Santo Domingo

[QUOTE=Bravo;1582675]I have seen this countless time! Men make the mistake of thinking "Her family will never put up with her cheating on me because I support all of them. I send money every month, so they will always be loyal to me!" Truth be told, you will always be "The Gringo" to them! They may make a big show whenever you arrive, but you will never be as important to them as you think you are!![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bravo;1582687]I was talking about the husband in Spain and the other thousands of guys who send these girls money. These guys fool themselves into thinking that the parents and siblings will hold some sort of loyalty towards them. One thing I have learned is that these girls will always keep a local or two to get some dick from while the husband is back in his own country.[/QUOTE]And the funny part is that "those guys" (hey, probably even the guy from Spain as well, LOL) will read this and still say to themselves: "Not my girl. My girl is different. ".

[QUOTE=Bravo;1582687]I wasnt talking about you Cagep1967. I was talking about the husband in Spain and the other thousands of guys who send these girls money. These guys fool themselves into thinking that the parents and siblings will hold some sort of loyalty towards them. One thing I have learned is that these girls will always keep a local or two to get some dick from while the husband is back in his own country.[/QUOTE]I don't get played. When I was younger if I ever had a girlfriend that I thought was cheating she was gone. I had a live in girl in the states that I thought was cheating, I gave her until the next day to get her crap and move out. No explanation was given. I tell my friends if you think they are cheating there is a reason for those thoughts. It's not worth it to stick around to see if it's true or not, life is too short. The weird thing is if you treat them like that they usually come begging back.

Sunday while I'm at the ex's house the current was texting me that she was stupid, she loves me, she appreciates me, etc. Treat them bad and they keep coming back for more.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1582324]Great story bro. And without the usual rant as to how scheming the women are. Some people seem to get off more on that than by putting it inside various holes of a female. Ah well![/QUOTE]If a poster wants to report info about any chicas bad behavior, that's his business. If there is nothing to report or nothing significant so be it. But just because there is no report that doesn't deserve praise. The real question is, why is it an issue inside of you if any member posts details about scheming women? Lastly, what something seems is unreliable. Just deal with the facts. Stop trying to assign your feelings to how other guys supposedly feel. You have no clue what other guys get off on, more than something else. Stay in your own lane and mind your business. Then maybe a report of scheming women by other members might not be such a burden to your sensibilities. This aint no rant, just some friendly advice to help you cope on these boards.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1582661]we go inside, she turns on the air, we sit on the bed and it's on. Kissing, touching, she goes down on me, then I hit it raw we get all sweaty and I nut inside. Very enjoyable.[/QUOTE]This is the type of stuff that reinforces why I would never entertain some woman's request or interest in an exclusive relationship. Especially with women in the DR. I have been in similar positions as you and observed other men as well, where the woman claimed to have a man, but they are giving some other man the juice.

It does not look like you noticed the part about asking the fare in advance. If you do that, you will not get a surprise request for a ridiculous amount of money. Also, when you call or when somebody calls for you, the dispatcher will tell you how long it will be before the taxi arrives.

[QUOTE=Mfins;1582323]I actually did this at a Sushi restaurant. Had the place call a cab for me. Waited 15 minutes for the cab to come got in the cab went 3 or 4 km to the casino with a stop at a pharmacy on the way. We went through the drive thru which took 3 minutes. When we got to the Casino he wanted $25.00. Ridiculous- Also, having the hotel, or restaurant or club call a taxi there can be a wait time of 10-15 minutes. In any case, I do I understand what your saying and in theory it is a good idea but, after a few drinks and other factors it isn't always the easiest option.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1582661]I feel a little guilty, eating this guys food, drinking his rum and screwing his wife.[/QUOTE]Same way I felt my first time doing that when I was in the Navy and this Mexican chick's husband was abroad. I called my dad and he said you are in the real world now son. Been doing it ever since without a problem.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1581702]No money for grocery? Too funny.[/QUOTE]Do they ever stop! I just got bit up for $200 to get some cavities filled!

What I don't get is atleast in the US and even Thailand a girl knows when to stop. But Dominican girls never give up. Dame Dame papi!

Showdown.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1582753]It does not look like you noticed the part about asking the fare in advance. If you do that, you will not get a surprise request for a ridiculous amount of money. Also, when you call or when somebody calls for you, the dispatcher will tell you how long it will be before the taxi arrives.[/QUOTE]Please read my previous posts. Your advice is good but, the same "scam" has happened to me when a cab has been called for me and when I have asked the fare in advance.

I will say this again not all girls cheat it all depends on you and how you are. I know you talk about people who are away girls will cheat I agree, but not all girls. My girl who I help who lives in the barrio does not cheat. Does not happen. I also seen a couple of other beautiful girls that ask her what is the deal and she says does not cheat. Now what is the reason the men I see them with are big time and have the respect of the barrio these men do not play do not ask what they do and do want to know, but what I see as consistent is they are very respected in the barrio. Now I agree some gringo who comes and picks his girl up in the barrio does not stay in the barrio no respect but a man who comes and is respected in barrio girlfriend does not cheat. Girl I hate to say it respect a man who will not take no shit. You cross them and that is it that is how it works there.

Okay, give you example I was with another girl and was going to see my girl wanted her to think I just got in to santo domingo so I needed my car clean before I see her so she thinks I just got to santo domingo. It was late and there is a place by the park near her barrio where people wash cars they have the same spot each day and must pay the boss each day to use that spot. It was late and I had two bottle's of black label in the car my mistake for not watching they were smooth went in to car and took bottles out of the boxes and I did notice until I got home to my girls house. I notice then and I said okay tomorrow morning I will take care of. Now, understand I stay in barrio I know how it works. Long story short got up early went back to same spot. I knew they did not know I live there thought just a gringo traveling through. Well I love drama they were washing a car same group I got out the car and dumped a bucket full of water on man who stole bottle on his head then yelled get the mother fucking boss now and boss came running told him what happened police came over and within 20 minutes my bottles were back to me with one have a little drinking out of it. Police ask what I want to do I said you have family pay you. How it works you catch robbers you decide on punishment police happy and people told them you crazy do you know he lives here. Again, people who live and are in the barrio you get respect you viewed as a soft gringo you do not get respect. Not all girls cheat depends on the man and how he is viewed and respected where girl lives.

[QUOTE=Revere;1583476]I will say this again not all girls cheat it all depends on you and how you are. [/QUOTE]You are correct. Not all girls cheat. So the girls that do cheat, lets just say they are the ones guys are talking about that cheat. Also, the ones that don't cheat don't represent the girls that do cheat. They only represent themselves. It's not clear to me on what you mean by "it depends on you and who you are"? Are you saying being cheated on depends on you and how you are? If so, I would agree with that only to the extent of to whom it applies to. But I don't subscribe to any premise that every man is complicit in being cheated on because it's something about him.

And we know women wouldn't adopt that presumption when they are cheated on by a man. Imagine? Not all men cheat. It depends on her and how she is. Insert roll eyes here. .

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1583660]You are correct. Not all girls cheat. So the girls that do cheat, lets just say they are the ones guys are talking about that cheat.[/QUOTE]And don't forget the human factor in all of this. Everyone will have their own (fucked up) definition of what "cheating" is.

It's like the dude that robs the corner store, a few banks, and does some home invasions. You ask him why he is does so much stealing and he turns to you and says: "Stealing? What's that? I was surviving bruh!"

Women (and guys) will have their own definition of what they constitute as "cheating":

"I had sex with him/her, but we used a condom; so I did not cheat".

"I had sex with him/her, but I do not love him/her; so I did not cheat".

People have mentioned here more than once that sex in the DR is treated as a commodity. Dominicanos will use their wives or girlfriends to pay off debts. So the Western definition of cheating will not have the same meaning or contex in the DR were it is sometimes seen as a business transaction.

I met a monger in Sosua once who had is driver come from SD to pick him up. Two other chicas knew he was going to SD and wanted to ride along to get back home. My monger friend told me that they would be stopping at a Cabana on the way there, because it was understood that these chicas would have to pay their way to SD by fucking both him and the driver.

Me personally, it would be a stretch to claim that I knew my girl "doesn't cheat" if I am not living there 24/7, 365. Like Mr. E (as bad as it sounds), I'm sure there were a lot of guys onboard the ship telling their buddies that their wives "don't cheat" when I was busy proving otherwise, lol (I was Type-2 Sea Duty, so I never saw the inside of a ship). Had no idea I was kicking it on their couch with their wives and kids watching "Little Bill" on Nickelodeon.

I know it is hard to understand about not cheating but my girls apartment is above the owner of the house I rent with my girl. His girlfriend lives below has a baby with him and she does not go out. Does not cheat and the crazy thing he is not coming back to December. Barrio is very different happy to take people around if you PM you will see a very different side of santo domingo that you would not see. Some very hot chick's who are loyal and are not putas and at the same time you will see some of there friends who are putas that go to Sousa or work in the casa and everyone knows what they do. I am telling if you are comfortable in that environment you can meet a hot loyal chick, but you have to fit in. Again, you will never see me hit a strip club now I have a couple hot chick's in the barrios around santo domingo. If you all look back I put a picture up of one of my girls so you will see I do not play.

[QUOTE=Revere;1584022]I know it is hard to understand about not cheating but my girls apartment is above the owner of the house I rent with my girl. His girlfriend lives below has a baby with him and she does not go out. Does not cheat and the crazy thing he is not coming back to December. Barrio is very different happy to take people around if you PM you will see a very different side of santo domingo that you would not see. Some very hot chick's who are loyal and are not putas and at the same time you will see some of there friends who are putas that go to Sousa or work in the casa and everyone knows what they do. I am telling if you are comfortable in that environment you can meet a hot loyal chick, but you have to fit in. Again, you will never see me hit a strip club now I have a couple hot chick's in the barrios around santo domingo. If you all look back I put a picture up of one of my girls so you will see I do not play.[/QUOTE]Curious, what barrios are you referring to.

There are many and they are all basically similar. Guachupita, Gualey, San Carlos, Los Mina etc. Etc. A higher end neighborhood like Bella Vista or Naco is usually called a "sector".

[QUOTE=Grandnash84;1584512]Curious, what barrios are you referring to.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1584517]There are many and they are all basically similar. Guachupita, Gualey, San Carlos, Los Mina etc. Etc. A higher end neighborhood like Bella Vista or Naco is usually called a "sector".[/QUOTE]Barrio is esache Isabelita but as was said there are many barrios in santo domingo. It is a huge area.

[QUOTE=Revere;1585418]Barrio is esache Isabelita but as was said there are many barrios in santo domingo. It is a huge area.[/QUOTE]Question for you. Can a stranger get inside a barrio, without knowing anyone there. And just hangout say in a colmado drinking a beer etc. Or like what happens in some places, you are not welcome or viewed with suspicion by the local mafia and is outright dangerous?

Can anyone recommend a cheap studio /1 bed apartment or hotel (chica friendly of course) that I can pay for online in Santo Domingo, have never been to SD before. Also any hire car recommendations? How accurate and useful are the GPS sat nav they provide?

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1585943]Question for you. Can a stranger get inside a barrio, without knowing anyone there. And just hangout say in a colmado drinking a beer etc. Or like what happens in some places, you are not welcome or viewed with suspicion by the local mafia and is outright dangerous?[/QUOTE]Maybe I'm not seeing the same neighborhoods that other guys are seeing. Where are these barrios that are supposed to be so dangerous? Whenever I go into a neighborhood I just see normal people doing normal things.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1586377]Maybe I'm not seeing the same neighborhoods that other guys are seeing. Where are these barrios that are supposed to be so dangerous? Whenever I go into a neighborhood I just see normal people doing normal things.[/QUOTE]If you are in a car and with someone who lives there, you might be okay. But try walking around the barrio alone not knowing anyone there late at night, and it could be it for you. Especially around 2 am when the Dominicans are drunk and packing weapons. Man stop pressing your luck with these risky situations.

One person's normal is another person's "OMFG, I died and went to hell and now one of these people is going to kill me then fuck me!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1586377]Maybe I'm not seeing the same neighborhoods that other guys are seeing. Where are these barrios that are supposed to be so dangerous? Whenever I go into a neighborhood I just see normal people doing normal things.[/QUOTE]

Depends on the stranger, doesn't it?

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1585943]Question for you. Can a stranger get inside a barrio, without knowing anyone there. And just hangout say in a colmado drinking a beer etc. Or like what happens in some places, you are not welcome or viewed with suspicion by the local mafia and is outright dangerous?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1586377]Maybe I'm not seeing the same neighborhoods that other guys are seeing. Where are these barrios that are supposed to be so dangerous? Whenever I go into a neighborhood I just see normal people doing normal things.[/QUOTE]First, to answer your question e it is normal in a bad barrio. However, drive through that same barrio late night and you see no cars park on the street that tells you no one parks their cars on the street at night because there cars will be taken. I saw a robbery yesterday a kid on a motorbike reached in to a taxi and took a women's purse and drove off fast and got away things happen all the time and hopefully you will never see it. That same barrio a cop was killed for his gun a couple of months ago. Please never get over confident and drive through a barrio late night and not know what your doing. Your just asking for trouble. Visiting the maximum security prison in the DR, I spoke to a lot of inmates and the worse criminal you can face is one who is not educated and has no common sense they act on in pulse and believe me I am tough as they come but I am not stupid will always be smart when it comes to safety.

To the other question, how to have fun in the barrio go in to a place where you see a lot of people drinking order a beer and just hang around and someone will say Hello, offer some of your beer and a goodwill gesture like that will go a long way for 150 pesos. Just be smart and have fun and you will meet cool people.

[QUOTE=Revere;1583476]I will say this again not all girls cheat it all depends on you and how you are. I know you talk about people who are away girls will cheat I agree, but not all girls. My girl who I help who lives in the barrio does not cheat. Does not happen. I also seen a couple of other beautiful girls that ask her what is the deal and she says does not cheat. Now what is the reason the men I see them with are big time and have the respect of the barrio these men do not play do not ask what they do and do want to know, but what I see as consistent is they are very respected in the barrio. Now I agree some gringo who comes and picks his girl up in the barrio does not stay in the barrio no respect but a man who comes and is respected in barrio girlfriend does not cheat. Girl I hate to say it respect a man who will not take no shit. You cross them and that is it that is how it works there.

Okay, give you example I was with another girl and was going to see my girl wanted her to think I just got in to santo domingo so I needed my car clean before I see her so she thinks I just got to santo domingo. It was late and there is a place by the park near her barrio where people wash cars they have the same spot each day and must pay the boss each day to use that spot. It was late and I had two bottle's of black label in the car my mistake for not watching they were smooth went in to car and took bottles out of the boxes and I did notice until I got home to my girls house. I notice then and I said okay tomorrow morning I will take care of. Now, understand I stay in barrio I know how it works. Long story short got up early went back to same spot. I knew they did not know I live there thought just a gringo traveling through. Well I love drama they were washing a car same group I got out the car and dumped a bucket full of water on man who stole bottle on his head then yelled get the mother fucking boss now and boss came running told him what happened police came over and within 20 minutes my bottles were back to me with one have a little drinking out of it. Police ask what I want to do I said you have family pay you. How it works you catch robbers you decide on punishment police happy and people told them you crazy do you know he lives here. Again, people who live and are in the barrio you get respect you viewed as a soft gringo you do not get respect. Not all girls cheat depends on the man and how he is viewed and respected where girl lives.[/QUOTE]I know because I check, every computer in my house has a keylogger application that I check, her cell phone that I bought has stealth genie which can capture and download everything from her phone. I can even turn it on to record background noise and download it. I have internet cameras in my house. I have a GPS tracking device in my car. I don't check that often anymore, but in the time I've been with her the worst she has done is complain to a few friends of something I have done and the complaint was valid.

She's a good country girl and values her situation, every so often I have to put her in her place. She screws up in other areas, but she is faithful.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1586413]I know because I check, every computer in my house has a keylogger application that I check, her cell phone that I bought has stealth genie which can capture and download everything from her phone.[/QUOTE]Which one are you using? Every time I download one it seems to be a virus.

[QUOTE=Revere;1586409]First, to answer your question e it is normal in a bad barrio. However, drive through that same barrio late night and you see no cars park on the street that tells you no one parks their cars on the street at night because there cars will be taken. [/QUOTE]I guess that is why when I went to spend the night at a chick's house a couple of weeks ago over in Los Mameyes, she asked if I was sure that I wanted to leave the car on the street.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1586413]I know because I check, every computer in my house has a keylogger application that I check, her cell phone that I bought has stealth genie which can capture and download everything from her phone. I can even turn it on to record background noise and download it. I have internet cameras in my house. I have a GPS tracking device in my car. I don't check that often anymore, but in the time I've been with her the worst she has done is complain to a few friends of something I have done and the complaint was valid.

She's a good country girl and values her situation, every so often I have to put her in her place. She screws up in other areas, but she is faithful.[/QUOTE]Don't be deceived my friend, she doesn't cheat because she would be a fool to risk the financial reward that you give her for not cheating, not because she doesn't want to cheat. She is a very smart girl. I would play it totally different, I wouldn't go to the extremes you go to because it would reveal itself eventually anyway. If she ever cheats she will do it outside of her barrio and the big mouthed people that will expose her, like I said she is a smart girl. You have this faithful girl but yet you run to GPB every chance you get to bang 1000 p girls. How long before you are exposed Sir?

So when she finds out about your flings how will she play it? She will weigh the money value to your deception. She will play along to not risk the financial reward she is receiving, but might she stray with a neighbor or family friend on the down low to not risk what she has with you? You are not Dominican and the Dominican guys know how to manipulate these girls, plus the Dominicanas are easily brainwashed to do stupid shit. But this will not happen to your girl because she is too smart for that, right? Maybe you have that special girl, time will tell.

Here's a story; A doctor went to the Dominican Republic and found the perfect girl. He took care of her and her mother and started paper work to move them to the States. The girls brothers said he was family as they hit him up for money. They also wanted to come to the States, and said she can't go without them. They were willing to risk her happiness for their own selfishness. The guy told the girl this and his girl said" but they are family". As the guy was finalizing paper work for the girl and mom to come to the States the girl put pressure on him to include the brothers. She eventually gave him an ultimatum that it was the whole family or nada.

Don't discount the Dominican bond because of your financial benefits Sir, money is not stronger than that bond they have.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1586426]I guess that is why when I went to spend the night at a chick's house a couple of weeks ago over in Los Mameyes, she asked if I was sure that I wanted to leave the car on the street.[/QUOTE]I second that. Thats why when I rented a house for my main chica she insisted it had a garage for the rental car. She said no one parks on the street at night. And it is absolutely true especially in the barrios.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1585943]Question for you. Can a stranger get inside a barrio, without knowing anyone there. And just hangout say in a colmado drinking a beer etc. Or like what happens in some places, you are not welcome or viewed with suspicion by the local mafia and is outright dangerous?[/QUOTE]Why do you want to get inside a barrio, what is there to see, experience for you guys?

Reason number 1 why foreigners get robbed, attacked... here in this country is because they befriend the wrong people.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1586551]
Here's a story; A doctor went to the Dominican Republic and found the perfect girl. He took care of her and her mother and started paper work to move them to the States. The girls brothers said he was family as they hit him up for money. They also wanted to come to the States, and said she can't go without them. They were willing to risk her happiness for their own selfishness. The guy told the girl this and his girl said" but they are family". As the guy was finalizing paper work for the girl and mom to come to the States the girl put pressure on him to include the brothers. She eventually gave him an ultimatum that it was the whole family or nada.

Don't discount the Dominican bond because of your financial benefits Sir, money is not stronger than that bond they have.[/QUOTE]What kind of visa do you apply for to bring an entire family to the US? I know he can get the girl a fiancee visa, but the whole family? Does that only work for the DR or can you do that for other countries too?

[QUOTE=Bravo;1586809]What kind of visa do you apply for to bring an entire family to the US? I know he can get the girl a fiancee visa, but the whole family? Does that only work for the DR or can you do that for other countries too?[/QUOTE]My point was to show how strong the Domnican bond is. It was also to show how powerful the Domnicano is in this culture. I didn't finish my story because I don't know if she relented or accepted his proposal.

Personally I just don't get guys that marry these girls and move them Stateside. If you want a wife go to the PI they speak English and are more loyal IMO. There are guys on this board that post regularly that were burned by falling for a Dominicana and moving her to the States.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1586809]What kind of visa do you apply for to bring an entire family to the US? [/QUOTE]Does not exist! You can bring in a woman or man with a fiance / fiancee visa but that is it! Once the woman gets married she will have to wait for quite awhile to get the green card and then she can bring her parents (short wait time) but siblings are out on a limb of a 10 year wait or so in case of say, the Philippines. Even her children if older than 21 are shit out of luck. By the way, all this because this country has been giving preferential treatment to family but many other countries like the UK, Germany, Canada are prioritizing only folks with brain for immigrant visas which has already lit a fire under the immigration act in this country.

[QUOTE=Berthold;1586694]Why do you want to get inside a barrio, what is there to see, experience for you guys?

Reason number 1 why foreigners get robbed, attacked... here in this country is because they befriend the wrong people.[/QUOTE]I have not been to any barrio in the DR and I guess I am curious (like Margaret Mead). Regarding befriending wrong people, yes it can happen but in my 25+ years of travel across most places barring Africa and South America, the only bad thing that happened to me is having my passport stolen on the bus, in Rome, Italy of all places, my maiden trip abroad. I do not do drugs or cigarettes, booze has very limited attraction and rarely beyond a beer / wine or two and so I have low likelihood of running into the wrong kinds. At least I have evaded that so far. I have another advantage, being a brown skinned guy, I am not the kind that draws attention of the wrong people plus people cannot quite figure out where I am from. Chileno or Puertorriqueno is what makes me crack up but then an average Dominican is not very informed about the ways of the world.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1586826]My point was to show how strong the Domnican bond is. It was also to show how powerful the Domnicano is in this culture. I didn't finish my story because I don't know if she relented or accepted his proposal.

.[/QUOTE]I understand your point, but.... I wasnt asking about the dominican bond. I am well aware that no matter what country you go to, you will always be considered an outsider. No matter how much of a show the family puts on, you are still not one of them. I was more curious about how you can bring an entire family from the DR to the states? I have heard of Dominican women being able to bring children with them to America, but to bring parents and siblings, that is wild.

Any one know how that is possible? What method do they use. I am shocked that ALL the girls are not demanding the same thing. "Bring my whole family or I won't go!

[QUOTE=Bravo;1586900]I understand your point, but.... I wasnt asking about the dominican bond. I am well aware that no matter what country you go to, you will always be considered an outsider. No matter how much of a show the family puts on, you are still not one of them. I was more curious about how you can bring an entire family from the DR to the states? I have heard of Dominican women being able to bring children with them to America, but to bring parents and siblings, that is wild.

Any one know how that is possible? What method do they use. I am shocked that ALL the girls are not demanding the same thing. "Bring my whole family or I won't go![/QUOTE]Once someone becomes a citizen they can petition for other family members to come to the US. I had a dominican cleaning lady in my office, when I worked in the states. She was not a citizen, just residency, but her parents are US citizens. They petitioned their grandchildren, she was very grateful.

[QUOTE=Revere;1584022]I know it is hard to understand about not cheating but my girls apartment is above the owner of the house I rent with my girl. His girlfriend lives below has a baby with him and she does not go out. Does not cheat and the crazy thing he is not coming back to December. Barrio is very different happy to take people around if you PM you will see a very different side of santo domingo that you would not see. Some very hot chick's who are loyal and are not putas and at the same time you will see some of there friends who are putas that go to Sousa or work in the casa and everyone knows what they do. I am telling if you are comfortable in that environment you can meet a hot loyal chick, but you have to fit in. Again, you will never see me hit a strip club now I have a couple hot chick's in the barrios around santo domingo. If you all look back I put a picture up of one of my girls so you will see I do not play.[/QUOTE]This isn't the Twilight Zone is it? Whats hard for me to understand is you failing to or choosing not to grasp what I said, and applying it accordingly. Wasnt it acknowledged that not ALL women cheat? If you read that, then I fail to understand how the examples you are giving applies to the women that [I]DO[/I] cheat? The women you are talking about represent themselves, and are a part of the group of women that don't cheat. I get that. However, they do not represent all women. The women that do cheat, those are the women I was referring to. I am not claiming there are more women cheating vs those that don't, so I am at a lost as to why you are giving examples of women that supposedly don't cheat? What am I missing here?

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1586964]This isn't the Twilight Zone is it? Whats hard for me to understand is you failing to or choosing not to grasp what I said, and applying it accordingly. Wasnt it acknowledged that not ALL women cheat? If you read that, then I fail to understand how the examples you are giving applies to the women that [I]DO[/I] cheat? The women you are talking about represent themselves, and are a part of the group of women that don't cheat. I get that. However, they do not represent all women. The women that do cheat, those are the women I was referring to. I am not claiming there are more women cheating vs those that don't, so I am at a lost as to why you are giving examples of women that supposedly don't cheat? What am I missing here?[/QUOTE]I have noticed for whatever reason you like to jump at other people on the board. Not sure why, maybe you have an insecurity problem. I do not know and really do not care. But, to you point about me being in the twilight zone I live in reality. In fact, I am in santo domingo right now. Anybody, can pretend to be a king among putas, but please enlighten me how I pull a non pro at the hottest nightclub on Venezuela on Saturday night since I am so in the twilight zone. I like to go real late and do not make reservations and I like to go to euphoria on Saturdays since you need a reservation to get in late night. You know so much tell me the best time to go and I like to sit up front with the other ballers again that is my reality. Now tell me what I should do because I only like pulling non pros. Let's see who is really in the twilight zone I am interested in hearing your answer and do not try to talk about some other stuff answer the question.

[QUOTE=Revere;1586409]To the other question, how to have fun in the barrio go in to a place where you see a lot of people drinking order a beer and just hang around and someone will say Hello, offer some of your beer and a goodwill gesture like that will go a long way for 150 pesos. Just be smart and have fun and you will meet cool people.[/QUOTE]Thanks Revere, this is rather helpful. That sounds like a sensible plan, especially during the daylight hours. I have no plans to go anywhere in unknown places at 2 in the morning.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1586551]Don't be deceived my friend, she doesn't cheat because she would be a fool to risk the financial reward that you give her for not cheating, not because she doesn't want to cheat.[/QUOTE]This is an interesting conversation. I do not want to be on any moral high horse speaking about norms for males and females but it does sound to me that the whole expectation of "loyalty" is essentially based on a financial / material transaction. As a result the man feels entitled to doing what he has always done. Impregnating other females with the expectation that the one at home (wife or a girl friend) must be loyal because he is paying for it. I can only speak from my personal experience and I have changed my personal belief: I do not expect exclusivity and am convinced that unless there is a deep emotional bond, which is most likely to happen when one is young (age makes one cynical) - it is chimerical to speak of "loyalty" - and money does not buy it, no matter where on earth. If the woman is loyal, you are probably doing something else right. In addition to her upkeep.

I have a few Dominican cupid chicas lined up for my trip, one of which lives in Herrera in Santo Dom, can anyone who's been verify how dangerous it is. Also would anyone state which places in Santo Dom to avoid either at night or just anytime of the day. I'm not trying to get mugged or worse while on holiday.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1587277]This is an interesting conversation. I do not want to be on any moral high horse speaking about norms for males and females but it does sound to me that the whole expectation of "loyalty" is essentially based on a financial / material transaction. As a result the man feels entitled to doing what he has always done. Impregnating other females with the expectation that the one at home (wife or a girl friend) must be loyal because he is paying for it. I can only speak from my personal experience and I have changed my personal belief: I do not expect exclusivity and am convinced that unless there is a deep emotional bond, which is most likely to happen when one is young (age makes one cynical) - it is chimerical to speak of "loyalty" - and money does not buy it, no matter where on earth. If the woman is loyal, you are probably doing something else right. In addition to her upkeep.[/QUOTE]Some men have more money than patience, so it's easier to pay for control IMO. Personally I expect a female to eventually do something stupid so I don't trust any of them. But I do respect them. I had a situation in my younger days that involved me, my ex, and her new boyfriend. It eventually got back to my mom who dropped by my house. She said " if you are ever stupid enough to go to jail over a girl, don't expect mom to come see your dumb ass". Once everything settled down I vowed to myself to never put a girl on a pedestal again. If a girl wants to leave me, I step aside and wish her luck.

It's funny because I don't date in the States, but a few Stateside girls have been stepping up lately. One in particular has really got my attention. The reason she has my attention is because she put everything good / bad on the table with our first conversation, no sneaky surprises for later. But I'm still not trusting any of them.

I guess it's with each guys attitude vs the situation. Some are soft and don't mind paying for false love. Some guys don't want to pay but feel they are smooth enough to manipulate the situation in their favor. Some guys pay but don't want love, just control. Me, I don't want any love or drama just give me some ass when I want it and I will pay you to leave.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1587400]Some men have more money than patience, so it's easier to pay for control IMO. Personally I expect a female to eventually do something stupid so I don't trust any of them. But I do respect them. I had a situation in my younger days that involved me, my ex, and her new boyfriend. It eventually got back to my mom who dropped by my house. She said " if you are ever stupid enough to go to jail over a girl, don't expect mom to come see your dumb ass". Once everything settled down I vowed to myself to never put a girl on a pedestal again. If a girl wants to leave me, I step aside and wish her luck.

It's funny because I don't date in the States, but a few Stateside girls have been stepping up lately. One in particular has really got my attention. The reason she has my attention is because she put everything good / bad on the table with our first conversation, no sneaky surprises for later. But I'm still not trusting any of them.

I guess it's with each guys attitude vs the situation. Some are soft and don't mind paying for false love. Some guys don't want to pay but feel they are smooth enough to manipulate the situation in their favor. Some guys pay but don't want love, just control. Me, I don't want any love or drama just give me some ass when I want it and I will pay you to leave.[/QUOTE]I especially love what your mom said. I cannot think of better advise from a mother to her son.

RR.

In rush hour traffic Herrera is nearly an hour west of most of the places you read about on this forum. That's it's biggest disadvantage, it's really inconvenient to reach. Have the girl come to you. I don't know what you would do there except stare at her relatives. The main north / south thorough fare in Herrera is called Isabel Aguiar. There are a handful of popular discos along that street and they are notorious for frequent shootouts inside and outside, so avoid them. Have fun.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1587389]I have a few Dominican cupid chicas lined up for my trip, one of which lives in Herrera in Santo Dom, can anyone who's been verify how dangerous it is. Also would anyone state which places in Santo Dom to avoid either at night or just anytime of the day. I'm not trying to get mugged or worse while on holiday.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Revere;1587000]I have noticed for whatever reason you like to jump at other people on the board. Not sure why, maybe you have an insecurity problem. I do not know and really do not care.[/QUOTE]I have a special bond with select individuals on this board that they helped to initiate a while back. I don't expect you to know why or understand the exchange, and if you don't care, so be it. I wouldn't give a damn one way or the other.

[QUOTE]But, to you point about me being in the twilight zone I live in reality.[/QUOTE]I didn't say you were in the Twilight Zone. I said "This isn't the Twilight Zone is it?" That means, I am the one in the Twlight Zone dealing with an incoherent poster. You point blank ignored what I said, about nobody here was claiming All women cheat, and instead of acknowledging that, you keep going on and on with more examples of women that don't cheat. So me seeing you do that, that's why I made that comment. You got it straight now? I don't recall anybody else who responded to you the 1st time. I should have taken the hint. Now I see why. LOL.

I'm pondering returning to DR next week (not much of pondering, it's actually happening) but what I'm really pondering is driving from Santo Domingo to Santiago. My inbound flight is to SDQ and I'm leaving from STI as I plan on visiting Sosua for 2 days. I like the flexibility of having a car in DR, but having driven in Santiago before, I can say that driving is quite the challenge and one really needs to be careful. For the most part I've been fine, knock on wood.

With that said, I've never driven longer distances in DR and want to give it a try this time around. If anyone has any experience on this route and Autopista Duarte, I'd appreciate your opinions and experiences. I don't know if there are well-known major rental companies within the city of Santo Domingo as most seem to have locations at the airport, but if there is a rental agency that is recommended. I'd love to know. I usually stick to Avis and Hertz, and sometimes National when I travel anywhere international. But back to the drive, how challenging is it. Anyone encounter any issues? I'm looking to leave on a Saturday around noon to mid-afternoon so the driving would be done in daylight. If it was at night, I might have second thoughts.

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1587800]I'm pondering returning to DR next week (not much of pondering, it's actually happening) but what I'm really pondering is driving from Santo Domingo to Santiago. My inbound flight is to SDQ and I'm leaving from STI as I plan on visiting Sosua for 2 days. I like the flexibility of having a car in DR, but having driven in Santiago before, I can say that driving is quite the challenge and one really needs to be careful. For the most part I've been fine, knock on wood.

With that said, I've never driven longer distances in DR and want to give it a try this time around. If anyone has any experience on this route and Autopista Duarte, I'd appreciate your opinions and experiences. I don't know if there are well-known major rental companies within the city of Santo Domingo as most seem to have locations at the airport, but if there is a rental agency that is recommended. I'd love to know. I usually stick to Avis and Hertz, and sometimes National when I travel anywhere international. But back to the drive, how challenging is it. Anyone encounter any issues? I'm looking to leave on a Saturday around noon to mid-afternoon so the driving would be done in daylight. If it was at night, I might have second thoughts.[/QUOTE]We drove from SD to ST this Wednesday it was easy. Use your smart phone GPS if you have to. We only encounter stopping maybe at 2 or 3 traffic lights in the smaller cities. No strange turns only 1 toll bridge I think 30 peso leaving SD. We did the drive in 1 hour 30 minutes. I have drove from BC and SD to Sosua many times. The road from SD to ST in far more safer and larger. Relax even at night its a good ride.

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1587800]With that said, I've never driven longer distances in DR and want to give it a try this time around.[/QUOTE]1. The large rental agencies should have city locations. And the rates lower compared to airport locations.

2. Getting out of SD (other than big city traffic) can be tricky as the directions are not clear always on the highway leading out of the city. I wound up in the wrong lane and had to find my way back, which per se is not a challenge but you waste time.

3. Heavy traffic at the usual morning and evening time. Mid day onward is good and daytime driving is always better as the roads are not well lit.

4. Once you are out of SD (as marked by the toll booth) by the other poster, it is smooth sailing. There should not be much traffic and the countryside, around Bonao is very beautiful.

5. You will find women standing on highways looking for business as well. There are cabanas along the highways or your car.

Enjoy the country and the ride!

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1587400]Some men have more money than patience, so it's easier to pay for control IMO. Personally I expect a female to eventually do something stupid so I don't trust any of them. But I do respect them. I had a situation in my younger days that involved me, my ex, and her new boyfriend. It eventually got back to my mom who dropped by my house. She said " if you are ever stupid enough to go to jail over a girl, don't expect mom to come see your dumb ass". Once everything settled down I vowed to myself to never put a girl on a pedestal again. If a girl wants to leave me, I step aside and wish her luck.

It's funny because I don't date in the States, but a few Stateside girls have been stepping up lately. One in particular has really got my attention. The reason she has my attention is because she put everything good / bad on the table with our first conversation, no sneaky surprises for later. But I'm still not trusting any of them.

I guess it's with each guys attitude vs the situation. Some are soft and don't mind paying for false love. Some guys don't want to pay but feel they are smooth enough to manipulate the situation in their favor. Some guys pay but don't want love, just control. Me, I don't want any love or drama just give me some ass when I want it and I will pay you to leave.[/QUOTE]Good ish!

Really got to be able to break down walls and know whom your dealing with. Few ever get past that level because they Dick get in the way. When you can open the door and let them walk out its easy. You got to find the one that understands its not going to work as is and walks out the door her self.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1587277] If the woman is loyal, you are probably doing something else right. In addition to her upkeep.[/QUOTE]You may be doing everything on earth the right way as you and even she perceives and any woman will still cheat given the proper inducements. Sad to say but fear of financial loss and physical consequences are greater prohibitions above morality for a Dominicana.

[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;1587972]You may be doing everything on earth the right way as you and even she perceives and any woman will still cheat given the proper inducements. Sad to say but fear of financial loss and physical consequences are greater prohibitions above morality for a Dominicana.[/QUOTE]I certainly cannot profess to know Dominican women better than others but my thoughts in that mail were generic, based on my life experiences across the globe, without any geographic limitation. To my mind, it is the man who bungles first (but it is written in our genes) but shall we just say, we all have different views based on our past?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1586424]Which one are you using? Every time I download one it seems to be a virus.[/QUOTE]Try Golden Eye they have a 30 day free trial and I have been using it for at the past 3+ years. It takes screenshots etc. If I remember correctly I found on Cnet or Filehippo, PM if you have more questions.

Stick with the majors so you will get service in case of a break down out on the road.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1587877]1. The large rental agencies should have city locations. And the rates lower compared to airport locations.

2. Getting out of SD (other than big city traffic) can be tricky as the directions are not clear always on the highway leading out of the city. I wound up in the wrong lane and had to find my way back, which per se is not a challenge but you waste time.

3. Heavy traffic at the usual morning and evening time. Mid day onward is good and daytime driving is always better as the roads are not well lit.

4. Once you are out of SD (as marked by the toll booth) by the other poster, it is smooth sailing. There should not be much traffic and the countryside, around Bonao is very beautiful.

5. You will find women standing on highways looking for business as well. There are cabanas along the highways or your car.

Enjoy the country and the ride![/QUOTE]

So me and my girl are getting dressed and getting ready to leave the house. I started putting on my jeans. She said no, put on your shorts. I said baby I don't have any shorts, only swimming trunks. She said put those on then and put on this sleeveless t-shirt. I said, but we are not going to the beach and I don't want to look ridiculous. She said you won't look ridiculous. It is hot here and you need to dress comfortable. I said but my friends say you need to wear pants and a nice shirt in the city. She said they don't know what the hell they are talking about. So I'm on the way to Zona Colonial with my beach clothes on by advisement of a local.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1588786]So me and my girl are getting dressed and getting ready to leave the house. I started putting on my jeans. She said no, put on your shorts. I said baby I don't have any shorts, only swimming trunks. She said put those on then and put on this sleeveless t-shirt. I said, but we are not going to the beach and I don't want to look ridiculous. She said you won't look ridiculous. It is hot here and you need to dress comfortable. I said but my friends say you need to wear pants and a nice shirt in the city. She said they don't know what the hell they are talking about. So I'm on the way to Zona Colonial with my beach clothes on by advisement of a local.[/QUOTE]Maybe, my brother, she wants to advertise that she is with a gringo.

My girl took me to the salon she goes to to get a manicure and pedicure. It is in Zona Colonial and the name is Jovy Jhon. We went in and inquired. The lady said that she doesn't work on men. I said why not, hands are hands and feet are feet. The girl repeated that she can't do men. I said but the place even has JHON in the name!

We left and came to a much nicer salon next to Villar Hermanos. The receptionist said the total will be 400 pesos. So I'm here waiting for my turn. My girl said that what it is is that the girl's husband is very jealous and does not allow her to work on men. I couldn't stop laughing. Money doesn't have a sex.

Just a quick report. I was in SD with 2 of my friends again this weekend. Had a good time. Only time getting scammed by a taxi this trip was 5 am from the Casino to Hotel Roma 2 Friday night when I forgot to ask how much the price was before getting in the cab. What should have been a $3-5 cab ride ended up being $15.00. When he asked for the $15.00 I got out of the cab gave him $5 and walked away. He called the cops they came. They were not really taking sides but, told me straight up they could not do anything to me or make me pay. I ended up giving him $10 more anyway, just to shut him up from calling me a thief and I was exhausted and wanted to go to bed. I called my girl from Baby dolls and she came over stayed with me all night. She left at noon the next day or (so she said) and I was still asleep. About 1 pm I woke up and had a text from her calling me and Abusador. (means person who makes people work and doesn't pay for the work provided) I told her I was dead asleep and didn't even know she left. I asked why she didn't wake me up. She continued on. I just shut my phone off but, went to baby dolls later that night and gave her $75.00 she all of a sudden became very friendly again.

Still something about the culture or some of the people down there that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

Anyway, Went to Teresa, Foxys and Baby Dolls with Baby dolls having the most talent by far this trip. There were a ton of girls both nights and most very attractive. My friends went to Slip on me Saturday afternoon and had a very good experience. They said it was by far the most erotic massage they have ever had with a happy ending at the end for no up charge. So $50 gets you the hr massage and a HJ.

Sunday Morning I went to the massage parlor at the airport again. Hoping to get a happy ending and a nice send off for my trip home there were 3 people working there. One was a guy and the other two were girls and total cold fishes. Not attractive at all. I guess it was a slow day. Overall a fun trip.

Reading the post below, has anyone received extra services at the airport massage place? The last time I went there, I tried to see if the girl would hint at providing any extra services but no go. However, I've read below that it's possible. Do you just ask them straight up? Last time I got stuck with one of the more. Meh, I wouldn't call her unattractive but the other girl that was there was better looking. A LOT better looking. I leave out of Santo Domingo again for my upcoming trip, I might give the airport massage another shot if this is really true.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1588801]Maybe, my brother, she wants to advertise that she is with a gringo.[/QUOTE]She said that when you see people dressed with the pants and shirt in the daytime they are out working. We just came from the movies and sure enough at the mall everybody and their dads had on shorts and t-shirts and flip flops.

Then we get back and she goes to take a shower. When my turn comes there is no freakin water. D damn R.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1588972]She said that when you see people dressed with the pants and shirt in the daytime they are out working. We just came from the movies and sure enough at the mall everybody and their dads had on shorts and t-shirts and flip flops.

Then we get back and she goes to take a shower. When my turn comes there is no freakin water. D damn R.[/QUOTE]Lmao, see your bad karma made the water stop running LOL.

[QUOTE=Mfins;1588929]Just a quick report. I was in SD with 2 of my friends again this weekend. Had a good time. Only time getting scammed by a taxi this trip was 5 am from the Casino to Hotel Roma 2 Friday night when I forgot to ask how much the price was before getting in the cab. What should have been a $3-5 cab ride ended up being $15.00. When he asked for the $15.00 I got out of the cab gave him $5 and walked away. He called the cops they came. They were not really taking sides but, told me straight up they could not do anything to me or make me pay. I ended up giving him $10 more anyway, just to shut him up from calling me a thief and I was exhausted and wanted to go to bed. .[/QUOTE]You mentioned that you walked off after he tried to charge you 15 bucks. So when he said he would call the police, you turned around, went back to the taxi and waited until they showed up? Or the police went up to your hotel room and asked you to come downstairs? How long did it take for the police to arrive on a taxi dispute?

When you went to give him the extra 10 bucks, you should have snapped a picture and then said "Now I am going to post this on the internet so all the gringos will know that you are a thief and not to use you!

That is uncanny. To wait for the cops, then the cops said they could not do anything about it, yet give the guy 10 more dollars anyway. As far as I would have been concerned it would have been over after I gave him the fair price of $5 and walked away.

You never know what the police will do. I would not want to put my money that the police will be honest.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1589166]That is uncanny. To wait for the cops, then the cops said they could not do anything about it, yet give the guy 10 more dollars anyway. As far as I would have been concerned it would have been over after I gave him the fair price of $5 and walked away.[/QUOTE]

Took me a while to find this, so I thought I'd bump it up for your convenience. It is a monger map for Santo Domingo.

[URL]https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&ie=UTF8&ll=18.480627,-69.965143&spn=0.009891,0.019248&z=16&msid=106767774275556555984.00046d685b11334063b43&mid=1246199584&dg=feature[/URL]

Thank you Boricua.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1589135]You mentioned that you walked off after he tried to charge you 15 bucks. So when he said he would call the police, you turned around, went back to the taxi and waited until they showed up? Or the police went up to your hotel room and asked you to come downstairs? How long did it take for the police to arrive on a taxi dispute?

When you went to give him the extra 10 bucks, you should have snapped a picture and then said "Now I am going to post this on the internet so all the gringos will know that you are a thief and not to use you![/QUOTE]Honestly and I think I speak for most of us its really not the $10 its the principle. I gave him $5. 00 after he demanded $15 he then called the police from his cel. They must have been right around the corner because they were there in less than 10 minutes. I waited inside the lobby of the Hotel. When the police arrived I went out outside. My intention in doing that was to argue my point and also let this guy know I wasnt going to be bullied into paying him more by his threat of calling the police. However, this was at 5 am and the more I waited and then went into a discussion with the police the more I lost my will to fight and just threw the $10 at him. I was tired and was ready to go upstairs and call my girl to come over.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1589166]That is uncanny. To wait for the cops, then the cops said they could not do anything about it, yet give the guy 10 more dollars anyway. As far as I would have been concerned it would have been over after I gave him the fair price of $5 and walked away.[/QUOTE]Yes as I stated in another post my intention was to prove that I was not going to back down from his threat of calling the cops and am so sick of these guys trying to rip me off I was going to argue my point. However, I just got tired and threw the money at him and finally walked to my room after shaking the cops hands.

I really hate reading about this happening again and again. It's not hard to avoid. Before you get in the taxi, ask the fare, ask the fare, ask the fare. Ask when you call for a taxi by phone, then confirm with the driver before getting in. The drivers love it when a foreigner gets in without asking, they know they are about to get a big payday. Ask the fare. Think about it, does anyone get on an airplane first and check the ticket to see how much you paid later, of course not.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1589166]That is uncanny. To wait for the cops, then the cops said they could not do anything about it, yet give the guy 10 more dollars anyway. As far as I would have been concerned it would have been over after I gave him the fair price of $5 and walked away.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;1587972]You may be doing everything on earth the right way as you and even she perceives and any woman will still cheat given the proper inducements. Sad to say but fear of financial loss and physical consequences are greater prohibitions above morality for a Dominicana.[/QUOTE]Quite true, and even with that in mind or in place, enough novias will take the chance of losing those benefits because they could NOT let a juicy opportunity in the moment past them by. Their belief may be, he's out of sight, out of mind. "As long as my benefactor doesn't know, doesn't see it, can't verify it, or I can lie my ass off enough to convince him I had to do it, keep him off balance with smokescreens, I can convince him it didn't happen or I won't do it again. ". End result. She generally gets over without a hitch. Gets reinforced with the presumption that they are that good and may never get caught. And even if they did get busted, the novio aint gonna lose or walk away from that juice.
Guys in this forum and elsewhere bear witness to that fact simply by their reports and complaints of how their novias are a burden to them, but they cant cut them loose. That's an incentive for enough chicas/novias to cheat because the risk of losing some benefit may be low or non existent.

Hey all,

I am a long time lurker, finally decided to add to the discussion. I was wondering if any of you in SD know about the Plaza Caribe near La Duarte? I have been there a few times to have a beer. It is like a typical dance club, but caters to men only. Would be a great place to go and learn some moves if you want to know more about Dominican dancing.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1589787]I really hate reading about this happening again and again. It's not hard to avoid. Before you get in the taxi, ask the fare, ask the fare, ask the fare. Ask when you call for a taxi by phone, then confirm with the driver before getting in. The drivers love it when a foreigner gets in without asking, they know they are about to get a big payday. Ask the fare. Think about it, does anyone get on an airplane first and check the ticket to see how much you paid later, of course not.[/QUOTE]Well put! NO asking means. Charge me anything when I am done.

[QUOTE=Soberano;1590537]I was wondering if any of you in SD know about the Plaza Caribe near La Duarte? I have been there a few times to have a beer. It is like a typical dance club, but caters to [b]men only[/b]. Would be a great place to go and learn some moves if you want to know more about Dominican dancing.[/QUOTE]You mean it's a gay club? No thanks. I would rather learn my moves around women.

I've read a lot of pages from this thread. And like most of us relatively new to the DR I am confused. I'll explain why:

I'm looking for a chica friendly hotel with prices that include all taxes etc, or a 1 bed / studio apartment with a safe and security guard if that combination exists at all there.

My budget is max $70 a night but would prefer to spend less, but as mentioned chica friendly, has a safe which is essential and someone there who will monitor who comes in and out of the hotel (only just so ladies give their cedula).

I have been to sosua before but not Santo Domingo so I would appreciate any help.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1590791]I've read a lot of pages from this thread. And like most of us relatively new to the DR I am confused. I'll explain why:

I'm looking for a chica friendly hotel with prices that include all taxes etc, or a 1 bed / studio apartment with a safe and security guard if that combination exists at all there.

My budget is max $70 a night but would prefer to spend less, but as mentioned chica friendly, has a safe which is essential and someone there who will monitor who comes in and out of the hotel (only just so ladies give their cedula).

I have been to sosua before but not Santo Domingo so I would appreciate any help.[/QUOTE]In gazcue, apartemanta juagar or razor should be good since you don't visit sd much. In zona colonial try roma dos on the conde. Plenty of others but might be a few dollars over yur budget.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1590791]I've read a lot of pages from this thread. And like most of us relatively new to the DR I am confused. I'll explain why:

I'm looking for a chica friendly hotel with prices that include all taxes etc, or a 1 bed / studio apartment with a safe and security guard if that combination exists at all there.

My budget is max $70 a night but would prefer to spend less, but as mentioned chica friendly, has a safe which is essential and someone there who will monitor who comes in and out of the hotel (only just so ladies give their cedula).

I have been to consist before but not Santo Domingo so I would appreciate any help.[/QUOTE]In Gazcue area (near malecon) there are a few: Jaguar, Riazor, San Francisco de Asis, Mystik, La Morada and others. Daily cost between $40 and $60, all guest friendly.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1590866]In Gazcue area (near malecon) there are a few: Jaguar, Riazor, San Francisco de Asis, Mystik, La Morada and others. Daily cost between $40 and $60, all guest friendly.[/QUOTE]Thanks Boricua and Grandnash.

I have a date lines up over the weekend but after that I'll be on the prowl. Where exactly is GBP and the SW action? Can I propose a fee to most girls I see at any club in the capital or is that a dangerous mistake?

I don't mind trying out brothels if they'll let the girl come to mine.

Here's how I approached women back at the'latin and rumbas in sosua: "Cuanto por la hora?" I realise I'll need to adapt slightly and be a bit more friendly. Is there anywhere like rumba or the'latins in the capital?

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1591048]Thanks Boricua and Grandnash.

I have a date lines up over the weekend but after that I'll be on the prowl. Where exactly is GBP and the SW action? Can I propose a fee to most girls I see at any club in the capital or is that a dangerous mistake?

I don't mind trying out brothels if they'll let the girl come to mine.

Here's how I approached women back at the'latin and rumbas in sosua: "Cuanto por la hora?" I realise I'll need to adapt slightly and be a bit more friendly. Is there anywhere like rumba or the'latins in the capital?[/QUOTE]Is easy to assume that everyone in Sosua nightclub are p4 p. That's not the case and Santo Domingo. Be careful not to offend a chica. There are a lot of average chica going out and just having chica fun. From my experience the streetwalkers travel by themselves. They don't necessarily hang in clubs. The average price in a brothel is now 4000 pesos st. Expect to see a lot of ass and tits jobs.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1591048]
Here's how I approached women back at the'latin and rumbas in sosua: "Cuanto por la hora?" [/QUOTE]Oh, you old romantic! That should work fine in Santo Domingo as she will either start negotiations with you or give you a knee in the balls. Probably the latter. I don't know of any large bars in Santo Domingo that are populated exclusively by freelance prostitutes. I have never seen one and no one has reported on one on this board that I know of. There are a number of brothels that give a superficial appearance of being a bar, but that is a very different matter, because in those places as soon as you walk in the door it is you and only you who is the center of attention of every single person in the place including the barman, the bouncer, the girls, and the manager.

If you are going to approach single women in bars you might try a little bit of light conversation before asking about hourly rates. "Hi you are beautiful, how much for an hour?" or "Hello, I love you, won't you tell me your name?

[QUOTE=Frannie;1591159]or "Hello, I love you, won't you tell me your name?[/QUOTE]Haha. I cracked up with that. Long live The Doors!

The way I see it reading here, for most of the clueless, the whole country is a big brothel and one of these days, they are going to ask the girlfriend of the President, the same inane question in a Santo Domingo club: " How much?" No wonder the authorities are clamping down.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1591159]If you are going to approach single women in bars you might try a little bit of light conversation before asking about hourly rates. "Hi you are beautiful, how much for an hour?" or "Hello, I love you, won't you tell me your name?[/QUOTE]Frannie is correct in fact I have found that flattery and light conversation are effective regardless as to whether the chica is civilian or pro. Something like "porque hizo Dios hacer las mujeres tan hermosa?" "why did God make women so beautiful?" The comment will surely net a smile and then you can make light conversation and go from there. I see nothing wrong with beginning all encounters with respect.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1453867]GBP has stepped up the talent. I know you guys don't like GBP for the sleaze factor but that is something I like. I went back yesterday after finishing work a little early, my live in was on her way to school via guagua (1 1/2 hour ordeal each way). Anyway, I saw the same girl as last time Paola. I told her I remembered her, she was happy. We went to a back room and got down to business. A girl this hot is a great bargain at 1k. The last time I was with her I finished in her mouth, she almost gagged. I told her she did not take all my leche and she remember that I shot a great big load in her mouth. I told her I want her to finish in her mouth and I want her to drink it..[/QUOTE]I thought GBP was only for short time dates, do the women readily give out their numbers to clients and will happily meet them outside the casa? If so how much do they charge for a toda la noche? I was under the impressions they lived on site in GBP?

I have never been to GBP but heading to Santo Domingo this Friday so would appreciate the information.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1591147]Is easy to assume that everyone in Sosua nightclub are p4 p. That's not the case and Santo Domingo. Be careful not to offend a chica. There are a lot of average chica going out and just having chica fun. From my experience the streetwalkers travel by themselves. They don't necessarily hang in clubs. The average price in a brothel is now 4000 pesos st. Expect to see a lot of ass and tits jobs.[/QUOTE]Where are the freelancers at? I read somewhere near the Conde. Have never been to SDO so conde could be a borough or a street. Am I correct?

[QUOTE=Frannie;1591159]Oh, you old romantic! That should work fine in Santo Domingo as she will either start negotiations with you or give you a knee in the balls. Probably the latter. I don't know of any large bars in Santo Domingo that are populated exclusively by freelance prostitutes. I have never seen one and no one has reported on one on this board that I know of. There are a number of brothels that give a superficial appearance of being a bar, but that is a very different matter, because in those places as soon as you walk in the door it is you and only you who is the center of attention of every single person in the place including the barman, the bouncer, the girls, and the manager.

If you are going to approach single women in bars you might try a little bit of light conversation before asking about hourly rates. "Hi you are beautiful, how much for an hour?" or "Hello, I love you, won't you tell me your name?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Camaro1257;1591234]Frannie is correct in fact I have found that flattery and light conversation are effective regardless as to whether the chica is civilian or pro. Something like "porque hizo Dios hacer las mujeres tan hermosa?" "why did God make women so beautiful?" The comment will surely net a smile and then you can make light conversation and go from there. I see nothing wrong with beginning all encounters with respect.[/QUOTE]I'm a shy young mine, so being direct and to the point was the way I felt most comfortable. I will try and be less serious when approaching women on this trip, anyhow in Sosua the chicas did the looking for us and saved us the trouble. I do fancy a challenge, would make it worthwhile. But I don't want to be spreading 4000 pesos for half hour or hour date unless the chica looks like this: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW0y-U0vBHs[/URL] (blue bikini 1:09 into the video).

Anyhow other than GBP, I have heard of Foxys and Terra something or other. What's my best bet in take out, as in bringing a girl over to mine without dealing with online dating sites. Do the casas or brothels allow this and how much would it be?

There seems to a lot of discussions GBP but not much else. Are strip clubs an option too?

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1591196]Haha. I cracked up with that. Long live The Doors!

The way I see it reading here, for most of the clueless, the whole country is a big brothel and one of these days, they are going to ask the girlfriend of the President, the same inane question in a Santo Domingo club: " How much?" No wonder the authorities are clamping down.[/QUOTE]Yes, if you are a Doors fan, then you can follow up with "The time to hesitate is through, Come on, baby, light my fire. ".

I guess the President already asked her what she would like, and she said "I'll have a Presidente".

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1591238]Where are the freelancers at? I read somewhere near the Conde. Have never been to SDO so conde could be a borough or a street. Am I correct?

[/QUOTE]El Conde is a pedestrian shopping street where you can find tourist goods and designer clothes and a number of cafes. It runs from Parque Colon to Parque Independencia. The street name honors the Count of Penalba, who defeated the English during the 17th century. Some people say you can find freelance hookers there, though I must say that I never have seen any.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1591234]Frannie is correct in fact I have found that flattery and light conversation are effective regardless as to whether the chica is civilian or pro. Something like "porque hizo Dios hacer las mujeres tan hermosa?" "why did God make women so beautiful?" The comment will surely net a smile and then you can make light conversation and go from there. I see nothing wrong with beginning all encounters with respect.[/QUOTE]The Zona Colonial from 7 pm to 10 pm is good. Showdown did an excellent report on the place.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1591238]Where are the freelancers at? I read somewhere near the Conde. Have never been to SDO so conde could be a borough or a street. Am I correct?[/QUOTE]I don't do streetwalkers, but I have seen them on Pasteur, and also heading West on the Malecon.

[QUOTE]I'm a shy young mine, so being direct and to the point was the way I felt most comfortable. I will try and be less serious when approaching women on this trip, anyhow in Sosua the chicas did the looking for us and saved us the trouble. I do fancy a challenge, would make it worthwhile. But I don't want to be spreading 4000 pesos for half hour or hour date unless the chica looks like this: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW0y-U0vBHs[/URL] (blue bikini 1:09 into the video).Anyhow other than GBP, I have heard of Foxys and Terra something or other. What's my best bet in take out, as in bringing a girl over to mine without dealing with online dating sites. Do the casas or brothels allow this and how much would it be? There seems to a lot of discussions GBP but not much else. Are strip clubs an option too?[/QUOTE]I've never been to GBP, but from what I have read it has the best rates out of all of the major casas de citas. Normally, with the others it's 3500-4000 pesos for 2 hours if you leave with the girl. I've done that a few times, and the girls seem to be more or less hit or miss. I've only had 1 complete dud, and that was on my first trip, and she wasn't from a casa. You will find all types of girls in the Casas. My favorite is Theresa, but I've never been disappointed with the quality in any that I've visited except 305. I've only gone there twice, so maybe it was just bad timing. My friends swear by the place.

My question for you would be how is your spanish? If you can speak good spanish, then you can find women in different places (clubs, bars, car wash / pool halls, malls). If you don't speak spanish, it makes things a little more difficult, and you might want to check with the hotel to see if they have a driver available. Unless you just want to hang in the el conde / malecon area, you are going to need transportation in Santo Domingo. My first trip 2 1/2 years ago, I only spoke basic spanish, and I still had a ball in Santo Domingo, but I also had an english speaking driver who was taking me all over the place. Be careful with the english speaking drivers, because they will try to overcharge you which, is why I recommend asking the hotel for a driver that they trust. Better yet, be careful with any driver english or spanish, because the gringo tax is in effect. Always know the rate before getting in the taxi, and don't be afraid to walk away if they are asking for something stupid. Finally, be careful with that offering money to every female that you meet stuff. Santo Domingo is a big city, where many of the women will get offended if you label them a prostitute by offering money. If money is needed, you will know. Here is a link to Boricuas online map, which should give you an idea where things are located.

[URL]https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&ie=UTF8&ll=18.480627,-69.965143&spn=0.009891,0.019248&z=16&msid=106767774275556555984.00046d685b11334063b43&mid=1246199584&dg=feature[/URL]

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1591048]Thanks Boricua and Grandnash.

I have a date lines up over the weekend but after that I'll be on the prowl. Where exactly is GBP and the SW action? Can I propose a fee to most girls I see at any club in the capital or is that a dangerous mistake?

I don't mind trying out brothels if they'll let the girl come to mine.

Here's how I approached women back at the'latin and rumbas in sosua: "Cuanto por la hora?" I realise I'll need to adapt slightly and be a bit more friendly. Is there anywhere like rumba or the'latins in the capital?[/QUOTE]A girl I see in most of my trips asked for a birthday gift last week using Whatsapp. I told her that she did not gave me a gift last January. She told me she had sex with me on my last visit on May and that was my birthday gift. The fact is I paid her for sex but I told her: take 2,000 for gasoline. During my last trip I called a girl I met a year ago, we had sex but I do not remember how much I paid that time so I asked her how much does she want and she got offended. "You gave me 1500 as a gift" was her answer. Always try to get on a $$$ agreement with the girl before but propose it as a gift, never as a payment for sexual services.

[QUOTE=Troubleman69;1591293] Here is a link to Boricuas online map, which should give you an idea where things are located.[/QUOTE]Friendly and constructive post with helpful pointers. Much better than my acerbic post. Appreciated.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1591334]Friendly and constructive post with helpful pointers. Much better than my acerbic post. Appreciated.[/QUOTE]Hi T, how's it going? I really appreciate all your assistance. I am still planning my first trip to Santiago, Santo Domingo and PP in January 2015 and hope to catch up with you there for a few cervezas on me.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1591326]A girl I see in most of my trips asked for a birthday gift last week using Whatsapp. I told her that she did not gave me a gift last January. She told me she had sex with me on my last visit on May and that was my birthday gift. The fact is I paid her for sex but I told her: take 2,000 for gasoline. During my last trip I called a girl I met a year ago, we had sex but I do not remember how much I paid that time so I asked her how much does she want and she got offended. "You gave me 1500 as a gift" was her answer. Always try to get on a $$$ agreement with the girl before but propose it as a gift, never as a payment for sexual services.[/QUOTE]"Non pros" that take money for sex and say that having sex with me was my gift (for my birthday or father's day or some other day). I tell them wait, for your birthday I'll have sex with you as your gift. They get confused as they don't see the irony.

Once I was in Atlanta at an asian massage place and the girl asked for $140 upfront, she was very good and we had a good session. Afterwards, I wanted a second round and she obliged, she came several times on my second round as I was going for a long time. She said she came 4 times. I then asked her for $140 from her, I told her it was a bargain as she came twice as much as I did. She should have paid me $280. She laughed and took it as the joke it was meant.

I won't give a regular girl gifts or money constantly, I give like every other visit or date. If they ask for something everytime I make them feel bad and ask them how much does sex cost, I've also found out that regular girls don't like to be thanked for sex, that pisses them off. I'll give them the "gift" and say thank you. Then they don't usually ask so often.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1591282]El Conde is a pedestrian shopping street where you can find tourist goods and designer clothes and a number of cafes. It runs from Parque Colon to Parque Independencia. The street name honors the Count of Penalba, who defeated the English during the 17th century. Some people say you can find freelance hookers there, though I must say that I never have seen any.[/QUOTE]I have walked one night on el Conde and 3 ladies came to me to go to my hotel. One asked $50 but I was tired and flying home next morning and I passed. It was the only time I was there.

Yesterday me and my girl were talking about men giving women money. She said she hates a woman who asks a man for money saying they have needs. She said everyone has needs, so that is nothing special or different from the rest of the world who has to get off their asses and work.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1591715]Yesterday me and my girl were talking about men giving women money. She said she hates a woman who asks a man for money saying they have needs. She said everyone has needs, so that is nothing special or different from the rest of the world who has to get off their asses and work.[/QUOTE]Does she have a sister!

[QUOTE=Ozzie1451;1591710]I have walked one night on el Conde and 3 ladies came to me to go to my hotel. One asked $50 but I was tired and flying home next morning and I passed. It was the only time I was there.[/QUOTE]You can walk the anywhere in the city and a free lancer will find a Gringo walking the streets. Those saying they can't find anything in the city are not looking at all.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1591748]Does she have a sister![/QUOTE]All 3 of those are married. She said she has a friend for you though.

Thanks everyone for comments and tips to my questions. It is much appreciated. If anyone is passing through Santo Domingo over the next couple weeks, let me know. Drinks on me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1591782]All 3 of those are married. She said she has a friend for you though.[/QUOTE]My Ninja! Seter up! Wait a minute what area we talking about LR, ST, PP, PC, LT or SDQ. You know you are everywhere!

What's the going rate for hotel riazor? I plan to stay there for a few days before browsing for another hotel.

[QUOTE=Troubleman69;1591293]I don't do streetwalkers, but I have seen them on Pasteur, and also heading West on the Malecon.

I've never been to GBP, but from what I have read it has the best rates out of all of the major casas de citas. Normally, with the others it's 3500-4000 pesos for 2 hours if you leave with the girl. I've done that a few times, and the girls seem to be more or less hit or miss. I've only had 1 complete dud, and that was on my first trip, and she wasn't from a casa. You will find all types of girls in the Casas. My favorite is Theresa, but I've never been disappointed with the quality in any that I've visited except 305. I've only gone there twice, so maybe it was just bad timing. My friends swear by the place.

My question for you would be how is your spanish? If you can speak good spanish, then you can find women in different places (clubs, bars, car wash / pool halls, malls). If you don't speak spanish, it makes things a little more difficult, and you might want to check with the hotel to see if they have a driver available. Unless you just want to hang in the el conde / malecon area, you are going to need transportation in Santo Domingo. My first trip 2 1/2 years ago, I only spoke basic spanish, and I still had a ball in Santo Domingo, but I also had an english speaking driver who was taking me all over the place. Be careful with the english speaking drivers, because they will try to overcharge you which, is why I recommend asking the hotel for a driver that they trust. Better yet, be careful with any driver english or spanish, because the gringo tax is in effect. Always know the rate before getting in the taxi, and don't be afraid to walk away if they are asking for something stupid. Finally, be careful with that offering money to every female that you meet stuff. Santo Domingo is a big city, where many of the women will get offended if you label them a prostitute by offering money. If money is needed, you will know. Here is a link to Boricuas online map, which should give you an idea where things are located.

[URL]https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&ie=UTF8&ll=18.480627,-69.965143&spn=0.009891,0.019248&z=16&msid=106767774275556555984.00046d685b11334063b43&mid=1246199584&dg=feature[/URL][/QUOTE]My Spanish is OK, I wouldn't go as far as good, though I'm trying to learn by chatting to chicas on whatsapp (heavily reliant on Itranslate on the Iphone though). But like I told most of them that I hadn't previously met before, It'll be far easier for me chatting to them in person than on whatsapp.

I'm British, so to me a car wash is literally a car wash, surely you're not referring to an actual car washes, or are they fronts as car washes? I think I will head to some hotels listed by other members (riazor or Asis and then once I have my bearings I may then head somewhere different. I may hire a car if need be but I feel 200 pesos to go anywhere within santo domingo is a fair price for the convenience but when I travel to santiago or Sosua I may hire a car then though I'm not sure how easy it is to navigate through these routes. One thing I am good it is not getting ripped off by taxis or anywhere for that matter and won't go looking for a taxi that speaks english. For example in my first trip to the DR, I arrived at santiago airport (It was pitch black by the taxi stand). There was only one taxi there, who already had a fare, he waited till a taxi he called up arrived though I didn't ask him too and my fare to Sosua from the airport was $50. Thanks for the link to the map, it will prove to be vitally important. 4000 pesos for two hours at home seems a little steep, and as I've read on the forum, many of these women it is said can be found in sosua one day for 1500 and 4000 in SD the next.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1592352]My Spanish is OK, I wouldn't go as far as good, though I'm trying to learn by chatting to chicas on whatsapp (heavily reliant on Itranslate on the Iphone though). But like I told most of them that I hadn't previously met before, It'll be far easier for me chatting to them in person than on whatsapp.

I'm British, so to me a car wash is literally a car wash, surely you're not referring to an actual car washes, or are they fronts as car washes? I think I will head to some hotels listed by other members (riazor or Asis and then once I have my bearings I may then head somewhere different. I may hire a car if need be but I feel 200 pesos to go anywhere within santo domingo is a fair price for the convenience but when I travel to santiago or Sosua I may hire a car then though I'm not sure how easy it is to navigate through these routes. One thing I am good it is not getting ripped off by taxis or anywhere for that matter and won't go looking for a taxi that speaks english. For example in my first trip to the DR, I arrived at santiago airport (It was pitch black by the taxi stand). There was only one taxi there, who already had a fare, he waited till a taxi he called up arrived though I didn't ask him too and my fare to Sosua from the airport was $50. Thanks for the link to the map, it will prove to be vitally important. 4000 pesos for two hours at home seems a little steep, and as I've read on the forum, many of these women it is said can be found in sosua one day for 1500 and 4000 in SD the next.[/QUOTE]Yes. Car washes are often fronts for "take out" service. Many of the girls have to wait until the ends of their shifts to leave from what I am told. I have never partaken in the service personally.

As far as a taxi in SD, I can help with that. It will be about 1000 pesos from the airport to the Colonial Zone.

To get to Sosua or Santiago just hop on Caribe Tours. Its a bus which has reasonable prices. Once again, the taxi company will take you from the Colonial Zone to Caribe Tours bus station for 150 pesos. Never go with the guys who stand around saying "Taxi, taxi, taxi. " Always call a company. If you need help, send me a PM and I will clue you in.

Same goes for finding GBP, or anything else you want to do. I live here and I have been wanting some English speaking company for a good minute.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1590575]You mean it's a gay club? No thanks. I would rather learn my moves around women.[/QUOTE]Come on, man. Caters to men only. I mean, I could see if I said "has an all male staff. " But don't clubs like GBP and all the others cater to men only? That means there targeted clientele are men.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1592352]My Spanish is OK, I wouldn't go as far as good, though I'm trying to learn by chatting to chicas on whatsapp (heavily reliant on Itranslate on the Iphone though). But like I told most of them that I hadn't previously met before, It'll be far easier for me chatting to them in person than on whatsapp.[/QUOTE]Funny, because at first it was harder for me to converse with them in person than using the translator. It's better for me now, but at first I couldn't understand anything that they were saying. Every now and then I still run into problems, especially if it's an environment with loud music playing, or lots of people talking.

[QUOTE]I'm British, so to me a car wash is literally a car wash, surely you're not referring to an actual car washes, or are they fronts as car washes?[/QUOTE]It's a car wash with a bar, music, pool tables, maybe a dance floor, and lots of chicas. Even the sports bar formerly known as La Base (can't remember the new name) has a car wash on the side of it.

[QUOTE] I think I will head to some hotels listed by other members (riazor or Asis and then once I have my bearings I may then head somewhere different. I may hire a car if need be but I feel 200 pesos to go anywhere within santo domingo is a fair price for the convenience but when I travel to santiago or Sosua I may hire a car then though I'm not sure how easy it is to navigate through these routes. One thing I am good it is not getting ripped off by taxis or anywhere for that matter and won't go looking for a taxi that speaks english. For example in my first trip to the DR, I arrived at santiago airport (It was pitch black by the taxi stand). There was only one taxi there, who already had a fare, he waited till a taxi he called up arrived though I didn't ask him too and my fare to Sosua from the airport was $50.[/QUOTE]Search the forum for a number to Apollo taxi. They have been recommended here in the past. I normally get a card from taxistas who aren't trying to overcharge me, and they appreciate the repeat business.

[QUOTE] Thanks for the link to the map, it will prove to be vitally important. 4000 pesos for two hours at home seems a little steep, and as I've read on the forum, many of these women it is said can be found in sosua one day for 1500 and 4000 in SD the next.[/QUOTE]It's the reason why many guys prefer the freelance option over the casas. As Alex mentioned, it's not hard to find them. I remember now that I have been approached on El Conde. It's just not my thing. The hardest part for many guys is the transportation aspect. Women will not be that hard to find. It's just up to you on what type you want.

She said she is in position to receive me in a few days.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1592352]My Spanish is OK, I wouldn't go as far as good, though I'm trying to learn by chatting to chicas on whatsapp (heavily reliant on Itranslate on the Iphone though). But like I told most of them that I hadn't previously met before, It'll be far easier for me chatting to them in person than on whatsapp.

I'm British, so to me a car wash is literally a car wash, surely you're not referring to an actual car washes, or are they fronts as car washes? I think I will head to some hotels listed by other members (riazor or Asis and then once I have my bearings I may then head somewhere different. I may hire a car if need be but I feel 200 pesos to go anywhere within santo domingo is a fair price for the convenience but when I travel to santiago or Sosua I may hire a car then though I'm not sure how easy it is to navigate through these routes. One thing I am good it is not getting ripped off by taxis or anywhere for that matter and won't go looking for a taxi that speaks english. For example in my first trip to the DR, I arrived at santiago airport (It was pitch black by the taxi stand). There was only one taxi there, who already had a fare, he waited till a taxi he called up arrived though I didn't ask him too and my fare to Sosua from the airport was $50. Thanks for the link to the map, it will prove to be vitally important. 4000 pesos for two hours at home seems a little steep, and as I've read on the forum, many of these women it is said can be found in sosua one day for 1500 and 4000 in SD the next.[/QUOTE]Never stayed at razior but I heard its a good deal. Nice clean hotel, but everyone says the beds are too hard. I believe it comes with free breakfeast at monolos, the resturant next door. Monolos is a very expensive resturant if your just eating there. A block up the street is a dominican resturant / bakery that is very good. It is always packed and a very clean place. As far as the car washes, I've only been to one, puro car wash. Been there twice. Was quoted 5000 pesos for short term lmaooooo. More expensive than the casas and the women at the wash don't even look as good as the chicas in the casas. And the drinks are expensive at the car wash, I guess that's how they stay afloat. puro is a straight up car wash with a bar next to it thats on the same property. if you scroll this forum to around nov or dec of last year someone listed all the casas and car washes with their addresses. If your spanish is very limited maybe the car washes arent for you. Need good spanish, you can use your translator on your phone but after a while it gets old. I woulndt hire a car to go to sosua or santiago, I would take metro or caribe tours. Seems like the only thing that runs efficent in the dr is the bus system. 350 pesos will get you to sosua from sd. Take about 4-5 hours depending on traffic. Same time as taking a car. If you hire a dirver its $200 minium to get to sosua from sd. But if your from the uk you get a good exchage rate so everything will be a lot cheaper for you LOL.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1592611]She said she is in position to receive me in a few days.[/QUOTE]Is she at the jaguar apartments? LOL.

[QUOTE=Grandnash84;1592615] Take about 4-5 hours depending on traffic. Same time as taking a car. If you hire a dirver its $200 minium to get to sosua from sd. But if your from the uk you get a good exchage rate so everything will be a lot cheaper for you LOL.[/QUOTE]Dude who was riding in the car with you Miss Daisy. It takes 3 to 3 1/2 in a car. I'll only traveled Juan Pablo II from SD and BC to Sosua. I think this time I will try the SD, ST, and Sosua- Duarte route. It it took us 2 hours to drive from ST to SD. It took 1 hour 15 to drive from ST to Sosua. Mr E said the new road took him 45 minutes to and 1 hour I think. I am thinking its going to take about the same 3 1/2 total. The Duarte route from SD to ST is more open, less cities, all hwy, no major turn and allot cheaper. Only 1 toll.

[QUOTE=Grandnash84;1592615]Never stayed at razior but I heard its a good deal. Nice clean hotel, but everyone says the beds are too hard. I believe it comes with free breakfeast at monolos, the resturant next door. Monolos is a very expensive resturant if your just eating there. A block up the street is a dominican resturant / bakery that is very good. It is always packed and a very clean place. As far as the car washes, I've only been to one, puro car wash. Been there twice. Was quoted 5000 pesos for short term lmaooooo. More expensive than the casas and the women at the wash don't even look as good as the chicas in the casas. And the drinks are expensive at the car wash, I guess that's how they stay afloat. puro is a straight up car wash with a bar next to it thats on the same property. if you scroll this forum to around nov or dec of last year someone listed all the casas and car washes with their addresses. If your spanish is very limited maybe the car washes arent for you. Need good spanish, you can use your translator on your phone but after a while it gets old. I woulndt hire a car to go to sosua or santiago, I would take metro or caribe tours. Seems like the only thing that runs efficent in the dr is the bus system. 350 pesos will get you to sosua from sd. Take about 4-5 hours depending on traffic. Same time as taking a car. If you hire a dirver its $200 minium to get to sosua from sd. But if your from the uk you get a good exchage rate so everything will be a lot cheaper for you LOL.[/QUOTE]Well I'm having a chica come from Bani on Friday night, so there won't be much sleep for me (I hope) after having slept on a 10 hour flight to DR. Plus I hope to catch a 4 pm bus from punta cana to santo dom. This is a list of stops from [URL]espressobavaro.com[/URL] the bus company, can you tell me which is closest to the hotel riazor please: (I really don't want to spend a night in Punta Cana as it sounds awful).

Calle Consuelo (San Pedro de Macorís) en la autovia.

Shell de Boca Chica (junto al BHD).

Parada de Andrés Boca Chica (terminal de autobuses).

Aeropuerto (próximo al supermercado Olé) parada de taxis.

Autovia de Samaná.

Av. San Vicente de Paul.

Sabana Larga.

José Fabrea con 27 Feb.

México con José Martí.

Puente Juan Carlos.

Máximo Gómez (parada final).

Do you know if I can by a sim card at punta cana? As that would be helpful. I've already read Camaro's post on Santo Dom, was helpfull. Hopefully I can just name the places he's listed and taxis will know what I'm on about. One thing that confuses me a little (from his post) - He says that all bars have numbered tables with a waitress assigned to a few and if you pay a salida fee you can take them round your house for a couple hours or so. My guess is he was referring to car washes and not regular bars, as I'm starting to think there are none there now.

Troubleman69 thanks for the apollo taxi tip, and explaining what a car wash is, I felt rather silly asking. I learned some spanish at school, didn't practice any for a few years and I love me some latinas so I'm a very motivated student these days. Listening to demboy and dominican rap helps with the chicas. I seem to have a knack for languages as I also speak French and Arabic, and portuguese is next on the list. Unless the talent in SD is worthy of the extra pesos, or the nightlife I'll head to Sosua pronto.

I miss the days where £1 = $2, had a lot cheap holidays back then, it's £1= $1. 71 . We'll get there, fingers crossed LOL. And folks, once I'm there I'll be posting pics of chicas and a few reports.

[QUOTE=Soberano;1592490]Come on, man. Caters to men only. I mean, I could see if I said "has an all male staff. " But don't clubs like GBP and all the others cater to men only? That means there targeted clientele are men.[/QUOTE]My bad homey. I didn't know you meant practice dancing with chicks inside of a fuckhouse. The only dance I will be doing there is the horizontal shuffle.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1592971] I've already read Camaro's post on Santo Dom, was helpfull. Hopefully I can just name the places he's listed and taxis will know what I'm on about. One thing that confuses me a little (from his post) - He says that all bars have numbered tables with a waitress assigned to a few and if you pay a salida fee you can take them round your house for a couple hours or so. My guess is he was referring to car washes and not regular bars, as I'm starting to think there are none there now.
.[/QUOTE]I made a separate section in my Santo Domingo report for PFP bars and a couple of those venues had tables with numbers and the waitresses and staff were available for take out with salida.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1592971]Plus I hope to catch a 4 pm bus from punta cana to santo dom. This is a list of stops from [URL]espressobavaro.com[/URL] the bus company, can you tell me which is closest to the hotel riazor please:[/QUOTE]Shit. None of them. But if you twisted my arm I would have to say Puente Juan Carlos or Maximo Gomez. After looking at the website, if the Maximo Gomez stop is anywhere close to their office (which is listed as where you board the bus to go to Punta Cana) then that is definitely where you want to get off. From there it is very close. Not walking close, but 3 minutes taxi close. Says 600 meters on the map [url]https://maps.google.com.do/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Hotel+Riazor,+Santo+Domingo&daddr=expreso+b%C3%A1varo&hl=es&geocode=&aq=0&oq=hotel+ri&vps=1&sll=18.46579,-69.905126&sspn=0.011153,0.021136&vpsrc=6&mra=ls&ie=UTF8[/url]

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1592971]Do you know if I can by a sim card at punta cana?[/QUOTE]There is not a place inside of the airport. (Punta Cana Airport is really just a big hut. That is the only part you will see when you arrive. If you fly out of there you will be in a more modern part that was recently completed.) But when you leave the airport about 1 minute down the road you will see a plaza on the left called Punta Cana Village. Claro (cell phone company) is inside of that plaza. There is a Wendy's in the same plaza.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1593011]I made a separate section in my Santo Domingo report for PFP bars and a couple of those venues had tables with numbers and the waitresses and staff were available for take out with salida.[/QUOTE]I'll have a third read through your post and see if that helps.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1593015]Shit. None of them. But if you twisted my arm I would have to say Puente Juan Carlos or Maximo Gomez. After looking at the website, if the Maximo Gomez stop is anywhere close to their office (which is listed as where you board the bus to go to Punta Cana) then that is definitely where you want to get off. From there it is very close. Not walking close, but 3 minutes taxi close. Says 600 meters on the map [url]https://maps.google.com.do/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Hotel+Riazor,+Santo+Domingo&daddr=expreso+b%C3%A1varo&hl=es&geocode=&aq=0&oq=hotel+ri&vps=1&sll=18.46579,-69.905126&sspn=0.011153,0.021136&vpsrc=6&mra=ls&ie=UTF8[/url]

Thanks for looking into it, would have been helpful had I made it in time for the bus.

