Is ex Nea World, blond Californian face, trying again Sharks, 2 years later?
I advised tall blond Erika. Ro to return, she will be above average.
Wish Mersi. Hu will stay, even sometimes slow business. Not so many new attractive girls last times.
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Is ex Nea World, blond Californian face, trying again Sharks, 2 years later?
I advised tall blond Erika. Ro to return, she will be above average.
Wish Mersi. Hu will stay, even sometimes slow business. Not so many new attractive girls last times.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1950382]
Wish Mersi. Hu will stay, even sometimes slow business. Not so many new attractive girls last times.[/QUOTE]Well, the little hungarian group just grew by one more member last weekend. So they are 4 now. That allways helps I guess. All good service and are really into it in the room. Ashame Merci doesnt seem to work sundays. She also tend to leave before the other hungarians. Hope it is not a bad sign of a pimp or anything like that... as she is the best looker out of them...
[QUOTE=Pistons;1950406]Well, the little hungarian group just grew by one more member last weekend. So they are 4 now. That allways helps I guess.[/QUOTE]Yep with Dina, Mercy, Henrietta, Jacqueline, Tiffany, Nicoletta and Elisa / Elli I also count now 4 hungarian girls at Sharks.
I'll be stopping in Frankfurt on Monday January 2nd, is it worth going there or will it be dead? I've been there on Mondays before and it was slow, but there was still enough girls to have fun. Will a Monday, plus holidays be an overkill?
[QUOTE=Craiova;1950419] I also count now 4 hungarian girls at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is good we agree sometimes. And not allways fighting. .
Neya ro ex World was seen at Sharks on Saturday. She says her attendance at Sharks is permanent and not a temporary visit. Wr will see.
Neya is a medium height blonde with a round face. She is wild in the room. Last I recall she did not allow anal sex but was curious.
There were many French at Sharks on Saturday.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1950419]Yep with Dina, Mercy, Henrietta, Jacqueline, Tiffany, Nicoletta and Elisa / Elli I also count now 4 hungarian girls at Sharks.[/QUOTE]I may be wrong but I did not see Dina or Mersi at Sharks over the past weekend but strangely enough Nicoletta was present. Dina and Nicolletta were of interest to the French group.
Was at Sharks on the the 6th of October Thursday, looked like a very slow day with not many girls initially in the day but the girl line up started to build as the day progressed. I must say I wasn't impressed with the line up of the Girls in Sharks that day, only 2-3 doable girls, most of the girls had sagging tits to my taste and not so great faces or body either. Did two girls don't remember the name I am sorry for that. But was an average session. In comparison to Artemis (Which I went later in my Berlin Visit) the service is still better in Sharks (Artemis is a disaster) But who knows had I stayed untill late night and on some other day in Sharks the Line up could have been more better. One thing I was happy about that the girls that I went with, were all ready for Kissing, DATY and stuff which was certainly not the case in Artemis. I would write a short FR in the Artemis Section. But my this 2016 Sharks visit was not as memorable as my 2014 Visit. Still Romanian Girls in Sharks which is not a problem just mentioning.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1950509]I may be wrong but I did not see Dina or Mersi at Sharks over the past weekend but strangely enough Nicoletta was present. Dina and Nicolletta were of interest to the French group.[/QUOTE]Maybe Dina was busy with a client. They travel together so it is unlikely one would be here but not the other. Unless there is some juicy FKK drama I'm missing out on!
200+ posts asking for every minutia about the club from the last train at Darmstadt HBf to Dessous days and which girls do what. More detail oriented than I was on my physics Ph. The. LOL, and in the end a single day, a couple of girls and no names.
At least we will not have to face the barrage of questions for another twelve months? Is that too much to ask for?
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1949972]A few days ago, I visited Shark. Around 4 pm, I entered club. LU is not very good and girls business were very slow.
When seeing Cosmina in idle and sitting on the pole stage alone, I walk to her. She used to be one of my favorites, we went to room more than 5 times before, but had no chance to go together since June. I asked her if she was ready to go to room. Surprised and shock, she replied impatiently that she was very busy evening and no time for me. OK, I left her alone.
However it turned out that she sat there for about 10 min without customer. She stood up and walked a few rounds, then sat back to stage. I walked back and would like to offer her a chance again. Just at moment, she stood up and walk to a Asian (Japanese? The guy asked her name, apparently they didn't know each other. Then they went together to someplace.
I know that Cosmina favors Asians clients. Someone told me it was very easy for her to upsell service to Asian, because they are easy to be manipulated. I don't care if it is true, but I am not a stranger to her, even if I am not a Japanes or Korean, I am a descent man and always generous to her. So I just don't understand her behavior.[/QUOTE]Don't take it for you, you should find at Sharks girls with higher sexual potential than Cosmina, except her BJ skill, but limited vagina for normal size, so Asians are easier to fuck for her. Monkey on pole is not sensual woman, she should look tattooed Kriss. Ro dancing like a woman.
[QUOTE=Trotter69;1949576]Ariana. Cute girl but in the room she offered bareback sex upsell, is that a thing in FKK?..[/QUOTE]If this is about blond Ariana with unperfect tits and scar on belly, I had about 10 weekly rooms with her when she arrived at Sharks on end of February, until beginning of April, she never asked me for tip, nor extra. At this time, she didn't know I can write about girls. She was exceptional and I called her on this forum my sunshine for her freshness. For somebody, I advised her to try a new targets business, she did. On beginning of July, I did something for her because I was sad for her, I never did this before and I will never do it again. For who know her, she would be very crazy to provide such risky business, she has better in her life than a few money.
A while ago, somebody write about this about Dina, I m not a regular client of Dina, but I never read anybody else writing this about Dina. Why? In Paris, we call these guys fakers, this guy uses different profile on this forum, say to girls he is Swiss because he knows a Swiss regular in Hessen, all Sharks regulars know this regular, but he is not Swiss, but a frustrated, dirty fat, small dick, french looking for AO sex with girls, writing and bullshiting about girls and guys with 2 or 3 profiles, when all girls at Sharks and all regulars know who I am and my name on this forum, but I don't need to hide.
So, don't believe all what is written on this forum, even my posts are only my subjective experiences, I don't claim to get the truth, only my truth.
And I confirm I don't know who is Bitumen who claims to know me in normal life, wait to see him.
Also seems to have an aggressive competition for Asian business. Specialized girls don't seem to like new girls take some Asian targets.
As I say, no friend in FKK, for girls and even for me, even I always enjoy to meet Jo and a few guys, not the big belly with his skirt.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1944892]I wanted to write "She is different from others in the way of work". I'm not able to know the contents of her head like you, I'm not Esper.
Now you write like your master LOL.[/QUOTE]I was joking. But, while Janine is super sweet to talk with, her room skills are a waste of time.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1944892]I wanted to write "She is different from others in the way of work". I'm not able to know the contents of her head like you, I'm not Esper.
Now you write like your master LOL.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sirioja;1947457]Even she doesn't sell love, a superstar, not new in the business, not so fresh, at Sharks. 1 year ago, new fresh, pretty girls arrived every week, now ex Palace girls. Sylvana will have a friend to speak about when they started on nineteenth century.[/QUOTE]Lulu ID crap and Stella is crap. Both up sell and try get as much money as possible. Stella has slightly better service, but is a series money. No kissing, no DATY and "no" is central word of the negotiation and session. Stay away is my recommendation. The good thing about Stella is that she doesn't lie. She tells you everything before, so at least no surprises.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;1947556]Pistons bro, stop complaining about silvana, if any monger goes with her its her good luck, it works for us as she keeps them away from the good looking birds. They don't deserve to be with sweet looking chicks anyways.
Hahahahaha.[/QUOTE]Sylvana is a pain in the ass. She actually bothers people until they take her. But, yes, I agree, Sharks is attracting the worst girls from all over and the cuties that came every week last year are not coming. Management is just talking any piece of old ass from any club with no filtering at all. Sharks is losing a lot because of this. Along with the evolving clientele, that's making me think more of World and GT for next visits.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;1947556]Pistons bro, stop complaining about silvana, if any monger goes with her its her good luck, it works for us as she keeps them away from the good looking birds. They don't deserve to be with sweet looking chicks anyways.
Hahahahaha.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=FinnishFucker;1947336]Sharks was busy tonight after 18.00, lot of people buzzing around. I have not been there in a year. Many new faces for me and of course Silvana, the grand pest. Probably 50-70 working girls tonight.
I had a disaster first fuck with busty Brandy. Sexy black stockings and big natural tits did not save the game. Never again, impossible for me to penetrate her in an enjoyable way.
My second pick was very good, German brunette Adriana. I liked her body and nice firm natural tits, medium sized. She had excellent cowgirl technique. Enjoyable session.[/QUOTE]If you got bad service from Brandy, you are doing something wrong. This girl gives good service. Never heard a bad review. But, feel lucky if you enjoyed Adriana as I don't know many people with experience who enjoy her service.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1950419]Yep with Dina, Mercy, Henrietta, Jacqueline, Tiffany, Nicoletta and Elisa / Elli I also count now 4 hungarian girls at Sharks.[/QUOTE]The new hungarian in Dina's crew is Regina, young petite dark blonde with puffy face, no german no english, tries to compensate with her happy attitude. Not tried yet, could be fun.
[QUOTE=Sakhal;1950303]There was a stunning German at the club this week, lingerie, long black or brown hair, pale skin and lip piercing (hangs out at Janine couch sometimes.) I forget her name but she has Samira tattooed on her shoulder. Anyway spoke with her twice and she INSISTS she will do only duos with a very bored looking friend of hers. Whats the deal with her? I found it really strange.[/QUOTE]Maybe Tessa. New german with some attitude. Probably selects her customers. But she understands sex and if she likes you she can deliver the typical rough german romance.
Hungarian Elli hasn't been around for a while.
HB.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1950826]The new hungarian in Dina's crew is Regina, young petite dark blonde with puffy face, no german no english, tries to compensate with her happy attitude. Not tried yet, could be fun.[/QUOTE]I met Regina on Sunday. She was a good beginner type. She has child hood looking puppy fat body but not fat if you can understand the look that I am trying to describe. She is long dark blonde hair that is straight. Maybe a good be cup. She is cute and had the look of the innocent which should make the perverts get a boner that they cannot control.
Along the same lines as Mersi.
If she was the new one last Sunday, I tried her out too. She gives 110%. Thats for sure. What Bitumen means is that she is powerfull... Cute, but not as cute as Mersi for me, or as pretty as another one of the short blondes in that group who I forgot the name of. She was quite horny on her first day. Thats why I tried her. But perhaps that has faded now.
She did understand a little english. But not much.
Valentina is Rumenian. She is the first girl I fucked on Sunday. She has pale skin, many tattoos and she was tall with fake see cup tits that look magnificent. Long black hair that has a bit of a wave to them. Due to here height and confident walk she made an impact on my visuals as Valentina burst from the women's locker room door onto the floor of Sharks. She looks hot.
She sits by the arm chairs on her own by the solarium room.
In the interview, the questions were asked what she did for a 50 euro and french kissing was included with multiple positions and bare back blow job.
In the room, Valentina only kissed superficially. Apart from that Valentina was good visuals and was worth a fuck for the chance to fuck such a tall woman.
Last Saturday, I distantly saw a gorgeous girl lying down Janine's Sofa with a regular client for about couple hours. It turned out that she is Gloria. I haven't seen her for a while. She is another Hungarian girl, but not in Dina's crew. If you like Sander's type, you would enjoy her. She seemed to be very busy on Sunday and Monday. Her regular clients always gave her long-hours-room. Her popularity might be same as Nicoletta, Dina and Regina, Hu, or Megan, Ro.
Dina have been out since last Thursday.
These day, because of discussion in ISG forum, some girls gained extremely high popularity, such as Megan, Dina, Nicoletta, Regina, Anya, Sandra, etc. It is very hard to find these girls. Their regulars always kept them long hours in room.
However, I noticed a few Romanian girls are significantly underrated.
1) Steffi, Ro, 22 y/o. She sometimes sat around bar, closed to Dina' seat. Some months ago, when I approached to Dina and ask her favor, but Dina was unwilling to go, at that moment, I happened to notice a very beautiful girl sitting by next chair. It was Steffi. To be honest, I rate her beauty as 9, same level as Dina. She was very nice and compliant, like Sandra. Service is good too. Since then, we went to room many times. BTW, Steffi is very intelligent, she has genius in languages. She can speak German, English, Spanish very fluently, some French and Italian. Wonderful girl.
2) Bianca, Ro 22 y/o. She has a classic face, tall, looks like a beautiful American next door girl. She is very elegant. Every time, when I saw her walking around, I always thought she and those beautiful girls are wonderful angels created by God, making our earth as heaven. Her service is very good, and she is compliant too.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1950888]Dina have been out since last Thursday.[/QUOTE]When Dina is not present at the club while her friends are present, it means that Dina is doing escort outside the club. 1000-1500 Euros depending on customers.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1950830]Maybe Tessa. New german with some attitude. Probably selects her customers. But she understands sex and if she likes you she can deliver the typical rough german romance.[/QUOTE]I think that was her yes. Does she ever go alone? Last time she approached me with her friend and proposed a duo. I was clearly interested in her alone and said no duo so she said "you're boring" and walked away. Odd girl but drop dead gorgeous. She kept up this routine with others till she finally found someone who agreed to her duo.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1950905]
2) Bianca, Ro 22 y/o. She has a classic face, tall, looks like a beautiful American next door girl. She is very elegant. Every time, when I saw her walking around, I always thought she and those beautiful girls are wonderful angels created by God, making our earth as heaven. Her service is very good, and she is compliant too.[/QUOTE]Bianca is one of the worst sessions at Sharks. Wondering how she can survive there. I like her face and upper body and her arrogant look and classy walk. Her ass is too big. And service is bad.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1950972]Bianca is one of the worst sessions at Sharks. Wondering how she can survive there. I like her face and upper body and her arrogant look and classy walk. Her ass is too big. And service is bad.
HB.[/QUOTE]The first time with her (1 H), it was worse than Janine.
When she asked me the second time one month later, I told her kindly that I did not like at all her service especially her behavior on the bed. She promised to do better and I gave her the second attempt (1 H30). She made an effort and it was not so bad.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1950660]Maybe Dina was busy with a client. They travel together so it is unlikely one would be here but not the other. Unless there is some juicy FKK drama I'm missing out on![/QUOTE]Right for Dina and her "sister" Nicoletta, but not for small cute Mersi who worth to meet, even not speaking much English, but smiles are better talking.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1950808] Sharks... Management is just talking any piece of old ass from any club with no filtering at all.
Sharks is losing a lot because of this. Along with the evolving clientele, that's making me think more of World and GT for next visits.[/QUOTE]I agree with you, Danny.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1950808]But, yes, I agree, Sharks is attracting the worst girls from all over and the cuties that came every week last year are not coming. Management is just talking any piece of old ass from any club with no filtering at all. Sharks is losing a lot because of this. Along with the evolving clientele, that's making me think more of World and GT for next visits.[/QUOTE]So the current line up in Sharks is not as good as other Clubs? Is that what you infer? I kinda feel the same way though, it was only on my a day visit on a Thursday I could be wrong. But I felt the Line up in Artemis was quite better than in Sharks, the Service in Sharks is still better.
[QUOTE=Jooeey;1951040]So the current line up in Sharks is not as good as other Clubs? Is that what you infer? I kinda feel the same way though, it was only on my a day visit on a Thursday I could be wrong. But I felt the Line up in Artemis was quite better than in Sharks, the Service in Sharks is still better.[/QUOTE]I'm doing my first visit in a couple of weeks, this sounds a little worrying. Aren't girls like Evita, Cosmina or Yra / Ira present?
Better to discuss groups within a club, than a club itself I feel. Sharks has many high performers, but it has high numbers of girls, and maybe as much as 1/4 to 1/3 now is terrible in the room and are leeching off of the good reputation of the club.
Lots of girls are not talked about here on the forum. Good and bad. It is just random who gets mentionned here. Never heard anyone but me mention Sisi (ex GT), and her service I would rate alongside Yvette. Which goes to say quite high.
Also the hungarian group is interesting because there it seems they all are good in the room. At least the ones I've tried, and others say the same. The evita, cosmina group etc have the same. So does the stuttgart girls. Ariana, Yvette etc. So look who they hang with, and that is normally a good indicator. Only exception I have noticed is Julia (who clearly needs a spanking according to a fellow monger) who I find quite good looking, but is terrible in the room. But her friend Patricia is great in the room.
I also try to stay away from the Ada group as they allways seems to be in a bad mood. Dunno if it is me, but that group has no patience. And slight anger management issues...
[QUOTE=Jooeey;1951040] I kinda feel the same way though, it was only on my a day visit on a Thursday I could be wrong. But I felt the Line up in Artemis was quite better than in Sharks, the Service in Sharks is still better.[/QUOTE]Which girls at Sharks gave you good service (or better service levels than Artemis)? You asked a ton of questions, over and over again, and many of us took the time to answer you in great detail. Surely you can pay us back with some specific information about your visit to Sharks?
[QUOTE=Ortos;1951078]Which girls at Sharks gave you good service (or better service levels than Artemis)? You asked a ton of questions, over and over again, and many of us took the time to answer you in great detail. Surely you can pay us back with some specific information about your visit to Sharks?[/QUOTE]Frankly speaking since I was in a FKK I wanted to do some girls thats it, none of the girls that I came across particuarly raised my interest so I was going through motions and not doing anything out of great interest so don't remember the names. And so finally I had to make my visit and money worth by doing something which I did and I am sorry but I don't remember the names. Maybe it doesn't help. But I can't help since I don't remember the names. I have already put in a kinda trip report from whatever I feel like writing and what I remember best.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1950972]Bianca is one of the worst sessions at Sharks. Wondering how she can survive there. I like her face and upper body and her arrogant look and classy walk. Her ass is too big. And service is bad.[/QUOTE]Bianca survive with her optic quite easy at Sharks. Now how long? More than a year. And before Tanja was with similar great optic and similar bad service around two years at Sharks. Sharks is and was always a club with many clients with very low expectations on sex. At least Bianca and Tanja are optic girls not to mention the meanwhile quite a lot average looking girls with mediocre service there.
And the other in the original post mentioned girl Steffi, does she DFK now?
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1950888]Last Saturday, I distantly saw a gorgeous girl lying down Janine's Sofa with a regular client for about couple hours. It turned out that she is Gloria. I haven't seen her for a while. She is another Hungarian girl, but not in Dina's crew. If you like Sander's type, you would enjoy her. She seemed to be very busy on Sunday and Monday. Her regular clients always gave her long-hours-room. Her popularity might be same as Nicoletta, Dina and Regina, Hu, or Megan, Ro.
Dina have been out since last Thursday.[/QUOTE]I was about to ask someone here about thus girl but you are faster than me! She told me her name is Gloriana or something like that. 27 years ago. Decent face a cup and quite tall. Good services in the room and very accomodating. As you said she is not part of the Dina group. i was with her on sunday and she was again at a coach with someone for hours and they didnt go to the room at all.
[QUOTE=PChew;1951092]She told me her name is Gloriana or something like that. 27 years ago. Decent face a cup and quite tall[/QUOTE]You remember her after that long time? Wow! My respect. LOL.
[QUOTE=BarryManila;1951104]You remember her after that long time? Wow! My respect. LOL.[/QUOTE]Ofc when a hot gal tells you her name you never forget no matter how long its been 😉.
[QUOTE=BarryManila;1951104]You remember her after that long time? Wow! My respect. LOL.[/QUOTE]27 years old. Stupid auto fill. Good spot.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1950783]A while ago, somebody write about this about Dina, I m not a regular client of Dina, but I never read anybody else writing this about Dina. Why? In Paris, we call these guys fakers, this guy uses different profile on this forum, say to girls he is Swiss because he knows a Swiss regular in Hessen, all Sharks regulars know this regular, but he is not Swiss, but a frustrated, dirty fat, small dick, french looking for AO sex with girls, writing and bullshiting about girls and guys with 2 or 3 profiles, when all girls at Sharks and all regulars know who I am and my name on this forum, but I don't need to hide.[/QUOTE]This was not about the Swiss well known regular, but a 50 rooms, French guy claiming to be Swiss with girls, looking for AO and using at least 2 profiles on this forum.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1950905]1) Steffi, Ro, 22 y/o. She sometimes sat around bar, closed to Dina' seat. Some months ago, when I approached to Dina and ask her favor, but Dina was unwilling to go, at that moment, I happened to notice a very beautiful girl sitting by next chair. It was Steffi. To be honest, I rate her beauty as 9, same level as Dina. She was very nice and compliant, like Sandra. Service is good too. Since then, we went to room many times. BTW, Steffi is very intelligent, she has genius in languages. She can speak German, English, Spanish very fluently, some French and Italian. Wonderful girl.
2) Bianca, Ro 22 y/o. She has a classic face, tall, looks like a beautiful American next door girl. She is very elegant. Every time, when I saw her walking around, I always thought she and those beautiful girls are wonderful angels created by God, making our earth as heaven. Her service is very good, and she is compliant too.[/QUOTE]With her classy, natural beauty, Steffi should be a star at Sharks. She was friendly, but I didn't speak french with her. Unfortunately not really kissing and was not busy when I visited Sharks.
Experiences seem different with blond Bianka, my friend enjoyed for 1 hour with her, but not kissing and not smiling in the lounge. With her look, she could get better business, I imagine in doggy in mirror room, looking at her face.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1951214]This was not about the Swiss well known regular, but a 50 rooms, French guy claiming to be Swiss with girls, looking for AO and using at least 2 profiles on this forum.[/QUOTE]You should teach yr fellow comrade the dangers AO might pose. Well at least he's trying to protect the reputation of the french, LOL.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1950808]Sylvana is a pain in the ass. She actually bothers people until they take her.
But, yes, I agree, Sharks is attracting the worst girls from all over and the cuties that came every week last year are not coming. Management is just talking any piece of old ass from any club with no filtering at all. Sharks is losing a lot because of this. Along with the evolving clientele, that's making me think more of World and GT for next visits.[/QUOTE]Sylvana doesn't come to me, she is afraid of the internet poet who could write about her legendary BJ.
I often wrote Sharks was the best casting in 2015 until April 2016 , but I agree, not often new attractive girls now, only new GND, except Mersi. Hu, for my last visits, but exceptional Roberta. Ro or Leila half Kazakh, half Tunisian, didn't stay unfortunately. Ilka, Rena. Ro and Karin. Ro also left. Alice / Kate didn't return. So less visits for me since this summer.
What a good surprise on this Sunday night at World, girls were very free and 2 of my night girls were really fresh in mind and vagina, 1 just arrived from Laufthaus Manheim, I didn't know girls have so high level in Laufthaus, Amira was also exceptional when arriving from Laufthaus Paradise Hamburg, but not so good after too many World Turkish nights.
LR is higher GFE level for me, on average, and I found a really top Romanian GF, but also many others very good: Amira, Antonella, was said about Linda, Miranda. Gr, Luna. De. Maybe Gigi, Karina to discover.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1951222]You should teach yr fellow comrade the dangers AO might pose. Well at least he's trying to protect the reputation of the french, LOL.[/QUOTE]I wrote about, because I know he bullshit about what he wrote about Dina, so everybody can find one of his profile now, and he also BS about me, reading all my posts and telling my girls. When guys want to have AO with a girl, but can't have, they often write the girl provides to make her problems. I think these kind of dirty mind guys are dangerous for girls. I can't do anything about Turkish behavior, but I feel more concerned by dirty french, even he says to girls he is Swiss and speaks German, but unfortunately for me, French and he can be with another one, but I will never forget, before building, I started working cleaning places from shit.
If Bitumen wants to meet me, he will never find me in a french group, but maximum with one French. I m not interested to meet french guys in clubs, I prefer to improve my English.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1951069]
Lots of girls are not talked about here on the forum. Good and bad. It is just random who gets mentionned here.[/QUOTE]True.
I always had a great time with Domenica PL, but she hardly gets mentioned here. Perhaps also because she works quite irregularly and when at Sharks she's there for only a few days at the time. Is she still around? She's usually quite busy. Anyone seen her?
Fantastic rock hard body, unfortunately the same goes for those rock hard silicone implants, the only downside. Nevertheless a really nice girl, I always had a total GFE with her and she's high on my repeat list.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1951249]True.
I always had a great time with Domenica PL, but she hardly gets mentioned here. Perhaps also because she works quite irregularly and when at Sharks she's there for only a few days at the time. Is she still around? She's usually quite busy. Anyone seen her?
Fantastic rock hard body, unfortunately the same goes for those rock hard silicone implants, the only downside. Nevertheless a really nice girl, I always had a total GFE with her and she's high on my repeat list.[/QUOTE]Friendly, smiling, still fresh even not 20 anymore, sweet but lack of kissing for GFE.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1951069]I also try to stay away from the Ada group as they allways seems to be in a bad mood. Dunno if it is me, but that group has no patience. And slight anger management issues...[/QUOTE]Ada can be very friendly and quite good in room, just a bit bitter dark skin for me, but had a quite good hour with her. Not sure for a 50 room. For her body and tits, Diana should worth a try, she is a woman, so just have to find the key, like with all Romanian girls.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1951359]Didn't know she offers those services.[/QUOTE]I understood Sylvana provides anal, maybe also active?
[QUOTE=Jooeey;1951040]So the current line up in Sharks is not as good as other Clubs? Is that what you infer? I kinda feel the same way though, it was only on my a day visit on a Thursday I could be wrong. But I felt the Line up in Artemis was quite better than in Sharks, the Service in Sharks is still better.[/QUOTE]No, that's not true. I protest the negative campaign to LU of Sharks which remains the best in the region. I tested Oase and World last week, although we can always finish finding some good girls in these clubs, it is indisputable that we can more easily find the beautiful girls with good performance at Sharks. The problem actual of Sharks is an "immigration". As there is not much business at that time, girls from other clubs come to Sharks with their habit (upsell and bad behavior). Moreover, the rate of silicone girls has increased lately.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1951085]Bianca survive with her optic quite easy at Sharks. Now how long? More than a year. And before Tanja was with similar great optic and similar bad service around two years at Sharks. Sharks is and was always a club with many clients with very low expectations on sex. At least Bianca and Tanja are optic girls not to mention the meanwhile quite a lot average looking girls with mediocre service there.
[/QUOTE]Bianca, Esther and Ariana oriented toward Asians hunting. Because they are fed up with "30 minutes chats-30 minutes room Customer". I hope girls like Mia do not fall into the "dark side" like them. The problem is the temptation to Work Less and Earn More.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1951253]Friendly, smiling, still fresh even not 20 anymore, sweet but lack of kissing for GFE.[/QUOTE]Didn't see her for my last visits on September. No real kiss and silicon made no repeat, but she stayed friendly and she is a real woman.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1950808]Sylvana is a pain in the ass. She actually bothers people until they take her.[/QUOTE]Sylvana who is only interested in young men went to the room by taking two young boys last weekend. When I think that I pay to take young girls and she is paid for taking young boys, I think it is unfair.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1951253]Friendly, smiling, still fresh even not 20 anymore, sweet but lack of kissing for GFE.[/QUOTE]Maybe with you, mon ami. Just have to find the key, like with all polish women.
Domenica has probably quit.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1951069]Better to discuss groups within a club, than a club itself I feel. Sharks has many high performers, but it has high numbers of girls, and maybe as much as 1/4 to 1/3 now is terrible in the room and are leeching off of the good reputation of the club.
Also the hungarian group is interesting because there it seems they all are good in the room. At least the ones I've tried, and others say the same. The evita, cosmina group etc have the same. So does the stuttgart girls. Ariana, Yvette etc. So look who they hang with, and that is normally a good indicator. Only exception I have noticed is Julia (who clearly needs a spanking according to a fellow monger) who I find quite good looking, but is terrible in the room. But her friend Patricia is great in the room.
.[/QUOTE]Nicoletta average at best. Dina looks very sexy but totally fake in the room. Mersi is cute and fun, but nothing special for me. Henrietta is smart and can give out passionate service, but not enough to compensate her ordinary looks. Evita cosmina ecc. Is just asian kindergarten.
Is this really your standard of good service?
Stuttgart service level, very funny. You think quality control process directly derived from Porsche factory? I met some lousy Stuttgart performers in my career.
True I am also seeing new girls with bad vibes, also germans (like ex Magnum silicon brunette Cassie, laufhaus attitude and awful service according to a friend of mine), but like Lulu and Stella I can't imagine them lasting too long in Sharks.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1951253]Friendly, smiling, still fresh even not 20 anymore, sweet but lack of kissing for GFE.[/QUOTE]With me the sex was like with a normal girlfriend, so normal DFK and no use of lube. She also almost always gave me a good deal, by rounding down the time we spent in the room.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1951468]Maybe with you, mon ami. Just have to find the key, like with all polish women.
Domenica has probably quit.[/QUOTE]Yeah probably, pity though. 😐 She was hard to catch when she was there, lots of regulars I suppose, but despite her fanclub of regulars almost no reports about her here.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1951480] You think quality control process directly derived from Porsche factory?.[/QUOTE]Maybe they just know how to process quality pistons there. lol
[QUOTE=NotSavvy;1951385]Bianca, Esther and Ariana oriented toward Asians hunting. Because they are fed up with "30 minutes chats-30 minutes room Customer". I hope girls like Mia do not fall into the "dark side" like them. The problem is the temptation to Work Less and Earn More.[/QUOTE]I doubt that Bianca or Esther "fall" into the "dark side". Nope they are born with this and I even doubt (I'm quite sure at P6) that they are able performing top class. BTW I doubt also that 30 + 30 for 50 isn't a fair deal anymore in 2016. And to work less and earn more everyone likes that, me too. Therefore the "problem isn't the temptation for the girls", the reason for that is simple market economy if more and more guys accept less service or pay more.
Nevertheless for P6 with east european girls german FKK clubs for me still the best, safest and cheapest place worldwide, so we shouldn't complain too much, at least till July.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1951596]
Nevertheless for P6 with east european girls german FKK clubs for me still the best, safest and cheapest place worldwide, so we shouldn't complain too much, at least till July.[/QUOTE]Is this text Too Short to qualify for the RofD?
[QUOTE=Ortos;1951640]Is this text Too Short to qualify for the RofD?[/QUOTE]RofD?
Rotary oldtimer fellowers Deutschland? Roll on floor dead? Royal Oak Fire Departement?
Really no idea.
Hello,
Con you advise some club for 3 days in the Halloween time?
I'm from Italy and I come often to the club globe (big sex with polish top Silwya this summer), in little crisis but always the best FKK, so expensive and exclusive.
I know almost all the biggest german club.
There's the party in Goldentime (for me the best club in Germany, I love it, especially for the lineup) but it's a little bit far, and I know the sharks is now an important club, maybe the best for distance, price, girls and good sex.
Other opinions about? Oase and palace (I love the mood of this club, the second especially, wonderful girls, german too) and world situation?
Others club?
Can you make me a ranking of the best club now?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Jooeey;1951040]So the current line up in Sharks is not as good as other Clubs? Is that what you infer? I kinda feel the same way though, it was only on my a day visit on a Thursday I could be wrong. But I felt the Line up in Artemis was quite better than in Sharks, the Service in Sharks is still better.[/QUOTE]LU in Sharks is not close to the same period last year. As compared to other clubs, it is still not bad, but it attracts the lowest quality girls from other clubs. Upselling is crazy by some of the new girls (E. G. Stella and Lulu / Katharina). Sharks is not the same anymore. Management is filtering the girls we get Oase and palace porn stars, prices and service in Sharks, from some girls. Artemis line up is OK, but full pf silicon and tourist service. It takes a lot of work to find good girls.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2019-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction[/URL]
Happy to help.
HB.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1951500]With me the sex was like with a normal girlfriend, so normal DFK and no use of lube. She also almost always gave me a good deal, by rounding down the time we spent in the room.
Yeah probably, pity though. 😐 She was hard to catch when she was there, lots of regulars I suppose, but despite her fanclub of regulars almost no reports about her here.[/QUOTE]Only once with Domenika, friendly, but no dream, to repeat, but each time she saw me, she came smiling, saying: Hi, usually not so busy for me, no problem to catch her. Except Janine when she started and Alice / Kate, girls are not so difficult to catch at Sharks, even Sandra when she was very busy.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1951480]Evita cosmina ecc. Is just asian kindergarten..[/QUOTE]Okay, this is insulting but I ain't even mad at you. It's fucking funny.
Being active on this forum and reading all these opinions has shown me that good mongers bring out good service. German, Asian, American, whatever. If you suck in the sack maybe you get poor service more often.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1946653]BTW this week I've talked with a reliable club girl who has worked also in Munich at Sunshine and Sudfass and I was shocked what I hear. In these clubs the Munich Authorities "Sitte" makes club inspection and open room door without knocking and fine girls giving BBBJ. I hope all clubs install door-locks on all rooms till July.[/QUOTE]Craiova,
I found this article that supports the practice in Bavaria you reference where the police will walk in during sessions to check on condom use.
"Furthermore, she pointed out, it will be rather problematic to oversee the adherence to certain requirements enforced by the new legislation such as, for example, the obligatory use of condoms by prostitutes.
"Just take a look at how this is being supervised in Bavaria. The police there actually walk in on people in the act and, using flashlights, check if this requirement is being fulfilled or not. You can only monitor such things if you don't care about people's dignity," De Rivire remarked. ".
Link.
[URL]https://sputniknews.com/art_living/201603241036925352-germany-prostitution-laws-problems/[/URL]
Also some other articles in English with some selected quotes on how the new condom law will operate:
"Brothel owners will be obligated to draw customers' attention to the law and advertising unprotected sex will be banned. ".
"Any violations of the law by pimps, buyers or prostitutes. Can be punished with fines between 1,000 and 50,000 , with authorities able to withdraw brothels' licences. ".
Link.
[URL]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-prostitution-law-condoms-sex-workers-bundesrat-vote-approved-date-comes-in-brothels-illegal-a7326056.html[/URL]
Link.
[URL]http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/sex/germany-rules-men-have-to-use-condoms-when-having-sex-with-prostitutes/news-story/4fe4530505234e0b75aa261a282a8109[/URL]
[QUOTE=Nutella1;1951681]
Can you make me a ranking of the best club now?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]History shows this is a way to open the pandora's box on this forum.
[QUOTE=Nutella1;1951681]Hello,
Con you advise some club for 3 days in the Halloween time?
I'm from Italy and I come often to the club globe (big sex with polish top Silwya this summer), in little crisis but always the best FKK, so expensive and exclusive.
I know almost all the biggest german club.
There's the party in Goldentime (for me the best club in Germany, I love it, especially for the lineup) but it's a little bit far, and I know the sharks is now an important club, maybe the best for distance, price, girls and good sex.
Other opinions about? Oase and palace (I love the mood of this club, the second especially, wonderful girls, german too) and world situation?
Others club?
Can you make me a ranking of the best club now?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]On Friday 28 October, You can t miss the Globe party. If I could go, but I don t think I will be ready, even Kate off, I would go. Entry 170 CHF.
On Saturday 29 , World party, but poor casting before 5 pm. I enjoyed my Sunday night, maybe because it was my last time for a while.
I don't advice GT party on Monday 31 , if you don t know some girls.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1951696]LU in Sharks is not close to the same period last year. As compared to other clubs, it is still not bad, but it attracts the lowest quality girls from other clubs. Upselling is crazy by some of the new girls (E. G. Stella and Lulu / Katharina). Sharks is not the same anymore. Management is filtering the girls we get Oase and palace porn stars, prices and service in Sharks, from some girls. Artemis line up is OK, but full pf silicon and tourist service. It takes a lot of work to find good girls.[/QUOTE]I agree, lack of new fresh pretty girls now, like it used to be every week in 2015 . Some high level left. Same girls and some lose freshness. Maybe Erika will return on November. Kate, Viktoria. Bu don t want to return because of kind of clients.
LR is higher level for me, since a while, and even World have a few new fresh girls, on night team.
I think Sharks staff think they are the best with 100 girls, but quantity never made quality, how many really attractive? Only 40 girls at LR, but I could go with 10 on 7 October and so enjoyable to wait for the key for 1 hour with your girl, starting foreplay.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1951468]Maybe with you, mon ami. Just have to find the key, like with all polish women.
Domenica has probably quit.[/QUOTE]I don't forget Anna. Pol with reddish hair, green eyes, angel smile, dreamed body, full services: CIM, anal for normal size. 7 rooms with her on 3 week end on June 2014 at World when it was on top, with also Isabella and Madi for each visit. She came from Bumsalp. Ch, friend with German blond, angel smile, Liza working at World and Sharks, now with many tattoos.
Also, blond Marta. Pol at GT on 2014, coming from Bumsalp and Aphrodisia.
I also enjoyed Agnes. Pol at Sharks. For me, 3 were higher level for sex than Domenika even she is a nice girl, but not enough to dream and to run to repeat.
But I m more into Romanian GF behavior, closer to French women, except for lack of respect due to lack of education.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1951763]Craiova,
I found this article that supports the practice in Bavaria you reference where the police will walk in during sessions to check on condom use.
"Furthermore, she pointed out, it will be rather problematic to oversee the adherence to certain requirements enforced by the new legislation such as, for example, the obligatory use of condoms by prostitutes.
"Just take a look at how this is being supervised in Bavaria. The police there actually walk in on people in the act and, using flashlights, check if this requirement is being fulfilled or not. You can only monitor such things if you don't care about people's dignity," De Rivire remarked. ".
Link...[/QUOTE]Several weeks back I tried to give my opinion about this subject, prostitution in Germany which involve around 600.000 girls starts to create too big damages in many families, the government without touching the freedom of prostitution will use this new law to decrease the number of prostitutes and customers for me this is obvious. The use of condom for BJ is just a excuse, the police will increase strongly their control activities in order to demotivate the different actors. For me it marks an end of a time, let see what the coming years and months will bring. I believe also that the escort business will be less affected because far more difficult to control.
Hit sharks Wednesday, talent was decent during the day, had the pleasure of doing Mary the blonde who's been reported on here. She's a fantastic romp, some nice French kisses. Have to say that the oase daytime talent on Tuesday was stronger than sharks but sharks night lu was very very good. I'd estimate 70 to 90 girls total throughout the day.
At one point I was thinking the large club setup blows away oases many connected areas until I had enough of the loud music. Nowhere to go where the music doesn't pound through the walls.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1951872]Hit sharks Wednesday, talent was decent during the day, had the pleasure of doing Mary the blonde who's been reported on here. She's a fantastic romp, some nice French kisses. Have to say that the oase daytime talent on Tuesday was stronger than sharks but sharks night lu was very very good. I'd estimate 70 to 90 girls total throughout the day.
At one point I was thinking the large club setup blows away oases many connected areas until I had enough of the loud music. Nowhere to go where the music doesn't pound through the walls.[/QUOTE]That is main reason I enjoy Oase more than others. 1) Free WiFi where you can connect to work or browse news. 2) Quite room upstairs where you can really sleep if you want. 3) Better lighting. So you can see better on girls face and body.
Of course, the most important is quality of lu. For me if there are pretty much the same, I will stay at Oase.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1951821]I agree, lack of new fresh pretty girls now, like it used to be every week in 2015 . Some high level left. Same girls and some lose freshness. Maybe Erika will return on November. Kate, Viktoria. Bu don t want to return because of kind of clients.
LR is higher level for me, since a while, and even World have a few new fresh girls, on night team.
I think Sharks staff think they are the best with 100 girls, but quantity never made quality, how many really attractive? Only 40 girls at LR, but I could go with 10 on 7 October and so enjoyable to wait for the key for 1 hour with your girl, starting foreplay.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry, but regardless of your personal preference at the moment, to say LR has a better line up than Sharks is just ridiculous. I was in both last weekend and there is no comparison. You might have a few girls you like in LR at the moment, but that is something different than assessing the line up.
The best sessions this weekend for me where in Finca, but I wouldn't say the line up in general is better than LR and Sharks at the moment.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1951870]
prostitution in Germany which involve around 600.000 girls starts to
create too big damages in many families,
the government without touching the freedom of prostitution
I believe also that the escort business will be less affected because far more difficult to control.[/QUOTE]Hmm it seems I have usually always different opinion than you.
1.) Even some politician use this figure I guess around 200000 prostitutes in Germany. 2.) IMHO prostitution help families / marriages more than damages. 3.) IMHO the (new) law ofc touching the freedom of prostitution with registeration and condom duty and other rules. 4.) Escorts are easy to control and I doubt escorts like the idea of registeration, FKK club girls have less problems with this.
[QUOTE=FreeDude;1951966]I'm sorry, but regardless of your personal preference at the moment, to say LR has a better line up than Sharks is just ridiculous. I was in both last weekend and there is no comparison. You might have a few girls you like in LR at the moment, but that is something different than assessing the line up.
The best sessions this weekend for me where in Finca, but I wouldn't say the line up in general is better than LR and Sharks at the moment.[/QUOTE]Agree.
To correctly transmit information, instead of saying "LU of Sharks is not good", we must say "LU of Sharks do not particularly attract me."
[QUOTE=Takedown;1951738]Being active on this forum and reading all these opinions has shown me that good mongers bring out good service. German, Asian, American, whatever. If you suck in the sack maybe you get poor service more often.[/QUOTE]Yes, we must not forget that behind the negative opinions, there is sometimes some propaganda from customers manhandled in a club or by some girls. Unfortunately we have to consider this aspect, sometimes very difficult for beginners like me.
I have not seen Saskia (ex-Palace or does she still work there too?) for over a year- last time I saw her was in 2015 in Palace- after a 5 year absence (wow!)- see my report on the Palace thread- and I got her number but sadly I've lost it during one of my SIM card changes. Anyway, though no longer the stunning beauty she was in her younger days- she must be in her late 30's by now- if she is still working- she is like an old favorite that you always go back to. So, if anyone knows if she is still working in Sharks (or Palace or both) I'd be grateful if you let me know and I'd be even more grateful if you could get me her contact details again (in private message of course). If Saskia works at Sharks what days and times and where does she sit?
If she is still working I can make a detour after my trip to Vienna and visit Sharks / Palace.
Many thanks! (The other old favorite I'd like to see again is the legendary Indira of ex-Palace fame (whose photo in black and white still hangs at the entrance! The sassy Romanian on high stilt-like shoes and an incredible body. Last I heard she was at Dolce Vita but wasn't working that day when I visited last year!
[QUOTE=FreeDude;1951966]I'm sorry, but regardless of your personal preference at the moment, to say LR has a better line up than Sharks is just ridiculous. I was in both last weekend and there is no comparison. You might have a few girls you like in LR at the moment, but that is something different than assessing the line up.
The best sessions this weekend for me where in Finca, but I wouldn't say the line up in general is better than LR and Sharks at the moment.[/QUOTE]I confirm on 7 October I could go with 10 attractive look girls at LR, last Friday I could go with amazing body Linda, very pretty Antonella, Maria, Erika, Karina, Amira, I m not so attracted by Beatrice but she would be among the pretty at Sharks, I made the mistake to go with Esta. De, after my exceptional Romanian who is a real top GFE, so 8 attractive girls for my tastes. Also, Nora. Ru, Sofia and Gigi. Lily. Ru, Viktoria. Bu were missing. Name 8 attractive look girls at Sharks?
My new challenge is: from tomorrow, how long to be able to stand up? My friend will be at LR on this week end, he said to me I m crazy and he knows how I can be, will I be able for my Medusa? She worth I cry from pain, just to dream.
[QUOTE=DaWong949;1951881]That is main reason I enjoy Oase more than others. 1) Free WiFi where you can connect to work or browse news. 2) Quite room upstairs where you can really sleep if you want. 3) Better lighting. So you can see better on girls face and body.
Of course, the most important is quality of lu. For me if there are pretty much the same, I will stay at Oase.[/QUOTE]I am so disappointed that I agree. Oase is the better club now. Some seriously bad choices. For me, it will be "the summer of World" (E. G the summer of George to all you Seinfeld aficionados).
[QUOTE=Craiova;1951982]Hmm it seems I have usually always different opinion than you.
2.) IMHO prostitution helps families / marriages more than damages.[/QUOTE]Are you including male prostitutes too in your panoramic vision?
Let's assume you are married, would you be willing to give the same amount of money you spend for prostitutes to your wife, so that she can do whatever she likes with that money?
ExpatLover takes on the standard reasoning by feminists in much of the world. Doesn't mean it is very liberal. So it depends on what people want. Facism or liberalism. To me it is blatantly obvious that happy married men would never use a prostitute or pay for sex. But for the unhappy, it can help them finding a balance. Pluss we are all sexual individuals. So why not experiment with different partners too? The marrige institution had its purpose in the past when survival and wars were part of the world. It is a big subject I won't go into here, but survival on farms with child labor is not that important today, and unless you are for wars and are racist wanting to overtake the world, then getting 20 children is less important (although some ethnic groups especially in africa still feel that way). So the marrige institution is at pressure. Besides, governmental programs should help rise birth rates anyway. Much more than they do today. In a way the nazis did get that part right in some sense.
[QUOTE=NotSavvy;1951983]Agree.
To correctly transmit information, instead of saying "LU of Sharks is not good", we must say "LU of Sharks do not particularly attract me."[/QUOTE]You are right, when I m more attracted by LR or Globe casting at the moment, it s only my subjective tastes and experiences with top GFE, like each time I write on this forum, but if there is a guy who will never be said what to write, I think I m a real free mind and You know where I stay, not a ghost. Few months ago, I often wrote Sharks casting was the best in Germany, but not since May for me, despite 3 really high level rooms on this summer. Not only Hessen for FKK land, NRW is high level for me since Summer, at GT, Samya, PHG and now LR, and Aca will improve soon. I don t care about clubs, all are just brothels, I go where girls make me dream, sometimes only one like at Samya or PHG or Aca is enough.
On this or other forums, some guys seem more and more often disappointed by Sharks casting, but some only know Sharks, even only Sylvana would stay. FKK land is huge to discover and Zurich is not more far for me.
Each one his experiences of course.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1952068]I confirm on 7 October I could go with 10 attractive look girls at LR, last Friday I could go with amazing body Linda, very pretty Antonella, Maria, Erika, Karina, Amira, I m not so attracted by Beatrice but she would be among the pretty at Sharks, I made the mistake to go with Esta. De, after my exceptional Romanian who is a real top GFE, so 8 attractive girls for my tastes. Also, Nora. Ru, Sofia and Gigi. Lily. Ru, Viktoria. Bu were missing. Name 8 attractive look girls at Sharks?
My new challenge is: from tomorrow, how long to be able to stand up? My friend will be at LR on this week end, he said to me I m crazy and he knows how I can be, will I be able for my Medusa? She worth I cry from pain, just to dream.[/QUOTE]I don't agree with all those girls (for instance Beatrice being "pretty" in Sharks) and in all honesty, the butt of Amira would stand out negatively in a FKK club, as would the bored expression of Erika. But some of those girls are nice enough and this last Friday Nora, Sofia and Gigi were there as well.
That still doesn't mean it compares well with the likes of Megan, Sidonia, Sasha, Madelina, Anja, Maria, Cosmina, Roxana, Laura, Ramona, Erica, Bella, Evita, Melanie and another 20 I don't know by name.
Only talking about looks off course, the majority of both lists is average at best what service is concerned.
[QUOTE=FreeDude;1952294]I don't agree with all those girls (for instance Beatrice being "pretty" in Sharks) and in all honesty, the butt of Amira would stand out negatively in a FKK club, as would the bored expression of Erika. But some of those girls are nice enough and this last Friday Nora, Sofia and Gigi were there as well.
That still doesn't mean it compares well with the likes of Megan, Sidonia, Sasha, Madelina, Anja, Maria, Cosmina, Roxana, Laura, Ramona, Erica, Bella, Evita, Melanie and another 20 I don't know by name.
Only talking about looks off course, the majority of both lists is average at best what service is concerned.[/QUOTE]I think we were both at LR on Friday 14 October, you didn't enjoy, I enjoyed a lot my girl. Except Megan, I prefer my LR list than your Sharks list, except Anja, Melani, Roxana before silicon and Cosmina when I discovered Sharks, I never went to the others, even Madalina is always lovely. Just my subjective tastes of course. When Erika likes You, she smiles. I like woman curves like Amira, Linda or Agnes at Sharks.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1951982]Hmm it seems I have usually always different opinion than you.
1.) Even some politician use this figure I guess around 200000 prostitutes in Germany. 2.) IMHO prostitution help families / marriages more than damages. 3.) IMHO the (new) law ofc touching the freedom of prostitution with registeration and condom duty and other rules. 4.) Escorts are easy to control and I doubt escorts like the idea of registeration, FKK club girls have less problems with this.[/QUOTE]Just have a look on this, minimum 400.000 [URL]http://web.de/magazine/wirtschaft/milliardenumsatz-schattengewerbe-zahlen-fakten-prostitution-deutschland-31478544[/URL], I don believe that escort are easier to control (far more mobile that the girls in the FKK).
[QUOTE=Pistons;1952126]ExpatLover takes on the standard reasoning by feminists in much of the world. Doesn't mean it is very liberal. So it depends on what people want. Facism or liberalism. To me it is blatantly obvious that happy married men would never use a prostitute or pay for sex. But for the unhappy, it can help them finding a balance. Pluss we are all sexual individuals. So why not experiment with different partners too? The marrige institution had its purpose in the past when survival and wars were part of the world. It is a big subject I won't go into here, but survival on farms with child labor is not that important today, and unless you are for wars and are racist wanting to overtake the world, then getting 20 children is less important (although some ethnic groups especially in africa still feel that way). So the marrige institution is at pressure. Besides, governmental programs should help rise birth rates anyway. Much more than they do today. In a way the nazis did get that part right in some sense.[/QUOTE]The offer can also create the demand, my thinking was just to say there is huge P6 offer in Germany that is creating some issues in the German families because the spouses and girlfriends are not stupid and they can also imagine that their own husband is also visiting the clubs. Many German customers are over 40 YO married etc. Now if you think that the Nazis brought something positive I will never follow you in that direction.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1952514]The offer can also create the demand, my thinking was just to say there is huge P6 offer in Germany that is creating some issues in the German families because the spouses and girlfriends are not stupid and they can also imagine that their own husband is also visiting the clubs. Many German customers are over 40 YO married etc. Now if you think that the Nazis brought something positive I will never follow you in that direction.[/QUOTE]Talking to some German girls who work in the club they said they know their brother siblings who are married go visit the FKKs and brothels. One of these German girls said if they ever saw their brother come into the club she would tell his wife he is fucking prostitutes.
Girls did not mebtion if they knew their fathers were going to FKKs. I guess as children it is hard to imgaine your parents as sexual.
[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;1952010]I have not seen Saskia (ex-Palace or does she still work there too?) for over a year- last time I saw her was in 2015 in Palace- after a 5 year absence (wow!)- see my report on the Palace thread- and I got her number but sadly I've lost it during one of my SIM card changes. Anyway, though no longer the stunning beauty she was in her younger days- she must be in her late 30's by now- if she is still working- she is like an old favorite that you always go back to. So, if anyone knows if she is still working in Sharks (or Palace or both) I'd be grateful if you let me know and I'd be even more grateful if you could get me her contact details again (in private message of course). If Saskia works at Sharks what days and times and where does she sit?
If she is still working I can make a detour after my trip to Vienna and visit Sharks / Palace.
Many thanks! (The other old favorite I'd like to see again is the legendary Indira of ex-Palace fame (whose photo in black and white still hangs at the entrance! The sassy Romanian on high stilt-like shoes and an incredible body. Last I heard she was at Dolce Vita but wasn't working that day when I visited last year![/QUOTE]I have not seen Saskia de at Sharks through any of ny September and October visits to Sharks. Last I saw Saksia at Sharks was May / June time when a group of Palace girls transferred to Sharks.
Some german girls told me it s difficult to find a faithful and serious BF, because of all low rate paid sex in Germany. Maybe why they prefer Turkish or Albanian pimp.
Also danger for wives whose husbands go to fuck AO and fuck their wife after.
[QUOTE=FreeDude;1952294]That still doesn't mean it compares well with the likes of Megan, Sidonia, Sasha, Madelina, Anja, Maria, Cosmina, Roxana, Laura, Ramona, Erica, Bella, Evita, Melanie and another 20 I don't know by name.[/QUOTE]You forgot Anna, Ariana, Mersi, Sandra and Dina gives us a fantasy.
[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;1952010]So, if anyone knows if she is still working in Sharks (or Palace or both)[/QUOTE]I saw her at Sharks 8th and 9th of September.
Shark is my last day for my Current trip. I was pretty happy when I was here last May and one night layover in Aug. Arrived at the club around 3:30 pm after I checked in to Maritin koference near Train station. Got my self settled after shower, food etc. Walk around a little bit and did not find Yvette. Met Ester which I thought got some weight. She was asking me if I wanted a new girl and I told her that I just got in and would like to look around. She walked away not happily. (Can not make everyone happy).
I was sitting at the bar sipping water or whatever, a pretty tall well built dark hair lady walked to me and asked me if I were.
Medical Doctor. Strange like that, I asked her why she thought I was a MD. She said you had glass and that look. What the heck?
Anyway, we chatted a little bit and when she introduced herself as Megan. I was telling her that I heated of her name all over the place. She said she knew. She seems like a nice girl and I asked her what she would not do. She said no anal which I never cared.
Before we went the room, I told her I was pretty wiped out in last 4-5 days. I may needed more time and it was not going to come easy. She smiled and said no problem. (they all tell you no problem before room, don't they).
Well, ever since I discover FKK land, all my victims were either bloody or brunette. Dark hair was not my favorite one. If she did not approached me first, I might not go in tot he room with her. She look nice after talking to her for a while, however she was not stunner in my book. We had a good time, I got released and fucked her really hard for a long time (at least, I felt that way). After she cleaned me up, she said, she thought my dick was normal size and was much bigger than most my East Asian fellows. She also thought that I might not fuck that hard. Felling good (although it could be she just flattering me, I don't care). I paid for her time which is 1 1/2 HR. We kissed goodbye and she said 2nd round later? I smiled back and said If I could have energy back.
It turned out she was going to be my last FKK girl on my trip this time. I walked the and chatted with a fellow from Ohio, we had some nice talk about life and those airline mileage programs.
I visited Sharks last night, after some months away. I was disappointed that 2 regular girls (Helli and Patricia) were not there.
There were 2 girls I that I was interested in who disappeared when I was ready for a session: they were spending time with the Dominican (I think) girl with the big ass. One girl was dark-skinned but not the darkest girl in the group (maybe Dominican) and slim, and the other girl was Asian, ok body, with dyed blonde hair. Does anyone know who these girls are, or how their service is?
After some time browsing, I finally found a girl for a session:
Diana (Ro) - fantastic natural see-cup tits, dyed blonde hair. She said she would do kissing with 1-hour, and would charge extra for FIV. We went to the room for an hour, with very light kissing (not great), BBBJ and mediocre BLS, and I finished in missionary. After a short break, we had a round2, with doggy (where I held her arms together behind her back. Was fun), and I had trouble finishing so she went back to BBBJ while I made myself finish with my hand until CIM. Her personality was fun, but it was not a great session. Rating 5/10,150 euros for one hour + CIM.
After that, I was very tired, and left the club earlier than I had planned. I'm hoping Helli and Patricia will be there later this weekend.
[QUOTE=NF4591;1952639]
Diana (Ro) - fantastic natural see-cup tits, dyed blonde hair. She said she would do kissing with 1-hour, and would charge extra for FIV. We went to the room for an hour, with very light kissing (not great), BBBJ and mediocre BLS, and I finished in missionary. [/QUOTE]Diana actually is one of the prettiest girls at Sharks. And one of the worst sessions also.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1952651]Diana actually is one of the prettiest girls at Sharks. And one of the worst sessions also.
HB.[/QUOTE]Superb natural tits, beautiful slim body, but face is average for me, reason why I never tried. I need to kiss, but I don't like to kiss girls if face doesn't attract me.
[QUOTE=NF4591;1952639]
Diana (Ro) - fantastic natural see-cup tits, dyed blonde hair. She said she would do kissing with 1-hour, and would charge extra for FIV. We went to the room for an hour, with very light kissing (not great), [/QUOTE]Usually like that when the girl only kiss with 1 h I. E. Kissing less than 1 min, LOL.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1952651]Diana actually is one of the prettiest girls at Sharks. And one of the worst sessions also.
HB.[/QUOTE]Think her looks def. The main reason why she has managed to survive this long in the shark tank. The few times I saw her she wasnt that busy and that should be a warning sign as girls with similar looks + good service wud've been busy.
theres a girl with similar looks to Diana i.e. body type and tits with black hair think they used or still hang around. anyone knows if her service is good? talked to her before but gets similar vibe from her as Diana so never pulled the trigger.
[QUOTE=CitizenKane;1952628]I saw her at Sharks 8th and 9th of September.[/QUOTE]I visited Sharks 6 times in September but they were all after the 8 to 9 September so that may explain it. Good spot.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1952671]Usually like that when the girl only kiss with 1 h I. E. Kissing less than 1 min, LOL.
[/QUOTE]I approached her twice so I had some interest in her. I got the same proposal and decided against it. Well, it sounds to me like my intuition wasn't wrong after all. Vibes weren't right when talking to her.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1952680]I approached her twice so I had some interest in her. I got the same proposal and decided against it. Well, it sounds to me like my intuition wasn't wrong after all. Vibes weren't right when talking to her.[/QUOTE]I rejected her the 1st time she approached bc of it but let my guard down when I saw her again few months later. My worst session ever at Sharks bc she suddenly wanted 50 e more 4 kissing in the room. I thought she was joking but she kept bringing this up so that kinda killed the mood and kissing lasted less than 1 min I think. Her BJ was pretty good and she's a pretty good fuck.
Also wanted tip when I handed her the 50 e, LOL.
Still can't help looking at her when she walks by but wud never take her to the room again when theres so many other options around.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1952687]I rejected her the 1st time she approached bc of it but let my guard down when I saw her again few months later. My worst session ever at Sharks bc she suddenly wanted 50 e more 4 kissing in the room. I thought she was joking but she kept bringing this up so that kinda killed the mood and kissing lasted less than 1 min I think. Her BJ was pretty good and she's a pretty good fuck.
Also wanted tip when I handed her the 50 e, LOL.
Still can't help looking at her when she walks by but wud never take her to the room again when theres so many other options around.[/QUOTE]Like Ada who was a quite good and friendly surprise, I think better to say to Diana it depends on her behavior to stay 1 hour, Ada understood very fast and we stayed 1 enjoyable hour. She proposed CIM, but didn't insist. Many times she asked me why I didn't want to repeat, not because of her behavior, just a spicy skin taste, I prefer white skin taste.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1952687]I rejected her the 1st time she approached bc of it but let my guard down when I saw her again few months later. My worst session ever at Sharks bc she suddenly wanted 50 e more 4 kissing in the room. I thought she was joking but she kept bringing this up so that kinda killed the mood and kissing lasted less than 1 min I think. Her BJ was pretty good and she's a pretty good fuck.
Also wanted tip when I handed her the 50 e, LOL.
Still can't help looking at her when she walks by but wud never take her to the room again when theres so many other options around.[/QUOTE]I also declined the same offer with Sabine, and does't sound like it was worth it either.
Too bad because I was so attracted to Sabine. I was eyeing her the whole time. Vibes wasn't right, and I was not meant to have her.
There were girls that were crap sessions and I can't help but stare as opti. They seem to pop out in the field of view, eyeballs keep panning that way. LOL. It's terrible I tell ya, just terrible.
Sometimes our eyes takes over eventhough our brain says not a good idea.
Some girls are so obvious they hate the work.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1952511]Just have a look on this, minimum 400.000 [URL]http://web.de/magazine/wirtschaft/milliardenumsatz-schattengewerbe-zahlen-fakten-prostitution-deutschland-31478544[/URL], I don believe that escort are easier to control (far more mobile that the girls in the FKK).[/QUOTE]Just look in the final version of the new prostitution law for July 1st, 2017, even there all calculations are based on the figure of 200.000 prostitutes in Germany.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1952651]Diana actually is one of the prettiest girls at Sharks. And one of the worst sessions also.[/QUOTE]Part one agree, part 2 there are very good chances having there even more worse sessions than with Diana.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1952673]I visited Sharks 6 times in September but they were all after the 8 to 9 September so that may explain it. Good spot.[/QUOTE]Just ask Cz Hannah at Sharks about Saskia, she can tell you where she is.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1952695]Like Ada who was a quite good and friendly surprise, I think better to say to Diana it depends on her behavior to stay 1 hour, Ada understood very fast and we stayed 1 enjoyable hour. She proposed CIM, but didn't insist. Many times she asked me why I didn't want to repeat, not because of her behavior, just a spicy skin taste, I prefer white skin taste.[/QUOTE]You tell her that you prefer white skin taste? LOL.
I actually think she's fairly white compared to many other girls there.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1952733]I also declined the same offer with Sabine, and does't sound like it was worth it either.
Too bad because I was so attracted to Sabine. I was eyeing her the whole time. Vibes wasn't right, and I was not meant to have her.
There were girls that were crap sessions and I can't help but stare as opti. They seem to pop out in the field of view, eyeballs keep panning that way. LOL. It's terrible I tell ya, just terrible.
Sometimes our eyes takes over eventhough our brain says not a good idea.
Some girls are so obvious they hate the work.[/QUOTE]I did the same thing think she doesn't kiss or only in 1 h session. Not the type I usually wud go for but she does look good with stockings.
Indeed can't help to look but wud avoid any eye contact, LOL.
If its that obvious that she hates the work then you can imagine how its going to be like in the room.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1952751]Part one agree, part 2 there are very good chances having there even more worse sessions than with Diana.[/QUOTE]Sure you can have worse sessions. Difficult but possible. That's why I said "one of the worst sessions" and not "the worst session".
HB.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1952846]You tell her that you prefer white skin taste? LOL.
I actually think she's fairly white compared to many other girls there.[/QUOTE]Ada was really a nice surprise for her behavior in room, much better than in lounge, so, I never dare to tell her my reason not to repeat, because she really worth to repeat. Fake blond, but gypsy type. Beyonce was also a nice surprise and so friendly when we had diner after room, but same type. Same for pretty Helli, reason why I never went to her, even I may be too big for her and she knows I write on internet, she told about to my friend, he doesn't write. But as told me Erika, all girls at Sharks and even at World know, at least they have something to speak about when they warm their ass sitting waiting for business.
Diana seems more white skin, she went to me after my room with Ada, they are often together. Wait and see, beautiful eyes but not exceptional face, but sexy body.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1952864]Sure you can have worse sessions. Difficult but possible. That's why I said "one of the worst sessions" and not "the worst session".[/QUOTE]Difficult?
At a standard 50 Euro session what all you still expect. And for definition that includes a good mood, best case even some fun, girl try to please you, allow you full penetration in some positions without complaining about to servive or too long, looks at you even smile, DFK and gives a good BJ and allow DADY. This is for me a good session. Maybe do BL and allow FIP or FIA. In general to give the client a good time and a good feeling for 50 euro within 30 minutes.
And I hate and usually I don't pre room interrogation with the girl that ends in a valid business contract bc this should kills mood on both sides. So I'm a stranger at that club, don't do pre room inquisition and say in any case I make only a 50 euro session and just go without negotiating anything with this new girl in room, how I've done this the last ten years.
And than it should be difficult to get a bad session? , sorry I see this reversed I need a lot of luck to find a good 50 euro session.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1952882]
At a standard 50 Euro session what all you still expect. And for definition that includes a good mood, best case even some fun, girl try to please you, allow you full penetration in some positions without complaining about to servive or too long, looks at you even smile, DFK and gives a good BJ and allow DADY. This is for me a good session. Maybe do BL and allow FIP or FIA. In general to give the client a good time and a good feeling for 50 euro within 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]And Diana failed in all aspects. Really all. No good mood. No fun. No kissing. Horrible BJ. DATY I don't remember, must have been bad then. For sure not FIP or FIA or BL. No full penetration. No good time, not even 30 min for the 50. But: great body and tits. The tits were why I booked her when she walked by at Oase. I think we exchanged like two sentences before going to the room. I wanted those tits, they looked fake, had to touch and fondle them. Did that. They are naturals.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1952900]And Diana failed in all aspects. Really all. No good mood. No fun. No kissing. Horrible BJ. DATY I don't remember, must have been bad then. For sure not FIP or FIA or BL. No full penetration. No good time, not even 30 min for the 50. But: great body and tits. The tits were why I booked her when she walked by at Oase. I think we exchanged like two sentences before going to the room. I wanted those tits, they looked fake, had to touch and fondle them. Did that. They are naturals.
HB.[/QUOTE]You tried Diana at Oase? Maybe You should try her at Sharks, sometimes girls change behavior and services according to club standards.
Beatrice ex Oase also gets beautiful natural firm tits. No silicon.
Diana, Beatrice, Janine and Mersi for tits club, with master Brandy / Leya for 90 E cup. Helli for pointing nipples. Ariana at World for nipples hidden inside but so funny to make them going outside, licking them.
Thanks for the info about Saskia. Sadly, since I currently don't live in Germany, I can't just go to Sharks or Palace to check. I guess I could call the club beforehand?
BTW all this talk about which club has the most beautiful girls -- beauty is subjective!
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1952900]And Diana failed in all aspects. Really all. No good mood. No fun. No kissing. Horrible BJ. DATY I don't remember, must have been bad then. For sure not FIP or FIA or BL. No full penetration. No good time, not even 30 min for the 50. But: great body and tits. The tits were why I booked her when she walked by at Oase. I think we exchanged like two sentences before going to the room. I wanted those tits, they looked fake, had to touch and fondle them. Did that. They are naturals.[/QUOTE]Indeed, Diana has a fantastic look, she is all natural, she is pretty and for Siri to get a boner she is blonde with white skin (not dark skin).
The way I see it: Diana is not a good service provider. I do not know why she is like the way she is, she must realize that she can be a top earner if she gave a bit better service or took more interest in her customers like Megan does or Evita who does extremely well here in the empathy stakes with men to the point men can write that Evita has fallen in love with them. But Diana does not. She must be weaving a shield around herself when doing this job to not become involved and to do as less so she is not comfortable doing more. As always we are dealing with natural persons and they do not act with economic rationale: better service = more customers = more cash.
So the approach that is taken with Diana is to take her aside, have her sit with you, preferably on your lap so you can fondle her and get some couch time. You say to her what it is that you after for the 50 euro, thta may have to be limited for the likes of Diana to sucking and fucking and touch her everywhere but with fingers there is nothing going inside of her, you may not get far on the kissing front, but accept that if you are like Finnish Fucker who is not interested in that aspect. Then Diana can be a good session within her limits.
Yes, this is an interrogation as Craiova puts it, but at least you have cleared the air so you know what you will get. I think half of the disappointment factor in the average or mediocre rating for a session was one goes in thinking they will get this or that but then come up short when it does not happen. If you know its a suck and fuck then you are not disappointing and the ill feeling does not stay with you to the extent that you write about that bad feeling in pay sex forums giving a negative review.
Some girl reports.
[B] Megan ro [/B]
Long straight black hair, tall slim build girl with a blatant red tattoo down her side of her torso. Pretty face. Breasts are modest so if you are after breasts then do look past Megan. She sits on the couches that sit back against the stairs landing for the stairs that go up to the first floor hall of rooms. Megan does deep french kiss in a 30 minutes session and it was nice. She has a very good memory so there has to be some recognition that one must be aware about when encountering Megan. She wipes your cock with a wet wipe which I do not like. I give more points to the girls that do not spoil the mood with using a wet wipe before sucking cock. I always shower before I take a girl to the room. The blowjob is good and Megan even attempts to deep throat by plunging her throat to the base or at least she tries and looks up to see your reaction. Licking her out did not garner a reaction and Megan says she rarely if ever comes to the point of not recalling if she has come from DATY from customers so what she is saying is not to be put off from that she does not look like she is enjoying herself from your DATY performance. Onto the fucking. She does allow multi positions and looks great in most of the positions chosen since Megan has good looks. In missionary, Megan does not always look you in the eyes going into a half faraway gaze like soldiers get when shell shocked.
[B] Brandy ro [/B]
Black hair, an unusual face, seems to be a type to not notice her surroundings as she walks around the club. Slim body but with massive E cup breasts that are natural and hang heavy on her slight frame. In the room she was a mediocre performer. She was okay to suck your cock and to kiss and she did kiss but the fucking was less than exemplary as she has a tendency to restrict entry since you fuck her and you are like bending your cock like you are flexing a plastic ruler. She does CIM and this is an okay way to finish as that seems to be her strong point. So this was 100 euro in damage.
[B] Valentina ro [/B]
Tall, pale skin, many tattooes, a bit chunky in look, fake tits but well proportioned and good looking tits. She claimed she kissed in a 30 minutes session when this question was put to her but in the room she kissed just superficially. Not a big problem and I do not get so disappointed with girls who do not provide enthusiastic kissing in a 50 euro session. Okay one to satisfy the itch but that is it. Another 50 euro.
[B] Vivian ro [/B]
Vivian is ex Palace and ex Golden Time. She has been working a long time. Good memory. She is a reddish blonde (streaks). Slim build. A bit on the experienced side of veteran in look. She was a good performer and she take the time to sit with you on the couch. She is a non stop sucker and fucker in the room. She does not need to do extras for me to make me stay in the room. Vivian enages her customer and divines what his needs are. Okay she is here for the money and she will take another customer if its in her interests to do that instead of sitting on the couch with you talking bullshit. Well recommended.
[B] Gipsy ro [/B]
I fucked a gipsy to even out the variety. She was not a good performer and I do not recall too much else.
I was sad about one little blonde girl. No it was not Mersi the Hungarian but another one.
[B] Mila ro [/B]
Mila is a slim, nice firm natural be cup (maybe see cup) breasted girl with a shapely ass whose cheeks when manhandled open, does show off her gaping bum hole. She kisses vivaciously but I think she pulls back with the use of the tongue, retracting hers as you push in yours but the kisses are open mouthed still if you are understanding the situation that I describe. She can be porn star like and seems to enjoy putting on a show especially in a mirrored room if she notices you moving her around into position so you can see her sucking you off or watching you both fucking in the mirror reflection. DATY with Mila is a joy as she seems to enjoy it and gives a fantastic impression that she comes with all the usual cyprine secretion that comes with orgasm reaction. Her blowjob is the best I think as in sex Mila puts on way too much lube that I am sliding in feeling no friction so that was not so pleasing and it was the same the second time around. You can see Mila wiping her hands on the bed sheets as she has so much lube on her hands after applying a generous dollop on the condom encased cock. Mila has a mouth and she knows how to use it all over your body if that is your thing. She voices her encouragement and is vocal with it. She allows CIM and happy sucks you off until you finish holding you in her mouth to the end spurts and involuntary cock pumps dissipate. Highly recommended.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1952973]Some girl reports.
[B] Brandy ro [/B]
In the room she was a mediocre performer. She was okay to suck your cock and to kiss and she did kiss but the fucking was less than exemplary as she has a tendency to restrict entry since you fuck her and you are like bending your cock like you are flexing a plastic ruler. She does CIM and this is an okay way to finish as that seems to be her strong point. So this was 100 euro in damage.
[/QUOTE]First off: Thanks so much for taking the time to post these very well-written and detailed girl reports. Such a joy to see this kind of reporting coming back to these threads. I'm sure somebody will add them to the Hall of Fame. :)
About Brandy (used to call herself Leya, right? If I recall, more than a year ago, when posts about her first started to appear on this thread (it may have been Syz who posted about her first? She was described as being a rather intense and very good kisser, as if this was one of her strong suits. But if I read your comments correctly, you mention her kissing but not in any kind of extra-ordinary way. Well, she's been in the business a while now (always present at the very end of the circular bar, just off from the kino), so maybe some aspects of her performance are a bit jaded now, or she, as might be natural, reserves herself for regular / repeat customers?
I myself have never roomed with her, though lots of chances to do so: I just always found "the vibe" a bit lacking, sometimes I would pick up on a bit of "beech-ey" attitude, but it's tough to be sure unless you actually push the button on her. Some time ago, on a busy Saturday night last January I think, I was upstairs waiting with a girl in queue for a room. There were several of us waiting, some of us more than happy with a hot girl on our lap and engaging in some light petting and making out a bit. This Brandy was behind us in the queue with her customer, but one observed hardly any "chemistry" between her and the man, but what really struck me was how she tried to "cut the line" in front of some of us, trying to snag a room before it was her proper turn in the queue. She got many bad looks and a few harsh words from some of the other girls, LOL.
[QUOTE=Ortos;1953058]First off: Thanks so much for taking the time to post these very well-written and detailed girl reports. Such a joy to see this kind of reporting coming back to these threads. I'm sure somebody will add them to the Hall of Fame. :)
About Brandy (used to call herself Leya, right? If I recall, more than a year ago, when posts about her first started to appear on this thread (it may have been Syz who posted about her first? She was described as being a rather intense and very good kisser, as if this was one of her strong suits. But if I read your comments correctly, you mention her kissing but not in any kind of extra-ordinary way. Well, she's been in the business a while now (always present at the very end of the circular bar, just off from the kino), so maybe some aspects of her performance are a bit jaded now, or she, as might be natural, reserves herself for regular / repeat customers?
I myself have never roomed with her, though lots of chances to do so: I just always found "the vibe" a bit lacking, sometimes I would pick up on a bit of "beech-ey" attitude, but it's tough to be sure unless you actually push the button on her. Some time ago, on a busy Saturday night last January I think, I was upstairs waiting with a girl in queue for a room. There were several of us waiting, some of us more than happy with a hot girl on our lap and engaging in some light petting and making out a bit. This Brandy was behind us in the queue with her customer, but one observed hardly any "chemistry" between her and the man, but what really struck me was how she tried to "cut the line" in front of some of us, trying to snag a room before it was her proper turn in the queue. She got many bad looks and a few harsh words from some of the other girls, LOL.[/QUOTE]Sorry but really I don't understand most of the guys who are looking for kissing girls, personally I never put my tongue in the mouth of a prostitute who sucked so many cocks from every where in the world in the last days and in which so many CIM have be done too. Sometimes some girls try to please me and start to kiss me I always.
Politely decline. I reserve it for my girlfriend. But not for prostitute may be I am stupid.
Ever come to a light and look over and see a cutie playing with her hair and you can only wish that you'd be able to bend her over and do her from behind? Then the light changes and your back in reality.
So I'm driving to sharks and come to the two lanes that turn onto g strassa and see the girl in the car next to me is a cute chick playing with her hair. She gets in front of me and I'm watching and waiting, then she turns into sharks.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1953084]Ever come to a light and look over and see a cutie playing with her hair and you can only wish that you'd be able to bend her over and do her from behind? Then the light changes and your back in reality.
So I'm driving to sharks and come to the two lanes that turn onto g strassa and see the girl in the car next to me is a cute chick playing with her hair. She gets in front of me and I'm watching and waiting, then she turns into sharks.[/QUOTE]Session with her? A saucy report is much appreciated for completing our erotic fantasy. Lol...
[QUOTE=Ortos;1953058]About Brandy (used to call herself Leya, right? If I recall, more than a year ago, when posts about her first started to appear on this thread (it may have been Syz who posted about her first? She was described as being a rather intense and very good kisser, as if this was one of her strong suits. But if I read your comments correctly, you mention her kissing but not in any kind of extra-ordinary way. Well, she's been in the business a while now (always present at the very end of the circular bar, just off from the kino), so maybe some aspects of her performance are a bit jaded now, or she, as might be natural, reserves herself for regular / repeat customers? [/QUOTE]Well, I sessioned with her in her "Leyla's" times. Session wasn't bad, but not to repeat. I din't remember she tried to restrict penetration. I assume that after time been her pussy suffers and now she now tries to reduce damage. I have a trick. If girl takes position to restrict penetration I put her on her side. Lower leg stretched, apper bent or lifted up. I sit on her lower leg. She has no chance to restrict penetration. From other hand it looks like she does not suffer in this position.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1953104]Well, I sessioned with her in her "Leyla's" times. Session wasn't bad, but not to repeat. I din't remember she tried to restrict penetration. I assume that after time been her pussy suffers and now she now tries to reduce damage. I have a trick. If girl takes position to restrict penetration I put her on her side. Lower leg stretched, upper bent or lifted up. I sit on her lower leg. She has no chance to restrict penetration. From other hand it looks like she does not suffer in this position.[/QUOTE]Like this but the lower leg under you and straight out on the bed? [URL]https://goo.gl/s4DvQ8[/URL].
Or maybe you meant something like this: [URL]https://goo.gl/xQ2K4Q[/URL].
Or perhaps you would prefer to choose a better illustration from one of these images? [URL]https://goo.gl/e22Krs[/URL].
Another position for me to try next time! (now all the girls at Sharks will wonder, "Why are all the men wanting to try this position all of a sudden?" haha!
More and more girls migrated from other FKK clubs, competition and tensions among girls are higher.
At Tuesday's visit of Shark, I gave a two-hour-session to Romanian girl. She appreciated I saved her day. In last half chat session, she complained that business was so slow and there was too much stress to get a customer. Then she said however Romanian girl could not work like these Hungarian sisters to please customers for big money. I knew she was talking about Dina and Nicoletta. Even if I am not Dina's regular, I still tried to defend Dina. The Romanian girl said, every Romanian girl knew the Hungarian sisters did dirty works to please customer for money, so there are a lot of American, Asian, and Arabian come to club asked for Dina and her sister.
Then I said I hadn't seen Dina in club for a while and She might be away for vacation. The Romanian girl said thanks God if those two sisters would never come back anymore. LOL.
Later afternoon, I went to room with an ex-Globe German girl L, she is very popular. She dislikes some Romanian girls, however she also abhorred the small Hungarian group. She said Dina is very arrogant, just because she has ways to get big money from customers, she (Dina) acts as if she herself were the princess of whole club. So what, no German girl would like to talk to her.
I was shocked to hear this German girl said so. It seems that more and more girls would become moody and stressful. The good services would be harder to get. So I decided to temporally stop visiting Shark for a while. Might resume visiting mid-November.
Talked to one of my repeats today at Sharks and I mentioned that I had a trip planned for next year and that I'd look for her. She said "if I'm still at Sharks" then went on about all of these rules in Germany and that she would be trying to move out of the country and work elsewhere.
And at ortos, couldn't find your latest reviews naming girls in the clubs, feel free to link them in the reports of distinction thread if you can find any.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1953360]Talked to one of my repeats today at Sharks and I mentioned that I had a trip planned for next year and that I'd look for her. She said "if I'm still at Sharks" then went on about all of these rules in Germany and that she would be trying to move out of the country and work elsewhere.
And at ortos, couldn't find your latest reviews naming girls in the clubs, feel free to link them in the reports of distinction thread if you can find any.[/QUOTE]For me it is obvious that the new law will change the things in the Germany, for those who know well Germany they are aware that the real target of this law is not only to protect the women but also and may be mainly to reduce the number of prostitute in Germany by creating a kind of unsafe feeling / environment for the girls and their support to push them to move to other countries. The story about the use of the condom is only a pretext to intensify the controls asking for example to the girls where they live, with whom, how they come to the clubs etc. This could afraid some girls mostly the youngest one but the girls with a clear status will not suffer from this may be even benefit from the new situation because it could reduce the number of girls and so the competition. I still very confident to get BJ without in the coming years.
I am planning a stopover in Frankfurt from Thu, Jan 26 morning. Sat, Jan 28th morning. In my two day stopover, I intend to do a city tour on Friday morning and spend rest of my time in FKKs. From all the reading I did on this forum, I have determined that Sharks seems like a best FKK in Frankfurt because of its multiple entry option, its facility, food and variety of girls. I had thought about going to Oase and FKK world, but I don't have that much time to explore and get disappointed. My only problem with Sharks is its location and hotels close to that location. I am from California and I feel comfortable staying in the Marriott, Hilton and even the best westerns. I do not feel comfortable staying in smaller dated European style hotels (sorry, mean no dis-respect). So I am torn on where I should stay during those two days. On Thu, I plan to make at least 2-3 trips to sharks, on Friday, I am planning a city tour during day time and then head to sharks later in the afternoon, may be once or twice. Plan to rest in my hotel during breaks. Should I get a hotel in Darmstadt, near Frankfurt Airport (hotels are cheaper close to airport) or City center near central station / Frankfurt financial district. I realize that Sharks is near Darmstadt Nord and a train ride from Darmstadt Nord to city center central station is 30 minutes. Advice guys? Would really appreciate it.
Thanks,
JB.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1953254]
Or maybe you meant something like this: [URL]https://goo.gl/xQ2K4Q[/URL].
[/QUOTE]The female's position in that graphic is what Leya / Brandy is most relaxed in. Except she want me basically to be on my knees, body position vertical, upright, straight and perpindicular to bed.
[QUOTE=JBoarman;1953365]I am planning a stopover in Frankfurt from Thu, Jan 26 morning. Sat, Jan 28th morning. In my two day stopover, I intend to do a city tour on Friday morning and spend rest of my time in FKKs. From all the reading I did on this forum, I have determined that Sharks seems like a best FKK in Frankfurt because of its multiple entry option, its facility, food and variety of girls. I had thought about going to Oase and FKK world, but I don't have that much time to explore and get disappointed. My only problem with Sharks is its location and hotels close to that location. I am from California and I feel comfortable staying in the Marriott, Hilton and even the best westerns. I do not feel comfortable staying in smaller dated European style hotels (sorry, mean no dis-respect). So I am torn on where I should stay during those two days. On Thu, I plan to make at least 2-3 trips to sharks, on Friday, I am planning a city tour during day time and then head to sharks later in the afternoon, may be once or twice. Plan to rest in my hotel during breaks. Should I get a hotel in Darmstadt, near Frankfurt Airport (hotels are cheaper close to airport) or City center near central station / Frankfurt financial district. I realize that Sharks is near Darmstadt Nord and a train ride from Darmstadt Nord to city center central station is 30 minutes. Advice guys? Would really appreciate it.
Thanks,
JB.[/QUOTE]JB,
No Hilton nor SPG near sharks which is in Darmsdadt. I normally stay at Maritim Konference next to main train station. The hotel look old from outside, but it had been redone inside recently. Since you will spend all your time in shark mongering (At least for me is like that). All you need is quite, clean and comfortable bed. The bed in this hotel is very close to Westin'S. Then you can take taxi to shark for about 10 e or like me -Walk to Shark during under the sun (if weather is good). It only take me 35 min door to door.
Use google maps. You can get to Darmsdadt from Fra by riding their Bus Airliner. It cost under 9 e and runs every HR or every half HR on the day. You can check its schedule from Fra website or visit RMV English version. It is their local public transportation system.
Of course, you can take taxi. I met a taxi guy at shark 3 days ago. He told me that if pre book from Fra to Darmsdadt, it is only E38.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1953308]More and more girls migrated from other FKK clubs, competition and tensions among girls are higher.
At Tuesday's visit of Shark, I gave a two-hour-session to Romanian girl. She appreciated I saved her day. In last half chat session, she complained that business was so slow and there was too much stress to get a customer. Then she said however Romanian girl could not work like these Hungarian sisters to please customers for big money. I knew she was talking about Dina and Nicoletta. Even if I am not Dina's regular, I still tried to defend Dina. The Romanian girl said, every Romanian girl knew the Hungarian sisters did dirty works to please customer for money, so there are a lot of American, Asian, and Arabian come to club asked for Dina and her sister.
Then I said I hadn't seen Dina in club for a while and She might be away for vacation. The Romanian girl said thanks God if those two sisters would never come back anymore. LOL.
Later afternoon, I went to room with an ex-Globe German girl L, she is very popular. She dislikes some Romanian girls, however she also abhorred the small Hungarian group. She said Dina is very arrogant, just because she has ways to get big money from customers, she (Dina) acts as if she herself were the princess of whole club. So what, no German girl would like to talk to her.
I was shocked to hear this German girl said so. It seems that more and more girls would become moody and stressful. The good services would be harder to get. So I decided to temporally stop visiting Shark for a while. Might resume visiting mid-November.[/QUOTE]99% chance of that 'dirty work' story just lies and jealousy. My experience with the Hungarians is that they are energetic. Nothing 'dirty'. Makes me sad to hear these things at Sharks. Goes on top of another story at Sharks too. Heard the same at Oase with 2 girls there, and at Artemis I've been hooked up in some of the same stuff. Can even feel there are some heat building at Oceans, but I hope that ends before it takes of like at these other clubs. These conflicts just makes guys afraid of the girls, and in the end none of the two girls are the winners.
At Artemis the Romanian group claimed another Romanian did too much in the room. So they froze her out even if she hadn't done what they 'knew' she had done. The girl got so scared of even going to the room fearing that would only make the freeze out worse for her just lies and jealousy and assumptions, the mother of all fuckups.
You can stay at any nice classy hotel you want and get to Sharks, especially if you rent a car. Or if you pay up for taxi. Don't see what's the problem. Do a google or Priceline or Expedia search and you will plenty of classy hotels that you would like.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1953400]99% chance of that 'dirty work' story just lies and jealousy. My experience with the hungarians is that they are energetic. Nothing 'dirty'. Makes me sad to hear these things at Sharks. Goes on top of another story at Sharks too. Heard the same at Oase with 2 girls there, and at Artemis I've been hooked up in some of the same stuff... Can even feel there are some heat building at Oceans, but I hope that ends before it takes of like at these other clubs. These conflicts just makes guys afraid of the girls, and in the end none of the two girls are the winners.
