hey guys, so perhaps I have a misconception. I was told that I was staying in the Chica friendly wing, but I was paying for all inclusive for myself (single occu) for $60. If I wanted to bring girls to the all inclusive sections, I could pay for my guest's all inclusive for $25 per day. Was I misinformed. Did I misunderstand someone. Any feedback is appreciated. I think I need to clarify. I was never concerned about getting killed or injured in Sosua. I don't know if those rumors of the owner killing the servicemen is true or not, but regardless that doesn't concern me nor detour me. So to clarify. The son of Cubans, born and raised in Miami, well traveled, and multilingual. This Cubanito is the LAST person that would be intimidated by Sosua. In fact, it's prob wonderland compared to overtown and Little Haiti here. LOL. [email]So@BoricuaOnline[/email] (Puertoro comemierda al fin) your barking up the wrong tree asere. I have never been to DR, but I know tonz of them here and have had many DR girlfriends. So you see I may have never been, but I was BORN with an advantage that you gringos could never sniff. Please excuse the smug tone, but I believe on telling it like it is, and here in MIA we don't react well to hazing. We just crack skullz and ask questions later.

P. S.

I know the Reality Kings personally (Jose and Kurt) since they started as the Bang Bros. With Bang Bus and 8th street Latinas. Jose is Cuban and born and raised here in Miami like me. My good friend is their webmaster, and just to give you a heads up. All their images have digital signatures that identify themselves as theirs, and they run a web sweep looking for assholes stealing their images once a week. I suggest you not post their content here or any other site without their consent, because I gurantee you. THEY WILL FIND IT!

Thanks,

Azazel[/QUOTE]Seems you speak Spanish, why not spend 50 cents and call the hotel and have your questions answered by the hotel.

[QUOTE=Azazel42;1257371]Please excuse the smug tone, but I believe on telling it like it is, and here in MIA we don't react well to hazing. We just crack skullz and ask questions later.[/QUOTE]When I worked in a maximum security prison in Florida there were a lot of guys there who were members of the Latin Kings. Sometimes they regretted not asking questions first as a more considered approach to handling personal affronts would have helped them stay out of prison. I am sure you will have a fine time in Sosua. Most people do.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1257131]BoricuaOnline and Coolie High are two very talented writers.[/QUOTE]You are right. I thought Boricuaonline had a witty "stabbing and murderously funny" story written.but evidently things get read in many different ways so he got called a "piece of Puerto Rican shit" by another seeker of info, I thought almost without provocation.

Thank you for your reply, I was going to go to blackbeards but was told that there is not much to do there, I considered passions as money is no object, I want high quality girls as I have never had one in my life, I also understand that the girls at passions are tested every 3 months for infections, I do have a wheelchair but I only use it for long distances I can use my crutches for a few hundred yards and can also get upstairs, can you tell me if there are any girl friendly hotels near passions, many thanks again.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1257194]If you are looking for the "fishbowl" type environment then I don't know why you ignored my advice of staying at Blackbeard's in Puerto Plata. Essentially the same thing except you would be living on the premise and the girls come to you instead of you trying to travel get to the girls; and there is no fee to take chicas to your room (no "Salida") other than the 1500 for short time or 3000 for all night that you would pay directly to the chica AFTER the two of you are finish.

But since you asked about La Passions, I'll address that. It certainly is not within walking distance from New Garden and you would have to take a motochonocho to and from La Passions each time you wanted to go / leave. I think you said you are either in a wheelchair and / or on crutches, and if it is the former I do not know how a motochonchista will deal with your wheel chair as there is certainly no room for it on his bike. Last time I was in Sosua I saw a one-legged chica coming down the stairs from Classico's on crutches and I am 100% sure one of her main modes of transportation is a motochoncho, so I don't think it would be a problem for you. But you also stated that you will be taking a chica out of La Passions every night, so it is more than likely you would need two motos because there will not be room for you, her, and your crutches on just one motochoncho.

(Before anyone decides to flame me, the original poster requested that his disability be taken into consideration)

Also, have you looked at the prices for taking chicas out of La Passions? Doing this everyday + the motos can add up to a hefty price tag. But if money is not an issue then go nuts![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MetcalfKieth;1257434]Thank you for your reply, I was going to go to blackbeards but was told that there is not much to do there, I considered passions as money is no object, I want high quality girls as I have never had one in my life, I also understand that the girls at passions are tested every 3 months for infections, I do have a wheelchair but I only use it for long distances I can use my crutches for a few hundred yards and can also get upstairs, can you tell me if there are any girl friendly hotels near passions, many thanks again.[/QUOTE]There is the motel, Hotel Colibri, nice place, big pool, and girl friendly

[QUOTE=Riky Rapido;1257479]There is the motel, Hotel Colibri, nice place, big pool, and girl friendly[/QUOTE]Indeed. There is also D'Piero which is first choice for many mongers and which backs onto Passions (though you would have to walk round the block to enter, so effectively no nearer than Colibri).

If can walk for "a few hundred yards" you could actually walk from the New Garden to Passions but I would not recommend it as the sidewalks are extremely uneven and the locals are inconsiderate when it comes to obstructing them.

Another option would be Whitebeards where everything is on ground-floor level and Randall, the manager, would look after you like a brother. Similar to Blackbeards but nicer environment and cheaper, though nowhere near the number of onsite chicas. But as money is no object to you, you could import them from Cristal and/or Passions.

Gentlemen,

You know what. The more I read my post, the more I am ashamed of it. I let my emotions from a disagreement with my travel buddies (and few other things) sour my puss while I read and responded to posts. I believe I owe everybody here and especially BoricuaOnline, Jaosousa and any or all Boricuas in this forum an apology. I refuse to perpetuate the macho bullshit persona that has been instilled in me from youth, but often find myself slipping back into it when agitated. I agree the joke was just that. A joke. I totally blew it out of proportion and for that I apologize. I am thankful for everyone's input, and I understand if you want to hold my outburst against me. I just propose to you guys a question of ever being in a situation where you've heard (or in this case read) your own words after spoken, and hardly recognized them as your own and in heinsight's 20/20 wish you would have never uttered them. That's me right now; so I will take my lumps like a man and expect the cold shoulder, but regardless I will pay the knowledge already given to me forward by posting pics and reports of my trip as promised. You can read them or not, the choice is yours. Frannie and Jaosousa let me know when I can buy ya a Presidente, and show you just how big these Cuban, Tony Montana balls are. LOL. Savepro, you totally misunderstood me about the $25. They aren't to allow the girls in, its to get them a band for the food and drink. As far as the Reality Kings go; SOMEBODY is paying for porn, because those guys are frickin rolling in money and pussy, let me tell you. LOL Again, my snipe was unnecessary. My bad. It's nice to see that you guys stick up for each other in such an unchivalrous age, and maybe one day when I am finished taking my foot out of my mouth. You guys might see me worthy of a spot at your round table. Regardless, thanks alot for all the banter, and I have more than enuff info here already guys.

Humbly,

Azazel

[quote=tempoecorto;1257430]you are right. i thought boricuaonline had a witty "stabbing and murderously funny" story written.but evidently things get read in many different ways so he got called a "piece of puerto rican shit" by another seeker of info, i thought almost without provocation.[/quote]tempoecorto, maybe you need to anty up an extra $20 or something to your chica's western union fund for better spanish lessons, because she aint doing ya justice brother. the term " comemierda " means literally= shit-eater. come =eat or to eat- mierda= shit. a more coversational translation would be dumbass, asshole, or idiot. since eating your own [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113][CodeWord113][/url] is not such an intelligent thing to do, it has an inference to stupidity or lack of inteligence. now " pedaso de mierda " means piece of shit. pedaso= piece-de= of- mierda= shit. what i said to him was " just a dumbass purto rican in the end " al fin = the end. like i am sure you have seen in many foreign films at " the end " = " fin ". this been spanish 101 from a low life, tony montana cuban. lmfaoo

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1257393]I am glad you chose Sosua, you will fit right in. Lots of people just like you, seem to go to Sosua. Some Cubans seem to believe they are superior. Wannabe Tony Montana.[/QUOTE]Most of the Cubans here are very hard working, humble nice people. Hang out at any greasy spoon window buy a colada and make some instant friends that will talk about anything, lol. Where else in the world can you do that? Yes some of them do have an elitist attitude but this is a small minority but us locals know better and laugh it off.

The ass-hole, douchebag, tony montana wannabes that you describe are mostly just contained umongst the younger generation.

[QUOTE=MetcalfKieth; 1256523]From passions a differant one each night unless I find one special, any of you members have any recomendations of girls to take home would be great? I would like girls like the girl that interrupts.

You should aks for Lulu, she will fuck your brains out, had a very good session with her last night, she used to work at Black Beards before.

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1257371]We just crack skullz and ask questions later.

Too bad you are not dominican, you would perfectly fit into the ranks of La Policia Nacional here.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1257503]Most of the Cubans here are very hard working, humble nice people. Hang out at any greasy spoon window buy a colada and make some instant friends that will talk about anything, LOL. Where else in the world can you do that? Yes some of them do have an elitist attitude but this is a small minority but us locals know better and laugh it off.

The ass-hole, douchebag, tony montana wannabes that you describe are mostly just contained umongst the younger generation.[/QUOTE]Well young people usually tend to be hot-headed everywhere. In this country, some join the marine corps or the armed forces...known many at VA - that way at least they have a way to vent out. But does anyone remember "West-side Story" and the Puerto Rican gangs? An older Japanese friend of mine told me about this movie first time -20 years back. He was absolutely in love with Natalie Wood. And I thought the movie was a good depiction of displaced people who are trying to figure out their identity in a new land and of course what dance and music! Saturday Night Fever is also another interesting example of the Italian emigres.

Cubans have much to be proud of. Their literature, opera music, poetry and even ballet dance schools were well known. Even today, their literacy rates (also in Cuba) is VERY high. I was struck by one thing: as the workers roll their cigars in factories, there is always a reader, who regale people by reading. Books, newspapers. In short the written word. All these do make a difference over a long period of time. I would ascribe this "preparation" why Cubans in Miami have done so well. Other than Gloria Estefan or Andy Garcia, the number of professionals in that community is very high. I was waiting to change plane in Miami and bumped into a woman who is of Cuban heritage and is an attorney -lovely person!

By the way, speaking of Tony Montana, I think if any of you have had the misfortune of getting close to the Russian mafioso (and some East European and Albanian kinds) , you would think Tony Montana was an angel! Frannie was mentioning yesterday Mario Puzo's famous line. Make an offer that one cannot refuse. The new kinds do not make an offer. Full disclosure. LOL. I do not know any and do not want to know any.

I stayed there in January and loved it. I liked that European and wealthy Dominican couples stayed there too. I had stayed at New Garden and Terra Linda in previous trips. I enjoyed the peace and quiet. Also, I liked that I had a chance to walk around more. La Passions is about 100 yards away. There is a place right across the street where girls are available. A cool black guy, Freddie, owns the place and runs the girls. It is obvious that he is screwing all of them. It is like watching a real life soap opera. The girls are not allowed to approach you, but they are available. Heck, most in girl in town is available.

Two doors down from Freddy's is another place where girls are available. It is run by an Italian guy. Both of these places have a more local feel and good vibe as long term European visitors frequent them.

On nights when I had too much to drink and got a girl down on the strip, I could get a ride in a car from the taxi stand back to the hotel for 200 pesos. It was money well spent.

Here is my best story to explain how things work in Sosua. When I would escort a girl out of the hotel late in the evening after some serious fun, I would get discreet cat calls from across the street at Freddie's. The girls at the bar were totally cool but would quiz me why I just had sex with another hot girl. They would complain that they were really hot too and wanted to party with me (both of which were true). I would promise to "make it up to them" the next day. What a great problem to have? Where else can you have a new hot girl hit on you while the last one is still in sight?

I really like hitting the La Passions earlier in the day (5 PM) , when the girls are "fresh." While banging a girl on the premises is much more expensive, you need not worry about her hitting on you later that night. If you meet up with a girl during the day and treat her like a human being, she is going to aggressively pursue you if she sees you at night.

While I just said I do not like meeting girls during the day, here is my main technique when I out in the evening down on the strip. I like chatting up the girls. I do not mind buying a drink or two to get to know a girl better. I always tell them that I am tired and not looking to score that night which is a blatant lie. However it slows the girls down. That way I can close the deal for the evening if I wish. While we are drinking our drink, I always ask them if it is ok to call them the next day. I explain what I am willing to pay for daytime service, and they always give you their phone number. Whenever I start to fell like I want some companionship during the day (and not easy fun of La Passions) , I start down the list from the night before. Most of the girls remember me, and I tell them what I am offering plus scooter fare to my place. If they agree, I tell them they have an hour to get there or I am moving on to another girl. These girls are flakes, so if they are not there within the hour they are not coming. I like the feeling of having chance determine what sweetie I am going to get for daytime service. Also, I think it helps my game back home when I refuse to get bogged down by any single girl.

Sosua is more expensive than before and the girls are more jaded. However, I have found that act of kindness is returned several times over. Lastly, tip a bit when you go out. If you cannot afford a tip, then you need to keep your broke ass at home. Not only is it good Karma, you never know who is going to save your ass by pointing a hustler in a different direction or make sure your food order is not screwed up.

Sorry for my wandering thoughts, but this is my 2 cents worth of advice.

Anyone heard of or been to Gents Resort? Please report.

Thanks

[QUOTE=MetcalfKieth;1257434]can you tell me if there are any girl friendly hotels near passions, many thanks again.[/QUOTE]I think Hotel Europa will be your best bet if you are trying to stay closer to La Passions. Many members have said the place has gone through renovations and is better than before. Ask Mr. Enternational because I think he has stayed there recently. I also hope I have the Europa correct as far as location. To other Senior members, this is the place that has the sea-greenish colored paint job on the outside of it, correct? I've walked from New Garden to La Passions once and I believe I passed the Europa on the way there. Also think it had a wooden bar in the front outside the hotel.

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1257371]In fact, it's prob wonderland compared to overtown and Little Haiti here. LOL. [email]So@BoricuaOnline[/email] (Puertoro comemierda al fin) your barking up the wrong tree asere. I have never been to DR, but I know tonz of them here and have had many DR girlfriends. So you see I may have never been, but I was BORN with an advantage that you gringos could never sniff. Please excuse the smug tone, but I believe on telling it like it is, and here in MIA we don't react well to hazing. We just crack skullz and ask questions later.

P. S.

I know the Reality Kings personally (Jose and Kurt) since they started as the Bang Bros. With Bang Bus and 8th street Latinas. Jose is Cuban and born and raised here in Miami like me. My good friend is their webmaster, and just to give you a heads up. All their images have digital signatures that identify themselves as theirs, and they run a web sweep looking for assholes stealing their images once a week. I suggest you not post their content here or any other site without their consent, because I gurantee you. THEY WILL FIND IT!

Thanks,

Azazel[/QUOTE]I do not understand why I am a "Puertoro comemierda". The people from this forum who have met me in person can attest that I am the nicest person in this world. Or the second nicest, maybe the third or fourth. I sometimes use humor or parody to express an idea. I believe the confussion about me started in post 11542 when Mountain Lion wrongly posted the following:

"Thanks BoricuaOnline. For quickly sharing an update on the recent murder of this army veteran arising from legal and financial problems at the Sosua Bay and Victoria hotels."

I was not the one who informed about the situation of Sosua Bay owner which I do not know who he is and did nit know about him being a murder suspect. I just quoted a member about the information he provided an gave an update of the operational status of the Sosua Bay hotel, because I stayed there in February for a day. The people who read my travel report know that I posted that I paid just $57 for a double all inclusive thanks to an Expedia deal. The room was nice, large with the quality and confort most major hotel rooms have. The food was the best I had in Sosua. Their burgers are tasty, I like they serve bottled beers instead draft. But you can't get a chica inside if you are in the all inclusive area unless you pay extra for her, buy hey, I just stayed there one day and got lucky to find a pretty chica with a Sosua Bay all inclusive wrist band so I do not have to pay extra for her. You are going to spend almost a week in an all inclusive in a town with dozens of guest friendly hotels and hundreds of cute chicas. Chicas that are mostly pros and not worth to have them with you for an all day. That is why I posted a Captain Stabbin parody, he was popular among my friends because once he finished fucking a girl he throw the girl out of the boat. There are hundreds of cute chicas in Sosua who lives there or travel from nearby towns so once you finish with one girl you are going to want to throw your girl away and go for the next chica. That is why I consider staying at Sosua Bay for long term if you want to hunt for lot of chicas is not the best idea but if you do not mind paying $25 extra per chica then there is no problem.

I enjoyed Sosua a lot, I was little scared at first because reading a lot of stories about the place being called sosower but the place is lot of times cleaner and nicer than lets say, Boca Chica. I never felt threatened, the people was nice with me and no vendor harassed me.

The Captain Stabbin pic I posted was found in Google Search Pictures, there are thousands there free, I did not stole the pic from their paysite. I do not get economic benefit by posting it here.

If you get offended by my post it was not my intention to do so.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1257562]The food was the best I had in Sosua. Their burgers are tasty,[/QUOTE]

Big Statement, I never had an Class "A" Burger in Sosua and their usually packed with tons of unknown spices. maybe adobo and FORGET ABOUT finding Heinz Ketchup!! I bring my own I swear to god!! jajaj lol. I heard the new bbq spot on the beach is world class though! Must try it out!!!

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1257562]I like they serve bottled beers instead draft.[/QUOTE]

Thats funny because I've never even seen beer on tap in Sosua even if it was offered. MAYBE at some German spots up on the Main Road!

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1257562]The people was nice with me and no vendor harassed me.[/QUOTE]

NOW THIS I DON'T BELIEVE! Jajajaja LOL

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1257568]Big Statement, I never had an Class "A" Burger in Sosua and their usually packed with tons of unknown spices. Maybe adobo and FORGET ABOUT finding Heinz Ketchup! I bring my own I swear to god! Jajaj LOL. I heard the new bbq spot on the beach is world class though! Must try it out!

Thats funny because I've never even seen beer on tap in Sosua even if it was offered. MAYBE at some German spots up on the Main Road!

NOW THIS I DON'T BELIEVE! Jajajaja LOL[/QUOTE]Test123. I ahve written 2 posts that have not been posted on the board, just testing

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1257568]Big Statement, I never had an Class "A" Burger in Sosua and their usually packed with tons of unknown spices. Maybe adobo and FORGET ABOUT finding Heinz Ketchup! I bring my own I swear to god! Jajaj LOL. I heard the new bbq spot on the beach is world class though! Must try it out!

Thats funny because I've never even seen beer on tap in Sosua even if it was offered. MAYBE at some German spots up on the Main Road!

NOW THIS I DON'T BELIEVE! Jajajaja LOL[/QUOTE]Neither do I but I walked the public beach from east to west and then back twice and I walked the streets lot of times and no vendor followed me offering merchandise or services. I guess I was lucky, LOL. Another thing that surprised me about Sosua is that there were no Blackouts during my stay. About the beer I was comparing Sosua Bay with other all inclusives were draft beer is the norm.

[QUOTE=MetcalfKieth;1257434]Thank you for your reply, I was going to go to blackbeards but was told that there is not much to do there, I considered passions as money is no object, I want high quality girls as I have never had one in my life, I also understand that the girls at passions are tested every 3 months for infections, I do have a wheelchair but I only use it for long distances I can use my crutches for a few hundred yards and can also get upstairs, can you tell me if there are any girl friendly hotels near passions, many thanks again.[/QUOTE]You made a wise choice. You have to go with your heart and choose what feels right for you, no point in second guessing. Peter, the owner will be a happy man if you picked a girl out of La Passions every night (though the place has grown a lot and he may not be so readily available, he will definitely talk to you if you ask for him). Say Hi to him and let him know your intentions, the girls will be impressed if they see you talking to peter (just a little trick). Tell him you are in I SOC, ISG, bla bla. Also join La Passion Yahoo group to see the photo gallery of all current girls (if you haven't already done so). http://*************************LaPassionMassageSosua/

I don't know Colibri, its new and you can try it out. Otherwise Europa is ok, and there is also club Residencial a few doors away and closer to La Passion, its nicer,. [url]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g317146-d1159732-Reviews-Club_Residencial-Sosua_Dominican_Republic.html.[/url]. Its easier to get girls in and out at Europa, Residencial has some restrictions as to one girl at a time and they have to be out by a certain time in the morning.