There is not a place inside of the airport. (Punta Cana Airport is really just a big hut. That is the only part you will see when you arrive. If you fly out of there you will be in a more modern part that was recently completed.) But when you leave the airport about 1 minute down the road you will see a plaza on the left called Punta Cana Village. Claro (cell phone company) is inside of that plaza. There is a Wendy's in the same plaza.[/QUOTE]Arrived today and the huts were nice, can definitely tell its all about gringo tourism at this airport.

flight- thomsom flight 50, the 787 dreamliner was nice, especially if you're into planes and stuff which i am. flight was due to leave at 10:30 instead left at 12 pm.

bus connection- was due to catch a bus to santo domingo from punta cana, but i missed it, and so followed some more unfortunate incidents.

taxi driver, i finally went through the last area (exit b) of the airport past the hire car stands. was approached by a guy with a taxi sign he was holding and replied yes to wanting a cab. i explained where i wanted to go and since we had 5 minutes to get there i didn't discuss money. he insisted we couldn't make it and we should go to higuey which he claimed was the next stop for the bavaro espress bus. we agree on $30, when we arrive i realise he's only taken me to bavaro which is the first stop where i wanted to go anyway and i'd catch a bus from there to higuey instead to catch another there to santo dom. i was pissed and shouted at him in front of everyone outside the bus terminal. i said i wasn't paying him $20 ofcourse we argued and he walked away, and i though well that's easy. he comes running back as i hop on the bus i chuck $20 at him and he leaves in a huff saying now you're going to pay me $30. the bus leaves slowly and unbeknownst to me is a police station literally hidden away to the side of this terminal, i peek and see the guy shouting at the cops to come grab me. policeman enters grabs me by the arm and leads me towards the police station after my bags were taken off the bus.

we then spent maybe an hour and a half at the station separately for the most part, with it ending with us both giving our accounts to a woman dressed normally (no uniform). she spoke decent english and after i explained it to her well, she called out the taxi man and said to him that he lied and i technically should decide what i want to pay him as he didn't take me where i wanted to go. i then said i'll have 10 bucks back from you then cause he wasted a lot of my time. i have maybe 40 bucks left in cash at this point to get to santo domingo, i do some quick math and give the lady 20 bucks cash in front of the guy and said "mira. espero que te gusta eso".

after all that nonsense i caught the two buses first was 120 pesos, the second 275 and the caught a cab to the hostial ziazor which is where i am now. the chica i was meant to meet said she wasn't coming as it was raining heavily (is this a dominican thing i don't know about, avoid travel when it rains? she says she'll come manana temprano (will post pics of her assets asap).

lastly since i got here around 10 or so, nowhere would exchange british pounds to pesos, not this hotel or the juagar casino which means i'm stuck in my room tonight.

[quote=ilikebigbutts3;1593472]flight- thomsom flight 50, the 787 dreamliner was nice, especially if you're into planes and stuff which i am. flight was due to leave at 10:30 instead left at 12 pm.

bus connection- was due to catch a bus to santo domingo from punta cana, but i missed it, and so followed some more unfortunate incidents.

taxi driver, i finally went through the last area (exit b) of the airport past the hire car stands. was approached by a guy with a taxi sign he was holding and replied yes to wanting a cab. i explained where i wanted to go and since we had 5 minutes to get there i didn't discuss money. he insisted we couldn't make it and we should go to higuey which he claimed was the next stop for the bavaro espress bus. we agree on $30, when we arrive i realise he's only taken me to bavaro which is the first stop where i wanted to go anyway and i'd catch a bus from there to higuey instead to catch another there to santo dom. i was pissed and shouted at him in front of everyone outside the bus terminal. i said i wasn't paying him $20 ofcourse we argued and he walked away, and i though well that's easy. he comes running back as i hop on the bus i chuck $20 at him and he leaves in a huff saying now you're going to pay me $30. the bus leaves slowly and unbeknownst to me is a police station literally hidden away to the side of this terminal, i peek and see the guy shouting at the cops to come grab me. policeman enters grabs me by the arm and leads me towards the police station after my bags were taken off the bus.

we then spent maybe an hour and a half at the station separately for the most part, with it ending with us both giving our accounts to a woman dressed normally (no uniform). she spoke decent english and after i explained it to her well, she called out the taxi man and said to him that he lied and i technically should decide what i want to pay him as he didn't take me where i wanted to go. i then said i'll have 10 bucks back from you then cause he wasted a lot of my time. i have maybe 40 bucks left in cash at this point to get to santo domingo, i do some quick math and give the lady 20 bucks cash in front of the guy and said "mira. espero que te gusta eso".

after all that nonsense i caught the two buses first was 120 pesos, the second 275 and the caught a cab to the hostial ziazor which is where i am now. the chica i was meant to meet said she wasn't coming as it was raining heavily (is this a dominican thing i don't know about, avoid travel when it rains? she says she'll come manana temprano (will post pics of her assets asap).

lastly since i got here around 10 or so, nowhere would exchange british pounds to pesos, not this hotel or the juagar casino which means i'm stuck in my room tonight.[/quote]as soon as you stepped off the plane you were already in police custody lol. not a good way to start your trip. you do not want to deal with the police at all. try to avoid situtations like this cause it will ruin your trip. sometimes it is best to let the extra $10-$20 go so you don't end up in a situtation where the police or worse can get involved. other than that have a good time!

[quote=ilikebigbutts3;1593472]he insisted we couldn't make it and we should go to higuey which he claimed was the next stop for the bavaro espress bus. we agree on $30, when we arrive i realise he's only taken me to bavaro which is the first stop where i wanted to go anyway and i'd catch a bus from there to higuey instead to catch another there to santo dom. i was pissed and shouted at him in front of everyone outside the bus terminal. i said i wasn't paying him $20 ofcourse we argued and he walked away, and i though well that's easy. he comes running back as i hop on the bus i chuck $20 at him and he leaves in a huff saying now you're going to pay me $30. the bus leaves slowly and unbeknownst to me is a police station literally hidden away to the side of this terminal, i peek and see the guy shouting at the cops to come grab me. policeman enters grabs me by the arm and leads me towards the police station after my bags were taken off the bus.

we then spent maybe an hour and a half at the station separately for the most part, with it ending with us both giving our accounts to a woman dressed normally (no uniform). she spoke decent english and after i explained it to her well, she called out the taxi man and said to him that he lied and i technically should decide what i want to pay him as he didn't take me where i wanted to go. i then said i'll have 10 bucks back from you then cause he wasted a lot of my time. i have maybe 40 bucks left in cash at this point to get to santo domingo, i do some quick math and give the lady 20 bucks cash in front of the guy and said "mira. espero que te gusta eso".[/quote]so if his plane would have dropped him off half way to dr for the same price would that have been okay too? i for one am happy that he didn't punk out and just allow himself to be ripped off. as he showed in the end, he had the money so that was not the issue. of course if he spent his entire trip making a habit of passing out money to everyone who tries to rip him off then money could very well become an issue and then his trip will be ruined. and one more story involving cops who treat foreigners fairly and are not out for a payoff.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1593842]So if his plane would have dropped him off half way to DR for the same price would that have been okay too? I for one am happy that he didn't punk out and just allow himself to be ripped off. As he showed in the end, he had the money so that was not the issue. Of course if he spent his entire trip making a habit of passing out money to everyone who tries to rip him off then money could very well become an issue and then his trip will be ruined. And one more story involving cops who treat foreigners fairly and are not out for a payoff.[/QUOTE]In fairness I did speak to a number of officers prior to that lady, whom initially all sided with the taxi driver which made me frustrated. I waited patiently, until I finally gestured and said arrest me or I'm going which prompted them to take me to the lady's office. Anyway it's all good really, here are some pics of the chica from bani:

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1593842]So if his plane would have dropped him off half way to DR for the same price would that have been okay too? I for one am happy that he didn't punk out and just allow himself to be ripped off. As he showed in the end, he had the money so that was not the issue. Of course if he spent his entire trip making a habit of passing out money to everyone who tries to rip him off then money could very well become an issue and then his trip will be ruined. And one more story involving cops who treat foreigners fairly and are not out for a payoff.[/QUOTE]Just another bunch of crap scams from the taxis down there. I have been very vocal on these boards about the taxis down there and there BS. As the last poster said it really can ruin a trip. I have tried it both ways, Arguing my point to the extent where the police come and I have also just given in and paid the scam price. There is no right answer. If you fight it out you waste time and energy. If you just pay it you are showing these rip off artists that they are right and they will continue to pull there scams on the next victim. Although not always feasable it is best to call a cab in advance use a service get the car number and color and price before getting in. However in this situation the guys plane was late he was trying to make a bus and had 5 minutes so calling and waiting is not always possible and this piece of shit taxi driver realized that and tried to take advantage of a tourist who doesn't really speak the language, was a first time visitor in a foreign land and was in a situation where he was desperate to get to where he had to get to.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1594050]In fairness I did speak to a number of officers prior to that lady, whom initially all sided with the taxi driver which made me frustrated. I waited patiently, until I finally gestured and said arrest me or I'm going which prompted them to take me to the lady's office. Anyway it's all good really, here are some pics of the chica from bani:[/QUOTE]Nice pics, have fun. Is Riazor good? I haven't been there for about 3 years. I plan to thay there next Saturday.

Here we go again, it's almost a kind of stubbornness. Just in case it might help, I will repeat. Please agree on a fare and a destination in advance (in advance means before getting into the taxi and most important, before the driver begins moving the car). If you are not comfortable with your Spanish, have someone write your destination on a piece of paper and ask the driver to write down the fare on that piece of paper. That will go a long way toward preventing mischief and if you are unlucky enough to get involved with the police, that piece of paper can be helpful. Have fun!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1593842]So if his plane would have dropped him off half way to DR for the same price would that have been okay too? I for one am happy that he didn't punk out and just allow himself to be ripped off. As he showed in the end, he had the money so that was not the issue. Of course if he spent his entire trip making a habit of passing out money to everyone who tries to rip him off then money could very well become an issue and then his trip will be ruined. And one more story involving cops who treat foreigners fairly and are not out for a payoff.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1594169]Here we go again, it's almost a kind of stubbornness. Just in case it might help, I will repeat. Please agree on a fare and a destination in advance (in advance means before getting into the taxi and most important, before the driver begins moving the car). If you are not comfortable with your Spanish, have someone write your destination on a piece of paper and ask the driver to write down the fare on that piece of paper. That will go a long way toward preventing mischief and if you are unlucky enough to get involved with the police, that piece of paper can be helpful. Have fun![/QUOTE]At the end of the day you might agree on a price and destination prior to entering the cab, but they have tons of tricks up their sleeves, like earlier tonight a taxi driver needed to call a chica as was travelling to her house and he was lost in the barrio of guaricano north of SD, he was still lost and needed a motoconcho to physically show him the way, he wanted an extra 150 pesos for the phone top up and motoconcho. Not my problem mate but if had he called the police it'd be me against him and about 30 other young men with nothing to do but get involved. To conclude there are good eggs and bad ones, agreeing on something verbally here is about as effective as insect repellent (or at least the one I have).

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1594135]Nice pics, have fun. Is Riazor good? I haven't been there for about 3 years. I plan to thay there next Saturday.[/QUOTE]Riazor has pretty good internet, mattresses are hard and beds are weak. Might try the one round the corner (hostal something asis) I think it is, will ask tomorrow if they have safes first though. I was told price was $60, has gone up to $65 with breakfast included or $60 without and paying in pesos seems cheaper than in $.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1594244]Riazor has pretty good internet, mattresses are hard and beds are weak. Might try the one round the corner (hostal something asis) I think it is, will ask tomorrow if they have safes first though. I was told price was $60, has gone up to $65 with breakfast included or $60 without and paying in pesos seems cheaper than in $.[/QUOTE]ILBB holla at me when you get free time.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1594135]Nice pics, have fun. Is Riazor good? I haven't been there for about 3 years. I plan to thay there next Saturday.[/QUOTE]Raizor is a good hotel but the beds are hard and they don't allow 2 chicas in the room at a time. Napalotino seems to be ok too. But whatever you do, do not go to Roma 2. There were too many fags there when I stayed there.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1594514]ILBB holla at me when you get free time.[/QUOTE]A long shot but I'm headed to baladi restaurant in maybe a half hour or so:

Baladi Restaurant.

Calle Virginia de Pena #5, Ensanche Naco, Santo Domingo 10124 , Dominican Republic.

I'll be on my own, come say Hi. Need to unlock my cell or would pm you my claro number.

That's a very good authentic Lebanese restaurant. It's not so easy to find the first time but it's worth it.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1594619]A long shot but I'm headed to baladi restaurant in maybe a half hour or so:

Baladi Restaurant.

Calle Virginia de Pena #5, Ensanche Naco, Santo Domingo 10124 , Dominican Republic.

I'll be on my own, come say Hi. Need to unlock my cell or would pm you my claro number.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1594244]Riazor has pretty good internet, mattresses are hard and beds are weak. Might try the one round the corner (hostal something asis) I think it is, will ask tomorrow if they have safes first though. I was told price was $60, has gone up to $65 with breakfast included or $60 without and paying in pesos seems cheaper than in $.[/QUOTE]Hostal San Francisco de Asis has electronic safes, rooms are from $40 and are smaller than Riazor.

[QUOTE=ChiefJustice;1594568]Raizor is a good hotel but the beds are hard and they don't allow 2 chicas in the room at a time. Napalotino seems to be ok too. But whatever you do, do not go to Roma 2. There were too many fags there when I stayed there.[/QUOTE]Why you go to roma?? Everyone knows that's a gay hotel LOL.

[QUOTE=Grandnash84;1594678]Why you go to roma?? Everyone knows that's a gay hotel LOL.[/QUOTE]Some fairy from San Francisco recommended this place. Hes a regular.

[QUOTE=Grandnash84;1594678]Why you go to roma?? Everyone knows that's a gay hotel LOL.[/QUOTE]I did not know until know, the place has been recommended several times on this forum I was even considering it. Fiesta fiesta pluma pluma gay! LOL.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1594663]Hostal San Francisco de Asis has electronic safes, rooms are from $40 and are smaller than Riazor.[/QUOTE]Went there yesterday to ask and was told no free rooms till the 20th, yet I just booked a room for today on [URL]booking.com[/URL] so moving today. Baladi was closed when I finally found it, and it was definitely hard to find. Ended up at a restaurant called vizoni or something like that, very cheap, good and most importantly clean. Met another DC chica last night, met her at agora mall and she had a one piece outfit type thing on, wish I'd taken pics.

[QUOTE=Grandnash84;1594678]Why you go to roma?? Everyone knows that's a gay hotel LOL.[/QUOTE]I like Roma. And whenever I am there I never see anyone else. Once I saw a guy-girl couple. I'm too busy doing my own thing to worry about what other adults are doing behind closed doors.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1594956]I like Roma. And whenever I am there I never see anyone else. Once I saw a guy-girl couple. I'm too busy doing my own thing to worry about what other adults are doing behind closed doors.[/QUOTE]I don't know if it was a 'gay connection' thing going on, but when I was there I saw at least 10 gays. When I first checked in I spotted about 8 African Americans but non of them had chicas. Then later a taxi driver told me they had broken wrist.

[QUOTE=ChiefJustice;1594682]Some fairy from San Francisco recommended this place. Hes a regular.[/QUOTE]Lmaoo. You got set up.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1594169]Here we go again, it's almost a kind of stubbornness. Just in case it might help, I will repeat. Please agree on a fare and a destination in advance (in advance means before getting into the taxi and most important, before the driver begins moving the car). If you are not comfortable with your Spanish, have someone write your destination on a piece of paper and ask the driver to write down the fare on that piece of paper. That will go a long way toward preventing mischief and if you are unlucky enough to get involved with the police, that piece of paper can be helpful. Have fun![/QUOTE]Again, Good advice but not always feasible. The guy did ask the price and nailed down the destination before getting in. The cabbie scammed him by taking him to the wrong place and demanding more money at the destination. How can this be avoided? Also, your idea of writing it down is nice but, who including the cab driver is going to sit in the middle of the road or in line at the airport for 5-10 minutes and work out a written contract before a simple cab ride. Your advice is good but, not that easy.

so i happened to get a few days off from work and decided to book a last minute ticket to the dr. going to be in santo domingo for a couple of days starting today and i'll probably stick around santo domingo for a couple of days.

i've lived in colombia and been through a fair amount of latin america. i've been to sosua and the northern coast a couple of times too, but this will be my first time in sd. my spanish isn't great but more then enough to get by.

just looking to see if anyone would like to meet up or anything. could be p4 p for just normal stuff.

i plan on going through this thread for some information about hotels and such, but if anyone has any quick recommendations where to stay, i'd be very grateful. i've stayed in some real shit holes in my travels. i don't mind staying hotels that aren't high end.

i'll be happy to buy the first round. just looking for some good times and some cool peeps.

my plane leaves in 5 hours!

Finally someone who understands the Dominican Republic the way I do, instead of going around paying every woman he meets. There are so many regular chicks fucking that who has time for hookers (or semi-prostitutes as some like to label their P4P girls.) I remember my first time going on Latin American Cupid thinking if I knew Spanish I would be hell. Well I learned Spanish and have been hell ever since. ILBB, I would swear I was reading my own reports from seeing your methodology. Same two sentences on Cupid, refusing to be ripped off, and not giving a woman money if she is not a hooker.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1595182]I believe it's worth it if you're seeking GFE and especially so in santo Domingo and probably Santiago. I've been in DR now for 5 days and only paid for a chica once, the others were all from Dominican Cupid. Pay the 1000 pesos to be a platinum member fill the details in but don't say you're just visiting on holiday, say that you work there or are about to. Don't mention money to the chica at all, only when discussing her transport to meet you perhaps. I have posted pictures, and I'd encourage you to do the same and obviously use ones that highlight your best features. Simple stuff really.

I avoid using Facebook, but if it works for you then so be it. You have pictures and details of yourself already on there. On Dominican Cupid my template for sending messages was " Holla como estas? Dame su numero para agregarte por whatsapp" And 9 times out of ten I'd get their number straight away. Use itranslate on your iPhone to help you out if your Spanish isn't great like mine.

More details on the chica? Her name's Branny, 21 has probably the best tits of any chic I've seen in real life, slept with her yesterday once, twice today and all I have her was 400 pesos for transport. 1st set of pics are of the pics I posted before though these two don't do her tits justice.

2nd set are of Yara 24 rich Dominican chica, drives me around in her bmw after we shag, I offer to pay for stuff and she says no.

3rd are of Linda from Santiago, just turned 19, doesn't work just works out at the gym everyday, cost was 500 pesos after I offered to pay for transport.

Have fun on Dominican cupid.[/QUOTE]

I am flying into SDQ for the first time in at least five years, I am heading to Sosua by bus from there. I saved over $300. By flying into SDQ vs. Flying into POP. A couple of questions. If memory serves I am going to get gringo taxed at the airport for $30. To take a taxi to the Caribe Tours terminal, any easy way to avoid it without walking too far away from the airport, I am traveling with a guy with limited mobility, he can walk about 100 yards maximum. My flight arrives at 3 pm I know I won't have time to catch the 4 p. M bus to Sosua but I certainly want to catch the 5 p. M bus and also change some dollars at the terminal and would like to get a sim card for my phone. What are the odds of me doing that, is there an Orange store at the airport or terminal and are they usually busy? And is Orange my best option for a data / voice plan for a unlocked smartphone. Where in Sosua does the Caribe Tours bus stop in Sosua?

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1595470]I am flying into SDQ for the first time in at least five years, I am heading to Sosua by bus from there. I saved over $300. By flying into SDQ vs. Flying into POP. A couple of questions. If memory serves I am going to get gringo taxed at the airport for $30. To take a taxi to the Caribe Tours terminal, any easy way to avoid it without walking too far away from the airport, I am traveling with a guy with limited mobility, he can walk about 100 yards maximum. My flight arrives at 3 pm I know I won't have time to catch the 4 p. M bus to Sosua but I certainly want to catch the 5 p. M bus and also change some dollars at the terminal and would like to get a sim card for my phone. What are the odds of me doing that, is there an Orange store at the airport or terminal and are they usually busy? And is Orange my best option for a data / voice plan for a unlocked smartphone. Where in Sosua does the Caribe Tours bus stop in Sosua?[/QUOTE]I do this trip three times a year for reasons you expressed. Yes, you can get a sim at the airport but if you know Dominicans, they will take their time about it.

The metro bus drops you at the gas station on the highway and it's a two minute walk to Sosua. You will miss the last metro bus at 4:30 pm. Carib tours leaves every hour on the hour for Sosua, plan on spending five hours on the bus and bring a jacket. Both busses cost 380 p. Carib tours let you out at Charmicos and it's 200 p to Sosua via taxi.

Yes, you will have to pay 30 USD to go from SDQ to the bus stations and the traffic is killer.

I would suggest you get a hotel in Boca or SD and leave fresh on the metro bus at 7 am. If you have someone who is not up for the rapid pace and not used to traveling cross county on a five hour bus, it can break them down. My advice would be to start fresh in the morning.

I've also noticed the 7 am bus is the easiest ride. The later bus you have kids coughing and everybody talking. I have a germ phobia sorry.

The airport has two Banks that give good rates of exchange and yes all the phone stores have branches in the airport. You can spend a night in SD or catch the evening bus. If you have a SD chica chill with her and get a early bus to Sosua. 30 bucks split between two people is not bad for taxi to SD. You are going to need a cab whe you get to Sosua. The bus stops about a mile from the strip. SD can be a blast if you have a lady to hang with and if it is a weekend. Weekdays are much less active in SD.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1595470]I am flying into SDQ for the first time in at least five years, I am heading to Sosua by bus from there. I saved over $300. By flying into SDQ vs. Flying into POP. A couple of questions. If memory serves I am going to get gringo taxed at the airport for $30. To take a taxi to the Caribe Tours terminal, any easy way to avoid it without walking too far away from the airport, I am traveling with a guy with limited mobility, he can walk about 100 yards maximum. My flight arrives at 3 pm I know I won't have time to catch the 4 p. M bus to Sosua but I certainly want to catch the 5 p. M bus and also change some dollars at the terminal and would like to get a sim card for my phone. What are the odds of me doing that, is there an Orange store at the airport or terminal and are they usually busy? And is Orange my best option for a data / voice plan for a unlocked smartphone. Where in Sosua does the Caribe Tours bus stop in Sosua?[/QUOTE]

I was not referring to a contract when I mentioned writing down the destination, only the destination (I. E. "Guaricanos de Villa Mella" I agree if the passenger has no better idea of where he is going than the taxi driver, then it will likely end up as a problem for the passenger. GPS can eliminate that problem. There is mucho information on here about GPS in the DR and how it works etc. If that is too complicated there is google maps. I won't insist. Anyone who believes the problem is unavoidable will not avoid it. Good luck and have fun.

[QUOTE=Mfins;1595164]Again, Good advice but not always feasible. The guy did ask the price and nailed down the destination before getting in. The cabbie scammed him by taking him to the wrong place and demanding more money at the destination. How can this be avoided? Also, your idea of writing it down is nice but, who including the cab driver is going to sit in the middle of the road or in line at the airport for 5-10 minutes and work out a written contract before a simple cab ride. Your advice is good but, not that easy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1595470]I am flying into SDQ for the first time in at least five years[/QUOTE]Piggybacking on Manizales', I have a further question. I have never been to SDQ airport. I would like to know (if anyone knows that is), how far is the Santo Domingo airport guagua stop from the terminal / s. I see on the map that the stop is (buses come from Boca chica or Higuey) where the highway is and from there it looks like a fairly long distance to the terminal. Question is: Is it possible to walk to the guagua stop. I have walked from the terminal to the main thoroughfare at POP the first time but it was a fairly short walk. Along with Frannie. I do not carry much luggage so I would like to try it at SDQ. I would also look into the other story I have heard. A bus or something that brings the airport workers.

So I hired a car today and got my phone unblocked at plaza central. The guy wanted 4000 then 1800, then settled on 1300. I gave him 1400 and he did the cheeky "Oh I don't have change" routine. I just reached into his front pocket and got my money and said he wouldn't get it back till I got 100 back, cause a tiny scene but no biggie.

In the evening I saw another DC chica and took her to a cabana near expressway las americas was the $250 for 2 hours, don't mind if I do. Unfortunately can't remember the name. Her nickname's belizima, nearly 19 and just check out her ass. Thank you platanos. I picked her up and drove her back but still offered 500 pesos as a gift but won't be seeing her again (face wasn't all that).

Later I headed home, and headed back out, I looked at the SD mongering map and mapped out where the street action was and headed towards autopista 30 de mayo from George Washington. I had my windows down as I was smoking, saw a cop car pull beside me, I kept looking straight but they still pulled me over, the sat nav must have tipped them off (that I'm a foreigner). They claimed I ran a red light, and that I'd have to go to the police station now to file the offence and then pay the fine tomorrow, where? Who knows.

As we drove down I remembered a post from one of the DR threads about a guy who was stopped, and when asked by the police to go to the station said yes and was then told to forget about it. I at first just tried to see if this was total bullshit (I really don't recall running a red light but wasn't certain). So I tried the waters, and I claim to only have a couple thousand pesos on me. So I say I'm from england and have Sterling, the one policeman sat beside me then asks the exchange rate (the f*ing cheek on this guy). He asks me to pull over, the policeman in the car behind us come to the passenger's window and they discuss what they can get out of me. The second policeman then says 2000 no bueno, so I say I've tried best I can let's go to the station. We head towards the "station" and he asks me to pull me over again. He asks for the 2000 pesos which I give him, I then ask for his number which he gives me (fake ofcourse) but I also ask to take a picture of his name badge and weirdly he lets me. I say bye and I make a you turn. They then catch up to me again with the siren and lights on. I stop and the guy who wasn't sat next to me isn't happy I've taken a picture of the other guy and wants me to delete it. I explain that I asked first and his face isn't in the picture just his badge. They're now both unhappy so I delete it and he then gives me the 2000 pesos back. I'm pretty chuffed at this point and carry on searching for chicas along 30 de mayo.

I pick up two women 1000 pesos each with anal sex included, get to hotel san francisco and one doesn't have a cedula. The kind man at reception hesistates for a while but then lets them through and tells me to be careful. We get into the room, they both rummage through the the room's mini-fridge and have a feast. They then want the money upfront, I say no, then they say ok just leave the money in the table, I say no again. At this point I tell them to leave, and they do not want to, I repeat it enough times that they do. They have a chat with the guy at reception, one is locked out of the main door while the other chats to the man on reception. I offer 500 for both she accepts and leaves, he friend enters and wants money too. The security guards tells me to head upstairs after a 10 minute back and forth, I then note flashing cop lights from the balcony as I have a smoke. I head downstairs after a little while, and reception guy tells me that the owner here is a known lawyer and that the policemen who came knew this, and that the security guard is also a policeman who had to fight them off verbally outside, and they were not let into the hotel.

I offer both the guy at reception and the security guard 500 each. I think if you want to come to this country you either have to speak good spanish, have usual contacts or not be phased with getting ripped off here and there. Not to put anyone off, it's great being here but I feel I must put what happened to me today. The issue with the two chicas was my fault I realise, but didn't know she didn't have one till she was here. I really didn't want to session with the one that had a cedula only as the other was more attractive and at 4 am didn't want to go to a cabana.

It's now nearly 6 am and after this troublesome day, I'm still horny.

Dammit man. I wish I was down there with you. You are doing everything to the T. You just will not roll over and be punked or scammed as some will lead you that you must do in order to avoid trouble. You are a great example for all the people who scare easily.

In the report, I wrote that I told the cops to give me the ticket and I will take it to the embassy the next day. And it was the same scam. Two national police guys on a motorcycle saying I went through a red light. I definitely would not admit to having ANY money. As soon as I see they are pulling me over then I hide it all.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1595650]Piggybacking on Manizales', I have a further question. I have never been to SDQ airport. I would like to know (if anyone knows that is), how far is the Santo Domingo airport guagua stop from the terminal / s. I see on the map that the stop is (buses come from Boca chica or Higuey) where the highway is and from there it looks like a fairly long distance to the terminal. Question is: Is it possible to walk to the guagua stop. I have walked from the terminal to the main thoroughfare at POP the first time but it was a fairly short walk. Along with Frannie. I do not carry much luggage so I would like to try it at SDQ. I would also look into the other story I have heard. A bus or something that brings the airport workers.[/QUOTE]I think it is possible to walk to the guagua stop although I am not sure of the exact distance as the airport is on a kind of mini peninsula (possibly reclaimed land). On the map it looks like about a mile from the terminal to the highway. The trouble is that it can be very hot and dusty in that area. Outside the airport you can get a motoconcho that could take you to a parada de guaguas.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1595823]I think it is possible to walk to the guagua stop although I am not sure of the exact distance as the airport is on a kind of mini peninsula (possibly reclaimed land). On the map it looks like about a mile from the terminal to the highway. The trouble is that it can be very hot and dusty in that area. Outside the airport you can get a motoconcho that could take you to a parada de guaguas.[/QUOTE]Nope. The only way to get into the city on the cheap, being you don't have luggage, is to catch a motoconcho to Boca Chica then wait in front of the fish stand or the park for the gua gua to the city. You can walk two minutes (400 yards) from the airport to the highway to hail a motoconcho. The gua gua does not come to the airport.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1595759]Dammit man. I wish I was down there with you. You are doing everything to the T. You just will not roll over and be punked or scammed as some will lead you that you must do in order to avoid trouble. You are a great example for all the people who scare easily.

In the report, I wrote that I told the cops to give me the ticket and I will take it to the embassy the next day. And it was the same scam. Two national police guys on a motorcycle saying I went through a red light. I definitely would not admit to having ANY money. As soon as I see they are pulling me over then I hide it all.[/QUOTE]Agree. That was a great story ILBB3. Both your stories make me wary of SD though. And I was thinking of heading down there for the Merengue festival.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1595823]I think it is possible to walk to the guagua stop although I am not sure of the exact distance as the airport is on a kind of mini peninsula (possibly reclaimed land). On the map it looks like about a mile from the terminal to the highway. The trouble is that it can be very hot and dusty in that area. Outside the airport you can get a motoconcho that could take you to a parada de guaguas.[/QUOTE]Ah. That makes sense. That the airport was built on reclaimed land. The motoconcho is a good suggestion. And another member here suggested that to me in a PM. I get to SDQ at 1 PM and so I feel comfortable trying out other options. The most intriguing part is of course finding out how the airport workers get to work which has to be a cheap and viable option. I found it out in Santiago and it was a fun adventure, works like a charm each time I need it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1595759]Dammit man. I wish I was down there with you. You are doing everything to the T. You just will not roll over and be punked or scammed as some will lead you that you must do in order to avoid trouble. You are a great example for all the people who scare easily.

In the report, I wrote that I told the cops to give me the ticket and I will take it to the embassy the next day. And it was the same scam. Two national police guys on a motorcycle saying I went through a red light. I definitely would not admit to having ANY money. As soon as I see they are pulling me over then I hide it all.[/QUOTE]Before I leave the house 300 pesos in my pocket the rest in my shoes! I go to the bathroom to switch up if I'm eating dinner or at a club. Sometimes I will have nothing. I will give my novia a 7 hundred to a thousand pesos. Its for us tonight at the disco she pay / I pay.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1595726]The issue with the two chicas was my fault I realise, [/QUOTE]Ya Habibi! You have balls as it appears to me. Many on their maiden trip (and some even on there nth) have complaints about cops, chicas and the whole enchilada. Of course, for a first timer from the ghetto without any language, it can be scary to see how the world moves. Managing cops the way you did was interesting and owning up to the issue of the to-rent chicas was very disarmingly good. May you have more fun in funland.

Does anyone know of a nice motel between the Intl airport in Sto Domingo and the city?

Thanks.

Cabanas, use the San Vicente or San Isidro cabanas, avoid the Los Frailes one, it is not at all for sleeping. You are better off getting a room in Boca Chica, cheaper and more comfortable.

[QUOTE=Forest;1595918]Does anyone know of a nice motel between the Intl airport in Sto Domingo and the city?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

May be I am a wet blanket. Having two run ins with police is not a good thing. Ya you got away from the red light scam but you paid 2000 pesos and got it back. Let say the cops felt threaten AND WANTED TO put LITTLE MORE pressure on you. Next the run in with the putas could have got real ugly. These girls carry knives and razors. Many guys have had a puta trash his room when problems happen. You had two angry women could got real ugly. I am glad it worked out for you but it could have been very different on both counts. I keep my fun low risk. I do not drive in the SD and only do 3 somes when I know at least one of the girls well. The best way not to be scammed is to keep things simple and like you be lucky. I do not think it is ever a good idea to have confrontations with police.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1595856]Agree. That was a great story ILBB3. Both your stories make me wary of SD though. And I was thinking of heading down there for the Merengue festival.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1595829]Nope. The only way to get into the city on the cheap, being you don't have luggage, is to catch a motoconcho to Boca Chica then wait in front of the fish stand or the park for the gua gua to the city. You can walk two minutes (400 yards) from the airport to the highway to hail a motoconcho. The gua gua does not come to the airport.[/QUOTE]Yes, you may be able to walk two minute to the Avenida Entrada del Aeropuerto, but it is much further to the Avenida de las Americas. The maps suggest that the distance from the terminal to the main highway (not the airport access road) is about equal to the length of the runway and that is about what I remember. Of course you can probably get a motoconcho on the access road, so perhaps that is what you mean.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1596067]Yes, you may be able to walk two minute to the Avenida Entrada del Aeropuerto, but it is much further to the Avenida de las Americas. The maps suggest that the distance from the terminal to the main highway (not the airport access road) is about equal to the length of the runway and that is about what I remember. Of course you can probably get a motoconcho on the access road, so perhaps that is what you mean.[/QUOTE]That is what I mean. I also mean you can not catch a Gua Gua once you get to the main highway. I'm sure if you were a pretty Dominicana or a friend of the driver, an exception could be made. But a gringo standing on the highway holding up 50 p will probably be bypassed.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1596067]Yes, you may be able to walk two minute to the Avenida Entrada del Aeropuerto, but it is much further to the Avenida de las Americas. The maps suggest that the distance from the terminal to the main highway (not the airport access road) is about equal to the length of the runway and that is about what I remember. Of course you can probably get a motoconcho on the access road, so perhaps that is what you mean.[/QUOTE]One of the things I am never going to do in Dominican Republic is to take a motoconcho. To save a few dollars to take the method of transportation that give the Dominican Republic the highest per capita transportation death rate of the World is not for me. I always read the reports of incidents on Christmas or any holiday and most deaths and accidents are related to moto accidents. Maybe I am exagerating but safety in a foreign country is a major concern to me.

The other thing I am never going to do in Dominican Republic is not to drink beer.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1596055]May be I am a wet blanket. Having two run ins with police is not a good thing. Ya you got away from the red light scam but you paid 2000 pesos and got it back. Let say the cops felt threaten AND WANTED TO put LITTLE MORE pressure on you. Next the run in with the putas could have got real ugly. These girls carry knives and razors. Many guys have had a puta trash his room when problems happen. You had two angry women could got real ugly. I am glad it worked out for you but it could have been very different on both counts. I keep my fun low risk. I do not drive in the SD and only do 3 somes when I know at least one of the girls well. The best way not to be scammed is to keep things simple and like you be lucky. I do not think it is ever a good idea to have confrontations with police.[/QUOTE]He has been very lucky, we all have read horror stories on similar situations. The incident inside the hotel can affect the guest policy to a more restrictive one, from multiple to single guest friendly, for example.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1595873]And another member here suggested that to me in a PM. I get to SDQ at 1 PM and so I feel comfortable trying out other options. The most intriguing part is of course finding out how the airport workers get to work which has to be a cheap and viable option. I found it out in Santiago and it was a fun adventure, works like a charm each time I need it.[/QUOTE]All the people who work in Las Americas get there through private shuttles that are arranged by their companies. It either picks them up at home or from various stops throughout the city, depending on what time they work.

You are not a wet blanket, you are a voice of reason. I hope people pay attention to what you said because it is spot on. Boricua is right about this too. Putting ourselves in the sort of situations described by the original poster is very unwise because eventually the luck will run out. You can only fuck one girl at a time so bringing more than one to your room means you will pay more for the second one to be distracting you and getting into mischief - - stealing anything that is not nailed down. It's a classic signal that there is about to be easy pickings. Giving money to the police in the street or anywhere else is unnecessary and can be dangerous. They will rob you if they get the chance and they will kill you if they think they are in trouble and need to get out of it. avoid the police as much as possible. I know they pull over anybody who looks like they have money or is a foreigner (same thing for them) whenever they think they can get away with it. They will use any excuse and the technique is to annoy you, scare you, and delay you so handing over money seems like the easy way out. I make it clear I will not pay and I am willing to wait the rest of my life and I am not afraid and I will go to the police station. They always go away. Sometimes they will save face by saying "you seem like a good man" or "you are a friend of the police" but they always go away. So, original poster, I hope you change what you are doing because it will end badly for you if you don't.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1596055]May be I am a wet blanket. Having two run ins with police is not a good thing. Ya you got away from the red light scam but you paid 2000 pesos and got it back. Let say the cops felt threaten AND WANTED TO put LITTLE MORE pressure on you. Next the run in with the putas could have got real ugly. These girls carry knives and razors. Many guys have had a puta trash his room when problems happen. You had two angry women could got real ugly. I am glad it worked out for you but it could have been very different on both counts. I keep my fun low risk. I do not drive in the SD and only do 3 somes when I know at least one of the girls well. The best way not to be scammed is to keep things simple and like you be lucky. I do not think it is ever a good idea to have confrontations with police.[/QUOTE]

No motoconcho is excellent advice.

Not drink beer, you a funny motherfucker, always funny Boricua.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1596205]One of the things I am never going to do in Dominican Republic is to take a motoconcho. To save a few dollars to take the method of transportation that give the Dominican Republic the highest per capita transportation death rate of the World is not for me. I always read the reports of incidents on Christmas or any holiday and most deaths and accidents are related to moto accidents. Maybe I am exagerating but safety in a foreign country is a major concern to me.

The other thing I am never going to do in Dominican Republic is not to drink beer.[/QUOTE]

The best advice I can give is take a taxi if you don't want to rent a car. If you don't have enough money for a taxi or a rental car, stay home and save your money until you have enough, then come.

Why? Because 1) it is too far to walk with or without luggage 2) you could get robbed waiting for a bus or by a motoconcho who picks you up (they know you are foreign and have money leaving the airport) 3) you will lose a lot of time waiting and transferring and waiting again.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1596067]Yes, you may be able to walk two minute to the Avenida Entrada del Aeropuerto, but it is much further to the Avenida de las Americas. The maps suggest that the distance from the terminal to the main highway (not the airport access road) is about equal to the length of the runway and that is about what I remember. Of course you can probably get a motoconcho on the access road, so perhaps that is what you mean.[/QUOTE]

I stand corrected. BQ Ribs rode the Gua Gua to Boca Chica today and gave me the details. There are two guaguas, the one with red letters and one with blue letters. They bring you to Parque Independecia from the main highway from the airport. BQ said you can flag it down.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1596367]I stand corrected. BQ Ribs rode the Gua Gua to Boca Chica today and gave me the details. There are two guaguas, the one with red letters and one with blue letters. They bring you to Parque Independecia from the main highway from the airport. BQ said you can flag it down.[/QUOTE]Where is BQ? He should be posting here. Sorry, I forgot, he spend all his time delivering ham and cheese sandwiches and balloons to street girls.

What about the bus you can reserve online that cost about 18 $, does it still exist. ? Something like a to b buses or transfers.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1595726]So I hired a car today and got my phone unblocked at plaza central. The guy wanted 4000 then 1800, then settled on 1300. I gave him 1400 and he did the cheeky "Oh I don't have change" routine. I just reached into his front pocket and got my money and said he wouldn't get it back till I got 100 back, cause a tiny scene but no biggie.

In the evening I saw another DC chica and took her to a cabana near expressway las americas was the $250 for 2 hours, don't mind if I do. Unfortunately can't remember the name. Her nickname's belizima, nearly 19 and just check out her ass. Thank you platanos. I picked her up and drove her back but still offered 500 pesos as a gift but won't be seeing her again (face wasn't all that).

Later I headed home, and headed back out, I looked at the SD mongering map and mapped out where the street action was and headed towards autopista 30 de mayo from George Washington. I had my windows down as I was smoking, saw a cop car pull beside me, I kept looking straight but they still pulled me over, the sat nav must have tipped them off (that I'm a foreigner). They claimed I ran a red light, and that I'd have to go to the police station now to file the offence and then pay the fine tomorrow, where? Who knows.

As we drove down I remembered a post from one of the DR threads about a guy who was stopped, and when asked by the police to go to the station said yes and was then told to forget about it. I at first just tried to see if this was total bullshit (I really don't recall running a red light but wasn't certain). So I tried the waters, and I claim to only have a couple thousand pesos on me. So I say I'm from england and have Sterling, the one policeman sat beside me then asks the exchange rate (the f*ing cheek on this guy). He asks me to pull over, the policeman in the car behind us come to the passenger's window and they discuss what they can get out of me. The second policeman then says 2000 no bueno, so I say I've tried best I can let's go to the station. We head towards the "station" and he asks me to pull me over again. He asks for the 2000 pesos which I give him, I then ask for his number which he gives me (fake ofcourse) but I also ask to take a picture of his name badge and weirdly he lets me. I say bye and I make a you turn. They then catch up to me again with the siren and lights on. I stop and the guy who wasn't sat next to me isn't happy I've taken a picture of the other guy and wants me to delete it. I explain that I asked first and his face isn't in the picture just his badge. They're now both unhappy so I delete it and he then gives me the 2000 pesos back. I'm pretty chuffed at this point and carry on searching for chicas along 30 de mayo.

I pick up two women 1000 pesos each with anal sex included, get to hotel san francisco and one doesn't have a cedula. The kind man at reception hesistates for a while but then lets them through and tells me to be careful. We get into the room, they both rummage through the the room's mini-fridge and have a feast. They then want the money upfront, I say no, then they say ok just leave the money in the table, I say no again. At this point I tell them to leave, and they do not want to, I repeat it enough times that they do. They have a chat with the guy at reception, one is locked out of the main door while the other chats to the man on reception. I offer 500 for both she accepts and leaves, he friend enters and wants money too. The security guards tells me to head upstairs after a 10 minute back and forth, I then note flashing cop lights from the balcony as I have a smoke. I head downstairs after a little while, and reception guy tells me that the owner here is a known lawyer and that the policemen who came knew this, and that the security guard is also a policeman who had to fight them off verbally outside, and they were not let into the hotel.

I offer both the guy at reception and the security guard 500 each. I think if you want to come to this country you either have to speak good spanish, have usual contacts or not be phased with getting ripped off here and there. Not to put anyone off, it's great being here but I feel I must put what happened to me today. The issue with the two chicas was my fault I realise, but didn't know she didn't have one till she was here. I really didn't want to session with the one that had a cedula only as the other was more attractive and at 4 am didn't want to go to a cabana.

It's now nearly 6 am and after this troublesome day, I'm still horny.[/QUOTE]Was going to comment yesterday but held my tounge. Bro you are on vacation, seems like you like chilling wit cops more than the chicas. Don't know if your stories are true or false but don't listen to other members on the board telling you that you did the right thing and you stood up for yourself. No matter their post count and how many times they go to the dr, don't listen to them, they are just pumping you up to get arrested. No matter the situtation, you are not dominican, so you are fighting a up hill battle automatically. Seems to me like you wasted hours dealing with the police and arguing over maybe $10-20 at the most. Not worth it to me. I'd rather just pay and get the chica out of there. Been going to the dr for about 3 years and more than 12 trips later, I never had a chica try to rob or play me. Its all about how you present yourself. I'm not you, so I don't know how you think, but when I'm on vacation I do not like dealing with the police or any situtation which may endager my safety. If you don't care about your safety or welfare then keep doing what yur doing. But then it brings me to my first question, why even go on vacation in the first place if all you want to do is argue with chicas and hang out with cops?

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1595470]I am flying into SDQ for the first time in at least five years, I am heading to Sosua by bus from there. I saved over $300. By flying into SDQ vs. Flying into POP. A couple of questions. If memory serves I am going to get gringo taxed at the airport for $30. To take a taxi to the Caribe Tours terminal, any easy way to avoid it without walking too far away from the airport, I am traveling with a guy with limited mobility, he can walk about 100 yards maximum. My flight arrives at 3 pm I know I won't have time to catch the 4 p. M bus to Sosua but I certainly want to catch the 5 p. M bus and also change some dollars at the terminal and would like to get a sim card for my phone. What are the odds of me doing that, is there an Orange store at the airport or terminal and are they usually busy? And is Orange my best option for a data / voice plan for a unlocked smartphone. Where in Sosua does the Caribe Tours bus stop in Sosua?[/QUOTE]POP is the most convenient airport being only a 10 min cab ride to PC, but it's also an expensive airport to fly into. Flights are also limited to just daytime hours, so that can affect the amount of time one wants to spend in Sosua. Personally I find it more cost-effective to fly into Santiago and take a cab to Sosua, which usually runs around $80 - $100. Or you can take a bus which will be a lot cheaper. Or. What I have done on recent trips is fly into POP and go back home out of STI. It will usually mean purchasing a one-way ticket on American and then one way back with the others as Santiago has more flight options which I prefer. For a quick weekend I'll take the daytime flight on Friday from MIA to POP that gets in around 2 PM. I'm on the strip by 2:30 PM. And then head back home on Sunday by taking one of the late evening flights from STI and get back home Monday morning for work. While SDQ is a little further out, I find that from MIA it's convenient with the number of flight options. I just wish it wasn't a bit of a drive to Sosua.

I usually find Orange to be better than Claro having tried both, but I'm sure others may have different experiences.

[quote=boricuaonline;1596387]where is bq? he should be posting here. sorry, i forgot, he spend all his time delivering ham and cheese sandwiches and balloons to street girls.

what about the bus you can reserve online that cost about 18 $, does it still exist. ? something like a to b buses or transfers.[/quote]bq is living the life. he lives in gascue a block from the malecon. he says the only problem he has is that his asian neighbors are peeping toms when he is getting head from a dominicana on his balcony lmao.

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1596401]POP is the most convenient airport being only a 10 min cab ride to PC, but it's also an expensive airport to fly into. Flights are also limited to just daytime hours, so that can affect the amount of time one wants to spend in Sosua. Personally I find it more cost-effective to fly into Santiago and take a cab to Sosua, which usually runs around $80 - $100. Or you can take a bus which will be a lot cheaper. Or. What I have done on recent trips is fly into POP and go back home out of STI. It will usually mean purchasing a one-way ticket on American and then one way back with the others as Santiago has more flight options which I prefer. For a quick weekend I'll take the daytime flight on Friday from MIA to POP that gets in around 2 PM. I'm on the strip by 2:30 PM. And then head back home on Sunday by taking one of the late evening flights from STI and get back home Monday morning for work. While SDQ is a little further out, I find that from MIA it's convenient with the number of flight options. I just wish it wasn't a bit of a drive to Sosua.

I usually find Orange to be better than Claro having tried both, but I'm sure others may have different experiences.[/QUOTE]Actually the flights out of MIA were $650.into POP And the flights from MIA into SDQ were $320. That makes it a no brainer for me.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1596345]The best advice I can give is take a taxi if you don't want to rent a car. If you don't have enough money for a taxi or a rental car, stay home and save your money until you have enough, then come.[/QUOTE]Hahahaha, Seeing as I have a home in Colombia and a home in Connecticut and bounce between those two places and the DR constantly I seriously doubt I will be staying home, hahaha.

[QUOTE=Grandnash84;1596398]Was going to comment yesterday but held my tounge. Bro you are on vacation, seems like you like chilling wit cops more than the chicas. Don't know if your stories are true or false but don't listen to other members on the board telling you that you did the right thing and you stood up for yourself. No matter their post count and how many times they go to the dr, don't listen to them, they are just pumping you up to get arrested. No matter the situtation, you are not dominican, so you are fighting a up hill battle automatically. Seems to me like you wasted hours dealing with the police and arguing over maybe $10-20 at the most. Not worth it to me. I'd rather just pay and get the chica out of there. Been going to the dr for about 3 years and more than 12 trips later, I never had a chica try to rob or play me. Its all about how you present yourself. I'm not you, so I don't know how you think, but when I'm on vacation I do not like dealing with the police or any situtation which may endager my safety. If you don't care about your safety or welfare then keep doing what yur doing. But then it brings me to my first question, why even go on vacation in the first place if all you want to do is argue with chicas and hang out with cops?[/QUOTE]I'm glad you've shared your opinion with us. This is the first time I've ever had problems in the DR, the thing is I find, in Santo Domingo everyone wants something from you, I remember reading a post here about an immigration agent asking for money on written on a piece of paper which I was shocked to read but now I can totally see that happening. Last night I got stopped again, this time by two cops on a single bike, (one of them riding bi**ch). This time there was no red light scam, they simply just asked for money and the reason they claim to stop me was that my new hire car had no metal license plate, just a piece of paper with the plate number tapped to the rear window. They quickly left after I said I had no money. The incident with the taxi when I landed was truly frustrating, and I am not a patient man at the best of times so I did what I felt was right. I had no time to waste since I was suppose to be meeting someone in the capital. The incident with the chicas, well 2000 pesos for two chicks was a bargain and I love a bargain. I will say that in the capital, in the malecon area at night there are many cop cars with nothing better to do than look for quick money. I'm not sure if I mentioned on the second or third day I was stopped by the police whilst walking in the night, on the street parallel to pasteur and was asked for I'd, I had none and was just asked to lift my shirt and then they left me to it. Even after the incident with the chicas the guy at reception at the hotel said worst comes to worst he was going to pay the cops to leave. Cops here are the worst than ever come across and I've been to some very corrupt countries. Perhaps I have bad luck or a face that asks for trouble, either way paying for stuff to get you out of trouble is equally not a good lesson to learn, be it $5 or $xxxx. Each incident I felt things out, obviously I'm reacting and not acting out because I am looking for trouble but reacting to the situation, If paying the chicas off with more money was the best solution I would have, and besides after tipping the security guy and night receptionist and 500 to one of the chicas I payed 1500 in total for what was suppose to be a 2000 deal.

I am on vacation and my aim is to enjoy myself without being someone's ATM machine when they see fit. If you speak no spanish you will get bent over and done up the ass in the capital one way or the other, if not by the cops then by the chicas, or even by the hotel or the hire car company you choose as well as taxis.

I caught a bus to Sosua today, after doing a day trip yesterday to see a DC chica in santiago. Caribe tours bus left a few minutes past 3 and didn't get to sosua till 8:15 maybe. One of the guys working for caribe tours wanted all our attention, and basically said in spanish that he needs Aids medication which costs him 30,000 pesos a month and that his job doesn't pay that much and obviously he needs the drugs. I was skeptical but once I saw that people were giving him money and saying take care and stuff like that I gave him some too (2000). That was selfish I must say as it felt good to give.

I hit GBP yesterday evening, was tricky to find, even with the info on here, though it certainly helped. there were quite a few chicas, maybe close to a dozen, and a lot of young dominican men, hardly any seats. I didn't sit just looked around picked one chick, then another and sessioned with both for 1500 pesos. For the price it was excellent but they wouldn't kiss each other and they even wiped off their saliva after sucking me off before the other did. One girl even asked the other to take the condom off after I'd f*cked her as she didn't want to touch the other's juice i guess. but for the price can't argue, though i def won't be going again. tons of better looking ladies in the DR than are easy to find. I've been to all the citas on pasteur, also same thing better looking girls elsewhere for 3-4000 pesos. I also picked up a girl opposite the pharmacy/claro/bank popular on avenida indepencia for a blow job for 400 pesos in the car, best head in a long time.

As a last note Sosua is way different than when I was last here, many gringo couples, even a few teenage kids, tables and chairs everywhere. Chicas in Rumbas asking me to keep it down when talking about cash. Oh and to answer your question I am on vacation to bang some big ass chicks that speak spanish, I'm not looking for trouble but it seems to find me in the capital.

PS I've been telling everyone that mi abuelo es de aqui (my grandfather is dominican) and I've been pulling it off.

I am here at hostal San Francisco de Asis, $40 per night, air conditioner working great, also wi-fi. Lucky me I got a room on the left wing, electric service went out minutes ago and the electric plant is at the other side of the hotel. I exchanged cash at Franks in el Conde, 43.25 pesos per dollar. Bank at the airport is paying 43.10, Western Union and Caribe Express should be 43.35.

I asked info about transportation from the airport. You can walk to the outside street that leads to Boca Chica, a very short walk from the terminal, take the bus to Boca Chica, the one that makes stops. In Boca Chica terminal take the Expreso Boca Chica to the city and there you can take a taxi to any area. To Bocachica you have to be on the sea side part of the street.

Security and customs employees gets free transport on shuttle buses, other airport employees use public transportation, they left their buses near the airport on the highway and then take a motoconcho to the airport as I observed today.

This is boricuaonline, reporting live from Santo Domingo.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1596730]This is boricuaonline, reporting live from Santo Domingo.[/QUOTE]Very good info and an interesting journalistic sign off! I will get to use the info next week. Thanks much.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1596782]Very good info and an interesting journalistic sign off! I will get to use the info next week. Thanks much.[/QUOTE]I intended to visit Slip on Me massage place today. I called Aero taxi and asked the fare between my hotel and street number 3 on Malecon. They do not know any 3rd street. I told them is after Club Libanes. 160 pesos. Use Club Libanes as a reference to get near Slip on me. The cab driver do not know where 3rd street was so I told him leave 2 streets after this one labeled as number 1. I began walking around trying to get to the place. I asked several persons about third street, nobody knows. I called the place several times, nobody answer. I went to a colmadon, to a gas station, they do not know street number 3. I called the place, they finally answer: " we are on a yellow building after Club libanes but we are booked for today you can make an appointment for next week. " Bah. So next Thursday I am going there. I called Aero to pick me in front of Club Libanes. Trip back cost 150 pesos. The security from club offered me a chair while I waited, so I seat in the shadow in front of security booth. People entering in the car began to stop in front of me asking as if I was a security guard. I asked the first lady: "are you from Israel?" (Club Libanes is the social club for local palestinian, sirian and lebanon people). But I rapidly told the lady that I am not from security. The lady laughed. The cab arrived and I went to Villar Hermanos where I had a delicious lunch for 7 $. I was thinking going to GBP but I have a date for tonight so I decided to spend all my energy with her.

Power went out again. I re activated my local Claro cellphone for 150 pesos.

Later.

Boricua,

You broke the taxi ripoff trend. I hope everybody noticed the two things you did 1) confirmed the fare before beginning trip 2) knew where you were going.

Very funny story about the club Libanes and you being taken for security guard. There are a lot of rich Lebanese in the Dominican Republic and all over the Caribbean.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1596811]I intended to visit Slip on Me massage place today. I called Aero taxi and asked the fare between my hotel and street number 3 on Malecon. They do not know any 3rd street. I told them is after Club Libanes. 160 pesos. Use Club Libanes as a reference to get near Slip on me. The cab driver do not know where 3rd street was so I told him leave 2 streets after this one labeled as number 1. I began walking around trying to get to the place. I asked several persons about third street, nobody knows. I called the place several times, nobody answer. I went to a colmadon, to a gas station, they do not know street number 3. I called the place, they finally answer: " we are on a yellow building after Club libanes but we are booked for today you can make an appointment for next week. " Bah. So next Thursday I am going there. I called Aero to pick me in front of Club Libanes. Trip back cost 150 pesos. The security from club offered me a chair while I waited, so I seat in the shadow in front of security booth. People entering in the car began to stop in front of me asking as if I was a security guard. I asked the first lady: "are you from Israel?" (Club Libanes is the social club for local palestinian, sirian and lebanon people). But I rapidly told the lady that I am not from security. The lady laughed. The cab arrived and I went to Villar Hermanos where I had a delicious lunch for 7 $. I was thinking going to GBP but I have a date for tonight so I decided to spend all my energy with her.

Power went out again. I re activated my local Claro cellphone for 150 pesos.

Later.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1596857]Boricua,

You broke the taxi ripoff trend. I hope everybody noticed the two things you did 1) confirmed the fare before beginning trip 2) knew where you were going.

Very funny story about the club Libanes and you being taken for security guard. There are a lot of rich Lebanese in the Dominican Republic and all over the Caribbean.[/QUOTE]Today I paid 160 pesos from Agora Mall to my hotel. I paid nothing from my hotel to Agora since the lady I had sex with today has a suv and gave me a ride. I met the lady from Badoo and finally met her in person today. She has large fake tits, evidently before the enhancing she was cup negative A since the implant took all her titty area. Her best sexual skill is oral sex, she can be doing it for a long time without losing her SPM (sucking per minute) pressure. Before sex we talked for a while, maybe for an hour, a mutual massage make the transition to the sexual activity. Evidently she has managed her revenue well, although she told me the car is her father's car, evidently it is hers or her father loves pinky accesories. She worked on Lebanon once, so she has international experience. At the beginning is was just going to be a rutinary sexual experience but I seduced her into the GFE, selling the fantasy that we can be in a serious long term relationship. So additional to sex we kissed and hugged with intensity. It was very good, but tonight I am going to repeat with yesterday night lady, she was good, very very good. We spent a couple of hours at Jaragua merengue bar enjoying the live show and drinking 200 pesos small beer. She is a flaquita (slim) caucasian lady from Santiago. She offered me next Friday to visist and stay in Santiago for the night to visit a tipico local place with live merengue apambichao music. Sounds like a new and nice experience to have. My plan is to spend a night in Matum hotel.

Matum is a good choice. Don't "pegar cuernos a tu chica Badoo con los cueros del monumento"- they will try to get at you if you go to Kukamakara or those other joints around the monument. There will be some loose women in the Diamante Casino in the Matum too. The Santiago tipicos are friendlier than the Puerto Plata / Nagua / places. People are into having a good time instead of gunplay and drug gang bragging. You are making all the right moves Boricua. Get yourself a plan be date for the next day or the same night because Santiago can be real quiet when you don't have anything lined up.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1597223]Today I paid 160 pesos from Agora Mall to my hotel. I paid nothing from my hotel to Agora since the lady I had sex with today has a suv and gave me a ride. I met the lady from Badoo and finally met her in person today. She has large fake tits, evidently before the enhancing she was cup negative A since the implant took all her titty area. Her best sexual skill is oral sex, she can be doing it for a long time without losing her SPM (sucking per minute) pressure. Before sex we talked for a while, maybe for an hour, a mutual massage make the transition to the sexual activity. Evidently she has managed her revenue well, although she told me the car is her father's car, evidently it is hers or her father loves pinky accesories. She worked on Lebanon once, so she has international experience. At the beginning is was just going to be a rutinary sexual experience but I seduced her into the GFE, selling the fantasy that we can be in a serious long term relationship. So additional to sex we kissed and hugged with intensity. It was very good, but tonight I am going to repeat with yesterday night lady, she was good, very very good. We spent a couple of hours at Jaragua merengue bar enjoying the live show and drinking 200 pesos small beer. She is a flaquita (slim) caucasian lady from Santiago. She offered me next Friday to visist and stay in Santiago for the night to visit a tipico local place with live merengue apambichao music. Sounds like a new and nice experience to have. My plan is to spend a night in Matum hotel.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1596478]I'm glad you've shared your opinion with us. This is the first time I've ever had problems in the DR, the thing is I find, in Santo Domingo everyone wants something from you, I remember reading a post here about an immigration agent asking for money on written on a piece of paper which I was shocked to read but now I can totally see that happening. Last night I got stopped again, this time by two cops on a single bike, (one of them riding bi**ch). This time there was no red light scam, they simply just asked for money and the reason they claim to stop me was that my new hire car had no metal license plate, just a piece of paper with the plate number tapped to the rear window. They quickly left after I said I had no money. The incident with the taxi when I landed was truly frustrating, and I am not a patient man at the best of times so I did what I felt was right. I had no time to waste since I was suppose to be meeting someone in the capital. The incident with the chicas, well 2000 pesos for two chicks was a bargain and I love a bargain. I will say that in the capital, in the malecon area at night there are many cop cars with nothing better to do than look for quick money. I'm not sure if I mentioned on the second or third day I was stopped by the police whilst walking in the night, on the street parallel to pasteur and was asked for I'd, I had none and was just asked to lift my shirt and then they left me to it. Even after the incident with the chicas the guy at reception at the hotel said worst comes to worst he was going to pay the cops to leave. Cops here are the worst than ever come across and I've been to some very corrupt countries. Perhaps I have bad luck or a face that asks for trouble, either way paying for stuff to get you out of trouble is equally not a good lesson to learn, be it $5 or $xxxx. Each incident I felt things out, obviously I'm reacting and not acting out because I am looking for trouble but reacting to the situation, If paying the chicas off with more money was the best solution I would have, and besides after tipping the security guy and night receptionist and 500 to one of the chicas I payed 1500 in total for what was suppose to be a 2000 deal.

I am on vacation and my aim is to enjoy myself without being someone's ATM machine when they see fit. If you speak no spanish you will get bent over and done up the ass in the capital one way or the other, if not by the cops then by the chicas, or even by the hotel or the hire car company you choose as well as taxis.

I caught a bus to Sosua today, after doing a day trip yesterday to see a DC chica in santiago. Caribe tours bus left a few minutes past 3 and didn't get to sosua till 8:15 maybe. One of the guys working for caribe tours wanted all our attention, and basically said in spanish that he needs Aids medication which costs him 30,000 pesos a month and that his job doesn't pay that much and obviously he needs the drugs. I was skeptical but once I saw that people were giving him money and saying take care and stuff like that I gave him some too (2000). That was selfish I must say as it felt good to give.

I hit GBP yesterday evening, was tricky to find, even with the info on here, though it certainly helped. there were quite a few chicas, maybe close to a dozen, and a lot of young dominican men, hardly any seats. I didn't sit just looked around picked one chick, then another and sessioned with both for 1500 pesos. For the price it was excellent but they wouldn't kiss each other and they even wiped off their saliva after sucking me off before the other did. One girl even asked the other to take the condom off after I'd f*cked her as she didn't want to touch the other's juice i guess. but for the price can't argue, though i def won't be going again. tons of better looking ladies in the DR than are easy to find. I've been to all the citas on pasteur, also same thing better looking girls elsewhere for 3-4000 pesos. I also picked up a girl opposite the pharmacy/claro/bank popular on avenida indepencia for a blow job for 400 pesos in the car, best head in a long time.

As a last note Sosua is way different than when I was last here, many gringo couples, even a few teenage kids, tables and chairs everywhere. Chicas in Rumbas asking me to keep it down when talking about cash. Oh and to answer your question I am on vacation to bang some big ass chicks that speak spanish, I'm not looking for trouble but it seems to find me in the capital.

PS I've been telling everyone that mi abuelo es de aqui (my grandfather is dominican) and I've been pulling it off.[/QUOTE]Maybe you do have a face that looks like trouble, I'm not sure but this is very strange. It's been almost one year now since I've been going to the DR, I've been there at least 7-8 times between Santo Domingo, Santiago, and Sosua with my average trip being 2-3 days and I'm a guy that likes to walk a lot and get out and about. I have yet to be stopped by a cop in the last 12 months (knock on wood). Yet you've been stopped what? Multiple times a day? I can understand if it was once during a trip. Maybe even twice. But it really does seem like you spend more time with cops than you do for the actual purpose you are in DR.

Hope your luck with the cops improves, vacations are meant to be enjoyed.

Landed at 2.00 PM at SDQ. More than an hour late flight. It was very hot outside. I went to the departure area and saw a minibus waiting for people but the idiot wanted 500 pesos to take me to where I wanted to go. Parque independencia. Not many potentilal passengers and so the wait was long too. I had some cash but after paying for a claro simcard and 200 pesos of minutes I did not have 500 pesos to give him and I felt he was overcharging. In any case, this was not the bus I thought it would be. Speaking to a few guys. Porters and so forth, I was told that there is a van than charges 70 pesos but alas, I could not prove it.

I walked across the parking lot and the heat was intense. Called a concho. He came and loaded my small bag on the gas holder and I rode on the pillion. He took me across the highway. The side going to the city. That bit was dicey as the system does not quite allow for a crossing at the inersection. The ride otherwise was uneventful. The airport road was empty. The conchista took me to the terminus where a A / see minibus was waiting. That bus starts there. I told the conductor my destination, he nodded and took my luggage. It is 50 pesos to the town but because my luggage took one slot, I was asked to pay for two seats - 100 pesos. The conchista on the other hand, I overpaid - 100 pesos. For 200 pesos, I got where I wanted to go. However not recommended for others.

I was supposed to have received a visit from a local at 5 pm but she gave a bunch of excuses as to why she can't be where I am before 6 pm so I cut her off. The place I am staying (not a hotel but a property that belongs to a German from Stuttgart, is a street intersecting el conde. The road that is not open to motorized vehicle. I did not eat the whole day so sat at a place previously known as Pacos. Asked for Mangu with an egg which cost a fucking 200 pesos. Came also with fried cheese and salami, stuff that fatten the DR. Asked them to pack those uneatables and gave it to a young man who could do with some food.

As I walked out on El Conde at night, realized there were a whole bunch of females soliciting there. One wanted to tag along. I told her I felt like being alone. She suggested to get together for 1500, I said what and the price went down to 1000. Anyway, just random females do not do it for me so, walked on Av (Calle) Independencia to get to Hermanos Villar. A forum member had told me that it is walkable. Indeed a leisurely 15 minutes. There are tens of women standing around along that road until I reached the restaurant but the food did not look too appetizing. I also realized that I had been there two years back but did not recall the name. Anyway, on the way back, stopped at a colmado, bought a presidente for 70 pesos and returned to my place walking. Overall, an average day, without any female company. Tomorrow someone is supposed to show up at 10 AM. Famous last words.

Exchange rate: 43.30 on el Conde. I also bought a data pack from claro: 300 pesos - 7 days /700 MB.

You risked your life to save a few hundred pesos. I am happy you were not injured.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1598559]Landed at 2.00 PM at SDQ. More than an hour late flight. It was very hot outside. I went to the departure area and saw a minibus waiting for people but the idiot wanted 500 pesos to take me to where I wanted to go. Parque independencia. Not many potentilal passengers and so the wait was long too. I had some cash but after paying for a claro simcard and 200 pesos of minutes I did not have 500 pesos to give him and I felt he was overcharging. In any case, this was not the bus I thought it would be. Speaking to a few guys. Porters and so forth, I was told that there is a van than charges 70 pesos but alas, I could not prove it.

I walked across the parking lot and the heat was intense. Called a concho. He came and loaded my small bag on the gas holder and I rode on the pillion. He took me across the highway. The side going to the city. That bit was dicey as the system does not quite allow for a crossing at the inersection. The ride otherwise was uneventful. The airport road was empty. The conchista took me to the terminus where a A / see minibus was waiting. That bus starts there. I told the conductor my destination, he nodded and took my luggage. It is 50 pesos to the town but because my luggage took one slot, I was asked to pay for two seats - 100 pesos. The conchista on the other hand, I overpaid - 100 pesos. For 200 pesos, I got where I wanted to go. However not recommended for others.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1599006]You risked your life to save a few hundred pesos. I am happy you were not injured.[/QUOTE]Laypeople are saying the same thing about mongers. You are risking your life being with hookers. It's all part of living. Different experiences for different people. Someone has to pioneer it. Everyone does not stay on eggshells when in the DR. Good job Tempo.

I spent a few days on Barcelo Capella in Juan Dolio. To go to JD I took a taxi to Parque Enriquillo, 160 pesos and there I took the regular bus, not the expreso to La Romana. It cost 70 pesos and they left me in front of the street entrance that leads to my hotel. Although the Capella was good there are better all inclusives. Anyway I spend a day alone, next day my chica arrived after confusing my instructions to go to Juan Dolio because when she called and said. "I am waiting for you at the lobby" she was in fact in Hamaca hotel lobby in Boca Chica. Her confussion was the joke of the day. We spent two days together, it was very nice, like a honeymoon without the marriage.

For some reason we ended our stay at the resort tired so instead of returning back to the city on public transportation a taxi offered $30 for the Juan Dolio to Santo Domingo transfer so I accepted. Back to Hostal I got a room at floor 2 that satisfies my needs of a place with ice cold air conditioning. My chica went home. By night I had a meal at Villar and later I walked to Jaragua. I observed Policia Nacional very active around malecon and Independencia solo only 3 streetgirls were available after midnight. At Jaragua I was always flirting with one of the waitress but after she saw me with a girl, and in posterior visits with two other girls she bacame unfriendly to me. Yesterday she saw me alone and asked: "alone today or your chica of the night is late?" I told her I was alone and that the other girls were just friends and that I wanted to be her friend. She laughed and I told her that wanted to go out with her. She gave me her number with the bill, yay.

I walked the Independencia and only 3 girls on the street, no one I like so no blowjob for yesterday night.

Today I went early to Slip on Me massage place, on koplan building two blocks after club Libanes on el malecon. The cost of taxi was 160 pesos. The building is a residential one with some office space, the elevators do not work. Slip on Me is on a fith floor, space 504, the place is an apartment where rooms are used as massage areas. The place entrance is in the back part of the building. From the girls available I chose Nikki, a pettite blonde. The cost of the massage is 2,300 pesos. Once in the room you get nude and she gave you a shower. We go the massage bed and she used plenty of warm gel to give you a body to body massage. At the beginning I was just letting her giving the massage but I had to touch that body, no problem to do it. The massage included a handjob. Nikki was very nice and let me see her fully nude, they use a panty while giving the massage. The room was semi dark with a live merengue band playing during massage time. Kidding is was relaxing music from a music player.

The massage ends with another shower to take out all that gel.

To be continued.

I'm an experienced monger and not new to DR, but I've never been to SDQ. I clearly understand the difference between a "point and shoot" environment like Sosua and a more conventional urban environment, so I'm not tryng to compare SDQ to Sosua, exactly, but in my reading here it seems like the prices are considerably higher in SDQ than what they would be in Sosua, which seems like a bit of reversal from conventional wisdom regading enclave type mongering, and that transportation is both a hassle in SDQ and would have a high cumulative cost over the course of a visit.

My question then is this: What are the benefits to going to SDQ as opposed to the simpler environment of Sosua? There's no mention of noteworthy daytime activities in SDQ, so it can't be for the cultural stuff like it might be in Bangkok, Lima or Havana, or even the beach like Sosua. I have a hard time believing that the girls are much better there than in other locations, but I'm trying to keep an open mind and am genuinely interested in visiting SDQ, but as I live in the northwest the trip there isn't substantially different than it would be for me to go to South America or even Asia (although I tend to prefer latinas over thai or filipina girls) and it's longer for me to SDQ than it is for me to go to Havana so, will you gentlemen be so kind as to make a case for me to SDQ? In your views what makes this a noteworthy mongering destination, since it would appear that there is a loyal core of repeat visitors here.

[QUOTE=Talion;1599826]I'm an experienced monger and not new to DR, but I've never been to SDQ. I clearly understand the difference between a "point and shoot" environment like Sosua and a more conventional urban environment, so I'm not tryng to compare SDQ to Sosua, exactly, but in my reading here it seems like the prices are considerably higher in SDQ than what they would be in Sosua, which seems like a bit of reversal from conventional wisdom regading enclave type mongering, and that transportation is both a hassle in SDQ and would have a high cumulative cost over the course of a visit.

My question then is this: What are the benefits to going to SDQ as opposed to the simpler environment of Sosua? There's no mention of noteworthy daytime activities in SDQ, so it can't be for the cultural stuff like it might be in Bangkok, Lima or Havana, or even the beach like Sosua. I have a hard time believing that the girls are much better there than in other locations, but I'm trying to keep an open mind and am genuinely interested in visiting SDQ, but as I live in the northwest the trip there isn't substantially different than it would be for me to go to South America or even Asia (although I tend to prefer latinas over thai or filipina girls) and it's longer for me to SDQ than it is for me to go to Havana so, will you gentlemen be so kind as to make a case for me to SDQ? In your views what makes this a noteworthy mongering destination, since it would appear that there is a loyal core of repeat visitors here.[/QUOTE]The people I know who are Dominicans that live in the DR like going to Santo Domingo because it has way more of everything because of it's size. But for me it is one big hassle the women cost 4 times as much as they do in Sosua and other parts of the DR and the 5-0 is every where.

[QUOTE=Talion;1599826]I'm an experienced monger and not new to DR, but I've never been to SDQ. I clearly understand the difference between a "point and shoot" environment like Sosua and a more conventional urban environment, so I'm not tryng to compare SDQ to Sosua, exactly, but in my reading here it seems like the prices are considerably higher in SDQ than what they would be in Sosua, which seems like a bit of reversal from conventional wisdom regading enclave type mongering, and that transportation is both a hassle in SDQ and would have a high cumulative cost over the course of a visit.

My question then is this: What are the benefits to going to SDQ as opposed to the simpler environment of Sosua? There's no mention of noteworthy daytime activities in SDQ, so it can't be for the cultural stuff like it might be in Bangkok, Lima or Havana, or even the beach like Sosua. I have a hard time believing that the girls are much better there than in other locations, but I'm trying to keep an open mind and am genuinely interested in visiting SDQ, but as I live in the northwest the trip there isn't substantially different than it would be for me to go to South America or even Asia (although I tend to prefer latinas over thai or filipina girls) and it's longer for me to SDQ than it is for me to go to Havana so, will you gentlemen be so kind as to make a case for me to SDQ? In your views what makes this a noteworthy mongering destination, since it would appear that there is a loyal core of repeat visitors here.[/QUOTE]Simply put in the capital you can find GFE options a lot easier, in Sosua it's all p4 p now in the capital you will find women to date and obviously dating also costs money but obviously it's different. If your budget permits hire a car and get to know the city well, you won't be bored or wish you were in Sosua.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1599426]I spent a few days on Barcelo Capella in Juan Dolio. To go to JD I took a taxi to Parque Enriquillo, 160 pesos and there I took the regular bus, not the expreso to La Romana. It cost 70 pesos and they left me in front of the street entrance that leads to my hotel. Although the Capella was good there are better all inclusives. Anyway I spend a day alone, next day my chica arrived after confusing my instructions to go to Juan Dolio because when she called and said. "I am waiting for you at the lobby" she was in fact in Hamaca hotel lobby in Boca Chica. Her confussion was the joke of the day. We spent two days together, it was very nice, like a honeymoon without the marriage.

For some reason we ended our stay at the resort tired so instead of returning back to the city on public transportation a taxi offered $30 for the Juan Dolio to Santo Domingo transfer so I accepted. Back to Hostal I got a room at floor 2 that satisfies my needs of a place with ice cold air conditioning. My chica went home. By night I had a meal at Villar and later I walked to Jaragua. I observed Policia Nacional very active around malecon and Independencia solo only 3 streetgirls were available after midnight. At Jaragua I was always flirting with one of the waitress but after she saw me with a girl, and in posterior visits with two other girls she bacame unfriendly to me. Yesterday she saw me alone and asked: "alone today or your chica of the night is late?" I told her I was alone and that the other girls were just friends and that I wanted to be her friend. She laughed and I told her that wanted to go out with her. She gave me her number with the bill, yay.

I walked the Independencia and only 3 girls on the street, no one I like so no blowjob for yesterday night.

Today I went early to Slip on Me massage place, on koplan building two blocks after club Libanes on el malecon. The cost of taxi was 160 pesos. The building is a residential one with some office space, the elevators do not work. Slip on Me is on a fith floor, space 504, the place is an apartment where rooms are used as massage areas. The place entrance is in the back part of the building. From the girls available I chose Nikki, a pettite blonde. The cost of the massage is 2,300 pesos. Once in the room you get nude and she gave you a shower. We go the massage bed and she used plenty of warm gel to give you a body to body massage. At the beginning I was just letting her giving the massage but I had to touch that body, no problem to do it. The massage included a handjob. Nikki was very nice and let me see her fully nude, they use a panty while giving the massage. The room was semi dark with a live merengue band playing during massage time. Kidding is was relaxing music from a music player.

The massage ends with another shower to take out all that gel.

To be continued.[/QUOTE]I'm back now but I also noticed a lot of police cars sometimes three or more alond Malecon at once and a couple on independencia. Be cautious if hiring a car, and even walking on quiet streets. Also ask reception at asis for a spare key so you can leave the ac on 24/7 as they take ages to cool down the room.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1599896]Simply put in the capital you can find GFE options a lot easier, in Sosua it's all p4 p now in the capital you will find women to date and obviously dating also costs money but obviously it's different. If your budget permits hire a car and get to know the city well, you won't be bored or wish you were in Sosua.[/QUOTE]I wasn't so much thinking about missing Sosua, so much as I was wondering what the real draw to Santo Domingo is. I can articulate the draw for most individual places that I go to and so am curious about SDQ. Given the discrepancy in price and the extra hassles involved I know the draw of something must be there, but I don't see it being articulated here in clear terms, and that's what I'm looking for. Why go to SDQ? Increased GFE is definitely a plus, but Filipinas and especially the Cubanas blow Dominicanas away in that respect, so that can't be the only reason. What is it about the city that has attracted you, and what are the areas that are only car accessible that you explored? I totally get why you wouldn't want to be relying on taxis all the time, but if it's just a drive through local areas to see the barrios then a short term cab hire will do that. Are you picking up SW's in the car? I didn't see mention of that in your early reports but I did read about the cop hassles that come with driving (DR is notorious for this, and one good reason for not hiring one) and I must admit that I agree with those posters who said you are courting danger when you engage with them as often as you have. Props to you for good luck and the good results in dealing with them so far, BTW, but it's just a matter of time.

The 21 year old (mentioned in the previous post) supposed to show up at 10 did not show up. To make matters worse, she does not even have a phone so I left a message at the website she uses once a while, to say goodbye and that I waited 40 minutes. Then at 12.15, I see her Badoo message flashing on phone. She is there at Parque independencia but had gotten delayed with the babysitting. I told her "sorry".

I get back to my place at 11 and call another person I had called earlier. She is nice on the phone, says she is free but given the rush, she needs a cab. She is from Pantoja. Very far from zona colonial. I have not had any dick exercise since I landed and so in my stupidity, I say ok .400 pesos. She shows up at 1230 finally and I pay the cab. Then I realize, I made a mistake. She looks nice, 19, very nice pair of knockers but has a long face. I thank her for her coming at such a short notice. I wanted to go eat at a local place but she says she eats chicken everyday. Another warning. Landed at villar Hnos. Bad vibes there too. Moral of the story paid 700 pesos for the meal, rarely spoke during meal and then gave her money to get straight back to where she belonged. Bad judgment on my part. I do not like prima donnas.