At Artemis the romanian group claimed another romanian did too much in the room. So they froze her out even if she hadnt done what they 'knew' she had done. The girl got so scared of even going to the room fearing that would only make the freeze out worse for her... just lies and jealousy... and assumptions, the mother of all fuckups...[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree it is jealousy. However, I think Dina's personal characters and behaviors should be partially responsible for these jealousy. I went to room with Dina more than 30 hours from last year to this July, but not anymore since then. I heard things about Dina from some my regular Romania girls, I am sure some of them are true according to my experience.
First all, a lot of Romanian girls thought Dina despised them, and on the other hand Dina never concealed such strong feeling before her customers. And some customers "accidentally" told this to their Romania girls. So hatred arose among them. Once, I was warned by at least two my regular Romanian girls that if I kept giving the "Hungarian" too many hours, they would refuse to provide good service to me or even "boycott" me! No kidding, those girls knew how to "punish" customer.
Second, Dina thought she has superior beauty and provides unmatched GFE service, she deserved much more than 100 euro per hour, at this point I used to agree. Dina always gave hints in a clever way to her customers about extra money. I usually tipped her in reasonable level, not in crazy level. But some customers tipped her a lot, more than 100% 200%. And such customers always boasted their richness and shared information with some Romanians girls. These made things worse. One time, one of my fav asked me if I would tip her in Dina' level? I told her I didn't tip Dina a lot, I only just gave her long-hour-session. The girl said you are such liar, every Dina's regular tip her large money.
Since July, I never ask Dina to room. Now I only go with Romanian girls or German girls. Now I feel relaxed and girls are very nice to me. It is very funny. I really wish all girls could get along well and peacefully. I worry about the Hungarians sisters would be boycotted by other girls. I still like then even if I would not go with them anymore.
[QUOTE=JBoarman;1953365]I am planning a stopover in Frankfurt from Thu, Jan 26 morning. Sat, Jan 28th morning. In my two day stopover, I intend to do a city tour on Friday morning and spend rest of my time in FKKs. From all the reading I did on this forum, I have determined that Sharks seems like a best FKK in Frankfurt because of its multiple entry option, its facility, food and variety of girls. I had thought about going to Oase and FKK world, but I don't have that much time to explore and get disappointed. My only problem with Sharks is its location and hotels close to that location. I am from California and I feel comfortable staying in the Marriott, Hilton and even the best westerns. I do not feel comfortable staying in smaller dated European style hotels (sorry, mean no dis-respect). So I am torn on where I should stay during those two days. On Thu, I plan to make at least 2-3 trips to sharks, on Friday, I am planning a city tour during day time and then head to sharks later in the afternoon, may be once or twice. Plan to rest in my hotel during breaks. Should I get a hotel in Darmstadt, near Frankfurt Airport (hotels are cheaper close to airport) or City center near central station / Frankfurt financial district. I realize that Sharks is near Darmstadt Nord and a train ride from Darmstadt Nord to city center central station is 30 minutes. Advice guys? Would really appreciate it.
Thanks,
JB.[/QUOTE]In my opinion Shark is not the best club for me, why first I don t drink alcohol so I always visit the clubs in day time and as early as possible so the girls are fresh and no drunken guys around second I like to see the girls skin before to go to the room which is impossible inside Shark the club is so dark so if I have only one choice it will be World for sure but every body can have his own opinion.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1953308]She said Dina is very arrogant[/QUOTE]Haha very true, she once told me she is the number one prostitute in all of Germany and all other girls are jealous. LOL. What a weird thing to brag about.
I of course agreed along, from what I've experienced it good to be on Dina's good side especially if you like her little group. She makes sure her girls will work hard for her good customers.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1953360]Talked to one of my repeats today at Sharks and I mentioned that I had a trip planned for next year and that I'd look for her. She said "if I'm still at Sharks" then went on about all of these rules in Germany and that she would be trying to move out of the country and work elsewhere.
And at ortos, couldn't find your latest reviews naming girls in the clubs, feel free to link them in the reports of distinction thread if you can find any.[/QUOTE]Well that's funny: in the same post that you accuse others of not "naming girls in clubs" you yourself refer to "one of my repeats" and do not "name girls in the clubs. " LOL.
And I am trying to figure out why you would, out of the blue, suddenly attack me? Is it because I yesterday posted direct compliments to Bitumen and his very excellent girl reports, but I did not mention any of yours? Did you attack because you are jealous? :)
You will not find any of my "latest reviews" because I have not visited any club lately. It's difficult to make recent reviews of club visits, when you do not have any recent visits to report on, correct?
I last visited 4 months ago, and I did post a long report in which, as always, I "name girls in the club" I reported on. As to linking them to RofD: I would NEVER link my own post to that hallowed hall of reports. For me, it's enough to simply post in the club thread what I feel is relevant, and let the chips fall where they may.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1953308]The Romanian girl said, every Romanian girl knew the Hungarian sisters did dirty works to please customer for money, so there are a lot of American, Asian, and Arabian come to club
asked for Dina and her sister. The Romanian girl said thanks God if those two sisters would never come back anymore.
Later afternoon, I went to room with an ex-Globe German girl L, she is very popular. She dislikes some Romanian girls, however she also abhorred the small Hungarian group. She said
Dina is very arrogant, just because she has ways to get big money from customers, she (Dina) acts as if she herself were the princess of whole club. So what, no German girl would like
to talk to her. I was shocked to hear this German girl said so. [/QUOTE]I can feel a strong breeze of jealousy!
A girls thoughts on moving is private, I'm not privi of her life outside the club and if there might be someone who wants to control her movements. So her name will be withheld. I'm sure you understand ortos, not all information should be shared on a public board.
As to naming all the names of all the girls, I find that information useless to me since I don't hunt down girls based on reports. Club lineup quality is a high criteria for me so I've chosen to report that information. What people report and how they report it is up to the poster, I'll throw in names if I remember them but honestly that isn't all that important to me. Main reason for my comments towards you was that your praise of a guy naming names was a direct attack on those of us who don't.
That being said the shark lineup Sunday daytime was average at best but picked up quickly by 3 pm.
[QUOTE=JBoarman;1953365]I am planning a stopover in Frankfurt from Thu, Jan 26 morning. Sat, Jan 28th morning. In my two day stopover, I intend to do a city tour on Friday morning and spend rest of my time in FKKs. From all the reading I did on this forum, I have determined that Sharks seems like a best FKK in Frankfurt because of its multiple entry option, its facility, food and variety of girls. I had thought about going to Oase and FKK world, but I don't have that much time to explore and get disappointed. My only problem with Sharks is its location and hotels close to that location. I am from California and I feel comfortable staying in the Marriott, Hilton and even the best westerns. I do not feel comfortable staying in smaller dated European style hotels (sorry, mean no dis-respect). So I am torn on where I should stay during those two days. On Thu, I plan to make at least 2-3 trips to sharks, on Friday, I am planning a city tour during day time and then head to sharks later in the afternoon, may be once or twice. Plan to rest in my hotel during breaks. Should I get a hotel in Darmstadt, near Frankfurt Airport (hotels are cheaper close to airport) or City center near central station / Frankfurt financial district. I realize that Sharks is near Darmstadt Nord and a train ride from Darmstadt Nord to city center central station is 30 minutes. Advice guys? Would really appreciate it.
Thanks,
JB.[/QUOTE]Hi. You might want to decide which is more important. The city tour or the time in the FKK. Frankfurt is a large city in Germany but IMHO is one of the most boring cities to visit. Berlin is much more interesting, as are Stuttgart, Dusseldorf and in my opinion Dresden. Dusseldorf has good options on FKKs. Four or five clubs are within easy distance. In Frankfurt Sharks is probably the club that will give you the greatest chance of having a good time as the number of girls is high. But it really depends a lot on luck. My last 4 or 5 visits to Sharks in the last 12 months have been largely disappointing. I've previously not liked Palace or Mainhattan but my last trips to both clubs were very good and they are much closer to central Frankfurt. World is a real trek if you are using public transport. Oase has its highs and lows but most would say its currently not the top club in the area. Easy enough via S bahn then cab (get off at Bad Homburg. A little further away but always cabs outside). Darmstadt is ok. I've stayed several times in the Maritim. Still needs a cab ride but it is next door to the train station and its a decent standard. Not much less than Hilton / Marriott. I've not stayed at the Contel close to Sharks but others on here have reported it is ok for a night. Given your criteria I'd be tempted to stay at the Hilton in Frankfurt or Roomers. Very nice contemporary hotel near to the train station.
But if I were you, given that the sights outside of the FKK appear to be important too, I'd head to Berlin. Artemis is the only FKK but I've never had a bad night there. Big club, more diversity of girls origins than most others. People talk of older girls and lots of sillies and tattoos. Yes you'll see all that but I have never struggled to find some really pretty young girls too. Report back on your travels!
[QUOTE=Breadman;1953518]That being said the shark lineup Sunday daytime was average at best but picked up quickly by 3 pm.[/QUOTE]Sunday casting around noon has always been limited, even on sunny Summer. When they work: Dina, Sylvana, Agnes. Pol, Sandra. De, Puerto Rican Kelli before, Megan now. Club closes at 5 am, some girls work quite late, so they have to sleep a bit to recover. Mia, Alice Marilyn, Madalina, arrived quite early, most of girls arrived at 4/5 pm. I often found good casting on late afternoon, before.
Seems to have a competition for asian easy market. For my experience, girls level depends on their kind of clients business, some girls changing to easier business, lose freshness and skill.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1941356]183 cm, blue eyes. A friend did her on Saturday and was quite enthusiastic.
HB.[/QUOTE]Is Heidi, the tall beauty there on weekends or weekday?
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1953308]More and more girls migrated from other FKK clubs, competition and tensions among girls are higher.
At Tuesday's visit of Shark, I gave a two-hour-session to Romanian girl. She appreciated I saved her day. In last half chat session, she complained that business was so slow and there was too much stress to get a customer. Then she said however Romanian girl could not work like these Hungarian sisters to please customers for big money. I knew she was talking about Dina and Nicoletta. Even if I am not Dina's regular, I still tried to defend Dina. The Romanian girl said, every Romanian girl knew the Hungarian sisters did dirty works to please customer for money, so there are a lot of American, Asian, and Arabian come to club asked for Dina and her sister.
Then I said I hadn't seen Dina in club for a while and She might be away for vacation. The Romanian girl said thanks God if those two sisters would never come back anymore. LOL.
Later afternoon, I went to room with an ex-Globe German girl L, she is very popular. She dislikes some Romanian girls, however she also abhorred the small Hungarian group. She said Dina is very arrogant, just because she has ways to get big money from customers, she (Dina) acts as if she herself were the princess of whole club. So what, no German girl would like to talk to her.
I was shocked to hear this German girl said so. It seems that more and more girls would become moody and stressful. The good services would be harder to get. So I decided to temporally stop visiting Shark for a while. Might resume visiting mid-November.[/QUOTE]I think it is unfair that you mention only the names of Dina and Nicoletta in your history then you hide Roman and German names who accuse them. You have free smeared Dina and Nicoletta protecting two accusers. That's what your two accusers would do. In short, you have fallen into their trap.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1953522]Hi. You might want to decide which is more important. The city tour or the time in the FKK. Frankfurt is a large city in Germany but IMHO is one of the most boring cities to visit. Berlin is much more interesting, as are Stuttgart, Dusseldorf and in my opinion Dresden. Dusseldorf has good options on FKKs. Four or five clubs are within easy distance. In Frankfurt Sharks is probably the club that will give you the greatest chance of having a good time as the number of girls is high. But it really depends a lot on luck. My last 4 or 5 visits to Sharks in the last 12 months have been largely disappointing. I've previously not liked Palace or Mainhattan but my last trips to both clubs were very good and they are much closer to central Frankfurt. World is a real trek if you are using public transport. Oase has its highs and lows but most would say its currently not the top club in the area. Easy enough via S bahn then cab (get off at Bad Homburg. A little further away but always cabs outside). Darmstadt is ok. I've stayed several times in the Maritim. Still needs a cab ride but it is next door to the train station and its a decent standard. Not much less than Hilton / Marriott. I've not stayed at the Contel close to Sharks but others on here have reported it is ok for a night. Given your criteria I'd be tempted to stay at the Hilton in Frankfurt or Roomers. Very nice contemporary hotel near to the train station.
But if I were you, given that the sights outside of the FKK appear to be important too, I'd head to Berlin. Artemis is the only FKK but I've never had a bad night there. Big club, more diversity of girls origins than most others. People talk of older girls and lots of sillies and tattoos. Yes you'll see all that but I have never struggled to find some really pretty young girls too. Report back on your travels![/QUOTE]Sorry but can t agree with you my daughters are living in Berlin therefor visited Artemis many times it is really a so so club and very expensive, never I will compare it to Oase or World may be a little bit like Shark. The average age of the girl is also higher that in other clubs.
Just spent Sat + Sun at Sharks for the first time and thoroughly enjoyed it, though my fav club remains Sakura. I talked to quite a few girls and sessioned with a few I knew from this board and a few that I took a flyer on. Just wanted to give back some for all the great advice from this board.
Saturday.
Hungarian Girl (HG). Can't remember her name!! Medium dirty blond hair in pony tail. Natural be+ cup. Good english. Super friendly and laid back. Very GFE. 1 HR session. Top notch oral with CIM.
Tiny RO (TYR). Also can't remember her name but she was not worth remembering. Dark hair in 2 small pony tails, glasses, 5 ft4 in, A cup. Very friendly and not pushy. She wasn't my first choice but at that time the there were few attractive girls so I took a flyer on her. In the room she was silent and unresponsive. Willing to accommodate but just didn't seem like she wanted to be there. Wasted 1 HR session. Should have ended it at 30 min but tried to salvage it.
Sunday.
Sedonia (RO). Tiny 5 ft blond about 20 yo. Normally not my "type" but after seeing her mentioned on this board I decided to at least chat her up. After she passed my "chat test" we sessioned for 1 HR. Great GFE + PSE. She was a real dynamo. You would expect someone of her delicate size to be cautious and defensive about an average sized guy being painful or crushing her. You would be wrong with her! Would repeat.
Megan (RO). Very tall (6 ft without heels), long dark hair, B+ cup, blue eyes. Very pretty! Normally I don't go for such tall girls, especially after sessioning with a tiny girl like Sedonia, but after several reports on this board I became interested. Took a while to find her because she was often busy, so I didn't get to chat with her until late Sunday. We clicked right away and it was total GFE from there on. We were both tired, especially me so the funny thing is we didn't go non-stop sex but it was absolutely the best session of the whole weekend for me. Would repeat often, but sadly I don't get to FRA much.
It was quite funny having sessions with the super small Sedonia and then later with Megan. I guess between the 2 of them they average out to normal height. Would be a blast to do a threesome with them both just for the contrast! .
Thanks to Bitumen, others on this board, and some great mongers I met at Sharks! I appreciate the help steering me in the right directions!
[QUOTE=Breadman;1953518] Main reason for my comments towards you was that your praise of a guy naming names was a direct attack on those of us who don't.
[/QUOTE]Eh? Where does that bit of warped logic come from? So let me get this straight: If I praise Bitumen for his well-written posts with details about girls, that is a direct attack on all other guys who, for whatever reasons, may not write well or forget to include names? And if I praise the posts of, say, Syzigies for his great lists, that is a direct attack on all other posters who do not provide lists? If I praise Alexis Pinturault for winning the GS race yesterday, that is a direct attack on Ted Ligety or Marcel the great One Hirscher who didn't win? Insane logic in my view.
[QUOTE=Ortos;1953058]First off: Thanks so much for taking the time to post these very well-written and detailed girl reports. Such a joy to see this kind of reporting coming back to these threads. [/QUOTE]
And BTW: where do you see anything about naming names in my praise of Bitumen? It had nothing to do with him naming names or not naming them, but rather with how well he writes and constructs his reports. That is it.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1953603]Sorry but can t agree with you my daughters are living in Berlin therefor visited Artemis many times it is really a so so club and very expensive, never I will compare it to Oase or World may be a little bit like Shark. The average age of the girl is also higher that in other clubs.[/QUOTE]Thanks PayForIt and ExpatLover.
My ITIN will not allow me a layover in any other German city but Frankfurt. What I am thinking of doing is. Stay at a Hotel close to Sharks on the first day (Thu), spend most of my day there and try at least 2-3 girls at the club. Checkout the following morning (Fri) and check-in to a Hotel close to City Centre / Mainhattan, take a city tour later and spend rest of the afternoon / eve in Mainhattan (between Palace and Mainhattan, Mainhattan have got better reviews. Not aware of a better FKKK in that area). I have an early morning flight to catch on Sat morning, around 8:15 am from Frankfurt. I believe getting to the airport from city center would be more practical than Darmstadt. I do not see myself leaving 5:30 in the morning from Darmstadt for Airport. Do you guys agree?
Thanks again.
[QUOTE=NotSavvy;1953599]I think it is unfair that you mention only the names of Dina and Nicoletta in your history then you hide Roman and German names who accuse them. You have free smeared Dina and Nicoletta protecting two accusers. That's what your two accusers would do. In short, you have fallen into their trap.[/QUOTE]Heard about short black hair with glasses, Elli / Eliz. Hu, but never heard about Dina way for business, since beginning of 2014 I visit Sharks. Also nothing about Nicoletta or Mersi since they arrived. Only 1 french faker claiming to be Swiss wrote bullshit about Dina, as he bullshit some girls who are too naive and became too talkative. I met German, Polish, Latvian, Romanian, Bulgarian girls, even top GFE Jana. Hu who was not with Dina, no girl never told me anything about Dina business, but I have better to do in room than speaking about her or little guys. The faker wrote about her business, just because he looks for 50 AO rooms, when claims to be Swiss like some Romanian girls claim to be from the moon. Not only prostitutes lie in brothels. Also jealousy from little, not self confident enough guys.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1953473]Haha very true, she once told me she is the number one prostitute in all of Germany and all other girls are jealous. LOL. What a weird thing to brag about.[/QUOTE]See, she always says so. One time, in a room, we had happy start at beginning. Then she said she is the best among all FKK clubs. I tried to persuade her to conceal this narcissism for it would arouse hostility from other girls. I was wrong, she became little grumpy. She said she was too good for me. I replied that honey we would spend three hours together today. I tried to salvage. However she said yes you pay me 300 E for three hours while some of my regulars would pay me 300 E for just one hour. This sentence seems to push me into the ice house. I could not help saying words in sarcastic tone: why not working in Zurich club Globe? You would easily make more than 300 SF an hour since you surly should be the top best girl there. Then she said something I would never forgot: Go to the Romanian girls and I don't need your money. Done. End of story. LOL.
I didn't see her appearance in club during my recent visits. Her sister was there. I wish everything is OK to her.
Was in Sharks Fri and Sat. Met some nice girls but missed Helli and Rihanna. Any information on them? Are they likely to come back?
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1953308]Then she said however Romanian girl could not work like these Hungarian sisters to please customers for big money. I knew she was talking about Dina and Nicoletta. Even if I am not Dina's regular, I still tried to defend Dina. The Romanian girl said, every Romanian girl knew the Hungarian sisters did dirty works to please customer for money,
however she also abhorred the small Hungarian group. She said Dina is very arrogant, just because she has ways to get big money from customers, she (Dina) acts as if she herself were the princess of whole club. [/QUOTE]Dina is making good money. Others are not. Instead of improving their service and behavior they start to spread rumors. Usually those rumors include working below the standard price, offering services not allowed in the club, having a relationship with the management etc. Usual bullshit.
HB.
[QUOTE=NotSavvy;1953599]I think it is unfair that you mention only the names of Dina and Nicoletta in your history then you hide Roman and German names who accuse them. You have free smeared Dina and Nicoletta protecting two accusers. That's what your two accusers would do. In short, you have fallen into their trap.[/QUOTE]Well said, JohnEllee's posts stinks and reeks of lies put forth by girls who wants to hide behind some silly guy's back. Unless JohnEllee actually is a woman working at Sharks instead.
This is the 2nd time in just a week that lies are put up of other girls Sharks. The first was the new guy (or girl) with 1 post who lied about Ariana.
And I say this not because these girls are my favorites by a long shot (only perhaps Merci in the Hun group is like a top 5 or top 10 for me). But because I am sick of this kind of drama based on assumptions and lies.
Because of JohnEllee's post I'm gonna see if I can fuck 2 Hungarian girls just out of spite next time I go to Sharks (god I do hope Merci is around then, or its gonna be a test in several ways, lol)
[QUOTE=Breadman;1953518]That being said the shark lineup Sunday daytime was average at best but picked up quickly by 3 pm.[/QUOTE]I'm assuming Sharks is pretty quiet every day before 3 pm. How was the Sunday lineup after 7 pm?
[QUOTE=JBoarman;1953365]I am planning a stopover in Frankfurt from Thu, Jan 26 morning. Sat, Jan 28th morning. In my two day stopover, I intend to do a city tour on Friday morning and spend rest of my time in FKKs. From all the reading I did on this forum, I have determined that Sharks seems like a best FKK in Frankfurt because of its multiple entry option, its facility, food and variety of girls. I had thought about going to Oase and FKK world, but I don't have that much time to explore and get disappointed. My only problem with Sharks is its location and hotels close to that location. I am from California and I feel comfortable staying in the Marriott, Hilton and even the best westerns. I do not feel comfortable staying in smaller dated European style hotels (sorry, mean no dis-respect). So I am torn on where I should stay during those two days. On Thu, I plan to make at least 2-3 trips to sharks, on Friday, I am planning a city tour during day time and then head to sharks later in the afternoon, may be once or twice. Plan to rest in my hotel during breaks. Should I get a hotel in Darmstadt, near Frankfurt Airport (hotels are cheaper close to airport) or City center near central station / Frankfurt financial district. I realize that Sharks is near Darmstadt Nord and a train ride from Darmstadt Nord to city center central station is 30 minutes. Advice guys? Would really appreciate it.
Thanks,
JB.[/QUOTE]I don't post much, but get to stopover once or twice a year.
If you really want US based hotels, I recommend staying in the city and taking the train to Darmstadt, taxi to Sharks, and a taxi back. If you leave late or early, take the train back (starts back up around 5 I think) You can stay anywhere you like from an upper end like Westin, Marriott, Hilton. There even is a new Hampton Inn, and a Raddison Blue. You are from California, so I get that subways aren't huge there depending on your city, but trust me, the you and S Bahn are pretty easy to navigate. The hardest part is figuring out how to get a ticket, but that even is pretty easy once you change the screen to English.
Head over, have fun, and don't worry about the it's basically one less half hour. If your trekking to Europe, you're getting a bargain anyway so just pick a hotel anywhere in Frankfurt and pay the extra 50-100 Euros in transit fees (less if you stick with trains).
Noticed one mistake in PayForIts post. If you do decide on Oase and take the s bahn. Leave at Friedrichdorf. Not Bad Homburg.
Personally I am sold to the idea of renting a car now while in Germany on FKK's. It is well worth it, and if you rent a nice car you can even sleep in it a few hours too saving hotel costs for a night or two as well so it can get just as cheap as going public transport. Or even cheaper. Plus you get much more mobile and that opens up NRW, RP and BW as well just 2 hours away from Frankfurt if you avoid rush hour, plus you get to see the countryside as well and you can drop by some old castles for some sightseeing showing your friends at home what an A4 standard tourist you are.
I have read many reports and was overwhelmed with deciding which club to visit as this trip was my first experience at an FKK. I have read many reports and was overwhelmed with deciding which club to visit as this trip was my first experience at an FKK. I also would like to thank all that have posted beforehand.
Day 2 Sharks.
After an amazing first day at Manhattan I decided to go to Sharks on Wednesday because I have read that it is the day to go. For those who are first timers at Sharks or new to the FKK I would recommend not to go Wednesday's due to how packed the place was unless you need to save money. I was overwhelmed with the number of guys inside the club, locker room and outside at the pool. I would say when I arrived maybe around 1 PM there were more guys than girls and it was the same by the time I left. The club itself was big, plenty of showers / lockers. The girls were unbelievable here and as one man on the forum said try not to fall for one of the girls. I am not sure if was me or what but the level of service at Manhattan seemed to be hire the day before or it could have been I just went too crazy this day after such an epic day prior. The blonde older MILF was very persistent in hanging out but I didn't cave, she said she gave the world's best BJ which I am still trying to discover. One girl I tried to catch but she didn't acknowledge me was a girl that looked like Hayden Panettiere she was hanging out with a taller Hungarian with red hair and large fake breasts. If anyone has any information on her, please PM as I'the love to hear your experience so next visit I can enjoy.
Shot 1.
First was this gorgeous blonde, with huge tits and just an amazing body. She was a 10 on looks and hung around the pole near the bar most of the time. We went back and she gave a good BJ for a little while the rode me and the sight of her on top was priceless. I wanted to visit her again but too many choices for 2 rounds. 100 E (50 for her, 20 to kiss and 30 tip). Next time I'll have her give me an amazing Spanish lesson (titty fuck) as the ones I've had were so-so. If anyone has a recommend of girls to visit for this act please PM me.
Shot 2.
Next was a very pretty blonde with red lipstick and with a towel around her waist. She was very sweet and although maybe not as GFE as other girls I did enjoy my time. I came on her face. 100 E.
Shot 3.
Sadly, I don't remember this girl. But I did have one. 50 E.
Shot 4.
I had a duo with 2 hot blondes with larger breasts that sat near the 3 tables on the other side of the bar near the dining room. At this point I didn't know if I was losing steam or maybe we just didn't connect but it was one of my worse performance / session of the trip. 100 E. No GFE.
Shot 5.
This girl was by far the one I liked the most. She was a bit more aggressive than the other girls but I didn't think she connected with me. The session was very difficult on my end but I'the repeat again. She was dark hair, amazing natural breasts which I cam on. 100 E.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1953827] Unless JohnEllee actually is a woman working at Sharks instead..[/QUOTE]A regular customer of Sharks (EG over 30 h with Dina since last year) may not know about "six-entry-ticket 'and' Luggage issue" of his favorite club? His / her goal is not clear as he / she accuses the girls of two camps Dina (Hungarian) and Cosmina (Romanian). Maybe is he / she a German?
[QUOTE=JBoarman;1953365]I am planning a stopover in Frankfurt from Thu, Jan 26 morning. Sat, Jan 28th morning. In my two day stopover
My only problem with Sharks is its location and hotels close to that location. I am from California and I feel comfortable staying in the Marriott, Hilton and even the best westerns. I do not feel comfortable staying in smaller dated European style hotels (sorry, mean no dis-respect).[/QUOTE]In California, what I enjoyed the most was to walk in death Valley under the sun and under sea level.
Each week end, when I cross the border to poor Germany, I feel I arrive in Africa, I rent a trabant in Chemnitz and I try to be faster than Man trucks on autobahns.
In clubs, when I see poor Romanian or Bulgarian girls, I just dream. With Pistons, when Winter will be cold, we will sleep in our igloo trabant, cold make you stay more firm and live older. Where are american warriors like John Rambo, able to drink own [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] or to eat rats to survive?
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1953770]See, she always says so. One time, in a room, we had happy start at beginning. Then she said she is the best among all FKK clubs. I tried to persuade her to conceal this narcissism for it would arouse hostility from other girls. I was wrong, she became little grumpy. She said she was too good for me. I replied that honey we would spend three hours together today. I tried to salvage. However she said yes you pay me 300 E for three hours while some of my regulars would pay me 300 E for just one hour. This sentence seems to push me into the ice house. I could not help saying words in sarcastic tone: why not working in Zurich club Globe? You would easily make more than 300 SF an hour since you surly should be the top best girl there. Then she said something I would never forgot: Go to the Romanian girls and I don't need your money. Done. End of story. LOL.
I didn't see her appearance in club during my recent visits. Her sister was there. I wish everything is OK to her.[/QUOTE]Never heard anything bad about Dina way of business, when I heard about some of my regular girls, pretty face when her eyes are not too "tired", but from my experience with her on February 2014, I met many much higher GFE level at Sharks, like Sandra, Aylice. Bu, Ariana when she arrived, Roberta, Leila, Marina. Lat, Agnes. Pol, Ilka, Jana. Hu, Alice / Kate far above, or prettier like Karin or Megan. Not sure she would get the GFE level for Globe, only the best and prettiest Hessen girls could make good money ay Globe. Kate is busy there.
Everybody can believe what he wants, even bullshits from fakers.
DukesFord amore. Good report, though for the benefit of my penis; do you remember any names? Ciao.
100 E (50 for her, 20 to kiss and 30 tip).
Please don t tip. You are just spoiling the scene for those of us who live in Germany.
The proper way to tip is to book another session. Other regulars, I believe, back me up on this.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1953770]I didn't see her appearance in club during my recent visits. Her sister was there. I wish everything is OK to her.[/QUOTE]She is fine, she got some shit to do back at home.
Dina is quite confrontational and I believe that to be fair criticism. She talks a lot of shit compare to the other prostitutes, but I think that makes her more honest. As far as I can tell she doesn't lie about the other girls, but just like to shit talk them as being lesser compared to her. I am surprised that you said some German girl didn't like her, Dina told me she get along with the German girls just fine.
Also there is no way Dina offers AO, she is extremely hygienic. She knows how to take care of herself and is pretty smart about the business. If she did offer AO, none of us will probably ever see her sitting at the bar. I know I'll book her till my balls are empty for sure.
[QUOTE=NotSavvy;1953993]A regular customer of Sharks (EG over 30 h with Dina since last year) may not know about "six-entry-ticket 'and' Luggage issue" of his favorite club? His / her goal is not clear as he / she accuses the girls of two camps Dina (Hungarian) and Cosmina (Romanian). Maybe is he / she a German?[/QUOTE]Yes I just read his posts now. Erratic english with some spelling errors and logical mishaps a few places. Could be a girl indeed.
Siri: I always leave the engine on. Been working on that global warming for years as I hate the cold. But it doesn't seem to work.
[QUOTE=Oregon97;1953794]Was in Sharks Fri and Sat. Met some nice girls but missed Helli and Rihanna. Any information on them? Are they likely to come back?[/QUOTE]Helli was actually there on Friday. She was so busy that I only saw her twice on the floor. I didn't see her on Sat and Sun either.
[QUOTE=MrStyles;1954107]100 E (50 for her, 20 to kiss and 30 tip).
Please don t tip. You are just spoiling the scene for those of us who live in Germany.
The proper way to tip is to book another session. Other regulars, I believe, back me up on this.[/QUOTE]Agree, I never pay more than rate, 40 at Aca, 140 CHF at Globe, never pay for extra, nor tip. My best tip is to be faithful and my respectful behavior. Some girls seem to agree.
Just some notes for someone with a rental car:
- Do not park at the Hornbach store parking lot next door! I made a mistake and parked there. They have a gate that they lock it at night. The lot was full on Sat so I parked there instead. Good thing I found a little gap that I could drive over the dirt to get out. Otherwise my car would have been stuck there from Sat night / Sun morning til they open again on Monday.
- There is a speeding camera here at this intersection: [URL]https://www.google.com/maps/@49.8909914,8.6277377,19z[/URL].
Just make sure to go at 50 or 70 Kmh (or whatever the speed limit is).
[QUOTE=Pistons;1954127]Siri: I allways leave the engine on. Been working on that global warming for years as I hate the cold. But it doesnt seem to work :([/QUOTE]My so beloved little frog is too small to sleep in, or for my ski soon, after Sφlden. At lesson I m ready, or my best friend bike, so I will get a trabant, no heating, good for cold winter nights for real warrior, Hilton are too comfortable, I only liked Hilton Milano to meet Your dreamed girls Russian escorts, that was good old time, this agency closed, but I remember Anna.
[QUOTE=MrStyles;1954107]100 E (50 for her, 20 to kiss and 30 tip).
Please don t tip. You are just spoiling the scene for those of us who live in Germany.
The proper way to tip is to book another session. Other regulars, I believe, back me up on this.[/QUOTE]Sorry but I always tip when the service is what I was expecting, it is also a easy way for me to have in each of my favorites clubs girls who are a.
Always available for me even during very busy time. Why we are spoiling, you also have the right to tip if you are satisfy by the service. In Europe, in most of the countries tipping I is just part of the game like in the US but I will never tip in China where tipping is not in the DNA of the people.
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;1954176]- Do not park at the Hornbach store parking lot next door! I made a mistake and parked there. They have a gate that they lock it at night. The lot was full on Sat so I parked there instead. Good thing I found a little gap that I could drive over the dirt to get out. Otherwise my car would have been stuck there from Sat night / Sun morning til they open again on Monday.[/QUOTE]
I've been told once by one of those muscled security guys to park across the road. There is a, slightly hidden parking lot, which entrance is directly across from a snack bar called "Schmackes" and apparently there is an agreement that Sharks visitors can also park there, but you might want to check that with someone from Sharks.
I dunno if this link works: [url]https://www.google.com/maps/@49.8901267,8.6415959,42m/data=!3m1!1e3[/url]
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;1954176]- There is a speeding camera here at this intersection: [URL]https://www.google.com/maps/@49.8909914,8.6277377,19z[/URL].
Just make sure to go at 50 or 70 Kmh (or whatever the speed limit is).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, it must be quite new (or I haven't been to Sharks for ages) because I've never noticed something there.
Here is a complete map for Darmstadt: [URL]https://www.verkehrslage.de/Darmstadt/feste+Blitzer[/URL]
The speed trap has been there for months. It's also taking pictures if you're ignoring the red light.
HB.
Hi gentlemen,
Will have Friday & Saturday in Frankfurt. Sharks is a must and for the second day, am hesitating between Dietzenbach, Oase and Manhattan. Which day is best for Sharks? Second choice?
Could anyone confirm the Oase 20 e daily discount?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1952973]Some girl reports.
[B] Megan ro [/B]
Long straight black hair, tall slim build girl with a blatant red tattoo down her side of her torso. Pretty face. Breasts are modest so if you are after breasts then do look past Megan. She sits on the couches that sit back against the stairs landing for the stairs that go up to the first floor hall of rooms. Megan does deep french kiss in a 30 minutes session and it was nice. She has a very good memory so there has to be some recognition that one must be aware about when encountering Megan. She wipes your cock with a wet wipe which I do not like. I give more points to the girls that do not spoil the mood with using a wet wipe before sucking cock. I always shower before I take a girl to the room. The blowjob is good and Megan even attempts to deep throat by plunging her throat to the base or at least she tries and looks up to see your reaction. Licking her out did not garner a reaction and Megan says she rarely if ever comes to the point of not recalling if she has come from DATY from customers so what she is saying is not to be put off from that she does not look like she is enjoying herself from your DATY performance. Onto the fucking. She does allow multi positions and looks great in most of the positions chosen since Megan has good looks. In missionary, Megan does not always look you in the eyes going into a half faraway gaze like soldiers get when shell shocked.
I was sad about one little blonde girl. No it was not Mersi the Hungarian but another one.[/QUOTE]Fortunately her last tattoo is hidden under her left arm, not on belly like Nora. Ru, or above tits like Loredana. Ro for who know. When you say modest breasts, she will not need to complain about Newton and his fallen apple like Brandy / Leya who will get them on knees when she will be 30 . With her 80 A cup, they should stay firm when she will be older.
She was not so lazy if you repeat, maybe tired because busy.
Some members don't seem to understand english words, using translator, so they told her I wrote she is my GF, when I write for many girls, I always look for a GF behavior. Only Nobel awards can think we look for GF who go with many guys in a day in brothels. Also the claimed Swiss, AO sex specialist french faker, of course, girls should be careful about their health with such 50 room risky guy.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1954247]The speed trap has been there for months. It's also taking pictures if you're ignoring the red light.
HB.[/QUOTE]When arriving from autobahn, just before the bridge, entering in Darmstadt, 50 km / h.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1954048]Each week end, when I cross the border to poor Germany, I would like to rent a trabant in Chemnitz and I try to be faster than Man trucks on autobahns.
In clubs, when I see poor Romanian or Bulgarian girls, I just dream. Wen Winter will be cold, I will sleep in igloo trabant, cold make you stay more firm and live older. Where are american warriors like John Rambo, able to drink own fluids or to eat rats to survive?[/QUOTE]Not in Chemnitz, but in Zwickau for the famous trabant for best igloo without heating and autobahn rocket, and to remember Jurgen Croy, DDR goalkeeper who played for Saschering Zwickau. Also Pommerenke, Kurdjuweit and Sparwasser who defeated Beckenbauer and Gerd Muller in World Cup 1974. They were poor DDR but they were strong and skillful, Magdebourg was a great team at this time.
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;1954137]Helli was actually there on Friday. She was so busy that I only saw her twice on the floor. I didn't see her on Sat and Sun either.[/QUOTE]Helli was there on Sunday!
[QUOTE=NickTheG;1954278]Helli was there on Sunday![/QUOTE]Wow, really. Good for her. I didn't see her at all and I was there for a while.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1954245]I've been told once by one of those muscled security guys to park across the road. There is a, slightly hidden parking lot, which entrance is directly across from a snack bar called "Schmackes" and apparently there is an agreement that Sharks visitors can also park there, but you might want to check that with someone from Sharks.
I dunno if this link works: [url]https://www.google.com/maps/@49.8901267,8.6415959,42m/data=!3m1!1e3[/url]
Thanks for the info, it must be quite new (or I haven't been to Sharks for ages) because I've never noticed something there.
Here is a complete map for Darmstadt: [URL]https://www.verkehrslage.de/Darmstadt/feste+Blitzer[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for all the links!
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1954247]The speed trap has been there for months. It's also taking pictures if you're ignoring the red light.
HB.[/QUOTE]Yes, I tested their camera.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1953849]Noticed one mistake in PayForIts post. If you do decide on Oase and take the s bahn. Leave at Friedrichdorf. Not Bad Homburg.
[/QUOTE]More appropriate to Oase thread but for clarity. I agree Friedrichdorf is closer. But on 3 occasions I've got off there I could not see any taxis and had to wait for a long time. It's better to get off at Bad Homburg where there are always taxis.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1950905]...
However, I noticed a few Romanian girls are significantly underrated.
1) Steffi, Ro, 22 y/o. She sometimes sat around bar, closed to Dina' seat. Some months ago, when I approached to Dina and ask her favor, but Dina was unwilling to go, at that moment, I happened to notice a very beautiful girl sitting by next chair. It was Steffi. To be honest, I rate her beauty as 9, same level as Dina. She was very nice and compliant, like Sandra. Service is good too. Since then, we went to room many times. BTW, Steffi is very intelligent, she has genius in languages. She can speak German, English, Spanish very fluently, some French and Italian. Wonderful girl.
...[/QUOTE]I second Steffi. I find her very pretty. Siri pointed her to me and mentioned a while back that she doesn't kiss. So I have never taken her. But when I went to get the drinks I sensed a good vibe from her. She was excellent in the room. I agree with what you guys say here. She should be a superstar at Sharks! She was excellent in LFK and promised me a DFK in our future session. She gave me a sample and it was wonderful. Such a nice girl and provide excellent service (regarding kissing, YMMV due to her selective kissing).
It's so unfair that a girl like her, who doesn't approach customer, is getting less room than the "Egyption" ex-palace-ex-oase Angelina. I don't know if JohnEllee is real but I felt it's my duty to get Steffi some recognition.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1930899]But whole night with one girl would 1. Be too costly for one night (...... Where I normally spend 200-300 pluss entrance) and 2. Equal alot of downtime in between where I might as well rest and relax in the bar, sauna, pool, diner, or even take a short nap...[/QUOTE]In Shark club, Dina could easily make 2000 euros a day without problem. She has quite a few regular big spenders who tip her 100% or 200%. You only want to spend 200-300, not even enough to cover her expected one hour rate. Haha.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1953849]if you rent a nice car you can even sleep in it a few hours too saving hotel costs for a night or two as well...[/QUOTE]Look at yourself, isn't it too miserly to cut hotel cost to save the trivial money?
[QUOTE=Pistons;1953827]Bucause of JohnEllee's post I'm gonna see if I can fuck 2 hungarian girls just out of spite next time I go to Sharks... (god I do hope Merci is around then, or its gonna be a test in several ways, lol)[/QUOTE]Do you really think you would have money and energy to achieve your shit fantasy of threesome with the Hungarian sisters?
[QUOTE=Pistons;1954127]Yes I just read his posts now. Erratic english with some spelling errors and logical mishaps a few places. Could be a girl indeed...[/QUOTE]Look at your own broken English in your past posts. Ha.
I never saw a monger (like Pistons) in such naked shameless means attacked another customer. It is not nice.
I don't want to fight. It would affect my feeling to go to FKK clubs. FYI, we will be in Shark on November 12-13.
Had to have been well over 60 girls at one point last night and it seemed like the guys were giving the club a pass. Knowing what the girls looked like naked made it easy to pick and choose. Some barely wore a stitch of clothing. My girl adara from oase is now trying out the club, seems making 150 euros on a Saturday at oase wasn't enough to keep her around. Thought it was funny that girls were still coming in at 10 pm.
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;1954300]I second Steffi. I find her very pretty. Siri pointed her to me and mentioned a while back that she doesn't kiss. So I have never taken her. But when I went to get the drinks I sensed a good vibe from her. She was excellent in the room. I agree with what you guys say here. She should be a superstar at Sharks! She was excellent in LFK and promised me a DFK in our future session. She gave me a sample and it was wonderful. Such a nice girl and provide excellent service (regarding kissing, YMMV due to her selective kissing).
It's so unfair that a girl like her, who doesn't approach customer, is getting less room than the "Egyption" ex-palace-ex-oase Angelina. I don't know if JohnEllee is real but I felt it's my duty to get Steffi some recognition.[/QUOTE]I met Steffi a few months ago when she just arrived at Sharks, coming from Stuttgart I think. Because she was really pretty, friendly and smiling, I didn't ask her before going to room. In room she was still friendly and no problem for sex, but she said: no kissing and I should have asked her about, before room. She was right, it was my mistake, when I have no problem with most of girls at Sharks about kissing, without extra asked. No extra asked by Steffi, but I never force girls, so only 30 mn room with her, when, with her beauty, she should worth more than 30 mn to take my time to enjoy foreplay and sex with her. Sometimes with skillful kisser, we non stop kiss and foreplay for much more than 30 mn and I never stay only 30 mn with a real attractive GFE, and Steffi is really attractive for look for me. For the Japanese and french fakers, I translate once more, I don't need to find a GF who go with all guys in a brothel, I never even asked to meet outside the club. When she was sitting and really not busy when I visited Sharks, she was one of the prettiest in a Sharks casting which was getting low on this summer without Karin, Kate, Rena. I often wrote she should be a busy superstar at Sharks with her classy beauty, no silicon, I don t remember any tattoo, or small, a pretty face, a shy smile, just a real pleasure to look at her beauty. Maybe she will improve her GF services to get more business, really no problem about sex and also friendly.
Sharks and world, a tale of 2 contrasting FKK's.
Visited world last week on a weekday. Very boring no atmosphere and hardly any sex happening, only a dozen boy with 3 dozen girls sulking and cribbing. Tried 2 girls, good time but nothing like below.
On the other side I had the best ever experience in Sharks. Lots of girls and men, ratio was easily 2 to 1 and long que for rooms. Good music and great buzz.
2 best / must try girls in my list Catalina (Hung or Rom) wears glasses (don't know why), red hair and sits opposite the dancing pole & the bar. Immediately recognized me when she saw me and asked for room. At first did not recognize her but she reminded me what I like in the room and voila I didn't have to think again. This was my best decision of the day. Absolutely amazing GFE, amazing services, she was open to everything, we did not discuss money.
Only downside with her is she does not have big breasts. Otherwise she is on for everything including unhurried DFK, smells nice, I asked her to take a shower because I wanted a nice 69. She does not at all if her backside is played with. Ofcourse one needs to spend extra . I took her for 2 sessions on different days and she was worth every cent.
Body - 8/10.
Looks 8. 5/10.
Attitude - 9/10.
Another fab girl who stood out on the day was Sasha, never seen her before. Sits on the sofa with her friends near the staircase and in between the cinema and massage rooms. I talked to her for a few minutes and she immediately convinced me to buy her a drink and take her in the room. Dark & short hair, pierced upper lip (I think), romanian slim, again small breasts. This girl just does not stop giving BJ, one actually has to plead take her mouth out. I remember one session of 30 minutes was spent on just DFK and BJ. I had to buy another 30 for sex / CIM. A must for a guy looking for great attitude, amazing service and not a time watcher. Will do whatever you ask of her. The room que was really long and I was feeling very horny so we decided to make out in one of the rooms outside in the garden area. She was okay to that. She is a specialist in CIM and swallowed to my surprise. Absolutely unbelievable. I must mention here that she was not feeling good about one pf her friends who was not getting lucky for 2 days so asked me to try her out, turned out to be a disaster. Tried her best to make up for this bad decision. I repeated her again in the next hour of the same day. Even better the next time.
Ratings.
Looks 8. 5/10 (slutty).
Figure - 8. 5/10.
Experience - 10/10.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1954213]Sorry but I always tip when the service is what I was expecting, it is also a easy way for me to have in each of my favorites clubs girls who are a.
Always available for me even during very busy time. Why we are spoiling, you also have the right to tip if you are satisfy by the service. In Europe, in most of the countries tipping I is just part of the game like in the US but I will never tip in China where tipping is not in the DNA of the people.[/QUOTE]Not kissing, tipping, easy client for girls. I don't repeat when not kissing, I don't tip and if I can wait for hours for first time with a girl, after first room I never run after girls, if they don't come to me, they can go with others, but then, next one for me. So many girls waiting for business and sometimes you find real skillful women, or sweet angels, sometimes you are lucky to find both in one.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1954148]Agree, I never pay more than rate, 40 at Aca, 140 CHF at Globe, never pay for extra, nor tip. My best tip is to be faithful and my respectful behavior. Some girls seem to agree.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=ExpatLover;1954213]Sorry but I always tip when the service is what I was expecting, it is also a easy way for me to have in each of my favorites clubs girls who are a.[/QUOTE]I always think being decent European gentlemen, we should tip girls especially whom provide good service. I myself consider it as a way to show respect and appreciation. However, there should be some guidelines for tipping, otherwise it would have a bad effect on whole business.
These days, Asians, Americans or some international tourists usually tip girls too much, because the price here is too much lower compare to their home countries. They sometimes spoiled girls too much and might hoist girl expectations which could never be realized.
I did have some my own rules to tip girls:
1) half-hour-session: it is very rare to me, most likely means I don't like her and won't repeat anymore. I usually tip 10 E as farewell present.
2) one-hour-session: most common. Excellent service, tip 20 e, and give promise to repeat. Good or OK service, tip 10 e, might repeat. Bed service, no tip, no repeat.
3) multiple-hour-session (2-6 hours in a row depending on girls) : if a girl has chances with me in room more than 5 times, she would be in my favorite list. I would offer long session if she is available and has stunning look that day. In this scenario, I tip the girl Zero. Yes, no tipping in long session. Why? Thinking of I spending one hour fucking and three hours chatting, why should I tip her again?
Most of my favs enjoy multiple-hour-session with me, only exception is the Hungarian girl, whom thought she could make more.
4) day session. 1000-1500 E. No tip.
I might be wrong. But I always try to be nice to girls. I respect them, I enjoyed time with them. They told me their life stories, true or fake; I shared with them my life experience in Far East, America and Eastern Europe; we enjoyed our best time together. This is my life, with girls in heaven!
[QUOTE=SuperLove;1954501]Sharks and world, a tale of 2 contrasting FKK's.
Visited world last week on a weekday. Very boring no atmosphere and hardly any sex happening, only a dozen boy with 3 dozen girls sulking and cribbing. Tried 2 girls, good time but nothing like below.
On the other side I had the best ever experience in Sharks. Lots of girls and men, ratio was easily 2 to 1 and long que for rooms. Good music and great buzz.
2 best / must try girls in my list Catalina (Hung or Rom) wears glasses (don't know why), red hair and sits opposite the dancing pole & the bar. Immediately recognized me when she saw me and asked for room. At first did not recognize her but she reminded me what I like in the room and voila I didn't have to think again. This was my best decision of the day. Absolutely amazing GFE, amazing services, she was open to everything, we did not discuss money.
Only downside with her is she does not have big breasts. Otherwise she is on for everything including unhurried DFK, smells nice, I asked her to take a shower because I wanted a nice 69. She does not at all if her backside is played with. Ofcourse one needs to spend extra . I took her for 2 sessions on different days and she was worth every cent..[/QUOTE]I don't understand your comment I don t visit a FKK for the atmosphere, and I don t believe to be oblige to wait long time for a room is a positive atmosphere knowing that mostly the room will be full of. Many things from the previous session. When you say "any sex happening" how can you know what action is done in the rooms. For me World is the best club and I don't want to convince anyone to visit it, so it will be better for me. For me Shark is a dark place with some good girls but also a lot of mongers.
LOL at JohnEllee, I've never done a first time session with anyone paying more than minimum cost (pluss a small tip). Only at repeats I extend sometimes.
No reason to check in to a hotel to sleep for 3 hours. Convenience first. And money better spent on girls, lol. But depends on closing and opening time of the clubs and if I have to drive far. So you spend 500 a day. I spend perhaps 300. I visit clubs 30 days a year, you visit clubs 10 days? I say I win :p
I just get annoyed at you smearing dirt on several woman. Woman which are not my favourites at all, but you name and shame them, so I name and shame you...
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1954358]In Shark club, Dina could easily make 2000 euros a day without problem. She has quite a few regular big spenders who tip her 100% or 200%. You only want to spend 200-300, not even enough to cover her expected one hour rate. Haha.
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Do you really think you would have money and energy to achieve your shit fantasy of threesome with the Hungarian sisters?
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FYI, we will be in Shark on November 12-13.[/QUOTE]FYI Dina does not ask for tips, all pricing is normal including extras, and she doesn't select her clients based on tips, but she has the right to be selective on clients (and she is). Stop smearing her image. Her clients tip her because they chose to. She can be very nice at times and also very fierce at another (like most women). All I'm saying is her pricing is fair, but she can be a pain in the ass at times.
Also, threesome with the sisters is at normal price.
Also again, I'll be there on those dates too.
[QUOTE=GvaCH;1954248]Hi gentlemen,
Will have Friday & Saturday in Frankfurt. Sharks is a must and for the second day, am hesitating between Dietzenbach, Oase and Manhattan. Which day is best for Sharks? Second choice?
Could anyone confirm the Oase 20 e daily discount?
Thanks![/QUOTE]You should asked Oase in Oase forum. But anyway, at Oase, they charge you 50 E if you get in before 2 pm any day. Will this last? I do not know. But it worked for me when I was there last week. Shark charge 50 E (I think) on every Wednesday. So pick an club and have fun.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1954213]Sorry but I always tip when the service is what I was expecting, it is also a easy way for me to have in each of my favorites clubs girls who are a.
Always available for me even during very busy time. Why we are spoiling, you also have the right to tip if you are satisfy by the service. In Europe, in most of the countries tipping I is just part of the game like in the US but I will never tip in China where tipping is not in the DNA of the people.[/QUOTE]I agreed to the 20 euros for kissing without remembering I only had 50 Euro bills so the 30 E was a "tip". I didn't think about going to the front desk to have her break the 50 E bill.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1954725]FYI Dina does not ask for tips, all pricing is normal including extras, and she doesn't select her clients based on tips, but she has the right to be selective on clients (and she is). Stop smearing her image. Her clients tip her because they chose to. She can be very nice at times and also very fierce at another (like most women). All I'm saying is her pricing is fair, but she can be a pain in the ass at times.
Also, threesome with the sisters is at normal price.
Also again, I'll be there on those dates too.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I never expect that my comments meant to mislead. If they did, I apologize to Dina.
Pistons deliberately twisted my words and tried to offend me. I just fought back with sarcasm. Both are ridiculous.
I agree that Dina is still one of the best women in Shark. She never asked for tips directly. She made good and clean money.
See you November.
[QUOTE=GvaCH;1954248]Hi gentlemen,
Will have Friday & Saturday in Frankfurt. Sharks is a must and for the second day, am hesitating between Dietzenbach, Oase and Manhattan. Which day is best for Sharks? Second choice?
Could anyone confirm the Oase 20 e daily discount?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Dietz is an AO club with ugly girls. Nothing to do with Sharks or Mainhattan or Oase or World. If You think Sharks is a must for You, start at Sharks, You will see if You find dreamed girls to repeat on next day or not, then You decide to move or not.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1954387]I met Steffi a few months ago when she just arrived at Sharks, coming from Stuttgart I think. Because she was really pretty, friendly and smiling, I didn't ask her before going to room. In room she was still friendly and no problem for sex, but she said: no kissing and I should have asked her about, before room. She was right, it was my mistake, when I have no problem with most of girls at Sharks about kissing, without extra asked. No extra asked by Steffi, but I never force girls, so only 30 mn room with her, when, with her beauty, she should worth more than 30 mn to take my time to enjoy foreplay and sex with her. Sometimes with skillful kisser, we non stop kiss and foreplay for much more than 30 mn and I never stay only 30 mn with a real attractive GFE, and Steffi is really attractive for look for me....[/QUOTE]It is sad to know that a stunning girl could not make money just because she doesn't kiss. I like her very much because she is very cautious to our safety.
DFK or LFK never fascinate me. The thinking of kissing a mouth with so many blowjob (or CIM) have been done always make me feel nauseous and sick. So gross and disgusting as if you were kissing other men's cocks! I never try DFK with club girls.
Sometimes I accept LFK only if 1) I surely know I am the first guy for the girl at that day and she needs to use the antiseptic mouthwash to rinse her mouth before me. Some girls knew this eccentricity of mine. But I kiss girl's nipple, breast and body. It is safe.
In general the risk of HIV transmission via kissing and oral sex is very low, however if there is minor cut in your or girl's lip, the risk of HIV or STD infection would be significantly higher. So I always look at girls' lips before kissing. No DFK.
Tipping is just throwing away money.
Tipping ruins it for the rest when girls start expecting 200 for half hour.
I don't understand the customers who give tips. Price is the price. Girls do not deserve this. They offer free hours for us? Never. They are only there for the money and not for us.
Service can be nice, girl nice, but their aim is our money and to try to manipulate some of us. Like Sirioja said: "a world of illusion". But the truth is different.
One day, one of my friend helped one of this girl with tips, now he regrets. This poor shit girl laugh now.
The advice is: be careful.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1954590]I always think being decent European gentlemen, we should tip girls especially whom provide good service. I myself consider it as a way to show respect and appreciation. However, there should be some guidelines for tipping, otherwise it would have a bad effect on whole business.
These days, Asians, Americans or some international tourists usually tip girls too much, because the price here is too much lower compare to their home countries. They sometimes spoiled girls too much and might hoist girl expectations which could never be realized.
I did have some my own rules to tip girls:
Most of my favs enjoy multiple-hour-session with me, only exception is the Hungarian girl, whom thought she could make more.
I might be wrong. But I always try to be nice to girls. I respect them, I enjoyed time with them. They told me their life stories, true or fake; I shared with them my life experience in Far East, America and Eastern Europe; we enjoyed our best time together. This is my life, with girls in heaven![/QUOTE]As a Western European, for me, respect has nothing to do with tiping. When you are with a woman in normal life, you tip her? I think she would ask me if I treat her like a prostitute?
Of course, WGs do this job to make fast money, I don't say easy money, some even take risks with services, or on videos to risk to finish as pornstar on internet, but respect is more for me the way to speak to her, to look at her, to touch her, to listen if she agree or not, much more respectful than tiping.
About the Hungarian girl, you have problem about money with, there is club rate, 50/30 mn. I went with Dina when I discovered Sharks on February 2014 , I stayed with her for 1 hour to take my time with her, I gave her 100 , she didn't ask me more, if I don't agree with bullshit about her business, because I unfortunately know the french faker and what we wants from girls, if I heard about one of her "friend" , never heard anything about her from other girls, on the other hand I will not say she was a sensual, skillful woman with me, even she was not unfriendly, but we don't look for same way for sex. So, we never repeated, no problem, as I never repeated with Roxana even before silicon, nor Cosmina who only did worth for me for her BBBJ, when I weekly repeated with Sandra for her behavior and sexual level, Ariana for her freshness, Megan for 1 year, Jana. Hu as a real GF, and I followed Kate at Globe.
You are the client, you get the money, so you can decide how much you want to spend, and also choose girls or clubs. Since a while, for me Sharks is not so good than before, so I found other clubs with more attractive girls for me.
Be free to decide or accept to be fucked.
As Sirioja correctly says, tipping is not necessary to ensure favourites are available. If a girl measures out her performance and attitude in response to 10 euro notes then she is not the level of service provider for me.
Of course I do occasionally give extra, but only when the girl has become a real regular.
Indiscriminate tipping leads to greedy girls.
Of course as HB said tipping by foreigners can subsidise the local regulars who go at quiet times.
There was no sex as there were no men and top girls like Alina who have no problems making money were begging me to take her to the room. They didn't even get laid once which was very surprising.
Paid for entry, makeup, smokes, drinks, and made no money. It was a tough days for most of them, I am too surprised with this as World for me is a top place and in spite of this I will still visit it. In summers it definitely is the best.
I guess just one of those bad days.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1954696]I don't understand your comment I don t visit a FKK for the atmosphere, and I don t believe to be oblige to wait long time for a room is a positive atmosphere knowing that mostly the room will be full of. Many things from the previous session. When you say "any sex happening" how can you know what action is done in the rooms. For me World is the best club and I don't want to convince anyone to visit it, so it will be better for me. For me Shark is a dark place with some good girls but also a lot of mongers.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1954725]FYI Dina does not ask for tips, all pricing is normal including extras, and she doesn't select her clients based on tips, but she has the right to be selective on clients (and she is). Stop smearing her image. Her clients tip her because they chose to. She can be very nice at times and also very fierce at another (like most women). All I'm saying is her pricing is fair, but she can be a pain in the ass at times.
[/QUOTE]I completely agree! She never asked for tips and has always been fair to me as far as pricing is concerned.
I've been a couple times with Dina and she's a nice girl. She is also a little too professional/fake (panting, moaning) in the room IMO, which is unfortunately why the fantasy lost some of it's shine and I stopped seeing her. However, other men might be turned on by her, which is probably the reason of her popularity.
Nevertheless it seems to me that there is some kind of orchestrated campaign (jealousy?) here to discredit her.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1954948]I completely agree! She never asked for tips and has always been fair to me as far as pricing is concerned.
I've been a couple times with Dina and she's a nice girl. She is also a little too professional/fake (panting, moaning) in the room IMO, which is unfortunately why the fantasy lost some of it's shine and I stopped seeing her. However, other men might be turned on by her, which is probably the reason of her popularity.
Nevertheless it seems to me that there is some kind of orchestrated campaign (jealousy?) here to discredit her.[/QUOTE]Also not my type of woman behavior in room, but no problem of upselling or unfriendly behavior with me, and she is pretty and elegant, without tattoo, nor piercing everywhere, it s always a pleasure to see a pretty, natural woman, without silicon, like Dina or Steffi or Agnes. I prefer rather than Gothic, tattooed and pierced everywhere, Sena style, even she seems friendly, but I m not attracted by Harley fans or truck drivers.
[QUOTE=FanOfViagra;1954893]I don't understand the customers who give tips. Price is the price. Girls do not deserve this. They offer free hours for us? Never. They are only there for the money and not for us.
Service can be nice, girl nice, but their aim is our money and to try to manipulate some of us. Like Sirioja said: "a world of illusion". But the truth is different.
One day, one of my friend helped one of this girl with tips, now he regrets. This poor shit girl laugh now.
The advice is: be careful.[/QUOTE]Tipping for standard service makes no sense. Its like buying condoms at the pharmacy and after paying for them giving the sales person a tip for selling them to you. In this hobby tipping is for service rendered over and beyond what was agreed to.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;1954932]There was no sex as there were no men and top girls like Alina who have no problems making money were begging me to take her to the room. They didn't even get laid once which was very surprising.
Paid for entry, makeup, smokes, drinks, and made no money. It was a tough days for most of them, I am too surprised with this as World for me is a top place and in spite of this I will still visit it. In summers it definitely is the best.
I guess just one of those bad days.[/QUOTE]World is often very empty at night after midnight, except on Friday and Saturday, or in some weekdays, since a while, about summer 2014 . But when You have girls on night team, they are free, fresh in mind because happy to stop boring, sitting waiting, so very good for me. World I like with fresh in mind girls happy to get business. Better than tired busy girls.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1954905]I don't agree with bullshit about Dina business, because I unfortunately know the french faker who wrote about her and what we wants from girls...[/QUOTE]What he wants from girls.
Sharks would be boring without Dina walking, swinging her ass, but if Jo likes her, then I can only also like her. See you Jo.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1954972]...she is pretty and elegant, without tattoo, nor piercing everywhere, it s always a pleasure to see a pretty, natural woman, without silicon, like Dina...[/QUOTE]Completely agree seor.
‘ Si, Rioja! 🍷.
😇.
[QUOTE=FanOfViagra;1954893]I don't understand the customers who give tips. Price is the price. Girls do not deserve this. They offer free hours for us? Never. They are only there for the money and not for us.
Service can be nice, girl nice, but their aim is our money and to try to manipulate some of us. Like Sirioja said: "a world of illusion". But the truth is different.
One day, one of my friend helped one of this girl with tips, now he regrets. This poor shit girl laugh now.
The advice is: be careful.[/QUOTE]Girls feel and understand what kind of guy we are, so I don't need to tip, I may not have the face or dick to be asked. Many girls prefer a 600/800 per month guy, rather than a tip and goodbye. Even at upselling Oase, girls never asked me tip. Those who tried to fuck me about time, Elisabet. Hu, Tatiana. Ru now Ilona at GT, a Polish at Sharks will never see me again, even 2 were high level. Even at Wellcum and Andiamo. At where girls are used to tiping Italians, for 6 girls I was their first french guy and none asked me for tip. On the other hand, girls have hugging pandas fallen from the plane, who pay more than the rate because they are afraid girls don't want to go with them.
I wouldn't say girls don't deserve because I know how this bad job is so difficult for mind and health. How many guys would be able to do it? I m honest enough to know I wouldn't be able. Also, when you are lucky to be born in Western Europe, or UK, or USA, with parents who protected you, you can't judge these girls coming from far deep, very poor Moldovan part of Romania, or Bulgaria. So, they need money they can't make at home, they don't do this job for pleasure to be fucked all day long.
When I can, I give advice to my girls, sometimes they change in bad way for their behavior with me and I m disappointed, but I never regret my advice or my money, it s my way for thanking them for pleasure they give me, and I m always happy for them when they retire, wishing them a better life far from brothels.
Of course, this business is only an illusion, but sometimes you can find a girl who will say: I can't believe you are able to come like you are, who keep on kissing you after sex, saying: this time is for free, and after room, coming and saying: I prefer to stay with you, until club close. Illusion can sometimes be magic. Often it doesn't last for long, but then, new girls to discover.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1954972]Also not my type of woman behavior in room, but no problem of upselling or unfriendly behavior with me, and she is pretty and elegant, without tattoo, nor piercing everywhere, it s always a pleasure to see a pretty, natural woman, without silicon, like Dina or Steffi or Agnes. [/QUOTE]Just to mention it: Dina does have a tattoo.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1955149]Just to mention it: Dina does have a tattoo.
HB.[/QUOTE]And a piercing, but I meant elegant, not truck driver style.
Re: Tipping. I'm an American and despite the crazy difference is cost for what I can get in Germany vs at home, I don't tip. I discuss up front with the girl what my expectations are, we discuss price, and from there its game on. At the end of the session if we went long, or I opted for an extra not previously negotiated (CIM / COB / etc), I pay the market rate for the overage and move on. If those cases do happen, it usually means it was a very enjoyable session and I will let the girl know I will plan on repeating. The girls I find the best providers are the ones who strive to provide good service for their customers and build a loyal customer base.
Of course I'm not a regular, so I'll never be a super regular customer for any particular girl (s), but even in just the 2 years I've been visiting FKKs I've built up a rapport with a number of girls, mostly at Sharks, who know I'm a nice honest guy who will treat them nicely and they reciprocate in kind. Of course I also try out new girls every trip, so it's wash rinse repeat.
Anyway. Spent the day yesterday at Sharks. Will hold off on my TR until after I leave since my sessions were a mix of really good and somewhat not so good and I don't want to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] any girls off that I might see over the next week if they read this board. I've already been called out a few times by girls for writing TRs about them. Usually on my next trip to DE, but once on the same trip. Luckily in that case it was a good review and it led to an even better follow up session, but a couple of them were scornful for writing a 'so-so' report, or even writing about them at all!
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1954799]But I kiss girl's nipple, breast and body. It is safe.[/QUOTE]Good areas for cuming! You like sperm finally.
Some notes from my recent visits over the weekend:
Most girls complain about how sharks just accept everyone and there are new girls everyday. I feel bad for them, as business seems very slow, even for top girls. On Sunday, I arrived around 6 pm and there were not many men. I was surprised as normally Sunday is a crazy day.
Sharks is adding more rooms downstairs, 15 rooms I was told. They are also adding more rooms for girls to sleep in.
[B]Tatiana[/B] one of my favorites now. I have a great time with her both inside and outside the room. She is very smart (Pharmacist student), funny, and I find her pretty.
[B]Steffi[/B] as stated before, she was excellent in the room with great LFK. After only a few sessions with her, she's on my favorite list now. Highly recommend.
[B]Dina[/B] and [B]Nicolletta[/B] went back to HUN on Sunday. Supposed to be back in two weeks. If I remember correctly. I have never tried Dina but always had a great time with Nicoletta. She was busier than Dina on Sat that I didn't have time to grab her.
[B]Helli[/B] was super busy, as usual. I have not been with her for a while due to her popularity. Good for her. One of my all-time favorite.
[B]Ester[/B] we always have a great session in the room. I used to go with her everyday or sometimes multiple times a day. She saw me talking to Tatiana pre-session and went with her for multiple hours. She told me she doesn't want to lose me and actually gave me an offer like, we can go sit and talk for 30 minutes, then go to the room. She even offered me 50 E discount on our 1 HR session. So funny, how she can be nice and sweet, just to keep the business. No more moody and bitchy from her.
[B]Megan[/B] always have a nice time with her. She is a cool girl. She knows that I have my favorites but never pressure me to go with her. Always came to say Hi and made a quick chat. I really like her as a person and of course she is hot!
[B]Madalina[/B] always have a great session with her. I have not seen anyone that has a bad session with her. I guess she's wearing a brace now. She's also a roommate with Megan.
[B]Dora[/B] blonde, small face (according to her), sagging see, She was nice to me outside the room and even kissed me. I have been rejecting her for the past couple trips. The session was not bad but I think I have my other favorites that are way ahead of her.
[B]Ariana[/B] apparently, her regular told her about the "service" that she offered that someone wrote. She was actually a good sport when we talked and even said "good, maybe all the guys will come to her now". I only talk to her as she always sits with Tatiana.
Girls that were missing Roxana, Evita, Cosmina.
A lot of nice girls that I like that doesn't have that much business that I felt so bad for: Naya, Lavinia, Everlina, Sabine.
I was told that Karin might be back soon. She's back in Romania and was going to go to Maldives with one of my regular. But I guess the money is running out.
Visited on Sunday, sessioned woth 2 girls:
Ellie (Cuba): average body, CTits. Ok session, pussy tasted sweaty but she was nice, rating 5/10, probably would not repeat.
Kati (Ro), curly brown hair, thin: sessioned in Kino, fantastic BBBJ and BLS with lots of spit, light kissing, anal while she played with my balls and asshole. Overall a satisfying session, rating 7/10, would repeat.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1954948]I completely agree! She never asked for tips and has always been fair to me as far as pricing is concerned.
I've been a couple times with Dina and she's a nice girl. She is also a little too professional/fake (panting, moaning) in the room IMO
Nevertheless it seems to me that there is some kind of orchestrated campaign (jealousy?) here to discredit her.[/QUOTE]+1.
I have sessioned with Dina several times a year since 2014. She had never asked for more money. She stopped the fake moaning after our very first session after I told her I did not like it.
However, she is often moody after 6 pm, so I try to get her early or not at all. This is not always easy to achieve as her early slots are often pre-booked by others.
She makes good money that enables her to go back to Hungary quite often, and I believe this is what make some other Romananian girls jealous enough to want to smear her.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1954799]It is sad to know that a stunning girl could not make money just because she doesn't kiss. I like her very much because she is very cautious to our safety.
DFK or LFK never fascinate me. The thinking of kissing a mouth with so many blowjob (or CIM) have been done always make me feel nauseous and sick. So gross and disgusting as if you were kissing other men's cocks! I never try DFK with club girls.
Sometimes I accept LFK only if 1) I surely know I am the first guy for the girl at that day and she needs to use the antiseptic mouthwash to rinse her mouth before me. Some girls knew this eccentricity of mine. But I kiss girl's nipple, breast and body. It is safe.
In general the risk of HIV transmission via kissing and oral sex is very low, however if there is minor cut in your or girl's lip, the risk of HIV or STD infection would be significantly higher. So I always look at girls' lips before kissing. No DFK.[/QUOTE]On first time I saw blond Steffi. Ro, as a woman beauty lover, as I do every time I see a beauty in any club, I went straight to her, I couldn't miss a natural beauty without tattoo like her, what I would call a virgin look, even she is in this business since a while. She was really friendly and looked a little bit shy, so I didn't ask her about services, thinking I will manage in room. I don't regret my 50 because I wanted her, but I was frustrated because a beauty like her should worth more time to enjoy foreplay, and money. I agree, a nice, friendly beauty for guys who are not looking for kissing, but I look for, I can't have good sex without, or without licking foreplay.
I can't say why one of the 3 most beautiful girls at Sharks for me, was not busy, maybe too pretty for many guys, maybe because sitting in rear places, when she arrived, she sit at the bar.
Nearly no risk for HIV or STD, when kissing, not more than catching cold, I never felt other sperm taste when I kiss in brothels, only mine after BJ. So good to have 20 mn kissing after cumming, to recover, or to be ready again and the best is when this time is offered by your girl saying: thank you for coming. She was so scared when I showed her before going, she mistook about the room number on the key, and entered in a room where a guy was fucking a girl. But a magic night with her, also after the room, until closed.
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;1955172][B]Tatiana[/B] one of my favorites now. I have a great time with her both inside and outside the room. She is very smart (Pharmacist student), funny, and I find her pretty.[/QUOTE]Please describe Tatiana. I might know who is she but want to double-check. Thanks.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;1955206]
She makes good money that enables her to go back to Hungary quite often, and I believe this is what make some other Romananian girls jealous enough to want to smear her.[/QUOTE]True, she probably makes good money, but I guess she is also a lot smarter than many of her Romanian colleagues in choosing her 'boyfriends,' by avoiding pimps and other leeches who drive expensive cars and expect her to pay for it.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1955142] who tried to fuck me about time, Elisabet. Hu, Tatiana. Ru now Ilona at GT, a Polish at Sharks will never see me again, even 2 were high level.[/QUOTE]Si Rioja 🍷, who tried to fuck you over about time at Sharks?
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1955346]True, she probably makes good money, but I guess she is also a lot smarter than many of her Romanian colleagues in choosing her 'boyfriends,' by avoiding pimps and other leeches who drive expensive cars and expect her to pay for it.
Si Rioja 🍷, who tried to fuck you over about time at Sharks?[/QUOTE]Dina doesn't need taxi driver, at least.
I won t name this Sharks girl, those who know me know, because I really liked to go with her. When I left Madi World on 2 May 2015, thanks to Syzy for the good advice, a real woman discovery, but I don t like to pay for time to smoke when I don t smoke, after sex. I hate smoke.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1955367]...but I don t like to pay for time to smoke when I don t smoke, after sex. I hate smoke.[/QUOTE]I also don't smoke and it bothers me especially at some clubs but nevertheless ofc I allow all my favs smoking in room at paid time. Very good sex is for me a give and take. My favs usually feel with cigarette break better, I also need in long time sessions my breaks. And after cigarette break I always get my return of this investment from my favs.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1955247]On first time I saw blond Steffi. a nice, friendly beauty for guys who are not looking for kissing, but I look for, I can't have good sex without, .[/QUOTE]First time I saw Steffi I talked with her and she told me she don't kiss. And that's a NoGo for me, sometimes I haven't asked before session and I realise in room that the girl don't kiss. But with no kiss usually impossible to survive more than 30 minutes in room with me.
Badin. Great report as usual (and thanks to Bitumen for a great report as well). Good to know you had a good time with Tatiana. She is awesome. Such a pretty smile. Hope to see her again soon. For jymondor. She is petite, not too skinny but nice and shapely, reddish brown hair, great smile, hangs with Ariana, is Romanian, and slightly sagging but good sized natural tits. Speaks pretty good English.
BTW, has any one seen Aylice of late in the club?
Re: tipping. This has to be the hundredth time we had the discussion here in 3 years, LOL. Anyway, for those who are so vehemently anti tipping, under what circumstances and where (restaurants, massage parlors, cab drivers, you name it) would you tip? Do you think tipping should never be done by anyone anywhere? If you think it's ok to tip in some place, be it restaurants or whatever, why is tipping in the club so bad? Of course, it should not become mandatory, as it almost has become in US restaurants.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1955320]Please describe Tatiana. I might know who is she but want to double-check. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I guess I assume she is well known when she is not. She's Romanain, 22, kinda short, used to have long brown / reddish hair at the end. But now brown with blonde end, drooping see, likes to sit with Ariana, now they usually sit at the sofa right by the Solarium and the round stage. Be warn of her BBBJ skills as this could be improved but I don't have the nerve to tell her. I'm afraid I might hurt her feelings eventhough everything else is perfect for me.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1955456]First time I saw Steffi I talked with her and she told me she don't kiss. And that's a NoGo for me, sometimes I haven't asked before session and I realise in room that the girl don't kiss. But with no kiss usually impossible to survive more than 30 minutes in room with me.[/QUOTE]Maybe business nowadays is so slow that she changed her mind? I don't know. I was in the same boat with you but she was super nice outside the room I figure what the heck, she's worth a try. I still kept telling her that I'm mad at myself and should have taken her in my previous trips.
Siri, you must have left a good (or bad) impression on her. She asked me how did I know that she doesn't kiss. I told her, my friend, who is French, told me. She was like. I know that guy. And described what you said numerous times about how you didn't ask before hand about her not kissing pre-room.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1955452]I also don't smoke and it bothers me especially at some clubs but nevertheless ofc I allow all my favs smoking in room at paid time. Very good sex is for me a give and take. My favs usually feel with cigarette break better, I also need in long time sessions my breaks. And after cigarette break I always get my return of this investment from my favs.[/QUOTE]First room on 3 May 2015 was 1 hour, but others were 2 hours, despite few problems out of the room, but I really enjoyed with her. On last time, I took all my time with her for 2 hours, when we finiished just before 2 hours, she asked me if she could smoke before leaving the room, so I waited for her. I don't pay twice time to smoke after sex, not between rounds while recovering.
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;1955544]Maybe business nowadays is so slow that she changed her mind? I don't know. I was in the same boat with you but she was super nice outside the room I figure what the heck, she's worth a try. I still kept telling her that I'm mad at myself and should have taken her in my previous trips.
Siri, you must have left a good (or bad) impression on her. She asked me how did I know that she doesn't kiss. I told her, my friend, who is French, told me. She was like. I know that guy. And described what you said numerous times about how you didn't ask before hand about her not kissing pre-room.[/QUOTE]At least she can't say I m not honest, I always wrote it was my mistake not to ask her, but I don't regret my time with her for her beauty, I would have liked to enjoy longer time room with her.
Many girls read us, my friend Erika told me many girls speak about me at Sharks, not my goal at all and I don't care, but at least I m not afraid of girls, and I never force girls.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1955095]What he wants from girls.
Sharks would be boring without Dina walking, swinging her ass, but if Jo likes her, then I can only also like her. See you Jo.[/QUOTE]Who is Jo?
Summary.
In the past week, We mainly focused on discussing two wonderful and stunning girls: Dina and Steffi.
Dina.
Dina is a gorgeous woman, with moodiness quite often, but is nice and friendly most of time. She might be conceited or presumptuous, but she is honest and fair to her clients. So far, all the rumors about her were uncovered. She is descent and professional. She never asked for tips but welcome if they choose to pay her extra. I believe that She has always been the best and continues to be one of the best at Sharks. She is more than beautiful but smart.
Steffi.
Steffi is one of the most prettiest girls in whole Sharks club. The Frenchman "Sirioja" thought Steffi is "one of the 3 most beautiful girls at Sharks", I sometimes agreed. Not only does she look very beautiful, and be very friendly and compliant, but her face is often with a pure girl 's smile and shyness. We are very lucky to have this angel in FKK club. If she were born in a German, or UK, or US middle class family, With her intellect, she could go to Cambridge, or Ivy Leagues, surrounded by her young admirers, rather than our middle-aged beer belly.
Steffi did offer me light french kiss, DATY, BBBJ even in our first-time room. BTW, I think She is very concerned about personal hygiene, herself and customers. A guy with all sort of bad odor and rude behaviors is not worthy of her good service. She is selective too.
I wish Steffi could get more business and stay at Sharks longer. Without her appearance, the club will become boring with less beautiful scenery.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1955581]In the past week, We mainly focused on discussing two wonderful and stunning girls: Dina and Steffi.
Dina.
Steffi.
Steffi is one of the most prettiest girls in whole Sharks club. The Frenchman "Sirioja" thought Steffi is "one of the 3 most beautiful girls at Sharks"
I wish Steffi could get more business and stay at Sharks longer. Without her appearance, the club will become boring with less beautiful scenery.[/QUOTE]I agree Dina and Steffi are 2 beautiful women, Dina is a star at Sharks since years and Steffi is now at Sharks since a while. I wish to both the business they need and to Steffi to stay for our eyes pleasure, because not so many beauties for my last Summer visits, so no more weekly visits. My eyes need beauty, GND make me cry.
But from my experiences with both and not only about lack of kissing from Steffi who was really friendly, but when You have been with super GFE Aylice. Bu, angels Sandra. De or Marina. Lat, Agnes, Ariana on March 2016 , classy Alice on April 2016, tornado Roberta. Ro even only once because she wanted to return to Zurich, so sensual Leila who also didn t stay, I was lucky to meet really high sexual level girls at Sharks. Also Jana. Hu on 2014. I don't think both can compete for this level, because they are too professional to let You lead and be able to trust You to lose control. But each one his expectations, experiences and pleasure, of course. I just enjoy the illusion to be with a GF in room, not a paid sex professional. For the claimed Nobel awards, I m just interested by illusion in room, because when I see what happens in brothels, it kills my illusion. For my last time with Kate, at the end of enjoyable room as always with such a woman, I said to her: No Larissa today, so maybe we can repeat later, she was quite busy after our room as always, I watched Japan, not in live, F1. When she came to me at 11 pm, I recovered but answered: no, not now. Globe close at midnight. I knew it was maybe our last time, but I was not attracted by her behavior and her image she showed me at that moment, even I always loved her since first minute chatting on couch. Also why I hate lack of respect, even in brothels, because it makes dark image. Dark is only for ghosts.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1955580]Who is Jo?[/QUOTE]What is important for you or others is what you are able to do, not who are my very few friends in clubs or on this forum. In this land of bullshit, lies, jealousy and lack of respect, between girls and between guys, only a very few girls and guys interest me, so you will never find me with a low level French group, I prefer to play with my pink teddy bear, I miss it.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1955705]In this land of bullshit, lies, jealousy and lack of respect, between girls and between guys, only a very few girls and guys interest me[/QUOTE]Such true words.
If I could go back to graduate school, I would have written my thesis on FKK sociology.
[QUOTE=Takedown;1955808]Such true words.
If I could go back to graduate school, I would have written my thesis on FKK sociology.[/QUOTE]Sociology investigation should be more interesting about clients, so many businessmen as clever as a pig. Unfortunately Romanian girls were born in a poor country when the world changed after the wall fell, but I always say to them to be proud of their origins. Romanian girls are quite beautiful women and old fat should be clever enough to understand they are lucky to touch them, only because they need money.
What I don t understand is why many German girls are Turkish pimped? No young beautiful clever German guys?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1955705]What is important for you or others is what you are able to do, not who are my very few friends in clubs or on this forum. In this land of bullshit, lies, jealousy and lack of respect, between girls and between guys, only a very few girls and guys interest me, so you will never find me with a low level French group, I prefer to play with my pink teddy bear, I miss it.[/QUOTE]Wow. So many words to avoid answering a simple question which your uncomprehensible prose created. If you do not want to talk about it then do not write it here.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1955836]Sociology investigation should be more interesting about clients, so many businessmen as clever as a pig. Unfortunately Romanian girls were born in a poor country when the world changed after the wall fell, but I always say to them to be proud of their origins. Romanian girls are quite beautiful women and old fat should be clever enough to understand they are lucky to touch them, only because they need money.
What I don t understand is why many German girls are Turkish pimped? No young beautiful clever German guys?[/QUOTE]Wow, the racism really comes through. Your comments have the similar feel to what the Saracens from around the year 1000 AD were reported to have identified as defining characteristics, of what they called the Franks (Gallic people), as having "a ferocious sense of honor (sound familiar?) and a distaste for taking baths".
I also expect your comment about there being "No young beautiful clever German guys" will be a affront to the German readers of this forum. I will let them further comment on that point.
Regarding your proposal that pimps are primarily Turkish, instead of using made up concepts that one has pre-conceived in their own mind, I am going to turn to hard statistics provided by the international central office of the German police called the Bundeskrimalamt whose acronym is BKA.
There are more recent reports in German but to keep this English for the forum, the latest report on Trafficking in Human Beings report is for 2014 data published on 19 January 2016. The report is broken out into a section on Trafficking in Human Beings for Sexual Exploitation and Trafficking in Human Beings for the purpose of Exploitation of workers.
[URL]https://www.bka.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/EN/Publications/AnnualReportsAndSituationAssessments/TraffickingInHumanBeings/traffickingInHumanBeingsReport2014.html?nn=39740[/URL]
To summarize:
The largest origin countries of the suspects ("the pimps") are from:
1.) Germany 2014:23.7% 2013:28.2%.
2.) Romania 2014:20.9% 2013:14.9%.
3.) Bulgaria 2014:20.1% 2013:23%.
4.) Turkey 2014:5.7% 2013:3.4%.
Even if you irrationally assume all the "Germans" not born in Germany as being Turkish and add them to the Turkish percentages then the Turkish totals increase from 5. 7% to 10.8% in 2014 and 3. 4% to 9. 37% in 2013. These numbers are still way below the number of Germans, Romanian and Bulgarian suspects.
As to the nationality of the victims it is easy to see as we do see the girls in the clubs that the nationality break out in 2014 are:
1.) Romanian 37.9% - the Romanian group has gotten larger year on year.
2.) Bulgarian 16%.
3.) Germany 15.8% - the German group has gotten smaller year on year.
In terms of recruitment of victims to work in the sex industry the statistics indicate these are the primary methods:
1.) Lover boy method 46%.
2.) Consent (but mainly misled consent) 24%.
3.) Recruited professional (e.g. Advert) 22%.
I propose to you Sirioja that you may want to change your perception regarding pimps and the association with Turkish people.
[QUOTE=Takedown;1955808]Such true words.[/QUOTE]But, they are here Mobius strip, the tail of Ouroboros.
The math is wrong. 5. 7 + 23.7 = 29.4% turkish?
For Bitumen,
I wrote many German girls are Turkish pimped, ask Janine, Sam was at GT even with a pimping Turkish girl, Cora may be. Why pretty German girls can't find a beautiful and clever German guy who would like to take care of them, working to make his own money, not living spending girl money. I don't remember having asked money to a girl to buy car or flat. But I work with courageous Turkish.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1956082]The math is wrong. 5. 7 + 23.7 = 29.4% turkish?[/QUOTE]Well that is one way to put it that all Germans are Turkish.
I was referencing the data in the link. The BKA file was too big to attach to my post so I had to link the BKA report of 2014.
The sex trafficking statistics for 2014 regarding suspects was 23.7% were Germans. Of that 23.7% German suspects there was 3. 6% who were Germans that were not originally born in Germany. So my proposition was even if we assumed that entire 3. 6% of non German born "Germans" were actually Turkish born and added them to the Turkish total of 5. 7% we still only get to 9. 3% or less than 10% which is still way less number of suspects when compared to the number of native Germans, Romanians and Bulgarians suspects of sex trafficking on their own.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1955836], so many businessmen as clever as a pig.
old fat should be clever enough to understand they are lucky to touch them, only because they need money.
[/QUOTE]If its all bad in German FKK, why do you still visit? Do you think the girls like you more than others? You are a lot older than them, you pay, you're not different. I can't hear that BS anymore.
HB.
Bitumen, but most turkish germans are german born.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1956180]Bitumen, but most turkish germans are german born.[/QUOTE]Then they are Germans, right? Or do you still call them Turkish? I would call them German.
Would you classify a Black American born in America as African? In my book they are American.
My initial proposal to counter Sirioja's concept that there was a high preponderance of Turkish who are pimps and these are generally pimps of German girls was looking at the statistics from the BKA the number of Turkish pimps was relatively low compared to the number of Germans, Romanians and Bulgarians suspects of pimping. So even if you add in the non German born "Germans" into the Turkish group then it is still not a large number.
Now you are saying that most Turkish Germans are German born then that makes them German and not Turkish. So if that is the case then Siroja should be saying how lucky that German working girls are having as their pimps beautiful and charismatic and clever German men to make them work for them.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1956188]Then they are Germans, right? Or do you still call them Turkish? I would call them German.