My advice is you want to contact both Europa and Residencial to make sure ground floor accommodation is available and book it as that is important to you. Europa, you don't have to prepay (also the same for New Garden and Terra Linda) , I don't know about Residencial but should be the same. Just email conf. works. So, I would book at both places and then choose. wink! wink!

If you decide to stay or visit the Residencial restaurant / bar facing the street, say Hi to my "girlfriend" (LOL) that works the bar in the evenings. Now, this one is a real non pro or remotely possible semi pro. I worked a little on her, she invited me to her place for lunch at Charamaicos but I never made it, she was a lot cuter years ago. Anyone has any experiences with her, please do chime in.

A day or two after you break in and get a little used to the place, you will be able to check out Classicos, Rumba and other bars just up the road within a mile or so.

[QUOTE=Encoreom; 1257522]Anyone heard of or been to Gents Resort? Please report.

Thanks[/QUOTE]What do you mean by Gents Resort? Have you read the forum? You sound clueless.

I am looking for Hilbillly's really good post about preachers, which this DR forum has no lack of. My policy is live and let live. I never like to force an idea or policy on any one, read all you can and explore for yourself.

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1257493]Gentlemen,

You know what. The more I read my post, the more I am ashamed of it. I let my emotions from a disagreement with my travel buddies (and few other things) sour my puss while I read and responded to posts. I believe I owe everybody here and especially BoricuaOnline, Jaosousa and any or all Boricuas in this forum an apology. I refuse to perpetuate the macho bullshit persona that has been instilled in me from youth, but often find myself slipping back into it when agitated. I agree the joke was just that. A joke. I totally blew it out of proportion and for that I apologize. I am thankful for everyone's input, and I understand if you want to hold my outburst against me. I just propose to you guys a question of ever being in a situation where you've heard (or in this case read) your own words after spoken, and hardly recognized them as your own and in heinsight's 20/20 wish you would have never uttered them. That's me right now; so I will take my lumps like a man and expect the cold shoulder, but regardless I will pay the knowledge already given to me forward by posting pics and reports of my trip as promised. You can read them or not, the choice is yours. Frannie and Jaosousa let me know when I can buy ya a Presidente, and show you just how big these Cuban, Tony Montana balls are. LOL. Savepro, you totally misunderstood me about the $25. They aren't to allow the girls in, its to get them a band for the food and drink. As far as the Reality Kings go; SOMEBODY is paying for porn, because those guys are frickin rolling in money and pussy, let me tell you. LOL Again, my snipe was unnecessary. My bad. It's nice to see that you guys stick up for each other in such an unchivalrous age, and maybe one day when I am finished taking my foot out of my mouth. You guys might see me worthy of a spot at your round table. Regardless, thanks alot for all the banter, and I have more than enuff info here already guys.

Humbly,

Azazel[/QUOTE]I too let my emotions, run away with me, and like you once I read it back, I wanted to puke"

And great people on this board, gave me difference point of views, and it allowed me to re opadjust my thinking. I thank Cooley High and Tom jackin for setting me straight. We can't right all percieved wrong, on this board, sometimes silence is golden, furthernore I really appreciated Frannie, choosing to take the highroad, and not buy in to my bullshit post, he kindly reminded me I had nothing to appologize for, when in fact I did. My new goal is to keep my BIG MOUTH SHUT. And like Mr Jackson, once referred to another person in another forum, to not have diarrhea of the keyboard, and spurt out useless info, so you and I can grow together, with the valueble info the board have to offer.

Peace keep yo headup my brother!

[QUOTE=Beagle0030;1257521]I Lastly, tip a bit when you go out. If you cannot afford a tip, then you need to keep your broke ass at home. Not only is it good Karma, you never know who is going to save your ass by pointing a hustler in a different direction or make sure your food order is not screwed up.[/QUOTE]This point is highly debatable. Actually, since "tipping" is considered a Western thing, it is WE who are view as suckers for tipping. Has nothing to do with being able to "afford a tip". I don't think the Euros tip at all. I also believe that a few veteran mongers have pointed out that there a numerous establishments in the DR (and Sosua) where the "tip" is already padded into your bill, and you would not catch it if you did not know what to look for.

Just about any forum you visit there are mongers asking (begging) American newbies not to tip because it inflates the pricing structure. In some places, such as Colombia, it is not advisable to tip for safety reasons (I'm guessing that if you can "afford" to pay over the amount of your meal's original costs you are considered to be rich; which in turn could set you up as a possible candidate for "Paseo Millonario", which is definitely not a good thing).

[QUOTE=MetcalfKieth;1257434]Thank you for your reply, I was going to go to blackbeards but was told that there is not much to do there, I considered passions as money is no object, I want high quality girls as I have never had one in my life,[/QUOTE]What is your definition of "high quality girls?" Or do you mean to just say "high price?"

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1257666]This point is highly debatable. Actually, since "tipping" is considered a Western thing, it is WE who are view as suckers for tipping. Has nothing to do with being able to "afford a tip". I don't think the Euros tip at all. I also believe that a few veteran mongers have pointed out that there a numerous establishments in the DR (and Sosua) where the "tip" is already padded into your bill, and you would not catch it if you did not know what to look for.

Just about any forum you visit there are mongers asking (begging) American newbies not to tip because it inflates the pricing structure. In some places, such as Colombia, it is not advisable to tip for safety reasons (I'm guessing that if you can "afford" to pay over the amount of your meal's original costs you are considered to be rich; which in turn could set you up as a possible candidate for "Paseo Millonario", which is definitely not a good thing).[/QUOTE]I don't think the tipping issue is debatable at all. The only debatable part is that people go other places and assume they should be doing what they do at home; when that is actually not the case. Last week here in Pattaya I met up with a few guys from the forum. One is Canadian but has lived in Japan for 10 years. He said that when he goes back to Canada he always forgets to tip because he is no longer used to doing it after being in Japan so long. There was another guy from the forum from Hawaii and he said that when he gets here he always forgets that he is not supposed to be tipping because he is so used to doing it in the States.

Whenever I go to a country that I am not familiar with I first do my due diligence to find out what are the customs in that culture. Then when I am in country I look around at the locals and see what they do, as well as ask the hotel desk clerk. As you said, over here in Asia it is not customary to tip and in Japan it is even seen as insulting and the people will not accept your money. Here in Thailand they have begun to see it as Westerners are suckers so they will gladly accept your money now and even ask for it sometimes. But you will never see Thai people handing out money like that.

[url]http://www.usatoday.com/travel/world/2007-09-10-tipchart_N.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1257568]Big Statement, I never had an Class "A" Burger in Sosua and their usually packed with tons of unknown spices. Maybe adobo and FORGET ABOUT finding Heinz Ketchup! I bring my own I swear to god! Jajaj LOL. I heard the new bbq spot on the beach is world class though! Must try it out!

Thats funny because I've never even seen beer on tap in Sosua even if it was offered. MAYBE at some German spots up on the Main Road!

NOW THIS I DON'T BELIEVE! Jajajaja LOL[/QUOTE]The New Cafe or News Cafe opposite Club Residential has excellent hand-made burgers and you can specify how you want it made. My only criticism is that they are a bit too big for me.

I don't know what is so special about Heinz ketchup. It contains "unknown" spices. Here is a recipe to make your own Heinz ketchup, only better.

http://www.genaw.com/lowcarb/better_heinz_ketchup.html



In a blind tasting test last year, Heinz came at the bottom of 13 different brands of ketchup. Tasters said its flavour was ‘artificial, bitter and vinegary’. Of course there is no particular value in the opinion of amateur tasters, but then it is all in the mind anyway.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1387285/Red-faced-Heinz-ketchup-comes-BOTTOM-taste-tests.html

[QUOTE=Kman1;1257609]What do you mean by Gents Resort? Have you read the forum? You sound clueless.[/QUOTE]Kman, He is inquiring about a place that has not been reviewed on this board so what is so wrong with him asking, what makes you think he hasn't RTFF?

Gent's is an all inclusive place similar to Oxygen etc. But with much lower prices. I believe the full name of the place is Gentleman's Caribbean Resort. I haven't been but I know someone that has and they said it was okay for the money. I don't know if it is against the rules to post a direct link to their website but it is gents resort. Com

[QUOTE=Azazel42;1257570]Test123. I ahve written 2 posts that have not been posted on the board, just testing[/QUOTE]New posters are vetted and its like a 50post minimum before you become a "senior" member and then your posts won't be delayed, something like that, I'm exactly not sure!

P. S. Tough game yesterday! And tonight! Shit!

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1257691]The New Cafe or News Cafe opposite Club Residential has excellent hand-made burgers and you can specify how you want it made. My only criticism is that they are a bit too big for me.

I don't know what is so special about Heinz ketchup. It contains "unknown" spices. Here is a recipe to make your own Heinz ketchup, only better.

[url]http://www.genaw.com/lowcarb/better_heinz_ketchup.html[/url]

In a blind tasting test last year, Heinz came at the bottom of 13 different brands of ketchup. Tasters said its flavour was 'artificial, bitter and vinegary'. Of course there is no particular value in the opinion of amateur tasters, but then it is all in the mind anyway.

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[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1387285/Red-faced-Heinz-ketchup-comes-BOTTOM-taste-tests.html[/url][/QUOTE]I am an American and here we have grown up with Heinz and it us the best here with Hunts running a distant second. Much better than that Dominican Baldo crap. Heinz is the best selling ketchup in the world! That survey you are sharing was taken by an all British clientele with 3 of the top ketchup brands are made by the local supermarkets. I'm sure if it was taken here the survey would be the exact opposite!

[quote=azazel42;1257501]tempoecorto, maybe you need to anty up an extra $20 or something to your chica's western union fund for better spanish lessons, because she aint doing ya justice brother. the term " comemierda " means literally= shit-eater. come =eat or to eat- mierda= shit. a more coversational translation would be dumbass, asshole, or idiot. since eating your own [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113][CodeWord113][/url] is not such an intelligent thing to do, it has an inference to stupidity or lack of inteligence. now " pedaso de mierda " means piece of shit. pedaso= piece-de= of- mierda= shit. what i said to him was " just a dumbass purto rican in the end " al fin = the end. like i am sure you have seen in many foreign films at " the end " = " fin ". this been spanish 101 from a low life, tony montana cuban. lmfaoo[/quote]first off, hats off for your disarming note to others in the forum. it takes guts to apologize and so kudos for that re-deeming quality in yours. i appreciate.

si necesito mi novia dominicana ayudarme por aun, no haria nada por el simple hecho que no "creo" en tener novias. lol. it is true that my knowledge of spanish is not good at all but i just did not want to do a literal translation as things get lost. besides most people here writing have enough of spanish to know "comer". it is as primordial as "tener sexo" especially in this forum? but yes, i stand corrected.

paz, hermano y disfrutate en la rep dom!

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1257743]Si necesito mi novia dominicana ayudarme por aun, no haria nada por el simple hecho que no "creo" en tener novias.[/QUOTE]What happened to that chica Giugglia Tradductore who used to translate for you?

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1257737]I am an American and here we have grown up with Heinz and it us the best here with Hunts running a distant second. Much better than that Dominican Baldo crap. Heinz is the best selling ketchup in the world! That survey you are sharing was taken by an all British clientele with 3 of the top ketchup brands are made by the local supermarkets. I'm sure if it was taken here the survey would be the exact opposite![/QUOTE]Mmmm! But it was a blind taste test, so I am not so sure. Heinz is also the best known and most popular brand in the UK."Shake the ketchup from the bottle / first, a little, then a lottle" was a famous UK advertising campaign.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1257774]What happened to that chica Giugglia Tradductore who used to translate for you?[/QUOTE]Thanks to your insistence, Google made an offer to her she could not refuse!

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1257743]First off, Hats off for your disarming note to others in the forum.[/QUOTE]I second that.

[QUOTE=Beagle0030;1257521].Sorry for my wandering thoughts, but this is my 2 cents worth of advice.[/QUOTE]Thoroughly enjoyed your thoughtful, well written personal views. And the repeated advice to treat others well. Trite and yet, always true. Thank you.

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Thanks for the tip will certainly check her out, do you have any photos of her did she do BBBJ.

[QUOTE=Berthold; 1257507][QUOTE=MetcalfKieth; 1256523]From passions a differant one each night unless I find one special, any of you members have any recomendations of girls to take home would be great? I would like girls like the girl that interrupts.

You should aks for Lulu, she will fuck your brains out, had a very good session with her last night, she used to work at Black Beards before.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the reply I will check these places out.

Thanks for your help am checking these places out.

[QUOTE=Kman1; 1257588]You made a wise choice. You have to go with your heart and choose what feels right for you, no point in second guessing. Peter, the owner will be a happy man if you picked a girl out of La Passions every night (though the place has grown a lot and he may not be so readily available, he will definitely talk to you if you ask for him). Say Hi to him and let him know your intentions, the girls will be impressed if they see you talking to peter (just a little trick). Tell him you are in I SOC, ISG, bla bla. Also join La Passion Yahoo group to see the photo gallery of all current girls (if you haven't already done so). [url]http://[/url]*LaPassionMassageSosua/

I don't know Colibri, its new and you can try it out. Otherwise Europa is ok, and there is also club Residencial a few doors away and closer to La Passion, its nicer.

[url]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g317146-d1159732-Reviews-Club_Residencial-Sosua_Dominican_Republic.html.[/url]

Its easier to get girls in and out at Europa, Residencial has some restrictions as to one girl at a time and they have to be out by a certain time in the morning.

My advice is you want to contact both Europa and Residencial to make sure ground floor accommodation is available and book it as that is important to you. Europa, you don't have to prepay (also the same for New Garden and Terra Linda) , I don't know about Residencial but should be the same. Just email conf. Works. So, I would book at both places and then choose. Wink! Wink!

If you decide to stay or visit the Residencial restaurant / bar facing the street, say Hi to my "girlfriend" (LOL) that works the bar in the evenings. Now, this one is a real non pro or remotely possible semi pro. I worked a little on her, she invited me to her place for lunch at Charamaicos but I never made it, she was a lot cuter years ago. Anyone has any experiences with her, please do chime in.

A day or two after you break in and get a little used to the place, you will be able to check out Classicos, Rumba and other bars just up the road within a mile or so.[/QUOTE]

My definition of high quality is girls that would not look at me if I was 20 years old, girls with a good curvy figure and very pretty, I know that there are others outside of passions but most of

Them will be more interested in others, with regard to high price it costs £250. 00 for an hour for similar girls in the uk so I think the prices are amazing, maybe I could learn something off you,

That would be nice, look forward to your reply.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1257671]What is your definition of "high quality girls?" Or do you mean to just say "high price?"[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1257666]This point is highly debatable. Actually, since "tipping" is considered a Western thing, it is WE who are view as suckers for tipping. Has nothing to do with being able to "afford a tip". I don't think the Euros tip at all. I also believe that a few veteran mongers have pointed out that there a numerous establishments in the DR (and Sosua) where the "tip" is already padded into your bill, and you would not catch it if you did not know what to look for.

Just about any forum you visit there are mongers asking (begging) American newbies not to tip because it inflates the pricing structure. In some places, such as Colombia, it is not advisable to tip for safety reasons (I'm guessing that if you can "afford" to pay over the amount of your meal's original costs you are considered to be rich; which in turn could set you up as a possible candidate for "Paseo Millonario", which is definitely not a good thing).[/QUOTE]I have now been going to Sosua for two years and am from the USA. I believe all Dominicans view us as "millionairio"-Why well let's see-our government has given them "financial aid" forever so naturally why shouldn't we-we represent the USA. In their eyes we are ALL "RICO". The girl at Bailey's said to me-"You come here alot you should tip alot"-in spanish-I understood her and never went back- Then I began to notice at the bars-Dominicans NEVER tip-Europeasns don't tip much, if at all-I have decided that I will pick and choose when to tip-It will no longer be a given and if I am viewed as "barato" I will take it as a compliment because "me no turista estupido"

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1257671]What is your definition of "high quality girls?" Or do you mean to just say "high price?"[/QUOTE]If you want the high quality girls at Passions you should go there in the late afternoon between 5-6pm. Yesterday there were 30+ girls present with some serious eyecandy.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1257743]First off, Hats off for your disarming note to others in the forum. It takes guts to apologize and so kudos for that re-deeming quality in yours. I appreciate.

Si necesito mi novia dominicana ayudarme por aun, no haria nada por el simple hecho que no "creo" en tener novias. LOL. It is true that my knowledge of Spanish is not good at all but I just did not want to do a literal translation as things get lost. Besides most people here writing have enough of Spanish to know "comer". It is as primordial as "tener sexo" especially in this forum? But yes, I stand corrected.

Paz, Hermano Y disfrutate en la Rep Dom![/QUOTE]Well said brother, well said. So I guess I assumed, but the only ass here is me. LOL. There are diff dialects and each culture has their own slang. Us Cubans have many slang words that are unique to us. Pussy is universal brother. LOL.

Happy mongering!

Azazel

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt; 1257639]I too let my emotions, run away with me, and like you once I read it back, I wanted to puke"

And great people on this board, gave me difference point of views, and it allowed me to re opadjust my thinking. I thank Cooley High and Tom jackin for setting me straight. We can't right all percieved wrong, on this board, sometimes silence is golden, furthernore I really appreciated Frannie, choosing to take the highroad, and not buy in to my bullshit post, he kindly reminded me I had nothing to appologize for, when in fact I did. My new goal is to keep my BIG MOUTH SHUT. And like Mr Jackson, once referred to another person in another forum, to not have diarrhea of the keyboard, and spurt out useless info, so you and I can grow together, with the valueble info the board have to offer.

Peace keep yo headup my brother![/QUOTE]Thanks for the kind words man, and it 's good to see that rationalility still has merit SOMEWHERE. I don't blame people for their mistakes, I just ask them to own them. That's exactly what I was doing. Owning it. There is so much info that goes across this board that sometimes it's simply mesmerizing. I feel like I have to " chime in " on everything, but your right." Silence is golden" sometimes. So here I am, observing and shutting the fuck up. Pretty much everyday for the last 4-5 years. LOL. I remember the old format of the site, and I remember the cheesie ass photo galleries before Jackson made one central one. I'm telling, I have been lurking here for years. LOL. I gladly give Jackson my $20 bucks, because it's a steal for the plethora of info you get. This is hands down the best site on this topic. Yes, I have read Cuba Dave's stuff all over, but Nowhere can you find everything in one place like here. So thanks to Tempeo, Boricua, Charles, Yourself, and all other members who didn't hold my stupidity against me. Now that my Nervous breakdown is over, maybe we can get back to talking about some pussy eh. LOL. Happy Mongering!

Sincerely,

Azazel

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1257735]New posters are vetted and its like a 50post minimum before you become a "senior" member and then your posts won't be delayed, something like that, I'm exactly not sure!

P. S. Tough game yesterday! And tonight! Shit![/QUOTE]I never knew that, maybe I should read the small print.

[QUOTE=Llttf;1258062]I never knew that, maybe I should read the small print.[/QUOTE]Every new member stays "regular" for a while and their posts are delayed like 12hrs. I'm not sure if it is an amount of posts until you become a senior member or amount of time, maybe a combination of both. I guess this is the moderators method to significantly cut down on trolls. Seems to be working for the most part.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1257735]New posters are vetted and its like a 50post minimum before you become a "senior" member and then your posts won't be delayed, something like that, I'm exactly not sure!

P. S. Tough game yesterday! And tonight! Shit![/QUOTE]I finally figured out that posts were priotitzed. Isn't too difficult to do. Just like you can give print jobs priotity on networks, so too can you give senior member's posts priority. Makes sense. It was just a little frustrating to watch the responses to my dumb ass post fly, and not be able to retort nor retract. I reached out to Boricua thru PM, so he would know where I stood. I say it again. The comradery here is resfreshing, and I could see that transcending to watching out for each other on our escapades. I think it goes without saying that we all feel an obligation to ensure our fellow monger's safety, and I am sure that any of you would come to my aid if you saw me in a hairy situation. As a collective we have strength in numbers, and as someone who has traveled all over the world (mostly solo) it's good to know you have a friend if you need them, wherever you are in the world.

P. S. Yeah bro, and lastnight with a Roseless Chicago too. That's 4 road losses in a row, but I wouldn't worry much. It's just the breaks. We're still the class of the East and top 3 NBA power ranking, no doubt. HEAT BABY. WHITE HOT!