The evening turned out to be much better. A woman I knew a year back, a 21 year old from Bonao, who lives in Higuey now, came to SD for the night. A beer in the room and the much anticipated exercise. Was hungry by 8 PM and went looking for a place recommended by BoricuaOL but it was closed. Wound up at the open air place at Villar – a great fish in garlic sauce plus rice. The woman asked for only a sancocho, speaking of attitudes. We walked back as she ate an icecream from Bon, and I sipping my coffee. Ah, the previous woman did not find the pork chops she had ordered to her liking so I asked her to pack it and take home – she dithered. I got it packed and after I walked back to parque independencia, gave it to a little boy panhandling.

Friday, the woman left for Bonao at 10 ish after one lst round. Enjoyed the 4 exercises. The great thing about this is, she is texting and I take my dick close to her mouth, she does not miss the hint. And drops the phone and gets busy.

I too packed and called car rental from Nelly to come and pick me up. Idiotic newbie, took for ever to rent a car and finally left SD at 2. Terrible weekend traffic at that hour and rain as I head towards Bonao. Get off highway at Piedra Blanca, on to Cotui and finally Pimentel – night stay there. The 20 year old, a 40 DD was waiting. Same story. Speak normally and every now and then nudge her head to the required destination and she keeps you warm.

Beautiful drive from Piedra blanca to Cotui – the mountainous part and later the green rice fields from Cotui. Sleeping at a cabana in Pimentel 850 pesos – Las terrenas next.

Question: Do the women here use toothbrush and toothpaste? Kissing and vigorous too can be a little unpleasant if not accompanied by food / drink.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1599898]I'm back now but I also noticed a lot of police cars sometimes three or more alond Malecon at once and a couple on independencia. Be cautious if hiring a car, and even walking on quiet streets. Also ask reception at asis for a spare key so you can leave the ac on 24/7 as they take ages to cool down the room.[/QUOTE]Asis rooms I think all have the same mini split units, if you get a large room or if you get a room at the upper level you will have problem cooling down your room. The room I got is a freezer, if I come back here I am going to request this room.

Yesterday night there were more girls in both malecon and Independencia. There were a couple of cuties in Sheraton parking, one asked for 2000 pesos short term.

Yesterday night I went to a barrio, Simon Bolivar were mi flaquita made me dinner. I should no be surprised but I really was when we got to her house by a small alley between two houses, then climbing upstairs with no railings. The house has a fridge almost empty, just juice, water and eggs, the washer is next to her mom's bed. They use a ladder, a weak one that has a metal wire to secure it to the floor to get to the house roof to dry their clothes, very unsafe and dangerous. As I am writing this I am wondering, where the bathroom was? I left before midnight because as she warned me, it is not safe for me.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1599909]Yesterday night I went to a barrio, Simon Bolivar were mi flaquita made me dinner. I should no be surprised but I really was when we got to her house by a small alley between two houses, then climbing upstairs with no railings. The house has a fridge almost empty, just juice, water and eggs, the washer is next to her mom's bed. They use a ladder, a weak one that has a metal wire to secure it to the floor to get to the house roof to dry their clothes, very unsafe and dangerous. As I am writing this I am wondering, where the bathroom was? I left before midnight because as she warned me, it is not safe for me.[/QUOTE]Have not had such genuine experience so far. Went to a girl's house (dad / mom /12 year old sister / even abuelo) living together. In Montecristi, a couple of years back. Mom wanted to make dinner, ended up inviting all to a seaside restaurant. Yours sound more interesting.

SD is a monger killer as I found out on my first two trips. Luckily two vets who no longer post on this board (Jao and Bq) took me under their wing and showed me all the secrets of la capital. SD and Cuba are running neck to neck as my future retirement home.

Once SD is opened to you then you will understand what few who have the patience now know. SD is not a quick hit, most likely it will get you if you are rushed. It has every amenity that big American cities have.

With the outter towns to draw from, you have an endless supply of fine ladies to draw from. But you better have your game tight when hunting in SD otherwise you will be headed to the airport crying for Sosua.

[QUOTE=Talion;1599899]I wasn't so much thinking about missing Sosua, so much as I was wondering what the real draw to Santo Domingo is. I can articulate the draw for most individual places that I go to and so am curious about SDQ. Given the discrepancy in price and the extra hassles involved I know the draw of something must be there, but I don't see it being articulated here in clear terms, and that's what I'm looking for. Why go to SDQ? Increased GFE is definitely a plus, but Filipinas and especially the Cubanas blow Dominicanas away in that respect, so that can't be the only reason. What is it about the city that has attracted you, and what are the areas that are only car accessible that you explored? I totally get why you wouldn't want to be relying on taxis all the time, but if it's just a drive through local areas to see the barrios then a short term cab hire will do that. Are you picking up SW's in the car? I didn't see mention of that in your early reports but I did read about the cop hassles that come with driving (DR is notorious for this, and one good reason for not hiring one) and I must admit that I agree with those posters who said you are courting danger when you engage with them as often as you have. Props to you for good luck and the good results in dealing with them so far, BTW, but it's just a matter of time.[/QUOTE]Why are you bringing Filipinas into the debate? Your question was Santo Domingo or Sosua. I think it is safe to say that most guys who frequent DR have never been to Asia, so you could just have well said that Martians have the best GFE and they would have been none the wiser. From reading many of the posts I would even say it is safe to say that they have been hardly anywhere except DR. Since you brought it up though, just for comparison's sake I would say Santo Domingo rates more with Manila (tons of people, traffic, P4P is more expensive and spread out; you will need to use taxis or have your own transportation). Angeles City is more along the lines of Sosua. Most bars are on or off Fields in AC and in Sosua the few that they have are mostly on Pedro Clisante. Every place that you need to go is a short walk away. 9 times out of 10, any chick that you see walking around in those areas are going to be available for you to take to your room because those are P4P centers.

But to your main question, I don't know many guys who would choose Santo Domingo over Sosua if their primary purpose is for mongering. Of the guys who would, you can best believe 99% of them speak Spanish. The 1% that does not speak Spanish has probably never been to Sosua before and is afraid to branch out. From my experience, if you are a guy who can speak Spanish then there is no need to monger. You can pick up regular chicks with ease, so it probably would not matter where you went. However, if you were into picking up regular chicks it would make more sense to do that in Santo Domingo because it is so large. Every other city is the DR is so small and the hangouts are so minimal, that if you wanted to have more than one regular chick then it is not a question of if you would get caught, but when. I am a history/culture kind of guy, but as many times that I have been to Santo Domingo I have never taken in one touristic site.

When the word vacation comes to mind what do you think of? I would say that most do not think of a big city environment with the sound of car horns from 7 am until the night time. Most probably think of a relaxed beach environment which Sosua offers. An environment where you don't need a car because everything is within walking distance. For those Santo Domingo guys who want a beach then Boca Chica and Juan Dolio are a close drive away, with Boca Chica having many cheaper P4P GFE options if need be.

As for me, my first two trips to DR were to Boca Chica without a car. On the first trip I did have a girl with a car who took me around Santo Domingo. For most of the chicks I would meet online they would always say Boca Chica was too far for them to go after being at work all day. After the first two trips I started to fly into Puerto Plata and frequent Sosua. I started renting cars there because the taxi wanted $20 from the airport and $15 to the airport for the 10 minute ride. Hell it was only about $23/day to rent a car and I could go where the hell I wanted. So that was a no brainer for me. My third time on the south coast and hanging in Boca Chica, I took 2 gua guas into Santo Domingo and then the Caribe Tours bus 5 hours to Sosua. I vowed to never do that again, and have been renting cars ever since.

Since it was still the same story from the online chicks that Boca Chica was too far, I finally bit the bullet and decided to get to know Santo Domingo. A guy from the board named Jaosousa was kind enough to meet up with me and drive me around and show me the ropes in Santo Domingo. After that, I started hanging with MrGogo who showed me more ropes. With the help of those two guys along with google maps on gps these days, and countless non-pro options, I am comfortable hanging out in Santo Domingo and using it for a base in the south instead of staying in Boca Chica. When I am up north I may fall through Sosua anywhere from a few minutes to see what is going on up to two days max.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1599908]

Question: Do the women here use toothbrush and toothpaste? Kissing and vigorous too can be a little unpleasant if not accompanied by food / drink.[/QUOTE]LOL, I was thinking the same minutes ago, my inference is most do not, there are more important things to spend money as for example internet, cellphones and hair. The lady I am dating has the same problem, but food and mentos, she loves mint, has helped.

My advice while waiting for a chica, be a little more patient and find something to do while waiting for her: drink a couple of beers at the nearby bar, watch divertido con jochy on tv. They almost never arrive on time, they are spending time getting ready for you. Remember they spend some time shaving their pussies as some of them have not had sex in the last ten hours, maybe more.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1599920]Why are you bringing Filipinas into the debate? Your question was Santo Domingo or Sosua. I think it is safe to say that most guys who frequent DR have never been to Asia, so you could just have well said that Martians have the best GFE and they would have been none the wiser. From reading many of the posts I would even say it is safe to say that they have been hardly anywhere except DR. Since you brought it up though, just for comparison's sake I would say Santo Domingo rates more with Manila (tons of people, traffic, P4P is more expensive and spread out; you will need to use taxis or have your own transportation). Angeles City is more along the lines of Sosua. Most bars are on or off Fields in AC and in Sosua the few that they have are mostly on Pedro Clisante. Every place that you need to go is a short walk away. 9 times out of 10, any chick that you see walking around in those areas are going to be available for you to take to your room because those are P4P centers.

But to your main question, I don't know many guys who would choose Santo Domingo over Sosua if their primary purpose is for mongering...[/QUOTE]Thanks for yours and Mr. Gogo's response. I appreciate you taking the time to provide a thoughtful response to my question. I didn't mention the Filipinas or the Cubanas to enter into a "debate". Cebate wasn't the purpose of my question, and they only arose to create contrast and to better frame the question. To put it more clearly if I just wanted to bang chicks I would go to Asia, where the overwhelming variety and ease is the attraction. If I want to go for the pickup of the non-pro and the sweetness of the girls my experience so far is that Cuba offers the best in this area. If I was a unilingual English speaker and wanted something relatively compact and with easy flights I might choose San Jose. Point and shoot I'd go to Sosua. For food, history and daytime activities I'd go to Lima, and so on and so forth. These are of course my perceptions and anyone should feel free to differ. I don't mind, everyone is entitled to their perception and their opinion.

In the vein of what I described above I was kind of hoping to identify what people who love Santo Domingo might define as its greatest value proposition. Something that makes it unique and interesting, or in some way different from other venues. My spanish is essentially fluent for casual, non-technical conversation and I have no problems navigating day to day conversations anywhere, although slang and cultural references must of course be learned in each location, but my point is that meeting and speaking to people isn't an issue. As for my tastes and views of vacation sometimes I enjoy the non-pro chase and sometimes I want someone I can meet and get rid of relatively quickly.

So, from your post I gather that the biggest advantage is the scope of Santo Domingo and the variety it offers in terms of the non-pro experience. Is the ease of flight the difference between going to Santo Domingo, and say going to Lima, Medellin, Rio or some such, where larger scale is available too? I'm not trying to put words in your mouths, so please jump in and correct anything I might be guessing at. I'm genuinely interested in knowing what draws you guys there.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1599926]LOL, I was thinking the same minutes ago, my inference is most do not, there are more important things to spend money as for example internet, cellphones and hair. The lady I am dating has the same problem, but food and mentos, she loves mint, has helped.[/QUOTE]Are you guys fucking serious? Come to think of it I don't think I have ever seen a Dominican woman with toothbrush in hand. I'm trying to think though about the banos in some of my gf's houses. Were there any toothbrushes there besides my own?

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1599926]My advice while waiting for a chica, be a little more patient and find something to do while waiting for her:Remember they spend some time shaving their pussies as [b]some of them have not had sex in the last ten hours[/b], maybe more.[/QUOTE]WTF?

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1599908]The 21 year old (mentioned in the previous post) supposed to show up at 10 did not show up. To make matters worse, she does not even have a phone so I left a message at the website she uses once a while, to say goodbye and that I waited 40 minutes. Then at 12.15, I see her Badoo message flashing on phone. She is there at Parque independencia but had gotten delayed with the babysitting. I told her "sorry".[/QUOTE]I guess she will know next time.

What is the deal with Badoo? I have had the account for years but just started using it in the last couple of months when BoricuaOL brought it up. Since then, I have met in person a couple of Dominicans off of it, and a Russian chick in Sosua. In the last few days I have also met a couple of chicks here in Thailand who hit me up. A couple of weeks ago though it was telling me that my credits were up or I couldn't send anymore emails or something like that. It was saying that I had to invite my friends to try it or pay. Which option have you guys been using, if any besides the totally free one?

GBP and places it like cost 1,000 pesos for one girl and 1,500 pesos for two girls. Sosua does not cost less than that. You can pay 3,000 or more in the capital. But it's not necessary. The capital is a city. One of many many things you can do there that you can't do in Sosua is go to the cinema. There are also museums, a university, different kinds of restaurants, the National Theater, supermarkets and corporate headquarters. I am going to stop now because if I go on I will get sarcastic.

[QUOTE=Talion;1599899]I wasn't so much thinking about missing Sosua, so much as I was wondering what the real draw to Santo Domingo is. I can articulate the draw for most individual places that I go to and so am curious about SDQ. Given the discrepancy in price and the extra hassles involved I know the draw of something must be there, but I don't see it being articulated here in clear terms, and that's what I'm looking for. Why go to SDQ? Increased GFE is definitely a plus, but Filipinas and especially the Cubanas blow Dominicanas away in that respect, so that can't be the only reason. What is it about the city that has attracted you, and what are the areas that are only car accessible that you explored? I totally get why you wouldn't want to be relying on taxis all the time, but if it's just a drive through local areas to see the barrios then a short term cab hire will do that. Are you picking up SW's in the car? I didn't see mention of that in your early reports but I did read about the cop hassles that come with driving (DR is notorious for this, and one good reason for not hiring one) and I must admit that I agree with those posters who said you are courting danger when you engage with them as often as you have. Props to you for good luck and the good results in dealing with them so far, BTW, but it's just a matter of time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Talion;1599929]Thanks for yours and Mr. Gogo's response. I appreciate you taking the time to provide a thoughtful response to my question. I didn't mention the Filipinas or the Cubanas to enter into a "debate". Cebate wasn't the purpose of my question, and they only arose to create contrast and to better frame the question. To put it more clearly if I just wanted to bang chicks I would go to Asia, where the overwhelming variety and ease is the attraction. If I want to go for the pickup of the non-pro and the sweetness of the girls my experience so far is that Cuba offers the best in this area. If I was a unilingual English speaker and wanted something relatively compact and with easy flights I might choose San Jose. Point and shoot I'd go to Sosua. For food, history and daytime activities I'd go to Lima, and so on and so forth. These are of course my perceptions and anyone should feel free to differ. I don't mind, everyone is entitled to their perception and their opinion.[/QUOTE]You keep bringing all these other places into the mix because you have been there and can compare but once again, most people on this thread have only been to DR. You can't really ask a man why he prefers chicken over steak if he has never eaten steak. All he knows is that the chicken is delicious. When I said debate I meant SD vs whatever place, not us arguing over an issue.

[QUOTE=Talion;1599929]In the vein of what I described above I was kind of hoping to identify what people who love Santo Domingo might define as its greatest value proposition. Something that makes it unique and interesting, or in some way different from other venues. My spanish is essentially fluent for casual, non-technical conversation and I have no problems navigating day to day conversations anywhere, although slang and cultural references must of course be learned in each location, but my point is that meeting and speaking to people isn't an issue. As for my tastes and views of vacation sometimes I enjoy the non-pro chase and sometimes I want someone I can meet and get rid of relatively quickly.

So, from your post I gather that the biggest advantage is the scope of Santo Domingo and the variety it offers in terms of the non-pro experience. Is the ease of flight the difference between going to Santo Domingo, and say going to Lima, Medellin, Rio or some such, where larger scale is available too? I'm not trying to put words in your mouths, so please jump in and correct anything I might be guessing at. I'm genuinely interested in knowing what draws you guys there.[/QUOTE]Maybe I misread. From your original post I thought you wanted to know why Santo Domingo over Sosua. Now it seems you want to know why Santo Domingo over big cities in other countries. Many people on this thread live in the US and take short trips so the proximity and price of Santo Domingo is better than going all the way to Rio or elsewhere. Remember that for the US citizens, if we go to Cuba then we have to sneak and go through a third country to get there. Others like the soul and flavor that Santo Domingo has to offer. In Lima you are not going to find Peruanitas shaking their big round asses to Merengue music. And most of the year Lima is quite cold anyway. Rio is just too damn expensive these days. 10 years ago only Thailand could come close to Rio. I have not been to Rio in about 4 years. I had a trip planned for next month, but my ex-girlfriend warned me to just forget about it for now. I have been to many cities in Colombia, but Medellin is not one of them.

In a recent post I did state though what separates DR from the others is it's down home feel. Whereas the other places will give off a New York if you don't know a stranger then do not speak to them vibe, DR is totally opposite. You can walk up to anyone at anytime in DR and have a conversation with them. It is laid back. On top of that you can be riding down the street in DR and see a chick walking. You can pull over and she will get right into the car with you. Half of the time you can take her to the motel from there. If she does not have a man, then you will for sure exchange contact info with her. That shit is just not going to happen in any of the other places you mentioned.

I agree with Mr. E and Gogo about going to Santo Domingo. E said rent a car you have too and Gogo said you have to have some game and speak some Spainish. I do not talk a lot any more as I do not want to fight with anyone just want to be helpful, but it never seems to work. Not sure if this is my last post, but here are my thoughts. First, the problem with people coming to Santo Domingo is they have a terrible plan, which results in failure and disappointment a lot of times. To think you will come to Santo Domingo, hire a driver to take you around you limit yourself because that cost can get expensive. Also, you do not know what will be good or not and sometimes you need trial and error. So, what happens is you just hang around the capital area hoping to pull a hot chick or you go to the strip clubs and overpay. Not a good plan. As Gogo said, you need to learn Spanish and move around and as Mr. E said rent a car to keep costs low. I wrote a piece a while back on driving around and I very rarely get stopped. Also, Santo Domingo is huge area there are so many places to go, but the problem is people come to the capital have a driver take them to what they know and that is it. If that is the plan, it is better for you to go to Sousa. There is nightlife all over the city where you can me hot chicks just being cool and presentable, but that is all on you. Santo Domingo is not for everyone.

Now let me say one more thing about the police. People have said it on this board. Be careful and some people have not really taken their concern seriously. Their is a great series people should watch called the "Wire" it is about the drug game in Baltimore and all the corruption and crime that comes with it.

In one episode, this guy has his name as the owner of the drug bosses strip club, but he gets mad that he feels he can make more money and decides to start selling drugs. Long story short, he gets caught by undercover police and is taken to jail. Now, the corrupt lawyer who works for the drug boss tells the guy you need to sign the backdated ownership over of the club now as he sits in jail because strip club owners cannot have criminal records. The guy say's no he will not sign he say's what do I get for signing and the lawyer looks at him and say's you want me to tell the drug boss you will not sign over ownership of the club as you sit here in jail. He quickly realizes he better sign now or he will be killed in jail. He signs. As the lawyer leaves he says a great line "you wanted to be in the game now you're in the game". The point I making here never play cops for fools. Who is the say they do not wait until you leave your hotel and walk down the street and decide to search you and say we just found this package of cocaine on you. Now you will argue not mine and they will say yes it is and take you to jail. Now you will get to jail and they will give you one chance to pay them some huge amount and you will refuse because you will stick to your morals and are cheap and think you can get out of it. What you do not know is once you are arrested you do not have to see a judge for 90 days, but you argue and say you want to call the embassy and they say okay maybe a couple days later you are allowed to make a phone call. Embassy tells you sorry for your problem we can give you a couple of Lawyers to talk too. Now the lawyer tells you he can get you out just needs a big down payment of course less than the cops are offering. You agree. Now you get to court for the first time, and low and behold the prostitute who you did not pay in the hotel room is there and she says to the judge you did not pay for her services and you also have a drug charge against you. Now tell me who is the judge going to believe you or the police and you do not speak Spanish. The judge orders you back to jail for another 90 days. Player you do not know the game do not try to play it and fight with the police you will lose badly. I know I seen people in jail who thought they knew the game. People on the board keep warning you but you're not listening. Player trust me it will end badly for you Punta Cana police are tourist friendly other places are not.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1599941]What is the deal with Badoo? [/QUOTE]I have used that since 2011 (paid). I do not use that any longer I. E. , use the free service and then convert to whatsapp etc. The Pimentel girl was like that. I got to know her on Monday from home and Friday, I was in the cabana with her. Of course, I also had a similar situation in SD, that turned out to be a no show. But then she contacted me again. Go figure.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1599936]Are you guys fucking serious? Come to think of it I don't think I have ever seen a Dominican woman with toothbrush in hand. ?

WTF?[/QUOTE]Well, one reason why I like to choose women not off the streets in Sosua is that I like to kiss and women if they feel the closeness kiss with abandon. However until this trip, I have not had this sensation. The woman who came to stay the night in SD on Thursday had many things in her bag. Clothes and shoes but no toothbrush and so I noticed that. It again happened with the Pimentel women so suddenly, I am like. WTF. I also remember a girl who stayed the night in Santiago and she specifically picked a brush as we went to Supermercado central for dinner.

By the way, suddenly the SD thread is showing signs of life. What gives?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1599941]
What is the deal with Badoo? I have had the account for years but just started using it in the last couple of months when BoricuaOL brought it up. Since then, I have met in person a couple of Dominicans off of it, and a Russian chick in Sosua. In the last few days I have also met a couple of chicks here in Thailand who hit me up. A couple of weeks ago though it was telling me that my credits were up or I couldn't send anymore emails or something like that. It was saying that I had to invite my friends to try it or pay. Which option have you guys been using, if any besides the totally free one?[/QUOTE]Don't know how it works from outside the US, but Badoo is a ripoff site. The reason they want you to "invite your friends" (for credits) is so they can collect the email addresses and sell the information.

They only allow you to contact so many people in one day. If you hit that limit, you have to buy credits in order to break that rule. It's the same thing even if you pay money. I once did the one month for the "Super Powers" package and they still limited the amount of people I could contact in one day and told me I would have to buy credits if I wanted to exceed the daily limit. On top of that, those fuckers tried charging my card (recurring charge) for another month even though I cancelled the subscription beforehand via Paypal. Hell, Paypal couldn't even get ahold of them to ask why they charged me for another month, so Paypal refunded the money to my card and dealt with them from their end.

FYI: if there is an option to pay for one of these foreign dating sites like DC or Badoo using Paypal, ALWAYS use the Paypal option because they will get your money back for you if you every have any problems with the website subscription. Most of these sites will automatically have your shit on a recurring monthly charge unless you contact them to cancel it. But if you do it via Paypal, you can just log into your Paypal account and cancel the subscription from there. That way if the website tries to dispute you doing so, Paypal will have a record of you doing so on their end.

SavePros thanks for being the guinea pig. I learned about the recurring charges this past time around on DC. Previously when I had gotten the one month deal then it was turned off after that. However last March when my month was over it was still going strong in April. Then I saw the new charge on my card. Then I went to the site and saw they had it on recurring. Figure if I wanted that wouldn't I just get the 3 month which is cheaper than 2 1 months. I wrote to let them know I only wanted 1 month but it charged my card again. I never heard back from them so I unchecked the recurring and rode my extra month out like a boss. Lesson learned.

You make good points about poor planning. You can not go to SD unprepared. Where you stay where you go all determines how much fun you have.

Mr E practically lives in the DR so car is not an option it is a requirement. I have rented a car in SD and will not do it again. The traffic in SD is insane and because often we do not know how get anywhere makes it even more dangerous, I Use cabs often the same driver. Being worried how to find locations is stressful. Speaking Spanish in SD is not an option it is a requirement. The locals speak zero English. Having a fender bender in the DR could turn into a nitemare very fast. I do not think it is worth the risk. SD is a crap shoot sometimes. I do not enjoy brothels although GBP looks like great deal. I keep some nice working girls numbers for back up. It cost way to much money to be striking out so sure things can save the day.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1600002]SavePros thanks for being the guinea pig. I learned about the recurring charges this past time around on DC. Previously when I had gotten the one month deal then it was turned off after that. However last March when my month was over it was still going strong in April. Then I saw the new charge on my card. Then I went to the site and saw they had it on recurring. Figure if I wanted that wouldn't I just get the 3 month which is cheaper than 2 1 months. I wrote to let them know I only wanted 1 month but it charged my card again. I never heard back from them so I unchecked the recurring and rode my extra month out like a boss. Lesson learned.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if it has changed recently or not, but the 3 month, 6 month, or 12 months memberships do not auto-renew. At least they did not in the past.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1600013]You make good points about poor planning. You can not go to SD unprepared. Where you stay where you go all determines how much fun you have.

Mr E practically lives in the DR so car is not an option it is a requirement. I have rented a car in SD and will not do it again. The traffic in SD is insane and because often we do not know how get anywhere makes it even more dangerous, I Use cabs often the same driver. Being worried how to find locations is stressful. Speaking Spanish in SD is not an option it is a requirement. The locals speak zero English. Having a fender bender in the DR could turn into a nitemare very fast. I do not think it is worth the risk. SD is a crap shoot sometimes. I do not enjoy brothels although GBP looks like great deal. I keep some nice working girls numbers for back up. It cost way to much money to be striking out so sure things can save the day.[/QUOTE]Old kool always respected your game. You having a driver is different as you have hot chicks coming to see you and you always have a good plan. You are always respectful to women and treat them well more people should learn that approach that is why the women you hang with love you and always are happy to see you and never screw you over. Now that is real game. People have to understand some people do not have bad stories. there is a reason they are smart and choose women wisely. Not to say it cannot happen but a lot can go wrong picking up a sw late at night. I just want people to have fun and be safe and not make stupid mistakes or have confrontations for no reason - not worth it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1599950]You keep bringing all these other places into the mix because you have been there and can compare but once again, most people on this thread have only been to DR. You can't really ask a man why he prefers chicken over steak if he has never eaten steak. All he knows is that the chicken is delicious. When I said debate I meant SD vs whatever place, not us arguing over an issue.

Maybe I misread. From your original post I thought you wanted to know why Santo Domingo over Sosua. Now it seems you want to know why Santo Domingo over big cities in other countries. Many people on this thread live in the US and take short trips so the proximity and price of Santo Domingo is better than going all the way to Rio or elsewhere. Remember that for the US citizens, if we go to Cuba then we have to sneak and go through a third country to get there. Others like the soul and flavor that Santo Domingo has to offer. In Lima you are not going to find Peruanitas shaking their big round asses to Merengue music. And most of the year Lima is quite cold anyway. Rio is just too damn expensive these days. 10 years ago only Thailand could come close to Rio. I have not been to Rio in about 4 years. I had a trip planned for next month, but my ex-girlfriend warned me to just forget about it for now. I have been to many cities in Colombia, but Medellin is not one of them.

In a recent post I did state though what separates DR from the others is it's down home feel. Whereas the other places will give off a New York if you don't know a stranger then do not speak to them vibe, DR is totally opposite. You can walk up to anyone at anytime in DR and have a conversation with them. It is laid back. On top of that you can be riding down in DR and see a chick walking. You can pull over and she will get right into the car with you. Half of the time you can take her to the motel from there. If she does not have a man, then you will for sure exchange contact info with her. That shit is just not going to happen in any of the other places you mentioned.[/QUOTE]Thanks again, and you make a valid point about comparisons relativ to your knowledge base of places, but again that wasn't why I mentioned the others, which I did once again to frame the question. It would appear that the value proposition you describe is a variety of chicas open to the experience of casual meetings with foreigners and still in a big city environment. That's a good thing, and I understand that. Thanks again for the thoughtful response.

My world view changes with each new place I visit, but I can still examine each individual place based on its own merits. Every place has its own advantages and disadvantages, as well as it's own flavour. You don't have to have been to a lot of different places to appreciate the one you're in. Travelling widely brings a different perspective, but doesn't diminish your stop in any particular city. I appreciate your feedback and your viewpoint, so thanks.

Now, completely outside out the question, and as an actual comparison this time, your last statement about not having women jump into a strange car and just go with you in any place other than th DR is incorrect, as Cubanas will also go with you at the drop of a hat if they're so inclined. It makes Cuba a wonderful place to visit as well.

I look forward to my visit to Santo Domingo, and if you're around I'd be happy to meet up and buy you (and anyone else around) a beer or two to say thanks.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1599980]Don't know how it works from outside the US, but Badoo is a ripoff site. The reason they want you to "invite your friends" (for credits) is so they can collect the email addresses and sell the information.

They only allow you to contact so many people in one day. If you hit that limit, you have to buy credits in order to break that rule. It's the same thing even if you pay money. I once did the one month for the "Super Powers" package and they still limited the amount of people I could contact in one day and told me I would have to buy credits if I wanted to exceed the daily limit. On top of that, those fuckers tried charging my card (recurring charge) for another month even though I cancelled the subscription beforehand via Paypal. Hell, Paypal couldn't even get ahold of them to ask why they charged me for another month, so Paypal refunded the money to my card and dealt with them from their end.

FYI: if there is an option to pay for one of these foreign dating sites like DC or Badoo using Paypal, ALWAYS use the Paypal option because they will get your money back for you if you every have any problems with the website subscription. Most of these sites will automatically have your shit on a recurring monthly charge unless you contact them to cancel it. But if you do it via Paypal, you can just log into your Paypal account and cancel the subscription from there. That way if the website tries to dispute you doing so, Paypal will have a record of you doing so on their end.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1600002]SavePros thanks for being the guinea pig. I learned about the recurring charges this past time around on DC. Previously when I had gotten the one month deal then it was turned off after that. However last March when my month was over it was still going strong in April. Then I saw the new charge on my card. Then I went to the site and saw they had it on recurring. Figure if I wanted that wouldn't I just get the 3 month which is cheaper than 2 1 months. I wrote to let them know I only wanted 1 month but it charged my card again. I never heard back from them so I unchecked the recurring and rode my extra month out like a boss. Lesson learned.[/QUOTE]For bringing this up. I forgot about the warning from Dom Cupid that I needed to contact the website to make sure the recurring charge doesn't take place. I just checked my DC account. That sub terminates 8/20. I would have been pissed at myself for missing the recurring charge date. In the DR, pussy all around me, and paying for a sub I don't currently need.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1600014]I'm not sure if it has changed recently or not, but the 3 month, 6 month, or 12 months memberships do not auto-renew. At least they did not in the past.[/QUOTE]It has changed recently. I currently have a 3 month sub with DC. Auto renew is now set automatically. You have to go into your account and change the billing. I just did mine. When I'm ready for another sub, I will get it when its most advantageous for me

My next preference is to sign up when I am already in country or soon to be. That way if she is real cute I can set up a meeting quickly. The guy right there in country trumps the guy talking to the same chica for weeks or months before he can get anywhere near the juice.

You guys don't need those Internet dating services. You can do just as well asking a friend's girl to introduce you to one of her friends. You can even describe the kind of girl you like. Forget about those web sites.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1600309]For bringing this up. I forgot about the warning from Dom Cupid that I needed to contact the website to make sure the recurring charge doesn't take place. I just checked my DC account. That sub terminates 8/20. I would have been pissed at myself for missing the recurring charge date. In the DR, pussy all around me, and paying for a sub I don't currently need.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1600366]You guys don't need those Internet dating services. You can do just as well asking a friend's girl to introduce you to one of her friends. You can even describe the kind of girl you like. Forget about those web sites.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely correct in my regard. I do not need a dating service / website. However, I use and enjoy dating services / websites. I like the convenience of them. I don't think anybody here said they needed them, or that they haven't already had a friend to have a girl introduce other girls? I've done that many times. Them for me, and me for them. Dating websites / services exposes one to a lot more choices and places to visit than simply relying on a friends girl. Why limit myself to relying on a friends girl, when I can use any and all options that gets the job done?

As for daytime action here are some options.

Slip on me (needs previous reservation) but operates during the day.

Gbp opens at 3:00.

Call service pm me but will cost 5000.

There is a place in Nunez de Caceres almost Kennedy second floor similar to gbp.

If you are really freaky and nasty SW's on malecon on the way to the motels usually around Reina motel cheap but not very good looking.

Internet sites are great if you have the time. I have been seeing my SAme DC cupid girls for over 3 years. They are my sure things. Once the sport fucking is out of my system it is nice to have GFE and great good morning sex. SD is a crap shoot because I do not do casas. I have had some excellent times with SD SWs. I have the numbers of a few who provided good service. My challenge is deciding which girls on the roster to pull the trigger. I not a full time novio so my chicas need to understand that, The site lets you meet and vet girls for your trip. Most are not hardcore girls but it is good to be able to break the ice before you meet. I really enjoy this hobby and spend time to make the trips great.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1600366]You guys don't need those Internet dating services. You can do just as well asking a friend's girl to introduce you to one of her friends. You can even describe the kind of girl you like. Forget about those web sites.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1599914]SD is a monger killer as I found out on my first two trips. Luckily two vets who no longer post on this board (Jao and Bq) took me under their wing and showed me all the secrets of la capital. SD and Cuba are running neck to neck as my future retirement home.

Once SD is opened to you then you will understand what few who have the patience now know. SD is not a quick hit, most likely it will get you if you are rushed. It has every amenity that big American cities have.

With the outter towns to draw from, you have an endless supply of fine ladies to draw from. But you better have your game tight when hunting in SD otherwise you will be headed to the airport crying for Sosua.[/QUOTE]Wow Mr Gogo I thought you switched over to the West. And you caught up with Bq. That brother is always moving I am still waiting for my returned call LOL. I agree -you can't go to SD thinking its like Sosua. My boys learned the hard way. There are not many dimes SW in SD. They are either in the "strip clubs" or gone to Sosua away from home. You must have a game plan in SD. I say the place is great for importing chicas you met from other area of the DR. OLSKOOL said it first! There are many chicas available but if you have been use to pointing and clicking you better have a change up style in SD.

[QUOTE=ElTremendo;1600523]As for daytime action here are some options.



There is a place in Nunez de Caceres almost Kennedy second floor similar to gbp.

.[/QUOTE]Pink Pony, 1,500 and 2000, I chat once on Badoo with a girl that works there, she was very cute.

You can get it for less when there are more girls than mongers, especially daytime and weekdays - 1,000 to 1,500.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1600892]Pink Pony, 1,500 and 2000, I chat once on Badoo with a girl that works there, she was very cute.[/QUOTE]

In my opinion Sosua is a dump. Although everyone has there own taste in woman my two times there I did not see one that rated above a 5. The main strip with the bars is like a freak show. SD is much better, more resteraunts more clubs more options. Its more spread out but that's half the fun trekking it from club to club. Its classier in SD and the GFE in Sosua is non existent. The whole town can be done in about 10 minutes. I think the SD experience is more interesting and a much better time will be had for maybe a few dollars more.

ON a side note has anyone been to Jarabacoba in the mountains. They have a white water rafting trip I wanted to try. I'm told its 2 hours by car from the city.

Thanks.

I am five weeks from being in SD. Booked my flight 3 days in SD and 2 days in Sosua. I am very excited. The hard part is weeding out potential bed mates. I have old novia and other chicas I maintain contact with. As well as some SWs who performed well. Doing Thursday and Friday in SD. The clubs and discos are hopping. Sosua every night is Friday night.

Hi!

I will be in Santo Domingo in September, and I'm looking for a good guest friendly hotel close to Colonial area and Malecon. Can you tell me a good place? (max 150 $ / night). I will have my car, so no problem for transport .

Last time I was in Santo Domingo, I tried Sliponme massage, it was a great experience, do you kno if there new good girl in this place?

La.

Palacio is just under 100 a night. It is girl friendly right in the heart of th colonial zone everything you need is a short walk. They have great breakfast buffet that made me get out of bed. Has small pool and gym. I have many fond memories of the place.

[QUOTE=Nhyx69;1601357]Hi!

I will be in Santo Domingo in September, and I'm looking for a good guest friendly hotel close to Colonial area and Malecon. Can you tell me a good place? (max 150 $ / night). I will have my car, so no problem for transport .

Last time I was in Santo Domingo, I tried Sliponme massage, it was a great experience, do you kno if there new good girl in this place?[/QUOTE]

Thanks you, I'll find it in Internet, it looks good!

[QUOTE=OldKool;1601552]La.

Palacio is just under 100 a night. It is girl friendly right in the heart of th colonial zone everything you need is a short walk. They have great breakfast buffet that made me get out of bed. Has small pool and gym. I have many fond memories of the place.[/QUOTE]

The Palacio is just what you're looking for. I stayed there last week and everything was great although the Conde is not what it used to be for chicas. The Palacio sometimes has a special rate on Expedia. Check that out to save some money.

[QUOTE=Nhyx69;1601691]Thanks you, I'll find it in Internet, it looks good![/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1599950]You keep bringing all these other places into the mix because you have been there and can compare but once again, most people on this thread have only been to DR. You can't really ask a man why he prefers chicken over steak if he has never eaten steak. All he knows is that the chicken is delicious. When I said debate I meant SD vs whatever place, not us arguing over an issue.

Maybe I misread. From your original post I thought you wanted to know why Santo Domingo over Sosua. Now it seems you want to know why Santo Domingo over big cities in other countries. Many people on this thread live in the US and take short trips so the proximity and price of Santo Domingo is better than going all the way to Rio or elsewhere. Remember that for the US citizens, if we go to Cuba then we have to sneak and go through a third country to get there. Others like the soul and flavor that Santo Domingo has to offer. In Lima you are not going to find Peruanitas shaking their big round asses to Merengue music. And most of the year Lima is quite cold anyway. Rio is just too damn expensive these days. 10 years ago only Thailand could come close to Rio. I have not been to Rio in about 4 years. I had a trip planned for next month, but my ex-girlfriend warned me to just forget about it for now. I have been to many cities in Colombia, but Medellin is not one of them.

In a recent post I did state though what separates DR from the others is it's down home feel. Whereas the other places will give off a New York if you don't know a stranger then do not speak to them vibe, DR is totally opposite. You can walk up to anyone at anytime in DR and have a conversation with them. It is laid back. On top of that you can be riding down the street in DR and see a chick walking. You can pull over and she will get right into the car with you. Half of the time you can take her to the motel from there. If she does not have a man, then you will for sure exchange contact info with her. That shit is just not going to happen in any of the other places you mentioned.[/QUOTE]The Dominican Republic is very low on my scale of mongering destinations. Much of what I will say though is a matter of personal taste. I find in terms of looks the chicas are less beautiful than those in most other Latin American destinations. I find the service level of those chicas the worst in Latin America. I would agree with another poster that Sosua is a dump. Santo Domingo is hot, with terrible traffic and very difficult to navigate. The taxis are a ripoff and not as available as taxis should be. And I could go on and on. The only advantage that it has going for it is its proximity to the US. Lazy mongers take advantage of the short flight without being aware that its proximity to the US causes it to be more expensive than other Latin American destinations with the exception of Rio and possibly Panama. A two week and more mongering trip to many other Latin American cities will cost much less than a similar trip to Santo Domingo from any part of the US. To me it's a no brainer.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1602087] I would agree with another poster that Sosua is a dump. [/QUOTE]Having lived in Sosua for a couple of years, I really cannot agree that Sosua is a dump. Compared to what? Miami, New York? Sosua is a pleasant little town with nice beaches, access to adequate medical services and schools, supermarkets, numerous restaurants, close to an international airport, and a number of nice residential places to live some of which have pleasant breezes in the summertime and a mild climate in the winter, meaning that indoor heating is virtually never necessary. Real estate prices are very reasonable, for example for $1000 per month you can rent a very nice apartment that would cost $2000 or $3000 for an equivalent in Florida or New York, and there is wireless Internet access that has recently been much improved, plus cable TV with 200 channels for a very modest sum.

You can also find an unlimited supply of young attractive women to have sex with for a very modest fee. Of course if you are not sexually attracted to women of color, then this would not apply.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1602101]Having lived in Sosua for a couple of years, I really cannot agree that Sosua is a dump. Compared to what? Miami, New York? Sosua is a pleasant little town with nice beaches, access to adequate medical services and schools, supermarkets, numerous restaurants, close to an international airport, and a number of nice residential places to live some of which have pleasant breezes in the summertime and a mild climate in the winter, meaning that indoor heating is virtually never necessary. Real estate prices are very reasonable, for example for $1000 per month you can rent a very nice apartment that would cost $2000 or $3000 for an equivalent in Florida or New York, and there is wireless Internet access that has recently been much improved, plus cable TV with 200 channels for a very modest sum.

You can also find an unlimited supply of young attractive women to have sex with for a very modest fee. Of course if you are not sexually attracted to women of color, then this would not apply.[/QUOTE]I do like women of color but the women who provide p4 p in Sosua are not a representative sample of women of color. I believe that if you are not good looking you should at least provide good service which I found to be lacking in Sosua barring the Haitians who seem to be not as available as before. Sosua fares very low in comparison to similar mongering destinations. The beach and seaside activities around Sosua are quite pleasant though.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1602101]Having lived in Sosua for a couple of years, I really cannot agree that Sosua is a dump. Compared to what? Miami, New York? Sosua is a pleasant little town with nice beaches, access to adequate medical services and schools, supermarkets, numerous restaurants, close to an international airport, and a number of nice residential places to live some of which have pleasant breezes in the summertime and a mild climate in the winter, meaning that indoor heating is virtually never necessary. Real estate prices are very reasonable, for example for $1000 per month you can rent a very nice apartment that would cost $2000 or $3000 for an equivalent in Florida or New York, and there is wireless Internet access that has recently been much improved, plus cable TV with 200 channels for a very modest sum.

You can also find an unlimited supply of young attractive women to have sex with for a very modest fee. Of course if you are not sexually attracted to women of color, then this would not apply.[/QUOTE]OK, but what beach resorts in the region have similar amenities and cost of living and yet make Sosua look like a "dump" by comparison? Just curious. And have large number of FREELANCE chicas roaming around? Not as many places as you might think. OK, the standard of paid sex may not be so good these days in Sosua. I don't do much mongering these days, and maybe I am just lucky when I do, but I think one can still find attractive girls with good personalities, and if they are not experts in sex, then you just have to teach them. I can think of worse ways to pass the time.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1602153]OK, but what beach resorts in the region have similar amenities and cost of living and yet make Sosua look like a "dump" by comparison? Just curious. And have large number of FREELANCE chicas roaming around? Not as many places as you might think. OK, the standard of paid sex may not be so good these days in Sosua. I don't do much mongering these days, and maybe I am just lucky when I do, but I think one can still find attractive girls with good personalities, and if they are not experts in sex, then you just have to teach them. I can think of worse ways to pass the time.[/QUOTE]I used the word 'dump' a little loosely. I mean a mongering dump. For me the beach is the only thing that makes Sosua a viable destination. I have had this discussion before on the Sosua board and it may just be that I am extremely unlucky with DR chicas, I have had particularly bad sessions in Sosua with DR providers and was told it is because I do not have game. Well, I save my game for the non pros and believe that my money should be enough to get me reasonable service. In terms of the looks of the ladies I cannot think of any pros in the region (Latin America that is) that the Sosua chicas are better looking than. Don't get me wrong the DR has hot ladies but they do not seem to do p4 p.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1602087]The Dominican Republic is very low on my scale of mongering destinations. Much of what I will say though is a matter of personal taste. I find in terms of looks the chicas are less beautiful than those in most other Latin American destinations. I find the service level of those chicas the worst in Latin America. I would agree with another poster that Sosua is a dump. Santo Domingo is hot, with terrible traffic and very difficult to navigate. The taxis are a ripoff and not as available as taxis should be. And I could go on and on. The only advantage that it has going for it is its proximity to the US. Lazy mongers take advantage of the short flight without being aware that its proximity to the US causes it to be more expensive than other Latin American destinations with the exception of Rio and possibly Panama. A two week and more mongering trip to many other Latin American cities will cost much less than a similar trip to Santo Domingo from any part of the US. To me it's a no brainer.[/QUOTE]Have to agree with you in just about every sense. Although, I did get hooked up with a semi-pro who I would hook up with as long as I wanted her to stay. In that situation, it was a prime destination. When she called a cab, it was 1/3 what I would have to pay. Overall, having been to Costa Rica, Colombia and Panama, the DR women are a bit rougher and definitely darker.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1602087] The only advantage that it has going for it is its proximity to the US. Lazy mongers take advantage of the short flight without being aware that its proximity to the US causes it to be more expensive than other Latin American destinations with the exception of Rio and possibly Panama.

A two week and more mongering trip to many other Latin American cities will cost much less than a similar trip to Santo Domingo from any part of the US. To me it's a no brainer.[/QUOTE]First, I respect your opinion, however you are throwing stones or lip without support. Take it; I am trying to feel you- but you mention "a two week and more. Many other Latin American cites will cost much less" yet you give no examples. If you are not one of those "Lazy mongers" please enlighten us more. Or maybe Nixonbd can help since he agrees in just about every sense. Except for the 1 chica that made him change the DR to a prime destination. You have my attention Sir.

I have spent time in SD it offers a wide range of accommodation s. I have seen $30 a night. I prefer women of color so the DR is my honey pot. I also love dancing and music which is popular with Dr women. As far cost I think Sd is very affordable. I fly in for $400 and spend 100 $ a day for everything else. I fuck and eat like a mad man.

If you can show respect your opinion, however you are throwing stones or lip without support. Take it; I am trying to feel you- but you mention "a two week and more. Many other Latin American cites will cost much less" yet you give no examples. If you are not one of those "Lazy mongers" please enlighten.

I don't think you enjoy urban environments.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1602087]The Dominican Republic is very low on my scale of mongering destinations. Much of what I will say though is a matter of personal taste. I find in terms of looks the chicas are less beautiful than those in most other Latin American destinations. I find the service level of those chicas the worst in Latin America. I would agree with another poster that Sosua is a dump. Santo Domingo is hot, with terrible traffic and very difficult to navigate. The taxis are a ripoff and not as available as taxis should be. And I could go on and on. The only advantage that it has going for it is its proximity to the US. Lazy mongers take advantage of the short flight without being aware that its proximity to the US causes it to be more expensive than other Latin American destinations with the exception of Rio and possibly Panama. A two week and more mongering trip to many other Latin American cities will cost much less than a similar trip to Santo Domingo from any part of the US. To me it's a no brainer.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;1602258]I used the word 'dump' a little loosely. I mean a mongering dump. For me the beach is the only thing that makes Sosua a viable destination. I have had this discussion before on the Sosua board and it may just be that I am extremely unlucky with DR chicas, I have had particularly bad sessions in Sosua with DR providers and was told it is because I do not have game. Well, I save my game for the non pros and believe that my money should be enough to get me reasonable service. In terms of the looks of the ladies I cannot think of any pros in the region (Latin America that is) that the Sosua chicas are better looking than. Don't get me wrong the DR has hot ladies but they do not seem to do p4 p.[/QUOTE]Can you suggest a few small towns in the region where there are large numbers of young freelance women looking to meet foreigners?

[QUOTE=Turgid;1602258]I used the word 'dump' a little loosely. I mean a unluckyng dump. For me the beach is the only thing that makes Sosua a viable destination. I have had this discussion before on the Sosua board and it may just be that I am extremely unlucky with DR chicas, I have had particularly bad sessions in Sosua with DR providers and was told it is because I do not have game. Well, I save my game for the non pros and believe that my money should be enough to get me reasonable service. In terms of the looks of the ladies I cannot think of any pros in the region (Latin America that is) that the Sosua chicas are better looking than. Don't get me wrong the DR has hot ladies but they do not seem to do p4 p.[/QUOTE]Another man's trash is another man's treasure. Its not that you have been unlucky maybe you need to work on your skills. When you have been in this game for a while you can start to pick up on which ones will provide good service or not. You sound like an amateur to me. I don't know I'm just saying. We all have had bad sessions but after a while when you become seasoned it happens less. Thats because you learn how to pick them! Read the signs man don't point the finger.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1602258] I have had particularly bad sessions in Sosua with DR providers and was told it is because I do not have game. Well, I save my game for the non pros and believe that my money should be enough to get me reasonable service.

(You save your game for the non pros? You feel your money is enough and no skills should be required. Shame on you! And you call some of us lazy! Ok your style to skin your cat- I respect that. To me - the non pros are not the ones seriously gaming on you- the semi and pros are more likely to run game.)

In terms of the looks of the ladies I cannot think of any pros in the region (Latin America that is) that the Sosua chicas are better looking than. Don't get me wrong the DR has hot ladies but they do not seem to do p4 p.[/QUOTE]I don't know much about other Latin America regions but far as the DR- I agree with you. However, I ever heard anyone made the assertion that Sosua had the better looking chicas. (I have heard and agree Santiago hands down!) Specially when most of the chicas in Sosua come from SD. Sosua has the most freelance Dominican and Haitian semi and pro puta per square mile for p4p in the DR. That just my opinion. Mr. E, Camaro, Manny1, Mr Gogo, Turgid or anyone else who travel to other area in Latin America frequently; please share with the board an area within a 3 to 8 hour (2 and a half for me) plane ride that pound for pound competes with the DR.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1602308]I have spent time in SD it offers a wide range of accommodation s. I have seen $30 a night. I prefer women of color so the DR is my honey pot. I also love dancing and music which is popular with Dr women. As far cost I think Sd is very affordable. I fly in for $400 and spend 100 $ a day for everything else. I fuck and eat like a mad man.

If you can show respect your opinion, however you are throwing stones or lip without support. Take it; I am trying to feel you- but you mention "a two week and more. Many other Latin American cites will cost much less" yet you give no examples. If you are not one of those "Lazy mongers" please enlighten.[/QUOTE]First off I would admit that taste in women is subjective and for me the women of the destinations I will give are hotter than DR women. Perfect example is Medellin from which I have just returned. The $50 per day hotel in which I stayed (Estadio Real) will cost more than twice that for the equivalent in SDQ. I would rate the women of New Life casa (I paid US $20 per half hour. I did 1/2 hr sessions there) as hot as the women of Casa Teresa (US $100 per hr- no option for 1/2 hr here). Food is cheaper in MDE, Taxis are everywhere, metered and cheap, you do not have to wait as long as 5 minutes for a taxi here). Only the airfare is more expensive. Having been to both destinations it costs me cheaper to go to Medellin than SDQ for a 2 week plus trip. SDQ has no equivalent to the chicas of Energy and Abydos, not to speak of the MDE escorts and the clubs. San Salvador, Nicaragua, Guatemala to me have hotter chicas giving better service and is cheaper for me. I usually go to Venezuela when I'm in Trinidad for work and get cheap flights there. I have been to Argentina for many three week trips and have spent less overall than I would to DR, not to mention my many trips to Tijuana since the 70's.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1602381]Can you suggest a few small towns in the region where there are large numbers of young freelance women looking to meet foreigners?[/QUOTE]What's the advantage of small towns? They do nothing for me. I actually prefer the anonymity of cities. Its not so obvious what you are there for. For persons who like the quality of Sosua women and who like the intimacy of a small town then I would think that Sosua would be good for them. I would repeat again I love dark skinned women. If some of the women I see walking the streets of SDQ would do p4 p I would happily pay the extra cost to monger there. Anyway, Curacao, St. Martin and Aruba can be said to be small towns with large numbers of pros. To me the women of Sosua are pros and are no different from pros in other destinations.

[QUOTE=MRwell;1602534]Another man's trash is another man's treasure. Its not that you have been unlucky maybe you need to work on your skills. When you have been in this game for a while you can start to pick up on which ones will provide good service or not. You sound like an amateur to me. I don't know I'm just saying. We all have had bad sessions but after a while when you become seasoned it happens less. Thats because you learn how to pick them! Read the signs man don't point the finger.[/QUOTE]If you are under 40 I have been in this business before you were born. I get excellent service in every of the 50 plus destinations I go to except the DR and India. The latter being much worse than the DR. You can check my past posts. I will do the same with your posts.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1602601]I don't know much about other Latin America regions but far as the DR- I agree with you. However, I ever heard anyone made the assertion that Sosua had the better looking chicas. (I have heard and agree Santiago hands down!) Specially when most of the chicas in Sosua come from SD. Sosua has the most freelance Dominican and Haitian semi and pro puta per square mile for p4p in the DR. That just my opinion. Mr. E, Camaro, Manny1, Mr Gogo, Turgid or anyone else who travel to other area in Latin America frequently; please share with the board an area within a 3 to 8 hour (2 and a half for me) plane ride that pound for pound competes with the DR.[/QUOTE]For me every other major Latin American destination. If I found the women of Sosua attractive and got good service from them it would definitely be one of my favorite destinations. For those of you for whom that is your experience you are fortunate, enjoy.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1602601]I don't know much about other Latin America regions but far as the DR- I agree with you. However, I ever heard anyone made the assertion that Sosua had the better looking chicas. (I have heard and agree Santiago hands down!) Specially when most of the chicas in Sosua come from SD. Sosua has the most freelance Dominican and Haitian semi and pro puta per square mile for p4p in the DR. That just my opinion. Mr. E, Camaro, Manny1, Mr Gogo, Turgid or anyone else who travel to other area in Latin America frequently; please share with the board an area within a 3 to 8 hour (2 and a half for me) plane ride that pound for pound competes with the DR.[/QUOTE]I have been to most of the Latin American PFP destinations in the Western Hemisphere and agree that Sosua currently provides the best bang for the buck however that is subject to change if the government continues its crackdown. The interesting thing is that I have met Dominicanas in Costa Rica, Panama and as far away as Argentina so they get around. As far as Sosua talent goes you generally won't see high end Santiago types simply because of Sosua's reputation and the fact is they can make more money elsewhere than what the average budget monger wants to pay.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1602637]For me every other major Latin American destination. If I found the women of Sosua attractive and got good service from them it would definitely be one of my favorite destinations. For those of you for whom that is your experience you are fortunate, enjoy.[/QUOTE]

I respect you attempt to give examples. Me being a cheap skate and the boldness of your statement- you had my attention. But you have made a statement. Continue to do so and have yet to validate your point. A flight to Medellin cost me about $1300 and 17 hours of flying just to get there. And I live on the southern east of the US close to several major airports. Going to the DR its cost me about 382 and no more than 8 hours round trip. I pay 30 - 40 dollar for hotel if I chose with wifi and hotwater. I pay about $25 per session and get to chose st or ltr. I am not confined to the limited chicas in a casa. I can't complain about service once I apply some basic understanding. There are rules to this sport. I don't do Casas and time limits anymore. You stated much less. Yet you don't show much less. Olkools statement alone said enough. I average spending 120 per day with car, food, pussy and misc. Car 35, hotel 35, puta and misc 50. Without cutting corners. In the DR one 25 minute drive and I'm in a whole new hunting ground or I have the chica get on a bus come meet me and pay her bus fare 400 peso ($9 us) around trip if she is good. I have good weather and the beach. Add the Haitians chicas to the Domincan puta mix and I can do a new mello yellow ta chocolate yohoo chica every day.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1602680]Add the Haitians chicas to the Domincan puta mix and I can do a new mello yellow ta chocolate yohoo chica every day.[/QUOTE]Funny Guy. LOL!

[QUOTE=Turgid;1602625]1) First off I would admit that taste in women is subjective 2) SDQ has no equivalent to the chicas of Energy and Abydos, .[/QUOTE]Based only on my own experience, I agree with number 1 and I disagree with number 2.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1602680]I respect you attempt to give examples. Me being a cheap skate and the boldness of your statement- you had my attention. But you have made a statement. Continue to do so and have yet to validate your point. A flight to Medellin cost me about $1300 and 17 hours of flying just to get there. And I live on the southern east of the US close to several major airports. Going to the DR its cost me about 382 and no more than 8 hours round trip. I pay 30 - 40 dollar for hotel if I chose with wifi and hotwater. I pay about $25 per session and get to chose st or ltr. I am not confined to the limited chicas in a casa. I can't complain about service once I apply some basic understanding. There are rules to this sport. I don't do Casas and time limits anymore. You stated much less. Yet you don't show much less. Olkools statement alone said enough. I average spending 120 per day with car, food, pussy and misc. Car 35, hotel 35, puta and misc 50. Without cutting corners. In the DR one 25 minute drive and I'm in a whole new hunting ground or I have the chica get on a bus come meet me and pay her bus fare 400 peso ($9 us) around trip if she is good. I have good weather and the beach. Add the Haitians chicas to the Domincan puta mix and I can do a new mello yellow ta chocolate yohoo chica every day.[/QUOTE]I pay $900 airfare to MDE. I'm sorry, I can't stay in the $30 - $40 hotels in SDQ, they are the equivalent of the $15 hotels in MDE. Hotel in MDE $50, SDQ no less than $90. $20 plus for top notch chicas in MDE not available in SDQ. I am basically a casa man. The Haitians used to save the day for me in Sosua up to my penultimate trip in 2008. In my last trip to Sosua earlier this year I encountered no doable Haitians. The service level of the Haitians is way above that of the Dominicans. I spend no more than $7 for a meal in MDE, hotel breakfast, lunch and supermarket fare for dinner. I take the metro everywhere (about $1 per trip). I average $90 per day for accommodation, transport, food, chicas and misc. I spend more time with the cheaper pros who are way hotter than the average Dominican pros. In the DR my daily budget comes up to around $150 with hotel, taxis etc. And I even sample more chicas in MDE than I do in SDQ. Yes the flight is longer but its worth it.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1602729]I pay $900 airfare to MDE. I'm sorry, I can't stay in the $30 - $40 hotels in SDQ, they are the equivalent of the $15 hotels in MDE. Hotel in MDE $50, SDQ no less than $90. $20 plus for top notch chicas in MDE not available in SDQ. I am basically a casa man. The Haitians used to save the day for me in Sosua up to my penultimate trip in 2008. In my last trip to Sosua earlier this year I encountered no doable Haitians. The service level of the Haitians is way above that of the Dominicans. I spend no more than $7 for a meal in MDE, hotel breakfast, lunch and supermarket fare for dinner. I take the metro everywhere (about $1 per trip). I average $90 per day for accommodation, transport, food, chicas and misc. I spend more time with the cheaper pros who are way hotter than the average Dominican pros. In the DR my daily budget comes up to around $150 with hotel, taxis etc. And I even sample more chicas in MDE than I do in SDQ. Yes the flight is longer but its worth it.[/QUOTE]Now that's a good budget! It does not beat my budget nor support your boastful statement. I quote, "many other Latin American cites will cost much less than a similar trip to SD from any part of the US". You use MDE as an example. That's over $900 pass my norm budget (or $400 base on your price for a ticket months in advance. I don't understand how you can call mongers who take advantage of short flights lazy. When you fly? Hours longer to MDE to sit in a hoe house to point and click from their selection. Their service must be excellent! Since you are basically a casa man, (that's lazy mongering to me) I understand why using game to deal with your chicas may be a problem. I confess I don't really go for the top notch chicas. They are known to be more bark than bite. I will 8 out of 10 spend $25 on a semi pro than $20 on a top notch hard core puta. Metro for $1 is great. I could save that way but I like the freedom of roaming in a car at my will. You say MDE has way hotter and cheaper pro chicas with better service; I will except your opinion because you been to both place. When was the last time you been to both places? How much are you paying for chicas, food, and transpo. In the DR? You say budget in the DR is $150. After hotel $90 or more you have $60 or less left for food, chica, transport and misc. The average price in SD in 4000 now. Your penultimate trip was in 2008. That's 6 yrs ago. So I will say 3000 in a casa in SD. I will make it an even 2500 peso even though the US dollar is valued more now 42.3 than almost two years ago 37.4. After your chica that leaves you with about $10 dollar for food and trans. No drinks at the casa I hope, those of us that have been to casas know that robbery. Of course you don't have to explain yourself. I was just trying to let you reel me in on your statements. Wait a Minute! I apologize. I must be honest. I have now found flights as low as $495 with only 7. 5 hours one way and 8. 5 hours back with spirit aa out of ATL. Mr Turgid Sir with a little more research I may bite! Can any one else elaborate!

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1602777] I will except your opinion because you been to both place. When was the last time you been to both places? Mr Turgid Sir with a little more research I may bite! [/QUOTE]I was in the DR in May / June, 2014 and in MDE in July, 2014 and my calculations revealed that MDE cost me less per unit time including airfare. It really is a matter of personal taste and I really do not consider another man's budget in coming up with my own and don't expect anyone to rely on mine. Furthermore I would expect that there are mongers out there who prefer DR chicas to Colombianas, it is all subjective. If I found DR pros hotter than Paisas I would probably be a lazy monger and spend alot of time in Sosua. Finally my intention is not to try to get anyone to bite. I am just relating my experience. What works for me cost wise may not work for someone else and vice versa. Also do alot of research outside of this board. I would advise mongers to depend on their own experience as I have always done and if the DR does it for you please continue to go there.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1602632]What's the advantage of small towns? They do nothing for me. I actually prefer the anonymity of cities. Its not so obvious what you are there for. For persons who like the quality of Sosua women and who like the intimacy of a small town then I would think that Sosua would be good for them. I would repeat again I love dark skinned women. Anyway, Curacao, St. Martin and Aruba can be said to be small towns with large numbers of pros. To me the women of Sosua are pros and are no different from pros in other destinations.[/QUOTE]Yes, but are you saying that these other destinations are equivalent to Sosua in value and that they have an equivalent number of freelance chicas?

I don't think you can say that freelance chicas are the same as casa chicas for various reasons. Perhaps the primary one is that the freelance chicas are not providing income to pimps or prostitution related businesses, so the money you give them is theirs, unless they choose to share it with someone, and half or two thirds of it is not taken by the house--so there is a pretty big ethical issue there. Secondly, since they are not on a fixed schedule, you can spend time with them how you want, short time or all day, use them as tour guides, shopping consultants, Spanish language conversation tutors, meet their families, and so on. Is this the same in all other destinations you have been to? It may be the case.

Frankly I am in the twilight of my mongering career that has now lasted something like 13 years--I am to old to remember when it started--and I don't care that much for it any more, but I still think that what Sosua offers men is the chance to experience sex with a variety of attractive young women in a vacation type atmosphere without it seeming like organized prostitution. OK, that may be a bit of an illusion if you look deep behind the scenes, but I can't imagine having the same type of experience in London or Amsterdam even if you leave the cost factor out of the equation and even though these cities have many more other tourist attractions, public transportation etc.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1602972]Yes, but are you saying that these other destinations are equivalent to Sosua in value and that they have an equivalent number of freelance chicas?

I don't think you can say that freelance chicas are the same as casa chicas for various reasons. Perhaps the primary one is that the freelance chicas are not providing income to pimps or prostitution related businesses, so the money you give them is theirs, unless they choose to share it with someone, and half or two thirds of it is not taken by the house--so there is a pretty big ethical issue there. Secondly, since they are not on a fixed schedule, you can spend time with them how you want, short time or all day, use them as tour guides, shopping consultants, Spanish language conversation tutors, meet their families, and so on. Is this the same in all other destinations you have been to? It may be the case.

Frankly I am in the twilight of my mongering career that has now lasted something like 13 years--I am to old to remember when it started--and I don't care that much for it any more, but I still think that what Sosua offers men is the chance to experience sex with a variety of attractive young women in a vacation type atmosphere without it seeming like organized prostitution. OK, that may be a bit of an illusion if you look deep behind the scenes, but I can't imagine having the same type of experience in London or Amsterdam even if you leave the cost factor out of the equation and even though these cities have many more other tourist attractions, public transportation etc.[/QUOTE]Bro, the hardest core pros are street walkers. Sosua is a town mainly of street walkers who are allowed into clubs. Don't get me wrong I patronize street walkers, as a matter of fact my best mongering experience ever has been with streetwalkers (Geylang, Singapore, 2008 – women from all over South East Asia – sadly a shadow of its former self now). Some of my best mongering experiences also have been in Angeles City, Philippines and Pattaya, Thailand which are along the same lines as Sosua. On the other hand, I have encountered university students and chicas with part time jobs in casas in Latin America and saunas in China. Nevertheless I do not rate one over the other, they are all prostitutes.

I prefer casa girls to freelancers (street walkers) because the casa jefes tell the girls to satisfy the customers and if they don't the customer can complain to management and the girls know this and give their best. When I pay the required amount I expect to get a blow job and sex in many positions. If the girl is clean enough, DATY and AR which I would not make a big deal about if the chica refuses. Sex in numerous positions is important for me. In a casa the chicas do that without complaint. Freelancers try their best to hoodwink you if you are not a contentious and loud person. I am cool and accommodating and will never be otherwise. I prefer to develop quiet chemistry with the girls; that way I enjoy the experience much better. I think freelancers give much better service to roughnecks who remind them of their boyfriends. I cannot and will never be a roughneck. Freelancers in Asia (except India) have a different mindset, they are more service oriented in keeping with the Asian work ethic.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1602991]Bro, the hardest core pros are street walkers. Sosua is a town mainly of street walkers who are allowed into clubs. Don't get me wrong I patronize street walkers, as a matter of fact my best mongering experience ever has been with streetwalkers (Geylang, Singapore, 2008 women from all over South East Asia sadly a shadow of its former self now). Some of my best mongering experiences also have been in Angeles City, Philippines and Pattaya, Thailand which are along the same lines as Sosua. On the other hand, I have encountered university students and chicas with part time jobs in casas in Latin America and saunas in China. Nevertheless I do not rate one over the other, they are all prostitutes.

I prefer casa girls to freelancers (street walkers) because the casa jefes tell the girls to satisfy the customers and if they don't the customer can complain to management and the girls know this and give their best. When I pay the required amount I expect to get a blow job and sex in many positions. If the girl is clean enough, DATY and AR which I would not make a big deal about if the chica refuses. Sex in numerous positions is important for me. In a casa the chicas do that without complaint. Freelancers try their best to hoodwink you if you are not a contentious and loud person. I am cool and accommodating and will never be otherwise. I prefer to develop quiet chemistry with the girls; that way I enjoy the experience much better. I think freelancers give much better service to roughnecks who remind them of their boyfriends. I cannot and will never be a roughneck. Freelancers in Asia (except India) have a different mindset, they are more service oriented in keeping with the Asian work ethic.[/QUOTE]You stated in Fannie's report "To me the women of Sosua are pros and are no different from pros in other destinations".

You also stated," I believe that if you are not good looking you should at least provide good service which I found to be lacking in Sosua ". Is this not a major difference! And which is it the chicas are not good looking. Bad serves -both.

Since you stated on 5/14 " I have noticed that Sosua is much more lively than when I was last here in 2008. There is just so much more happening. There are much more women and much hotter than back then".

I will go with serves from the pros are bad, but that will contradict your above statement.

Sorry I'm beating a dead horse. You stated you are the casa type and that will explain you lack of success in Sosua. Newbies you'll should know the chicas you want to deal with before you make the trip. If you are a casa man like my man Turgid, go to an area where there are a lot of casas so you can point and click easier. If a puta is not doing her job you can complain to the manager. Though Turgid stated in the MDE board on 6/10 "That's the classic excuse of a puta who does not want to provide proper service. I usually threaten to complain to management when she says that. I refuse to waste my precious leche on a HJ or CBJ. If she insists on HJ or CBJ I usually end the session then and there and do complain to management. Its rarely settled in my favor, however. ".

With the closing of CMP and Passions Sosua is not for you. If you like being on the front line reading, interacting, negotiating and dealing with a lot of semi and pro puta on a one on one; still pointing and clicking; Sosua is your place.

I've just spent some time in the DR and will share my impressions. I'll try not to repeat too much information from this board, which is an excellent resource.

There are some good deals in the DR mongering world, but it is generally overpriced. Given the low cost of local labor, mongering should be cheaper. While this is obviously subjective, you'll get a more attractive hooker for your money in most South American venues. There are some additional caveats with lower-class DR women: They tend to age more quickly than women in other developing countries. This seems to due to hygiene, diet (obesity is a growing problem in the DR), lack of exercise and frequent child births. It was rare that I found a lower-class DR woman over 30 years old attractive, and the looks seemed to sometimes even go by 25. So get them while they're young!

Pricing was all over the map, but overall just too high. Sometimes absurdly high. GDP is a good deal at $24/ pop, as were street walkers on the Malecon. Good-looking girls from clubs could easily get over $100, even $200-300 (especially in Punta Cana), but these girls were almost never knock-outs. The Doll House Strip Club on the Malecon (with mostly Colombian imports) charges the same for lap dances and extras as many strip clubs in the USA Shangri-La massage spa for men in the Malecon Center (next to the Hilton) has attractive women, but charges 2,300 for an ordinary massage, and the girl doesn't even get a cut. They'll want another 1,000-2,000 for a fully-clothed HJ. I actually liked Slip on Me at 2,200.

However, the DR really shines when it comes to non-pros. DR girls desperatly want to go out with gringo guys, and they are enthusiastic performers. Dating takes time, effort and Spanish skills, but that's really where the action is. When dating, you can even push it up into the middle or even upper-middle classes. In that case, you get a better-educated companion whose looks don't necessarily go to hell at 25.

Where to meet non-pros? Actually, you can meet them anywhere if you possess decent Spanish skills. DR people are extremely foreigner-friendly and you can always strike up a conversation. If you make a few friends on FB, just look for hot-looking friends and befriend them. When they ask why you are making virtual friends, just say you looked really interested on-line and we share many of the same interests. The hottest seemed to me in cities you wouldn't want to go as a tourist. Like San Francisco de Macoris or Santiago. No problem. They'll offer to come to Santo Domingo to meet you (especially if you offer to pay bus fare).

Anyway, I know some will disagree but this is my take on the DR: So-so for mongering but quite decent for casual dating. The looks go very fast, so get them as young as possible.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1602991]Bro, the hardest core pros are street walkers. Sosua is a town mainly of street walkers who are allowed into clubs. Don't get me wrong I patronize street walkers, as a matter of fact my best mongering experience ever has been with streetwalkers (Geylang, Singapore, 2008 women from all over South East Asia sadly a shadow of its former self now). Some of my best mongering experiences also have been in Angeles City, Philippines and Pattaya, Thailand which are along the same lines as Sosua. On the other hand, I have encountered university students and chicas with part time jobs in casas in Latin America and saunas in China. Nevertheless I do not rate one over the other, they are all prostitutes.

I prefer casa girls to freelancers (street walkers) because the casa jefes tell the girls to satisfy the customers and if they don't the customer can complain to management and the girls know this and give their best. When I pay the required amount I expect to get a blow job and sex in many positions. If the girl is clean enough, DATY and AR which I would not make a big deal about if the chica refuses. Sex in numerous positions is important for me. In a casa the chicas do that without complaint. Freelancers try their best to hoodwink you if you are not a contentious and loud person. I am cool and accommodating and will never be otherwise. I prefer to develop quiet chemistry with the girls; that way I enjoy the experience much better. I think freelancers give much better service to roughnecks who remind them of their boyfriends. I cannot and will never be a roughneck. Freelancers in Asia (except India) have a different mindset, they are more service oriented in keeping with the Asian work ethic.[/QUOTE]There is nothing more tired or less interesting than casa chicas. Their time isn't their own so they're there whether they want to be or not. Their goal is to bang as many separate guys as possible in their allotted time and then punch out an go home. They have no interest in the guys, no interest in their jobs, and as such are less interesting to me. Doing the compound thing like Blackbeards or Field of Dreams is the least interesting type of mongering experience available. You might as well stay home and bang a high priced hooker and save the airfare. It's mongering with training wheels, and it's fine for newbies as it builds confidence and provides a platform to leap from, but the greater and woder experience is only available to those who get out in the world.

Freelancers are a greater risk, this is true, but this is how a monger hones his skills and becomes a monger, by learning how to negotiate and how to screen freelancers. Interviewing is an essential skill and if you do it then 99% of the worst issues can be avoided. Freelancers are on their own time, aren't typically looking to do more than one or possibly (but not usually) two. They don't have to pretend to like you because it's the house rule. They pretend to like you because they want to! LOL.

Every once in a while you'll even find the ones that genuinely enjoy your company. They're not on a clock, they want to have sex with you (sometimes even without payment) and their level of engagement is 500% higher than a casa chica will ever be (at least until she gets out of the casa and makes her own rules. They all do eventually) With non-pros there's an added emphasis on everything I just said, and possibly even a feature or two more as far as the emotional engagement goes.

Casa chicas are great when you've got an hour to kill and you want her to be gone at the end of it, but no one that I'd ever call a monger goes exclusively for the purpose of going to casas. Still, I support everyone's right to their preferences, and will happily concede that what makes you happy is what you should do. No matter what your niche is, never let anyone tell you that you have to be somewhere else. I support a different point of view, but you should continue to do what makes you happy, because at the end of everything, when all is said and done, isn't that the point?

[QUOTE=TheGuy;1603069]...Anyway, I know some will disagree but this is my take on the DR: So-so for mongering but quite decent for casual dating...[/QUOTE]This is my take on the Dominican Republic as well.

Excluding the tourist bull-shit (climate, culture, beaches, resorts, dining), the DR is an average LatAm country for P4P. Personally, I believe that San Jose is one of the best cities in LatAm for P4P due to the price per transaction, the transparency of the pricing, the numerous sex establishments, the proximity of the establishments to one another, and the skill and variety of the servicers.

Nevertheless, the DR is an above average LatAm country for dating non-pros (working professionals). Doctors, lawyers, accountants, police officers, and models all are easily available with Spanish proficiency and skills. Although, most are easily available in Brazil, Argentina, Peru, Panama, or Colombia, it is harder to obtain the equivalent non-pro at the same level of physical attractiveness.

I find that if I want to fuck working professionals outside of the Dominican Republic, then I know that I will have to settle for a woman who is 2 levels lower on the scale of physical attractiveness (0-10). Because I want to fuck 8's and NOT 6's, I settle for (pay) pros or semi-pros (university students, waitresses, bartenders, retail clerks, and Badoo and "Cupido" girls) when I am traveling outside of the Dominican Republic.

[b]BTW: Although, physical attractiveness is highly subjective, I find that Dominican women have the best natural bodies in Latin America (large ass-to-waist ratio and large breast-to-waist ratio). [/b]

-Helpmann :)

There are more than a few Dominicans working the gringos in San Jose, Costa Rica.

[QUOTE=Helpmann;1603090]This is my take on the Dominican Republic as well.

Excluding the tourist bull-shit (climate, culture, beaches, resorts, dining), the DR is an average LatAm country for P4P. Personally, I believe that San Jose is one of the best cities in LatAm for P4P due to the price per transaction, the transparency of the pricing, the numerous sex establishments, the proximity of the establishments to one another, and the skill and variety of the servicers.

Nevertheless, the DR is an above average LatAm country for dating non-pros (working professionals). Doctors, lawyers, accountants, police officers, and models all are easily available with Spanish proficiency and skills. Although, most are easily available in Brazil, Argentina, Peru, Panama, or Colombia, it is harder to obtain the equivalent non-pro at the same level of physical attractiveness.

I find that if I want to fuck working professionals outside of the Dominican Republic, then I know that I will have to settle for a woman who is 2 levels lower on the scale of physical attractiveness (0-10). Because I want to fuck 8's and NOT 6's, I settle for (pay) pros or semi-pros (university students, waitresses, bartenders, retail clerks, and Badoo and "Cupido" girls) when I am traveling outside of the Dominican Republic.

[b]BTW: Although, physical attractiveness is highly subjective, I find that Dominican women have the best natural bodies in Latin America (large ass-to-waist ratio and large breast-to-waist ratio). [/b]

-Helpmann :)[/QUOTE]

I think we might agree about something. I find the pricing structure in Medellin much more structured and predictable across the board. Clip joints and tourist only rates in Medellin are rare and isolated. Casa prices in the Centro are all within a few hundred COP of each other. Casas of the next tier up (Energy, Abydos, etc.) don't differ much in price either. Like everything else in Colombia, the scene is more developed and organized than the Dominican counterparts. It's neither better worse in my opinion, just different. Another difference that matters to some is, in my opinion, it's easier for outsiders to make personal connections in the Dominican Republic than it generally is in Colombian cities. Have fun!

[QUOTE=TheGuy;1603069]I've just spent some time in the DR and will share my impressions. I'll try not to repeat too much information from this board, which is an excellent resource.

There are some good deals in the DR mongering world, but it is generally overpriced. Given the low cost of local labor, mongering should be cheaper. While this is obviously subjective, you'll get a more attractive hooker for your money in most South American venues. There are some additional caveats with lower-class DR women: They tend to age more quickly than women in other developing countries. This seems to due to hygiene, diet (obesity is a growing problem in the DR), lack of exercise and frequent child births. It was rare that I found a lower-class DR woman over 30 years old attractive, and the looks seemed to sometimes even go by 25. So get them while they're young!

Pricing was all over the map, but overall just too high. Sometimes absurdly high. GDP is a good deal at $24/ pop, as were street walkers on the Malecon...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheGuy;1603069]

Pricing was all over the map, but overall just too high. Sometimes absurdly high. GDP is a good deal at $24/ pop, as were street walkers on the Malecon. Good-looking girls from clubs could easily get over $100, even $200-300 (especially in Punta Cana), but these girls were almost never knock-outs. The Doll House Strip Club on the Malecon (with mostly Colombian imports) charges the same for lap dances and extras as many strip clubs in the USA Shangri-La massage spa for men in the Malecon Center (next to the Hilton) has attractive women, but charges 2,300 for an ordinary massage, and the girl doesn't even get a cut. They'll want another 1,000-2,000 for a fully-clothed HJ. I actually liked Slip on Me at 2,200.

.[/QUOTE]I think this is a good take on SDQ and PC as far as prices. But not for BC, Sosua, SP, LR, La Vega, or Hiquey.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1602625]First off I would admit that taste in women is subjective and for me the women of the destinations I will give are hotter than DR women. Perfect example is Medellin from which I have just returned. The $50 per day hotel in which I stayed (Estadio Real) will cost more than twice that for the equivalent in SDQ. I would rate the women of New Life casa (I paid US $20 per half hour. I did 1/2 hr sessions there) as hot as the women of Casa Teresa (US $100 per hr- no option for 1/2 hr here). Food is cheaper in MDE, [b]Taxis are everywhere, metered and cheap, you do not have to wait as long as 5 minutes for a taxi here). Only the airfare is more expensive.[/b] [/QUOTE]Here, I agree with Turgid having been to Medellin about 7 times now: Medellin is not cheap! Getting there costs me anywhere from $800-$1000. I do not stay in hotels while in Medellin: I use apartments. Most of the apartments I stay in run anywhere from $125-$145 per night. And these are not junk apartments. They are usually 2-3 bedrooms with A/C and hot tub in a very good (strategic) location. Flat screens in every room. DirectTV, hot water 24/7, at least 2-3 bathrooms, washer and dryer in the apartment, you name it. (Quality) Chicas (not the "streetie" drugged up, strung out types) that come to your apartment with GFE / unrushed service will run you anywhere from $65-$100+ dollars plus $20 in taxi fare ($10 both ways) depending on how close or far she is from you.

The most important cultural difference I have found between the DR and Colombia is the idea of prepago-ism (lol). When I am scouting chicas on Dominican Cupid, all of them seem to be looking for boyfriends or husbands; something serious. When I am working the fb network in Medellin, every chica I have hit up already knows the deal: they will provide you with the girlfriend experience (GFE) in exchange for some pesos. This makes my job a hell of a lot easier, because I do not have to explain to her that I want to see multiple chicas during my time there. They already know this. I have not been to a casa or strip club since my very first trip to Medellin. All of my chicas would be considered Semi Pros. They are available to meet with you any time (as long as they are not en la universidad at the time), and are not in a rush to leave once they arrive at your place. Some are available for TLN given advanced notice.

Having to work the "potential novio para ti" angle in the DR is a headache. I hate having to create fake responses to "que buscas? Un relacion seria?" But having said that, there are no shortage of very hot Dominicanas that send me messages and "interests" on DC, and when asked if they can come and visit me, the response is always "Si, claro. " Whether or not it holds up once you are actually on the ground is something I haven't had a chance to explore yet (see explanation below).