Would you classify a Black American born in America as African? In my book they are American.[/QUOTE]I call them turkish and african yes. The world suck in integration anywhere and everywhere in the world. In Singapore for example there are indian people born there who doesn't even want a Singaporean passport because they say they are Indian, even if they are born in Singapore. In Kuwaith I have a Palestinean friend who is born there, but his family has lived there for less than 40 years, so no passport. He still says he is Palestinean and not Kuwaithi. What politicians tell you is politics. But look at people and you can see the difference. It doesn't mean people from different countries are less worth. But calling a turk a german just because he is born in Germany is laughable.
In China, the common question regarding where people come from is best translated as 'where does your family come from?'. Nobody asks 'where do you come from?' Chinese politics even states that they will protect ethnic chinese even when these ethnic chinese have other citizenships. That is logic in china. And for a long time china was the center of human civilization. Not the west, and especially not politically motivated bildenberg/rothschild/soros nwo propaganda. Dont be a fool...
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1956148]If its all bad in German FKK, why do you still visit? Do you think the girls like you more than others? You are a lot older than them, you pay, you're not different. I can't hear that BS anymore.
HB.[/QUOTE]Did I wrote I don't like German brothels I visit every week? I know they are much better than in Spain, or Praga. Cz for rates, clubs services and girls level, even better than few clubs I visited in Moscow or Peter. Ru, except Olga in Peter. Only Swiss clubs can compete but more expensive. I'm not attracted by Asian girls, so no Asia for me.
I just answered about sociology, so many claimed businessmen in brothels, makes me laugh, I am not, all my girls know my real job, because I'm proud of it, so I don't need to claim I'm the president of universe. Just have to speak with a guy to understand his level. I understood very fast I was lucky to meet pretty Romanian girls, sometimes for only 40 , sometimes for 560 with Isabella but soon we will have 3 years of love, I just try to do the job to get what I enjoy with them, don't work so bad most of time, mainly with Romanian girls who are my best for their sweetness, when not so good anymore, we are not married with children, so next one, that s the game. One animal die, many are born, that's like in Savanah.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1956196] 'where does your family come from?'. Nobody asks 'where do you come from?' .[/QUOTE]I asked a girl where she was from and got the usual Romania answer. She then asked me where I was from and I said America and she said 'so your American then? My answer was 'well, not really' since the only real 'Americans' are the native americans that were here first. I said 'I'm a mutt' of several different European countries.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1956196]I call them turkish and african yes. The world suck in integration anywhere and everywhere in the world. [/QUOTE]So with this way of thinking, the president of the United States is african. LOL.
Bitumen, I'm afraid that there must be something wrong with these statistics. Siri has stated again and again, over and over, that he works with lots of Turkish men, so he must be an expert on the subject. I don't why you would defer to trying to ascertain the truth from official statistics when we have the expert Siri on the job to share his expert wisdom with us?
Also, I noticed that you left out the official government statistics regarding the average dick size of the pimps. I am fairly certain that if you had shared these statistics, they would have supported Siri's claim (in every other of his posts) that all pimps have small dicks. I am not sure how Siri has managed to conduct scientific studies on the dick sizes of pimps, but I am confident that he would not be posting such claims without having studied extensively in this area. I mean, don't forget -- he works with lots of Turkish men.
Siri, please don't let Bitumen's supposed "official" statistics or silly facts sway your opinions. Please don't let these silly facts deter you from continuing to report on your extensive observations about pimp dick sizes. We are truly fascinated and can't wait to read more posts that repeat these same claims over and over and over and over again -- even if you don't share your basis for these conclusions -- because we know that you work with lots of Turkish men. Frankly, that's enough for me!
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1956070]Wow, the racism really comes through.
Regarding your proposal that pimps are primarily Turkish, instead of using made up concepts that one has pre-conceived in their own mind, I am going to turn to hard statistics provided by the international central office of the German police called the Bundeskrimalamt whose acronym is BKA.
[URL]https://www.bka.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/EN/Publications/AnnualReportsAndSituationAssessments/TraffickingInHumanBeings/traffickingInHumanBeingsReport2014.html?nn=39740[/URL]
To summarize:
The largest origin countries of the suspects ("the pimps") are from:
1.) Germany 2014:23.7% 2013:28.2%.
2.) Romania 2014:20.9% 2013:14.9%.
3.) Bulgaria 2014:20.1% 2013:23%.
4.) Turkey 2014:5.7% 2013:3.4%.
Even if you irrationally assume all the "Germans" not born in Germany as being Turkish and add them to the Turkish percentages then the Turkish totals increase from 5. 7% to 10.8% in 2014 and 3. 4% to 9. 37% in 2013. These numbers are still way below the number of Germans, Romanian and Bulgarian suspects.
As to the nationality of the victims it is easy to see as we do see the girls in the clubs that the nationality break out in 2014 are:
1.) Romanian 37.9% - the Romanian group has gotten larger year on year.
2.) Bulgarian 16%.
3.) Germany 15.8% - the German group has gotten smaller year on year.
I propose to you Sirioja that you may want to change your perception regarding pimps and the association with Turkish people.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Breadman;1956221]I asked a girl where she was from and got the usual Romania answer. She then asked me where I was from and I said America and she said 'so your American then? My answer was 'well, not really' since the only real 'Americans' are the native americans that were here first. I said 'I'm a mutt' of several different European countries.[/QUOTE]'Native americans' came from asia though. So hardly much native... There has been several settlements from asia and europe and probably even africa (in south america) back and forth for milennias. It just happens that the europeans won the latest clash of wars. The human species didn't originate in america. But you are right to some degree. There is no specific american trait one can recognize you from visually as opposed to a mix of other countries.
Guyfromparis: at least half kenyan. I believe he is also half irish... it is pretty obvious isnt it? You have to be either blind or quite brainwashed not to agree with that. Take a lobotomized person who stay away from news and loose his sense of hearing, and make him travel to all countries in the world except for usa, and then ask him where Obama is from. If he is really good, he would say half irish/half kenyan
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1956225]Bitumen, I'm afraid that there must be something wrong with these statistics. Siri has stated again and again, over and over, that he works with lots of Turkish men, so he must be an expert on the subject. I don't why you would defer to trying to ascertain the truth from official statistics when we have the expert Siri on the job to share his expert wisdom with us?
[/QUOTE]I'm afraid Siri will take this Siri-ously.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1941356]183 cm, blue eyes. A friend did her on Saturday and was quite enthusiastic.
HB.[/QUOTE]I did have a few awesome sessions with her. Planing a new trip to Sharks to repeat with her.
Guys, you know which hours / days is most likely to find her at sharks?
Then again 'mutt' is a slang for mongrel. If anything, that is racist. And far more than anything else on these boards. Congratulations Breadman, you win the douche award 2016.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1956274]Then again 'mutt' is a slang for mongrel. If anything, that is racist. And far more than anything else on these boards. Congratulations Breadman, you win the douche award 2016.[/QUOTE]I don't know about other countries, but many people in the states use the term "mutt" to jokingly refer to themselves as of mixed ethnicity. When used to refer to oneself, this term is not considered offensive. It can even be used to refer to another jokingly without offense if delivered in the correct tone.
I for one thank Herr Brotmann for his contributions.
Now it's time for someone to yell at us for posting too much non-Shark stuff in the Sharks thread. I am ready for my scolding now.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1956221]I asked a girl where she was from and got the usual Romania answer. She then asked me where I was from and I said America and she said 'so your American then? My answer was 'well, not really' since the only real 'Americans' are the native americans that were here first. I said 'I'm a mutt' of several different European countries.[/QUOTE]Breadman. I am an American mutt as well. I wonder if we all went to [URL]Ancestry.com[/URL] we would find out we are all mutts.
BTW. This term is not offensive at all. I am personally more offended by people that have a chip on their shoulder that try to find racism at every turn.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1956274]Then again 'mutt' is a slang for mongrel. If anything, that is racist. And far more than anything else on these boards. Congratulations Breadman, you win the douche award 2016.[/QUOTE]Your just upset because I outed you in a previous post. Don't hold a grudge, not all of us are fat bottom girl lovers like you. Big girls need loving too, just tie a board around your ass so you don't fall in.
[QUOTE=HungryStud101;1956289]I am personally more offended by people that have a chip on their shoulder that try to find racism at every turn.[/QUOTE]Well said last part. Can't say I see the point in the rest. With that sense of humor, I guess 'mutt' is a fitting description after all. Seems the world is doomed. Anyway, new topic: Sharks.
Breadman: what other post? I havent even memorized your nick as you havent made an impression on me at all so far... (it is actually true). Oh yes, and I weigh 160 kg, all fat, so be careful I might sit on you if I meet you one day...
[QUOTE=HungryStud101;1956289]Breadman. I am an American mutt as well. I wonder if we all went to [URL]Ancestry.com[/URL] we would find out we are all mutts.
BTW. This term is not offensive at all. I am personally more offended by people that have a chip on their shoulder that try to find racism at every turn.[/QUOTE]Your name rings a bell. Only because you reported about one of the most stunning girl I've seen at a club. It's been awhile, but dunno if you recall reporting about an Hungarian girl named Deanna that showed up to Oase years ago. Man, it's been years. I think you and I were one of the few witnesses of this stunning girl. Incredibly gorgeous. Good times..
This may jogg your memory. And yes, she was a 10 face and body.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1096-FKK-Oase-Burgholzhausen&p=1275051&viewfull=1#post1275051[/URL]
Two points:
1. I do not know many Black Americans who refer to themselves as African American, much less consider themselves African. The only time the term African American is ever used in America is in politically correct arenas such as TV, public speeches, or written documentation. If you tell a Black American that he is African, that would be very insulting. Almost always, "African Americans" refer to themselves as Black.
2. Turkish Germans seem to consider themselves Turkish more than German. Every time I ask a Turkish looking German national where he is from, I never hear "German. " Even when I ask if he is a German citizen and he confirms that fact, it is always accompanied with "but I am Turkish. "
So. Two different ethnic populations in two different countries with two opposite ways of self-identification.
Anyway, I think this just gives some validity to Siri's assessment that there is a high incidence of Turkish pimps in Germany. Even if these pimps are German nationals, perhaps they are of Turkish decent. Heck, many Romanians are ethnically Turkish. As such, I'm sure the actual number of pimps of Turkish descent is much, much higher than the census of 3-4% or provided by Bitumen's data.
Melanie.
21 yo of Romanian girl with school-teacher-like black glasses (since August). She at first was not enough shinning to give rise to my attention. Until one day I suddenly noticed this Bonnie girl with extremely fair skin. Her pretty face with some kind of sadness made me approach her without hesitation.
In room, her service is above my acceptable level. BBBJ, LFK, etc. She at our first time told me to slow down because of little pain. I then treated her more gently. She then had no complaint. She just looked like teenage with her skinny body and tiny butt. Even so, I was still satisfied with her service.
Melanie is very nice and sweet. She is one of Sharks girls I'd like to tease without pressure. There were several times when Megan was absent, I intended sat there to stare at Melanie to make her nervous. She asked for room, I always pretended to reject her and tried to make fun of her until she turned annoyed. To me she looked more interesting when she was slightly angry. I then asked to go, but she pushed me away and swore not to go with me. I started to soothe her as if she were my girlfriend. Then always we had subsequent one hour wonderful time together. Wasn't I ridiculous?
We had about 5-6 one-hour-session already. Maybe she is not as pretty as the famous Megan, Helli, or Anja. But I am pretty sure I will give her quite a few repeats in my following visits.
It seems to me that Melanie is one of a few girls with personal future plan. She told me she would start college education next year after she get relative enough money to cover her tuition. Smart girl! She dreamed to be an IT or financial professional women in Romania. If it were true, I think I would offer her more help.
[QUOTE=Takedown;1956326]
2. Turkish Germans seem to consider themselves Turkish more than German. Every time I ask a Turkish looking German national where he is from, I never hear "German. " Even when I ask if he is a German citizen and he confirms that fact, it is always accompanied with "but I am Turkish. "
Anyway, I think this just gives some validity to Siri's assessment that there is a high incidence of Turkish pimps in Germany. Even if these pimps are German nationals, perhaps they are of Turkish decent. Heck, many Romanians are ethnically Turkish. As such, I'm sure the actual number of pimps of Turkish descent is much, much higher than the census of 3-4% or provided by Bitumen's data.[/QUOTE]These Turkish sure do make a rushed beeline for the EU citizens passport / identity card lines than the non EU passports / identity card line when at immigration control. They are not Turkish then.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1956397]These Turkish sure do make a rushed beeline for the EU citizens passport / identity card lines than the non EU passports / identity card line when at immigration control. They are not Turkish then.[/QUOTE]I think you missed the point. Either on purpose of by being completely dense, but it doesn't really matter why.
Hello everybody!
I'm long time following this forum and got really good advise back then.
I'm planning to visit Frankfurt at mid of November and have 2 days free to spend. I just have couple questions that couldn't find answer by reading here.
- My plan was to visit Palace 1 day and Sharks 1 day. But, as I see on Palace section, there are so many negative comments about the place. Should I change it to 2 days sharks visit?
- I read many comments about different girls. But I'm not sure if I will recognize which girl is who? Is there any catalog in club, shows girls with name / pictures?
- 50 standard fee includes what? Any extra service between girl and me?
- Is there a train or bus from Darmstadt to Frankfurt at anytime or what time is the latest. I may consider, find a hotel nearby.
Thank you in advance.
[QUOTE=Takedown;1956507]I think you missed the point. Either on purpose of by being completely dense, but it doesn't really matter why.[/QUOTE]So, all the girls are pimped, not independent and all customers give money for their pimp. What a fuck! And girls love their job, take pleasure with their customers only to satisfy their pimp. But if they hate their job with some customers they like with others. A lot of contradictions and bullshit.
How to accept to fuck with girls victims of slavery and satisfy their pimp than girls? It is really not fun.
[QUOTE=Macty;1956528]Hello everybody!
I'm long time following this forum and got really good advise back then.
I'm planning to visit Frankfurt at mid of November and have 2 days free to spend. I just have couple questions that couldn't find answer by reading here.
- My plan was to visit Palace 1 day and Sharks 1 day. But, as I see on Palace section, there are so many negative comments about the place. Should I change it to 2 days sharks visit?
- I read many comments about different girls. But I'm not sure if I will recognize which girl is who? Is there any catalog in club, shows girls with name / pictures?
- 50 standard fee includes what? Any extra service between girl and me?
- Is there a train or bus from Darmstadt to Frankfurt at anytime or what time is the latest. I may consider, find a hotel nearby.
Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]If I were you, I would visit Sharks twice and skip Palace. A lot of those negative posts are true.
50 euros session means, 30 minutes for BBBJ, DATY, some kissing and normal sex. Depends on the girl, the intensity and the service provided varies.
Rent a car. It's better.
But really, you should spend some time and read the thread. Some reading will help you tremendously.
The girls will come to you to entice you for their services. When they come, they will tell you their names. Simply match the description written here with the names.
To each man, his own though.
I have read the vast amount of info here for many years which has proven to be a great resource.
Disclosure. Lost log in info so I had to register with a similar user name as before.
I appreciate everyone's input on this great forum.
DYODD
Jesus Christ, most here have the attention span of a 5 year old. This is a topic about Sharks, not about the ethnic origin of [U]suspected[/U] pimps!
Is there any moderation going on here, apart from trivial things like "unnecessary hard returns? COULD WE PLEASE stop this bullshit discussion about race / being Turkish, or perhaps move it to FKK FAQ or General Info?
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2601-FKK-FAQ[/URL]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1089-General-Info[/URL]
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1956639]COULD WE PLEASE stop this bullshit discussion about race / being Turkish
][/QUOTE]Does anyone know of any Turkish girls at Sharks? Are they really from Turkey? Or are they just Germans of Turkish descent?
Are there any American black girls at Sharks? And would they be offended if I called them African American? Or should I just call them black girls?
Feedback would be appreciated.
[QUOTE=Macty;1956528]Hello everybody!
I'm long time following this forum and got really good advise back then.
I'm planning to visit Frankfurt at mid of November and have 2 days free to spend. I just have couple questions that couldn't find answer by reading here.
- My plan was to visit Palace 1 day and Sharks 1 day. But, as I see on Palace section, there are so many negative comments about the place. Should I change it to 2 days sharks visit?
- I read many comments about different girls. But I'm not sure if I will recognize which girl is who? Is there any catalog in club, shows girls with name / pictures?
- 50 standard fee includes what? Any extra service between girl and me?
- Is there a train or bus from Darmstadt to Frankfurt at anytime or what time is the latest. I may consider, find a hotel nearby.
Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]I have a car why not trying a visit to Oase or World, for me better LU in Oase at this time than in Shark.
[QUOTE=Macty;1956528]Hello everybody!
I'm long time following this forum and got really good advise back then.
I'm planning to visit Frankfurt at mid of November and have 2 days free to spend. I just have couple questions that couldn't find answer by reading here.
- My plan was to visit Palace 1 day and Sharks 1 day. But, as I see on Palace section, there are so many negative comments about the place. Should I change it to 2 days sharks visit?
- I read many comments about different girls. But I'm not sure if I will recognize which girl is who? Is there any catalog in club, shows girls with name / pictures?
- 50 standard fee includes what? Any extra service between girl and me?
- Is there a train or bus from Darmstadt to Frankfurt at anytime or what time is the latest. I may consider, find a hotel nearby.
Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]I agree with Calboi69 2 days at Sharks. I did not rent a car, did public transportation purchased a day rail pass, very cheap, works as long as you monitor departure times I. E. Last train. I did some homework, read through the Sharks forum and created two lists of girls names & descriptions. One list for those I would like to see, second those to avoid. Course I ran into several not on my list I had a grand time with. Once there find a target you are attracted to & have a chat & a drink. I've found many times these informal connections are beneficial, sometimes you discover a drink is all you want, other times.
Hello everybody!
I'm long time following this forum and got really good advise back then.
I'm planning to visit Frankfurt at mid of November and have 2 days free to spend. I just have couple questions that couldn't find answer by reading here.
- My plan was to visit palace 1 day and sharks 1 day. But, as I see on palace section, there are so many negative comments about the place. Should I change it to 2 days sharks visit?
- I read many comments about different girls. But I'm not sure if I will recognize which girl is who?? Is there any catalog in club, shows girls with name / pictures?
- 50 standard fee includes what? Any extra service between girl and me?
- Is there a train or bus from Darmstadt to Frankfurt at anytime or what time is the latest. I may consider, find a hotel nearby.
Thanks you in advance.
[QUOTE=Takedown;1956686]Are there any American black girls at Sharks? And would they be offended if I called them African American? Or should I just call them black girls?[/QUOTE]9 from 10 Girls at Sharks you can call African girls, even if they claim to be from Jamaica, Barbados, London, Stockholm or Rome (Italy).
And be sure. You won't find any Girl from the Virgin Islands. LOL.
[QUOTE=Calboi69;1956623]If I were you, I would visit Sharks twice and skip Palace. A lot of those negative posts are true.
50 euros session means, 30 minutes for BBBJ, DATY, some kissing and normal sex. Depends on the girl, the intensity and the service provided varies.
Rent a car. It's better.
But really, you should spend some time and read the thread. Some reading will help you tremendously.
The girls will come to you to entice you for their services. When they come, they will tell you their names. Simply match the description written here with the names.[/QUOTE]Thank you for good advise, was really helpful. I think, I will rent a car and give quick look for Palace and Oase as well. I'm not really worried about expenses so, better to see different places for long term visit in the future.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1956782] for me better LU in Oase at this time than in Shark.[/QUOTE]LOL. We can all have opinions but this opinion can only be true if you are bias because you have favorites / regulars at a club.
It is bad advice to give to a first time visitor.
[QUOTE=Macty;1956908]Hello everybody!
I'm long time following this forum and got really good advise back then.
I'm planning to visit Frankfurt at mid of November and have 2 days free to spend. I just have couple questions that couldn't find answer by reading here.
- My plan was to visit palace 1 day and sharks 1 day. But, as I see on palace section, there are so many negative comments about the place. Should I change it to 2 days sharks visit?
- I read many comments about different girls. But I'm not sure if I will recognize which girl is who?? Is there any catalog in club, shows girls with name / pictures?
- 50 standard fee includes what? Any extra service between girl and me?
- Is there a train or bus from Darmstadt to Frankfurt at anytime or what time is the latest. I may consider, find a hotel nearby.
Thanks you in advance.[/QUOTE]If you don t know the FKK scene in Frankfurt I don t recommend you to stay only at Shark, for me you can forget Palace, don t hesitate to visit Oase (was there 3 times in the last days great great LU, the best I never saw) and World needs also to be consider. The entry fee doesn't include any action with the girls, minimum to spent in addition will be 50 euros for 30 minutes. Many trains are available.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1957035]If you don t know the FKK scene in Frankfurt I don t recommend you to stay only at Shark, for me you can forget Palace, don t hesitate to visit Oase (was there 3 times in the last days great great LU, the best I never saw) and World needs also to be consider. The entry fee doesn't include any action with the girls, minimum to spent in addition will be 50 euros for 30 minutes. Many trains are available.[/QUOTE]Just shows. We all have different views. I like Palace. I thought the line up a few weeks ago at Mainhattan was strong and I would recommend you try it. Didn't go to Oase but I think all the hype about Sharks is just that. About to post a report from tonight about Artemis (Berlin) where the LU is still (for me) stronger than Sharks. I nearly always find that although there are lots of girls at Sharks, to find some real gems is not that easy. My last 4 trips there have all been disappointing. If I were you, I'd definitely take advice to try other clubs. You should attend Sharks just to know what it's like. But don't go thinking it is so much better than the other Hessen clubs. It may have been once but I doubt it is currently.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;1957210]Just shows. We all have different views. I like Palace. I thought the line up a few weeks ago at Mainhattan was strong and I would recommend you try it. Didn't go to Oase but I think all the hype about Sharks is just that. About to post a report from tonight about Artemis (Berlin) where the LU is still (for me) stronger than Sharks. I nearly always find that although there are lots of girls at Sharks, to find some real gems is not that easy. My last 4 trips there have all been disappointing. If I were you, I'd definitely take advice to try other clubs. You should attend Sharks just to know what it's like. But don't go thinking it is so much better than the other Hessen clubs. It may have been once but I doubt it is currently.[/QUOTE]Mon / Tues / Thurs / and Sunday after 8 pm is nothing special at Sharks and probably on par with Oase and Palace for optics. On Wed Sharks is king and is a tier above other clubs on Friday and Saturdays. In addition, Shark's daytime lineup is better than all clubs outside of GoldenTime.
Yes try other clubs but don't kid yourselves. Sharks is currently on the rise again. Perhaps due to the "hype," half a dozen new girls show up at Sharks everyday. I can't say the same for other clubs but will admit I go to Sharks at a ratio of about 2:1 to other clubs so my sample size may be a factor in my assessment.
On the flip side, due to the influx of new girls, average service at Sharks is declining when you average these new girls. There is already too many girls compared to men causing some girls without a lot of regulars to leave.
Unless other clubs change their policies to make it more lax for girls to come and go on their own schedules, the trend of more girls trying out Sharks will only increase. The only negative that I often hear from girls (besides there being too many girls working) is that they complain that there is too much kissing for free from other girls. This is obviously a good thing for mongers.
I just hope the influx of new girls doesn't ruin the service quality of other girls.
Also, all of my assessments regarding Sharks is void if you don't like model types and prefer plump, curvy girls.
[QUOTE=Macty;1957018]Thank you for good advise, was really helpful. I think, I will rent a car and give quick look for Palace and Oase as well. I'm not really worried about expenses so, better to see different places for long term visit in the future.[/QUOTE]Do not answer "yes" when the girls ask you "first time? If you answered "yes", the girls begin to enter up selling mode.
[QUOTE=Takedown;1957215], due to the influx of new girls, average service at Sharks is declining when you average these new girls. [/QUOTE]Any of these new girls super hot like Karin or Kate / Alice?
BTW is Karin back yet?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1957282]Any of these new girls super hot like Karin or Kate / Alice?
BTW is Karin back yet?[/QUOTE]Depending on who you ask, you would get different answers. Both Alexia, Mandy, Sisi and Merci is new this year. Not completely new, but 2016 'new', and they all rate quite high with me. And along with Erica, Marlyn and Yvette rounds up my personal top list at the moment. So that is 4 out of 7. Good enough for me in terms of new talent. But when thinking like that I do have just as many favourites at Oceans though. If not more, yet the turnover is higher at Oceans, so a few might have left. So it is a draw for me. Oase too, although it is slightly behind on service, yet there are top performers there also like May, Vera, Denise etc. Sharks does have most kissing involved out of the 3 clubs in general, but trying new girls is a gamble as it seems they are either great in the room, or very poor. Like bottom of the scale poor in service. So it is more of an hourglass as opposed to some other clubs where most girls are in the middle in terms of kissing and passion... I have a feeling some of these new girls at Sharks who does poorly just go there because they get bad business at their former clubs. So they think that by going to a busier club like Sharks is these days, will still get them many rooms.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1957282]Any of these new girls super hot like Karin or Kate / Alice?
BTW is Karin back yet?[/QUOTE]No Karin, nor Domenika. Pol, nor Beatrice on this Monday. Some new girls, Megan has a new twin with beautiful tits, working on night team. Kate is off and will return at Globe for last tour on mid November.
My queen of kisses, sick this week end, so after sharing our small diseases, I went to Sharks to discover Lena. De, I excepted a German beauty, I saw Lena, she was booked from noon to 11 pm, but no regret. She seems friend with Stella who has real MILF look now, with hair like a cleaning woman, but was quite busy, so, many Sharks clients don t need kisses. I may be lucky my pretty face, always smiling, always laughing, lovely Romanian girl sweetly kiss me all along, even she couldn't breathe on this week end.
I was happy to see again always lovely Sandra. De, a real smiling angel. Many German girls, some black girls on this Monday. Ester also still lovely for behavior, Madalina and Patricia still smiling. Thanks to a ghost member for Anja, then she came only once. Even she is friendly with beautiful eyes and tits, I answered I couldn't have sex, I look for sweeter girls. My mind still at LR, but maybe when I woke up at night, I found a quite classy look girl, but it was too late for her for late night room and couldn't return on Tuesday, as she asked if I could, so will see when I will return. Between her, my little friend teddy bear and German pimp, have a very good reason to return at Sharks now.
For numerous Nobel awards, my writings about Turkish behavior, fast bang bang and not much respect, as say girls, I hope they are at least clever enough to understand there is nothing to do with Turkish people who are mainly courageous workers, mostly Muslims, quite different from tattooed, drinking all night guys in brothels, or tattooed, muscled, pimping German girls, I think they should be just a shame for real Muslims. But Bitumen was right even I don t know him, also German pimp at Sharks.
Sharks breakfast Salmon on this Monday was not so tasty than at World brunch, but times might have changed about girlfriend back at World, so easy to bullshit about others, better to have own experience to better understand things can change with prostitutes. Jealousy is far from cleverness.
Hello everyone!
I am planning a short layover at Darmstadt to revisit FKK Sharks and was wondering if I can find a place to stay for a few hours in late night / early morning.
Basically, I plan to arrive in the afternoon, have fun at the Sharks, and then catch the first train in the morning. The problem is, FKK Shark is supposed to close at 4:00 AM, while my train leaves at 7:00 AM. I don't feel like booking a hotel just to stay 3-4 hours, unless it's hourly hotel. I plan to visit within a month, so hanging out at the HBF freezing my balls off doesn't sound fun.
Can anyone recommend me a place to crash / relax / lounge around between 4:00 AM to 6:30 AM? I recall Darmstadt is a small European town where everything closes by evenings.
Thanks!
I know outdoor sex is possible at World and Oase, I'm talking about sex in full view of nature, not hidden in a tent or outbuilding. Is outdoor sex available at Sharks in their garden?
[QUOTE=NotSavvy;1957257]Do not answer "yes" when the girls ask you "first time? If you answered "yes", the girls begin to enter up selling mode.[/QUOTE]And this is true for any FKK and for any other brothel in general. You always have to convince the girls that you are as seasoned as they come.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1957472]I know outdoor sex is possible at World and Oase, I'm talking about sex in full view of nature, not hidden in a tent or outbuilding. Is outdoor sex available at Sharks in their garden?[/QUOTE]Sure. If you find a girl willing to have sex at 6 degrees Celsius.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1957498]Sure. If you find a girl willing to have sex at 6 degrees Celsius.
HB.[/QUOTE]I meant when the weather was warm. I've never been to sharks in the summer.
[QUOTE=Mander;1957421]Hello everyone!
I am planning a short layover at Darmstadt to revisit FKK Sharks and was wondering if I can find a place to stay for a few hours in late night / early morning.
Basically, I plan to arrive in the afternoon, have fun at the Sharks, and then catch the first train in the morning. The problem is, FKK Shark is supposed to close at 4:00 AM, while my train leaves at 7:00 AM. I don't feel like booking a hotel just to stay 3-4 hours, unless it's hourly hotel. I plan to visit within a month, so hanging out at the HBF freezing my balls off doesn't sound fun.
Can anyone recommend me a place to crash / relax / lounge around between 4:00 AM to 6:30 AM? I recall Darmstadt is a small European town where everything closes by evenings.
Thanks![/QUOTE]For such a helpful member with 11 questions in two years for recommendations and no feedback about your benefits it's a pleasure for me to give you a tip. Best place in Darmstadt at this time is in the middle of Luisenplatz around the tower Langer Ludwig. There you'll find even at this time enough entertainment, many celebrating people with party atmosphere.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1957324]I went to Sharks to discover Lena. De, I excepted a German beauty, I saw Lena, she was booked from noon to 11 pm, but no regret. She seems friend with Stella who has real MILF look now, with hair like a cleaning woman, but was quite busy, so, many Sharks clients don t need kisses. I may be lucky my pretty face, always smiling, always laughing, lovely Romanian girl sweetly kiss me all along, even she couldn't breathe on this week end......[/QUOTE]Ex-globe WG, Lena, De, 26 yo blonde, has been in Sharks for a while. To me, she is more beautiful than most of girls in the club, but most of mongers would not agree with me. At least, She is one of top girls whom provide fabulous services and GFE as well. She is also very compliant and allowed me to try some rare sex positions such as "face off" or "inverted 69" for oral.
Although there are a large number of mediocre girls with below average service at Sharks, I still consider it as one of two top clubs (the other is GT) among nation. There are more than 20 girls I'd like to repeat.
For young beauties, my list would be:
Helli, Anja, Steffi, Megan, Ariana, Rebecca, Tatiana, Mila, Nina, Melanie, Diana, Bianca, Lavinia, Sidonia, Sabina, Nicoletta, etc.
For GFE, my list would be:
Lena, Gloriana, Sandra, Vivian, etc.
There are a few girls I won't go with anymore, but recommend for other guys:
Dina, Roxana, Cosmina, Evita, Janine, etc.
[QUOTE=Mander;1957421]Hello everyone!
I am planning a short layover at Darmstadt to revisit FKK Sharks and was wondering if I can find a place to stay for a few hours in late night / early morning.
Basically, I plan to arrive in the afternoon, have fun at the Sharks, and then catch the first train in the morning. The problem is, FKK Shark is supposed to close at 4:00 AM, while my train leaves at 7:00 AM. I don't feel like booking a hotel just to stay 3-4 hours, unless it's hourly hotel. I plan to visit within a month, so hanging out at the HBF freezing my balls off doesn't sound fun.
Can anyone recommend me a place to crash / relax / lounge around between 4:00 AM to 6:30 AM? I recall Darmstadt is a small European town where everything closes by evenings.
Thanks![/QUOTE]Sharks closes at 5 am Thursday thru Saturday, if your layover is on these days then leaving at 5 am is the best option. If your layover is on a Wednesday you might consider FKK Oase since they close at 5 am. But the best option would be to rent a car for the layover, drive to the club and park at a rest stop until its time to drop off the car at the airport. You wouldn't even need to fill up the tank with gas on such a short trip.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1956205]Did I wrote I don't like German brothels I visit every week? [/QUOTE]Sorry for my 25 years ago learned english, did I write is better. WGs often say to me they are surprised a french guy is able to speak english, but I really enjoyed no speaking room with Mersi, only eyes, smiles and hands to communicate.
Jnp, do you know there is a German pimp at Sharks who doesn't want we write about WGs? Many girls who know me say to me how he is boring to go to them to bullshit, a poor fat belly claimed businessman who believes he can say to us what we have to think, but not clever enough to understand the meaning of the word freedom and can't compete with my behavior with girls. I don't remember Megan or Ariana or Aylice never asked me to stop to write, when they know my name on this forum and read what I write, they know I never write about rooms, that s my respect for my girls. After this Monday, funny would be to go to live at Sharks, working from Sharks, just between Dusseldorf and Zurich for week end. Instead of returning to Paris to meet my clients, I will invite them at Sharks for business meetings, a girl offered will help for negotiations.
I didn't say anything about Sharks casting quality on this Monday, because even was a day off for NRW and Stuttgart, but Monday or Tuesday are usually not best days for casting, why we are given 20 discount to attract us. Far from 100 girls even quantity never made quality, only 1 dreamed girl is enough for me. Megan was off, but will return. I didn't see Tatiana or Ariana, but they might be off also. I didn't see little Bulgarian princess, top GFE level Aylice, nor Anabel. Bu since this summer. Lovely Sandra said working only a few days now, when I stopped it was nothing about her, and I always thought I couldn't think never again.
Even fat belly German pimp doesn't agree, some girls seen on this Monday: MILF look Stella. De, I did regret not to have tried her at Palace on 10 May 2014 , before my discovery at World, because even really smiling on this Monday, it will really be difficult to try her now. Lena. De booked all day, Lara. De, other German girls, some black girls, Diana, her tits seems smaller than before? Naya. Ro, blond smiling Patricia, smiling Madalina, Melani showing me her tongue but in a friendly way, still lovely Ester, Greta, Brenda 90 E cup, Jellis, Steffi in a good business day, happy for her. Anja who did believe I couldn't have sex now, blond Bianka, Mandy. De. I was surprised to see some not really members, but more readers, because Evita was not there. Surprising, 1 was not at World with his GF, after claiming she loves him so much. Some new girls, 3 targets, when I will live at Sharks.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1957580]Sharks closes at 5 am Thursday thru Saturday, if your layover is on these days then leaving at 5 am is the best option. If your layover is on a Wednesday you might consider FKK Oase since they close at 5 am. But the best option would be to rent a car for the layover, drive to the club and park at a rest stop until its time to drop off the car at the airport. You wouldn't even need to fill up the tank with gas on such a short trip.[/QUOTE]I know Shark's website says that they close at 5 am but I was there 2 Thursdays ago and they definitely closed at 4 am. It might just depends on how busy it is on that Thursday, so be careful on those days, they don't always honor the 5 am closing time on Thursdays.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1957324]No Karin, nor Domenika. Pol, nor Beatrice on this Monday. Some new girls, Megan has a new twin with beautiful tits, working on night team. Kate is off and will return at Globe for last tour on mid November.
My queen of kisses, sick this week end, so after sharing our small diseases, I went to Sharks to discover Lena. De, I excepted a German beauty, I saw Lena, she was booked from noon to 11 pm, but no regret. She seems friend with Stella who has real MILF look now, with hair like a cleaning woman, but was quite busy, so, many Sharks clients don t need kisses. I may be lucky my pretty face, always smiling, always laughing, lovely Romanian girl sweetly kiss me all along, even she couldn't breathe on this week end.
I was happy to see again always lovely Sandra. De, a real smiling angel. Many German girls, some black girls on this Monday. Ester also still lovely for behavior, Madalina and Patricia still smiling. Thanks to a ghost member for Anja, then she came only once. Even she is friendly with beautiful eyes and tits, I answered I couldn't have sex, I look for sweeter girls. My mind still at LR, but maybe when I woke up at night, I found a quite classy look girl, but it was too late for her for late night room and couldn't return on Tuesday, as she asked if I could, so will see when I will return..[/QUOTE]Funny to read yours fuck trips.
Yes, jealousy of others, illusion of girl friend experience, pimped or not. Lot of theory and questions without answer. The motor of these place is: Money.
I know some girls from this club. I have some Facebook address. And I can see some profile of others girls because they are friends. Some of them have a boyfriend, the majority, not. With profile I know, never I will go with a girl who have a boyfriend.
I was in sharks yesterday. It was free day in some lands and in France, so I decided to go there. So boring, line up was poor. Maybe 50 girls but nothing special except Agnes, but I tried her many times and I was not motivated to go with she. Others girls was not pretty for me. Arrived at 5 pm to leave 9 pm without fuck.
The list of absence of regular girls is long for these two days: Janine, Mia, Helli, Eva, Dina, Nicoletta, Mersi, Evita, Cosmina, Roxsana etc. Monday is worse losing Megan.
Sandra, Anja, Steffi and Yvette were the stars of Monday. I think Yvette is a bit underrated in forum (or well hidden by her fans). Because it was almost impossible to find her free for two days.
I added a piece to the rising reputation of Steffi. I found a key to having one of the best services in Sharks from her, but not a key to open her heart LOL.
Winter is approaching, we see more activity in the garden where the toilets have not even been cleaned. Nevertheless, improving the club facilities continue, the novelty is an object shaped monkey that distributes throwing a banana in the restaurant. The girls seem to enjoy this.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1957605]Sandra, Anja, Steffi and Yvette were the stars of Monday. I think Yvette is a bit underrated in forum (or well hidden by her fans). Because it was almost impossible to find her free for two days.[/QUOTE]+1.
I don't really go with Yvette much anymore, but man, she is a doll. She's a sweet, party girl but with lots of spunk. She's always full smiles with her clients, likes to dance, drinks,. Just a fun girl all around.
I think she has been slow to build a clientele because she never approaches directly by herself. Also, I don't think she speaks German and has a hard time having a long conversation in English so that makes it hard for her to build lots of regulars.
I'm glad for her that she's finally getting some good feedback on this forum.
[QUOTE=PhoenixF;1957588]Some of them have a boyfriend, the majority, not.[/QUOTE]LOL. It is really hard to tell which girls have boyfriends and which doesn't. Some have sugar daddies they don't really consider boyfriends too. Some have pimps they don't consider boyfriends. Some are single and work there on their own. But according to some report I once read, that is just 20% who has neighter a BF / pimp or sugar daddy. But truth be told, if they have just sugar daddies or someone they would call a pimp, then they are never 100% committed. so there is that... but when it is a boyfriend it is tougher.
But no reason to respond to me as this has been discussed to death too many times.
Carpe Viam: Cannot underrate Yvette (even me and takedown agree on her, and that is rare). Top girl, and she has a great reputation and last I was at sharks (a Sunday also), she was the girl that got the most positive random comments pointed towards her from the local Germans resting/sleeping in the couch section. On the other hand, I feel some other girls are again and again overrated here on the forum. But each to their own. But maybe there is something to being silent on these girls if it leads to them being unreachable and booked all day then again, it does make them happy when they earn money. so less likely to leave to some other unknown location.
A few of the girls you mention never works Sundays/Mondays. Like Janine, Merci etc.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1957564]Ex-globe WG, Lena, De, 26 yo blonde, has been in Sharks for a while. To me, she is more beautiful than most of girls in the club, but most of mongers would not agree with me. At least, She is one of top girls whom provide fabulous services and GFE as well. She is also very compliant and allowed me to try some rare sex positions such as "face off" or "inverted 69" for oral.[/QUOTE]I was said so much about Lena, so after Saturday night and Sunday at my number 1 in Germany at the moment, LR, not for the club but for some high level girls there, even only 1 now because she doesn't want I go with others, same experience again, but I enjoy with her even when she is sick like this week end, so I decided on this Monday off in France to go to see Lena. Sharks is only a second choice for me now, after LR, World and Globe of course, but I was said she only works on weekdays. So many guys read me, go to my girls because they know what I look for with girls: natural beauty, sweetness, GF illusion in room, and they give me back information about some other girls and like to know my experiences with these girls. About Lena, can t say anything about her in room, but I like round shape and small face, she has large face. Megan is a pretty face for me, round, Russian type face with small nose. I could try Stella, 2 years and half later, but looks too old now, Marina. Lat is more fresh for look.
I remember you wrote you don't like to kiss girls, no GFE, meaning GF illusion, for me without fluent natural kissing, not Romanian kissing, nor robot tongue or dog kissing. At least I found my real GF illusion, if I didn't stop, she would kiss me all night, eyes in eyes. She is pretty and always smiling face and so funny to control how much I fill the condom, a real jealous Romanian girl but I love her at the moment, as long it will work. Even I didn't celebrate yet with Kate at Aca, 3 girls for more than 1 year meeting and Isabella / Larissa for 3 years soon.
I was going to write a detailed report of my visits to Sharks, but I ended up going there 5 times over my 8 night visit (wed, Fri., sun, Tues., wed) and the names and sessions have all been a blur. All I can say is that I agree with much / most that has been posted about the lineup of late. Lots of new faces and 'old' faces from other clubs. I ran into girls I had met previously at GT, Mainhattan, Oase, and even Artemis. I sessioned with a pretty even mix of old favorites and new (to me at least) faces. All told I did 17 rooms with 16 different girls (last room was a two girl session with 2 girls I had been with on prior days).
As mentioned, the increase in the lineup has caused some girls some stress; many girls mentioned that there are too many girls and that their business with regulars is down since they are trying out new girls. Overall, I had very good service, little to no upsell (only a couple of occasions for CIM), and a great time.
Sorry for lack of more details. Ie names, etc. My memory for names is bad.
[QUOTE=PhoenixF;1957588]Funny to read yours fuck trips.
Yes, jealousy of others, illusion of girl friend experience, pimped or not. Lot of theory and questions without answer. The motor of these place is: Money.
I know some girls from this club. I have some Facebook address. And I can see some profile of others girls because they are friends. Some of them have a boyfriend, the majority, not. With profile I know, never I will go with a girl who have a boyfriend.
I was in sharks yesterday. It was free day in some lands and in France, so I decided to go there. So boring, line up was poor. Maybe 50 girls but nothing special except Agnes, but I tried her many times and I was not motivated to go with she. Others girls was not pretty for me. Arrived at 5 pm to leave 9 pm without fuck.[/QUOTE]I always say to girls they have to be proud for their origins. Even they were unlucky to be born in poor country and need money, I wish them money they hardly make is only for them and child, they have to be sure fat belly guys are just lucky, even paying, to touch them.
I m also proud of kind of guy I am, with women or for my job.
In my words and in french law, a BF who knows his GF is working as prostitute, is named a pimp. I don t know about the German guy, he just behave in that way with girls who are bored about him at Sharks. Girls just want to make money. I would never accept my GF to be fucked by other guys, even I would be crazy in love for her, it would be too painful, I would prefer to leave, I don t need money from a girl, I work to make as much money I need.
You should know what are worst and best casting days at Sharks, Tuesday may be the worst. I don't judge on a Monday casting, I think it wouldn't be fair, but even Agnes was not there on Monday, I noticed 3 new quite attractive girls, 1 with model look, Megan twin. My main target said she would come on Tuesday, but in France it was cemetery day. For my third FKK day, I was not so hungry and really did need a spark to run. I ate, slept, played with my pink teddy bea, about a new girl mostly making 30 mn rooms or 45 mn? I didn't know there is a rate at Sharks for 45 mn room? Maybe 75 ? Like at Magnum?
But I will return to work at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1957583]I know Shark's website says that they close at 5 am but I was there 2 Thursdays ago and they definitely closed at 4 am. It might just depends on how busy it is on that Thursday, so be careful on those days, they don't always honor the 5 am closing time on Thursdays.[/QUOTE]I think it s a mistake on website because each time I visited on Thursday night, it closed at 4 am. Only Friday and Saturday nights until 5 am, but not many attractive girls after 1 or 2 am.
[QUOTE=PhoenixF;1957588] have some Facebook address. And I can see some profile of others girls because they are friends. Some of them have a boyfriend, the majority, not. With profile I know, never I will go with a girl who have a boyfriend.[/QUOTE]Not having the boyfriend's pictures on Facebook doesn't mean there isn't a boyfriend. Why wouldn't you go with a girl who has a BF?
HB.
I forgot to mention Ariana among busy girls. She had a long session and was in a room long time. I just have a few minutes of conversation with my friend who knows well all girls of club, in the night I crossed with her twice in the hall of upstairs.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1878389]She is a very friendly and very funny girl in the room. Also she is an good pole dancer of club. She accepted everything with joy, but she said she hates to be licked all over her body. This is normal because the shower after the room becomes very long for her LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1957564]Ex-globe WG, Lena, De, 26 yo blonde, has been in Sharks for a while. To me, she is more beautiful than most of girls in the club, but most of mongers would not agree with me. At least, She is one of top girls whom provide fabulous services and GFE as well. She is also very compliant and allowed me to try some rare sex positions such as "face off" or "inverted 69" for oral.[/QUOTE]I saw her when she just arrived at Sharks this summer and I was immediately captivated by her beauty. As she does not Paint the plaster on her face like a porn star, the guy who does not like a natural girl, do not give a good rating for her beauty. Anyway, I agree that she is one of the finest of Sharks and I wonder now if there is a lot of beautiful girls as Leina in Globe, if that's the case I'll buy a ticket immediately LOL.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1920944]I forgot to mention the new arrival of Monday: A beautiful natural blonde called Leina. She is Polish-German and arrived from a club of Switzerland. Despite her superb natural face and body, she is middle 20. She listens well into the couch and performs well in the room. It is normal that she has not had time to warm her chair for her first day. She starts early and leave until 11 pm.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pistons;1957707]Carpe Viam: Cannot underrate Yvette (even me and takedown agree on her, and that is rare). Top girl, and she has a great reputation and last I was at sharks (a sunday also), she was the girl that got the most positive random comments pointed towards her from the local germans resting/sleeping in the couch section. On the other hand, I feel some other girls are again and again overrated here on the forum. But each to their own... But maybe there is something to being silent on these girls if it leads to them being unreachable and booked all day... then again, it does make them happy when they earn money. so less likely to leave to some other unknown location...
A few of the girls you mention never works sundays/mondays. Like Janine, Merci etc..[/QUOTE]Her face and voice were not particularly my taste. But her character is very attractive and her performance is excellent. I do not know her evaluation in other forums, but I find the discussion about Yvette is very limited in ISG. But as I could not find her free time during my stay, it is not necessary to discuss about her, because clever customers know already well Yvette!
Yes, some girls do not work at Monday. We do not find many girls on Monday and most of them look boring because of lack of work. Smart girls use this empty time to build a good relationship with their favorite clients (regular or not) staying beside him for free. Through this initiative, I spent a good Monday with a beautiful girl who will become part of my favorites (it means I was caught in her strategy).
I've had a girl on facebook that one day updated her profile with having a boyfriend, and the next day removing it again alongside deleting me as a friend. Lots of girls know that some of us have their facebook accounts or real names, so they hide it there. But I know two girls that are married with kids and where their facebook picture has had them wrapped around the neck of their husband. Those two girls both do great service guess they have bills to pay.
And think of it like James Bond: "It is more fun when they are married" lol. At least it doesn't rule them out in my book even if I agree it is better when they are all single. But I also don't trust them unless it is absolutely clear and I would meet them outside the club without paying. Which hardly happens much and actually only with one fkk girl so far one I bailed out on also that could have been true.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1957776]Not having the boyfriend's pictures on Facebook doesn't mean there isn't a boyfriend. Why wouldn't you go with a girl who has a BF?
HB.[/QUOTE]Because I refuse to give money for a girl who will give to her BF. Also, girls with BF will simulate and will not take pleasure with her client.
I had very good surprises with girls who are single.
Recently back in Germany but never in the North. Big fan of FKK Colosseum and Hawaii down South. Based on reviews spent time at Sharks and World, comments on World in World thread.
Frankly, I will not come back to Sharks. Was not there two minutes (entered noon) before being intercepted, had a conversation and was immediately told "to get what you want you will need to do an hour"! What did I want? Just a little DATY if you please followed by a nice HJ-69. Was told this was the "system" at Sharks and all girls followed it. Eventually went into session with the older one with big boobs and was immediately up-sold once in the room. WTF?
Big turn off: The smoke! Only way to get away from it is to go outside!
Thinking maybe I just better cut the losses and head back to World.
OK, maybe get something to eat. Enter into buffet area and two dark skinned cuties sitting and enjoying lunch. Get some food, looking for salt, "Hey Mister" one of the dark skinned cuties holds up a salt shaker! Quick conversation, found out she is from Dominican Republic, made agreement to talk later after her appointments.
Spent some time in the wellness area waiting for her and constantly being pestered by many ladies. Maybe the "no" is the "no" I gave you five minutes ago!
Miss Dominican finally becomes available and head up to cabana style room in whirlpool area and spent the next hour in total bliss. Just an amazing lady and every bit as great as the awesome Adele at Colosseum. For those of you whom know Miss Dominican you know that she only works at Sharks just a couple of days a week and has a very well established full time career. She is not tall, long hair, and has a bottom that you would like to use as a pillow and plant many kisses on!
I have to agree that there were way too many girls working at Sharks. At 5 PM on a weeknight there were actually more girls on the floor than guys and most of the guys were just mongering. No wonder so many of the girls look unhappy!
The final straw: Last session in the sauna before leaving, one of the most active pesters actually comes in to the sauna and bitches at me for having a session with Miss Dominican!
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1957776]Not having the boyfriend's pictures on Facebook doesn't mean there isn't a boyfriend. Why wouldn't you go with a girl who has a BF?
HB.[/QUOTE]Yeh, the girl may well be ready to leave her boyfriend and looking for a new better model. Looking for a guy that really cares about her. LOL.
Probably most guys on here have a wife or GF, so why should we be a hypocrite? Some of the girls have kids too. Many of the customers have kids too.
I don't think of James Bond, but I would rather be a girl's 2nd BF than her 1st BF, given that she has more than one.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1957530]For such a helpful member with 11 questions in two years for recommendations and no feedback about your benefits it's a pleasure for me to give you a tip.[/QUOTE]On the other hand, when you try to share information after visiting clubs, on this forum, then you get bullshiting about you, even I never saw them in room with me. Just poor jealous guys. So, I prefer not to name anymore my top girls, except at Globe because they can't compete for Kate or Isabella.
[QUOTE=PhoenixF;1957588]Yes, jealousy of others, illusion of girl friend experience, pimped or not. Lot of theory and questions without answer. The motor of these place is: Money...[/QUOTE]It's true that jealousy is fierce here. Last Monday, one of most beautiful girl of the day came to me and stayed a while on my knee with full of kisses. Jealousy does not disappear in this forum.
[QUOTE=PhoenixF;1957814]Because I refuse to give money for a girl who will give to her BF. Also, girls with BF will simulate and will not take pleasure with her client.
I had very good surprises with girls who are single.[/QUOTE]We should not dream too much, each girl has 10 customer per day, 20 days at least every month, just make the calculation, not sure that most of them are not simulating a little bit.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1957865]On the other hand, when you try to share information after visiting clubs, on this forum, then you get bullshiting about you, even I never saw them in room with me. Just poor jealous guys. So, I prefer not to name anymore my top girls, except at Globe because they can't compete for Kate or Isabella.[/QUOTE]Before cut which change the meaning, I wrote some bullshit specialists guys at Sharks, not in other clubs fortunately, but just for these guys, I decided to return often at Sharks, if they want to hide under the bed to really know what they are talking about.
[QUOTE=PhoenixF;1957814]Because I refuse to give money for a girl who will give to her BF. Also, girls with BF will simulate and will not take pleasure with her client.
I had very good surprises with girls who are single.[/QUOTE]I'm quite sad for pimped girls because they won't get much money from this bad job, but I enjoy to think about BF / pimp when I fuck the girl, even better for brain if she is married, I got one married and she is very good GFE level, ex World star.
[QUOTE=PhoenixF;1957814]Because I refuse to give money for a girl who will give to her BF. Also, girls with BF will simulate and will not take pleasure with her client.
I had very good surprises with girls who are single.[/QUOTE]A wild guess: Most girls who told you are single and had that much pleasure with you have a BF and we're faking.
HB.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1957881]It's true that jealousy is fierce here. Last Monday, one of most beautiful girl of the day came to me and stayed a while on my knee with full of kisses. Jealousy does not disappear in this forum.[/QUOTE]It's true that jealousy is fierce here. Last Monday, one of most beautiful girl of the day came to me and stayed a while on my knee with full of kisses. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]
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I'll throw in my opinion since I like this topic.
I personally like it when a 18-22 prostitute tells me she is single. Even if it's an illusion, it feels better to think that they are horny little nymphos that want to get fucked my older men. She can't find satisfaction from little boys her age and need to find pleasure at a FKK with older men. I find that to be very satisfying.
On the older prostitutes (24+), I enjoy it more if they have a BF or husband. The thrill to fuck someone's wife is euphoric. To think of their worthless husbands so desperate for money that they are willing to sell their only possession in their pitiful life for money. Feels especially good to CIM knowing they will DFK their husband at the end of their day.
End of the day they are just prostitutes to fulfill which ever fantasy you have at the moment. To each their own. Sharks has many girls to fulfill any fantasy.
It seems that many posts marked as antagonistic are only applied to certain members but some blatantly pointless and definitely antagonistic posts by certain privileged members remain. I wonder why.
[QUOTE=Takedown;1958502]It seems that many posts marked as antagonistic are only applied to certain members but some blatantly pointless and definitely antagonistic posts by certain privileged members remain. I wonder why.[/QUOTE]Like a rigged US election? LOL.
Jet lag and body in another time zone so limited sessions were possible.
Saw Ruby, Cosmina, Senna, Agnes, Sacha, Rebecca with Yelis, Hanna (Rom), but sucked in by the beauty of Nastia. Had to try. Did not expect too much. Was not fooled either. Weak for BJ, lacking GFE, no repeat.
Later went to Senna (Turkish / German) for reliable GFE, from a girl who appears to like sex.
Rain check for a few other girls. Just too tired.
Line up overall very good but Nastia the only absolute stunner to my taste.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1958044]A wild guess: Most girls who told you are single and had that much pleasure with you have a BF and we're faking.
HB.[/QUOTE]Like the girl who repeatedly tells me she has no man, boyfriend, agent, assistant, or car, has just sent me a photo of her astride the bonnet of a very upmarket car. :)
[QUOTE=Takedown;1958502]It seems that many posts marked as antagonistic are only applied to certain members but some blatantly pointless and definitely antagonistic posts by certain privileged members remain. I wonder why.[/QUOTE]I'm glad there is some limited moderation of the forum. Like referees and High Court judges, moderators always get criticised.
Hi folks,
I was planning to fly to Munich in the last week of December and wanted to go to Sharks and a few other clubs in Germany and Zurich maybe. This will be my first time mongering as well, I read the LU is pretty bad during that time as most of the girls are out for vacation.
My question though is that will it be so bad that I am better off not flying all the way there? I did email Sharks and they said they are open 365 days. Any other clubs that are good during this time of the year?
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1957862]Yeh, the girl may well be ready to leave her boyfriend and looking for a new better model. Looking for a guy that really cares about her. LOL.
Probably most guys on here have a wife or GF, so why should we be a hypocrite? Some of the girls have kids too. Many of the customers have kids too. [/QUOTE]Perfect summary Syzygies. I always tell the girls I am married. Doesn't stop some of them pushing their luck in the "send me money" game LOL.
If a girl has BF, so what. Maybe they are happy together.
[QUOTE=Spartacus665;1958702]Hi folks,
I was planning to fly to Munich in the last week of December and wanted to go to Sharks and a few other clubs in Germany and Zurich maybe. This will be my first time mongering as well, I read the LU is pretty bad during that time as most of the girls are out for vacation.
My question though is that will it be so bad that I am better off not flying all the way there? I did email Sharks and they said they are open 365 days. Any other clubs that are good during this time of the year?[/QUOTE]Of course they are open, there business is to make you come and pay the entry fee. LU is usually poor but you never know, just a example 2 years ago I visited World during last week of December and had a session with one girl who told me she has pain in her mouth because she sucked too much too many customers and not enough girls.
[QUOTE=Spartacus665;1958702]Hi folks,
I was planning to fly to Munich in the last week of December and wanted to go to Sharks and a few other clubs in Germany and Zurich maybe. This will be my first time mongering as well, I read the LU is pretty bad during that time as most of the girls are out for vacation.
My question though is that will it be so bad that I am better off not flying all the way there? I did email Sharks and they said they are open 365 days. Any other clubs that are good during this time of the year?[/QUOTE]Of course they are open, there business is to make you come and pay the entry fee. LU is usually poor but you never know, just a example 2 years ago I visited World during last week of December and had a session with one girl who told me she has pain in her mouth because she sucked too much too many customers and not enough girls.
Made a quick visit last weekend to Sharks. I came back from the previous weekend only because I knew Tatiana will leave for school and I won't be seeing her for a while. Siri, in case you don't remember it was me who stopped by and said Hi to you.
I didn't try anyone new, only my usual regulars.
[B]Tatiana[/B] (one of) my favorite girl now. I regret not spending more time with her. She is smart, funny, and great in the room. I find her pretty. I'm surprise that she is not too busy at Sharks. She's back to school now in Romania.
[B]Steffi[/B] I always have a great time with her. She provides great service. She knew that I don't like the smoke and would go to the toilet to smoke during our room. She actually got a little jealous that I spent more time with Tatiana. I tried to encourage her to start walking around or approaching customer but she declined and said it's better for her this way. I feel bad for her that she doesn't get much business. She will go home in mid December and said that if things don't improve when she comes back she may move to another club.
[B]Megan[/B] I wish more girls are cool like her. No pressure about going to the room. No jealousy, asking for gift, etc. We are good friends now. She even said that sometimes it feels weird for her to have sex with a customer who she is good friend with. She has to close her eyes and pretend, LOL. I was too tired and didn't have a session with her. We only talk for a while.
[B]Everlina[/B] 21, tall, skinny brunette, be, ROM, I'm also surprise that she doesn't get much business. She is excellent in the room and I would highly recommend her.
As some people stated, I didn't see Helli, Roxanna, Cosmina, and Evita over the weekend.
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;1958841]s.
[B]Tatiana[/B] (one of) my favorite girl now.
[B]Steffi[/B] I always have a great time with her. She provides great service.
[B]Megan[/B] I wish more girls are cool like her.
[B]Everlina[/B] 21, tall, skinny brunette, be, ROM, I'm also surprise that she doesn't get much business. She is excellent in the room and I would highly recommend her.
As some people stated, I didn't see Helli, Roxanna, Cosmina, and Evita over the weekend.[/QUOTE]Although I'm not regular to Sharks, but I have visited many times, and I will have a visit next month.
I hope I will recognize these popular forum girls.
I have seen Mia, Madalina, Raluca, Maria, Ester, Janine and of course +70 yrs "Silvana".
My favorite from last visit was Melanie.
Hope to see some members on my next visit to guide me.
Could you please tell me the time for day shift and night shift for Sharks?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1957996]I'm quite sad for pimped girls because they won't get much money from this bad job, but I enjoy to think about BF / pimp when I fuck the girl, even better for brain if she is married, I got one married and she is very good GFE level, ex World star.[/QUOTE]Hmmm you like to fantasize about men dicks when you're having sex, naughty boy.
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;1958841]Made a quick visit last weekend to Sharks. I came back from the previous weekend only because I knew Tatiana will leave for school and I won't be seeing her for a while. Siri, in case you don't remember it was me who stopped by and said Hi to you.
[B]Tatiana[/B] (one of) my favorite girl now. I regret not spending more time with her. She is smart, funny, and great in the room. I find her pretty. I'm surprise that she is not too busy at Sharks. She's back to school now in Romania.
, I didn't see Helli, Roxanna, Cosmina, and Evita over the weekend.[/QUOTE]Tatiana was at work on Thursday at least. When did she go back to school?
Helli was no around. Cosmina is back since Friday. Evita is still in Romania. Megan is still here. Even Siri.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1958984]Tatiana was at work on Thursday at least. When did she go back to school?
Helli was no around. Cosmina is back since Friday. Evita is still in Romania. Megan is still here. Even Siri.[/QUOTE]She told me she was going home on Wed. She was there on Thu, Nov 3rd? I wish I knew.
Megan went back home on Monday and said she would be back on Thu.
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;1958999]She told me she was going home on Wed. She was there on Thu, Nov 3rd? I wish I knew.
Megan went back home on Monday and said she would be back on Thu.[/QUOTE]I recall Tatiana on Thurs since she was right in front of me wanting my attention but was not 100% sure on Friday as there was claimed over 200 girls by some girls was working. Before anyone starts I am just passing on the claims of what girls are saying. The question was asked at Reception and the reply was over 200 girls registered to work that day was the answer.To me there was well over 100 girls there and maybe close to 150 girls at peak time. The club was mad and hard to spot anyone. I mean I saw groups of girls coming in new at 8 pm starting work and I have never seen them before. One friend said he saw Tatiana on Friday.
Megan is back yes.
You say Hi to Siri like I do as well. Nice.
I didn't want to judge big Sharks on a Monday, so back on this Saturday to see the real casting at the moment, after one more dreamed night at LR.
No Domenika. Pol, nor Karin. Last time for Karin was on April. No Beatrice ex Oase, nor Aurelia. Ilka left since a while. No Kate of course.
Hungarian girls were missing and small, pretty Mersi may not return. Pretty new fresh girls don't stay.
Girls missing: Helli, Sandra who works only a few days, Lena. De working on weekdays, Marina. Lat, Evita, no blond Ariana also not seen on Monday, but a brunette Ariana now? No Aylice. Bu, not seen since a while, nor Anabel. Bu. No Madalina on this Saturday, but seen on Monday.
Some girls seen: Sylvana. It, smiling Stella. De starting early, Pia. De, Lara. De, Ester, Karin, Cosmina, Roxana, Agnes. Pol, blond Patricia, model body Nastia with beautiful tits, friendly Anja, Melani not anymore with white snow look, Ivy, Brenda / Leya 90 E cup, Jellis, Elisabet. Ro, Ameli. Ro. Of course, always smiling and friendly Megan, thanks for our more than 1 year, maybe elsewhere.
For French guys, if I really lived in Switzerland around Zurich, first I will go to ski in Wengen every Winter week ends as long I m able to walk, to stay fit, and will go to Globe or Bumsalp, no reason to drive not so good on border, 300 kms to Sharks through Stuttgart. Easier to drive from Basel.
Nobody will never say to me what to think or to do, nothing more important than freedom for me, even in brothels, if my words were not the best because usually I respect people in countries I visit, but I hate some kind of guys behavior and will never accept such behavior. If Sharks was my best club from April 2015 to April 2016 , I can just agree with the manager, when don't like anymore, better not to visit anymore. Plenty of other brothels to enjoy beautiful girls and repeat best girls weekly, as always. I will never change my way of behavior.
Good things at Sharks are salmon, melon, I loved wood chalets built outside, amazing time with Roberta. Ro who didn't stay unfortunately. To play with my little friend. 2 new jacuzzi upstairs. New rooms to come in future. At least, management try to improve club services.
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;1958999]She told me she was going home on Wed. She was there on Thu, Nov 3rd? I wish I knew.
Megan went back home on Monday and said she would be back on Thu.[/QUOTE]Megan came back as said. Didn't see Tatiana on Monday, nor yesterday, but not my target, even smiling girl.
Sorry for Monday but I was a bit tired after 2 LR nights. Steffi didn't seem so lucky for business yesterday than on Monday.
After starting my day with Megan as always, but it was really too early for me yesterday after my night, couldn't find any other dreamed look girl even Agnes was pretty, so, a real boring Saturday even I met the manager who was said about my writings on internet. He should know if I didn't work to make my own money, I couldn't pay all my entries since beginning of 2014, often weekly, sometimes twice in week end, and all girls met, we all have our business, for real or just lies. But when you don't need to sleep, then you have more time than others, for your life.
Roxanna is back.
HB.
I hear a rumour that Blonde bombshell Pamela of Serbia has returned. Can anyone confirm?
Is Aylice at Sharks any longer? What about Serb Milana?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=MrHo;1958918]Could you please tell me the time for day shift and night shift for Sharks?[/QUOTE]No scheduled shifts at Sharks. Girls come and go as the please. Only stipulation is that if they show up after 8 pm, they have to stay until close.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1959071]I hear a rumour that Blonde bombshell Pamela of Serbia has returned. Can anyone confirm?[/QUOTE]Whoops, should have been Croatia I think.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1959071]I hear a rumour that Blonde bombshell Pamela of Serbia has returned. Can anyone confirm?[/QUOTE]Pamela, slim blond with silicon and tattoos on ass, about 1,70 , tanned skin, was at Sharks yesterday. She seems to propose full services.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1959071]I hear a rumour that Blonde bombshell Pamela of Serbia has returned. Can anyone confirm?[/QUOTE]Nix to Pamela from Croatia. Not seen in the last days in this club. Well, at least by me.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1959037]Roxanna is back.
HB.[/QUOTE]With her hair in long curls so you nay to look twice to recognise her or take note of the silicone boobs.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1959137]Pamela, slim blond with silicon and tattoos on ass, about 1,70 , tanned skin, was at Sharks yesterday. She seems to propose full services.[/QUOTE]Ok False alarm.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1959099]Is Aylice at Sharks any longer? What about Serb Milana?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Didn't see Aylice. Bu since Summer, nor Anabel. Bu. Milana. Srb was not there on Monday nor Saturday.
Some more girls on this Saturday: Alice Marilyn look, Roxana silicon, reddish hair Maria ex Royal, smiling Cena but too many tattoos, blond Mila, brunette Monika, Steffi. Ro, blond silicon tattooed Pamela.
Maybe about 80 girls for about 35 rooms.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1957581]Sorry for my 25 years ago learned english, did I write is better. WGs often say to me they are surprised a french guy is able to speak english, but I really enjoyed no speaking room with Mersi, only eyes, smiles and hands to communicate.
Jnp, do you know there is a German pimp at Sharks who doesn't want we write about WGs? Many girls who know me say to me how he is boring to go to them to bullshit, a poor fat belly claimed businessman who believes he can say to us what we have to think, but not clever enough to understand the meaning of the word freedom and can't compete with my behavior with girls. I don't remember Megan or Ariana or Aylice never asked me to stop to write, when they know my name on this forum and read what I write, they know I never write about rooms, that s my respect for my girls. After this Monday, funny would be to go to live at Sharks, working from Sharks, just between Dusseldorf and Zurich for week end. Instead of returning to Paris to meet my clients, I will invite them at Sharks for business meetings, a girl offered will help for negotiations.
.[/QUOTE]Stella is terrible, Palace prices and service at Sharks. She should be sent back to Palace, but these days Sharks will take any piece of ass that can pay entry. Lena, sweet and fair with prices, but far from being a top performer although solid session. I would still recommend Lena for a day with nothing much to do. World was very kind to me recently as were other clubs.
Maybe I'll trust Siri and see what's up at LR this weekend.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1959005]Hungarian girls were missing and small, pretty Mersi may not return. Pretty new fresh girls don't stay...[/QUOTE]I am sure she is going to retire from the FKK business soon after almost four years working in Sharks or other FKK clubs. She had brought so much fantasies to her thousands of customers. I assume we all would miss her. She just celebrated her 27th (birthday a few days ago. She will run some descent business, such as a beauty salon, or even a psychological consulting clinic in Budapest area.
I was in Budapest last week. I was working with a German real estate agent to try to buy a condominiums there. Houses there are very affordable. You could find a decent flat in good location within 100 k euros.
These days, many Germans or French move to Hungary. The main reason might be that western Europeans do not want to live in fear surrounded by radical Muslims in their own countries, and Hungary can offer them a secure environment.
I think I would date a young Hungarian girl, of course not a WG, after I buy a flat there.
Hi,
I will be in a business trip at Frankfurt in mid to the end of November and I have a number of questions / clarifications and I will be happy for your assistance:
Do you recommend to be at the club on Sunday morning or med of the week or Friday ahead of the weekend?
I read many of the experiences in the club were of FFM, but whether someone went to MMF with other visitor in the club (Straight) ? And whether all the girls are ready to CIM?
I also saw the club advertises that has S&M room Is this an extra charge or additional charge to the girl? Any recommendation for girls for that action?
Would love to hear your opinion?
I will report once I will be there.
Thanks,
RU.
I was told that blonde Ariana was kicked out by the boss after contesting of a customer who is not the first customer did it.
Sharks still remain a must among the FKK of the Frankfurt area.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1959271]Stella is terrible, Palace prices and service at Sharks. She should be sent back to Palace, but these days Sharks will take any piece of ass that can pay entry. Lena, sweet and fair with prices, but far from being a top performer although solid session. I would still recommend Lena for a day with nothing much to do. World was very kind to me recently as were other clubs.
Maybe I'll trust Siri and see what's up at LR this weekend.[/QUOTE]You tried Stella. De at Sharks? On Monday and Saturday, she was smiling, but looks too old and not slim enough now. She was quite busy on Monday, so she seems OK for some guys, maybe because she is German. Some guys don t seem into kissing or foreplay, but just suck and fuck sex.
Lena was booked all Monday by one guy, so he should have enjoyed for 11 hours. Maybe also because German. Not the prettiest at Sharks for me. She can't compete with Nea World for face and smile, for me. Californian look, Nea came to me on this Saturday, smiling, making a kiss. She was friend with Madi before she retired and with Anjelina this Summer, so she knows about my behavior and my writings, but she came smiling. I was very happy for her she got business on this time at Sharks, this is much better for her than being exhausted like I saw her many times at World, having to wait until 5 am in an empty World. Even I never repeated, but for her smile, I wish her the best at Sharks.
5 and 6 November 2016.
The number of girls is very important now: I heard this from 100 to 200 (from girls). I counted 90 girls except girls in rooms (also in waiting the rooms and in locker room) at 23 h on Saturday night. The huge atmosphere.
Alert: a small beautiful Roman coming from Oase 4 days ago, claiming to be a Russian, is to be avoided if you want at least a normal service in the room.
A top girl told me that on Saturday she had 6 rooms of 1 h to 2 h (with tips) and only 1 room for 30 minutes, however, on Sunday she had only 3 rooms 30 minutes before 0 h. This explains why some girls avoid working on Sunday, even the number of customers is important in the day?
Regarding the girls, I was told Helli retired (can anyone confirm?.) Ariana was kicked out after a dispute with a client (this was not the first time for her, of course).
[QUOTE=Danny227;1959271]Stella is terrible, Palace prices and service at Sharks. She should be sent back to Palace, [/QUOTE]She is back to Palace since over a week.
HB.
[QUOTE=Alonreu;1959297]Hi,
I will be in a business trip at Frankfurt in mid to the end of November and I have a number of questions / clarifications and I will be happy for your assistance:
Do you recommend to be at the club on Sunday morning or med of the week or Friday ahead of the weekend?
I read many of the experiences in the club were of FFM, but whether someone went to MMF with other visitor in the club (Straight) ? And whether all the girls are ready to CIM?
I also saw the club advertises that has S&M room Is this an extra charge or additional charge to the girl? Any recommendation for girls for that action?
Would love to hear your opinion?
I will report once I will be there.
Thanks,
RU.[/QUOTE]It depends what you are looking for, if you visit the big clubs in Frankfurt there will be always enough girls for you at any time of the day and night but if you are looking for the global atmosphere (what I don t do), want to have drinks, seat around etc. It will be better to visit in the evening or week-end. Personally I am visiting the FKK scene for more than 15 years, mainly at day time and without alcohol to really enjoy the action with the girls, I never met a girl who refused CIM most probably they will all try to convince you to do it (50 euros more in their pockets), anal is also more and more proposed by the girls (70% at least). S&M yes they have a room but never tried and for this kind of things you have specific clubs and escorts, could be better.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1959479]She is back to Palace since over a week.
HB.[/QUOTE]She was at Sharks on Monday and this Saturday with her tattooed arm. Smiling behavior, sitting close to kino. Not so pretty than on May 2014.
Sorry to ask, but now for Sharks.
Could you please tell me the time for day shift and night shift for Sharks?
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1959366]I was told that blonde Ariana was kicked out by the boss after contesting of a customer who is not the first customer did it.[/QUOTE]Earlier this year, in summer, Ariana came to me and kissed me on the lips when I was chatting with another girl. That girl was furious, shouted at Ariana, and later went to complain to management. She told me that she had seen Ariana do this to other girls and their customers, but this was the first time it was done to her and she would not tolerate it.
I guess Ariana has now done it once too often. Tatiana will be lonely without her!
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1959263]Didn't see Aylice. Bu since Summer, nor Anabel. Bu. Milana. Srb was not there on Monday nor Saturday.
Some more girls on this Saturday: Alice Marilyn look, Roxana silicon, reddish hair Maria ex Royal, smiling Cena but too many tattoos, blond Mila, brunette Monika, Steffi. Ro, blond silicon tattooed Pamela.
Maybe about 80 girls for about 35 rooms.[/QUOTE]Its too bad Aylice has been away for a while. Lets wish her well if she left this industry permanently.
Thanks Siri, once again you are very helpful!
At least Tatiana is around on a regular basis, apparently.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;1959522]
I guess Ariana has now done it once too often. Tatiana will be lonely without her![/QUOTE]You may need to check with Badinsweet who says Tatiana is back in Romania attending school learning to become a professional. If this corect then she was always going to be lonely.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1959469]5 and 6 November 2016.
Regarding the girls, I was told Helli retired (can anyone confirm?.) Ariana was kicked out after a dispute with a client (this was not the first time for her, of course).[/QUOTE]I think Helli is just taking a long vacation at this time. She will be back. After all, she is in her golden age (21 yo) for FKK business, which was highly lucrative For her in the past two years. However she had spent much of money for herself and her family as she told me last time when we were in room. And she has not clear future plan for herself. So I assume that she still need to make money form this business at least awhile.
About Ariana, I sympathize with her situation. Life is tough for a single mother. She is just 20 yo. I know she is trying to make money to give her baby daughter a safe net and good future.
I am sure that the Hungarian Dina will retire in the near future.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1959492]She was at Sharks on Monday and this Saturday with her tattooed arm. Smiling behavior, sitting close to kino. Not so pretty than on May 2014.[/QUOTE]German Stella? That is bullshit. Stella was at Palace on Monday 10/31 and Tuesday 11/01. 100%.
HB.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1959607]I am sure that the Hungarian Dina will retire in the near future.[/QUOTE]Your Dina fixation really is quite strange.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1959607]I think Helli is just taking a long vacation at this time. She will be back. After all, she is in her golden age (21 yo) for FKK business, which was highly lucrative For her in the past two years. However she had spent much of money for herself and her family as she told me last time when we were in room. And she has not clear future plan for herself. So I assume that she still need to make money form this business at least awhile.
About Ariana, I sympathize with her situation. Life is tough for a single mother. She is just 20 yo. I know she is trying to make money to give her baby daughter a safe net and good future.
I am sure that the Hungarian Dina will retire in the near future.[/QUOTE]It's not fair to speak about their private life. Girls deserve respect.
[QUOTE=Nympholepsy;1958656]sucked in by the beauty of Nastia. Had to try. Did not expect too much. Was not fooled either. Weak for BJ, lacking GFE, no repeat.
Line up overall very good but Nastia the only absolute stunner to my taste.[/QUOTE][B]Nestia ro[/B] has long brown hair, tall, leggy, full "see" or "the" cup natural breasts in a tear drop shape. She is a former photo model. Any man would be proud to walk into a club with Nestia on their arm and her in a sexy Prada lady's suit. She thinks she deserves more due to her back ground and good looks. In response, I could say I am a photo model as well and deserve everything as well. She tends to have her towel wrapped around her torso and is only occasionally showing her beautiful physical assets. No kissing of any sort but she says this before going to the room. Nestia has been at the club for 2 weeks now. In the room, Nestia offers covered blowjob only. All these were confirmed by three colleagues who all on their own volition booked Nestia since they could not resist her good looks. When I interviewed her she was personable, had a winning smile and grinned at the same concepts I had when an American man came by the bar acting like he owned Europe, Nestia gave me a smirk and rolled her eyes when I saw the same overt behavior. Nestia must be reminded that covered blowjob is not allowed as the German men would say. She is recommended if this is what you like.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1959469]A top girl told me that on Saturday she had 6 rooms of 1 h to 2 h (with tips) and only 1 room for 30 minutes, however, on Sunday she had only 3 rooms 30 minutes before 0 h. This explains why some girls avoid working on Sunday[/QUOTE]This really depends on the girls. Some top girls get good business on Sundays. Some have appointments with regulars on Sundays, but some top girls say it's actually easier to get business because less girls show up to compete.
[B]Janine de[/B] Apparently, Janine works around two nights (not day shift) a week these days. When she is in the club, as has been reported already, she is booked by her local German paramour. She sits on her towel, twirling her long straight brown hair, on the group of couches that are by the money lockers. Her regular client negotiates a rate which Janine is paid her stipend. There is usually a bottle of something to drink like a two liter bottle of vodka in a kick ass huge bottle cooler filled to the brim with ice and assorted mixers. The German guy is cool and offers you a drink when you attract his attention to chat with him. Now for us mere mortals wanting to have a go with Janine to feel her great looking tear drop shaped tits, the deal is you can ask Janine and Janine has to ask her German man for permission if you can book her. It is then the decision of the German man if you are allowed to take Janine to the room to fuck. If the German man does not like you then I guess the answer is a no and Janine continues to sit on the couch twirling her brown hair and looking cute staring out into space with her blue eyes. While Janine is completely booked for the night of her shift, the German man can go off with other girls or go around the club leaving Janine all alone and Janine can say she is busy since theoretically she is booked for the whole time. Janine does genuinely like the German so there is something going on there. It appears like a money, power or control relationship. So I hope this is helpful for the guys wanting to book Janine.
While at Reception there were several random guys asking the lady at Reception for a pen and a small piece of paper. The woman said with a wry smile that all these men are all lucky to get the handy numbers of girls in the club since they want paper to write their numbers to give to the girls. I burst out laughing when I heard that quip from the Reception lady. Since what she was saying was very true.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1959366]I was told that blonde Ariana was kicked out by the boss after contesting of a customer who is not the first customer did it.
Sharks still remain a must among the FKK of the Frankfurt area.[/QUOTE]She deserved being kick out. She was very rude.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1959715][B]Nestia ro[/B] has long brown hair, tall, leggy, full "see" or "the" cup natural breasts in a tear drop shape. .[/QUOTE]Does she always sit on the single-sit armchair next to the stairs? Back faced do the "german corner".
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1959729]Does she always sit on the single-sit armchair next to the stairs? Back faced do the "german corner".[/QUOTE]Not always on that single sitting arm chair under the stairs but yes in that general area where Megan ro also sits. That is her usual spot. Did you also fuck Nastia as well?
Nastia ro still does modelling so maybe you can see her in an advertisement and remember fond memories that you fuck a photo model.
I guess the photo shoots are for Romanian media but then could well be for international media.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1959730]Not always on that single sitting arm chair under the stairs but yes in that general area where Megan ro also sits. That is her usual spot. Did you also fuck Nastia as well?
[/QUOTE]No I didn't talk to her. She looks distant. After 10 years of FKK experience I can see in the girls' eyes if she worth the session. I am not really optickficker. Without kissing session has no vaue to me. Nestia looks like no-DFK girl.
[QUOTE=NF4591;1952639]Diana (Ro) - fantastic natural see-cup tits, dyed blonde hair. She said she would do kissing with 1-hour, and would charge extra for FIV. We went to the room for an hour, with very light kissing (not great), BBBJ and mediocre BLS, and I finished in missionary. After a short break, we had a round2, with doggy (where I held her arms together behind her back. Was fun), and I had trouble finishing so she went back to BBBJ while I made myself finish with my hand until CIM. Her personality was fun, but it was not a great session. Rating 5/10,150 euros for one hour + CIM.[/QUOTE]Further to previous made by others and even my own comments further below, my opinion is that when incentivised, Diana actually puts on a really good performance. Yes it is not a 50 euro session but if you invest a 100 euro with her you will get DFK and you get to do a fair bit with her fabulous body. This is my experience with Diana.
I know I have posted these pictures in another thread but after having another look at them I realised that these pictures have an uncanny look to Diana's current, dyed straight blonde look and this girl also has Diana's facial features. Of course the pictures have silicone tits and Diana's tits are naturals but it gives a guy an idea what a pretty girl Diana is.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1959739]No I didn't talk to her. She looks distant. After 10 years of FKK experience I can see in the girls' eyes if she worth the session. I am not really optickficker. Without kissing session has no vaue to me. Nestia looks like no-DFK girl.[/QUOTE]Jymondor, your long term experience has made you wise. Your instincts were correct about Nastia ro. All my information is she did not kiss and she did covered blowjob. I stand to be corrected if someone else had a different experience or had more charm (would not be difficult with these guys) than the sample of 4 guys I know who went with Nastia.
[QUOTE=DaWong949;1959723]She deserved being kick out. She was very rude.[/QUOTE]I had about 10 1 hour rooms with her, from end of February to beginning of April. Never had the faintest problem with her in room, no time upselling, no AO upselling. I know she changed and talked about me, on mid April, after we stopped, but I remember the great little woman with high GFE sexual level, she was for our weekly rooms, often twice in week end, even only 19 yo. My number 1 when I went with her. A real, fresh in mind, sunshine. I never forgot, that is why I did for her in July, because I was sad for her, something I never did before and will never do again, just to thank her for the past, to make me forget ski injuries.
After Ilka, Kate, Roberta, Leila, probably Mersi and if Ariana was really fired, Sharks is really losing best girls, for new, not kissing, girls. New standards for Sharks girls services? Cold models or GND rather than real GFE or classy Kate or Ilka, or tornado Roberta and Leila.
I was able to catch Janine without that German guy being close by, and didn't notice anything telling me she was unsure about going to the room when we did. Money is always something at a place like this, but it is nothing like she is locked down completely. She does seem more relaxed about the job than most other girls though. Never any stress, and takes it cool. I must say I admire that attitude and I think it attracts a lot of guys to her also. Can tell by the publicity she gets here on the forum. And never any rude either, taking everything as a joke and laughs she basically seems to enjoy herself. Lots of girls should take ideas from that psyche she has.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1959812]I was able to catch Janine without that german guy being close by, and didn't notice anything telling me she was unsure about going to the room when we did. Money is allways something at a place like this, but it is nothing like she is locked down completely. She does seem more relaxed about the job than most other girls though. Never any stress, and takes it cool. I must say i admire that attitude... and I think it attracts alot of guys to her also. Can tell by the publicity she gets here on the forum... And never any rude either, taking everything as a joke and laughs... she basically seems to enjoy herself. Lots of girls should take ideas from that psyche she has...[/QUOTE]Your fetish on Janine is extremely bizarre.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1959592]You may need to check with Badinsweet who says Tatiana is back in Romania attending school learning to become a professional.[/QUOTE]Was it Chemistry? I can't recall what she told me, but I do remember that it was not an easy subject. What I do remember was that in my last session with her, she was still chatting non-stop just when I was about to get my orgasm - very distracting.
Nevertheless, she is very sweet and entertaining, and probably one of the more intelligent girls I have met in FKKs. Ariana was pretty upset when twice I approached that pair and took Tatiana instead of Ariana.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1959812]I was able to catch Janine without that german guy being close by, and didn't notice anything telling me she was unsure about going to the room when we did. Money is allways something at a place like this, but it is nothing like she is locked down completely. She does seem more relaxed about the job than most other girls though. Never any stress, and takes it cool. I must say i admire that attitude... and I think it attracts alot of guys to her also. Can tell by the publicity she gets here on the forum... And never any rude either, taking everything as a joke and laughs... she basically seems to enjoy herself. Lots of girls should take ideas from that psyche she has...[/QUOTE]Easy to say but not easy to do for many girls who believe that they are doing something bad by prostituting themselves which is also not completely wrong. Let us imagine you have a daughter and that she will tell you that she is working in FKK Shark I am not sure about your reaction but I have 2 daughters and I will definitely not agree at all so if they still do it they can feel guilty and could explain the attitude of most of the girls. They know that their family will not appreciate at all their occupation.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1959812]I was able to catch Janine without that german guy being close by, and didn't notice anything telling me she was unsure about going to the room when we did. Money is allways something at a place like this, but it is nothing like she is locked down completely. She does seem more relaxed about the job than most other girls though. Never any stress, and takes it cool. I must say i admire that attitude... and I think it attracts alot of guys to her also. Can tell by the publicity she gets here on the forum... And never any rude either, taking everything as a joke and laughs... she basically seems to enjoy herself. Lots of girls should take ideas from that psyche she has...[/QUOTE]Your experience seems to be unique with Janine from what I know. Janine's service os a star fish in the room.
When you went to Janine was there a whopping great big bottle of alcohol at her table or was there none? It may have been a different arrangement when you went to her. How long aho was that?
Also I found Janine to be relatively rude from own personal experience. He answer to questions on availability was a simple " No" with no indication of whether it was No, never or No, Later. Other guys I know have said similar in that she looks blankly at them or just shuts them down with a negative "I am busy" when all she's to be doing is talking to her German fan club.
[QUOTE=GuyFromParis;1959688]It's not fair to speak about their private life. Girls deserve respect.[/QUOTE]As a suggestion. If its not correct to write about working girls' private lives then maybe it would have been more appropriate not to quote the entire offending report to say so and in the process thereby perpetutating further exposition of the offending post where there is discussion on gitls' private lives. Is that okay?
I agree that JohnEllee's post on girls' private lives is not correct.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1959877]Your experience seems to be unique with Janine from what I know. Janine's service os a star fish in the room.
When you went to Janine was there a whopping great big bottle of alcohol at her table or was there none? It may have been a different arrangement when you went to her. How long aho was that?