Azazel

[QUOTE=MetcalfKieth; 1257999]My definition of high quality is girls that would not look at me if I was 20 years old, girls with a good curvy figure and very pretty, I know that there are others outside of passions but most of

Them will be more interested in others, with regard to high price it costs £250. 00 for an hour for similar girls in the uk so I think the prices are amazing, maybe I could learn something off you,

That would be nice, look forward to your reply.[/QUOTE]However once you get to the DR your standards will change. You will not be satisfied with a Naomi Campbell lookalike, you will want a YOUNG Naomi Campbell lookalike with a strawberry on top and a slice of lemon.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1258156]However once you get to the DR your standards will change. You will not be satisfied with a Naomi Campbell lookalike, [b]you will want a YOUNG Naomi Campbell lookalike with a strawberry on top and a slice of lemon[/b].[/QUOTE]Now ain't that the 110% truth, lol! And the best thing about it is that you can find exactly that :).

[QUOTE=Frannie;1258156]However once you get to the DR your standards will change. You will not be satisfied with a Naomi Campbell lookalike, you will want a YOUNG Naomi Campbell lookalike with a strawberry on top and a slice of lemon.[/QUOTE]Yes but don't pull to hard on those hair extensions while you're doing doggie, those shits will come right out and then they'll be hell to pay! I did that shit one time by accident and the puta kinda got pissed off and it killed the mood!

I think the proprietors of Fantasy Club are posing as girls on Badoo, and then when you reach out to them they have pics of multiple girls they want to push on ya. I checked the profile of a chica named Eliany, and it turned out to be someone from Fantasy Club offering hookups with several girls. One of the pics on the profile is a flyer from Fantasy Club, and there is tonz of pics of girls inside the club. I realized that even the url of " Eliany's " profile even says Fantasy club in it. LOL Has anyone hung or taken a girl out from fantasy Club? How does their quality of Chicas compare to Passions? They have a menu with the identical prices of Passions. How does their value compare to Passions?

Azazel42

[QUOTE=Zedman99;1258018]I have now been going to Sosua for two years and am from the USA. I believe all Dominicans view us as "millionairio"-Why well let's see-our government has given them "financial aid" forever so naturally why shouldn't we-we represent the USA. In their eyes we are ALL "RICO". The girl at Bailey's said to me-"You come here alot you should tip alot"-in spanish-I understood her and never went back- Then I began to notice at the bars-Dominicans NEVER tip-Europeasns don't tip much, if at all-I have decided that I will pick and choose when to tip-It will no longer be a given and if I am viewed as "barato" I will take it as a compliment because "me no turista estupido"[/QUOTE]I started this latest round on the merits of tipping, so I am going to try to clarify my earlier remarks. All I am doing is adding my perspective of the situation. Nothing bothers me more than someone telling me how I should do something on my vacation, and that is not my point here.

I recommended tipping when you are in Sosua. I geared that remark towards people, like me, that head down for a handful of days at a time. When I am in other parts of the DR, I act differently. While the strip in Sosua may be in the DR, it is nothing like the normal parts of the country.

I can use Bailey's as the perfect example. It is not run like a typical Dominican restaurant. That is why it is popular and people pay a premium to eat there.

I used my interactions at Bailey's with other customers to explain why people should tip. When I am down there, I usually go there at least once a day. The wifi rocks, the bathrooms are nice, and I am never in a hurry. When I go there, I leave a tip for good service. While I was there, other Americans pointed out that I got served much quicker than they did. I would always explain that I tip, and the staff notices that.

I also have seen the pickiest customers in there. They banter on how they want every single thing prepared. Then they send their order back two or three times. These are also the same people who talk about how they do not tip.

If you are in a decent place in Sousa and you do not want to tip, don't. If you eat at Bailey's and do not think you can afford to leave behind any money after you pay, then do not tip anything. I am just trying to explain that there is another side to this. An $8 lunch is cheap to me, but I know that it is more than my server's wages for that day. I also know I passed 10 other places that were cheaper on the way there, so money was not my motivation factor in a choosing a place to eat.

When I am down there, I probably drop $20 a day on tips. Does that make me a better person than someone who does not tip, nope. A sucker, maybe. However, I feel that money is very well spent. So when you are sitting somewhere on the strip and someone is getting treated better, I am just pointing out that there might be a reason for that. And yes, all it takes is a dollar or two.

On my last full day down there in Jan, I had some beers in Lou's Shark Bar (and a shout out to Lou. He is the fxxxing best). He knew that I was leaving and not going to be back for months. I left him $5 tip. He could have just said thanks and pocketed it. However, he poured me a big shot of Stoli. He did not need to do it, and I needed a shot of Stoli like a hole in my head. I am just pointing out that generosity begets generosity.

This is my last post on the topic. I understand that the forum is to discuss banging girls and not a travel guide on the 'do's and don'ts' of a place. I just cannot believe that there is such a place only half a day's travels from my house. I have so much fun down there, and I just would like to have everyone enjoy it as much as me.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1258156]However once you get to the DR your standards will change. You will not be satisfied with a Naomi Campbell lookalike, you will want a YOUNG Naomi Campbell lookalike with a strawberry on top and a slice of lemon.[/QUOTE]I hope your right, I look forward to it.

[QUOTE=Manizales911; 1257718]Kman, He is inquiring about a place that has not been reviewed on this board so what is so wrong with him asking, what makes you think he hasn't RTFF?

Gent's is an all inclusive place similar to Oxygen etc. But with much lower prices. I believe the full name of the place is Gentleman's Caribbean Resort. I haven't been but I know someone that has and they said it was okay for the money. I don't know if it is against the rules to post a direct link to their website but it is gents resort. Com[/QUOTE]Thank you, Manizales.

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1258226]I think the proprietors of Fantasy Club are posing as girls on Badoo, and then when you reach out to them they have pics of multiple girls they want to push on ya. I checked the profile of a chica named Eliany, and it turned out to be someone from Fantasy Club offering hookups with several girls. One of the pics on the profile is a flyer from Fantasy Club, and there is tonz of pics of girls inside the club.

Azazel42[/QUOTE]I had a similar exposure when I wanted to contact someone on one of these sites. I was in the D. R and got a callback from an intermediary not the person who I saw the photo of. Of course I was not interested and so that was the end of it. This just goes to say that people in the business take advantage of these sites along with the individuals, who it is meant for. Eh. Tant pis!

[QUOTE=Beagle0030; 1258236]I started this latest round on the merits of tipping, so I am going to try to clarify my earlier remarks.

This is my last post on the topic. I understand that the forum is to discuss banging girls and not a travel guide on the 'do's and don'ts' of a place. I just cannot believe that there is such a place only half a day's travels from my house. I have so much fun down there, and I just would like to have everyone enjoy it as much as me.[/QUOTE]Another articulate and thoughtful piece. Enjoyed reading it.

My own view on these things is that we will do what we have been programmed to do and no amount of cajoling by others have any impact.

[QUOTE=Mountain Lion; 1257887]" K-Boy1 " why don't you ask your " Head-master " Hillbilly 69 to " pull that corncob out of his ass!"; So you can have " a teachable moment " with that " really good post about preachers!" Over & Out!

The Mountain Lion![/QUOTE]Nice. I like the fact you speak your mind. Thanks for your contributions to the forum so far and to come. I just felt that there is a lot of "I am always right","I know it all" kind of machoism in many of the posts here. Everyone makes mistakes and its a trial and error process, so just let a newbie make his own decisions, we are all adults and our behaviours are not easy to change, if I like something and am intrigued by it and I feel it will work for me, I will blindly go for it, no matter all the antagonists, thats just me. If not for those traits, I would have not gotten into mongering.

Besides, this is a forum where most of us do not know who the other person really is, we all reply, remark and critic just based on the text posted. There's a lot more that goes on in real life. Peace and "over and out" from me too.

ps. feels like I am reflecting a lot of Tempoecorto's thoughts, which is true!

The Mountain Lion!

WOW!

[QUOTE=Encoreom;1258338]Thank you, Manizales.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I overlooked this one. Having been to Sosua so many times I never knew there really is a designated 'gents resort'? Its all one big gents paradise, IMHO.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1258559]The Mountain Lion!

WOW![/QUOTE]Thanks for chiming in, Tom the man! Some day we will cross paths, Tijuana or Sosua or BK (where I am yet to be).

[QUOTE=Mountain Lion; 1258373]I can't " Add " anything to that Beagle0030. Mi " Complementa " mi amigo!

The Mountain Lion![/QUOTE]Hey Tomjackin. Maybe we can say something "cool" and The Mountain Lion can validate us too. LOL, We aint shit, until the "Mountain Lion", gives us the Roar of Approval. Lmao! I was a loser but now I'm so cool, compliments of The Mountain Lion!

[QUOTE=Kman1; 1258552]Besides, this is a forum where most of us do not know who the other person really is, we all reply, remark and critic just based on the text posted. There's a lot more that goes on in real life. Peace and "over and out" from me too.

Ps. Feels like I am reflecting a lot of Tempoecorto's thoughts, which is true![/QUOTE]Personally, I was miffed seeing Mountain Lion's ad hominem on Kman1. I too felt it was not warranted but decided to stay mum until I saw Tomjackin's note now...kudos are due him. I also saw a note from Mountain Lion complimenting Beagle 0030 -I am sure he will come around.

PS: I feel most of us have similar thoughts on decent behavior. So when we see one articulating it, we start taking notice of the communion of our minds.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1258200]Yes but don't pull to hard on those hair extensions while you're doing doggie, those shits will come right out and then they'll be hell to pay! I did that shit one time by accident and the puta kinda got pissed off and it killed the mood![/QUOTE]It might have killed your mood but I just cracked up. LOL!

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt;1258583]Lmao! I was a loser but now I'm so cool, compliments of The Mountain Lion![/QUOTE]Thank goodness, at least one of us is in the "cool" status! I'm too damn old and tired to be cool.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1258765]Thank goodness, at least one of us is in the "cool" status! I'm too damn old and tired to be cool.[/QUOTE]DeepMmpactt, Tomjackin & Kman: [blue][Non-English text deleted by Admin][/blue]

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[QUOTE=Bosco; 423506]How much is the bus ride from Santo Domingo to Sosua?

And how long will it take.[/QUOTE]About 3.5 hrs on Metro bus dude. Bring some company for the ride, and a jacket its cold on the bus.

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Scotch,

How could a young man hook up with the one in blue she looks like a hottie.

OK guys. 4 days and counting. We are going to fly into STI at about 8:30 pm. Should I just grab the first taxi I find, or is there a shuttle or something? Does anyone know of a reliable taxi to drive us from STI to Sosua, and ballpark how much should I expect to pay for 3 guys from STI to Sosua? Any feedback is much appreciated guys. 4 more days, yes. LOL.

Azazel

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1259410]OK guys. 4 days and counting. We are going to fly into STI at about 8:30 pm. Should I just grab the first taxi I find, or is there a shuttle or something? Does anyone know of a reliable taxi to drive us from STI to Sosua, and ballpark how much should I expect to pay for 3 guys from STI to Sosua? Any feedback is much appreciated guys. 4 more days, yes. LOL.

Azazel[/QUOTE]It will cost 80- 100 USD.

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1259410]OK guys. 4 days and counting. We are going to fly into STI at about 8:30 pm. Should I just grab the first taxi I find, or is there a shuttle or something? Does anyone know of a reliable taxi to drive us from STI to Sosua, and ballpark how much should I expect to pay for 3 guys from STI to Sosua? Any feedback is much appreciated guys. 4 more days, yes. LOL.

Azazel[/QUOTE]If you can't find a guy going to Sosua on your plane, chances are you will have a hard time finding putas too.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1259434]If you can't find a guy going to Sosua on your plane, chances are you will have a hard time finding putas too.[/QUOTE]Great info you provided there Hillbilly. I can see that your reading comprehension skills are as inept as your dental hygiene (that means your toofless) , because I explained that there are 3 of us. So yeah. Anyways, besides Hillbilly's astout observation. LOL. Can anyone suggest the Best / Practical way to get from STI to Sosua for 3 guys just trying to have a good time on a Fri. Night?

Azazel

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1259410]OK guys. 4 days and counting. We are going to fly into STI at about 8:30 pm. Should I just grab the first taxi I find, or is there a shuttle or something? Does anyone know of a reliable taxi to drive us from STI to Sosua, and ballpark how much should I expect to pay for 3 guys from STI to Sosua? Any feedback is much appreciated guys. 4 more days, yes. LOL.

Azazel[/QUOTE]I know a very good, super reliable, slow driving Puerto Plata taxi driver with a passenger van who would pick you up for at Santiago US$100 and take you back again when you go home, if you want. Segundo, eight-zero-nine four four six two four zero four or pm me with details and I can arrange for him to make the pick up (if you want) if your Spanish is not good enough.

So excited booked my flight from manchester 19/4/2012 cannot wait, anybody else in sosua on the 19th onwards I would love to meet up and have a drink will have lots of questions for the forum.

In the next month, but I will repay it when I get back with some info of my own.

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1259410]OK guys. 4 days and counting. We are going to fly into STI at about 8:30 pm. Should I just grab the first taxi I find, or is there a shuttle or something? Does anyone know of a reliable taxi to drive us from STI to Sosua, and ballpark how much should I expect to pay for 3 guys from STI to Sosua? Any feedback is much appreciated guys. 4 more days, yes. LOL.

Azazel[/QUOTE]You should be able to easily bargain them down to 80. 00 US and make sure he takes the main highway-some guys take the shortcut.its brutal and dangerous. Have fun I was there in early March can't wait to go back. Plenty of chicas

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1258444]Another articulate and thoughtful piece. Enjoyed reading it.

My own view on these things is that we will do what we have been programmed to do and no amount of cajoling by others have any impact.[/QUOTE]When somebody else pays my bills they can tell me how to spend my $$$$.

[QUOTE=Zedman99;1258018]I have now been going to Sosua for two years and am from the USA. I believe all Dominicans view us as "millionairio"-Why well let's see-our government has given them "financial aid" forever so naturally why shouldn't we-we represent the USA. In their eyes we are ALL "RICO". The girl at Bailey's said to me-"You come here alot you should tip alot"-in spanish-I understood her and never went back- Then I began to notice at the bars-Dominicans NEVER tip-Europeasns don't tip much, if at all-I have decided that I will pick and choose when to tip-It will no longer be a given and if I am viewed as "barato" I will take it as a compliment because "me no turista estupido"[/QUOTE]I stopped tipping in Sosua because it seems you get harrased more by people when you do tip. It's almost like everyone in town thinks your some sucker who is giving away money and word gets around fast. The only people who ever see a tip from me now are the people at the hotel (I usually stay at Sosua Bay resort) afterall they actually take care of my needs, (fridge is always stacked with refreshments, and always plenty of towel). Just be sure to never give money to any of the street beggars, you will spend half your day getting rid of them.

[QUOTE=Toticos;1258809]About 3.5 hrs on Metro bus dude. Bring some company for the ride, and a jacket its cold on the bus.[/QUOTE]Hey Toticos, just had a flashback. Is this chick from Sosua? She reminds me of someone there from one of my prior trips, but I can't always be sure because I drink to damn much and everything is always hazy a few months later for me. That's why I love this site, sitting home in NY and always able to catch up with what's going in one of my favorite places.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1257737]I am an American and here we have grown up with Heinz and it us the best here with Hunts running a distant second. Much better than that Dominican Baldo crap. Heinz is the best selling ketchup in the world![/QUOTE]I knew a German doctor from München (Munich) , Germany (Bundesrepublik Deutschland. Bundas in Portuguese is the word for ass or culos) , he used to travel with his favorite mustard, for his trips to Rio de Janeiro, Brasil.

[QUOTE=Azazel42;1259446]Great info you provided there Hillbilly. I can see that your reading comprehension skills are as inept as your dental hygiene (that means your toofless)[/QUOTE]I guess being toofless as you spell it, is better that having a little dick ha? BTW I pay as much attention to your posts as I do the Mountain Peon, which is very little! But here is your van. http://www.taxiaeropuertopop.com/

[QUOTE=LoveFiveStar;1259545]I stopped tipping in Sosua because it seems you get harrased more by people when you do tip. It's almost like everyone in town thinks your some sucker who is giving away money and word gets around fast. The only people who ever see a tip from me now are the people at the hotel (I usually stay at Sosua Bay resort) afterall they actually take care of my needs, (fridge is always stacked with refreshments, and always plenty of towel). Just be sure to never give money to any of the street beggars, you will spend half your day getting rid of them.[/QUOTE]I've been tipping the bar girls in Sosua since day 1. Especially after I was told on numerous occasions that a lot of the girls don't don't make any kind of salary and are relying on these tips or to be "taken out" Of course I don't tip in proportion like I do in the states but the ladies seem to appreciate anything. A 20 peso coin, a 50 peso bill. It's not going to break my bank and in my mind I'm saying "hey at least she has money for the 3am motoconcho ride home" as mundane as that may be.

[QUOTE=princemoor; 1259266]Scotch,

How could a young man hook up with the one in blue she looks like a hottie.[/QUOTE]There are literally 50-100 chicas that are as hot as this chica, NO reason to focus on hooking up with one particular chica before you even arrive. Chances are she will either be on her luna (Rag) , or be on the other side of the island, book a trip, and hit the ground running. There will be plenty of fresh toto waiting for you!

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1259753]I guess being toofless as you spell it, is better that having a little dick ha? BTW I pay as much attention to your posts as I do the Mountain Peon, which is very little! But here is your van. http://www.taxiaeropuertopop.com/[/QUOTE]The mispell was intentional. My intention was to spell it as you would pronounce it with your typical southern draw. Someone with a handle like Hillbilly69 must have heard tonza toothless jokes no. Just because your sister told you that you have a big one, doesn't mean you really do. I mean she only has her brothers and cousins as reference, and the whole family may have the needle-dick gene. I'm just saying. Thank you for the info man, but was all the extra crap really necessary. Just be willing to take it, if your going to dish it.

Azazel

[QUOTE=Toticos;1258809]About 3.5 hrs on Metro bus dude. Bring some company for the ride, and a jacket its cold on the bus.[/QUOTE]The ticket from Santo Domingo to Sosua is going to cost you 380 pesos.

[QUOTE=Buscemi;1259768]There are literally 50-100 chicas that are as hot as this chica, NO reason to focus on hooking up with one particular chica before you even arrive. Chances are she will either be on her luna (Rag) , or be on the other side of the island, book a trip, and hit the ground running. There will be plenty of fresh toto waiting for you![/QUOTE]It always amazes me how guys on the threads of major mongering destinations want to hook up with the girl you post about. Here in Pattaya there are at least 10000 (30000 by some estimates) women to hook up with yet people always ask for the contact info of one particular girl (or recommend one particular girl) , as if this was a mongering desert. Besides that your mileage may vary. Just because a chick was wonderful for me, it doesn't mean you will get the same results.

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Having been to Sosua once before in February ’10, I got back to the north coast with quite a few uncertainties:
- is Sosua dead as some say?
- is Sosua alive as others assure?
- will I be kept awake at night and generally disturbed by young black Americans?
- will…

OK, I’m kidding, I wasn’t worried and just as I thought I had again a good time. The way I see it:
1- you have to do a little research and put info in perspective to understand WHERE you’re going. Doing so will allow you to properly manage expectations.
2- any newbie-to-Sosua will very likely have a good time, provided he follows point #1.
3- if you limit your stay in Sosua to a weekend, 3 nights at most, I think you’ll always have a good time, regardless of your “newbie” or “local expert” status.


[size=3][b]how Sosua has changed[/b][/size]
Two years ago I wrote:
“[i]Sosua is also quite poor, judging by the kids sleeping on the street and by the general look of the town. Some here call it SoSewer, and I would say with good reason, but at the same time let me state that if some of the mongers weren't so thrashy, the town itself would be better too. I lost count of the guys who don't belong to civilized society[/i]”

In a recent post Frannie humorously put it this way: [QUOTE=Frannie;1246871]Yeah, well, practically every guy found in Sosua is handicapped or some kind of weirdo in one way or another, only we prefer not to talk about it too much, so join the club. Obese, drunkards, Elvis impersonators, all are welcome.[/QUOTE]

From the vantage point of someone who hasn’t witnessed the change little by little, but experienced it after a 2 year hiatus, I can state that Sosua the place has changed for the better while the mongering in Sosua has changed both in positive and negative ways.

SOSUA THE PLACE
1- no more kids living rough on Clisante
2- no more sexpats with ripped shirts and face tattoos
3- many more regular tourists, families included
4- more money around (I’ve seen both gringos and locals drive around in Audis, Corvettes, Porsches)

MONGERING IN SOSUA
1- [i]prices are a little up[/i]
While Haitians will unfailingly accept 1000 por un rato and 1500 por toda la noche, I haven’t met a single (worthy to me) Dominican to accept less than 2000.