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1602680]Car 35, hotel 35, puta and misc 50. Without cutting corners. In the DR one 25 minute drive and I'm in a whole new hunting ground or I have the chica get on a bus come meet me and pay her bus fare 400 peso ($9 us) around trip if she is good. I have good weather and the beach. Add the Haitians chicas to the Domincan puta mix and I can do a new mello yellow ta chocolate yohoo chica every day.[/QUOTE]I have not been to Santo Domingo yet, but I am really trying to convince myself to go in 2015. The one thing I absolutely do not like is that they do not have metered taxis like Medellin does. Bq Ribs sent me a map that is supposed to give you an idea of the prices for each zone, but I see that it is still a problem given the recent posts about having taxis trying to rip you off.

I would love to rent a car and drive throughout the island. Hats off to you guys that have figured it out. I just find being pulled over by the cops and every 5 minutes is not my idea of fun. Probably would not be driving into a chica's barrio to pick her up either since I don't know anything about the island outside of Sosua.

Like Mr. Gogo said: it seems like most guys come to SD and get their asses kicked so hard that they run crying to Sosua the next day. SD seems to work for those that have connects from previous trips as backups (like chicas who live in SD, but were in Sosua during the time the two of you met). Tempoecoto (spelling) demonstrated that you can spend a great deal of time messaging back and forth with these chicas, and then show up and they flake on you. I do not find this to be a problem in Medellin. I can show up their with a completely new roster of chicas I want to see and the only problem I would have is one or two show up late.

My trips having been running anywhere from a week to a week and a half these days (thank you higher edjumacation!) Even so, I do not want to spend 2-3 days in SD going on dates with "non pros" when I already am arriving there with weeks of blue balls. I do not want to have to use casas, streetwalkers, or strip clubs as a backup plan when I don't even have (need) to use those options in Medellin. My first day in country in Medellin I easily am doing 4 different chicas if I arrive their early enough in the day (and depending on how heavy traffic is that day).

So to the experienced SD Vets: What is it that I am missing when it comes to trying to hook up with chicas in SD without having one of them wanting to cling to you for an entire day before she decides to give you some?

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1603156]Here, I agree with Turgid having been to Medellin about 7 times now: Medellin is not cheap! Getting there costs me anywhere from $800-$1000. I do not stay in hotels while in Medellin: I use apartments. Most of the apartments I stay in run anywhere from $125-$145 per night. And these are not junk apartments. They are usually 2-3 bedrooms with A/C and hot tub in a very good (strategic) location. Flat screens in every room. DirectTV, hot water 24/7, at least 2-3 bathrooms, washer and dryer in the apartment, you name it. (Quality) Chicas (not the "streetie" drugged up, strung out types) that come to your apartment with GFE / unrushed service will run you anywhere from $65-$100+ dollars plus $20 in taxi fare ($10 both ways) depending on how close or far she is from you.

( Now that's some info. Though Turgid was saying different in terms of budget. $800 to $1000 for ticket, $125-$145 hotel, $65-100 for the chica plus $20 for the taxi. Why don't you let her take the $1 metro big balla lol. I found tickets with AA for as low as 495 rt. I am paying $35-40 hotel and $25-30 for chica. Your prices are killing me! lol But that's the norm in SD and ST.)


The most important cultural difference I have found between the DR and Colombia is the idea of prepago-ism (lol). When I am scouting chicas on Dominican Cupid, all of them seem to be looking for boyfriends or husbands; something serious. When I am working the fb network in Medellin, every chica I have hit up already knows the deal: they will provide you with the girlfriend experience (GFE) in exchange for some pesos. This makes my job a hell of a lot easier, because I do not have to explain to her that I want to see multiple chicas during my time there. They already know this. I have not been to a casa or strip club since my very first trip to Medellin. All of my chicas would be considered Semi Pros. They are available to meet with you any time (as long as they are not en la universidad at the time), and are not in a rush to leave once they arrive at your place. Some are available for TLN given advanced notice.

Having to work the "potential novio para ti" angle in the DR is a headache. I hate having to create fake responses to "que buscas? Un relacion seria?" But having said that, there are no shortage of very hot Dominicanas that send me messages and "interests" on DC, and when asked if they can come and visit me, the response is always "Si, claro. " Whether or not it holds up once you are actually on the ground is something I haven't had a chance to explore yet (see explanation below).

( I understand the headache with working the potential novo angle. I kinda of goes with the non puta ammunition lol.) Olskool always advised stick with semi pros so she will no her exit when the time come with no problem. I do hate the "tienes un novia aqui" from my non pros- because now I have to lie to get the most out of my experience)

I have not been to Santo Domingo yet, but I am really trying to convince myself to go in 2015. The one thing I absolutely do not like is that they do not have metered taxis like Medellin does. Bq Ribs sent me a map that is supposed to give you an idea of the prices for each zone, but I see that it is still a problem given the recent posts about having taxis trying to rip you off.

I would love to rent a car and drive throughout the island. Hats off to you guys that have figured it out. I just find being pulled over by the cops and every 5 minutes is not my idea of fun. Probably would not be driving into a chica's barrio to pick her up either since I don't know anything about the island outside of Sosua.

Like Mr. Gogo said: it seems like most guys come to SD and get their asses kicked so hard that they run crying to Sosua the next day. SD seems to work for those that have connects from previous trips as backups (like chicas who live in SD, but were in Sosua during the time the two of you met). Tempoecoto (spelling) demonstrated that you can spend a great deal of time messaging back and forth with these chicas, and then show up and they flake on you. I do not find this to be a problem in Medellin. I can show up their with a completely new roster of chicas I want to see and the only problem I would have is one or two show up late.

My trips having been running anywhere from a week to a week and a half these days (thank you higher edjumacation!) Even so, I do not want to spend 2-3 days in SD going on dates with "non pros" when I already am arriving there with weeks of blue balls. I do not want to have to use casas, streetwalkers, or strip clubs as a backup plan when I don't even have (need) to use those options in Medellin. My first day in country in Medellin I easily am doing 4 different chicas if I arrive their early enough in the day (and depending on how heavy traffic is that day).

So to the experienced SD Vets: What is it that I am missing when it comes to trying to hook up with chicas in SD without having one of them wanting to cling to you for an entire day before she decides to give you some?[/QUOTE]
Wow no casa, street walks, or strip clubs- were do these chicas hangout to get their customers from? It sound like you are missing out on possibly saving money and time on flight, the add beach environment and the need for a little game. I am not a SD Vet but you can't be up and running like that in the DR without some planning. Shit even some semi pro don't know when to leave you alone. DR people are never on time and costumer service is not a priority. You are right you do need connects for of good services. Does Mde give you that home town vibe?

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1603156]


I have not been to Santo Domingo yet, but I am really trying to convince myself to go in 2015. The one thing I absolutely do not like is that they do not have metered taxis like Medellin does. Bq Ribs sent me a map that is supposed to give you an idea of the prices for each zone, but I see that it is still a problem given the recent posts about having taxis trying to rip you off.

[/QUOTE]Of my 3-4 year going to sd, I've always asked the taxi how much before going with him. If I'm quoted a high price I just counter with what it should cost, around 200-300 depending on where. Once they know you know the price they tend to back off from scamming. I've noticed that vans on the conde will want more and not budge, I just walk down to independicia or go to the catherdral and catch one from there if my regualr is busy. As long as the price was negoated up front like with chicas there should be no problem. I even caught taxis from Naco to zonza cononal and didn't ask for price but when droped off was only charge 200. I think he didn't even ask, I just handed him 200 and got out. Most I paid was 300 from naco to std este.

The vibe I'm getting is that the DR is good for non-pros (SDQ) and the non-pro illusion (Sosua). I save my non-pro activity for the US. Yes, they are bullshitters but at least I can talk with them about international politics, economics, history, literature, current affairs etc. I need that mental stimulation. Perhaps when I learn Spanish and decide to take a Latina under my wing I may pursue the non-pro option. I love variety, black, brown, white, Latina, Asian, European, American, hence my need to travel. I hobby at home and abroad. You can get all these women in the States but if you plan and budget properly you can have a cheaper experience abroad.

[QUOTE=Grandnash84;1603211]Of my 3-4 year going to sd, I've always asked the taxi how much before going with him. If I'm quoted a high price I just counter with what it should cost, around 200-300 depending on where. Once they know you know the price they tend to back off from scamming. I've noticed that vans on the conde will want more and not budge, I just walk down to independicia or go to the catherdral and catch one from there if my regualr is busy. As long as the price was negoated up front like with chicas there should be no problem. I even caught taxis from Naco to zonza cononal and didn't ask for price but when droped off was only charge 200. I think he didn't even ask, I just handed him 200 and got out. Most I paid was 300 from naco to std este.[/QUOTE]I asked a taxi in front of Mercure in ZoNa Colonial how much to Gazcue, he quoted me 250 pesos. I took my phone and called Aero Taxi, their cost is 140 pesos (which is the rate for short rides in SD). 95% of my rides costed less than 180 pesos. Bus to Boca Chica 70 pesos, to Juan Dolio 70 pesos too.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1603364]The vibe I'm getting is that the DR is good for non-pros (SDQ) and the non-pro illusion (Sosua)..[/QUOTE]Naw my man its hoes and more hoe in Sosua, It's rare to get the non pro illusion.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1603156] I have not been to Santo Domingo yet, but I am really trying to convince myself to go in 2015. The one thing I absolutely do not like is that they do not have metered taxis like Medellin does. [/QUOTE]You are afraid of SD because of taxis? I dislike SD but because it has nothing that reminds you of a caribbean island but taxis are no big deal given that you speak Spanish I presume? I stated 150 pesos for short rides and there was no issues whatsoever and for my ride back to the airport, I asked the taxi man to look for another ride to share. End result, I paid $20 from hotel to the Airport. Door to door.

Having said that, there is nothing like driving around and do not let the cops scare you. I have not had "no" bad experiences so far. Driving during the day and never driving drunk. I also must state that my SD no show was a complete newbie who I had met online only about 5 days back. As I said, I dislike the big city but I have no doubt that if I were to focus on spending time on chatting people up there, they would all be girl friend experiences which essentially all my contacts are in the north (this trip. Except one out of 4 newbies out of a total of 11 - who balked) starting Bonao and that means, they will give it to you, whenever you are in the mood and however you want it.

In summary, SD does not have any particular charm for me, except at times, the flight cost, which was the case this time.

I don't understand why nobody is listening to you Boricua. You are telling the truth. It's almost like people prefer the taxi drama and need something to complain about. I can make it even simpler. 200 pesos will cover a reasonable tip AND most any trip from say the Jaragua west to Nunez, north to Ovando (think of it as the cemetery near Kennedy). That covers Naco, Piantini, Ensanche Quisqueya, the Acropolis and the new shopping malls. Use that as a guide and you won't be ripped off and there will be no need for arguments or police.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1603371]I asked a taxi in front of Mercure in ZoNa Colonial how much to Gazcue, he quoted me 250 pesos. I took my phone and called Aero Taxi, their cost is 140 pesos (which is the rate for short rides in SD). 95% of my rides costed less than 180 pesos. Bus to Boca Chica 70 pesos, to Juan Dolio 70 pesos too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;1602953]I would advise mongers to depend on their own experience as I have always done and if the DR does it for you please continue to go there.[/QUOTE]Turgid, before you even offered to share your experience, don't you think most guys were / are already doing just that? Your comment. "please continue to go there" I know you know what a pre supposition is. It's a way of saying something or sending a message without actually saying it. It can be used as a sly way of discounting someone elses experience, but be able to claim no harm was meant. People do that all the time. Anyone perceptive enough can pick up on the condescension in those types of statements.

Whats comical is all of this acknowledgement on both sides. The subjectiveness when it comes to attractiveness, character in women, cost, things to do etc. What difference does it make if one guy finds women hotter elsewhere than another place? We only think in one head, and we only fuck with one dick. For most, as long as we were satisfied with what we had, it makes no difference if some other woman elsewhere is hotter than the one that is in front of me.

Thats like somebody telling somebody else they wouldn't eat at a particular restaurant because the food tastes like shit, the place is a dump. Meanwhile someone else has no problem with the restaurant, and can explain why they like the food and the atmosphere there. The person listening, feigns acceptance. "Well if you like the food, and it meets your needs, then please continue to go there. " Well damn, that's what they were doing in the first place. They didn't need anyones blessing for that. Doesn't that sound condescending to you? I mean it's not like somebody asked for direct feedback. One persons experience or low opinion of people,place or things is not a common denominator or template for others. YMMD in all things.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1603371]I asked a taxi in front of Mercure in ZoNa Colonial how much to Gazcue, he quoted me 250 pesos. I took my phone and called Aero Taxi, their cost is 140 pesos (which is the rate for short rides in SD). 95% of my rides costed less than 180 pesos. Bus to Boca Chica 70 pesos, to Juan Dolio 70 pesos too.[/QUOTE]I take it your spanish is 100% fluent?

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1603512]I take it your spanish is 100% fluent?[/QUOTE]BoricuaOnline is 100% Puertorriqueño, lol.

It is not at all hard to find someone to talk to the taxi company for you. Now that the real fare has been repeated so many times here, you don't even need somebody you trust to talk to the taxi company for you. Ask your hotel to call a taxi or any random person. Have them tell the taxi company you are willing to pay 200 or you could pay twice that after arguing and risking a police bribe, depends on how much drama you like.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1603512]I take it your spanish is 100% fluent?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1603524]BoricuaOnline is 100% Puertorriqueo, lol.[/QUOTE]Being fluent and also being Latino I'm sure might bring different / better results more often than for a dude who isn't. One thing for sure, it definitely makes sense to make sure you get the price straight before letting any driver take you anywhere.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1603539]It is not at all hard to find someone to talk to the taxi company for you. Now that the real fare has been repeated so many times here, you don't even need somebody you trust to talk to the taxi company for you. Ask your hotel to call a taxi or any random person. Have them tell the taxi company you are willing to pay 200 or you could pay twice that after arguing and risking a police bribe, depends on how much drama you like.[/QUOTE]I recall 2 years back I booked at the Jaguar Apart Hotel in Gazcue. The owner had asked me if I needed to be picked up. I said yes. I was lead to believe the taxi coming to pick me up was a free pick up. I communicated with him again when I was getting my luggage. And again, I was lead to believe the hotel was providing "complimentary" transpo. When I got to the hotel, the driver was looking to get paid. More than what a savvy passenger would normally pay. The owner was outside in front, and we got into a dispute.

I ended up on the wrong foot with the hotel owner right off the bat, because I felt he set me up. I told him his choice of words about complimentary pickup, was all wrong. You don't tell your guests that you arranging the taxi coming to pick them up is complimentary. When what you really mean is, you sending a taxi is the only thing complimentary. I told him that anybody can get their own taxi from the airport. If the taxi sent was offering a lower fare, then it would be worth it. But this driver was asking for $40 from SDQ to the Jaguar. I find too often in the DR, a lot of Dominicans don't seem to care about the potential for losing business, or losing long term benefits.

The only thing enough seem to care about is what they can get in the present moment. I think their mindset is, the person will get over it. Or it aint no big deal, because they may believe you got it like that and can afford that and more. It was obvious he was looking out for that taxi driver, and prepared to play dumb when I arrived at the hotel to figure out how things got twisted. The taxi driver could have been a regular driver for me, but that price he quoted eliminated him. The only thing he focused on is what he could get out of me for that trip. I saw him later during my stay. Then he had that look like he was waiting for me to hire him again. Like I forgot all about him trying to over charge me the 1st day.

I realized then, even if you trust someone to assist you, you still have to have quality information beforehand and be prepared to use it to reduce the possibility of anyone trying to get over on you. Especially when locals typically look out for each other.

I can tell you learned from the experience. I don't think it will happen to you again. I can't agree more with what you said about the Dominican habit of not thinking ahead or developing a business relationship. It is the reason behind a lot of social and economic problems and it runs the gamut from shoeshine boys, waiters, and everybody in the presidential palace right up to Danilo.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1603761]I recall 2 years back I booked at the Jaguar Apart Hotel in Gazcue. The owner had asked me if I needed to be picked up. I said yes. I was lead to believe the taxi coming to pick me up was a free pick up. I communicated with him again when I was getting my luggage. And again, I was lead to believe the hotel was providing "complimentary" transpo. When I got to the hotel, the driver was looking to get paid. More than what a savvy passenger would normally pay. The owner was outside in front, and we got into a dispute.

I ended up on the wrong foot with the hotel owner right off the bat, because I felt he set me up. I told him his choice of words about complimentary pickup, was all wrong. You don't tell your guests that you arranging the taxi coming to pick them up is complimentary. When what you really mean is, you sending a taxi is the only thing complimentary. I told him that anybody can get their own taxi from the airport. If the taxi sent was offering a lower fare, then it would be worth it. But this driver was asking for $40 from SDQ to the Jaguar. I find too often in the DR, a lot of Dominicans don't seem to care about the potential for losing business, or losing long term benefits...[/QUOTE]

Returning to SD next week for some action. Never stayed in El Conde. Wondering what the street action is like during the afternoon and evening. Yes, I know it's everywhere, but I don't want to venture far from my hotel on foot.

[QUOTE=Fuddzie;1604395]Returning to SD next week for some action. Never stayed in El Conde. Wondering what the street action is like during the afternoon and evening. Yes, I know it's everywhere, but I don't want to venture far from my hotel on foot.[/QUOTE]I walked on el Conde as I stayed in a private house close by for three days starting 7/23. I was approached by several women at around 6 pm offering messages which I was not interested in. Also where el conde begins, close to Parque Independencia, the same evening, I came across at least one woman who smiled at me and came up to me for conversation. She quoted 1500 and on showing my surprise, quickly dropped it to 1000 pesos. I was not interested though so cannot speak more on that. This was very close to the restaurant known as Pacos, or Grands now. In total I am speaking of a stretch of about 4/5 blocks from Parque Independencia where I met with these options. Afternoon was way too hot to explore for me.

Late afternoon and evening is prime time. Position yourself prominently at an outdoor table, they will come to you.

[QUOTE=Fuddzie;1604395]Returning to SD next week for some action. Never stayed in El Conde. Wondering what the street action is like during the afternoon and evening. Yes, I know it's everywhere, but I don't want to venture far from my hotel on foot.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1604459]Late afternoon and evening is prime time. Position yourself prominently at an outdoor table, they will come to you.[/QUOTE]Can someone please recommend a chica friendly hotel in El Conde? Nothing fancy, just clean with a bed and AC.

[QUOTE=Fuddzie;1604484]Can someone please recommend a chica friendly hotel in El Conde? Nothing fancy, just clean with a bed and AC.[/QUOTE]I checked only one hotel. Practically opposite Pacos / Grands. A little tangentially with a whole bunch of flags waving. Cannot miss it, smack at the beginning of el conde. Must have been renovated recently. Can't remember the name. You ring the bell and they open the door remotely for you and then you go up a flight of stairs where the rooms are. The rooms were clean, modern style. Chrome and glass kind and with A / see. Starting at $40. I had the business card the woman gave me but I misplaced it. I cannot speak of being guest friendly as I did not stay or ask about it but, I have no doubt that being a small hotel, it is. Indeed, the reception upstairs is in a separate room and you do not need to pass through there as you go to your room.

Hotel Discovery, Roma 1 and Mercure fall into your category. They all have web sites.

[QUOTE=Fuddzie;1604484]Can someone please recommend a chica friendly hotel in El Conde? Nothing fancy, just clean with a bed and AC.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=JJ341;1604923]Hotel Discovery, Roma 1 and Mercure fall into your category. They all have web sites.

.[/QUOTE]If you think the mercure is chica friend you are going to be in for a surprise.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1605193]If you think the mercure is chica friend you are going to be in for a surprise.[/QUOTE]I heard the Mecure charges $17/ per guest. I decided to stay at the Roma. .

[QUOTE=Fuddzie;1605204]I heard the Mecure charges $17/ per guest. I decided to stay at the Roma. .[/QUOTE]Which roma did you stay at?

[QUOTE=Grandnash84;1605331]Which roma did you stay at?[/QUOTE]Roma 1 haven't stayed yet.

I plan to see SD and Sosua. In SD I am staying the Hotel San Francisco in zona colonal. The hotel is $40 it appears to have the things I require. I plan to walk El Conde and checkout some of the hotels that are not well known. It will answer many questions about chjca friendly hotels. I use priceline and see many hotels that I have no knowledge of. Many of these hotels are listed under $50 and are close to El Conde.

My Schedule is fluid. I am not sure how long I will be in any location but I have several chicason the list.

I'm heading back to SD and Santiago on the 28th, for two weeks if anyone is around. I never saw any of these car wash places and never ventured into any casas not on avenida pasteur (I did go to 1000 peso and hour place once in santo domingo forgotten the name) so will try to see more of these. Will try to stay at san fran de asis but they are hard to book from experience, and were full most days last month. Wasn't roma II labelled as a choice for gays in the capital to stay? If anyone knows of a good hotel in santiago that doesn't cost an arm and and a leg that'd be great.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1606820] Will try to stay at san fran de asis but they are hard to book from experience, and were full most days last month. [/QUOTE]I stayed with San Fran de Asis early August. Just showed up. Their 50 dollar rooms are very nice. The receptionist is Jenny. I also told her the web booking does not work as I tried. She did not know how to react.

Also at the beginning of El Conde, there is a hotel, tangentially across Pacos / Grands. I checked the room and the 40 dollar room was nice. Again, they had rooms available when I showed up.

In SD now. I checked into Riazor. Paid $65 cash. Nice room and small hotel overall. I'm only here for a day, but I could be comfortable here. My taxi from the bus terminal did not know about Jaguar apartments and I dropped the ball by not copying the address. We pull up to the casino and I'm just got frustrated and remember hearing good things about Riazor.

I'm happy with my choice. Took about 20 minutes to walk to El Conde. The vultures are out. Damn near got tackled to go get a massage. She would not take no for an answer and insisted on showing me the setup even though I said I was hungry. Made a weak promise to meet in my room. She was a cutie, but I doubt if I call. Noticed her nail Polish was all chipped and that kinda killed it for me.

Eating at the El Conde hotel right now. It's almost 8 pm and there's a couple of good options around. I just don't feel it. Sosua drained the shit out of me. All the drinking and fucking seems to have caught up on me and I might not pick up anything. I'm going to Avenida Independencia next to look around. Unless something surprising happens, I'll probably take the night off.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1605193]If you think the mercure is chica friend you are going to be in for a surprise.[/QUOTE]Well it depends the way you look at it. You can bring girls to Mercure every day and every night but its $13-17 per guest per day which still compared to some other places that just say no is somewhat reasonable, IMHO.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1603761]I find too often in the DR, a lot of Dominicans don't seem to care about the potential for losing business, or losing long term benefits. The only thing enough seem to care about is what they can get in the present moment. I think their mindset is, the person will get over it. Or it aint no big deal, because they may believe you got it like that and can afford that and more. It was obvious he was looking out for that taxi driver, and prepared to play dumb when I arrived at the hotel to figure out how things got twisted. The taxi driver could have been a regular driver for me, but that price he quoted eliminated him. The only thing he focused on is what he could get out of me for that trip. I saw him later during my stay. Then he had that look like he was waiting for me to hire him again. Like I forgot all about him trying to over charge me the 1st day.I realized then, even if you trust someone to assist you, you still have to have quality information beforehand and be prepared to use it to reduce the possibility of anyone trying to get over on you. Especially when locals typically look out for each other.[/QUOTE]If someone can figure out how to deal with this then they have mastered the DR. As ridiculous as it may sound most Americans, Europeans, and Asian cultures in business expect reciprocity, if you are nice to me I won't forget you and therefore I will use you or your business in the future. Well this economic and social rule does not apply in the DR, In any manner (girls, taxi drivers, hotel clerks, waitresses). In general its what I can get from you for as much as possible, now; and that's it, who care s about an hour from now or tomorrow. I can truly say for me this is hard to get around because I've been embedded to think otherwise, hell even Haitian's who are the the poorest and for that matter unluckiest country of the Caribbean have honor, dignity and pride 100 fold more than most people in the DR, you figure it out, I've stopped trying.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny2;1606995]My taxi from the bus terminal did not know about Jaguar apartments and I dropped the ball by not copying the address. [/QUOTE]Jaguar Apart Hotel. 59 Hermanos Deligne, around the corner and up the street from the Riazor Hotel.

Rafael Jimenez was the owner / manager when I was there last. Had no problems. Although I did not really like their shower. It's like a step down in a small tub that has a shower head. No big deal, but I like a regular walk in shower. King bed and the queen beds were comfortable. Internet was ok. Clean, friendly staff.

You are aware of the culture. That is the most important thing. You don't have to sink to that level but you need to be aware. You can behave honorably and treat service providers fairly but if you expect the same in return you will be disappointed, angry, ripped off or worse. Expect the rip off attempt and when it comes, make it clear you know it and won't have any part of it.

Have fun.

[QUOTE=Gas6459;1607021]If someone can figure out how to deal with this then they have mastered the DR. As ridiculous as it may sound most Americans, Europeans, and Asian cultures in business expect reciprocity, if you are nice to me I won't forget you and therefore I will use you or your business in the future. Well this economic and social rule does not apply in the DR, In any manner (girls, taxi drivers, hotel clerks, waitresses). In general its what I can get from you for as much as possible, now; and that's it, who care s about an hour from now or tomorrow. I can truly say for me this is hard to get around because I've been embedded to think otherwise, hell even Haitian's who are the the poorest and for that matter unluckiest country of the Caribbean have honor, dignity and pride 100 fold more than most people in the DR, you figure it out, I've stopped trying.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gas6459;1607021]If someone can figure out how to deal with this then they have mastered the DR. As ridiculous as it may sound most Americans, Europeans, and Asian cultures in business expect reciprocity, if you are nice to me I won't forget you and therefore I will use you or your business in the future. Well this economic and social rule does not apply in the DR, In any manner (girls, taxi drivers, hotel clerks, waitresses). In general its what I can get from you for as much as possible, now; and that's it, who care s about an hour from now or tomorrow. I can truly say for me this is hard to get around because I've been embedded to think otherwise, hell even Haitian's who are the the poorest and for that matter unluckiest country of the Caribbean have honor, dignity and pride 100 fold more than most people in the DR, you figure it out, I've stopped trying.[/QUOTE]It's like that for new faces everywhere. After they see you have been and will be around for a while it changes drastically almost over night. Yet, the basic rule of thumb is negotiations are seldom expected to be a win win in anything. The better negotiator or person with the capital, in that order, generally is expected to come out with the better of the bargain. You have no spine you get taken advantage of. Then there is spine and stupid.

[QUOTE=Gas6459;1607021]If someone can figure out how to deal with this then they have mastered the DR. As ridiculous as it may sound most Americans, Europeans, and Asian cultures in business expect reciprocity, if you are nice to me I won't forget you and therefore I will use you or your business in the future. Well this economic and social rule does not apply in the DR, In any manner (girls, taxi drivers, hotel clerks, waitresses). In general its what I can get from you for as much as possible, now; and that's it, who care s about an hour from now or tomorrow. I can truly say for me this is hard to get around because I've been embedded to think otherwise, hell even Haitian's who are the the poorest and for that matter unluckiest country of the Caribbean have honor, dignity and pride 100 fold more than most people in the DR, you figure it out, I've stopped trying.[/QUOTE]Here here, I agree with you 100%. Things do improve some when the provider or waiter, bartender etc see you over and over trip after trip but not nearly as much as other latin american countries. I really like the DR and I have been 5 times this year so far. In all honesty if the DR could change there way of thinking just a little I would go twice as much and spend twice as much. Also, each time I leave I feel as though I need a bath and a detox to cleanse me from all the attempted scams, and rip off attempts that make me feel dirty.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1607814]You are aware of the culture. That is the most important thing. You don't have to sink to that level but you need to be aware. You can behave honorably and treat service providers fairly but if you expect the same in return you will be disappointed, angry, ripped off or worse. Expect the rip off attempt and when it comes, make it clear you know it and won't have any part of it.

Have fun.[/QUOTE]This is a different area. But relevant. My return trip on Caribe Tours bus from SD to Charimicos, I watched how obsessed most of the passengers behaved when it was time to board the bus. Generally In the states, you would likely see an organized line formed with each person waiting their turn to board. But not this bunch. They acted like the way many of them drive in the congested cities and communities in the DR. Get in where you fit in.

Same thing happened at the rest stop. No organization. Just a mob of people swarming the counter pushing and shoving just to get snacks. And nobody there with the sense to establish order to avoid chaos. You almost see the same thing at airports. But airports establish some organization. And usually dominican travelers are mixed together with non dom who aint used to having to tolerate people who may lack home training or common sense. This is not to say all dominicans lack home training or act barbaric.

Which reminds me of the time I was at the Orange counter in the Playero in Sosua, and some 40 or 50 ish dom woman stepped in front of me and others while I was waiting. She was trying to get minutes put on her phone. I was pleased that the Orange rep ignored that ladies attempt to bogard the line, and took care of me after she finished with the previous customer. She made it clear to that woman that she had to wait. The look on that womans face was priceless. She just knew she was going to get serviced ahead of everybody else.

To the contrary. While in La Vega yesterday, outside of the general hustle and bustle around town, I enjoyed experiencing a more easy going and respectable representation of dominican life. Hung out with a friend whose family owns a construction business. I got to see the white collar segment of their operation. The owner, his dad was 71 yrs old sitting at his desk. It was a beautiful office building with friendly staff. A great example to show that everyone does not follow the same pattern of fucked up behavior we see in other places. In fact, maybe we shouldn't call some of the things we see to be dominican culture.

In this environment and others throughout the DR , I doubt much of the crap we talk about or experience would be tolerated.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1609973]This is a different area. But relevant. My return trip on Caribe Tours bus from SD to Charimicos, I watched how obsessed most of the passengers behaved when it was time to board the bus. Generally In the states, you would likely see an organized line formed with each person waiting their turn to board. But not this bunch. They acted like the way many of them drive in the congested cities and communities in the DR. Get in where you fit in.

Same thing happened at the rest stop. No organization. Just a mob of people swarming the counter pushing and shoving just to get snacks. And nobody there with the sense to establish order to avoid chaos. You almost see the same thing at airports. But airports establish some organization. And usually dominican travelers are mixed together with non dom who aint used to having to tolerate people who may lack home training or common sense. This is not to say all dominicans lack home training or act barbaric.

[/QUOTE]I am not saying this to be contrary, but over the last decade I have taken Caribe Tours buses to and from Santo Domingo and Santiago loads and loads of times and have never, ever witnessed the kind of behavior you have described. In my experience the passengers get on the bus in a fairly orderly fashion, with some people forming a kind of line to put their baggage in the lower compartment, and others showing their tickets to the driver, who checks they are on the right bus, and climbing up into the bus and selecting seats inside.

On arrival at Santiago the driver will announce that there is a ten minute break and many passengers for Puerto Plata and Charamicos will dismount to use the bathroom or get a snack from the snack bar and then wait until the driver opens the door again so that they can get back on and return to their seats. Sometimes a few passengers will hop off and on again quickly at La Vega, but this is not really a rest stop. People will usually wait patiently and respectfully for the old and the infirm and assist them as needs be.

On the journey the drivers will sometimes announce that there is to be no eating on the bus. This is somewhat ignored, but the idea is to prevent the bus from getting littered with used wrappers and crumbs and spilled food, or the seats stained, and the majority of passengers respect that.

Have never, ever seen the pushing and shoving you describe. Honestly. Likewise at the airport at Puerto Plata, Santo Domingo, or Santiago have never seen any disorderly behavior in over one hundred times at the airport.

The only thing I would agree with is that at Santo Domingo it is a bit difficult to understand the overhead announcements due to distortion-the bus now boarding at platform muffle is the muffle bus to muffle" and so you tend to have people anxiously wandering about and checking if they are getting on the right bus.

I don't know if you just perceive things differently from me, or you just happened to fall in with a bad crowd.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1609973]

Which reminds me of the time I was at the Orange counter in the Playero in Sosua, and some 40 or 50 ish dom woman stepped in front of me and others while I was waiting. She was trying to get minutes put on her phone. I was pleased that the Orange rep ignored that ladies attempt to bogard the line, and took care of me after she finished with the previous customer. She made it clear to that woman that she had to wait. The look on that womans face was priceless. She just knew she was going to get serviced ahead of everybody else.
[/QUOTE]It was reasonable that she was asked to wait, but when you have situations where there are customers with different needs, like 1) adding more minutes, a quick cash transaction, and 2) choosing a new phone and setting up a contract, a lengthy process possible involving a larger sum of money, it does not make a whole lot of sense for the business to make the former wait in line for the latter, so it is the business model that is the problem.

I remember I used to buy minutes at the Orange counter in the Tropical Supermercado in Puerto Plata and this process involved two employees, one to ring up the cash and the other to take my phone and add the minutes. It would be frustrating to wait for another customer with some complex transaction only to find that their system for recharges was down today. The solution is automation and I believe Playero now has a self-service machine where customers can add minutes without bothering a customer service representative. If my memory is wrong, then there is certainly a self service machine at the Metro bus terminal across the road.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1610021]It was reasonable that she was asked to wait, but when you have situations where there are customers with different needs, like 1) adding more minutes, a quick cash transaction, and 2) choosing a new phone and setting up a contract, a lengthy process possible involving a larger sum of money, it does not make a whole lot of sense for the business to make the former wait in line for the latter, so it is the business model that is the problem.

I remember I used to buy minutes at the Orange counter in the Tropical Supermercado in Puerto Plata and this process involved two employees, one to ring up the cash and the other to take my phone and add the minutes. It would be frustrating to wait for another customer with some complex transaction only to find that their system for recharges was down today. The solution is automation and I believe Playero now has a self-service machine where customers can add minutes without bothering a customer service representative. If my memory is wrong, then there is certainly a self service machine at the Metro bus terminal across the road.[/QUOTE]No Frannie, Dominicans are just rude like that. It amazes me when gringos who live there miss the obvious. My second trip to the DR many years a go I was in Sosua at a store waiting 2nd in line. Everyone kept going ahead of me like I wasn't there and the cashier didn't say shit. I got pissed and gave the next dude who jumped in front of me a hard look. He was a Dominican from NY and understood my look. He said" look bro what you have to do is say fuck that I'm next". I said I'm next when the next person tried to bypass me and the lady finally realized I was there.

Look at the way they drive in the DR, completely reckless and disrespectful. Customer service in General is fucked up. One time I was at SDQ and it was a long as line of about 50 people waiting to ckeckin for their flight. Two Dominican dudes were behind the counter and I could tell by their body language that they were open for business but they were bullshitting. I went up and said are you open and one of the dudes waves non-chalontly to the next person in line.

Have you ever noticed how most guys in the DR act like having a job is punishment. When have you ever been greeted with a smile and " May I help you Sir? I never have. The DR is an unorganized, lazy, disrespectful culture and it doesn't take but 5 minutes after landing to understand this. But it has some fine open minded sexy women so we take the trade off.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1610017]I am not saying this to be contrary, but over the last decade I have taken Caribe Tours buses to and from Santo Domingo and Santiago loads and loads of times and have never, ever witnessed the kind of behavior you have described. In my experience the passengers get on the bus in a fairly orderly fashion, with some people forming a kind of line to put their baggage in the lower compartment, and others showing their tickets to the driver, who checks they are on the right bus, and climbing up into the bus and selecting seats inside.

On arrival at Santiago the driver will announce that there is a ten minute break and many passengers for Puerto Plata and Charamicos will dismount to use the bathroom or get a snack from the snack bar and then wait until the driver opens the door again so that they can get back on and return to their seats. Sometimes a few passengers will hop off and on again quickly at La Vega, but this is not really a rest stop. People will usually wait patiently and respectfully for the old and the infirm and assist them as needs be.

On the journey the drivers will sometimes announce that there is to be no eating on the bus. This is somewhat ignored, but the idea is to prevent the bus from getting littered with used wrappers and crumbs and spilled food, or the seats stained, and the majority of passengers respect that.

Have never, ever seen the pushing and shoving you describe. Honestly. Likewise at the airport at Puerto Plata, Santo Domingo, or Santiago have never seen any disorderly behavior in over one hundred times at the airport.

The only thing I would agree with is that at Santo Domingo it is a bit difficult to understand the overhead announcements due to distortion-the bus now boarding at platform muffle is the muffle bus to muffle" and so you tend to have people anxiously wandering about and checking if they are getting on the right bus.

I don't know if you just perceive things differently from me, or you just happened to fall in with a bad crowd.[/QUOTE]I took the Caribe Tours bus from Santo Domingo to Sosua two weeks ago and it was total chaos getting our bags loaded under and getting on the bus, no sense of a line / queue to be found at all.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1610031]
Have you ever noticed how most guys in the DR act like having a job is punishment. When have you ever been greeted with a smile and " May I help you Sir? I never have. The DR is an unorganized, lazy, disrespectful culture and it doesn't take but 5 minutes after landing to understand this. But it has some fine open minded sexy women so we take the trade off.[/QUOTE]Ain't that the MF truth. But its not just the guys include the women. Its like they are mad because they have to serve us. Costumer service is not a prior in DR. I tell all me friends that off the rip. I don't know how many times I walked out of a store or restaurant from bad service. Its like they think you have all the time in the world. I have learned when I order something to ask for my check as soon as I get my food.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1610031]No Frannie, Dominicans are just rude like that. It amazes me when gringos who live there miss the obvious.

Look at the way they drive in the DR, completely reckless and disrespectful. [/QUOTE]Maybe people who live there do not experience the same things. I don't find the driving that bad in the DR. I have not driven a lot there, maybe 20 days, but it wasn't that bad, and I have never even had a near miss, and I have been a passenger a lot and had plenty of chance to observe, not to mention riding motocochos.

[QUOTE]
Customer service in General is fucked up. One time I was at SDQ and it was a long as line of about 50 people waiting to check in for their flight. Two Dominican dudes were behind the counter and I could tell by their body language that they were open for business but they were bullshitting. I went up and said are you open and one of the dudes waves nonchalantly to the next person in line.[/QUOTE]Well, there were fifty people in line, not fifty people pushing and shoving. Since you had got to the front of the line, evidently it was moving, or were you trying to shove your way ahead of others? I imagine you caught your flight with time to spare.

[QUOTE]
Have you ever noticed how most guys in the DR act like having a job is punishment. When have you ever been greeted with a smile and " May I help you Sir? I never have. The DR is an unorganized, lazy, disrespectful culture and it doesn't take but 5 minutes after landing to understand this.[/QUOTE]I find that within five minutes of landing there are all kinds of people offering to help me by carrying my baggage and finding me a taxi, showing me where the ATM is or the bathroom, etc.

For example last time I landed in Santiago a guy driving a limousine for one of the expensive hotels called a buddy on his cell phone who had a publico taxi for me and he came and picked me up from the limo a few hundred yards outside the airport and took me to Caribe Tours for a very reasonable price instead of the airport taxi mafia price. The difference from the US is noticeable, where a limo driver for an expensive hotel would be unlikely to even speak to me if I was not his passenger, never mind get me a taxi outside the airport.

Of course these Dominicans are working for profit on behalf of themselves, their friends, or their family members and are not trained by some corporate in-service to say "Have a great day!" to everyone in an obviously insincere way, but so what?

I have always found the people at airport check ins to be reasonably polite and often quite conversational or even flirtatious in some cases.

I think what we are talking about here is that some members of this board are being discriminated against for one of the following reasons:

1. Race or nationality.

2. Identified as or suspected to be a sex tourist.

3. Not a good Spanish speaker.

As a result they are getting a rather distorted view of Dominican culture, which is a shame.

On the other hand there are some occasions where their performance might be improved. When I went to the Emergency Room with leg pain, the middle-aged female ER doc took a quick look at it and suggested I might have a pulled muscle and sent me home. The next day I returned and she immediately diagnosed cellulitis and sent me to see a surgeon in case I needed to have my leg cut off. However after attending daily for five days for injections in the butt, it was decided to let me keep the leg, and eventually I made a full recovery. Starting on antibiotics a day earlier probably would have vastly improved the course of the infection, but then again medical treatment costs only a tiny fraction of what it costs in the US, and perhaps in the US I would have had to wait 24 hours for an appointment anyway and would not have gotten a free evaluation in the ER.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1610034]I took the Caribe Tours bus from Santo Domingo to Sosua two weeks ago and it was total chaos getting our bags loaded under and getting on the bus, no sense of a line / queue to be found at all.[/QUOTE]Total chaos? Honestly, I swear I have used these buses many times and never experienced anything like that. And I have traveled with baggage in the lower compartment and the process was pretty simple. They give you a matching claim ticket so that someone else can't grab your bag at an intermediate stop, then you get on the bus. Perhaps the fact that you were traveling with someone semi-disabled made everything seem harder.

[quote=frannie;1610297]maybe people who live there do not experience the same things. i don't find the driving that bad in the dr. i have not driven a lot there, maybe 20 days, but it wasn't that bad, and i have never even had a near miss, and i have been a passenger a lot and had plenty of chance to observe, not to mention riding motocochos.

well, there were fifty people in line, not fifty people pushing and shoving. since you had got to the front of the line, evidently it was moving, or were you trying to shove your way ahead of others? i imagine you caught your flight with time to spare...[/quote]i think people who live there, are accustomed to the bullshit so its easy for them to overlook it, whereas someone who isn't used to the bullshit might call it more accurately. i agree with you about the busses as i have taken both carib tours and metro about 20 times each, never had a problem. but i have never been given a ticket for my luggage. they have three compartments for luggage, one for sosua, one for santiago, and one for puerto plata. so they don't open that compartment unless they are at that stop.

i have seen on multiple occasions motochonchos make left hand turns from the right lane without even looking. in sd the cars blow the horns for no reasons. there is no speed limit anywhere. traffic lights aren't always obeyed. i would call this organized driving.

in the line with 50 people i was at the end and the line wasn't moving. in fact no one was at the ticket counter except the two dominicans bullshitting around.

i've heard the medical treatment is good and cheap so no beef there.

It is inane to compare the US with a third world country. Indeed, being a native of India, I know, how awful the civic sense there is. On the other hand, if I am so much into civic sense, I may as well stay home in "sex prison"! Each place comes with its own baggage.

Let me put it in this perspective for you. Thanks for sharing.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1610050] Costumer service is not a prior in DR. I tell all me friends that off the rip. I don't know how many times I walked out of a store or restaurant from bad service. Its like they think you have all the time in the world. I have learned when I order something to ask for my check as soon as I get my food.[/QUOTE]Well, could you give a list of a few of the restaurants where you have walked out because you could not get served? Perhaps we could arrange an ISG boycott of those restaurants that refused to serve you?

And which stores or businesses are ignoring you?

I have never experienced that in the DR, though I remember one time walking out of a restaurant in England as I was tired of waiting to be served, and it is particularly a problem in bars in England, or it was when I was younger, and also in some stores. Several years ago on one occasion I did almost walk out of Rocky's restaurant in Sosua having ordered ribs, which is supposed to be a specialty of the house. The order took about an hour to fill and the ribs were OK. I think the excuse was that the chef was sick or something.

Not so long ago in Jacksonville, Florida, I went to a fast food outlet called Popeye's Louisiana Kitchen that sells fried chicken. I ordered from the menu a single spicy chicken breast with biscuit and a side order of red beans and rice, and had to wait about 20 minutes, because, the sales clerk told me, a large order had just taken all the spicy chicken breasts. I eventually got served, though the chicken breast seemed slightly underdone.

The next time I went back and gave the same order and got the same story, with the very same excuse from a different sales clerk. I waited, but somewhat irritated. The third and last time I went there, I placed the same order, and got the same old same old response and had to wait even longer. Eventually I asked for my money back--yes, they make you pay before you get your food--and the manager made me the massively generous offer of two free chicken wings if I would wait a bit longer while they went outside and killed a chicken, or whatever they do. I can't remember how it ended, but I have not been back there since as I cannot be bothered dealing with them any more and the chicken is usually all squishy and undercooked inside.

So it is not just the DR where slow or inefficient service is an issue. I would not object so much if Popeye's was honest, and said, "Sir, we have spicy chicken breasts on the menu, but to be honest we don't sell many, and we will have to get one out of the freezer, defrost it, and then fry it for you. Would you prefer to order something else, that we can serve you quicker?" But of course the corporation they work for teaches them to lie and pretend that the item is so popular that they are always out of it! At least that is my hypothesis.

Usually in stores in the DR in my experience there is a line-up of three or four people to serve you and no customers. Ditto at the post office. Ditto at Pappaterra. Some places have a "take a ticket" system to get served, like Viva cell phone in Puerto Plata so that everyone gets seen in turn. Gas station, check. Cooking gas station, check. Pharmacy, check. Internet cafe, check. Barbershop, check. Massage parlors, check. Stationery store, check. Home furnishings store, check. Ice cream parlor, check. Bus station ticket office, check. Hotels, check. Haitian souvenir vendors, very attentive. Shoe repair guy, check. Colmados, check.

I can't recall a single business where I could not get service, and I lived in the DR continuously for more than two years.

Always get seen in the Emergency Room at Clinica Hernandez in Puerto Plata or behind Hotel Europa in a couple of minutes at most. You do have to wait in turn for lab work at the Clinica Hernandez at certain times of day, yes. Never have to wait long for dentist appointments as they usually run on time. Buses always leave right on time.

As I said before, it is a sad reflection of Dominican business culture if some potential customers are discriminated against because of some kind of prejudice, because it does not have to be that way, and the end result is that potential visitors get a skewed perspective on Dominican culture.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1610433]Let me put it in this perspective for you. Thanks for sharing.[/QUOTE]Not at all. Sharing information is the whole point of this board.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1610461]So it is not just the DR where slow or inefficient service is an issue. I would not object so much if Popeye's was honest, and said, "Sir, we have spicy chicken breasts on the menu, but to be honest we don't sell many, and we will have to get one out of the freezer, defrost it, and then fry it for you. Would you prefer to order something else, that we can serve you quicker?" But of course the corporation they work for teaches them to lie and pretend that the item is so popular that they are always out of it! At least that is my hypothesis.[/QUOTE]I have been to several restaurants in the DR where they give me a menu and the first 3 options I choose they do not even have. They also have beverages listed that they don't have. It would be easier if they just told me what they DO have instead of handing me a damn menu full of shit that they don't have and me getting my mouth all ready for something that is not available. Of course I have walked out of those places as well. But like the man said, it is a trade off that I am willing to make.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1610485]I have been to several restaurants in the DR where they give me a menu and the first 3 options I choose they do not even have. They also have beverages listed that they don't have. It would be easier if they just told me what they DO have instead of handing me a damn menu full of shit that they don't have and me getting my mouth all ready for something that is not available. Of course I have walked out of those places as well. But like the man said, it is a trade off that I am willing to make.[/QUOTE]That tends to be the case anywhere where a restaurant is selling fresh foods. Obviously you cannot reprint a whole photographed and laminated menu if pineapples are not available today, or the fishing boat broke down, or they had not caught a certain type of fish, or the restaurant is out of shrimps. Alternatively you can just have a simple typed sheet that you print out daily so that it is always updated, but probably no pictures for the language-challenged.

I often drink juices, so I will just ask first what they have available, because they never have everything listed. For the food too, I will often just ask what they have first instead of referring to the menu. "Do you have shrimps? No, OK, so lets go with pork chops. How about some papa puree, yes? And let's have the steamed vegetables too. No side salad. And bring me a glass of lemonade and a bottle of water and some garlic bread. And when I have eaten that I will have a cup of cafe con leche. OK?

Personally I liked the kind of menu I saw in Greece in the 60's. Al restaurants had the same menu.

There were about a hundred dishes listed on the sheet in 4 columns, Greek in Greek script, English, German, French, with a blank column next to each item for the price. The restaurants would just mark a price next to the items that were available and leave blank the items that were not available, so typically you might have ten out of a hundred dishes actually available, but the upside was that it was correctly translated in a number of languages and you could see at a glance what they had. It would not be a bad idea if DR restaurants adopted this system, so you could have Spanish, English, German, French, Russian, and Italian all on the same page and know what was available today.

However the DR just takes a bit of getting used to, but on the whole the food is pretty good.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1610297] I think what we are talking about here is that some members of this board are being discriminated against for one of the following reasons:

1. Race or nationality.
2. Identified as or suspected to be a sex tourist.
3. Not a good Spanish speaker.[/QUOTE]I would think that the first two are unlikely to be the reasons, unless you are speaking of reverse discrimination which I would not know about. The third is a strong possibility and the fourth one which you have not added, is personal bias. Some have a balanced view as we see here with some and some others have a tendency to look at the world with their jaundiced eyes or, never having seen anything beyond their state in the US, are ill equipped.

Having said that, I wish (and it ain't going to happen) the DR does a little better on driving. The honking gives me a heart attack every time as we are not used to it and the moto conchos overtaking from the right. But the value of life is different out there but overall, Vive la difference!

[quote=mrgogo;1610332]i think people who live there, are accustomed to the bullshit so its easy for them to overlook it, whereas someone who isn't used to the bullshit might call it more accurately. i agree with you about the busses as i have taken both carib tours and metro about 20 times each, never had a problem. but i have never been given a ticket for my luggage. they have three compartments for luggage, one for sosua, one for santiago, and one for puerto plata. so they don't open that compartment unless they are at that stop.

i have seen on multiple occasions motochonchos make left hand turns from the right lane without even looking. in sd the cars blow the horns for no reasons. there is no speed limit anywhere. traffic lights aren't always obeyed. i would call this organized driving.

in the line with 50 people i was at the end and the line wasn't moving. in fact no one was at the ticket counter except the two dominicans bullshitting around.

i've heard the medical treatment is good and cheap so no beef there.[/quote]when i took caribe tours from santo domingo to sosua two weeks ago we were given tickets for our luggage. they had different colored tickets for different destinations and the guy handed me the wrong color ticket and i told him about it and his response was "no importa", i got on the bus shaking my head.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1610549]When I took Caribe Tours from Santo Domingo to Sosua two weeks ago we were given tickets for our luggage. They had different colored tickets for different destinations and the guy handed me the wrong color ticket and I told him about it and his response was "no importa", I got on the bus shaking my head.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mani, it's been over a year since I took Carib tours it's usually metro. What did your friend think of the DR?

Your life is your choice never complain.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1610513]That tends to be the case anywhere where a restaurant is selling fresh foods. Obviously you cannot reprint a whole photographed and laminated menu if pineapples are not available today, or the fishing boat broke down, or they had not caught a certain type of fish, or the restaurant is out of shrimps. Alternatively you can just have a simple typed sheet that you print out daily so that it is always updated, but probably no pictures for the language-challenged.

I often drink juices, so I will just ask first what they have available, because they never have everything listed. For the food too, I will often just ask what they have first instead of referring to the menu. "Do you have shrimps? No, OK, so lets go with pork chops. How about some papa puree, yes? And let's have the steamed vegetables too. No side salad. And bring me a glass of lemonade and a bottle of water and some garlic bread. And when I have eaten that I will have a cup of cafe con leche. OK?..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Frannie;1610513]That tends to be the case anywhere where a restaurant is selling fresh foods. [/QUOTE]Excellent way of ordering in the DR. Your way.

Your story reminded me of Japanese eating places. Of course there is no question of having it in any other languages but nothing is as fresh as Japanes seafood. The eating houses have their daily stuff. Written typically in their calligraphy, stuck to the wall or on a string. In addition, a knowledgeable person gets to know the chef and asks about what is available. One improvises while eating. Ordering a bit of this and a bit of that and ends up with a fantastic meal. My experience of course is second hand without the language, visiting such places with locals but that is how you get to know the real country rather than the touristy menu cards with pictures or fake food in the window so one can point at that.

[quote=tempoecorto;1610523]

having said that, i wish (and it ain't going to happen) the dr does a little better on driving. the honking gives me a heart attack every time as we are not used to it and the moto conchos overtaking from the right. but the value of life is different out there but overall, vive la difference![/quote]well, yes, but i think most people do drive carefully. a lot of the problems stem from the poor condition of the roads, with many potholes, deep drains, and homes and businesses opening directly onto busy roads. a lot of accidents seem to involve poorly maintained heavy goods vehicles, and then i am sure that alcohol-impaired driving is a significant factor in accidents. throw some pretty atrocious weather at times into the mix, along with wet roads slippery with spilled oil and leaves and overloaded bikes and cars and there is a lot of potential for accidents.

the moto concho guys come in for a lot of stick for making left turns in eccentric ways, but a guy who i knew who had just bought a motor bike a few days earlier was very seriously injured when he stopped to make a left turn and waited in the middle of the road in cabarete and was hit by a dump truck that obviously was not paying attention, at least not paying attention to him. the moto conchos at all costs avoid stopping and waiting in the middle of the road to make a left turn with very good reason, i would say.

incidentally, when i first came to the us, i was pretty shocked at the way in which vehicles overtook on the inside on multilane highways. in britain and i think the rest of europe that would be an absolute no-no that would get you arrested.

if you are driving in the dr in a heavily populated area, you need to be very, very careful and watch everything in your field of vision.

people have said that there are no speed limits in the dr. this is not true, but it is true that they are rarely enforced due to a general lack of resources. for example on the samana highway from santo domingo to nagua, the maximum speed limit is 50 mph (80 kph), and you will see some signs, but probably no police cars or radar traps. i think you exceed the speed limit at your own risk, but the road does carry a certain amount of local traffic and i really wouldn't want to hit a child on a bicycle going at 70 mph, even if they were at fault.

maybe you are right about the discrimination thing, but it must be a pretty unpleasant experience to go to a country where you are never sure if you can get served in a restaurant. that was one of the reasons so many talented american jazz musicians emigrated to europe in the 1930's and louis armstrong was greeted at the train station in copenhagen in 1933 by ten thousand people throwing flowers, a distinct contrast to touring in the southern usa where even using the bathroom could be a problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzvqvnyjmc4

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1610034]I took the Caribe Tours bus from Santo Domingo to Sosua two weeks ago and it was total chaos getting our bags loaded under and getting on the bus, no sense of a line / queue to be found at all.[/QUOTE]Of course there was chaos, you arent blind. You saw an example of what me and my buddy saw when we attempted to board the CT bus in SD. Instead of the formation of a long line, people formed like a wide mob towards the bus driver and entrance door. With a few anxious passengers going around other people ahead of them so they could get on the bus 1st. In fact, that was my 1st time ever boarding in SD to go back to Charimicos.

Last year I used Metro and Caribe Tours to go back and forth between Sosua / Charimicos and Santiago. When we boarded in Charimicos it was orderly. When we boarded in Santiago it was orderly. I never got off any of those buses to get snacks. So I never had an opportunity to see any chaotic scene at the snack area in Santiago like I did last week at the exact same stop. Obviously if one doesn't get off the bus, they arent going to see it or have an account of how people may behave there.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1610021]It was reasonable that she was asked to wait, but when you have situations where there are customers with different needs, like 1) adding more minutes, a quick cash transaction, and 2) choosing a new phone and setting up a contract, a lengthy process possible involving a larger sum of money, it does not make a whole lot of sense for the business to make the former wait in line for the latter, so it is the business model that is the problem.

I remember I used to buy minutes at the Orange counter in the Tropical Supermercado in Puerto Plata and this process involved two employees, one to ring up the cash and the other to take my phone and add the minutes. It would be frustrating to wait for another customer with some complex transaction only to find that their system for recharges was down today. The solution is automation and I believe Playero now has a self-service machine where customers can add minutes without bothering a customer service representative. If my memory is wrong, then there is certainly a self service machine at the Metro bus terminal across the road.[/QUOTE]Quite frankly, that woman probably wanted more than only adding minutes. Because the rep listened to her briefly and told her to wait instead of directing her to the machine. There are two machines and both were working quite fine that day.

Like Mr G said, enough locals are just rude like that. A common sense move a typical individual with a certain level of home training could do, is simply acknowledge the person who is next on line, and indicate in some way that they only have a quick transaction, or they just want to ask a quick question. Not bogard the whole line.

Bottom line, even dominicans / locals have to deal with (and accept) having to make adjustments to some of their behavior and customs in the presence of others / foreigners.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1610549]When I took Caribe Tours from Santo Domingo to Sosua two weeks ago we were given tickets for our luggage. They had different colored tickets for different destinations and the guy handed me the wrong color ticket and I told him about it and his response was "no importa", I got on the bus shaking my head.[/QUOTE]That type of experience and the attitude following, definitely reinforces for me, that one should always maintain responsibility for anything important to them, and not assume someone else is going to look out for their interests / personal effects or that those entrusted will do their job competently. Last year when I used a Metro bus, I did not see any tight security or concern to make sure someone didn't walk off with someone elses bag. People were reaching for bags and walking off. I was a little concerned about my own bag, and watched everything from the window to be sure I didnt see my bag. My concern wouldnt be other passengers that much, but the possibility of slick hustlers hanging around bus stations looking for shit to steal.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1610872] My concern wouldnt be other passengers that much, but the possibility of slick hustlers hanging around bus stations looking for shit to steal.[/QUOTE]I think the bus companies are fully aware of this and have some kind of security presence at bus stations. It is also no doubt the reason why Caribe Tours has introduced a ticket system for picking up bags. Of course there could also be the issue of people claiming to have had bags stolen who never had any bags.

That is why they will allow passengers to get off at intermediate stops like Navarete or Montellano, but they will not open the baggage compartments except at official stops or bus stations. So if you have large baggage and you want to get off at Navarete, when you get to Santiago you have to bring that baggage inside the bus with you.

Remember that the Caribe Express group runs the equivalent of UPS and Western Union in the DR with a packet delivery service that utilizes the bus routes, plus a bank, so they are not complete strangers to the idea of security.

They also offer foreign exchange and today's rate is 43.30 on the US dollar.

However, I would always keep my passport, cell phone, cash and debit and credit cards on my person within the bus. I have nothing else of any value when I travel.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1610760]The moto concho guys come in for a lot of stick for making left turns in eccentric ways, ...

Incidentally, when I first came to the US, I was pretty shocked at the way in which vehicles overtook on the inside on multilane highways. In Britain and I think the rest of Europe that would be an absolute no-no that would get you arrested.

Maybe you are right about the discrimination thing, but it must be a pretty unpleasant experience to go to a country where you are never sure if you can get served in a restaurant.[/QUOTE]1. That moto concho story was sobering. I never saw it from that perspective. I typically see young folks at the traffic intersections running helter skelter and was ascribing the erratic moves to impatience but that security part you alluded to is relevant.

2. You are right. "passing" parallel on roads of at least 3 lanes is legal here. I discovered when I first came to this country and went for my driving test, once again. Having lived and learned driving in EU, it was curious for me as well where only one lane is marked for passing. Having said that, the thrill of driving at 200 KM + in Germany, Switzerland and Italy is etched deep in memory, which however calls for extreme attention to your surroundings. Speaking from personal experience.

3. The "Armstrong" experience is remarkable. Indeed many others found it as soldiers on that continent during WWII. Having said that and this is the anniversary year of WWI, Britain has a fairly sad history as a nation on that count despite having imported soldiers from colonies, continental Europe did a lot better even though Nazi Germany was not good either.

Hi fellow tourists and mongers,

I will be in DR from Nov 26-30. It has been 6 years since my last trip so obviously prices have changed.

My idea is:

Spent a day in Boca Chica (I arrive at night) find a hot girls and get a moderately priced hotel or just to to a Cabaña. I wonder what are the good places to find girls for a couple of hours. I am interested in Casa de Chicas mainly and then strip clubs / bars.

Then spend the rest of my time in Sto. Domingo. Last time, I was in El Conde and a guy approached me talking about Casa de Chicas, etc. He took to me to a really nice place with awesome girls! Is El Conde still the place for hooking up or not anymore?

So the same info I would ask (Casa de Chicas and strip club / bars).

Hope to hear good places / weblinks or suggestions. If you happen to be there let me know.

When you wrote "casa de chicas" I think you meant "casa de cita. " The touts will know what you mean if you say either. Your questions are asked and answered many times. Spend a few minutes going through the forum posts and then ask about anything that isn't clear.

[QUOTE=Afrodisiaco;1612176]Hi fellow tourists and mongers. I will be in DR from Nov 26-30. It has been 6 years since my last trip so obviously prices have changed.

My idea is:

Spent a day in Boca Chica (I arrive at night) find a hot girls and get a moderately priced hotel or just to to a Cabaa. I wonder what are the good places to find girls for a couple of hours. I am interested in Casa de Chicas mainly and then strip clubs / bars.

Then spend the rest of my time in Sto. Domingo. Last time, I was in El Conde and a guy approached me talking about Casa de Chicas, etc. He took to me to a really nice place with awesome girls! Is El Conde still the place for hooking up or not anymore?

So the same info I would ask (Casa de Chicas and strip club / bars).

Hope to hear good places / weblinks or suggestions. If you happen to be there let me know.[/QUOTE]

Is anyone around Aug 28th-Sep 11th?

In SD on the 8th.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1612802]Is anyone around Aug 28th-Sep 11th?[/QUOTE]

Is GBP open 7 days a week? What time does it close?

Also, I am traveling with a best friend of mine who just got divorced from his wife of 18 years he met freshman year of University. I want to bring him into the hobby, but not sure if he is too strait laced for PfP. I figure I got one shot at taking him someplace "accidently" where sex is for sale and hope the chicas are hot enough to tempt him. Otherwise I am going to have to sneek around at odd hours to monger, which kind of sucks.

I do not know the DR, but thought I might take him to a stripclub like Foxy's near our hotel and be like "You can have sex here for money? I am suprised too! Hey, as long as we are here why not give it a try?

He just got a new GF on match.com and I am not a big fan. He needs to live a little after being with one girl his entire adult life.

I have a lady coming to see me on a Tuesday. She loves Bachata as do I. Anyone know where we can go to indulge our passions. One thing about SD is hat week days you have to hunt for night life /.

Teleofertas at the northeast corner of Gomez and Kennedy. Full disclosure, the music is played loudly there.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1615123]I have a lady coming to see me on a Tuesday. She loves Bachata as do I. Anyone know where we can go to indulge our passions. One thing about SD is hat week days you have to hunt for night life /.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1615123]I have a lady coming to see me on a Tuesday. She loves Bachata as do I. Anyone know where we can go to indulge our passions. One thing about SD is hat week days you have to hunt for night life /.[/QUOTE]No need to hunt. All the clubs are right there on Avenida Venezuela. Just take a taxi there and get out and walk into the club that you choose.

Is there anything happening on Tuesday night.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1615254]No need to hunt. All the clubs are right there on Avenida Venezuela. Just take a taxi there and get out and walk into the club that you choose.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1615490]Is there anything happening on Tuesday night.[/QUOTE]No idea. Check it out and let us know.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1615490]Is there anything happening on Tuesday night.[/QUOTE]Every night is good someplace on Avenida Venezuela. In particular, I like a club called Euforia (great for NY style Salsa dancing). But like Mr E said, just take a taxi there and walk down the street. The music you hear will give you an good indication of which club will be good.

I just want to say that the report from Camaro is a great report for those venturing to the capital Santo Dominigo.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.inf=1#post1530489[/url]

I wished I had read his report when I was in Boca Chica for 3 days. I only went to the capital from Boca Chica to walk in the colonial part, and eat some great sandwiches I found, not knowing that there were many places to find good action and chicas as mentioned in the report. Also, I experienced the inconvenience of taking Caribe Tours instead of El Metro in going back to Sosua. The report mentions the pros and cons of Caribe tours vs. Metro. If you are returning in the evening to Sosua from the Capital or anywhere else like Santiago is best to get in the metro, because Caribe tours drops you off in Charamico which is far from the center of Sosua and is quite dark and isolated area at night and you then have to take some unknown motoconcho (not a wise thing specially for a gringo) to get you out from that area in a hurry (unless you like to hang out with the tigres as Domican called the delinquents or unless you are staying in the Charamicos area). The Metro is better to take when arriving in the evening because it drops you off at the Texaco gas station or Center of Sosua with lots of people circulating and activity there at night time. On the downside, the Metro does not have that many trips per day as Caribe tours.

My PP chica came to the bus station and claims I missed her which turned my plans upside down. I went to my backup who was busy. Oh shit. WhAT to do. No way can I not hit something on my first night. So I go tp Grands and sure enough I see 2 SWs waiting for action. I puledl the trigger and had a very nice session. Chica was between a 6 and a 7 but sex was a 8. She gave light GFE which is rare WITH A FIRST TIME sw and I was satisfied. I found an excellent hotel bargain. 200 yards from Grands / Pacos. Very nice room with AC, flat screen for $32 a night. Room quality is 8 or 9. Decent size and clean as a whistle. The name is Reina Isabel. Phone # 809 687 2880. Location is a 10,price 10, cleaniness 10. Only drawback is wifi is weak. Had to go to lobby where is was very good. Ot looks better then Palaciio and is a third of the price.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1619259]My PP chica came to the bus station and claims I missed her which turned my plans upside down. I went to my backup who was busy. Oh shit. WhAT to do. No way can I not hit something on my first night. So I go tp Grands and sure enough I see 2 SWs waiting for action. I puledl the trigger and had a very nice session. Chica was between a 6 and a 7 but sex was a 8. She gave light GFE which is rare WITH A FIRST TIME sw and I was satisfied. I found an excellent hotel bargain. 200 yards from Grands / Pacos. Very nice room with AC, flat screen for $32 a night. Room quality is 8 or 9. Decent size and clean as a whistle. The name is Reina Isabel. Phone # 809 687 2880. Location is a 10,price 10, cleaniness 10. Only drawback is wifi is weak. Had to go to lobby where is was very good. Ot looks better then Palaciio and is a third of the price.[/QUOTE]$32 is a damn good deal for a room with AC.

Last night was a strange night. I met with a former Sosua pro who is a solid 7. We have been talking for over a year. She is very attractive and has a huge rack. We meet and no chemistry what so ever. In the old days I would have gone through the motions. This time I say this is not going to work. I pay her a mil pesos and send her on her way. It was early evening and my hotel is a half a block from Grands, popular spot for free lancers. I am in a strange mood and had seem some big girl porn and wanted one for the trip. I see this thick extrovert trolling the area and I say why not. She gets to the room and is down for what ever. Lube toys and name that tune she was more then ready. One of my top 3 sessions life time. ' Sometimes you want nice and sometime you want raw. This was raw and good. The talent around Pacos is not bad. It ranges from 6's to 8's. It provides a great fall back if you are having an off night.
I have a babe coming in tonite from Cotui sweet young thing. I am having no mercy. I plan to bang her like a bad girl. I am thinking tonight is cabana night. The hotel is totally chica friendly. The chica offered her cedula and the desk girl looked at her like she was crazy. The hot water is decent. The only negative is the wifi which does not work in the room. However the lobby is comfortable AND has a very strong link. I am enjoying SD and might not get to Sosua. Iam keeping my fingers crossed for tonight. If this session goes well it will make my trip. I am thinking Friday night in Sosua could be a nice cherry on the trip.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1619299]$32 is a damn good deal for a room with AC.[/QUOTE]Upon reading your post, I visited the hotel web site and I was given a price of US $23.75/ day for the last week of Sept. Since I am in country, maybe that is the price quoted for locals. I will find out at check in.

Thank you for the info.

I have company coming so I inquired about a room upgrade. They charged me 38 dollars for the room and helped me move my stuff. The new room has decent internet as I am writing this report in my room. The new room has a bigger bed and better furniture. I also have a Balcony.

Bro,

You have too many SD trips under your belt to be going through this hit and miss newbie type of shit. When I go to SD it's like a homecoming every time. I have three ex Sosua girlfriends that drop everything and come to me. One is complete GFE, I bring gifts for her daughter and we do dates. The other two are for sex only and I pay them well. SD chicas aren't anything like Sosua chicas. SD chicas don't usually do over nighters if you aren't a regular. It's funny because I know SD girls that tell their family they are going to the north coast for a resort job and then start tricking in Sosua. When they move back to SD they act like innocent angels. They go to church, they don't date foreigners for quickies, and they don't go out past 9 pm.

If your Spanish is good and you are generous they will find a way to sneak to you. Old Kool what happened to the sisters? You haven't talked about them once. Did they stand you up?

I don't do the internet thing searching for girls because it all comes down to the chemistry that developed upon meeting them. Damn! You wasted a whole year trying to break this girl and once you get there it's a no go, that's a shame.

If I was you I would double back to the girl that gave you good sex and play that out. I'm getting older and have come to understand that good sex is hit and miss in our sport, so appreciate it if it's good. Have fun and keep the reports coming.

A brother had big dreams of dancing on the ceiling and foursomes in the cabana. Shit got broke down like an 88 Ford Escort. Why court a known hooker for over a year is what I don't understand. For me, hookers are for spur of the moment. You are having a lonely night and can call one up on the spot and say come get this money.

Another reason to have a car. When shit is working out sour in one place you can pick up at the drop of a hat and head to another place. No waiting for buses to run and all of that. I usually play everything by ear and carve nothing in stone. Even when meeting chicks online I don't make any hard plans. I let them know I will be in country soon. When the day comes that I want to deal with them then I call them up and say hey I am here. Where are you and when can you come see me. If I need to get rid of them I can always say I have to go to my boy's crib in such and such city. Then I call one of my boys up and play the role.

But like he did, when all other plans fail, you know where the SWs are.

I have the best sister in my bed as we speak. The chick last night was someone I met on line and had few conversations with and she has a smoking body. There are never quarantees. I wanted to do some new ladies. I am having a great time. Just being honest sometimes shit happens you have be able to move and think on your feet. I want sex not relationships. I have had very good luck with internet chicas. At the end of the day if I get my rocks off and enjoy myself I have no complaints. I am not going to casas because I do not like them. Today I chilled had a massage manicure and pedicure for 1000 pesos. It was awesome. The little sister is in my room looking gorgeous. Hoping this will be my highlight.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1619613]Bro,

You have too many SD trips under your belt to be going through this hit and miss newbie type of shit. When I go to SD it's like a homecoming every time. I have three ex Sosua girlfriends that drop everything and come to me. One is complete GFE, I bring gifts for her daughter and we do dates. The other two are for sex only and I pay them well. SD chicas aren't anything like Sosua chicas. SD chicas don't usually do over nighters if you aren't a regular. It's funny because I know SD girls that tell their family they are going to the north coast for a resort job and then start tricking in Sosua. When they move back to SD they act like innocent angels. They go to church, they don't date foreigners for quickies, and they don't go out past 9 pm.

If your Spanish is good and you are generous they will find a way to sneak to you. Old Kool what happened to the sisters? You haven't talked about them once. Did they stand you up?

I don't do the internet thing searching for girls because it all comes down to the chemistry that developed upon meeting them. Damn! You wasted a whole year trying to break this girl and once you get there it's a no go, that's a shame.

If I was you I would double back to the girl that gave you good sex and play that out. I'm getting older and have come to understand that good sex is hit and miss in our sport, so appreciate it if it's good. Have fun and keep the reports coming.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1619541]Last night was a strange night. I met with a former Sosua pro who is a solid 7. We have been talking for over a year. She is very attractive and has a huge rack. We meet and no chemistry what so ever. In the old days I would have gone through the motions. This time I say this is not going to work. I pay her a mil pesos and send her on her way. It was early evening and my hotel is a half a block from Grands, popular spot for free lancers. I am in a strange mood and had seem some big girl porn and wanted one for the trip. I see this thick extrovert trolling the area and I say why not. She gets to the room and is down for what ever. Lube toys and name that tune she was more then ready. One of my top 3 sessions life time. ' Sometimes you want nice and sometime you want raw. This was raw and good. The talent around Pacos is not bad. It ranges from 6's to 8's. It provides a great fall back if you are having an off night.
I have a babe coming in tonite from Cotui sweet young thing. I am having no mercy. I plan to bang her like a bad girl. I am thinking tonight is cabana night. The hotel is totally chica friendly. The chica offered her cedula and the desk girl looked at her like she was crazy. The hot water is decent. The only negative is the wifi which does not work in the room. However the lobby is comfortable AND has a very strong link. I am enjoying SD and might not get to Sosua. Iam keeping my fingers crossed for tonight. If this session goes well it will make my trip. I am thinking Friday night in Sosua could be a nice cherry on the trip.[/QUOTE]Wow 6's to 8's SW what area are you in? That is a rare find for me is SD. Its mostly like 2's to 6's. 7 if you are lucky. Here I am thinking you had your plate full with those non -pros and repeats and would not have a chance to hunt the SW. Well its good its working out for you. Big gurl made the rankings huh. Why did the desk chica looked as if your chica was crazy? How are things with the non- pros going? I know you spent a lot of time conversing with them before your trip.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1619613]Bro,


I don't do the internet thing searching for girls because it all comes down to the chemistry that developed upon meeting them. Damn! You wasted a whole year trying to break this girl and once you get there it's a no go, that's a shame.

.[/QUOTE]I have tried the internet dating as well but for me it is better to just show up an pick the ones who are right there looking at me. It is fun looking at all those different girls online and thinking about there perfect bodies and how you will help them out but it takes way to much time and it is defiantly hit and miss. Most of the profiles on these sites have not been updated for years so the lady who is telling you she is 36 may be 45 and she may have weighed 110 pounds then but she weighs 185 now. Buyer beware.

Last night in SD and I am with the lil sister of old novia. She gets in town AROund 6 and looks wonderful make up and everything on place. I have a night on the town planned but she say no lets lay low. She gave a good BBJ and was energetic lower. She road me as hard as anyone in my life. I am not a small man where it counts. She got to the bone.






My first time on a Friday night. Women every where. So hard to choose. My first was an attractive domincAN but nothing to write home about. I am a sucker for a nice personality. The lady gave me the blow job of my. I had to pull her off. It was porn movie quality. I AM SO SORRY I spent so much time in SD. I see so many that I want. I ran into WRN in Ricks. He is very cool dude and we buried the hatchet. I am thrilled to be hanging in Classicos. Just hope the milk can make a delivery. There are so many women and it is very early. I am literally fighting them off.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1620135] I ran into WRN in Ricks. He is very cool dude and we buried the hatchet. I am thrilled to be hanging in Classicos. Just hope the milk can make a delivery.[/QUOTE]Do you have pictures of you guys holding hand singing Kumbaya LOL. That's good to hear. You leave tomorrow. I didn't think you were going to make Sosua. Sosua during the week is weak.

Sosua is amazing so many women asking for your dick.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1620137]Do you have pictures of you guys holding hand singing Kumbaya LOL. That's good to hear. You leave tomorrow. I didn't think you were going to make Sosua. Sosua during the week is weak.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1620157]Sosua is amazing so many women asking for your dick.[/QUOTE]Next week at this time I plan to be there.

Haven't seen any reports on GBP lately. Any regulars stopped in lately? Hope its still open LOL. Will be getting back to my usual DR trips soon.

Showdown.

Headed to SDQ 11/12 and want to make sure Napolitano near Conde is chica friendly? Can anyone confirm?

[QUOTE=BlackBye;1621428]Headed to SDQ 11/12 and want to make sure Napolitano near Conde is chica friendly? Can anyone confirm?[/QUOTE]Yes. I brought 2 nonpros there.

I was in SD last week and stayed two nights In Riena Isabela. The place was very nice and 32 dollars a night. It is one block from Pacos / Grands. I give the place a. Big recommendation.

[QUOTE=BlackBye;1621428]Headed to SDQ 11/12 and want to make sure Napolitano near Conde is chica friendly? Can anyone confirm?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1621450]I was in SD last week and stayed two nights In Riena Isabela. The place was very nice and 32 dollars a night. It is one block from Pacos / Grands. I give the place a. Big recommendation.[/QUOTE]Old Kool-- I will be down in SD this weekend. Is this the place?

Gran Hotel Reina Ysabel.

Calle el Conde, 464 esq. Calle Espaillat, Zona Colonial, 10210 Santo Domingo.

Also, Did your room have AC, Hot water, and a window. -- I know seems like a strange question regarding the window but, I have stayed in hotels without windows in the room and I feel like I'm in a jail cel.

Thanks-.

Has everything you want at a very good price. Ask for room 13. It has a balcony and decent internet reception. The closer to the lobby the better the internet.

[QUOTE=Mfins;1621827]Old Kool-- I will be down in SD this weekend. Is this the place?

Gran Hotel Reina Ysabel.

Calle el Conde, 464 esq. Calle Espaillat, Zona Colonial, 10210 Santo Domingo.

Also, Did your room have AC, Hot water, and a window. -- I know seems like a strange question regarding the window but, I have stayed in hotels without windows in the room and I feel like I'm in a jail cel.

Thanks-.[/QUOTE]

quick report. flew into sdq yesterday. picked up my rental car. shout out to mr. e and tempoecorto for the rental car tips in their pms. drove into the city and grabbed my cupid girl. she's a 27 year-old mother of two who claims to be a university student on break. has a nice huge natural rack on her. checked into the resort in juan dolio. $58 per person per night for an all- inclusive, can't be beat. especially this is a slooow season. or this place is just waning in popularity, every year i go there are fewer and fewer guests. i felt like we had the whole resort to ourselves. after my second pop, this morning i was thinking whether we should stay another night, which the girl agreed to. then i was like nah, i have a whole island yet to explore. so i drove her back to her place. of course i gave her a parting "gift" as requested, she said so she could buy eggs, bread and milk for her kids. mind you this is a girl who has a louis vuitton purse (probably fake, but still) michael kors watch (nobody fakes this shit, right?) certainly her kids would be starving without my rd2000.

afterwards i went to have lunch then walked over to la sirena in chinatown. saw an absolute knockout, a shakira look-alike shopping there. chatted her up and got her digits. this girl has a pair of big bolt-on's peeping through her tank top; hair, make-up, nails all done to the nines. turned out she's not dominican. said she's a venezuelan tourist traveling to the dr by herself for two weeks. hmmm' kay? doesn't sound right. my first guess was she's working here on contract as a high end escort. she was buying stuff like laundry detergent, 409 (the dr equivalent) to bring back home. said hugo chavez f-ked up the country so bad either they don't have it or hyper inflation made even daily items unaffordable. drove her back to her place. not a hotel but a house in a rather nice residential neighborhood. tried to work my way in. no dice. offered to pay for her shopping. rd3000 worth. she said that was too little and countered us $250! would not budge. ok, i struck out. later on my suspicion was confirmed when i saw her whatsapp home phrase "these dominicans sell you dreams but. ".

found a hotel in the city and checked in. got a date with a cupid girl. said she's a 24 year-old mother of one who works in car sales. told me to pick her up at acropolis center, which catered to upper middle class like agora and blue mall. she's a blanquita spaniard looking girl from cibao. ok this is different. took her to adrian tropical on the malecon. definite a romantic dinner atmosphere there. made her laugh and blush, i thought i had a chance. took her back to the hotel, watched some tv then started kissing her and a little french but she drew the line there. i asked why would you let me bring you back to the hotel if we ain't doing nothin' replied she's looking for a serious relationship. ok. well then let's get some serious action going on girl! she dodged dove plus some dominican wing chun moves. since [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is still illegal in the dr (sigh) i had to let her go.

rested up a bit, ok let's spin this pu $sy wheel of fortune and see what i get next. putas on the malecon! off i went. i was so paranoid about getting robbed, i left my wallet in the room safe and only carried two rd1000 bills in my pocket. drove past a bunch of street walkers, found a 7 who's pleasing to my eyes and pulled her in the car. high-beams, sirens immediately went off behind me! wtf!! 3 cops jumped out and said it was prohibited! huh? she asked me for a cigarette i was just letting her use my lighter bro! the one cop with an ak47 or m16 or whatever asked me for my papers. fffffffff-k! my wallet is in the hotel! no you must come with us to the station. nooooo! please! i'm here on vacation i don't want to sleep in no jail cell!! let's go talk to our commander. the cop with the ak47 slipped into the passenger seat right as the streetwalker slipped out. g daayaaam!! ok time to flash my rd1000 bill. did the not-so-subtle scratching my face with the money between my fingers "help me out, man". cop got the hint and told me ok let's just get out of the malecon. i was driving my car with the one cop inside and the other two were tailing in their pickup truck. i slowed and pulled off to the a dark side street. cops don't want to be seen being dirty, too. i made sure the rd1000 was for all three of them and was let go. nonetheless, ffffff-kk!

ok guys bring on the jeers and the hate. what's the moral to my "complete waste of a day" story? one shouldn't put on his big boys pants before he can fit them? just stick with sosua? actually i think my mistake was to deviate from my normal modus operandi. i go on cupid website and ask girls hey do you want to join me in staying at a beach resort. i'm not looking for free toto's. they know they're down to f if they're saying yes to staying overnight. thought i wanted to try something different. i guess if my spanish is not top notch, i'm not a casanova who has all the moves, i should stick to my m. o. or try sosua?