Also I found Janine to be relatively rude from own personal experience. He answer to questions on availability was a simple " No" with no indication of whether it was No, never or No, Later. Other guys I know have said similar in that she looks blankly at them or just shuts them down with a negative "I am busy" when all she's to be doing is talking to her German fan club.[/QUOTE]I always try to get first some eyes contact to see if the is a interest before I am going further, no eyes contact possible definitively a no go for me. Last week at Oase experienced it again, tried several times to get any eyes contact with a girl but was not possible, after I choose another girl that I am familiar with and she noticed that I was trying with the other girl and she told me that the girl was silly and believing she is the queen of the club and so she can reject who she wants, may be true but I don t care had a really great session with a extremely beautiful girl, great optical fuck.
[QUOTE=GuyFromParis;1959688]It's not fair to speak about their private life. Girls deserve respect.[/QUOTE]This kind of information is without any value for me, maybe it is true may be not, all the girls are telling the same stories, single mother, the father has a cancer, her brother needs to go to the hospital, I am here for 1 year to pay my studies. Sometimes when a go out with some girls (who are also doing escort) after some drinks they are telling you a different story. I think it is quite fair that the girls don t tell us the truth (it is better they protect their privacy), as we also are not telling the truth to our wife or girlfriend.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1959718]This really depends on the girls. Some top girls get good business on Sundays. Some have appointments with regulars on Sundays, but some top girls say it's actually easier to get business because less girls show up to compete.[/QUOTE]He meant on this last Sunday. Many girls were even not busy on Saturday. Steffi was less lucky than on Monday. Melani, Mila, Stefani. FR, Patricia, Pia. De and many others, not busy. Brenda / Leya, Anja, quite free, even Megan was quite free after we finished at 2 pm.
BadinS, if you enjoy with Steffi, why do you want she changes of behavior, to go hunting and rubbing on guys? Like some girls. All her charm is to be different, with classy natural look and behavior. Only a few girls like her in brothels, like Madi World before she started hunting, or now my Madeleine at GT. These kind of girls are much more attractive for me. If I felt a bit of passionate illusion with no kissing on first room, model Valentina or tornado Antonella, so I repeated and got DFK, but despite she was friendly, I didn't feel with Steffi. Nevertheless, she is kind of woman I like for look and behavior, just lack of GF illusion.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1959877]Your experience seems to be unique with Janine from what I know. Janine's service os a star fish in the room.
When you went to Janine was there a whopping great big bottle of alcohol at her table or was there none? It may have been a different arrangement when you went to her. How long aho was that?
Also I found Janine to be relatively rude from own personal experience. He answer to questions on availability was a simple " No" with no indication of whether it was No, never or No, Later. Other guys I know have said similar in that she looks blankly at them or just shuts them down with a negative "I am busy" when all she's to be doing is talking to her German fan club.[/QUOTE]I am not 100% sure, but I don't think there were a champagne bottle there. Like I said, when she was without another guy. Only other girl in the same couch. It happens that I see that other times also. But you are right that most of the time she is busy. I think it was in Sept., but that hardly changes much. I didn't comment on how she was in the room though. Seemed like less of a routine and just random. But I have no idea really. Starfish? I don't know. Don't think I should say too much, but she has favourite positions but you know what, I think YMMV with most girls. Janine included, or maybe even especially for someone like her. This idea that all girls are the same with every guy just doesn't hold up very often for both good and bad in my experiences.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1959914]He meant on this last Sunday. Many girls were even not busy on Saturday. Steffi was less lucky than on Monday. Melani, Mila, Stefani. FR, Patricia, Pia. De and many others, not busy. Brenda / Leya, Anja, quite free, even Megan was quite free after we finished at 2 pm.
BadinS, if you enjoy with Steffi, why do you want she changes of behavior, to go hunting and rubbing on guys? Like some girls. All her charm is to be different, with classy natural look and behavior...[/QUOTE]As much as I like Steffi and want to keep her to myself, I still wish the best thing for her and wish she could get more business. By not approaching or at least walking around, she lose some of the customer, specially the shy kind, that would have gone with her.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;1959861]Was it Chemistry? I can't recall what she told me, but I do remember that it was not an easy subject. What I do remember was that in my last session with her, she was still chatting non-stop just when I was about to get my orgasm - very distracting.
Nevertheless, she is very sweet and entertaining, and probably one of the more intelligent girls I have met in FKKs. Ariana was pretty upset when twice I approached that pair and took Tatiana instead of Ariana.[/QUOTE]She's studying Pharmacist. She said she openly discuss about this with her customer, otherwise I would not have brought it up. I actually quiz her on the formula of Alcohol to see if she was really a pharmacist student.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1959592]You may need to check with Badinsweet who says Tatiana is back in Romania attending school learning to become a professional. If this corect then she was always going to be lonely.[/QUOTE]She won't be lonely in the club as she has me (and some of her other regular) to keep her company :-P
[QUOTE=TankTank123;1959522]Earlier this year, in summer, Ariana came to me and kissed me on the lips when I was chatting with another girl. That girl was furious, shouted at Ariana, and later went to complain to management. She told me that she had seen Ariana do this to other girls and their customers, but this was the first time it was done to her and she would not tolerate it.
I guess Ariana has now done it once too often. Tatiana will be lonely without her![/QUOTE]I feel bad for her and specially for Tatiana as they are very good friend. I just hope she doesn't follow her friend to other club. Otherwise, I will have no choice but to follow her.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1959730]Nastia ro still does modelling so maybe you can see her in an advertisement and remember fond memories that you fuck a photo model.
I guess the photo shoots are for Romanian media but then could well be for international media.[/QUOTE]Did you really see her modeling? Even pretty with beautiful 85 C cup tits, not enough to make money from modeling, have to have an aura and fighting spirit for much more competitive business than brothels. Despite my advice, one seem to prefer to keep on working in brothel. 3 photos don't mean being a real model. Why would a model work to be fucked in brothel? Even without kissing and sucking a condom.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1959442]You tried Stella. De at Sharks? On Monday and Saturday, she was smiling, but looks too old and not slim enough now. She was quite busy on Monday, so she seems OK for some guys, maybe because she is German. Some guys don t seem into kissing or foreplay, but just suck and fuck sex.
Lena was booked all Monday by one guy, so he should have enjoyed for 11 hours. Maybe also because German. Not the prettiest at Sharks for me. She can't compete with Nea World for face and smile, for me. Californian look, Nea came to me on this Saturday, smiling, making a kiss. She was friend with Madi before she retired and with Anjelina this Summer, so she knows about my behavior and my writings, but she came smiling. I was very happy for her she got business on this time at Sharks, this is much better for her than being exhausted like I saw her many times at World, having to wait until 5 am in an empty World. Even I never repeated, but for her smile, I wish her the best at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Yes, I tried Stella. I had a craving for a blonde beautiful German. She is old for sure. She is over weight for sure. But, she is also OK for a BJ when tired and want a pretty face. She will be busy at Sharks, at least for a while and then it will be over. I think Sharks should stop taking her kind because. They change the pricing scheme and club personality. Lena is super sweet and she has a guy that comes sometimes and books her for the day. Service is far from top, but she is very likable.
Nea is an outstanding sweetheart. For me, she is better than Lena and Stella put together.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1959479]She is back to Palace since over a week.
HB.[/QUOTE]Perfect news, HB! Thanks!
[QUOTE=Pistons;1959687]Your Dina fixation really is quite strange.[/QUOTE]Dina is not going anywhere. She is too greedy and like money. As long as she gets booked, she will work. But, she does take BF breaks.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1959687]Your Dina fixation really is quite strange.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TankTank123;1915768]FKK Leipzig has good facilities. it is very easy to get to - a 15-minute direct tram ride from the central train station. 10-15 girls in the afternoon, 30-40 at night. It has the same owner and rules as FKK World, so girls are fully nude (not allowed to cover up), and are not aggressive. There are a handful of pretty ones, who arrive in late afternoon. The pretty ones are normally fresh girls from Romania or Bulgaria who just spend 1-2 months in FKK Leipzig before moving on to other clubs.
Forget about FKK Europa - it is small and with mainly MILFs.
The train journey from Leipzig to Frankfurt takes 4 hours. And then it will take another hour to get to Sharks after factoring waiting time and train journey from Frankfurt to Darmstadt.
A plane flight takes just as long as you have to travel to the airport and wait for the flight. Lufthansa is also very prone to strikes.
You can get from Leipzig to FKK World in 4 hours by changing trains at Fulda to go direct to Giessen without going to Frankfurt. If booked in advance on Internet, the price of Leipzig-Giessen ticket is only 29 euros![/QUOTE]Thanks for this information! Anything else around Leipzig worth doing or with 1-2 hours from Berlin?
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1959866]Easy to say but not easy to do for many girls who believe that they are doing something bad by prostituting themselves which is also not completely wrong. Let us imagine you have a daughter and that she will tell you that she is working in FKK Shark I am not sure about your reaction but I have 2 daughters and I will definitely not agree at all so if they still do it they can feel guilty and could explain the attitude of most of the girls. They know that their family will not appreciate at all their occupation.[/QUOTE]What a girl's family knows and thinks is not our business at all, and most if us are not interested in your particular morals either.
I accept that girls need to make money and I accept that some may actually like fucking a lot of guys. One girl indicated to me that in her view there is nothing at a wrong with sex. Its a natural thing.
I do not think bad things about a girl because she is a sex worker. I hate the idea of girls earning the money to hand over to a pimp, but that is a different issue.
I have had a GF for a while who was working FKK. I never considered trying to stop her. She needed to make the money.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1959866]Easy to say but not easy to do for many girls who believe that they are doing something bad by prostituting themselves which is also not completely wrong. Let us imagine you have a daughter and that she will tell you that she is working in FKK Shark I am not sure about your reaction but I have 2 daughters and I will definitely not agree at all so if they still do it they can feel guilty and could explain the attitude of most of the girls. They know that their family will not appreciate at all their occupation.[/QUOTE]I would feel shameful as a father if my daughters are working at a FKK for just money. That the hard work I've put in and the wealth I've amassed and their grand parents amassed isn't enough to fulfill their basic needs. They are forced into prostitution because it's all they got. I would be a failure.
But if my daughters are working at FKK because they like to be fucked by multiple old men and it's their life choice then I would support it. If they work their part-time and is more of a kink for them I will be fine with it and would be hypocritical to say otherwise. Plus I'll have them introduce me to their FKK co-workers!
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1960192]What a girl's family knows and thinks is not our business at all, and most if us are not interested in your particular morals either.
I accept that girls need to make money and I accept that some may actually like fucking a lot of guys. One girl indicated to me that in her view there is nothing at a wrong with sex. Its a natural thing.
I do not think bad things about a girl because she is a sex worker. I hate the idea of girls earning the money to hand over to a pimp, but that is a different issue.
I have had a GF for a while who was working FKK. I never considered trying to stop her. She needed to make the money.[/QUOTE]May be you are right but personally I don t think it s a natural thing to have a lot of sex with man from whom you even don t know the name and will not recognize them 1 week later. Last week at World I saw a very nice girl going to the room with a old German man looking very sick, not sure if she doesn't need money she will do it.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1960153]Thanks for this information! Anything else around Leipzig worth doing or with 1-2 hours from Berlin?[/QUOTE]Sorry, as I was there on a work assignment, I do not know much of the tourist attractions, but is certainly has many preserved historical buildings as, unlike Dresden, it was not heavily bombed during the war; and many museums.
Near Berlin, you might want to visit Potsdam.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1960217]May be you are right but personally I don t think it s a natural thing to have a lot of sex with man from whom you even don t know the name and will not recognize them 1 week later. Last week at World I saw a very nice girl going to the room with a old German man looking very sick, not sure if she doesn't need money she will do it.[/QUOTE]What are you doing here?
For all of us, it is very very difficult to have sex with a girl we don't know and who will forget us 5's after we paid.
For all of us (hum nearly all), it is very difficult to have to work, something we would never never do if we were not needing money to live and stupidly spend with girls who don't care about us.
My advice: go only to church, maybe one day god will speak with you. Best orgasm of your life for sure. Be patient, and stop sex as only god deserves your love and sperm. Ohne gummy with him, he is safe! Prepare your ass, i have the idea he will be the master...
And finally, i'm not sure the best part of this business are 'beautiful', 'respectfull' custumers who tell them how disgusting is their activity before... doing it.
But maybe i miss something like a pervert orgasm telling with respecfull words she's socially a so bad girl, then respectfully get good sex against good words. So good that the money i give is of course not a reason at all.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1960140]Yes, I tried Stella. I had a craving for a blonde beautiful German. She is old for sure. She is over weight for sure. But, she is also OK for a BJ when tired and want a pretty face. She will be busy at Sharks, at least for a while and then it will be over. I think Sharks should stop taking her kind because. They change the pricing scheme and club personality. Lena is super sweet and she has a guy that comes sometimes and books her for the day. Service is far from top, but she is very likable.
Nea is an outstanding sweetheart. For me, she is better than Lena and Stella put together.[/QUOTE]For sure, even on a Saturday with maybe more than 100 girls, Sharks casting is below what it was.
You've been with dark blond, tattooed arm, Stella. De at Sharks or Palace?
If You rate Nea higher in room than Lena or Stella, I like Nea face and smile but never repeated because far below Madi when she was on top.
Could you guys tip me for Line up schedule for Oase?
So it open at 10 PM and LU for morning will be max at noon already before lunch?
Also afternoon LU flow in at 4 PM? Or more like 5 PM like some other club? Max at 8 PM?
[QUOTE=HappyFkk;1960233]What are you doing here?
For all of us, it is very very difficult to have sex with a girl we don't know and who will forget us 5's after we paid.
For all of us (hum nearly all), it is very difficult to have to work, something we would never never do if we were not needing money to live and stupidly spend with girls who don't care about us.
My advice: go only to church, maybe one day god will speak with you. Best orgasm of your life for sure. Be patient, and stop sex as only god deserves your love and sperm. Ohne gummy with him, he is safe! Prepare your ass, i have the idea he will be the master...
And finally, i'm not sure the best part of this business are 'beautiful', 'respectfull' custumers who tell them how disgusting is their activity before... doing it.
But maybe i miss something like a pervert orgasm telling with respecfull words she's socially a so bad girl, then respectfully get good sex against good words. So good that the money i give is of course not a reason at all.[/QUOTE]Each one his opinion and life, freedom is important in our beautiful country, freedom to think, to say, to write, also works in Germany, even in brothels, even on this forum.
I would like some WGs and guys forget me.
I asked about LU schedule before and I wrote Oase, but I meant sharks sorry.
Could you inform me if you can how LU flow in is it noon for morning shift and around 5 PM for evening shift?
[QUOTE=HappyFkk;1960233]What are you doing here?
For all of us, it is very very difficult to have sex with a girl we don't know and who will forget us 5's after we paid.
For all of us (hum nearly all), it is very difficult to have to work, something we would never never do if we were not needing money to live and stupidly spend with girls who don't care about us.
My advice: go only to church, maybe one day god will speak with you. Best orgasm of your life for sure. Be patient, and stop sex as only god deserves your love and sperm. Ohne gummy with him, he is safe! Prepare your ass, i have the idea he will be the master...
And finally, i'm not sure the best part of this business are 'beautiful', 'respectfull' custumers who tell them how disgusting is their activity before... doing it.
But maybe i miss something like a pervert orgasm telling with respecfull words she's socially a so bad girl, then respectfully get good sex against good words. So good that the money i give is of course not a reason at all.[/QUOTE]I never go to church and I don't believe in any god. I respect your opinion just try to respect my opinion. I don't know what is a pervert orgasm but may be were you thinking about some pervert behavior / words that can lead to get a orgasm.
[QUOTE=MrHo;1960256]I asked about LU schedule before and I wrote Oase, but I meant sharks sorry.
Could you inform me if you can how LU flow in is it noon for morning shift and around 5 PM for evening shift?[/QUOTE]No shifts at Sharks. Girls come and go as they like. They can work 1 or 16 hours per day, they can come at 11 am or 11 pm.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1960495]No shifts at Sharks. Girls come and go as they like. They can work 1 or 16 hours per day, they can come at 11 am or 11 pm.
HB.[/QUOTE]1 good point for girls working at Sharks, so different than World management. 1 bad point is some girls sleeping now in rooms where they are fucked, fortunately the new law will forbid this. It also happens at LR, GT and Aca.
[QUOTE=DaWong949;1959723]She deserved being kick out. She was very rude.[/QUOTE]Objectively, Ariana was very friendly and engaging. But she became very heavy when clients (regular or not) are with another girl. She beat with lots of girls thinking that others steal her customers. Maybe she did not understand that because of her youth, clients do not come to having sex only with one girl in the club where we have a choice among over 100 girls. When I saw she fought with another girl, she shouted to her that "I'm better than you! ". She obviously cannot have peace in the club with this type of character, same character as Iris, small skinny, which was also kicked off the club recently.
Competition has become so heavy at Sharks recently, the girls are ready to do anything. It is such a shame that the degradation of this level happen.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;1960231]Sorry, as I was there on a work assignment, I do not know much of the tourist attractions, but is certainly has many preserved historical buildings as, unlike Dresden, it was not heavily bombed during the war; and many museums.
Near Berlin, you might want to visit Potsdam.[/QUOTE]Thanks, sorry I wasn't clear enough. Something to do as in FKK clubs, LOL.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1960247]For sure, even on a Saturday with maybe more than 100 girls, Sharks casting is below what it was.
You've been with dark blond, tattooed arm, Stella. De at Sharks or Palace?
If You rate Nea higher in room than Lena or Stella, I like Nea face and smile but never repeated because far below Madi when she was on top.[/QUOTE]Nea is great compared to Lena and Stella, but she is not in the same quality bucket as Madi. Madi is top performer while Nea is a sweetheart that tried hard to make her clients happy, but skill level is far from Madi.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1960495]No shifts at Sharks. Girls come and go as they like. They can work 1 or 16 hours per day, they can come at 11 am or 11 pm.
HB.[/QUOTE]Thank you Mr HB!
So they can come in at any time they want or they come at 11 AM and 11 PM?
[QUOTE=MrHo;1960579]Thank you Mr HB!
So they can come in at any time they want or they come at 11 AM and 11 PM?[/QUOTE]Ho. If you are not a bot
and can read, scroll back a few pages and you will clearly see that this is the draw for the girls. Not having to stay untill they are toast. They come and go as pleased. Ho man really slacking on reading on the forum and to familiar with blabbing nonsense.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1960551]Competition has become so heavy at Sharks recently, the girls are ready to do anything. It is such a shame that the degradation of this level happen.[/QUOTE]"To do anything".
Like what? Examples?
One time, I took Arianna for a session. I was not fully up for it, so I stopped after half HR, and said perhaps we can try later. I did not make any definite promise. As it happened, I found a couple of my top girls, including a long session with Tatiana. The next day I ran into Arianna, but she was so pissed at me claiming I reneged on a promise, and seemed to be miffed with her pal Tatiana as well. She is a nice girl, but takes it too emotional when she gets dinged.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1959877]Your experience seems to be unique with Janine from what I know. Janine's service os a star fish in the room.
Also I found Janine to be relatively rude from own personal experience. He answer to questions on availability was a simple " No" with no indication of whether it was No, never or No, Later. Other guys I know have said similar in that she looks blankly at them or just shuts them down with a negative "I am busy" when all she's to be doing is talking to her German fan club.[/QUOTE]I think it is unfair to smear Janine. She has right to be selective. It is your own problem to think that she is rude to you. Janine deserves to be treated respectfully.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1960551]Objectively, Ariana was very friendly and engaging. But she became very heavy when clients (regular or not) are with another girl. She beat with lots of girls thinking that others steal her customers. Maybe she did not understand that because of her youth, clients do not come to having sex only with one girl in the club where we have a choice among over 100 girls. When I saw she fought with another girl, she shouted to her that "I'm better than you! ". She obviously cannot have peace in the club with this type of character, same character as Iris, small skinny, which was also kicked off the club recently.
[/QUOTE]Its Sir Sirioja aka the french devil poet's fault bc he went with her exclusively when she was new, LOL.
Kick out is a common thing for girls at Sharks, less for customers. The club cannot control the behavior of all the girls, over a hundred, to avoid the trouble. When the behavior of girls does not go, the club decides to kick out girls very easily as we know.
The criteria are the following:
- Consumption of drags in the club.
- Troubles with customers and the other girls.
- See clients outside the club.
For the last two, the club first give a warning, but for first one, kick out directly.
However, for customers who may remain loyal to the club and stay many years as a machine to give money to the club more than working girls, the policy of a club for kick out remains ambiguous.
Customers violating or too drunk asked to leave the club normally, but they can come back later without problems.
A local regular customer filmed girls in the room and was reported to the reception. The direction kick out this customer, but he returned a year later, the victims (girls) are not at all happy to see him still in the club, but the management does not care.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1960664]Its Sir Sirioja aka the french devil poet's fault bc he went with her exclusively when she was new, LOL.[/QUOTE]I wrote ArianaR was my number 1 on March, but I had also Megan at this time and I can only thank her to understand when I didn't have time for both, for my short pit stops, on my way to my white Paradises. Ariana was funny, saying to a guy I often met at this time, I went only with her, when it was just because I couldn't stay for long time, so I asked her to arrive as early as she could, because I had a long drive after to my beloved Alps. Because of her private hurting story, she did need to feel we like her, to feel good, and of course when it didn't work in her way, she became not clever at all and badly talkative, why I didn't repeat with her when she read what I really wrote and not bullshit she was said about me, but no more GFE illusion. Anyway, one of my top 2016 Sharks girl, honest about money, just not clever and too talkative, but she is not the only one, girls change when you don't give them anymore money so often than you used to.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1960617]"To do anything".
Like what? Examples?[/QUOTE]These are commonplace things: spreading lies on other girls, reducing the price or free extra, AO proposal etc.
Recently, almost all girls tell me "I really like you" or "I love you" after a room hoping for the next meeting. This is also part of "anything" because of cries LOL.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1960624]I think it is unfair to smear Janine. She has right to be selective. It is your own problem to think that she is rude to you. Janine deserves to be treated respectfully.[/QUOTE]She is probably in denial about her chosen profession and rationalizing it by the fact the she chooses her clients or whatever BS reason. This will change after sometime. It is not personal. She is a kid that needs to make sense of fucking and sucking for money.
I was checking when the FKK Sharks Christmas party will be in December 2016, I could not find any information on the website. Could anyone share this information on the forum please?
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1960624]I think it is unfair to smear Janine. She has right to be selective. It is your own problem to think that she is rude to you. Janine deserves to be treated respectfully.[/QUOTE]It is not a smear on Janine when it is the truth that she has come across as rude or indifferent. If anything she should treat her potential customers more respectfully. This forum is about sharing information so other members are aware.
It also appears you have no problem with Sirioja's statement below about freedom, objecting to censorship or preventing suppression of information.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1959005]Nobody will never say to me what to think or to do, nothing more important than freedom for me, even in brothels, if my words were not the best because usually I respect people in countries I visit. I will never change my way of behavior.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1960932]I was checking when the FKK Sharks Christmas party will be in December 2016, I could not find any information on the website. Could anyone share this information on the forum please?[/QUOTE]No Sharks or Oase Christmas party on 2 last years, only at World. Great ladies in red Christmas party at World on 2014, 4 1 hour rooms with my regular on week end, she was so classy look with red dress, red shoes making red feet.
Sylvester party at Sharks and Oase, gay party with not the best girls who return home, no Sylvester at World. Sylvester at Globe.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1960551]Competition has become so heavy at Sharks recently, the girls are ready to do anything. It is such a shame that the degradation of this level happen.[/QUOTE]My thoughts on this point is that I have noticed at least on one occasion and maybe more where girls or girls have blatantly requested different pricing from customers. Now, I am not naive to think that girls offer the same value and pricing to every customer. My experience has been that for the same set of friends who know each other well and would undoubtedly share information that a girl (and maybe more as we discuss amongst friends. Since even between friends not all details are shared), that one guy got one set of pricing and another guy got a lower set of pricing. In my example, the girl knew we were good friends but in the same period she offers one set of pricing to one guy and then another set of pricing to the other guy. Of course not at the same time and in front of each of us but close enough in timing. Now I do understand girls are human and maybe she did not like one of the two guys so she did the up sell thing, but she did this in the room after accepting the offer to go to the room. Maybe she up sold the services as extras thinking she could get away with it or she thought we had not shared any information between us.
This girl is one that gets rave reviews and seems beloved on this forum.
Nonetheless the end result is that neither of us would go back to this one girl again since she tried to fuck one of us over and this behavior did not seem fair. There is also the bond that one friend wishes to support the other friend.
So just another example of girls are ready to do anything.
[QUOTE=HappyFkk;1960233]For all of us, it is very very difficult to have sex with a girl we don't know and who will forget us 5's after we paid..[/QUOTE]Thank you for your soliloquy. It was poignant. I think you are describing the search for the elusive "girl friend experience". The girl forgetting about you just 5 seconds after she had your member in her mouth and that same cock up her ass just does not gel well.
I too feel less than enthused when as you say 5 seconds after having had full sex with a girl that she totally blanks you afterwards. It does not endear me to return to that girl again for a further session. Diana and Janine falls into this category.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1960706]Kick out is a common thing for girls at Sharks, less for customers. The club cannot control the behavior of all the girls, over a hundred, to avoid the trouble. When the behavior of girls does not go, the club decides to kick out girls very easily as we know.
The criteria are the following:
- Consumption of drags in the club.
- Troubles with customers and the other girls.
- See clients outside the club.
For the last two, the club first give a warning, but for first one, kick out directly.[/QUOTE]Hmm at least I doubt the drugs thing. Many club girls take cocaine also at Sharks, rough guess almost 20% of the club girls. The clubs usually know the cocaine girls as well as the cocaine clients. And usually no one get kick out for this from clubs. Even the dealers are usually well known and ofc someone earns money with this.
Also meeting outside with clients isn't usually a kick out reason at Sharks (it's more a reason at other clubs) otherwise I could mention some Sharks "superstars" couldn't work there anymore.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1960954]Hmm at least I doubt the drugs thing. Many club girls take cocaine also at Sharks, rough guess almost 20% of the club girls. The clubs usually know the cocaine girls as well as the cocaine clients. And usually no one get kick out for this from clubs. Even the dealers are usually well known and ofc someone earns money with this.
Also meeting outside with clients isn't usually a kick out reason at Sharks (it's more a reason at other clubs) otherwise I could mention some Sharks "superstars" couldn't work there anymore.[/QUOTE]I agree with you Craiova. The amount of drugs being used in the club really makes for the party atmosphere, happy girls always smiling and being interesting. It makes me feel sometimes like at Golden Time when the girls there take over one of the outside huts for sharing a few lines together.
At Sharks, you have girls excusing themselves to go away to a room together, then come back all high, next thing you know these girls are dancing on the pole podium and being silly and ignoring all the customers around them. Sometimes you have a girl using weed in the room. But they have to use a room with a window to clear the air.
See attached advert from Oase. Please just focus on the picture of the black haired girl and not that it is an Oase advert. I just thought to me that the black haired woman's look was very similar to Anya at Sharks for those wanting to locate her or at least understand what she looks like.
Not that you meant it that way, but in my view this type of behavior from girls is not because they are any more extra cruel etc, but due to the nature of their job. First, it is difficult for them to be difficult to be emotional about even one client, let alone so many clients when they fuck a dozen men a day. So, they necessarily have to blank out that side of their brain / heart. Which means, if they are nice to some men post coitus, it is out of sheer professional courtesy and in hope of a future sale. Now, all of them are not necessarily good at customer service, and perhaps it is tiring to be nice to so many. (After all, they have their own emotions to deal with, and even the very best of them have to deal with rejections many times in a day from men who refuse to fuck them for a 50, when in the real world, none of them would even give us the time of the day if they saw us outside.).
And then there is the practical aspect of it. I do take repeat sessions on the same day with my top girls, but I think I am an exception. I think most clients don't repeat the same girl after another 2 or 3 hrs. Next day perhaps but not on the same day. So, the girl may feel there is not much to be gained by being extra nice and smiling and chatty with a guy who already fucked her on that night. She might spend that same effort and charm on some new guy and score another session. Now, if the guy is a regular, she might act different, but for a non regular, she might think it is a wasted effort. And some men feel entitled, and waste time, or feel the girl up for free just because they had given her a 50 earlier that day. That obviously is not in her interest.
None of us how girls feel. It is a tough business and we are not in their shoes.
Anyway, my 2 cents.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1960953]Thank you for your soliloquy. It was poignant. I think you are describing the search for the elusive "girl friend experience". The girl forgetting about you just 5 seconds after she had your member in her mouth and that same cock up her ass just does not gel well.
I too feel less than enthused when as you say 5 seconds after having had full sex with a girl that she totally blanks you afterwards. It does not endear me to return to that girl again for a further session. Diana and Janine falls into this category.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1960959]See attached advert from Oase. Please just focus on the picture of the black haired girl and not that it is an Oase advert. I just thought to me that the black haired woman's look was very similar to Anya at Sharks for those wanting to locate her or at least understand what she looks like.[/QUOTE]You mean Anja with tattoo on back? Agree for tits but not for face. Anja has beautiful eyes. Easy to find with her tattoo and long black hair.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1960933]....This forum is about sharing information so other members are aware.
It also appears you have no problem with Sirioja's statement below about freedom, objecting to censorship or preventing suppression of information.[/QUOTE]I agreed with your statement about "forum of sharing information".
Several of my previous posts were vehemently attacked and smeared by a few guys, such as Pistons, NotSavvy, GuyFromparis, Bitumen, etc.
I will not criticize anyone's post unless he insanely attacks me.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1959005]Nobody will never say to me what to think or to do, nothing more important than freedom for me, even in brothels, if my words were not the best because usually I respect people in countries I visit, but I hate some kind of guys behavior and will never accept such behavior. I will never change my way of behavior...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1960706]Kick out is a common thing for girls at Sharks
The criteria are the following:
- Consumption of drags in the club.
- Troubles with customers and the other girls.
- See clients outside the club.
[/QUOTE]There's many other reasons.
Drug consumption (if they are not snorting coke at the bar) isn't one of them. Many girls are doing dope and cocaine. Selling drugs is another thing.
HB.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1960954]Hmm at least I doubt the drugs thing. Many club girls take cocaine also at Sharks, rough guess almost 20% of the club girls. The clubs usually know the cocaine girls as well as the cocaine clients. And usually no one get kick out for this from clubs. Even the dealers are usually well known and ofc someone earns money with this.[/QUOTE]Of course, I know many girls are doing dope and cocaine in club. The club doesn't kick out the girls because of the consumption in the club, but when they are unmasked their act in room, yes.
This is why they take precaution during consumption and use coke rather than grass that the odor spreads easily even they know the risk of addictive.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1960959]See attached advert from Oase. Please just focus on the picture of the black haired girl and not that it is an Oase advert. I just thought to me that the black haired woman's look was very similar to Anya at Sharks for those wanting to locate her or at least understand what she looks like.[/QUOTE]Anya 10 years later?
Her natural tits are more beautiful.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1959005]Nobody will never say to me what to think or to do, nothing more important than freedom for me, even in brothels
Plenty of other brothels to enjoy beautiful girls and repeat best girls weekly, as always. I will never change my way of behavior.[/QUOTE]A "never changing" system is a static, maybe even a purely mechanical machine. It is not connected to the flow of life. Sort of a rock-like behavior. So your so-called "freedom" is that of a pre-programmed machine.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1960835]She is probably in denial about her chosen profession and rationalizing it by the fact the she chooses her clients or whatever BS reason. This will change after sometime. It is not personal. She is a kid that needs to make sense of fucking and sucking for money.[/QUOTE]Quite a few girls choose clients. It is not just Janine. I have seen quite a few guys angry for being turned down lots of times. It works for the girls as long as they are fine with lower salaries. And as long as they have the options to choose. Some of the germans may even have a situation where they don't really have to do this job, and can more easily jump onto other jobs. Janine might just work for fun for all we know. One Sharks girl I know for example deffinately doesnt need to work at all, yet she does. strictly for fun. Her husband makes enough money anyway and they go on swingers parties in their spare time. Not everyone is the same you know. A girl at Artemis and others got 2 jobs also, and just keep this job as an extra because it doesnt bother them...
Besides, with me Janine has never come across as rude. She seems to be laughing, smiling and having fun all the time. Just good mood all the time... Now come with the hate please, lol :p But I know it can suck when you want to go with a girl and she tells you no. Happened to me also... and especially with one girl who is close to killing me with her lazer eyes every time she sees me. Like a femme fatale. Maybe her refusal of you even trigger you more into wanting her? Don't forget the rules of attraction...
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1961042]
This is why they take precaution during consumption and use coke rather than grass that the odor spreads easily even they know the risk of addictive.[/QUOTE]There's a lot more girls doing dope than coke. Most clubs don't care and look away, even if they are smoking. They are smoking pot after their shift to come down. In their dorms. In "designated locations".
HB.
I don't get why people delve into this Janine thing so much. Just move on if circumstances don't work out.
Notice, I'm using the world circumstance than kidding myself that it's attraction. Like there's a bunch of hunks walkin around in the club.
My curcumstance was that there was no group when she first started. She was sitting alone, and went with her for some reason. Session was boring, but if you are into the optics she's not a scamming biatch or tries to give you a shitty time. Very standard session. Good enough for some I suppose.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1961042]Of course, I know many girls are doing dope and cocaine in club. The club doesn't kick out the girls because of the consumption in the club, but when they are unmasked their act in room, yes.
This is why they take precaution during consumption and use coke rather than grass that the odor spreads easily even they know the risk of addictive.[/QUOTE]Don't ask don't tell is probably the overarching principle but I was told by a despondent Oase girl that her boss had put his foot down, warning any girl seen doing drugs would get the sack. Of course a manager would warn girls like this only because he himself was under pressure from the cops to issue such a warning.
Some posters here have imagined future horror scenarios with cops kicking in the door to ckeck for condom use. This is not likely to ever happen for condom usage but for drugs it is a real possibility. Still, the cops will usually be content to net users when they raid the club for "taxes" or set up roadbclocks somewhere not far from the club.
I've often wondered whether VIP rooms and the like offered some shielding regarding not quite lawful goings on inside. I would guess not, seeing as this is Germany and not Indonesia.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1961093]Quite a few girls choose clients. It is not just Janine. I have seen quite a few guys angry for being turned down lots of times. It works for the girls as long as they are fine with lower salaries. And as long as they have the options to choose. Some of the germans may even have a situation where they don't really have to do this job, and can more easily jump onto other jobs. Janine might just work for fun for all we know. One Sharks girl I know for example deffinately doesnt need to work at all, yet she does. strictly for fun. Her husband makes enough money anyway and they go on swingers parties in their spare time. Not everyone is the same you know. A girl at Artemis and others got 2 jobs also, and just keep this job as an extra because it doesnt bother them...
Besides, with me Janine has never come across as rude. She seems to be laughing, smiling and having fun all the time. Just good mood all the time... Now come with the hate please, lol :p But I know it can suck when you want to go with a girl and she tells you no. Happened to me also... and especially with one girl who is close to killing me with her lazer eyes every time she sees me. Like a femme fatale. Maybe her refusal of you even trigger you more into wanting her? Don't forget the rules of attraction...[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more. Yes a vast majority is there for the money, but a select few actually like the job. It's funny to me that some punters can't accept that some women actually enjoys sex and want it more than men. Do these punters get off on the idea that the wg they're fucking hates it? Let the lucky few select their clients, and be happy if she picked you because she likes you and don't need a few little euros.
Friday at Sharks is described as too many girls!
It is like last Friday at Sharks with the place swarming with girls. No where to sit aince there was so many girls hunting the fewer men in the club.
Sharks has so much variety.
On the list is:
Rebecca the blonde with firm boobs and no tattoos.
Yvette the dark blonde as she is so much life and full of enerfy. She looks like she would go like a frog in a sock. Especially of you buy her shots.
Roxanna always wants Vodka and Red Bull.
Alexia the blonde with blue streaks and the deep tan on her slim body that does not hunt much looks well worth a bookings.
Then there is Ruby who looks well horny with blonde good looks and a reputation of a tight pussy that needs you to stuff your cock into like a magician does his never ending scarf into his fist as a oart of his magic act.
So many choices to make.
Scratch Anya. There are too many other choices.
You named 5 girls. Just saying. Lots? : s
Did you even go with them? I do wonder, does Alexia look better with green or blue stripes?
[QUOTE=Pistons;1961350]You named 5 girls. Just saying. Lots? : s
And you just named them. Did you even go with them?[/QUOTE]The girls are on my fuck list. I am not a Sikh that fuck 10 girls in 5 hours. Are you a Sikh?
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1961351]The girls are on my fuck list. I am not a Sikh that fuck 10 girls in 5 hours. Are you a Sikh?[/QUOTE]Well I assume this was last night. So did you enter last night only to make a list of girls you are going to fuck later today? : p.
225 girls is what the reception said were working yesterday.
HB.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1961353]Well I assume this was last night. So did you enter last night only to make a list of girls you are going to fuck later today? : p.[/QUOTE]Sometimes when too many girls, I was said 170 girls on a Thursday? Maybe not even 170 visitors all along a Thursday, you can't choose. Last Saturday, my problem was to find a second attractive girl after Megan. Steffi is my type but no GF illusion, also not enough with Anja even friendly like Steffi. Elisabet didn't look as attractive as on Monday. No white skin blond seen on Monday. Of course, no not kissing, CBJ, even model look, but not my level to dream. Maybe could have tried smiling Ameli, but a bit average look to run. Quantity is not quality, I stayed 15 hours with only 1 room finished at 2 pm. Fortunately, a classy Madeleine at GT on Sunday, even only about 40 girls. On 7 October, I could have gone with 10 girls out of 40 , at LR. Times changed.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1961365]225 girls is what the reception said were working yesterday.
HB.[/QUOTE]Sounds like Sharks just made new records these days. Never heard anywhere 200+ has been mentionned before. I really wonder how this is going to pan out.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1961365]225 girls is what the reception said were working yesterday.
HB.[/QUOTE]Wow. At one time? By your count does that number seem accurate?
How many rooms does Sharks have? 50?
Out of 225 girls and maybe 500 total on roster we only hear about 20-30 girl's names over and over again.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1961373]Wow. At one time? By your count does that number seem accurate?
How many rooms does Sharks have? 50?[/QUOTE]They never count 'at the same time'. So it is throughout the day. Still alot though, LOL. But it probably means way over 150 girls at peak...
Sharks has around 30-35 rooms without the outside huts which are too cold in Winter. 150-180 at the same time may be right. Too many. Too many new average looking girls with so and so service.
HB.
So where is Stella guys?
[QUOTE=Pistons;1961372]Sounds like Sharks just made new records these days. Never heard anywhere 200+ has been mentionned before. I really wonder how this is going to pan out.[/QUOTE]Megan told me couple weeks ago that there were 200+ girls on one of the day. I didn't really believe her then as I figure it was through out the day. Plus someone told me a different number like 175 (they probably asked the reception at a different time).
Yeah, competition is fierce and unless they are a top girls or have regular there won't be much business. I feel bad for the girls. As there should be some sort of screening or limitation of accepting new girls. But I guess Sharks only care about bottom line as more girls equal more entry fees.
Can't wait to go back. Even though I always go with the same girls. LOL.
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;1961412]
Yeah, competition is fierce and unless they are a top girls or have regular there won't be much business. I feel bad for the girls. As there should be some sort of screening or limitation of accepting new girls. But I guess Sharks only care about bottom line as more girls equal more entry fees.
Can't wait to go back. Even though I always go with the same girls. LOL.[/QUOTE]I know. : (
Had a girl crying there last time after I told her sorry, and no for the 2nd time. It hurts to see so many of them get rejected so much. But what can we do about it? Send in an application to our governments to get a higher mongering budget telling them we are on a socialist mission spreading the wealth on a more diverse range of girls? I have a bad feeling about such an application. Those politicians never understand the girls. And besides, it would have been really hard work for us too! : /.
(Sorry for the joking, but it really got to me...)
As far as I can tell from the market at Sharks, 225 girls is way too much and probably 100 of those girls will have trouble making more than 150 a day in average... if even that much. So alot of them won't even make money from this. I don't get it. I really don't...
There has been the same inflation of girls going on at Artemis for the past few years, but there it stopped at around 150-180 at the peak weekends only to fall again before a new peak period starts to grow...
[QUOTE=Pistons;1961430]I know. : (
Had a girl crying there last time after I told her sorry, and no for the 2nd time. It hurts to see so many of them get rejected so much. But what can we do about it? Send in an application to our governments to get a higher mongering budget telling them we are on a socialist mission spreading the wealth on a more diverse range of girls? I have a bad feeling about such an application. Those politicians never understand the girls. And besides, it would have been really hard work for us too! : /.
(Sorry for the joking, but it really got to me...)
As far as I can tell from the market at Sharks, 225 girls is way too much and probably 100 of those girls will have trouble making more than 150 a day in average... if even that much. So alot of them won't even make money from this. I don't get it. I really don't...
There has been the same inflation of girls going on at Artemis for the past few years, but there it stopped at around 150-180 at the peak weekends only to fall again before a new peak period starts to grow...[/QUOTE]The demand is lower that the offer, nothing new the market will regulate by himself and maybe it is better for the girls to find a another way to earn money.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1961397]So where is Stella guys?[/QUOTE]I thought the smiling dark blond German, not slim, with an arm full of tattoos, MILF look, was Stella. Seen on Monday and Saturday at Sharks. Maybe I mistook, I only saw Stella once on 10 May 2014 for my single Palace visit.
I'm planning to stop by at Sharks during a 17 h layover at Frankfurt. What's the best way to get there with public transport? How much would a taxicab cost? I'm trying to read all your awesome reports to figure out which girls to avoid and which ones to look for.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;1961412]Megan told me couple weeks ago that there were 200+ girls on one of the day. I didn't really believe her then as I figure it was through out the day. Plus someone told me a different number like 175 (they probably asked the reception at a different time).
Yeah, competition is fierce and unless they are a top girls or have regular there won't be much business. I feel bad for the girls. As there should be some sort of screening or limitation of accepting new girls. But I guess Sharks only care about bottom line as more girls equal more entry fees.
Can't wait to go back. Even though I always go with the same girls. LOL.[/QUOTE]Its well known that Sharks allows far too many girls. So average looking new girls will know in advance that they cannot possibly succeed without great charm and persistence. They last such a short time and give up mostly I think since turn over is very high. Its tougher on the old girls, I think, to see the customers so curious to try new girls, instead of sticking to known good service girls.
The old girls will love you for sticking to them and ignoring all the so so newcomers.
In Oase, there is no room wait problems yet girls still suffer certain very quiet days. Even the very most popular girls can experience a quiet day at Oase. Meanwhile I think the very most popular girls at Sharks can still do okay. Average to good girls, maybe not.
What is the remedy for the girls? I don't know since there are just too many hookers and too many clubs. Even ugly girls think they can be a hooker. Seemed to work out okay For them at World for years. World was the club with easily the most ugly girls that I attended regularly, however I concentrated on the pretty girls.
While clubs and girls increase, surely the total customers has been dropping over the years?
[QUOTE=Pistons;1961350]You named 5 girls. Just saying. Lots? : s
Did you even go with them? I do wonder, does Alexia look better with green or blue stripes?[/QUOTE]What's eating you? Seems to be a totally pointless response to Bitumen posting some girls that appealed to him and on his "to do" list?
50% of his list appealed to me too, or already tried. 50% did not. No big deal. Personal taste.
Are you trying to make a competition with him in some way, or belittle? I don't get it.
Is there a problem because he has writing skills? Maybe you win the competition for attending Sharks more frequently. Does anyone care?
Maybe your English is not good enough for me to really understand your intent, but the post doesn't look friendly. Looks more smart ass style. Anyway I think you can be much better than that. Looking forward to good girl information posts. Sure we all fail to make posts useful at times, but we should really try.
I hope this post is useful to make guys think before they make an inane reply. Its is not necessary to reply to a post, unless we have something useful, right?
[quote]Well I assume this was last night. So did you enter last night only to make a list of girls you are going to fuck later today? : p.[/quote]There you go again.
Could have been any Friday or maybe several days. Why the F do you care? Some guys deliberately do not specify exactly when they attended as they wish to be anonymous. However you need to persue them?
He won't list all girls he fucked on a specific date to make himself identifiable (that is one reason why I got so well known and now post sparingly).
Are you trying to audit every move of another customer? Concentrate on the girls! Mind your own business instead of that of others.
P.S. You haven't learned how to make smilies work just yet. :D
Hope you get out of the bed on the right side (for good mood) tomorrow. Engage brain before posting. By all means give some good publicity for girls who deserve it. Think of gaining respect from the readers.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1961353]Well I assume this was last night. So did you enter last night only to make a list of girls you are going to fuck later today? : p.[/QUOTE]Reports later. You do not have to read them.
Syz: You are so serious. Like the FBI, or a SJW? You seem to be good at reading words, but perhaps not as good at pUrsuing the intent of what lies behind. I found his post to be written quite fracturred, not too consise. Good or bad writing? I don't know. Perhaps it was a funny way of asking if he had actually been with any of the girls? And not just made a list of who he considerred? Perhaps it was an underlying question weather or not there was a misunderstanding in his post. Had he, or had he not been with any of those girls? Not to brag about weather or not you had been with the girls in question, as you seem to put it, but as a question as to what he thought of those girls once in the room as well? You seem to be a bit full on assumptions sometimes Syz. Calm down and eat a biscuit 😉
This forum is not about math algebra .or serious world problems. Lets take it a bit more relaxed? ☺
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1961365]225 girls is what the reception said were working yesterday.
HB.[/QUOTE]WoooW.
Can't wait to come and see, will be there 2nd week of December.
Hope these girls will figure out how to pleasure the guys not just take $ out of them. When they make guys happy they will spend more on the girls and both sides will be happy Just hope these girls will figure this hahahaha.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1961578]Syz: You are so serious. Like the FBI, or a SJW? You seem to be good at reading words, but perhaps not as good at pursuing the intent of what lies behind. I found his post to be written quite fracturred, not too consise. Good or bad writing? I don't know. Perhaps it was a funny way of asking if he had actually been with any of the girls? And not just made a list of who he considerred? Perhaps it was an underlying question weather or not there was a misunderstanding in his post. Had he, or had he not been with any of those girls?[/QUOTE]I did say I found your intent very difficult to ascertain. Your post suffers from being far too concise like a Twitter comment. However read your own questions again, like "Lots?". and the subsequent absurd question about entering Sharks just to make a list. That is extremely clear as a satirical smart ass question to a native English speaker.
If you don't find such satirical questions as being smart ass, then you may be a little strange. Some people think they are funny to ask these questions, but I think it generally comes across badly.
It was a "to do" list. He wrote "on the list is:" etc. His English is way better than yours or mine, even if he he is deliberately vague at times whether he fucked the girls or not. He did not write a review of each girl. That seemed to imply they were probably not yet fucked.
If you want to ask a simple innocent question, try not to write it in a satirical (or sarcastic) clearly absurd smart ass way, is my suggestion. If someone writes completely inane posts, I do like to have a crack at them. Ask innocent questions about girls, of the forum in general, not who some other customer fucked, which is his private business to publish as he feels like it.
No one is asking who your fucked and on which day.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1961582]
If you want to ask a simple innocent question, try not to write it in a satirical (or sarcastic) clearly absurd smart ass way, is my suggestion. If someone writes completely inane posts, I do like to have a crack at them.[/QUOTE]There you go at the last sentence. But am I really the only one in here finding most of the posts on this forum to be quite absurd and silly? Ofcourse I am satirical. Like way over 50% of the time in here. Like Mr. Ho is 95% of the time. I don't think I have made any attempts at hiding this either. Who you feel is the better writer among the posters is all on you, and your own e-peen discussion. Not very interesting to me. I find badly written texts sometimes to be better written than standardized texts. Perhaps you would understand if you get aquainted with Singlish, or other forms of quasi english. Yes, self irony brings you a long way. And it might help you stress down a bit too ☺
PS: It seems you understood me quite well. The absurdity of the comment about entering Sharks just to make a list, was ment to be: absurdity (lol)
If you can't see the humor in such absurdities, then out of the box thinking might be a good form of mental practise. But after all your lists, I am sure the humor must have gotten to you at least once. I am sure you must admit that...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surreal_humour
[QUOTE=Pistons;1961584]There you go at the last sentence. But am I really the only one in here finding most of the posts on this forum to be quite absurd and silly? Ofcourse I am satirical. Like way over 50% of the time in here. [/QUOTE]Over use of sarcasm gets very irritating, as is the device of choice of smart asses, with no real humor. So if you want to become an irritating rather than funny poster, go ahead. You may well be already on many guys lists of irritating posters. I haven't been following the threads that closely, so I don't remember how silly Mr. Ho's posts may have been or not.
Anyway you can't get away with asking "innocent questions" using sarcasm. You just rub people up the wrong way.
Yes a lot of posts on hear are silly. Bitumen is clearly trying to be better than that and painting a generally positive outlook without sarcasm as his main device.
My comment about engaging brain before posting, still applies.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1961588]
My comment about engaging brain before posting, still applies.[/QUOTE]And my comment about social justice warriors still applies also. Bitumen has shown to be a smartass in the past also, so if you play the game, stay with the rules.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1961600]And my comment about social justice warriors still applies also. Bitumen has shown to be a smartass in the past also, so if you play the game, stay with the rules.[/QUOTE]A ha. So your real object was payback and not to ask an innocent question at all (as was very clear). To win the biggest smart ass competition, perhaps. I did not notice his track record.
The higher the frequency of sarcasm, the more irritating and smart ass, in my my view. I really try to avoid it myself, and just say straight exactly what I mean if I can. I think he largely is an innocent poster, and attacks guys mainly over racist issues from memory (not a problem). Maybe he attacks guys writing complete drivel too? I would not object to that. However I do dislike sarcasm over used, so I might do a bit of a check for fun, unless you can provide the clear examples of his smart ass uncalled for comments.
Not payback. It is not a competition. But maybe it ment he had some humor too. As clearly the social justice warriors who doesn't, otherwise would jump. Like you so clearly have demonstrated here. 😉
About humor, it is a science actually. Like in Cards Against Humanity, after awhile the illogical surreal jokes allways win.
To me, this forum is like an Olive Garden: When you're here, you're speaking fake french 😀
Then it is onto Sharks for the main event.
So many girls are in the club. This is a problem for the girls; the normative conclusion is that there will be a high turnover in the girls. Most will not last.
There were a few blondes sitting in the spot where [B] Roxanna [/B] sits. I already know friendly blonde [B]Dora[/B] and femme fatale blonde [B] Diana [/B] who are also in that vicinity but these blondes were not those two girls. The unknown blondes were not stunning enough to really pull my eye.
The prettiest girls I noticed were:
Slim, large natural breasted, brown haired [B] Nastia [/B] that has been in the club working now three weeks is a highlight for her looks. She is limited in her services as has been reported on before. Time will tell if she changes her habits to include BBBJ and at least provide some light kisses or whether she continues to consider herself above providing these standard services. What would be more alarming is [B] Nastia [/B] influencing other girls to follow her leader in that she continues to be paid the same as them for providing lesser service levels.
Quietly sitting is reddish brown haired [B] Sascha [/B] who sits with [B] Sidonia [/B] at the couches by the money lockers. [B] Sascha [/B] has a slight stand-off demeanour which does not endear me to engage her. I do like to look at her. The other thing that puts me off her is that she wears a one piece body suit that hides her pussy. This offends my FKK sentiments so also puts me off booking [B] Sascha [/B].
There is small blonde [B] Sidonia [/B], who has heavy breasts for her size. [B] Sidonia [/B] has a writing tattoo down the spine of her back. She sits by the sofas near the money lockers.
For some reason [B] Cosmina [/B] the blonde with a magnificent ass when she bends over; I do not get much chance with [B] Cosmina [/B] as she is constantly booked by one Japanese man who I can only surmise is local as I see him each week at sharks in the company of [B] Cosmina [/B] and [B] Evita [/B] when she is around as well.
[B] Rebeccca [/B] with no tattoos, long straight blonde hair, a well-kept young body and has magnificent high breasts. She is a newer girl whose look appeals to me, but I have not been with her since there are more stunning girls to try.
[B] Yellis [/B] the friend of [B][/B]Rebecca it seems and maybe associated with [B] Brenda [/B] (formerly Leya or Lea) the natural F cup girl with the slim frame.
[B] Brenda [/B] (ex-Lea or Leya) is the slim girl with natural F cup breasts. She gets some guys real horny as she wears stockings. [B] Brenda [/B] has been fucked a few times and she is restrictive. She has her favorite positions and these do not seem to be mine. She can squeal in doggy that she does not want to do the on all fours position. She was always remembered for her excellent and prolonged kissing which seemed to make up for the other bad points. There are swings and round-abouts with [B]Brenda [/B] including her perfect swinging tits and slim legs combination. I like slim legs and big tits too like most guys.
[B] Patricia [/B] is a long haired blonde. She had saggy tits and a saggy ass but now she has silicone boob replacements for her naturals. In the room she can be good. She is ex World girl if I recall correct. I sometimes spot [B] Patricia [/B] from across the room and wonder who that great looking girl is then I focus in and ask the guy next to me who the girl in the red lingerie is and he reminds it [B] Patricia [/B] and I deflate and realise I know who it is and I go back to sleep again. Sometimes the dimness of the lighting in Sharks is deceiving.
[B] Kaira [/B] the Serbian blonde with the silicone boobs and enhanced lips is another girl that attracts with the lingerie accoutrements like maybe a waist wrap, hold up stockings or a fish net body stocking. She does have the San Fernando Valley porn star look down pat.
[B] Janine de [/B], of course, she is not always there. [B] Janine [/B] with the long brown hair and blue eyes and fabulous tear drop shaped tits. DATY in my experience is allowed but then she shuts this down and rubs off the saliva like it is some type of acid that has been accidentally spilled there. The kissing is also limited in my experience too. There is the challenge to get [B] Janine [/B] horny for her to be more participatory in the session. It is beyond my ken.
[B] Ruby [/B], who has her hair long and wavy in style instead of the more tomboy look of a short haired little 8 year boy. As said before she has a tight pussy and at times it is like you are bending your cock to get inside there and need to stuff your cock in bit by bit like putting a jack back into its box.
On reflection, to me the Sharks best girls are mainly blondes and Oase's best lookers are not blonde so much, especially with some good looking girls moving to Sharks. [B]Beatrice[/B] moved to Sharks but has not been seen in September, October and so far in November and [B] Christina [/B] ex Oase having moved to the smaller Rom club, to be the Queen of the castle at that club and now called [B]Daniella[/B].
There is the new [B] Pamela [/B] who is slim, tanned skin, blond haired with silicone breasts and tattoos on her ass, about 1. 70 m. But she is not the same as the previous [B] Pamela [/B] from Croatia.
[B] Hanna [/B] the black haired girl who is quiet is a good session but she did not reach the must repeat echelon. She did perform much better than expected and actually objectively should be the highlight of one of my visit days but somehow the connection was not there and also the type of look that I go for. [B] Hanna [/B] gives a prolonged DFK, a decent BBBJ, and multi-positional sex where she participates in an engaged manner and continues to DFK.
[B] Mandy [/B] the German girl from Stuttgart is petite with dyed blonde hair. She seems to work only days finishing off at around 6:30 pm and works off days here and there. Today there was not a long line of German guys standing at the locker room door waiting for her to finish cleaning up after the previous client. The main point is that she is constantly booked so for her maybe 7. 5 hour shift she is booked back to back with very short windows of inactivity. With her occasion extras like CIM and maybe tips from foreigners since it is a mantra that Germans do not tips then each of those 7. 5 hours counts. [B] Mandys [/B] service is impeccable. She kisses and fondles on the couch for extended periods before going to the room. I definitely will be booking her again and it is great to have foreknowledge of her appearances.
[B] Kathi [/B] is another great one for an engaging personality. She has black hair and has a pretty face. She is the type of girl that could be your best friend in my opinion. As much as I like to talk to her, I also like her in the room.
[B] Chris [/B] or ex Neya from World, the blonde, and the California look which [B] Sirioja [/B] espouses which I cannot see at all. [B] Chris [/B] is friendly and has experience of the business from her many years. In the room she is active but services are limited to no anal from what I know.
[B] Yvette [/B], has dark blonde hair, petite and is a lot of fun when you feed her habit, amongst others, of wanting shots. In my experience, I can see why she is scarce on the floor as she is booked relatively regularly. I have to get back there to experience more of her.
Of a similar size as [B] Yvette [/B] is [B] Mila [/B], another slim bodied, dark blonde, with a cheeky manner to her, an open mouth kisser and a girl to get into the porno blowjob. She has firm breasts that are joyful handfuls and an ass that I enjoy to grope and caress. She gets the CIM bonus each time I have been with her. I may need to stop that one getting away from me as the euros flow from my wallet into her purse.
[B]Alexia [/B], another blonde, but platinum about it; she has a slim body, tanned all over body; the feeling is that there can more if you go back to her. The kissing was restrictive and could be much better. She is ex Golden Time in Vienna. She can be annoyed I found if you do not book her again the next opportunity that you may have to do so.
[B]Ester[/B] is one that when given incentive improves the service. She can be identified by the bowtie or trap she has around her neck and her slight red gold in her hair. She is taller girl and has a firm body but not large breasts. She does CIM. There is a manner to her that does not gel well with me but I like her look.
It is good to know where deportees have gone too.
I like my stays in Frankfurt. It is such a vibrant and exciting city. There is the ability to get something to eat in the Bahnhof area and the shopping opportunities on the Zeil. Then there is the plentiful Italian eateries which are a delight to discover since the Italians are a sizeable minority in Germany like the Turks.
There will be more to come when I am able.
[QUOTE=Tuber19;1961580]WoooW.
Can't wait to come and see, will be there 2nd week of December.
Hope these girls will figure out how to pleasure the guys not just take $ out of them. When they make guys happy they will spend more on the girls and both sides will be happy Just hope these girls will figure this hahahaha.[/QUOTE]I don't want to calm your fantasies but thanks not to forget that they are prostitutes they want to get as much money as possible in the shortest time as possible.
Ok, I have to admit that was a pretty well done report Bitumen. Bravo!
By the way, that japanese guy together with Cosmina, could that be our japanese friend who says he is staying untill mid november? He has been mongering in Germany since early august... Or is it really a local?
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1961639]Then it is onto Sharks for the main event.
So many girls are in the club. This is a problem for the girls; the normative conclusion is that there will be a high turnover in the girls. Most will not last.
There were a few blondes sitting in the spot where [B] Roxanna [/B] sits. I already know friendly blonde [B]Dora[/B] and femme fatale blonde [B] Diana [/B] who are also in that vicinity but these blondes were not those two girls. The unknown blondes were not stunning enough to really pull my eye.
The prettiest girls I noticed were:
Slim, large natural breasted, brown haired [B] Nastia [/B] that has been in the club working now three weeks is a highlight for her looks. She is limited in her services as has been reported on before. Time will tell if she changes her habits to include BBBJ and at least provide some light kisses or whether she continues to consider herself above providing these standard services. What would be more alarming is [B] Nastia [/B] influencing other girls to follow her leader in that she continues to be paid the same as them for providing lesser service levels.
There will be more to come when I am able.[/QUOTE]This Nastia girl do not give BBBJ? What? Even for one hour session?
I don't think blond with little voice, always smiling, real angel behavior, Patricia worked at World before. She never had saggy ass. Just a sweet candy in room, what I call GF illusion.
Ultra thin Paloma was at World before.
If blond, pretty face and beautiful smile, Nea is only restricted for anal, then she is much higher level than new Sharks girls with no kiss and CBJ. Nea was friend with some of my World regulars.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1961639]
Slim, large natural breasted, brown haired [B] Nastia [/B] that has been in the club working now three weeks is a highlight for her looks. She is limited in her services as has been reported on before. Time will tell if she changes her habits to include BBBJ and at least provide some light kisses or whether she continues to consider herself above providing these standard services. What would be more alarming is [B] Nastia [/B] influencing other girls to follow her leader in that she continues to be paid the same as them for providing lesser service levels.
[/QUOTE]Is she a test subject? LOL. To check how the new law will reduce or affect the gals income. u know that gals r reading this forum too rite so u prolly shouldnt mention this too much.
I suppose she tells her clients that she does cover BJ only.
BTW thanks 4 the report.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1961744]Is she a test subject? LOL. To check how the new law will reduce or affect the gals income. u know that gals r reading this forum too rite so u prolly shouldnt mention this too much.
I suppose she tells her clients that she does cover BJ only.
BTW thanks 4 the report.[/QUOTE]Even with so poor services as I was said by 2 guys, but I didn't try, so can't confirm but we all know girls can have different behavior like some tell about Janine, because she was said the best writer on internet would be too dangerous for her brothels career, even with not exceptional face, but beautiful body and tits, she was quite busy on last Saturday. Maybe some Sharks clients are not so demanding about services level or even casting level, but prefer companionship.
[QUOTE]About humor, it is a science actually. Like in Cards Against Humanity, after awhile the illogical surreal jokes allways win.[/QUOTE]No, the racist jokes always win in CaH, LOL.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1961744]Is she a test subject? LOL. To check how the new law will reduce or affect the gals income. u know that gals r reading this forum too rite so u prolly shouldnt mention this too much.
I suppose she tells her clients that she does cover BJ only.
BTW thanks 4 the report.[/QUOTE]I do not think [B] Nastia ro [/B] is a test subject by design. From my conversation with her and the feedback from club friends I know who have also gone to the room with her is that she is not prepared to perform BBBJ and not to kiss her clients. She did say before going to the room that she did not kiss. I do not recall the status of blowjob prior to the room, but in the room it was more certain that uncovered blowjob was not on offer. This same service level was confirmed by the other club friends who also suffered the same result.
If anything [B] Nastia ro[/B] come 1 July 2017 could be the idealized model of a FKK service girl as the standard as you suggest.
Yes, I am aware that many girls read this forum. I have even seen girls reading this forum their phones. The writings of [B] Sirioja [/B] stand out as prime examples to some girls who are not that happy about what he writes.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1961562]Its well known that Sharks allows far too many girls. So average looking new girls will know in advance that they cannot possibly succeed without great charm and persistence. They last such a short time and give up mostly I think since turn over is very high. Its tougher on the old girls, I think, to see the customers so curious to try new girls, instead of sticking to known good service girls.
The old girls will love you for sticking to them and ignoring all the so so newcomers.
In Oase, there is no room wait problems yet girls still suffer certain very quiet days. Even the very most popular girls can experience a quiet day at Oase. Meanwhile I think the very most popular girls at Sharks can still do okay. Average to good girls, maybe not.
What is the remedy for the girls? I don't know since there are just too many hookers and too many clubs. Even ugly girls think they can be a hooker. Seemed to work out okay For them at World for years. World was the club with easily the most ugly girls that I attended regularly, however I concentrated on the pretty girls.
While clubs and girls increase, surely the total customers has been dropping over the years?[/QUOTE]Don't believe everything Megan says. After all she is a 19 yr old female provider with limited brain processing capacity. Sharks cannot intake 200 girls at one time.
Total customers increases especially with tourists, but at a rate far below the rate of increase in hookers. So, the money pool per hooker is smaller, hence you point is valid. But, lets not forget that many of the girls that come to sharks are over the hill hookers from other clubs that have no work and many sub par girls that I am surprised that management allows in. Number of girls increases, but overall quality declines. IMO. Time to shop for new clubs.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1961562]Its well known that Sharks allows far too many girls. So average looking new girls will know in advance that they cannot possibly succeed without great charm and persistence. They last such a short time and give up mostly I think since turn over is very high. Its tougher on the old girls, I think, to see the customers so curious to try new girls, instead of sticking to known good service girls.
The old girls will love you for sticking to them and ignoring all the so so newcomers.
In Oase, there is no room wait problems yet girls still suffer certain very quiet days. Even the very most popular girls can experience a quiet day at Oase. Meanwhile I think the very most popular girls at Sharks can still do okay. Average to good girls, maybe not.
What is the remedy for the girls? I don't know since there are just too many hookers and too many clubs. Even ugly girls think they can be a hooker. Seemed to work out okay For them at World for years. World was the club with easily the most ugly girls that I attended regularly, however I concentrated on the pretty girls.
While clubs and girls increase, surely the total customers has been dropping over the years?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1961200]Friday at Sharks is described as too many girls!
It is like last Friday at Sharks with the place swarming with girls. No where to sit aince there was so many girls hunting the fewer men in the club.
Sharks has so much variety.
On the list is:.[/QUOTE]Alexia us very good service. Fucks and suck like an energizer bunny.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1961477]I thought the smiling dark blond German, not slim, with an arm full of tattoos, MILF look, was Stella. Seen on Monday and Saturday at Sharks. Maybe I mistook, I only saw Stella once on 10 May 2014 for my single Palace visit.[/QUOTE]Description fits Stella, but others, for example HB, claims she was seen at Palace on those days. Confusion about who is Stella or maybe Stella has a super power?
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1961744]Is she a test subject? LOL. To check how the new law will reduce or affect the gals income. u know that gals r reading this forum too rite so u prolly shouldnt mention this too much.
[/QUOTE]The forum rules do not allow chat room style abbreviated writing. I am surprised a moderator has not pulled you up as yet.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1961639]
Quietly sitting is reddish brown haired [B] Sascha [/B] who sits with [B] Sidonia [/B] at the couches by the money lockers. [B] Sascha [/B] has a slight stand-off demeanour which does not endear me to engage her. I do like to look at her. The other thing that puts me off her is that she wears a one piece body suit that hides her pussy. This offends my FKK sentiments so also puts me off booking [B] Sascha [/B].
[/QUOTE]You are talking tall (high heels) slim Sascha (hanging with Sidonia), right? Sascha's pussy was certainly on display on my recent visit. I admired it. Sascha was mostly standing and rarely sitting, sometimes doing a circuit. I would certainly take her if full on kissing was guaranteed. However I got weak service from her in the distant past, with exact reason not very clear to me. Maybe something from club gossip.
Very good report though.
Why did you compare Ruby to a tomboy? Doesn't seem apt for a rather pretty, sexy curvy slim girl. Was there a previous strange hairstyle?
[QUOTE=Pistons;1961610]Not payback. It is not a competition. But maybe it ment he had some humor too. As clearly the social justice warriors who doesn't, otherwise would jump. Like you so clearly have demonstrated here. 😉
About humor, it is a science actually. Like in Cards Against Humanity, after awhile the illogical surreal jokes allways win.
[/QUOTE]Good humor is no science. It's an art that I don't even try to possess. Those who are extremely unfunny, try to use the simple device of saying something opposite or absurd, and kid themselves that they are actually funny. To a logical person, being completely illogical is not funny, merely dumb.
I only found one slightly satirical comment from Bitumen to you, re you had assumed that all German Pimps in the Statistics he quoted were actually Turkish. Seems a silly assumption. He rightly pointed out that they were born in Germany, therefore German, and number with Turkish parents was not included in the Stats. So this is what he "dished out" or was it he had a different opinion of Janine as he reported her to be somewhat rude?
Bitumen is producing some good positive reports, and he does not really compete in the smart-ass category at all, and uses sarcasm very little. His style of humor comes from exuberance, I would say. Not at all irritating to read.
I really would like to see more fun type reports of this style, and much less smart ass one or two-liner put-down tweets.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1961839]You are talking tall (high heels) slim Sascha (hanging with Sidonia), right? Sascha's pussy was certainly on display on my recent visit. I admired it. Sascha was mostly standing and rarely sitting, sometimes doing a circuit. I would certainly take her if full on kissing was guaranteed. However I got weak service from her in the distant past, with exact reason not very clear to me. Maybe something from club gossip.
Very good report though.
Why did you compare Ruby to a tomboy? Doesn't seem apt for a rather pretty, sexy curvy slim girl. Was there a previous strange hairstyle?[/QUOTE]Well, a few of the girls have very high 20 centimeter heels. But this Sascha is the one that hangs out with small Sidonia on the arm chair facing into the main lounge at the 4 sofas near the money lockers and where the German regular crew hang out. To me she has brown hair with a reddish tint. Many times I have seen her in a body suit where the body suit covers her pussy area and just goes topless.
Yes, Sascha does goes around for a circuit leaving little Sidonia to sit alone at the arm chair.
My experience of Sascha is as you describe as well. I will not go back to Sascha unless I receive better intel on her service. I am even unsure whether offering a minimum level of income like Craiova is oft to state would change the situation. Sascha is a good looker in my book and I would like to do more with her.
Ruby from how I have known her over the Spring and Summer months had a short haired boy's look which was transformed when she got the long wavy blonde locks. I like her current look as it makes me horny and more like a woman as Sirioja is oft to say. What at times puts me off how really slim Ruby is. Not as slim as Paloma who is anorexic looking but enough that she is tight and having a boyish figure with no curves. This is why I liken her to having a boy's body as she is flat like a paddle.
I hope that answers the questions.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1961866]
Ruby from how I have known her over the Spring and Summer months had a short haired boy's look which was transformed when she got the long wavy blonde locks. I like her current look as it makes me horny and more like a woman as Sirioja is oft to say. What at times puts me off how really slim Ruby is. Not as slim as Paloma who is anorexic looking but enough that she is tight and having a boyish figure with no curves. This is why I liken her to having a boy's body as she is flat like a paddle.
I hope that answers the questions.[/QUOTE]Now I am really confused. I wonder if you refer to a different girl. Perhaps just our eyes vary. Ruby always had long blonde hair in my visits, however I did go missing for about 3 months or so. Looks slightly like Paloma, but not quite so slim and prettier face. Very good high tits (maybe even almost a B cup), certainly not a flat or straight figure, despite being overall quite slim. Good waist to to thigh ratio. Often wears a black neck band. To say Ruby had no curves would be clearly very silly in my view. Straight body and slim are two different things. She looks very nicely curved doing doggy, but certainly no big ass. A girl does not need to be voluptuous to say she has nice curves, right?
I first reviewed Ruby session on 12 June, however did not describe her body in detail at the time. Definitely very slim arms. Otherwise nice curves for me. 2nd prettiest girl I saw last visit after Nastia (to my taste).
Janine is an example of a girl with weak waist to thigh ratio as her thighs are not very broad, however no one notices due to her great tits. For an excellent example of a girl with straightish body, you must go to Elliz / Ellis / Alice. She has minimal tits and quite weak waist to thigh ratio. I still like her, but she is an exception where I normally take girls with more curves.
In the past people have described Roxana and also Cindy(EriKarla) as being rather straight bodied, however their eyes deceived them, as both girls had quite good waist to thigh ratios despite being slim. Maybe Ruby's slimness also deceives the eye.
There was an extremely straight bodied scrawny aggressive girl in the past, but the name escapes me right now.
Who is the short haired blonde withreall boyish look hisyear? The winner is Emina(Bosnia)
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1961839]You are talking tall (high heels) slim Sascha (hanging with Sidonia), right? Sascha's pussy was certainly on display on my recent visit. I admired it. Sascha was mostly standing and rarely sitting, sometimes doing a circuit. I would certainly take her if full on kissing was guaranteed. However I got weak service from her in the distant past, with exact reason not very clear to me. Maybe something from club gossip.[/QUOTE]I got three rooms with Sascha since March. I do not repeat with the girl if session is just OK. I repeat only if session will be remembered. Also I can repeat if the session is a little bit better than OK but I got chemistry to the particular girls. Sascha is the second case. All three sessions were OK+, but I like her look and attitude. She is kissing with me. Real DFK. First two room DIGITS were allowed but third one not. This maybe stopped me from taking her again.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1961791]Don't believe everything Megan says. After all she is a 19 yr old female provider with limited brain processing capacity. Sharks cannot intake 200 girls at one time.
[/QUOTE]Megan is a crafty girl. She knows how to change her speech and her service according to the client. At the moment, I am very satisfied with her.
But this 225 girls story is a common number spoken by all girls.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1961888]But this 225 girls story is a common number spoken by all girls.[/QUOTE]Girls tend to exaggerate number of WG in the club. This is the way how they complain on heavy competition.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1961791]Don't believe everything Megan says. After all she is a 19 yr old female provider with limited brain processing capacity. Sharks cannot intake 200 girls at one time.
Total customers increases especially with tourists, but at a rate far below the rate of increase in hookers. So, the money pool per hooker is smaller, hence you point is valid. But, lets not forget that many of the girls that come to sharks are over the hill hookers from other clubs that have no work and many sub par girls that I am surprised that management allows in. Number of girls increases, but overall quality declines. IMO. Time to shop for new clubs.[/QUOTE]For me. I will go to a club with less girls but with higher percentage quality. After all, how many girls can you fuck in one day?
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1961909]Girls tend to exaggerate number of WG in the club. This is the way how they complain on heavy competition.[/QUOTE]I mean it seems strange that many girls said same number of girls (225). I suppose existence of same source of information for these girls. Maybe reception? That means.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1961846]...[/QUOTE]Geez Syz, how long are you going to discuss a small 'twitter joke'? Besides, it was his post that was surreal. Not mine, get it? If you don't see that, then fine. Move on. I get it, not everyone from the last generation so easily catch up with ways of writing on the internet. You want to see everything written like an old book, or a lexicon. While the world around you change. Styles of writing in different setting change due to facebook, twitter, blogs, forums, etc etc. For some an old novel may just sound 'surreal' to read in the setting of a different modern internet arena. I get it, time changes fast. My mom or dad doesnt get anything on the internet either. Or should we spend another page or two with this senseless justice warrior drivel only for you to slap your police e-peen around a bit more trying to gain some points somewhere? Ok, if I had anybody on my list of dicks on this forum in the past for either saying silly things about me, other posters, girls etc (like Bitumen about Janine etc), I'll erase that list and only add one smartass: you ;) lol
Takedown: Problem is the lack of those cards. You end up with only surreal choices towards the end, lol :)
[QUOTE=Pistons;1962001]Geez Syz, how long are you going to discuss a small 'twitter joke'? Besides, it was his post that was surreal. Not mine, get it? If you don't see that, then fine. Move on. Or should we spend another page or two with this senseless justice warrior drivel only for you to slap your police e-peen around a bit more trying to gain some points somewhere? Ok, if I had anybody on my list of dicks on this forum in the past for either saying silly things about me, other posters, girls etc (like Bitumen about Janine etc), I'll erase that list and only add one smartass: you ;) lol
Takedown: Problem is the lack of those cards. You end up with only surreal choices towards the end, lol :)[/QUOTE]Pistons, you are needlessly cluttering up the Sharks thread with this drivel that no one cares about (as is admittedly my post here).
You do in fact come off as an ass sometimes due to your writing style (I am giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming that it is due to your writing style and that you are not in fact an ass in real life, but I must proclaim ignorance on this point in the end as I do not know you).
In any case, perhaps it's time to reexamine your writing style and reconsider how your writing might be interpreted by others. Or, you could just continue posting this nonsense back-and-forth drivel that no one care about and clutter up the the forum threads.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1962005]Pistons, you are needlessly cluttering up the Sharks thread with this drivel that no one cares about.[/QUOTE]And you are adding to it. Congratulations. (Edited my last post a bit). I know I come of as an ass sometimes. But only towards other asses...
Syz: most guys in here try to compete for the smart-ass prize. Even Bitumen ("I am not a Sikh that fuck 10 girls in 5 hours. Are you a Sikh?" I mean, what if I had been a sikh? Lol). Not to mention you... even if you are a different type of smart-ass... the type that has given up on humor. So you need to spend a wall of text trying to make the same points...
Was at Sharks on this Saturday, got in around opening time left a bit after midnight. A ton of girls but service is way down compare to just a year ago. It's actually way down compare to even early this year. Got 2 terrible terrible BBBJs with 2 girls not and only do I not remember their names but I want to forget it even happened. Only 1 girl was decent, Dalr was her name I think, cute face, brunette hair, really nice body wearing some stockings. I can't believe how terrible the 2 other girls were that it made me remember someone for just being average. Was hoping to Sandra to show up and cheer up my mood but she wasn't there. Saw the Hungarian sisters but no new Hungarian girl that was talked about here.
Also I only see girls sitting around the bar trying to get business and also the girls walking around. Plenty of girls just sitting on couches not doing anything but talking to each other. They all look too interested in each other than to put their faces up for the guys to have a good look.
Food was pretty good but I heard some girls got really sick from the food recently? I feel fine and thought it was good.
Will be back next Friday and Saturday unfortunately. Too bad there isn't any direct flights from my home to any other parts of Germany.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1961796]Description fits Stella, but others, for example HB, claims she was seen at Palace on those days. Confusion about who is Stella or maybe Stella has a super power?[/QUOTE]Idk who Sirioja saw. I can just confirm 100% that on the Monday Sirioja saw her at Sharks she was at Palace.
HB.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1962012]Too bad there isn't any direct flights from my home to any other parts of Germany.[/QUOTE]It isn't too bad bc with Frankfurt you are already together with Duesseldorf at the best place for P6.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1962269]I can just confirm 100% that on the Monday Sirioja saw her at Sharks she was at Palace.[/QUOTE]Anyway Miss no kiss Stella fits with her service better to Palace.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1962006]And you are adding to it. Congratulations. (Edited my last post a bit). I know I come of as an ass sometimes. But only towards other asses...
Syz: most guys in here try to compete for the smart-ass prize. Even Bitumen ("I am not a Sikh that fuck 10 girls in 5 hours. Are you a Sikh?" I mean, what if I had been a sikh? Lol). Not to mention you... even if you are a different type of smart-ass... the type that has given up on humor. So you need to spend a wall of text trying to make the same points...[/QUOTE]Actually Bitumen's Sikh joke got a laugh out if me. It was not sarcastic humour.
2 years back or so at Oase and possibly Sharks there was a Sikh customer with very long hair. I called him Samson the superman. He was amazing. He no sooner finished a session with one of the girls, usually a very pretty one (causing me to notice), that he would select and go off with another. Girls he did at Oase included Marie and Lavinia. Lavinia later told me he fucked for nearly the whole session. Not just sitting and yacking with the girls. Lavinia loved a bit of gossip, often complaining about customers wanting BB but Samson's reputation was good.
He rightly deserved the title of the superman for immense stamina to keep it going and immense budget I guess.
So bitumen compares us mere mortals to the famous guy with super powers I think.
Nothing derogatory at all. Merely saying he himself has lesser powers.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1962012]Was at Sharks on this Saturday, got in around opening time left a bit after midnight. A ton of girls but service is way down compare to just a year ago. It's actually way down compare to even early this year. Got 2 terrible terrible BBBJs with 2 girls not and only do I not remember their names but I want to forget it even happened. Only 1 girl was decent, Dalr was her name I think, cute face, brunette hair, really nice body wearing some stockings. I can't believe how terrible the 2 other girls were that it made me remember someone for just being average. Was hoping to Sandra to show up and cheer up my mood but she wasn't there. Saw the Hungarian sisters but no new Hungarian girl that was talked about .[/QUOTE]With so many new girls turning up, trying them just has to be a crap shoot as it always has been at Sharks. Spend time looking for chemistry and non aggressive girls can help.
My main remedy is to repeat known proven performers where possible, or try highly recommended girls if I am at all undecided.
Really over several years at Sharks, the percentae of new girls tried worth repeating can't be very high, certainly less than 30%.
Added problem is favorite girls leaving.
My current favourites list has got very short. So some new girls have to be tried, but recognise the gamble.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1962311]Nothing derogatory at all. Merely saying he himself has lesser powers.[/QUOTE]Only if you have heard your specific 2 year old story as probably just the two of you have. I've talked to simillair guys at Artemis. Normally quite young swedes on some drug (vit see, viagra etc), or just the fact that he didn't pop during any session... But change out 'sikh' with 'jew', and not many would expect there to be some hidden 2 year old story behind. Besides I found it a bit amusing also, but I am not the one here complaining about humor. Asses can be funny too sometimes. Some are fat, some are small...
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1962316]
Really over several years at Sharks, the percentae of new girls tried worth repeating can't be very high, certainly less than 30%.
Added problem is favorite girls leaving.[/QUOTE]
The less than 30% repeatable rate can be said for every club and probably has more to do about the bigger fish in the pond narrative than anything else...
Favourite girls leaving problem might have more to do with girl feuds (unfortunately probably related to the same fish in the pond narrative. or shark in the tank) and even som retarded negative internet forum reports added to the mix, creating bad environments...
[QUOTE=Pistons;1962332]Only if you have heard your specific 2 year old story as probably just the two of you have. I've talked to simillair guys at Artemis. Normally quite young swedes on some drug (vit see, viagra etc), or just the fact that he didn't pop during any session... But change out 'sikh' with 'jew', and not many would expect there to be some hidden 2 year old story behind. Besides I found it a bit amusing also, but I am not the one here complaining about humor. Asses can be funny too sometimes. Some are fat, some are small...[/QUOTE]I would have posted something on the famous Sihk in the Oase thread about two or 3 years back. Anyway not racial stuff. He just happened to be a Sihk and that is why he had "Samson" hair. We don't know his real name. He was a bit of a legend there.
There is still the underlying derogatory side of it. Even if it was you and not Bitumen who originated the story (perhaps also why you find it especially funny). Otherwise, the labelling is useless. But nobody probably cares. He responded to my silly tweet with a silly tweet of his own, without writing a book about it. The book release came a bit later, and it was not too bad (so I wrote 'Bravo').It was his marketing comment of the book that I had to tweet about, since I smelled there was more commong, LOL. The whole scenario regarding marketing a 'book' report on this forum is quite surreal or even insane to me if you take a step back and look outside this little box we have here... hope that helped in clearing up a few things for you...
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1962012]Was at Sharks on this Saturday, got in around opening time left a bit after midnight. A ton of girls but service is way down compare to just a year ago. It's actually way down compare to even early this year. Got 2 terrible terrible BBBJs with 2 girls not and only do I not remember their names but I want to forget it even happened. Only 1 girl was decent, Dalr was her name I think, cute face, brunette hair, really nice body wearing some stockings. I can't believe how terrible the 2 other girls were that it made me remember someone for just being average. Was hoping to Sandra to show up and cheer up my mood but she wasn't there. Saw the Hungarian sisters but no new Hungarian girl that was talked about here.
Also I only see girls sitting around the bar trying to get business and also the girls walking around. Plenty of girls just sitting on couches not doing anything but talking to each other. They all look too interested in each other than to put their faces up for the guys to have a good look.
Food was pretty good but I heard some girls got really sick from the food recently? I feel fine and thought it was good.
Will be back next Friday and Saturday unfortunately. Too bad there isn't any direct flights from my home to any other parts of Germany.[/QUOTE]Sharks is not the only club around Frankfurt. On Friday and Saturday, World can be not so bad after 6 pm, with at least competitive level for girls services, Mainhattan and even small Atlanta in Hanau, can also compete on these days. Oase is also improving.
Frankfurt can't compete at the moment with NRW for castings and girls behavior, and LR is higher services level than GT, for me.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1961791]Don't believe everything Megan says. After all she is a 19 yr old female provider with limited brain processing capacity. Sharks cannot intake 200 girls at one time.[/QUOTE]Soon 21. At least she is smiling pretty face with kind behavior.
1000 girls mean business become more difficult, and it is still sunny, nearly summer, weather. On Saturday, I kicked the 2 holes in the Oase garden, after experienced first snow on autobahn between Koln and FRA. But Winter will come.
Anyway, many girls even many GND, make many 100 or 120 entries, some girls sleeping now in rooms where they are fucked, before the new law to work. Good business for the club. There was American dream, now Sharks dream for WGs.
All this talk of Samson and a perpetual motion machine. Tell you what, I would take a fifth of his prowess. Perhaps the trick is indeed in the hair. Instead, with the mistaken belief nurtured no doubt by some random advice around here, I shaved my balls in an effort to please the girls, and ever since I did so, I have been performing at the level of Samson shorn of his locks. Next time, I will go in with a forest down there, and ready to bring down the temple a la Sammie.
LOL.
Alexia left for 3 weeks starting today, but she'll be back during Christmas. Nastia was there today and I agree she is the hottest one. I couldn't book her though, and may never be able to because the music in sharks is starting to make me angry. There is no reason I need to listen to the same songs ten times a day when I stay 12 hours. Same thing in living room and many other FKK. Can anyone recommend one with music that doesn't repeat? Maybe even deep house?
Going to Living Room tomorrow, and then Leipzig and artemis later this week if anyone wants advice on mongering Brazil.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1962405]All this talk of Samson and a perpetual motion machine. Tell you what, I would take a fifth of his prowess. Perhaps the trick is indeed in the hair. Instead, with the mistaken belief nurtured no doubt by some random advice around here, I shaved my balls in an effort to please the girls, and ever since I did so, I have been performing at the level of Samson shorn of his locks. Next time, I will go in with a forest down there, and ready to bring down the temple a la Sammie.
LOL.[/QUOTE]Thought you could save some energy by shaving the hair. Lets us know the result, LOL.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1961774]Yes, I am aware that many girls read this forum. I have even seen girls reading this forum their phones. The writings of [B] Sirioja [/B] stand out as prime examples to some girls who are not that happy about what he writes.[/QUOTE]Yes, many girls read us and not only at Sharks. Some guys, even members or readers of this forum, are also not happy about my writings, but when my regulars read by themselves what I write, without being bullshit by little jealous guys, then they don't ask me to stop, they know I never give details about what happens in room, and understand how my writings are positive for their business, when they were not so busy when they started and became busier, with many guys saying: You are the girl of the French. I just care about girls who attract me, but unfortunately not many since a while at Sharks. I don't care about guys, I'm not interested to speak to girls about other guys and also don't care about girls I will never pay for.
I also only believe from reliable guys, so many fakers now on this forum, also bullshiting about girls services.