2- [i]the Boca Chica-compulsive-request-for-money syndrome[/i]
Many Dominican girls, after you turned them down, will ask you for 100/200 pesos. I can see some logic in it if they spent half an hour or more with me since I negatively impacted their ability to find a customer for the evening, but when you reject them straight away it makes no sense.
If you have made their acquaintance, some will keep asking every following night, like a broken record, no smile no explanation.

3- [i]personal hygiene[/i]
Two years ago I was the one who had to prompt them to take a shower, and I had one case of smelly pussy. This time around most chicas actively sought the shower and I had no cases of bad smells.

4- [i]toda la noche[/i]
Girls must have finally realized that by having someone look after their kids they can make more money, because with one exception all girls I picked offered a toda la noche, and in those cases when I declined it was obvious they would have preferred to stay.



[red][size=4][b]GIRLS[/b][/size][/red]

[size=3][b]day-time beach action[/b][/size]
Some of the bars and restaurants on the beach employ girls for waiters, and most of them are both available and better looking than the average night variety. There were some magnificent specimens of flaquitas, both Haitians and Dominican.
They will happily sit and keep you company while you have lunch, and because they have more experience talking to foreigners the conversation with them will be more rewarding too.
In some cases they can immediately leave with you, in others you’ll have to wait until later in the afternoon.
One caveat: don’t be as direct as you would with their night counterparts: they perceive themselves to be quite different from a slam-bang prostitute.


[size=3][b]freelancers on Pedro Clisante and Clasico[/b][/size]
The crowd in the bars opposite side of Clasico is more mixed and features some male locals, while on the Clasico side it feels like there are only available girls and mongers hunting.

Haitians mostly congregate in the dark bar (called hotel something) right before downstairs Clasico.

Girls prowling in downstairs Clasico are the most direct, and also those most likely to speak a smattering of your language, wherever you may be from.

I must say that in Sosua I have often enjoyed more the night out than the sex itself (and that’s saying something): if you meet the right girls with the right attitude, you are in for a lot of fun.
If only the action area was double the size, or maybe even just a little more spread out… because as it is you cannot do Pedro Clisante more than three nights in a row without getting bored: it’s just too small.

I had both Haitians and Dominicans, some short time, some until the morning after, and one repeat.

VARIOUS
- depending on which street sign you read, Clasico have at least 3 different names.
- Haitians seemed, on average, to have a better grasp of the Spanish language than last time.
- I personally witnessed a guy next to me being asked 5000 pesos and paying them UPFRONT without any bargaining. He didn’t speak Spanish but didn’t look like a complete newbie either.
- at downstairs Clasico I witnessed a fight which could have resulted in serious bloodshed had the security guys not intervened. It seemed to be between an American kid and a local girl, but luckily I was far enough and couldn’t say for sure.


[size=3][b]la Passion[/b][/size]
[url]http://passions-sosua.com/[/url]
During my previous Sosua visit I did not try out la Passion. It is often said here that it is a brothel that caters to a certain kind of monger, and that those who have no problem getting action in Pedro Clisante have no reason to visit.

But even assuming you speak Spanish (here I contradict what I stated two years ago) Passion girls and Clisante freelancers shouldn’t be compared at all.
Besides offering sex, the similarities end.

La Passion basically offers two options:
- one is the long take out, quite expensive in DR terms.
- the other is the short eat in, with clean rooms, shower, condoms and a massage provided at the fixed price of 2500 pesos.

While it is true that some who go to la Passion couldn’t go to Clasico, there is no reason why someone who enjoy the freelancers cannot go to la Passion. It would be like saying that because you can get regular girls you shouldn’t use prostitutes!

I had 2 Passion chicas in the late afternoon, and I am extremely satisfied with the experience. I knew what price they’d cost me. The majority of the girls were attractive and fun to talk to, and my 2 choices were both proficient in the sex art and able to offer the GFE. One was a 1.80 tall light skinned flaquita of the kind you don’t see around. I cannot afford a full day take out, but if someone can by all means he should.

I met one of my 2 outside la Passion while I was with another girl, and she behaved with exactly the right amount of friendliness and politeness without overdoing it. Classy woman.

The only complaint I have is the same for the Gazcue bars in la Capital: plenty of talent but very few customers results in a stunted atmosphere.

Worth noting: girls don’t take any cut if you buy them a drink.


[size=3][b]expenses[/b][/size]
I had 7 girls: la Passion x 2, freelancers x 5 (of which 1 was a repeat):

agreed / imposed price: 2500 + 2500 + 1500 + 2500 + 1000 + 2000 + 2000
tips: 300 + 200 + 500 + 300 + 200 + 500 + 500

TOTAL: 16.500 pesos


[size=3][b]musings[/b][/size]
Now, some of the encounters I described above would by some members here be considered “sport fucking”, and as such reprehensible behavior.
Unfortunately I never had the chance to go on a sport-fucking-tour in Brazil, so I’m not one of those guys who get blamed here, but I wonder how and why they should be held responsible for the attitude change of the Sosua girls.
It leaves me puzzled. Since when is fucking a prostitute supposed to be first and foremost about the communion of the souls and the sharing of cultural customs?
Could it be instead that we mongers sometimes look for love in the wrong places?
I’ll be the first to try and make the paid experience as valuable, encompassing and gratifying as possible for both myself and the girl BEYOND THE SEX ACT, but at the heart of it what comes first is the natural male urge to fuck a pussy.
I accept if you criticize my decision to pay for sex, but if you do it yourself you can’t tell me that by opting for the established “here’s your money, we’ll never meet again” I am somehow spoiling your ability to enjoy the p4p scene.
Isn’t that naive?
The hardening of the girls is progressive. 60 years ago a white gringo male could have probably fucked all of Santo Domingo for free.



[red][size=4][b]THE OTHER STUFF[/b][/size][/red]

[size=3][b]hotel[/b][/size]
[url]http://www.hotelcasavaleria.com/en/homepage.html[/url]
I already wrote a couple of times in this thread about CASA VALERIA; two years after the first stay I unfortunately can’t confirm my original positive review.
- we booked through booking.com, confirmed the reservations a couple of days before our arrival, and still they messed it up.
- I had no hot water from the tap of my basin, and the problem was not rectified
- I had bad smell coming from the shower sink
- my room had no closet
My buddy, who had reserved the same type of room at the same price, had a bigger room and none of my problems.
If I ever visit Sosua again I probably won’t return to Casa Valeria.


[size=3][b]beach[/b][/size]
MAIN BEACH
With the exception of Sundays when it gets packed with locals, it’s relatively quiet. I like to bake in the sun and have guys ready to bring me drinks and sell me food; I could do without some of the vendors and massage ladies, but no place is perfect.
If the wind and waves permit it, you can even enjoy a little surf about 200 meters from the coast but still well inside the bay.
I was explained that since establishments on the beach do not pay taxes (don’t ask me why), if a restaurant charges you the usual DR taxes it’s cheating, so you can and should refuse to pay them.

PLAYA CHIQUITA
From Clisante you take Rosen and walk it to the end: you’ll find yourself on a balcony that overlooks this smaller beach. It looks nice enough, but:
1- there’s little vegetation and no palm trees, so it feels less Caribbean
2- no bars and restaurants


[size=3][b]sexual enhancers[/b][/size]
One pharmacy that sells the real stuff is the one between Playero market and Morua Mai restaurant on Pedro Clisante, on the right going towards the beach:
Viagra: 1900 pesos for a pack of 4
La Pela: 1200 pesos for a pack of 24


[size=3][b]restaurants[/b][/size]
During my previous trip to the DR I was left very disappointed by the low quality of Sosua’s eateries:
1- I generally ate better at lunch on the beach than at dinner in restaurants
2- didn’t matter what part of the country I was, the menu was always the same
This time I prepared myself by doing a little research with an eye out for meat and ethnic food, and it paid off nicely.

TERRA LINDA
[url]http://www.terralindaresort.com/en/dining.html[/url]
On Rosen: excellent churrasco.

LA FINCA
On the corner of Rosen and Martinez: good steak.

CASA VALERIA
[url]http://www.hotelcasavaleria.com/en/restaurant.html[/url]
On Rosen: average food with some northern European dishes.

BAILEYS
On Martinez: average food.

EL CULTIVO
Below average food and both my friend and I felt slightly nauseous for the rest of the evening.

THAI RESTAURANT CHILLI
[url]http://www.thairestaurantchili.com/index.html[/url]
On the hills behind Sosua, a 3 minutes, 300 pesos taxi ride.
The true gem of the holiday: beside the attentive and professional service (at a level found nowhere else in either Sosua or Cabarete) and the imaginative exotic cocktails, the Thai chef serves good to excellent food at prices cheaper than any of the above mentioned restaurants. A much needed diversion from both the regular diet and location.


[size=3][b]Cabarete[/b][/size]
I was really looking forward to visit Cabarete (not for mongering purposes), and I found it interesting but smaller and less developed than I thought.

Most likely I’m not the first to guess this, but I figure that with a bit of luck and proper marketing, in 20 years time Cabarete could become something similar to the Kuta / Seminyak area in Bali: a world renowned destination with some discreet p4p options.

As of now, [i]Cabarete town is a stretch of road[/i] probably no more than a half a mile long. Don’t go picture a main road with some quiet side streets: it really is just [i]one road[/i] with businesses on both sides.

The bars & restaurants area along the beach is even shorter, so that you can walk it in about 1 minute.
Also, while restaurants shut down around 11pm, nightlife doesn’t really get going until 2am, making it difficult to give a rhythm to your night out.

I wasn’t in Cabarete looking for company, and didn’t search out some of the places mentioned here: I just made a note that there were about 5 (clearly on the prowl) girls between Bambu and Onno’s (bars on the beach).

In the end I can only agree with what’s been said many times before: your activities in Cabarete, your mongering in Sosua. They’re only 15 minutes apart.


[size=3][b]27 waterfalls[/b][/size]
[url]http://www.27charcos.com/index.php[/url]
If you go in a big group it’ll take you a lot of time to do it (and I think I would get bored and cold waiting for my turn). Instead go in 2 or 3 at most, get your own guide, and you can do all 27 falls in two and a half hours: when you meet big groups the guides will arrange for you to skip the queue.

Beside the fun factor, it is also a beautiful walk inside the river bed in a jungle-like environment: highly recommended but don’t try it if you’re grossly out of shape.
Takes about 50 minutes by taxi from Sosua.


[red][i]As always, a big THANK YOU goes to those of you who took the time to answer some of my questions and requests for help.[/red][/i]

Ryo

[QUOTE=Mountain Lion; 1259901]Thanks Azazel42; for the " Actionable-Intelligence " that Gomer Pile! Also known as Hillbilly69 has been " Jacking-Off " again up in the hills (out of sight!) : The next time you " cross his path ", ask him if he's " Aware " that " Dyslexia " is now a " Treatable " illness covered by his " Food Stamp Card?" Over & Out Gentlemen!

The Mountain Lion![/QUOTE]Sorry to rain on your parade Mountain pussy but maybe Jackson can direct you to the kiddee board, maybe Steers looking for Queers would be a good start.

[QUOTE=Ryo Saeba; 1259933]Having been to Sosua once before in February '10, I got back to the north coast with quite a few uncertainties:

Ryo[/QUOTE]What a lovely report (this and the one in SD)! Thoroughly enjoyed reading; a good mix of facts and reflections. Evidently you gave the subject a lot of thought, paid attention to organizing it and finally added colors and pictures to make it a A+ college report. The effort shows. I also enjoyed the quality of language, flawless spellings, not to speak of using perfect subjunctive moods for the verbs. Does not happen often.

On a more mundane note, I take it you do not like FKKs. I actually enjoy it quite a bit. Not only because of the ambiance but because, I often find myself chatting with people. From across the Globe who share similar interest. Last trip, I first chatted with a German about Finance, a Japanese about good sashimi in Hong Kong and an Indian guy. Interspersed with my conversation with an Italian girl (in italiano) who was trying to push me as I was whiling away time inside a serious sauna and she would not come in. It is as you said, if the side dishes are as good, the main dish is no longer that important.

BTW, if you are from Italy, care to try writing your next report in Italian? I could learn a few tricks from it! LOL.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1259958]Sorry to rain on your parade Mountain pussy but maybe Jackson can direct you to the kiddee board, maybe Steers looking for Queers would be a good start.[/QUOTE]I guess you and Mountainlion know each other well huh. LOL. Regardless of who or how you are. Nice pics bro. Looks like you had a good time. Good for you man, and thanks for the sweet pics.

Azazel

Some cueros from Sosua in this vid [url]http://youtu.be/kNo2wp71moo[/url]

[QUOTE=Ryo Saeba;1259933]Two years ago I wrote:

'[i]Sosua is also quite poor, judging by the kids sleeping on the street and by the general look of the town. Some here call it SoSewer, and I would say with good reason, but at the same time let me state that if some of the mongers weren't so thrashy, the town itself would be better too. I lost count of the guys who don't belong to civilized society[/i]'

From the vantage point of someone who hasn't witnessed the change little by little, but experienced it after a 2 year hiatus, I can state that Sosua the place has changed for the better while the mongering in Sosua has changed both in positive and negative ways.

SOSUA THE PLACE.

1- no more kids living rough on Clisante.

2- no more sexpats with ripped shirts and face tattoos.

3- many more regular tourists, families included.

4- more money around (I've seen both gringos and locals drive around in Audis, Corvettes, Porsches)

MONGERING IN SOSUA.

1- [i]prices are a little up[/i]

While Haitians will unfailingly accept 1000 por un rato and 1500 por toda la noche, I haven't met a single (worthy to me) Dominican to accept less than 2000.

2- [i]the Boca Chica-compulsive-request-for-money syndrome[/i]

Many Dominican girls, after U-turned them down, will ask you for 100/200 pesos. I can see some logic in it if they spent half an hour or more with me since I negatively impacted their ability to find a customer for the evening, but when you reject them straight away it makes no sense.

If you have made their acquaintance, some will keep asking every following night, like a broken record, no smile no explanation.

3- [i]personal hygiene[/i]

Two years ago I was the one who had to prompt them to take a shower, and I had one case of smelly pussy. This time around most chicas actively sought the shower and I had no cases of bad smells.

4- [i]toda la noche[/i]

Girls must have finally realized that by having someone look after their kids they can make more money, because with one exception all girls I picked offered a toda la noche, and in those cases when I declined it was obvious they would have preferred to stay.

Some of the bars and restaurants on the beach employ girls for waiters, and most of them are both available and better looking than the average night variety. There were some magnificent specimens of flaquitas, both Haitians and Dominican.

They will happily sit and keep you company while you have lunch, and because they have more experience talking to foreigners the conversation with them will be more rewarding too.

In some cases they can immediately leave with you, in others you'll have to wait until later in the afternoon.

One caveat: don't be as direct as you would with their night counterparts: they perceive themselves to be quite different from a slam-bang prostitute.

The crowd in the bars opposite side of Clasico is more mixed and features some male locals, while on the Clasico side it feels like there are only available girls and mongers hunting.

Haitians mostly congregate in the dark bar (called hotel something) right before downstairs Clasico.

Girls prowling in downstairs Clasico are the most direct, and also those most likely to speak a smattering of your language, wherever you may be from.

I must say that in Sosua I have often enjoyed more the night out than the sex itself (and that's saying something) : if you meet the right girls with the right attitude, you are in for a lot of fun.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the up-to-date and very detailed and informative post. 5 Stars bro!

[QUOTE=Ryo Saeba;1259933]
If only the action area was double the size, or maybe even just a little more spread out… because as it is you cannot do Pedro Clisante more than three nights in a row without getting bored: it’s just too small.

[/QUOTE]

This is where it is always good to have a wing man or someone to shoot-the-shit with. On one of my trips I met an old-skool cat who had been visiting the DR for years (has been doing it without any knowledge of this site) and between romps with chicas I would sit with him at the bar of Merengue Bar with our chairs turned towards the street and just talk about life and the greatness and bullshit that goes along with it. Was also a great opportunity to get numbers from chicas as they passed by. It's interesting what you see when you are just watching time pass in front of you: undercover cops; a motochonchista getting hit by a foreigner in a rental; people leaving work and school in the evening; and of course, chicas making laps around the block. Some of which that only work the "day shift" and you'd never see in Classicos at night. Good times.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1260007]Some cueros from Sosua in this vid.

[url]http://youtu.be/kNo2wp71moo[/url][/QUOTE]The chic in the Rainbow bikini Danyela is my Sosua best friends former novia. I introduced him to her 2009 Christmas at Spice Disco in Puerto Plata, shortly after she moved to Sosua with him.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1260010]The chic in the Rainbow bikini Danyela is my Sosua best friends former novia. I introduced him to her 2009 Christmas at Spice Disco in Puerto Plata, shortly after she moved to Sosua with him.[/QUOTE]Yeah there has been a lot of talk about her on the boards, especially about her getting engaged in Clasicos.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1260007]Some cueros from Sosua in this vid.

[url]http://youtu.be/kNo2wp71moo[/url][/QUOTE]That video (and the song) wasn't actually all that bad. Had some pretty nice looking chicas in it too (even if pros), but I think I counted 3 total (with one "mystery chica in orange shorts), lol.

I'm sitting around here patiently waiting to be paroled from sex prison in the coming weeks, but that chica in the rainbow-colored bikini is going to make me fuck around and stage a prison-break, :D.

Ryo Saeba,

GREAT REPORTING! Very detail indeed and the knowledge you provided is priceless. Your report should definitely be in the "report of distinction" section. Thanks again

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1260011]Yeah there has been a lot of talk about her on the boards, especially about her getting engaged in Clasicos.[/QUOTE]Damn, I can't hate on the brotha for locking that down. Sosua will do that to you. I had to go and pull out my Slim Shady Anthem to remind me when I touch down that no matter how outstanding the head and chocha is from a chica:

[i]"I can't be your Superman
Can't be your Superman
Can't be your Superman
Can't be your Superman
I can't be your Superman
Can't be your Superman
Can't be your Superman
Your Superman, your Superman..."[/i]

[b]Superman - Eminem[/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRBqJCFTZVM[/url]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1260011]Yeah there has been a lot of talk about her on the boards, especially about her getting engaged in Clasicos.[/QUOTE]DAMN the jokes! So your telling me that a grown ass man got down on one knee and proposed to a HO errr I mean Honey in Classicos? My DEAR GOD! Have he lost his got damn mind.

Gentlemen I know the power of pussy is strong, hell I even sent some WU money to a honey a time or two (monger Gods please forgive me) but do NOT mix reality with fantasy. I repeat, DO NOT mix REALITY with FANTASY! It's hard, I know. You got a beautiful tenderoni that's pleasing you in every way and you want to lock it down. But you got to snap out of the dream world.

So before you succumb to the power of the pussy please click on that link below provided by Monger Extrodinare SavePro and snap back to reality.

*My name is Coolie High and I endorse this message LOL*

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1260058]Gentlemen I know the power of pussy is strong, hell I even sent some WU money to a honey a time or two (monger Gods please forgive me) but do NOT mix reality with fantasy. I repeat, DO NOT mix REALITY with FANTASY! It's hard, I know. You got a beautiful tenderoni that's pleasing you in every way and you want to lock it down. But you got to snap out of the dream world.

So before you succumb to the power of the pussy please click on that link below provided by Monger Extrodinare SavePro and snap back to reality.[/QUOTE]Sorry bro, but you are mad late cause this is the New Sosua where brothas make it rain in Clasicos and turn hoes into housewives.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1260039]Damn, I can't hate on the brotha for locking that down. Sosua will do that to you. I had to go and pull out my Slim Shady Anthem to remind me when I touch down that no matter how outstanding the head and chocha is from a chica:

[i]"I can't be your Superman.

Can't be your Superman.

Can't be your Superman.

Can't be your Superman.

I can't be your Superman.

Can't be your Superman.

Can't be your Superman.