LOL. Great stories Parkinsons. I don't see any mistakes. It's all in the name of adventure. You can stick your dick in pussy any time. This is shit you will remember. A random piece of ass you will probably forget about next week.

What makes SD interesting is how unpredictable it is. You have balls and I admire that. I usually invites ladies from different cities because when they show up they are not on there own turf and are committed to spending the night, I enjoyed your moves. Like E says the unpredictable nature of SD makes it exciting. On my last trip I had to flip scripts all the time. I haven't had to deal with police. That stuff would freak me out. I have been approached by SWs on El Conde with no threat of 5 o. I think having a car makes you a target. So I just don't drive in SD Plus driving in SD is crazy. May be a bit more vetting will illiminate the I am looking for a serious relationship play. That is frustrating having lady in room you ready to hit and she not down. ( high school stuff) Keep the reports coming.

[quote=parkinsons;1622332]quick report.
afterwards i went to have lunch then walked over to la sirena in chinatown. saw an absolute knockout, a shakira look-alike shopping there. chatted her up and got her digits. this girl has a pair of big bolt-on's peeping through her tank top; hair, make-up, nails all done to the nines. turned out she's not dominican. said she's a venezuelan tourist traveling to the dr by herself for two weeks. hmmm' kay? doesn't sound right. my first guess was she's working here on contract as a high end escort. she was buying stuff like laundry detergent, 409 (the dr equivalent) to bring back home. said hugo chavez f-ked up the country so bad either they don't have it or hyper inflation made even daily items unaffordable. drove her back to her place. not a hotel but a house in a rather nice residential neighborhood. tried to work my way in. no dice. offered to pay for her shopping. rd3000 worth. she said that was too little and countered us $250! would not budge. ok, i struck out. later on my suspicion was confirmed when i saw her whatsapp home phrase "these dominicans sell you dreams but. ".
[/quote]you were not so caught up in this chica that you actually paid her what she was asking. she thought she had a whale. good report. lol

Don't beat yourself up Parkinson's! There's still plenty of areas to check out when you want to stray from your m. O.

Maybe avenida indepencia, where manolos is. The discos pure and gold to name a few. Sounds like your working SD better than most! Myself included! LOL! The game goes on brother!

Great report Parkinson's. SD has eaten many a veteran monger alive so don't be mad. The key IMO to SD is to cultivate girls through many visits. It's not a cheap project. I bring cheap toys (book bags with school supplies) for the kids. I take the mom for romantic dinners. Maybe even her and the kids to the zoo for a field trip. The mom will usually want a full time relationship, but once she realizes that you are giving her the only time you have available she will just be grateful for the little you do.

I think I might have temporarily called the cops bluff and said let's go to the station just to see their reaction before using the money as a backup. But for 1000 p to get it over, I can understand.

Another thing, the girl at the hotel with you probably wanted to fuck if not the maybe on the second date. I would have played the good guy role and told her that I'm looking for something special also and I want to see her again. Sometimes, as mongerers we take the attitude of " fuck me now and hurry up", that's not the way I play it. She wanted to feel needed and special and a second date would have sealed the deal probably. Don't give up on SD, patience is the secret to SD.

I wanted to know, which hotel in zona colonial or close area would anyone recommend. I was thinking between.

Mercure Comercial Santo Domingo, Hodelpa Caribe Colonialor en la avenida Independencia Hotel La Casona Dorada.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Havana927;1623024]I wanted to know, which hotel in zona colonial or close area would anyone recommend. I was thinking between.

Mercure Comercial Santo Domingo, Hodelpa Caribe Colonialor en la avenida Independencia Hotel La Casona Dorada.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I usually do Mystik. They are next to the casas and have a terrace for hanging out. Be very careful with some hotels in SD because they could be gay hotels. I think Mercure used to be a gay hotel. Also some guys like Raizor next to Monolos, it's near all the action and for straight guys.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1623256]I usually do Mystik. They are next to the casas and have a terrace for hanging out. Be very careful with some hotels in SD because they could be gay hotels. I think Mercure used to be a gay hotel. Also some guys like Raizor next to Monolos, it's near all the action and for straight guys.[/QUOTE]Thanks, because Barcelo and Melia (Sheraton) are strict and charge $50 to bring someone in.

I stayed at Reina Isabela, $ 32 a night right on El Conde 1 block from Pacos / Grands. The rooms were decent size and very clean. It is chica friendly with a very nice staff.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1623256]I usually do Mystik. They are next to the casas and have a terrace for hanging out. Be very careful with some hotels in SD because they could be gay hotels. I think Mercure used to be a gay hotel. Also some guys like Raizor next to Monolos, it's near all the action and for straight guys.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1622476]Great report Parkinson's. SD has eaten many a veteran monger alive so don't be mad. The key IMO to SD is to cultivate girls through many visits. It's not a cheap project. I bring cheap toys (book bags with school supplies) for the kids. I take the mom for romantic dinners. Maybe even her and the kids to the zoo for a field trip. The mom will usually want a full time relationship, but once she realizes that you are giving her the only time you have available she will just be grateful for the little you do.

I think I might have temporarily called the cops bluff and said let's go to the station just to see their reaction before using the money as a backup. But for 1000 p to get it over, I can understand.

Another thing, the girl at the hotel with you probably wanted to fuck if not the maybe on the second date. I would have played the good guy role and told her that I'm looking for something special also and I want to see her again. Sometimes, as mongerers we take the attitude of " fuck me now and hurry up", that's not the way I play it. She wanted to feel needed and special and a second date would have sealed the deal probably. Don't give up on SD, patience is the secret to SD.[/QUOTE]I think it's possible that it was an approved decoy operation and not a bluff. Hopefully if it wasn't they won't realize how effective and lucrative this scam would be. In the US these decoy operations net local police lot's of cash and are quite systematic and lawful. The advantage in the DR as a money machine would be that everybody gets a taste. The front line cops would get their 1000 pesos but extranjeros that want to bluff would get pulled into the court system and have to pay off higher level folk at higher rates. The fact that prostitution isn't illegal per se hasn't bothered the prosecution much in a lot of other cases and it wouldn't help much here. It's not like there's a right to pick up prostitutes inshrined in the Dominican Constitution. Scandinavian countries are promoting the model of making it illegal to pay but not illegal to receive payment. This kind of law would be both politically correct and bribery nirvana for the Policia.

[quote=parkinsons;1622332]quick report. flew into sdq yesterday. picked up my rental car. shout out to mr. e and tempoecorto for the rental car tips in their pms. drove into the city and grabbed my cupid girl. she's a 27 year-old mother of two who claims to be a university student on break. has a nice huge natural rack on her. checked into the resort in juan dolio. $58 per person per night for an all- inclusive, can't be beat. especially this is a slooow season. or this place is just waning in popularity, every year i go there are fewer and fewer guests. i felt like we had the whole resort to ourselves. after my second pop, this morning i was thinking whether we should stay another night, which the girl agreed to. then i was like nah, i have a whole island yet to explore. so i drove her back to her place. of course i gave her a parting "gift" as requested, she said so she could buy eggs, bread and milk for her kids. mind you this is a girl who has a louis vuitton purse (probably fake, but still) michael kors watch (nobody fakes this shit, right?) certainly her kids would be starving without my rd2000.

afterwards i went to have lunch then walked over to la sirena in chinatown. saw an absolute knockout, a shakira look-alike shopping there. chatted her up and got her digits. this girl has a pair of big bolt-on's peeping through her tank top; hair, make-up, nails all done to the nines. turned out she's not dominican. said she's a venezuelan tourist traveling to the dr by herself for two weeks. hmmm' kay? doesn't sound right. my first guess was she's working here on contract as a high end escort. she was buying stuff like laundry detergent, 409 (the dr equivalent) to bring back home. said hugo chavez f-ked up the country so bad either they don't have it or hyper inflation made even daily items unaffordable. drove her back to her place. not a hotel but a house in a rather nice residential neighborhood. tried to work my way in. no dice. offered to pay for her shopping. rd3000 worth. she said that was too little and countered us $250! would not budge. ok, i struck out. later on my suspicion was confirmed when i saw her whatsapp home phrase "these dominicans sell you dreams but. ".

found a hotel in the city and checked in. got a date with a cupid girl. said she's a 24 year-old mother of one who works in car sales. told me to pick her up at acropolis center, which catered to upper middle class like agora and blue mall. she's a blanquita spaniard looking girl from cibao. ok this is different. took her to adrian tropical on the malecon. definite a romantic dinner atmosphere there. made her laugh and blush, i thought i had a chance. took her back to the hotel, watched some tv then started kissing her and a little french but she drew the line there. i asked why would you let me bring you back to the hotel if we ain't doing nothin' replied she's looking for a serious relationship. ok. well then let's get some serious action going on girl! she dodged dove plus some dominican wing chun moves. since [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] is still illegal in the dr (sigh) i had to let her go.

rested up a bit, ok let's spin this pu $sy wheel of fortune and see what i get next. putas on the malecon! off i went. i was so paranoid about getting robbed, i left my wallet in the room safe and only carried two rd1000 bills in my pocket. drove past a bunch of street walkers, found a 7 who's pleasing to my eyes and pulled her in the car. high-beams, sirens immediately went off behind me! wtf!! 3 cops jumped out and said it was prohibited! huh? she asked me for a cigarette i was just letting her use my lighter bro! the one cop with an ak47 or m16 or whatever asked me for my papers. fffffffff-k! my wallet is in the hotel! no you must come with us to the station. nooooo! please! i'm here on vacation i don't want to sleep in no jail cell!! let's go talk to our commander. the cop with the ak47 slipped into the passenger seat right as the streetwalker slipped out. g daayaaam!! ok time to flash my rd1000 bill. did the not-so-subtle scratching my face with the money between my fingers "help me out, man". cop got the hint and told me ok let's just get out of the malecon. i was driving my car with the one cop inside and the other two were tailing in their pickup truck. i slowed and pulled off to the a dark side street. cops don't want to be seen being dirty, too. i made sure the rd1000 was for all three of them and was let go. nonetheless, ffffff-kk!

ok guys bring on the jeers and the hate. what's the moral to my "complete waste of a day" story? one shouldn't put on his big boys pants before he can fit them? just stick with sosua? actually i think my mistake was to deviate from my normal modus operandi. i go on cupid website and ask girls hey do you want to join me in staying at a beach resort. i'm not looking for free toto's. they know they're down to f if they're saying yes to staying overnight. thought i wanted to try something different. i guess if my spanish is not top notch, i'm not a casanova who has all the moves, i should stick to my m. o. or try sosua?[/quote]i would have did the same thing and got the hell out of dodge. i think.

[QUOTE=MarcAnthony;1624203] Scandinavian countries are promoting the model of making it illegal to pay but not illegal to receive payment. This kind of law would be both politically correct and bribery nirvana for the Policia.[/QUOTE]I would never ever pay first in a country that has this law.

Hi gentleman,

Going to new j w Marriott in Santo Domingo on business. Anyone stayed there? Is it girl friendly?

Thanks in advance.

Read the forum to learn where to stay. None of the main stream name hotels are chica friendly. If you are in town for business and someone else is paying for your hotel sure. If you are in town for fun not your best option. You are paying close to a hundred a day and I bet and can not bring girls to your room. Read ask guestions and you can have good time. Sd is a place where you need some knowledge and Spanish.

[QUOTE=Jackzin;1626459]Hi gentleman,

Going to new j w Marriott in Santo Domingo on business. Anyone stayed there? Is it girl friendly?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

It all depends on the girl. Some will be admitted anywhere and others will be turned away unless its the Mystik or Jaguar.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1626586]Read the forum to learn where to stay. None of the main stream name hotels are chica friendly. If you are in town for business and someone else is paying for your hotel sure. If you are in town for fun not your best option. You are paying close to a hundred a day and I bet and can not bring girls to your room. Read ask guestions and you can have good time. Sd is a place where you need some knowledge and Spanish.[/QUOTE]

[quote=knowledge;1626653]it all depends on the girl. some will be admitted anywhere and others will be turned away unless its the mystik or jaguar.[/quote]one thing it will definitely depend on is the way she is dressed. if she is dressed like a hooker or all crazy then they are likely to stop you. a chick i was fucking with last week was wearing stars and stripes pants and an almost matching halter top. i told her that she looked like a clown; she drew too much attention with her dress. she had a pair of jeans and a half way decent top in her bag. i tried to get her to change clothes in the car before we got to the hotel but she would not. then she kept lagging me behind when we were walking into the hotel. she totally looked like she did not belong. the security guy followed us to the elevator and asked what room i was in and checked the list not seeing a females name on there. i had to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] really bad. i told him fuck that shit i have to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] real bad. she is my girlfriend. he left us alone and we went up to the room.

If that's the Marriot on Maximo Gomez it is chica friendly.

[QUOTE=Jackzin;1626459]Hi gentleman,

Going to new j w Marriott in Santo Domingo on business. Anyone stayed there? Is it girl friendly?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE].

They have a no female visitor policy. Security will check any strange women to see if she is registered. I was challenged with a registered guest tastefully dressed. Again check out a the Riena Isabaella on El Conde. Great location and great price under 35 dollars. You pay that in taxes in some SD hotels.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1626653]It all depends on the girl. Some will be admitted anywhere and others will be turned away unless its the Mystik or Jaguar.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JJ341;1626717]If that's the Marriot on Maximo Gomez it is chica friendly.

.[/QUOTE]No the JW Marriott is a new place on Churchill and if it's anything like the Jaragua it will not be chica friendly.

It isn't always just about the girl.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1626728]They have a no female visitor policy. Security will check any strange women to see if she is registered. I was challenged with a registered guest tastefully dressed. Again check out a the Riena Isabaella on El Conde. Great location and great price under 35 dollars. You pay that in taxes in some SD hotels.[/QUOTE]

[quote=mrenternational;1626681]one thing it will definitely depend on is the way she is dressed. if she is dressed like a hooker or all crazy then they are likely to stop you. a chick i was fucking with last week was wearing stars and stripes pants and an almost matching halter top. i told her that she looked like a clown; she drew too much attention with her dress. she had a pair of jeans and a half way decent top in her bag. i tried to get her to change clothes in the car before we got to the hotel but she would not. then she kept lagging me behind when we were walking into the hotel. she totally looked like she did not belong. the security guy followed us to the elevator and asked what room i was in and checked the list not seeing a females name on there. i had to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] really bad. i told him fuck that shit i have to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] real bad. she is my girlfriend. he left us alone and we went up to the room.[/quote]what was her reason for not wanting to change clothes? i am sure you explained to her that you might have an issue in the hotel because i the way she was dressed, why did she refuse to change?

[QUOTE=Bravo;1627264]What was her reason for not wanting to change clothes? I am sure you explained to her that you might have an issue in the hotel because I the way she was dressed, why did she refuse to change?[/QUOTE]26 year old immature country girl explains it. Then her ass turns around and answers my phone while I was in the shower. It was my main girl. She told her I was very busy. Of course I will never admit it. I told my girl she didn't call me. She said she was going to get the phone records to prove it. I told her maybe the lines were crossed because another buddy of mine said he couldn't get through at all (true story). I haven't talked to that chick since. She keeps sending me messages but that was her curtain call.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1627273]26 year old immature country girl explains it. Then her ass turns around and answers my phone while I was in the shower. It was my main girl. She told her I was very busy. Of course I will never admit it. I told my girl she didn't call me. She said she was going to get the phone records to prove it. I told her maybe the lines were crossed because another buddy of mine said he couldn't get through at all (true story). I haven't talked to that chick since. She keeps sending me messages but that was her curtain call.[/QUOTE]You told the chica she dialed the wrong number! That's a real pimp move! LMAO! Yo! You need to write an e book, an autobiograpy type deal!

[QUOTE=BrotherP;1627317]You told the chica she dialed the wrong number! That's a real pimp move! LMAO! Yo! You need to write an e book, an autobiograpy type deal![/QUOTE]Like Richard Pryor said, "Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes?" Or Eddie Murphy. "Wasn't me. " No evidence, no charge.

One time a chick in Peru caught me with another girl but she didn't say nothing. When she came the next day she said I saw you yesterday inside the pizza place eating with a lady. I said not me. She said you had on a yellow shirt. I said no. Not me. I said you don't see no yellow shirt in my suitcase. She looked through my bag and didn't see a yellow shirt. She said no I don't think that was you. For some reason I was putting my dirty clothes inside the drawer in the dresser. Thank god she didn't open that drawer.

When chicks try to pull that I say well did you come say Hello, to me? No. So how you know it was me?

I had a quote girlfriend in SD. I arrive two days early and arrange for 2 two DC girls to visit before seeing my girlfriend. When the first girl heard me talking to the second DC chica on the phone she advised me that I should make time for the other girl as well. She went back to Sosua no problem and other girl showed up the next morning. I had fun with both girls. I have to admit the first girl as a semi pro. Semi pros tend to make life a lot easier.

[QUOTE=BrotherP;1627317]You told the chica she dialed the wrong number! That's a real pimp move! LMAO! Yo! You need to write an e book, an autobiograpy type deal![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1627357]I had a quote girlfriend in SD. I arrive two days early and arrange for 2 two DC girls to visit before seeing my girlfriend. When the first girl heard me talking to the second DC chica on the phone she advised me that I should make time for the other girl as well. She went back to Sosua no problem and other girl showed up the next morning. I had fun with both girls. I have to admit the first girl as a semi pro. Semi pros tend to make life a lot easier.[/QUOTE]Yeah semi pros are a blast. You get to drink, dance, talk,laugh....and the guaranteed coochie! Most of mine have been bartenders. I haven't had any luck with DC.

If you take time on DC you will find plenty of semi pros. They are the ones who ask for gifts. Some guys are turned off by this. I use it as bait. Often the gifts are inexpensive but are effective in getting a good performance. GFE is on the table with most.

[QUOTE=BrotherP;1627386]Yeah semi pros are a blast. You get to drink, dance, talk,laugh....and the guaranteed coochie! Most of mine have been bartenders. I haven't had any luck with DC.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1627341]"Wasn't me."

I said not me.

I said no. Not me. [/QUOTE]Shaggy, it that you, LOL?

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g5Hz17C4is[/URL]

great report parkison. thanks for sharing. you were lucky and i think you were really lucky that date. that resisting nonworking cupid girl could have called the cops if you have continued trying to fuck her but it was smart that you stopped trying to have sex with her. you could have ended up in a dominican jail for long time easily. those dominican jails are nothing like the usa jails. here is a video of la victoria and other jails in dr where some foreign people that screwed up in the dr and are now doing time for different things, mostly drug trafficking or violent crimes. the video is in spanish unfortunately:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nexpwcu5lg[/url]

also, bribing by police is very common in dr and when you give cops a reason to getting bribed as in your case (soliciting a prostitute in public in el malecon and bringing her to your car) the bribing could happen more often. that is why i don't like to rent cars when i go to the dr, that way i will never give a cop a reason to stop me. they could stop you for anything on the road, being a gringo they already see dollar signs, and even when you have not committed a violation, they will hint you to give them money saying that they work very hard and don't get paid well or did not even get the chance to get breakfast because of the lack of money. i think you were lucky that those cops did not extort you for more money, and they were nice with you by letting you go for 1000 pesos. thanks for sharing those experiences.

[quote=parkinsons;1622332]quick report. flew into sdq yesterday. picked up my rental car. shout out to mr. e and tempoecorto for the rental car tips in their pms. drove into the city and grabbed my cupid girl. she's a 27 year-old mother of two who claims to be a university student on break. has a nice huge natural rack on her. checked into the resort in juan dolio. $58 per person per night for an all- inclusive, can't be beat. especially this is a slooow season. or this place is just waning in popularity, every year i go there are fewer and fewer guests. i felt like we had the whole resort to ourselves. after my second pop, this morning i was thinking whether we should stay another night, which the girl agreed to. then i was like nah, i have a whole island yet to explore. so i drove her back to her place. of course i gave her a parting "gift" as requested, she said so she could buy eggs, bread and milk for her kids. mind you this is a girl who has a louis vuitton purse (probably fake, but still) michael kors watch (nobody fakes this shit, right?) certainly her kids would be starving without my rd2000.

afterwards i went to have lunch then walked over to la sirena in chinatown. saw an absolute knockout, a shakira look-alike shopping there. chatted her up and got her digits. this girl has a pair of big bolt-on's peeping through her tank top; hair, make-up, nails all done to the nines...[/quote]

Got a deal to Santo Domingo for three weeks I could not resist. Spent the entire time in SD. Thought of spending some time in Sosua but did not, not even for a weekend. I thought I should fully explore the casa scene in SD which I did not do in my last visit. Started off, of course, at GBP. Saw many chicas from my last visit in May and a few new ones. I started with Annie, be cup, no kids, my first and only Dominicana who's not a mom, good session, I was hoping that my other sessions in SD would continue like that. That was not to be. I would give details in another report. I did four other chicas in GBP in consecutive days who were not as good as Annie. One gave me BBBJ, however. I understand that they are supposed to give BBBJ but I do not hold them to it. I take it when it is offered. My next few sessions were at Casa Teresa. This place is over rated on this board. I have read folks refer to 8's and 9's here. No such thing. I would recommend that those folks go upstairs arriba with the so called 8's and 9's and look at them without clothes in the light, they will change their minds. All Casa Teresa chicas have ninos and in my opinion do not take proper care of their bodies. I'm not blaming them, I know that they have to look after their families in addition to working all night and have no time to work out. That being said I did most of my sessions here, seven chicas in all. I also sessioned at 305 (you take the chicas to a nearby hotel) and three other casas on Avenida Pasteur, sorry I've forgotten the names. My last night I passed by 305 but there was no electricity there, only candles, quite eerie. The chicas at Teresa are the best looking. Casa Teresa charges 4000 p per hour. The chica at 305 charged me 4000 p for two hours. Other casas on Pasteur charge 4000 p. Two of these casas have their own rooms, one does not. One night a guy I met on Pasteur told me of a place four minutes walk away, I followed him on a twenty-four minute walk to El Conde, when we entered El Conde we walked one block, turned left then the first right, it was about the fourth building on the left, went upstairs, knock on door, door's unlocked. GBP type casa, saw five chicas, three chatting with guys, two available but did not do any (2,500 p per hour). The girls chatting with the guys were doable. I was sent by a previous poster / s to the fictitious Casa Azul, followed directions on a walk from Casa Teresa. No such place exists. Where the casa is supposed to be there is some hotel called Hotel 8. Asked many people around for Casa Azul. No one knows any such casa. I also went on a wild goose chase for Casa de LOS Modelos. No sign of this casa after walking up and down along the street. There is so much to say about Santo Domingo but time does not permit but in closing I must mention how I got around the city. I stayed at the hotel Plaza del Sol next to the Universidad (within walking to GBP). Near to this hotel was a parking area for publicos waiting to fill their cars with 6 passengers before plying their routes. I just went up to an empty one and asked the driver to take me to my destination, I paid no more than 200 p to go any where and they were willing to wait on me to take me back most of the time, yes, 1985 Toyotas, but got to and from my destinations. I have a lot to say about the providers in Sd but that's for another report soon.

Thanks for the report but love more details. I am not a casa guy especially when they want a 4000 pesos plus the drinks which is the norm for many casas. That is 3 session in Sosua. It is hard to get any rapore with casa chicas. The casas are no bargain. The girls are usually bored and disinterested and why not. I am surprised that you did not find someone to wife up with.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1627770]One night a guy I met on Pasteur told me of a place four minutes walk away, I followed him on a twenty-four minute walk to El Conde, when we entered El Conde we walked one block, turned left then the first right, it was about the fourth building on the left, went upstairs, knock on door, door's unlocked. GBP type casa, saw five chicas, three chatting with guys, two available but did not do any (2,500 p per hour).[/QUOTE]This is one of those places where you are supposed to say, but last time I paid 1000. Or my friend told me it was 1000. Or I saw it in the newspaper for 1000.

The following was in a Santiago report by Tempoecorto:

"In a recent conversation, a woman I know from La vega asked me for a tube of lube to bring along. I was surprised because, she is all wet when she is with me and so I asked her what gives. She after much heehaw, essentially told me that with the locals, it is like "wham bam, thank'why ma'am". ".

This explains a lot for me. I have complained in the past about the service of DR women. In my just concluded trip I observed that it is not that the DR women do not enjoy sex or are very mercenary. Typically I would take a chica to the room and initially she'the be very accommodating enjoying the action but after about fifteen minutes of pounding she'the be like "leche", that dreaded word for me in the DR. This is because traditionally she is not accustomed to more than about fifteen minutes of pounding and not necessarily bad service. Furthermore, in every casa I went to there was always many more women than men and I suspect that these chicas do not have a whole lot of sex. For men who climax after about fifteen minutes of pounding the DR must be a haven. In every session I like to try at least six different positions and go at it for not less than forty minutes to get full enjoyment.

That being said I have gotten better service from DR women in Santo Domingo than in Sosua. In the casas I am actually able to develop a little rapport with the chicas by having a drink with them for as long as I wish before doing the deed. If I do return to Sosua it will be more for the ambience than the mongering.

What I have developed in Santo Domingo is to ignore the call for leche and just continue pounding and not let it affect me mentally. In most cases I just heard the words "leche Papi" while I continued to enjoy myself to climax. In only one instance which was Nashra (her real name, it was tattooed on her left shoulder) in Casa Teresa did the chica push me away and said the session is finito after half an hour. I complained to management just out of obligation but not expecting anything to come out of it.

After about twenty chicas on my penultimate day I said to myself that I really should not return to Santo Domingo but then it happened as if a higher power wanted to play tricks with me. On my last night in SD I visited casa Teresa, the talent was the weakest I had ever seen it and nevertheless decided to session with a chica who I would rate physically a 5 but performance wise a 10. It was one of my best sessions with a provider ever. She was extremely horny. I pounded her for over an hour and she matched me stroke for stroke all the time calling for more, shouting "rico" and pulling me towards her as if I was not doing it hard enough. Even as this was happening I did not think that I would come as I was very drained from the previous twenty days and visited Teresa only because it was my last night in SD. I was actually ready to call it a night after about an hour without climaxing but she kept gyrating on me as if there was no tomorrow, she was good, she gyrated vertically, horizontally and circular. Eventually after about twenty minutes of one of the wildest doggy bangings I've ever had, it happened. Even after I came she still continued to gyrate. A strange thing happened after. After I removed the condom, wrapped it in toilet paper and put it in the bin, she went into the bin, took out the condom, blew into it and inspected the contents, then returned it to the bin. A first for me.

What I like about the casas here is that they do not knock on the door after the hour's up. The same thing happened after I went with a chica in GBP (the big dark girl who spends a lot of time behind the bar, not the mamasan, I forgot to ask her name). I pounded this chica for about an hour and a half, all the time she was shouting leche but she never pushed me away. No one knocked on the door after an hour and it was only when I checked my watch after the session that I discovered that I'the spent so much time in the habitacion.

There is no doubt that most of the casas are over priced. In addition the dudes at Teresa demand a propina after they have escorted you to the room. They never cheated me on drinks prices though as has been reported elsewhere.

With regards to wifing up I think my Spanish skills are way too poor to get that. I have in fact been learning Spanish but the problem I have in the DR is that they mispronounce the words. For example, after a particular session the chica said to me "Feli". What the hell is feli? I ask her "Que es feli?" It took me a little time to realize that she was really saying "Feliz?" "Happy?" Jose Feliciano sings "Feliz Navidad" pronouncing the 'z'. How many other words do they mispronounce? How on earth will I ever be able to have a conversation with them? There are some really hot chicas on the streets here though, all very friendly. One at the Universidad even said 'hola' to me, I tried to converse with her but it was too much of a struggle. She got exasperated and walked away from my ass. Dominicans are very friendly people, yes they want your money, but they are very good natured. Will I return; after my last session at Teresa that is a possibility.

My experience is 180 from yours but I do not do the casas for many of the reasons you mentioned. Casa girls are on the clock and have to answer to their bosses. I have heard that knock on the door on more then one occasion. Sosua girls are free lancers and can do what they want. I often I have them negotiating to stay after sessions which is a nice thing. My Spanish is not great but I seem not to have problems. I sometimes at almost 60 need a lot of work to pop. If you have rappore with a girl often she will go out of here way to get you off. I set the atmosphere with my chicas in Sosua and SD. I start with a shower for them and a massage that relaxes and sets the mood. Many of the chicas are tired from being up all night chasing dollars. I enjoy getting them off as much as I enjoy getting mine. Ergo I always have toys lubes. I have only had one chica who did not enjoy the toys and many who have begged to keep them. Work on your Spanish and you will save money and have a better experiences. You most have paid a fortune going to the casas. Components of a casa visit in Sd. Drinks 500 pesos, cab 500 pesos, house propina 200 pesos and the chica 3500 pesos. You pay 5 k for an hour of cold sex. You can get pussy in NY for that. Sosua I am paying 1500 pesos and I am not on the clock with the girl so much. I always chat the girl up before I pull the trigger.

Hey everyone,

I've seen some messages about SlipOnMe (nuru massage) on here, and I've seen mostly good reviews, but. Are the girls over there really clean? Cause I'm planing to go over there, but I don't want to catch something.

Also, people have been talking about "finisher", did someone ever had more than a HJ over there?

Does anyone know if Cute Girl Agency is legit BTW? I'm trying to get something more than a massage here in Santo Domingo.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1628003]The following was in a Santiago report by Tempoecorto:

What I have developed in Santo Domingo is to ignore the call for leche and just continue pounding and not let it affect me mentally. In most cases I just heard the words "leche Papi" while I continued to enjoy myself to climax. In only one instance which was Nashra (her real name, it was tattooed on her left shoulder) in Casa Teresa did the chica push me away and said the session is finito after half an hour. I complained to management just out of obligation but not expecting anything to come out of it.

After about twenty chicas on my penultimate day I said to myself that I really should not return to Santo Domingo but then it happened as if a higher power wanted to play tricks with me. On my last night in SD I visited casa Teresa, the talent was the weakest I had ever seen it and nevertheless decided to session with a chica who I would rate physically a 5 but performance wise a 10. It was one of my best sessions with a provider ever. She was extremely horny. I pounded her for over an hour and she matched me stroke for stroke all the time calling for more, shouting "rico" and pulling me towards her as if I was not doing it hard enough. Even as this was happening I did not think that I would come as I was very drained from the previous twenty days and visited Teresa only because it was my last night in SD. I was actually ready to call it a night after about an hour without climaxing but she kept gyrating on me as if there was no tomorrow, she was good, she gyrated vertically, horizontally and circular. Eventually after about twenty minutes of one of the wildest doggy bangings I've ever had, it happened. Even after I came she still continued to gyrate. A strange thing happened after. After I removed the condom, wrapped it in toilet paper and put it in the bin, she went into the bin, took out the condom, blew into it and inspected the contents, then returned it to the bin. A first for me.

.[/QUOTE]I warn all new chicas before we get to the room. Mami Yo no leche rappido. No leche papi leche! Entender esto antes de que vengas conmigo. This won't stop hard headed chica, so give them the "hard head" and remind them while you are laying the pipe. I have had quite a few chicas check the condom. A chica that take pride in her session measures it by the amount of leche in the condom after you are finshed. This chica obviously enjoyed the session and wanted to see the end result of her job for herself. In Sosua, most putas are not looking for future mate or trying to give "entertainment foreplay". No future relations. Just money right now and how long. I did say most.

That habit of some chicas taking the comdon to measure the leche fricks me out. I try to throw the condom myself, but there some chicas that take it quickly out of my hand. In my head, I am thinking they want to take the leche and purposely get pregnant. Since most of the chicas in DR have kids like that is nothing and no daddies around, having a Gringo dad paying child support does seem to me quite a lucrative deal to them. I usually follow them to the bathroom whenever they take the condom until I see that is in the trash. Then when she is out, I dispose the condom myself and make sure that leche is not going anywhere. I know I am a bit Paranoid but I won't take any chances with those chicas specially when some ask you to be their boyfriends after the first fuck.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1628092]I warn all new chicas before we get to the room. Mami Yo no leche rappido. No leche papi leche! Entender esto antes de que vengas conmigo. This won't stop hard headed chica, so give them the "hard head" and remind them while you are laying the pipe. I have had quite a few chicas check the condom. A chica that take pride in her session measures it by the amount of leche in the condom after you are finshed. This chica obviously enjoyed the session and wanted to see the end result of her job for herself. In Sosua, most putas are not looking for future mate or trying to give "entertainment foreplay". No future relations. Just money right now and how long. I did say most.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;1628003]The following was in a Santiago report by Tempoecorto:

"In a recent conversation, a woman I know from La vega asked me for a tube of lube to bring along. I was surprised because, she is all wet when she is with me and so I asked her what gives. She after much heehaw, essentially told me that with the locals, it is like "wham bam, thank'why ma'am". ".[/QUOTE]Frannie had a great comment on this subject awhile ago, indeed so did Charles Pooter speaking of the Dominican experience. The sex you are crowing about is really learned from the porn movies that we are wallowing in. Indeed it must have been quite different 50 years back. In any case, normal women of course can handle long sessions especially if you are stimulating them enough and if they are charged and lubricated. But wham bam DR types (as Charles explained) where men just jump on without caring if the woman is receptive / lubricated or not, are the reason why the woman I know asked for lubricant. In addition, as Frannie had explained, with pros, if they do it everyday, having one hour of sex each time may tear their internal vaginal walls or at least keep those sore. Sex then, is more pain than pleasure, not to speak of catching infections but it is their job. This may explain why most start with "leche papi" after 15 minutes. On the contrary, I, with the non Sosua kinds I frequent, allow a free hand which is how they get off at their pace and by calling the shots and so even when session is long, between their pumping and mine, rarely hear that. Having said that, I find it arousing to climax when a woman asks for leche, especially at the end of a trip when taps are running dry. Personal idiosyncrasy!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1621447]Yes. I brought 2 nonpros there.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I will be in on Nov 13-17 with the usual suspects (about 5 of us regulars). If anyone will be in during the same time drop me a line and we can swap details.

Hey guys,

Can you give me some info on cheap rooms to rent and renting a motorcycle for a week? I am planning a trip but am a cheapskate. I don't really care for a nice room on the beach. Just a private room with a bed. I'm thinking that families rent out rooms in their houses but I'm not sure how to find info on them.

How do Dominicans advertise rooms to locals? I'm looking for about $100 for a week.

And also I ride motorcycles. I'd love to rent one for a week in the DR. That would be awesome. Are there motorcycle rental stores in the main areas? What would seem a reasonable price?

[QUOTE=Abab123;1628031]Hey everyone,

I've seen some messages about SlipOnMe (nuru massage) on here, and I've seen mostly good reviews, but. Are the girls over there really clean? Cause I'm planing to go over there, but I don't want to catch something.

Also, people have been talking about "finisher", did someone ever had more than a HJ over there?

Does anyone know if Cute Girl Agency is legit BTW? I'm trying to get something more than a massage here in Santo Domingo.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I can not tell you if the girls have diseases but I can tell you all 3 I saw there were very attractive. One in particular was hot. Like college cheerleader hot. Everything I have experienced and everything I know is that you will get nothing more than a HJ. I suppose some of the girls may accept a huge tip and do something more but I have never asked and never known anybody who has.

On a side note. I was down there 3 weeks ago and Baby Dolls was closed which is my favorite club. I was quite disappointed. I did not get out of the cab but from the street there was a note on the door from the Dept of Housing or buildings dept or something stating the club was shut down for being unsafe and / or the club had violated some city code or rules.

If anyone goes by there in the future please post on here if it is open or still closed.

[QUOTE=Mnigac;1630799]And also I ride motorcycles. I'd love to rent one for a week in the DR. That would be awesome. Are there motorcycle rental stores in the main areas? What would seem a reasonable price?[/QUOTE]Many (most?) motoconchistas rent the bikes they use, so there are rental places even in the smallest towns, sometimes just a guy working from home. These are cheap chinese 100 CC or 125 CC bikes. You will pay a lot more because you are a gringo and renting for only a week, but it will still be cheap. Your main problem may be that they will require a deposit which is greater than the bike's value and may scam you.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1631013]Many (most?) motoconchistas rent the bikes they use, so there are rental places even in the smallest towns, sometimes just a guy working from home. These are cheap chinese 100 CC or 125 CC bikes. You will pay a lot more because you are a gringo and renting for only a week, but it will still be cheap. Your main problem may be that they will require a deposit which is greater than the bike's value and may scam you.[/QUOTE]When I was last in sosua, looking to hire a car to head down to santiago for the day, I asked around also for bikes, but the deposit required for bikes is higher than that for a car, especially with the higher CC bikes. Is there somewhere I can hire an automatic, as I don't know how to ride a geared bike which was what ultimately ended the idea of hiring one of the big CC bikes needed to get on autopista duarte.

I'm planning a trip in March and I'm going to rent a car. I understand most say its not advised due to the shady road conditions and dangerous drivers, but I'm a truck driver and I'm used to driving a 70' vehicle with crazy drivers and messed up roads (can't be worse than Detroit). I was looking into budget and avis online when I tried to prebook the car they didn't have an option for insurance. Just wondering if anyone could give me some info on some other car rental places, also I read about casa de conductor insurance, just wondering if that was a good idea?

Have any of you felllas stayed in the the brand new JW Marriott located in Santo Domingo yet and also is it chica friendly?

My main Novia has "cheated" on me with another girl. We've had 3 somes before but the agreement was we would share another girl together. She decided to do this one without me, so I feigned upset and am now milking this for all its worth. I think another trio is in the works for the weekend, I will also play up that we should have it at least 2 times a month.

Also, I am getting her to swallow (which she does not do, unless drunk) tonight. Payback for her transgression will be steep all the while I really don't care and actually like the fact that she "cheated" with another woman.

Anyway, I will keep the board posted as to my activities and if the trio took place this weekend or not. Anyway off to GBP now, I need to unload in another girls mouth. I should be there sometime before 4 pm if anyone is there.

I'm the big guy with the kakhi shorts and crocs.

Later.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1633498]My main Novia has "cheated" on me with another girl. We've had 3 somes before but the agreement was we would share another girl together. She decided to do this one without me, so I feigned upset and am now milking this for all its worth. I think another trio is in the works for the weekend, I will also play up that we should have it at least 2 times a month.

Also, I am getting her to swallow (which she does not do, unless drunk) tonight. Payback for her transgression will be steep all the while I really don't care and actually like the fact that she "cheated" with another woman.

Anyway, I will keep the board posted as to my activities and if the trio took place this weekend or not. Anyway off to GBP now, I need to unload in another girls mouth. I should be there sometime before 4 pm if anyone is there.

I'm the big guy with the kakhi shorts and crocs.

Later.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the cheating 3-some story.

[QUOTE=ItsXJustXJizz;1633257]also I read about casa de conductor insurance, just wondering if that was a good idea?[/QUOTE]Pretty much 95% of the people on this forum agree that it is (a good idea). It's the difference between sitting in a hotel room versus sitting in a Dominican jail cell packed with a bunch of other sweaty Dominicans if you end up hitting someone with your vehicle.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1633851]Pretty much 95% of the people on this forum agree that it is (a good idea). It's the difference between sitting in a hotel room versus sitting in a Dominican jail cell packed with a bunch of other sweaty Dominicans if you end up hitting someone with your vehicle.[/QUOTE]It is probably a good idea, but I have never bought it. Of course you need to drive with great care either way and try not to kill people. I think the nearest one to the North Coast is in Santiago.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1633950]It is probably a good idea, but I have never bought it. Of course you need to drive with great care either way and try not to kill people. I think the nearest one to the North Coast is in Santiago.[/QUOTE]So what rental car place do you use?

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1633851]Pretty much 95% of the people on this forum agree that it is (a good idea). It's the difference between sitting in a hotel room versus sitting in a Dominican jail cell packed with a bunch of other sweaty Dominicans if you end up hitting someone with your vehicle.[/QUOTE]I think that Casa del conductor is total BS. I do not know of one rental company that offers it and I rent cars there. Besides those casas are available only in Santo Domingo and Santiago, that I know of. If say, you have a bad accident in Monte Cristi say in the evening, there is no way in hell, the cops are going to bring you down to Santiago. At least no one has yet told me the contrary.

By the way, I recently had a flat tire and spent about $100 in cash for repairs and paying for people's time and transportation etc. The insurer of the Credit card said, they cannot reimburse me for cash paid. Thank god it was $100 only. An insurance is as good as what it is at crunch time.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1634110]I think that Casa del conductor is total BS. I do not know of one rental company that offers it and I rent cars there. Besides those casas are available only in Santo Domingo and Santiago, that I know of. If say, you have a bad accident in Monte Cristi say in the evening, there is no way in hell, the cops are going to bring you down to Santiago. At least no one has yet told me the contrary.

By the way, I recently had a flat tire and spent about $100 in cash for repairs and paying for people's time and transportation etc. The insurer of the Credit card said, they cannot reimburse me for cash paid. Thank god it was $100 only. An insurance is as good as what it is at crunch time.[/QUOTE]They got you good brother. I've had flats many times and I just pay a Dominican 150 pesos to put the spare on and 20 minutes later I'm rolling. Then I stop at one of the many shops in the DR and pay 300 pesos for them to plug or fix the flat tire. I hope you didn't return the car with the flat tire in the trunk because you are asking them to fuck you.

Once Sabor had an accident in SD when HE almost hit a cop on a motochoncho but the cop kicked the car to keep us from hitting him. We all went our separate ways and Sabor had the damage fixed at a bootleg shop in SD for 40 usd. If we had taken that car back to the rental agency with the damage they would have probably charged him 500 usd at a minimum.

Agree, totally agree.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1634110]I think that Casa del conductor is total BS. I do not know of one rental company that offers it and I rent cars there. Besides those casas are available only in Santo Domingo and Santiago, that I know of. If say, you have a bad accident in Monte Cristi say in the evening, there is no way in hell, the cops are going to bring you down to Santiago. At least no one has yet told me the contrary.

By the way, I recently had a flat tire and spent about $100 in cash for repairs and paying for people's time and transportation etc. The insurer of the Credit card said, they cannot reimburse me for cash paid. Thank god it was $100 only. An insurance is as good as what it is at crunch time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1634110]I think that Casa del conductor is total BS. I do not know of one rental company that offers it and I rent cars there. Besides those casas are available only in Santo Domingo and Santiago, that I know of. If say, you have a bad accident in Monte Cristi say in the evening, there is no way in hell, the cops are going to bring you down to Santiago. At least no one has yet told me the contrary.

By the way, I recently had a flat tire and spent about $100 in cash for repairs and paying for people's time and transportation etc. The insurer of the Credit card said, they cannot reimburse me for cash paid. Thank god it was $100 only. An insurance is as good as what it is at crunch time.[/QUOTE]I think you don't understand the coverage on this policy: 'Recibe atencion personalizada para facilitarte en caso de accidente, la gestion policial, judicial y de fianzas en comodas y modernas instalaciones, sin necesidad del ir al destacamento policial y posteriormente a LOS tribunales de transito'.

[QUOTE=Questner;1634491]I think you don't understand the coverage on this policy: 'Recibe atencion personalizada para facilitarte en caso de accidente, la gestion policial, judicial y de fianzas en comodas y modernas instalaciones, sin necesidad del ir al destacamento policial y posteriormente a LOS tribunales de transito'.[/QUOTE]Perhaps I do not. I mean I understand the grand sales pitch of the coverage. Casa del conductor means "house of the driver" which as I said exists only in Santiago for the whole of north. So perhaps someone can explain to me how this will work, in the hypothetical case I suggested. Being involved in an accident in MonteCristi at night and dragged to the local police station. I have read about the coverage but have not seen it actually being offered. The rental company (Nelly) I use certainly did not know anything when I asked. I doubt if many police stations are aware of such a policy given the general level of education and training. Perhaps there are some here (who?) who bought the coverage (from whom?) and have actually had an use for this policy? I would like to hear their story. As my personal example with flat tire demonstrated (and it was an US insurance company), anybody can sell a policy for the "peace of mind" while it may not be of much use when the rubber hits the road.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1634344]They got you good brother. I've had flats many times and I just pay a Dominican 150 pesos to put the spare on and 20 minutes later I'm rolling. Then I stop at one of the many shops in the DR and pay 300 pesos for them to plug or fix the flat tire. I hope you didn't return the car with the flat tire in the trunk because you are asking them to fuck you.[/QUOTE]I was in calle Luperon and you may know how desolate that could be. Fortunately I was close to a pueblo even though there was hardly anyone around. It was high noon. The boy (probably 16) who helped me, did indeed look for the spare tire first but it was no good either; I was stupid not to have the pressure checked before leaving the rental agency. Essentially this meant that the boy had to take the tire to some shop (I was halfway between Sosua and Santiago) on the backseat of someone's motorbike holding the tire, to get it plugged or whatever. I did nothing but sit on a chair by the roadside under a tree and drank a beer while all this happened. They could fix it within an hour or so and I paid for the gratitude. The lads did not ask. Where I live, I have AAA because otherwise I would be royally screwed if I were caught in such a dilemma so I was grateful, yes!

No, I did not tell the rental anything. I do not buy insurance there, so there was no need and I had fixed the tire, but dang, I did think that the credit card Insurance will reimburse me such a piddly amount even if I had no credit card payment slip!

Thanks for the info by the way, it will help me in future.

If it is so important, as many times as I have rented a car (and from 4 different companies: Nelly, Budget, Avis, Dollar), why has nobody ever tried to sell me casa del conductor insurance as they do the other insurances? If it was not for this board I would not have known anything as such existed.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1634563]If it is so important, as many times as I have rented a car (and from 4 different companies: Nelly, Budget, Avis, Dollar), why has nobody ever tried to sell me casa del conductor insurance as they do the other insurances? If it was not for this board I would not have known anything as such existed.[/QUOTE]Bingo! You know a lot better having rented it from other agencies as well and the agencies sure try to sell you insurance.

It is not for tourists. It is aimed at the resident market. You can buy it as an add on to your auto policy. The most important thing is to avoid accidents of course. The way to do that is to concentrate hard, maintain extra distance from other vehicles, and drive very defensively. Basic driving skills you learn as a teenager in Europe or North America are not taught in the Dominican Republic. In fact, drivers are taught to cut off other drivers, back out into oncoming traffic, aggressively cut off other cars rather than merge into traffic, and ignore highway lane markers until another car honks at you. Being aware of these customs will go a long way toward keeping you out of trouble.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1634563]If it is so important, as many times as I have rented a car (and from 4 different companies: Nelly, Budget, Avis, Dollar), why has nobody ever tried to sell me casa del conductor insurance as they do the other insurances? If it was not for this board I would not have known anything as such existed.[/QUOTE]

Has anyone on here ever used casa del conductor? To be clear, I am not asking if anyone has ever paid for it, I am asking if anyone has ever used the service. It could help members decide if they want to pay the extra cost if we had some first hand information.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1633851]Pretty much 95% of the people on this forum agree that it is (a good idea). It's the difference between sitting in a hotel room versus sitting in a Dominican jail cell packed with a bunch of other sweaty Dominicans if you end up hitting someone with your vehicle.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1634110]I think that Casa del conductor is total BS. I do not know of one rental company that offers it and I rent cars there. Besides those casas are available only in Santo Domingo and Santiago, that I know of. If say, you have a bad accident in Monte Cristi say in the evening, there is no way in hell, the cops are going to bring you down to Santiago. At least no one has yet told me the contrary.
[/QUOTE]Well maybe it is your fault for assuming the insurance would apply to places outside of SD or Santiago. We are talking about a third-world country here, so I would not be surprised if Casa Del Conductor is not "island-wide comprehensive coverage" and only applies to places where the casas are located, as you stated above; which means the coverage option must exist even though you have not had it offered to you.

So it may not be too useful for someone who is taking the rental all over the island, but if you happen to get in a wreck on while in SD or Santiago, then maybe so.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1634344] Once Sabor had an accident in SD when HE almost hit a cop on a motochoncho but the cop kicked the car to keep us from hitting him. We all went our separate ways and Sabor had the damage fixed at a bootleg shop in SD for 40 usd. If we had taken that car back to the rental agency with the damage they would have probably charged him 500 usd at a minimum.[/QUOTE]That shit was hilarious. Good thing I can laugh about it now. Since then I've had two others. I'll tell you about it when I see you. Good times!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1635101]So it may not be too useful for someone who is taking the rental all over the island, but if you happen to get in a wreck on while in SD or Santiago, then maybe so.[/QUOTE]I would not dispute your logic. It is plausible and perhaps it is more for the locals as someone suggested. I do not know of you but I have never even seen it on the menu of insurance offered nor have I seen any comment here by someone who was ill fated to have used that service, hence I am dubious. Besides, if I were to stay only in SD or Santiago, I would not need a car. It is when I wanted to see the island, I thought of renting and I do think that driving sober, under right weather conditions, and driving defensively, as another commentator rightly put, one should not get too worried, at least I am not. My brush so far with the locals, especially the lads in the DR, when I have had trouble on the road, has been only positive.

[QUOTE=ItsXJustXJizz;1633986]So what rental car place do you use?[/QUOTE]I can only attest to having insurance bought in the DR at the counter, Yes its a bit of a rip-off, but it is a no hassle issue; I rented a care one time and windshield was busted completely by me, when I was done with the car I dropped the car at the airport rental office and no one said a word as I had purchased their max insurance policy. Definitely worth it IMHO.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1633822]Thanks for the cheating 3-some story.[/QUOTE]I guess I look like him with a bit less hair on my head. My Crocs are black but I do have shorts like that.

If anyone goes by or has any info on baby dolls please share it. When I was there a few weeks ago it was closed. Would like to go back to SD but, would like to know if baby dolls has reopened.

[QUOTE=Mfins;1635696]If anyone goes by or has any info on baby dolls please share it. When I was there a few weeks ago it was closed. Would like to go back to SD but, would like to know if baby dolls has reopened.[/QUOTE]Your return to DR depends on wether one club is open or not? Must be a great place but aren't there others just as good?

[QUOTE=Gas6459;1635246]I can only attest to having insurance bought in the DR at the counter, Yes its a bit of a rip-off, but it is a no hassle issue; I rented a care one time and windshield was busted completely by me, when I was done with the car I dropped the car at the airport rental office and no one said a word as I had purchased their max insurance policy. Definitely worth it IMHO.[/QUOTE]AVIS, but don't get the insurance in the states. Get the one at the counter.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1635101]Well maybe it is your fault for assuming the insurance would apply to places outside of SD or Santiago. We are talking about a third-world country here, so I would not be surprised if Casa Del Conductor is not "island-wide comprehensive coverage" and only applies to places where the casas are located, as you stated above; which means the coverage option must exist even though you have not had it offered to you.

So it may not be too useful for someone who is taking the rental all over the island, but if you happen to get in a wreck on while in SD or Santiago, then maybe so.[/QUOTE]I was wondering if the locals even have insurance or if its just for us gringos. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of people I see driving around the island have no car insurance at all.

[QUOTE=Lonely566;1635872]Your return to DR depends on wether one club is open or not? Must be a great place but aren't there others just as good?[/QUOTE]It is not totally dependent on that club being open but, it is my favorite and it is where I spend the majority of my night time activities when in the DR so if it is closed it may tip the scales in favor of going to one of my other favorite countries for the weekend instead, like Panama, Colombia, El Salvador etc.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1636055]I was wondering if the locals even have insurance or if its just for us gringos. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of people I see driving around the island have no car insurance at all.[/QUOTE]The locals do have insurance, I got my insuraunce on the recommendation of a friend. Local guy works for the milk company, he has casa de conductor insurance from Pepin. I got the same insurance as he has, 5500 a year for good coverage and tow's. I already have used the tow twice with no problem. Quick service no look for tip or extra charges. Very good service.

My friend has used the casa de conductor more than once in his travels and he explains it is worth it.

Also, insurance is manditory by law. There is a minimum but i am not sure what that is.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1636619]The locals do have insurance, I got my insuraunce on the recommendation of a friend. Local guy works for the milk company, he has casa de conductor insurance from Pepin. I got the same insurance as he has, 5500 a year for good coverage and tow's. I already have used the tow twice with no problem. Quick service no look for tip or extra charges. Very good service.

My friend has used the casa de conductor more than once in his travels and he explains it is worth it.

Also, insurance is manditory by law. There is a minimum but i am not sure what that is.[/QUOTE]Is that 5500 pesos a year or dollars.

[QUOTE=Grub1;1636827]Is that 5500 pesos a year or dollars.[/QUOTE]Sorry, 5500 pesos a year. It covers me for tows, casa de conductor insurance, 1,000,000 bail money in case I get arrested, lawyer, liability insurance for myself, 3rd party and passengers. Seemed like a good deal.

FYI, I have a very good mechanic, trustworthy, does good fast work. IF anyone is in need of one I can give his information in a PM.

Since I hear that theft is such a problem there, I thought maybe getting some comprehensive insurance on my bike would be a good idea. And towing might come in handy too. Possible?

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1636841]Sorry, 5500 pesos a year. It covers me for tows, casa de conductor insurance, 1,000,000 bail money in case I get arrested, lawyer, liability insurance for myself, 3rd party and passengers. Seemed like a good deal.

FYI, I have a very good mechanic, trustworthy, does good fast work. IF anyone is in need of one I can give his information in a PM.[/QUOTE]Wow, that's just a little over US $10 per month! Apparently the ambulance chasing culture hasn't hit the DR yet. No personal injury lawyers running commercials on TV 24-7.

Some may lament the chaotic, wild-west traffic of the DR, but to a degree I find it refreshing that there isn't a nanny state where they outlaw every right-turn-on-red, impose an artificial and antiquated 55 mph limit on the super-highway, or install speeding camera on the busiest neighborhood streets, etc.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1636945]Some may lament the chaotic, wild-west traffic of the DR, but to a degree I find it refreshing that there isn't a nanny state where they outlaw every right-turn-on-red, impose an artificial and antiquated 55 mph limit on the super-highway, or install speeding camera on the busiest neighborhood streets, etc.[/QUOTE]That's not a nanny state. That is big business.

I was in my house after my stay at Casa de Conductor (see post in General info) I went to GBP for another good session with Kenya (anal is on the menu, just stick it in don't ask).

Anyway a novia was nearby at a birthday party at a girlfriends house, she asked me if she could stop by for a bit, I said sure.

She came over and ordered a condensed milk from the colmado, 60 pesos. She proceeded to give me a BBBJ with the condensed milk for quite a long time, I couldn't finish that way as I had a session at GBP and it took me some time to finish.

After a while she got tired and offered the culito which I accepted gladly. I did not have any lube to her surprise and mine, however, she took me in nicely with some lip gloss. I finished and laid back down. She washed up and went to back to her friends party (asking me for 200 pesos), showed up at my place around 2 AM for round 2 of some ass. This morning, she wakes me up tells me to take a shower and then BBBJ to completetion. She gave me a list of food to buy and made me a NICE filet mignon, salad, and some other food. I spent 3 K on food that is still in my house, 60 pesos for the condensed milk for the BJ and 200 pesos for? Not much money for a good night / morning.

I feel good now and have a BBQ to go to shortly, and most likely will come home with someone. I will post my adventures with that future girl.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1636945]Wow, that's just a little over US $10 per month! Apparently the ambulance chasing culture hasn't hit the DR yet. No personal injury lawyers running commercials on TV 24-7.

Some may lament the chaotic, wild-west traffic of the DR, but to a degree I find it refreshing that there isn't a nanny state where they outlaw every right-turn-on-red, impose an artificial and antiquated 55 mph limit on the super-highway, or install speeding camera on the busiest neighborhood streets, etc.[/QUOTE]Ok. I'm wrong. Perhaps they do have a traffic problem in the DR.

His hometown is Sosua. Rest in peace, Senor Taveras.

Excerpt:

St. Louis Cardinals outfielder Oscar Taveras has died in a car accident in the Dominican Republic, authorities said.

National police spokesman Jacobo Mateo Moquete confirmed Taveras' death on his Twitter account. Taveras' agent and the Cardinals' representative in the Caribbean country also said Sunday that the outfielder had died.

Taveras and his girlfriend were killed instantly, Moquete said. Taveras was driving a red Camaro while traveling between the cities of Cabarete and Sosúa.

Since we are on the subject of rental cars what is the deposit hold they are putting on your credit card when you rent the car? I talked to several of them and they said they are charging $1000 deposit holds now.

Showdown.

[QUOTE=Showdown;1637674]Since we are on the subject of rental cars what is the deposit hold they are putting on your credit card when you rent the car? I talked to several of them and they said they are charging $1000 deposit holds now.

Showdown.[/QUOTE]They when for the $500 deposit on Fresh in SD.

[QUOTE=Showdown;1637674]Since we are on the subject of rental cars what is the deposit hold they are putting on your credit card when you rent the car? I talked to several of them and they said they are charging $1000 deposit holds now.

Showdown.[/QUOTE]$300 at avis at the malecon when purchased with full insurance, dollar europcar a hundred or 2 more with full insurance cover.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1637497] St. Louis Cardinals outfielder Oscar Taveras has died in a car accident in the Dominican Republic, authorities said.[/QUOTE]Yesterday a young woman I know, mentioned about her ex-boyfriend's cousin. Oscar Jamaly. Dying in an accident. She was shocked and during conversation, sent me a picture with cardinals hat and then a red camaro completely rendered asunder and a grizzly photo of the dead body. I do not follow baseball and so never thought much of it except the fancy car, which is when she mentioned that the guy was a baseball player but I thought, perhaps in a DR league. I am sure the accident was his fault. The sad news is that a 18 year old (an apparent girlfriend) died as well.

It happens a lot, especially with the younger guys when they get their first money from AAA ball. They go out and buy powerful sports cars and fall victim to feeling invincible. It is such a waste. I feel especially bad that he was with his fiancé. I hope for the family's sake he had enough life insurance.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1637497]Ok. I'm wrong. Perhaps they do have a traffic problem in the DR.

His hometown is Sosua. Rest in peace, Senor Taveras.

Excerpt:

St. Louis Cardinals outfielder Oscar Taveras has died in a car accident in the Dominican Republic, authorities said.

National police spokesman Jacobo Mateo Moquete confirmed Taveras' death on his Twitter account. Taveras' agent and the Cardinals' representative in the Caribbean country also said Sunday that the outfielder had died.

Taveras and his girlfriend were killed instantly, Moquete said. Taveras was driving a red Camaro while traveling between the cities of Cabarete and Sosa.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1637497]Ok. I'm wrong. Perhaps they do have a traffic problem in the DR.











Taveras and his girlfriend were killed instantly, Moquete said. Taveras was driving a red Camaro while traveling between the cities of Cabarete and Sosua.[/QUOTE]We don't hear the half of what happens in the DR.

I haven't heard or seen anyone write about g_b_p lately. Is it even still open? One thing I don't like about santo domingo is that g_b_p seems to be the only place like it in the city. I usually spend a few days in Santo Domingo and g_b_p is the only place I know to go. Does anyone know any other similiar places to go?

Showdown.

There was a place close to Colonal zona call play boy something.

$1000 pesos and a real no frills fuck. They had three or 4 girls nothing special. I pulled a thick 60 n0 r 7 who did a great job but we were in a very sleazy room wjth a couch. I just can not do them. I do better finding decent SWs. Sometimes you can catch a young chica needing some quick cash. I have been approached by girls getting off work. As a opposed to to worn out putas.

[QUOTE=Showdown;1638520]I haven't heard or seen anyone write about g_b_p lately. Is it even still open? One thing I don't like about santo domingo is that g_b_p seems to be the only place like it in the city. I usually spend a few days in Santo Domingo and g_b_p is the only place I know to go. Does anyone know any other similiar places to go?

Showdown.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Showdown;1638520]I haven't heard or seen anyone write about g_b_p lately. Is it even still open? One thing I don't like about santo domingo is that g_b_p seems to be the only place like it in the city. I usually spend a few days in Santo Domingo and g_b_p is the only place I know to go. Does anyone know any other similiar places to go?

Showdown.[/QUOTE]I wrote about Pink Pony a couple of times.

[URL]Http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2229-Santo-Domingo&p=1547250&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1547250.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1638636]I wrote about Pink Pony a couple of times.

[URL]Http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2229-Santo-Domingo&p=1547250&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1547250.[/QUOTE]I read that report. THanks for the link. You know any opening and closing times?

Showdown.

Normal massage parlour hours - - 4 pm to 10 pm, Mercedes street (one block north of and parallel to Conde, near corner of Santome) number 359 - the number is painted next to the doorway and the spot is on the second floor.

Let us know what you find out.

[QUOTE=Showdown;1638655]I read that report. THanks for the link. You know any opening and closing times?

Showdown.[/QUOTE]

I stayed at the "Hostal San Francisco de Asis" which is recommended here. Single rooms are $40 doubles $60 it's nice clean and "chica" friendly. If you walk towards the "malecon" in the evening you will find lots of street walkers. For 1'500 pesos (about $35) they will come to your place.

I booked hotel San Francisco but opted out when I found Reina Isaballa. It was cheaper and a block from Grands / Pacos. SD SWs are overlooked by this site. You can find some excellent chicas on the stroll. Most get very little business and do not appear to be worn out. Most will go with you for a 1000 pesos. There also semi pros who go on he stroll for Christmas or rent money. These ladies come in all shape and sizes. You need enough Spanish to close the deal but most will make it very easy. I have been offered cullo without prompting. When they offer their ass you know they are motivated. There are way more sellers then buyers so the girls are very motivated. Most of the girls working in the El Conde shops can be had with a little effort.

[QUOTE=You69Me;1639589]I stayed at the "Hostal San Francisco de Asis" which is recommended here. Single rooms are $40 doubles $60 it's nice clean and "chica" friendly. If you walk towards the "malecon" in the evening you will find lots of street walkers. For 1'500 pesos (about $35) they will come to your place.[/QUOTE]

There is a guy from "Cali" who hangs out with the street walkers in this area. He speaks English and knows many chicas. He will tell you if they blow good or do anal etc. It seems that the woman you choose give him a little cut.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1639667]I booked hotel San Francisco but opted out when I found Reina Isaballa. It was cheaper and a block from Grands / Pacos. SD SWs are overlooked by this site. You can find some excellent chicas on the stroll. Most get very little business and do not appear to be worn out. Most will go with you for a 1000 pesos. There also semi pros who go on he stroll for Christmas or rent money. These ladies come in all shape and sizes. You need enough Spanish to close the deal but most will make it very easy. I have been offered cullo without prompting. When they offer their ass you know they are motivated. There are way more sellers then buyers so the girls are very motivated. Most of the girls working in the El Conde shops can be had with a little effort.[/QUOTE]

The guy you mention is what is known as a pimp. If you want to be more polite, you could call him a tout.

[QUOTE=You69Me;1639689]There is a guy from "Cali" who hangs out with the street walkers in this area. He speaks English and knows many chicas. He will tell you if they blow good or do anal etc. It seems that the woman you choose give him a little cut.[/QUOTE]

He did not seem to be a pimp rather a hustler.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1639745]The guy you mention is what is known as a pimp. If you want to be more polite, you could call him a tout.[/QUOTE]

Be careful down there gentlemen.

[URL]http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/11/03/d-c-attorney-found-bound-gagged-and-strangled-to-death-in-dominican-republic/?hpid=z4[/URL]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1640556]Be careful down there gentlemen.

[URL]http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/11/03/d-c-attorney-found-bound-gagged-and-strangled-to-death-in-dominican-republic/?hpid=z4[/URL][/QUOTE]I was slightly horrified when I first read about this over the weekend. He's a DR vet, goes down there 10 times a year, and owns a property in SD. If this could happen to someone who's experienced and educated, damn this could've easily happened to me! Especially if I were to contemplate spending more time there, living there part-time, etc.

Then I read the Washington Post piece this morning and was relieved. His circumstance is not one that I will share.

Tremendously sad, not least for his elderly mother whom he lives with. Rest in peace, sir.

Most likely is was someone he knew very well who had him set up for a robbery!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1640556]Be careful down there gentlemen.

[URL]http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/11/03/d-c-attorney-found-bound-gagged-and-strangled-to-death-in-dominican-republic/?hpid=z4[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1640586]I was slightly horrified when I first read about this over the weekend. He's a DR vet, goes down there 10 times a year, and owns a property in SD. If this could happen to someone who's experienced and educated, damn this could've easily happened to me! Especially if I were to contemplate spending more time there, living there part-time, etc.

Then I read the Washington Post piece this morning and was relieved. His circumstance is not one that I will share.
[/QUOTE]What is different from what you read over the weekend versus what you read in the Washington Post? They both end with the guy getting a Dominican Necktie! Is the WaPost version written less horrifically than the Dominican version?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1640556]Be careful down there gentlemen.

[URL]http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/11/03/d-c-attorney-found-bound-gagged-and-strangled-to-death-in-dominican-republic/?hpid=z4[/URL][/QUOTE]This brings up a very good, yet grim question that I have always wondered: What happens to guys (like the man in the story) who save up all their money, leave their family behind (in their home country), and move to somewhere like to DR to live out their lives in Paradise with their chica? I'm talking about the "Sunset Years" (like 70+). I mean, you are basically putting your life in this chica and her family's hands, hoping she / they will care for you as you age and become feeble.

But isn't there any concern that once they figure out how live off of your money without you in the picture that you might wake up one day with a pillow over your face? Is there anyone here that can comment on any expats they know of who are elderly and are currently living comfortably (being properly cared for) with their adopted Dominican family in the DR? If so, how are they managing to keep the wolf pack (family) at bay ("He's an old geezer! Let's just take him to the beach and tip him out of his wheel chair into the water and say he fell out of it!")?

You guys may think I am being paranoid, but every wild-ass story you've ever seen on Investigation Discovery (I.D. Channel) happens to be 100% true! Think about that for a second, lol!

And then there is always that "I told my expat buddy all of my personal business, including how much my pension, annuities, and social security are worth. I hope he doesn't scheme with my chica and her family behind my back." angle. Dios mio.

Everyone is responsible for their own decisions. You can't always assume that this is going to happen to you, or that you can't trust anyone. There are many expats living in DR either to retire, or living there temporarily, and many that have lived there for a number of years without facing any type of an incident that has affected them directly. We hear about these incidents because they are expats. Now one can argue that because they are expats, they tend to stand out more from the regular crowd and it puts them at greater risk as it's easy to assume that they likely have some money. We can't predict how people will react, and this tragedy can happen to anyone whether they are in their home country, or in another country. As many of us are just visitors to DR, it will always going to be a bit concerning when you hear about something like this. But we all need to figure out the risks vs rewards, whether something is worth it or not, etc. And make a decision, and hope for the best. Unfortunately for this man, it ended tragically. But I'm sure as someone who had lots of experience in DR, he felt the decision he made was best for him and determined that the rewards were greater than the risks. Everyone visiting another country should always understand the risks, there are many countries that are dangerous for expats. But DR relies heavily on tourism and 99% of tourists and all other visitors have a safe visit and a vast number absolutely love it. Because of those positive experiences as a visitor, and eventually learning more about the country and culture, many decide to retire in the DR. I don't believe people should assume that just because you are with someone younger living in their country, they are going to try and end your life one morning.

But of course, everyone needs to figure this one out and make a decision that they feel is best for them. RIP, this is a tragic story. Safe mongering everyone!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1640602]This brings up a very good, yet grim question that I have always wondered: What happens to guys (like the man in the story) who save up all their money, leave their family behind (in their home country), and move to somewhere like to DR to live out their lives in Paradise with their chica? I'm talking about the "Sunset Years" (like 70+). I mean, you are basically putting your life in this chica and her family's hands, hoping she / they will care for you as you age and become feeble.

But isn't there any concern that once they figure out how live off of your money without you in the picture that you might wake up one day with a pillow over your face? Is there anyone here that can comment on any expats they know of who are elderly and are currently living comfortably (being properly cared for) with their adopted Dominican family in the DR? If so, how are they managing to keep the wolf pack (family) at bay ("He's an old geezer! Let's just take him to the beach and tip him out of his wheel chair into the water and say he fell out of it!")?

You guys may think I am being paranoid, but every wild-ass story you've ever seen on Investigation Discovery (I.D. Channel) happens to be 100% true! Think about that for a second, lol!

And then there is always that "I told my expat buddy all of my personal business, including how much my pension, annuities, and social security are worth. I hope he doesn't scheme with my chica and her family behind my back." angle. Dios mio.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PanaNyc;1640591]Most likely is was someone he knew very well who had him set up for a robbery![/QUOTE]Fuck and get up. Unless you knew them in the states they are not your friends.

I posted this in the El Salvador forum after my last trip but, that forum gets very little traffic and the same thing pretty much applies to the the. Are.

Here is an excerpt. Just wanted to get some of the vets opinion over here in the S. The. Forum.

What I realized is that many Latinos in the Dominican Republic, , Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador etc really resent the fact we are there. Yes they may pretend to be nice or want to talk to us because maybe it will benefit them in some way but, deep down I think there is resentment. Does this resentment stem from jealousy? I don't know. I have gotten used to the fact that many latins from these countries look at you with dollar signs in there eyes but, I also believe there is some sort of hatred. I also tend to believe that no matter how much you think a latina likes you they will never treat you or have feelings for you like they would if you were latin or from there home country. Yes I know that these statements are not indicative of all latins and I have met many many good people who have been genuinely nice. Maybe I am more sinical after my last trip not sure but, it certainly opened my eyes to see people I thought I knew and that respected me treat me and my friend like trash.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1640596]What is different from what you read over the weekend versus what you read in the Washington Post? They both end with the guy getting a Dominican Necktie! Is the WaPost version written less horrifically than the Dominican version?[/QUOTE]Update in the Gogo forum.

[QUOTE=Mfins;1640663]What I realized is that many Latinos in the Dominican Republic, , Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador etc really resent the fact we are there. Yes they may pretend to be nice or want to talk to us because maybe it will benefit them in some way but, deep down I think there is resentment. Does this resentment stem from jealousy? I[/QUOTE]What makes you say that? I have never thought that any locals anywhere that I have traveled resented me being there or were jealous of me. As I have always said, if you really want to know how they feel about you then show up without money / or tell them you are not giving them money or gifts.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1640556]Be careful down there gentlemen.

[URL]http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/11/03/d-c-attorney-found-bound-gagged-and-strangled-to-death-in-dominican-republic/?hpid=z4[/URL][/QUOTE]Just to update you on this story. The building that this person lived in is pretty rundown for those of you who stay at Hotel San francisco it is one block away you will see the building is not nice by any definition. It is basically, a project building that would be on the upper west side of New York with no security surrounded by luxury buildings. Secondly, I have no problem with a person's lifestyle, but he was gay and known to have young gay men over all the time at his apartment. Again, just wanted to provide you more information that is verified by fact. Again, just an update i provide no opinion for this story just giving you more information.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1640774]What makes you say that? I have never thought that any locals anywhere that I have traveled resented me being there or were jealous of me. As I have always said, if you really want to know how they feel about you then show up without money / or tell them you are not giving them money or gifts.[/QUOTE]If I lived in poverty and some privileged foreigner came to my country and tried to fuck my local girls for nothing and not contribute to the culture; I would damn sure be pissed at them and resent them.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1640853]If I lived in poverty and some privileged foreigner came to my country and tried to fuck my local girls for nothing and not contribute to the culture; I would damn sure be pissed at them and resent them.[/QUOTE]That's why few men monger in Jamaica.

[QUOTE=Mfins;1640663]I posted this in the El Salvador forum after my last trip but, that forum gets very little traffic and the same thing pretty much applies to the the. Are.

Here is an excerpt. Just wanted to get some of the vets opinion over here in the S. The. Forum.

What I realized is that many Latinos in the Dominican Republic, , Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador etc really resent the fact we are there. Yes they may pretend to be nice or want to talk to us because maybe it will benefit them in some way but, deep down I think there is resentment. Does this resentment stem from jealousy? I don't know. I have gotten used to the fact that many latins from these countries look at you with dollar signs in there eyes but, I also believe there is some sort of hatred. I also tend to believe that no matter how much you think a latina likes you they will never treat you or have feelings for you like they would if you were latin or from there home country. Yes I know that these statements are not indicative of all latins and I have met many many good people who have been genuinely nice. Maybe I am more sinical after my last trip not sure but, it certainly opened my eyes to see people I thought I knew and that respected me treat me and my friend like trash.[/QUOTE]This is a good point of disdiscussion. Definitely in Sosua, Boca, the gringo gulch in Costa Rica. All the red light district type areas, I've sensed some resentment for me being there with greater financial resources than them, not everyone but some people. I'm a blue collar guy from the mid west! I resent them for resenting me! LOL! If only they knew how hard I work! But outside the more tourist type areas it's different. People WORK! There not asking for 100 pesos or buy me beer. When they're friendly or helpful it's genuine, they're not expecting anything. Years ago in Colombia, I got my currency confused and overpaid by about 40 bucks. The guy returned the money and explained my mistake. But I think that's less likely to happen in a puta pick up area where 90% of the people are on the hustle. We can't judge a country solely by the areas we monger in.

Few men talk about it on the Internet.

[QUOTE=Helpmann;1640985]That's why few men monger in Jamaica.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1640853]If I lived in poverty and some privileged foreigner came to my country and tried to fuck my local girls for nothing and not contribute to the culture; I would damn sure be pissed at them and resent them.[/QUOTE]And that is exactly where the underlying resentment is coming from. Personally, I have a house in El Salvador and have travelled there 100's of times. I take the time out to be respectful and to learn the culture however, when I am walking into a Strip club or other bar no one there knows that. They only see me hitting on there woman, throwing money around that they themselves don't have and partying in there "locals" club. So I definitely see your point and agree with you.

When they are yelling gringo go home and other choice words its clear what they are thinking and there perception of a white face in there place of leisure.

Then when you expect the people you are friendly with down there to come to your aid but, instead also team up against you it creates a pretty miserable situation and you can clearly see what even your friends actually think of you. They will always side with there latin brothers, and always just look at you as a gringo with an underlying resentment.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1640853]If I lived in poverty and some privileged foreigner came to my country and tried to fuck my local girls for nothing and not contribute to the culture; I would damn sure be pissed at them and resent them.[/QUOTE]Yes, but are a majority of foreigners coming to DR for tourism purposes, or for mongering? I don't know what the breakdown would be, but I would guess that 90%+ are coming with their girlfriend / fiancee / wife, then you have families in that percentage, and then the remaining 10% might break down as 7% expats or people visiting for business, and the rest would be mongerers. I'm probably off on those numbers, but my point being that a good number of tourists are actually contributing to the culture in my opinion.

Sure I have seen some resentment, but not much. Even in mongering areas. I try my best to speak Spanish even if I struggle, but I find that locals are far more appreciative when you try at least. I don't wear the fanciest of watches when I'm traveling to a nation that has lots of poverty, locals can identify that I'm a foreigner but I don't try or want to stand out. I think we focus a little much on on the financial aspect of resentment from latinos, but this thinking is flawed. There are always going to be people who look at you as a cash machine, and that's unavoidable But what I've found in the DR is that no matter what your situation, people tend to be a bit more positive than parts of the western world, accept life as it is whether they have money or not, and try to make the best of the situation no matter how easy or difficult. I don't know why so many people assume that there is hatred and jealousy for visitors, many people just want to get on with their daily lives and do not care about being angry at a person who is only in their country for a temporary period of time.

[QUOTE=Mfins;1641017]And that is exactly where the underlying resentment is coming from. Personally, I have a house in El Salvador and have travelled there 100's of times. I take the time out to be respectful and to learn the culture however, when I am walking into a Strip club or other bar no one there knows that. They only see me hitting on there woman, throwing money around that they themselves don't have and partying in there "locals" club. So I definitely see your point and agree with you.

When they are yelling gringo go home and other choice words its clear what they are thinking and there perception of a white face in there place of leisure.

Then when you expect the people you are friendly with down there to come to your aid but, instead also team up against you it creates a pretty miserable situation and you can clearly see what even your friends actually think of you. They will always side with there latin brothers, and always just look at you as a gringo with an underlying resentment.[/QUOTE]If you are going into a strip club or other bar, partying, and throwing money around. And assuming that the other people in there are assuming this about you and viewing you with resentment. What are those other people in there doing? Aren't they doing the same thing you are? So why assume they don't have money to throw around? And are just viewing you negatively and with resentment?

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1640853]If I lived in poverty and some privileged foreigner came to my country and tried to fuck my local girls for nothing and not contribute to the culture; I would damn sure be pissed at them and resent them.[/QUOTE]Great point that should be obvious for us mongers. Though I think it's more fucking them for lots of money (at least to the locals) that really bothers them more than "for nothing. " If a young gringo that speaks Spanish is down there trying to pick up girls based on his charm and good looks (which can certainly be done if you have time), I don't think it's that insulting to the locals. But when a dirt-poor man from DR or Colombian sees a Gringo throwing what to him is two week's earnings at a girl for a fuck, that hurts.

Always be nice to the locals and watch what you're doing in these locales. We already have enemies, so it's not a good idea to look for trouble.

[QUOTE=Puntz79;1641030]If you are going into a strip club or other bar, partying, and throwing money around. And assuming that the other people in there are assuming this about you and viewing you with resentment. What are those other people in there doing? Aren't they doing the same thing you are? So why assume they don't have money to throw around? And are just viewing you negatively and with resentment?[/QUOTE]Because the bars or clubs I am going to the locals barely have $5. 00 for the entry fee and $2. 00 for a beer. Let alone $50-$100 to go upstairs or outside with a chica. They see me and my friends with white faces buying beers, dancing, maybe being a little loud, spending money like it grows on trees and then going to bang their women. I think this is what causes the resentment.

Dominicans are very class conscious. Wealthy Dominicans do not associate with the poor very much. The big happy family stuff is bull shit. Go to the Blue Mall no one in the place has a tan. Blanco Dominicans stay blanco by choice and practice. How Dominicans view us has many answers. The folk we see are envious. We appear to have the world by the balls. We spend more money in a week then they make in six months. Most are hoping for some of the cash will drop there way. I will say I have been a couple places where I did see resentment. Once in a casino and once in a dance club. Both cases guys had been drinking. Watching your ass no matter where you are is required.

[QUOTE=Mfins;1641038]Because the bars or clubs I am going to the locals barely have $5. 00 for the entry fee and $2. 00 for a beer. Let alone $50-$100 to go upstairs or outside with a chica. They see me and my friends with white faces buying beers, dancing, maybe being a little loud, spending money like it grows on trees and then going to bang their women. I think this is what causes the resentment.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Combo;1641034]Great point that should be obvious for us mongers. Though I think it's more fucking them for lots of money (at least to the locals) that really bothers them more than "for nothing. " If a young gringo that speaks Spanish is down there trying to pick up girls based on his charm and good looks (which can certainly be done if you have time), I don't think it's that insulting to the locals. But when a dirt-poor man from DR or Colombian sees a Gringo throwing what to him is two week's earnings at a girl for a fuck, that hurts.