For few high sexual level girls remaining, I would say: Sandra but only working a few days now, Agnes for her real woman potential, Patricia for GF illusion and sweetness, Marina. Lat when she works. Was said about Stephani. FR or Mandy but not my dream for look. So many top girls met at Sharks until Summer, so many now elsewhere, but I don't name anymore my real top girls because too many guys go to bullshit them, I remember for Danny at small Atlanta, after only 1 room, I had to show her what I wrote and then no more problem and high level second room, but it may have killed my dream.
But Sharks was the club which made the biggest improvements: larger veranda, 4 new rooms, about 15 wood chalets, new sauna, 2 new jacuzzis, 2 rooms close to new jacuzzis were really improved, also for 1 under fish, new rooms to come. So just wish they improve casting for quality, I don t care about number. Aca which was also on top for beauties 1 year ago, is also a bit down now, but on the other hand, World is a bit improving from Friday to Sunday, for night team. In some clubs with no more than 40/50 girls, You can find at least 5 top level, attractive look girls and some other beauties for eyes pleasure.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1962363]Sharks is not the only club around Frankfurt. On Friday and Saturday, World can be not so bad after 6 pm, with at least competitive level for girls services, Mainhattan and even small Atlanta in Hanau, can also compete on these days. Oase is also improving.
Frankfurt can't compete at the moment with NRW for castings and girls behavior, and LR is higher services level than GT, for me.[/QUOTE]Fully agree with you, I always consider Shark as a good club but not better than most of the other one, and sorry to repeat too dark inside for me, difficult to see the skin of the girls. Never get also great experiences in NRW clubs but may be it is my responsibility.
[QUOTE=TheVirgin;1962507] Can anyone recommend one with music that doesn't repeat? Maybe even deep house?[/QUOTE]Glad to hear I am not the only one into deep house or progressive house music. But I think we are out of luck. No clubs that I know of play much of that... It would be the perfect ambience music for lots of clubs though. Especially the clubs with large wide open lounges like Sharks or Oceans. Something like this playlist for example...
Myon & Shane 54, Late Night Alumni - Under Your Cloud
Late Night Alumni - Empty Streets
Olej & Stereoteric Feat Kristina Tiurina - Trust Me (Tosel & Hale remix)
Bluesolar - Believe in Me (Chill out mix)
Oceanlab - Sirens of the Sea
Yuri Kane - Right Back (Chillout remix)
Boom Jinx - Milano
Boom Jinx & Soundprank Feat Katrine Stenbekk - We Know
Therr Maitz - Doctor (Artur Montecci remix)
Schpongle - Nothing is Something Worth Doing
Schpongle - Once Upon the Sea of Blissful Awareness
Gareth Emery & Ashley Wallbridge - CVNT5
Aurosonic & Frainbreeze & Katty Heath - All I Need (Progressive Mix)
Yotto - Personal Space
Above & Beyond - Quieter is Louder
Above & Beyond - Alone Tonight
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1962381]some girls sleeping now in rooms where they are fucked, before the new law to work.[/QUOTE]I know what you mean but every time I read your phrase it makes me wonder don't most adult women sleep in rooms where they are fucked? LOL! Well I at least hope most husbands around the world would let their wife sleep where she was fucked.
All good! Just having fun with your wording. I think I'm might be the few to enjoy your writing style.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1962590]Fully agree with you, I always consider Shark as a good club but not better than most of the other one, and sorry to repeat too dark inside for me, difficult to see the skin of the girls. Never get also great experiences in NRW clubs but may be it is my responsibility.[/QUOTE]From 3 May 2015 to Orthodox Easter 2016, as I wrote very often, Sharks was really the best casting in Germany for me, even my World regular didn't like I wrote this, and they made really good improvements for club services, compare to small club Sharks was in 2013 with about 40 girls. But so many good girls left, often saying because of clients behavior. Some were really busy, but prefer to go to work elsewhere, and I m still welcome with them at LR, or Globe. More and more girls, but unfortunately, less and less pretty, do we need to fuck 200 GND? Or beauties like Karin, Rena? Or top class Kate, classy Ilka? Or top GFE like Aylice. Bu? Sorry for some top girls I don't name.
Now, less clients who pay 45/65 for entry, but more girls who pay 100/120 for entry, so still good business for the club. As I say to Megan on my last visit, when I have only 4 days per week for FKK, I lose my time at Sharks now, I have more pleasure in 7 other clubs, 4 are in NRW.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1962623]I know what you mean but every time I read your phrase it makes me wonder don't most adult women sleep in rooms where they are fucked? LOL! Well I at least hope most husbands around the world would let their wife sleep where she was fucked.
All good! Just having fun with your wording. I think I'm might be the few to enjoy your writing style.[/QUOTE]Some women like to sleep in smelling sex bed with their beloved real BF, not pimp, because they enjoy to have sex with him, but do you think poor Romanian girls enjoy to smell sex all night, after being fucked so many times. I know what my regular explained me to keep her bed and not have to sleep in rooms for sex. I'm always happy when my girls say they sleep outside the club. My Romanian medusa rent a hotel room with 2 girls, they share 50 per day, not so expensive, and they can see different walls.
I was also very happy to speak about new free foods at Oase with all girls I know and even Irina. Ru before going to room, they were all happy like me.
Even prostitutes, they are women, at least this is my little respect from the said, worst guy at Sharks, who had so many regular girls.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1962601]Glad to hear I am not the only one into deep house or progressive house music. But I think we are out of luck. No clubs that I know of play much of that... It would be the perfect ambience music for lots of clubs though. Especially the clubs with large wide open lounges like Sharks or Oceans. Something like this playlist for example...
Myon & Shane 54, Late Night Alumni - Under Your Cloud
Late Night Alumni - Empty Streets
Olej & Stereoteric Feat Kristina Tiurina - Trust Me (Tosel & Hale remix)
Bluesolar - Believe in Me (Chill out mix)
Oceanlab - Sirens of the Sea
Yuri Kane - Right Back (Chillout remix)
Boom Jinx - Milano
Boom Jinx & Soundprank Feat Katrine Stenbekk - We Know
Therr Maitz - Doctor (Artur Montecci remix)
Schpongle - Nothing is Something Worth Doing
Schpongle - Once Upon the Sea of Blissful Awareness
Gareth Emery & Ashley Wallbridge - CVNT5
Aurosonic & Frainbreeze & Katty Heath - All I Need (Progressive Mix)
Yotto - Personal Space
Above & Beyond - Quieter is Louder
Above & Beyond - Alone Tonight[/QUOTE]I agree with this. I was pleased to hear the relatively deep album cut get naked by Britney Spears but still, somebody switch up the fucking music.
It looks like that the dark and unpopular porno movie room of Sharks is gone. The movie room was completely remodeled. It is a public sex arena right now.
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1962788]It looks like that the dark and unpopular porno movie room of Sharks is gone. The movie room was completely remodeled. It is a public sex arena right now.[/QUOTE]They have curtains, right?! Not quite public sex. It can be if you decide to keep the curtains open; but then again you can fuck your girl on a couch anywhere, if both are willing.
Yeah, the cinema was in pretty dire condition when I was there a couple of weeks ago. Same crappy german porno on repeat barely visible due to the bulb being super duper dim and off-colored.
Too bad, I did enjoy going in there on occasion to chill and recharge.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1962269]Idk who Sirioja saw. I can just confirm 100% that on the Monday Sirioja saw her at Sharks she was at Palace.
HB.[/QUOTE]She was not in Palace Monday. For sure.
Siri, can you verify the name of the girl you saw next time?
If she looks like Stella, it could be interesting.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1961791]Don't believe everything Megan says. After all she is a 19 yr old female provider with limited brain processing capacity. Sharks cannot intake 200 girls at one time.
Total customers increases especially with tourists, but at a rate far below the rate of increase in hookers. So, the money pool per hooker is smaller, hence you point is valid. But, lets not forget that many of the girls that come to sharks are over the hill hookers from other clubs that have no work and many sub par girls that I am surprised that management allows in. Number of girls increases, but overall quality declines. IMO. Time to shop for new clubs.[/QUOTE]I have never even spoken to Megan, much less believed her. Perhaps you are not replying / addressing me at all.
Anyways, women are very well known to exaggerate excessively, so no big deal if some girl claimed 200 and was actually much less. No one would take it as gospel.
Just a sign of irritation from having far too many girls.
Since there will be big room shortages at times, the new sex arena sounds to be a useful development. Some guys love to do public. Others may use the curtains.
I don't really think of hookers in the over the hill sense. I like mature girls as long as they are pretty and in good shape. Silly young petulant girls are less appealing.
Well Danny, if 'over the hill hookers' is the term you would use for girls such as Alexia who came from Vienna GT, or Carly (formerly at Oceans) who came from Wellcum (Kathy on their website), or Aksena (Artemis) who also came from Vienna GT, then no problem. Three girls I think resemble eachother quite a bit. Then bring me as many 'over the hill hookers' as you can. Maybe it comes from the fact that the most popular clubs among the girls get so many applications from girls knowing the market and are experienced that these clubs (like Sharks, Artemis etc) doesn't have to lift a finger trying to recruit young girls from romania or other places. So it saves them time and energy, and they get lazy just thinking the market forces will drive away the bottom girls anyway. So you are right in a way.
But my point is, they are not allways bad just because they are 25+. It can also sometimes mean that they are experienced... 25-30 is not old today either if the girls are top. Some girls can be very popular till they are 40. Russian Ella (Artemis) still has alot of followers and are probably 35+. Her looks is also easily better than most 20 year olds in some clubs... and she knows what to do unlike some of the newbie girls.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1963047]I have never even spoken to Megan, much less believed her. Perhaps you are not replying / addressing me at all.
Anyways, women are very well known to exaggerate excessively, so no big deal if some girl claimed 200 and was actually much less. No one would take it as gospel.
Just a sign of irritation from having far too many girls.
Since there will be big room shortages at times, the new sex arena sounds to be a useful development. Some guys love to do public. Others may use the curtains.
I don't really think of hookers in the over the hill sense. I like mature girls as long as they are pretty and in good shape. Silly young petulant girls are less appealing.[/QUOTE]I wonder if it's really impossible to think of having 200 girls in a day. One Saturday at 11 pm, I counted 80-90 girls except those in the rooms and locker room. If we count the girls who are already leaving the club, the number of 200 is not so surreal. Exaggeration is one of the specialties in this world of FKK, but reality could not be that far.
A barbie-doll blonde with silicones and a tattoo on her right thigh. AKA Rebecca / Angela. I'd heard she recently started working in Sharks. Anyone seen her there recently?
She worked in Globe a few years ago as Angela: [URL]http://www.club-globe.ch/main/girls/detail.php?id=1710[/URL].
Adding one thing to my former post would be that too many girls could increase the unhappiness of the girls making less money. And these girls making the least money, or the girls working without them wanting it, could potentially start with holding back on what they do in the room. Making even more customers leave the club, creating a downward spiral. So if anything, that might be the only reason why they should look into capping the amount of girls working in a club and handpick the girls.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1962790]They have curtains, right?! Not quite public sex. It can be if you decide to keep the curtains open; but then again you can fuck your girl on a couch anywhere, if both are willing.[/QUOTE]The curtains can barely cut the sights of some peeping Toms. There is no curtain between those mattresses. If you are doing public sex, the other couples can be right next to you or just one or two mattresses away.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1963061]Well Danny, if 'over the hill hookers' is the term you would use for girls such as Alexia who came from Vienna GT, or Carly (formerly at Oceans) who came from Wellcum (Kathy on their website), or Aksena (Artemis) who also came from Vienna GT, then no problem. Three girls I think resemble eachother quite a bit. Then bring me as many 'over the hill hookers' as you can. Maybe it comes from the fact that the most popular clubs among the girls get so many applications from girls knowing the market and are experienced that these clubs (like Sharks, Artemis etc) doesn't have to lift a finger trying to recruit young girls from romania or other places. So it saves them time and energy, and they get lazy just thinking the market forces will drive away the bottom girls anyway. So you are right in a way.
But my point is, they are not allways bad just because they are 25+. It can also sometimes mean that they are experienced... 25-30 is not old today either if the girls are top. Some girls can be very popular till they are 40. Russian Ella (Artemis) still has alot of followers and are probably 35+. Her looks is also easily better than most 20 year olds in some clubs... and she knows what to do unlike some of the newbie girls.[/QUOTE]I don't believe that today the club have any problems to find girls, the same for the escort agencies I know well the manager of a escort agency and he told me that never he saw so many and young girls (mostly German) applying for a job.
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1963161]The curtains can barely cut the sights of some peeping Toms. There is no curtain between those mattresses. If you are doing public sex, the other couples can be right next to you or just one or two mattresses away.[/QUOTE]Meh. I've had sex in there when it was still a working cinema and there were 3-4 other punters either watching, getting their dicks sucked, or going balls deep. If you don't mind public action, its fine. If you want privacy, go to a room. Every time I go to GT there is open action in close proximity in the cinema.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1963047]I have never even spoken to Megan, much less believed her. Perhaps you are not replying / addressing me at all.
Anyways, women are very well known to exaggerate excessively, so no big deal if some girl claimed 200 and was actually much less. No one would take it as gospel.
Just a sign of irritation from having far too many girls.
Since there will be big room shortages at times, the new sex arena sounds to be a useful development. Some guys love to do public. Others may use the curtains.
I don't really think of hookers in the over the hill sense. I like mature girls as long as they are pretty and in good shape. Silly young petulant girls are less appealing.[/QUOTE]Yeah, not really replying to you, but I agree. Just 200 seems an excessive overstatement. Anyway, at current times Sharks is way below my radar. Waste of time and cash.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1963171]I don't believe that today the club have any problems to find girls, the same for the escort agencies I know well the manager of a escort agency and he told me that never he saw so many and young girls (mostly German) applying for a job.[/QUOTE]That is great to hear, which clubs has most German girls in Frankfurt area? Sharks? Oase or palace?
[QUOTE=Danny227;1962961]She was not in Palace Monday. For sure.
Siri, can you verify the name of the girl you saw next time?
If she looks like Stella, it could be interesting.[/QUOTE]I saw this German, dark blond to mid back, blue eyes, I think her left arm tattooed, about 1,65, MILF look, not full naked girl on my 2 last visits, on Monday 31 October and also Saturday 5 November. Between rooms, she was sitting close to kino and corridor to toilets. Even we never had room, when we first looked at each other on Monday, it was like we already knew each other, maybe she remembered the guy who asked her for kisses of love, on 10 May 2014 at Palace? I even promised her I brush my teeth at least once a year, I don t breathe like a ashtray because I don t smoke, or a drunk full of beer. Sprite is better for breathe. Even she was smiling, I didn't go to her because if I found Stella. De pretty face 2 years and half ago, on this time I was not attracted by MILF look.
After my last visits since beginning of September, as I said to Megan but we may meet again, after more than 1 year, I don't plan to return soon, turning around all day and night, not finding new attractive girls. Of course, I could return to Agnes or Sandra when they work or Patricia, who are high level, but I need to dream, so I agree with the manager met on my last visit, when no more dreams, better to go to dream elsewhere and so many dreamed girls at LR, GT and Globe, wish to find again model GFE Valentina, have to return to Katea. Ru and Kate to celebrate our more than 1 year in Alaska. Too many girls for me on a week end, even on 4 days in FKK.
But at least, Sharks really tried to improve club services with many works done since 2 years. Wait for new attractive GFE girls.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1963061]Well Danny, if 'over the hill hookers' is the term you would use for girls such as Alexia who came from Vienna GT, or Carly (formerly at Oceans) who came from Wellcum (Kathy on their website), or Aksena (Artemis) who also came from Vienna GT, then no problem. Three girls I think resemble eachother quite a bit. Then bring me as many 'over the hill hookers' as you can. Maybe it comes from the fact that the most popular clubs among the girls get so many applications from girls knowing the market and are experienced that these clubs (like Sharks, Artemis etc) doesn't have to lift a finger trying to recruit young girls from romania or other places. So it saves them time and energy, and they get lazy just thinking the market forces will drive away the bottom girls anyway. So you are right in a way.
But my point is, they are not allways bad just because they are 25+. It can also sometimes mean that they are experienced... 25-30 is not old today either if the girls are top. Some girls can be very popular till they are 40. Russian Ella (Artemis) still has alot of followers and are probably 35+. Her looks is also easily better than most 20 year olds in some clubs... and she knows what to do unlike some of the newbie girls.[/QUOTE]Alexia (blue hair?) Is great. I was with her and will repeat. However, a few exceptions don't change my point, quality overall is declining. New recruits last year were significantly better. I think we can differentiate the good once easily.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1963220]Yeah, not really replying to you, but I agree. Just 200 seems an excessive overstatement. Anyway, at current times Sharks is way below my radar. Waste of time and cash.[/QUOTE]Same for me, and it s sad because I never visited another club which made so many works to improve club services, like Sharks since 2 years, but some new clients and not only Turkish nights, changed the atmosphere. Angel Viktoria. Bu, top class Kate don't want to return, I think same for Karin who should have returned since Orthodox Easter. Times have changed for World in 2015, for Oase in 2016, but they try to improve now, times seem also to change now at Sharks, unfortunately.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1963396]Same for me, and it s sad because I never visited another club which made so many works to improve club services, like Sharks since 2 years, but some new clients and not only Turkish nights, changed the atmosphere. Angel Viktoria. Bu, top class Kate don't want to return, I think same for Karin who should have returned since Orthodox Easter. Times have changed for World in 2015, for Oase in 2016, but they try to improve now, times seem also to change now at Sharks, unfortunately.[/QUOTE]Obviously Sirioja times are changing, it is what I tried to report since many months but it seems that nobody wants to listen to it. Regular German mongers are getting older and older so less sessions with the girls, new customers are coming but a significant part of them are more interested in drinks, etc. That really go to the rooms many times a day. On top of that more and more clubs, escorts. More and more girls so even the clubs are doing their best to attract mongers they are facing a lot of challenges.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1963047]
Anyways, women are very well known to exaggerate excessively, so no big deal if some girl claimed 200 and was actually much less. No one would take it as gospel.
[/QUOTE]Funny, I too had doubts about the 200 girl figure, but over the past few visits to Sharks, during several individual discussions, many girls independently claimed the club had 200 girls during weekend / Weds days / nights. Last nights mob scene may well have approached the 200 girl figure. Who can really count.
One thing I learned, however, is that Monday and Tuesday (and perhaps Thursday too) can be good days to visit Sharks. Sure there is a more reduced line up, but there is still plenty of interest to select good girls and have great no-rushed sessions often in the room of your choice. And some of the girls that, otherwise might not be available or at least hard to greet and meet, are free birds on these quieter days.
For example, last Tues a petite blonde young very attractive girl, was walking around aimlessly. I caught her glance and she came over and sat on my lap for a few minutes chat. Turned out to be the famous German girl Mandy. Wow, wow, wow! What a stand out session this turned out to be: 1. 5 hours of non-stop deep, deep kissing, top notch BBBJ on display, and endless display of positions and back and forth foreplay. My point: I probably never would have met her on a busy day because she would have been booked out by local regulars.
I had some other great sessions with new girls and old favourites as well. Over the past week I visited Sharks a few times and roomed with:
Patricia: blonde slightly older but very experienced and consistent GFE performance. Love this girl.
Katalina: an old favorite formerly Sabina at Oase.
Moira: she is attending the club quite sporadically now, almost on purpose the way somebody who wants to quit smoking limits themselves to only one or two smokes a day. She says she only comes once or twice a week, max. Still very good in room, however. Love this girl too!
Nellie: a new experience for me, very slim, long-legs burnette. Quite sweet, with DFK offered in room liberally. What a great ass (for me, at least). Has that gap-ratio thing going that Syz and others talk about.
Nikki (Bg): another new experience for me. A cute, young Bulgarian girl with alot of sexiness and game in the room (for me, at least).
I did also try Yvette, good looking little spinner girl. But I cannot claim it was an impressive session in the room. Quite passive and boring really. I guess it may be a chemistry thing, but I would not repeat, and only went into the room because she looked good and I was pretty horny at the time. But to me she does not live up to the hype.
But my great new find is: Mandy, Mandy, Mandy. But not on busy days, I guess. She packs up early for sure.
[QUOTE=Samplerr;1963125]A barbie-doll blonde with silicones and a tattoo on her right thigh. AKA Rebecca / Angela. I'd heard she recently started working in Sharks. Anyone seen her there recently?
She worked in Globe a few years ago as Angela: [URL]http://www.club-globe.ch/main/girls/detail.php?id=1710[/URL].[/QUOTE]Saw her at Sharks a few weeks ago. I know her from Oase long years ago and from Paradise Stuttgart.
HB.
On my visits, between Friday and Monday, I never saw Mandy. De full busy, not to be caught. Smiling girl.
Good if business is good for so many girls with less than 40 rooms.
[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;1963214]Meh. I've had sex in there when it was still a working cinema and there were 3-4 other punters either watching, getting their dicks sucked, or going balls deep. If you don't mind public action, its fine. If you want privacy, go to a room. Every time I go to GT there is open action in close proximity in the cinema.[/QUOTE]You had sex in the dark cinema before. The cinema was so dark that you could not identify the faces of other punters and the faces of the girls. Now, the lights are pretty bright. You can definitely identify the face of the punter and the face of the girl.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1963459]On my visits, between Friday and Monday, I never saw Mandy. De full busy, not to be caught. Smiling girl.
Good if business is good for so many girls with less than 40 rooms.[/QUOTE]Mandy definitely worked on Friday. If you want to see her you need to get in the club early. She is quite popular and she has a lot of regulars. The best time to see her is between 11 AM and 1 PM. If you come in the club late you might not see her even though she does work that Friday.
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1963570]Mandy definitely worked on Friday. If you want to see her you need to get in the club early. She is quite popular and she has a lot of regulars. The best time to see her is between 11 AM and 1 PM. If you come in the club late you might not see her even though she does work that Friday.[/QUOTE]Yup, Mandy did work on Friday. She finished up around 6 pm if I recall correct.
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1963570]Mandy definitely worked on Friday. If you want to see her you need to get in the club early. She is quite popular and she has a lot of regulars. The best time to see her is between 11 AM and 1 PM. If you come in the club late you might not see her even though she does work that Friday.[/QUOTE]Even I don't visit anymore weekly since this summer, I meant in my previous post, I saw many times Mandy looking for business, not so busy when I saw her, but she is always smiling and I heard from many guys only good things about her nice behavior. I just need a look which make me dream a bit.
Hi,
I just post my own experience about girls on the different section and don't want to copy and paste to this section. It is interesting that not many people know this section even exist in the form. I just want to know if you guys have similar experience or anything else to share. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3775-Tips-and-techniques-for-sexually-arousing-women-and-making-them-orgasm&p=1963609[/URL]#post1963609.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1963343]Alexia (blue hair?) Is great. I was with her and will repeat. However, a few exceptions don't change my point, quality overall is declining. New recruits last year were significantly better. I think we can differentiate the good once easily.[/QUOTE]Yes, not enough I agree also. So when people do say 200 girls are there, I probably just pay attention to 20 of them anyway, and with Sharks lately maybe just 5 each day are really appealing. And it can even happen that one or two of these leave early or get booked the whole night. So the sharks lineup is not that great. Even Artemis and Oase line up has just as many appealing girls. Oceans has more appealing girls in my book. But Sharks does get the benefit of the doubt from me sometimes these days just because of the fruit, jacuuzi and steam room. That and Takedown has lobbied me into liking it perhaps. lol
As for Mandy, can you people stop kidnapping her to the room when i am there all the time? lol! It is not like the alternatives are that great allways... this especially goes out to some korean, chinese or japanese guys who run in to grab her asap they open... I mean, its getting rediculous. Never seen a harder to catch girl at an fkk than her... lol. or maybe I have just been unlucky and siri is right...
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1963401]Obviously Sirioja times are changing, it is what I tried to report since many months but it seems that nobody wants to listen to it. Regular German mongers are getting older and older so less sessions with the girls, new customers are coming but a significant part of them are more interested in drinks, etc. That really go to the rooms many times a day. On top of that more and more clubs, escorts. More and more girls so even the clubs are doing their best to attract mongers they are facing a lot of challenges.[/QUOTE]What I meant is World which had top casting in 2014, lost best girls. Oase also lost some good girls for me: Maria Platinium, Ina, Tatiana. Ru. Same for Sharks which lost: Carla, Viktoria, Karin, Kate, Rena, Ilka. Roberta and Leila didn't stay. Also Ariana, Aurelia, Beatrice, Aylice. Bu. Many high level girls said didn't want to stay at Sharks, like some didn't want to stay at World, and not about business, but about other problems in these 2 clubs.
Times changed mean best girls left, for new average girls to arrive.
Fortunately, still top girls, mostly Romanians for me, in German FKK or Globe. Fortunately, because unfortunately less and less top Russian escorts in Paris.
Not more clubs than in 2013/2014, but more tourists who are not demanding compare to sex level in their country.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1963451]Saw her at Sharks a few weeks ago. I know her from Oase long years ago and from Paradise Stuttgart.
HB.[/QUOTE]I have not seen her at Sharks. Are you guys sure she is still in Sharks? Would be great to re-meet her.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1963451]Saw her at Sharks a few weeks ago. I know her from Oase long years ago and from Paradise Stuttgart.
HB.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sirioja;1963317]I saw this German, dark blond to mid back, blue eyes, I think her left arm tattooed, about 1,65, MILF look, not full naked girl on my 2 last visits, on Monday 31 October and also Saturday 5 November. Between rooms, she was sitting close to kino and corridor to toilets. Even we never had room, when we first looked at each other on Monday, it was like we already knew each other, maybe she remembered the guy who asked her for kisses of love, on 10 May 2014 at Palace? I even promised her I brush my teeth at least once a year, I don t breathe like a ashtray because I don t smoke, or a drunk full of beer. Sprite is better for breathe. Even she was smiling, I didn't go to her because if I found Stella. De pretty face 2 years and half ago, on this time I was not attracted by MILF look.
After my last visits since beginning of September, as I said to Megan but we may meet again, after more than 1 year, I don't plan to return soon, turning around all day and night, not finding new attractive girls. Of course, I could return to Agnes or Sandra when they work or Patricia, who are high level, but I need to dream, so I agree with the manager met on my last visit, when no more dreams, better to go to dream elsewhere and so many dreamed girls at LR, GT and Globe, wish to find again model GFE Valentina, have to return to Katea. Ru and Kate to celebrate our more than 1 year in Alaska. Too many girls for me on a week end, even on 4 days in FKK.
But at least, Sharks really tried to improve club services with many works done since 2 years. Wait for new attractive GFE girls.[/QUOTE]Stella never sits by the toilets. She will be at Bar or walk around looking for sessions. Think you can get that same service from these girls you mentioned (E. G, Sandra)?
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1963570]Mandy definitely worked on Friday. If you want to see her you need to get in the club early. She is quite popular and she has a lot of regulars. The best time to see her is between 11 AM and 1 PM. If you come in the club late you might not see her even though she does work that Friday.[/QUOTE]You clearly misuderstand his post. I don't blame You. He inserts full stops only when he should not.
Siri should learn something about punctuation.
Anyway I believe he tried to say that Mandy was not busy all the time.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1963684]What I meant is World which had top casting in 2014, lost best girls. Oase also lost some good girls for me: Maria Platinium, Ina, Tatiana. Ru. Same for Sharks which lost: Carla, Viktoria, Karin, Kate, Rena, Ilka. Roberta and Leila didn't stay. [/QUOTE]I can tell you that before 2013 there were even better girls at Oase, Sharks World, Palace or GT you've never seen who are not working anymore.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1963869]I can tell you that before 2013 there were even better girls at Oase, Sharks World, Palace or GT you've never seen who are not working anymore.
HB.[/QUOTE]I agree that the generaly scene had it's better days in the past, even 2013 was good yr and started to decline from then on.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1963869]I can tell you that before 2013 there were even better girls at Oase, Sharks World, Palace or GT you've never seen who are not working anymore.
HB.[/QUOTE]In 2013, I was every Sunday at GT, I met prettier girls later in Hessen: Isabella, Karin at Sharks, Anna. Pol and Madi at World, Sara at Mainhattan. There are still very pretty girls in FKK like Megan, Madeleine, Valentina or Luana at LR, but not many in Hessen at the moment.
It goes up and down with most clubs I assume. Interestingly it seems that there are hotter girls where I live now than any time in the past. At least 3 very high class girls here right now (and normally in the past just 1 top girl is more than average, lol). Too bad they charge twice as much as in Germany, but I wonder if it is an effect of these 'legal' countries being over saturated with girls these days... even here prices has fallen a bit and some girls are offering 15 min sessions. Never seen that here before this summer. But I don't like that whole escort outside a club setting in these apartments, so Germany is still king. Romanian, Moldavian, Russian, Belorussian, Czech, polish, Ukrainian, Lithuanian, Bulgarian here. But the top girls are bul, rom, mol, Czech and Ukrainian. Years ago all the top girls were Russian with the occasional polish and Baltic. wonder why the only Russians these days are 40+ But I also wonder why we get more Ukrainians in Scandinavia than you do in Germany. Miss Ukrainian Natasha at Oase 2013 or 14 for example... today only miru at oase is a top Ukrainian for me in the clubs I know.
[QUOTE=Hessenbub;1963875]I can tell you that before 2013 there were even better girls at Oase, Sharks World, Palace or GT you've never seen who are not working anymore.
HB..[/QUOTE]Well just to remind some people here: on September 30th, 2006, the so-called "bus" came to FKK-World. Now, that's more than 10 years ago! And Daniela, one of the top-acts then, she is 40 years old now!
[QUOTE=NickTheG;1963922]Well just to remind some people here: on September 30th, 2006, the so-called "bus" came to FKK-World. Now, that's more than 10 years ago! And Daniela, one of the top-acts then, she is 40 years old now![/QUOTE]Is this the Daniela that works now?
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1963869]I can tell you that before 2013 there were even better girls at Oase, Sharks World, Palace or GT you've never seen who are not working anymore.
HB.[/QUOTE]Agreed, but those days are over. Girls are not like before.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1963898]But I also wonder why we get more ukrainians in scandinavia than you do in Germany. Miss ukrainian Natasha at Oase 2013 or 14 for example... today only miru at oase is a top ukrainian for me in the clubs I know...[/QUOTE]Well, because they can charge 250 E for 1 pop, extras like kissing, OWO, licking balls? Add 50 for each.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1963926]Is this the Daniela that works now?[/QUOTE]Sure! It is always the same Daniela, and she gets younger every year and her hair gets darker every year!
Have you been at FKK-World lately and saw the present dark-haired Daniela? Or why are you asking?
[QUOTE=Pistons;1963898]It goes up and down with most clubs I assume. Interrestingly it seems that there are hotter girls where I live now than any time in the past. At least 3 very high class girls here right now (and normally in the past just 1 top girl is more than average, lol). Too bad they charge twice as much as in Germany, but I wonder if it is an effect of these 'legal' countries being oversaturated with girls these days... even here prices has fallen a bit and some girls are offering 15 min sessions. Never seen that here before this summer. But I don't like that whole escort outside a club setting in these apartments, so germany is still king. Romanian, moldavian, russian, belarussian, czech, polish, ukrainian, lithuanian, bulgarian here. But the top girls are bul, rom, mol, czech and ukrainian. Years ago all the top girls were russian with the occational polish and baltic. wonder why the only russians these days are 40+ But I also wonder why we get more ukrainians in scandinavia than you do in Germany. Miss ukrainian Natasha at Oase 2013 or 14 for example... today only miru at oase is a top ukrainian for me in the clubs I know...[/QUOTE]Can find some real Russian speaking Russian, because I never met a Russian not speaking Russian, or Latvian also speaking Russian, at Samya, GT, LR, Oase, Sharks, First. Usually high level.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1963869]I can tell you that before 2013 there were even better girls at Oase, Sharks World, Palace or GT you've never seen who are not working anymore.
HB.[/QUOTE]Sorry but I don't really agree with you in the past weeks had great sessions at Oase with top girl at least for me and as usual (sorry I know that some of you completely disagree about what I do) I told them will give 100 euros but give me great service and the results were very good, GFE experiences of top level, I was not thinking I was with a prostitutes. As usual I will not give any name because I find this useless and the chemie between the people is the key for a great session and not if the girl do this or that.
[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1963951]Well, because they can charge 250 E for 1 pop, extras like kissing, OWO, licking balls? Add 50 for each.[/QUOTE]I see some prices like that too, but those are from local girls here. Non locals never charge more than 175 for half an hour. Which used to be the norm 8 years ago with most girls. But now maybe just 2% charge that much of the foreigners. 115-135e is standard for 30 min and the new rate for 15 min seems to be just 85 e. But only some girls offer that. Huge discount of you extend from 30min to 1 hour also. Like less than half the price per minute in average. So it is not as expensive as it once was. That global economy I guess. And higher competition.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1964003]Can find some real Russian speaking Russian, because I never met a Russian not speaking Russian, or Latvian also speaking Russian, at Samya, GT, LR, Oase, Sharks, First. Usually high level.[/QUOTE]Yes, you told me about the Samya girl. None at Oase or Sharks that I like these days though, and I was not that fuzzed up over Tatiana who went to GT either. Seen one or two from time to time at Artemis, bit just milf Ella left there now I think
The new Ariana is a little brunette. She is cute but a little heavy when she chases customers with her girlfriend.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1960551]Objectively, Ariana was very friendly and engaging. But she became very heavy when clients (regular or not) are with another girl. She beat with lots of girls thinking that others steal her customers. Maybe she did not understand that because of her youth, clients do not come to having sex only with one girl in the club where we have a choice among over 100 girls. When I saw she fought with another girl, she shouted to her that "I'm better than you! ". She obviously cannot have peace in the club with this type of character, same character as Iris, small skinny, which was also kicked off the club recently.
Competition has become so heavy at Sharks recently, the girls are ready to do anything. It is such a shame that the degradation of this level happen.[/QUOTE]
The number of more than 200 girls (225 more exactly) comes from the reception. The blue keys for the girls only exist 200 copies. The reception starts distributing the red keys for customers to the girls, so the this number of more than 200 girls was announced to the girls by the reception. That's why they all sing the same song about the maximum number of girls.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1961949]I mean it seems strange that many girls said same number of girls (225). I suppose existence of same source of information for these girls. Maybe reception? That means.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pistons;1964046]Yes, you told me about the Samya girl. None at Oase or Sharks that I like these days though, and I was not that fuzzed up over Tatiana who went to GT either. Seen one or two from time to time at Artemis, bit just milf Ella left there now I think[/QUOTE]Unfortunately Ina. Lat has gone, I'm happy for her, but you should like small blond Irina. Ru at Oase in night team, one of the busiest.
Not only Tatiana / Ilona, not at GT at the moment, but GT have a new Russian tornado, competing with my last night tornado at LR, Jenni. I will regret my sweet medusa. Also Nora. Ru and Lily. Ru at LR. And reddish Katea. Ru at Samya. Also angel and top level Marina. Lat at Sharks. And I met in FKK for only 50/30 mn, other Latvians like Lena or another Inna at GT, now escort in Paris. Russian escorts in Paris are 150/200 for 30 mn and 200/300 for 1 hour. For one, Milky is on tour.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1963927]Agreed, but those days are over. Girls are not like before.[/QUOTE]Service levels all over the world are dwindling. This is because of the emerging ethic of acquiring as much as possible with as little effort as possible. This is a natural evolution of capitalism which dictates that greed is good. Older hobbyists are affected more because of the memories of better days. Younger punters are more accepting of the status quo because it takes less to get them off and they do not know better.
Well I am staying with my theory that there's too many clubs in Germany, too many tourists in the clubs ruining service and pricing.
HB.
[QUOTE=Turgid;1964160]Service levels all over the world are dwindling. This is because of the emerging ethic of acquiring as much as possible with as little effort as possible. This is a natural evolution of capitalism which dictates that greed is good. Older hobbyists are affected more because of the memories of better days. Younger punters are more accepting of the status quo because it takes less to get them off and they do not know better.[/QUOTE]Not really, that only works in a booming sellers market. But not in a market where sellers outstrips buyers. This is capitalism also. Quality is the only thing that lets some survive and others go bankrupt in a bad market situation. Shipping and oil and coal industry are three examples these days.
My theory is that of different group rules in different clubs, and that they are sometimes missreading their own control of a market, thinking that customers cannot move clubs, type of service, country or even continent (considering all the Asians and Americans). Shipping or even Opec is a good example also here where it seems they need at least about 30% market share to control prizes all depending on the amount of oversupply. If you want to control a market through some cartel, like it seems some groups of girls are trying to do, then they need a huge market share within just one group... which is not likely to happen in this business. Or they need something special that gives them an edge.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1964206]
My theory is that of different group rules in different clubs, and that they are sometimes missreading their own control of a market, thinking that customers cannot move clubs, type of service, [/QUOTE]It's the tourists, willing to overpay or to accept bad service. Palace had great service levels when it opened. Then the tourists came. Service dropped. Oase followed. Mainhattan the same thing. And now it's starting at Sharks. World is too far away, majority of clients are locals. Service level is much better. Same for Artemis. Monopoly plus too many tourists. Or GoldenTime. Too many Dutch satisfied with mediocre service.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1964175]Well I am staying with my theory that there's too many clubs in Germany, too many tourists in the clubs ruining service and pricing.
HB.[/QUOTE]The number of clubs has nothing to do with the disappearance of the Russian, Polish and other nationalitys that no longer work in Germany.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1964211]It's the tourists, willing to overpay or to accept bad service. Palace had great service levels when it opened. Then the tourists came. Service dropped. Oase followed. Mainhattan the same thing. And now it's starting at Sharks. World is too far away, majority of clients are locals. Service level is much better. Same for Artemis. Monopoly plus too many tourists. Or GoldenTime. Too many Dutch satisfied with mediocre service.
HB.[/QUOTE]Yes I agree, but information spreads these days quicker than ever. So that kind of luring money from tourists can come back to haunt the girls in the future. It comes down to integrity perhaps also.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1964212]The number of clubs has nothing to do with the disappearance of the Russian, Polish and other nationalitys that no longer work in Germany.[/QUOTE]Didn't say that.
HB.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1964215]Yes I agree, but information spreads these days quicker than ever.[/QUOTE]"Information spreading" about a WG only damages or enhances her reputation amongst people like us who spend multiple hours a week on a forum (lurking or posting). Guys who spend hundreds of hours a years in an FKK are a small minority. These men I'd classify as hardcore mongers. For people, who spend less time in FKKs, it is not practical to waste too much time reading a forum.
For example, when I went to Brazil, I knew I'd only be in termas about 6-8 hours total spread out over five days. I spent maximum 45 minutes researching the Brazil ISG threads. So I didn't remember a single girls name. The only things I took mental notes about were: general reputations of the various termas, pricing, and convenience.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1964215]So that kind of luring money from tourists can come back to haunt the girls in the future. [/QUOTE]
Some of the girls don't care about their long term reputations as providers. Some girls have it set in their minds that they will only be in the business another 12 months, so its about making as much money in the short term as possible.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1964231] people like us who spend multiple hours a week on a forum (lurking or posting). Guys who spend hundreds of hours a years in an FKK are a small minority. These men I'd classify as hardcore mongers. [/QUOTE]Ok, I lost. LOL.
But what I ment was what you write about the termas. the general interpretation. and how many times dont we see people asking about the best LU here or there? what club is the best etc etc ad nauseum... because I clutter up the forum with the interesting stuff all the time people fool themselves into not reading. lol
[QUOTE]=McAdonis;1964231...For example, when I went to Brazil, I knew I'd only be in termas about 6-8 hours total spread out over five days. I spent maximum 45 minutes researching the Brazil ISG threads. So I didn't remember a single girls name. The only things I took mental notes about were: general reputations of the various termas, pricing, and convenience...[/QUOTE]Brazil is in a class by itself. Just go to an establishment and choose any garota who tickles your fancy and a good time is guaranteed. Brazilian women go into the business almost as much for the fun as for the money.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1964211]Then the tourists came. Service dropped. And now it's starting at Sharks. World is too far away, majority of clients are locals. Service level is much better.[/QUOTE]Now at Sharks? It has started at carp pond already around two years ago. And service level at World isn't so much better if you compare apples with appels. And without the tourists from the Frankfurt big5 clubs would survive maybe only two. And without the better paying and / or low service accepting tourists many top girls wouldn't work anymore in Frankfurt.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1964013] I told them will give 100 euros but give me great service and the results were very good, GFE experiences of top level,.[/QUOTE]I don't think Girl will refuse this offer, BUT what will you do if she give you normal or bad service! Will you give 100 euro?
What if she said her service was great, and you disagree? Will you give 50 Euro.
Its complicated. So I will stick to the obvious rules 50/30 and 100/60.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1964211]It's the tourists, willing to overpay or to accept bad service. Palace had great service levels when it opened. Then the tourists came. Service dropped. Oase followed. Mainhattan the same thing. And now it's starting at Sharks. World is too far away, majority of clients are locals. Service level is much better. Same for Artemis. Monopoly plus too many tourists. Or GoldenTime. Too many Dutch satisfied with mediocre service.
HB.[/QUOTE]I agree with all that.
Very few members here have the right ethics unfortunately, that does not help the quality drop.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1964211]It's the tourists, willing to overpay or to accept bad service. Palace had great service levels when it opened. Then the tourists came. Service dropped. Oase followed. Mainhattan the same thing. And now it's starting at Sharks. World is too far away, majority of clients are locals. Service level is much better. Same for Artemis. Monopoly plus too many tourists. Or GoldenTime. Too many Dutch satisfied with mediocre service.
HB.[/QUOTE]Ignorant tourists destroying the market place. If only all tourist act like me I. E. Never overpay for standard service and demand good service before commiting to a session, LOL.
This downward spiral plus the new law next yr its certainly doesn't look good.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1964175]Well I am staying with my theory that there's too many clubs in Germany, too many tourists in the clubs ruining service and pricing.
HB.[/QUOTE]There is some merit to the argument that too many tourists may be bringing down service levels in general but how does it make sense that too many clubs ruin service levels?
When there is too much supply, that does not lead to price inflation or quality reduction.
Berlin has just Artemis. Prices are higher, and other than PFI and a few hardcore Artemis fans, not many think Artemis service levels are better than in Frankfurt.
If tomorrow Oase, Palace and Mainhattan shut down, would Sharks' girls provide better service? All those men going to those clubs would now go to Sharks, and that hardly improves the situation.
[QUOTE=Hessenbub;1964215]It's the tourists, willing to overpay or to accept bad service. Palace had great service levels when it opened. Then the tourists came. Service dropped. Oase followed. Mainhattan the same thing. And now it's starting at Sharks. World is too far away, majority of clients are locals. Service level is much better. Same for Artemis. Monopoly plus too many tourists. Or GoldenTime. Too many Dutch satisfied with mediocre service.HB.[/QUOTE]"What actually ruins a destination are the tourists. And I don't mean that simply because of the increase in visitors. I mean that because tourists end up supporting unsustainable tourism practices, and that's what really destroys a place. We simply love places to death. ".
[URL]http://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/why-tourists-ruin-the-places-they-love/[/URL]
FKK-Cubs in Germany are high-speed resorts for sex-access. Unlimited instant sex! Sex tourists in the form of locals and international tourists are willing to consume sex without regarding consequences. Consume as much of this drug (called sex) as they can. They both will love it to death. They don't even care about ruining their inner environment. Why? Because they cannot stand being confronted with the certainty of death themselves, they cling to their illusions and delusions.
This fucking lifestyle is like a whirl, ultimately a futile attempt to escape the certainty of death.
Hey everyone,
First off if anyone was at Sharks Friday night I think the guys were outnumbered 2 to 1. At least until about 2300. When I get home from my trip I will write about my 4 experiences that night and the ones after. Dies any one know if that spicy dark hair blue eyes with the Albania flag on her back is working Anja?
[QUOTE=Tuber19;1964296]I don't think Girl will refuse this offer, BUT what will you do if she give you normal or bad service! Will you give 100 euro?
What if she said her service was great, and you disagree? Will you give 50 Euro.[/QUOTE]I think as he is a believer of this activity being bad, he is not a too demanding tourist. He probably never had a bad session. LLLOL.
[QUOTE=Tuber19;1964296]I don't think Girl will refuse this offer, BUT what will you do if she give you normal or bad service! Will you give 100 euro?
What if she said her service was great, and you disagree? Will you give 50 Euro.
Its complicated. So I will stick to the obvious rules 50/30 and 100/60.[/QUOTE]Fortunately never got bad service but I am more a optical fucker. As already reported, last week at Oase with a new girl I do the same and I had a great session with one of the most beautiful girl over the last 10 years. I never ask a girl before a session if she do this or this (like a technical data sheet), I adapt myself during the session sometimes if my mud is good and the feeling with the girl is good I will do anal but I never ask it before entering the room, it depends.
It is more than 10 years that we give 50 euros, no I will not give 50 euros I will just consider that I was not good enough to make her feel comfortable with me and as a consequence to provide nice sex. I only go to World, Oase seldom to Shark or Manhattan and with few sessions each time so I will not be able to damage the full price structure in German FKK.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1964212]The number of clubs has nothing to do with the disappearance of the Russian, Polish and other nationalitys that no longer work in Germany.[/QUOTE]These two races are hot till they hit age 35 LOL.
I find some German Russian or German Polish still though Second generation immigrants I guess.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1964344]There is some merit to the argument that too many tourists may be bringing down service levels in general but how does it make sense that too many clubs ruin service levels?
[/QUOTE]Many clubs = wider mainstream mongering scene = more offers = more tourists visiting Germany for P6 bringing service levels down.
In 2003 at Atlantis and Oase there were a few tourists from other countries. But they didn't behave like tourists. It was a more closed scene, mongers knowing the prices, asking for good service for standard pricing, less shy and more open for public action. It was practically impossible to get to a room at Atlantis without a public blowjob on the sofa. There was public sex everywhere. Girls were leaning on the sofa / benches leaning over and presenting their ass and Pussy. That whole scene changed when it got mainstream. Part of the mainstream is a new kind of prudity. Guys wearing underwear underneath their robes or towels, bathing and showering in boxershorts afraid somebody could see them naked. That group is mainly consisting of tourists (Italian, French, English, US, Asian, Indian) and local Muslim Germans. Mainstream also changed focus for a subgroup away from sex to visiting clubs as a SPA with food, drinks, sauna, pool. Different scene from "the good old days". But it is what it is.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1964381] Mainstream also changed focus for a subgroup away from sex to visiting clubs as a SPA with food, drinks, sauna, pool. Different scene from "the good old days". .[/QUOTE]I know what you mean. I have been there.
Amongst my club friends there is a sub group that chooses a club based on the relax factor rathrr than on what gitls are there in the club as the primary criteria. For them it is the stimulas or atmosphere of the club which can relate to what the girls provide but in the end its the spa and club feel and not they can get a blowjob. This group comprises Germans from Hessen, BW and Bayern who go touring around the clubs needing hotels and considering logistics like distance and cost of a hotel plus non Germans who aspire to the FKK ethic.
Then there is the club friends who just want the best looking girls to fuck and are driven by service no matter what. Sometimes the minimum bar of good looking is not even a requirement.
[QUOTE=NickTheG;1964348]
FKK-Cubs in Germany are high-speed resorts for sex-access. Unlimited instant sex! Sex tourists in the form of locals and international tourists are willing to consume sex without regarding consequences. Consume as much of this drug (called sex) as they can. They both will love it to death. They don't even care about ruining their inner environment. Why? Because they cannot stand being confronted with the certainty of death themselves, they cling to their illusions and delusions.
This fucking lifestyle is like a whirl, ultimately a futile attempt to escape the certainty of death.[/QUOTE]Nick the G aka The Philosopher, LOL.
Unlimited only if you got unlimted funds. I got lost at "why?" deep stuff, hehe.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1964381]Many clubs = wider mainstream mongering scene = more offers = more tourists visiting Germany for P6 bringing service levels down.
In 2003 at Atlantis and Oase there were a few tourists from other countries. But they didn't behave like tourists. It was a more closed scene, mongers knowing the prices, asking for good service for standard pricing, less shy and more open for public action. It was practically impossible to get to a room at Atlantis without a public blowjob on the sofa. There was public sex everywhere. Girls were leaning on the sofa / benches leaning over and presenting their ass and Pussy. That whole scene changed when it got mainstream. Part of the mainstream is a new kind of prudity. Guys wearing underwear underneath their robes or towels, bathing and showering in boxershorts afraid somebody could see them naked. That group is mainly consisting of tourists (Italian, French, English, US, Asian, Indian) and local Muslim Germans. Mainstream also changed focus for a subgroup away from sex to visiting clubs as a SPA with food, drinks, sauna, pool. Different scene from "the good old days". But it is what it is.
HB.[/QUOTE]OK, what you say makes sense, but the genie now is out of the bottle.
In 2003, Germany was not known as the sex capital of world. And it was not in the 90's either. For a long time, I used to think Amsterdam and Thailand is where mongers went, and I have to admit, even I used to have a slight negative view of them and that scene. You could say I was one of those judgmental people.
I only learned about FKK 4,5 years ago, and when I first visited Oase, I was blown away. It was awe inspiring. Never seen anything like it, and pretty clean and safe too. Not in some dingy dark place, fat old ladies, shady mafioso characters watching over you.
So, the issue is that Germany is now known as the sex tourism destination. (Perhaps you will get your wish. Just kidding, LOL. With the new law next year, tourists will be turned off and it will go back to good old days minus the BBBJ). But the problem is that Germany the country being now known as the place to go, and not that one single city has too many clubs. Even cities and locations with fewer number of clubs don't seem to have better service levels. Berlin / Artemis is one example. I have never visited all those clubs in other German cities, but reports about clubs in Hamburg, Munich, Stuttgart, etc etc suggest service is not any consistently and materially superior to that in Frankfurt. What I read is that only a small random club like Bernds may have good service and that is due to some very specific reasons and ladies and not because there are fewer clubs in that region.
I spent 4 days at Sharks this week, and to be honest I did not see anyone taking shower in their underwear, but of course I am not in the club as often as you are. I do see gents walking with a robe and a towel underneath, and can't understand if it is because they feel cold or because they are afraid their private parts will show accidentally. Still, I don't know we can necessarily deduce a cause and effect relation between such visitors and girls not being as open and nice as they used to be. I suspect you did not have as many girls in the days of yore as you have now, and perhaps it was possible for a smaller mostly German ladies' group to be open and presenting as you said back in the day, but the thousands of Romanian and other eastern eu girls now predominant in the clubs will not do all those things for 50. Even at Sharks many girls are expecting to finish a 50 euro 30 min session well inside 20 min. Unless she is a long time regular for you, and in which case you might not do a basic 30 min session with her anyway. As McA described, for 30 min, in their view you are entitled to a few min BJ, a quick fuck in one or two positions, no kissing and cuddling of any kind. One long time regular told me that if any customer strictly enforces 30 min for 50 Europe, she will never ever go back to that customer again.
Wherever there is a greater number of mongers compared to the number of working girls in a country the service level will be down because the girls know that they will always get customers especially if they are tourists. Where the number of working girls exceed that of punters the girls have to work harder to attract customers as supply exceeds demand.
There is also another factor. Where generally the number of mongers exceed that of available working girls it means that the average wg does more sessions per day which makes them get jaded faster. Jaded wgs usually give poorer service.
[QUOTE=DukesFord;1964358]Hey everyone,
First off if anyone was at Sharks Friday night I think the guys were outnumbered 2 to 1. At least until about 2300. When I get home from my trip I will write about my 4 experiences that night and the ones after. Dies any one know if that spicy dark hair blue eyes with the Albania flag on her back is working Anja?[/QUOTE]Yes, that description fits with Anja.
I think the situation is that Sharks blew up bigger due to it's hype. Sucking the life away from the other clubs. If one club is able to hold on to so much popularity even with competition around, matter of time before the club draws much attention to amplify such a state.
Personally, I always found Sharks hyped up more than the club really deserved. I never had a visit which I thought the LU was amazing or saw much stunners. That's my taste anyways (although there has been some stand out girls over the years like any other clubs).
There were only those rare visits I come out having great or wedding night sessions over yrs, but really majority of the club visits weren't all that exciting. I'm not all that into the big fuck-factor feel of the club or into clubs with popular girls that constantly doing rooms, and not be able to grab them, and therefore quickly gets jaded.
IMO Pre-2013 Oase had well deserved attention the club was getting.
I think what is really at issue is that new generation of girls come in and there are more newbie tourists due to all the attention the place is getting. New generation of girls and newbie tourists is not a good mix for good service outcomes. It's going to creates lower service levels and likely higher price expectation of girls.
There has always been tourists, just that more are present now a days that ever before. What happens as there are many clubs is that, it can cater to different needs. If there are cheap punters looking for quick room, low rate, it exists. If there are reliable serviced club, but with lower optiks, they exists. Various entry and rate pricing, and potential for services. Addition of so many clubs creates an option for punters and spread them across many clubs. You got the French, Dutch folks attending NRW mainly. The Scandinavians flying down to Artemis or whatnot.
Why didn't this happen to this degree earlier on? Perhaps it took time for the word to spread, and with so much tourists, the big mainstream clubs that tourists mainly target are in a good business, so really not much to change. This is true for Artemis. Hessen and NRW has clubs in competition, so discounts are offered, lower entry, different types of clubs that caters to different clientels.
If you look around, there are bordell establishments strategically placed close to boarders of nearby countries. But, that is not enough, they will still hunger for the core meal in the center. LOL.
Also, I'm sure many of the German locals that has punted in the better days, probably are so used to how much they can get for the pricing, that once the service level drops in the club and girls mainly get targeted for tourist as they become the majority, they start looking elsewhere. Smaller clubs, etc. This further creates a different club clientel, and therefore changes in service levels in clubs.
Anyway, if people have been around in the scene long enough, should be able to see a trend of things to occur.
[QUOTE=MrHo;1964376]These two races are hot till they hit age 35 LOL.[/QUOTE]Do you have a post age 35 favorite race also?
Ok, so what can be done? There are basically a too high ratio of tourists in all the top Hessen clubs. Especially palace, mainhatten, oase and sharks. Like 50%+ But in other regions there are still large clubs able to take in the same amount of customers. And since this seems to be more about lowering the rate of newbie tourists compared to hardcore mongers (thanks McA) or locals, then why are some hessen people on this forum so contempt on only advertising the hessen clubs as opposed to nrw or even bw? Never been to hamburg myself, but I hear Babylon is another huge club in area too...
Clubs like Oceans and Paradise leinfelden are huge and has great potentials too. And there should be a possibility to divert tourists in these directions. Other clubs like Sakura, Samya and Acapulco might deserve more reports too. There are huge amounts of silent readers on forums like this. Don't underestimate them. They might just read here the last week before they go. And then decide based on the busiest threads.
Or is the idea to hype the clubs that you don't like, just in order to keep the tourists away from the 'gem clubs'? lol, like that bavarian guy I met at Oceans told me he did. And is this why I am the only one advertising Oceans here? Because the naysayers wants to keep a secret? lol
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1964175]Well I am staying with my theory that there's too many clubs in Germany, too many tourists in the clubs ruining service and pricing.
HB.[/QUOTE]Even I'm only a less than 3 years old baby in Hessen, less clubs with no more F35 or Royal, less girls at World or Oase, no more 100 girls in both, I think also less girls at Palace, only Sharks increased when were less than 50 girls on beginning of 2014 when I discovered. I don't know how many girls at Sharks now, I didn't see 150 girls on my Saturday 5 November visit, but who care? Who can go with more than 50 girls? But who look for beauties? Me, and I also know less than 40 rooms, without wood chalets. Not sure a girl want to go in chalet at the moment.
As a more than 100 days per year in FKK, I agree some kind of tourists choose to overpay girls to be sure they will go with them, or stay free for them. A girl who was said not to like me anymore, told me she was paid 600 to stay free for 6 hours, but only about 1 hour in room, mostly chatting and hugging. As she was usually not so busy, even could be high level, it was her lucky, easy business day, good for her. Some girls know the hugging strategy with some clients. Seda at LR was an expert.
Raοssa at World was booked all week end 18/19 July 2015 by an old Asian, staying in couch or at the bar, you can read posts about at this time, describing how she looked bored.
Justina was booked all night by a German guy, staying at the bar, drinking champagne, on World Christmas party 2015 . At least, she didn't have problems with Hells on that night.
Many Eastern guys or old Germans pay girls to chat, hug, drink, smoke, in room, and even tip to thank girls to go with them. Girls are happy to be paid to speak about me.
Sharks is now suffering from same touristic disease than Oase, before. Oase try now to improve, after having been down.
But Sharks is not the FKK world center, and I know many high level girls at the moment, too many at GT, I can t go with all of them, even with 3 rooms yesterday. Also at LR, Globe, if I lived in Zurich I would not need to come to Sharks, compare to Globe, Aphrodisia, Bumsalp, real paradise land, but everybody can believe bullshits.
My only regret is Nicole at Harmony, because so difficult to drive to Hamburg with A1 and A2 many works, but Dusseldorf or Zurich are as easy as FRA for me.
Just have to work to find what we look for, no problem for me, only paying clubs rates, never tiping, my only tip is to ask at the end of the room to the girl like Kity yesterday, if she wants we repeat in future? My said victims usually want, I repeated with angel face beauty Kity a few hours later, even she was tired. Now she knows, after a first sporty room and a second soft room, and I keep on being a many times repeating specialist.
Just have to enjoy what we are able to do.
Some are saving that Sunday is a crap day for Sharks. Early on they are right. Arrived 11 am. Could not find a hot girl to do till 3 pm. No problem to take a good girl on Sat at Oase at 11 am.
Most of the early girls are ugly. I am hard but fair. Lots of silicone or very saggy tits. Lots of ugly faces. Okay There are a very small number of appealing girls who go straight to their regular customers. I had no chance. E. g. Sandra available for all of 5 secs or maybe she appointments.
I approached pretty Delia, slim will almost no tits. Unfortunately she needed to detail all the serious limitations of a 50 Euro session. I am likely to take 1 hour however all chance of her being a sweet girl seemed to have been killed off. I lost my attraction to her very rapidly. She needs to learn to be sweet or just shut up. No session.
Yvonna had a nice face and great tits. She dashed off to the ladies change for maybe 2 hours. When emerged she said needed to go eat. Then straight to her regular. Much later she was available but I lost interest by then.
Finally decided I would have to take sweet pretty Melanie with glasses. A bit too slim but Still looked better than the vast majority. I should add that girls like Dina did not interest me. I need smaller ass. Also Bella who was in Oase Saturday was now in Sharks. Maybe works both clubs.
Anyway Melanie turned out to be a good choice, however only lip kissing, and everything else good. 1 hour used. A little timid but we both had a good time. She is quite a funny girl.
Later took Lana (Dom Rep). We knew each other from a distant past meeting. She was once called Luna in another club. She does a great soft smooth BBBJ to CIM. Very good GFE session. She like DATY too, if the guy starts with good soft technique.
By the time selection was improving a lot, I had to leave. However I cannot recommend Sharks for early on a Sunday. Friday or Saturday are vastly better.
There are pretty girls, but so few of them. Lots of new ugly girls. A large line up is no benefit when 90% or more have either plain face or poor body. Some great bodies like Diana but no great figures early on.
I don't see a great difference in the line ups between Oase and Sharks in the evening if take only the best looking 10 girls. Daytime I prefer Oase. Maybe that is unfair as judging Sharks by Sunday only.
Sharks breakfast lacked Croissants and Liver Wuerst and Oranges and bananas. Oase BF is slightly better than Sharks now. Dinner the beef was very nice as usual.
DFK can be had at both Oase abd Sharks if you know the right girls. Plenty of girls are not giving it too, even in an hour. I don't see any difference in the two clubs in possibility to get GFE and DFK.
If you know the girls long time, it helps a lot. You can get the DFK automatically with no upsell or mood killing discussions.
I guess service will improve if (1- Decreases men Or 2- Increase girls).
And if lots of men are easy targets and they give easy money. Then they are ruining service.
I think its simple. Girls who can earn big money, are not motivated so much by having to work real hard for a 50. I have seen girls able to improve their service greatly for a promise of a regular customer who pay better.
I can accept that getting big money too easily from Tourists can stuff that up.
What guys are asking for is uniformity where every customer pays good money only when the good service is arriving. Like I may only go more than a fifty if she gives me a reasonable GFE. Perhaps I am not tough enough. Girls probably understand I will rarely repeat if GFE is not good. Some do not care. Others do want the repeat business. Not all girls are really smart in terms of maximising their repeat customers or even in hooking the customer in first place.
The locals can move to non Touristy clubs and some of them are already. Back to World? LOL
In the end, girls certainly have the ability to give better to their preferred customers. I have received good service from girls that some of the locals rated as crap. Other times the reverse.
I must be spoiling the market. Fancy paying all my girls at least 100 for the hour and occasionally more time or extras. Also stupidly I allow them to relax with long Daty. Easy money for just lying there part of the time.
Was service any better in 2004 when I first started at FKK? The best girls. ow are just as good. It simply we have a lot more bad girls now. There have always been plenty of mediocre girls.
That is why we concentrate on repeating the really good performing girls to our own style, right?
Endlessly changing girls is not beneficial and certainly does not motivate girls to perform.
I am pleased to meet girls who really want to be the very best and one of the top girls in the club, not just to be shit and rip off guys.
I meet girls who want to have a lot of fun with customer and no stress
Lack of a pay rise probably equals bad service. In the future, CIM bonus to be yanked off them too.
With most girls, a fiddy is just not going to cut it for good service any more.
[QUOTE=Tuber19;1964691]I guess service will improve if (1- Decreases men Or 2- Increase girls).
[/QUOTE]That's the situation for the last 24+ months. Increasing no of girls and no increase in men or money spent. Didn't help service levels at all.
HB.
I used to be a heavy-smoker until two years ago I quit smoking. Since then I noticed second-hand smoking bothering me more and more. It sometime significantly reduces my sexual desire. So recently I spent less than before in Sharks. Second-smoking also became a major reason I terminate session early if a girl requests smoking in the room. I stopped seeing my several regulars in Sharks this year because of this.
Second-hand smoking also do harm to girls health and beauty. Girls would age quickly in the indoor environment full of smoking. They knew that. Quite a few of my regulars at Sharks told me that they don't smoke cigarettes outside club, but inside club they smoke like chimney because peer pressures. Megan is one of few girls never smoke cigarettes. Because of this, I always offer her long-hour-session even if she is not my regular yet.
I know a lot of guys hate smoking too. I was in Sharks last weekend and met two guys from America. One of Their major complaints is the second-hand smoking. We all agreed if Sharks was a smoking-free club, we would mostly like to spend more money on girls. These two Americans are Sharks regulars, they told me they visited Sharks more than ten times a year.
Manhattan and Palace are the only smoke free clubs around Frankfurt area. I like that. If their LU could be improved a little bit, I will visit there far more frequently.
This weekend the management organized a long meeting with all the girls in which the boss announced that Sharks was elected as the best FKK in Germany by the famous internet site. Who elected? ISG?
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1964811]I used to be a heavy-smoker until two years ago I quit smoking. Since then I noticed second-hand smoking bothering me more and more. It sometime significantly reduces my sexual desire. So recently I spent less than before in Sharks. Second-smoking also became a major reason I terminate session early if a girl requests smoking in the room. I stopped seeing my several regulars in Sharks this year because of this.
Second-hand smoking also do harm to girls health and beauty. Girls would age quickly in the indoor environment full of smoking. They knew that. Quite a few of my regulars at Sharks told me that they don't smoke cigarettes outside club, but inside club they smoke like chimney because peer pressures. Megan is one of few girls never smoke cigarettes. Because of this, I always offer her long-hour-session even if she is not my regular yet.
I know a lot of guys hate smoking too. I was in Sharks last weekend and met two guys from America. One of Their major complaints is the second-hand smoking. We all agreed if Sharks was a smoking-free club, we would mostly like to spend more money on girls. These two Americans are Sharks regulars, they told me they visited Sharks more than ten times a year.
Manhattan and Palace are the only smoke free clubs around Frankfurt area. I like that. If their LU could be improved a little bit, I will visit there far more frequently.[/QUOTE]Its especially unbearable during hot days. Shouldve a smoking area like Mainhatten.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1964811]... I noticed second-hand smoking bothering me more and more. It sometime significantly reduces my sexual desire. So recently I spent less than before in Sharks. Second-smoking also became a major reason I terminate session early if a girl requests smoking in the room. I stopped seeing my several regulars in Sharks this year because of this.[/QUOTE]It is not only the high degree of smoking everywhere, it is the constant high level of noise (music and television) everywhere in the club that adds to the tiring effects. BTW, some people call that "wellness".
I agree on the smoke. It is a real pity. Making me leave the Artemis lounge a million times in the past to just hang by that staircase or downstairs or in the boring cinemas. Don't feel it is close to as big of a problem in sharks with that high ceiling, but a club like Oceans does do it right by banning it indoors. I just wish all my favourites at Oceans had stopped smoking too, so I wouldnt have to sometimes go looking for them out in the freeze outside when it is not summer...
[QUOTE=NotSavvy;1964900]This weekend the management organized a long meeting with all the girls in which the boss announced that Sharks was elected as the best FKK in Germany by the famous internet site. Who elected? ISG?[/QUOTE]Which famous internet website? Or is it just a strategy to make girls stay and pay entry? 100 girls paying 100/120, make 10/12 thousands per day, nearly 4 millions per year. Just arithmetic, or truth?
[QUOTE=NickTheG;1964974]the constant high level of noise (music and television) everywhere in the club that adds to the tiring effects. BTW, some people call that "wellness".[/QUOTE]I love Sharks because of combination of few things.
Its club like atmosphere. Good spa facilities and delicious meals and the most important thing for me, the girls and their excellent behavior.
This place is fantastic and has everything that I love in one spot. Free smoking every where, loud club music, naked horny girls.
I have to add that when I'm at Sharks I'm there to party and not there only for the relaxation in wellness area.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1965018]Which famous internet website? Or is it just a strategy to make girls stay and pay entry? 100 girls paying 100/120, make 10/12 thousands per day, nearly 4 millions per year. Just arithmetic, or truth?[/QUOTE]When you have far too many girls, it is necessary to discourage them, especially the waste of space girls.
Charging them a lot is one way. How to attract the hot girls and keep out the undoable ones? Tricky thing.
Seems that mostly undoable ones are showing up in Sunday daytime. Must be 90% of customers on Sunday morning are also a waste of space. They pay money then socialise and no fuck.
I prefer a nice fuck before breakfast but hard to achieve if the talent is low. Barring the odd exception, the best girls do not show Sunday morning any more, as they know the place is swamped with locals who do not want to fuck. LOL Could be the talent is too poor so the locals can wait and wait till evening.
Its a chicken and egg situation. Which went bad first? The line up or the customers. I pretty much gave up on Sundays and heard that Wednesday has become diabolical too. Thursday and Friday look good. Saturday a bit weaker line up I think.
[QUOTE=Iranian;1965064]I love Sharks because of combination of few things.
Its club like atmosphere. Good spa facilities and delicious meals and the most important thing for me, the girls and their excellent behavior.
This place is fantastic and has everything that I love in one spot. Free smoking every where, loud club music, naked horny girls.
I have to add that when I'm at Sharks I'm there to party and not there only for the relaxation in wellness area.[/QUOTE]With all due respect, but the fact someone like you writes this (also given your user name), is the reason regular clubbers don't rate the current Sharks situation that much. Personally I've been with a few dozen of the girls currently at Sharks. The only ones I would really rate as "great" are Mia, Moira and Erica. And none of those are in my top 5 at the moment or anything.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1965091]When you have far too many girls, it is necessary to discourage them, especially the waste of space girls.
Charging them a lot is one way. How to attract the hot girls and keep out the undoable ones? Tricky thing.
Seems that mostly undoable ones are showing up in Sunday daytime. Must be 90% of customers on Sunday morning are also a waste of space. They pay money then socialise and no fuck.
I prefer a nice fuck before breakfast but hard to achieve if the talent is low.[/QUOTE]About same rate for girls at Sharks or Oase, 100/110/120, no selection for beauty in both, not Globe, the more girls, the more money for clubs, a girl worth 2 guys for entry.
When I enjoyed casting, I always enjoyed my Sundays at Sharks. It was often my third FKK day, after waking up at 5 am on Friday to make money, before driving 5 hours after work for a FKK Friday night until 4 or 5 am, a FKK Saturday from noon until 5 am and when I arrived early at Sharks on Sunday after driving in the night, as long I went with her, angel Sandra went to me smiling, and after the prettiest girl also went, smiling, with her blue eyes, so, even I m not an early guy and didn't sleep for 2 days, I couldn't resist to her beauty in day light, even was often tired so early. Then, on the afternoon, I often slept, standing up and eyes opened, like horses, and had a good second room in the evening when locals went home. Never had problem to have my girls on a Sunday and many good rooms with good girls on Sunday at this time.
For my last visits, Sharks and Oase castings are on same average level, quantity is not quality, but breakfast is better now at Oase, with bacon, strawberries and pancakes.
I was there for a few hours on a recent Sunday and witnessed the dilution of visual talent due to the influx of new girls. It was pretty unspectacular for Sharks standards. I did not see many familiar faces that are usually there on Sundays. I know a few girls have been kicked out but I wonder if others have left, or are just taking an early Christmas holiday. I know Sharks is giving the girls free entry for 10 days around Christmas so some girls have left early in order to capitalize on the 1000 E bonus.
Also not impressed with the many new girls. Most are just recycled from Oase and Palace. Of course none of the best girls from those clubs left, so Sharks is getting all of the ones who were not cutting it at their respective clubs.
[QUOTE=Takedown;1965123]Also not impressed with the many new girls. Most are just recycled from Oase and Palace. Of course none of the best girls from those clubs left, so Sharks is getting all of the ones who were not cutting it at their respective clubs.[/QUOTE]That's got to be pretty bad if they are not cutting it in Oase or Palace. I was wondering why there aren't so much mention of any new visual and / or service stars with such influx (high number) of girls being mentioned.
So, majority of the influx are from the nearby clubs? Did Sharks suck up some girls for the time being, and for what reason has this come about?
There has been mention of Oase business been down, and recent changes with food and discount entry is reaction of that likely.
For Palace, if there is no Messe, does the place even get that much business? Or has Messe crowds shifting more toward Sharks now a days?
What makes no sense is that there were mention of not whole lot of men for such influx of girls, but why would girls migrate to Sharks from other clubs? They must be migrating thinking Sharks would be a better bet than where they were coming from. That makes me think that other Hessen clubs are hitting slow times, and Sharks maybe doing decent business, but with girls migrating, they're going to face competition with such a high influx of girls.
So, with the big 5, there will always be competition, but seems the clubs are not at a stable state. Sharks became a magnet of some sort.
Also, with the entry fees and so high ratio of girls to men, why is the club being influxed with girls? Don't they know that more competition for them means, more divided earnings(and decreases the number of potential clients per girl)? Perhaps it's was just a temporary swell that happened simultanely for short duration, and mellow down as the girls realize the earning potentials.
Has has the graph of influx of girls per time looking? Has it leveled down now? If it did, how long did the swell last? Still going on, and is there specific days of the week this occurs to full extreme?
[QUOTE=Takedown;1965123]I know a few girls have been kicked out but I wonder if others have left, or are just taking an early Christmas holiday. I know Sharks is giving the girls free entry for 10 days around Christmas so some girls have left early in order to capitalize on the 1000 E bonus.
[/QUOTE]So you are saying a percentage of girls will take time off a head of time and come back for the holiday incentives? Has this happened in the past? During what times has this happened and approximately what percentage of the LU?
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1965165]That's got to be pretty bad if they are not cutting it in Oase or Palace. I was wondering why there aren't so much mention of any new visual and / or service stars with such influx (high number) of girls being mentioned.
So, majority of the influx are from the nearby clubs? Did Sharks suck up some girls for the time being, and for what reason has this come about?
[/QUOTE]From the Sharks mgt pov all they care about is the increase in revenue / bottom line. At some point its going to backlash bc of reputational risk by taking in all the girls that lack optic and provide mediocre service e. G. New Nastia girl, LOL.
Unless Sharks can survive on the tourists alone in the long haul revenue will likely decline as locals search for better deals. Even tourists might do so especially with the new law next yr.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1965176]From the Sharks mgt pov all they care about is the increase in revenue / bottom line.[/QUOTE]Any business is looking to profit as much as they can. When there are motivators like competitions, they will try to out-do each or in some respects to draw in more customers.
So, food wasn't really all that important back in the days or early days when there were the 1 club around with no competition. Along comes a new club that opens up. Facilities are new and better, and they offer food, buffet in the entry, but still the food quality is not good. Along comes another club, and this time, they club tries to out-do the prior clubs with better food, pool, etc. Etc. Hence the evolution. Not at the point where the food is a regular thing, and quality is better.
Businesses can try to pull in better profit by volume instead of high pricing (this happens when there are competitions to beat them), and they can make higher profits on margin, and also lower the competitors revenue. Turkish clubs at the NRW that offers low entry are good examples of this. Why this works well for those clubs is that there is a large market of the Turkish clients that is looking for a pricepoint, and once it's hit, they will get a big volume of the clients.
200+ girls coming in is still revenue so, that also works in the club's favor in revenue with quantity of of clients at a steady count.
I don't know how smart the marketing team at these FKks really are. In the case of Oceans, their results show they went in blindly then knowing the market (environment, competitions, clientel types). Some are better at it than others.
All this depends on scenarios. Management styles are different. Some clubs strive for regular clientel as they are the potential targets that works best for them. A club trying to gain more regulars to tourists will tend to have better service levels. Mangement being more involved in club activities, etc.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1965204]
200+ girls coming in is still revenue so, that also works in the club's favor in revenue with quantity of of clients at a steady count.
I don't know how smart the marketing team at these FKks really are. In the case of Oceans, their results show they went in blindly then knowing the market (environment, competitions, clientel types). Some are better at it than others.
All this depends on scenarios. Management styles are different. Some clubs strive for regular clientel as they are the potential targets that works best for them. A club trying to gain more regulars to tourists will tend to have better service levels. Mangement being more involved in club activities, etc.[/QUOTE]Quality control on the service level provided by new gals otherwise its going to affect the long term standard. Locals can always stick to her favs but for most I assume it gets boring going with the same girl over and over. These will likely look somewhere else which might cause fewer visitors or they might not be affected as the only attend when its cheap entry to eat, sleep, touch gals for free, LOL.
If biz slows down I. E. Less visitors then sooner or later less girls will attend as well (self reinforcing cycle). Under normal conditions the market will adjust I. E. Those gals that provide bad service wud go belly up and leave the market but bc of the tourists the self correcting market mechanism isn't working properly.
I just know that I will bring my biz where I get the most value, LOL.
[QUOTE=Takedown;1965123]I was there for a few hours on a recent Sunday and witnessed the dilution of visual talent due to the influx of new girls. It was pretty unspectacular for Sharks standards. I did not see many familiar faces that are usually there on Sundays. I know a few girls have been kicked out but I wonder if others have left, or are just taking an early Christmas holiday. I know Sharks is giving the girls free entry for 10 days around Christmas so some girls have left early in order to capitalize on the 1000 E bonus.
Also not impressed with the many new girls. Most are just recycled from Oase and Palace. Of course none of the best girls from those clubs left, so Sharks is getting all of the ones who were not cutting it at their respective clubs.[/QUOTE]Most of good business girls prefer to return to their family for Christmas and New Year and they are right to enjoy a bit their private life after so difficult job, so, even free entry, should make stay mostly second ranking girls looking for new business, with a gay Sylvester party, good for guys who like so much to speak about other guys.
Sundays had quite good castings until this Summer. Had top level Roberta. Ro, classy Ilka, in July and tornado Leila in end of August.
Really seem, club try to make maximum money with as many as possible girls entry. How many are attractive and good skill?
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1965204]I don't know how smart the marketing team at these FKks really are.[/QUOTE]For sure they can't compete with your type of smartness.
On the other hand they are smart enough to feel and understand your urgent needs. They attract minds like you and take your money, allowing you to enter into your world of desires.
Tourists allow too many girls to get away with Lip kissing or LFK where the locals won't stand for it at all? Is that right?
This is why we see a decline in Service. Tourists find the ordinary service to be great. The locals do not.
We need someone to list all the girls that DFK for 50 and those that DFK conditionally, and those that never do. I too have met the lip kissing girls only. Gave up Sascha for example who was always jerking away supposedly certain I was going to try to put the tongue in. Actually I am a nice guy. I never force girls to do what they are not comfortable with. I move so slowly, escape is easy without jerking.
A so called name and shame list. I am sure the well known super girls must be giving good DFK, or can girls be very popular without it?
Being a 1 hour customer I don't know who DFK kisses for 50.
So I am a very tongue oriented person. Lip kissing is not going to get me as a regular. I clean the tongue carefully. Its much easier to take than a big dick.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1965245]We need someone to list all the girls that DFK for 50 and those that DFK conditionally, and those that never do.[/QUOTE]I name you to be that one! What an heroic job to do. Especially with a clean tongue. I am sure you are willing and ready to invest several hundreds of Euro (or more) to supply this forum with that important information. Thanks for working for the community!
But keep in mind that results might be different for people without clean tongues or those who speak with the girls in their mother tongue.
Syzgies, I am surprised that Sascha did not end up well with you. I was with her recently and had one of the best sessions with her.
She was very easy going, she was in for everything as long as one paid for it.
Ofcourse DFK and deepDFK with passion was part of the regular service and I did not pay for it as extras. I hope we are talking of the same one.
Sascha sits behind the bar, in between the cinema and stairs, on the sofas. She is slim and dark haired girl. Another one up in the order for excellent service is Catarina / Katarina, she wears glasses at times. What say.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1965245]Tourists allow too many girls to get away with Lip kissing or LFK where the locals won't stand for it at all? Is that right?
This is why we see a decline in Service. Tourists find the ordinary service to be great. The locals do not.
We need someone to list all the girls that DFK for 50 and those that DFK conditionally, and those that never do. I too have met the lip kissing girls only. Gave up Sascha for example who was always jerking away supposedly certain I was going to try to put the tongue in. Actually I am a nice guy. I never force girls to do what they are not comfortable with. I move so slowly, escape is easy without jerking.
A so called name and shame list. I am sure the well known super girls must be giving good DFK, or can girls be very popular without it?
Being a 1 hour customer I don't know who DFK kisses for 50.
So I am a very tongue oriented person. Lip kissing is not going to get me as a regular. I clean the tongue carefully. Its much easier to take than a big dick.[/QUOTE]
I always saw Sasha sitting close to where I always stay at Sharks, we were sharing couch with Selena and her, close to Janine and lockers. Slim brunette Sasha looked friendly but no spark for me.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1965245]We need someone to list all the girls that DFK for 50 and those that DFK conditionally, and those that never do. I too have met the lip kissing girls only. Gave up Sascha for example who was always jerking away supposedly certain I was going to try to put the tongue in. Actually I am a nice guy. I never force girls to do what they are not comfortable with. I move so slowly, escape is easy without jerking.
[/QUOTE]If someone gets to gather the information by Anonymous peoples, why not. But normally it is a mission impossible. Because customers / members do not tell the truth about their experience. They claim to have a better service than others to vent their quality as a man LOL.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1965245]A so called name and shame list. I am sure the well known super girls must be giving good DFK, or can girls be very popular without it?
Being a 1 hour customer I don't know who DFK kisses for 50.[/QUOTE]Same for me.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;1965257]Syzgies, I am surprised that Sascha did not end up well with you. I was with her recently and had one of the best sessions with her.
She was very easy going, she was in for everything as long as one paid for it.
Ofcourse DFK and deepDFK with passion was part of the regular service and I did not pay for it as extras. I hope we are talking of the same one.
Sascha sits behind the bar, in between the cinema and stairs, on the sofas. She is slim and dark haired girl. Another one up in the order for excellent service is Catarina / Katarina, she wears glasses at times. What say.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Based on the location you mentioned, I am thinking the Sascha you like is the one who came over from Oase. I too liked her very much and she gives very good service. However, she took the name Maya at Sharks as she told me. There is another Sascha, who sits by the Janine couches, and goes around offering duos with Sidonia and hangs out with Sonia. This other Sascha is also black haired, skinny, small tilts, and cute face. Not sure which of these two you are talking about.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1965245]
We need someone to list all the girls that DFK for 50 and those that DFK conditionally, and those that never do. I too have met the lip kissing girls only. [/QUOTE]No we don't, because then some girls in a power group will start implementing rules to freeze out the kissers. Happened at Artemis. Bad atmosphere. So I am keeping most kissing activity to myself.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1965322]No we don't, because then some girls in a power group will start implementing rules to freeze out the kissers. Happened at Artemis. Bad atmosphere. So I am keeping most kissing activity to myself.[/QUOTE]What we need is a simple list that states all girls who give good service for 50. They will get guaranteed customers which I believe would be more important to them than being frozen out by their peers who give poor service.
Those lists are useless.
HB.
Not realistic. Are there enough punters that has sessioned with enough girls to provide info of such scales. As been mentioned, some punters are most inclined toward their regular girls.
A regular that attends a lot can try out more girls than the avg. This varies by punters. A regular may know other regulars that let them aware of girls they have not been with. But, there is still some potential of different taste in service styles, and conditions that the services may not come out exactly as predicted. More reports and more punters that has tried, builds up the confidence to be a consistanly good provider.
Before, punters has listed girls they've been with and scored by number their opinions on different aspects of the girl's services and looks. If more details are provides like some German reports that get more specific, and that is the standard reporting scheme. That will provide the info. Not sure a lot of punters are willing to provide to such degree or some may shy away from providing anything about girls services at all.
Also, dunno if labeling them with pricing is such a good idea. For us punters mayne if they are static, but for the girls, I dunno. Also, how money are spent is a bit complex. How much spent can vary depending on scenarios, not only service.
As a punter that does not know the girls all that well or looking to try a girl for the first time, 100 Euro requirement isn't ideal. You really don't know if the session is worthy of such extension. If a girl doesn't restrict in that manner, she will get the benefit of the doubt and its not restrive for punters to try her out.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1965335]Those lists are useless.
.[/QUOTE]+1 LU lists are ok but evaluation of service even optic forget it.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1965165]has Messe crowds shifting more toward Sharks now a days?[/QUOTE]Seems like that has some truth. That is what one Palace girl, Melania (bottle blond German with silicone), also said. I think she did not stay at Sharks for very long.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1965165]What makes no sense is that there were mention of not whole lot of men for such influx of girls, but why would girls migrate to Sharks from other clubs? They must be migrating thinking Sharks would be a better bet than where they were coming from. That makes me think that other Hessen clubs are hitting slow times, and Sharks maybe doing decent business, but with girls migrating, they're going to face competition with such a high influx of girls.[/QUOTE]Also seems to be true. As stated before, Sharks lets girls come and go as the please, so declining volume of clients this time of year at most clubs combined with the Sharks hype and freedom seem to be why most girls are coming.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1965165]So you are saying a percentage of girls will take time off a head of time and come back for the holiday incentives? Has this happened in the past? During what times has this happened and approximately what percentage of the LU?[/QUOTE]I do not know the answers to all of those questions but yes many girls will come back specifically for that incentive. As far as I know, this is the first year that they are doing it.
A lot of locals take Janine. Does this show that she must be giving good service including DFK? Perhaps only to the locals?
Just kidding. Obviously YMMV.
Nothing is really simple.
The girls should already know which girls give good DFK. By reading reports and by knowing the customers that repeat girls. Many girls know I like DFK even before I session with them. Many girls will know I take 1 hour also.
I don't see all the good service girls being frozen out. Maybe the BB girls are having problems if becomes known.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1965477]Maybe the BB girls are having problems if becomes known.[/QUOTE]Depends on the club. At some clubs yes but usually they don't get problems at Sharks. I know some Sharks girls in that category working for years at carp pond.
I spent M+Tues, and then Friday and Saturday at Sharks in November.
Normally I split my days between Sharks and Oase, either 2/2 or 3/1 but to a transportation snafu, I was limited to Sharks all 4 days of my visit this time. Kinda bummed I missed Oase, as Sharks was not worth a four day trip based on the lineup.
Some observations.
This was my first ever visit to Sharks on a Monday, and they had a sufficient number of girls even on that day, my guess would be between 60 to 80. Tuesday, the number might have increased a bit more.
Is the recent hype about 200 girls true? My guess is, it probably is. I counted 60+ girls on the list here, and although that is over 4 days, many were present on multiple days. And for every girl I knew or found out her name, there might have been 2 or more who I did not talk to, know their names. So, 200 is not unlikely.
Still, the Sharks quality is clearly poorer relative to times past. My big regret is not having either Tatiana or Aylice in the club. The latter has been away for a while I guess, but Tatiana is away for a short period and will be back soon. My bad luck that I missed her both in my September visit and now. Total shame, that.
There were room waits in the nights but not extreme. I never saw lines stretching down the stairs as Ortos said during his Wednesday visit; at worst 2 to 3 couples in the queue. And in any case, the red couches outside VIP room were quite available. If people are so shy that they do not want to partake in public sex on those couches, and whine about room waits, I have *zero* sympathy for them.
I was in the room 14 times with 14 different girls. Quite unusual for me, as I normally repeat multiple times with a few favorites and the number of girls tends to be smaller than the number of sessions. But with both of my stars being away, I spread my sessions evenly.
The following are some girls whose names I knew or found out during this trip.
Maya, ex Sascha Oase.
Bianca.
Roaxana.
Jessica.
Linda.
Karina.
Nelli.
Nisha. Hungarian, slightly sagging tits, 163 cm, cute face.
Ami. Moldavian, cute upturned nose, blonde, see size tits.
Sylvana.