Your Superman, your Superman."[/i]

[b]Superman. Eminem[/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRBqJCFTZVM[/url][/QUOTE]Savepro, I'm signing up for Capt-Save-A-Ho / Superman in training program, I'm heading for the nearest thrift store, and buying a Red Velvet Cape and Green tights, plus I'm gunna have several wedding rings stuft in my tights! Plus wearing some old school, bright flourescent, orange chuck taylors converses. Never fear Capt Save-A-Puta is hear. All ISG mongers are invited to a official Puta Saving and New Housewife program. Lmao

Words can not explain SOSUA. Never have I seen so many gorgeous women. Un real Eve

Words can not explain SOSUA. Never have I seen so many gorgeous women. Un real / I am

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1260011]Yeah there has been a lot of talk about her on the boards, especially about her getting engaged in Clasicos.[/QUOTE]When she was a Spice dancer Jan 2010 pics.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1260067]Sorry bro, but you are mad late cause this is the New Sosua where brothas make it rain in Clasicos and turn hoes into housewives.[/QUOTE]I second that, yesterday at Rumba Bar a girl told me, that she usually gets between 120-150 bucks for toda la noche. I told her to get lost and moved on. For a 150 bucks I pull the hottest chick from Passions in Santiago toda la noche, but not a Sosua streetwalker. I will be at Hermans Siempre Sol Bar all day long, in case some boardmembers are in town.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1260108]Words can not explain SOSUA. Never have I seen so many gorgeous women. Un real / I am[/QUOTE]During the weekend it is even better, last Sunday the beach was packed like during Semana Santa.

[QUOTE=Berthold;1260233]I second that, yesterday at Rumba Bar a girl told me, that she usually gets between 120-150 bucks for toda la noche. I told her to get lost and moved on. For a 150 bucks I pull the hottest chick from Passions in Santiago toda la noche, but not a Sosua streetwalker. I will be at Hermans Siempre Sol Bar all day long, in case some boardmembers are in town.[/QUOTE]LMAO, and people still say Sosua hasnt changed. Never heard such a price mentioned in the Old Sosua. But believe me, they are serious about getting these prices nowadays. Most guys arent doing TLN, so the girls now put a premium on it.

Most Sosua veterans only stop in Sosua to have a beer or to see old regulars. Sosua is now newbie heaven. Most newbies don't hold the line because they are glad to be fucking a hot Latina, and they would pay 200usd to bang a hot Latina in sex prison.

Sure there are a few veterans still stuck in Sosua that get cheap pussy, but they are just too lazy to go to other parts of the island for better quality at the same price or cheaper.

But guys please don't limit these over-payers to one race. The newbies come in all colors. Sosua is the new" Brazil light", so guys are just happy to have found the" Next spot". The key to this game is to make the " Next spot" your "Old Spot", but if your game isn't advanced you are just stuck.

[QUOTE=Berthold;1260233]I told her to [b]get lost[/b] and moved on.[/QUOTE]LOL! How does one say "get lost" in Spanish? I'm sure I will need to use that one a lot (if being quoted $150).

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1260256]LOL! How does one say "get lost" in Spanish? I'm sure I will need to use that one a lot (if being quoted $150).[/QUOTE]You can say "Debo Irme" That is you have to go.

Or "Vamos" with bass looking at the chica that means leave / get out of here.

Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1259962]...I take it you do not like FKKs.
BTW, if you are from Italy, care to try writing your next report in Italian? I could learn a few tricks from it! LOL.[/QUOTE]

It’s not that I didn’t enjoy FKKs, I had fun and they are pretty much how I expected them to be, but I guess that my personality tends more towards the open air, slightly raucous, tipsy fun. That said I’ve only done 3 FKKs in my life, so it’s not like I can be definitive about them.

As far as writing a report in Italian, that would be hard work! I only ever wrote about mongering in English, learning here on the ISG, and there are certain abbreviations, sayings, sexual expressions and related stuff in that language which I’m not sure how I could render in Italian, if at all.

[QUOTE=WSJ3; 1260287]You can say "Debo Irme" That is you have to go.

Or "Vamos" with bass looking at the chica that means leave / get out of here.

Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]I think "tengo que irme" means "I have to go".

"Debo" means "I should".

The best remedy would probably be just to say "No gracias. Es demasiado para mi" and then move to the next sexiest chica you see. That's what's so great about the massive amount of chicas in Sosua: options :).

Here is other one that you guys need to have as your slogan: "On to tha next one"

[b]On To The Next One - Jay-Z [/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM1RChZk1EU[/url]

I just took a look at the picture of some guy on his knees proposing. I can't believe that he went down there and put his superman cape on LOL. I guess she put something tuff on him. I'm waiting for my passport to head down there myself for the first time ever. While I'm waiting, I decided to get educated on how to conduct myself with the chicas down there, because I know me being a noobie could cause me problems. I thank you all for all the good knowledge you provide on this site. Trust me, when I get to sousua, I will not put my damn cape on and get on my knees like this. LOL.

[QUOTE=Coolie High; 1260058]DAMN the jokes! So your telling me that a grown ass man got down on one knee and proposed to a HO errr I mean Honey in Classicos? My DEAR GOD! Have he lost his got damn mind.

Gentlemen I know the power of pussy is strong, hell I even sent some WU money to a honey a time or two (monger Gods please forgive me) but do NOT mix reality with fantasy. I repeat, DO NOT mix REALITY with FANTASY! It's hard, I know. You got a beautiful tenderoni that's pleasing you in every way and you want to lock it down. But you got to snap out of the dream world.

So before you succumb to the power of the pussy please click on that link below provided by Monger Extrodinare SavePro and snap back to reality.

*My name is Coolie High and I endorse this message LOL*[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1260243]LMAO, and people still say Sosua hasnt changed. Never heard such a price mentioned in the Old Sosua. But believe me, they are serious about getting these prices nowadays. Most guys arent doing TLN, so the girls now put a premium on it.

Most Sosua veterans only stop in Sosua to have a beer or to see old regulars. Sosua is now newbie heaven. Most newbies don't hold the line because they are glad to be fucking a hot Latina, and they would pay 200usd to bang a hot Latina in sex prison.

Sure there are a few veterans still stuck in Sosua that get cheap pussy, but they are just too lazy to go to other parts of the island for better quality at the same price or cheaper.

But guys please don't limit these over-payers to one race. The newbies come in all colors. Sosua is the new" Brazil light", so guys are just happy to have found the" Next spot". The key to this game is to make the " Next spot" your "Old Spot", but if your game isn't advanced you are just stuck.[/QUOTE]I agree with you that this should not be concentrated on one race of guys that go above and beyond, or make it fucking rain. Listen, I'm a black guy form america, and I promise that you will not see me in a club making it rain. LOL

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1260407]I think "tengo que irme" means "I have to go".

"Debo" means "I should".

The best remedy would probably be just to say "No gracias. Es demasiado para mi" and then move to the next sexiest chica you see. That's what's so great about the massive amount of chicas in Sosua: options.

Here is other one that you guys need to have as your slogan: "On to tha next one"

[b]On To The Next One. Jay-Z [/b]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM1RChZk1EU[/url][/QUOTE]Vayate! Would be more to the point.

[QUOTE=MetcalfKieth; 1259508]So excited booked my flight from manchester 19/4/2012 cannot wait, anybody else in sosua on the 19th onwards I would love to meet up and have a drink will have lots of questions for the forum.

In the next month, but I will repay it when I get back with some info of my own.[/QUOTE]I'll be traveling to Sosua on 4/19/2012 as well staying at New Garden. I'm looking forward to the trip with it being my first time there and out of the country for that matter. I'm armed with knowledge and experiences of those who graciously share the do's and don't's on these boards. It's very much appreciated!

A First Time For Everything.

Day 1 : Midnight in the "New Garden" of Good and Evil.

Paid the 10 dollars just before immigration. 25 dollars for the taxi into town, then paid for the hotel in cash as opposed to credit card. Took about 10 minutes to fortify the hotel room before heading out into the street. My first time in the DR thus my first time in Sosua. I'm armed with pesos in my left hand and RTFF of the Sosua ISG board in my right hand. I memorized a map of the places I wanted to go so I confidently stepped out of the Terra Linda hotel and headed right. Shook my head to the money changers on the street, waved off to the Haitian gift shop hustlers, smiled to the massage offering chicas all while keeping my pace to the beach. Not alot of people on the beach (due to it being a Monday I was to find out later). Not alot of chicas for sure. I thought there would be more but ended up just walking the length and getting the lay of the land for what would be my landscape for the next 7 days. Decided to change the mission to a room supply run at the super mercado near Terra Linda. Passed by the New Garden Hotel along the way from the beach to there and was drawn in by the glad-eye being given to me by two chicas inside. I stepped in to engage them. One of them was dressed quite well in jewelry and sunglasses. I told her that she looked like a superstar. She told me that her pussy was a superstar. She's a keeper! They assisted me in getting the right supplies and with getting a phone and local sim card. I gave one of them the send off and took "superstar" back to my room. Heaven help the first girl I take back to the room on these ventures. Just spent 7 months in sex solitary confinement back home. Imagine a milkshake hitting the wall at 100 m. P. H. She took the full brunt like a champ though before being sent on her way.

The map that I had in my head lead me to La Passions in search of TLN for the night. I can surely say that I enjoyed the energy of the place and there was still enough talent left at 10pm when I arrived to make it just that much more interesting. Got a no pressure sale from Jenny (she looks just like Kelly Rowland) so paid the 3500 pesos for takeout for the night and off we went. We had a drink and listened to karaoke at El Flow and she danced for me and all up on me (very sexy) which prompted a strategic move back to the hotel room. My spanish is nil and so was her english so we used our smart phones to translate. Lost in translation. Pretty comical and a great time that was. She performed exactly like she danced. A good time for my first day ever in Sosua.

Day 2: Caribbean Men's Paradise Lost.

Fed Jenny in the morning at Bailey's (damn this girl looks just like Kelly Rowland) then she was on her way. Went back the room and passed out until noon and then headed to the beach. Still not that many women on the beach and the one's that were didn't catch my fancy so back to New Garden to see what was up. Superstar was there. She told me her pussy had a different name now. She called it tuna. A Marketing genius she was not but she was quick witted and fun and spoke excellent english. She would become my day girl for the rest of the week. My girl Friday as it were. I took her and her friend and we spent time at the beach. Had drinks and ate at the Italian restaurant that's at the end of the beach. We then moved on to El Flow for a few more drinks. All fun and laughs all day with these two. I sent the one packing again and took superstar (tuna) back to the room. She had a playlist on her phone of reggaeton that she like to have sex to. She struck up the playlist and went to work. Tempted to not send her off but was wanting to check out Caribbean Men's Paradise that night so off she went.

All in all was not impressed with Caribbean Men's Paradise. Struck me as a lower end La Passions but with more expensive prices. The girls just looked rough. I did pick a real pretty one (the only pretty one there to me) named Patty. She sat with me and kept rubbing my legs and arms and crotch. We left and I opted for some food at the restaurant next door. She wasn't hungry but she continued to rub me the same way as before all while I was trying to eat. Quite annoying. I get it already now give it break why don't you! Took Patty back to the room and that was when she decided she was hungry so had to hunt down some cheese dish for her. We eventually got down to it but I wasn't impressed. The insistence on a CBJ didn't help matters. In the morning I enjoyed watching her leave and wasn't sad to see her go either.

Day 3: In Search of some Big D!

No it's not what you think! I'm talking Big D's BBQ on the beach. Came across it during my RTFF of this forum and decided I'd look for it. I swung by New Garden to find my day girl there. She told me her pussy was named fuego that day. Sounded like more of a reason to go to a doctor more so than anything else but I went with it as she was the most attractive girl there. Went to the beach had a great time talking and drinking and enjoying life as it walked by us. We found Big D. Nice guy with an interesting story and great BBQ. Really not much to do in Sosua in the day so we headed to El Flow per usual for drinks and then back to my room where she broke me off quite nice.

I headed to Classicos after she left in order to see what all the talk was about. All in all I have got to say that I didn't find it all that enjoyable for the main reason being I just don't like night clubs all that much in general. I did however love the parade of absolutely beautiful women that passed their well stocked asses across my line of sight while I was there. I also enjoyed the sociological concepts that blanced together to solve the economic need of the chica to the fulfillment need of the men present to form this oasis of a meeting place called Classicos. Wound up taking a Haitian girl down to the bar below for a few drinks. My spanish is quite poor but I do speak French so I had no problems talking to the Haitian girls. I couldn't hear her anyway over that short mini-skirt, and magnificent ass that was struggling to break out from under it, that she was walking around with. Took her back to the room to take a closer look. That ass was so solid you could bounce a peso off it and was so dark light couldn't escape it. She wanted to do it outside on the balcony but she was waaaay to loud so we had to head back into the room to finish. C'est magnifique!

Day 4: Midnight Special (The System)

You guessed it. Spent the day with superstar (tuna, fuego). She showed up at 10am and we headed to Puerto Plata for the day. She told me her toto was named El Chupacabra that day. I don't know why I keep asking. We did the cable cars that day. Quite a mundane activity but she was so much fun as a person that I had a great time. Headed back to Sosua that evening, skipping the beach and El Flow, and went straight to Terra Linda. She went at it like a girl possessed. She basically whispered in my ear everything she was going to do in English, then in Spanish, and the proceeded to do it. She went for the Triple Crown. I felt like Seabiscuit. When she finally dismounted I banged my head on the door of my room while getting out of the bed. WTF? Turns out she had rode so hard she moved the bed 10 feet across the room where it now lay askew up against the wall on the other side of the room. Neither one of had noticed the journey we had take across the room. Needless to say I had her stay all night that night!

Day 5: Beware of Cougars.

Superstar headed back to Puerto Plata for a change of clothes the next morning so I headed to New Garden for a change of girls. Wound up settling on what turned out to be a handful. Within 5 minutes of talking to Eve I found out she was 32 and a grandmother as she had a daughter at 15 who then had a daughter at 15. She called her own daughter a * who fucked at 13 and even offered that same now 17 year old daughter to me as well if I liked. I told her no way due to the whole jail in a 3rd world country aspect that would come along with that but she insisted it was cool. Um. Hell no! We walked to the beach and she alternated between shoving her hand down my pants and her tongue down my throat all the way there. She whispered in my ear that she hadn't sucked any dick that day yet before shoving her tongue in my mouth to let me know it was all kosher. The only name I can think to describe her was working girl 2. 0. Anyway. Working girl 2. 0 was something to behold. She talked such that if she didn't say fuck every other sentence then somewhere a baby chick would die or something. She let it all hang out. I wanted to see the whole show so I pretty much let her know to be herself so she started writing down her number and handing it out to prospective clients at the beach. I just felt sorry for the top button of her blouse because it was strugglin hard as fuck to keep all that in that she was blessed with. Took her back to the room and she insisted that I make a video of everything we were about to do. I made an intro video of her buck naked spread eagle on the bed talking about what she was going to do then I filmed our whole encounter. When I took her back to New Garden she absolutely insisted that I show the video of everything we just did to all of her friends there. Whew! Superstar showed up just then to save me and we left to go have drinks at the beach. Food at the beach. Fun at the beach. Drinks at Rumba then have each other in my room at Terra Linda.

Day 6: Pass The Leche on The Left Hand Side.

Was sure to head back to La Passions this night. Had a long day and was looking to pick fast for all night and go. Showed up at about 10:00pm and saw exactly what I wanted at 10:01pm. She side glanced at me and I nodded at her. She side glanced again and I tipped my el presidente at her and she nodded ok uno momento. She seemed a lesson in rhythm in walking as she strode that magnificent body my way; jiggling all the way over. We talked for about 5 minutes before I politely asked her to leave with me for a drink somewhere else. I paid the 3500 but there was an issue right after that. As she was walking my fee back to the cashier some young guy grabbed her ass and used it to turn her around towards him. He brought her in and told her he was taking her out for the night. She smiled in a bit of distress and said someone (me) already paid 3500 for the night for her. He said he'd give her 7000 if she went with him. She said someone already paid for her. He then made a show of bringing out a wad of cash stating to her to forget me and go with him. She walked away from him and back towards me. As she was getting dressed to leave the other guy went over to talk to the manager. It was quite the show from where I was sitting. In the end the manager called her over and said it was her choice. She left with me leaving the guy there with his 6 friends holding his wad. We went out and drank for a bit but I couldn't stand looking at this girl who was just walking sexy in high heels, low tight pants, mid-riff shirt and hair down to her ass. As we walked by El Flow holding hands through the crowd another young guy just grabbed her in an attempt to pull he away from me to talk to her. She turned her nose up at him and pulled back. I've never seen such monger nonsense in my life. But. Damn she was a stunner. She was as sweet as could be. During our conversations she told me that she thought she was ugly. I started losing faith that women like her even still roamed this earth. Anyway. All went well that night. That ass was pitch perfect. I slapped it and nearly shattered all the wine glasses in my room as it resonated on such a natural frequency. Force = Mass x Acceleration. Before she left that morning I tipped her the difference of what that guy would have paid her as a remark to her lovely approach to me, her job, and her service.

Day 7:7 ways from Sunday.

Superstar (tuna, fuego, el chupacabra) showed up knowing this was my last day. She said she had something for me. No beach or El Flow or Passions or anything this day. We stayed in the room the whole day doing what came natural. She just wouldn't stop. She kept counting down the condoms I had with me trying to get me down to zero. We came up for air and food and that was about it. Sleep was no escape as on two occasions I woke up to her hijacking my hand while I was sleeping and using it to pleasure herself. When I tried to go back to sleep she grabbed the tv remote and finished the job on herself. This chica was unstoppable. Remarkable. Before I knew it the sun was coming up and my flight time was nearing. By this time she had worked me down to 1 condom left. She took it, wrote the new name for her pussy on it (La Cucaracha) and told me it was going to be the first one we used when I came back. C'est magnifique!

Epilogue:

I am a newbie to Sosua but by no means a rookie. I started traveling for "the hobby" about 13 years ago. Started off hitting some off during business trips to the middle-east (I started mongering in Israel of all places). Through business trips I eventually moved on to mongering in Korea, Japan, and China and such and a few spots in Europe. Been to Brazil once but my main spots have been Angeles City, Bangkok and Pattaya over the last few years with multiple extended trips there. Lower expenses, a less than 24 hour travel time, and curiosity has brought me to try out the Caribbean and I must say I thoroughly enjoyed Sosua for what it is. It's not the biggest when it comes to number of venues and venue types (Pattaya wins that hands down) but I enjoyed Sosua beach as well as the ladies themselves. I've never seen so much fine ass concentrated in a 1/2 mile radius in all my life. I'm African American so maybe it's just my addiction. Also maybe it's just me but on top of that I don't think I've ever been to a place on this planet where I just wanted to tittyfuck so much either. Sosua is the methadone to my Thai addiction. I just came back a few days ago and I still feel the lower back pain that my encounters with superstar left me with and I am now hanging to the right (it used to hang to left) but damn what a ride!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1260256]LOL! How does one say "get lost" in Spanish? I'm sure I will need to use that one a lot (if being quoted $150).[/QUOTE]You can just say "en tus suenos, nos vemos" and leave it there."In your dreams. See you." Next time she will come around.

[QUOTE=Berthold;1260233]I second that, yesterday at Rumba Bar a girl told me, that she usually gets between 120-150 bucks for toda la noche. I told her to get lost and moved on. For a 150 bucks I pull the hottest chick from Passions in Santiago toda la noche, but not a Sosua streetwalker. I will be at Hermans Siempre Sol Bar all day long, in case some boardmembers are in town.[/QUOTE]I've heard of the "old wives tale" of johns getting proposed 4000-5000 st. It's fucking really laughable. I met one dude in Classicos who paid 4000st. So these prices that are being thrown around $120-$150 really isn't that far-fetched because obviously some girls in Sosua are getting it so they think they know where the negotiation starting point is. Think about it, it's kind of a bargain for a monger paying $200 / hr in the USA but then again this is more of the weekend uninformed warrior.

As far as the "Chocha de Oro" syndrome is concerned. I find just a "No Gracias" "Are you fucking crazy?" look works every time. If that doesn't work and she's persistent a "no, no gracias estoy tacaño" along with a sarcastic grin works every time. Jeje LOL

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1260620]As far as the "Chocha de Oro" syndrome is concerned. I find just a "No Gracias" "Are you fucking crazy?" look works every time. If that doesn't work and she's persistent a "no, no gracias estoy tacaño" along with a sarcastic grin works every time. Jeje LOL[/QUOTE]Curious. To stick to the original question, is there really a good Spanish equivalent of "Get lost" that is equally forceful. The alternatives seen here below are all somewhat dulcet in comparison! But perhaps there is none.

[QUOTE=drai; 1260454]A First Time For Everything.

Day 1 : Midnight in the "New Garden" of Good and Evil. But damn what a ride![/QUOTE]Whoa! Felicitations, vraiment! I laughed and laughed all the way down to finish your report. Impeccable. This coming in the wake of another great report from another member. Ryo this week.