Always be nice to the locals and watch what you're doing in these locales. We already have enemies, so it's not a good idea to look for trouble.[/QUOTE]My thinking is a little different. If a gringo is spending lots of money he is looked at as a sucker or someone who is contributing to the culture because the local will feel the money is staying in house. Maybe the girl gives the local guy some money, or it goes to the local guys kids so there is no reason for him to feel resentment because he is getting over on the gringo. It's the privileged gringo who feels he is owed the same deal as the local guy that triggers resentment.

Puntz79, if you are trying to incorporate yourself into the culture by learning to speak Spanish, learning their cultural ways, this shouldn't trigger resentment verses a guy who could care less about the culture and just wants to fuck for cheap and go home.

I did not share this before maybe I should have, but have not talked a lot not trying to argue. An interesting thing happen on Conde street a little while ago. I was walking on conde street and a gay black american man was punched in the face by a Dominican man. The Dominican was promptly arrested and I asked one of the touts what was that about. He said the dominican man was very angry that the black man did not pay him for having sex with him. Now, I was not really watching the fight because the black man did not hit back and I am not one to stop and watch, but when I saw the dominican man promptly arrested and he was being led away I had to turn back and ask what was going on. Just thought it very interesting to have a violent Confrontation in the middle of the day on conde street. How can people be so different in there expectations of one another. Just sharing that thought.

SD is coming to be a hot spot for Gay sex tourist. The park near EL Conde is Gay central. There are always several gay guys in Paco / Grands. The police seem to leave them alone and do not hinder. Dominican men do not like or tolerate Malicons. There seems to be violence around gay sporting life styles. There often more gay guys in Pacos then SWs /.

[QUOTE=Revere;1641226]I did not share this before maybe I should have, but have not talked a lot not trying to argue. An interesting thing happen on Conde street a little while ago. I was walking on conde street and a gay black american man was punched in the face by a Dominican man. The Dominican was promptly arrested and I asked one of the touts what was that about. He said the dominican man was very angry that the black man did not pay him for having sex with him. Now, I was not really watching the fight because the black man did not hit back and I am not one to stop and watch, but when I saw the dominican man promptly arrested and he was being led away I had to turn back and ask what was going on. Just thought it very interesting to have a violent Confrontation in the middle of the day on conde street. How can people be so different in there expectations of one another. Just sharing that thought.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1641288]SD is coming to be a hot spot for Gay sex tourist. The park near EL Conde is Gay central. There are always several gay guys in Paco / Grands. The police seem to leave them alone and do not hinder. Dominican men do not like or tolerate Malicons. There seems to be violence around gay sporting life styles. There often more gay guys in Pacos then SWs /.[/QUOTE]Not sure what this means going forward I know off topic, but murders and fights on conde street are not good for anyone.

[QUOTE=Revere;1641226] He said the dominican man was very angry that the black man did not pay him for having sex with him. [/QUOTE]Nothing is free in the DR!

[QUOTE=OldKool;1641288]SD is coming to be a hot spot for Gay sex tourist. The park near EL Conde is Gay central. There are always several gay guys in Paco / Grands. The police seem to leave them alone and do not hinder. Dominican men do not like or tolerate Malicons. There seems to be violence around gay sporting life styles. There often more gay guys in Pacos then SWs /.[/QUOTE]And that is the reason why I really do not hang out on in El Conde. I go to the cigar shop over there, and that's about it.

I have a good time on El Conde. Ladies know we are there and come looking for business. I got a manicure pedicure and a massage for 1000 pesos. Conde is maybe the safest place in the country for tourist. Cops are everywhere making sure we are safe. Once I was looking a casa. A cop escorted me and help me find the place.

[QUOTE=Troubleman69;1641377]And that is the reason why I really do not hang out on in El Conde. I go to the cigar shop over there, and that's about it.[/QUOTE]

Hello all,

I will be in SD for the first time, and staying in Barcelo Santo Domingo. My research shows it's chica friendly hotel and near the famous GDP casa. But I am wondering if there are places where I can bring chica back to the hotel?

Also how are the girls compare to Costa Rica and Colombia? In term of quality and price?

Thank you

Let us know if it is chica friendly. I was not awhere it was chica friendly.

[QUOTE=Monger2012;1643241]Hello all,

I will be in SD for the first time, and staying in Barcelo Santo Domingo. My research shows it's chica friendly hotel and near the famous GDP casa. But I am wondering if there are places where I can bring chica back to the hotel?

Also how are the girls compare to Costa Rica and Colombia? In term of quality and price?

Thank you[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Monger2012;1643241]Also how are the girls compare to Costa Rica and Colombia? In term of quality and price?[/QUOTE]RTFF. There are pictures in the picture gallery. How each man quantifies quality is never the same. Not sure why you would go to place B looking for what you found in place A though. Why not just return to place A. If you are intent on going to place B then have an open and objective mind and be ready for new experiences instead of thinking of how it differs from place A. I'm in Santo Domingo now, but when I get to the Philippines in a couple of days I'm not going to try to compare it to here. I'm going to enjoy each place for what it is.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1641661]I have a good time on El Conde. Ladies know we are there and come looking for business. I got a manicure pedicure and a massage for 1000 pesos. Conde is maybe the safest place in the country for tourist. Cops are everywhere making sure we are safe. Once I was looking a casa. A cop escorted me and help me find the place.[/QUOTE]I agree. For an extra 500 the girls will usually give a BBBJ.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1643390]Let us know if it is chica friendly. I was not awhere it was chica friendly.[/QUOTE]It is not chica friendly, if you book a double you can get her in as your mate, if not, prepare to pay $50-$60 for her.

[QUOTE=Monger2012;1643241]Hello all,

I will be in SD for the first time, and staying in Barcelo Santo Domingo. My research shows it's chica friendly hotel and near the famous GDP casa. But I am wondering if there are places where I can bring chica back to the hotel?

Also how are the girls compare to Costa Rica and Colombia? In term of quality and price?

Thank you[/QUOTE]El Barcelo is not chica friendly, even if you register with the girl. Friends of mine who have stayed there have complained about their registered novias getting hard times from security at night. You will have to fight with security, you will win if the girl is registered, but be prepared for to pay bribes if not.

BTW, going to GBP later today. An ex novia, wants me to pay 5500 for extensions I have not seen her in months. She hits me up via whatsapp for this without even giving me any. I wonder how she would feel if I told her to meet me at a cabana first then afterwards we go buy her extensions. At least I had the decency to talk her up with out asking for sex. I can get 5 pops and a couple of drinks for that money.

[QUOTE=Revere;1641226]I did not share this before maybe I should have, but have not talked a lot not trying to argue. An interesting thing happen on Conde street a little while ago. I was walking on conde street and a gay black american man was punched in the face by a Dominican man. The Dominican was promptly arrested and I asked one of the touts what was that about. He said the dominican man was very angry that the black man did not pay him for having sex with him. Now, I was not really watching the fight because the black man did not hit back and I am not one to stop and watch, but when I saw the dominican man promptly arrested and he was being led away I had to turn back and ask what was going on. Just thought it very interesting to have a violent Confrontation in the middle of the day on conde street. How can people be so different in there expectations of one another. Just sharing that thought.[/QUOTE]Years ago I saw 2 dominicans steal some gold chains from 2 female tourists and hop on a moto to get away. A politur tackled the motorcycle and held both at gunpoint until backup came. Backup took the gold chains and the 2 female tourists in a car, possibly to fill out a report? One crook was in handcuffs, the other had the shoe of the cop on his back. The crook (not in handcuffs) was complaining very loudly, the other in handcuffs a little less loudly. When all of a sudden BANG, the cop shot the crook with out handcuffs in his back. The other shut up right away. A little later another car showed up and both crooks were taken away.

I don't know what happened to them, but from what I understand the politur have "free fire" in toursit areas and can shoot a suspected criminal if they want. The same is on all inclusive resorts with armed security.

I live here and have seen some shit that would not play in the states, but it may be necessary to keep the criminals in line. I live in a gated community with armed guards, I have not experienced any issues but I feel safe here and inside the gates nothing happens.

I was going to go to GBP, but now I am in the mood to go to el conde. Maybe GBP then El Conde.

5000 pesos is the going rate fof st at the normal casas in SD and even more in PC. GBP is not the norm. So if all your girl wants is extensions and is willing to put in the work this could be a good deal. Iam sure ith her new hairdo she will be in a great mood. Some time you have to do the math. Several times banging a really good fuck beats sport questionable sport fucks.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1644952]El Barcelo is not chica friendly, even if you register with the girl. Friends of mine who have stayed there have complained about their registered novias getting hard times from security at night. You will have to fight with security, you will win if the girl is registered, but be prepared for to pay bribes if not.

BTW, going to GBP later today. An ex novia, wants me to pay 5500 for extensions I have not seen her in months. She hits me up via whatsapp for this without even giving me any. I wonder how she would feel if I told her to meet me at a cabana first then afterwards we go buy her extensions. At least I had the decency to talk her up with out asking for sex. I can get 5 pops and a couple of drinks for that money.[/QUOTE]

On the Road again.

Gents Old Kool is locked and loaded. Heading to the Dr in 2 weeks. SD and Sosua with very loose plans. I can get a manicure pedicure and 30 minute massage for 1000 pesos in classy salon on El Conde. Great way to recoup from the travel. In SD my first night maybe with the sister I missed on last trip. She loves getting her pussy eaten almost as much as I like doing it. If not the phone book is thick. Tuesday it on to Sosua either very early or early afternoon depending on my Monday night action. At least one afternoon in Caberetti. Hotel in Sosua is wide open I have two spots in mind. They run about $40 a night. I usually do Sosua suites but $60 a night is a little pricey when your are cheap. I will let you guys know how the other spots are later.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1644955]Years ago I saw 2 dominicans steal some gold chains from 2 female tourists and hop on a moto to get away. A politur tackled the motorcycle and held both at gunpoint until backup came. Backup took the gold chains and the 2 female tourists in a car, possibly to fill out a report? One crook was in handcuffs, the other had the shoe of the cop on his back. The crook (not in handcuffs) was complaining very loudly, the other in handcuffs a little less loudly. When all of a sudden BANG, the cop shot the crook with out handcuffs in his back. The other shut up right away. A little later another car showed up and both crooks were taken away.

I don't know what happened to them, but from what I understand the politur have "free fire" in toursit areas and can shoot a suspected criminal if they want. The same is on all inclusive resorts with armed security.

[/QUOTE]But wouldn't a "free fire" kind of edict scare most tourist rather than make them feel safe? Most people are afraid of their shadows, and some are so sheltered that they've never heard live gunfire in their entire lives. I doubt the DR is letting the Politur go around shooting crooks all willy nilly. I would imagine if that crook in your story was shot while a family of tourist with kids were passing by, they wouldn't go back home telling their friends how safe the DR is for tourist, LOL.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1645235]But wouldn't a "free fire" kind of edict scare most tourist rather than make them feel safe? Most people are afraid of their shadows, and some are so sheltered that they've never heard live gunfire in their entire lives. I doubt the DR is letting the Politur go around shooting crooks all willy nilly. I would imagine if that crook in your story was shot while a family of tourist with kids were passing by, they wouldn't go back home telling their friends how safe the DR is for tourist, LOL.[/QUOTE]Sounds a little like New York City, LOL.

5,000 pesos? I don't doubt any casa will accept that much if you offer it. 3,000 to 3,500 is the high end you have to pay at the places around Pasteur. 1,000 to 1,500 is normal for places off the tourist track. GBP is one of several. Of course you have to add another 500 to 1,000 depending on how many taxistas and touts are involved. Maybe some of the experts here can share information about how to get to the places without the taxi and tout noise.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1645104]5000 pesos is the going rate fof st at the normal casas in SD and even more in PC. GBP is not the norm. So if all your girl wants is extensions and is willing to put in the work this could be a good deal. Iam sure ith her new hairdo she will be in a great mood. Some time you have to do the math. Several times banging a really good fuck beats sport questionable sport fucks.[/QUOTE]

I am going to SDQ tomorrow, I have been away from the internet.

Other than hoe row in gazcue or gbp are there are there any new-ish places?

Is pink pony still open?

Are there any casas around la zona colonal? Streets and cross streets please.

I will send a update when I am there if I see anything new.

Here is a quick updates from my last trip in July:

If you want a nice dinner go to sophias in Naco: [URL]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g147289-d943462-Reviews-Sophias-Santo_Domingo_Santo_Domingo_Province_Dominican_Republic.html[/URL].

I had a good steak and good scene but its not cheap but its my go place for a nice dinner.

I have been staying at hotel la morada. Basic place and its about $40/ nt. One annoying thing is that you need to be buzzed in and out.

[URL]http://www.hotellamorada.com/[/URL]

Hoe row is the same, less chic now. GBP is worse, I blame the new-ish splits of the rooms; More chics are being taken TLN or taken off site so only bottom of the barrel are around. That's why I asked about the zona I am looking for something more in the 1000-2500 price point vs 4 k of hoe row.

I am just a few hours from taking a plane back to Puerto Rico. It was a nice weekend. This weekend I met two new Badoo girls, one of them came from Bani to see me plus repeated with a girl I met last summer. I stayed at Casona Dorada. Full report about this hotel, my experiences with the ladies and my discussion with a cab driver coming soon.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1645104]5000 pesos is the going rate fof st at the normal casas in SD and even more in PC. GBP is not the norm. So if all your girl wants is extensions and is willing to put in the work this could be a good deal. Iam sure ith her new hairdo she will be in a great mood. Some time you have to do the math. Several times banging a really good fuck beats sport questionable sport fucks.[/QUOTE]I blew her off due to the request. I was tempted to tell her that but I will leave her guessing. For 5 k I can go to GBP 5 times, I go early sometimes and do not sport fuck, but when I cum I'm done.

The only difference with this girl is I can screw her raw CIP as she has had her ovaries removed earlier this year due to some issues. I trust her sexually not to have and STD's. I can DATY with no issue, she gives BBJTCCIM with no problem, she is willing to try anal she will do a trio so maybe the 5 k is not an issue. Talking myself into it.

Anyway, I can get laid anytime I want down here for pesos or for "free".

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1645235]But wouldn't a "free fire" kind of edict scare most tourist rather than make them feel safe? Most people are afraid of their shadows, and some are so sheltered that they've never heard live gunfire in their entire lives. I doubt the DR is letting the Politur go around shooting crooks all willy nilly. I would imagine if that crook in your story was shot while a family of tourist with kids were passing by, they wouldn't go back home telling their friends how safe the DR is for tourist, LOL.[/QUOTE]The free fire stuff is not publicized, there was a news report of some guy going crazy inside an edesur office. Complaining about the prices and generally causing problems, he had no weapon but was ranting and raving. The security guard shot and killed him with a shotgun, there were no reprecussions and the security guard got off scott free. They had video on the local news. It depends who you are and where you are.

The tourist police can do what is required to protect tourists, private security in the resorts can do the same.

I was at a resort with a novia and decided to do her on some lounge chairs near the ocean, the resort had a beach party that night and we were far enough from the party it was dark and we decided to go for it. After we were done, we noticed an armed security guard had place himself with his back to us but facing the trees to "protect" us. He was in the shadows with a shotgun and I did not notice him at first, my novia did.

I was told by the security forces that people sometime try to enter from the edges of the resorts, also they have enter the beach with boats to rob the guests and they are allowed to repel them with any force they see fit.

The only thing I saw first hand is what I reported with the tourist police in the colonial zone. The other stuff was told to me, so take it as that, not first hand knowledge.

But the problem with that:

[URL]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-student-killed-on-costa-rica-class-trip/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1646655]But the problem with that:

[URL]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-student-killed-on-costa-rica-class-trip/[/URL][/QUOTE]Just in case people have problems with the link I cut and pasted it directly onto the forum (thank you Mr Enternational).

SAN JOSE, Costa Rica. A 16-year-old USA High school student was shot and killed at a Costa Rican hotel by a security guard who mistook him for a thief, authorities said Thursday.

High school senior Justin Johnston of McLouth, Kan. , was shot in the chest before dawn Thursday at the La Cangreja Lodge hotel in the city of La Fortuna de San Carlos, Costa Rican police said in a statement.

The security guard, who was identified as a 34-year-old man by the last name of Guevara, has been detained, police said.

Police said the students had been sent to bed at 10 pm Wednesday but a group left their rooms and went to another building on the premises. They were returning to their rooms before dawn Thursday through a desolate area when the security guard spotted them and thinking they were thieves opened fire.

Johnston was on a nine-day trip to the Central American nation with a dozen other students in the school's Spanish club, said McLouth School District Superintendent Steve Splichal. No other students were injured, he said. The group was accompanied by two school district sponsors.

"The district's primary concern is for the Johnston family and also for the many students and staff members who are affected by this tragedy," Splichal said in a written statement. He said the district had activated its crisis plan and that counselors would be available for students and staff.

"The safety and security of the students and sponsors is imperative to the school district," he said.

Arrangements for the other Kansas students to return early are being made by EF Education Tours of Cambridge, Mass. , which arranged the trip.

Johnston's death was the second time a northeast Kansas student was killed while on an educational trip to Costa Rica, according to the Lawrence Journal-World.

Shannon Lucile Martin was only a few days from graduating from the University of Kansas in May 2001 when she was murdered in Golfito, Costa Rica, while walking to her residence. She had been in Golfito finishing a class project to collect rare fern samples.

This is part of third world life. Being in the wrong place at the wrong time can be deadliy.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1646655]But the problem with that:

[URL]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-student-killed-on-costa-rica-class-trip/[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1646655]But the problem with that:

[URL]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-student-killed-on-costa-rica-class-trip/[/URL][/QUOTE]I bet the security guard gets off clean.

I arrived to Santo Domingo before 8:00 am Last Saturday. A short 40 minutes flight from San Juan that cost me about $120 thanks to a credit they provided me for a previous delayed flight. My cab driver Ariel was there when I arrived, there was no traffic at that time. I was considering staying at Jaguar in Gazcue because they have the most comfortable beds of all the hotels I have used in DR but Ariel convinced me to try Casona Dorada. This hotel is on Independencia diagonal to Villar Hermanos at the other corner of the same block. The entrance is by a side street. It has a small indoor parking and a small open lobby with complimentary coffee and water 24-7. The owner's wife which BTW has a gorgeous body was at the lobby. She ordered one guy to show me the only standard room available at that time, it was room 223. The room was nothing spectacular but I agreed to take it after testing the bed was comfortable enough for me and after they guy told me that the room has a new inverter air conditioner unit that I can leave on 24-7. The cost for the room was 1900 pesos per night but I was out of pesos so I paid $93 for two nights. I gave the lady $100 but she was short of change so she put a $7 paper with my name inside the register machine. My driver Ariel got a 500 pesos commission for his referral. Ariel was happy after having a picture with some famous local television host called El Pach. The hotel has a contract with some local channels so it is common to see local stars staying there. That day I observed a few local television models wearing that hot outfit they use on television.

I walked two blocks away to an exchange place who gave me 43.85 pesos per dollar. I read a month ago on Listin Diario that by 2015 the peso is going to be devaluated to 47 pesos per dollar.

When I came back to my room I tried to connect to wifi was it was impossible in my room. The air conditioner was not working well, there was no connection between the air unit and the remote control. I went to the lobby but they were unable to fix the problem. A person checked out early so I got moved to room 210. This room was small but nicer and aircon was good and there was wi-fi inside. I contacted a Badoo girl a new one. She told me she will be with me in 30 minutes and she was in before noon. She is pretty, 23 yrs old with a baby. She has belly and nose piercing and a Hello, kitty tattoo over her kitty kitty. It took less than five minutes to have her naked on the bed I licked her all had sex with her and came in her mouth. She was an energetic service provider. We had a little chat after sex. I always chat with the ladies. Her short term goal in her life is to get a Samsung Galaxy 5 phone. She already has the Galaxy 4 so she is not far of this life achievement. Go for it, Rosa! She has hair extensions so she is a typical chapeadora (a girl who gets things the way we all love). A mi me gustan las chapas que vibran. She loves threesome with other girl and I sense a trio with her and one of her hot friends she show me on pictures is going to be nice. She has to leave early so I gave her 1000 pesos for her cab back home. She asked me for change as most drivers do not have any so she got 200 pesos more.

Barely after she left another girl from Badoo sent me a whatsapp message that she arrived from Bani. I called Ariel and we went for her. She was in an area called La Pintura near Plaza de la Bandera. Maria is a small pretty 20 years old girl. She has long natural black hair with a hot body. She also has a baby. I was hungry so we went to the hotel to eat at the restaurant. It was not expensive, food for two cost less than $20. At times she sat over my lap, we were the only ones at the restaurant. She was like she was really in love by the way she talk, the sweet way she look at me, a perfect girlfriend experience. We went to my room after lunch. By the way, the girls were never asked for a cedula. She gave me a hug and a sweet kiss. She sat over me, we chat a little. She told me that I was always online on whatsapp by barely talk to her. I explained her why and she was happy. More kisses and hugs and she moved to the bed. I moved next to her. More kisses. She moved out the bed and stripped her shirt out. She looked sexy on jeans and a black lace bra. She hugged me and bite my ear. She moved out again and sexily took down her jean for my viewing pleasure. Her black lace bra perfectly matched with her lacy black thong. Back to the bed she put her hand under her thong and began to masturbate. You liked it? She asked. Yes, it was my answer. It was very erotic. She took her hand out and offered me to lick her finger and I pleased her. After the first lick she gently took my head and put it between her thighs so I eat her for a few minutes. She took it inside her mouth. Minutes later she moaned to my ear the following phrase "haz conmigo lo que quieras" (do whatever you want to me). So I ordered her to be in doggie position and she opened her the widest you can ever imagine. I took her by her wide and firm buttocks and penetrated her. Later she rode over me and did missionary too. Her moves were identical to pornstar Abella Anderson. I finally finished and it was the most pleasurable experience in a couple of years. We have a little conversation then noticed that it was near 5:00 pm, she was supposed to be on her way to Bani at 4:00 pm. Ariel was waiting for us since 4:00 pm as we told him we were going to be out at that time but our session took a little more than expected. Maria is now #1 on my list for the next trip, so bad she lives out of the capital. We went to the lobby and Ariel was happy taking selfies with two television models that were on high heels and skimpy sexy dresses. I have only been 9 hours in Santo Domingo and it has been great. To be continued.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1647423][/QUOTE]Lovely account with as usual, humorous undertones. Thanks. I recently came to know the term "chapadora" from a woman there but evidently "chapeadora" is the right expression. I also discovered that saying "tranqui" that I use commonly in French (translation -no problem) is perceived as a barrio word and in at least one instance, irked a woman from Santiago.

Casona Dorada? Is it worthwhile trying? I stayed at the place last time that you had recommended. Forgot the name but close to Villar Hermanos and for $50, it was good.

It is always fun to read Boricua's reports.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1647803]Lovely account with as usual, humorous undertones. Thanks. I recently came to know the term "chapadora" from a woman there but evidently "chapeadora" is the right expression. I also discovered that saying "tranqui" that I use commonly in French (translation -no problem) is perceived as a barrio word and in at least one instance, irked a woman from Santiago.

Casona Dorada? Is it worthwhile trying? I stayed at the place last time that you had recommended. Forgot the name but close to Villar Hermanos and for $50, it was good.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1647803]Lovely account with as usual, humorous undertones. Thanks. I recently came to know the term "chapadora" from a woman there but evidently "chapeadora" is the right expression. I also discovered that saying "tranqui" that I use commonly in French (translation -no problem) is perceived as a barrio word and in at least one instance, irked a woman from Santiago.

Casona Dorada? Is it worthwhile trying? I stayed at the place last time that you had recommended. Forgot the name but close to Villar Hermanos and for $50, it was good.[/QUOTE]Some girls hate barrio words or phrases. I have earned a couple of "I do not want to hear that word from you again" when I say words that I copy from social sites: no bulto, no wiri, tu ta dando cotorra are a few barrio phrases.

Casona Dorada was good, during my stay wifi was inconsistent and the breakfast was not that great but if you are into boiled and scrambled eggs, salami, bread, juice coffee and milk you are going to be ok. The cost of rooms is from 1900 to 2500, they have a gym, a pool with jacuzzi and a restaurant. One great disadvantage from this hotel is that they do not have in room safes. Casona Doroda has more common areas with tables and furnitures to rest and chat with other people.

Boricua,

Of course girls don't want to hear that "jerga del barrio" from you. That kind of slang reminds them of their husbands / boyfriends and makes them worry you might take a swing at them. When you talk like that it ruins the knight in shining armor fantasy.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1647923]Some girls hate barrio words or phrases. I have earned a couple of "I do not want to hear that word from you again" when I say words that I copy from social sites: no bulto, no wiri, tu ta dando cotorra are a few barrio phrases.

Casona Dorada was good, during my stay wifi was inconsistent and the breakfast was not that great but if you are into boiled and scrambled eggs, salami, bread, juice coffee and milk you are going to be ok. The cost of rooms is from 1900 to 2500, they have a gym, a pool with jacuzzi and a restaurant. One great disadvantage from this hotel is that they do not have in room safes. Casona Doroda has more common areas with tables and furnitures to rest and chat with other people.[/QUOTE]

We left the Bani Girl back to La Pintura to have her take the Bani bus. It cost 125 pesos. Better than taking the bus near the Plaza de la Bandera area is to take the bus at Parque Enriquillobut she wanted to avoid all city stops. Oh here come the bus! Bye bye bus! It was crowded. Her rationalization makes no sense, it is better to take it from bus central than from a stop. I said bye bye to her and was in the mood for more food. Ariel suggested me trying a place with the name of Cerdo and something I do not remember. It is on 27 de Febrero and Privada. They sell unprepared pork food. You choose your cuts and they grill / fry it. We chose a smoked chop, a regular center cut pork chop and a set of boneless rib meat, all weighted two and a half pounds. It cost less than $10, with a soda, juice, plantains, cassava and a full avocado included. It was tasty and cheap. Ariel told me that a nearby place is actually the hottest spot for driking. The name of the place is Ron Depot. Ron means rum but they sell all kind of liquor at the cheapest price.

Ariel took me back to the hotel, during my transfer back a girl called. It was the same girl I spent most of the time during my last trip. She is a smart and intelligent girl with culture knowledge, a person you can spend hours talking without getting bored. She is marriage material if I were a local.

The date was set for an hour from now. I went to the room while Ariel waited in the lobby sipping coffee and watching tv. I entered to the room and it was ice cold. Ohhh, I love it. That was the single reason that I do not stayed this time at Hostal San Francisco de Asis. The air is activated by your room key and if you leave the room it is deactivated even if you leave the key into the slot. So after I took a shower we headed to Simon Bolivar barrio. Simon Bolivar is a little north of the city between Villas Agricolas and Capotillo. Simon Bolivar was described by Ariel as a typical barrio, with peaceful areas and some hot ones. It is about 12 minutes from hotel. There were lots of people on the streets, lots of pretty barrio girls I can say. There were plenty of them. I asked Ariel how safe it is to party in the barrio environment for a person like me. He said if I behave I am not going to to have trouble but to minimize risks it is better to be escorted by a local. Each barrio has its degree of level from zero to some. You can have party one day without trouble, the next day some drunk guy behave badly with a girl or other folks and trouble will arise. Damn!, that busty young girl with the pink miniskirt smiled at me and threw a kiss, she probably recognized me as boricuaonline, LOL. I am not El Pach but I am the Boricua in the house.

We get easy to my lady house and Ariel took us to Plaza Sambil. I first visited Sambil barely after it was opened. It was a boring place with very few people. This time the place was crowded. There was no available tables at the Food court, we took a few minutes looking around until one was emptied. We spent about 4 hours talking while sipping Presidentes. She is going to work on a documentary in Santiago next week and a local film in a month. We talked about everything from chikingunya to politics and personal matters. It is always a pleasure to enjoy the beauty of this blonde white green eyed Santiago lady. It was over 11 pm when we decided it is time to go back home so we called Aero taxi, it is 150 pesos from Sambil. We took the elevator alone where she gave me a very affectionate deep French kiss. Mmm, yummy. We went out to the main entrance where a cab my lady identified as an Aero was waiting. We took it and went back to her house. The lady in pink was still at the same place with 3 other girls. We arrived to my lady home.

I kissed her goodbye and told the driver to take me back to Casona Dorada. When I arrived to my hotel I observed a dozen street girls on Avenida Independencia corner in front of Navarro Hotel which is almost in front of Casona Dorada. I gave 300 pesos to the driver and he said it is 900 pesos. Why que se cree este pendejo? Pens (what does this guy thinks?) We argued about five minutes. He told me about the increasing prices of fuel. Breaking news! Oil price has recently decreased about 30%. He told me that it was two transfers. Ok, that is why I am paying 150 plus 150 = 300 pesos. He told me Simon Bolivar was a dangerous area. Ok but it is up to you if you go there or not, and you agreed to take us there. I argued that the car has no air conditioner so it should be cheaper. At that time I noticed something: it was not an Aero taxi, it was an Apolo. Apolo is usually 25 pesos more expensive than Aero. So we di not took the cab we called. Oh, you are an Apolo, not an Aero, I told him, I am sorry. Can you give me a minute? He said ok. So I called Apolo and put it on speaker on my Galaxy Note 4 and asked taxi central: How much for a ride from Sambil to Simon Bolivar and from Simon Bolivar to Gazcue with no waiting time in a comfortable (air conditioned) car? 350 pesos was the answer. Lesson learned, when you call for a cab always ask unit number and car color to be sure you are using the service you hired with an agreed price.

As I entered my hotel there were seven of the television models arriving, they were from Colorvision channel 9. They were wearing their sexy outfits with mini dress and cleavage and high heels and big butts and big tits everythink looking perfect. La combi completa. I was tired so I went to my room to chat with my Simon bolivar lady but I was having trouble connecting to the wi-fi. Day one end.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1648080]Boricua,

Of course girls don't want to hear that "jerga del barrio" from you. That kind of slang reminds them of their husbands / boyfriends and makes them worry you might take a swing at them. When you talk like that it ruins the knight in shining armor fantasy.[/QUOTE]I agree with you Knowledge pero a mi me gusta las chapas que vibran, LOL. I love to observe La Materialista on that video, pretty sexy lady. I asked a local what does las chapas que vibran means. She told me las chapas son las nalgas (butt) and the movement the girl do when she ride over a guy in the sexual act is the chapas que vibran.

Santo Domingo. - The National Police on Tuesady said it apprehended two men in connection with the murder of US citizen Van Teasley, whose body was found in his residence in the upscale sector of Gazcue on November 2.

Police spokesman Jacobo Mateo identified the suspects as Luigy Miguel González Gómez (Coca Negra), 20, and Jhon Michael Cabrera, 19.

He said González had a close relationship with Teasley during around one year and introduced him to Cabrera as his cousin.

Mateo said the two planned Teasley's death and bound him with two tie-wraps bought in a business nearby. "The American was killed to steal 1,500 dollars, clothes, shoes and cell phones. ".

He said Gonzalez had confessed to using a pillow to suffocate Teasley.

USA Media report that Teasley was a prominent attorney hailing from the Washington DC area.

Three mistakes to avoid:

1. Having $1,500 cash on hand.

2. Letting anyone know you have $1,500 cash on hand.

3. Allowing yourself to be in a secluded location with someone you don't know (the cousin).

May the victim rest in peace.

[QUOTE=Revere;1648931]Santo Domingo. - The National Police on Tuesady said it apprehended two men in connection with the murder of US citizen Van Teasley, whose body was found in his residence in the upscale sector of Gazcue on November 2.

Police spokesman Jacobo Mateo identified the suspects as Luigy Miguel Gonzlez Gmez (Coca Negra), 20, and Jhon Michael Cabrera, 19.

He said Gonzlez had a close relationship with Teasley during around one year and introduced him to Cabrera as his cousin.

Mateo said the two planned Teasley's death and bound him with two tie-wraps bought in a business nearby. "The American was killed to steal 1,500 dollars, clothes, shoes and cell phones. ".

He said Gonzalez had confessed to using a pillow to suffocate Teasley.

USA Media report that Teasley was a prominent attorney hailing from the Washington DC area.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1649001]Three mistakes to avoid:

1. Having $1,500 cash on hand.

2. Letting anyone know you have $1,500 cash on hand.

3. Allowing yourself to be in a secluded location with someone you don't know (the cousin).

May the victim rest in peace.[/QUOTE]So what do you think the minimum to kill over would be? It did not say he told anyone how much he had. It only said what they got after they killed him. And don't most guys bring that much when they go on vacation there? And the guy was with his boyfriend of 1 year. You mean to tell me if your girlfriend brought her sister or cousin to your house then you would not let them in?

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1648216]
I gave 300 pesos to the driver and he said it is 900 pesos. Why que se cree este pendejo? Pens (what does this guy thinks?) We argued about five minutes. He told me about the increasing prices of fuel. Breaking news! Oil price has recently decreased about 30%. He told me that it was two transfers. Ok, that is why I am paying 150 plus 150 = 300 pesos. He told me Simon Bolivar was a dangerous area. Ok but it is up to you if you go there or not, and you agreed to take us there. I argued that the car has no air conditioner so it should be cheaper. At that time I noticed something: it was not an Aero taxi, it was an Apolo. Apolo is usually 25 pesos more expensive than Aero. So we di not took the cab we called. Oh, you are an Apolo, not an Aero, I told him, I am sorry. Can you give me a minute? He said ok. So I called Apolo and put it on speaker on my Galaxy Note 4 and asked taxi central: How much for a ride from Sambil to Simon Bolivar and from Simon Bolivar to Gazcue with no waiting time in a comfortable (air conditioned) car? 350 pesos was the answer. Lesson learned, when you call for a cab always ask unit number and car color to be sure you are using the service you hired with an agreed price.

[/QUOTE]Great lesson taught as well as learned! He came with the 900 hoping to get argued down to any thing more than the 350 price. You pulled out the phone, called central, put them speaker and killed his hustle. If the price isn't establish the hustle is in full effect.

Although your tone is argumentative, your questions are fair. We're all adults who are entitled to make our own choices, the purpose of my comments are to help other avoid what happened to Mr. Teasley and others over the years.

- "The minimum amount to kill over" is generally unknowable but, depending on the circumstances, it could be more or less than $1,500. So, to be clear, my advice is to avoid letting people know you have cash on hand. It's possible the killers didn't know how much cash the victim had. I think it's likely they new there was cash.

- "Don't guys bring that much when they go on vacation?" I think it probably varies. Whatever amount anyone brings, the most important thing is to avoid letting people know. I you have cash on hand and especially if other know, it is very important to be extra aware of your surroundings and the people around you. Locals and foreigners leaving the airport have been targeted for years for this reason. Credit cards are a safer option when you are around people you don't know well. Yes, there is credit card fraud but you can protect yourself from that by checking your account regularly.

"The guy was with his boyfriend of one year. If my girlfriend brought her sister or cousin. " The long term relationship is what I assume led the victim. A seasoned attorney from a high crime metro area. To let his guard down. I think we can agree being attacked by two young women is very different than being attacked by two young men. So, yes, I would let my girlfriend in with a female relative of hers I don't know but I would never allow a man I know into my home with a man I don't know if I am alone.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1649229]So what do you think the minimum to kill over would be? It did not say he told anyone how much he had. It only said what they got after they killed him. And don't most guys bring that much when they go on vacation there? And the guy was with his boyfriend of 1 year. You mean to tell me if your girlfriend brought her sister or cousin to your house then you would not let them in?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1649231]Great lesson taught as well as learned! He came with the 900 hoping to get argued down to any thing more than the 350 price. You pulled out the phone, called central, put them speaker and killed his hustle. If the price isn't establish the hustle is in full effect.[/QUOTE]Don't forget to work in the cost of that phonecall and extra time spent in the car. Nothing in the DR is easy, you have to fight to pay normal prices wherever you go.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1649001]Three mistakes to avoid:

1. Having $1,500 cash on hand.

2. Letting anyone know you have $1,500 cash on hand.

3. Allowing yourself to be in a secluded location with someone you don't know (the cousin).

May the victim rest in peace.[/QUOTE]True, I had mistakenly left my safe open at Hotel San francisco de asis one morning and been out all day to find all the money in the safe plus important documents were untouched. I tipped her the day after after asking one of the cleaning ladies who'd cleaned my room the morning before, I gave her a big tip and surprisingly she didn't even say thank you. The morning before I was due to return she cleaned my room again and I asked for her number, (she was cute and had a fat ass) I now have her on facebook but didn't get a chance to sample the goods. Oh how I wish I was back in the DR right now.

I am planning a Summertime trip to the DR, and knowing the basics to avoid. What would be more thing to Avoid to Avoid being Robbed, MURDERED, Killed, an unpleasant time.

You can post it or inbox me.

Thank You!

[QUOTE=Revere;1648931]Santo Domingo. - The National Police on Tuesady said it apprehended two men in connection with the murder of US citizen Van Teasley, whose body was found in his residence in the upscale sector of Gazcue on November 2.

Police spokesman Jacobo Mateo identified the suspects as Luigy Miguel Gonzlez Gmez (Coca Negra), 20, and Jhon Michael Cabrera, 19.

He said Gonzlez had a close relationship with Teasley during around one year and introduced him to Cabrera as his cousin.

Mateo said the two planned Teasley's death and bound him with two tie-wraps bought in a business nearby. "The American was killed to steal 1,500 dollars, clothes, shoes and cell phones. ".

He said Gonzalez had confessed to using a pillow to suffocate Teasley.

USA Media report that Teasley was a prominent attorney hailing from the Washington DC area.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WordUp;1650539]I am planning a Summertime trip to the DR, and knowing the basics to avoid. What would be more thing to Avoid to Avoid being Robbed, MURDERED, Killed, an unpleasant time.[/QUOTE]The murder rate in the DR is 22 per 100,000 inhabitants. This compares with 5 in the US and 1 in the United Kingdom.

If avoiding being murdered is a priority for you, I would holiday in Monaco or Liechtenstein where the murder rate is almost zero.

It is relatively easy to avoid being robbed in the DR. Simply avoid all contact with Dominicans or Haitians.

Has anyone took the express from Punta Cana to Santo Domingo? I'm staying in Punta Cana, but I would like to take a visit to Santo for a day. Looking for a nice hotel for a night that I can pick up some nice women to have fun!

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1650606]The murder rate in the DR is 22 per 100,000 inhabitants. This compares with 5 in the US and 1 in the United Kingdom.

If avoiding being murdered is a priority for you, I would holiday in Monaco or Liechtenstein where the murder rate is almost zero.

It is relatively easy to avoid being robbed in the DR. Simply avoid all contact with Dominicans or Haitians.[/QUOTE]Jajaja! God bless the Queen and her subjects!!

[QUOTE=TravelingGeno;1650632]Has anyone took the express from Punta Cana to Santo Domingo? I'm staying in Punta Cana, but I would like to take a visit to Santo for a day. Looking for a nice hotel for a night that I can pick up some nice women to have fun![/QUOTE]There is Expreso Bavado. I took it last week to Santo Domingo and will be taking it back to Punta Cana airport this coming week. The trip to SD takes about 3 hours and it is pretty comfortable with TV and bathroom. You can google to get the address of the station in Punta Cana. The fare is 400 pesos, the bus leaves every two hours starting at 9 am.

Help guys need tonight.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1651288]Help guys need tonight.[/QUOTE]There are tons of them in San Ysidro.

Landed just before 4 pm. Chatted up guy in seat next to me in hopes that we could split a cab. Cab ride from airport can be BUDGET BUSTER. Turns out my man was going to boca chica and I was out of luck. So I thought. Everybody pay attention valuable information coming. First my girl is in the bed with just bra and panties being very sweet as I write, I shared with her what Iam doing. There are two banks on the first floor that can change your money. Bank Reserve and Popular bank. It was after 4 Popular was closed and Reserve was packed. I was told by a guard to go upstairs to change my money. Reserve has a small booth upstairs to change money. I was second in line and got almost 44 pesos. All good! While waiting I ask the guy behind me where I could get transportation to SD. The mythical publico to Santo Domingo that is as illusive as a unicorn. BINGO! He says follow me. I walk about 60 feet on the second floor to a set of doors and there it is. A 20 year old gua gua loading for SD. Unicorn spotted. When the driver saw I was a gringo he tripled my rate. Instead of 60 pesos I paid 140 pesos. What an outrage. I let him know I knew he was sticking it to me and paid with a huge smile on my face.

In the gua gua I was treated very well by everyone including a 7 month old baby girl who played with me most of the trip. The mother breast FED THE LITTLE GIRL AND IT WAS a beautiful thing to witness. Back on point the qua gua dropped me off some where in Santo Domingo but a guy with a car was waiting to grab my bag and take me to El conde where I hoped to get a room at the Reina Isabella. The driver seeing I am gringo charges me 200 pesos for the trip. I am loving life. Instead of paying 1500 pesos $ 35 I paid $ 5.

I get to the Hotel and a cute young thing is working the desk. I get a room with King bed no window and because I am planning to have an over night guest $38 total. I advised the French Owner / manager that I love the place (great impression made) Pardon the pone but do not sleep on this Hotel it is an awesome bargain.

It is after 5 and my girl is due around 6. I have not shaved and my hair is a mess. It was getting dark and I figured everything was shutting down. I run into a barber I have known over 3 years. I tell him I am pressed for time and only want a shave. He gives the shave, starts trimming the hair and eyebrows. Next thing I know I am getting a full facial (which I enjoyed) I did this dance once before and had a guy locked up by the tourist police. This guy who I have been acquainted with 3 years tries to pull the BS on me. He presents me a written bill for 3000 pesos. He did do a decent job with the services he provided that I did not ask for unlike the first time when I got a fucked hair cut as well. I say give me the bill because I am getting your ass locked the fuck up. He changed his tune and his voice got five octaves higher. I paid him 500 pesos and rolled out with a decent cut, an excellent shave and a good facial. The look on his face when I told him I was going to the police was priceless.

My girl shows up at about 630 and it is dark. She worked earlier and had not eaten. We go to a chinesse chicken place that has the best fried chicken I have ever eaten. Coming from a 60 year old black man that is saying something, We were both hungry and were stuffed with 200 pesos of their products. Fries were also good.

I know she has had a tough day so I keep it simple. Back to the room for and hour and off to a Cabana. The Cabana generally sucked. Jacuzzi and shower neither worked properly which was a downer. Last thing I bought before leaving was an aromatic bubble bath. Undaunted I had two great sessions. The second prompted by a oil massage with her on her stomach getting her pussy rubbed. Nothing like being with someone who likes fucking you. We ended the night drinking coffee at GRands at about 11;30. It was a great way to start my trip.

I have another very hot newbie who wants to hookup Tuesday but I am going to pass. I do not want to play games. I going to Sosua and do relaxed sport fucking. Since I will have three sessions under my belt by the time I get there I should have some control. Sosua can make you loose your mind if you are just hitting the ground.

Wrapping up gents the other sister (LOL) is in bed sleep bra and thong only. Three things to note if going to SD. There is a publico that is 10 time cheaper then cab service, Reserve bank 2nd floor money exchange and maybe number one Riena Ysabela Hotel under $40 for good hotel with a great location.

You can only write a report this long when you have fired both barrels and are satisfied. Lil old but very chilled.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1651294]There are tons of them in San Ysidro.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1651496]
Wrapping up gents the other sister (LOL) is in bed sleep bra and thong only. Three things to note if going to SD. There is a publico that is 10 time cheaper then cab service, Reserve bank 2nd floor money exchange and maybe number one Riena Ysabela Hotel under $40 for good hotel with a great location.

You can only write a report this long when you have fired both barrels and are satisfied. Lil old but very chilled.[/QUOTE]Excellent find of the unicorn, sir. My trip before last, I paced the 2nd level outside for half an hour looking for that guagua and no luck. Perhaps that's because I landed on a Saturday.

I always get my money changed at the booth upstairs, it's right next to the Claro store where I get my SIM card. There's also a Western Union on the 2nd floor that gives good rates.

I'm in Orlando in early February and am thinking about a trip south. I've a couple hundred words of Spanish tops and never been south of Mexico. What do you guys think is the best place to go? I kinda enjoy talking with street workers, don't like discos, am OK with MP's.

Direct flights from Orlando go to Santo Domingo (DR), Bogota, San Jose (CR), Guadalajara and Mexico City so I suppose that's the shortlist.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1651294]There are tons of them in San Ysidro.[/QUOTE]A bit late to the punch but a really nice one is on george Washington (I think) the road parallel to the beach towards 30 de mayo. Past avis by a bit, you'll most likely see one or two streetwalkers at the junction. It has bright red neon sign. I remember it was 800 for 4 hours. But it had jacuzzi, internet (to stream your favourite music, or play porn), very clean, ac was amazingly rapido. Super nice.

This hotel is located on El Conde about 100 m west of Jumbo. This is their website: [URL]http://www.hotelboutiquecasaconde.com/index.php/en/home-4[/URL].

I generally stay at hotels in the $60 range when I go to SD, but am looking to save a few bucks on my next trip. I believe this hotel may be relatively new. I've read a few reviews online, and apparently hot water when the sun goes down is a real issue as that they use solar heat. As well, they have no elevator which is reported as annoying given this hotel's distances to rooms from lobby. The website also does not list in-room safes as a room feature.

Can anyone report on:

WiFi in rooms vs lobby only.

AC working well or not.

Girl-friendliness.

Security boxes at lobby if no in-room safes.

Any scamming or security issues.

This is my new favorite hotel $35 a night. It is right on El Conde 1 block from Grands. Has everything you want.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;1653349]This hotel is located on El Conde about 100 m west of Jumbo. This is their website: [URL]http://www.hotelboutiquecasaconde.com/index.php/en/home-4[/URL].

I generally stay at hotels in the $60 range when I go to SD, but am looking to save a few bucks on my next trip. I believe this hotel may be relatively new. I've read a few reviews online, and apparently hot water when the sun goes down is a real issue as that they use solar heat. As well, they have no elevator which is reported as annoying given this hotel's distances to rooms from lobby. The website also does not list in-room safes as a room feature.

Can anyone report on:

WiFi in rooms vs lobby only.

AC working well or not.

Girl-friendliness.

Security boxes at lobby if no in-room safes.

Any scamming or security issues.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1653556]This is my new favorite hotel $35 a night. It is right on El Conde 1 block from Grands. Has everything you want.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I have read reports on the Reina Ysabel hotel right which even included room rec's for WiFi, etc. The Reina Ysabel is probably my second choice. The only thing that concerns me is the furniture looks a little dated. Similar to that of the Roma1 Hotel.

I hope some of you can chime in on The Casa Conde Boutique Hotel.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;1653563]Thanks, I have read reports on the Reina Ysabel hotel right which even included room rec's for WiFi, etc. The Reina Ysabel is probably my second choice. The only thing that concerns me is the furniture looks a little dated. Similar to that of the Roma1 Hotel.

I hope some of you can chime in on The Casa Conde Boutique Hotel.[/QUOTE]I cannot comment on the specifics but I discovered Casa Conde this past July. It is practically opposite Pacos / Grands. An expensive and useless restaurant but popular for its location. The entry of the hotel is a locked door at the street level and you have to use the buzzer to ask them to open. I saw someone coming out and asked about it, I. E. , if he was pleased with the place. He said he was and so I went in to check the place out. The layout is unlike a hotel (it is a historical building -converted to a hotel so no surprise) but it is two / three storied only so it cannot be hard. The rooms looked nice and clean but the cheaper one did not have windows which would not do for me. I cannot imagine they have any issue about your guests even though I did not ask about it. The woman showing me the place was nice and friendly. She is in a room tucked away so the guests may not have to come through her line of sight. If I recall correctly. Overall, the price is good and location superb but to get something I like, the lowest price may be just a dangler to up-sell a better appointed room. I would try the place next time. And if wifi does not work in the room, the lobby or Pacos in front is always an option.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1653723]I cannot comment on the specifics but I discovered Casa Conde this past July. It is practically opposite Pacos / Grands. An expensive and useless restaurant but popular for its location. The entry of the hotel is a locked door at the street level and you have to use the buzzer to ask them to open. I saw someone coming out and asked about it, I. E. , if he was pleased with the place. He said he was and so I went in to check the place out. The layout is unlike a hotel (it is a historical building -converted to a hotel so no surprise) but it is two / three storied only so it cannot be hard. The rooms looked nice and clean but the cheaper one did not have windows which would not do for me. I cannot imagine they have any issue about your guests even though I did not ask about it. The woman showing me the place was nice and friendly. She is in a room tucked away so the guests may not have to come through her line of sight. If I recall correctly. Overall, the price is good and location superb but to get something I like, the lowest price may be just a dangler to up-sell a better appointed room. I would try the place next time. And if wifi does not work in the room, the lobby or Pacos in front is always an option.[/QUOTE]Good info on the place. I will certainly be not staying in the smaller room now. Its interesting that this hotel is directly across from Grands, or at "La Puerta". Google showed this location as well, but the Hotel Casa Conde's own website shows a location between 19 de Marzo & Duarte.

I have just been confirmed for a suite for 4 nights in February. The rate is $47.50/ nt which already includes a 5% discount for paying cash. The lower rates currently listed on the website are off-season rates per the hotel. So, $12.50 less than the Roma11. I will wait for more reports hopefully.

A lot of guys use the two Roma hotels near Duarte and Conde. I haven't seen much talk about them here lately but they seemed to be popular.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1653556]This is my new favorite hotel $35 a night. It is right on El Conde 1 block from Grands. Has everything you want.[/QUOTE]

The Romas are are nicely furnished but not well maintained. The staff is so so, The cost $60.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1653815]A lot of guys use the two Roma hotels near Duarte and Conde. I haven't seen much talk about them here lately but they seemed to be popular.[/QUOTE]

I've only ever stayed at the riazor and san francisco de asis. Can anyone recommend GF hotels or aparthotels that are 3* or 4* in santo domingo? Want to pay the full amount for my stay online so I travel with less cash. The ones I'm used to say book now pay at hotel which is useless as it means taking extra cash or card.

Girls are desperate to make money for Christmas. Last night I was at GBP and had a lovely 19 y o for 1 k. Perfect breasts great pussy. I will see her again on Thursday, I left feeling quite satisfied. This time of year is great to be a monger in DR.

FYI her name is Vanessa. Getting hard just writing about her.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1655029]Girls are desperate to make money for Christmas. Last night I was at GBP and had a lovely 19 y o for 1 k. Perfect breasts great pussy. I will see her again on Thursday, I left feeling quite satisfied. This time of year is great to be a monger in DR.

FYI her name is Vanessa. Getting hard just writing about her.[/QUOTE]What's GBP again? I plan to head to SD in a month.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1647423]

Barely after she left another girl from Badoo sent me a whatsapp message that she arrived from Bani. I called Ariel and we went for her. She was in an area called La Pintura near Plaza de la Bandera. Maria is a small pretty 20 years old girl. She has long natural black hair with a hot body. She also has a baby. [/QUOTE]I tried to find that chick on Badoo but no luck. Maybe some different name? Any advice?

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1655057]What's GBP again? I plan to head to SD in a month.[/QUOTE]On site brothel, pretty seedy but I like it. 1 k for 1 girl 1. 5 for 2. Right now the talent seems to be up due to the holidays coming close. I am going to head there today.

If anyone is there if you see a big guys in a yellow t shirt that's me.

I don't usually hang out, get in, do my business and get out.

[QUOTE=Cagep1967;1656148]On site brothel, pretty seedy but I like it. 1 k for 1 girl 1. 5 for 2. Right now the talent seems to be up due to the holidays coming close. I am going to head there today.

If anyone is there if you see a big guys in a yellow t shirt that's me.

I don't usually hang out, get in, do my business and get out.[/QUOTE]Yes, actually I went once myself but forgot the name. Had two girls for 1. 5 k, same I just walked in weren't any seats left at the bar / lounge area I picked two girls and headed straight to one of the tiny rooms. I think the women weren't used to seeing anyone be so decisive. Anyway not a bad session if I am honest.

I am headed back to Santo domingo mid January for a month. I need everyone's help in picking a good hotel for a month long stay. Obviously a place that is guest friendly with no chica fee and ideally large ish so it doesn't feel claustrophobic and ideally with a kitchenette. Does that exist anywhere in santo domingo. I must book it through [URL]expedia.com[/URL] and the apartments I see listed on expedia look horrible and have even worse reviews.

can anyone recommend Hotel Plaza del Sol in CALLE JOSE CONTRERAS NO. 25A Zona Universitaria? price seems good

Homeaway has apartments at decent prices all over the city. Plus you can negotiate with the owner for a 1 month deal at a better price.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1656172]Yes, actually I went once myself but forgot the name. Had two girls for 1. 5 k, same I just walked in weren't any seats left at the bar / lounge area I picked two girls and headed straight to one of the tiny rooms. I think the women weren't used to seeing anyone be so decisive. Anyway not a bad session if I am honest.

I am headed back to Santo domingo mid January for a month. I need everyone's help in picking a good hotel for a month long stay. Obviously a place that is guest friendly with no chica fee and ideally large ish so it doesn't feel claustrophobic and ideally with a kitchenette. Does that exist anywhere in santo domingo. I must book it through [URL]expedia.com[/URL] and the apartments I see listed on expedia look horrible and have even worse reviews.

can anyone recommend Hotel Plaza del Sol in CALLE JOSE CONTRERAS NO. 25A Zona Universitaria? price seems good[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1656192]Homeaway has apartments at decent prices all over the city. Plus you can negotiate with the owner for a 1 month deal at a better price.[/QUOTE]Thanks mate, but it has to be booked from expedia otherwise I'd book an apartment from homeaway or aibnb. Can anyone recommend something listed on that website please, also any info on plaza del sol?

Boys,

I am amazed, surprised and delighted with the great information that you provide in this forum. You are a Bible for a beginner DR monger. I am reading posts on Sosua and Santo Domingo and I'm going to spend a month there. From December 28 until January 25. The first week in Santo Domingo, and then way to Sosua, indefinitely. It will be my first time in DR.

The monger map, which I think is a creation of Boricua, is simply excellent.

I'm from Argentina, 40 years, of course I speak Spanish as their native language, so I will try by all means get semi pros or regular street girls, discos, bars, etc. If all else fails, I have all the information on the forum about where to go for water in a dry night. I have some experience mongering on Argentina, Brazil, Cuba, Mexico and Colombia. I think I'll be doing ok on DR.

I will book the first 3 days in Hostal San Francisco de Asis, for pricing, but especially for its proximity to the Jaragua Casino, Pure Disco, Sky High, Latin Dolls, Girls House, and the Malecon. You see, guys? I have a great plan for the first week of my trip thanks to you.

To all beginners like me: Invest the time to read the hundreds of postings about DR before asking, and thank all the generous colleagues. I promise to return the favor with brief daily postings with new data.

One question: I will spend New Year in Santo Domingo. Do you know any big party to spend that night? If other cat hunters are alone that night in SD maybe we can arrange something. Maybe we can be the party, trashing upside down the San Antonio de Asis Hostal. Just kidding. Or maybe not.

Good trips for all of you.

There is usually a big free concert and party on the Malecon near the obelisk New Year's Eve. I think they had it nearer to Guibia (Maximo Gomez & Malecon) last year but I might be confusing that with the 27 de febrero parade. You will have a nice time.

[QUOTE=Catchaser;1656557]Boys,

I am amazed, surprised and delighted with the great information that you provide in this forum. You are a Bible for a beginner DR monger. I am reading posts on Sosua and Santo Domingo and I'm going to spend a month there. From December 28 until January 25. The first week in Santo Domingo, and then way to Sosua, indefinitely. It will be my first time in DR.

The monger map, which I think is a creation of Boricua, is simply excellent.

I'm from Argentina, 40 years, of course I speak Spanish as their native language, so I will try by all means get semi pros or regular street girls, discos, bars, etc. If all else fails, I have all the information on the forum about where to go for water in a dry night. I have some experience mongering on Argentina, Brazil, Cuba, Mexico and Colombia. I think I'll be doing ok on DR..[/QUOTE]

A new place opened in Venezuela Avenue in the corner with Costa Rica Street: Pink Bar Lounge. The owner is the one and only, former GBP and Casa Teresa girl Waleska. It opens everyday from 3:30 pm to 11:00 pm. It is 5 blocks north of La Barrica.

What everyone wants to know:

Are there rooms on site or do you have to go to a cabana?

What is the tarifa. One girl, two girl, salida?

How much does a beer cost?

Boricua you the man!

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1658643]A new place opened in Venezuela Avenue in the corner with Costa Rica Street: Pink Bar Lounge. The owner is the one and only, former GBP and Casa Teresa girl Waleska. It opens everyday from 3:30 pm to 11:00 pm. It is 5 blocks north of La Barrica.[/QUOTE]

Never mind, got it straight from Waleska:

1,500 pesos el servicio.

Si hay habitaciones / rooms on site.

Second floor of Plaza Pacheco, Venezuela con Costa Rica.

More news to come of course.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1658643]A new place opened in Venezuela Avenue in the corner with Costa Rica Street: Pink Bar Lounge. The owner is the one and only, former GBP and Casa Teresa girl Waleska. It opens everyday from 3:30 pm to 11:00 pm. It is 5 blocks north of La Barrica.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1658940]Never mind, got it straight from Waleska:

1,500 pesos el servicio.

Si hay habitaciones / rooms on site.

Second floor of Plaza Pacheco, Venezuela con Costa Rica.

More news to come of course.[/QUOTE]There is a 2 x1 special for the season, I hope is for the girls not for the drinks. Thanks for the info.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1658940]Never mind, got it straight from Waleska:

1,500 pesos el servicio.

Si hay habitaciones / rooms on site.

Second floor of Plaza Pacheco, Venezuela con Costa Rica.

More news to come of course.[/QUOTE]2500 for salida, I will check it out in Jan. Or Feb., or is someone else going to check it out first and report back?

anyone with more recommendations for hotels in sto domingo for a month stay, with a kitchinette plus inroom safe. thanks

[QUOTE=Turgid;1627770]I stayed at the hotel Plaza del Sol next to the Universidad (within walking to GBP) .[/QUOTE]I see on expedia that there are three types of rooms available, standard, exec and junior suites is it worth spending a little more of a suite? Also did you ever bring a chica to the hotel in your 3 week trip? Is it chica friendly? Was the a / see ok. Good and bad points of the hotel? I want to make a good choice as I'll be in SD for a few weeks. Thanks.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1659270]I see on expedia that there are three types of rooms available, standard, exec and junior suites is it worth spending a little more of a suite? Also did you ever bring a chica to the hotel in your 3 week trip? Is it chica friendly? Was the a / see ok. Good and bad points of the hotel? I want to make a good choice as I'll be in SD for a few weeks. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I never enquired if the hotel is chica friendly and I suspect not. I have seen family with children there although that does not necessarily mean it is not chica friendly. Also during my stays I never saw a guy walk in with chica in tow if you know what I mean, my spidy sense will detect that if I saw it. Plaza Del Sol was very good for my purposes. I have stayed there three times the most recent being just days ago for a few weeks. I basically do the casas with on site rooms and not the street chicas. I have basically done all the chicas at GBP and most at Casa Teresa with a sprinkling from other casas. I like Plaza Del Sol, in my first stay they gave me a room with lots of street noise but on my two following stays they gave me fairly quiet rooms. If you decide to stay here ask for a quiet room in advance. I used only the standard rooms, three different rooms. I never saw the larger rooms, the standard room was very good for my purposes (just to sleep). The a / see was very good. The only drawback of the room is the bathroom which is very small but some standard room baths are better than others. If you have stayed in English or European hotels you should have no problem with the bathroom. In my second stay the wifi was horrible but it was much better in my first and third stays especially my last stay. There is a kitchenette with fridge and stove but I hardly used it as La Sirena is five minutes walk away and there is a good food court which can get very crowded though with University students. I also used other restaurants in other parts of SDO. There is also a Nacional supermercado fifteen minutes walk away on Maximo Gomez. You can hire a publico from corner of Jose Contreras and Almer Mater to take you anywhere in the city (including El Conde and street walker central) for 200 pesos. Ten minutes walk from Plaza Del Sol on Maximo Gomez is the Courtyard by Marriot which is more expensive but I understand is chica friendly. On a final note late at night from around 10.00 pm / midnight the guy on duty is a very cool guy who perhaps could be persuaded to look the other way if you turn up with a chica. I chatted with him a couple times and he is cool. Unfortunately I never asked him if the hotel is chica friendly. The good points for me is that it is good value for money and easy access to all points of city via publico as aforesaid. It is ok if you don't mind roughing it a little. The only bad point for me is the uncomfortable bathroom which you can read more of on tripadvisor. BTW the rest of the room is quite spacious for the price.

Thanks turgid, I booked a junior suite for a month after calling the hotel, I'm pretty sure it is chica friendly well at least that's what I understood, line was awful. Thanks for the info, I will read more of your past posts to see if you have more info on what can be found around the hotel. Don't think I know the are if I'm honest. If anyone is around between mid Jan. And mid Feb., pm me.

[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1660156]Thanks turgid, I booked a junior suite for a month after calling the hotel, I'm pretty sure it is chica friendly well at least that's what I understood, line was awful. Thanks for the info, I will read more of your past posts to see if you have more info on what can be found around the hotel. Don't think I know the are if I'm honest. If anyone is around between mid Jan. And mid Feb., pm me.[/QUOTE]If this hotel is chica friendly then my spidy sense is awry. Upon substantiating that it is please let us know. I don't think I gave much info about the vicinity of the hotel because I did nothing there other than eat at La Sirena and takepublico to my casa destinations. Lots of university students around, no putas. GBP is about a 15 to 20 minute walk.

Just arrived yesterday to SD. Slow Monday. The de SW I saw were awful. Fat, ugly, old, or skinny with that ex-pregnant belly pooping out.

Tried a few bars on ZC with no luck. Bio, Sabina bar, Café de Toi (closed). Nothing there. I was just trying to get a semipro with my native Spanish. But screw that. I ended up horny and alone with my thoughts. Caught a stunner on my way back to the hotel (I'm staying at San Francisco de Asís Hostal). Beautiful young girl walking out from one of the joints on Pasteur street. Big tits, skinny, big ass. But 4000 pesos was just to much. Tried to negotiate but 3500 was her lowest. Thanks but no.

Heading to Boca Chica today! If nothing happens there, I'll be stopping at GBP on my way back. I just want to fuck something nice and young.

Ill be reporting useful news. Hope to get something good to share today.

[QUOTE=Catchaser;1662744]Just arrived yesterday to SD. Slow Monday. The de SW I saw were awful. Fat, ugly, old, or skinny with that ex-pregnant belly pooping out.
[/QUOTE]Yep that sounds like SD The last time I was there hunting. Far as streetwalkers goes I think the best of them have left town to Sosua. I think for most of the sexy ones left there it's more respectable and financial rewarding to work in a scrip club. 3500 pesos get real Ty for sticking to your guns.

Went to BC yesterday, there went my first pop. Nice skinny Haitian, 24 yo. Slim body, but saggy tits. That was a surprise, oh well. We use a Italian restaurant / cheap motel place on Duarte street that was good enough. Agreed with the girl one hour 1500 pesos and 800 for motel. Of course, after the first pop, she wanted to fly. Silly me. Never negotiate time but pops. Bad habits from home. In Argentina, one hour is one hour of sex, at least most of the times.

Not so many SW on BC. Lots of families enjoying the sun.

The girls offering massages were out of the question ugly. Perfect day for the beach, BC is beautiful despite the constant hustling.

Great staying so far at San Francisco de Asis hostal. Villar hermanos restaurante just one block away is a plus. Those 2 were recommendations I got from here so thanks guys.

They have today a big party on the street. They'll close the malecon, roast pork and turkey, alcohol on the street, got to be good.

I'll try to get a freebie pouring alcohol and some dancing over a hot tonight. Or throwing some pesos ir the dancing fails. Something will happen.

[QUOTE=Catchaser;1663103]Went to BC yesterday, there went my first pop. Nice skinny Haitian, 24 yo. Slim body, but saggy tits. That was a surprise [/QUOTE]Most women in the DR do not get enough nutrition.

Check out the Asador del Palenque for good food near your hotel. It's on the opposite side of Independencia from Villar Hermanos, two or three cross streets away heading toward the Jaragua, past hotel Riazor and Manolos restaurant. The Jaragua's' back wall faces it. Some of the old timers on here will know the place as the former location of Lapsus / Tabu. It's hard to miss because of the lighted sign right on the road and the people sitting at tables. Good prices for food and drinks, much better than Manolo's. Fresh meat and seafood of every kind is charcoal grilled to order.

[QUOTE=Catchaser;1663103]Went to BC yesterday, there went my first pop. Nice skinny Haitian, 24 yo. Slim body, but saggy tits. That was a surprise, oh well. We use a Italian restaurant / cheap motel place on Duarte street that was good enough. Agreed with the girl one hour 1500 pesos and 800 for motel. Of course, after the first pop, she wanted to fly. Silly me. Never negotiate time but pops. Bad habits from home. In Argentina, one hour is one hour of sex, at least most of the times.

Not so many SW on BC. Lots of families enjoying the sun.

The girls offering massages were out of the question ugly. Perfect day for the beach, BC is beautiful despite the constant hustling.

Great staying so far at San Francisco de Asis hostal. Villar hermanos restaurante just one block away is a plus. Those 2 were recommendations I got from here so thanks guys.[/QUOTE]

I took a flight on Thursday January first to Santo Domingo. My plan was to take a bus and go straight to Puerto Plata. A woman I was chatting on Skype long time insisted to meet me at airport. I decided to meet her at airport and decide on our way to Santo Domingo. It was New Year and everything was closed I could not exchange any money. Then I realized that I don't have any minutes on my phone and claro was also closed. Luckily I found her and took taxi. She was an average woman, a little big with Dominican standards and had big boobs. I am a boobs man and decided to take a chance and stay in a hotel in Santo Domingo. She said she cannot stay overnight. I said OK. We went to Mystik. We spend a few hours and I wanted to take care of business. She said that she can no do it we just met she needs more time. This is the short coming of dealing with none or semi pros, But I only choose none or semi pros and deal with this once in a while. I was able to convince her after 1 hour of discussion that at least we should fool around a little bit. She agreed. It was good but could be better. We went out for dinner. There was only one place open and only two expensive items on the menu. At this point I was happy to find a place to eat. We went back to hotel and I gave her the perfume she asked for, she was happy like a little kid. I gave her money for a taxi to go home and come back to hotel tomorrow. She wanted to come to Puerto Plata with me and stay a few days. I could not decide if it was a good idea. I told her we meet tomorrow and we decide. I was thinking to stay one more day and finish the job. Next day I wanted to call her my phone did not work. Luckily I had a backup phone and changed the sim card and it worked. I decided to take the bus and maybe meet her again on my way back home. I took Caribe bus before and wanted to try metro this time. It was better choice faster and I was in Puerto Plata after 3 ½ hours. Only problem with metro they don't give you a ticket for your suite case and I took a seat next to window to watch it all the time even all my valuables were with me. I called a furnished apartment place recommended for 1 bedroom. I was told that he had only a studio available right now. I said OK. I did not want to stay in hotel Lomar this time. Studio is very small cheap but no AC. I told the owner that I will stay here but I want to move to 1 bedroom apartment as soon as one available. I will move to 1 bedroom next week. This is my first night. I would not recommend studio and tell my opinion later for 1 bedroom apartment after I spend the night there. I made an arrangement with a lady from tagged to meet tomorrow night and let's see how thinks will work out.

[QUOTE=Catchaser;1662744]Just arrived yesterday to SD. Slow Monday. The de SW I saw were awful. Fat, ugly, old, or skinny with that ex-pregnant belly pooping out.

Tried a few bars on ZC with no luck. Bio, Sabina bar, Caf de Toi (closed). Nothing there. I was just trying to get a semipro with my native Spanish. But screw that. I ended up horny and alone with my thoughts. Caught a stunner on my way back to the hotel (I'm staying at San Francisco de Ass Hostal). Beautiful young girl walking out from one of the joints on Pasteur street. Big tits, skinny, big ass. But 4000 pesos was just to much. Tried to negotiate but 3500 was her lowest. Thanks but no.

Heading to Boca Chica today! If nothing happens there, I'll be stopping at GBP on my way back. I just want to fuck something nice and young.

Ill be reporting useful news. Hope to get something good to share today.[/QUOTE]3500 , was that all nighter? For a stunner atletic girl with boobs & ass, that is a good price.

Looking att dominicanas online they look for marriage, but are dressed up like Pros and really showing off.

Yes, it's one extreme, Buenos Aires compared to DR or Colombia.

Hey man, I lived at paraguay / Medrano 2005-06 and not to far away from a club in palermo that maradona himself used to visit. But ordinary portena girlfriend. That was difficult.

With all due respect, in my humble opinion 3500 pesos is not a good price for a chica working the street. You may have to pay that if you take her out of a working girl bar because you are a paying a salida. Most chicas on their own, with no overhead would be happy with 2000. If she's a have to have her 2500 but no more.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1665505]3500 , was that all nighter? For a stunner atletic girl with boobs & ass, that is a good price.

Looking att dominicanas online they look for marriage, but are dressed up like Pros and really showing off.

Yes, it's one extreme, Buenos Aires compared to DR or Colombia.

Hey man, I lived at paraguay / Medrano 2005-06 and not to far away from a club in palermo that maradona himself used to visit. But ordinary portena girlfriend. That was difficult.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1665505]3500 , was that all nighter? For a stunner atletic girl with boobs & ass, that is a good price.

[/QUOTE]You should be banned as a bad influence on newbies.

[QUOTE=Ozzie1451;1664285]I took a flight on Thursday January first to Santo Domingo. My plan was to take a bus and go straight to Puerto Plata. A woman I was chatting on Skype long time insisted to meet me at airport. I decided to meet her at airport and decide on our way to Santo Domingo. It was New Year and everything was closed I could not exchange any money. Then I realized that I don't have any minutes on my phone and claro was also closed. Luckily I found her and took taxi. She was an average woman, a little big with Dominican standards and had big boobs. I am a boobs man and decided to take a chance and stay in a hotel in Santo Domingo. She said she cannot stay overnight. I said OK. We went to Mystik. We spend a few hours and I wanted to take care of business. She said that she can no do it we just met she needs more time. This is the short coming of dealing with none or semi pros, But I only choose none or semi pros and deal with this once in a while. I was able to convince her after 1 hour of discussion that at least we should fool around a little bit. She agreed. It was good but could be better. We went out for dinner. There was only one place open and only two expensive items on the menu. At this point I was happy to find a place to eat. We went back to hotel and I gave her the perfume she asked for, she was happy like a little kid. I gave her money for a taxi to go home and come back to hotel tomorrow. She wanted to come to Puerto Plata with me and stay a few days. I could not decide if it was a good idea. I told her we meet tomorrow and we decide.[/QUOTE]Why would you even consider taking a female with you to PP? Never mind an average looking female.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1666252]Why would you even consider taking a female with you to PP? Never mind an average looking female.[/QUOTE]Who knows what I thought at the moment, average looking female may look attractive at 63, a few months without sex in USA, perky good size boobs, good sex guarantee (rather than hit or miss)!!

[QUOTE=Ozzie1451;1666457]Who knows what I thought at the moment, average looking female may look attractive at 63, a few months without sex in USA, perky good size boobs, good sex guarantee (rather than hit or miss)!![/QUOTE]With all due respect, I would any day take an average female who is enthusiastic and active in bed than a "pretty woman" who might be a prima donna. Being a boob man, perky breasts are an additional attraction. Regarding inviting others to PP, it is a smart thing too. As you said, it is no longer a hit or miss thing and food and lodging in a small place like PP is a lot better and cheaper. Only thing is I would invite a series of females so as not to get bored. LOL.

[QUOTE=JJ341;1665590]With all due respect, in my humble opinion 3500 pesos is not a good price for a chica working the street. You may have to pay that if you take her out of a working girl bar because you are a paying a salida. Most chicas on their own, with no overhead would be happy with 2000. If she's a have to have her 2500 but no more.

.[/QUOTE]Good News! 2500 DOP, that's like $US56, good price. If she stays like for a few hour it's OK, sleeping over. How about it, I wake up wallet-less?

Anyway, for a normal guy from 1st world $U56 is to be compared with $US200-400 depending where you live and BBBJ seldom is an option, doesn't have it on the menu.

So far so good. Lock in all valuables and then have relaxed sex! Or, no? In Medellin "Bello" girls can start arguing about prices while performing BBBJ, which destroys the whole experience. It shoud be more relaxed to bring a hottie home hotel or apartment, but actually, in retrospect, it has been much better to go to casas. There they work under contract and the boss can fire her at once, while coming to your home the same girl turns into a notorious thief and probably want to argue just to get kicked out, relieving her from doing her part of the deal. You literaly pay her to leave. Sort of giving back at the "rich" foreigner, showing that "you don't own me".

Well, even a Old Pirate can be afraid of this.

But I understand, one have to be prepared and have go into it in a Ruff Style. "Sweetness is Weakness" in this territories a friend with double background -latin / european- just told me, coming back from The Carribeans.

I love piracy sex and I'm prepared to pay the damage, but one has to learn about the local rules of engagement.

The real money comes from shimming your card while sleeping, your cash, "Rolex", parfume, Hugo Boss etc and if needed giving the police or security guys their share.

These girls are streetsmart and you are probably a white-collar guy in "heaven". Her sweetness is (maybe) always the way to make you relax to forget about your security routines, wherin, as the bard would tell us, lies the rob.

Keeping down the actual losses to the "official" ones, thats the task.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1665685]You should be banned as a bad influence on newbies.[/QUOTE]Yes, but I meant the other way around; If 3500 is overpaying, and 2000 is a fair price for a hottie, spinner, compared to their Spanish-speaking countries.

Then if looks and the typical latin feel-good factor is high, 2000 is really good, but if being set in a boring and cold society, 2000 can't make me happy, not even 1000.

I imagine dominicanas are naturally hot in bed as are Colombianas, where I got GFE from Perfect 10's, while it's impossible to get that even from a Mediocre 5 in BS As!

Peru also is a waste of time and money in the chica department.

It seems like colombianas are so happy with themself being beautiful and appreciated that they are happy and thus give a lot naturally, while, bordome is my first and lasting impression of the Argentine and Peru females.

It seems that dominicanas are about the same mentally as the colombianas, their even hotter sisters in Venezuela and their big hipped cousins in Brazil.

Colombia is very priceworthy, including all factors. But having travelled to that country for 5 years now and excluding DR, re-reading ISG reports, etc etc, it seems that DR at least are on the same level, in total.

A must for an ageing Pirate, still full of teststerone, but also recognizing that finding a retiring destination requires a lot of experimenting, which first led me to Bs As 2003 and from there to Peru to Paraside Colombia.

DR seems well worth investigating.

Venezuela is risky due to the double standard exchange rate, while Brazil's monetary policies are good for the country it's a system that makes (all) services very expensive.

CJS,

The problem is that you want to compare instead of treating each destination as an entity in and of itself. The last thing you want to do is compare what you would pay back home. The first thing you should do is learn local prices.

If you went to a more expensive destination such as London or Tokyo would you tell the girls that instead of giving them the x that they go for, you are only giving them x-100 because back home is x-200? So why go to a cheaper place and pay x+100? Then you later talk about learning the local rules, but refuse to follow them by paying above market prices?

Why do you assume a chick is going to steal from you because you paid less? First of all, your things should be locked up anyway. Second, a thief is a thief no matter how much they are being paid. The biggest thieves were and are white collar millionaires. And who the hell goes mongering with a Rolex?!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1667288]CJS,

The problem is that you want to compare instead of treating each destination as an entity in and of itself. The last thing you want to do is compare what you would pay back home. The first thing you should do is learn local prices.

If you went to a more expensive destination such as London or Tokyo would you tell the girls that instead of giving them the x that they go for, you are only giving them x-100 because back home is x-200? So why go to a cheaper place and pay x+100? Then you later talk about learning the local rules, but refuse to follow them by paying above market prices?

Why do you assume a chick is going to steal from you because you paid less? First of all, your things should be locked up anyway. Second, a thief is a thief no matter how much they are being paid. The biggest thieves were and are white collar millionaires. And who the hell goes mongering with a Rolex?![/QUOTE]Yes, I want to go to DR, because of the low rates. Under one condition; that life is as wonderful as it has been in Colombia, but of course in it's typical dominicanian way. Yes, besides mongering, which is a must, 90% of the time is about learning about the culture and geting some local friends etc.

I read a post here, maybe 1-2 years ago. A guy wrote something like; " they will love you for life".

I understood it like, if you make a serious commitment with a girl in DR, she is due to cultural factors, giving you her love to you, it's for life, even in the cases when the foreginer is maybe 20-30 years older.

The money is important, but mostly as a garantee for escaping poverty, escaping stress.

So, that seems well worth checking out.

I and a few guys, like Jergens7, are though prepared to pay excessive money now and then to get a Perfect 10-experience, like a local famous lingerie model, which can happen in Colombia.

With my workscheduele, being able to stay in DR for 3 months a year as a testoterone-tourist, I can change that into 4-5-6 months, if expenses are down to middleclass dominican.

But does a dominicana accept this, or rises the demands automatically when you are a gringo?

No, I hope, if we talk about a girl with education and her own carrer?

No, I don't want to pay more, I just want to pay for Perfect 10's, since I already have had like 50 girls a year during the last decade and the only thing that interests me is the most attractive one's.

If possible, trying to get a dominicana girlfriend and future wife, but instead of bringing her to Europe, it may be better that I spend my free months in her environment, you know how these girls are; they have their mama, tia, hermana, prima, hermanitas, amigas; cutting her off from that seems to me to cut off a tree from it's roots, it can survive with water, but not live, it's inhuman to bring to our super organized societies, where she anyway always will be seen as a Mail Order Wife-Gold-digger, "not messing with no broke nxxxxrs".

Since I feel that Medellin has passed it's zenit an exotic destination. Simultanously the quailty of life has started to become good for the people there, the whole metropol, not just poblado and laureles are making progress, but also the poor barrios are making strong progress.

Medellin girls, "paisas", has learned too well about "extranjeros" or "gringos". They attack via Internet, without control of any intermediate that charge 50%, clubs, etc. They are wild and their gains are huge in some cases.

Almost all dating sites are dominated by girls that consider an ordinary work "pereza", a boring task that they avoid to accomplish.

I imagine that Santo Domingo has a different flair, a more relaxed and open atmosphere.

How about blending in? In Colombia there a difference in appearance between a nordic and a colombian, but just slighly and people seldom hustle or harrass you, they respect your private sphere.

Is that not so in Santo Domingo? Or is it only at the famous Sosua, Boca chica, Boca Grande etc where "you are the meat", as a guy put in a video-review on youtube: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-M-O0KcypU[/URL].

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1667378]

I imagine that Santo Domingo has a different flair, a more relaxed and open atmosphere.

How about blending in? In Colombia there a difference in appearance between a nordic and a colombian, but just slighly and people seldom hustle or harrass you, they respect your private sphere.
[/QUOTE]Going from Medellin to Santo Domingo you are going to be in for a huge culture shock amigo. If the touts and street hustlers don't scare you off, the non-metered rip-off taxistas wil.

The difference between Paisa culture and Dominican culture is night and day. You may want to spend a week there before you commit to a full three months. You may be in for a bit of a shock, LOL.

I have never been to Santo Domingo, but I have spoken to enough vets and have read enough reports to know that it is no walk in the park.

And yes, as a "Nordic" guy you will stick out like a sore thumb, lol. Just as much as a Nigerian would stick out in Scandinavia.

So your goal is to marry a Dominican working girl and bring her back to the states? Let's do a little math here. Suppose she's been whoring for 2 years and gets 4 johns a week. That's 400 guys she's sucked off in those 2 years. Let's add 50 more blow jobs she's given before she started working. That's 450 cocks. How many loads went in her mouth? I hope you like wide pussies Sparrow because hers is going to be as big as a cow. You need to be aware of a Dominican ***** trait of lying. She'll tell you she loves you to get you to marry her. If that happens and you bring her back to the states she'll skin you alive leaving you broke, busted, downhearted and disgusted. You'll be kicking yourself for not listening to your ISG Brothers. Here's what you do Sparrow. Come to the DR. Take our advice. Have fun. You'll be glad you did.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1667375]Yes, I want to go to DR, because of the low rates. Under one condition; that life is as wonderful as it has been in Colombia, but of course in it's typical dominicanian way. Yes, besides mongering, which is a must, 90% of the time is about learning about the culture and geting some local friends etc.