Cecilia. Big natural tits, sagging, long black hair.
Nadine. Blonde, see sized tits, smiling face, sits at Megan's couches.
Patricia, Bulgarian, now fake silicone tits.
Greek Yelena.
Mara.
Malenia.
Dora, tall blonde, sagging tits.
Larissa.
Suthinella.
Ellen petite, nice sized tits, tight nod.
Nikki. Brunette, C sized tits, cute face, flower shaped tats on left arm.
Corina and Sara. Blonde duo.
Gia. Petite, brunette, perky small tits, cute face, slightly big butt otherwise great bod.
Carla. Blonde, slightly taller than Gia, also perky small tits, cute face.
Simona, tight bod, brunette, nice and perky tits, face just 5 otherwise bod is great.
Sophia. Brownish / blonde, pretty face, hangs out with Greek Yelena and others at the German table.
Sonia. Hanging out with Sascha and Sidonia, blonde, be to see cup size.
Antonella, nice body, blondish hair, smallish tits, face good far from from closeup, teeth a bit crooked.
Mandi. Blonde, be to see cup tits, from Stuttgart.
Anja. Albanian / Rom.
Arianna and Soranna. Medium height brunette and taller girl with a brownish / blondish hair.
Emilia approx 165 cm, brownish hair.
Michaela. Long black hair, MILF look, 28/29, very new in the business.
Teresa. Tall, 173 cm, dark hair, baby face.
Esther.
Mary and Natalia blonde duo.
Christa. Dark hair. Goes around with Nicole / Ramona.
Sascha. Small tits, nice body, Brunette.
Ellie. Cuban.
Evie. Bulgarian, Patricia's sister.
Alice.
Andra.
Steffi.
Megan.
Evelina slim tall brown haired pretty girl.
Catalina, ex Oase Sabina.
Naya.
Janine.
Jeannine.
Evita.
Lily.
Romena.
Ivona.
Alice.
Karina.
Jellis.
Alma Romanian MILF.
Mia slim blonder small tits, boy cut hair.
Brianna.
Lis sister of Leoni.
Milana.
Jasmine.
Moira.
Phoebe Thai.
Perla.
Sana. Big breasted German blond, goes around with another big breasted blonde tattoos all over body.
Blonde maya.
Thai Alex ex Oase.
Brown haired skinny Melanie with glasses.
Madeline.
Ruby. Skinny blonde, half Italian half Rom.
Mandy. Sessioned with her on Tuesday. Got there a bit early. Was walking around and ran into her. Physically, her body is almost exactly my spec, and face is cute and pleasant enough but not my ideal. But when she told me her name, I remembered that I read good stuff about her and had the good sense to immediately take her to the room. Have to second what others say. WOW! God bless this girl. She simply attacked me sexually. No other way to put it. She was constantly kissing and trying to DFK. Blow job is just wow. BLS for nearly 15 straight min. How this woman has this much energy to feign interest and be engaged to this degree with an endless parade of ugly old men is beyond me, but she is just totally awesome. I thought Sandra used to give great service, but I have never seen someone like Mandy, at least in my 4 years of clubbing. If I were her boyfriend in real life, I would be worn out in a few days and crying uncle. Unfortunately, she was not in on Friday or Saturday, and her friend told me that Mandy comes in on Sunday-Wednesday. Normally, with most girls, I pet and cuddle, chat a little, suck and fuck and build up gradually, but with this girl, it was sex at express pace from beginning to the end, no small talk whatsoever. Holy cow, what a girl!
Milana. I had sessioned with her on her very second day in her FKK career, almost exactly one year ago. And since then, our paths never crossed. So, I was happy to see her on Saturday. I had just come out of the room with her friend Lis, took a shower and came out and there she was, chatting with Lis. I went up to her, said Hi and reminded about being with her one year ago (she had only a vague memory) and told her to keep a slot open for me later. She was busy for a couple of hours, but I found her again around 5 PM and this time I took her to the room. She is a very intelligent woman, excellent English, and a strong personality. Lovely lady all around. Great body. Face may be 7 but body is 9. Great service. DFK is definitely on offer. Fantastic blow job and BLS. It felt like the most natural resting place for my dick was her mouth. Great deep throat technique. Great fuck, nice strong pussy muscles, made all the better with years of Kagels. I really wanted to do a repeat with her, and told her as much, but this is a very busy woman and she was not seen again. She is not as ferocious as Mandy, but really she is not in anyway inferior and she has improved tremendously from one year ago. If you want her, take her as soon as you see, for she is likely to be booked for hours and hours, not dissimilar to Mandy.
Lis. Blonde big tits German girl from Berlin. At Sharks for 5 months now, but first time I saw her on Saturday. She says she is in the club only a few days in the month, otherwise studying in Berlin. Good friend of Mandy. Her sister worked at the club in the past, and went by the name Leoni? Don't remember sessioning with her sister, but Lis is great in her own right. She has a pleasant smiling face, speaks English very well, and is an intelligent charming young lady. She was my first session of the day, and she waited patiently and chatted amicably while I finished my coffee and off we went. Her blow job and BLS are just as good as Milana's. Getting deep throat while she kept it down for minutes at a time in her mouth, shit this is what life is supposed to be. As with Milana DFK is clearly offered and generously. After endless amounts of deep throat BJ and other foreplay, she rode me to a climax. Just an all around great gal, and a total sweetheart. I wish I had the energy to do a repeat with her later in the night, unfortunately after 4'days of clubbing I was exhausted and went home and missed out on a repeat with her. Highly recommended. BTW, fans of Leoni can be glad that she is doing very well, per Lis. Definite repeat.
Maya. Ex Oase Sascha. I had 2 very fabulous sessions with Maya at Oase in September. She is 25 but only a year or so in the sex business. She actually has a good resemblance to the other Maya in Oase. Brunette, who tied her hair in a pony tail, 165 cm or so, small tits, slim but not too skinny. Doesn't pursue customers aggressively but waits for them to come to her. Sweet girl, really. I reminded her of our two sessions at Oase, but she had only a vague recollection. Anyway, I took her as my first session on Monday, and the very first on this trip. Unfortunately, being the first also meant I did not last a full hour, which I intended to spend with her. I wanted to do a repeat with her, but was too jet lagged from a long flight and went home early. She said she works 5 days a week and skips Friday and Sat, due to the excessive number of girls.
Bianca. She has been covered well enough in reports here. Definitely one of the prettiest girls at Sharks at the moment. I don't agree with the assessment that she has a big ass, to me she is quite OK. Waist up, she is world class, and face is pretty enough. She is a good friend of Esther, and like her friend is a great looker and service levels acceptable but not great. But the optics are generally good enough to offset the lack of heat, and I was happy to finish in half HR.
Romena. A blonde Romanian, approx 22 years old. New to me, I guess she is relatively new to the Sharks club as well. Don't remember where she had worked previously. Pretty round face, medium height, smallish firm tits, and not a model's body but not plump by any means. We went and fucked on the red couches in front of the VIP room upstairs, with a couple of audience, and I was happy to climax.
Ellen. This was my second session with her, having been with her in September. I don't see her name mentioned here at all, and don't think she is on many people's minds. I liked her because I like petite, slim, small firm natural tit girls with cute faces. She must one of the smallest girls at Sharks at the moment. She is surprisingly busy for someone who is not discussed here at all. She must some sort of shark as well, because she seems to churn her clients around very quickly. She appears to be grabbing new ones, taking them to the room and coming down in less than half HR, and does it again. Not sure why she is having so much success in attracting so many clients so quickly. Perhaps there are many people like me, fans of petite slim girls. Anyway, I took her for the second time. I remembered her pussy fit was good for me, and I finished with her in my prior session after not having climaxed with 2 or 3 other girls. She seemed to have zero recollection of me. Not much vibe. She makes very little or no talk at all, although her English is not bad at all. She refuses to lie down for a little petting, which is my first thing in the room. Don't think DFK is on offer, at least for half HR session. I don't initiate kissing with any of my girls except my true superstar regulars, but the ones who generously offer DFK, such as Mandy and Milana kiss me voluntarily even if I keep my lips closed (Mandy was aggressively pushing her tongue inside my mouth for example). Well, Ellen is all business. Takes a Clorox wipe to cleanse my dick, even if I was freshly showered and smelling nice. Gives a perfunctory BJ for a few min. I say I want more of BJ and not ready for a fuck, but she totally ignores me as if I was not a party to that particular discussion. Mounts a condom and rides. One thing I can say is this girl can fuck. She rides non stop cow girl for 15 min. I still can't come, not even a remote sign it's about to happen. I tell her, honey, a climax is not on cards, let's take a few min rest and try again. She is in no mood. Removes the condom and begins jacking off pretty rough. Ouch darling, that's my dick and not a weed you are plucking off in the backyard. Are you trying to separate it from my torso? She does not get it. After another two min of this torture, thank you that's enough, let's say goodnight. No problem. At least she didn't demand a tip, and gives a small peck on the cheek. Unlikely to repeat.
Megan. Well, a visit to Sharks is not complete w / o a room with Megan. At this point, we are like a couple of old buddies, getting together for a fuck for old time's sake. She looks as radiant as ever. Getting close to her 21st birthday now, she happily tells me. She keeps going to her home town much more frequently than other Romie girls, even this week she is back home for a few days, but going away in late December and away all of January. She looked delectable in her little outfit on the dessous day, but I still could not wait to get it off her. For me a session with Megan is a lot more than sex. A bit of petting, cuddling, necking, some smooching on the lips, some kissing all over the body and she reciprocates, and then a BJ and some sex. Lots of chatting in between and these days she is happy to be doing more of the chatting than the sex. Is she tired and not in the mood for sex? Perhaps. She did seem more stressed than normal. She mentioned that there are too many girls on the weekend, not enough sessions, and seems frustrated that money is not coming in at the pace she hoped for. As always, a session with Megan is a big pleasure but somehow, this time I was a little less than super thrilled. Didn't take a repeat session with her, even though she was available on Friday and Saturday.
Nelli. To me, Model look Nelli is one of the 5 best lookers at Sharks at the moment, others being Tatiana, Janine, Megan, and Evita (OK, fire away your flaming arrows). I had sessioned with her once in September and I found her in the club on all 4 days of my visit. She is not all that busy either, despite her service being pretty decent, so obviously many people disagree with my assessment of her looks plus service. She is usually hanging out at the bar near the kitchen entrance. Fabulous body, pretty decent face. Pleasant and nice. Not a shark at all. I don't know if she DFKs, I am pretty happy with Light smooches on the lips. My guess is, for those so inclined, she is happy to DFK if it stretches beyond 30 min. Spent a nice long HR with her, leisurely suck and fuck, lots of necking, rubbbing, massaging, some chatting. I was a bit tired, it was a late night session on a Friday. She remembered our prior session, and provided a good service accordingly. She is a Megan type girl for me. Not likely to be too passionate, not going to be the next Aylice or Tatiana for me, but "a must session at least once per trip to Germany" kinda girl.
Ivonna, or Yvonna. Cute round faced Romanian girl, nice tits, OK body. Under different circumstances I would not have gone with her, not my type strictly speaking, but despite being in a club with allegedly 200 girls as I walked into Sharks around 8 PM on Friday night, I found the pickings slim, and became despondent and took this girl to the room. Was there anything outstanding or memorable about this session? Not really. In fact, in a few months, I suspect I ever sessioned with this girl unless I refer back to my report here. It was a standard 30'min session, never indented to take it to the 60th min, and she knew it too, and in return provided her standard 30/50 session, which means a bit suck, a little fuck, a few forced smiles, terminating around 20-22nd min. Could she perhaps provide better service and session to someone else? Perhaps, if it is a 60/100 session and for someone who finds her more attractive than I did. No regrets but unlikely to repeat unless the club is severely depleted.
Esther. I find Esther good looking and attractive enough, w / o ever becoming super excited about her. She gets my dick hard, and enough to keep it hard for 15 min. This was my third or fourth session with her in a year, but I never took her for an hour, and don't think I ever will. She noticed that one time I stayed with Aylice for 4 hrs straight and keeps asking me why I don't take her for a similarly long session (I should do my best impression of Lloyd Bensten "because, well, I kissed Aylice, I fucked Aylice, and you Esther, you are no Aylice", LOL). Esther is also one of those girls who I find to be super sexy from 20 feet away but much less so when she is six inches from my face. Nevertheless, she is a reasonable option when I need a quick fuck when I am depressed that none of my good girls and first options are around. I took her to the room as my last session on Friday and I was quite tried. We did a quick suck and fuck but after the 15th min, I lost my hard on, and we terminated it soon after. I don't think I had ever experienced a climax with Esther. Unless she is my first session after being away from FKK for four months, that situation (not climaxing with her) is unlikely to be rectified.
Ruby. A slim, attractive blond, half Rom half Italian. Said she comes to the club only on the weekends, all the way from Italy where she is studying. This was the last session of my trip. I was really looking around for a repeat with Milana but she was busy with someone else. I was a bit tired and prior couple of sessions I could not pop. Did not want to go home w / o one last finish, and knew another run of the mill room with a so so girl was not going to cut it for me. Went to get some tea at the bar, and this blonde was sitting with a bored look on her face. The place was humming with the loud music which I had heard only a hundred times repeated in the previous four days. Too many girls and guys, but not enough fornication going on. Girls were desperately going around, but not many worth taking a chance on. The blonde looked quite pretty. Found her name, a bit of history, and asked her if she minds fucking on the red couches outside the VIP room. She chuckles and says no problem. Waits patiently while I finish my tea and I said let's go. The room door is closed and I was concerned they had shut it down but when I turn the handle it opens. There were two other couples fucking away gloriously. My kind of place. In fact, one dude was busy with two girls. The middle couch is open. She is slightly hesitant but I said let's go. We jump on the couch, cuddle and she starts blowing me. I was so rock hard with excitement, and she claims "honey how much Viagra did you OD on?" How about none, it is the thrill of being in the middle of public orgy and feeling like I am a porn star in a stage? LOL. Anyway, to my disappointment, the dude with the two girls has wrapped up and leaves before we get down to do the nasty. The other couple is a Turkish guy fucking the wild, Romie with a lot of tattoos, a MILF who has been around for a long time and who has a very gypsy look. She seems to be fucking someone or other in these same red couches, whenever I am partaking in the public sex myself. I am sure she knows me and my proclivity for public debauchery. After some minutes, I ask Ruby to mount me, which she happily complies with. Disappointingly, the Turkish dude and the gypsy woman finish their deed, and leaving. The dude wants to watch, takes a couple of looks at us, and leaves reluctantly. I should have told him, it's OK guy, take a chair over yonder. Anyway, it's just me and ruby to finish our now lonely fuck, which we do. Even w / o audience, I manage to climax, a happy result of prior spectators. I went down, cleaned up, get some drink by the waterfall, and ponder if I should pursue another suck and fuck session for the night. Milana was nowhere in sight. Even Lis is not around. Ruby is doing rounds with another, darker skin short hair girl. For a min, I contemplated if I should take Ruby for a second spin in the sack, or more accurately red couches, and hope that there might be more audience. I know she fits me well, with her slim build and nice tight pussy. But four days of clubbing, and 14 sessions are enough, and I am weary. So I went, packed up and left.
A couple of more sessions. One was with a long time girl of mine who forbade me from writing about here. To my consternation, she was tipped off about my identity by someone I met in the club. Anyway, the girl and the session were good, but I will refrain from writing about her, and keep the promise I made. The second, well, the other session was the most disgusting, infuriating session I have ever had. The girl was actually someone I had sessioned with 2 or 3 times in the past. In 4 years, I had my fair share of lousy sessions, scam artists, upsell girls, and dirty trickers, but this session was so revoltingly horrible and vile, I was shaking with anger. For the first time ever, I went up to the front desk, and the nice old lady (theke) came down to hunt for who the girl was. Pointed her out in the middle of a throng, she gets dragged to the theke's room, the boss gets called down, and I told him what happened, and then this girl fabricates the most preposterous lies ever to cover up her disgusting actions. To their credit, Sharks management is very professional, tells the girl she is lying, and offer me compensation. I told them it was not about money, hand him the 50 for the session and tell him to give it to the girl (as I did not want to even see her face anymore; he kept saying she did not deserve any money) decline the compensation he offered, and thank him and left. Whole thing was such a sour taste in my mouth. Thankfully, I can remember so many good sessions fondly, and be happy that this was a horrible exception. I wish to not give any more details than this. I do however want to give full props to the Sharks management, both the theke and the boss are very cordial, professional, and courteous.
In addition to missing Tatiana, and also Aylice, some other old sweethearts were missing. Sandra was not in. Would have been nice to see Arianna even if she is not a top girl for me. Janine was in in Friday night but was busy with her exclusive client as usual. They do seem like a couple of love birds. Her dude seemed slightly inebriated in the end, and Janine tenderly opened the money locker for him, he paid her, she locked it up and he seemed embarrassed, and she tenderly walked him to the front desk to get him checked out, etc. Very touching intimacy, LOL. Anyway, all this meant I had no shot with her, as she left right after he did. Aurelia is also long gone.
I finally figured out who Mia and Moira are. As I suspected, I had seen them tons of times, but never knew their names. Obviously read a lot about their service levels, but unfortunately found neither to be my optical spec, so passed on them.
[QUOTE=Turgid;1965330]What we need is a simple list that states all girls who give good service for 50. They will get guaranteed customers which I believe would be more important to them than being frozen out by their peers who give poor service.[/QUOTE]Do we all have same expectations for good services? Some look for fast AO for 30, even out of RTC, regulars should understand, some look for foreplay and kissing for hours, some think prostitutes are too dirty to be kissed, we don't behave the same with girls and girls don't behave the same with us.
Go to girls who attract you and play your own game, maybe sometimes you will lose 50, then stop, next one, play again.
Thats a great report.
- Lis working and not at university. What can that mean? Don't they have exam periods in Germany at this time of year?
- Your Mandy report won't help on that wait and queue to get to her. To me she is the undisputed top sharks girl. Even facially. I didn't know she was friend of Lis though, but makes sense. They have some common personality traits.
- Funny we have completely opposite views of Esther. I find her to be attractive up close, but not at all from afar.
[QUOTE=NickTheG;1963953]Sure! It is always the same Daniela, and she gets younger every year and her hair gets darker every year!
Have you been at FKK-World lately and saw the present dark-haired Daniela? Or why are you asking?[/QUOTE]I have been with her a few times. Also recently. But, never thought she was 40.
Pistons,
I have to thank you, as more than anyone else you have mentioned Mandy more times around here, as far as I know. If not for reading here, I might have missed her, as optically she is not the type I go to room with immediately (although she is pretty darn good in looks in her own right). She really did remind of the Hall and Oates song.
She only comes out at night.
Watching and waiting.
She has the wild cat purr.
She will chew you up.
Money's the matter.
She is a man eater.
OK, I don't remember the full lyric, but "she will chew you up, she is a man eater" is so apt, when it comes to Mandy.
Normally I prefer the slow and sensual sex of Tatiana and Aylice (although they might be wild with other guys. I prefer it slow an gradual). But every guy deserves to have one session in life with a girl like Mandy, absolutely attacking you. This girl does not have NO in her vocabulary. You ask, she gives. All with a smile. I gave her a nice tip, which I will admit here at the risk of getting flamed, and my only regret is why I didn't keep going for a second and third climax and why I didn't give her a bigger tip. My excuse is that my mind went dead with all that wild sex.
Spent a week in Frankfurt and visited FKK Oase, Palace and Sharks. I will post Palace and Oase updates in those forums.
FKK Sharks: Visited on a Thursday. Reached around 7 pm and stayed until 11 pm.
Nice experience entering the club. Lot of space and great visibility. Girls were a mixed bag though. Some good looking ones but mostly older and heavier women who were not so pretty! Sharks seems to have poor quality control of the girls as compared to Oase (where all the girls were stunners). There were around 60-70 girls I think and lesser number of men. Settled in for a while and was approached by a nice Spanish girl Kristina. Agreed to standard 50 E BBBJ, CFS and some mild GFE action. She tried to hurry along and I tried to prolong, but she won with her expert techniques. I guess it was over in 15 minutes or so. Average experience. Did not repeat her.
Was constantly approached by an Italian girl Alexia a few times. She was persistent and promised much so agreed for a GFE session for 100 E. She was nice and slow in the room, very loving and sweet. She spent a lot of time on enjoyable BBJJ and upsold me CIM for 50 E. Overall damage 150 E. Experience was good.
Relaxed for a while after that. However most girls were ignoring the men and sitting together in the sofas lazily chatting among themselves, or sitting around the round bar. Girls hardly smile or look pleasant. Most of them look bored or arrogant. None came around to entice me, so I left early without trying any more.
While the experience with Alexia was good, the overall quality of girls is poor and they are not nice. Lighting in the club is low and it is very difficult to see girls or their assets clearly. Most girls were wearing corsets or other extra stuff hiding parts of their body. Oase is much better in quality of girls, lighting and club facilities. If I have time only for one club, I will pick Oase over Sharks.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1965575] the other session was the most disgusting, infuriating session I have ever had. The girl was actually someone I had sessioned with 2 or 3 times in the past. In 4 years, I had my fair share of lousy sessions, scam artists, upsell girls, and dirty trickers, but this session was so revoltingly horrible and vile, I was shaking with anger. For the first time ever, I went up to the front desk, and the nice old lady (theke) came down to hunt for who the girl was. Pointed her out in the middle of a throng, she gets dragged to the theke's room, the boss gets called down, and I told him what happened, and then this girl fabricates the most preposterous lies ever to cover up her disgusting actions. To their credit, Sharks management is very professional, tells the girl she is lying, and offer me compensation. I told them it was not about money, hand him the 50 for the session and tell him to give it to the girl (as I did not want to even see her face anymore; he kept saying she did not deserve any money) decline the compensation he offered, and thank him and left. Whole thing was such a sour taste in my mouth. Thankfully, I can remember so many good sessions fondly, and be happy that this was a horrible exception. I wish to not give any more details than this. I do however want to give full props to the Sharks management, both the theke and the boss are very cordial, professional, and courteous.[/QUOTE]Jnpr30, I do not understand why you do not post her name of the girl that you take to reception. If she is that bad then everyone should know.
I totally understand when you have car trouble. Such a bummer. ADAC.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1965575]I spent M+Tues, and then Friday and Saturday at Sharks in November.
Still, the Sharks quality is clearly poorer relative to times past. My big regret is not having either Tatiana or Aylice in the club. The latter has been away for a while I guess, but Tatiana is away for a short period and will be back soon. My bad luck that I missed her both in my September visit and now. Total shame, that.
I finally figured out who Mia and Moira are. As I suspected, I had seen them tons of times, but never knew their names. Obviously read a lot about their service levels, but unfortunately found neither to be my optical spec, so passed on them.[/QUOTE]So LU at Sharks are not beautiful to your taste? Better LU at Oase or Palace?
Bitumen,
I thought and debated about what is the right thing to do. Whether to write anything at all about that incident, or give full details about the girl and what she did, or not give details about the girl's name and what she did but focus on how the club management was generally supportive.
In the end, I went with the last option. Don't know if that was the best thing to do, but that's what I did.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1965575] as Sharks was not worth a four day trip based on the lineup.
Is the recent hype about 200 girls true? My guess is, it probably is.
My big regret is not having either Tatiana but Tatiana is away for a short period and will be back soon. My bad luck that I missed her both in my September visit and now. Total shame, that.
Corina and Sara. Blonde duo.
Mary and Natalia blonde duo.
Mandy. Sessioned with her on Tuesday. Got there a bit early. Was walking around and ran into her. Physically, her body is almost exactly my spec, and face is cute and pleasant enough but not my ideal. But when she told me her name, I remembered that I read good stuff about her and had the good sense to immediately take her to the room. Have to second what others say. WOW! God bless this girl. She simply attacked me sexually. No other way to put it. She was constantly kissing and trying to DFK. Blow job is just wow. BLS for nearly 15 straight min. How this woman has this much energy to feign interest and be engaged to this degree with an endless parade of ugly old men is beyond me, but she is just totally awesome. I thought Sandra used to give great service, but I have never seen someone like Mandy, at least in my 4 years of clubbing. If I were her boyfriend in real life, I would be worn out in a few days and crying uncle. Unfortunately, she was not in on Friday or Saturday, and her friend told me that Mandy comes in on Sunday-Wednesday. Normally, with most girls, I pet and cuddle, chat a little, suck and fuck and build up gradually, but with this girl, it was sex at express pace from beginning to the end, no small talk whatsoever. Holy cow, what a girl!
Sandra was not in.
Janine was in in Friday night but was busy with her exclusive client as usual. [/QUOTE]
Jnpr30,
Great report and thank you for sharing your keen insight and exploits on location.
Yup, last week the line up of Sharks was not worth to spend 4 days at this club. It was a better a bit before you were there. It was amazing. The Germans were exclaiming their surprise saying why go to any other club for a visit when all your days can be at the best there is in Hessen which is Sharks. Now that shine based on last week's line up has fallen.
Two weeks ago the hype of over 200 girls was correct. There were easily 200 girls there. I mean your list is close as good as mine and there was way more girls who I did not know or even recall.
I am sorry I cannot help you with Tatiana now. If I knew earlier. Then.
I am wondering if you managed to speak to the blonde haired duo where I had my eye on the slim tall platinum blonde one who would pass as Swedish but when she was spoken to in Swedish she did not understand so I suspect she was Romanian. This "Swedish looking" Romanian looked well hot and she looked like she would up sell you until Kingdom come and give you the crappiest session if you offered a 50 euro note only. But man, she looked so horny. She sometimes wore black or black / white stockings to her knees and had some tattoos. I never got her name. I hope you may know the one I am talking about and she is one of the four girls in the two blonde haired duos you mention.
So the blonde duo based on your information was either:
1. Corina and Sara. Blonde duo; or.
2. Mary and Natalia blonde duo.
Mandy is a great session. She was actually at Sharks on the Friday that you were there. I think she finished up around 8 pm maybe. She is normally done by 6 pm. You were right that Mandy was not in on Saturday.
Yes, it was nice to see how loving Janine and her regular man are together. Boyfriend and girlfriend together. May their romance blossom.
Sandra was in on Sunday. Mandy was not.
Mandy told me last time that she works on Sunday-Tuesday-Wednesday.
Bitumen,
Sorry, don't recall much about the two blonde duos. I don't think I talked to them much. In general, I hate duos. I wanted to take Sidonia a couple of times but she was constantly tag teaming with Sascha, and I never found her alone to ask. I guess I could have poached her away from a Sascha, and I actually saw one guy do precisely that, but I am a bit shy about things like that, and prefer the girl to approach me.
On Friday (and Wednesday and Thursday) I was in Barcelona till late afternoon and came into Sharks only at 8 PM. I guess Mandy left around the same time.
I am sure Badin will session with Tatiana soon and write glowing reports about her to make me jealous, LOL. Just kidding Badin, have fun with Tatiana, she is such a sweetheart.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1965845]Mandy told me last time that she works on Sunday-Tuesday-Wednesday.[/QUOTE]You may well be right but Mandy was not in on Sunday last but she was in on Tuesday and Friday too. So lets just say the days are random.
To me she said wed, fri, sun and sometimes mondays. I guess these days can change from time to time.
Nothing ever gets put in stone in this world anyway.
It seems she is a mindcontroller, or a siren of the sea. As soon as she gets a guy into the room, she just blows his mind away making him loose track of time. So when she gets done with him, he looks at his watch and realize they have just spent 8 hours in the room. 800 euro. It is the most worrysome aspect of that lady. Reminding me of one of the sirens (mermaids) pained on the wall at Oceans. Making you broke. lol
Jnpr30: np. Just as long as you dont take her away for too long when I return. lol. Last I was at Sharks I was told at reception that she was working there that day. I waited 6 hours in the Janine couch for her before I fell asleep. Some guy had gotten to her before I did apparently...
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1965575]I spent M+Tues, and then Friday and Saturday at Sharks in November.
Normally I split my days between Sharks and Oase, either 2/2 or 3/1 but to a transportation snafu, I was limited to Sharks all 4 days of my visit this time. Kinda bummed I missed Oase, as Sharks was not worth a four day trip based on the lineup.
[/QUOTE]Thanks Jnpr30! What a great report with names of girls present.
You should've named the girl and what she did. Good to see that Sharks mgt doing things rite.
Rly looking forward to check this Mandy girl out have put her on my hit list already, LOL.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1965842]Bitumen,
I thought and debated about what is the right thing to do. Whether to write anything at all about that incident, or give full details about the girl and what she did, or not give details about the girl's name and what she did but focus on how the club management was generally supportive.
In the end, I went with the last option. Don't know if that was the best thing to do, but that's what I did.[/QUOTE]We beg you to reconsider. We can't force you to name the girl but come on man, this is a public service announcement.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1965797]I have been with her a few times. Also recently. But, never thought she was 40.[/QUOTE]Next may be Sylvana or World short Asian MILF.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1965842]Bitumen,
I thought and debated about what is the right thing to do. Whether to write anything at all about that incident, or give full details about the girl and what she did, or not give details about the girl's name and what she did but focus on how the club management was generally supportive.
In the end, I went with the last option. Don't know if that was the best thing to do, but that's what I did.[/QUOTE]Jnp,
Maybe you could just explain what was her so wrong behavior, I guess so unrespectful, to make You take her to the desk? Far from lost angel behavior Aylice, away since this Summer.
After more than 400 days in FKK in 4 years, nearly as many as at fast efficiency job, I never took any girl to the desk, no girl never took me, we never even talk about desk with a girl, even I had a very bad room with tall brunette, very pretty Nina, working before in Spain, who was staying with Evita at this time. The only girl, I didn't go downstairs with, she was behind me asking if I would give her 50, I put off the condom myself and left the room after 20 mn, not waiting for her, total waste of time even she was a natural beauty, but only suck and fuck for small size. I gave her 50, a big tip, but didn't think about going to desk. I remembered Evita went straight to lockers to her and Mia came to me asking me if I didn't like Romanian girls? For sure, I don t like them, I only go with girls I don t like. Later, but few months ago, Mia asked me again why I never went to room? So I answered: only with Megan, she asked me: why? My answer: just look at her.
Maybe also why, I never felt fatal attraction for smiling, but fake blond look with lack of woman sensuality, Mandy. I don t say she is not pretty or good behavior, but my eyes have to wake up my desire and dreams. On first second, I saw Alice / Kate with her classy sophisticated new look, not like past photos, with her beautiful hair, her eyes and smile, her woman aura, I wanted her and waited for her for 6 hours because she was busy on a Monday afternoon, but I didn't regret my 2 rounds for 2 hours, returning home in the night with stars in the eyes lightening autobahn. Maybe she doesn't like I go with Isabella, but she was my only reason to go to Globe and return many times, so now I prefer to go when Isabella is off, not to hear about jealousy.
Mandy is "slightly" overrated for my taste. Optics wise and service wise. She's a cute small German girl with ok service. That's it.
HB.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1965846]Bitumen,
Sorry, don't recall much about the two blonde duos. I don't think I talked to them much. In general, I hate duos. I wanted to take Sidonia a couple of times but she was constantly tag teaming with Sascha, and I never found her alone to ask. I guess I could have poached her away from a Sascha, and I actually saw one guy do precisely that, but I am a bit shy about things like that, and prefer the girl to approach me.
On Friday (and Wednesday and Thursday) I was in Barcelona till late afternoon and came into Sharks only at 8 PM. I guess Mandy left around the same time.
I am sure Badin will session with Tatiana soon and write glowing reports about her to make me jealous, LOL. Just kidding Badin, have fun with Tatiana, she is such a sweetheart.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the great report Jnpr! I have been to Sharks so many times this year and I don't even know half of the people you listed! I need to talk to more girls instead of just going with my regular.
Ha ha, I hope to see Tatiana when I'm there again. Will definitely let you know how it goes 😛.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1965940]Mandy is "slightly" overrated for my taste. Optics wise and service wise. She's a cute small German girl with ok service. That's it.
HB.[/QUOTE]Maybe higher, compare to falling, touristic fucking, average level now for new Sharks standards? But at least, she is smiling and seems friendly, even never been with her. She may also behave from guy behavior, but seems to kiss without upselling.
I don't know if she worked at Oase before, but I remember clearly she mentioned her name Sascha and not maya. clearly its not the first one you mentioned.
Again, she sits in between the stairs and cinema on one of the couches with her group (2-4) of friends. One of her friends is very big and huge, big boob girl. Sascha asked me to go with her and convinced me she was as good as her, but she wasnt. In the next round with me Sascha made up for her friend's poor attitude/service by offering extras with no extra charge and above all superb GFE. Sascha could be performing duo with this big girl who knows. Don't know about sonia / sidonia either.
Yes she is black haired, skinny, small tits, cute face and above all excellent service. So it could be the latter as you mentioned. You know what, I am still dreaming of my time spent with her and catarina, they both are easily amongst the top 5 girls I ever had in all FKK together.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1965289]Based on the location you mentioned, I am thinking the Sascha you like is the one who came over from Oase. I too liked her very much and she gives very good service. However, she took the name Maya at Sharks as she told me. There is another Sascha, who sits by the Janine couches, and goes around offering duos with Sidonia and hangs out with Sonia. This other Sascha is also black haired, skinny, small tilts, and cute face. Not sure which of these two you are talking about.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1965575]I spent M+Tues, and then Friday and Saturday at Sharks in November.
Normally I split my days between Sharks and Oase, either 2/2 or 3/1 but to a transportation snafu, I was limited to Sharks all 4 days of my visit this time. Kinda bummed I missed Oase, as Sharks was not worth a four day trip based on the lineup.
Some observations.
The following are some girls whose names I knew or found out during this trip.
Maya, ex Sascha Oase.
Bianca.
Roaxana.
Jessica.
Linda.
Karina.
Nelli.
Nisha. Hungarian, slightly sagging tits, 163 cm, cute face.
Ami. Moldavian, cute upturned nose, blonde, see size tits.
Sylvana.
Cecilia. Big natural tits, sagging, long black hair.
Nadine. Blonde, see sized tits, smiling face, sits at Megan's couches.
Patricia, Bulgarian, now fake silicone tits.
Greek Yelena.
Mara.
Malenia.
Dora, tall blonde, sagging tits.
Larissa.
Suthinella.
Ellen petite, nice sized tits, tight nod.
Nikki. Brunette, C sized tits, cute face, flower shaped tats on left arm.
Corina and Sara. Blonde duo.
Gia. Petite, brunette, perky small tits, cute face, slightly big butt otherwise great bod.
Carla. Blonde, slightly taller than Gia, also perky small tits, cute face.
Simona, tight bod, brunette, nice and perky tits, face just 5 otherwise bod is great.
Sophia. Brownish / blonde, pretty face, hangs out with Greek Yelena and others at the German table.
Sonia. Hanging out with Sascha and Sidonia, blonde, be to see cup size.
Antonella, nice body, blondish hair, smallish tits, face good far from from closeup, teeth a bit crooked.
Mandi. Blonde, be to see cup tits, from Stuttgart.
Anja. Albanian / Rom.
Arianna and Soranna. Medium height brunette and taller girl with a brownish / blondish hair.
Emilia approx 165 cm, brownish hair.
Michaela. Long black hair, MILF look, 28/29, very new in the business.
Teresa. Tall, 173 cm, dark hair, baby face.
Esther.
Mary and Natalia blonde duo.
Christa. Dark hair. Goes around with Nicole / Ramona.
Sascha. Small tits, nice body, Brunette.
Ellie. Cuban.
Evie. Bulgarian, Patricia's sister.
Alice.
Andra.
Steffi.
Megan.
Evelina slim tall brown haired pretty girl.
Catalina, ex Oase Sabina.
Naya.
Janine.
Jeannine.
Evita.
Lily.
Romena.
Ivona.
Alice.
Karina.
Jellis.
Alma Romanian MILF.
Mia slim blonder small tits, boy cut hair.
Brianna.
Lis sister of Leoni.
Milana.
Jasmine.
Moira.
Phoebe Thai.
Perla.
Sana. Big breasted German blond, goes around with another big breasted blonde tattoos all over body.
Blonde maya.
Thai Alex ex Oase.
Brown haired skinny Melanie with glasses.
Madeline.
Ruby. Skinny blonde, half Italian half Rom.
.[/QUOTE]Very good report with list and performances. Such lists are probably not helpful to mongers who 'live' in the FKKs. But hobbyists like myself who visit occasionally will appreciate them. I have done my part but not as detailed as this report. I will certainly try to rectify that in my next visit which will be a long one next summer.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;1965971]I don't know if she worked at Oase before, but I remember clearly she mentioned her name Sascha and not maya. clearly its not the first one you mentioned.
Again, she sits in between the stairs and cinema on one of the couches with her group (2-4) of friends. One of her friends is very big and huge, big boob girl. Sascha asked me to go with her and convinced me she was as good as her, but she wasnt. In the next round with me Sascha made up for her friend's poor attitude/service by offering extras with no extra charge and above all superb GFE. Sascha could be performing duo with this big girl who knows. Don't know about sonia / sidonia either.
Yes she is black haired, skinny, small tits, cute face and above all excellent service. So it could be the latter as you mentioned. You know what, I am still dreaming of my time spent with her and catarina, they both are easily amongst the top 5 girls I ever had in all FKK together.[/QUOTE]I am quite sure the girl you and I like is ex Sascha of Oase now called Maya. Yes, she could be telling her name is still Sascha because heck, what's in a name anyway. The other Sascha who has been at Sharks for a longer time is the One who sits on the Janine couches and mostly does duos with Sidonia. She is slightly shorter than Sascha / Maya.
I agree that the Sascha you and I like, is a girl with superb service, and pretty good body and face is quite nice and as well. If she told you she has a son, she is definitely the one. (I had two fantastic sessions with her at Oase, once publicly in the gardens at the far end while a bunch of guys and naked girls played volleyball 20 feet away. I thought I could never exceed that crowing moment of my life, LOL.).
I did not gush a whole lot in this trip report about her, because she was my very first session of the trip, and I climaxed in 20-25 min, and never got a chance to session with her again. But she is a total gem, on par with Milana and Lis in my view.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1965575]
There were room waits in the nights but not extreme. I never saw lines stretching down the stairs as Ortos said during his Wednesday visit; at worst 2 to 3 couples in the queue. And in any case, the red couches outside VIP room were quite available. If people are so shy that they do not want to partake in public sex on those couches, and whine about room waits, I have *zero* sympathy for them.
Mandy. Sessioned with her on Tuesday. Unfortunately, she was not in on Friday or Saturday, and her friend told me that Mandy comes in on Sunday-Wednesday.
Milana. I had sessioned with her on her very second day in her FKK career, almost exactly one year ago. And since then, our paths never crossed. So, I was happy to see her on Saturday. I had just come out of the room with her friend Lis, took a shower and came out and there she was, chatting with Lis. I went up to her, said Hi and reminded about being with her one year ago (she had only a vague memory) and told her to keep a slot open for me later. She was busy for a couple of hours, but I found her again around 5 PM and this time I took her to the room. She is a very intelligent woman, excellent English, and a strong personality. Lovely lady all around. Great body. Face may be 7 but body is 9. Great service. DFK is definitely on offer. Fantastic blow job and BLS. It felt like the most natural resting place for my dick was her mouth. Great deep throat technique. Great fuck, nice strong pussy muscles, made all the better with years of Kagels. I really wanted to do a repeat with her, and told her as much, but this is a very busy woman and she was not seen again. She is not as ferocious as Mandy, but really she is not in anyway inferior and she has improved tremendously from one year ago. If you want her, take her as soon as you see, for she is likely to be booked for hours and hours, not dissimilar to Mandy.
Nelli. To me, Model look Nelli is one of the 5 best lookers at Sharks at the moment, others being Tatiana, Janine, Megan, and Evita (OK, fire away your flaming arrows). I had sessioned with her once in September and I found her in the club on all 4 days of my visit. She is not all that busy either, despite her service being pretty decent, so obviously many people disagree with my assessment of her looks plus service. She is usually hanging out at the bar near the kitchen entrance. Fabulous body, pretty decent face. Pleasant and nice. Not a shark at all. I don't know if she DFKs, I am pretty happy with Light smooches on the lips. My guess is, for those so inclined, she is happy to DFK if it stretches beyond 30 min. [/QUOTE]First, thanks so much for this stand-out report. Don't we all wish every report was so well written and presented and full of essential details. Just a couple of points:
1) When I referred, in an earlier report last week or so, to the room wait line "oozing down the staircase," I am describing what I actually saw. More specifically, the throng of people waiting for rooms stretched from the top hallway of rooms (where 2 little couches are) down to nearly the VIP lounge level of the stairs. However, it's important to emphasise that this was not a permanent condition, just one of the many ebbs and flows of what looked like it might develop into a major traffic jam at various points throughout the latter stages of that (Weds) night.
2) You mentioned that you had planned to try Oase, but were stranded in Darmstadt (from reading your report it sounded like you were based in a Darmstadt hotel) without any transportation option to reach Oase. But it is well known that there are numerous connections between Darmstadt Hbf and FFM Hbf throughout the day / evening and once in FFM Hbf it is just another 30 mins S-bahn to Friedricksdorf. Similarly, there are trains from Darmstadt Nord and FFM Hbf every 2 hours (up to 22.13), so it is not that difficult to visit Oase from Darmstadt if you really are eager to do so. In fact, the Weds night at Sharks where it got so, so crowded, I bailed out of Sharks around 21.00, found myself on the 21.35 RB train from Darmstadt Hbf to FFM Hbf and then easily made the 21.54 S-bahn to Friedricksdorf and by 22.45 was sitting in the Oase Kino area adorned in Hessen dress. Not too bad a transfer.
3) I have to echo everything you wrote about Mandy, except she was into some conversation (some of it quite erotic) interspersed with various sexual activities. HB says she's over-rated / hyped, whatever; and that her service is just average. Maybe for him, but for me (and perhaps a few others) she gave me really above average performance on several levels during the two longish sessions I was lucky to enjoy with her, such that they stand out as two of the best sessions I've had in the clubs all year. We all know the ymmv-factor, and I got the strong impression with Mandy specifically that her performance is very linked to her chemistry and connection with the guy in the room with her. She's young (early 20's) and seemed to respond positively to the open honesty I was showing her, and it just got better and better. Mind you, I went for an hour with her right off the bat, and perhaps, like many girls these days, she doesn't present her "A-game" for an introductory 50-e session. Just a possibility.
A second point about Mandy, specific to Jnpr30's report: You say she was not there on Friday. Well, if you are referring to Friday Nov 18: she WAS definitely working that day, because I had a long and very happy session with her. She left just after we finished at about 19.00, so maybe you missed her. About her working on Sundays: When I was wrapping up our Fri session, I asked her if she would be working the very next day (Saturday), but she said "No, I never come in on Saturdays, but I will be here on Sunday until about 19.00. " I made some casual promise to come on Sunday and wait for her to be free. However, alas, she either did not show up on that Sunday (last Sunday, 20 Nov) or was there but so solidly booked I never saw her. This can happen all the time.
4) Nelli: I, like you, saw and appreciate this girls body look: wow what a hot ass and long, long legs. I went with her for an hour and was quite pleased with her performance and personality during the session. Does she DFK? Yes, we can!
5) About the red couches in front of the "VIP rooms": One night last week, when there were room waits, I was waiting in queue on one of the small couches by the hallway there. We were three or four couples altogether. I watch a couple approach us, climbing the stairs from the bar area below, and when they saw the line was three or four couples in front of them, the girl slyly steered her charge straight into the VIP area and hung out on the couches there. Then, when one of the VIP rooms became vacant a few minutes later, that couple went directly into the now free VIP room, effectively cutting the line. When the next couple in queue, who normally were entitled to take the next available room, saw a couple vacate the VIP lounge and head down the stairs, they went into the VIP area to claim their room, but came quickly back up the stairs to re-claim their place in the queue saying there was no available room in the VIP area. Of course not, because that couple, who should have been number 4 or 5 in the queue simply staked themselves out on the red couches and pounced on the open VIP room before the lead couple in queue could claim there legitimate room. Watch out for that!
Once again, thanks so much for your excellent report!
Hi Ortos,
Thanks for the very kind words, and thanks to Bitumen, Turgid, Badin and Pistons who said nice things. As for room waits, yes you are right, it probably depends on the day. I am not a regular like you guys so you are better placed to have the correct info, but my guess is that perhaps lines are longer on Wednesday due to a lot of men who come incented by the low fee? In general, I have never seen very long lines at Sharks. Perhaps I have been lucky. But my real point is to nudge people to use the red couches. More audience, more couch participation is always good for public sex aficionados like me.
You are right about my hotel situation which was in Darmstadt. Truth be told, I am not that devastated about missing a day in Oase. However, I knew Tatianna was not going to be in, and I had already seen many of the girls in Sharks on M / Tues, so I would have been happy to split my Fri / Sat between Sharks and Oase. But I was in Barcelona for business up to Friday afternoon, had a flight and was somewhat tired by the time I landed in FRA late in the evening. There was a problem / mix up about my rental reservation at the airport. W / o my own car, it would have been exhausting to go to Oase at that time, and stay till 2 AM as I was planning to, then trek back to my hotel in Darmstadt. It just seemed easier to simply go to my hotel, dump my bags and take a quick taxi to Sharks.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1966059]I am quite sure the girl you and I like is ex Sascha of Oase now called Maya. Yes, she could be telling her name is still Sascha because heck, what's in a name anyway. The other Sascha who has been at Sharks for a longer time is the One who sits on the Janine couches and mostly does duos with Sidonia. She is slightly shorter than Sascha / Maya.
I agree that the Sascha you and I like, is a girl with superb service, and pretty good body and face is quite nice and as well. If she told you she has a son, she is definitely the one. (I had two fantastic sessions with her at Oase, once publicly in the gardens at the far end while a bunch of guys and naked girls played volleyball 20 feet away. I thought I could never exceed that crowing moment of my life, LOL.).
I did not gush a whole lot in this trip report about her, because she was my very first session of the trip, and I climaxed in 20-25 min, and never got a chance to session with her again. But she is a total gem, on par with Milana and Lis in my view.[/QUOTE]What you say makes sense to me since I know the other Sascha at the Janine couch.
I also saw Alexa from Oase, if we refer to same girl, however she does not look Thai and any Thai blood is a bit unlikely. She once was heard to say 100% Zigeuner. Lets just put her in the doubtful box although she makes a good session if guys like her size. Phoebe I have not met as far as I know so can't comment.
Thanks for the detailed intel, although the bad girl really should be named. I used to detail my bad girls even though I never took one up to reception.
Seeing you are such a good guy, its hard to imagine what behavior (LOL) could have made you blood boil. I rarely get angry when I have to cancel sessions after just a few minutes, since I rarely meet really prickly personality girls.
I do meet girls whose mouth quickly kills my mood though. I wish all girls would learn to be nice or just shut up, if necessary.
As soon as the girl asks what I like to do in the room, I hear the warning bells already. I answer that I like to relax and have fun. No more detail than that. LOL If the girl cannot be fun then we can forget it straight off.
Fortunately we meet some kookie girls that can be incredible fun. I gather Mandy is like that. Moira was a crazy wild fun girl for me too.
One day we both might have been there but I did not meet you. Perhaps different days. I don't strive to know who other ISGers are unless for the purpose of keeping away from the real annoying ones where possible.
Its not good when other ISGers have to point you out to the girls. Hard to see their purpose.
Syzy,
Oops. I assumed the Alex of Oase, the Asian girl, was a Thai. My bad. Is she from some other Asian country? Lousy stereotyping on my part, I am afraid.
We had met before, once in Oase, if you remember. Been a couple of years now. I would have recognized you if I saw you again.
Since many people asked me, I will describe what the girl did w / o naming her. We knew each other and I had been with her 2 or 3 times before; so I liked her well enough to take repeat sessions. This was on Friday night, around 11 PM. I already had a couple of sessions by then. We took one of the glass cubicles converted from kino. From the get go, she was in more rush than normal to wrap up the session quickly, don't know why because at least once before I took an hour session with her. She refused to lie down next to me for my normal petting, cuddling etc. Right off the bat, she jumps into a quick BJ. But stops in less than two min and fastens a condom and begins humping me. Now, I can get hard but can't finish so many times, especially after having had 8 or so sessions in the previous few days. After 5 to 6 min, she gets off and wants me to do doggie. I told her I am a bit tired, not in a rush, just lie down and take a small break. She does not like it. Starts making more and more ugly faces at me, snapping at me with a snarly voice etc. My mood is kaput. We lie down silently for 5 to 7 min. I always have my watch on my wrist, so I know the exact times. Around 13th min, I say OK, please give me a blow job, I can't fuck anymore. At this point, she is getting crazy. Blames me for intentionally sabotaging the session. I said you mounted the condom before I was ready, it is not my fault. She wants to leave, claims time is up. I said we still have 15 min, here is my watch and this is when we came in. This really pushed her over the edge, and started yelling in a very loud voice, where others in the next cubicles could hear, "you made this shit, you made this shit". I said this is not acceptable, and I will go to front desk. I start putting my towel on, when she reaches up and hits me hard on my back.
This is when I was absolutely livid. I stormed out and rushed to the front desk and was shaking up with anger. I kept saying this girl hit me, she hit me. The receptionist called the theke who ask me to show her the girl. We go around hunting for her, the club was too crowded, but we find her after a couple of min. She was chatting with her friend. Mind you, I did not pay her yet after an aborted session. Theke asked her to follow. Called down the boss. He asks to tell our stories. I was so angry, I can't even talk straight, he asked me to calm down which I finally do. The girl was smirking and the boss told her to wipe the smirk off her face. After I tell my story, he asked her for her side, and she makes up some garbage about me wanting her to lie down on my dick w / o condom, implying I wanted unprotected sex. This last bit was just too much. For my first year in FKK, I took only covered BJ and for almost 2 years I used to take sex with 2 condoms because I was afraid one might break. So many girls know me as a two condom guy, some of them even now ask me if I am sure I want uncovered BJ, etc. I told the boss that the girl is lying through her teeth, if you don't believe me go ask a dozen girls about me and how paranoid I am about covered sex. He told the girl to stop the lies, offered a free pass as compensation. I said no thanks, already have a six entry ticket, this is not about money. Handed him the 50 I owed her, although he refused to take it at first. Thanked him and theke and left.
I think the boss and theke knew she was lying just looking at my face and how upset I was. Also, if she was right, she would not have casually left w / o wanting her money. As it is, until the theke and I hunted her down, she was not paid and was in a corner with a pal with a guilty look and not pursuing the money owed her.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1965920]Next may be Sylvana or World short Asian MILF.[/QUOTE]Never ever land.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1966127]As soon as the girl asks what I like to do in the room, I hear the warning bells already. I answer that I like to relax and have fun. No more detail than that. LOL If the girl cannot be fun then we can forget it straight off.
[/QUOTE]I have the best laughs with those FKK girls that give the lousiest service in the room and complain about every move I make. That really makes me laugh out loud before I terminate the session. With a good girl I am silent and just enjoy the ride.
If Alexa from Oase is asian, then I am a donkey with a wings and whale balls.
I think we are getting to the core of why Mandy is so great. It is her fun spirited way with tons of energy. There are lots of girls who are just as 'giving' during their sessions, and just as cuddly and sweet, but she comes of perhaps a bit more genuine than most. At least with me (also). But it is funny if she is like that with so many. Then again, it can be ymmv to some degree too. But surely it depends on what type of girl you like also... there are probably other girls that are different types who are just as great at sharks, but I wouldnt even consider checking out girls not my type anyway...
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1966156]Syzy,
Since many people asked me, I will describe what the girl did w / o naming her. We knew each other and I had been with her 2 or 3 times before; so I liked her well enough to take repeat sessions. This was on Friday night, around 11 PM. I already had a couple of sessions by then. We took one of the glass cubicles converted from kino. From the get go, she was in more rush than normal to wrap up the session quickly, don't know why because at least once before I took an hour session with her. She refused to lie down next to me for my normal petting, cuddling etc. Right off the bat, she jumps into a quick BJ. But stops in less than two min and fastens a condom and begins humping me. Now, I can get hard but can't finish so many times, especially after having had 8 or so sessions in the previous few days. After 5 to 6 min, she gets off and wants me to do doggie. I told her I am a bit tired, not in a rush, just lie down and take a small break. She does not like it. Starts making more and more ugly faces at me, snapping at me with a snarly voice etc. My mood is kaput. We lie down silently for 5 to 7 min. I always have my watch on my wrist, so I know the exact times. Around 13th min, I say OK, please give me a blow job, I can't fuck anymore. At this point, she is getting crazy. Blames me for intentionally sabotaging the session. I said you mounted the condom before I was ready, it is not my fault. She wants to leave, claims time is up. I said we still have 15 min, here is my watch and this is when we came in. This really pushed her over the edge, and started yelling in a very loud voice, where others in the next cubicles could hear, "you made this shit, you made this shit". I said this is not acceptable, and I will go to front desk. I start putting my towel on, when she reaches up and hits me hard on my back.
This is when I was absolutely livid. I stormed out and rushed to the front desk and was shaking up with anger. I kept saying this girl hit me, she hit me. The receptionist called the theke who ask me to show her the girl. We go around hunting for her, the club was too crowded, but we find her after a couple of min. She was chatting with her friend. Mind you, I did not pay her yet after an aborted session. Theke asked her to follow. Called down the boss. He asks to tell our stories. I was so angry, I can't even talk straight, he asked me to calm down which I finally do. The girl was smirking and the boss told her to wipe the smirk off her face. After I tell my story, he asked her for her side, and she makes up some garbage about me wanting her to lie down on my dick w / o condom, implying I wanted unprotected sex. This last bit was just too much. For my first year in FKK, I took only covered BJ and for almost 2 years I used to take sex with 2 condoms because I was afraid one might break. So many girls know me as a two condom guy, some of them even now ask me if I am sure I want uncovered BJ, etc. I told the boss that the girl is lying through her teeth, if you don't believe me go ask a dozen girls about me and how paranoid I am about covered sex. He told the girl to stop the lies, offered a free pass as compensation. I said no thanks, already have a six entry ticket, this is not about money. Handed him the 50 I owed her, although he refused to take it at first. Thanked him and theke and left.
I think the boss and theke knew she was lying just looking at my face and how upset I was. Also, if she was right, she would not have casually left w / o wanting her money. As it is, until the theke and I hunted her down, she was not paid and was in a corner with a pal with a guilty look and not pursuing the money owed her.[/QUOTE]I suspect she had a talking to after you left. There is no way a girl can justify hitting a guy. This job can be difficult with bad customers, but also some girls have unrealistic expectations. You cannot earn what you want. You have to be good enough. Girls do not realize the game. Smart girls know the goal is to get the good high paying customers. You only get that if your services and looks are well above the average. Good girls are always in demand, and they can choose who they go with. Thus, they avoid the bad customers. This is more rare today, but there are a few girls that are so sought after you have to beg to get on their dance cards.
JNPR,
Thanks for rhe story about the girl. I wonder if she was put off by being in the non private arena area. Some girls may need privacy to be comfortable. Not trying to excuse her at all. Like you, I run the session. I don't want girl deciding what will happen and when. Also cheating so much on the time is hard to take. She could have said she did not have time for a session. There must be reason why she was not like previously probably nothing to do with you.
You can talk about the Thekefrau but you should not use the term Theke which means a counter. This word is used commonly by non Germans. We should avoid copying them. Seems a convenient short word but unfortunately is wrong.
This problem probably arose because World staff used to wear T shirts with the word Theke on them.
Yes I recall meeting you in Oase years ago and had already guessed who you probably were based on girls you were chasing in Sharks compared to your reports. E. g. Roxana and Janine LOL. Looks like we have not coincided again for a while.
I have a couple of questions and need advise on the following.
1. what does one do in between sessions to kill time.
2. what does one do before and in between sessions to have a good time in the room. I mean is there a way one can last longer (more pumps) and climax late.
I remember once I went out with a real hot girl in the room and she made me cum within a few minutes and I was really embarrassed about it. Took her again after an hour break and she made me cum again very fast.
I have been with many girls and this just happened, I know its very rare but still. Is there a way to avoid such situations, I like to make the most in the room.
Any pointers will be highly appreciated.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;1966374]I have a couple of questions and need advise on the following.
1. what does one do in between sessions to kill time.
2. what does one do before and in between sessions to have a good time in the room. I mean is there a way one can last longer (more pumps) and climax late.
I remember once I went out with a real hot girl in the room and she made me cum within a few minutes and I was really embarrassed about it. Took her again after an hour break and she made me cum again very fast.
I have been with many girls and this just happened, I know its very rare but still. Is there a way to avoid such situations, I like to make the most in the room.
Any pointers will be highly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Play football outside to recover, or swim. To control, use belly muscles, not many girls will make me cum if I don't want to.
Sharks is not best for football. At Oase it can be fun because of the goal and the large lawn. At sharks I just use the jacuuzis, steamroom and sauna. Or eat, or just talk to some random person. Somehow it can be more interesting talking to guys sometimes instead of girls as the girls too often will just try to get you to the room after 5 minutes and feel you are wasting their precious time if you are not even ready for sex again. Too bad as it could strengthen their grip on getting those repeats more often. I guess now we know how the civillian girls feel when we meet them on town at some club. Rolereversal, lol
[QUOTE=Pistons;1966428]Sharks is not best for football. At Oase it can be fun because of the goal and the large lawn. At sharks I just use the jacuuzis, steamroom and sauna. Or eat, or just talk to some random person. Somehow it can be more interesting talking to guys sometimes instead of girls as the girls too often will just try to get you to the room after 5 minutes and feel you are wasting their precious time if you are not even ready for sex again. Too bad as it could strengthen their grip on getting those repeats more often. I guess now we know how the civillian girls feel when we meet them on town at some club. Rolereversal, lol[/QUOTE]I really enjoyed playing football at Sharks on this summer, much more interesting for me than speaking with liar claimed businessmen, not for you nor for Jo of course. I judge guys on their behavior and they can bullshit what they want, I don't need to find brothels friends, girls are more attractive when they are pretty.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1966156]Syzy,
Oops. I assumed the Alex of Oase, the Asian girl, was a Thai. My bad. Is she from some other Asian country? Lousy stereotyping on my part, I am afraid.
We had met before, once in Oase, if you remember. Been a couple of years now. I would have recognized you if I saw you again.
Since many people asked me, I will describe what the girl did w / o naming her. We knew each other and I had been with her 2 or 3 times before; so I liked her well enough to take repeat sessions. This was on Friday night, around 11 PM. I already had a couple of sessions by then. We took one of the glass cubicles converted from kino. From the get go, she was in more rush than normal to wrap up the session quickly, don't know why because at least once before I took an hour session with her. She refused to lie down next to me for my normal petting, cuddling etc. Right off the bat, she jumps into a quick BJ. But stops in less than two min and fastens a condom and begins humping me. Now, I can get hard but can't finish so many times, especially after having had 8 or so sessions in the previous few days..[/QUOTE]Haha crazy story of Oase girls. She is from Romania? I have to be careful at Oase then. Crazy story.
I had bad session at Oase last summer too. But not that bad as what you had to experienced.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;1966374]I have a couple of questions and need advise on the following.
1. what does one do in between sessions to kill time..[/QUOTE]This. I'm a tourist, I don't have a phone with an internet connection. The lack of WiFi kills me.
Also, Jesus Christ how come the past 20 pages or so that I've read contain no mention of Angelica and her derriere? It is a thing of splendor.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1966428]Sharks is not best for football. At Oase it can be fun because of the goal and the large lawn. At sharks I just use the jacuuzis, steamroom and sauna. Or eat, or just talk to some random person. Somehow it can be more interesting talking to guys sometimes instead of girls as the girls too often will just try to get you to the room after 5 minutes and feel you are wasting their precious time if you are not even ready for sex again. Too bad as it could strengthen their grip on getting those repeats more often. I guess now we know how the civillian girls feel when we meet them on town at some club. Rolereversal, lol[/QUOTE]Yes, football in Sharks is just on TV. This summer I saw a child playing alone with a ball against the wall near serving's exit. It is not only sad but also surreal.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;1645117]Here is a quote from a 1st November post by Pussyliccker.
"Simi is the girl I've been mispronouncing her name as Ceeya, seeyou, and etc. LOL. Very nice girl, speaks English very well to be a good conversationalist. She only 20, and her attractiveness is really enhanced once you experience her BJ. Very skillful I must say. Service is very good and find her attractive. She is petite for those that like the petite types. She came from Sharks. ".
Could she be the one? I had a session with her at Sharks on Friday, and she did say that business was bad for her at Oase, and that she was there on Wednesday. She wore a black garter belt.[/QUOTE]Simi was recently seen at GT Vien. Back then she looked young, on the petute side as she was only 20. She sure has change and quite a beauty now. Def a girl matured well from her youth in looks.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1966487]I really enjoyed playing football at Sharks on this summer.[/QUOTE]Where could you play soccer in Sharks?
[QUOTE=SuperLove;1966374]I have a couple of questions and need advise on the following.
1. what does one do in between sessions to kill time.
2. what does one do before and in between sessions to have a good time in the room. I mean is there a way one can last longer (more pumps) and climax late.
I remember once I went out with a real hot girl in the room and she made me cum within a few minutes and I was really embarrassed about it. Took her again after an hour break and she made me cum again very fast.
I have been with many girls and this just happened, I know its very rare but still. Is there a way to avoid such situations, I like to make the most in the room.
Any pointers will be highly appreciated.[/QUOTE]There are 3 hot tubs located on the second floor of Sharks. You can relax in one of those hot tubs at this time of the year.
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1966846]Where could you play soccer in Sharks?[/QUOTE]On the left when you go in the garden, kicking on the wall.
SuperLove. One thing some girls really appreciate is a customer who is interested in more than just using her as a fucking apparatus. Talking to the girl as an intelligent being can work wonders (with the right girl). This will usually lead to couch time, eating with the girl and so on, gratis. And if she really appreciates your interest in her as a person then the sex usually moves onto a whole new level.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;1645117]Here is a quote from a 1st November post by Pussyliccker.
"Simi is the girl I've been mispronouncing her name as Ceeya, seeyou, and etc. LOL. Very nice girl, speaks English very well to be a good conversationalist. She only 20, and her attractiveness is really enhanced once you experience her BJ. Very skillful I must say. Service is very good and find her attractive. She is petite for those that like the petite types. She came from Sharks. ".
Could she be the one? I had a session with her at Sharks on Friday, and she did say that business was bad for her at Oase, and that she was there on Wednesday. She wore a black garter belt.[/QUOTE]Now you "Simi", now you don't. Seems apt. Sorry for pathetic joke.
This supposedly was voted the top club, and I was led to believe Fridays were pretty good. I was somewhat bored.
There were a lot of girls. Rather too many newer girls. The problem is most new girls were not so special looking. Good figures but faces moderately average. Then the next problem is I have little clue who would give amazing service amongst the new girls. As for longer term girls, not so many very exiting girls for me, were in attendance.
I spent 3 hours from 7.15 PM wondering who to choose. Finally decided on Ruby who started latish. A little bit timid but it seems she can perform very well if she likes the customer. Good body of the very slim category, nice tits. Yes GFE.
Much later tried a newer girl with very good body, Jeanette. Great full tits, and nice ass. Body scores a 9, face scores a 7. Service was generally good but lacking full DFK. More like lip kissing. Seems to be the common problem to find full DFK girls amongst the new pretty ones.
Nastia was the standout stunning girl, but did not repeat her with known lack of kissing and DATY. Janine was other beauty present but very busily occupied, in fact Janine was the only girl I noticed to be very busy with a succession of customers. Even Megan was doing slow business, if any.
Girls like Moira, Evita, Diana, Ellis, Annabell, Senna, Mandy, etc. Were missing. Was very hard to find a desired target.
Due to lack of girls I am desperate to repeat, and over crowding at times, lack of much excitement vibe to the club, I feel I won't bother with Sharks for a while. Maybe a single super girl could change me around. I never met Mandy but don't know if she would have the look that I like.
It's quite hard to find the combination of super pretty looks going with fabulous service at Sharks, despite the large number of girls. I know others will disagree but I found the recent lineup at Oase to have more really pretty girls, many of them well known girls and some new girls.
So which current Sharks girls are really pretty and give super service, or did I name them already?
[QUOTE=LMatador;1966545] how come the past 20 pages or so that I've read contain no mention of Angelica and her derriere? It is a thing of splendor.[/QUOTE]As a suggestion, if you wrote a report on Angelica we would know who you are talking about and there would be the first report that mentions Angelica and her ass.
Arrived at noon. Lingerie day.
1) Vivian 1400-1500,100 E; 26 yo, long dark blonde, pretty, 173 cm, firm A-cup, fifth day at Sharks after long break for her study at university and care of her six-month daughter. In a room LFK, watery BBBJ, 69, five sets of quick missionary and quick DATY, 20 min DATY with her huge and long orgasm during which I was almost choked by her thighs, 2 min missionary, 2 min DATY, 5 min missionary leading her to the second O, ticklish DATY, Coca cola break, my massage on her for 15 min. Must repeat.
2) Bianca 1520-1610 (excluding 10 min shower), 100 E; long blonde, 174 cm, good-shaped be-cup, pretty, second time in the past six months. In a room 20 min DATY with my knees on the floor leading her to unclear but energetic O, my massage on her for 10 min, pleasing BBBJ, cow-girl, missionary with her another unclear O. Repeat, actually we made a promise to meet again at midnight to make me finish in her mouth.
3) Nastia 1703-1803,100 E; long brunette, 177 cm, fashion model, pretty, natural wide see-cup (but was wondering how she could have worked as fashion model with such a huge rack), 20 yo. In a room just lip-to-lip kiss only, caressing, 20 min DATY with her big O after five-time twitching on her stomach, missionary with her second O, another DATY which she was eventually unable to endure, followed by my massage on her for 20 min. I didn't confirm, but no BBBJ provided according to information in this thread. Must repeat.
4) Melody 1900-1923,50 E; short dirty blonde, ordinary saggy be-cup, ordinary figure, ordinary looks, first day at Sharks, which is why I took her to a room. In a room mediocre BBBJ, 69, cow-girl, doggie, missionary, DATY which was interrupted by ringtone of her smartphone. May not repeat.
5) Ester 1950-2020 50 E; she was so bored that I could not help giving her charity fuck after 15 min nap. In a room BBBJ, cow-girl, missionary, 20 min DATY with her O. She became sulky when she came to know that I took her friend twice today totaling two hours, but only 30 min with her. Repeat.
6) Bianca 2210-2300,100 E; we fulfilled our promise two hours earlier than planned. In a room she failed to make me cum in her mouth, so she ordered me to stay there for another 30 min to compensate. What we enjoyed was 30 min BBBJ and HJ, 10 min unsuccessful DATY and 10 min pillow talk. Repeat.
I saw Dina, Silvana, Evita, Patricia, Laura, Valentina, Sasha, Ivy, Daria. And didn't see Cosmina, Moira, Ina, Cindy, Paloma, Anya, Ruby, Stefie, Sandra, Tamaris, Luna, Janine, Megan, Mia, Sidonia.
Left at midnight.
Arrived at noon.
1) Sandra 1400-1500,100 E.
Was happy to see her free at the entrance of the restaurant. In a room we enjoyed passionate DFK, caressing, my first DATY with her first O, my second successive DATY with her second O, my third successive G-spot fingering DATY with her third O, our first missionary with her fingering leading to her fourth O, my fourth and fifth fingering DATY with her fifth and sixth O, our second missionary with her fingering leading to her seventh O and my final fingering DATY leading her to her final explosion, for which she needed rest for a while and as a cure my 20 min's massage on her. Must, must repeat.
2) Briana 1700-1715 50 E; 26 yo, 175 cm, long brunette, pretty, saggy A / be-cup. In a room, no kiss allowed, just BBBJ and cow-girl were on her menu. What she thinks girls at FKK have to do is to make a man just cum. Not repeat.
3) Ramona 1810-1833 50 E; 155 cm, long black hair, tanned, pretty with a too prominent nose, slim waist, A-cup. In the SM room on the first floor, we went wild with DFK, caressing, DATY with her O, sex (missionary, doggie and cow-girl) with her PSE. May repeat.
4) Sidonia 1900-2000 100 E; the first time in the past two years. In a room my 30 min DATY with my knees on the floor leading her to silent O, BBBJ, cow-girl, doggie and missionary (sex for 13 min) and my 15 min massage on her were what we enjoyed. Repeat.
5) Nelly 2050-2140 100 E; the first time in the past two years. In a room DFK, 15 min DATY with my knees on the floor leading her to O, BBBJ, cow-girl, doggie and missionary (sex for 10 min) and my 10 min second DATY with her second O, my 10 min massage on her were what we enjoyed. She constantly insisted my cum in her mouth, but I didn't accept it. Repeat.
Left at midnight because I was waiting for Evita to show up.
Arrived at noon. Am surprised and really impressed by Silvana's diligence, from 11 am to 5 am, from reception to sauna, to Jacuzzi through lounge, always hunting her game like a jaguar, and by Sandra booked whole day, first two-hour room, second one-hour room.
1) Diana 1430-1515 100 E; 21 yo, long blonde, pretty, model-type slim, A-cup, at Sharks for two years. I wondered why I hadn't had any chance to talk to her in the last two years. In a room we enjoyed lip-to-lip kiss, caressing, 20 min DATY with her quiet and calm O, BBBJ, cow-girl, missionary, LFK and my 30 min massage on her. She coughed all day long, needed rest, so I wish my massage makes her better. Must repeat.
2) Nastia 2100-2230 150 E; second session in this FKK tour.
Didn't know why, but she was available at such a busy hour. In a room many lip-to-lip kisses, 10 min caressing, 20 min DATY, which she stopped saying "too much" , 2 min BBBJ (just for me? 15 min intercourse (cow-girl and missionary), 10 min another DATY which she stopped again saying "too much", still no LFK and my 30 min massage on her. She promised me to give me CIM next time (just for me? Must must repeat.
3) Moira 0015-0115 100 E; the first time in the last 18 months. She changed so much I couldn't recognize her first, wearing glasses of a strict school teacher and change from scrawny to a little rounder in shape. In a room passionate DFKs, 10 min caressing, 15 min DATY during which she kept wriggling, 15 min missionary leading her to intense climax, my 20 min massage on her to get her back to a normal life. Must repeat, but it might to be hard to locate her at Sharks anymore because she works once a week.
99) Dina; We got a divorce! Dina told me we couldn't go to a room anymore because I lick and suck every pussy I take to a room with me. Yes, she once warned me, "Stop licking and sucking R***ian girls' pussies, otherwise you know what." Cannot repeat anymore against my will, sad.
Left at 2 am.
Arrived at 11:30.
1) Sara 1330-1430 100 E; long gorgeous platinum blonde, sexy features, 163 cm, be-cup (Si), Rom / Hun, the second day at Sharks, 2 years after Paradise in Saarbruecken. In a room LFK, caressing, 15 min DATY with her first big O, missionary, DATY with my covered fingering, bath room time, 15 min DATY with my covered fingering, her 10 min masturbation with my covered fingering leading her to the second big O. These two orgasms really made her day. Repeat.
2) Beatrice 1510-1545 50 E; long black hair gathered on her head, tanned, 173 cm, exotic features, see-cup (Si), Hun. In a room DFK, caressing, 15 min DATY and her 10 min masturbation with her big O. No BBBJ and no intercourse were requested. May not repeat.
3) Intermission between 16:00 and 21:00.
4) Patricia 2110-2130 50 E; the first time in the past two and a half years. In a room DFK, caressing, 5 min DATY with her intense O, 10 min missionary leading us nowhere. Reunion again.
4) Vivian 2200-2300 100 E; the second time in this FKK tour. In a room her 2 min massage on me, my 15 min massage on her, 20 min DATY with her four light climaxes and the biggest O, BBBJ followed by cow-girl, doggie, and missionary in vain. Repeat.
5) Janine 0000-0055 100 E+50 E (unsuccessful CIM); the first time in the last six months. In a room, no kiss, my normal massage on her back, my erotic massage on her front body, 30 sec DATY in which my tongue couldn't locate her clit, BBBJ, cow-girl, doggie, missionary, 15 min BBBJ without my CIM, but a small amount of preej was recognized as a part of CIM. Repeat.
6) Nastia 0200-0300 100 E+20 E (tip for her effort of CIM); the third time in this FKK tour. In a room for the first half my 10 min massage on her, my 10 min DATY which was ceased by her statement "too much", BBBJ, cow-girl and missionary. She confessed that she hadn't reached O at work, so my observation of her O's in the first session may be wrong. For the second half of our session she did her best to make me cum in her mouth, but couldn't. Must repeat.
Left at 3:30 am.
Arrived at noon on Sat. Nov. 26.
1) Elizabeth 1530-1730 200 E; 34 yo (looks younger), semi-long brunette, V-shape face, 163 cm, be-cup, a little small waist, the second day at Sharks. I first proclaimed one-hour session, in a room DFK and 15 min caressing, 25 min DATY with my knees on the floor leading her to orgasm, 30 min fingering DATY with falsely recognized O, 30 min fingering with falsely recognized O, 1:40 mark which I thought 50 min or so and during which she enjoyed an exciting rest, bath-room intermission, excellent and watery BBBJ, cow-girl, doggie, missionary with unrecognized O. Repeat.
2) Valentina 1800-1900 100 E; long black hair, black-framed glasses, pretty, 170 cm, firm body with so-so ratio waist, three weeks at Sharks after Artemis. In room LFK, caressing, DATY with her fiddling smartphone, cut DATY out, mediocre BBBJ, cow-girl, doggie and missionary (CAT = Coital Alignment Technique) which was followed by her surprise orgasm. Subsequent 20 min massage on her made her feel "no more sex, just give me a rest. " May repeat.
3) Diana 1940-2030 100 E; the second time in this FKK tour. In a room as before, kisses, caressing, DATY with her silent O, BBBJ, cow-girl, doggie, missionary, second BBBJ with unsuccessful CIM. Must repeat.
4) Stefie 2210-2305 100 E; the first time in the past six months. In a room no kiss allowed, caressing, 25 min DATY with guided index fingering of the last 5 min leading her to big O, BBBJ, cow-girl with my fast piston movement, missionary (CAT) making her tell first "cum in pussy", then "I'm coming. " She ignored my request "come together", then she cum by herself. My 20 min massage on her refreshed her for the rest of the day. Must repeat.
Left at midnight.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1966958]Arrived at noon.
1) Sandra 1400-1500,100 E.
Was happy to see her free at the entrance of the restaurant. In a room we enjoyed passionate DFK, caressing, my first DATY with her first O, my second successive DATY with her second O, my third successive G-spot fingering DATY with her third O, our first missionary with her fingering leading to her fourth O, my fourth and fifth fingering DATY with her fifth and sixth O, our second missionary with her fingering leading to her seventh O and my final fingering DATY leading her to her final explosion, for which she needed rest for a while and as a cure my 20 min's massage on her. Must, must repeat.
[/QUOTE]I guess she paid you the 100 for giving her seven "O's" in about one hour.
HB.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1966947]As a suggestion, if you wrote a report on Angelica we would know who you are talking about and there would be the first report that mentions Angelica and her ass.[/QUOTE]Anjelica is the woman from the Baltic states (Lithuania?) Mostly sitting on the front end of the bar, mid 30's and one of the biggest asses around. Friendly, heard her service is good.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1966979]I guess she paid you the 100 for giving her seven "O's" in about one hour.
HB.[/QUOTE]And by that you mean 8 in 40 minutes, as she needed to rest from all those O's.
After another set of multiple reports, I do wonder when we will get our first Sylvana report here...
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1967026]Anjelica is the woman from the Baltic states (Lithuania?) Mostly sitting on the front end of the bar, mid 30's and one of the biggest asses around. Friendly, heard her service is good.[/QUOTE]Ok, thank you Hessen Bub, Angelica does not appear to be one that I would prefer from a look viewpoint, hence, explaining why I did not know who she was. Good news for LMatador though as he really digs that look.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1965219]After a regular time off, after 1 month working for every girls, Aurelia keep on at Globe. Good for her.[/QUOTE]Yes, slim bolonde Aurelia ro ex Sharks has her pictures on the FKK Globe Zurich website. She looks good in just the red panties.
There is also an advert for a Silvester party at Globe for 31 December 2016 with a special 170 CHF entrance fee.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967041]Ok, thank you Hessen Bub, Angelica does not appear to be one that I would prefer from a look viewpoint, hence, explaining why I did not know who she was. Good news for LMatador though as he really digs that look.[/QUOTE]That's the one!
The best of news.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1966962]2) Valentina 1800-1900 100 E; long black hair, black-framed glasses, pretty, 170 cm, firm body with so-so ratio waist, three weeks at Sharks after Artemis. DATY with her fiddling smartphone, cut DATY out,
3) Diana 1940-2030 100 E; the second time in this FKK tour. In a room as before, kisses, caressing, DATY with her silent O, BBBJ, cow-girl, doggie, missionary, second BBBJ with unsuccessful CIM. Must repeat.[/QUOTE]Wow, so bad with Valentina being so disconnected during DATY that she is fiddling on her smartphone while you are licking away at her twat. That is a real turnoff. I am glad that you cut off the pussy licking to get onto other activities.
As for slim blonde Diana, she is a good looking girl. I hope the kisses the second time around was tongue kisses and not just closed lip to lip to kisses and she improved on that front. I am never sure she has an O during DATY with me but then I know you are the master. Diana's CIM technique for me is quite visual as it gets into her mouth then it dribbles out all over her chin and running down.
YY,
Can you mention which day the kookie Moira works please?
Thanks for the humerous report. Your divorce from Dina had me thinking. I only ever tried once and was allowed no more than 30 secs or so of DATY. Perhaps she was thinking about all those other pussies I was licking.
Another experience for me over 10 years ago with Alice (Dom) at Palace. First session with me she let herself go in the DATY completely. Subsequently she never allowed me to do DATY again. So she clearly did not want to lose control. Her overall service became bad too.
I am surprised you took Briana. She was fairly well known, at least at Oase to be poor in the room deapite a great body. Plenty of reports have been posted but perhaps you did not know was same girl.
Nastia is no repeat for me. Although the prettiest, just too aloof and controlled. Shows perhaps you can be wrong about O sometimes. Some girls are honest though when they say they never had O in the club. Others are honest to say they did on occasion but not that often. A few explosive ones don't need to say anything at all.
I will certainly reread any girls that could interest me.
Happy Pussy Licking. I never tried Janine so far but nice warning about hard to find it. Some girls can have an extreme tiny where is hard to stay on it.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1966959]
99) Dina; We got a divorce! Dina told me we couldn't go to a room anymore because I lick and suck every pussy I take to a room with me. Yes, she once warned me, "Stop licking and sucking R***ian girls' pussies, otherwise you know what." Cannot repeat anymore against my will, sad.
Left at 2 am.[/QUOTE]How much alimony you have to pay her? LOL.
BTW thanks for the detailed reports.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967049]Yes, slim bolonde Aurelia ro ex Sharks has her pictures on the FKK Globe Zurich website. She looks good in just the red panties.
There is also an advert for a Silvester party at Globe for 31 December 2016 with a special 170 CHF entrance fee.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1965219]After a regular time off, after 1 month working for every girls, Aurelia keep on at Globe. Good for her.[/QUOTE]I love Aurelia, but its too far too travel, unless I get work assignment there.
Aurelia is a big pessimist, but she can do well for a customer if she gets to really like the customer. I wonder if things are better for her these days.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1966960]1) Sara 1330-1430 100 E; long gorgeous platinum blonde, sexy features, 163 cm, be-cup (Si), Rom / Hun, the second day at Sharks, 2 years after Paradise in Saarbruecken.
5) Janine 0000-0055 100 E+50 E (unsuccessful CIM); the first time in the last six months. In a room, no kiss, my normal massage on her back, my erotic massage on her front body, 30 sec DATY in which my tongue couldn't locate her clit, BBBJ, cow-girl, doggie, missionary, 15 min BBBJ without my CIM, but a small amount of preej was recognized as a part of CIM. Repeat.
6) Nastia 0200-0300 100 E+20 E (tip for her effort of CIM); BBBJ, For the second half of our session she did her best to make me cum in her mouth, but couldn't. Must repeat.[/QUOTE]Cool. Sara sounds like one to look out for, Also she is a refugee from Paradise in Saarbruecken indicating more the movement of girls around the clubs as being a regular thing. For guys this keeps the interest up as there is turnover on something new to try.
On Friday, 25 November, the German boyfriend of Janine was not there in Sharks so that explains how Janine was available for you. Janine was apparently quite busy on Friday apart from say Cosmina with a long booking. So your good efforts contributed to Janine maybe being occupied with the pent up demand of customers who for some weeks have been denied access to Janine as she had been occupied by her German boyfriend. So you had some good timing there.
Your DATY experience echos mine with Janine in that she did not stand for DATY for very long and she did not seem to welcome it and spent time using paper towels to wiping way bodily fluids. Very good of you to give Janine the 50 euro for some presumed pre-ejaculate which could actually be something innocuous like Janine's own saliva.
Also good to know that over the past 2 weeks that Nastia has graduated from no kiss and covered blowjob to perform BBBJ and she would now allow the introduction of a male's sperm into her mouth from a CIM finish. It goes to show that peer pressure and the desire to make money can drive girls to improve their services. Indeed it can also be that the Romanian cartel also limits the services provided as well to only provide X or why in a 100 euro minimum session as well. It seems in most cases you are a 100 euro man anyway so no difference there.
Thank you for the photos.
If you find those of Anja who has returned to Globe, can you put them here?
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967049]Yes, slim bolonde Aurelia ro ex Sharks has her pictures on the FKK Globe Zurich website. She looks good in just the red panties.
There is also an advert for a Silvester party at Globe for 31 December 2016 with a special 170 CHF entrance fee.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1966958]Arrived at noon. 2) Briana 1700-1715 50 E; 26 yo, 175 cm, long brunette, pretty, saggy A / be-cup. In a room, no kiss allowed, just BBBJ and cow-girl were on her menu. What she thinks girls at FKK have to do is to make a man just cum. Not repeat.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1967065]YY, I am surprised you took Briana. She was fairly well known, at least at Oase to be poor in the room deapite a great body. Plenty of reports have been posted but perhaps you did not know was same girl.[/QUOTE]Probably not the same girl. The Oase Briana is nowhere near 175 cm.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1966959] Sandra booked whole day, first two-hour room, second one-hour room.
1) Diana 1430-1515 100 E; 21 yo, long blonde, pretty, model-type slim, A-cup, at Sharks for two years. I wondered why I hadn't had any chance to talk to her in the last two years. In a room we enjoyed lip-to-lip kiss, caressing, 20 min DATY with her quiet and calm O, BBBJ, cow-girl, missionary, LFK and my 30 min massage on her. She coughed all day long, needed rest, so I wish my massage makes her better. Must repeat.
2) Nastia 2100-2230 150 E; second session in this FKK tour. In a room many lip-to-lip kisses, 10 min caressing, 20 min DATY, which she stopped saying "too much" , 2 min BBBJ (just for me? 15 min intercourse (cow-girl and missionary), 10 min another DATY which she stopped again saying "too much", still no LFK and my 30 min massage on her. She promised me to give me CIM next time (just for me? Must must repeat.
99) Dina; We got a divorce! Dina told me we couldn't go to a room anymore because I lick and suck every pussy I take to a room with me. Yes, she once warned me, "Stop licking and sucking R***ian girls' pussies, otherwise you know what." Cannot repeat anymore against my will, sad.[/QUOTE]Indeed blonde German Sandra is always busy when I have observed her movements around the club. A constant line of German guys are after her services. In a similar pattern as the demand that Mandi / Mandy generates when she is in the club.
Diana does herself a disservice by being stand offish when she moves around the club screaming "Do not touch me" when men approach her. Diana also hangs out at the couches at the way to the sauna towards the back of the club where she luxuriates with indolence sitting on the arm chair with her friends talking rubbish with each other. Kaira the blonde silicone breasted Serbian sometimes comes over to hang out with this group. Indeed, Diana is model style slim in her look with a be cup, whereas I believe you say A cup. Her breasts are wonderful to play with. So bad with the lip to lip kissing but she does indeed kiss as you have found out. Diana could be a top Sharks girl but she does not take advantage of her great looks and does not improve her girl friend like persona for customers to continue to come back to her.
As for Nastia, so good you confirm again that she does BBBJ now, whereas before she did not suck cock unless it was encased in a plastic sheaf.
Dina is so bad for divorcing you on the grounds of all your pussy licking. How did she know that you lick pussy with all your girls?
I mean Dina must have something against Romanian pussies as being lower grade to specifically identify to you that Romanian pussies are banned from licking but maybe not Hungarian or German pussies for example.
So good for you to accept the divorce from Dina and move on. Be strong and you were strong and remain an example to us all in what you do.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1967065]...Can you mention which day the kookie Moira works please?...[/QUOTE]She does office work at a catering company and goes to language school to be transfered to univesity in Germany, so her attendance at Sharks is unclear, but once a week, said she definitely.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1966958]4) Sidonia 1900-2000 100 E; the first time in the past two years. In a room my 30 min DATY with my knees on the floor leading her to silent O, BBBJ, cow-girl, doggie and missionary (sex for 13 min) and my 15 min massage on her were what we enjoyed. Repeat.
Left at midnight because I was waiting for Evita to show up.[/QUOTE]I have always admired small blonde Sidonia ro with the tattoo writing down the spine of her backside. If I ever went with her I would have to prise Sidonia away from Sascha ro her taller, no tits friend. Sidonia looks like she has big tits since she is so petite. Your report on Sidonia may reinforce me eventually booking Sidonia finally. It is good to know it is easy to find Sidonia as she is found on the same set of couches as where Janine de reigns on her couch surrounded by a coterie of German customers. I do see Sidonia go with primarily German customers though.