1. The milkshake analogy was fantastic. Speak of a picture being worth thousand words... and reminding me of high school physics of resonance and force being mass times acceleration! LOL.

2. The headings were rather interesting. From midnight in the garden to paradise lost. Very eloquent!

As I finished reading and thought about you walking with this pretty girl you were walking back with, who passed up other options to be with you, I thought to myself. Isn't it wonderful that God created this beautiful thing called women!

Our reports are getting always better. What fun reading and living vicariously!

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1260627]Curious. To stick to the original question, is there really a good Spanish equivalent of "Get lost" that is equally forceful. The alternatives seen here below are all somewhat dulcet in comparison! But perhaps there is none.[/QUOTE]Tempoecorto, you have always struck me as a very polite person, so the following is not especially aimed at you.

I see no upside whatever in being offensive to locals in the DR, unless you have so little self-esteem that you need to play the bully to get a hard on. Even with the most obnoxious pests (and there are plenty in Sosua and more than a few elsewhere) the best course is a smile and an unambiguous "no thanks". Dominicans have no self-esteem (rightly so in my opinion) and can be easily and deeply offended. The fact that they might be totally in the wrong is irrelevant. If you humiliate someone, especially in front of others, they will not brush it off or learn a lesson. They are likely to follow you around and try and make trouble or, at best, be a distraction or embarrassment.

I don't need to insult them to remind myself that life has dealt me a much better hand. There is nothing to be gained by being more "forceful". If they cannot accept a polite but clear refusal, stronger language will only encourage them to stick around and make an issue of it or try and get even another day.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1260627]Curious. To stick to the original question, is there really a good Spanish equivalent of "Get lost" that is equally forceful. The alternatives seen here below are all somewhat dulcet in comparison! But perhaps there is none.[/QUOTE]FUERA, SAL DE AQUI, LARGATE, all pretty forceful and might entice a rude and or physical confrontation from the puta, even though they are not actual swear words but the equivalents to "take a hike or a get lost"

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1260655]FUERA, SAL DE AQUI, LARGATE, all pretty forceful and might entice a rude and or physical confrontation from the puta, even though they are not actual swear words but the equivalents to "take a hike or a get lost"[/QUOTE]No me jodas, Don't fuck with me (is that a correct translation?) jodas sounds like ho-des.

[QUOTE=drai; 1260454]A First Time For Everything.

Day 1 : Midnight in the "New Garden" of Good and Evil.

Paid the 10 dollars just before immigration. 25 dollars for the taxi into town, then paid for the hotel in cash as opposed to credit card. Took about 10 minutes to fortify the hotel room before heading out into the street. My first time in the DR thus my first time in Sosua. I'm armed with pesos in my left hand and RTFF of the Sosua ISG board in my right hand. I memorized a map of the places I wanted to go so I confidently stepped out of the Terra Linda hotel and headed right. Shook my head to the money changers on the street, waved off to the Haitian gift shop hustlers, smiled to the massage offering chicas all while keeping my pace to the beach. Not alot of people on the beach (due to it being a Monday I was to find out later). Not alot of chicas for sure. I thought there would be more but ended up just walking the length and getting the lay of the land for what would be my landscape for the next 7 days. Decided to change the mission to a room supply run at the super mercado near Terra Linda. Passed by the New Garden Hotel along the way from the beach to there and was drawn in by the glad-eye being given to me by two chicas inside. I stepped in to engage them. One of them was dressed quite well in jewelry and sunglasses. I told her that she looked like a superstar. She told me that her pussy was a superstar. She's a keeper! They assisted me in getting the right supplies and with getting a phone and local sim card. I gave one of them the send off and took "superstar" back to my room. Heaven help the first girl I take back to the room on these ventures. Just spent 7 months in sex solitary confinement back home. Imagine a milkshake hitting the wall at 100 m. P. H. She took the full brunt like a champ though before being sent on her way.

The map that I had in my head lead me to La Passions in search of TLN for the night. I can surely say that I enjoyed the energy of the place and there was still enough talent left at 10pm when I arrived to make it just that much more interesting. Got a no pressure sale from Jenny (she looks just like Kelly Rowland) so paid the 3500 pesos for takeout for the night and off we went. We had a drink and listened to karaoke at El Flow and she danced for me and all up on me (very sexy) which prompted a strategic move back to the hotel room. My spanish is nil and so was her english so we used our smart phones to translate. Lost in translation. Pretty comical and a great time that was. She performed exactly like she danced. A good time for my first day ever in Sosua.

Day 2: Caribbean Men's Paradise Lost.

Fed Jenny in the morning at Bailey's (damn this girl looks just like Kelly Rowland) then she was on her way. Went back the room and passed out until noon and then headed to the beach. Still not that many women on the beach and the one's that were didn't catch my fancy so back to New Garden to see what was up. Superstar was there. She told me her pussy had a different name now. She called it tuna. A Marketing genius she was not but she was quick witted and fun and spoke excellent english. She would become my day girl for the rest of the week. My girl Friday as it were. I took her and her friend and we spent time at the beach. Had drinks and ate at the Italian restaurant that's at the end of the beach. We then moved on to El Flow for a few more drinks. All fun and laughs all day with these two. I sent the one packing again and took superstar (tuna) back to the room. She had a playlist on her phone of reggaeton that she like to have sex to. She struck up the playlist and went to work. Tempted to not send her off but was wanting to check out Caribbean Men's Paradise that night so off she went.

All in all was not impressed with Caribbean Men's Paradise. Struck me as a lower end La Passions but with more expensive prices. The girls just looked rough. I did pick a real pretty one (the only pretty one there to me) named Patty. She sat with me and kept rubbing my legs and arms and crotch. We left and I opted for some food at the restaurant next door. She wasn't hungry but she continued to rub me the same way as before all while I was trying to eat. Quite annoying. I get it already now give it break why don't you! Took Patty back to the room and that was when she decided she was hungry so had to hunt down some cheese dish for her. We eventually got down to it but I wasn't impressed. The insistence on a CBJ didn't help matters. In the morning I enjoyed watching her leave and wasn't sad to see her go either.

Day 3: In Search of some Big D!

No it's not what you think! I'm talking Big D's BBQ on the beach. Came across it during my RTFF of this forum and decided I'd look for it. I swung by New Garden to find my day girl there. She told me her pussy was named fuego that day. Sounded like more of a reason to go to a doctor more so than anything else but I went with it as she was the most attractive girl there. Went to the beach had a great time talking and drinking and enjoying life as it walked by us. We found Big D. Nice guy with an interesting story and great BBQ. Really not much to do in Sosua in the day so we headed to El Flow per usual for drinks and then back to my room where she broke me off quite nice.

I headed to Classicos after she left in order to see what all the talk was about. All in all I have got to say that I didn't find it all that enjoyable for the main reason being I just don't like night clubs all that much in general. I did however love the parade of absolutely beautiful women that passed their well stocked asses across my line of sight while I was there. I also enjoyed the sociological concepts that blanced together to solve the economic need of the chica to the fulfillment need of the men present to form this oasis of a meeting place called Classicos. Wound up taking a Haitian girl down to the bar below for a few drinks. My spanish is quite poor but I do speak French so I had no problems talking to the Haitian girls. I couldn't hear her anyway over that short mini-skirt, and magnificent ass that was struggling to break out from under it, that she was walking around with. Took her back to the room to take a closer look. That ass was so solid you could bounce a peso off it and was so dark light couldn't escape it. She wanted to do it outside on the balcony but she was waaaay to loud so we had to head back into the room to finish. C'est magnifique!

Day 4: Midnight Special (The System)

You guessed it. Spent the day with superstar (tuna, fuego). She showed up at 10am and we headed to Puerto Plata for the day. She told me her toto was named El Chupacabra that day. I don't know why I keep asking. We did the cable cars that day. Quite a mundane activity but she was so much fun as a person that I had a great time. Headed back to Sosua that evening, skipping the beach and El Flow, and went straight to Terra Linda. She went at it like a girl possessed. She basically whispered in my ear everything she was going to do in English, then in Spanish, and the proceeded to do it. She went for the Triple Crown. I felt like Seabiscuit. When she finally dismounted I banged my head on the door of my room while getting out of the bed. WTF? Turns out she had rode so hard she moved the bed 10 feet across the room where it now lay askew up against the wall on the other side of the room. Neither one of had noticed the journey we had take across the room. Needless to say I had her stay all night that night!

Day 5: Beware of Cougars.

Superstar headed back to Puerto Plata for a change of clothes the next morning so I headed to New Garden for a change of girls. Wound up settling on what turned out to be a handful. Within 5 minutes of talking to Eve I found out she was 32 and a grandmother as she had a daughter at 15 who then had a daughter at 15. She called her own daughter a * who fucked at 13 and even offered that same now 17 year old daughter to me as well if I liked. I told her no way due to the whole jail in a 3rd world country aspect that would come along with that but she insisted it was cool. Um. Hell no! We walked to the beach and she alternated between shoving her hand down my pants and her tongue down my throat all the way there. She whispered in my ear that she hadn't sucked any dick that day yet before shoving her tongue in my mouth to let me know it was all kosher. The only name I can think to describe her was working girl 2. 0. Anyway. Working girl 2. 0 was something to behold. She talked such that if she didn't say fuck every other sentence then somewhere a baby chick would die or something. She let it all hang out. I wanted to see the whole show so I pretty much let her know to be herself so she started writing down her number and handing it out to prospective clients at the beach. I just felt sorry for the top button of her blouse because it was strugglin hard as fuck to keep all that in that she was blessed with. Took her back to the room and she insisted that I make a video of everything we were about to do. I made an intro video of her buck naked spread eagle on the bed talking about what she was going to do then I filmed our whole encounter. When I took her back to New Garden she absolutely insisted that I show the video of everything we just did to all of her friends there. Whew! Superstar showed up just then to save me and we left to go have drinks at the beach. Food at the beach. Fun at the beach. Drinks at Rumba then have each other in my room at Terra Linda.

Day 6: Pass The Leche on The Left Hand Side.

Was sure to head back to La Passions this night. Had a long day and was looking to pick fast for all night and go. Showed up at about 10:00pm and saw exactly what I wanted at 10:01pm. She side glanced at me and I nodded at her. She side glanced again and I tipped my el presidente at her and she nodded ok uno momento. She seemed a lesson in rhythm in walking as she strode that magnificent body my way; jiggling all the way over. We talked for about 5 minutes before I politely asked her to leave with me for a drink somewhere else. I paid the 3500 but there was an issue right after that. As she was walking my fee back to the cashier some young guy grabbed her ass and used it to turn her around towards him. He brought her in and told her he was taking her out for the night. She smiled in a bit of distress and said someone (me) already paid 3500 for the night for her. He said he'd give her 7000 if she went with him. She said someone already paid for her. He then made a show of bringing out a wad of cash stating to her to forget me and go with him. She walked away from him and back towards me. As she was getting dressed to leave the other guy went over to talk to the manager. It was quite the show from where I was sitting. In the end the manager called her over and said it was her choice. She left with me leaving the guy there with his 6 friends holding his wad. We went out and drank for a bit but I couldn't stand looking at this girl who was just walking sexy in high heels, low tight pants, mid-riff shirt and hair down to her ass. As we walked by El Flow holding hands through the crowd another young guy just grabbed her in an attempt to pull he away from me to talk to her. She turned her nose up at him and pulled back. I've never seen such monger nonsense in my life. But. Damn she was a stunner. She was as sweet as could be. During our conversations she told me that she thought she was ugly. I started losing faith that women like her even still roamed this earth. Anyway. All went well that night. That ass was pitch perfect. I slapped it and nearly shattered all the wine glasses in my room as it resonated on such a natural frequency. Force = Mass x Acceleration. Before she left that morning I tipped her the difference of what that guy would have paid her as a remark to her lovely approach to me, her job, and her service.

Day 7:7 ways from Sunday.

Superstar (tuna, fuego, el chupacabra) showed up knowing this was my last day. She said she had something for me. No beach or El Flow or Passions or anything this day. We stayed in the room the whole day doing what came natural. She just wouldn't stop. She kept counting down the condoms I had with me trying to get me down to zero. We came up for air and food and that was about it. Sleep was no escape as on two occasions I woke up to her hijacking my hand while I was sleeping and using it to pleasure herself. When I tried to go back to sleep she grabbed the tv remote and finished the job on herself. This chica was unstoppable. Remarkable. Before I knew it the sun was coming up and my flight time was nearing. By this time she had worked me down to 1 condom left. She took it, wrote the new name for her pussy on it (La Cucaracha) and told me it was going to be the first one we used when I came back. C'est magnifique!

Epilogue:

I am a newbie to Sosua but by no means a rookie. I started traveling for "the hobby" about 13 years ago. Started off hitting some off during business trips to the middle-east (I started mongering in Israel of all places). Through business trips I eventually moved on to mongering in Korea, Japan, and China and such and a few spots in Europe. Been to Brazil once but my main spots have been Angeles City, Bangkok and Pattaya over the last few years with multiple extended trips there. Lower expenses, a less than 24 hour travel time, and curiosity has brought me to try out the Caribbean and I must say I thoroughly enjoyed Sosua for what it is. It's not the biggest when it comes to number of venues and venue types (Pattaya wins that hands down) but I enjoyed Sosua beach as well as the ladies themselves. I've never seen so much fine ass concentrated in a 1/2 mile radius in all my life. I'm African American so maybe it's just my addiction. Also maybe it's just me but on top of that I don't think I've ever been to a place on this planet where I just wanted to tittyfuck so much either. Sosua is the methadone to my Thai addiction. I just came back a few days ago and I still feel the lower back pain that my encounters with superstar left me with and I am now hanging to the right (it used to hang to left) but damn what a ride![/QUOTE]Another 5-Star posts! It was so good I had to quote the whole damn thing, LOL! Thanks for your contribution bro.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1260653]I don't need to insult them to remind myself that life has dealt me a much better hand. There is nothing to be gained by being more "forceful". If they cannot accept a polite but clear refusal, stronger language will only encourage them to stick around and make an issue of it or try and get even another day.[/QUOTE]I agree with this. If someone is really forceful and molestando mucho then if worst comes to worst just breaking eye contact and walking away can be quite effective. If nothing works tell them you have AIDS.

[QUOTE=drai; 1260454]A First Time For Everything.

snip...snip[/QUOTE]Hola Drai, great full report and looking forward to you posting here and there on the various ISG threads: pussy knows we need more experienced brothers with the ability to entertain.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1260653]Tempoecorto, you have always struck me as a very polite person, so the following is not especially aimed at you.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that.

For me it is just a matter of academic interest ( in the context of Spanish and not so much of the D.R) and curiosity as things often get lost in translation as you know. If a woman is indulgent enough to ask me for such a stratospheric sum, one would get a "no soy asi rico babe como piensas" but I do not have any immediate plans to engage in anything confrontational and I do not get drunk or high on other stuff. Women are good enough! LOL.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1260675]I agree with this. If someone is really forceful and molestando mucho then if worst comes to worst just breaking eye contact and walking away can be quite effective. If nothing works tell them you have AIDS.[/QUOTE]You and your deadpan humor. Love you for that. (smiley)

Drai, classy move giving the La Passions girl what she lost by passing up that guy and keeping her deal with you. Well done!

[QUOTE=drai;1260454]Sosua is the methadone to my Thai addiction.[/QUOTE]I understand that statement completely!

It was a great trip report. Now that you jumped out there strong with your first report, many of us will be looking for further TRs from you; don't let us down.

[QUOTE=David_33;1260713]Drai, classy move giving the La Passions girl what she lost by passing up that guy and keeping her deal with you. Well done![/QUOTE]I was thinking the same thing, as David the moderator wrote, what a elegant class act you were, in rewarding her loyalty, that part really caught my eye, about your report. Keep up the superb reporting, I can't wait untill your next report. If you want to feed our great report addiction, do like Coolie high, and the rest of the mongers, report day by day, keep us fiening for more. Great job my brother. Peace!

[QUOTE=David_33;1260713]Drai, classy move giving the La Passions girl what she lost by passing up that guy and keeping her deal with you. Well done![/QUOTE]Yes, I read and forgot about it. Completely agree that it was a classy move!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1260718]I understand that statement completely!

It was a great trip report. Now that you jumped out there strong with your first report, many of us will be looking for further TRs from you; don't let us down.[/QUOTE]Hear, Hear!

[QUOTE=Jaosousa;1260660]No me jodas, Don't fuck with me (is that a correct translation?) jodas sounds like ho-des.[/QUOTE]I am not sure but my understanding is joder in Spanish (as in Spain,) means fuck while in the D. R, it is something akin to "molestar". The whole of south america is another universe in terms of "Spanish", I guess!

This dude likes to make videos of Sosua. He sticks out like a sore thumb. Apparently, he got rolled up on yesterday. I won' say what's on my mind, but I'll let you guys check the video for yourself.

[url]http://youtu.be/4waPi9ldk_k[/url]

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1260653]I see no upside whatever in being offensive to locals in the DR, unless you have so little self-esteem that you need to play the bully to get a hard on. Even with the most obnoxious pests (and there are plenty in Sosua and more than a few elsewhere) the best course is a smile and an unambiguous "no thanks". Dominicans have no self-esteem (rightly so in my opinion) and can be easily and deeply offended. The fact that they might be totally in the wrong is irrelevant. If you humiliate someone, especially in front of others, they will not brush it off or learn a lesson. They are likely to follow you around and try and make trouble or, at best, be a distraction or embarrassment.

I don't need to insult them to remind myself that life has dealt me a much better hand. There is nothing to be gained by being more "forceful". If they cannot accept a polite but clear refusal, stronger language will only encourage them to stick around and make an issue of it or try and get even another day.[/QUOTE]I agree 100% with you Sir Pooter, and I hope that newbies will especially pay close attention to this advice. You will be harassed by street vendors, shoe-shine kids, agressive pros, change guys, etc. The best way to deal with all of them is to smile and simply say "No Gracias". Even if they are persistent they will eventually back off if you keep chanting "no gracias." No need to be an ass to anyone there. You will find that (most) are some of the nicest people you will every meet. To cop an attitude or to get ugly with them just makes you look tacky.

(I hope I don't get accused of "preaching" :()

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1260653]Dominicans have no self-esteem (rightly so in my opinion) and can be easily and deeply offended.[/QUOTE]Seeing as though you live there you will have a better perspective on this, but as an occasional visitor I've noticed quite the opposite. Well, at least from the chicas perspective. Most of them seem flattered that men are traveling half-way around the world to come to their island and seek them out (to pay for their wares). I would think that most of them are aware that they are attractive (especially if one compare herself to other chicas in terms of how sought after she is) and I think this is a big ego boost. Even the hustlers with the fitted-ball caps and hip-hop gear walk around like they've "got it going on" (and most of they probably do; some of them get lots of business from foreigners looking for "diamonds in the rough" (A*K*A* "semi or non-pros).

I've especially noted how proud the Haitians are despite their circumstances. In my newbie days when I would call ahead via SKYPE to have my tota on stand-by, I talked to one Haitiana with a 3yr old who's father was Dominican. She would always have her son repeat the word "Haitiano" to signify that she preferred him to identify with his Haitian roots. Even the young maintenance guy at Terra Linda seems to have high self esteem of himself. Often you would see him in Classico's later in the evening dressed up in jeans, a collar shirt, and a look that says "I'm about to get me some chocha tonight", LOL.

But those are just my observations as an outsider looking in.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1260655]FUERA, SAL DE AQUI, LARGATE, all pretty forceful and might entice a rude and or physical confrontation from the puta, even though they are not actual swear words but the equivalents to "take a hike or a get lost"[/QUOTE]Dejame en paz, leave me in peace (de-ha-mee). Dejame en paz, gracias.

[QUOTE=drai; 1260454]Day 6: Pass The Leche on The Left Hand Side.