I read a post here, maybe 1-2 years ago. A guy wrote something like; " they will love you for life".

I understood it like, if you make a serious commitment with a girl in DR, she is due to cultural factors, giving you her love to you, it's for life, even in the cases when the foreginer is maybe 20-30 years older.

The money is important, but mostly as a garantee for escaping poverty, escaping stress.

So, that seems well worth checking out.

I and a few guys, like Jergens7, are though prepared to pay excessive money now and then to get a Perfect 10-experience, like a local famous lingerie model, which can happen in Colombia.

With my workscheduele, being able to stay in DR for 3 months a year as a testoterone-tourist, I can change that into 4-5-6 months, if expenses are down to middleclass dominican.

But does a dominicana accept this, or rises the demands automatically when you are a gringo?

No, I hope, if we talk about a girl with education and her own carrer?

No, I don't want to pay more, I just want to pay for Perfect 10's, since I already have had like 50 girls a year during the last decade and the only thing that interests me is the most attractive one's.

If possible, trying to get a dominicana girlfriend and future wife, but instead of bringing her to Europe, it may be better that I spend my free months in her environment, you know how these girls are; they have their mama, tia, hermana, prima, hermanitas, amigas; cutting her off from that seems to me to cut off a tree from it's roots, it can survive with water, but not live, it's inhuman to bring to our super organized societies, where she anyway always will be seen as a Mail Order Wife-Gold-digger, "not messing with no broke nxxxxrs".[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=JJ341;1667412]So your goal is to marry a Dominican working girl and bring her back to the states? Let's do a little math here. Suppose she's been whoring for 2 years and gets 4 johns a week. That's 400 guys she's sucked off in those 2 years. Let's add 50 more blow jobs she's given before she started working. That's 450 cocks. How many loads went in her mouth? I hope you like wide pussies Sparrow because hers is going to be as big as a cow. You need to be aware of a Dominican ***** trait of lying. She'll tell you she loves you to get you to marry her. If that happens and you bring her back to the states she'll skin you alive leaving you broke, busted, downhearted and disgusted. You'll be kicking yourself for not listening to your ISG Brothers. Here's what you do Sparrow. Come to the DR. Take our advice. Have fun. You'll be glad you did.

.[/QUOTE]Yes. Of course.

You mean all dominicanas are like this, more or less?

There are good girls, but the majority are "available"?

I will take it slow and re realistic for once.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1667393]Going from Medellin to Santo Domingo you are going to be in for a huge culture shock amigo. If the touts and street hustlers don't scare you off, the non-metered rip-off taxistas wil.

The difference between Paisa culture and Dominican culture is night and day. You may want to spend a week there before you commit to a full three months. You may be in for a bit of a shock, LOL.

I have never been to Santo Domingo, but I have spoken to enough vets and have read enough reports to know that it is no walk in the park.

And yes, as a "Nordic" guy you will stick out like a sore thumb, lol. Just as much as a Nigerian would stick out in Scandinavia.[/QUOTE]I thought so, and those black guys are jealous and Dare You! They watch out for their novias.

Seems that I have to turn sails and head back to Colombia, even before landing.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1667467]I thought so, and those black guys are jealous and Dare You! They watch out for their novias.

Seems that I have to turn sails and head back to Colombia, even before landing.[/QUOTE]There are plenty of White forum members here with Dominican girlfriends (some even live in the DR part time), so that is not an issue. The street hustlers, crooked cops, and rip-off taxistas are though.

I didn't mean to scare you off, but it sounded like you had no idea about what you were about to get into going to the DR and comparing it to Colombia. Send Cape1967 a PM and get his take on living in Santo Domingo. He should be able to steer you straight.

You could also look at living in another part of the island like Puerto Plata, Santiago, or Sosua. You will find less problems here (North Coast) than you would in Santo Domingo. Lots of European and American expats are on the North Coast as well (Charles Pooter is from the UK and lives on the North Coast). This is also were the best beaches are (Sosua, Cabarete):

[b]Sosua Beach:[/b]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAffeHrEF5o[/url]

You can stay on the North Coast and take the bus to Santo Domingo one weekend to see if you like it or not. Or if you are feeling adventurous, rent a car and drive around the island. That is the one advantage the DR has over Colombia. There are a lot of members here who have written about their experience driving in the DR. You can ask Mr. Enternational, Tempoecorto, GrownMan, Knowledge, or Cape1967.

If you meet a chica online that live in Santo Domingo (like at Dominican Cupid.com) you can always have her take the bus to come and visit you. Most will be thrilled to get out of the city and visit a beach town like Sosua or Cabarete (Cabarete is maybe 10 mins away from Sosua).

The DR can be fun, just don't expect most people to mind their own business like they do in Colombia. The DR is a major tourist hub and everyone there is trying to make a buck off of the visiting gringo. You just have to know (learn) how to deal with them.

[b]Cuba Dave: Advice on Partying in Sosua, Dominican Republic[/b]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Oh0VW4UZbA[/url]

(D'Latino's is no longer open, but all of the other clubs he mentions are)

[b]CUBADAVE'S OFF SEASON TRAVEL TO SOSUA:[/b]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iVv1TPNqbE[/url]

Fair Warning: The videos are from 2012-2013, so a lot of the places he mentions are not even open anymore. But the general info is still the same.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1667467]I thought so, and those black guys are jealous and Dare You! They watch out for their novias.

Seems that I have to turn sails and head back to Colombia, even before landing.[/QUOTE]Do you want to limit your DR experience just to the posts here? Why don't you bite the bullet and make the trip without any planning as I did. I have been here a few times. I came to santo domingo first time, I did not like it at all and took the bus to puerto plata right away. I was able to do it because I have read the posts and used the information. You may like it or hate it in DR. But you will never know if you don't experience it yourself.

[QUOTE=JJ341;1667412]So your goal is to marry a Dominican working girl and bring her back to the states? Let's do a little math here. Suppose she's been whoring for 2 years and gets 4 johns a week. That's 400 guys she's sucked off in those 2 years. Let's add 50 more blow jobs she's given before she started working. That's 450 cocks. How many loads went in her mouth? I hope you like wide pussies Sparrow because hers is going to be as big as a cow. You need to be aware of a Dominican ***** trait of lying. She'll tell you she loves you to get you to marry her. If that happens and you bring her back to the states she'll skin you alive leaving you broke, busted, downhearted and disgusted. You'll be kicking yourself for not listening to your ISG Brothers. Here's what you do Sparrow. Come to the DR. Take our advice. Have fun. You'll be glad you did.

.[/QUOTE]Totally agree; why bring them to the US, where they become "bitchinized".

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1667375]Yes, I want to go to DR, because of the low rates. Under one condition; that life is as wonderful as it has been in Colombia, but of course in it's typical dominicanian way. Yes, besides mongering, which is a must, 90% of the time is about learning about the culture and geting some local friends etc.

I read a post here, maybe 1-2 years ago. A guy wrote something like; " they will love you for life".

I understood it like, if you make a serious commitment with a girl in DR, she is due to cultural factors, giving you her love to you, it's for life, even in the cases when the foreginer is maybe 20-30 years older.

[/QUOTE]Just food for thought amigo.

I've traveled the world and have met women from all parts.

IMO the absolute sweetest women in the world are from north east Brazil.

The dominicana, though I love their spirit, are culturally much more tricky dicky.

Of course I'm speaking in general.

Good luck in your travels.

[QUOTE=Ozzie1451;1667634]Do you want to limit your DR experience just to the posts here? Why don't you bite the bullet and make the trip without any planning as I did. I have been here a few times. I came to santo domingo first time, I did not like it at all and took the bus to puerto plata right away. I was able to do it because I have read the posts and used the information. You may like it or hate it in DR. But you will never know if you don't experience it yourself.[/QUOTE]Or he can carry on reading advice from people who have never been to Santo Domingo. I respect the people who at least admit they've never visited but we should all stay away from commenting on places we've never been.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1667687]IMO the absolute sweetest women in the world are from north east Brazil.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but they don't have necks.

I live in Sosua. I have lived in Medellin. In many venues (Medellin casa vs 1500 peso Sosua girls) about the same price or close. All Sosua girls are darker, no problem for me. The Medellin casa girls will really make you feel like you have a girlfriend. Wow is all I can say. There are some very good looking girls in Sosua (to American more flaca standard) and there are tons of really beautiful Medellin girls. Lots of slim Colombianas. One thing for sure. Older guys get a better reception with Dominican women than they get in Colombia. Of course, generally speaking. Perhaps the girls are more desperate her in the DR. I am 69. If I was younger, stronger, and better looking, I would head for Colombia and learn my way. I would bring some nice pants and shirts, take it easy, and the girls would eat me up. I also met a lot! Of girls on LatinCupid. Tons of girls of all types.

Makes me want to get back to Medellin! Also, the Medellin people are so nice you won't believe it. The taxi drivers included. (nice taxi cabs too and really really cheap).

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1667769]Yeah, but they don't have necks.[/QUOTE]LOL, I've heard that about the women in Fortaleza and thought guys were bullshiting until I saw some of the pics.

They can still get tha D tho :D

Has anyone stayed the mercure hotel on the conde? How was it? I've seen it for like $45 night and it looks like a very nice hotel from the outside. Also will let two girls at the same time? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Grandnash84;1667802]Has anyone stayed the Mercure Hotel on the conde? How was it? I've seen it for like $45 night and it looks like a very nice hotel from the outside. Also will let two girls at the same time? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I used to stay there back in the day, great breakfast buffet. Then they went gay. Not sure of the status nowadays but be careful. The rooms are so small that you can't walk around without touching the bed.

I have never seen the price of $45. It is more like $70 or more. I think 2 girls will be a problem. My last 2 trips I haves stayed at Reins Isabella $35 a night on the other end of Conde.

[QUOTE=Grandnash84;1667802]Has anyone stayed the mercure hotel on the conde? How was it? I've seen it for like $45 night and it looks like a very nice hotel from the outside. Also will let two girls at the same time? Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1667809]I have never seen the price of $45. It is more like $70 or more. I think 2 girls will be a problem. My last 2 trips I haves stayed at Reins Isabella $35 a night on the other end of Conde.[/QUOTE]Would two girls be a problem there?

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1667805]I used to stay there back in the day, great breakfast buffet. Then they went gay. Not sure of the status nowadays but be careful. The rooms are so small that you can't walk around without touching the bed.[/QUOTE]Seems like a lot of hotel on the conde are turning gay. Samw thing happend to roma hotel.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1667474]There are plenty of White forum members here with Dominican girlfriends (some even live in the DR part time), so that is not an issue. The street hustlers, crooked cops, and rip-off taxistas are though.

I didn't mean to scare you off, but it sounded like you had no idea about what you were about to get into going to the DR and comparing it to Colombia. Send Cape1967 a PM and get his take on living in Santo Domingo. He should be able to steer you straight.

You could also look at living in another part of the island like Puerto Plata, Santiago, or Sosua. You will find less problems here (North Coast) than you would in Santo Domingo. Lots of European and American expats are on the North Coast as well (Charles Pooter is from the UK and lives on the North Coast). This is also were the best beaches are (Sosua, Cabarete):

[b]Sosua Beach:[/b]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAffeHrEF5o[/url]

You can stay on the North Coast and take the bus to Santo Domingo one weekend to see if you like it or not. Or if you are feeling adventurous, rent a car and drive around the island. That is the one advantage the DR has over Colombia. There are a lot of members here who have written about their experience driving in the DR. You can ask Mr. Enternational, Tempoecorto, GrownMan, Knowledge, or Cape1967.

If you meet a chica online that live in Santo Domingo (like at Dominican Cupid.com) you can always have her take the bus to come and visit you. Most will be thrilled to get out of the city and visit a beach town like Sosua or Cabarete (Cabarete is maybe 10 mins away from Sosua).

The DR can be fun, just don't expect most people to mind their own business like they do in Colombia. The DR is a major tourist hub and everyone there is trying to make a buck off of the visiting gringo. You just have to know (learn) how to deal with them.

[b]Cuba Dave: Advice on Partying in Sosua, Dominican Republic[/b]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Oh0VW4UZbA[/url]

(D'Latino's is no longer open, but all of the other clubs he mentions are)

[b]CUBADAVE'S OFF SEASON TRAVEL TO SOSUA:[/b]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iVv1TPNqbE[/url]

Fair Warning: The videos are from 2012-2013, so a lot of the places he mentions are not even open anymore. But the general info is still the same.[/QUOTE]Then I will investigate and come back with some insights and issues to disscus.

Charles Pooter, that was a good one! LOL. I got the hint.

[QUOTE=Grandnash84;1667802]Has anyone stayed the mercure hotel on the conde? How was it? I've seen it for like $45 night and it looks like a very nice hotel from the outside. Also will let two girls at the same time? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Nice hotel good location and will charge you extra for you chicas.

Front desk never asked for cedulla. They are very nice.

[QUOTE=Grandnash84;1667972]Would two girls be a problem there?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1668297]Nice hotel good location and will charge you extra for you chicas.[/QUOTE]How much per chica.

Hi guys,

I am an middle aged Australian Chinese with some basic Spanish. Will I be sticking out like a sore thumb in the DR? I have booked a week in Santo Domingo in June but should I shift to Sosua instead? Opinion welcome.

Thanks,

Prick

[QUOTE=EricThePrick;1670065]Hi guys,

I am an middle aged Australian Chinese with some basic Spanish. Will I be sticking out like a sore thumb in the DR? I have booked a week in Santo Domingo in June but should I shift to Sosua instead? Opinion welcome.

Thanks,

Prick[/QUOTE]Sure you will stick out. However nobody will give a damn. There are a lot of Chinese people running restaurants and stores in the DR. I would switch to Sosua. The guy I met on my last trip to Sosua and gave a ride to Santo Domingo is Asian American.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1670096]Sure you will stick out. However nobody will give a damn. There are a lot of Chinese people running restaurants and stores in the DR. I would switch to Sosua. The guy I met on my last trip to Sosua and gave a ride to Santo Domingo is Asian American.[/QUOTE]As usual, it is not just the info provided in the suggestion but the reassurance.

Thanks Mr.

Prick

[QUOTE=Grandnash84;1668413]How much per chica.[/QUOTE]Can't honestly say I just heard some mongers complaining and they were mad as hell. They said they got their rooms for two adults and were still charged. It wasn't cheap.

[QUOTE=Grandnash84;1667802]Has anyone stayed the mercure hotel on the conde? How was it? I've seen it for like $45 night and it looks like a very nice hotel from the outside. Also will let two girls at the same time? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Stayed here several times, the last being about 5-years ago. There is a guest fee; recall it being maybe $15-$20. It is a nice spot to sit out on their patio and watch the parade of girls go by, plus the food is rather good there too. Rooms are clean, tiled floors. There are gay couples who stay there, but to say it's a gay hotel, it's not. Can't say about 2-girls, but at night, with the right amount of cash for security, anything is possible in the DR.

Recently I was in Santo Domingo and invited a DC chica from Hato Mayor del Rey to joi me in the capital. She is 18 but I asked her to make she has her cedula with her. As it seems customary in the DR, it happened the first time I met my now ex-novia, she came with her mom who was willing and ready to make a singular and prompt.

Turnaround back home now that she has physically met her daughter's suitor. Problem is, the chica does not have a cedula so she brought what looked like her birth certificate. Needless to say the hotel staff won't allow her to get into my room even with mom's intervention. When the chica arrived at the hotel Riparbella where I was staying, I was with a friend from Miami that I had also just recently met and who was staying in the same hotel. The funny thing.

Is, the guy got laid with mom while I was waiting with the daughter at the reception. After he was done, we saw mom and daughter off on their way back to the province. I continue to communicate with the chica and apparently she is has applied for her cedula, and says it might take a month to get her cedula as there was a problem with her birth certificate. Of course I told her if she does not obtain her cedula, I do not intend to see her the next time I am in the DR. Anecdotal "no tengo cedula" even from chica who look 18 or older, appears to be significantly high for chica with darker skin (Haitians or Haitian parent (s)?. My interpretation is this might be associated with questionable nationality than the complexity in the application process.

1. Everything being normal, does anyone on this board know how long it takes to process a cedula in the DR?

2. If my hypothesis about "no tengo cedula" is true. Then how have some of you who have faced tbis, dealt with?

Will appreciate all of your thoughts.

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I am going to an event in SD from 22-26 Jan and the organizers have booked me into Hotel Europa in Zona Colonial.

I have emailed to ask their guest policy but no response in over a week.

Can anyone help with that?

Also where is best to go nearby to find a nightly playmate?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Cestme;1670497]Recently I was in Santo Domingo and invited a DC chica from Hato Mayor del Rey to joi me in the capital. She is 18 but I asked her to make she has her cedula with her. As it seems customary in the DR, it happened the first time I met my now ex-novia, she came with her mom who was willing and ready to make a singular and prompt.

Turnaround back home now that she has physically met her daughter's suitor. Problem is, the chica does not have a cedula so she brought what looked like her birth certificate. Needless to say the hotel staff won't allow her to get into my room even with mom's intervention. When the chica arrived at the hotel Riparbella where I was staying, I was with a friend from Miami that I had also just recently met and who was staying in the same hotel. The funny thing.

Is, the guy got laid with mom while I was waiting with the daughter at the reception. After he was done, we saw mom and daughter off on their way back to the province. I continue to communicate with the chica and apparently she is has applied for her cedula, and says it might take a month to get her cedula as there was a problem with her birth certificate. Of course I told her if she does not obtain her cedula, I do not intend to see her the next time I am in the DR. Anecdotal "no tengo cedula" even from chica who look 18 or older, appears to be significantly high for chica with darker skin (Haitians or Haitian parent (s)?. My interpretation is this might be associated with questionable nationality than the complexity in the application process.

1. Everything being normal, does anyone on this board know how long it takes to process a cedula in the DR?

2. If my hypothesis about "no tengo cedula" is true. Then how have some of you who have faced tbis, dealt with?

Will appreciate all of your thoughts.

[/QUOTE]The roma hotel on the conde lets you bring guests in with no cedula. You have to sign them in though, and walk them out when you are done.

[QUOTE=Grandnash84;1670663]The roma hotel on the conde lets you bring guests in with no cedula. You have to sign them in though, and walk them out when you are done.[/QUOTE]Thanks Grandnash84. Do you have to pay extra for having chica overnight? On the other point, it appears that chicas with traits generally attributed to those with Haitian decent, including those born in the DR, are the most likely IMHO to say they do not have a cedula because of something related to their birth certificate. I have a kindergarten's understanding of the Spanish language but somewhere in their narrative "padre" comes up as being seemingly part of, if not, the problem. For those of you who are familiar with DR laws, is paternity test part of the application process for a cedula card? I always ask to see chica's cedula before I spend anytime together with her even if she looks old enough, but what would happen if she didn't have it and I were to be confronted by the DR authority? Any prior experience?

Is this hotel still a good spot and chica friendly?

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1670973]Is this hotel still a good spot and chica friendly?[/QUOTE]I wish I could help you, but I still like staying at Jaguar. I believe Old Kool stayed at Palacio in the past.

[QUOTE=Troubleman69;1670992]I wish I could help you, but I still like staying at Jaguar. I believe Old Kool stayed at Palacio in the past.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response bro. I'll hit you on the back channel to chat with you again sometime.

[QUOTE=Cestme;1670919]Thanks Grandnash84. Do you have to pay extra for having chica overnight? On the other point, it appears that chicas with traits generally attributed to those with Haitian decent, including those born in the DR, are the most likely IMHO to say they do not have a cedula because of something related to their birth certificate. I have a kindergarten's understanding of the Spanish language but somewhere in their narrative "padre" comes up as being seemingly part of, if not, the problem. For those of you who are familiar with DR laws, is paternity test part of the application process for a cedula card? I always ask to see chica's cedula before I spend anytime together with her even if she looks old enough, but what would happen if she didn't have it and I were to be confronted by the DR authority? Any prior experience?[/QUOTE]No extra charge for guests. The rooms are very spacious, wifi is good, remolded, flat screen, a /c. Good price but a lot of gays started going to the hotel. Got to find a new spot on the conde.

I have stayed at both jarguar and Palacio. Palacio is a nice chica friendly hotel. The rooms are a little dated. I enjoy the breakfast buffet which is included. The price is close to $100 per night. I now stay at the Reina Isabela $35 a night right on el Conde a block from Pacos / Grands. The price and location is better then Palacio and Jarguar. The hotel is attractive and the staff very helpful. Yes it is chica friendly. I had no issues with theplace.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1670973]Is this hotel still a good spot and chica friendly?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1671065]I have stayed at both jarguar and Palacio. Palacio is a nice chica friendly hotel. The rooms are a little dated. I enjoy the breakfast buffet which is included. The price is close to $100 per night. I now stay at the Reina Isabela $35 a night right on el Conde a block from Pacos / Grands. The price and location is better then Palacio and Jarguar. The hotel is attractive and the staff very helpful. Yes it is chica friendly. I had no issues with theplace.[/QUOTE]Damn! Palacio must have really fallen off since I stayed there 5 years ago. The room was big and plush with a king sized bed and the bathroom was up to date with all the modern amenities. It was 80 usd a night then. Breakfast was good as Old Kool says. Never had problems bringing chicas in. The owner was Swedish and moody. One minute he doesn't know or see you then the next he was very nice. Great location.

I've stayed also at Mystic, the hotel next to Monolos and Napolitano. My hotel while in SD is Napolitano now. About 82 a night with ocean view and a casino and disco down stairs. Chica friendly and newly renovated rooms. I even got Mr E to spend the 80 a night to stay there one night and he loved it. Also a masseuse on the hotel 3rd floor and fine ass hell. I'm not going to say much about the massage except I was very happy. Additionally Gogo park is a block away, my favorite spot in SD to get a bottle and people watch with an ocean view.

[QUOTE=Grandnash84;1671040]No extra charge for guests. The rooms are very spacious, wifi is good, remolded, flat screen, a /c. Good price but a lot of gays started going to the hotel. Got to find a new spot on the conde.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I really appreciate your info.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1671065]I have stayed at both jarguar and Palacio. Palacio is a nice chica friendly hotel. The rooms are a little dated. I enjoy the breakfast buffet which is included. The price is close to $100 per night. I now stay at the Reina Isabela $35 a night right on el Conde a block from Pacos / Grands. The price and location is better then Palacio and Jarguar. The hotel is attractive and the staff very helpful. Yes it is chica friendly. I had no issues with theplace.[/QUOTE]I've look at pics of the rooms, looks small. Can you confirm?

I have stayed at the Palacio several times. The rooms vary in size. The smallest is what they call the Traveler's Studio. They have a few of those. The other rooms are more expensive and larger. I used to get a good price on this hotel booking through Expedia.

[QUOTE=Grandnash84;1671086]I've look at pics of the rooms, looks small. Can you confirm?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=OldKool;1671065]I have stayed at both jarguar and Palacio. Palacio is a nice chica friendly hotel. The rooms are a little dated. I enjoy the breakfast buffet which is included. The price is close to $100 per night. I now stay at the Reina Isabela $35 a night right on el Conde a block from Pacos / Grands. The price and location is better then Palacio and Jarguar. The hotel is attractive and the staff very helpful. Yes it is chica friendly. I had no issues with theplace.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback Kool.

[QUOTE=ThreeHoles;1670562]I am going to an event in SD from 22-26 Jan and the organizers have booked me into Hotel Europa in Zona Colonial.

I have emailed to ask their guest policy but no response in over a week.

Can anyone help with that?

Also where is best to go nearby to find a nightly playmate?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Hotel Europa is Girl Friendly.

Does anybody know how much is a cab from SDQ to Sosua.

[QUOTE=Mfins;1671524]Hotel Europa is Girl Friendly.[/QUOTE]Great,

Much appreciated thanks Mfins.

This one is real close. Sosua is about 200 miles from SD. You will pay $200 for a 3 to 4 hour cab ride or catch the bus and pay $8 and ride 4 to 5 hours in a modern bus. Do the math.

[QUOTE=Stebo419;1671935]Does anybody know how much is a cab from SDQ to Sosua.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1671985]This one is real close. Sosua is about 200 miles from SD. You will pay $200 for a 3 to 4 hour cab ride or catch the bus and pay $8 and ride 4 to 5 hours in a modern bus. Do the math.[/QUOTE]200 km maybe, but definitely not 200 miles. 1.6 km/mile. 125 miles. I would say it is closer to 250 km though or 156 miles.

Hey Gents.

It's been a long time since I have been on the board. I haven't been able to get away for almost 3 years but I am ready to get back to our little island real soon. I have been all over the DR but yet to go to a car wash. I am very curious on what exactly the experience is like. Can I go alone or will the record scratch when I arrive? Is there a car wash anyone can suggest to cut my teeth? Can anyone please describe the vibe to the best of their ability? All and any info is much appreciated.

Thanks.

Flaco.

[QUOTE=FlacoLoco;1672423]Hey Gents.

It's been a long time since I have been on the board. I haven't been able to get away for almost 3 years but I am ready to get back to our little island real soon. I have been all over the DR but yet to go to a car wash. I am very curious on what exactly the experience is like. Can I go alone or will the record scratch when I arrive? Is there a car wash anyone can suggest to cut my teeth? Can anyone please describe the vibe to the best of their ability? All and any info is much appreciated.

Thanks.

Flaco.[/QUOTE]No one to chime in?

[QUOTE=FlacoLoco;1672844]No one to chime in?[/QUOTE]I have a partner that's in the area and he took me around to the car washes I can give you his number if you like.

[QUOTE=FlacoLoco;1672844]No one to chime in?[/QUOTE]More information would help. What model of car, and how dirty is it?

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1673281]More information would help. What model of car, and how dirty is it?[/QUOTE]LOL. Maybe it is a yipeta. A couple of years ago I visited two carwashes, LOS Taxistas and The Home Run, one is on Monoguayabo and the other near Carrefour, both basically on Santo Domingo West. They have the car wash with the bar attached to it. The bar is of course the area you interest to visit. They either have live or recorded music at high volume. Food and drinks are unexpensive. Girls who visit the place are mostly from nearby areas. If you want to connect with a lady just introduce yourself, there is a 99% chance that you are going to hit, but this rule basicaly apply if you visit any other place in the city, as for example bars on Avenida Venezuela. There are lot of carwashes accross the city.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1673289]LOL. Maybe it is a yipeta. A couple of years ago I visited two carwashes, LOS Taxistas and The Home Run, one is on Monoguayabo and the other near Carrefour, both basically on Santo Domingo West. They have the car wash with the bar attached to it. The bar is of course the area you interest to visit. They either have live or recorded music at high volume. Food and drinks are unexpensive. Girls who visit the place are mostly from nearby areas. If you want to connect with a lady just introduce yourself, there is a 99% chance that you are going to hit, but this rule basicaly apply if you visit any other place in the city, as for example bars on Avenida Venezuela. There are lot of carwashes accross the city.[/QUOTE]So are these places visited by guys (gringos) walking in solo? My Spanish skills are good but I just didn't want all eyes on me if I walk into the joint. I'd like to settle in like a fly on the wall have a few beers and kidnap a honey. Is my plan feasible? These places are basically chill? Are they daytime or night time?

It sounds like fun and I just want to know what the vibe is and what I am getting into. Anyone have a good car wash story they would like to share?

[QUOTE=FlacoLoco;1673347]So are these places visited by guys (gringos) walking in solo? My Spanish skills are good but I just didn't want all eyes on me if I walk into the joint. I'd like to settle in like a fly on the wall have a few beers and kidnap a honey. Is my plan feasible? These places are basically chill? Are they daytime or night time?

It sounds like fun and I just want to know what the vibe is and what I am getting into. Anyone have a good car wash story they would like to share?[/QUOTE]The car wash is a genuine car wash place. I have had my car washed on Santo Domingo. Santiago highway for example and to while away the time, went to sit at the bar. I did this on several occasions at various places (never inside the cities) but never took out anyone (or went inside with anyone) as I did not find anyone worth the salt. Your choice may be different and so if you are driving in with a car, no one, would look askance just because you are a Gringo (does the term include Black or darker Americans or is it a generic foreigner. I wonder). The women, as Boricuaonline suggested are there for business so a friendly nod and offer to buy a beer would set the process in motion, all the more so, given that you speak the lingo.

[QUOTE=FlacoLoco;1672423]Hey Gents.

It's been a long time since I have been on the board. I haven't been able to get away for almost 3 years but I am ready to get back to our little island real soon. I have been all over the DR but yet to go to a car wash. I am very curious on what exactly the experience is like. Can I go alone or will the record scratch when I arrive? Is there a car wash anyone can suggest to cut my teeth? Can anyone please describe the vibe to the best of their ability? All and any info is much appreciated.

Thanks.

Flaco.[/QUOTE]Went to a few car washes in sd and santiago, nothing special. Went to puro car wash in sd two times. Saw one of the most bueatiful girls in dr there but she was talking to another man so couldn't take her out and left sd the next day to another city so I didn't get a chance to get her. Went back a few months later and she tried to charge me 5000rd for short term! Lmaoo. Thats how much they charge for short term LOL. And drinks at the car wash are expensive as hell. Its a lot cheaper to go to a casa and pay 4000 for two hours and the drinks are a lot cheaper. Plus the women look better in the casas. About 8-10 months a go someone wrote an extensive report on sd. Try to look it up because he names like 10 car washes and their addresses. Also try the links of destinction because I think someone posted his report there and might be easier to find instaed of weeding throuhg all the bullshit.

Car washes:

My first experience with Dominican car washes was in La Romana. The car washes in Santo Domingo are set up the same way. There is a hand car wash outside and a separate building that either has a disco or pool tables and a bar depending on which car wash. These car washes are literally all over the city and the below list does not begin to scratch the surface. Please forgive me if I got the addresses wrong mi Espanol es no bueno. You pay the salida exit fee and negotiate separately with the chica her tarifa.

Below I have listed a few:

Puro Car Wash Calle Juan Pablo why Calle Monte.

Salida: 1000 DOP.

Chica tarifa: 3000-4000 DOP for 2 hours.

Brea Car Wash & Brea Bar Calle Boca why Juan Erazo.

Salida: 500 DOP.

Chica tarifa: 2000 DOP and up.

The James Plaza Calle Maximo Gomez.

Salida: 500 DOP.

Chica tarifa: 2000 DOP and up.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1673352]"Gringo" - does the term include Black or darker Americans or is it a generic foreigner? [/QUOTE]The meaning may have changed over relatively recent decades and be differently understood in different areas or social classes, but my experience on the North Coast (only) is that:

(1) whereas it used to be mildly derogative it is now fairly neutral. I still don't think an official or person in authority would use it, though.

(2) it is now used for all foreigners regardless of skin-color or nationality. Maybe not for latinos or others who could be mistaken for Dominicans, as I have known an Indian and also a Native American to have been. And those from East Asia are all "chinos". Whether Chinese, Japanese, Korean or even SE Asian.

Foregoing are just my personal impressions. No problem if I find the majority have other views.

[QUOTE=Grandnash84;1673641]she tried to charge me 5000rd for short term! [/QUOTE]Does that include polishing your chromework and vacuuming your seats?

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1673710]Does that include polishing your chromework and vacuuming your seats?[/QUOTE]You are too funny, CP. I was thinking the same thing!

One of my favorite places in Santo Domingo to hang out in is a pool spot with a car wash in the back. I don't know the name of the place, but it's near the Texaco on Avenida Espana. I've never seen anyone washing cars there, but I mostly go at night. I've taken 2 of the waitresses out of there after it closed, and it only cost me between 2000 and 2500 pesos. Also, I didn't find the bottles of Brugal or the Presidentes that I purchased too expensive. I've also had success with a chica who was not an employee. We did our thing in my drivers mini van in the parking lot. I guess that was just a chemistry thing, because that only cost me a couple of cups from my bottle of Brugal, and taxi fare home.

The other place that I like does have an actual working car wash, with a restaurant and lounge in the same complex. I think it's called Segura, but I'm not 100% sure. I'm bad with names, including people. I've never taken a chica from there, but I have exchanged numbers with a couple of the waitresses in the restaurant and lounge. Finally, the old La Base Sports Bar (I can't remember the name now) has a car wash attached as well. The waitresses for the most part are available for take out, but again I've only exchanged numbers with them, and haven't actually sealed the deal with any of them. Like Camaro says, those places are all over the city, and for some it might be fun. I enjoy them, because I really can't stand clubs, and it gives me a chance to interact with locals. There is music, pool tables, food, and at least in my experiences, several tables of chicas sin hombres. I've seen gringos in the old La Base, but not in the other spots, and I have only met 1 girl who spoke any english at these places.

Troubleman, Grandnash, Camaro.

Thanks for the input! I will definitely scope some out and report back on my experience.

Whats up fellas! MY friends and I are renting the MD villa in Las Terrenas for three days and like to know, if anyone know if you can take out girls from Casa Teresa or can name any place in Santo Domingo we can go and get girls out for a couple of days to have fun with in the villa? Any info we be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1673693]Car washes:

My first experience with Dominican car washes was in La Romana. The car washes in Santo Domingo are set up the same way. There is a hand car wash outside and a separate building that either has a disco or pool tables and a bar depending on which car wash. These car washes are literally all over the city and the below list does not begin to scratch the surface. Please forgive me if I got the addresses wrong mi Espanol es no bueno. You pay the salida exit fee and negotiate separately with the chica her tarifa.

Below I have listed a few:

Puro Car Wash Calle Juan Pablo why Calle Monte.

Salida: 1000 DOP.

Chica tarifa: 3000-4000 DOP for 2 hours.

Brea Car Wash & Brea Bar Calle Boca why Juan Erazo.

Salida: 500 DOP.

Chica tarifa: 2000 DOP and up.

The James Plaza Calle Maximo Gomez.

Salida: 500 DOP.

Chica tarifa: 2000 DOP and up.[/QUOTE]I guess this is the report I was reffering too LOL. Great report my man! One of the best info someone ever posted on here. Do you have a link or copy of this you can dm me? Thanks brutha.

In case you don't find chicas to go from SD with you to Las Terranas there are places there to check out. I was in Las Terranas last week. There's a place called El Rincon De Rosa where there are chicas available on site or take out. I was brought there by a local so I could not even begin to give you directions. But ask a cab driver. They should know where it is. 1500st on site or 2500 take out. Good luck. The beaches are great.

[QUOTE=Robland;1674057]Whats up fellas! MY friends and I are renting the MD villa in Las Terrenas for three days and like to know, if anyone know if you can take out girls from Casa Teresa or can name any place in Santo Domingo we can go and get girls out for a couple of days to have fun with in the villa? Any info we be appreciated.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1667769]Yeah, but they don't have necks.[/QUOTE]I thought RICKER had found paradise in NE Brazil, then this comes up!

Long necks are very attractive and short necks are not. It should really matter, but it does.

Damn!

They are superb the females from NE Brazil, the sweetest girls in the whole world according to a 100% trustworthy ISG veteran!

But short necks. When I read it I fel I was going there, like scoring the goal in my life. But I hit the Post. I hit the post!

Now I will reconider DR agian, which isn't to bad.

I use Latineuro.

I mean are those girls hot or what!

I have like 66 favorites from DR in my profile on Latineuro.

Compared with Brazil; almost equally 9's and 10's, but Brazil have what no other latin country has; a ethnical mix; blondes, redheads, brunnettes, Pocahontas, black babes, small ones, big ass, busty, rich and well educated, young, MILFs. DR feamles are bown or black, all of them it seems, maybe 3% of the population is "white", what is white for an Anglo-Saxon person.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1674468]I use Latineuro. I mean are those girls hot or what! I have like 66 favorites from DR in my profile on Latineuro.[/QUOTE]Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Latin Euro used to be a ripoff website? They used to charge you per person that you wanted information for and half the time the info was bogus or outdated. Then in 2005 came the Cupid sites where you could communicate directly in real time with as many ladies as you wanted for a base monthly, quarterly, or yearly rate.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1674501]Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Latin Euro used to be a ripoff website? They used to charge you per person that you wanted information for and half the time the info was bogus or outdated. Then in 2005 came the Cupid sites where you could communicate directly in real time with as many ladies as you wanted for a base monthly, quarterly, or yearly rate.[/QUOTE]I reply to Mr Eternal on general Info.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1665685]You should be banned as a bad influence on newbies.[/QUOTE]I didn't know about this ficive personality, funny guy.

[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Pooter[/URL]

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1674626]I didn't know about this fictive personality, funny guy.

[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Pooter[/URL][/QUOTE]He is one of my two role models in life. (The other being Basil Fawlty).

Plus a pun on the word "puta" of course.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1674642]He is one of my two role models in life. (The other being Basil Fawlty).[/QUOTE]Ha! Basil Fawlty, of all. LOL. I remember buying the DVD. What, about 20 years back, perhaps 25? I love their whole "equipo" - Michael Palin in particular.

A few weeks ago I went to Santo Domingo. Usually, I stay at the Jaragua but it is closed during renovations so I stayed at the Napolitano Hotel. The cost was $90.00 a night including breakfast. There's a nice pool, a restaurant 2 bars and a little Casino. The Napolitano is chica friendly with no additional charge for guests. During my stay I brought a few buddies to the pool and they didn't have to pay.

They have live entertainment at least 3 times a week which is heavily attended by locals. It's a good hotel. A little outdated but as far as I know it's the only big hotel on the Malecon that is completely guest friendly and has the aforementioned amenities.

These pictures are of the view from the room I had, the horse and buggy out front and the pool and Hotel sign.

The best hotel deal in SD is Rienas Iabela. $35 gets a nice size room a little dated but chica friendly and right on Calle El Conde. I have stayed all over SD and this place hands down is the best deal I have seen. $5 gets a nice breakfast.

[QUOTE=JJ341;1675278]A few weeks ago I went to Santo Domingo. Usually, I stay at the Jaragua but it is closed during renovations so I stayed at the Napolitano Hotel. The cost was $90.00 a night including breakfast. There's a nice pool, a restaurant 2 bars and a little Casino. The Napolitano is chica friendly with no additional charge for guests. During my stay I brought a few buddies to the pool and they didn't have to pay.

They have live entertainment at least 3 times a week which is heavily attended by locals. It's a good hotel. A little outdated but as far as I know it's the only big hotel on the Malecon that is completely guest friendly and has the aforementioned amenities.

These pictures are of the view from the room I had, the horse and buggy out front and the pool and Hotel sign.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1675398]The best hotel deal in SD is Rienas Iabela. $35 gets a nice size room a little dated but chica friendly and right on Calle El Conde. I have stayed all over SD and this place hands down is the best deal I have seen. $5 gets a nice breakfast.[/QUOTE]Thnaks, OK. I booked a room here in June. Any busty chicas nearby, preferably English-speaking? Thanks, amigo.

Pacos / Grands is located less then a block from the hotel. There are chicas there dsy and night. 3 or 4 at a time and more as you walk El Conde. The street walkers are cool. The quality varies but some gems can be found. 1500 pesos will get the job done. For big chested women you may want to try the casas. Not my cup of tea but there are some great quality at several of the local casas nearby. The price and atmosphere turns me off. Most casas are 3 k pesos for ST. There are cheaper places but they are dives.

[QUOTE=DCups;1675408]Thnaks, OK. I booked a room here in June. Any busty chicas nearby, preferably English-speaking? Thanks, amigo.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1675443]Pacos / Grands is located less then a block from the hotel. There are chicas there dsy and night. 3 or 4 at a time and more as you walk El Conde. The street walkers are cool. The quality varies but some gems can be found. 1500 pesos will get the job done. For big chested women you may want to try the casas. Not my cup of tea but there are some great quality at several of the local casas nearby. The price and atmosphere turns me off. Most casas are 3 k pesos for ST. There are cheaper places but they are dives.[/QUOTE]Muchas gracias, Old Kool. If you happen to be there June 16 and / or 28-29 the beer's on me.

Not sure how much you know about the zonal colonal It is very safe but does attract scammers who feed on tourists. I don't do casas so SD for me requires preparation. What preparation is having girls lineup for dating. I use the Cupid and my rolodex to insure a great time. Time is precious so I work hard to make sure I have what I want. I love the illusion of having young GFs. The DR provides us an opportunity to live like celebrities. I have say it can be breath taking. Walking around in Rumbas with every women in the place eye balling you and hoping you say something to them. What a 180 from life in the US. I would suggest having many options because things change quickly.

[QUOTE=DCups;1675484]Muchas gracias, Old Kool. If you happen to be there June 16 and / or 28-29 the beer's on me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1675398]The best hotel deal in SD is Rienas Iabela. $35 gets a nice size room a little dated but chica friendly and right on Calle El Conde. I have stayed all over SD and this place hands down is the best deal I have seen. $5 gets a nice breakfast.[/QUOTE]How big are the rooms? From the pics on the website they look small.

J have stayed in several hotels in SD. The rooms were comparable to in size. The furnishings were dated but I had no complaints. The price and convenience exceeded the others.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1675626]Not sure how much you know about the zonal colonal It is very safe but does attract scammers who feed on tourists. I don't do casas so SD for me requires preparation. What preparation is having girls lineup for dating. I use the Cupid and my rolodex to insure a great time. Time is precious so I work hard to make sure I have what I want. I love the illusion of having young GFs. The DR provides us an opportunity to live like celebrities. I have say it can be breath taking. Walking around in Rumbas with every women in the place eye balling you and hoping you say something to them. What a 180 from life in the US. I would suggest having many options because things change quickly.[/QUOTE]Yes I know what you mean. I feel like that when I go to the PI but not too may big breasts in the PI! I have been making contacts on DC. I only want the ones with pretty face and big boobs and hopefully not too big ass.

There is a lot of beauties on Latineuro.

I have like 66 of them in my faouritelist so far!

This girl is exceptional.

But compared with the other girls on Latineuro she is not.

The site is "real", not fake as Amolatina.

All girls from all countries on Latineuro are very attractive, wonder how they sort out girls?

Latineuro provides us with girls that are all from 100% prostitues to girls that really want to get married, and you will like most of them for whatever your purpose is!

Photos are often very provocative, indication that she is more than a innocent, but many times I have been mistaken it seems.

That was in Colombia.

Anyone having met girls from DR?

This one is from Santo Domingo.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1674501]Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Latin Euro used to be a ripoff website? They used to charge you per person that you wanted information for and half the time the info was bogus or outdated. Then in 2005 came the Cupid sites where you could communicate directly in real time with as many ladies as you wanted for a base monthly, quarterly, or yearly rate.[/QUOTE]According to my best female friend in Medellin, who got a profile on Latineuro on my advice; "it's completly different".

Without the direct contact, she doesn't get all the $$for-sex suggestions, of which the major part is just for seing her on webcam etc.

Cupid is in the end a good site, Latineuro is also, just need to have patience!

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1675971]There is a lot of beauties




Anyone having met girls from DR?

This one is from Santo Domingo.[/QUOTE]That girl from the picture, I met her on Badoo, Sexy or Not, Hi5, she sent me pictures but I never met her in person because she has a bad attitude, very hardcore always asking for gifts. It was years ago.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1676064]That girl from the picture, I met her on Badoo, Sexy or Not, Hi5, she sent me pictures but I never met her in person because she has a bad attitude, very hardcore always asking for gifts. It was years ago.[/QUOTE]My point exactly. When a mf is going fishing they better have some bait. That pic serves as the bait. And even if a pic like that was real, no chick worth anything would post it on a dating site. You got to learn to separate the wheat from the chaff. Just because you see it shining and spinning don't mean it's your next meal. You may be being set up to be the meal.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1675975]According to my best female friend in Medellin, who got a profile on Latineuro on my advice; "it's completly different".

Without the direct contact, she doesn't get all the $$for-sex suggestions, of which the major part is just for seing her on webcam etc.

Cupid is in the end a good site, Latineuro is also, just need to have patience![/QUOTE]According to your female friend it's different? Dude, we are the hunters. How does Bambi getting a break from being chased by hunters do us any good? You want the deer to run and run until it's too tired to run any more. That is when you catch it.

Everyone knows that it is a numbers game with women. There is no patience variable. The more you can talk to, the better your chances of getting a yes. If one gets past me then hopefully my buddy 50 yards down the meadow can catch it. I'm not about to pay $100 for 10 chicks' emails and phone numbers when I can pay $30 for unlimited. Hell and more than likely the ones that you pay for will probably be on unlimited or free site as well as BO has attested to.

[QUOTE=EricThePrick;1670065]Hi guys,

I am an middle aged Australian Chinese with some basic Spanish. Will I be sticking out like a sore thumb in the DR? I have booked a week in Santo Domingo in June but should I shift to Sosua instead? Opinion welcome.

Thanks,

Prick[/QUOTE]Hey Eric. There are more Orientals in SD than you might think.

As others have said, there is an established Chinese community there with their own Chinatown. In fact, the man who runs a gift shop on Calle Arzobispo Merino almost directly the Catedral Primada de America (the one with tables and chairs on the right looking into the shop from the street where one can sit and enjoy a cold beer from the fridge) is certainly of Oriental heritage as they say in Oz. A couple of the sales assistants, females in their early 20's and possibly his daughters, look as if they are mixed Oriental and Dominicana.

The majority of tourists were from the States, Canada, Brazil, France with smaller numbers from Jamaica, Cuba and Peru and some of these will are of pure Oriental blood. In fact, you will stick out for being an Aussie as SD doesn't seem to be on the walkabout route.

And also as others have already said, no one will give a damn. Best brush up on your Spanish though. You won't regret it!!

I haven't been to Sosua so I'm not in a position to compare.

On my recent visit, I noticed a group of ladies along El Conde all wearing canary yellow t shirts and jeans offering massages, pedicures and manicures. There were a couple of other establishments where there were men dressed as barbers, one on El Conde itself almost next door to the Pub Alleman and one about 20 metres round the corner to the left down Calle Palo Hincado heading towards the seafront, standing in the doorway also offering these services. Interestingly, every one of them were dark skinned Dominicans.

Nowadays I'm more into he massages than FS and was sorely tempted to toftt but having rtff, I was mindful of potential scams. Does anyone know whether these places offer more than a massage?

I recommend you and everybody else avoid those offers like the plague. Most of them are run by the same foreigner who is in cahoots with the tourist police and national police. That means when you complain about being scammed, the police will not be helpful. If you have time and extra energy, you can negotiate a price IN advance. Even that does not tend to be easy. In my opinion it is not worth the hassle. The scam is aimed at tourists and cruise ship passengers. They get you in the establishment and cut your hair, shave you, or file your nails, then they announce an unfairly high price. When you protest, they go into a routine designed to intimidate you, bore you, waste your time, make you feel guilty, embarrass you, and whatever else it takes to get you to pay up. If you continue to protest they will threaten police involvement. If you get the police involved, they will bring down the price a bit but by then you already lost part of your vacation to the nonsense. To be honest, I never experienced this myself but I've seen annoyed tourists dealing with it a couple of times and several friends confirmed the details of other incidents involving these low grade criminals.

I think someone told the story on here a while back of refusing to be victimized and calling the bluff. I don't doubt it happened that way but it's not my idea of a good time.

[QUOTE=Grandpianist;1676588]On my recent visit, I noticed a group of ladies along El Conde all wearing canary yellow t shirts and jeans offering massages, pedicures and manicures. There were a couple of other establishments where there were men dressed as barbers, one on El Conde itself almost next door to the Pub Alleman and one about 20 metres round the corner to the left down Calle Palo Hincado heading towards the seafront, standing in the doorway also offering these services. Interestingly, every one of them were dark skinned Dominicans.

Nowadays I'm more into he massages than FS and was sorely tempted to toftt but having rtff, I was mindful of potential scams. Does anyone know whether these places offer more than a massage?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Grandpianist;1676584]Hey Eric. There are more Orientals in SD than you might think.[/QUOTE]GP we got to get you out of colonial times. "Oriental" is considered an offensive term these days.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1676877]GP we got to get you out of colonial times. "Oriental" is considered an offensive term these days.[/QUOTE]Everything offends someone these days.

Oriental means Eastern, but if you call someone an Easterner, it sounds like they come from Philadelphia, PA. Asian might be OK, except that in conversations it sound an awful lot like Haitian, which Dominicans think is an offensive term, especially if mistakenly applied to a dark Dominican. Also avoid Japs and Chinks.

Westerner is generally used to refer to people who are not Easterners, both in the US and in the world in general, but we Westerners are less touchy due to our frontier spirit and the West having been won.

Indian can be questionable when applied to native Americans, especially in names of sports teams like the Braves or the Seminoles. (Had Gatorade been invented in Tallahassee instead of in Gainesville, it would probably have been called Seminole Fluid.) However it is fine when applied to natives of Delhi and Calcutta. However natives of Karachi should not be referenced as Pakis.

People of African descent can also be Indians, but only when they have West in front of Indian. People from the East Indies may also be a type of Indian.

In Europe Scotsmen may no longer be referred to as Jocks, nor Irishmen as Paddies, Welshmen as Taffies, Germans as Krauts or Jerries, Frenchmen as frogs, Italians as Eyeties, nor Jews as Yids or Portuguese people as Portagees or Gees, or Russians as Russkis. Dutchmen should be referred to as Netherlanders because they come from the Low countries, but the word Low might be considered detrimental these days.

Danes, Swedes, Finns, and Norwegians may still be safely referred to by their national origin, but should not be called Vikings. Avoid using the Old Testament term Philistines when talking about people from Palestine, and you should be safe.

English people can safely be called anything you like, for example Limey, Brits, or gringos since we cannot be bothered to take offense at jibes from our inferiors, and it is fairly safe to call North Americans Yanks. When going to Quebec try to avoid Canucks and use something like French-Canadian scumbags instead. Also avoid Eskimoes and stick with terms like Inuit or native Alaskans.

In Australia Aussies is OK, but native Australians should no longer be called Abos.

And finally do not call people who come from Constantinople Turkeys, especially at Thanksgiving, as they will think they are going to be eaten.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1676758]

I think someone told the story on here a while back of refusing to be victimized and calling the bluff. I don't doubt it happened that way but it's not my idea of a good time.[/QUOTE]I accepted a massage from one of these hot chicas, she gave me a massage plus shaved my private area. When she finished the guy outside the massage area gave me a haircut and a facial treatment while the lady worked my hands and feet. He quoted me about $160.00 US in a sheet of paper. I paid about $35 which was the originally agreed price. I always acted as a gentleman but was firm that we agreed on a price and that the other services were not requested by me so I consider it part of the deal.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1676758]
I think someone told the story on here a while back of refusing to be victimized and calling the bluff. I don't doubt it happened that way but it's not my idea of a good time.[/QUOTE]I think that was OldKool that reported getting hit with the Barbershop scam:

[QUOTE=OldKool;1409245]I got a haircut and a manicure was charged 50 bucks. I reported to the tourist police 15 minutes later the guy is in hand cuffs on his way to jail.[/QUOTE]

The tourist police were great when this happen to me. The first time the guy dumps all this stuff I did not want and charges an outrageous amount. I report to the tourist police and he is handcuffed and escorted to the police station. They have very strict rules for venders in the zone. They do not want tourists abused because tourism his a huge economic factor. The second time I handled the situation myself. I called him a thief and told him to kiss my ass. I said no problem let's get the police. The guy back tracked faster then Bolt. I paid like $500 pesos and rolled.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1676938]I think that was OldKool that reported getting hit with the Barbershop scam:[/QUOTE]

Everything offends someone these days. Very good, Frannie. I enjoyed reading this. I'm a Yank but have also been called Howlee (sp?) in Hawaii and several other less-than-flattering names in my travels. Cheers.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1676877]GP we got to get you out of colonial times. "Oriental" is considered an offensive term these days.[/QUOTE]It's not where I live.

[QUOTE=DCups;1677152]Everything offends someone these days. Very good, Frannie. I enjoyed reading this. I'm a Yank but have also been called Howlee (sp?) in Hawaii and several other less-than-flattering names in my travels. Cheers.[/QUOTE]I think it is Haole.

My comments were obviously tongue-in-cheek. If you are writing for publication or making a political speech, you are best advised to stick to the terminology recommended by the Chicago Manual of Style or similar publications, but for informal online use or discussions, it does not really matter so much as long as you avoid terms that are obviously meant to insult the reader.

[URL]http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/16/ch08/ch08_toc.html[/URL]

I don't personally understand why it would be allowed to happen a second time.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1676951]The tourist police were great when this happen to me. The first time the guy dumps all this stuff I did not want and charges an outrageous amount. I report to the tourist police and he is handcuffed and escorted to the police station. They have very strict rules for venders in the zone. They do not want tourists abused because tourism his a huge economic factor. The second time I handled the situation myself. I called him a thief and told him to kiss my ass. I said no problem let's get the police. The guy back tracked faster then Bolt. I paid like $500 pesos and rolled.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Frannie;1676901]... it is fairly safe to call North Americans "Yanks".[/QUOTE]Is it now acceptable to call proud citizens of the Deep South "Yanks"?

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1677259]Is it now acceptable to call proud citizens of the Deep South "Yanks"?[/QUOTE]Yanks don't really use the term themselves. It tends to be used by Brits, Aussies, and Saffers who don't know anything about the history of the term.

Has anyone checked this place out yet?

Boricua and I think a few others were there. Run by Waleska from Cisne, GBP, Theresa. More of a take out place, they have a room in back that is pretty basic. 1500 negotiable as always. It's on Costa Rica Street on the second floor of a little strip mall across the street from a park and just east of the corner of Venezuela. There is easy on street parking. It's about three streets past the La Barrica sports bar that is on Venezuela.

[QUOTE=FlacoLoco;1678719]Has anyone checked this place out yet?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Frannie;1677263]Yanks don't really use the term themselves. It tends to be used by Brits, Aussies, and Saffers who don't know anything about the history of the term.[/QUOTE]You have obviously never heard of a sports team called "the Yankees". I thought they were quite well-known.

Anyway, that does not answer my question, but this does (if true):

"Call a Southerner a Yankee and he'll think you're either just plain dumb or that you are trying to pick a fight. ".

Again, I don't know how much truth there is in this:

"To foreigners, a Yankee is an American.

To Americans, a Yankee is a Northerner.

To Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander.

To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter. ".

[QUOTE=Grandpianist;1676588]On my recent visit, I noticed a group of ladies along El Conde all wearing canary yellow t shirts and jeans offering massages, pedicures and manicures. There were a couple of other establishments where there were men dressed as barbers, one on El Conde itself almost next door to the Pub Alleman and one about 20 metres round the corner to the left down Calle Palo Hincado heading towards the seafront, standing in the doorway also offering these services. Interestingly, every one of them were dark skinned Dominicans.

Nowadays I'm more into he massages than FS and was sorely tempted to toftt but having rtff, I was mindful of potential scams. Does anyone know whether these places offer more than a massage?[/QUOTE]I have had several recent encounters with these girls. I start by telling them I am interested in more than a massage, and when they ask what I say a blowjob. They will then offer you a very high price, which I negotiate a little way down to 1500 if they agree to BBBJ. I am an older guy, and these girls are never my first encounter of the day, so I am not likely to finish soon. So somewhere around 15-20 minutes of BBBJ, they get tired, and I suggest fucking- which they always do for an additional 500 (generally, they bend over the table and I take them form the rear).

Its a bit pricey overall, but it is 30-40 minutes of fun, and some of the girls are extremely hot.

The alternative, by the way, is to ask them to come to your hotel and do the massage. I do not talk sex until we get to my room, but it has worked out being a massage plus full service.

On the way back from Boca Chica to Santo Domingo a few minutes ago and I was stopped on the upper malecon (Via Espana) by a couple of National Police in a truck. I had never been stopped by a vehicle before; I had only been stopped by the guys on the motorbikes.

How it happened was I came from behind him and passed at about 70 km/hr while he had his lights on (I know a Black man is never supposed to pass the police.) He then turned his lights off and sped up to catch me. He turned the lights back on when he was directly behind me but I just ignored him. Then he came in the right lane and up to my passenger side and was saying something. I was too busy jamming music to pay attention. I went ahead of him again. He caught back up and I finally pulled over. One came to my side and the other went to my dad's side of the car. He asked for my documents. I said what for? He said some BS that I wasn't even paying attention to. I handed him my phone with my picture of me and the vice president together and asked if I needed to call my friend. He looked at it and asked, "Is that Margarita?" as he passed the phone back. I said it sure is. And she is your friend? I said yep and held the phone to my face so he could see the picture and me at the same time. Then he asked if I was in a rental car. I said it sure is. He said well what are you going to tell her when you call? I said I will say I was on my way to my hotel and some asshole police pulled me over for nothing. He said but I am the police. I am your friend too. I said okay friend then dapped him up and told him my name. He said how about a little gift for the police. I laughed and said man I was just about to ask you the same thing! Then I rolled up the window and drove off.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1680269]On the way back from Boca Chica to Santo Domingo a few minutes ago and I was stopped on the upper malecon (Via Espana) by a couple of National Police in a truck. I had never been stopped by a vehicle before; I had only been stopped by the guys on the motorbikes.

How it happened was I came from behind him and passed at about 70 km/hr while he had his lights on (I know a Black man is never supposed to pass the police.) He then turned his lights off and sped up to catch me. He turned the lights back on when he was directly behind me but I just ignored him. Then he came in the right lane and up to my passenger side and was saying something. I was too busy jamming music to pay attention. I went ahead of him again. He caught back up and I finally pulled over. One came to my side and the other went to my dad's side of the car. He asked for my documents. I said what for? He said some BS that I wasn't even paying attention to. I handed him my phone with my picture of me and the vice president together and asked if I needed to call my friend. He looked at it and asked, "Is that Margarita?" as he passed the phone back. I said it sure is. And she is your friend? I said yep and held the phone to my face so he could see the picture and me at the same time. Then he asked if I was in a rental car. I said it sure is. He said well what are you going to tell her when you call? I said I will say I was on my way to my hotel and some asshole police pulled me over for nothing. He said but I am the police. I am your friend too. I said okay friend then dapped him up and told him my name. He said how about a little gift for the police. I laughed and said man I was just about to ask you the same thing! Then I rolled up the window and drove off.[/QUOTE]He still wanted a bribe? That's the DR for you. Everybody is hungry.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1678809]You have obviously never heard of a sports team called "the Yankees". I thought they were quite well-known.

Anyway, that does not answer my question, but this does (if true):

"Call a Southerner a Yankee and he'll think you're either just plain dumb or that you are trying to pick a fight. ".

Again, I don't know how much truth there is in this:

"To foreigners, a Yankee is an American.

To Americans, a Yankee is a Northerner.

To Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander.

To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter. ".[/QUOTE]My take on this subject would be to change the last 2 items.

"To Easterners, a Yankee is a New Yorker. ".

"To New Englanders, a Yankee is a New Yorker. ".

By the way, I'm from California.

We went to GBP today at 3:30. WOW. What a selection. As soon as I walked in I knew that I wanted the beautiful chocolate girl. I kept cool though and let all the chicks come dance on me, some topless and others bottomless. It's not like back home where they say don't touch the dancers. There you are encouraged to touch. As a matter of fact they themselves will take your hands and rub all over their body. I would have fucked every last one of the girls on selection from today.

Anyway. My dad took his girl first and three minutes later I went ahead and told chocolate vamanos. Her name is Marciel. She said she has been working there 2 weeks. Out of the 1000 fuck fee she gets to keep 600. After we finished the deed she kept staring at me. That made me ask about the time. She said it was 30 minutes. In most other places the girl would have ran up out as soon as you bust.

My dad said he had a great experience as well and if he lived in Santo Domingo he would stop by everyday before going home. He wants to go back before we leave but we have to go to my girl's in Punta Cana tomorrow. What time does GBP open? I have searched several times but none of my searches have been able to pull up a GBP post.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1680601]We went to GBP today at 3:30. WOW.

My dad said he had a great experience as well and if he lived in Santo Domingo he would stop by everyday before going home. He wants to go back before we leave but we have to go to my girl's in Punta Cana tomorrow. What time does GBP open? I have searched several times but none of my searches have been able to pull up a GBP post.[/QUOTE]They open by 2:00 pm, must girls are there by 3:00 pm. I once arrived by 2:00 pm and it was closed, a minute later the first girl, the one I was expecting to see, arrived. We went to a cabana going south on 27 de Febrero, the same Avenue GBP is located.

Does anyone have a link to the monger map in sd? Can't find it, too much bullshit to weed throught thanks!

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?ll=18.480627,-69.965143&ie=UTF8&msa=0&spn=0.009891,0.019248&z=16&mid=zkJpJBI74G4A.kcRRKE_gH90k[/URL]

[QUOTE=Troubleman69;1682651][URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?ll=18.480627,-69.965143&ie=UTF8&msa=0&spn=0.009891,0.019248&z=16&mid=zkJpJBI74G4A.kcRRKE_gH90k[/URL][/QUOTE]Great map. This is top notch. Wish we could put one together for other DR Cities also.

[QUOTE=Troubleman69;1682651][URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?ll=18.480627,-69.965143&ie=UTF8&msa=0&spn=0.009891,0.019248&z=16&mid=zkJpJBI74G4A.kcRRKE_gH90k[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks bro!

[QUOTE=Troubleman69;1682651][URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?ll=18.480627,-69.965143&ie=UTF8&msa=0&spn=0.009891,0.019248&z=16&mid=zkJpJBI74G4A.kcRRKE_gH90k[/URL][/QUOTE]Today I added Pink Lounge Bar and Slip on Me Massage to the map, any other place that needs to be on the map please let me know.

I just booked a trip leaving tomorrow for DR. My first trip there.

I'll be there in SD from tomorrow until the 19th at Europa, then to the 25th at Reina and then headed to the north part of the country for a week.

I've been piecing together a good 7-day SD plan (drinking, nightlife, etc) from reading the reports, but I'm having to weed through a lot of stuff to find the gems I'm looking for.

Can anyone let me know the following:

1. When landing, what is the price of a taxi to where hotel Europa is? Looks like a 20 min ride, but I just need a basic idea or can I just say "turn on the meter" and trust the guys in front of the air port.

2. Anyone know if there are good night clubs there during the week or weekend.

3. Is there any place remotely like Del Rey there or is it mostly parlors in the day and strips clubs at night?

4. Finally, can someone just give me a rule of thumb as far as price goes for the parlors, strip clubs, and the independents (again, is there any place with a lot of independents like Del Rey)?

Sorry for the questions which I can probably research and find, but hopefully I'll just have a small helpful bump in information and I promise to return the favor with my first field report.

The map has a to z info about sd. It has not been updated but is very good. Sd is not easy for newbies. There's no central place to hangout. The will tell where and what's available. Where to eat to where the street walkers are. The key is do not press there plenty girls wanting your cash. Near your hotels you will be approached. So relaxed and do fun things. Go to a mall or casino. They will fine you. Good luck a be confident.

[QUOTE=MikeKelimir;1683402]I just booked a trip leaving tomorrow for DR. My first trip there.

I'll be there in SD from tomorrow until the 19th at Europa, then to the 25th at Reina and then headed to the north part of the country for a week.

I've been piecing together a good 7-day SD plan (drinking, nightlife, etc) from reading the reports, but I'm having to weed through a lot of stuff to find the gems I'm looking for.

Can anyone let me know the following:

1. When landing, what is the price of a taxi to where hotel Europa is? Looks like a 20 min ride, but I just need a basic idea or can I just say "turn on the meter" and trust the guys in front of the air port.

2. Anyone know if there are good night clubs there during the week or weekend.

3. Is there any place remotely like Del Rey there or is it mostly parlors in the day and strips clubs at night?

4. Finally, can someone just give me a rule of thumb as far as price goes for the parlors, strip clubs, and the independents (again, is there any place with a lot of independents like Del Rey)?

Sorry for the questions which I can probably research and find, but hopefully I'll just have a small helpful bump in information and I promise to return the favor with my first field report.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MikeKelimir;1683402]1. When landing, what is the price of a taxi to where hotel Europa is? Looks like a 20 min ride, but I just need a basic idea or can I just say "turn on the meter" and trust the guys in front of the airport.[/QUOTE]DR taxis never have meters and can often overcharge the inexperienced, but I imagine from the airport there will be fixed charges to various parts of the city and a price-list posted.

MIkeKelimir,

I try to answer some of your questions. The Taxi fares from the airport have a set price to SD. The taxies at the airport are controlled by the Dept. of tourism and they have a monopoly, no public transportation going in / out of airport, therefor no competition and the end result is that they rip you off with the fare. They also don't allow taxies from outside to wonder around the airport. Last summer the set fare was 1200 pesos to SD or about 30 dollars. For the 20 minutes is a ripoff. Those taxies are pretty safe to use thought. SD is not the greatest place for a monger newbie. You are not going to find anything like Hotel Del REy in SD or anywhere else in the DR. That Del Rey Hotel is a pretty unique place. Most of the action is SD is in Boca Chica. There is plenty of mongering action in SD too but to find it will require some help or the help of a wingman. Watch the video, it has some useful information about your questions, SD, Boca Chica, and areas in the north like Sosua, Puerto Plata, etc: [URL]http://dominicanrepublic.adultsearch.com/santo-domingo/[/URL].

Enjoy your trip,

Cerebro

[QUOTE=MikeKelimir;1683402]I just booked a trip leaving tomorrow for DR. My first trip there.

I'll be there in SD from tomorrow until the 19th at Europa, then to the 25th at Reina and then headed to the north part of the country for a week.

I've been piecing together a good 7-day SD plan (drinking, nightlife, etc) from reading the reports, but I'm having to weed through a lot of stuff to find the gems I'm looking for.

Can anyone let me know the following:

1. When landing, what is the price of a taxi to where hotel Europa is? Looks like a 20 min ride, but I just need a basic idea or can I just say "turn on the meter" and trust the guys in front of the air port.

2. Anyone know if there are good night clubs there during the week or weekend..[/QUOTE]

I say that to say people must make sure they have a good plan when they come to Santo Domingo. The first thing you have to understand about Santo Domingo is that it is a big city so you must treat it as such. For those of you who do not want to pay for taxi's or hire a driver to take you to multiple locations or the best option I believe is to rent a car you have just limited your options tremendously. I only know of Old Kool and a couple of others who have been able to navigate successfully without a renting a car in Santo Domingo or using a driver. There are a few of you who have wrote about spending time on Venezuela where all the disco's and lounges are, but that is few and far between. Why you would come all the way to Santo Domingo and not be mobile and move around is beyond me. Some will say, but I do not want to pay a taxi driver all night long to take me around they are too expensive. Another reason you might say is I am only here for a short time. Then when things do not work out the way you want it too you cannot be mad or disappointed of the outcome.

I have been listening to the same questions asked all the time and when you realize it costs 24 dollars just to get into Santo Domingo by taxi from the airport. It makes no sense to me why someone does not pay 30 dollars a day using a rent a car so they can drive around and see what the city has to offer, but that is why Santo Domingo has always been for the "big boys". The no planners walk up and down conde street hoping to meet a girl or have to wait until the night to go to the strip club or casa and overpay (good luck gfe) unless they are willing to pay for a taxi to take them to gbp. It might cost more for a taxi and driver to go to gbp then actually to hook up with a women there, but people just do not manage Santo Domingo the right way. Santo Domingo has so much more to offer than casa's, strips clubs and casinos, but you would never know that by the same questions and stories you hear about Santo Domingo. That is why I would never go to Santo Domingo unless I was mobile, but that is just me. I am not paying money to overpay and be bored because I am afraid to rent a car. You will have a better time if you go somewhere else.

A quick story, I was at energy nightclub on Venezuela on a Thursday night not to long ago. Women drink free from 8 to 11 pm. Let me say again, very beautiful non-pro women drink free from 8 -11 pm. Anyway, I was there Chilin with my girl and shortly after 11 pm a white gringo in his 50's comes in and sits down and observes the crowd. He calls over the waiter and I see him speak to two hot girls sitting alone. Long story short, they come over to his table and sit down and he buys a bottle of black label. Later in the night, I look over he looks at me and gives me the nod I am not doing bad and I give him a head nod of approval. Later that night, he walks out holding hands with one of the hot chicks he just met. He knew what some of the people know on this board you have to adjust to your environment to have good time. He knew certain night's women drink free at various clubs early on Venezuela (Euphoria 8-11 pm on Wednesday, Energy Thursday 8 11 pm). Further, the club next to energy has a country western theme and plays hot Latin dance music and women sit at tables drinking beers. I have gone in to this club and bought a couple rounds of beers for women at tables and have met some hot chicks that way by myself. Never afraid to fail, or you can call it having some balls. Now some of you will say, but I do not speak the language well then you need to get a guide that is cool and you pay for a persons drinks all night and all they have to do is to translate for you they are usually very happy. Also, you could put their drivers license on your rental car and have them drive you around. Further, there are smaller bars around the city you should check out. There are casa's in Santo Domingo if you like that option, but that would not be my first option and I am just not in to the pay for play scene been there done that. I like meeting people and really learning about there culture. Now, that is just me and to everyone to each his own. Cape always has stories about meeting good women so they are there, but you have to listen and adjust. Most of us do not go into a job interview unprepared, but you do when it comes visiting Santo Domingo not a good use of cash in my opinion. I just would not fly all the way to Santo Domingo and then try to convince the board you pulled a hot sw because you did not want to pay the casa fee or your dc cupid did not work out and you were able to get lucky. When its raining out and you do not want to get wet you use an umbrella or stay inside you adjust accordingly. But, for Santo Domingo you want it to work the way you want it and then say Santo Domingo is not good sorry my friend you did not adapt to the environment.

Finally, you have to be honest with yourself when you visit Santo Domingo. If you're not willing to learn some Spanish, when you go out look the part, have an inviting and fun personality, willing to create flexibility in moving throughout the city, really do your homework in researching Santo Domingo then do not say it was Santo Domingo's fault you did not have goodtime. Nothing is free in life just how you want to pay for a good time is what matters.

Again, just my 2 cents do not get mad at me just my thoughts, but I just see people that keep making the same mistakes and are to stubborn to realize you cannot do it your way, but understand Santo Domingo is unique and do not waste your time if you are not serious with a good plan. Renting a car eliminates a good plan because i guarantee you will be flexible and move around and you will meet a ton of women that way. Again, it is a big boy town!

I will not drive in SD. No where in the US is the traffic as crazy. Issues like parking, being pulled over and risk of and accident scare the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] out of me. Motor couches, bumper to bumber traffic, pot holes and no signals. I drove there for over a week. I now use cabs with no problem because they know where they are going and I don't. Average trip both ways should be no more then 600 pesos. Like Revere I do not do casas or brothels and do not but I do not have the time to cultivate non pros. I enjoy SD night life but that comes into play on the weekends. Monday to Thursday I am not sure what to do. I like to wife up and do normal stuff you can do in a big city. Malls, movies and restaurants. If I run into a willing non pro sign me up. However that is not what I am searching for. This forum is primarily for guys doing P4 P. I put time in to make my time productive.

I no longer catch the $30 cabs from the airport. There is a local van that can be caught to SD for $2 on the 2nd floor of the airport. It stops in center SD. Right after you change your money walk 80 feet to the exit the local shuttle should be there.

Oldkool,

Is this local van at the airport a new thing? Last summer when I was in the DR, that option was not there. I read some previous post about a local bus on the second floor. I looked everywhere for it and everyone I asked at the airport told me there was no van bus or guagua or other public transportation option to get get out of the SD airport, only the airport taxis. Did you take this van this year or are referring to some previous years?

[QUOTE=OldKool;1683794]I no longer catch the $30 cabs from the airport. There is a local van that can be caught to SD for $2 on the 2nd floor of the airport. It stops in center SD. Right after you change your money walk 80 feet to the exit the local shuttle should be there.[/QUOTE]

I still do not drive in Santo Domingo, but I do keep the cards of Taxi Drivers that I like, and use them to get where I want / need to go. After my first trip to SD, I knew that I wanted to return, andI knew that I had to learn spanish, which I did. I'm not fluent, but the city opens up when you are able to communicate. I'm not much of a dancer here in the US, but I have learned a little Bachata. I still go to a casa every now and then, but mainly to see what talent is available. My dominican phone is full of numbers of chicas that I have met in my 7 trips there. Eventually I will rent a car, because I believe there is more that the city can offer me.

Unlike Uncle OlKool I wouldn't dare tackle SD with out a car. My first time hitting the city I was without for the first 3 days. Its wasn't until the 4th day that I as ready to up the stakes. We (T and I) used a chica that was willing to show us around. The next time a came I was solo in a car. You have to have a New York frame of mind, a navigation device, a general understanding of the city and nuts. Knowing high and low traffic times are very help full. The city becomes more open to me when I have wheels. I am a go with the wind type of guy so I wouldn't do SD no other way.

There are a few places you need to remove: Casa de Modelos, etc.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1683335]Today I added Pink Lounge Bar and Slip on Me Massage to the map, any other place that needs to be on the map please let me know.[/QUOTE]

I like you had read about the gua gua but I think they try to keep tourist in the dark catching cabs. There may even be a prohibiton but I look somewhat Dominican. It was a van and not in bad shape. They through my bag in the trunk off I went. The others on the bus were locals and I am sure I was charged a double rate $3. As for having a car in SD it is much like having NY. Parking and traffic present problems I prefer to avoid. It is risk reward. I to keep a list of decent drivers who I trust. This allows me to go anywhere in the city with little down side. The first time you have a fender bender at night mare can began.

It is a personal choice whether to have a car or not. I just do not trust the DR try to keep things as simle as possible. I use the local transportation and rarely feel limited.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1683825]Oldkool,

Is this local van at the airport a new thing? Last summer when I was in the DR, that option was not there. I read some previous post about a local bus on the second floor. I looked everywhere for it and everyone I asked at the airport told me there was no van bus or guagua or other public transportation option to get get out of the SD airport, only the airport taxis. Did you take this van this year or are referring to some previous years?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1683840]Unlike Uncle OlKool I wouldn't dare tackle SD with out a car. My first time hitting the city I was without for the first 3 days. Its wasn't until the 4th day that I as ready to up the stakes. We (T and I) used a chica that was willing to show us around. The next time a came I was solo in a car. You have to have a New York frame of mind, a navigation device, a general understanding of the city and nuts. Knowing high and low traffic times are very help full. The city becomes more open to me when I have wheels. I am a go with the wind type of guy so I wouldn't do SD no other way.[/QUOTE]Grown man you get it I see how you flow. You can pick up hot chick's on the fly in santo domingo because you have no fear but that is how you have to be there. People want to be with you when you show confidence. I am serious when a hot chick observes a foreign man cool and confident they want to be with you trust me. You get respect I cannot explain maybe you can grown man but it just how it is.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1683825]Oldkool,

Is this local van at the airport a new thing? Last summer when I was in the DR, that option was not there. I read some previous post about a local bus on the second floor. I looked everywhere for it and everyone I asked at the airport told me there was no van bus or guagua or other public transportation option to get get out of the SD airport, only the airport taxis. Did you take this van this year or are referring to some previous years?[/QUOTE]I was at SDQ in January (last month) and I looked for this van. It is at second floor at the exit across united airlines. I did not take it. It waits for passengers and it leaves when it is full. The van was new. I don't know how long it may take to fill the van. But it may be a good option especially if it is almost full.

[QUOTE=Revere;1683906]Grown man you get it I see how you flow. You can pick up hot chick's on the fly in santo domingo because you have no fear but that is how you have to be there. People want to be with you when you show confidence. I am serious when a hot chick observes a foreign man cool and confident they want to be with you trust me. You get respect I cannot explain maybe you can grown man but it just how it is.[/QUOTE]Indeed Revere you said a mouthful. Mr. E has had a lot of run in. Confidents is his game plan. Letting people know you are not intimidated. The every day people of the DR are not as educated but they compensate with street smarts. They look for nervousness, unconfident, and indecisiveness in your overall demeanor. As soon as they see an opening they press to win something out the deal. They may press high to settle where the wanted to get you. Or they may press soft so you can comply faster. This is how the game goes. When I worked in the prison system I would request the worst dorms. My fellow officers love to see me come to work because they knew I would volunteer to go were they dreaded. 1 day my Captain came to my dorm which need 3 officers on the floor but I was solo. He asked me what the hell are you doing bringing them in dope! I made my rank up the hill fast. So many hate BC but that my home base. They know our group will not play the radio so take your bullshit somewhere else. In Sosua its the confidents game that I really impress you and you don't impress me that attracts chicas to me for a lot less with less hassle. You don't have to be a pretty boy- I am not, but I make them feel special. If only for 1 night.

Here on the ground in Santo Domingo now. I have been here 2 nights. It's been great. I'm usually on in SD for a minute. So, I think I will stay one more night before heading to Sosua. Napolitano is pretty good. The service and the view is much better than the room. I think the room at the new wing of New Garden is much better for the money. I hit Oasis both nights. I scored big both times with GFEs. Oasis had an incredible amount of beautiful chicas last night. Before Oasis I hit Satin Dolls, 305, and one other on Pastuer. Very few chicas and nothing that motivated me. I say motivated because there were some beauties there but not the type I was looking for. I have also scored a few numbers from some regular chicas at BluMall but more on that some other time.

Have fun.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1684271]Indeed Revere you said a mouthful. Mr. E has had a lot of run in. Confidents is his game plan. Letting people know you are not intimidated. The every day people of the DR are not as educated but they compensate with street smarts. They look for nervousness, unconfident, and indecisiveness in your overall demeanor. As soon as they see an opening they press to win something out the deal. They may press high to settle where the wanted to get you. Or they may press soft so you can comply faster. This is how the game goes. When I worked in the prison system I would request the worst dorms. My fellow officers love to see me come to work because they knew I would volunteer to go were they dreaded. 1 day my Captain came to my dorm which need 3 officers on the floor but I was solo. He asked me what the hell are you doing bringing them in dope! I made my rank up the hill fast. So many hate BC but that my home base. They know our group will not play the radio so take your bullshit somewhere else. In Sosua its the confidents game that I really impress you and you don't impress me that attracts chicas to me for a lot less with less hassle. You don't have to be a pretty boy- I am not, but I make them feel special. If only for 1 night.[/QUOTE]The hoes don't care if you as confident as a head of state. Or nervous as a bride on wedding night. All they are concerned about is your wallet!

[QUOTE=Lonely566;1684506]The hoes don't care if you as confident as a head of state. Or nervous as a bride on wedding night. All they are concerned about is your wallet![/QUOTE]Indeed. Money will be the end result. I ever said I am getting pussy for free. But what some pay others don't. The drama some get some of us won't. Mongers with keen understanding can back me up on this. If you think that just because you have money and no confidents in your demeanor in the DR that all you need. Newbies don't buy into the crap. Try getting a cab, renting a car, buying a souvenir, dealing with the police, trying to negotiate with a puta, dealing with touts and beggars. Just pull out your wallet and let your money talk- then watch ypur money walk. I understand- see the DR needs people like you. So when she deals with me she knows this ain't the same dumb ass that open his wallet so freely I had yesterday. She may like you even more but she is going to respect me! Like Olkool said, even when dealing with a hardcore puta. You gain her respect she will show your an amazon performance!