Please Yama Yama, could you explain what you mean when you say you left at midnight because you were waiting for Evita to show up? Is it meaning you gave up waiting for Evita to show up or you had an appointment with Evita and went to go meet her (hence she was showing up) and you did not to be late.
Yama Yama, I think you may be missing your Sharks day 2 report from the ones you posted. I may be wrong.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1967069]I love Aurelia, but its too far too travel...[/QUOTE]Me too, so my next tour should include Zurich (Aurelia) and Berlin (Yra), LOL.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967088]Yama Yama, I think you may be missing your Sharks day 2 report from the ones you posted. I may be wrong.[/QUOTE]Day 2 of my FKK tour is at Oase.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967088]Yama Yama, I think you may be missing your Sharks day 2 report from the ones you posted. I may be wrong.[/QUOTE]Yes, you are right. Sharks 3 should be sharks 2, and 4 should be 3, 5 be 4, 6 be 5. Sorry for confusion.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1966957]1) Vivian 1400-1500,100 E; 26 yo, long dark blonde, pretty, 173 cm, firm A-cup, fifth day at Sharks after long break for her study at university and care of her six-month daughter.
3) Nastia 1703-1803,100 E; long brunette, 177 cm, fashion model, pretty, natural wide see-cup (but was wondering how she could have worked as fashion model with such a huge rack), 20 yo. In a room just lip-to-lip kiss only, caressing, 20 min DATY with her big O after five-time twitching on her stomach, missionary with her second O, another DATY which she was eventually unable to endure, followed by my massage on her for 20 min. I didn't confirm, but no BBBJ provided according to information in this thread. Must repeat.
4) Melody 1900-1923,50 E; short dirty blonde, ordinary saggy be-cup, ordinary figure, ordinary looks, first day at Sharks, which is why I took her to a room.
5) Ester 1950-2020 50 E; she was so bored that I could not help giving her charity fuck after 15 min nap. In a room BBBJ, cow-girl, missionary, 20 min DATY with her O. She became sulky when she came to know that I took her friend twice today totaling two hours, but only 30 min with her.[/QUOTE]As you reports highlight there is still an influx of new girls coming to Sharks such as Vivian and Melody you mention as is Nastai who is now there around a month or so at Sharks.
I know you found out eventually that Nastia performs BBBJ which from a good looking girl like her with swaying well shaped tits as hers would be a divine visual to behold.
Your experience with Ester is similar to mine, demonstrating that girls do observe the activities of their fellows in how many rooms and how long those rooms are with their companions as against themselves. For Ester to accuse you of taking her friend Bianca for 2 hours and her for just half a hour shows she is tallying the money she could have got herself if you spread yourself around with her too. I have had the same claims made against me too by girls. I do feel bad but in the end this is not a democracy. These girls are not fucking us for free and we choose where we spend our money. These girls can make their statements of claim for equivalency in the room and in pay but in the end it is our choice.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1967026]Anjelica is the woman from the Baltic states (Lithuania?) Mostly sitting on the front end of the bar, mid 30's and one of the biggest asses around. Friendly, heard her service is good.
HB.[/QUOTE]I remember when I visited Sharks there was a Baltics blonde with a pretty face and a big, round bubble butt who was giving me the eye. We eventually spoke, but no deal was "consummated" as she did not do anal, and I was in the mood for some anus. I wonder if this "Anjelica" is the same one? I ended up sessioning with a Romanians spinner who took it in her arsehole.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967086]Please Yama Yama, could you explain what you mean when you say you left at midnight because you were waiting for Evita to show up? Is it meaning you gave up waiting for Evita to show up or you had an appointment with Evita and went to go meet her (hence she was showing up) and you did not to be late.[/QUOTE]She was too busy to show up when we were supposed to meet.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1967094]She was too busy to show up when we were supposed to meet.[/QUOTE]Oh got it now. When I read your prose and then re-read it again several times I came up with different combinations of what it meant including she did not even work that day and you were waiting around for her to show up.
But the story was she was in the club and she never kept your appointment with you meaning you were waiting for her to show and still left the club. So bad of her.
Is Albanian Anja around at the moment?
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1966962]1) Elizabeth 1530-1730 200 E; 34 yo (looks younger), semi-long brunette, V-shape face, 163 cm, be-cup, a little small waist, the second day at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Elizabeth is at least working since two weeks at Sharks. I first met her on Sunday, Nov. 13th and had a great time with her in the room. Then she had curly hair, now she looks quite different with straight hair.
Maybe girls know (by intuition) that you like that fairytale of "first or second day at work".
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1966947]As a suggestion, if you wrote a report on Angelica we would know who you are talking about and there would be the first report that mentions Angelica and her ass.[/QUOTE]MILF from Latvia (I always mess up between Latvia and Lithuania). She's in her 40's I would say.
Usually sitting at the bar on the left hand side as you come in (bistro side), at one of the seats closest to bistro entrance.
Usually wears black stockings.
Spectacular butt (especially when she walks), nice soft natural big boobs.
Took her 2 times and got excellent service both times.
There is a rumor she turns down some customers.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967081]
I mean Dina must have something against Romanian pussies as being lower grade to specifically identify to you that Romanian pussies are banned from licking but maybe not Hungarian or German pussies for example.[/QUOTE]Sounds just like drama, and not racist as you put it.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1967065]
Can you mention which day the kookie Moira works please?
[/QUOTE]Just as YY says, Moira recently explained that she has now down-graded her once daily club attendance to one time per week. A couple of weeks ago, I saw her (and sessioned with her) on a Weds. When we were walking down the stairs post-session, I casually asked her if she knew which day of the week she would next attend the club, but she explained she did not know and was a more or less spontaneous decision as to which day she comes to Sharks. True to form, after that Weds, I did NOT see her working at Sharks during my subsequent visits there, which included Tues, another Weds, Fri and Sunday. Reading back from YY's reports, it seems (although not clear) that the day he saw Moira in his report was a Thurs. So probably no standard day, as she explained to me.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1967065]Can you mention which day the kookie Moira works please?[/QUOTE]YamaYama saw Moira on a Thursday but her days are random according to her own program which works out as one day a week in the club. You will just have to take pot luck or get her phone number, her Facebook or Telegram or Linkedin contact details.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1967072]Thank you for the photos. If you find those of Anja who has returned to Globe, can you put them here?[/QUOTE]I will see what I can do.
Something must be said for the girl that takes your come in her mouth and comments on the flavor saying that your diet is healthy and is free of additive chemicals (e. G. Smoke, alcohol) in your sperm shot.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1967089]Me too, so my next tour should include Zurich (Aurelia) and Berlin (Yra), LOL.[/QUOTE]Aurelia is at Globe and seems happy. Very different from her 9 months start in the business, at Magnum with animals. She is also Aurelia at Sharks. 140 CHF /30 mn, same in USD.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967237]I will see what I can do.
Something must be said for the girl that takes your come in her mouth and comments on the flavor saying that your diet is healthy and is free of additive chemicals (e. G. Smoke, alcohol) in your sperm shot.[/QUOTE]No Anja seen at Globe.
Great welcome from Kate as always since 18 April, asking me about my health as soon she saw me, I couldn't answer I was in FKK 2 days after. How a busy top class superstar since 2011 , can appreciate so much the worst guy in FKK. Very busy, but waiting for about 45 mn, I finished to watch Formula 1.
If I lived in Zurich, really no reason to spend time and money to go to Sharks. Excellence versus becoming GND fuck factory.
[QUOTE=ReefLostCause;1967173]She's in her 40's I would say.
Spectacular butt (especially when she walks), nice soft natural big boobs..[/QUOTE]Sweat MILF with a killer butt, totally agree.
I love the horny and very sexy look in her eyes when doing her in missionary. Highly recommend if you looking for GFE.
[QUOTE=NickTheG;1967149]Elizabeth is at least working since two weeks at Sharks. I first met her on Sunday, Nov. 13th and had a great time with her in the room. Then she had curly hair, now she looks quite different with straight hair.
Maybe girls know (by intuition) that you like that fairytale of "first or second day at work".[/QUOTE]Elisabeth with reddish curly hair, sitting at the bar close to restaurant, was at Sharks on Monday 31 October. I didn't feel same attraction on Saturday 5 November, after Megan. Couldn't find a second attractive girl on that so boring Saturday, except playing football outside.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967228]YamaYama saw Moira on a Thursday but her days are random according to her own program which works out as one day a week in the club. You will just have to take pot luck or get her phone number, her Facebook or Telegram or Linkedin contact details.[/QUOTE]Moira was in the club on Friday in the prior week when I attended. So, it is true indeed that her attendance is probably a random event as far as the day of the week goes.
And thanks to YY for a series of great posts again. I am still in awe of how he manages to perform with so many girls on so many consecutive days. I managed 14 sessions and 8 finishes in my trip, and that is with a two day break interspersed in a four day FKK tour. How I wish I discovered these clubs when I still had the libido of a young man?
Finally, thanks to Bitumen for your kindness in linking my report to ROD.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1966960]Arrived at 11:30.
1) Sara 1330-1430 100 E;
2) Beatrice 1510-1545 50 E;
4) Patricia 2110-2130 50 E;
4) Vivian 2200-2300 100 E;
5) Janine 0000-0055 100 E+50 E (unsuccessful CIM);
6) Nastia 0200-0300 100 E+20 E (tip for her effort of CIM); .[/QUOTE][QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1966959]1) Diana 1430-1515 100 E;
2) Nastia 2100-2230 150 E;
3) Moira 0015-0115 100 E;
99) Dina; We got a divorce!
Left at 2 am.[/QUOTE]YamaYama,
Very good and detailed reports. I enjoyed reading them. It is very informative.
It is a very humorous writing about Dina. I am not surprised the breakup. Contrary to most WGs, Dina seems not to treat her regulars fairly. Several guys shared same feeling as me. The more sessions you engaged with her, the worse services you would receive from her.
YamaYama, move on, you can engage a new stunner, such as Vivian, Mandy or Lena. They all are, if no better, at least as good as Dina.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967237]I will see what I can do.
Something must be said for the girl that takes your come in her mouth and comments on the flavor saying that your diet is healthy and is free of additive chemicals (e. G. Smoke, alcohol) in your sperm shot.[/QUOTE]Albanian Anja with tattoo is now at Globe?
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1967069]I love Aurelia, but its too far too travel, unless I get work assignment there.
Aurelia is a big pessimist, but she can do well for a customer if she gets to really like the customer. I wonder if things are better for her these days.[/QUOTE]She was smiling and even seemed quite busy on this quiet Sunday at Globe. When not too heavy make up like her last times at Sharks and good hair care, she can be really pretty. No Jessika silicon seen on this Sunday. Only Kate for me, like at World before, girls and I regret for friendly dancer Stefi, know now.
[QUOTE=Checkers1;1967443]Albanian Anja with tattoo is now at Globe?[/QUOTE]Never heard Anja saying she worked at Globe before, girls can have much better business there, with 140 CHF per 30 mn, than her not so busy business at Sharks, when she went for a while to Worms on Summer. She would also have to change her behavior to stay to work, even she is friendly.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1967344]YamaYama,
Very good and detailed reports. I enjoyed reading them. It is very informative.
It is a very humorous writing about Dina. I am not surprised the breakup. Contrary to most WGs, Dina seems not to treat her regulars fairly. Several guys shared same feeling as me. The more sessions you engaged with her, the worse services you would receive from her.
YamaYama, move on, you can engage a new stunner, such as Vivian, Mandy or Lena. They all are, if no better, at least as good as Dina.[/QUOTE]So you believe that girls are like machines and they will provide the same level of service to all their customers, chemistry between people doesn't exit, everything is mechanical sorry but I will not agree with you, I have great experiences with girls that many of you consider as poor performer let's go on like this so those girls are available for me. Just may be one day bring with you a nice bottle of French perfume and offer it to the girl, I am convinced that it will not be the same session.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1967315]
And thanks to YY for a series of great posts again. I am still in awe of how he manages to perform with so many girls on so many consecutive days. I managed 14 sessions and 8 finishes in my trip, and that is with a two day break interspersed in a four day FKK tour. How I wish I discovered these clubs when I still had the libido of a young man?
[/QUOTE]For those where cumming is difficult (includes me), I have advice that I feel worked. Losing weight helps but is the most difficult. The easier thing that helps is to give up watching porn as far as possible especially the extreme stuff, and give up wanking and all hand jobs as far as possible. Gives the dick a chance to return to being more sensitive.
The last measure, is probably unique to me, so I won't publish it.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1967480]Never heard Anja saying she worked at Globe before, [/QUOTE]She told me. When she was new at Sharks she told me sh was workin at Globe before. Who cares.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1967635]She told me. When she was new at Sharks she told me sh was workin at Globe before. Who cares.
HB.[/QUOTE]We do not receive the same favor from girls, such as their history. Who cares as you said.
She takes her job in Globe this week.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1967566]So you believe that girls are like machines and they will provide the same level of service to all their customers, chemistry between people doesn't exit, everything is mechanical sorry but I will not agree with you, I have great experiences with girls that many of you consider as poor performer let's go on like this so those girls are available for me. Just may be one day bring with you a nice bottle of French perfume and offer it to the girl, I am convinced that it will not be the same session.[/QUOTE]I agree with the Expat Lover.
Anja the Romanian / Albanian is a case in point. She makes it clear that she gives a different service to those she feels something connected and a lesser service for those she is indifferent to. Then Anja says there are the customers that she does not go with as she would be put off by them. So I guess what she is saying that you are privileged if she agrees to go with you to the room. It is not a mechanical act for her and she needs to feel something for the man she is going to suck his cock and lick his balls or stick her finger in his ass.
To garner favor, bringing French perfume is one way or maybe a chocolate bar like the Aldi men do to give as a tip to the girls.
Further example, I have seen as blonde and beautiful Roxanna walk around the club with long dark haired Jessica in tow, they together encounter middle aged Turkish men. I have seen Roxanna physically look revolted and skip out of the path of Turkish men as the Turkish man walks close by her. I then see the Turkish men look bewildered at Roxanna's reaction to their advance and then look back at the rest of his posse who have witnessed the close encounter. I guess what this means that the Turkish has saved some money from a really bad session with Roxanna since it was known from the Roxanna's body language that she was adverse to going to the room with such men. Just an observation.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1967480]Never heard Anja saying she worked at Globe before, girls can have much better business there, with 140 CHF per 30 mn, than her not so busy business at Sharks.[/QUOTE]When you work in Switzerland, inevitably the girls have to pay Swiss taxes. As we know a part of the 140 CHF fee for half hour also includes a service tax element. The girls would lose this service tax element as well as pay income taxes on their self employment business profits. Also living in Switzerland is dead expensive. Cherries at the local market at 65 CHF for a kilogram, chocolate at easily over 100 CHF a kilogram, steak at over 100 CHF a kilogram.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1966156]I was so angry, I can't even talk straight, he asked me to calm down which I finally do. The girl was smirking and the boss told her to wipe the smirk off her face. After I tell my story, he asked her for her side, and she makes up some garbage about me wanting her to lie down on my dick w / o condom, implying I wanted unprotected sex. This last bit was just too much..[/QUOTE]Did this WG ever show any remorse? I doubt it was her first offense. Do you know if Sharks management sent the WG home for the day?
So this WG just assumed you wanted a 50 EUR session, and decided to fast forward through it without asking if you wanted a longer session? My experience is they only attempt to transition into the 50 EUR /15 minute option after they've come to the realization that all they are getting is a 50 EUR.
50 EUR /15 minute option works for most WGs. If she is successful in making the customer cum inside of 15 minutes, he is not likely to complain. These types of customers are usually younger, inexperienced punters, or customers of Mondial or Acapulco, which is generally not the audience for ISG. If the customer loses his erection before cumming, and she rushes him out of the room, she can likely assess the probability that he would get upset and escalate to management. Does the customer look and act like a "gentleman"? Does the customer look timid, shy, or not have the language proficiency to complain?
Even if you are not as regular as other posters, I am sure the WGs recognize you. You had a history with this girl who tried to scam you. Also since the WGs compare notes with each other, this WG may have known that you gave gifts to Roxana in the past. So based on her intel and previous interactions she has had with you, she may have classified you as a "nice guy" or "pushover", and thus someone that could be taken advantage of.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1967720]We do not receive the same favor from girls, such as their history. Who cares as you said.
She takes her job in Globe this week.[/QUOTE]So Anja is not at Sharks anymore?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1967472]Only Kate for me, like at World before[/QUOTE]Sirioja's Kate at Globe in Zurich. Kate used to work at Sharks and before that at World.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967756]Sirioja's Kate at Globe in Zurich. Kate used to work at Sharks and before that at World.[/QUOTE]And before at Frankfurt RLD in BHV if I remember right T26.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1967759]And before at Frankfurt RLD in BHV if I remember right T26.[/QUOTE]Kate sure gets moved around a lot.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1967546]Blond Nea who worked for many years at World and made a second try at Sharks where she was on Saturday 5 November? She came to me smiling, beautiful smile and very good breathe, not smoking girl.[/QUOTE]Blonde Neya ro, ex World has now moved from Sharks to work in Living Room in NRW area. Similar to Kate, she gets moved around a lot.
I also saw Neya 16 days ago but did not see Neya since 8 days ago at Sharks.
These girls are like players in football, hunting for money and we are hunting for pussy.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967756]Sirioja's Kate at Globe in Zurich. Kate used to work at Sharks and before that at World.[/QUOTE]Fortunately for her, impossible to recognize her on these photos, because different now, also difficult to recognize from old FKK photos, for those who really know her. High level GFE.
If Anja really goes to Globe, if she succeeds for control, but she could have gone on Summer to make business rather than lost Worms, I will be happy to chat with her about her sexual public performances on couch at Sharks, as it was written about her, at Globe she would get business from public sex if she really provides. Unfortunately, I won't be able to go to chat with Raοssa World, ski is more important to prepare at the moment and Switzerland is closer to mountains.
Aurelia understood she has to change her behavior at Globe, smiling, no more turning around, friendly on this Sunday even girls know, dancing a bit at the pole. Girls have to dance a bit. Stefi is top dancer.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967767]Kate sure gets moved around a lot.[/QUOTE]After a short tour at Sharks on April, even I really wish her to retire soon, even she said: You really wish? But I don't think she will return to Sharks where she worked on 2013 . A top GF, if she really worked in RLD? 140 CHF minimum now.
Ask also to Aurelia, Isabella, who worked in Hessen, they know how they are lucky to work at Globe, even management control more girls than at Sharks, but girls are happy about business they get. Girls pay for the room, after each room, but all girls I know seem happy about money they make, compare to Sharks.
Just arrived back from Sharks and yeah there were many girls that I haven't seen before but can't say I'm impressed with the LU (yeah I know its Monday). There was a girl that I thought was Megan when she approached me but its another girl Teresa I think. Saw this Mandy girl kinda busy early on and was later available small petite think I'm going to try her next time.
There was 2-3 girls that I fancied early on a black hair but a very pretty face, a girl with shaved head on the side. Did get approached by the girls that haven't seen or rmb me from before. Most left me alone when they knew it wasnt my 1st time bc they see me talk to some of the girls from my earlier visit.
Most behaved pretty nice but 1 girl was so fuking annoying I was sitting at the oval sofa close to the toilet and she ask me if I blablabla why you don't go to the room. I said I was relaxing checking out the girls etc. Later in less than 10 min she actually ask again and again calling names even she doesn't know my name. Damn so fuking rude so I just told her to fuking leave me alone I can do what the fuk I want since I already paid entry and said do you want me to me a complaint to the reception. So she finally left me alone. Another girl just made the you and me sign I said no and after a moment she came over and I told her I was relaxing. Damn girls should get a hint when I'm saying stuff like that or later, LOL. She left saying profanities in romanian yeah not very nice.
The girls prolly have to spend time talking to the locals before going to the room but if they know you are a tourists even returning ones they will just ask you for room less than 1 min. I was joking with some of the girls I know that this isn't going to work at least for me bc if they want my business they have to at least me some effort.
The food was pretty good and there was a new barmaid there that's rly cute asking me if I wanted more drinks etc. Damn I always find the barmaids so attractive, LOL.
Went to the room with Dora and Patrize. I rly like Patrize face prolly one of the most attractive one for me at Sharks today. There was another tall slender girl that I haven't seen before and a few that I couldve done. Both were pretty decent I esp enjoyed Patrize face when giving me BBBJ, LOL.
Evita and Cosmina with an asian for most of the time, LOL. Idk why so many asians like them so much sure they are good looking but rly spend several hrs in the room with them is a waste of money, LOL.
Girls seen:
Cosmina & Evita.
Dora.
Patrize.
Patrica (blond and brunette).
Agnes.
Lara.
Madalina.
Paloma.
Sylvana (always there).
Andra (annoying girl on my 1st visit now she leaves me alone).
Jessica & blonde girls forgot her name.
Bianca.
Ester.
Diana w her italian guy.
Many others that I didn't bother asking for names or forgot when they approached bc not rly interested.
Hopefully some of my favs will show up on next time.
[QUOTE=Checkers1;1967746]So Anja is not at Sharks anymore?[/QUOTE]She has not been there from 10 days ago. If she comes back to Sharks? It depends on what happens at Globe.
She is one of the victims of the massive arrival of girls in the club. She knows she can earn more by changing the condition in which she works.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1967840]Evita and Cosmina with an asian for most of the time, LOL. Idk why so many asians like them so much sure they are good looking but rly spend several hrs in the room with them is a waste of money, LOL.
[/QUOTE]It's up to each customer to waste his money as he sees fit, and girls won't complain about nice long bookings. The customer may well think it is worth it as he is in seventh heaven, and the exact amount of money spent may matter very little. Sometimes a customer is enjoying sufficiently, he just does not want to release it and return to boredom in the lounge.
For Asians and others, there can be a status thing as well, about having one or two of the prettiest girls all to himself. We also have a customer booking Janine for hours to drink on a couch. This upsets some customers. We should have better things to worry about. Girls will choose the best money option.
You are allowed to write "fuck" you know. That is not a problem on a sex forum. The moderators do not encourage chat room style.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1967840]but rly spend several hrs in the room with them is a waste of money, LOL...
[/QUOTE]Your Patrizie envy that as many girls of Sharks LOL.
They are true YMMV girl. They give much more if they like you and you do not limit a 30 minute session. When Evita leaves the club accompanied this Asian after the end of the work, we understand that the service after sale is also impeccable with her LOL.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967756]Sirioja's Kate at Globe in Zurich. Kate used to work at Sharks and before that at World.[/QUOTE]The photos show her tits well, but do not quite do full justice to her fabulous ass, due to legs wide apart stance.
Exodus,
Thanks for the report. I thought Teresa was a cute girl. A bit too tall and big for my spec but very pleasant and smiling face, quite babyish. Megan is more slender and has a prettier face (to me).
I am not surprised Asian customers spend so much money but I also can't figure out why they seem to fancy Cosmina plus Evita so much. You got to figure that someone who flies in half way across the globe has a lot of fixed expense such as airfare, hotels, car rentals, club entry fee etc. This is all an upfront expense just so he can fuck the girl. I would want to maximize my actual sex time compared to my fixed expenses, and they probably do also. So, spending multiple hours with many girls or even a single fav is somewhat expected. I just don't know why they seem so smitten with those two specific girls of all the hundred plus in the club.
McA: She is a scammer no doubt, but Her cheating and scamming didn't bother me as much as her utterly thuggish and disgusting act in hitting a customer. It would be so easy for me to retaliate as well, but we can't stoop to that level. To my disappointment, they didn't banish her as I saw her back in the club on Saturday night, but they probably kicked her out on Friday night as I didn't see her anymore that night after I complained. Anyway, it's bygones be bygones.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1967840]Evita and Cosmina with an asian for most of the time, LOL. Idk why so many asians like them so much sure they are good looking but rly spend several hrs in the room with them is a waste of money, LOL.
Dora
Jessica & blonde girls forgot her name.
Diana w her italian guy.[/QUOTE]It is interesting with Evita and Cosmina being Asian killers and how they decided to focus on this market OR wss it the Asians see in Evita and Cosmina a look that they like and go after Cosmina and Evita? Maybe a combination of both.
These 2 girls will do what they can to attract the attention of Asian guys (as well as white guys too I can see), buy you do see Evita and Cosmina noticing the Asian guys when they come into the club and then immediately making their way to these Asian guys before anyone else gets to them. As these two girls have good looks it is probably difficult to turn them down especially when these girls give their best attention to the guys.
The friend of black haired Jessica is known as Roxanna if rhwy go around the club together as a duo.
Dora is a sweetie but her saggy tits do not endear me.
Dora's friend Diana though is model like hot looking. Diana actually gives a really good service. It has been said before that Diana can be a Sharks top girl if she was not so restrictive to the 50 euro guys. But then she has made a conscious decision to cut out the low rent guys looking for the guys willing to pay 100 or more, but then she brings her A game and it is really quite good.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1967864] Sometimes a customer is enjoying sufficiently, he just does not want to release it and return to boredom in the lounge...[/QUOTE]Yes I am guilty of this, but I think I do this more at Sharks than some other clubs I frequent. Especially during the winter, there isn't really a good place to relax and nap at Sharks. There is either TV noise or club music keeping me awake. At LR or Artemis there are nice quiet places for men to relax and not to be bothered by the girls. But at Sharks I would book a girl and take her up stairs for a nice quiet nap and then fuck her when I wake up. The alternative would be drinking a ton of coffee and sit at the bar looking around. At least if I book a girl she would keep me entertained while I'm awake.
I think this might be my unique problem to Sharks during the winter, although GT is somewhat like this too but the kitchen tent isn't so bad. During the summer I would just go outside and nap so really any club is fine for me.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1967865]
They are true YMMV girl. They give much more if they like you and you do not limit a 30 minute session. When Evita leaves the club accompanied this Asian after the end of the work, we understand that the service after sale is also impeccable with her LOL.[/QUOTE]Since the club is closing or it is the end if a girls shift, is there a problem when a girl like Evita leaves the club accompanied by her client in the club?
It is the girls own time then.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967894]Since the club is closing or it is the end if a girls shift, is there a problem when a girl like Evita leaves the club accompanied by her client in the club?
It is the girls own time then.[/QUOTE]This always confused me too. Sometimes when a girl would leave with me she would leave with me out the front door and get in my car and then at other times the same girl would tell me to wait for her outside on the right corner of the road. I never bothered to ask because it kills the mood.
Also I heard recently the management at Sharks told the girls that their boyfriends haves to drop them off 10 meters away from the club. I guess they don't want customers to see BFs or pimps?
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967890]Diana actually gives a really good service. It has been said before that Diana can be a Sharks tip girl if she was not so restrictive to the 50 euro guys. But then she has made a conscious decision to cut out the low rent guys looking for the guys willing to pay 100 ir more, but then she brings her A game and it is really quite good.[/QUOTE]Yes "tip top". LOL Her body turns my head quickly and I am an aloof type.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1967860]She has not been there from 10 days ago. If she comes back to Sharks? It depends on what happens at Globe.
She is one of the victims of the massive arrival of girls in the club. She knows she can earn more by changing the condition in which she works.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Pity she has left. Hope she returns soon.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1967794]A top GF, if she really worked in RLD? 140 CHF minimum now.[/QUOTE]Ohh so sorry but yes your angel did. As times goes by.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1967864]It's up to each customer to waste his money as he sees fit, and girls won't complain about nice long bookings. The customer may well think it is worth it as he is in seventh heaven, and the exact amount of money spent may matter very little. Sometimes a customer is enjoying sufficiently, he just does not want to release it and return to boredom in the lounge.
For Asians and others, there can be a status thing as well, about having one or two of the prettiest girls all to himself. We also have a customer booking Janine for hours to drink on a couch. This upsets some customers. We should have better things to worry about. Girls will choose the best money option.
.[/QUOTE]Ofcourse it was kinda late writing the report so I didn't really think through it just my pov. I'm was thinking wth you do in the room for 2 hrs or more, LOL.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1967865]Your Patrizie envy that as many girls of Sharks LOL.
They are true YMMV girl. They give much more if they like you and you do not limit a 30 minute session. When Evita leaves the club accompanied this Asian after the end of the work, we understand that the service after sale is also impeccable with her LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah are rite. Idk I feel like for me 30 min is enough but I do stay longer like 1 h or 1 h 30 min if its rly good. I do repeat though but wud like a break to reenergize.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967890]It is interesting with Evita and Cosmina being Asian killers and how they decided to focus on this market OR wss it the Asians see in Evita and Cosmina a look that they like and go after Cosmina and Evita? Maybe a combination of both.
Dora is a sweetie but her saggy tits do not endear me.
Dora's friend Diana though is model like hot looking. Diana actually gives a really good service. It has been said before that Diana can be a Sharks top girl if she was not so restrictive to the 50 euro guys. But then she has made a conscious decision to cut out the low rent guys looking for the guys willing to pay 100 or more, but then she brings her A game and it is really quite good.[/QUOTE]Yeah seems they are specializing in the asian market with Cosmina acting cute and everything, LOL.
Dora normally not my type but her sweet personality won me over. Had a rly bad encounter with Diana so won't risk taking her even if I like her looks.
[QUOTE=Samplerr;1967073]Probably not the same girl. The Oase Briana is nowhere near 175 cm.[/QUOTE]And Brianna ex Oase has a new name at Sharks: Rihanna.
[QUOTE=GuyFromParis;1967998]And Brianna ex Oase has a new name at Sharks: Rihanna.[/QUOTE]Blond, not tall, Rhiana?
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1967896]Also I heard recently the management at Sharks told the girls that their boyfriends haves to drop them off 10 meters away from the club.
I guess they don't want customers to see BFs or pimps?[/QUOTE]Some months ago one Girl met her BF or pimp at the Sharks-reception, he was bringing her food or something else. The girl had to leave the Club after that!
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967894]Since the club is closing or it is the end if a girls shift, is there a problem when a girl like Evita leaves the club accompanied by her client in the club?
It is the girls own time then.[/QUOTE]All the girls I met outside the clubs, gave me their phone number and we fix a date but never they will go with me, too risky for them and difficult to do at Oase or World without being see by the management.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1967794]After a short tour at Sharks on April, even I really wish her to retire soon, even she said: You really wish? But I don't think she will return to Sharks where she worked on 2013 . A top GF, if she really worked in RLD? 140 CHF minimum now.[/QUOTE]Did she say something about when she wants to retire? She started at T26 in the RLD in Frankfurt until she had paid back the debt to the guy who "helped" her to come to Germany. Then she moved to World. First time I fucked her was in February 2011 for 50.
HB.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1967868]The photos show her tits well, but do not quite do full justice to her fabulous ass, due to legs wide apart stance.[/QUOTE]With these photos, if you don't know her and she looks quite different than in 2011/2012, more sophisticated, you will not find her.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1968085]Did she say something about when she wants to retire? She started at T26 in the RLD in Frankfurt until she had paid back the debt to the guy who "helped" her to come to Germany. Then she moved to World. First time I fucked her was in February 2011 for 50.
HB.[/QUOTE]Her last planned tour she started on 9 November, maybe our last time on this Sunday, because I don't plan to go to Romania. Certainly a beautiful country according to photos I was shown, same road in Romania than legendary Prato Stelvio, but I have more dreamed spots for ski and climbing. I wish her to be really free now, at 27 yo, and as I said to her when I left: enjoy your life with your wonderful life present. Her life is with him.
She was a Monday evening dream at Sharks, she recognized me before I did, at Globe, because she changed her hair color, coming straight to me and saying: I remember how you treat me at Sharks. Each time and this Sunday, she came to me at Globe.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967081]...Dina is so bad for divorcing you on the grounds of all your pussy licking. How did she know that you lick pussy with all your girls?...[/QUOTE]Dina is a layal reader of my reports in ISG and happened to know who YamaYama is, LOL.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1968177]Dina is a layal reader of my reports in ISG and happened to know who YamaYama is, LOL.[/QUOTE]I understand. There are some girls at Sharks, such as Kelly, who have a hobby of picking the ISG writers in the club.
Girls like Kelly, read and analyse the reports of writers and then think back who in the club went with those girls or did the things that was said in their report.
It really means that reporters do not report to remain anonymous.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1967985]Ofcourse it was kinda late writing the report so I didn't really think through it just my pov. I'm was thinking wth you do in the room for 2 hrs or more, LOL.
Yeah seems they are specializing in the asian market with Cosmina acting cute and everything, LOL.
Dora normally not my type but her sweet personality won me over. Had a rly bad encounter with Diana so won't risk taking her even if I like her looks.[/QUOTE]Two hours with two girls like Evita and Cosmina is a minimum 400 unless you have pre-negotiated a deal. It is a nice feeling to have two girls all over you licking and sucking all your protuberances and your own orifices. It must be a great sight seeing both Cosmina and Evita lined up on their hands and knees in doggie style ready for a rogering.
It is not only Cosmina that acts cute. Evita does a good line in being endearing too. Evita also does a good line in entertaining the German regulars with banter and these guys who do not even take her to the room.
There are American and Asian guys that exclusively only go with either Cosmina or Evita to the point of not going with anyone else at Sharks. That goes to show the allure that Cosmina and Evita have over their customers to command their loyalty. It is almost funny to ask these guys, "Are you allowed to go with anyone but Evita?" and similarly the same question for guys that only go with Cosmina. Then there are the guys that take both Cosmina and Evita together. True, Asian killers.
Dora is cute and is a special girl personality wise but her saggy tits really don't do it for me.
So bad that Diana give you a bad encounter. Was it a 50 euro session or did you opt for 100 euro minimum and she still did not work enough to satisfy your demands?
Diana, for me, when services are discussed up front, gives a great service. She can over time be made to act more girlfriend like. She really tells it like it is which is refreshing. I mean she has a lot of intelligence on what is going on in the club.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1967979]Ohh so sorry but yes your angel did. As times goes by.[/QUOTE]Not my angel when I see public sex at Globe. As I said to her when I didn't repeat on Sunday like on last time, because of bad images. Just my GF for her behavior at Globe when she is with me, or free and smiling.
What I call angels are girls like Sandra. De or Dounia. Srb at GT, full of kindness.
Even she started in low level place, she became a superstar at World when World had 100 girls on Saturday nights, she was busy at Sharks on April, and she is one of the busiest at Globe. I don't think any WG in Germany can make same money than her. For our last times, she did worth for me more than 400 and I didn't regret my money, dreams have no rate, when most of FKK girls don't worth to pay for me. I'm sure Mia would be high level, Danny can be a top performer, but Kate is a real woman. I have the prettiest girls in clubs I visit, I met some really high sexual performers, but Kate and Madi World were real sensual, sophisticated look women with a real aura and classy behavior with me, not just little dolls girls.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1967896]Also I heard recently the management at Sharks told the girls that their boyfriends haves to drop them off 10 meters away from the club. I guess they don't want customers to see BFs or pimps?[/QUOTE]Is that 10 meters from the Sharks drive way entrance where the taxis congregate at night or is that 10 meters from the glass entrance doors to the Sharks reception?
I still see girls driven up to the glass entrance doors to the building and some girls dropped off at the drive way entrance and the girl has to walk the 100 or so meters to the club entrance and some girls actually walk along the public road to start work at the club.
Then as you have reported some girls are happy to leave the club with their customers while they wait at Reception for each other to get changed into street clothes. Well relaxed management.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1967896]
Also I heard recently the management at Sharks told the girls that their boyfriends haves to drop them off 10 meters away from the club. I guess they don't want customers to see BFs or pimps?[/QUOTE]Makes sense. That boyfriend / pimp pickup roll with 20 ish girls I saw at Goldentime for example was a real anti-boner. LOL. How obvious are they supposed to make it? Seen some simillair things at Artemis, but not as bad... I suppose it is even worse when the pimps actually enter the clubs though... but that is a different story
These girls do all kinds of sexual acts with so many people. If we really think, imagine and visualize all that, it is impossible to even touch them. Best not to think about other men and what they do with these girls. I see some really old, quite quite fat and totally ugly geezers, and for all we know, that innocent dream girl that looks like a knockout model might have licked that oldie geezer's arsehole for the last half hour prior to your session. (In fact, that's one reason why I don't kiss even my special girls, unless I know for sure it is their first session of the day). What we know is that for a price, any and every service will be provided by these girls, nothing is impossible, so we truly do not know what they do and did with other guys.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1968191]Makes sense. That boyfriend / pimp pickup roll with 20 ish girls I saw at Goldentime for example was a real anti-boner. LOL. How obvious are they supposed to make it? Seen some simillair things at Artemis, but not as bad...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1968190]Is that 10 meters from the Sharks drive way entrance where the taxis congregate at night or is that 10 meters from the glass entrance doors to the Sharks reception?
I still see girls driven up to the glass entrance doors to the building and some girls dropped off at the drive way entrance and the girl has to walk the 100 or so meters to the club entrance and some girls actually walk along the public road to start work at the club.
Then as you have reported some girls are happy to leave the club with their customers while they wait at Reception for each other to get changed into street clothes. Well relaxed management.[/QUOTE]I think it's suppose to be 10 meters away from the driveway entrance, not sure. I think some of the more established girls will have more privilege than the newer girls. I think they probably made some stupid rule that most people will break but they can use it as an excuse to kick some girls out or something. The rules are definitely not applied equally to all girls like drug use or leaving with customers.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967736]Anja the Romanian / Albanian is a case in point. She makes it clear that she gives a different service to those she feels something connected and a lesser service for those she is indifferent to. Then Anja says there are the customers that she does not go with as she would be put off by them. So I guess what she is saying that you are privileged if she agrees to go with you to the room. It is not a mechanical act for her and she needs to feel something for the man she is going to suck his cock and lick his balls or stick her finger in his ass...[/QUOTE]Really funny story about Anja, at least more than claiming to know me in private. Your German friend told Anja about me, but on a slow business day, she was not often so busy, she came to me with a blond girl, I answered I never go with 2 girls, so Anja left and let the blond with me. The blond understood in 1 minute I was not attracted and asked me if I wanted her friend, she left, returned to Anja who came alone. I was not so attracted, but it was a challenge to show to a girl who was said bad things about me, how I behave with women, even prostitutes in brothels. 1 hour room, after our first room which was a good surprise because more friendly in room than her turning around behavior in the lounge, she gave me a nickname she told to another French guy. I promised her to repeat, she became really friendly, we repeated, second room was even better, playful but not sweet GF nor sensual enough for me. On Monday 31 October, she was with a guy but she went to me, so I had to answer I couldn't have sex, she came again on Saturday 5 November, but didn't insist. If she really goes to work at Globe, it will be nice to chat about Sharks bullshits with her, all girls know me now at Globe, after about 10 visits since June, and they know I only go with 2 girls, even top dancer Stefie really worth.
When I will decide to return to Sharks, when I will be allowed soon to drive again in Germany, I will have a new challenge about another girl who was also told about me, but if we happen to go to room, I m sure it will be an easy challenge to show her my behavior.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1968177]Dina is a layal reader of my reports in ISG and happened to know who YamaYama is, LOL.[/QUOTE]Oh, bad luck. You should conceal yourself carefully.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1968183]I understand. There are some girls at Sharks, such as Kelly, who have a hobby of picking the ISG writers in the club.
Girls like Kelly, read and analyse the reports of writers and then think back who in the club went with those girls or did the things that was said in their report.
It really means that reporters do not report to remain anonymous.[/QUOTE]Who is Kelly? I want to see this smart girl. If she could figure out whom I am, I'd like to bribe her three one-hour sessions. LOL.
Entry fee for the Sharks New Year's Eve party is 100 euro, at advance sales 80 euro. Club opens at 4 pm and party goes open end "till no one can stand anymore".
[QUOTE=Craiova;1968245]Entry fee for the Sharks New Year's Eve party is 100 euro, at advance sales 80 euro. Club opens at 4 pm and party goes open end "till no one can stand anymore".[/QUOTE]That is at least an hour earlier in a prior year when it opened up at 5 pm or maybe even 6 pm one time. This is making more of a day and night of it.
Sounds like Oase and Sharks go head to head. I cannot recall if Palace also has a New Years Party. Then there are the NRW clubs and BW clubs getting in on the act, notwithstanding, club Globe in Zurich.
I have fond memories of the Swiss clubs on Christmas day after Christmas lunch with friends then going on after to fuck one Romanian before going to well deserved bed.
Then doing the same sort of behavior at New Years when the girl friends are gone to sleep, the boys go a fucking the pay for play professionals.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1968177]Dina is a layal reader of my reports in ISG and happened to know who YamaYama is, LOL.[/QUOTE]But why then is the divorce only happening now, when you have been writing your marvellous reports of pussylicking of Romanian girls for so many years and she had been loyally reading all of them?
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1968247]
Sounds like Oase and Sharks go head to head. I cannot recall if Palace also has a New Years Party. [/QUOTE]Yes also Palace has again a New Years party and in the Frankfurt area FKK Rom too.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;1968248]But why then is the divorce only happening now, when you have been writing your marvellous reports of pussylicking of Romanian girls for so many years and she had been loyally reading all of them?[/QUOTE]Dina is afraid of getting too many big O's with YY. LOL.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;1968248]But why then is the divorce only happening now.....[/QUOTE]The latest time we were in a room was last May, when she told me she knew I called her my FKK wife in my ISG reports. She then probably read all my reports of May, and made up her mind to stay away from me, LOL.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1968260]The latest time we were in a room was last May, when she told me she knew I called her my FKK wife in my ISG reports. She then probably read all my reports of May, and made up her mind to stay away from me, LOL.[/QUOTE]Dina's memory is long and her reach is far. . She held that grudge for 6 long months that you were ingratiating yourself with the pussies of Romanians and she did not want any more to do with that. I am sure now Dina will be reading the very public discussion of your divorce from her which she can take up with you the next time you visit Sharks when she is present.
I missed seeing you at Oase when we were both in the club.
Carry on giving orgasms my friend.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1968268]Dina's memory is long and her reach is far. . She held that grudge for 6 long months that you were ingratiating yourself with the pussies of Romanians and she did not want any more to do with that. I am sure now Dina will be reading the very public discussion of your divorce from her which she can take up with you the next time you visit Sharks when she is present.[/QUOTE]Dina is probably one of the smartest girls I've met at any FKK. I don't think there is any bad intent from Dina, but I honestly think she just get tired of the same guys over time. Unless you have some outside value to her, her attitude towards you will fade over time. So that plus when you catch her in a bad mood is "bye bye" for her.
I know for a fact that she is one of the few girls that actually really likes the job, and I think she actually like to meet new nice guys to fuck. If you are her favor of the month then you'll get the VIP Dina treatment, but it won't last. Someone has said she doesn't treat her long time customers nicely, but I think she's just looking for new dick and is sick of the old. Haha!
Cool girl to talk to when she is in the mood.
I feel Dina is getting too much now. Fact is that tons of girls at these clubs are constantly trying to pull the same trick on lots of guys. And Dina's take on it is mild compared to other incidents I either have heard of, or experienced myself.
Yes, it blows the way it is done, but if Dina is reading this forum as YY claims, she would also have read some weeks back that a few (unnamed) romanians had taken the exact same approach towards her. So in that context it makes sense and she has backings. But we never will know who starts these disputes. And it is probably just one or two romanians also. Not the whole lot. She just doesnt know which ones...
As I have said before, for me to stay with just one girl at these clubs (as lots of girls are trying to lure me into), it would require a hell of a lot of extras from their side. lol
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1968190]
I still see girls driven up to the glass entrance doors to the building and some girls dropped off at the drive way entrance and the girl has to walk the 100 or so meters to the club entrance and some girls actually walk along the public road to start work at the club.
Then as you have reported some girls are happy to leave the club with their customers while they wait at Reception for each other to get changed into street clothes. Well relaxed management.[/QUOTE]Rule for girls to be dropped off by private drivers of BF is outside on the street, a few meters off the Sharks sign. Taxis drop the girls next to the entrance. I've not seen girls leave with customers openly at the reception or getting into their cars in front of the reception.
HB.
Spent 12½ hrs of wellness and debauchery from Saturday 3 pm to Sunday 3. 30 am. Had briefed myself reading the reports of the last 2 months for which I'm highly grateful to the contributors. As a respectable sybarite I feasted on the rich and fabulous buffet, had long naps, a professional massage over 1 HR, enjoyed the whirpools, had nasty and highly tingling room sessions.
The line-up was amazing. Hard to beat that huge amount of attractive, cute, lovely, young women. Of course there were also the ubiquitous substantial contingent of heavily tatooed and pimped bitches, let alone the dyed and bleached Gypsy bunch. By any means I was spoilt for choice. Though I don't fancy number acrobatics the felt ratio must have been 3:1. One would call it a buyer's market; unfortunately one based on a rigid price structure.
Dina, Hungarian. Observed the scenery from upstairs for a while as I got fascinated by her provoking smile. What a gorgeous queen! Went directly to the bar were she was seating fully naked with her legs on another stool. Greeted and kissed her hand after which we interchanged the usual information. I noticed her insistence on making sure before hand what will be on the room menu. Took one of the huts upstairs. Started off kissing, licking and sucking her entire body. Excepting the mouth, oh well! Got down to the holy of holiest and kept licking and sucking for ages. Her juices were flowing during which she uttered weak moaning sounds. The more I kissed, sucked and licked, the tastier it became. Divine! At a certain point I was exhausted and turned on my back expecting a blowjob which didn't follow. I was reluctant to insist on it as I didn't want to disturb the flowing harmony. Condom had been unpacked and rolled on after which I asked her to climb on me. Pumped her from below till I climaxed groaning heavily. Cuddled with my head immersed into her magnificent boobs till I recovered. 1 HR /100 EUR.
Vivian, Romanian. I noticed this babe during the evening. Pretty face, leggy, cute perky peach-shape titties. Was watching the scenery from upstairs again as she came up teasing single guests on her way. She approached and embraced me from behind. Had a nasty chat; there was immediately an erotic tension established. She's the typical Latin chick: talking loudly, slightly vulgar and provoking. Headed off to the Kamasutra room downstairs (on her insistent suggestion). Sensual touches. Had her fingernails gliding everywhere on my body; especilly on my ears, nipples and balls. The party continued with a mind blowing passionate and skillful oral treatment. All the time she displayed a provoking manner saying nice and dirty words alternatively. As soon as the rubber cap was on she asked me in an ordering tone to render my performance. Pure provocation! Took her the missionary way with her legs on my shoulders and screwd her into delirium (at least my delirium as I unloaded intensively). Cuddled for a while after which she asked me to caress her back with my fingers. I obliged happily. 1½hrs /150 EUR.
[QUOTE=Checkers1;1967746]So Anja is not at Sharks anymore?[/QUOTE]I had good times this summer with her. Especially on the GFE side. I miss this magic.
Then she was a bit too much on testing my kindness after refusing to exchange phones to check her presence or place when I'm in Germany. Will not know if it was a 'no test'. Last time she told me I don't understand her. With this behavior, i will not ask again.
I (try to) stop play with people saying ying and yang alltogether, especially in pay time wich 99% means a total lost of money. When I pay, I appreciate the GFE smile, DFK, sexual thingS (upto noko), not the sleeping, useless talk, massage side unless inclusive upto...
One of sirio sharks girl has been the queen this year. Beautiful but really naturally unrespectfull in service.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1968278]Yes, it blows the way it is done, but if Dina is reading this forum as YY claims, she would also have read some weeks back that a few (unnamed) romanians had taken the exact same approach towards her. So in that context it makes sense and she has backings. But we never will know who starts these disputes. And it is probably just one or two romanians also. Not the whole lot. She just doesnt know which ones...[/QUOTE]3 months ago, Dina told me that a particular Romanian clique was being unfriendly to her, and that these particular girls were not hygienic. Maybe YamaYama wrote about his pussylicking exploits with one or more these specific girls and this was what she actually objects to, rather than the pussylicking of Romanian girls in general.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1968187]
So bad that Diana give you a bad encounter. Was it a 50 euro session or did you opt for 100 euro minimum and she still did not work enough to satisfy your demands?
Diana, for me, when services are discussed up front, gives a great service. She can over time be made to act more girlfriend like. She really tells it like it is which is refreshing. I mean she has a lot of intelligence on what is going on in the club.[/QUOTE]50 e and I asked her if she kissed etc but she didn't want to honour the deal so I couldn't stay 1 h. The thing is that if its good I wud stay 1 h and perhaps even repeat the same day.
Pretty much the same routine and I expected more girls but was kinda dissapointed with the LU. Was hoping to see some of my favs but saw non of them. Was struggling to make a choice and later when Mandy came over to talk I decided to check her out.
Mandy, blonde 160 cm normal body type. Point is that if I didn't knew she had good service from the reports I wouldn't even try her.
1 h with the normal stuff I enjoy. Repeat: yes.
There was 1 girl I was interested in and she was making pole dances but very amatuerish. Anyway seems like only kissing for 1 h so mission abort. Think I did the rite thing.
At the diner I saw a very pretty face gal but she was with a man otherwise I think I wud go over and ask her name. Didn't see her after that which I strange. Thought it was Nastia but wasnt sure.
Saw milana but she was busy talking to someone else and later prolly was with her guy that keep booking her for hrs. Also saw steffi and talked to her briefly.
Was rly bored bc there was no one I wanted to go with in the lounge for a long time. Saw a tall brunette sitting by herself but seems a little cold so didn't do anything. Was thinking about leaving but so went over to talk. Introduced herself as Nastia sure she got a nice body but woudnt consider her face exceptional. After taking of her bra you can see her perfect boobies, LOL.
There was another tallish girl but with small boobies that I considered but was too tired.
Will try to find that pretty face gal next time.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1968305]50 e and I asked her if she kissed etc but she didn't want to honour the deal so I couldn't stay 1 h. The thing is that if its good I wud stay 1 h and perhaps even repeat the same day.[/QUOTE]Ok. This is why Diana is not a top Sharks girl when she can be. You know how good looking Diana is and how model like her body is being all proportional. She has the mantra that for 50 euro you get just a suck and fuck. No kiss or pussy licking. I expect she gave you this service level.
When you have made it clear to her you will spend 100 or more she changes arroach I found. Diana does give DFK and lets you play with her like an insisistent boyfriend wanting his mitts all over her fabulous body. Diana really is a beautiful girl.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1968310]Ok. This is why Diana is not a top Sharks girl when she can be. You know how good looking Diana is and how model like her body is being all proportional. She has the mantra that for 50 euro you get just a suck and fuck. No kiss or pussy licking. I expect she gave you this service level.
When you have made it clear to her you will spend 100 or more she changes arroach I found. Diana does give DFK and lets you play with her like an insisistent boyfriend wanting his mitts all over her fabulous body. Diana really is a beautiful girl.[/QUOTE]Well I kissed her not DFK but still and licked her pussy, LOL. Still it was an awful experience bc she kept saying 50 e more for kissing in the room after she confirmed kissing outside.
Lost my interest in her so won't ever consider going with her again. Lately I found it difficult to repeat girls want to try new girls. The repeat gets less excited than the 1st one no wonder married guys are tired of fucking their wives, haha.
[QUOTE=HappyFkk;1968295]I had good times this summer with her. Especially on the GFE side. I miss this magic.
Then she was a bit too much on testing my kindness after refusing to exchange phones to check her presence or place when I'm in Germany. Will not know if it was a 'no test'. Last time she told me I don't understand her. With this behavior, i will not ask again.
I (try to) stop play with people saying ying and yang alltogether, especially in pay time wich 99% means a total lost of money. When I pay, I appreciate the GFE smile, DFK, sexual thingS (upto noko), not the sleeping, useless talk, massage side unless inclusive upto...
One of sirio sharks girl has been the queen this year. Beautiful but really naturally unrespectfull in service.[/QUOTE]Happy,
Anja is pretty with sensational tits that she jiggles around. She is free spiritted and likes to party. She does some cool stuff with customers when she likes them. For customers she does not get on with then the reception can be less the freezing.
I know already she offers two tiered pricing where certain services are included in the pricing and where for others the pricing would be extra for the same services.
She openly admits some customers she feels nothing for them and finds some customers really creepy and would go out of her way to refuse them.
The fact Anja did not honour you with her handy number is appalling.
Maybe it is better this way and she is gone. No great loss.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1968314]Well I kissed her not DFK but still and licked her pussy, LOL. Still it was an awful experience bc she kept saying 50 e more for kissing in the room after she confirmed kissing outside.
Lost my interest in her so won't ever consider going with her again. Lately I found it difficult to repeat girls want to try new girls. The repeat gets less excited than the 1st one no wonder married guys are tired of fucking their wives, haha.[/QUOTE]Ok. I cannot legislate for Diana letting you kiss her but not DFK for 50. She also let you DATY her as well plus she suck you BBBJ and let you fuck her in many positions regardless of her asking for more money.
Yeah. I know. I realise I get bored with one pussy. So bad. I want to experience more pussies and assholes of girls and spurting my come on their faves to finish. Tying myself down to one lady is a total change in lifestyle. I know I will want to fuck something else within a couple of weeks.
I have to lead a clandestine life. It is all cloak and dagger.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1968284]Rule for girls to be dropped off by private drivers of BF is outside on the street, a few meters off the Sharks sign. Taxis drop the girls next to the entrance. I've not seen girls leave with customers openly at the reception or getting into their cars in front of the reception.
HB.[/QUOTE]Ok. That explain the unusual practice I see of hookers getting dropped off by their posse at the entrance to the Sharks driveway rather than at the Reception doors. Yeah, it must have been taxis I saw dropping girls at the Reception.
Seriously, some girls do leave the club with customers from the reception. Azn has as he reported below and as reported by Carpe Viam and so have I.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967736]Anja the Romanian / Albanian is a case in point. She makes it clear that she gives a different service to those she feels something connected and a lesser service for those she is indifferent to. Then Anja says there are the customers that she does not go with as she would be put off by them. So I guess what she is saying that you are privileged if she agrees to go with you to the room.....[/QUOTE]I don't think Anja is a YMMV girl. I can testify that.
I first met her in this July, one week after I broke up with the Hungarian star. Anja provided one of best sessions in my FKK journeys. Since then, we had been together for total 10 hours in eight sessions (she disappeared short period during this summer). Her services were very consistent. Some customers did not feel confident on her strikingly beautiful face, and they presumed that Anja could not provide good services. She was a victim from this presumption. So this is one of reasons that she was not as busy as she was supposed to be. She even got much less business than those Panda-Hunters, while to me, she is much better than Cosmina.
I feel kind of pity that she left for Globe, which means I would have to pay three times cost to see her. However I doubt she could make more money there. Ex-globe WGs Lena (might be Vivian) once told me that they actually made more net income in Sharks than in Globe. I will be on business trip to Zurich in near future. I decide to visit Globe to investigate possibility if Anja coming back. I will keep posted.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967736]Anja the Romanian / Albanian is a case in point. She makes it clear that she gives a different service to those she feels something connected and a lesser service for those she is indifferent to. Then Anja says there are the customers that she does not go with as she would be put off by them. So I guess what she is saying that you are privileged if she agrees to go with you to the room.....[/QUOTE]I don't think Anja is a YMMV girl. I can testify that.
I first met her in this July, one week after I broke up with the Hungarian star. Anja provided one of best sessions in my FKK journeys. Since then, we had been together for total 10 hours in eight sessions (she disappeared short period during this summer). Her services were very consistent. Some customers did not feel confident on her strikingly beautiful face, and they presumed that Anja could not provide good services. She was a victim from this presumption. So this is one of reasons that she was not as busy as she was supposed to be. She even got much less business than those Panda-Hunters, while to me, she is much better than Cosmina.
I feel kind of pity that she left for Globe, which means I would have to pay three times cost to see her. However I doubt she could make more money there. Ex-globe WGs Lena (might be Vivian) once told me that they actually made more net income in Sharks than in Globe. I will be on business trip to Zurich in near future. I decide to visit Globe to investigate possibility if Anja coming back. I will keep posted.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1968319]Happy,
Anja is pretty with sensational tits that she jiggles around. She is free spiritted and likes to party. She does some cool stuff with customers when she likes them. For customers she does not get on with then the reception can be less the freezing.
I know already she offers two tiered pricing where certain services are included in the pricing and where for others the pricing would be extra for the same services.
She openly admits some customers she feels nothing for them and finds some customers really creepy and would go out of her way to refuse them.
The fact Anja did not honour you with her handy number is appalling.
Maybe it is better this way and she is gone. No great loss.[/QUOTE]It is a big loss for us and Sharks. She was one of the "human" girls at Sharks. Do you know why she has left?
Very well said.
Her too honest character certainly prevented her from becoming the best girl in the club.
Due to a private party, I had a special service without paying extra even though she does not call me as a mouse, because I do not have small body. Eventually she does not enter the Globe, but she goes to another. Yes, she is capricious LOL.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1968319]Happy,
Anja is pretty with sensational tits that she jiggles around. She is free spiritted and likes to party. She does some cool stuff with customers when she likes them. For customers she does not get on with then the reception can be less the freezing.
I know already she offers two tiered pricing where certain services are included in the pricing and where for others the pricing would be extra for the same services.
She openly admits some customers she feels nothing for them and finds some customers really creepy and would go out of her way to refuse them.
The fact Anja did not honour you with her handy number is appalling.
Maybe it is better this way and she is gone. No great loss.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HappyFkk;1968295]I had good times this summer with her. Especially on the GFE side. I miss this magic.
Then she was a bit too much on testing my kindness after refusing to exchange phones to check her presence or place when I'm in Germany. Will not know if it was a 'no test'. Last time she told me I don't understand her. With this behavior, i will not ask again.
I (try to) stop play with people saying ying and yang alltogether, especially in pay time wich 99% means a total lost of money. When I pay, I appreciate the GFE smile, DFK, sexual thingS (upto noko), not the sleeping, useless talk, massage side unless inclusive upto...
One of sirio sharks girl has been the queen this year. Beautiful but really naturally unrespectfull in service.[/QUOTE]For me a FKK is the place where everything is cheated, and it should remain like this. The girls have wrong names, we also are building stories around who we really are, when you start to exchange phone numbers, meet the girls outside the clubs you enter the real life and I don't recommend anyone to do this.
One of these Romanian was told by customers that YamaYama wrote in her Japanese blog that Dina ordered him not to lick her pussy because she practices a special service. Perhaps, this incident triggered the real Romanian-Hungarian war LOL.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;1968304]3 months ago, Dina told me that a particular Romanian clique was being unfriendly to her, and that these particular girls were not hygienic. Maybe YamaYama wrote about his pussylicking exploits with one or more these specific girls and this was what she actually objects to, rather than the pussylicking of Romanian girls in general.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967738]When you work in Switzerland, inevitably the girls have to pay Swiss taxes. As we know a part of the 140 CHF fee for half hour also includes a service tax element. The girls would lose this service tax element as well as pay income taxes on their self employment business profits. Also living in Switzerland is dead expensive. Cherries at the local market at 65 CHF for a kilogram, chocolate at easily over 100 CHF a kilogram, steak at over 100 CHF a kilogram.[/QUOTE]In Zermatt or Verbier which are high fashion ski resort, but only interesting for me to free ride and I look forward, I buy 100 g white chocolate for about 3/4 CHF, never 10 . When I have time, I can have very good diner in Switzerland for 40 CHF.
At Globe, WGs make twice more money than in Germany, even after they paid the room on desk each time they finish the room.
If Anja really goes there and succeed to get business, but she will have to change her behavior even she is friendly, then she will not return to Sharks. Not same business, not same money.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1968314]Well I kissed her not DFK but still and licked her pussy, LOL. Still it was an awful experience bc she kept saying 50 e more for kissing in the room after she confirmed kissing outside.
Lost my interest in her so won't ever consider going with her again. Lately I found it difficult to repeat girls want to try new girls. The repeat gets less excited than the 1st one no wonder married guys are tired of fucking their wives, haha.[/QUOTE]Like you, I like girls who talk sweetly and don't kill my mood. It is required for the GFE illusion. Very mild upsell does not really worry me, but it can go too far very easily.
I wish girls would just shut up rather than keep talking about the limitations of 50 Euro note, since I am a one hour customer anyway. I think the really smart girls realise they get repeat customers, by omitting the tough talk.
I do mainly repeat girls so can bypass all the non-GFE talk. I will never be someone to negotiate for session service. Either she wants me for an hour or she doesn't. Up to her to be good enough. If she wants repeat, she better give DFK as well. Otherwise its likely I am bored by her already.
A top service girl like Moira as example, never had to negotiate with me, I am sure. Just perform to hook the customer for plenty of repeat bookings. Maybe the smart girl's tactics vary depending on whether customer is a regular or not, and whether he is seen to repeat girls.
I love sweet girls with no crap upsell talk at the beginning (or during the session). Yes they still exist, even getting a bit scarce. Upsell at Sharks may well be not far behind Oase levels these days, for 1 hour customers at least, since I don't notice much difference if trying girls for the first time.
I hope the girls are reading this report too. I know they are. LOL They need to understand too much talk can lose the customer quickly. Be sweet and make the illusion. Hook the customer by guile.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1968454]Like you, I like girls who talk sweetly and don't kill my mood. It is required for the GFE illusion. Very mild upsell does not really worry me, but it can go too far very easily.
I wish girls would just shut up rather than keep talking about the limitations of 50 Euro note, since I am a one hour customer anyway. I think the really smart girls realise they get repeat customers, by omitting the tough talk.
I do mainly repeat girls so can bypass all the non-GFE talk. I will never be someone to negotiate for session service. Either she wants me for an hour or she doesn't. Up to her to be good enough. If she wants repeat, she better give DFK as well. Otherwise its likely I am bored by her already.
A top service girl like Moira as example, never had to negotiate with me, I am sure. Just perform to hook the customer for plenty of repeat bookings. Maybe the smart girl's tactics vary depending on whether customer is a regular or not, and whether he is seen to repeat girls.
I love sweet girls with no crap upsell talk at the beginning (or during the session). Yes they still exist, even getting a bit scarce. Upsell at Sharks may well be not far behind Oase levels these days, for 1 hour customers at least, since I don't notice much difference if trying girls for the first time.
I hope the girls are reading this report too. I know they are. LOL They need to understand too much talk can lose the customer quickly. Be sweet and make the illusion. Hook the customer by guile.[/QUOTE]I agree master Syzy. I do ask what the girls do before commiting myself but its pretty normal stuff.
I hate when girls are asking for the room in less than 1 min girls that approach my like that I write off right away even those I'm interested in.
I'm sure the girls will be aware if a certain customer mainly do 30 min or can / will stay longer.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1968210]Your German friend told Anja about me,
she gave me a nickname she told to another French guy..[/QUOTE]I am sorry Sirioja, to explain your story you will need to provide more context. Like a lot of your writing it seems you are writing to yourself, quipping about your own in jokes and your own perception of situations which may have no basis in reality. As far as I know, you do not want anyone to talk to you, so how do you know all of these things that you write. It may be a case of having the context incorrect. In this case, if I may, could you provide further explanation or clarification on who is the German friend? I am trying to think which German girl you are talking about.
I understand that there are a number of nicknames, none of them pleasant, the girls have for their favored Francophone writer. So please, as some advice, do not be overly concerned.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1968210]Really funny story about Anja, at least more than claiming to know me in private. Your German friend told Anja about me, but on a slow business day, she was not often so busy, she came to me with a blond girl, I answered I never go with 2 girls, so Anja left and let the blond with me. The blond understood in 1 minute I was not attracted and asked me if I wanted her friend, she left, returned to Anja who came alone. I was not so attracted, but it was a challenge to show to a girl who was said bad things about me, how I behave with women, even prostitutes in brothels. 1 hour room, after our first room which was a good surprise because more friendly in room than her turning around behavior in the lounge, she gave me a nickname she told to another French guy. I promised her to repeat, she became really friendly, we repeated, second room was even better, playful but not sweet GF nor sensual enough for me. On Monday 31 October, she was with a guy but she went to me, so I had to answer I couldn't have sex, she came again on Saturday 5 November, but didn't insist. If she really goes to work at Globe, it will be nice to chat about Sharks bullshits with her, all girls know me now at Globe, after about 10 visits since June, and they know I only go with 2 girls, even top dancer Stefie really worth.
When I will decide to return to Sharks, when I will be allowed soon to drive again in Germany, I will have a new challenge about another girl who was also told about me, but if we happen to go to room, I m sure it will be an easy challenge to show her my behavior.[/QUOTE]This is the price to pay when you are a star.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1968325]Seriously, some girls do leave the club with customers from the reception. Azn has as he reported below and as reported by Carpe Viam and so have I.[/QUOTE]This totally skipped my mind until we started talking about this topic.
Seems like Sharks will also start a hotel so that customers can take girls out for the night in their hotel. I don't know where it'll physically be but I'm guessing maybe the current girls apartment will be remade for that. It makes sense because they are also building new housing for the girls. In addition to that, they are adding more rooms at Sharks behind the fish tank and they will redo the VIP room also.
I think this is fairly accurate, maybe someone like HB can confirm?
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1968193] I see some really old, quite quite fat and totally ugly geezers, and for all we know, that innocent dream girl that looks like a knockout model might have licked that oldie geezer's arsehole for the last half hour prior to your session. (In fact, that's one reason why I don't kiss even my special girls, unless I know for sure it is their first session of the day).[/QUOTE]I know what you mean Jnpr30.
It is not always possible but for the girls that lick my arse I like to get them first thing when they start their shift and have them lick my arse. Since if I get them later on then she may have offered that same arse licking service to other clients before me to earn extra money. Also these girls invariably provide deep french kissing so it is a case of arse to mouth going on. Nice to watch this in a porno with the girl taking your cock in her arsehole then you pull your cock our and push your dirty cock into her mouth for her to suck your cock clean. It is the sort of action you could get at FKK 40 (Dietzenbach) or Bernds.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1968557] Nice to watch this in a porno with the girl taking your cock in her arsehole then you pull your cock our and push your dirty cock into her mouth for her to suck your cock clean. It is the sort of action you could get at FKK 40 (Dietzenbach) or Bernds.[/QUOTE]I don't want destroy your illusion but girls at Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan even at Palace do the same. And they can look like angels and give sweet innocent DFK to the next guy.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1968561]I don't want destroy your illusion but girls at Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan even at Palace do the same. And they can look like angels and give sweet innocent DFK to the next guy.[/QUOTE]Craiova, you have not broken my illusion at all. I am quite sure that these porno sex acts are being performed in the mainstream FKK as well but there is a higher chance of doing it AO in AO clubs. Rhis is what I meant.
Pulling your covered cock out of a girls arsehole then pulling the condom off for her to shck your cock is not the same as doing that same act AO. Yes, this is done at the AO clubs.
Getting this same service AO is a little harder in the mainstream FKK clubs. I know the stats you orovide of how much AO sex goes on so I believe you.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1968599]Pulling your covered cock out of a girls arsehole then pulling the condom off for her to shck your cock is not the same as doing that same act AO.[/QUOTE]That's an affirmative. I've fucked many girls in the ass, then gotten sucked off afterwards. But like you say, I had a condom on when I was in their butt holes. This is not the same as a "pure" ass to mouth act, which I don't particularly want to do anyway. There was one time when I was fucking a hot girl in the butt, and she wanted me to go straight from her ass to her pussy. I had a condom on, and I fulfilled her wish, but I was surprised since most girls would be concerned about getting a bacterial infection by doing that. There is a whole special genre of porn focused on ass to mouth sex. Something for everybody LOL!
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1968447]In Zermatt or Verbier which are high fashion ski resort, but only interesting for me to free ride and I look forward, I buy 100 g white chocolate for about 3/4 CHF, never 10 . When I have time, I can have very good diner in Switzerland for 40 CHF.
Not same business, not same money.[/QUOTE]Are we sure to treat you personally as prime examples as the price of living in Switzerland from the man who sleeps in his igloo car to save money on hotel while spending his weekends in FKK clubs?
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1968609]Are we sure to treat you personally as prime examples as the price of living in Switzerland from the man who sleeps in his igloo car to save money on hotel while spending his weekends in FKK clubs?[/QUOTE]When I spend more than 100 days per year in FKK, not only for restaurant or hotel, when I often stay with my girls until closed at 4 or 5 am, if I'm not bored, when I m often on one day around Dόsseldorf and on the next day around Frankfurt or Zurich, when I drove more than 150 000 kms only in Germany since 4 years I discovered this new world, when I prefer Globe level now, what money do I really save? I could buy easily my 911 turbo 4's to get the grip with Shiftech race evolution, what we call a rocket, but I can't drive it to Zermatt or Verbier to go to eat white chocolate for 3,50 CHF without my best friends Scott. And what about Summer bike in Dolomiti, to visit Wellcum and Andiamo. At.
I know a bit about Swiss life rates and some girls who work at Globe are very happy about their business. I don't think they want to return to Sharks, I don't even say about dead World for business.
About Anja, she was said by the German guy we both know, he also spoke to Nastia about me, but she came to me, I didn't go to her on first time. After our first room, I never went to Anja even she made me promise to repeat, she came to me kissing me, several times, some saw this, I found excuses to avoid, but I promised so I repeated and no regret about my 200 for our 2 rooms, but I don t think she has woman manners level to worth 280 for 1 hour at Globe, when I pay more than 400 with no regret for Kate, her photos don t help because I don t think she plans to return to Sharks, and sometimes 560 for 2 hours with natural beauty Isabella, but Isabella is Isabella.
At least, I'm sure we don't know each other, I know only 1 guy who go to brothels, in private.
Unfortunately, you and too many others speak too much about me, without knowing me, how I behave with girls. But fact is, I'm a repeating girls specialist, so all these girls choose to have many rooms with me only for club rate, without extra, without tip, my only tip is to repeat on next week. Just facts versus bullshits.
Maybe we will really meet once.
[QUOTE=Checkers1;1968390]It is a big loss for us and Sharks. She was one of the "human" girls at Sharks. Do you know why she has left?[/QUOTE]If Anja really goes to Globe, I will see her, then go to Globe. Entry is 95 with great free foods and free drinks, only 30 more than Sharks. 30 mn are 140 , but with real social time before and shower together after, so about 1 hour with the girl, only 40 more, but no upselling for kissing or DATY at Globe, the girl would be fired. If she really provides public sex as it was written about on couch at Sharks, You can even fuck her on the pole podium and she may get her free entry for a next day. So You could have a great day with her for only 235 USD or or CHF. You decide if she worth?
I have been to a few places such as Costa Rica and Colombia so I decided to check out some FKK clubs after reading various forums on this website. I visited Oase, World, Palace and Sharks during my 1 week visit. I will post some reports of other places as well but Sharks had the best variety / line up so I went there for 3 days out of my trip.
First impression is a nice big open lounge area when you come in but there is quite a bit of smoking going on in here. It was great to see girls fully nude so you get what is advertised so to speak. There also have a good relaxation areas upstairs but with the loud music it can be hard to sleep.
Of the top of my head here are some the girls I went with.
1) Sidonia; small and sweet girl, not much kissing but still had a fun time with her.
2) Diana; slim blond girl, good kissing and had an enjoyable time with her.
3) Nelly; reddish hair, nice DFK and fun personality.
4) Yvette; another small girl but she seemed to have a good personality outside the room so gave her a shot. As expected lots of fun and energy in the room and had a great time with her.
5) Evita; saw her name many times on the forum and caught her when she just arrived at work. We had a good conversation and she has a beautiful face and body. In the room she was very sensual and I had an amazing time with her, I can see why she is a superstar in this club.
I had a wonderful time at the clubs here in Germany and especially at Sharks!
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1968520]This is the price to pay when you are a star.[/QUOTE]I wonder if some guys don't prefer to think and speak about other guys rather than about girls who look for rooms?
A star? Who is a star? Only high level or top model girls can be.
For me, just the most normal guy who enjoys the most normal sex. Women in private life, kiss you all the time and ask for long foreplay when they love you, they want to take long time for sex, not fast rabbit sex, they say to their friends: he is my man. I was lucky to be used to. I treat in same way prostitutes in brothels, why many repeat weekly with me. My only friend told me so many times: how can you go with the same girl, many times a day, every week? A pleasure, as long she makes me dream. I stop, when I don't dream anymore.
HappyF, thanks not to name her. When no more pleasure, don't lose your money, just go to next one, girls don't force us to go to room, even I never run after my girls, I prefer they come to me. Around Duss, ultra slim, green eyes, Maria at LR, should be your dream.
Anja is a YMMV girl in a sense she does not give the same favor to all customers (she is not Sandra or Megan). She can be very endearing by staying next to a client for free, but can be sarcastic by mocking a client by calling a mouse. Her service may also vary. In short, she is not yet professional enough as she loses a lot of money at the slot machine instead of trying to find customers. Hopefully she will have a lot of luck in a new place.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1968331]I don't think Anja is a YMMV girl. I can testify that.
I first met her in this July, one week after I broke up with the Hungarian star. Anja provided one of best sessions in my FKK journeys. Since then, we had been together for total 10 hours in eight sessions (she disappeared short period during this summer). Her services were very consistent. Some customers did not feel confident on her strikingly beautiful face, and they presumed that Anja could not provide good services. She was a victim from this presumption. So this is one of reasons that she was not as busy as she was supposed to be. She even got much less business than those Panda-Hunters, while to me, she is much better than Cosmina.
I feel kind of pity that she left for Globe, which means I would have to pay three times cost to see her. However I doubt she could make more money there. Ex-globe WGs Lena (might be Vivian) once told me that they actually made more net income in Sharks than in Globe. I will be on business trip to Zurich in near future. I decide to visit Globe to investigate possibility if Anja coming back. I will keep posted.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1968557]I know what you mean Jnpr30.
It is not always possible but for the girls that lick my arse I like to get them first thing when they start their shift and have them lick my arse. Since if I get them later on then she may have offered that same arse licking service to other clients before me to earn extra money. Also these girls invariably provide deep french kissing so it is a case of arse to mouth going on. Nice to watch this in a porno with the girl taking your cock in her arsehole then you pull your cock our and push your dirty cock into her mouth for her to suck your cock clean. It is the sort of action you could get at FKK 40 (Dietzenbach) or Bernds.[/QUOTE]Ha, funny. When it comes to licking my ass I don't care what time and turn it is, but when it comes to putting that tongue in my mouth, it better be clean which means before she was with anyone else on that day.
Actually, I was just responding to Pistons, who said it is a downer and anti boner to see your fav girl with an ugly pimp. My point being that if we begin imagining and visualizing our girls with other men in kinky or other situations, everything can be an anti boner.
That said, I did get that rim job a couple of times in the club. Once paid for it. When I watch it in porn on my iPad, it can appear hugely kinky, something forbidden and perhaps unachievable in real life with almost all the girls out there. When it was done for real to me in the club, the girl doing it matter of fact business way, it felt a bit funny, weirdly wet between my legs and while somewhat soothing, did absolutely nothing for my dick. Afterwards I carefully avoided kissing the girl in any way, yuck. Hope she did not feel offended. Itch scratched, moved on. Felt a bit sorry for the girl, her having to do it for a lousy 50 bucks. Oh well. She knew what she agreed to do, I guess. At least, I thoroughly wash my ass before every session.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967738]When you work in Switzerland, inevitably the girls have to pay Swiss taxes. As we know a part of the 140 CHF fee for half hour also includes a service tax element. The girls would lose this service tax element as well as pay income taxes on their self employment business profits. Also living in Switzerland is dead expensive. Cherries at the local market at 65 CHF for a kilogram, chocolate at easily over 100 CHF a kilogram, steak at over 100 CHF a kilogram.[/QUOTE]She could work in the US and buy cherries for $3 a pound in the summer, and have a nice steak dinner for $25. That is, unless she likes to go fruit picking at a cherry farm locally, in which case she can pick as many cherries as she likes and even eat them while she is picking them, and at the end of the day, pay a pittance for several pounds.
Like I said, pay sex is the cheapest good on sale in Europe. Most other things seem expensive to me over there.
[QUOTE=TheCane;1968607]There was one time when I was fucking a hot girl in the butt, and she wanted me to go straight from her ass to her pussy. I had a condom on, and I fulfilled her wish, but I was surprised since most girls would be concerned about getting a bacterial infection by doing that.[/QUOTE]Done that before with condom as well as AO style at Bernds. It can be spur of the moment.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1968636]About Anja, she was said by the German guy we both know,[/QUOTE]Seriously I do not know who this German guy is that you think I know.
I honestly think Anja gives a bad service due her YMMV approach as I have reported on before. I could not care less that she has left Sharks.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1968522]Seems like Sharks will also start a hotel so that customers can take girls out for the night in their hotel. I don't know where it'll physically be but I'm guessing maybe the current girls apartment will be remade for that. It makes sense because they are also building new housing for the girls. In addition to that, they are adding more rooms at Sharks behind the fish tank and they will redo the VIP room also.[/QUOTE]The Sharks business has taken a lease on some of the property that was previously used by the SEAT dealership further up the shared access road. Maybe the expansion plans that you reference has something to the additional space that the ex SEAT land will provide.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1968636]
At least, I'm sure we don't know each other, I know only 1 guy who go to brothels, in private.
Unfortunately, you and too many others speak too much about me, without knowing me, how I behave with girls. But fact is, I'm a repeating girls specialist, so all these girls choose to have many rooms with me only for club rate, without extra, without tip, my only tip is to repeat on next week. Just facts versus bullshits.
Maybe we will really meet once.[/QUOTE]Because of your English, your meanings are always vague.
"People speak too much about you" means there are jokes about you or people on forum or otherwise complaining about your posts, or do mean discussing you with girls?
Girls who read the forum mostly know who you are already, but some may be curious and actually ask other ISGers who you are. I don't know. Kelly was a reader of all forums and knew very easily who I was and also who you were. So writing gives us away.
Not many people are at all interested in your behavior with girls in the room. So no reason for you to keep mentioning that topic. And yes we know you don't write the details and no one cares. No one asks girls what you do. It is not interesting. All I know is what you told me Dina had commented about you. The funny comment.
It's what you write on the forum that is drawing criticism from me and others. You don't care right? You will keep writing seemingly paranoid stuff at times, or making allegations about other customers that seem unfounded.
You have far too much interest in customers instead of just in the girls. Also too many comments about outside the club. Do others show off about how they spending time driving a Porsche or skiing at expensive locations. No they don't. Most writers stick to just the club and the girls. I mean concentrate on girls relevant to Sharks as well.
You and I are both well known in the club at least. So even if you don't know every poster by sight, most will know who you are. We both have doubtless met other ISGers but we don't know their handles as some have kept it secret.
You have already met guys but don't always know it.
I also am a repeater of girls, with no special tips, as long as can find girls worth repeating. So what. ?Its no big deal. No one claims you are not that style.
If you have stopped attending Sharks, maybe you won't need to post in the Sharks thread so often. I am a bit bored by Sharks at the moment so am considering to stop visiting for a while and use other clubs. My frequency of posting also dropped off.
Struggling to find top girls for my spec in Sharks these days. Struggling to find many girls worth repeating. Many girls not considered due to quirks in what sort of face I like.
Bitumen makes a good point that you appear to be writing stuff to yourself, rather than what might be useful or interesting or even enyertaining to read by the other ISGers.
Got an recommendation on a girl called Melody from a guy I meet at Sharks and was stupid enough to believe it instead of following my own gut feeling. When I talked to her it felt bad already but decided to try anyway. In the room she if I wanted to stay 1 h I say prolly just 30 min. She kiss for 5 sec then went straight to BBBJ then again asked if I wanted CIM or anal. I declined all and then she sucked a little more and ask if I wanted to fuck. I wanted more BJ but it was not good so ask for condom. Fuck her for doggy while she was acting like a dead doll. Rly bad atmosphere so decided to abort in 15 min.
Moral here is not to trust anyone but yr own instincts so never again, LOL. Prolly the worst session I had ever or in a long long time. So guys do yrself a favor and avoid MELODY. Don't say I didn't warned you its 50 e down the toilet drain.
Went with the pretty girl I was looking for yesterday Kim her skin isn't perfect up close but she has a rly pretty face and good personality. Session was pretty good but I had better.
Repeat: possible.
The club is hyped the fuck up. Seriously, no real stunners. Facially girls are avg looking IMO. Given Sharks is an FKK, expected to have many with nice bodies. That is the main draw of these clubs, but seriously real total package girls are really lacking in a LU of 200 IMO.
If you got Diana as a top looker with crapshoot services, and with seceral Asian killers providing avg services, hrs and hrs of long rooms. It's that kinda club.
Not all impressed by the LU or optiks of the better service girls, yet again.
Interestingly, the 3 German provided good to great services. Sandra IMO the best looking German not couting Janine. Attractive.
Megan and Evits gained weight.
Like the food and better couches than the futons they had in the past. Pool gone couple jacuzzis.
Mai Ling seems attractive and services likely good.
Steffie is one of the prettiest? Pretty face, yes. The club needs more pretty faces.
Nastia has very slim bod, but face isn't all that attractive. I guess my expectations of pointed out optis were higher than reality.
Did many sessions though. 4/7 were good as for stats.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1968797]The club is hyped the fuck up. Seriously, no real stunners. Facially girls are avg looking IMO. Given Sharks is an FKK, expected to have many with nice bodies. That is the main draw of these clubs, but seriously real total package girls are really lacking in a LU of 200 IMO.
If you got Diana as a top looker with crapshoot services, and with seceral Asian killers providing avg services, hrs and hrs of long rooms. It's that kinda club.
Not all impressed by the LU or optiks of the better service girls, yet again.
Interestingly, the 3 German provided good to great services. Sandra IMO the best looking German not couting Janine. Attractive.
Megan and Evits gained weight.
Like the food and better couches than the futons they had in the past. Pool gone couple jacuzzis.
Mai Ling seems attractive and services likely good.
Steffie is one of the prettiest? Pretty face, yes. The club needs more pretty faces.
Nastia has very slim bod, but face isn't all that attractive. I guess my expectations of pointed out optis were higher than reality.
Did many sessions though. 4/7 were good as for stats.[/QUOTE]So LU is better at Oase or Palace than Sharks? I am talking about more stunner in Oase or Palace than Sharks?
All of us have different views and feelings for some specific girls. When I shared my subjective feelings about Dina or Cosmina, always there were guys coming to defend her. And there were usually some disagreements from forum when I expressed favorite comments on Steffi, Anja, Bianca, Lavinia, Janine, Melanie, Ariana, Scarlett, etc.
It is very normal.
I just don't know why I am the only guy to point out that Dina is actually an YMMY girl. Who cares? I don't care either. After all I stopped spending money on her since awhile ago.
If you only went with her in only a few sessions, you would be vehemently against my posts.
I think Dina has some magic tricks. She thoroughly understand men's sexual mentality. Customers might be very impressed by the first few sessions with her, thus producing a strong GF fantasy, and falling in love with her sincerely. Once in her trap, they'd like to spend large amount money on her without extricating ("Dina Addiction") and try to fawn on her, to please her, even if they were treated unfairly by Her. Dina thus considered herself as their queen and took advantage to provide simple unpleasant and below average services on them.
I was in "trap" before. I fled away after spending thousands of euros on her. It was a big blunder I made in my three years' FKK journey.
No offense.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1968741]I honestly think Anja gives a bad service due her YMMV approach as I have reported on before. I could not care less that she has left Sharks.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=CarpeViam;1968704]Anja is a YMMV girl in a sense she does not give the same favor to all customers (she is not Sandra or Megan). She can be very endearing by staying next to a client for free, but can be sarcastic by mocking a client by calling a mouse. Her service may also vary. In short, she is not yet professional enough as she loses a lot of money at the slot machine instead of trying to find customers. Hopefully she will have a lot of luck in a new place.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1968741]Seriously I do not know who this German guy is that you think I know.
I honestly think Anja gives a bad service due her YMMV approach as I have reported on before. I could not care less that she has left Sharks.[/QUOTE]She was one of the gems at Sharks and one of the best bodies. Look at the Line up now! She is badly missed. Hope she will return.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1968797]The club is hyped the fuck up. Seriously, no real stunners. Facially girls are avg looking IMO. Given Sharks is an FKK, expected to have many with nice bodies. That is the main draw of these clubs, but seriously real total package girls are really lacking in a LU of 200 IMO.
If you got Diana as a top looker with crapshoot services, and with seceral Asian killers providing avg services, hrs and hrs of long rooms. It's that kinda club.
Not all impressed by the LU or optiks of the better service girls, yet again.
Interestingly, the 3 German provided good to great services. Sandra IMO the best looking German not couting Janine. Attractive.
Megan and Evits gained weight..[/QUOTE]As long as stunner as Anja are forced out LU will continue it deteriorate.
Seems your idea of stunners is different from min if Place has several stunners for ya albeit I haven't visited in awhile.
Oase for me has more of the types of pretty face I am attracted to, but that's not the only critera in what I look for in a club. Oase is getting more difficult to find lookers with reliable services now a days.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1968796]Moral here is not to trust anyone but your own instincts.[/QUOTE]Aha. But why did you ask other guys first to recommend girls to you? Persistent lack of moral and / or instinct?
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1968934]Seems your idea of stunners is different from min if Place has several stunners for ya albeit I haven't visited in awhile.