Was sure to head back to La Passions this night. Had a long day and was looking to pick fast for all night and go. Showed up at about 10:00pm and saw exactly what I wanted at 10:01pm. She side glanced at me and I nodded at her. She side glanced again and I tipped my el presidente at her and she nodded ok uno momento. She seemed a lesson in rhythm in walking as she strode that magnificent body my way; jiggling all the way over. We talked for about 5 minutes before I politely asked her to leave with me for a drink somewhere else. I paid the 3500 but there was an issue right after that. As she was walking my fee back to the cashier some young guy grabbed her ass and used it to turn her around towards him. He brought her in and told her he was taking her out for the night. She smiled in a bit of distress and said someone (me) already paid 3500 for the night for her. He said he'd give her 7000 if she went with him. She said someone already paid for her. He then made a show of bringing out a wad of cash stating to her to forget me and go with him. She walked away from him and back towards me. As she was getting dressed to leave the other guy went over to talk to the manager. It was quite the show from where I was sitting. In the end the manager called her over and said it was her choice. She left with me leaving the guy there with his 6 friends holding his wad. We went out and drank for a bit but I couldn't stand looking at this girl who was just walking sexy in high heels, low tight pants, mid-riff shirt and hair down to her ass. As we walked by El Flow holding hands through the crowd another young guy just grabbed her in an attempt to pull he away from me to talk to her. She turned her nose up at him and pulled back. I've never seen such monger nonsense in my life. But. Damn she was a stunner. She was as sweet as could be. During our conversations she told me that she thought she was ugly. I started losing faith that women like her even still roamed this earth. Anyway. All went well that night. That ass was pitch perfect. I slapped it and nearly shattered all the wine glasses in my room as it resonated on such a natural frequency. Force = Mass x Acceleration. Before she left that morning I tipped her the difference of what that guy would have paid her as a remark to her lovely approach to me, her job, and her service.[/QUOTE]I like the way you handled this situation (minus giving her the "difference" part. A little to steep for my pockets :)). Especially with the dude in front of El Flow. If you want to talk about low self-esteem it would be a clown who flies all the way to the puta capital of the Caribbean and tries to strong-arm pussy that everybody and their father is paying for. I am willing to bet it was a little biyatch who only tried to pull that shit because his "crew" was around. If I know n!$$as (I've been Black all my life) , weaklings like this never try to pull this type of shit on their own (without their "boyz").

So yeah, no need to have gotten into a fight with this dude (or "Big Bank Hank" at La Passions) over a pro. Pretty Tony (from the movie "The Mack") would describe these dudes as "Car Thieves."

Does any have any good driver contacts in Sosua? I'm arriving on 4/19 at POP and need a dedicated driver when necessary while I'm there. Thank you in advance, it's appreciated.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1260745]I am not sure but my understanding is joder in Spanish (as in Spain,) means fuck while in the D. R, it is something akin to "molestar". The whole of south america is another universe in terms of "Spanish", I guess![/QUOTE]Sorry for trolling. I dream of going to the DR so I pop over from time to time.

I have used and have been told the Joder is used like "You fucked up the plans by being late" or in the case above "don't fuck with me". Not fuck like the "OH FUCK!" or "let's fuck"

But then again every Spanish speaking country has their own words and ways of saying things.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1260745]I am not sure but my understanding is joder in Spanish (as in Spain,) means fuck while in the D. R, it is something akin to "molestar". The whole of south america is another universe in terms of "Spanish", I guess![/QUOTE]So, tomorrow is the big day and by this time tomorrow I will be smacking Dr Ass. LOL. Super excited to be taking my first Sosua adventure, and want to thank all you guys for all your help and insight. I hope to have nice pics and crazy stories. I figure between us 3 guys we should be able to come up with at least a couple of shots worthy of the pic gallery.

@Tempeocorto- The Cuban version of molestar is also Joder, but you are correct in your assumption of South American and Puerto Rican (I believe) Spanish. For them it is a more severe bothering or harassing. They use " fregar " like we use joder." no me Frieges " means don't bother me. Us Cubans use " Joder " quite liberaly and pluratively. We also use it like "Nada mas que te estoy jodiendo " to mean " I am only messing with you " Joder, like messing with or teasing. We also use like " you fucked me over or dooped me " like " me jodiste cuando te llevaste mi caro sin decirme " meaning " you really fucked me up, by taking my car without telling me ". The slang is eternal, for instance Cubans use the word " bicho " to mean bug or little creature, but for Puerto Ricans it means Dick, as in cock. LOL. I can understand how a gallego can get lost in it. LOL.

Azazel

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1260653]Dominicans have no self-esteem (rightly so in my opinion)[/QUOTE]You continue to prove, that you are no different than soccer hooligans, skinheads or the people who looted, stole, burned and assaulted people last summer in the United Kingdom.

You know very few Dominicans, so your comments and observations wherein you state ALL Dominicans are this or that, those comments of yours are worthless.

Does it help your self esteem to insult all Dominicans?

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1260820]You continue to prove, that you are no different than soccer hooligans, skinheads or the people who looted, stole, burned and assaulted people last summer in the United Kingdom.

You know very few Dominicans, so your comments and observations wherein you state ALL Dominicans are this or that, those comments of yours are worthless.

Does it help your self esteem to insult all Dominicans?[/QUOTE]WOW! You came on strong Jao. Kudos to you. I held a lot of restraint not to respond to this statement. I had so many thoughts about this, but personally I want to stay away from the politicking and debates on this forum. This forum really should be all about exchanging info about finding p4p.

First of all that was a blanket statement, a slur. And what qualifies Mr Pooter to make an absurd call about a whole population? After all, in my opinion he is living there to find cheap pussy, talks a lot about his self esteem.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1260758]Seeing as though you live there you will have a better perspective on this, but as an occasional visitor I've noticed quite the opposite. Well, at least from the chicas perspective. Most of them seem flattered that men are traveling half-way around the world to come to their island and seek them out (to pay for their wares). I would think that most of them are aware that they are attractive (especially if one compare herself to other chicas in terms of how sought after she is) and I think this is a big ego boost. Even the hustlers with the fitted-ball caps and hip-hop gear walk around like they've "got it going on" (and most of they probably do; some of them get lots of business from foreigners looking for "diamonds in the rough" (A*K*A* "semi or non-pros).[/QUOTE]I don't think this issue can ever be resolved, because people have different ideas about what "self esteem" means, but in general a person who feels a need to act collectively as part of a group, or to adopt the manner of dress of musicians or sportsmen whom he admires may be regarded as lacking in self esteem, especially if the behavior continues past adolescence into adulthood. The waters are further muddied by the fact that people with low self esteem often aggressively overcompensate, for example by sexual acting out. Whether it is better to have high self esteem or low self esteem is a moot point. Most religions lean towards learning to submit the selfish ego to the greater good.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1260752]This dude likes to make videos of Sosua. He sticks out like a sore thumb. Apparently, he got rolled up on yesterday. I won' say what's on my mind, but I'll let you guys check the video for yourself.

[url]http://youtu.be/4waPi9ldk_k[/url][/QUOTE]Andy stays in really low budget hotels, spending about $300 / month max. He is usually not in tourist areas. When he was in Sosua a few weeks back he visited New Garden quite often but had an apartment elsewhere. I was always surprised he had not been robbed yet.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1260256]LOL! How does one say "get lost" in Spanish? I'm sure I will need to use that one a lot (if being quoted $150).[/QUOTE]Here in the D. R. You would say sueltame en banda.

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[QUOTE=Kman1; 1260845]This forum really should be all about exchanging info about finding p4p.

First of all that was a blanket statement, a slur. And what qualifies Mr Pooter to make an absurd call about a whole population? After all, in my opinion he is living there to find cheap pussy, talks a lot about his self esteem.[/QUOTE]Kman1: I respectfully disagree. As far as I am concerned, this forum for me is like exchanging notes between fellow travelers as they traverse. Sex is obviously the central theme but, we, humans have not stuck to the bare essentials but have embellished it many ways, from furtive looksto food to music and dance to enhance our senses. Add to that, the personal philosophies we represent, it creates an admixture that can be enriching. At least it is for me, when I read exchanges where I can also learn from. Otherwise, there is not much to go by. It is all repeat stuff whether in the D. R or in Timbucktoo. Besides, bare sex is anything but titillating...same old wham bam.

As far as Charles Pooter, I agree that he could have avoided a "blanket" statement adding "in my opinion" to the offending sentence. After all, we are all entitled to our opinions but as much as I would like to think I am not biased,"a clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory". At least I do not belong to that club.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto; 1260634]Whoa! Felicitations, vraiment! I laughed and laughed all the way down to finish your report. Impeccable. This coming in the wake of another great report from another member. Ryo this week.

1. The milkshake analogy was fantastic. Speak of a picture being worth thousand words. And reminding me of high school physics of resonance and force being mass times acceleration! LOL.

2. The headings were rather interesting. From midnight in the garden to paradise lost. Very eloquent!

As I finished reading and thought about you walking with this pretty girl you were walking back with, who passed up other options to be with you, I thought to myself. Isn't it wonderful that God created this beautiful thing called women!

Our reports are getting always better. What fun reading and living vicariously![/QUOTE]Thanks!

If I were to include a bibliography to that trip report I'd defintely would have had to lay reference to the gold mine of information on this board. I read through the many posts by yourself, SavePros321, Tomjackin, Deepmpact, Jaosousa, Ryo Saeba and the other "mayors" of this board. I studied for about a month but didn't want to post really until having something to contribute first. Definitely cut down on the mistakes.

[QUOTE=Azazel42; 1260805]@Tempeocorto- The Cuban version of molestar is also Joder, but you are correct in your assumption of South American and Puerto Rican (I believe) Spanish.

Azazel[/QUOTE]That was lovely learning! The beauty of a language. On that note, here is a link to a video of a love story between a Cuban and a Yank. I just love the color, the music and the poetry. The interesting link here is that the woman, the Cuban, apparently is some famous Dominican model. She is just plain gorgeous!

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6PXwxi4eJI&feature=BFa&list=PL93E3A5F9FFEB19FB&lf=mh_lolz[/url]


P.S.: What pray is a "gallego"?

[QUOTE=Ryo Saeba;1260699]Hola Drai, great full report and looking forward to you posting here and there on the various ISG threads: pussy knows we need more experienced brothers with the ability to entertain.[/QUOTE]"Pussy knows" LOL!

[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1260718]I understand that statement completely!

It was a great trip report. Now that you jumped out there strong with your first report, many of us will be looking for further TRs from you; don't let us down.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=DeepMmpactt;1260738]I was thinking the same thing, as David the moderator wrote, what a elegant class act you were, in rewarding her loyalty, that part really caught my eye, about your report. Keep up the superb reporting, I can't wait untill your next report. If you want to feed our great report addiction, do like Coolie high, and the rest of the mongers, report day by day, keep us fiening for more. Great job my brother. Peace![/QUOTE]Thanks. Just trying to give back all that I've been taking from this board from the past month or so. This is my first report on this site but I've written a number on another site (stickman). Looking forward to having more to write about. I actually did wake up every morning and jotted down some notes while I was in Sosua in preparation for writing a trip report when I came back for this board. I have noticed quite a few new comers like myself to this board posting questions in preparation for their missions. Sounds like there may be more new chapters to come once they come back and lay witness. Stay tuned.

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1260766]I like the way you handled this situation (minus giving her the "difference" part. A little to steep for my pockets.). Especially with the dude in front of El Flow. If you want to talk about low self-esteem it would be a clown who flies all the way to the puta capital of the Caribbean and tries to strong-arm pussy that everybody and their father is paying for. I am willing to bet it was a little biyatch who only tried to pull that shit because his "crew" was around. If I know and! $$as (I've been Black all my life) , weaklings like this never try to pull this type of shit on their own (without their "boyz").

So yeah, no need to have gotten into a fight with this dude (or "Big Bank Hank" at La Passions) over a pro. Pretty Tony (from the movie "The Mack") would describe these dudes as "Car Thieves."[/QUOTE]LOL! Direct hit on that observation. That's exactly what that situation was. I've seen that type of behavior back home (Chicago) but never seen it with such open air free-range ass roaming about to choose from. If anything just approach the monger discreetly and inquire as to where he got her from and get in line for your turn. Pound the pavement to bag your prototype as opposed to trying to poach.

Interesting thing is that I am a solo traveler. I used to try and campaign my friends to come with me but I always get excuses like "I don't know how to get a passport", or "I don't have the cash", or "I just got ordained" (ok, that last one was legit) but I always do this alone. I rely solely on the girls for company really so my interaction with the interloper at La Passions and the interloper at El Flow were the only interactions I had with other mongers on this trip.

Well.

I did have a situation though where I was approached by middle aged gentlemen in the lobby of Terra Linda. I was walking in with the La Passions girl after breakfast and he flagged me down and walked purposefully right up to me. Here is a transcript of our conversation:

Flagger: Hey man wait up. Where are you going?

Drai: Ummm. To my room here at the hotel.

Flagger: Man. I've been seeing you everywhere I go.

Drai: huh?

Flagger: Yeah dude, been seeing you at the beach, New Garden, El Flow, La Passions.

Drai: Oh, you mean we end up at the same places. We must have the same flight pattern.

Flagger: Yeah dude at first but then I started following you dude. I kept seeing you with a different chica every day and night so I was like following you dude just to see where you getting them from.

Drai: huh? (WTF!)

Stalker: No Leche man!

Drai: huh?

Stalker: (as he leans in closer) What are you taking? I'm on Cialis and it works. Works fucking awesome man. Keeps me UP and everything but I have no leche. Know what I mean.

Drai: leche you say? (me backing away slowly)

Creepy Stalker: How about you? How do you do it? What are you on dude?

Drai: I'm on that stuff right there (I turn and point at La Passion girl who is starting to get impatient)

Possible Serial Killer: Oh yeah. I like 'them built like that too. So listen. Maybe we can hang out and go and.

I didn't hear the rest as I had burnt out and was halfway back to my room with La Passion girl before he could matriculate that thought.

My flight is from manchester at 09. 30 this is my 3rd mongering trip have been to Pattaya and phuket, will you be flying from manchester also.

[QUOTE=TheConcierge;1260445]I'll be traveling to Sosua on 4/19/2012 as well staying at New Garden. I'm looking forward to the trip with it being my first time there and out of the country for that matter. I'm armed with knowledge and experiences of those who graciously share the do's and don't's on these boards. It's very much appreciated![/QUOTE]

Here is a pretty nice vid montage of Sosua. If you check his other vids, you will see that this brotha is also making commercial vids and DVDs with the regular street girls of Sosua. Some pics on his site look like they have been lifted from pics guys post and FB. Just sharing this information since some of you might know these people. Not sure if these type of dudes will make it harder for regular dudes to take pics in the future. Welcome to the New Sosua!

[url]http://youtu.be/phEgbHmwE28[/url]

[QUOTE=drai; 1261077]

Interesting thing is that I am a solo traveler. I used to try and campaign my friends to come with me but I always get excuses like "I don't know how to get a passport", or "I don't have the cash", or "I just got ordained" (ok, that last one was legit) but I always do this alone. I rely solely on the girls for company really so my interaction with the interloper at La Passions and the interloper at El Flow were the only interactions I had with other mongers on this trip.[/QUOTE]Drai, do not know what you do for a living but perhaps a second line of stand up comedy writing is warranted? Laughed my gut out reading your interaction with the other person. But started with the "ordaining" bit. LOL.

It is funny because as you pointed out Ryo too has a keen sense of humor with his "pussy knows" and this is added to another regular contributor Frannie, who kills me with his deadpan English humor. And there are others too. What strikes me is that such writing calls for an acute insight and observation without a jaundiced eye and that is why I loved it. May your tribe increase!

No leche is a common problem in Sosua. If your dick is not sucked twice a day you aint trying. I had 3 girls whose combined age exceeded mine by years by 3. I am 56. 2 were 19 1 was 20. I have pictures to prove it. Classicos is an amazing place. If you like brown women Iam not sure where you can do better. I pulled A 3 some from there but just walking the joint was great. I like many others needed to call the leche man. Popi is dry. I have never been a sport fucker but I wanted to give it a try.

For what it was it was fine. I hooked up with a wing man which made everything more fun. End of the day I went to San francisco Marconis to see a nice normal girl. I have to say the sex is fantastic. Put me down for GFE.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1260996]As far as Charles Pooter, I agree that he could have avoided a "blanket" statement adding "in my opinion" to the offending sentence. After all, we are all entitled to our opinions but as much as I would like to think I am not biased,"a clear conscience is the sign of a fuzzy memory". At least I do not belong to that club.[/QUOTE]I think what has been overlooked by those whose desire to protect the Dominican people from the verbal barbs of Mr. Pooter is that Mr. Pooter's original point was that one should beware of using abusive language because many of the people one meets in a prostitution environment may be very vulnerable individuals, and there is no point in unnecessarily saying hurtful things because you want to get rid of somebody. He may have widened the scope of his remarks rather more than necessary, but I don't think this puts him on a par with violent criminals, robber, muggers, and arsonists, as some have suggested.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1261370]I think what has been overlooked by those whose desire to protect the Dominican people from the verbal barbs of Mr. Pooter is that Mr. Pooter's original point was that one should beware of using abusive language because many of the people one meets in a prostitution environment may be very vulnerable individuals, and there is no point in unnecessarily saying hurtful things because you want to get rid of somebody. He may have widened the scope of his remarks rather more than necessary, but I don't think this puts him on a par with violent criminals, robber, muggers, and arsonists, as some have suggested.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1260627]Curious. To stick to the original question, is there really a good Spanish equivalent of "Get lost" that is equally forceful. The alternatives seen here below are all somewhat dulcet in comparison! But perhaps there is none.[/QUOTE]ISG member Tempoecorto asked for a forceful way to say get lost in Spanish.

Charles Pooter has in numerous posts tried to insult Dominicans. In his latest belligerent post, Charles Pooter stated to the effect that Dominicans should have no self-esteem (no self-worth) , which is another way of saying Dominicans are useless and worthless. Taken with his other prior derogatory remarks about Dominicans, it is obvious Charles Pooter sees Dominicans as less than human, he is dehumanizing Dominicans (same as Hitler and his cronies did with the Jews, same as slave owners did with their slaves and there are other examples throughout history).

Soccer hooligans see supporters of other teams as less than human and worthy of being violently attacked. Some Skinheads same thing, against Asians. The people who set fires, looted and assaulted other people last summer in Great Britain, did not give a shit about the property owners or the people they assaulted and clearly saw them as not requiring respect (people seen as less than human don't require much respect).

But you, in your need to defend a fellow person from your home country, you try to defend the indefensible and you are just as much a part of the problem. Maybe the racist spewing former English soccer captain John Terry, can buy you a drink.

[QUOTE=pr; 1261446]ISG member Tempoecorto asked for a forceful way to say get lost in Spanish.

Charles Pooter has in numerous posts tried to insult Dominicans. In his latest belligerent post, Charles Pooter stated to the effect that Dominicans should have no self-esteem (no self-worth) , which is another way of saying Dominicans are useless and worthless. Taken with his other prior derogatory remarks about Dominicans, it is obvious Charles Pooter sees Dominicans as less than human, he is dehumanizing Dominicans (same as Hitler and his cronies did with the Jews, same as slave owners did with their slaves and there are other examples throughout history).

Soccer hooligans see supporters of other teams as less than human and worthy of being violently attacked. Some Skinheads same thing, against Asians. The people who set fires, looted and assaulted other people last summer in Great Britain, did not give a shit about the property owners or the people they assaulted and clearly saw them as not requiring respect (people seen as less than human don't require much respect).

But you, in your need to defend a fellow person from your home country, you try to defend the indefensible and you are just as much a part of the problem. Maybe the racist spewing former English soccer captain John Terry, can buy you a drink.[/QUOTE]I've tried very hard to stay out of all the bullshit on the forum. I understand that the forum is currently going through a new cycle. The newbie reports are very good now so I just play the sidelines.

I don't want to wade to much on the negativity currently on this board. But I can no longer remain silent. Jao has his opinion and I feel what he is saying, but there are many things that go on behind the scenes that most people don't know about. I wanted to get other veterans who no longer post here, and I consider my mentors, opinions on Mr Pooter.

I asked them is it white guilt that is Mr Pooters motivation to gravitate to the Haitians and from the Dominicans? Their response shocked me. Please understand that these are guys that know the "Real deal". And I had my doubts about his sincereity.

Mr Pooter is much more than just a blog poster. He is heavily involved in the community, for the Haitians. I don't want to tell much of his business, but I will tell some so people will judge fairly. Mr Pooter sponsors a Haitian school from what I was told. He also invested in FOD resort that many mongerers visited. And three people told me that if they got in a jam that Sir Charles would be the man they would call on the North Coast to get out of trouble. They also say that when he retired he gravitated instantly to the Haitian community. And I know a few Haitian girls who say he is genuine.

Sure his old fashioned British ways rub people the wrong way, but to many people he an asset on the North Coast.

Dude, that was an excellent trip report. You just inspired me to produce a trip report sometime in the near future. I planning a trip for July, and I can't wait to see what all the talk is about. All I can do at the moment is look at youtube vids of these various clubs out there, while I'm patiently waiting for my damn passport. The first place I will be hitting is La Passions. Hopefully I won't OD on the chocha out there. Again, good report.