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1684657]Indeed. Money will be the end result. I ever said I am getting pussy for free. But what some pay others don't. The drama some get some of us won't. Mongers with keen understanding can back me up on this. If you think that just because you have money and no confidents in your demeanor in the DR that all you need. Newbies don't buy into the crap. Try getting a cab, renting a car, buying a souvenir, dealing with the police, trying to negotiate with a puta, dealing with touts and beggars. Just pull out your wallet and let your money talk- then watch ypur money walk. I understand- see the DR needs people like you. So when she deals with me she knows this ain't the same dumb ass that open his wallet so freely I had yesterday. She may like you even more but she is going to respect me! Like Olkool said, even when dealing with a hardcore puta. You gain her respect she will show your an amazon performance![/QUOTE]The problem is when someone jumps in to the discussion, but is to lazy to read the initial starting point. I specifically said that I am past just being with Lonely's term "hoes" , that Santo Domingo has more to offer than just "hoes". I said again that I am not flying all the way to Santo Domingo to just be with a "hoe". I want a better experience than that. Does not make me any better than anybody else, but at the same time Lonely you said in a previous post you only are with poor girls because nobody else will be with you which is why you say hoes only want what is in you wallet which is true. However, I do not think with just with my wallet and think i can only be with poor girls I have more confidence in myself and do not have to lead with my wallet you do. You said that and admit that is all you can do. That proves what Grownman said that confidence can provide you with a better experience than just your wallet because not everyone is going to treat you well with that mentality. Next time read the starting point of the discussion before you jump in and think you are making a strong statement but is not what we were talking about when explaining being confident in Santo Domingo. It was not based on hoes but an overall better experience in Santo Domingo and having confidence so you did not just have to be with hoes.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1675398]The best hotel deal in SD is Rienas Iabela. $35 gets a nice size room a little dated but chica friendly and right on Calle El Conde. I have stayed all over SD and this place hands down is the best deal I have seen. $5 gets a nice breakfast.[/QUOTE]OldKool,

I tried to book the room with balcony but the rooms are sold out. I got the one with king bed around $40 including taxes / fees. I did not take the standard room because I read somewhere here and / or website reviews that the room was small with no windows. The king size bed room appears to be higher in cost than the standard room. Have you stayed in the king size bed room, and if so, does it have a window? By the way, has anyone on this board had the experience of renting a studio / apartment for a couple of days to about a week in Santo Domingo Are these residences usually girl friendly? How do they compare with putting up in a hotel? Your shared experience greatly appreciated.

Picked up Yarnira from Huigey. This one was also prearranged bike night number two from Dominican Cupid. 23 years old and talked an excellent game about doing everything, loves give oral and take it anally! All she stated she wanted was make up and three bottles of perfume from the US. Picked her up and on the way back to Boca Chica (1.5 hour ride) I should've known immediately that she was kind of a slob by the way she tore off her fake nails and threw them on the floor of the rental car. WTF I decided to hit La Ramona to see the sights and grab a bite to eat. Did not see much that appealed except an Italian restaurant. As soon as we hit La Ramona it was papi take me shopping, take me shopping. I said NO, lesson learned from night two. These chicas just want as much as they can get. She finally excepted the fact I was not taking her shopping after 10 minutes. It was a long ride, so I figured I would test her game and get some road head. She claimed she would not because it would be a distraction for me driving. Okay I had agree with that one, there are some crazy drivers here. She said as soon as we got to the hotel it would be no problem. As soon as we get to the hotel she was reluctant. WTF! She was like how much the narrow are you going to give me. I was like, hey I brought you the gift she wanted, I can take you home right now I don't care but no money! She knew I was a little pissed and told me to hit the bed and she began to work her best. BBBJ was fair and she tried to be extremely sensitive. Eventually she was too hot and wanted some herself. I had brought an HIV test kit because if she was given up the ass I wanted it uncovered. We grab the kit 20 minutes later results were negative. She began to question me to ensure I had taken test and I told her of course that's why I wanted you to have one. We started to get the business and she began to get extremely crazy with the hip action. She must've thought this was the best way to finish the job. It was too crazy. I decided it was time to go bare and hit the anal! She was not able to accomplish the task, claiming pene "tu mucho grande" Hahahaha ok my fault, I thought you said you could!! Nonetheless completed the task and it was about 8:30, still pretty early. Decided to run the store grab some beer and make it an evening in. My guest determined it was time for me to take her out on the town, the evening already was not as promised so I was not putting in any more then I had to. She wanted an elegant dinner and then the disco. She eventually gave him for Burger King and beer on the patio hahahaha. Throughout the evening she kept wanting use me as a footstool and often asked for me to "fetch" her one thing and another, my phone, more beer, and a few other rude things but I forget what they were. This was on top of her being a slob leaving trash throughout the hotel and just make a general mess of everything she touched. As we started to turn in she jumped in the shower. Immediately she came out and wanted more sexo! I said okay it's about time she kicked in for some extra action, but again no " chupar papi pene" WTF! She claimed before that she wanted mucho Leche and did it all. In every hole. Whatever. Afterwards I decided to crash and she decided to watch television. To my dismay she changed channels damn near as fast as you could push the button on the remote. Continuously. I often had to tell her to turn it down because she kept turning the volume up to a ridiculous level. Okay next comes the morning. I awake to a slightly gentle but extremely irritating multiple slap to the face. Again WTF! Here at 6 o'clock in the morning and she wants me to get up and turn on the television because the remote doesn't work anymore and wants me to run to Burger King to get her some breakfast! This is it's fucking crazy, but she Medledy turned it to being nice and kissing my neck and trying to make things better. I got up made me some coffee and send the next room for a while. She again asked for breakfast, I told her in a little while I was going to take shower. She mentioned I did not have to drive her home but she would take the bus. My previous night 1000RD bus fare taught me a lesson to ask about the price from a trusted friend. He mentioned the bus fare was 250. What a deal and I don't have to drive her back. I agreed and quickly ran to Burger King to get fucking breakfast and change to get her on the road! After breakfast she started asking about If I liked her poor mother and if I could give her 3000 pesos to be nice to her mom. Again what the fuck! I told her I had enough. This was about the 10th time she asked for additional money for different items. This time I told her I was done to grab the bus fare and go outside the gate and catch the bus!

Lessons learned;.

1) All these bitches want money!

2) They all have a game plan on how to acquire your money! Even my ex novia in Santiago!

3) If you haven't met them in person. Expect the worst personality.

4) I personally would prefer to spend 1500-2000 for a working girl on Duarte ave, afterwords tell them to leave!

5) If you invite someone from another city, thinking they'll be staying for the night. It might not be a good night!

6) The autobus stop is 20 feet out of Villa Capri's front gate, get lost!

I generally just walk in. I have never had a problem getting a room. I think they charge more if you make a reservation. Most rooms have windows but the wifi varies. Either way I think you will be satisfied.

[QUOTE=Cestme;1685130]OldKool,

I tried to book the room with balcony but the rooms are sold out. I got the one with king bed around $40 including taxes / fees. I did not take the standard room because I read somewhere here and / or website reviews that the room was small with no windows. The king size bed room appears to be higher in cost than the standard room. Have you stayed in the king size bed room, and if so, does it have a window? By the way, has anyone on this board had the experience of renting a studio / apartment for a couple of days to about a week in Santo Domingo Are these residences usually girl friendly? How do they compare with putting up in a hotel? Your shared experience greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TeeBone;1685305]Picked up Yarnira from Huigey. This one was also prearranged bike night number two from Dominican Cupid. 23 years old and talked an excellent game about doing everything, loves give oral and take it anally! All she stated she wanted was make up and three bottles of perfume from the US. Picked her up and on the way back to Boca Chica (1.5 hour ride) I should've known immediately that she was kind of a slob by the way she tore off her fake nails and threw them on the floor of the rental car. WTF I decided to hit La Ramona to see the sights and grab a bite to eat. Did not see much that appealed except an Italian restaurant. As soon as we hit La Ramona it was papi take me shopping, take me shopping. I said NO, lesson learned from night two. ![/QUOTE]Is La Ramona a new city? How far it is from Santo Domingo? It is nicer than La Romana? Was this city created based on the song?

Ramona, ande tas metío?? Donde.

La Ramona es la más gorda de las mozas de mi pueblo.

Ramona te quiero'.

Tiene un globo por cabeza why no se LE ve el pescuezo.

Ramona te quiero'.

Sus piernas son dos columnas, su trasero es un pandero.

Ramona te quiero'.

LE han hecho una cama con 4 vigas de hierro why cuando se acuesta tiembla el suelo de mi pueblo.

LE han hecho una silla en casa del cerrajero con 14 patas pa'que resista su cuerpo.

La Ramona es barrigona, su cuerpo the miedo verlo.

Ramona te quiero'.

La Ramona es pechugona tiene dos cantaros por pechos.

Ramona te quiero'.

El rasborde de Ramona son mas anchos que mi cuerpo.

Ramona te quiero'.

La han hecho un retrato en casa del retratero.

Como era tan gorda solo ha salido medio cuerpo.

Se ha comprao un vestido colorao de terciopelo, hecho de volantes con 100 capas de torero.

Ay Ramona.

La Ramona se ha fugao con el hijo de cartero.

Ramona te quiero.

Como no cabía en el tren se la lleva en un velero.

Ramona te quiero'.

El velero se ha ido a pique por el esceso de peso.

Ramona te quiero'.

Va dando zarpazos pensando en su salvamento, pero no hay cristiano que pueda con tanto peso.

A lo lejos viene un barco de balleneros, han tirao las redes, la remolcan por LOS pelos.

Ña ña ña por ella.

Tomado de [URL]AlbumCancionYLetra.com[/URL].

Creyéndola una ballena la han cazao LOS balleneros.

Ramona te quiero'.

Sentadito en una orilla llora el hijo del cartero.

Ramona te quiero'.

Se ha quedao sin su Ramona por no calcular el peso.

Ramona te quiero'.

Ramona te quiero'.

Ay madre Ramona. Un cacho carne con ojos eso es lo que eres Ramona.

Ramona te quiero'.

Ramona te quiero'.

Ramona te quiero'.

Months ago I read a story similar to yours. Both stories show pictures of the lady. Both ladies, when I see the picture I can read the word "chapeadora" on her face. They both looked hardcore. You are going to have better luck next time for sure.

Damn TeeBone. You drove from Boca Chica to Higuey and back just to pick up a broad? And a broad you didn't know at that. You are a better man than me. If I meet a chick who lives in some far off region then she must make her way to me first unless I just so happen to be passing through that way. No ifs, ands, or buts.

Also, not all women are about money. My experience is the exact opposite. I have been dealing with women in DR for years who I have never given 1 peso to. But when you cast your net for the type of woman who you discuss fucking in the ass bareback and she wants all of your leche before you even meet, what kind of woman would you expect to be getting? A trashy one to say the least.

Be fair, he figured it out in the end and sent her home on the bus. I agree I would never make that round trip drive for a girl I don't even know. Think about how many others you don't know you would pass on the way. Anyway, no one got hurt. That is the important part.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1685414]Damn TeeBone. You drove from Boca Chica to Higuey and back just to pick up a broad? And a broad you didn't know at that. You are a better man than me. If I meet a chick who lives in some far off region then she must make her way to me first unless I just so happen to be passing through that way. No ifs, ands, or buts.

Also, not all women are about money. My experience is the exact opposite. I have been dealing with women in DR for years who I have never given 1 peso to. But when you cast your net for the type of woman who you discuss fucking in the ass bareback and she wants all of your leche before you even meet, what kind of woman would you expect to be getting? A trashy one to say the least.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1685313]I generally just walk in. I have never had a problem getting a room. I think they charge more if you make a reservation. Most rooms have windows but the wifi varies. Either way I think you will be satisfied.[/QUOTE]Thank you, OldKool. I must admit that enjoy your report and value your viewpoints as it concerns mongering in the DT. Like you, from what I deduce from your reporting, I have a comfortable place in this, our hobby, for GFE. I don't know if I'll ever do Sosua but you seem to have a good balance between GFE and the numbers game with it's variety benefits in Sosua. I get the best of mongering when I operate off the GFE platform; making sure that I am generously vague with chicas about my schedule in the DR. I make Santo Domingo my home base when I am in the DR, and I import chicas from the provinces. This way, getting laid is no longer a doubt, and, in addition, the reciprocated joy one gets from watching some of these chicas who may be visiting the capital for the first time. In some instances that I have witnessed, getting in the elevator or on the escalator for the first time. The short term downside is, in most cases, one rarely gets the room / bed expert performance that's expected of a pro. Long term, and with good coaching, the investment usually yields explosive sensual dividends in bed, comparatively.

Like your choices of Villa Capri and the HIV test. But Dude you allow these chica too much control. Those small requests were nothing but control moves. Aint no Dominican chico going to cater to her ass like that. She saw it as a form of weakness and constantly exercised her requests to establish her control. You gave her the gift too fast and then she started the Game. Oh yeah and what's in it for me is what I would have been saying to her. When she told me what she would do gassing me head up for later that when she would get her gifts later. I made some of those same mistakes you made so I speaking from memory lane. If you don't let her no No is not an accept answer to nothing but a one way trip to the nearest bus stop and make her think you mean it watch her attitude change.

Can anyone tell me where the sex toy stores are in Santo Domingo?

I will be staying near the Conde.

Thank you!

We all have our preferences and this makes our hobby great. I love GFE but sport fucking in Sosua has a real exciting flavor. The variety of women is big draw for me. I will have a taste for skinny girl and later a big girl. Nevertheless for good sex there is nothing like having chica who gives total access. DFK and DATY are standard for my GFE girls but with pros not so much. On my last I had a province chica meet me in SD. 4 pops in 12 hours and each was excellent. I could have gone home the next day and been happy with my trip.

One of Sosua challenges is finding a gem who you get to give a little more then you paid for.

[QUOTE=Cestme;1685447]Thank you, OldKool. I must admit that enjoy your report and value your viewpoints as it concerns mongering in the DT. Like you, from what I deduce from your reporting, I have a comfortable place in this, our hobby, for GFE. I don't know if I'll ever do Sosua but you seem to have a good balance between GFE and the numbers game with it's variety benefits in Sosua. I get the best of mongering when I operate off the GFE platform; making sure that I am generously vague with chicas about my schedule in the DR. I make Santo Domingo my home base when I am in the DR, and I import chicas from the provinces. This way, getting laid is no longer a doubt, and, in addition, the reciprocated joy one gets from watching some of these chicas who may be visiting the capital for the first time. In some instances that I have witnessed, getting in the elevator or on the escalator for the first time. The short term downside is, in most cases, one rarely gets the room / bed expert performance that's expected of a pro. Long term, and with good coaching, the investment usually yields explosive sensual dividends in bed, comparatively.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1683335]Today I added Pink Lounge Bar and Slip on Me Massage to the map, any other place that needs to be on the map please let me know.[/QUOTE]Casa de las modelos is no more. Shangri la spa in malecon center is a known massage parlor where chicas will give happy endings for tips.

Slip on me has moved to the front of the building first floor and it is a nice place rooms with jacuzzi and steam rooms are now available. Also where is this oasis place I keep hearing about.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1685414]Damn TeeBone. You drove from Boca Chica to Higuey and back just to pick up a broad? And a broad you didn't know at that. You are a better man than me. If I meet a chick who lives in some far off region then she must make her way to me first unless I just so happen to be passing through that way. No ifs, ands, or buts.

Also, not all women are about money. My experience is the exact opposite. I have been dealing with women in DR for years who I have never given 1 peso to. But when you cast your net for the type of woman who you discuss fucking in the ass bareback and she wants all of your leche before you even meet, what kind of woman would you expect to be getting? A trashy one to say the least.[/QUOTE]Bare-backing any Chica in the ass is really stupid under any circumstances. Sounds like a crack addicted working girl who would take it in the ass uncovered.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1685368]Is La Ramona a new city? [/QUOTE]You cracked me up with "Ramona, te quiero" - had to look up the song in youtube in honor of the gordita.

Does anyone knows a cab driver will take me from Sdq airport to Sosua, and how much?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Woody514;1685507]Can anyone tell me where the sex toy stores are in Santo Domingo?

I will be staying near the Conde.

Thank you![/QUOTE]Buy that shit at home before you go. Unless you are going to Hong Kong they are going to be more expensive pretty much every place you travel to. I get my stuff mostly from the clearance rack or from the loads of merch that they already have that is pretty cheap.

Sosua is 3 and half hour cab ride and cost $200 plus. The bus takes 4 and half hours and cost $8. Do the math. Now if you got money to burn go for it.

[QUOTE=Stebo419;1685871]Does anyone knows a cab driver will take me from Sdq airport to Sosua, and how much?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Woody514;1685507]Can anyone tell me where the sex toy stores are in Santo Domingo?

I will be staying near the Conde.

Thank you![/QUOTE]Although not close strip factory is the most known sex shop it is on Tiradentes in plaza Galerias de naco in front of plaza naco also there is a party store in plaza naco on the left that has a xxx party section.

[QUOTE=Stebo419;1685871]Does anyone knows a cab driver will take me from Sdq airport to Sosua, and how much?

Thanks[/QUOTE]When are you arriving.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1686065]When are you arriving.[/QUOTE]Me and 1 person and maybe another person arriving March 12.

[QUOTE=Woody514;1685507]Can anyone tell me where the sex toy stores are in Santo Domingo?

I will be staying near the Conde.

Thank you![/QUOTE]There is one on the conde, right in the middle. If yur walking toward grands its on your right. Never walk in so I don't know the info.

Was with my dr freak who likes toys. The place was small. Prices were not outrageous. It blew my mind being with a young hottie buying sex toys. E.

[QUOTE=Grandnash84;1686165]There is one on the conde, right in the middle. If yur walking toward grands its on your right. Never walk in so I don't know the info.[/QUOTE]

I have got contact with 5-7 girl from SD (depending on the definition).

The hottest is 18 yo, but her profile says 21, DO20629 on [URL]latineuro.com[/URL].

I met a girl in Colombia, also from Latineuro who had 20 yo / now have 21 yo on her profile, but she was only 17 // CO13724 on [URL]latineuro.com[/URL]// ! I cancelled to meet her until very close to her 18th birthday. Money can never be involed in such cases, since it is illgeal, but sex or "making love" as 2 normal human beings, the age limit is 14 in Colombia. This then Geraldine was a 17.95 yo nynfomanica, travelling around on the weekends invited by foreigners in Medellin, Cartagena etc. She was from Villavicencio, so just leaving that place was an adventure for her. But she did not do it for money and I would not have payed her if she had come up with a claim, but I can instead recommend her, she is a superhot 18 yo girl that come home to you for a weekend and wants to have fun and sex and then she returns home.

Well, the other girls are in their late 20's and all with boobs and ass, natural or silicion, but all voluptuos.

Dominicanas are even more open to have a relationship than are Colombianas.

And there are also a mix, not so good as in Colombia, but there are still white girls to ebony, the later one in mayority, but 50 shades you can say.

Well, I have to go further and see what this little Doll really wants, Money of course and she will get it, but not now, only after having met in real life, which kind of erradicates the difference between client-provider and GF-BF.

I always seem have 3-5 friends in need of money. I help when I feel the money is expendable and we have met in real life and she (might) really need a few bucks to simply survive. But generally Colombians have a very high precentage of claiming your money-girls and this is pestering down whole sites as Colombiancupid!

This young model Doll have skills, she will be smooth and keep me as a "friend", of which she for sure have at least 5 I think, that all, just like me, gets overwhelmed of her sensuality. It's a good business, no risk and no cost, more than loosing worthless time, so this phenomenen creates itself!

Opening up this DR front feels really good, just as Colombia was a revolutionary experience for me after having lived in Buenos Aires and Peru. Both in pure physical attraction but also culture and norms considering relationships, friendship and sex. Colombia sometimes feels like that the girls are so comfortable with themselves being pretty and the men always have something nice to look at, and that the whole society becomes happy of this. And not only looking, girls, pretty girls sometimes goes to attack, which I saw a Youtube about Sosua, that "you are the meat", so probably even more of that wonderful behaviour in DR!

Welcome to the forum fresh eyes are always welcomed. I enjoyed your reports and enthusiasm. Both are very refreshing. MANY GUYS are getting stale including me. Keep us posted and smiling.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1685414]Damn TeeBone. You drove from Boca Chica to Higuey and back just to pick up a broad? And a broad you didn't know at that. You are a better man than me. If I meet a chick who lives in some far off region then she must make her way to me first unless I just so happen to be passing through that way. No ifs, ands, or buts.

Also, not all women are about money. My experience is the exact opposite. I have been dealing with women in DR for years who I have never given 1 peso to. But when you cast your net for the type of woman who you discuss fucking in the ass bareback and she wants all of your leche before you even meet, what kind of woman would you expect to be getting? A trashy one to say the least.[/QUOTE]The only thing they have to support their famly is their pussy. To take it and not give any money is reprehensible!

[QUOTE=Lonely566;1686592]The only thing they have to support their famly is their pussy. To take it and not give any money is reprehensible![/QUOTE]LOL. Now where would you come up with a dumb ass idea that every woman in a country is a hooker? Let me guess. From hanging out with only hookers? Try meeting some normal people for a change.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1686734]LOL. Now where would you come up with a dumb ass idea that every woman in a country is a hooker? Let me guess. From hanging out with only hookers? Try meeting some normal people for a change.[/QUOTE]Mr. pErfect, this is a message board dedicated primarily to p4 p. You are one of the small percentage of people who use message boards such as these to build your own ego. The basic thrust of your post is to prove how great you are and how you get all these woman for free. Get a grip and get a life dude.

[QUOTE=Qualude;1686751]Mr. pErfect, this is a message board dedicated primarily to p4 p. You are one of the small percentage of people who use message boards such as these to build your own ego. The basic thrust of your post is to prove how great you are and how you get all these woman for free. Get a grip and get a life dude.[/QUOTE]Dude what the fuck are you talking about? Ego? I am here reporting P4P just like the next man. You better check the fucking stats. I have reported on P4P in more sections of ISG than anybody else on ISG. But that is not to say that the only way I am able to get pussy is P4P.

It seems like you are the one who needs to get a grip. I am not the one holed up in my room complaining that women where I live don't want to fuck me and jacking off until I can afford the next trip to go buy third world pussy. You are really a sad case if the only way you can get chicks is to pay for them or if you think that every chick has to be given money for their acquaintence. There is a big real world out there that awaits. You should consider joining it.

I am presently in my room jacking off until my next trip to a third world country where I will pay for sex. Wow, these dudes who get all these chicas for free, aren't they amazing? I do believe that they are ladies' men, because they say so.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1686965]I am presently in my room jacking off until my next trip to a third world country where I will pay for sex. Wow, these dudes who get all these chicas for free, aren't they amazing? I do believe that they are ladies' men, because they say so.[/QUOTE]And not only with hoes. Many times the girls I meet / boink refuse money I offer. I insist that they take the money. Stuffing it in their purse or pockets. The girls are so sweet.

Some of them hope I may marry them or whatever. I know I'm not going to marry them and I know most need money for home.

IMHO drawing on my experience. Quite simple to get free pussy. But certainly not right. And certainly not an ego booster. It's simply a crime against the poor.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1686763]Dude what the fuck are you talking about? Ego? I am here reporting P4P just like the next man. You better check the fucking stats. I have reported on P4P in more sections of ISG than anybody else on ISG. But that is not to say that the only way I am able to get pussy is P4P.

It seems like you are the one who needs to get a grip. I am not the one holed up in my room complaining that women where I live don't want to fuck me and jacking off until I can afford the next trip to go buy third world pussy. You are really a sad case if the only way you can get chicks is to pay for them or if you think that every chick has to be given money for their acquaintence. There is a big real world out there that awaits. You should consider joining it.[/QUOTE]You must be a young dude. Pussy is never free. It always comes with some strings attached. Whether that is paying a hooker, paying for a date, dealing with illogical / crazy behavior, marriage, kids, STDs. I can continue listing the possible ways you will pay. It is never free. Women in America are especially prone to bullshit. Getting pussy in America is especially a task for the average man living in an above average town. Average American men are treated equivalent to how the Dominican men are treated in their country (largely marginalized & ignored). This does not apply to young people (late teens / early 20's). The guys / girls haven't fully been jaded yet. Women chase what they perceive as the winning ticket. In a city like New York or Los Angeles that means millionaires, movie stars, music industry types. In the DR that means Tourist who come to fuck. If you are getting pussy it may be because you are; really young, one of the few men who have the charisma to pull off a great bullshit story or you actually have lots of money and look the part. Most guys are not so lucky after age 25-30 something.

I'm 42 and I don't play semantics. When free pussy is spoken of you know good and well that it means not purchased from a prostitute, semi prostitute or anyone that you will compensate for the sole purpose of putting your dick into them. The way you have spoken of it hell even going to work will not be free. You have to buy a car to get there, you need insurance and gas for the car, you have to buy things to put into the lunch you will eat there, you have to buy a pen to write with. So even working working would cost; why even go?

The chick that is next to me in bed now is free pussy. She works at the massage shop that I go to. I had known her for a couple of years before she decided to go out with me at the begining of last year. First date we went to a restaurant. She did not want to eat anything so I ate alone. After that we went to see a movie then came back to my place to drink. Then we fucked. We have not been out since the first time, but she comes over here to spend the night sometimes. I have never given her money. But I guess since I had to answer my phone and use the energy that charged my battery, then I had to walk downstairs to let her in that I am not about to fuck for free. Not to mention the sip of water that she just got out of the refrigerator that costs literally 3 cents for a liter and a half. Oh, and I have the air conditioner on so that costs money too, but that would have been on even if she was not here.

Maybe it's just that my experience with women, along with that of my family and friends, is much different than most guys on this board. For us it is just normal everyday shit. You guys act like it's so far fetched to get a woman without having to pay her or without her expecting money.

Like I said I am 42. My dad is 64. When we went to the DR at the begining of the month we got on the plane and my dad had a window seat next to a bad Dominicana. I had an aisle seat in another row. I hollered at my dad to get her number for me. Well when we got off the plane in Santo Domingo, come to find out that he got her number for him. She lives in Minneapolis and told him that she would come visit him in Atlanta when he wanted. When we were in the immigration line she was breaking her neck waving bye to him. The apple does not fall far from the tree.

Getting chicks runs in my family. My dad, granddad, great granddad. It is just second nature, not some great impossible feat. My mother's mom even shot my granddad for having a side chick. She hid on the floor of his backseat when he went to a chick's house and when they got there she jumped out and popped a cap in his ass with his own gun.

And I got ho stories for days. One of my favorites is when my boy called me up one Saturday saying that he met some married freaks that work at the bank and they wanted to have an orgy. They were going to get a room that night and give us the information. It went down about 11 that night. 5 chicks and 4 dudes. I kept trying to get this chick to fuck in the ass and she was saying no because her man would know. Finally one of my boys start putting dick up in her and her friends talked her into the double penetration. So while he was in the pussy, I was in the ass. But I guess that wasn't free either because I had to use my gas to get to the hotel.

Don't even get me started on the Freaknic days. Let me get out of here before my free pussy decides to leave because I'm not putting dick up in her. Y'all just be sure to use lubrication while choking those chickens.

[QUOTE=ElTremendo;1685945]Although not close strip factory is the most known sex shop it is on Tiradentes in plaza Galerias de naco in front of plaza naco also there is a party store in plaza naco on the left that has a xxx party section.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the information!

I will go there tomorrow.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1687022]I'm 42 and I don't play semantics. When free pussy is spoken of you know good and well that it means not purchased from a prostitute, semi prostitute or anyone that you will compensate for the sole purpose of putting your dick into them. The chick that is next to me in bed now is free pussy.....Getting chicks runs in my family. My dad, granddad, great granddad. It is just second nature... [/QUOTE]Hey man I'm jealous of you. I wish I could get women for free so I would not have to visit a p4 p board to get advice on where to go to pay for sex.

Gents.

I will be on the ground next week. I will do my best to get a full report with specifics about the local shared bus on the second floor. It burns my ass to pay $25-$35 to get to my hotel and back. This $70 could be well spent elsewhere as you could imagine. I am not cheap it is just that this transfer is a disproportionate expenditure compared to the rest of the trip.

I caught the shuttle on my last trip. It was a legion for me until on my last trip I walked upstairs and there it was. I look a little Dominican but the guy charged me twice the normal rate $2.

[QUOTE=FlacoLoco;1687106]Gents.

I will be on the ground next week. I will do my best to get a full report with specifics about the local shared bus on the second floor. It burns my ass to pay $25-$35 to get to my hotel and back. This $70 could be well spent elsewhere as you could imagine. I am not cheap it is just that this transfer is a disproportionate expenditure compared to the rest of the trip.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1686763]Dude what the fuck are you talking about? Ego? I am here reporting P4P just like the next man. You better check the fucking stats. I have reported on P4P in more sections of ISG than anybody else on ISG. But that is not to say that the only way I am able to get pussy is P4P.

It seems like you are the one who needs to get a grip. I am not the one holed up in my room complaining that women where I live don't want to fuck me and jacking off until I can afford the next trip to go buy third world pussy. You are really a sad case if the only way you can get chicks is to pay for them or if you think that every chick has to be given money for their acquaintence. There is a big real world out there that awaits. You should consider joining it.[/QUOTE]This is a website devoted to p4 p, you use it to build your own ego. Most of your post are brag brag and then brag some more. Your post at 12:29 today demonstrates the point. It is nothing but bragging on your part. What does it have to do with p4 p? How does anyone who reads your nonsense benefit by it? Why brag to a bunch of mongers? Whats your point?

I think you are the one without a life. Sit around and type stories and then post them on the internet just so people who do not know you will think you are cool or something. Go get help Mr. PErfect.

[QUOTE=Qualude;1687148]This is a website devoted to p4 p, you use it to build your own ego. Most of your post are brag brag and then brag some more. Your post at 12:29 today demonstrates the point. It is nothing but bragging on your part. What does it have to do with p4 p? How does anyone who reads your nonsense benefit by it? Why brag to a bunch of mongers? Whats your point?

I think you are the one without a life. Sit around and type stories and then post them on the internet just so people who do not know you will think you are cool or something. Go get help Mr. PErfect.[/QUOTE]You can believe what you want from behind your keyboard. The difference is that there are many people on this site who actually know me and can vouch for me. But I do understand that there will always be haters. So I won't worry about it until you STOP talking about me. And just what posts have you written that have anything to do with P4P? You can check this thread, the Sosua thread, the Medellin thread, the Angeles City thread, and the Pattaya thread for just the ones I have written about P4P within the last month.

And to correct you, the purpose of this website according to the owner:

"What is the purpose of this Forum?

The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women." [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/faq.php?faq=faq_general_questions#faq_faq_general_questions_01[/url]

Notice he does not say "men who are looking for PAID sex with women," he only says "men who are looking for sex with women." If you don't like my reports concerning women who don't need to be paid then you are welcomed to skip right over them or ask the forum owner to revamp the purpose statement. There is no need to chime in in hopes of discrediting me because that can not be done son. I'm 100% real with mine. Now go back to beating your meat and complaining about how women where you live won't give you any pussy dude.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1687022]I'm 42 and I don't play semantics. When free pussy is spoken of you know good and well that it means not purchased from a prostitute, semi prostitute or anyone that you will compensate for the sole purpose of putting your dick into them. The way you have spoken of it hell even going to work will not be free. You have to buy a car to get there, you need insurance and gas for the car, you have to buy things to put into the lunch you will eat there, you have to buy a pen to write with. So even working working would cost; why even go?
[/QUOTE]Very fair post. Points well made, I can't disagree with much you said.

In the past I think you made some quick "sound bites" about free pussy that came off as arrogant, but I think you made yourself clear here.

The only thing I'd like you to address is, you talked about getting free pussy back home, a la picking up women at a bar or something. Given that north American women are financially independent and often lack for little, they can indulge in flings, physical gratification, "lust for lust's sake".

When discussing p4 p rates, you often speak of not using standards back home to justify for things abroad, I. E. , "pussy is $250 in NYC so I'm happy with paying $150 in the Santo Domingo" when pussies should be $30 in the DR! I agree with that.

Now, back to free pussy. Given that women in third world mostly live in poverty, and I doubt the women you meet are all lawyers and engineers (case in point, your massage shop girl). Do you think they have the luxury like their first world counterpart, to engage in sexual trysts solely for "recreational purposes"? In other words, if you said yes, aren't you then applying standards back home on women abroad and thus be a little contradictory with your p4 p position?

I'm not looking for an argument here, I actually thought about this some time ago, before this current round of free pussy debate. When I hit on, and hooked up with my DR civilian chica, I took her away from her job for 2 days of beach and cabana debauchery. With the shitty job she has, it's not like she works for the county government and gets "paid personal days" off. When she doesn't work, she doesn't get paid. She'll be short on grocery money, kid's tuition, etc. So I felt compelled to compensate her for her time, and gave her a "wage replacement". Did I make a puta out of her? I don't know. I know, however, that the profile of a bored female executive in a suburban neighborhood who wants some side dick, that's not her either.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1687222]Given that women in third world mostly live in poverty, and I doubt the women you meet are all lawyers and engineers (case in point, your massage shop girl). Do you think they have the luxury like their first world counterpart, to engage in sexual trysts solely for "recreational purposes"? In other words, if you said yes, aren't you then applying standards back home on women abroad and thus be a little contradictory with your p4 p position?[/QUOTE]I don't understand how you are tying people's economic status together with their ability to have recreational sex. There is no luxury in it. Sex is a basic function of people. No matter who you are on this planet, the richest person or the poorest person, you can stick your dick in someone or take dick and make a baby. You don't need any special skills, any college degree, or a certain amount of money in the bank to be able to have sex. So why would the poorest person not be inclined to have sex just as much as the richest? Nobody crosses a certain economic threshold and voila, all of a sudden they can have recreational sex. Like when my cousin was on crack. The people he would be around in crack dens would be down and out financially, psychologically, and even sometimes physically. But you know what? They would still be doing some crazy fucking. Or take for instance when I was in high school. We high school students didn't have a pot to #1 in living under our parents' roofs, but we were still fucking like rabbits.

It seems like you are asserting that women in third world countries would only have sex with a person from a first world country because they would be "compensated" in some way. Sure, if they are a hooker. But there are regular normal everyday women in third world countries who like to have sex just like the regular normal everyday women in first world countries. Also, when you wrote "sexual trysts" it makes it seem like a one time thing. For me, with any non-pro woman on this planet it is never a one time thing, or at least it is not intended to be that way at the start. I develop relationships with these women. Although we may not see each other everyday and it defies the confines of traditional relationships, they are still relationships to say the least. It's not like I am going to the DR, Peru, Brazil, Panama, Colombia, Philippines or Thailand to meet some random chick to fuck once, and afterwards never see her or talk to her again. That is what hookers are for. And you forget that I visit these places several times each year, so I may be seeing them every other month, unlike the guy who would just be there once a year.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1687222]I'm not looking for an argument here, I actually thought about this some time ago, before this current round of free pussy debate. When I hit on, and hooked up with my DR civilian chica, I took her away from her job for 2 days of beach and cabana debauchery. With the shitty job she has, it's not like she works for the county government and gets "paid personal days" off. When she doesn't work, she doesn't get paid. She'll be short on grocery money, kid's tuition, etc. So I felt compelled to compensate her for her time, and gave her a "wage replacement". Did I make a puta out of her? I don't know. I know, however, that the profile of a bored female executive in a suburban neighborhood who wants some side dick, that's not her either.[/QUOTE]Maybe we just look at it different. Some see certain women as poverty stricken when I just see them as women. I am not a differentiator of persons. I treat everyone the same. Why did you feel compelled to compensate her? Because you felt sorry for her? She doesn't need anyone feeling sorry for her and I would never want to be with a woman who I had to feel sorry for. To me it seems like she was with you because she liked you and wanted to be, not because she was hoping you would give her money later.

It reminds me of a girl I posted about in Boca Chica last year. I met her when she was walking down the street. She is not a hooker. She has a nail salon in her house. This chick did my nails several times. I'm not the kind of guy that would ask for a hookup. I believe that if that is her craft then she should be compensated for it. (And that is the same as I have said many times concerning hookers. If she is a hooker and gets paid for sex then I pay her. That is her craft and I don't expect it for free. By that same token, if a hooker went to clipping on my nails, would I be inclined to pay her for the manicure? Hell no, because that is not her craft. The same way I am not inclined to pay non-pros when we have sex; THAT IS NOT THEIR CRAFT!) But this girl would never accept money for doing my nails no matter how hard I tried to force it on her. She said she does it for free for me because she wants to.

I also do not think that you should underestimate your girl. They are able to save their money and do the things that they would like the same way that you do. A couple of my DR chicks are forever going on excursions and chartered trips to different parts of their country. They will also go in with their friends and do the resorts when they have specials. Hell, my girl in Venezuela just hit me up yesterday to say she was going to Panama again next month and wanted to know if I could meet her there. And these are not executive women. These are average everyday chicks.

"The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women". Boasting about getting sex for free and criticizing mongers for only mongering and not getting women for free is not facilitating the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women. However, it does attempt to build the ego of some nondescript individual on a sex board.

[QUOTE=DrBadBoy;1686990] In the DR that means Tourist who come to fuck. If you are getting pussy it may be because you are; really young, one of the few men who have the charisma to pull off a great bullshit story or you actually have lots of money and look the part. [/QUOTE]If someone is really rich, he can get women (even the exotic ones) sitting in NYC or similar. No need to travel but you PAY even if you are powerful. (as you say directly or indirectly. Case in point the Attorney General in NY?

On the other hand, people who travel for women, are typically older and retired but mostly visit third world places because that is where an exchange of money for sex is prevalent (it is the economy stupid! Denying this is because you live in a parallel universe and let no one tell me how great a Lothario you are or how good you are at schmoozing. Women or cops.

And, if neither old nor retired with a pension and you travel incessantly around the globe, you have held a military job and are living on Government payouts which affords you the third world women and the silly bragging right.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1687339]"The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women". Boasting about getting sex for free and criticizing mongers for only mongering and not getting women for free is not facilitating the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women. However, it does attempt to build the ego of some nondescript individual on a sex board.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;1687065]Hey man I'm jealous of you. I wish I could get women for free so I would not have to visit a p4 p board to get advice on where to go to pay for sex.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;1686965]I am presently in my room jacking off until my next trip to a third world country where I will pay for sex. Wow, these dudes who get all these chicas for free, aren't they amazing? I do believe that they are ladies' men, because they say so.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Turgid;1670378]How dare you disparage Sosua. Sosua is a prime mongering destination:

(1) The girls only cry 'leche papi' because they want to ensure that you climax which is the high point of any sexual encounter. To have sex and not orgasm can be very frustrating. They have your interest at heart.

(2) Medellin does not have a beach and does not have that relaxing ambience that Sosua has.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Turgid;1675744]For the record:

(a) From center of Frankfurt to FKK and back by taxi depends on FKK but more or less..... 80 Euros.[/QUOTE]Dude. Why are you continuing to ride my dick? Every post that I write you have some smart ass comment to say about it. We get it by now that you are offended by people who can get sex through means other than paying women. It's time for you to get off my dick and tell your ***** to come here. And while you are at it put me on your ignore list so you won't be forced to read a post by a guy who is not hard up for pussy. And just where is any trip report that has been written by you? 196 posts and 0 trip reports. You dirty troll. Somebody please give this guy another hooker report for him to beat his meat to so he can stop jocking me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1687407]Dude. Why are you continuing to ride my dick? Every post that I write you have some smart ass comment to say about it. We get it by now that you are offended by people who can get sex through means other than paying women. It's time for you to get off my dick and tell your ***** to come here. And while you are at it put me on your ignore list so you won't be forced to read a post by a guy who is not hard up for pussy. And just where is any trip report that has been written by you? 196 posts and 0 trip reports. You dirty troll. Somebody please give this guy another hooker report for him to beat his meat to so he can stop jocking me.[/QUOTE]Snap out of it Mr. E, the point that you apparently haven't gotten yet is that anyone can say anything on a puta board including "I get women for free", "I'm for real" and "I got tons of oversexed ancestors". What mongers want to know is where the pussy at. Now until I get some good info, excuse me, I got to go jack off, you were too kind, I'm an ugly perverted dirty old troll.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1687279]I don't understand how you are tying people's economic status together with their ability to have recreational sex. There is no luxury in it. Sex is a basic function of people.[/QUOTE]Well here's Steve Martin's view of it: "I believe that sex is one of the most beautiful, natural, wholesome things that money can buy".

[QUOTE=TheCane;1687458]Well here's Steve Martin's view of it: "I believe that sex is one of the most beautiful, natural, wholesome things that money can buy".[/QUOTE]Well said.

Mr E I have nothing against you but it does seem odd that you would be paying for sex in addition to getting it for free. Whats that about?

Anybody who can get sex for free should not be on a P4P sex board or paying for sex, IMO.

It seems counter intuitive.

Historically, I have went through feast or famine periods. When pussy was abundant in the USA, I did not waste my time and money traveling overseas. When it was famine in the USA, I made sure to hop a flight to some far off destination for pussy. With most US women, I find getting pussy to be filled with headaches and drama. The pro-women / anti men culture and mindset in the US is not to my liking. I would bet that the majority of people on this board would not fly all over the world if they could get what they want in their home country.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1687426]Snap out of it Mr. E, the point that you apparently haven't gotten yet is that anyone can say anything on a puta board including "I get women for free", "I'm for real" and "I got tons of oversexed ancestors". What mongers want to know is where the pussy at. Now until I get some good info, excuse me, I got to go jack off, you were too kind, I'm an ugly perverted dirty old troll.[/QUOTE]+1 , just read Mr. pErfects post from yesterday (2/25) at 12:29 pm and that sort of tells his story. Essay after Essay with no information value on bragging. What a joke! Over 4,600 post and or essays and he calls others trolls. Some folks get it some don't and Mr. pErfect clearly does not.

I went to Ohio for a business trip for 1 month. All I got to brag about are text messages and few dinner dates. Out of the 7 girls who gave me their numbers, only met 2 me outside of the bar on dates. And one of the two came to my hotel and I still didn't bang her because she said she is not that kind of girl. I haven't talked to her for 2 weeks now because I will most likely not go back to Ohio. I probably spent close to $500. For drinks and dates. Sometimes you have to buy a girl a drink to get her number.

Now if I had gone to the DR. I will have been having pussy every night or any time I want.

I am in my early 30's and has P4P for few years now. Why? Because I love sex and love to try new pussy. I have a fiancee and few side chicks that I keep on my rotation.

But at the end of the day P4P gives me the ability to get a nut and decide whether I should let the girl go or let her spend the night with me.

I can get free pussy in the USA but I am not patient enough to play that game all the time. You have to entertain women, spend money on dates etc. On average I will say.

I spend 100 on a girl before getting into her pants. Mind that after having sex with a girl, it easier to keep banging her if you are single and has nothing to hide.

I hate P4P in the USA because its more risky. I don't do streetwalkers, and with Backpage or craigslist you have to worry about pimps and most of the time you will be rushed.

Conclusion: Pussy isn't free. A lawyer or Engineer in the USA can give you free pussy after you take her to nice restaurant and show her you are what she is looking for. I avoid.

Those women because I have a girl already and don't need to impress other women with expensive tastes. I rather hunt the type of girl that lives pay check to pay check. Having a nice house, nice car, and nice hotel room can get you free pussy with a broke girl. It get even better if you can pay her gas sometimes, get her something to eat. I have a girl that I have known for 5 years now. She has two kids, good looking, nice body. And live above her means. Every 3 months she will borrow some money from me. She knows I have a girl but she knows I am probably the only person she can call to borrow $500 to cover her rent. I am like a credit card for her. She always give me back my money and I can stop at her house a bang her anytime I want to. Her kids know me and I even buy them gifts for birthdays. Is it free busy? Some will say yes. But I know its not. We both get something we need. Trust me guys if the locals in the DR had as much money as us those girls won't even be looking at us.

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Conclusion: Pussy isn't free. A lawyer or Engineer in the USA can give you free pussy after you take her to nice restaurant and show her you are what she is looking for. I avoid.

Those women because I have a girl already and don't need to impress other women with expensive tastes. I rather hunt the type of girl that lives pay check to pay check. Having a nice house, nice car, and nice hotel room can get you free pussy with a broke girl. It get even better if you can pay her gas sometimes, get her something to eat. I have a girl that I have known for 5 years now. She has two kids, good looking, nice body. And live above her means. Every 3 months she will borrow some money from me. She knows I have a girl but she knows I am probably the only person she can call to borrow $500 to cover her rent. I am like a credit card for her. She always give me back my money and I can stop at her house a bang her anytime I want to. Her kids know me and I even buy them gifts for birthdays. Is it free busy? Some will say yes. But I know its not. We both get something we need. Trust me guys if the locals in the DR had as much money as us those girls won't even be looking at us.[/QUOTE]Durandpaul we are living mirror lives. I agree with it all.

[QUOTE=Durandpaul;1687638]I went to Ohio for a business trip for 1 month. All I got to brag about are text messages and few dinner dates. Out of the 7 girls who gave me their numbers, only met 2 me outside of the bar on dates. And one of the two came to my hotel and I still didn't bang her because she said she is not that kind of girl. I haven't talked to her for 2 weeks now because I will most likely not go back to Ohio. I probably spent close to $500. For drinks and dates. Sometimes you have to buy a girl a drink to get her number.

Now if I had gone to the DR. I will have been having pussy every night or any time I want.

I am in my early 30's and has P4P for few years now. Why? Because I love sex and love to try new pussy. I have a fiancee and few side chicks that I keep on my rotation.

But at the end of the day P4P gives me the ability to get a nut and decide whether I should let the girl go or let her spend the night with me.

I can get free pussy in the USA but I am not patient enough to play that game all the time. You have to entertain women, spend money on dates etc. On average I will say.

I spend 100 on a girl before getting into her pants. Mind that after having sex with a girl, it easier to keep banging her if you are single and has nothing to hide.

I hate P4P in the USA because its more risky. I don't do streetwalkers, and with Backpage or craigslist you have to worry about pimps and most of the time you will be rushed.

Conclusion: Pussy isn't free. A lawyer or Engineer in the USA can give you free pussy after you take her to nice restaurant and show her you are what she is looking for. I avoid.
[/QUOTE]Excellent post bro. Story of my life!

I am posting this in the Opinions American Women section. 5 Stars!

[QUOTE=OldKool;1687122]I caught the shuttle on my last trip. It was a legion for me until on my last trip I walked upstairs and there it was.[/QUOTE]Where exactly? Can you be more specific?

Thanks.

Flaco.

[QUOTE=Durandpaul;1687638] Trust me guys if the locals in the DR had as much money as us those girls won't even be looking at us.[/QUOTE]I have met three young women in Santiago, DR, who were of different caliber, one bought a book for me as a gift, another a Law student and the third a Medical student, both at a selective private catholic uni. The last, I first met at a McDonald and was able to speak English well. And as we were speaking, her dad came in with a large Toyota SUV -brand new, which costs more than chump change there. All three would speak of long term which was / is of no use to me as I do not lie to young women. About future potential, to get into their pants. Anyone claiming otherwise, lives in a parallel universe, smokes something, or selling.

A dream to the women of meager resources in the third world.

[QUOTE=FlacoLoco;1688118]Where exactly? Can you be more specific?

Thanks.

Flaco.[/QUOTE]You walk up the stairs to 2nd floor and make a right turn, walk towards the end take the last exit to outside across united airlines, the shuttle / van is right at the curb in front of exit.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1688157]I have met three young women in Santiago, DR, who were of different caliber, one bought a book for me as a gift, another a Law student and the third a Medical student, both at a selective private catholic uni. The last, I first met at a McDonald and was able to speak English well. And as we were speaking, her dad came in with a large Toyota SUV -brand new, which costs more than chump change there. All three would speak of long term which was / is of no use to me as I do not lie to young women. About future potential, to get into their pants. Anyone claiming otherwise, lives in a parallel universe, smokes something, or selling.

A dream to the women of meager resources in the third world.[/QUOTE]Wow, T, you are really meeting some quality women.

[QUOTE=DCups;1688208]Wow, T, you are really meeting some quality women.[/QUOTE]What's the point? I ain't looking for a "girlfriend" let alone anything even longer than that. It is good enough to have a short term, perhaps mid term understanding, with people who as DurandPaul says are "hungry" so the deal is clean and clear for all. Indeed you may meet, if you ever go there, LOL, some of those connections.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1688157]I have met three young women in Santiago, DR, who were of different caliber, one bought a book for me as a gift, another a Law student and the third a Medical student, both at a selective private catholic uni. The last, I first met at a McDonald and was able to speak English well. And as we were speaking, her dad came in with a large Toyota SUV -brand new, which costs more than chump change there. All three would speak of long term which was / is of no use to me as I do not lie to young women. About future potential, to get into their pants. Anyone claiming otherwise, lives in a parallel universe, smokes something, or selling.

A dream to the women of meager resources in the third world.[/QUOTE]Tempoecorto,

Its good to have principles. I respect you for that. All those three girls had an agenda. Don't think you are the only predator. They can be trying to sell you a dream too. They may want to get married, hoping to come to the US. Then when they get here they will reunite with an ex boyfriend. Never think you are in control with women (This is just an example to make my point).

I would tell you a little more about me. My mom is African American and my dad is African. I grew up in Africa but I have traveled to the US or Europe every summer when I was young. In Africa I am in the upper class (I am nobody in the US LOL). The kind of girl I grew up with or I hang with back in Africa would not be impressed with a dress, perfume, iPhone etc. I am talking about the daughter of a politician or businessman. They won't be impressed to meet a foreigner, but they will be open to get to know a foreigner to see if he is a good catch. They can buy you a gift. They may not have a job, but they got dad allowance and don't have to pay bills as long as they live with dad. She may offer to pick you up driving a range rover or bmw. She will be offended or disgusted if she sees you with a P4P woman. That's like telling a girl in Santo Domingo that you are going to Sosua. I won't make that mistake again.

The main problem in the third world for young people is employment and opportunities for young people. Where I am from you have to be at least 40 for people to take you seriously. Its even harder for women to get jobs. In some countries society doesn't respect women who live by themselves. Most of the time women have to stay with parents up to when they get married. Some even have curfews. There is also pressure on women to find a husband that can be a good provider. A lady from a rich and educated family would want to marry a man from the same background and social status (makes sense. Everybody want to upgrade not downgrade). However, not all young men from the same background and social status are eligible bachelor. Some don't have jobs or don't have good paying jobs and still live with their parents (its normal in third world countries to live with parents if you don't have a job. You get kicked out in the US LOL). No jobs and no retirement plan make it hard for young people to get jobs.

A foreigner in every third world country is an eligible bachelor economically speaking. The only check left is to know if you are serious about getting married or getting into a serious relationship. That's why those girls conduct interviews and will try to use the pussy as a weapon. She will paint herself as a nice girl, tired of the BS, that she is looking for the man of her life.

At the end of the day. Anytime you go in a poor country, see yourself as an easy target from PROs and Non PROs. Being White or looking different increases your chances of being spotted in public without even saying a word. I won't even entertain going to monger in Haiti, Jamaica or any country with a black population as the majority. Why? Because I am black. I will lose the differentiation advantage and will have to be hunter instead of being the prey. One thing I like about Sosua was that the town is so small that people knew I wasn't not from Haiti or a local. I asked few people in Sosua how they knew I was a foreigner. They said everybody know each.

[QUOTE=Durandpaul;1688393]Tempoecorto,

Don't think you are the only predator. They can be trying to sell you a dream too. They may want to get married, hoping to come to the US. Then when they get here they will reunite with an ex boyfriend. Never think you are in control with women (This is just an example to make my point).



A foreigner in every third world country is an eligible bachelor economically speaking.
At the end of the day. Anytime you go in a poor country, see yourself as an easy target from PROs and Non PROs. Being White or looking different increases your chances of being spotted in public without even saying a word. [/QUOTE]Real Life Sobering Words.

[QUOTE=Durandpaul;1687638]
Every 3 months she will borrow some money from me. She knows I have a girl but she knows I am probably the only person she can call to borrow $500 to cover her rent. I am like a credit card for her. She always give me back my money and I can stop at her house a bang her anytime I want to. Her kids know me and I even buy them gifts for birthdays. Is it free busy? Some will say yes. But I know its not. We both get something we need. Trust me guys if the locals in the DR had as much money as us those girls won't even be looking at us.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you have a nice thing going with this lady I am happy you are able to help her when she needs it and you actually get it back.

I think of the money factor every trip to the DR. It has to really suck for all those poor men living there watching some stupid gringo come and take the best looking little ho right out from under him over a few fucking dollars. Each trip I am a little more careful of the peoples feelings I am dealing with. Most of us on here live and operate in a much larger area than the people of the DR. What I am getting to is that more than likely if you keep visiting the DR you will run into people you have already dealt with and they have feelings. Best thing is to respect all.

[QUOTE=Grub1;1688640]
I think of the money factor every trip to the DR. [b]It has to really suck for all those poor men living there watching some stupid gringo come and take the best looking little ho right out from under him over a few fucking dollars.[/b] Each trip I am a little more careful of the peoples feelings I am dealing with. Most of us on here live and operate in a much larger area than the people of the DR. What I am getting to is that more than likely if you keep visiting the DR you will run into people you have already dealt with and they have feelings. Best thing is to respect all.[/QUOTE]Honestly, there are only but a very tiny fraction of Dominicanos that witness this, and it is mostly the Dominicanos that hang around Sosua or Boca Chica.

There is no other place in the DR in where Gringos are scooping up Dominicanas en mass in front of the men living there. Definitely not in the barrios, Santo Domingo, Santiago, Bani, etc.

Dominicanos are still fucking Dominican women left and right, regardless of their financial situation. It's not like the women there are sitting around with their legs crossed waiting for the next airplane full of tourists to arrive. They certainly aren't in San Francisco de Macoris.

[QUOTE=Durandpaul;1688393]All those three girls had an agenda. Don't think you are the only predator. They can be trying to sell you a dream too. They may want to get married, hoping to come to the US. Then when they get here they will reunite with an ex boyfriend.

The main problem in the third world for young people is employment and opportunities for young people.
[/QUOTE]One of the three young women in my story, got married to a Dominican about my age (with a US residency) and contacted me about six months back. She now has a baby and lives about an hour's drive away, with the man and his mom and sister. Getting out of her morass was always her plan and which is perfectly logical: we all want to go up the ladder. I am aware of the equation as I presume most of us; I do not see it as a predator prey thing, in either direction but just an event that has evolved in human societies over millennia a quid pro quo if you will.

My harangue was meant for those that do not remember that quid pro quo and assign their claim to fame to their charisma rather than the lack of economic opportunity you mention.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1688645]

Dominicanos are still fucking Dominican women left and right, regardless of their financial situation.... certainly aren't in San Francisco de Macoris.[/QUOTE]Very true and truer for the new crops. All young women "fall in love" and give it away and then when they discover pregnancy, they grow up to face the reality in a place where jobs are hard to come by. As far as SFM, I was there on a number of occasions, most would barely look at you when you try to strike up a conversation in a park or street. Granted, I have no special ability to woo but also, they are evidently as you say, pleased with what the local men offer.

[QUOTE=Durandpaul;1688393]Tempoecorto,

Its good to have principles. I respect you for that. All those three girls had an agenda. Don't think you are the only predator. They can be trying to sell you a dream too. They may want to get married, hoping to come to the US. Then when they get here they will reunite with an ex boyfriend. Never think you are in control with women (This is just an example to make my point).

I would tell you a little more about me. My mom is African American and my dad is African. I grew up in Africa but I have traveled to the US or Europe every summer when I was young. In Africa I am in the upper class (I am nobody in the US LOL). The kind of girl I grew up with or I hang with back in Africa would not be impressed with a dress, perfume, iPhone etc. I am talking about the daughter of a politician or businessman. They won't be impressed to meet a foreigner, but they will be open to get to know a foreigner to see if he is a good catch. They can buy you a gift. They may not have a job, but they got dad allowance and don't have to pay bills as long as they live with dad. She may offer to pick you up driving a range rover or bmw. She will be offended or disgusted if she sees you with a P4P woman. That's like telling a girl in Santo Domingo that you are going to Sosua. I won't make that mistake again.

The main problem in the third world for young people is employment and opportunities for young people. Where I am from you have to be at least 40 for people to take you seriously. Its even harder for women to get jobs. In some countries society doesn't respect women who live by themselves. Most of the time women have to stay with parents up to when they get married. Some even have curfews. There is also pressure on women to find a husband that can be a good provider. A lady from a rich and educated family would want to marry a man from the same background and social status (makes sense. Everybody want to upgrade not downgrade). However, not all young men from the same background and social status are eligible bachelor. Some don't have jobs or don't have good paying jobs and still live with their parents (its normal in third world countries to live with parents if you don't have a job. You get kicked out in the US LOL). No jobs and no retirement plan make it hard for young people to get jobs.

A foreigner in every third world country is an eligible bachelor economically speaking. The only check left is to know if you are serious about getting married or getting into a serious relationship. That's why those girls conduct interviews and will try to use the pussy as a weapon. She will paint herself as a nice girl, tired of the BS, that she is looking for the man of her life.

At the end of the day. Anytime you go in a poor country, see yourself as an easy target from PROs and Non PROs. Being White or looking different increases your chances of being spotted in public without even saying a word. I won't even entertain going to monger in Haiti, Jamaica or any country with a black population as the majority. Why? Because I am black. I will lose the differentiation advantage and will have to be hunter instead of being the prey. One thing I like about Sosua was that the town is so small that people knew I wasn't not from Haiti or a local. I asked few people in Sosua how they knew I was a foreigner. They said everybody know each.[/QUOTE]Some good points added to the discussion. Mr. Enternational makes some good points about not ignoring the fact that there may be poor women everywhere who are just horny and want some sex, but I am also inclined to think that he has a tendency to misinterpret situations, too.

He is commendably honest about posting about some of his pratfalls in the DR such as refusing to pay the ITBIS at a restaurant, misunderstanding Spanish phrases, and so on, but I always remember one of his earliest posts on this board where he went to Sosua and picked up a girl from one of the hooker bars, took her for the night, and then did not want to pay her in the morning as he had believed that she was one of those horny good time girls who just wanted to have fun.

If someone who was aware of this board went to one of the hemisphere's best-known centers for prostitution and picked up a girl in a known hooker bar and took still did not realize that she was P4 P, how much can we value his interpretation of other situations?

As indicated above, he may not have known that the girl was a hooker, but she sure knew that he was a foreign tourist (and therefore in possession of disposable income.).

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1688683]One of the three young women in my story, got married to a Dominican about my age (with a US residency) and contacted me about six months back. She now has a baby and lives about an hour's drive away, with the man and his mom and sister. Getting out of her morass was always her plan and which is perfectly logical: we all want to go up the ladder. I am aware of the equation as I presume most of us; I do not see it as a predator prey thing, in either direction but just an event that has evolved in human societies over millennia a quid pro quo if you will.

My harangue was meant for those that do not remember that quid pro quo and assign their claim to fame to their charisma rather than the lack of economic opportunity you mention.[/QUOTE]I see your point now. Claiming fame to charisma is a little out of touch with reality in a poor country. My using of the words prey and predator is probably how I see the world. We all have different ways of seeing things.

I have not seen any GBP reports in a while. Does anyone know if it is still operating?

Showdown.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1688213]What's the point? I ain't looking for a "girlfriend" let alone anything even longer than that. It is good enough to have a short term, perhaps mid term understanding, with people who as DurandPaul says are "hungry" so the deal is clean and clear for all. Indeed you may meet, if you ever go there, LOL, some of those connections.[/QUOTE]Understood. Wild horses could not keep me from going there in junio.

It is still operating.

[QUOTE=Showdown;1689133]I have not seen any GBP reports in a while. Does anyone know if it is still operating?

Showdown.[/QUOTE]

I understand that the Sol Melia Casino is closed. Are there any good casinos left?

Jaruaga was not the cleanest. I haven't been there in 3 years, but coming next week.

The Hilton was closed the last time I was there.

Thanks.

I'm not a big Casino guy but a friend of mine goes to the Espana, which is farther down on the Malecon. I'm not sure if that is the correct spelling but you can't miss it. It's on the right hand side near Alma Mater where the gas stations are.

[QUOTE=Score77;1693249]I understand that the Sol Melia Casino is closed. Are there any good casinos left?

Jaruaga was not the cleanest. I haven't been there in 3 years, but coming next week.

The Hilton was closed the last time I was there.

Thanks.[/QUOTE].

The places are so small they can not afford to lose.

M.

[QUOTE=JJ341;1693476]I'm not a big Casino guy but a friend of mine goes to the Espana, which is farther down on the Malecon. I'm not sure if that is the correct spelling but you can't miss it. It's on the right hand side near Alma Mater where the gas stations are.

.[/QUOTE].

Take a right on Lincoln after the Hotel Santo Domingo. It's called the Hispanol. They are small aren't they Old Kool.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1693522]The places are so small they can not afford to lose.

M.

.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Score77;1693249]I understand that the Sol Melia Casino is closed. Are there any good casinos left?

Jaruaga was not the cleanest. I haven't been there in 3 years, but coming next week.

The Hilton was closed the last time I was there.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Jaragua casino was remodeled after your last visit.

First I want to say you all have provided a tremendous amount of information and it's greatly appreciated.

This will be my first time going to the DR and I'll be going to Santo Domingo. It is a business trip for about a week. Going through all the posts I've pretty much figured out entertainment costs 2-3 k DP potentially for over nights plus any drinks, etc. Daily meal cost around 40 usd.

So the question comes down to where to stay. Being a company paid trip all travel expenses are paid on a corporate amex so cost of the hotel isn't in question unless they don't take amex.

A lot has been said about Jaragua but I know it has been closed but reopening under Marriott. The question is are they still going to be chica friendly?

Another under consideration is Riazor in the same area.

Optionally I'm looking at El Conde area because I will not be renting a car so walking distance has to be taken into consideration. In this area I'm not really sure what would be the best option. Is Reina a good choice?

I could really use some advice on best place, chica friendly with plenty to do and see nearby as well as plenty of chica options.

And a little about me I'm a 46 year old gringo that speaks very very little Spanish.

Santo Domingo.

A few weeks ago I went to Santo Domingo. Usually, I stay at the Jaragua but it is closed during renovations so I stayed at the Napolitano Hotel. The cost was $90.00 a night including breakfast. There's a nice pool, a restaurant 2 bars and a little Casino. The Napolitano is chica friendly with no additional charge for guests. During my stay I brought a few buddies to the pool and they didn't have to pay.

They have live entertainment at least 3 times a week which is heavily attended by locals. It's a good hotel. A little outdated but as far as I know it's the only big hotel on the Malecon that is completely guest friendly and has the aforementioned amenities.










[QUOTE=WorkingTravlr;1695472]First I want to say you all have provided a tremendous amount of information and it's greatly appreciated.

This will be my first time going to the DR and I'll be going to Santo Domingo. It is a business trip for about a week. Going through all the posts I've pretty much figured out entertainment costs 2-3 k DP potentially for over nights plus any drinks, etc. Daily meal cost around 40 usd.

So the question comes down to where to stay. Being a company paid trip all travel expenses are paid on a corporate amex so cost of the hotel isn't in question unless they don't take amex.

A lot has been said about Jaragua but I know it has been closed but reopening under Marriott. The question is are they still going to be chica friendly?

Another under consideration is Riazor in the same area.

Optionally I'm looking at El Conde area because I will not be renting a car so walking distance has to be taken into consideration. In this area I'm not really sure what would be the best option. Is Reina a good choice?

I could really use some advice on best place, chica friendly with plenty to do and see nearby as well as plenty of chica options.

And a little about me I'm a 46 year old gringo that speaks very very little Spanish.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Grub1;1688640]It has to really suck for all those poor men living there watching some stupid gringo come and take the best looking little ho right out from under him over a few fucking dollars.[/QUOTE]Guys on motos are fucking finer women than most sex tourists will ever see. It's rare to see a sex tourist with what is considered the cream of the crop by Dominican standards. Girls with kids, black barrio girls, Haitians, etc. . What is mostly in areas like Sosua and Boca Chica. Most Dominicans are not losing sleep over this. Low budget cueros that local dudes are fucking for free or salon money are getting 3 or 4 times that amount from gringos. That's OK too because sex tourists come and go but the local dudes are going to be a part of the chica's real social network. They will be drinking and partying off of some gringos Western Union payments.

We do not care who the girls fuck when we are not there or how they spend the money we pay them. If I wanted the so called cream of the crop I would go some where else. What we want are 20 year old pussy that will suck your dick on command. I am very satisfied with the Sosua putas in my bed. If the moto boys can get some top shelf puss good for them. If they have a girl who will spend the money I gave her on him I will not loose any sleep. In the good old USA I do not get to bang attractive 20 year old girls for $35 a pop. We are not going loose any sleep over who the moto boys fuck or if Dominicans are concerned about who I fuck but thanks for the concern.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1695620]Guys on motos are fucking finer women than most sex tourists will ever see. It's rare to see a sex tourist with what is considered the cream of the crop by Dominican standards. Girls with kids, black barrio girls, Haitians, etc. . What is mostly in areas like Sosua and Boca Chica. Most Dominicans are not losing sleep over this. Low budget cueros that local dudes are fucking for free or salon money are getting 3 or 4 times that amount from gringos. That's OK too because sex tourists come and go but the local dudes are going to be a part of the chica's real social network. They will be drinking and partying off of some gringos Western Union payments.[/QUOTE]

I arrived at Las Americas at 12 AM, Jetblue 109,in what for me is a record time of 3 hours 1 minute. As boarding at JFK was announced, four burly white guys dressed as construction workers with hoodies, denins, boots and baseball caps that had been sitting by the gate positioned them selves by the end of the jet way and announced a currency check. I was asked how much I had with me and then to write that amount in a form they produced. One of them did empty my shoulder bag and slowly checked everything, then he counted all my cash and the pesos I had, while asking me if I was aware of the $10000 rule and many others about my activities down here. As I answered a call from my wife I was told to hang up. He then asked me to sign the form saying that no money was taking from me. They did the same with many other passengers, there were only 56,men and women. At no point they identified themselves and only when I asked they said USCBP. I have flown hundreds of times and several times I have been asked if I had more than the limit but never experienced this level of scrutiny. I don't know if this was a result of a tip or if it is going to be the new normal. In any case, this action is more at home in a banana republic or in a police state. Sadly I believe we are going that way with an unprecedental intrusion in our privacy.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1695620]Guys on motos are fucking finer women than most sex tourists will ever see. It's rare to see a sex tourist with what is considered the cream of the crop by Dominican standards. Girls with kids, black barrio girls, Haitians, etc. . What is mostly in areas like Sosua and Boca Chica. Most Dominicans are not losing sleep over this. Low budget cueros that local dudes are fucking for free or salon money are getting 3 or 4 times that amount from gringos. That's OK too because sex tourists come and go but the local dudes are going to be a part of the chica's real social network. They will be drinking and partying off of some gringos Western Union payments.[/QUOTE]This is very true.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1695620]Guys on motos are fucking finer women than most sex tourists will ever see. It's rare to see a sex tourist with what is considered the cream of the crop by Dominican standards. Girls with kids, black barrio girls, Haitians, etc. . What is mostly in areas like Sosua and Boca Chica. Most Dominicans are not losing sleep over this. Low budget cueros that local dudes are fucking for free or salon money are getting 3 or 4 times that amount from gringos. That's OK too because sex tourists come and go but the local dudes are going to be a part of the chica's real social network. They will be drinking and partying off of some gringos Western Union payments.[/QUOTE]This is so in every country in which I have hobbied. The hookers are always less fine than the average women. The motos and other average guys bang the average women. The men who get the finest women are the wealthy men in the society; they get above average.

I saw some smoking hot putas on my last trip to Sosua. I mean 8's and up. I can not speak for other locations but I think being a DR puta is less negative. Many otherwise nice girls turn to prostitution to survive. I saw very attractive women in Rumbas and Classicos that exceeded all my expectations. You had to be there.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1696659]This is so in every country in which I have hobbied. The hookers are always less fine than the average women. The motos and other average guys bang the average women. The men who get the finest women are the wealthy men in the society; they get above average.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;1696659]The men who get the finest women are the wealthy men in the society; they get above average.[/QUOTE]This is true the world all over; even the USA.

You guys need to add a touch of reality to the situation though. Beyonce was not always "Mega-Millionaire Beyonce." Broad went to Elsik High School here in Alief, which is about as hood as it can get.

Jennifer Lopez (J Lo) is from the Bronx; like old skool Brox.

Rihanna grew up in "the hood" in Barbados selling clothes on the street with her pops.

Britney Spears is from some Podunk town out in the sticks of Louisiana.

All of these chicks you guys like to put up on a pedestal was broke before they became who they were. So don't act like you cannot go to the slums, barrio, or hood of any country and not find your own version of a young Jada Pinkett Smith or Zoe Saldana. If either one of them had grown up in the DR and had gotten knocked up by one of the local Dominicanos, it is not a stretch to say that you could have also found them tricking in Sosua or Boca if it meant feeding their baby.

[QUOTE=JJ341;1695599]Santo Domingo.

A few weeks ago I went to Santo Domingo. Usually, I stay at the Jaragua but it is closed during renovations so I stayed at the Napolitano Hotel. The cost was $90.00 a night including breakfast. There's a nice pool, a restaurant 2 bars and a little Casino. The Napolitano is chica friendly with no additional charge for guests. During my stay I brought a few buddies to the pool and they didn't have to pay.

They have live entertainment at least 3 times a week which is heavily attended by locals. It's a good hotel. A little outdated but as far as I know it's the only big hotel on the Malecon that is completely guest friendly and has the aforementioned amenities...[/QUOTE]Thank you for the reply. I had considered this hotel but it looked to be away from things. Based on your reply maybe it needs to be back on the table.

I've spent a lot of time going through posts from the last year to come up with my short list. It's still a tough decision. I don't know if I'll ever be back so I want to make it the best experience possible.

I'd be interested in hearing from others.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1696675]This is true the world all over; even the USA.

You guys need to add a touch of reality to the situation though. Beyonce was not always "Mega-Millionaire Beyonce." Broad went to Elsik High School here in Alief, which is about as hood as it can get.

Jennifer Lopez (J Lo) is from the Bronx; like old skool Brox.

Rihanna grew up in "the hood" in Barbados selling clothes on the street with her pops.

Britney Spears is from some Podunk town out in the sticks of Louisiana.

All of these chicks you guys like to put up on a pedestal was broke before they became who they were. So don't act like you cannot go to the slums, barrio, or hood of any country and not find your own version of a young Jada Pinkett Smith or Zoe Saldana. If either one of them had grown up in the DR and had gotten knocked up by one of the local Dominicanos, it is not a stretch to say that you could have also found them tricking in Sosua or Boca if it meant feeding their baby.[/QUOTE]True also. I just spent three months in the DR and met two girls that came from the absolute poorest of the poor barrios, one in Pto Pta and the other whom is a cousin of my steady girl was from Higuey, dirt poor but a 9. 5 all day long, I couldn't believe her beauty, the hottest I've ever seen and I've been going to the DR for a very long time. She was 18 and clueless, if she is smart or lucky or both she will hook up with someone with money, I am tempted to dump my girl and try to hook up with her, LOL.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1696668]I saw some smoking hot putas on my last trip to Sosua. I mean 8's and up. I can not speak for other locations but I think being a DR puta is less negative. Many otherwise nice girls turn to prostitution to survive. I saw very attractive women in Rumbas and Classicos that exceeded all my expectations. You had to be there.[/QUOTE]OldKool, did you hook up with the girl whose info I sent you? She is smoking hot dude, my wingman did her and said she was off the chain.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1696675]This is true the world all over; even the USA.

You guys need to add a touch of reality to the situation though. Beyonce was not always "Mega-Millionaire Beyonce." Broad went to Elsik High School here in Alief, which is about as hood as it can get.

Jennifer Lopez (J Lo) is from the Bronx; like old skool Brox.

Rihanna grew up in "the hood" in Barbados selling clothes on the street with her pops.

Britney Spears is from some Podunk town out in the sticks of Louisiana.

All of these chicks you guys like to put up on a pedestal was broke before they became who they were. So don't act like you cannot go to the slums, barrio, or hood of any country and not find your own version of a young Jada Pinkett Smith or Zoe Saldana. If either one of them had grown up in the DR and had gotten knocked up by one of the local Dominicanos, it is not a stretch to say that you could have also found them tricking in Sosua or Boca if it meant feeding their baby.[/QUOTE]Very true. There are women everywhere just as hot as celebrities and models that are open to various degrees of P4 P. Whether you get with them is a function of how much money or effort you want to devote to it. A big part of effort in this sense is just how selective you are. If you hang out in the DR for weeks to months at a time and are very discriminating you can just have sex with 9+ females and never pay more than 2000 pesos. Of course you will also end up going home alone a lot and putting a lot of time and energy into it. The only reason mongers in the DR ever get with chica's any less attractive than Beyoncé or J Lo is they aren't that selective and just grab the least unattractive option in front of them. They are definitely there. What Chica's cost is more a function of where you find them than how hot they are.

I did not get the number. I would have made time for her. I did not pace my self very well. The last day I did 4 girls.

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[QUOTE=Manizales911;1696736]OldKool, did you hook up with the girl whose info I sent you? She is smoking hot dude, my wingman did her and said she was off the chain.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Yonkers44;1696589]In any case, this action is more at home in a banana republic or in a police state. Sadly I believe we are going that way with an unprecedented intrusion on our privacy.[/QUOTE]Could not agree more with you. All in the name of keeping us safe!

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1695620]Guys on motos are fucking finer women than most sex tourists will ever see. It's rare to see a sex tourist with what is considered the cream of the crop by Dominican standards. Girls with kids, black barrio girls, Haitians, etc[/QUOTE]"Dominican standards" is an oxymoron.

If the time ever comes when I value a Dominican's opinion over my own on what is "the cream of the crop" it will be time to give up sex and start pressing wild flowers as a hobby.

As for "guys on motos", I probably ride more motos than anyone else on this board. I do dozens of trips each week, every week of the year. Sometimes I have to remind the younger drivers to keep their eyes on the road and leave ogling the women to me. But I note the type of women which attracts their attention, overweight, trashy ill-fitting clothes, and dyed blonde hair is a bonus.

I would not trust a moto guy to choose the best pica pollo stand, let alone choose me a woman.

I was going to slate you for suggesting black girls (Haitian or Dominican) are ineligible to be considered "the cream of the crop" but then I realized you are only (correctly) citing the typical Dominican attitude. I am sure you do not hold such ignorant and racist views yourself.

For myself, after eight years of visiting and living here, the two most beautiful girls I have known have both been black and both were working girls. One was "rescued" by a gringo photographer before she got deep into the game and has since become a photo model. The other was an expensive working girl from the old Diosa massage place near Costa Dorada. A wealthy, young and good-looking Dane fell in love with her. The first you could have had for 1500 pesos. The second turned down 4000 from me, the only time I have ever offered as much.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1696668]I saw some smoking hot putas on my last trip to Sosua. I mean 8's and up. I can not speak for other locations but I think being a DR puta is less negative. Many otherwise nice girls turn to prostitution to survive. I saw very attractive women in Rumbas and Classicos that exceeded all my expectations. You had to be there.[/QUOTE]I wish I could agree with you. If so then I would live in Sosua. I have been disappointed so many times by taking a "hot" chica to my room and upon undressing her hearing my dick say "What the f. ". Saggy tits, scars, uneven skin tone, healed sore marks etc. Sometimes the ones with the plain Jane faces have the best bodies. Or maybe I'm just unluckier than other mongers who have slept with 8's and up. In one of my visits to Classico's I did see a chica who I'd rate above average, it would have been nice to have banged her and see what her body looked like in bright lights. These girls are very good at hiding defects. The best chicas I've sessioned with have been in Brazil, Germany and China and even those were not as good as the average chicas in those countries. They would have been above average in the DR though.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1696675]This is true the world all over; even the USA.

You guys need to add a touch of reality to the situation though. Beyonce was not always "Mega-Millionaire Beyonce." Broad went to Elsik High School here in Alief, which is about as hood as it can get.

Jennifer Lopez (J Lo) is from the Bronx; like old skool Brox.

Rihanna grew up in "the hood" in Barbados selling clothes on the street with her pops.

Britney Spears is from some Podunk town out in the sticks of Louisiana.

All of these chicks you guys like to put up on a pedestal was broke before they became who they were. So don't act like you cannot go to the slums, barrio, or hood of any country and not find your own version of a young Jada Pinkett Smith or Zoe Saldana. If either one of them had grown up in the DR and had gotten knocked up by one of the local Dominicanos, it is not a stretch to say that you could have also found them tricking in Sosua or Boca if it meant feeding their baby.[/QUOTE]I would rate none of the women you named as above average in looks by US standards. They are talented, famous, rich women; but I see many hotter women just walking the streets of Manhatten.

The ladies I have dealt with all seem very sour about Dominican men. They are their babies daddies and almost always dead beats. They do not have jobs are often spoiled abusive moma"s boy. I have heard this many times. I firmly believe our cash trumps everything they have.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1697019]The best chicas I've sessioned with have been in Brazil, Germany and China and even those were not as good as the average chicas in those countries. They would have been above average in the DR though.[/QUOTE]You lost me there with China. I'm trying to count on one hand how many Chinese chicks I thought were attractive (and I live in a very multicultural city). But "to each his own", "one man's 10 is another man's 6", and all that jazz.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1697033]The ladies I have dealt with all seem very sour about Dominican men. They are their babies daddies and almost always dead beats. They do not have jobs are often spoiled abusive moma"s boy. I have heard this many times. I firmly believe our cash trumps everything they have.[/QUOTE]When you make up your mind the blinders go on. I had a Dominican girlfriend for three years that most guys who know me have met and she hated Dominican dudes so much that she went lesbian when she wasn't with me. We broke up three years ago and guess who she gets pregnant twice from? Dominican dudes.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1697025]I would rate none of the women you named as above average in looks by US standards...[/QUOTE]I am not sure how you define "average" and "above average". On a scale of 0-10, the average is 5; therefore, anything above a "5" is "above average". Nevertheless, if you believe that the average of 0 and 10 is "7" or "8" or "9" or something, than we have a different definition of the word average.

Personally, I find Rihanna, Beyonce, Britney, and J-Lo "above average", which means I rate them above a "5". Nevertheless, if you rate Rihanna, Beyonce, Britney, and J-Lo at a "5" or below, don't be surprised when your opinions and reports are scrutinized or ignored.

-Helpmann

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1696999]
For myself, after eight years of visiting and living here, the two most beautiful girls I have known have both been black and both were working girls. [/QUOTE]You're entitled to your opinion. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say. Perhaps, if I were in your position I would feel the same way as you.

This is my 2 of 3rd time in the forums this year and I'm not here to debate anyone's personal taste. I can only speak for the Dominicans that I interact with, I can't speak for all Dominicans. I'm sure tastes vary depending on which part of the island you reside.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1697019]I wish I could agree with you. If so then I would live in Sosua. I have been disappointed so many times by taking a "hot" chica to my room and upon undressing her hearing my dick say "What the f. ". Saggy tits, scars, uneven skin tone, healed sore marks etc. [/QUOTE]Your remarks reminded me of a 20 years old that came to visit me last Saturday from Cabarete. The body was fantastic, no kids and all, but plenty of motoconcho scars. The sex was great but I hear you on the scars.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1697037]You lost me there with China. I'm trying to count on one hand how many Chinese chicks I thought were attractive (and I live in a very multicultural city). But "to each his own", "one man's 10 is another man's 6", and all that jazz.[/QUOTE]I saw among the most beautiful women I've seen anywhere in mainland China. I sampled women there with very pretty faces and absolutely flawless skin. So sad the demise of CP.

[QUOTE=Helpmann;1697053]I am not sure how you define "average" and "above average". On a scale of 0-10, the average is 5; therefore, anything above a "5" is "above average". Nevertheless, if you believe that the average of 0 and 10 is "7" or "8" or "9" or something, than we have a different definition of the word average.

Personally, I find Rihanna, Beyonce, Britney, and J-Lo "above average", which means I rate them above a "5". Nevertheless, if you rate Rihanna, Beyonce, Britney, and J-Lo at a "5" or below, don't be surprised when your opinions and reports are scrutinized or ignored.

-Helpmann[/QUOTE]Bro, no one has the last word on beauty. As another poster said one man's 6 is another's 10. I would add " and vice versa".