[QUOTE=drai; 1260454]A First Time For Everything.

Day 1 : Midnight in the "New Garden" of Good and Evil.

Paid the 10 dollars just before immigration. 25 dollars for the taxi into town, then paid for the hotel in cash as opposed to credit card. Took about 10 minutes to fortify the hotel room before heading out into the street. My first time in the DR thus my first time in Sosua. I'm armed with pesos in my left hand and RTFF of the Sosua ISG board in my right hand. I memorized a map of the places I wanted to go so I confidently stepped out of the Terra Linda hotel and headed right...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheConcierge;1260445]I'll be traveling to Sosua on 4/19/2012 as well staying at New Garden. I'm looking forward to the trip with it being my first time there and out of the country for that matter. I'm armed with knowledge and experiences of those who graciously share the do's and don't's on these boards. It's very much appreciated![/QUOTE]I can't wait to see your trip report. I'm headed out there in July. Until then, I'm getting my pimsleur espanol on, studying hard. LOL

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1261446]Taken with his other prior derogatory remarks about Dominicans, it is obvious Charles Pooter sees Dominicans as less than human, he is dehumanizing Dominicans (same as Hitler and his cronies did with the Jews, same as slave owners did with their slaves and there are other examples throughout history).

But you, in your need to defend a fellow person from your home country, you try to defend the indefensible and you are just as much a part of the problem. Maybe the racist spewing former English soccer captain John Terry, can buy you a drink.[/QUOTE]John Terry is a potty-mouthed obnoxious creep, and since he plays for Chelsea it is probably quite accurate to say that he is not a card-carrying member of homo sapiens, but he is hardly in the same league as Hitler, (who never played in the English Premier League). I am not sure whether Mr. Pooter is saying that Dominicans are subhuman or all too human, but he is saying that one should be kind to them, not send them to gas chambers. A subtle difference, to be sure.

Hi dear Mongers, I am planning to travel to DR in late April. I read many reports here in the forum and they are as always in ISG very helpfull ofcourse. I would like to ask if someone knows where or has information about renting a house or a vila with a private pool that is safe. The pool must be kinda hidden, since it is where I want to have all my action.

Thanks

Easyease

I'll be flying from Miami, FL leaving at 12:05pm arriving at POP at 2:05pm on American Airlines.

[QUOTE=MetcalfKieth;1261220]My flight is from manchester at 09. 30 this is my 3rd mongering trip have been to Pattaya and phuket, will you be flying from manchester also.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1261446]ISG member Tempoecorto asked for a forceful way to say get lost in Spanish.

Charles Pooter has in numerous posts tried to insult Dominicans.[/QUOTE]I normally avoid the negative stuff that rears its head at times. Let me say that I have had private, helpful comments and advice from Jaosousa. Also, let me say that I have met Charles Pooter, been a guest in his apartment, and had personal conversations with him. Jaosousa is right on the vast majority of occasions on this board; however, he is wrong here.

Charles Pooter took a personal interest in my well-being when he thought, although erroneously, that I was new to POP and ran the risk of associating with a local who could get me into deep trouble. Charles pulled me aside to ensure that I did not get into trouble. While his direct tone might alarm those who do not know him-and perhaps he is a bit too direct at times-he genuinely has an interest in helping people. One cannot read too much into his comments. After all, those who ply the trade, as a general rule, do possess a lowered self-esteem. That does not mean that they are inferior, or that they should be exploited. Perhaps, Charles should have added the latter half to his comments, but it goes without saying for him. I know that it does. We have talked about these things. I know that he helps the Haitians, who are an oppressed class like you would not believe within the DR.

Professor 1

Heading to Sosua in a couple months for my first visit. Usually travel to SXM or CUR, where speaking just a little Spanish is no big deal to get around the island. The chica bars there are for the most part,"eat in" as oppose to "take out" and my limited Spanish gets me by.

I am a little anxious about my first trip, but understand you can get around fine, knowing little to no Spanish. I keep reading posts about getting a "mongering phone" to get chicas numbers for the slower daytime action, and for future hook ups on your trip. My question is if you speak limited Spanish, and most chicas speak limited English, how do you talk to a girl on your phone about setting something up? Sounds like you may think you are arranging a date for a certain place / time, and it could be a totally different date / time. Could someone give me an explanation of this? Not sure if I will be using a phone, but an explanation of this method may change my mind.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1261736]Heading to Sosua in a couple months for my first visit. Usually travel to SXM or CUR, where speaking just a little Spanish is no big deal to get around the island. The chica bars there are for the most part,"eat in" as oppose to "take out" and my limited Spanish gets me by.

I am a little anxious about my first trip, but understand you can get around fine, knowing little to no Spanish. I keep reading posts about getting a "mongering phone" to get chicas numbers for the slower daytime action, and for future hook ups on your trip. My question is if you speak limited Spanish, and most chicas speak limited English, how do you talk to a girl on your phone about setting something up? Sounds like you may think you are arranging a date for a certain place / time, and it could be a totally different date / time. Could someone give me an explanation of this? Not sure if I will be using a phone, but an explanation of this method may change my mind.[/QUOTE]The phone comes in handy in a number of situations. For example, if you are out late and need a taxi, you can call one that speaks English. Also, although I speak Spanish, you can text the girls. This comes in handy when you want to meet them somewhere and have a map. I met a girl who spoke no English and horrible Spanish. However, she texted me to meet at Mega Centro in Santo Domingo at the Puerto del Sol. This made it easy for both of us, because it was difficult to understand her on the phone. I carry my local phone for safety as well as for the chicas. I have a police officer friend, for example, in my contacts as well as the Politur number.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer; 1261736]Heading to Sosua in a couple months for my first visit. Usually travel to SXM or CUR, where speaking just a little Spanish is no big deal to get around the island. The chica bars there are for the most part,"eat in" as oppose to "take out" and my limited Spanish gets me by.

I am a little anxious about my first trip, but understand you can get around fine, knowing little to no Spanish. I keep reading posts about getting a "mongering phone" to get chicas numbers for the slower daytime action, and for future hook ups on your trip. My question is if you speak limited Spanish, and most chicas speak limited English, how do you talk to a girl on your phone about setting something up? Sounds like you may think you are arranging a date for a certain place / time, and it could be a totally different date / time. Could someone give me an explanation of this? Not sure if I will be using a phone, but an explanation of this method may change my mind.[/QUOTE]You don't really need a phone on a first visit, and you can always come and then get a phone if you really think you need it. You don't need much Spanish to make a date if you have a phone. The girl will recognize your number on the phone and will be keen to make a sale. You need to know a few numbers to state the time of the meeting, and then you can say "mi hotel","Bailey's","Classico","Merengue Bar","la playa", or something. Then if she say OK, bueno, or repeats the time or something, then she is coming. Also there are Internet cafes where you can run Google Translate and enter a phrase and write it down. Actually Google Translate will even speak the phrase for you, so you could dictate it into a phone, (though I have not tried this.) Spanish is not terribly difficult and many words are the same or similar to the same word in English. The girls will also often know a few words of English, line the numbers 1-12, which can help. Other useful words are "hoy" (pronounced OY) for today,"manana" for tomorrow (but also can mean morning),"tarde" (between midday and sunset) , and "esta noche" = tonight. Even if the arrangements on the phone get screwed up, SHE WILL FIND YOU EVEN IF YOU ARE IN THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME AND WITH ANOTHER GIRL, count on it. You are the hunted, not the hunter.

Anyway, if you still have a couple of months, that is plenty of time to learn BASIC Spanish conversation.

[QUOTE=Professor 1; 1261733]I normally avoid the negative stuff that rears its head at times. Let me say that I have had private, helpful comments and advice from Jaosousa. Also, let me say that I have met Charles Pooter, been a guest in his apartment, and had personal conversations with him. Jaosousa is right on the vast majority of occasions on this board; however, he is wrong here.

Charles Pooter took a personal interest in my well-being when he thought, although erroneously, that I was new to POP and ran the risk of associating with a local who could get me into deep trouble. Charles pulled me aside to ensure that I did not get into trouble. While his direct tone might alarm those who do not know him-and perhaps he is a bit too direct at times-he genuinely has an interest in helping people. One cannot read too much into his comments. After all, those who ply the trade, as a general rule, do possess a lowered self-esteem. That does not mean that they are inferior, or that they should be exploited. Perhaps, Charles should have added the latter half to his comments, but it goes without saying for him. I know that it does. We have talked about these things. I know that he helps the Haitians, who are an oppressed class like you would not believe within the DR.

Professor 1[/QUOTE]Charles Pooter has written numerous posts insulting Dominicans and the United States (I. E, baseball is a minority sport). If something negative is posted about Haitians, Pooter has no problem problem saying the conversation is racist. Pooter has boasted that he used to be a proofreader, so Pooter is exactly certain how his posts will be read. Pooter never comes back to qualify or correct any of his posts. Pooter hates Dominicans, Pooter probably dislikes Americans.

Iam going to Sosua for the first time. I have been to CR. DR. And LH. Is Passion the same as LH. Ordo you pay extra after the massage. Hotel I have pick three hotel which oneshould IStay That is girls frendy. Sea Beeze, Sosua at the Beach, or New Gerdens Hotels. Club I Like dancing where can I go for daning.

Thank you

[QUOTE=Easyease; 1261668]Hi dear Mongers, I am planning to travel to DR in late April. I read many reports here in the forum and they are as always in ISG very helpfull ofcourse. I would like to ask if someone knows where or has information about renting a house or a vila with a private pool that is safe. The pool must be kinda hidden, since it is where I want to have all my action.

Thanks.

Easyease[/QUOTE]PM either Coolie High or Manizales911. They have the most experience with renting villas.

[QUOTE=Frannie; 1261744]Even if the arrangements on the phone get screwed up, SHE WILL FIND YOU EVEN IF YOU ARE IN THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME AND WITH ANOTHER GIRL, count on it. You are the hunted, not the hunter.

Anyway, if you still have a couple of months, that is plenty of time to learn BASIC Spanish conversation.[/QUOTE]

Amen to that, LOL! Cell phones can actually make things more complicated if you are not careful because the chicas are notorious for being late. One time I called a chica to meet me at Terra Linda and waited for her in the lobby (said she was at the beach and was on her way). After waiting for about 15-20 minutes I got the impression that she wasn't going to show up and I went back to my room and called another chica. Of course when I walked back down to the lobby there was the first chica I had called waiting on me. I then had to call back the second chica and make up some bullshit excuse as to why she couldn't come right at this minute (I said my room was being cleaned and that I didn't have any clean towels).

But like Frannie said, at least take some time to understand the basics. Pimsleur Spanish I is definitely recommended for this. Knowing the basics will help you at least have an idea of what is going on around you (in a mostly all Spanish-speaking environment). In my early mongering days I had a wingman who understood Spanish very well, and he was able to pick up what our chicas were saying to one another as we walked back to New Garden. Even though they agreed to TLN he told me that they were telling each other that they were planning to jet (leave) after our session(s). So of course we were only going to pay their asses for ST.

[QUOTE=Easyease; 1261668]Hi dear Mongers, I am planning to travel to DR in late April. I read many reports here in the forum and they are as always in ISG very helpfull ofcourse. I would like to ask if someone knows where or has information about renting a house or a vila with a private pool that is safe. The pool must be kinda hidden, since it is where I want to have all my action.

Thanks.

Easyease[/QUOTE]Contact [url]http://www.hispaniolarealestate.com/[/url]

I use to stay in this Villa (Yasmin 42) , which we used to call the "Scarface Mansion." Gated community with secluded pool. We use to use the pool for orgies. I think the security guards would sometimes hide behind the bushes so they could watch, but no problems. [url]http://www.hispaniolarealestate.com/english/properties/rentals2.asp[/url]

They have villas that are far enough where you need a car to get to the strip and others that are close enough to walk to the strip.

Does anyone know if Sosua chicas are on social media sites like Facebook, Dominican Cupid. Com?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1261880]Contact.

[url]http://www.hispaniolarealestate.com/[/url]

I use to stay in this Villa (Yasmin 42) , which we used to call the "Scarface Mansion." Gated community with secluded pool. We use to use the pool for orgies. I think the security guards would sometimes hide behind the bushes so they could watch, but no problems.

[url]http://www.hispaniolarealestate.com/english/properties/rentals2.asp[/url]

They have villas that are far enough where you need a car to get to the strip and others that are close enough to walk to the strip.[/QUOTE]I used them to book two Villas for this August. The biggest influence was the walking distance to town compared with Casa Linda. I can't even get excited with my trip so far away, but I do have some non mongering trips coming up soon. If I get into anything interesting, I'll post in the Gogo forum.

[QUOTE=TheConcierge;1260445]I'll be traveling to Sosua on 4/19/2012 as well staying at New Garden. I'm looking forward to the trip with it being my first time there and out of the country for that matter. I'm armed with knowledge and experiences of those who graciously share the do's and don't's on these boards. It's very much appreciated![/QUOTE]I'll be getting there the day before. Also staying at NG. Hope to see yoy.

Well, this is the second post I am reading "Negativity" being mentioned. First one being from Mr. Gogo. Can you guys define what is it that you find "Negative"? If someone that is not in your "circle of trust" expresses differences of opinion, is that considered "Negative"? I am sure you both have disputed other members statements / opinions in the past. So what is different now?

I totally understand that many of you stand by Mr Pooter, esp. Since you know him personally, and I admire you for that. But he said what he said. And understandably / deservedly were the responses. Jao went an extra step, since he claims he knows Pooter and his past posts. I believe he did hid due diligence.

[QUOTE=Professor 1; 1261733]I normally avoid the negative stuff that rears its head at times. Let me say that I have had private, helpful comments and advice from Jaosousa. Also, let me say that I have met Charles Pooter, been a guest in his apartment, and had personal conversations with him. Jaosousa is right on the vast majority of occasions on this board; however, he is wrong here.

Charles Pooter took a personal interest in my well-being when he thought, although erroneously, that I was new to POP and ran the risk of associating with a local who could get me into deep trouble. Charles pulled me aside to ensure that I did not get into trouble. While his direct tone might alarm those who do not know him-and perhaps he is a bit too direct at times-he genuinely has an interest in helping people. One cannot read too much into his comments. After all, those who ply the trade, as a general rule, do possess a lowered self-esteem. That does not mean that they are inferior, or that they should be exploited. Perhaps, Charles should have added the latter half to his comments, but it goes without saying for him. I know that it does. We have talked about these things. I know that he helps the Haitians, who are an oppressed class like you would not believe within the DR.

Professor 1[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1260671]Another 5-Star posts! It was so good I had to quote the whole damn thing, LOL! Thanks for your contribution bro.[/QUOTE]Saw your post very well written and funny. I am also a brother who is educated and travels.

I like to see that there are more out there keep up the good work. Esq.

[QUOTE=Kman1; 1261933]Well, this is the second post I am reading "Negativity" being mentioned. First one being from Mr. Gogo. Can you guys define what is it that you find "Negative"? If someone that is not in your "circle of trust" expresses differences of opinion, is that considered "Negative"? I am sure you both have disputed other members statements / opinions in the past. So what is different now?

I totally understand that many of you stand by Mr Pooter, esp. Since you know him personally, and I admire you for that. But he said what he said. And understandably / deservedly were the responses. Jao went an extra step, since he claims he knows Pooter and his past posts. I believe he did hid due diligence.[/QUOTE]Good post brother, and where are those great pictures you always post. I have to walk lightly because my loyalty is ALWAYS to Jao, and he is my brother. With that said, my post was never against anything Jao said, I just wanted to let people know things that Sir Charles does behind the scenes. It's okay for us to not agree respectfully, but there is always another point we missed, that needs to be noted. I have never met Sir Charles, but I have been around him. I just never felt it was time to reveal Gogo. I just tried to reveal the other side, thats all. I'm not a fake dude, so because my friend has a problem with someone doesn't mean I can't speak what I know. I never said Jao was wrong. But I work behind the scenes also. A veteran told me what Sir Charles did for many years before he retired, and I fell on the floor rolling around laughing. It made me understand a lot about the man. Here is a clue, he was the SHH guy. Figure that one out and you will get a good laugh. He is a very normal guy that likes basic respect. The sad part is that Sir Charles doesn't feel inclined to chime in.

[QUOTE=Blake26;1261887]Does anyone know if Sosua chicas are on social media sites like Facebook, Dominican Cupid. Com?[/QUOTE]Of course. But since chicas do not live in Sosua they will more than likely have the city they are from listed under their name (Puerto Plata, Santo Domingo, Santiago, La Vega, etc.). Also, most chicas do not openly advertise that they are "Sosua Chicas", so the only way you would know if she "works" there is if someone specifically tells you that they've seen here there before or if she tells you herself. For chicas, Sosua is just a town they slip in and out of on an "as needed" basis (money) and can do it discreetly for the most part (which is the main draw of the place). There are some chicas that have "Sosua" listed as their city, which probably is a very big hint that they are working girls (Sosua Chicas). But there aren't many that do that.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1262027]There are some chicas that have "Sosua" listed as their city, which probably is a very big hint that they are working girls (Sosua Chicas). But there aren't many that do that.[/QUOTE]Not so fast bro. I know a while ago many chicas had Boca Chica listed on their profile. When I got to Boca Chica come to find out none of the girls lived there and it was in fact very far away. When I questioned why the hell did they put Boca Chica then they said that that their town was not listed in the choices so they had to put Boca Chica. Hopefully the sites have improved since then.

I am still wondering though why you see a large number of girls' weight listed as 295 lbs when it is apparent from the photo that she is only 120 lbs.

Based in your experience what is the best month to Visit Sosua? When you find more chicas?

[QUOTE=Bimmy5;1261920]I'll be getting there the day before. Also staying at NG. Hope to see yoy.[/QUOTE]I have now booked new garden hotel, will be there at about 3pm dr time.

So where is the new Sosua? : If yo don't mind my asking? Been there 2 or 3 times and I have had a nice time but enough

Just my opinion someone has been driving the price up and quality down

My buddy loves it there but he's whupped with tunnel vision. I'm looking for the next quality bargain.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1260243]LMAO, and people still say Sosua hasnt changed. Never heard such a price mentioned in the Old Sosua. But believe me, they are serious about getting these prices nowadays. Most guys arent doing TLN, so the girls now put a premium on it.

Most Sosua veterans only stop in Sosua to have a beer or to see old regulars. Sosua is now newbie heaven. Most newbies don't hold the line because they are glad to be fucking a hot Latina, and they would pay 200usd to bang a hot Latina in sex prison.

Sure there are a few veterans still stuck in Sosua that get cheap pussy, but they are just too lazy to go to other parts of the island for better quality at the same price or cheaper.

But guys please don't limit these over-payers to one race. The newbies come in all colors. Sosua is the new" Brazil light", so guys are just happy to have found the" Next spot". The key to this game is to make the " Next spot" your "Old Spot", but if your game isn't advanced you are just stuck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sobaje;1262111]Based in your experience what is the best month to Visit Sosua? When you find more chicas?[/QUOTE]There really isn't no "magical month" Whenever you arrive thats the "greatest month" to be in Sosua. The chicas are there 24/7 365 per year. Don't worry, you will find more than enough chicas, whenever you get there.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1261860]Pimsleur Spanish I is definitely recommended for this. Knowing the basics will help you at least have an idea of what is going on around you (in a mostly all Spanish-speaking environment).[/QUOTE]I found the Pimsleur approach to be very boring. I prefer the Learn in Your Car Spanish lessons.

Stayed there last month and it was ok.

I hear it was closed because the workers were not being paid.

They were not being paid when I was there but I guess my tips help.

The owner also owns afther one and the hottest night club town.

It he just being cheap or a ganster, well someone on the gound let me know if its still open.

I will be in Sosua in 2 weeks and thier website is down. Push come to shove it will be the New Garden.

[QUOTE=John Dough;1262290]I found the Pimsleur approach to be very boring. [b]I prefer the Learn in Your Car Spanish lessons[/b].[/QUOTE]But that's exactly what Pimsleur is. I listen to it in my car on my iPhone while driving.

I'm not sure what Pimsleur stuff you have. Mine are MP3's and 30 minutes each.

[QUOTE=Scotch; 1262300]Stayed there last month and it was ok.

I hear it was closed because the workers were not being paid.

They were not being paid when I was there but I guess my tips help.

The owner also owns afther one and the hottest night club town.

It he just being cheap or a ganster, well someone on the gound let me know if its still open.[/QUOTE]One call; that's all.