Oase for me has more of the types of pretty face I am attracted to, but that's not the only critera in what I look for in a club. Oase is getting more difficult to find lookers with reliable services now a days.[/QUOTE]Visited Oase many times over the last weeks, got always top service from top girls what can I expect more, I consider that service is not a problem of the girls but my problem and how I am able to push the girl to give me their best. For example Sunday I was with a very sweet girl and I ask her how I can try to make her come, she told me that unfortunately for her it will take a long time but she explain smoothly what and how she likes it and for sure I needed long long time (the longest in my life) but at the end she came and it was not a fake one. She revanches to me and I got a great service but all this is not possible in a 30 minutes 50 euros session, sorry.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1968796]Got an recommendation on a girl called Melody from a guy I meet at Sharks and was stupid enough to believe it instead of following my own gut feeling. When I talked to her it felt bad already but decided to try anyway. In the room she if I wanted to stay 1 h I say prolly just 30 min. She kiss for 5 sec then went straight to BBBJ then again asked if I wanted CIM or anal. I declined all and then she sucked a little more and ask if I wanted to fuck. I wanted more BJ but it was not good so ask for condom. Fuck her for doggy while she was acting like a dead doll. Rly bad atmosphere so decided to abort in 15 min.
Moral here is not to trust anyone but yr own instincts so never again, LOL. Prolly the worst session I had ever or in a long long time. So guys do yrself a favor and avoid MELODY. Don't say I didn't warned you its 50 e down the toilet drain.
Went with the pretty girl I was looking for yesterday Kim her skin isn't perfect up close but she has a rly pretty face and good personality. Session was pretty good but I had better.
Repeat: possible.[/QUOTE]I always thought better to go to girls who attract you, to speak with them to feel if they seem friendly and it doesn't mean sex will be great, but at least it s a positive start. After, You often get from girls from your manners and behavior with them.
Seems more efficient for me than just being a follower.
Girls also don t behave the same with all of us and we also don t look for same sex.
From my experiences: I was said many times good things about Mandy, I m sure she is nice behavior, it s written on her face when she smiles, but I never had a spark when I look at her, maybe when I will return, when I will be allowed to drive again in Germany. I didn't crash anybody of course, nor alcohol, nor drug, not good for sport, but no Germany without car. Switzerland wait for me and have to return to NL. December is also Russian escorts month in Paris. Hanna and Viktoria AMR will make me wait, starting tonight after work.
With a little experience about women, when you speak with a girl, when You look at the way she looks at you, you can see if You are only one more money / dick, or if she really looks at you, then you decide to take risk or not.
For me, always better to make own way yourself. I only followed Syzy advice for Agnes, because I was not attracted by her closed face, but he was right, she was great, real woman with beautiful eyes and smile. But usually, I don t need others to find my girls and I may improve because I find more and more high level girls, at GT, LR, World was not bad at night for my last visit and excellent Globe of course. Have also to try Bumsalp, Aphrodisia and History, with my saved 40 Ibis budget nights. I will not even be able to pay the entry.
Go your own way, don t listen or care about others. Each one his game.
[QUOTE=NickTheG;1968951]Aha. But why did you ask other guys first to recommend girls to you? Persistent lack of moral and / or instinct?[/QUOTE]I didn't ask for any recommendations especially from people I don't know that well but he kept pestering me about how good she is. My mistake was to blv him instead of following the vibe I got from the girl.
Just trying to save people 50 e plus an awful experience here that's what this forum is suppose to be rite. Even though I fell into a death trap I still want the best for my fellow padawans, LOL.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1968970]I didn't ask for any recommendations especially from people I don't know that well but he kept pestering me about how good she is. My mistake was to blv him instead of following the vibe I got from the girl.
Just trying to save people 50 e plus an awful experience here that's what this forum is suppose to be rite. Even though I fell into a death trap I still want the best for my fellow padawans, LOL.[/QUOTE]That is why I never report about the girls and I never look after any report, I just follow my feelings and it is quite successful for the moment.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1968970]I didn't ask for any recommendations especially from people I don't know that well but he kept pestering me about how good she is. My mistake was to blv him instead of following the vibe I got from the girl.[/QUOTE]Even at Puff you should still listen to your mothers advice "don't take anything from strangers". LOL.
BTW sessions like your Melody one still happens as jedi master.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1968975]Even at Puff you should still listen to your mothers advice "don't take anything from strangers". LOL.
BTW sessions like your Melody one still happens as jedi master.[/QUOTE]Well obviously he's not a complete stranger as I have seen him at the club many times before and seems like a good guy.
This padawan broke the jedi code and paid the consequences, LOL.
Nothing ruins my day more than losing money and bad sessions.
Uummm, you are quoting about Anja but talking about Dina. Are you saying Anja is actually Dina?
If it helps with your feelings, I agree with you that somehow Dina has an ability for the first and maybe several subsequent visits for her to ensnare a man into her web to the pint that he has fallen for her but then once she has he man intoxicated that she will take advantage of them.
One man I know said that after 4 sessions with Dina that it become an expectation of Dina that he had to go with her and he would be black balled if he did not continue to go with her as his first choice. For example, for me I thought that Dina was fabulous in the room but on the next visit I found her restrictive in what she allowed such as DATY saying she was not wanting some things to happen in the room. There was the restriction of services but still the feeling that you had to book her and she was the epitome of what men are seeking in the club and that the other girls implying the Romanians were not as good.
As a suggestion the fact no one else is writing about Dina does not mean to pick up on the quotes from some unrelated girls' quotes from guys you have a thing about. It loses impact and also can be confusing for some readers of the forum.
No offense.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1968833]All of us have different views and feelings for some specific girls. When I shared my subjective feelings about Dina or Cosmina, always there were guys coming to defend her. And there were usually some disagreements from forum when I expressed favorite comments on Steffi, Anja, Bianca, Lavinia, Janine, Melanie, Ariana, Scarlett, etc.
It is very normal.
I just don't know why I am the only guy to point out that Dina is actually an YMMY girl. Who cares? I don't care either. After all I stopped spending money on her since awhile ago.
If you only went with her in only a few sessions, you would be vehemently against my posts.
I think Dina has some magic tricks. She thoroughly understand men's sexual mentality. Customers might be very impressed by the first few sessions with her, thus producing a strong GF fantasy, and falling in love with her sincerely. Once in her trap, they'd like to spend large amount money on her without extricating ("Dina Addiction") and try to fawn on her, to please her, even if they were treated unfairly by Her. Dina thus considered herself as their queen and took advantage to provide simple unpleasant and below average services on them.
I was in "trap" before. I fled away after spending thousands of euros on her. It was a big blunder I made in my three years' FKK journey.
No offense.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1968991]Uummm, you are quoting about Anja but talking about Dina. Are you saying Anja is actually Dina?
As a suggestion the fact no one else is writing about Dina does not mean to pick up on the quotes from some unrelated girls' quotes from guys you have a thing about. It loses impact and also can be confusing for some readers of the forum.
No offense.[/QUOTE]The reason I quote your comment in my post was that I didn't agree with your comment "Anja is a YMMV girl". I just want to point out that Dina is actually the real YMMV girl. Please read the context. No one would be confused.
Dina and magic tricks? She didn't use them on me. Been with her twice or so, it's an okay session, that's it. No magic.
HB.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1968833]I was in "trap" before. I fled away after spending thousands of euros on her. It was a big blunder I made in my three years' FKK journey...[/QUOTE]I know what you mean, but the key mentality to mongering is that you have to make sure the money you spent doesn't mean much to you. Everyone has different spending limits, don't spend more than your limit with a girl and it won't feel as bad. If you spend more than your limit it puts a mind set on yourself to want the girl to show you more gratitude. But at the end of the day they are just prostitutes and it's their job, and they are just trying to get as much from you as they can.
You'll never win her heart with money. There is no winning when it comes to mongering. The same kind of mentality can be applied to gambling, the more people lose the more they want to win it back, but there isn't anything to win back, the house always wins. Just spend the money you don't give a shit about and the girl won't mean much to you. Be positive and try to keep perspective.
Good luck and monger on!
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1969034]I know what you mean, but the key mentality to mongering is that you have to make sure the money you spent doesn't mean much to you. Everyone has different spending limits, don't spend more than your limit with a girl and it won't feel as bad. If you spend more than your limit it puts a mind set on yourself to want the girl to show you more gratitude. But at the end of the day they are just prostitutes and it's their job, and they are just trying to get as much from you as they can.
You'll never win her heart with money. There is no winning when it comes to mongering. The same kind of mentality can be applied to gambling, the more people lose the more they want to win it back, but there isn't anything to win back, the house always wins. Just spend the money you don't give a shit about and the girl won't mean much to you. Be positive and try to keep perspective.
Good luck and monger on![/QUOTE]Good and wise advice given. If I can (but I cannot right now) I would like to post your report to the Reports of Distinction.
My gratititude to AznHotBoy. You have wisdom and you have shared it to those who need it.
I know what you meant, but you didn't get my point about Dina.
Mongering FKK is like renting a car. You don't want to own the car.
Let us assume you go to Sixt and would like to pay more money to rent a BMW. Sixt gave you a car and claimed it a BMW. The car's performance was good initially, however after a first few kilometers, it abruptly downgraded to Ford level. Then what did you feel? Should I mock you that you should make sure you spending limit and should not rent a BMW, or claim you would never own the BMW with just money only?
We all know it is not the matter of money, but YMMV.
I just want to share information here and make a fun. Three grand is trivia to me. No complaints. Have fun and see you someday in Sharks.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1969034]I know what you mean, but the key mentality to mongering is that you have to make sure the money you spent doesn't mean much to you. Everyone has different spending limits, don't spend more than your limit with a girl and it won't feel as bad. If you spend more than your limit it puts a mind set on yourself to want the girl to show you more gratitude. But at the end of the day they are just prostitutes and it's their job, and they are just trying to get as much from you as they can.
You'll never win her heart with money. There is no winning when it comes to mongering. The same kind of mentality can be applied to gambling, the more people lose the more they want to win it back, but there isn't anything to win back, the house always wins. Just spend the money you don't give a shit about and the girl won't mean much to you. Be positive and try to keep perspective.
Good luck and monger on![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1969115]My gratititude to AznHotBoy. You have wisdom and you have shared it to those who need it.[/QUOTE]Haha thanks for appreciation! Mongering should be an escape / hobby. It should be relaxing and stress reducing and not bring on more problems. I hope people can have a great time and enjoy their real life success with some paid sexual entertainment. Just don't get too attached and if you do then maybe mongering isn't right for you, to each their own! Keep it fun!
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1968934]Seems your idea of stunners is different from min if Place has several stunners for ya albeit I haven't visited in awhile.
Oase for me has more of the types of pretty face I am attracted to, but that's not the only critera in what I look for in a club. Oase is getting more difficult to find lookers with reliable services now a days.[/QUOTE]Anja is not a stunner for you?
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1968833]All of us have different views and feelings for some specific girls.
I think Dina has some magic tricks. She thoroughly understand men's sexual mentality. Customers might be very impressed by the first few sessions with her, thus producing a strong GF fantasy, and falling in love with her sincerely. Once in her trap, they'd like to spend large amount money on her without extricating ("Dina Addiction") and try to fawn on her, to please her, even if they were treated unfairly by Her. Dina thus considered herself as their queen and took advantage to provide simple unpleasant and below average services on them.
I was in "trap" before. I fled away after spending thousands of euros on her. It was a big blunder I made in my three years' FKK journey.
No offense.[/QUOTE]For me, she is one of the prettiest at Sharks, with a bit of elegance when her eyes are not too "tired" , I don't agree with bullshits about her services, but I didn't feel a high sexual or sensual level, for my room with her in February 2014. Maybe she improved? Only once for me, 100.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1969034]I know what you mean, but the key mentality to mongering is that you have to make sure the money you spent doesn't mean much to you. Everyone has different spending limits, don't spend more than your limit with a girl and it won't feel as bad. If you spend more than your limit it puts a mind set on yourself to want the girl to show you more gratitude. But at the end of the day they are just prostitutes and it's their job, and they are just trying to get as much from you as they can.
You'll never win her heart with money. There is no winning when it comes to mongering. The same kind of mentality can be applied to gambling, the more people lose the more they want to win it back, but there isn't anything to win back, the house always wins. Just spend the money you don't give a shit about and the girl won't mean much to you. Be positive and try to keep perspective.
Good luck and monger on![/QUOTE]Dina is one peculiar bird. I think she needs to be in control and likes toying with guys. She blows hot and cold. Sometimes she is good and other times she is bad. I remember a session which started good and she asked if I wanted to stay for an hour, (this was after 15 minutes) I agreed. Then she started restricting her services. All of a sudden BBBJ was no longer available. I told her to cut the session to 30 minutes. She relented, service improved and I finished the session at the hour mark. Very, very, odd. It is pretty sad. She could be a superstar. I would be willing to spend more, but she is too unreliable.
The LU was very not good sure there were some pretty ones but I've been with most of them and I don't feel like repeating again that soon. Much more quiet than yesterday so potentially it could be a good day to session with top girls problem was that none of my faves showed up.
Saw Birgitte from my last trip and later when she takes her walk she comes over to say Hello,. Did some catching up and then went to the room. The kissing was not as good as I rmb but still ok.
She's a nice girl easy to talk to so I could repeat but not in a hurry.
Eat, drink, eat and then sat for a couple of hrs waiting for the rite girl. Later Angela went over after some hunting. Pretty face, tits not that good but still acceptable. The session was ok but again not in a hurry to repeat guess the chemistry between us was not that good.
Lastly I session with Steffie again I really like her face but she doesn't do much kissing so I was very dissapointed, LOL.
A turkish (gang member?) got knocked down by another gang around 2 am. The guys left and later I was told that there were alot of polizei outside. A girl tells me that this happens every week. Guess Sharks is more dangerous than I imagined.
BTW a lot of wait for drinks unlike GT / LR where girls can get their own drinks and even serve customers. Some of the girls working at the bar totally ignores you sometimes.
again Evita n Cosmina busy with their asian guy but when that guy disappered they suddenly didnt look that hot anymore, had to take a walk around and even session with turkish guys for 50 e, LOL.
Know we have talked about tourists ruining the service but we forgot to mention the turkish guys. there are alot of them at night and most of these prolly only wants bbbj and fuck
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1968796]
Moral here is not to trust anyone but yr own instincts so never again, LOL. Prolly the worst session I had ever or in a long long time. So guys do yrself a favor and avoid MELODY. Don't say I didn't warned you its 50 e down the toilet drain.
[/QUOTE]To get good advice from customers, you need to know the guys well, and exactly what they like.
I only tried Pamela (a past girl), due to very strong recommendations from two very experienced buddies who had been in Sharks many times. Pamela was my spec exactly for the face but thighs a bit thick. She turned out to be really the absolute best Sharks girl. A dream woman in the room. Never regretted the advice of J and J for a minute. Some others they recommended were never tried as girl had wrong looks for me.
The other situation, is when you have spotted a girl, and are a bit undecided about her. Getting a tip from reliable person about how she has been for several customers can make the difference between deciding go or no go. Alternatively you have spotted three girls all to your spec. Which one to choose. Other opinions on the service can help decide the priority sequence.
I don't like to believe any single guy, unless I know his opinion is likely to be reliable. I am almost always choosing girls that fit my specs anyway. Occasionally relax my specs criteria slightly.
Steffie is pretty friendly and interaction with her isn't the fuck factory typical. Likely the draw for most guys that run into her. The pretty face helps.
[QUOTE=MrHo;1968820]So LU is better at Oase or Palace than Sharks? I am talking about more stunner in Oase or Palace than Sharks?[/QUOTE]Actually yes. Oase has more girls with a very pretty face. Some will complain its the same girls as two years ago, but they are just as pretty as two years ago. Some with great service too (in an hour booking always for me). Some new good looking girls as well. There are known girls with great service. There are unknown girls.
Sharks has a large line up, lots of excellent bodies, yet can still take hours to find a girl that is exciting enough when comes to a pretty face. However one should note that I am very picky liking small face and small nose. Girls that others find very pretty, are not my spec.
I do think there are some pretty girls at Sharks. Nastia, Cosmina, Janine, Ruby, Sascha, Lana, Roxana, etc. Are my types. Very few of those are repeats for me though. Unfortunately Helli, Eliss, Beatrice, Sena were not in attendance on my visits.
[QUOTE=Akibono;1969192]Dina is one peculiar bird. I think she needs to be in control and likes toying with guys. She blows hot and cold. Sometimes she is good and other times she is bad...[/QUOTE]This is all true and a fair warning to all. She is a wild bird, but I think she's got her ways on how to handle a few guys and it's probably working better than most girls.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1969132]Let us assume you go to Sixt and would like to pay more money to rent a BMW. Sixt gave you a car and claimed it a BMW. The car's performance was good initially, however after a first few kilometers, it abruptly downgraded to Ford level. Then what did you feel? Should I mock you that you should make sure you spending limit and should not rent a BMW, or claim you would never own the BMW with just money only?
We all know it is not the matter of money, but YMMV.
I just want to share information here and make a fun. Three grand is trivia to me. No complaints. Have fun and see you someday in Sharks.[/QUOTE]Except this BWM got "magic tricks" to "trap" the renter into paying 3 grand for it's shitty performance. LOL. Then it makes you wonder, maybe this BMW is pretty special after all.
Also is becoming a Ford level a bad thing? Ford GT40 and GT 1st Gen are all cars that appreciate in value with multiple historical winning titles. Also the 2016 Shelby GT350 R is better than the 2016 BMW M4 GTS in multiple categories. Then there is also the 2nd Gen Ford GT which is all sold out before release. So I think you meant that this car actually "upgrade" itself to a Ford after a "first few kilometers."
Not trying to "mock" you, but how can I trust a Dina review from a monger that only spent 3 grand on Dina? Is that like only 15 minutes worth of Dina's time? I'm surprised she even looked at you for that little trivial amount.
Steffi one of the best looking girls at Sharks. But does anyone got real DFK from her? Dina from optic my type but her princess behavior get on my nerves, so last session with her more than two years ago. Body of Pamela a little too corpulent, service quite good included even free RJ but wasn't the smartest one.
I can't see any big difference in general of LU and average service level between Oase and Sharks. And this was at average more or less always so the last two years and is still the same sometimes I have favs at Oase and sometimes at Sharks. Never saw which was / is the better club. This hype of Sharks I have never understand and same this downgrading of Oase or other clubs over the last two years.
And if I don't like things of a club so what? Too many good options around Frankfurt that this really bothers me.
Visited Sharks recently. I noticed a lot of women working. In fact, ladies were complaining that too many women were working and they don't get enough business, except for just a few popular ones. Had sessions with Dina and Nicolette (HU), Iris, Ella, and Dora (RO), and Jolene (LI / RO). Dina and Nicolette are sisters. Dina, being an old one, was more skilled in terms of interaction. Nicolette was much more passive. Iris, Ella, and Dora were all very sweet. Jolene was wild (and too much teeth during BBBJ). Food was great, and the facility was large and clean. There was an area for taking a nap in upstairs also. One of the best facilities I have visited. Staff told me they offer discounted entry on Sunday (before 2 PM) and Wednesday, and offer a discount coupon for Monday / Tuesday next visit if you visit those days. They also told me that they serve crepes on Sundays. I bet that's very popular among the ladies. A fantastic day at a fantastic club.
Dina and Nicoletta are not sisters. They maybe use it as their sales pitch, but they are not.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1969271]Dina and Nicoletta are not sisters. They maybe use it as their sales pitch, but they are not.
HB.[/QUOTE]Business sisters. Dina is not my regular, but for my respect for her, I wish she would never take her real blood sister to be fucked all day in a brothel, I also wish she drives Nicoletta for free. Better to make money from our work than stealing others.
No more fresh Mersi. Hu? We couldn't speak much, because she doesn't speak English, but I really appreciate she said she comes from a small Hungarian city, not from the wonderful Budapest where girls can get a job.
Same about Romanians claiming to come from Bucharest, Constanza or Cluj, can get a job in these towns.
I remember Kate saying after less than 2 minutes couch chatting, she comes from Moldavian part of Romania, and life is difficult about money there, why she had to make so big sacrifice in her life, when we spoke about him in room between our 2 rounds, she was crying and looking at me kissing her tears. 2 months and half later at Globe, she remembered everything about what happened.
Same sacrifice for Ariana not anymore at Sharks.
Moldavian part of Romania is so huge, from Spain and Italy to Russia and Kazakhstan.
But claimed businessmen can compete with WGs for lies.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1969202]Again Evita n Cosmina...., had to take a walk around and even session with turkish guys for 50 e, LOL. [/QUOTE]I guess somebody has to do it. Democracy power of the euro note.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1969247]Steffi one of the best looking girls at Sharks. But does anyone got real DFK from her?
Dina from optic my type but her princess behavior get on my nerves, so last session with her more than two years ago. Body of Pamela a little too corpulent, service quite good included even free RJ but wasn't the smartest one..[/QUOTE]I need to check out who Steffi is. I cannot picture which of the over 200 girls she is.
Dina hu, she gives free rimjob? I would have definitely kept Dina on the repeat list if she gave rimjob service. So bad she does not.
Very curious. Because I did not see that they hunt Turkish last night and went for 30 minutes. Are they the same duo?
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1969202]again Evita n Cosmina busy with their asian guy but when that guy disappered they suddenly didnt look that hot anymore, had to take a walk around and even session with turkish guys for 50 e, LOL...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Checkers1;1969145]Anja is not a stunner for you?[/QUOTE]Beautiful body, tits, blue eyes and smile, but lack of care for skin and teeth, face is not exceptional like for Nastia, she is not shining like some girls when they smile with beautiful teeth, and really bad tattoo for Anja. Doggy is impossible for me, looking at her tattoo, thinking about Hells. Girl type from deep country, not sophisticated, but really friendly in room, she was a really good surprise for my challenge to go with a girl who was bullshit about me before she knows me. In room, when she feels good, she wants to play with You, her favorite game is to bite your hands, arms, nose, tongue, I had to stop her because I hate this, I was always used to sweet kissing women. Her other game is to give nickname, mousy for me, no problem for me when she asked another French about her mousy. Other game is to compare size, so I answered: not so big, she answered: I know better than You, I see more than you, You are not Asian. But good vagina potential, she seems used to sporty sex.
For my claimed friend Bitumen, she went with everybody for only 50 , she proposed CIM but never insist with me, because she was not full business at all, even before Summer, I think because of her behavior around the bar and her lack of sweetness and sensuality in room. But a really friendly girl who worth my 2 1 hour rooms with her, but not a third because I prefer more sweetness like at home. She was disappointed I didn't finish for our first room, I explained her it was not important for me, she was a good surprise, so she asked me to repeat. Each time she saw me, she came, I promised so we repeated even I was not in hurry, second room was better than first, no bite, more kissing, but like Megan, she knew what I would have to do. Bad sports which kill your body, but as long I will stand up, I will keep on.
I don t think she is yet at Globe, I don t think she has the behavior for Globe, Globe is not Sharks. Maybe she could make business if she really provides public sex, but only one guy claimed to get with her at Sharks. Some guys seem to enjoy being seen, being sucked or fucking a piece of meat, at Globe.
But I would be happy to chat about Sharks with her. I also wait to chat with Raοssa World even I don t plan to go for her.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1969299]
Dina hu, she gives free rimjob? I would have definitely kept Dina on the repeat list if she gave rimjob service. So bad she does not.[/QUOTE]Nope is wishfull thinking of you. Read again the free included RJ was from Pamela.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1969322]Nope is wishfull thinking of you. Read again the free included RJ was from Pamela.[/QUOTE]Oh I see. I read it and then re-read it and then re-read it again. I did think at one stage these were two different references. One for Dina and one for Pamela but then we have not been talking about Pamela at all recently apart from one comment of Master Szygies, just Steffi and Dina. Based on that I then decided that you were comparing the body of Dina having the same corpulent body as Pamela had which to me makes sense as they both do, then with the added comment on rimjob and the other comment made sense in context.
Maybe breaking out the girl reference notes into separate paragraphs would make it clearer for me.
Thank you as ever for your report Mr Craiova.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1969202]Lastly I session with Steffie again I really like her face but she doesn't do much kissing so I was very dissapointed, LOL.
A turkish (gang member?) got knocked down by another gang around 2 am. The guys left and later I was told that there were alot of polizei outside. A girl tells me that this happens every week. Guess Sharks is more dangerous than I imagined.
again Evita n Cosmina busy with their asian guy but when that guy disappered they suddenly didnt look that hot anymore, had to take a walk around and even session with turkish guys for 50 e, LOL.
Know we have talked about tourists ruining the service but we forgot to mention the turkish guys. there are alot of them at night and most of these prolly only wants bbbj and fuck[/QUOTE]Steffi could have been a star with real GFE behavior, but I respect and she was friendly before and in room. She was lucky not to become my weekly regular if she sweetly kisses.
For same girls, different rates for guys, Turkish will never accept upselling, they want sex for 30 like in AO. That's why some girls are specialized in easy for size, high rate for upselling, Asian business, they are just clever about this. I advised Ariana who was not busy on March, to go into, then she changed of behavior.
Girls never ask me, they just take money I give them, Cosmina did after our room on February 2014 , when I tried all pretty girls for my Sharks discovery, she was not blond at this time. No one never went to desk.
December will be Russian escorts rates because Christmas presents arrived in Paris. Less kilometers, more money, before Switzerland closer to ski.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1969202]The LU was very not good sure there were some pretty ones but I've been with most of them and I don't feel like repeating again that soon. Much more quiet than yesterday so potentially it could be a good day to session with top girls problem was that none of my faves showed up.
BTW a lot of wait for drinks unlike GT / LR where girls can get their own drinks and even serve customers. Some of the girls working at the bar totally ignores you sometimes.
again Evita n Cosmina busy with their asian guy but when that guy disappered they suddenly didnt look that hot anymore, had to take a walk around and even session with turkish guys for 50 e, LOL. [/QUOTE]I had the same impression. Most of the well known girls were missing on Thursday. That was rather disappointing for me too. Of course Thursday is a much quieter day than Wednesday. What I liked were the Sauna sessions with a guy from "Genuss-Aufguss". When I came to the club at around 5 pm, the club was looking pretty empty. That gradually changed after 8 pm and after 11 pm it became significantly more crowded with lots of turkish guys coming.
I find Evita not so sexy looking anymore, don't know what has changed.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1969271]Dina and Nicoletta are not sisters. They maybe use it as their sales pitch, but they are not.
HB.[/QUOTE]If Dina and Nicoletta were not sisters or half-sisters, then do you think Dina was a female pimp or boss for Nicoletta? Or they both were controlled by a pimp? If it was true, it would really terrify me.
Although Nicoletta is not my fav, we only went to room a couple of times, I still wish she would have good life in the future and keep most of money she earned from the hardship she suffered.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1969246]Not trying to "mock" you, but how can I trust a Dina review from a monger that only spent 3 grand on Dina? Is that like only 15 minutes worth of Dina's time? I'm surprised she even looked at you for that little trivial amount.[/QUOTE]Well, 3 grand is trivial to me or most regular mongers, but it is about 30 hours worth of Dina's time. Did Dina charge you 12000 an hour rate? If it is case, too bad. Otherwise I could not figure out why her "15 minutes" worth 3000.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1969436]Well, 3 grand is trivial to me or most regular mongers, but it is about 30 hours worth of Dina's time. Did Dina charge you 12000 an hour rate? If it is case, too bad. Otherwise I could not figure out why her "15 minutes" worth 3000.[/QUOTE]Of course not, she is friendly enough to to me to give me the Dina VIP discount. I only pay 30000 a day for her! She is so nice!
I had one session with Steffi, and she is a nice sweet girl, but I can't agree that she is a top looker at Sharks. She has a good body, face is pleasant, although in my recent visit, she covered up her body most of the time, which is a shame. Not sure why she was doing it, or if she grew any fat. Don't think she did. I would rank her clearly well below my top lookers (Janine, Evita, Nelli, Tatiana, etc). That doesn't mean these top lookers are the best service providers, which they are not. I love Tatiana of course, but Evita is almost exclusive to Asians now, and Janine we all know. Anyway, my 2 cents.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1969328]Based on that I then decided that you were comparing the body of Dina having the same corpulent body as Pamela had which to me makes sense as they both do, ....[/QUOTE]I don't see any reason to compare Dina and the former Pamela. It seems a little incongruous.
Looks, service style and fun levels were very different. Chalk and Cheese we might say. I think Dina has now outgrown Pamela as well for thigh size.
The important thing was that Pamela was sweet and very consistent, always trying to please. I really liked her face a lot. Never had better for my style of session.
New paragraph. LOL
I did not really rate Dina that highly for face, body, GFE, illusion or fun service. I guess good tits yes. No reason to repeat at all. Her friend Elli also gave me no reason to repeat. Perhaps neither of them liked me at all. Also obviously I like slimmer in body and face ideally.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1969492]Of course not, she is friendly enough to to me to give me the Dina VIP discount. I only pay 30000 a day for her! She is so nice![/QUOTE]No idea what were you talking about. Anyone could figure out what did Mr Aznhotboy said?
In Germany, we use Euro. Are you Japanese? I figure out that Your unit of currency is the yen. That could explain your misunderstanding of my posts. LOL.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1969407]If Dina and Nicoletta were not sisters or half-sisters, then do you think Dina was a female pimp or boss for Nicoletta? Or they both were controlled by a pimp? If it was true, it would really terrify me.
[/QUOTE]Don't know, don't care. Why can't they just be friends?
HB.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1969498]I had one session with Steffi, and she is a nice sweet girl, but I can't agree that she is a top looker at Sharks. She has a good body, face is pleasant, although in my recent visit, she covered up her body most of the time, which is a shame. Not sure why she was doing it, or if she grew any fat. Don't think she did. I would rank her clearly well below my top lookers (Janine, Evita, Nelli, Tatiana, etc). That doesn't mean these top lookers are the best service providers, which they are not. I love Tatiana of course, but Evita is almost exclusive to Asians now, and Janine we all know. Anyway, my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Steffi is not a top looker at Sharks. She is sweet and has a nice smile, pretty face. She has potential so well if her services improves. Perhaps even become the next Asian killer and do long rooms if she upscales her services.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1969407]If Dina and Nicoletta were not sisters or half-sisters, then do you think Dina was a female pimp or boss for Nicoletta? Or they both were controlled by a pimp? If it was true, it would really terrify me.
Although Nicoletta is not my fav, we only went to room a couple of times, I still wish she would have good life in the future and keep most of money she earned from the hardship she suffered.[/QUOTE]Don't be terrified you will never get the truth, FKK is a special world were the girls and we the mongers are cheating, lets keep it like this.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1969704]Steffi is not a top looker at Sharks. She is sweet and has a nice smile, pretty face. She has potential so well if her services improves. Perhaps even become the next Asian killer and do long rooms if she upscales her services.[/QUOTE]Your tastes PL, not mine. Steffi. Ro is kind of look I like: pretty face, shy smile when she smiles, natural slim body, white skin, no tattoo, a real miracle, just pleasure for my eyes compare to truck driver Sena look, even she is smiling and seems friendly. Even I didn t repeat, not because of her, she was honest and has sweet behavior, but too frustrating room without kisses. I repeated with Anja but Anja doesn't have much sweetness inside of her, more a playful girl. One of my regret at Sharks, is Steffi, she was my regular girls type, with classier behavior for me than Janine or many others, and not many attractive girls since a while. Fortunately, many, elsewhere.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1969407]If Dina and Nicoletta were not sisters or half-sisters, then do you think Dina was a female pimp or boss for Nicoletta? Or they both were controlled by a pimp? If it was true, it would really terrify me.
Although Nicoletta is not my fav, we only went to room a couple of times, I still wish she would have good life in the future and keep most of money she earned from the hardship she suffered.[/QUOTE]I wish, with her beauty, Dina can make her own money, with her own room, and she is only a taxi driver for free.
For those who knew her, Elektra. Hu who left GT, asked 50 per day to another Hungarian girl, she gave GT address and made her start. A real shame. I'm afraid my past Romanian Medusa has also to pay her "friend" even they know each other since they were children in deep Romania.
Friend don't seem to have same meaning in this bad business, some girls steal others, some girls pimp other girls, not only guys pimp. Not the best place to find real friends.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1969602]I did not really rate Dina that highly for face, body, GFE, illusion or fun service. I guess good tits yes. No reason to repeat at all. Her friend Elli also gave me no reason to repeat. Perhaps neither of them liked me at all. Also obviously I like slimmer in body and face ideally.[/QUOTE]Different people have different tastes sir. To me I like everything about Dina. But I agree Dina and Elli dislike you with same reason mentioned above that all of girls (not only Dina, all of girls!) have each tastes about men. From my experience at Sharks I also got poor session with Bianca, I guess she also dislikes me. But, I never blame her. I should see through how she feel likes about me before the session.
You know if you're thought to be good one by Dina, she asks do you want me to tell you cellphone number?'It happened to me very 1st time session.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1969620]No idea what were you talking about. Anyone could figure out what did Mr Aznhotboy said?
In Germany, we use Euro. Are you Japanese? I figure out that Your unit of currency is the yen. That could explain your misunderstanding of my posts. LOL.[/QUOTE]There is no misunderstanding Mr JohnEllee. Tell me more about the unit of currency being used in the place called Germany. This Europe thing you say. Can I use that in FKK?
[QUOTE=GothFkk;1969743]You know if you're thought to be good one by Dina, she asks do you want me to tell you cellphone number?'It happened to me very 1st time session.[/QUOTE]Yes this is true. For a girl's number, I always ask them on the last sessions, it's for me to text them if they are working when I come back a few months later. I was surprised when Dina wanted to tell me her number on the 1st time. I told her I'm not a regular and she didn't care. LOL.
Very slow day at Sharks didn't see the 200 girls I was expecting to see, LOL. Well perhaps the girls went to Oase to make some quick money. The LU on Wednesday was better and I was struggling to find a girl to session with. After I while I finally went with Erica. She seemed easier to talk to than the last time I meet her and she told me today was her last day (not sure if its true).
Later went with Kim again but this time around the session was a bit rushed maybe bc it was too late.
Talk to a local german just before I left around 3 am he told me that he was not happy with the service level at Sharks lately and will not be back (going to a smaller club 20 min by car from Sharks).
The tourists doing several hrs sessions are def spoiling the girls while the turkish guys only want suck and fuck.
Time to make Sharks great again, hehe.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1969927]Talk to a local german he told me that he was not happy with the service level at Sharks lately and will not be back (going to a smaller club 20 min by car from Sharks).[/QUOTE]The tourist must be referring to FKK 40 in Dietzenbach or FKK Rom.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1969738]I wish, with her beauty, Dina can make her own money, with her own room, and she is only a taxi driver for free.
[/QUOTE]Some girls I have not met in the past that got my attention over visits were, steffi, Melody, Esther, Tatiana, Enya, Sandra, Mei Ling, Nicoletta.
Tatiana and Esther's services were weak. Good personalities though.
Heard Milana gives good services, but would not have know by look. Facially, she looks a bit aggressive IMO. Would be considered a hottie though.
Sandra wasn't a service star for me although her BBBJ is real good. Sandy and Mandy were great providers. Highly recommended.
I wouldn't consider Mandy's strong suit is optic, but def a service star for sure. Sandy is more of a petite cute type.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1969927]Very slow day at Sharks didn't see the 200 girls I was expecting to see, LOL. Well perhaps the girls went to Oase to make some quick money. The LU on Wednesday was better and I was struggling to find a girl to session with. After I while I finally went with Erica. She seemed easier to talk to than the last time I meet her and she told me today was her last day (not sure if its true).
Later went with Kim again but this time around the session was a bit rushed maybe bc it was too late.
Talk to a local german just before I left around 3 am he told me that he was not happy with the service level at Sharks lately and will not be back (going to a smaller club 20 min by car from Sharks).
The tourists doing several hrs sessions are def spoiling the girls while the turkish guys only want suck and fuck.
Time to make Sharks great again, hehe.[/QUOTE]As already shared with you several weeks back, for many German guys Shark is over rated and they are moving to other places like Oase, World. I am half German and I don't like to fight for a girl like we have to do it at Shark, sometimes the ration man to woman is very bad so why not going to other places where it is more relax.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1969602]I don't see any reason to compare Dina and the former Pamela. It seems a little incongruous.
Looks, service style and fun levels were very different. Chalk and Cheese we might say. I think Dina has now outgrown Pamela as well for thigh size.
The important thing was that Pamela was sweet and very consistent, always trying to please. I really liked her face a lot. Never had better for my style of session.
New paragraph. LOL
I did not really rate Dina that highly for face, body, GFE, illusion or fun service. I guess good tits yes. No reason to repeat at all. Her friend Elli also gave me no reason to repeat. Perhaps neither of them liked me at all. Also obviously I like slimmer in body and face ideally.[/QUOTE]I would not rate Dina all that highly for total package either. Face is one of the prettier ones at Sharks IMO. Body, not much so. Didn't get a good look this time, but in the past body was pretth plain. A bit thicker at the bottom and thicker legs.
Likely, she is a smart pro, and this works on some folks. There are several of those types at Sharks. Probably the Asian killers.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1969941]Some girls I have not met in the past that got my attention over visits were, steffi, Melody, Esther, Tatiana, Enya, Sandra, Mei Ling, Nicoletta.
[/QUOTE]Add Bianka.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1969932]The tourist must be referring to FKK 40 in Dietzenbach or FKK Rom.[/QUOTE]It was a local not a tourist making that statement. He probably meant Rom, yes.
HB.
Was at Sharks earlier this week. I echo the comments about the line up not being that strong though there were a few good lookers around but not that many. Had two sessions during my visit. First one was with Diana from Romania. Cute slim blonde. Ok session. Soft attempt at anal upsell with me but wasn't too interested as I preferred them nice and tight but Diana's butt has been around the circuit a bit and I'll probably wouldn't feel anything.
Second session was with Adriana from Germany. Said she was of Italian ancestry. Amazing jugs. Natural D cups and really pretty face. Session in the room was pretty terrible. She kept on wrapping her fingers around my cock when I was pumping. Kind of annoying as I couldn't get any deep penetration going. The session was reminiscent to the one I had with Leya / Brandy / Brenda from a while back. Big tits but limited penetration. Not going to repeat with Adriana but will give Leya / Brandy / Brenda another try when she is back as she is one hot looker.
Wanted to repeat with Yvette and Mischa, both from Romania but couldn't see them during the rest of the evening. Seems like Janine has put on some weight.
Will be back to Sharks soon to check out Mandy and Dina. Can anyone assist with where they normally sit; how they look or anything that can help me spot them right away?
Thanks. Howie.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1969927]
The tourists doing several hrs sessions are def spoiling the girls while the turkish guys only want suck and fuck.
[/QUOTE]As said before, it's not so much the long sessions. It's accepting low service levels and paying more than standard price.
HB.
[QUOTE=Howie;1970004]Will be back to Sharks soon to check out Mandy and Dina. Can anyone assist with where they normally sit; how they look or anything that can help me spot them right away?[/QUOTE]Mandy doesn't do much sitting she usually get picked up right away. From experience you should wait by the money lockers for her. She is a blond German girl and probably have a line waiting for her when she is there.
Dina sits right by the bar entrance facing the main entrance. It gives her a clear view on who is coming into the club. She can be busy at times but you'll have better luck picking her up than Mandy.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1969943]As already shared with you several weeks back, for many German guys Shark is over rated and they are moving to other places like Oase, World. I am half German and I don't like to fight for a girl like we have to do it at Shark, sometimes the ration man to woman is very bad so why not going to other places where it is more relax.[/QUOTE]Yeah me either esp the few ones that get booked constantly e. G. Milana.
She was rarely in the lounge always some guys booking her for a few hrs.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1970005]As said before, it's not so much the long sessions. It's accepting low service levels and paying more than standard price.
HB.[/QUOTE]Guess you are rite since there are only a few girls that get long sessions.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1970017]Yeah me either esp the few ones that get booked constantly e. G. Milana.
She was rarely in the lounge always some guys booking her for a few hrs.
Guess you are rite since there are only a few girls that get long sessions.[/QUOTE]Serbian brunette Milana? Not so busy when I saw her, not attracted by her face.
Aylice. Bu was booked for several days in the club, but high level little Bulgarian princess.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1969738]I wish, with her beauty, Dina can make her own money, with her own room, and she is only a taxi driver for free.
For those who knew her, Elektra. Hu who left GT, asked 50 per day to another Hungarian girl, she gave GT address and made her start. A real shame. I'm afraid my past Romanian Medusa has also to pay her "friend" even they know each other since they were children in deep Romania.
Friend don't seem to have same meaning in this bad business, some girls steal others, some girls pimp other girls, not only guys pimp. Not the best place to find real friends.[/QUOTE]Just because Alexandra (ex Barbie) at GT told you this story about evil Elektra it doesn't mean it's true. As usual you like to put up some drama based only on gossip, on topics you don't have a clue about and that are of no great interest. It's not that I hold the truth, but I don't write here all the bullshit gossip that comes to my ears.
I will have to add myself to those who find Mandy somewhat overhyped. Cute yes, good service yes, german yes, very energetic and not shy yes but lacking some sensuality for me.
Similar story like german Lisa hype in GT. Plus Mandy's body is really petite.
Milana or even Sandra are in another (sex) league, just to name two. Agnes could be also up there, if she worked more on her BBJ skills.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1970173]I will have to add myself to those who find Mandy somewhat overhyped. Cute yes, good service yes, german yes, very energetic and not shy yes but lacking some sensuality for me.
Similar story like german Lisa hype in GT. Plus Mandy's body is really petite.
Milana or even Sandra are in another (sex) league, just to name two. Agnes could be also up there, if she worked more on her BBJ skills.[/QUOTE]Thank you. Welcum to the club. Mandy is overrated. Lisa also.
Milana is very sensual and has style.
HB.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1970073]Serbian brunette Milana? Not so busy when I saw her, not attracted by her face.
Aylice. Bu was booked for several days in the club, but high level little Bulgarian princess.[/QUOTE]Yes serbian Milana. She got several regulars that books her for hrs and 1 superfan that I also saw on my last trip.
Makes it hard for guys like me that attends infrequently.
I know some guys not attracted to her face but I am.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1970170]Just because Alexandra (ex Barbie) at GT told you this story about evil Elektra it doesn't mean it's true. As usual you like to put up some drama based only on gossip, on topics you don't have a clue about and that are of no great interest. It's not that I hold the truth, but I don't write here all the bullshit gossip that comes to my ears.[/QUOTE]Very good and utterly true comment, not only with regards to Sirioja! There is a club of bullshit gossip distributors working here! The share of bullshit rumors is reciprocal in proportion to the lack of self-esteem.
No bullshit: since beginning of December 2016, the entry fee for Sundays has been increased from 45 to now 50 Euro!
There is another price increase on Wednesday no?
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1970302]There is another price increase on Wednesday no?[/QUOTE]Nope Wednesday still 50 euro in December.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1970170]Just because Alexandra (ex Barbie) at GT told you this story about evil Elektra it doesn't mean it's true. As usual you like to put up some drama based only on gossip, on topics you don't have a clue about and that are of no great interest. It's not that I hold the truth, but I don't write here all the bullshit gossip that comes to my ears.[/QUOTE]Do you think I wrote this just to have 1 more post? The Hungarian girl was really scared about Elektra and her friends, and not the only girl who make pay another girl for advice or help given. I wrote I wish Dina does it for free for her "sister" Nicoletta.
Also girls who steal others.
When I wrote about Karolina. Pol pimp, I was with her on a Monday afternoon, on September 2015 , just before IAA, in the garden, and I heard when he called her, how she was crying on phone, we used our phones in the garden, and stressed about money after. Some who met her, would understand about what she asked.
But I agree for tattooed, past blond, now brunette, new Lisa. De at GT. She plays pornstar, but no sensuality and limited vagina. Can t say anything about Mandy because never tried, but she seems friendly, which is a good start to enjoy with her.
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1970173]I will have to add myself to those who find Mandy somewhat overhyped. Cute yes, good service yes, german yes, very energetic and not shy yes but lacking some sensuality for me.
[/QUOTE]"Overhyped" is not a great word and over used IMHO. It seems to imply somewhat "bullshit" or fake publicity. I have not tried Mandy but have no problem with those that rave about her. No one promises she will be perfection for someone like you, especially being a largely a pessimist and negative poster. "Lacking some Sensuality". Wow, how damning. Not every guy can see the girl in the same way.
Some girls have the attitude to make the most of what they got.
BTW, I thought Agnes's BBBJ was really great and was adjusted to how I like it.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1970398]"Overhyped" is not a great word and over used IMHO. It seems to imply somewhat "bullshit" or fake publicity. I have not tried Mandy but have no problem with those that rave about her. No one promises she will be perfection for someone like you, especially being a largely a pessimist and negative poster. "Lacking some Sensuality". Wow, how damning. Not every guy can see the girl in the same way.
Some girls have the attitude to make the most of what they got.
BTW, I thought Agnes's BBBJ was really great and was adjusted to how I like it.[/QUOTE]Thank god for Prof. Syz patronizing the forums, always so positive about all the girls (low service requirements by own admission + known by the girls so he can't post anything negative about them, that is a smart combination) and so negative about other posters style, and now even choice of words.
But anyway thanks for your unasked for and uninteresting opinion about my opinion.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1969704]Steffi is not a top looker at Sharks. She is sweet and has a nice smile, pretty face. She has potential so well if her services improves. Perhaps even become the next Asian killer and do long rooms if she upscales her services.[/QUOTE]Does she always sit at the bar with a towel wrapped around her waist? I briefly talked to her once, she's very cute and seemed sweet and nice but not very busy.
Hello, everyone.
As the normal business with a FKK WG is 30min-1h or may extend to 1.5h or 2h.
But now I have met a girl who I like her a lot so would like to invest and spend a little bit more with her.
I have seen in the club and heard that some guys took 5,6,7...Hour with a girl in the room, some buy expensive bottle of liquor and let the girl stay all the time, some may take the girl back to his hotel when they get a deal.
I have never tried spend "long-term" with any FKK girls. Also don't know the rules about buying bottles to spend long term. How value is the bottle if you want the girl stay with you all night? Or if you would like to invite her to your hotel, what is the price should offered and if should negociate this when is near closing time of the club? Or just buy several hours and let her stay with you in the ZIMMER, easy and useful?
Could any expert can indicate me a little bit your "LT" experience or what is the common "rules" and which may be the best option to gain success experience?
When stay more time in monger world, the necessary is more than just a great sex, but companion and spiritual fulfillment. Especially when you ran into the "right" girl and would take a risk or chance, especially when you get older.
Thanks in advance!
There is no rule for long term booking. If you actually find the right girl she will stay with you for little money. I've had girls at LR and GT where I spent a couple hours with them outside the rooms for free and only pay for room time. Do keep in mind that the girls are there to make money and not looking for love or spiritual fulfillment. It really depends on the girl, my friend and I had offers to hang out for free outside of the club with a couple girls but those are very very rare.
At Sharks the girls are more materialistic than at LR or GT, so you'd probably have to spend the money on zimmer time if they know this is what you like. Buying them drinks isn't going to cover the time they spent with you because they are there to make money not to get drunk.
Although if you are a regular at Sharks a few girls might drink with you for free or an hour or so but those are few in between. Now if you are really handsome and nice they might like you and then none of this really matters.
My personal experience at Sharks for LT booking has been about the same rate as everyone else. 100 eu for 1 HR. I think at best I pay 1000 for maybe 12-14 hours at Sharks.
As for inviting the girl to your hotel, not a lot of girls will do that, but from experience it'll be another 500 eu minimum plus how long you booked them during the day. Some girls might take you up on the offer if you are a big fish and they want to keep you as a customer. Shark's management is planning to open up a hotel near by so then there might be actual official pricing coming soon. I don't think it'll be priced at a lower rate than it is now.
It's all about the money, but you might get lucky!
Hello,
I am thinking of visiting Sharks on Dec 22, only two days before Christmas eve. Does anybody have experience from previous years concerning lineup so close to the holidays? Will it be considerably reduced?
Thank you for any hints.
I also think over-hyped is a bad choice of words. As soon as two or three posters somewhat positive reviews about a girl, a fourth guy jumps in with xyz is over-hyped. OK, if there were a hundred comments, all of them raving and extremely positive about a girl when that girl is not generally busy to start with, that is one thing. But where is the need to put down a girl simply because three or four posters like a girl? In the case of Mandy, she is a very busy girl, so the market obviously disagrees that she is over-hyped. If she was over-hyped, hundreds or more guests would not spending thousands of euros to solicit her company. And when some poster claims she is over-hyped, especially in the case of a popular girl, it clearly means your opinion is in the minority, perhaps even an outlier. Such a person is hardly qualified to say some girl is over-hyped, given your taste is outside mainstream.
Mia and Moira have been talked general positively for a long time around here. I didn't even know who they were. Recently I talked to them both and found out who they are, and now I know I had seen both of them many many times earlier, but just never found either to be my optical spec. Whether they are good in the sack and have skills or not, does not even matter time as I am not even attracted to them to try; that doesn't mean I will come here and claim they are over-hyped girls. Just happens they are not MY spec but could be attractive to several others (as they clearly seem to be).
You can negotiate the rate and don't need to buy any bottles. What is a right rate? I think 1000 a night or even for 24 hrs is a high but good number, and would be surprised if you can't negotiate at that rate or below with most girls, unless your girl is a very busy girl that makes more than a grand night in, night out. You should try it for a day like Monday / Tuesday, as they are less busy and more likely to agree to a better rate.
Companionship and spiritual fulfillment? No comment.
[QUOTE=Amspascha;1970548]I have never tried spend "long-term" with any FKK girls. Also don't know the rules about buying bottles to spend long term. How value is the bottle if you want the girl stay with you all night? Or if you would like to invite her to your hotel, what is the price should offered and if should negociate this when is near closing time of the club? Or just buy several hours and let her stay with you in the ZIMMER, easy and useful?
When stay more time in monger world, the necessary is more than just a great sex, but companion and spiritual fulfillment. Especially when you ran into the "right" girl and would take a risk or chance, especially when you get older.
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Amspascha;1970548]Hello, everyone.
As the normal business with a FKK WG is 30min-1h or may extend to 1.5h or 2h.
But now I have met a girl who I like her a lot so would like to invest and spend a little bit more with her.
I have seen in the club and heard that some guys took 5,6,7...Hour with a girl in the room, some buy expensive bottle of liquor and let the girl stay all the time, some may take the girl back to his hotel when they get a deal.
I have never tried spend "long-term" with any FKK girls. Also don't know the rules about buying bottles to spend long term. How value is the bottle if you want the girl stay with you all night? Or if you would like to invite her to your hotel, what is the price should offered and if should negociate this when is near closing time of the club? Or just buy several hours and let her stay with you in the ZIMMER, easy and useful?..[/QUOTE]The prices of the bottle depend of the club but in each one you will get the price list at the bar. For the girls consider a maximum of 100 euros per hour, but you can negotiate down case by case, first may be try 3 hours and than it is easy to extend the girls like to spend many hours in the room with the same customer. All the girls will not accept to go with you to your hotel especially if she doesn't know you and also they want to do it in a very discreet way. Good luck.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1970655]I also think over-hyped is a bad choice of words. As soon as two or three posters somewhat positive reviews about a girl, a fourth guy jumps in with xyz is over-hyped. OK, if there were a hundred comments, all of them raving and extremely positive about a girl when that girl is not generally busy to start with, that is one thing. But where is the need to put down a girl simply because three or four posters like a girl? In the case of Mandy, she is a very busy girl, so the market obviously disagrees that she is over-hyped. If she was over-hyped, hundreds or more guests would not spending thousands of euros to solicit her company. And when some poster claims she is over-hyped, especially in the case of a popular girl, it clearly means your opinion is in the minority, perhaps even an outlier. Such a person is hardly qualified to say some girl is over-hyped, given your taste is outside mainstream..[/QUOTE]Jnpr30, my gratitude to you, for your voice of reason, against the tide of locals' pessimism.
What you say makes sense and stacks up better than some of the unstantiated naysayer comments.
Thank you.
Is the proposed new construction facility for men at Sharks purely a place to crash in the night, like the girls hostel albeit at a higher price for men, or is that a place for long term booking with Sharks girls? I. E. Would they rent it you only if you book a girl for the night, and not rent a room to you if you just want to pay 75 per night and sleep till next day opening?
I know this is too early to speculate, but in case anyone knows.
As for spending some extra time with girls within the club, not hours and hours, but say 10 to 20 min, it is not difficult. Depends on your relationship with the girl. Several girls wait for me if I am finishing a drink, or if I tell them I will be ready in a little while. If it is a girl you know well and if you have a good chemistry, of course you can chat, goof around, or even neck a little. Some guys give girls massages. A win win, the girl gets a free massage, the guy gets to grope and fondle a girl for free, all out in the open to the envy of other mangers. I have done it a couple of times, but only when a girl asked; others, who are less shy than me directly offer this to the girls, I know.
Of course, all of this has to be within reason. For girls, time is money. They are paying to work there, so they are hardly there to provide us amusement and company to pass time when we are between sessions. So, I don't try to waste their time, or even get some additional free time, unless I know I will take a session relatively soon. When I know I am not going to have a session because I am not ready, and if the initial Hello, starts getting prolonged into a nice conversion, I politely interject that I just had a session and will not be ready for a while and she should keep that in mind before she spends too much time with me.
Aylice, the cute little Bulgarian princess as Siri calls her, used to be one who would spend quite a bit of free time with me on the couches. Not just talking but even petting, kissing, massaging my little John under my towel etc, and didn't mind she was not getting paid for that time. However, she did get paid, as I used to tip her to make up for that time more or less.
Met or seen: Enya, Evita, Patricia (tall, black hair), Mandy, Sandy, Sandra, Mei Ling, Milana, Dina, Nicoletta, Lorena, Megan, Tatiana, Esther, Bianca, Lavinia, Diana, Melody, Janine, Madelina, Moira, Angela, Chris, Nastia, Roxanna, Paloma, Teressa, Steffi.
Not seen or met: Yeliz, Rebecca (blond, nice tits), Ariana (at Mainhattan), Chrissi, Cindy.
Steffi seems really sweet, and fun gal. Unfortunately, no real kisses offered. So didn't try.
Sandra did not meet the expectations I had in mind. Great BBBJ though. Best looking De girl seen at Sharks thus far.
Mandy did however, great service. Not a model or anything, GND. No hype, and Sandy was great as well, red hair, lots of colorful tattoos, petite type. Both De girls recommended.
Teresa, cute face, tall like Megan with slight resemblance, but thicker body. Seems inexperienced. Funny part was she grabbed my head when kissing so I don't move my head forward. Hehe. Afraid of some intense kissin from mua? LOL.
Would have liked to try Enya and Bianca, but didn't get the right vibe with them. Wuz my intuition right?
Angela, long brunette with red band around her waste, one of the pretty faced that I have not seen before. A bit mellow, but easygoing. Good session. Would recommend, but don't expect anything intense or passionate.
Patricia, skinny tall brunette with beaky nose. Not really my type or hint of eroticism. Nice girl though, good personality. GFE, and can provided a great time in and outside the room, fun to talk with. Recommended if into GFE, cuddly types.
Esther, I'm really attracted to her. She has one of the prettiest face IMO. Really cute, and fun personality. Did she play the Jacuzzi game with yall too?(if you know what I mean) Sly girl. LOL. Avg session.
Tatiana, ex-Oase Sonia. Petite, pretty face. Her personality was better than expected as the session went onwards. I guess that's the draw for some folks. Service was ok.
Several months ago I posted a few questions (under another user name--long story) about my then upcoming visit to an FKK club for the first time. It happened to be Sharks. Ortos was kind enough to respond, and I've been remiss to report on my visit until now.
I went on a Wednesday in mid October, and of course was immediately both stunned and thrilled. I sat at the bar and luckily met a veteran from the USA Who took me under his wing. I went to rooms with three girls, as follows:
1. Karin (SP? Attractive, B-C cup, who said it was only her second week at an FKK club. I thought I made it clear that I only wanted a 30 minute session, but when we got to the room I repeated so as to confirm, and she said that she would only do a one hour session. I said OK, put on my robe and started for the door. She had a quick change of heart. Standard activities for what I've come to know in this forum, albeit halfhearted effort by her. Of course, not having partaken of anyone that young or beautiful in seemingly forever, I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. However, I wouldn't repeat based on her attitude.
I went to sit on one of the couches next, and had a very interesting conversation with some nice guys from Deutschland. During our conversation I was approached by a marginally attractive girl who repeatedly asked me to take her to a room. I tried everything I knew to shed her, finally saying that I'd think about it later. I learned my first lesson. Don't give an inch. She sat at the bar for the next two hours and glared at me, almost daring me to go to a room with someone else so she could exhibit her displeasure. A nice girl whose name I didn't get saw what was happening and walked up to say that I shouldn't worry about it. She didn't hit on me at all. I think it was pretty obvious I was somewhat out of my element.
2. Ada--the thing that is quirky about this girl is that while you're seated at the bar she comes up behind you and sticks her finger in your ear or blows very forcefully into it. It's pretty annoying, but when I wheeled around in my seat her looks immediately overcame any annoyance. 5'5" Romanian, blonde, very fit, tanned, be-see cup. I was just immediately struck. We went to a room and she didn't protest my stated desire for a 30 minute session at all. In retrospect, she must have had a pretty good idea that her work was going to be completed very quickly, which it was, but the sight of her sitting on top of me was just mind boggling. I would have repeated, but ended the night with another beautiful blonde who I've seen mentioned on here, Roxanna.
3. Roxanna--very similar description to Ada--similar enough in looks to my eyes that they could be sisters. Maybe my memory is foggy however. Again, just requested a 30 minute session, which she didn't like, but readily agreed to. She was easily the most talented of the three. I felt like that I had a glimpse of what you guys refer to as good service. Again, not surprisingly, she made quick work of me after giving me a short but good back massage.
This is obviously my first report, and I apologize for leaving out any necessary details. I want to thank Ortos for his nice advice a few months ago. I always particularly enjoy his, Bitumen's and Hessen Bub's posts, not to slight any of the rest of you. You are all (almost) quite entertaining and informative. I hope to make it back in the next few months. What an experience!
Finito 14.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1970655]
Mia and Moira have been talked general positively for a long time around here. I didn't even know who they were. Recently I talked to them both and found out who they are, and now I know I had seen both of them many many times earlier, but just never found either to be my optical spec. Whether they are good in the sack and have skills or not, does not even matter time as I am not even attracted to them to try; that doesn't mean I will come here and claim they are over-hyped girls. Just happens they are not MY spec but could be attractive to several others (as they clearly seem to be).[/QUOTE]Well stated. My top 3 girls in Sharks ever were fabulous in the room but not likely to be spec of everyone, in fact none if them were even my spec, so I took a long time to try all 3.
Pamela (gone), Agnes, and Moira.
Amazes me that the negative posters will be unwilling to be impressed by one girl, but are afraid to state which girls are so much better and why.
I am suspecting that Mandy must be No. 1 in demand girl right now, even I never met her. I would love to hear which girls are so much better, if there are any, since I have been a bit bored at Sharks recently.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1970746]
Steffi seems really sweet, and fun gal. Unfortunately, no real kisses offered. So didn't try.
Sandy was great as well, red hair, lots of colorful tattoos, petite type.
Esther, I'm really attracted to her. She has one of the prettiest face IMO. Really cute, and fun personality. Did she play the Jacuzzi game with yall too?(if you know what I mean) Sly girl. LOL. Avg session.
[/QUOTE]Steffis has one of the prettiest face at Sharks too bad she doesn't rly kisses (I'm a face guy). I kinda knew it but still sessioned with her bc of all the flirting outside, LOL.
I wanted to try Sandy on Friday but she was busy and didn't show up on Sat. Normally not my spec but cute and based on my interaction with her should provide good service.
Esther totally ignored me on this trip guess she rmb me. I'm not overly attracted to her otherwise wud have tried her a long time ago.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1970796]Steffis has one of the prettiest face at Sharks too bad she doesn't rly kisses (I'm a face guy). I kinda knew it but still sessioned with her bc of all the flirting outside, LOL.[/QUOTE]So is she the one who sits at the bar with a towel wrapped around her waist?
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1970578]There is no rule for long term booking. If you actually find the right girl she will stay with you for little money. I've had girls at LR and GT where I spent a couple hours with them outside the rooms for free and only pay for room time. Do keep in mind that the girls are there to make money and not looking for love or spiritual fulfillment. It really depends on the girl, my friend and I had offers to hang out for free outside of the club with a couple girls but those are very very rare.
At Sharks the girls are more materialistic than at LR or GT, so you'd probably have to spend the money on zimmer time if they know this is what you like. Buying them drinks isn't going to cover the time they spent with you because they are there to make money not to get drunk.
Although if you are a regular at Sharks a few girls might drink with you for free or an hour or so but those are few in between. Now if you are really handsome and nice they might like you and then none of this really matters.
My personal experience at Sharks for LT booking has been about the same rate as everyone else. 100 eu for 1 HR. I think at best I pay 1000 for maybe 12-14 hours at Sharks.
As for inviting the girl to your hotel, not a lot of girls will do that, but from experience it'll be another 500 eu minimum plus how long you booked them during the day. Some girls might take you up on the offer if you are a big fish and they want to keep you as a customer. Shark's management is planning to open up a hotel near by so then there might be actual official pricing coming soon. I don't think it'll be priced at a lower rate than it is now.
It's all about the money, but you might get lucky![/QUOTE]Before I was thought, if customer buy expensive drink it means a commitment that the girl will stay longer time with him as I have seen many times in different FKKS, I thought If you want sex, pay zimmer time, if you want "talk and flirt and stay with" pay drinks. So these guys were paid drinks and "normal zimmer rate" to let the girl to stay with them? As in Sharks, I had seen several times that "Janine?" Brunette with nice tits sit with a customer (not same) on the sofa near the locker area until club closed and also had seen 2 times Evita stay long time also "lovely talking" with Asian customers.
I also think the best option may be directly, quoted Zimmer rate with the girl and just spend long time with her in the club. If finally got the feeling, than considered if extend to hotel as a "ST--Temporary girlfriend".
As the rooms in Sharks were truly nice and beat every medium-high level hotel in Darmstadt,also you can eat, drink and enjoy in the club which can not do in hotel. But if you invite her to hotel when is very late, the "price-quality" would be lower because the girl will be tired, also it doesn't make sense pay a lot just for "your lover sleep with you". When you fell asleep you just snore comfortably but didn't feel "Love" haha.
Anyway, I think nowadays is hardly to find this level of girls (although most Ro cuties), level of facilities and the 100 euros each hour with GFE service. In US, UK, France and almost ANY PLACE in the world. The market in east Europe have been ruined and in Asia the mongering price have risen dramatically these years especially in China, Thailand even in Vietnam. In South Korea, Japan or Macau as my "internet investigation" you can't find the best German FKK level girls for less than 800-1000 euros for "short time session" plus the language and information barriers.
So. I really appreciated German people to create this "FKK neverland" for us to enjoy the high "price-quality level" product made in Germany.
I hope I will be lucky when I met her again. And many thanks for your suggestions.
[QUOTE=Amspascha;1970863]So these guys were paid drinks and "normal zimmer rate" to let the girl to stay with them? As in Sharks, I had seen several times that "Janine?" Brunette with nice tits sit with a customer (not same) on the sofa near the locker area until club closed and also had seen 2 times Evita stay long time also "lovely talking" with Asian customers.[/QUOTE]That guy that sits with Janine is a high roller. He pays for all of her time with him also he pays for the drinks because he likes to drink, a lot. There is some interesting gossip from the other girls about those 2 but that's not for here. As for Evita and the other Asian killers, they are almost certain to be paid for those long love talks.
You can find girls that will sit and talk to you for free for 10, 15, or 30 minutes even at Sharks, but any longer than that it's going to cost you.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1970836]So is she the one who sits at the bar with a towel wrapped around her waist?[/QUOTE]Likely her. She's fake dirty stright blond. Attractive puppy dog eyes. Sits close to the center of the bar close to the pond thingy behind her when saw last. More of pretty GND looks than hot.
Does anyone know what's the blonde russian girl name? I spent a couple hours with her last Saturday and totally forgot her name. She told me that she's new in Sharks.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1970870]That guy that sits with Janine is a high roller. He pays for all of her time with him also he pays for the drinks because he likes to drink, a lot. There is some interesting gossip from the other girls about those 2 but that's not for here. As for Evita and the other Asian killers, they are almost certain to be paid for those long love talks.
You can find girls that will sit and talk to you for free for 10, 15, or 30 minutes even at Sharks, but any longer than that it's going to cost you.[/QUOTE]I would have no idea what to talk about with girls that charge for social time. Long "presales" happen when the conversation is flowing, which typically means you both enjoy the conversation (it helps if it a quiet day). Sharks is no difference really. I haven't been that much this year (for obvious service related reasons), but still had at least 3 visits with sessions that were preceded by a few hours of social time (well, one of them was an hour and a half). Strangely enough these are the kind of girls that don't need any upsell to keep you in the room for a longer time (and in most cases not just 60 minutes either).
My most extreme example of this was in Mainhattan of all places, where I spent an evening in which I had a total of 45 minutes alone time and about 8 hours of social time (and another hour and a half in the room) with two girls I didn't even know (although I had seen both of them elsewhere before). That really was getting your money's worth for 150 E and a lot of fun as well.
All this just to say that circumstances and mood play a role and it can happen anywhere. it's just not something you can always control, because the average session sure doesn't start like this.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1970659]You can negotiate the rate and don't need to buy any bottles. What is a right rate? I think 1000 a night or even for 24 hrs is a high but good number, and would be surprised if you can't negotiate at that rate or below with most girls, unless your girl is a very busy girl that makes more than a grand night in, night out. You should try it for a day like Monday / Tuesday, as they are less busy and more likely to agree to a better rate.
Companionship and spiritual fulfillment? No comment.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your accurate date-price strategy. Unfortunately this girl may still not be a "very busy girl" but surely is one of the highlight in Sharks even considered her face, body or age. Monday Tuesday maybe a better option for negotiation but as I didin't live in Germany, I will choose Wednesday or even weekend to come to ensure she will be present when I come.
When we were in session we have some word or we can say many words in common because of some same hobby and value which I found difficult in FKKS. I appreciate this lucky and thought she is just a perfect GF or lover (at lease for now) for me but can not come true in my real life.
For her I am glad to start my first try, will hit Sharks again in January next year. So, first, hope she will be present, second, hope she will not "change" for the worse.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1970870]That guy that sits with Janine is a high roller. He pays for all of her time with him also he pays for the drinks because he likes to drink, a lot. There is some interesting gossip from the other girls about those 2 but that's not for here. As for Evita and the other Asian killers, they are almost certain to be paid for those long love talks.
You can find girls that will sit and talk to you for free for 10, 15, or 30 minutes even at Sharks, but any longer than that it's going to cost you.[/QUOTE]The worst clients are these kind of market destroyers. These guys are just want to buy out the girl with a reasonless style or just spend a lot money as a hobby. Truely recommend these guys to go to casinos.
Before I also heard from a popular girl in Sharks told me that there is an Asian client spend 250 euro with her for 1H and buy her watch, etc.
Although I am Asian, but I really hate and even disgust these kind of behaviors. And believe me all of the best Asian mongering (countries) market are destroying due to these guys and such abundant stupid splurge behaviors.
[QUOTE=Amspascha;1970954]Before I also heard from a popular girl in Sharks told me that there is an Asian client spend 250 euro with her for 1H and buy her watch, etc.[/QUOTE]Heard similar story about a Shark girl who got a watch. Honestly 250 eu for an hour isn't even that bad. It's average price if you want all the extras, anal and CIM.
The outrageous ones are the guys spending 2-10 k eu for just a couple of hours. Some even buy the girls cars and flats. Those are the ones ruining the market. I've heard some big spender stories at GT, LR, and Sharks. They are all either Asian or Arab guys.
On the flip side if the guy is really good looking or nice they get to go on vacation with some of the girls for free. Too bad I'm not hot enough LOL!
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1967097]But the story was she was in the club and she never kept your appointment with you meaning you were waiting for her to show and still left the club. So bad of her.[/QUOTE]When a client tells a girl "maybe later", this client is not accused. But when a girl tells a client "maybe later" because she's busy with a client, this girl is accused. I think it's unfair.
[QUOTE=Amspascha;1970863]Anyway, I think nowadays is hardly to find this level of girls (although most Ro cuties), level of facilities and the 100 euros each hour with GFE service. In US, UK, France and almost ANY PLACE in the world. The market in east Europe have been ruined and in Asia the mongering price have risen dramatically these years especially in China, Thailand even in Vietnam. In South Korea, Japan or Macau as my "internet investigation" you can't find the best German FKK level girls for less than 800-1000 euros for "short time session" plus the language and information barriers.
So. I really appreciated German people to create this "FKK neverland" for us to enjoy the high "price-quality level" product made in Germany..[/QUOTE]In 20 years or 30 or whatever, it is not impossible to imagine that these Eastern European girls could be in pretty high demand. It's happening already, but could be much much more. Reality is, Asia is getting richer. Japan has been for a while, and Korea and Taiwan and smaller ones like Singapore and HK, but now China has hundreds of thousands if not more of dollar millionaires, and that number is going up. India will also rise to some extent. And knowledge and awareness of these European hookers will spread and travel will be easier. Most of these Asians have a thing for white girls, especially blond girls. So, what's happening at Oase and other FRK clubs today, I can easily see that being multiplied ten times and worse as more of the Asian mangers travel and have money. And the supply of white girls willing to fuck all and sundry is not going up at the same rate as the growth of Asian mangers with money and aware and willing to travel. Right now, they are coming to German FKK and other places, but over time, it is quite possible other business models evolve and facilitate where the monger and girl meets to fuck, except the $rate for the girls can only go up.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1970836]So is she the one who sits at the bar with a towel wrapped around her waist?[/QUOTE]There might be more than one girl with a towel around the waist and sitting at the bar. Unfortunately, these days, there are quite a few of them. That said, Steffi does have a towel most of the time I saw her, and does sit at the bar or sometimes between the kino and stairs. Don't remember who she hangs out with or who her best buddies are. Many times, just see her alone.
[QUOTE=Amspascha;1970954]
Before I also heard from a popular girl in Sharks told me that there is an Asian client spend 250 euro with her for 1H
Although I am Asian, but I really hate and even disgust these kind of behaviors. And believe me all of the best Asian mongering (countries) market are destroying due to these guys and such abundant stupid splurge behaviors.[/QUOTE]You stay one hour in a room with anal session and CIM. It's already 250 euros LOL. Anyway, each customer spends his money like he wants.
[QUOTE=Amspascha;1970954]The worst clients are these kind of market destroyers. These guys are just want to buy out the girl with a reasonless style or just spend a lot money as a hobby. Truely recommend these guys to go to casinos.
Before I also heard from a popular girl in Sharks told me that there is an Asian client spend 250 euro with her for 1H and buy her watch, etc.
Although I am Asian, but I really hate and even disgust these kind of behaviors. And believe me all of the best Asian mongering (countries) market are destroying due to these guys and such abundant stupid splurge behaviors.[/QUOTE]Not too much you or I can do about it. For now, we are lucky there are plenty of girls, and the situation with Janine is somewhat unique (apparently, her dude is nice enough to "allow her" to fuck a selective client or two, if he likes the guy).
Anyway, this can happen in any other walk of life, and what can you do? In the recent past, house and condo prices in places like London and NYC were bid up to crazy levels because rich people from China, Russia and Middle East had too much money and were looking to stash it away out of the reach of their governments; in that process, regular people who are natives of those cities could not find affordable residential areas in commutable distance anymore. When you think about it, a guy monopolizing a girl like Janine is no big deal, LOL.
[QUOTE=Amspascha;1970954]The worst clients are these kind of market destroyers. These guys are just want to buy out the girl with a reasonless style or just spend a lot money as a hobby.[/QUOTE]I see these things different. I'm glad that the girls sometimes have a big sponsor, some even get a nickname from the girls like "Hallelujah". Without that a lot of top act girls wouldn't work anymore in Germany they don't wait for the "I want everything for 50 euro" clients. And when I hear the girls are now a days more or only money-orientated I can only laugh, average earnings of the German FKK club girls is now only around 50 % compared with 10 years ago!
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1970992]When a client tells a girl "maybe later", this client is not accused. But when a girl tells a client "maybe later" because she's busy with a client, this girl is accused. I think it's unfair.[/QUOTE]But Carpe Viam, I do believe Mr Yama Yama had made an appointment to meet Evita. YamaYama and Evita was supposed to meet at an appointed time. This is why is is so bad of Evita to do this to our orgasm producing hero.
This is a slightly different case than when I girl wants to go with you and you say "maybe later" since you do not make an appointment. Also it is a naive girl in this business who believes the words "maybe later" is a contract that they will have sex later on. If only the real world work in this way, but it does not.
[QUOTE=TeFab456;1970608]Thank you for any hints.[/QUOTE]The club is a little quiet.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1971024]Not too much you or I can do about it. For now, we are lucky there are plenty of girls, and the situation with Janine is somewhat unique (apparently, her dude is nice enough to "allow her" to fuck a selective client or two, if he likes the guy).
Anyway, this can happen in any other walk of life, and what can you do? In the recent past, house and condo prices in places like London and NYC were bid up to crazy levels because rich people from China, Russia and Middle East had too much money and were looking to stash it away out of the reach of their governments; in that process, regular people who are natives of those cities could not find affordable residential areas in commutable distance anymore. When you think about it, a guy monopolizing a girl like Janine is no big deal, LOL.[/QUOTE]Girls like Janine are only in the club because of her regular guy. People should thank him for giving them access to her by encouraging her to work in the club. He could easily turn her into an escort girl at high prices and she would not be available at all. The fact that she is in the club is not an indication that she would work there if he does not show up.
[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1970977]Heard similar story about a Shark girl who got a watch. Honestly 250 eu for an hour isn't even that bad. It's average price if you want all the extras, anal and CIM.
The outrageous ones are the guys spending 2-10 k eu for just a couple of hours. Some even buy the girls cars and flats. Those are the ones ruining the market. I've heard some big spender stories at GT, LR, and Sharks. They are all either Asian or Arab guys.
On the flip side if the guy is really good looking or nice they get to go on vacation with some of the girls for free. Too bad I'm not hot enough LOL![/QUOTE]That is why many of the girls go to Switzerland. Prices have been going down in Germany and are considered rather low.
[QUOTE=FreeDude;1970938]I would have no idea what to talk about with girls that charge for social time. Long "presales" happen when the conversation is flowing, which typically means you both enjoy the conversation (it helps if it a quiet day).[/QUOTE]Agreed. I have on many instances had girls sit with me for hours before a session. More often it's after a session and she is done for the night so she will sit with me from say 11 pm til 5 am or whenever the club closes. Of course this happened much more often in the good old days but still common in a club like LR.
[QUOTE=Akibono;1971129]Girls like Janine are only in the club because of her regular guy. People should thank him for giving them access to her by encouraging her to work in the club. He could easily turn her into an escort girl at high prices and she would not be available at all. The fact that she is in the club is not an indication that she would work there if he does not show up.[/QUOTE]Janine started at Sharks on Summer 2014, so we had a lot of time to try her before she started drinking, smoking, touching hair companionship. I met so many other top GFE girls at Sharks, I didn't even regret not to lose 50, compare to women like Agnes. Pol or Roberta. Ro or top class Alice / Kate, or beauties like Ingrid, Rena, Karin or Megan, or top performers like Karolina. Pol, Aylice. Bu, angel Sandra for her behavior, even Ariana when she started, or top GF like Jana. Hu. So many good times at Sharks without Janine. Really no regret about her face, beautiful tits are not enough, Diana, Beatrice ex Oase, Mersi, Anja, I wish she found Zurich or another place where she is fine, can compete for tits challenge. But shining smile and eyes are much more sexy. I remember Roberta sitting close to me while I was watching Austrian F1 , when she was smiling, it was just a torture to keep on watching cars turning around. As soon it was finished, smiles and straight to chalet at 4 pm under sun on hot July, for tornado experience. Really bad luck, when arrived on Friday, she decided to return to Zurich for better business. Never saw her at Globe, she came from Relax. High level Romanian woman, sensual, high skill, a real woman.
[QUOTE=Akibono;1971129]Girls like Janine are only in the club because of her regular guy.[/QUOTE]She was working before also, that regular guy has been around for a few months max only. Janine has been around far longer.
HB.
I've been to Sharks 3 times. I've seen the outdoor cabins. There are rooms that look like caves up the grand staircase near the Jacuzzi. There are rooms downstairs opposite side of the room from the cinema. There are rooms up another staircase near the small cash boxes, the staircase begins at the small cash boxes.
Where is the VIP area?
How do you become a VIP?
And, another comment, kind of on the LOL side: Have you noticed that, unless you arrive to Sharks with a friend, there is NO talking amongst the men. You're pretty much alone and in a bubble until with a girl.
[QUOTE=Akibono;1971132]That is why many of the girls go to Switzerland. Prices have been going down in Germany and are considered rather low.[/QUOTE]Rates increased at GT, LR and Samya. Before was 75/ h. On end of July, had Russian Katea for 4 h15 for 350 . If I was more concentrated on time, less on sex marathon but she became so hot for a Siberian, should have finished at just 4 hours and just pay only 300. Hessen clubs are 50/30 mn since long time.
I paid 280 for 1 hour with Kate at Globe, our last rooms were 420 for about 2 hours with smiles and kisses before and shower together and kisses after. She was often quite busy, like last Saturday, but always smiling and coming when seeing me. No reason for her to return to Sharks nor World if she decides to return in future. Better business with big money in Switzerland.
[QUOTE=Akibono;1971129]Girls like Janine are only in the club because of her regular guy. People should thank him for giving them access to her by encouraging her to work in the club. He could easily turn her into an escort girl at high prices and she would not be available at all. The fact that she is in the club is not an indication that she would work there if he does not show up.[/QUOTE]What he could do is not worth while worrying about. Janine does show up on some days when he is not there. Saw this recently and she was very busy with a succession of other customers.
Speculation cannot beat the facts. Janine is popular. Plenty of guys are frustrated when they cannot get to her, or are "cock-blocked".
[QUOTE=Amspascha;1970954]The worst clients are these kind of market destroyers. These guys are just want to buy out the girl with a reasonless style or just spend a lot money as a hobby. Truely recommend these guys to go to casinos.[/QUOTE]This is a "me me me" attitude. Girls are struggling to make enough money for the most part. If they find ways to make much more money, great for them, bad luck for you. As Craiova says, girls made a lot more money 10 years ago, even forgetting about inflation.
The whole concept that every girl is the club is worth exactly the same money for the same amount of time, is a little silly to me. There are great fucks and beautiful girls, there are also lousy fucks and ugly girls, with no correlation of course.
I accept that I will lose out to a regular customer or an 8 hour booking customer. It's reality.
You can waste your money at a Casino, but it is not sex, completely devoid of any fun at all.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1971174]She was working before also, that regular guy has been around for a few months max only. Janine has been around far longer.
HB.[/QUOTE]Janine has another regular guy? Not the skinny German or Dutch guy with the grey wavy hair?
Actually I don't care if Janine is present or not when I am there. And I am not paying attention to the sofa group next to the lockers. That area has the sex appeal of an elderly home with some nice girls from time to time.
HB.
[QUOTE=Akibono;1971129]Girls like Janine are only in the club because of her regular guy. People should thank him for giving them access to her by encouraging her to work in the club. He could easily turn her into an escort girl at high prices and she would not be available at all. The fact that she is in the club is not an indication that she would work there if he does not show up.[/QUOTE]The nice girls will earn more in a FKK than to be escort, today average income for a escort in Germany is around 1000 euros per week, some weeks you can earn 3000 or 4000 euros but is a exceptional.
I was confirmed by at least three ex-globe girls that they made less net-income in Globe than in Sharks (or Golden Time), even if Zόrich hourly rate is three-time higher than German FKK clubs. So I might conclude that the earning potential should be similar in both Globe and Sharks for stunning girls.
FKK girls make much less money than 10 years ago due to the imbalance of supply and demanding. Girls number might be stable, But aging local German population have less libido and money to spend in FKK clubs. Without a large influx of rich tourists from outside Germany, especially from America and East Asia, the FKK industry would be finished.
All girls hate 50 e half-hour session. We all knew that. I never intend to take this advantage. In room, half hour for sex, the rest half hour for chatting, so I am one-hour-session guy. Quite a few times I offered 3-hour paid sessions, one hour sex in room and two hours sitting and drinking on sofa at lobby or backyard, for a few specific girls I was really in love with. These, however, not only really upset a few jealous clients, who thought I got "free" time from stunning girls, but irritated several my favorite Romanian girls, who also demanded similar special treatments otherwise they would "blackball" me. When I realized issues, I stopped bringing girls outside zimmers during paid sessions.
In Summary, it is unwise to keep saying that rate in Germany is very low. It would fundamentally ruin business with the rate increasing. If you really sympathize with these girls and want to show your respects and kindness to them, please offer them one hour or longer session, which would help these girls to make money in a relatively easy way.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1971297]The nice girls will earn more in a FKK than to be escort, today average income for a escort in Germany is around 1000 euros per week, some weeks you can earn 3000 or 4000 euros but is a exceptional.[/QUOTE]Escorts in Germany make only 1000 per week? I would not leave my bed for so low money. Russian escorts in Paris make 1500/2000 per day, with half for Agency, some girls at Globe make 1500/2000 per day.
[QUOTE=Amspascha;1970954]Before I also heard from a popular girl in Sharks told me that there is an Asian client spend 250 euro with her for 1H and buy her watch, etc.
Although I am Asian, but I really hate and even disgust these kind of behaviors. And believe me all of the best Asian mongering (countries) market are destroying due to these guys and such abundant stupid splurge behaviors.[/QUOTE]She was just meaning she wanted you do the same. I never speak about money or present with girls. Romanian girls may know French are poor. As my claimed friend Bitumen says, I need to sleep in my car to be able to pay for rooms. That's why my most often visited club now is Globe with entry 95 and 140/30 mn. But at Aca, I pay 40/30 mn for real beauties.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1971021]There might be more than one girl with a towel around the waist and sitting at the bar. Unfortunately, these days, there are quite a few of them. That said, Steffi does have a towel most of the time I saw her, and does sit at the bar or sometimes between the kino and stairs. Don't remember who she hangs out with or who her best buddies are. Many times, just see her alone.[/QUOTE]Blond Bianka uses to have towel around her ass, she seems to have complex about. As not smiling, but with her ratio ass / body, doggy should be great to look at her.
Stefi uses to stay alone, not hunting, sitting waiting, just behavior I like for a girl. She is different from most other girls at Sharks.
I often saw Mandy turning around for business, smiling, maybe things changed at Sharks, since I don't visit anymore, even I was not asked to leave the club on 5 November, nor to not return. But boring last visits, when can find dreams at GT, LR and Switzerland to go to buy white chocolate for not much more than 3 CHF and to prepare for ski. Snow on mountains now, ski shoes will be tested very soon.
Is beauty Karin, staying at the bar close to restaurant, back at Sharks?
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1969202]again Evita n Cosmina busy with their asian guy but when that guy disappered they suddenly didnt look that hot anymore, had to take a walk around and even session with turkish guys for 50 e, LOL.
Know we have talked about tourists ruining the service but we forgot to mention the turkish guys. there are alot of them at night and most of these prolly only wants bbbj and fuck[/QUOTE]I often wrote about Turkish behavior from what Romanian or Bulgarian girls told me: rude sex, being treated like a piece of meat hole, lack of respect, but most often they are only fast 50 for girls, so they don't make girls level going down.
On the other hand, there are guys who decide to overpay and have hugging, chatting, smoking, drinking rooms, regulars will understand who they are, so girls prefer this easy business which save their vagina.
But can still find many high level girls in Germany, not only Hessen.
[QUOTE=Bubbster;1971206]I've been to Sharks 3 times. I've seen the outdoor cabins. There are rooms that look like caves up the grand staircase near the Jacuzzi. There are rooms downstairs opposite side of the room from the cinema. There are rooms up another staircase near the small cash boxes, the staircase begins at the small cash boxes.
Where is the VIP area?
How do you become a VIP?
[/QUOTE]Just climb the main staircase about three quarters (the one that starts near the money boxes), and there is a platform leading to the VIP rooms on the left.
One time, doors were open (maybe too much waiting at the regular rooms), and the girl I was with noticed and took me there.
Honestly, it's not much better than the best regular rooms (the new ones with a shower directly inside the room). There is a jacuzi, but it takes like forever to fill. Also a private pole for strippers.
I assume it can be booked for some kind of money, but like I said, on this particular day, it happened to be opened, and we just walked in.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1971211]
I paid 280 for 1 hour with Kate at Globe, our last rooms were 420 for about 2 hours with smiles and kisses before and shower together and kisses after. She was often quite busy, like last Saturday, but always smiling and coming when seeing me. No reason for her to return to Sharks nor World if she decides to return in future. Better business with big money in Switzerland.[/QUOTE]Did you pay 280 CHF or 280 EUR for 1 hour at Globe?
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1971477]Did you pay 280 CHF or 280 EUR for 1 hour at Globe?[/QUOTE]You can pay girls with CHF, , or USD, 1 for 1, so I pay in , I keep my few CHF for white chocolate in Zermatt or Verbier soon. Can also pay with credit card, charged 10% with Visa or Mastercard.
But Kate left. But Isabella is back, good reason to return to enjoy with my soon for 3 years GF, since our first room at Sharks on February 2014 when she was with Laura / Livia. I never repeated with Roxana, Cosmina, Dina, but so many rooms with Isabella, at Sharks, then at World where I went with her before going with Madi, and now Globe when Kate is off. Isabella may be the only girl at Globe who doesn't need to make up, just washing, to succeed to inspection, what I call a natural beauty, with no tattoo, and she really improved her level.
The best thing about the VIP rooms are the red couches outside, where connoisseurs of public debauchery can see, be seen, and attain sexual nirvana, LOL?
(OK, that last one is a hyperbole; But not by much).
Unfortunately, most guests whether local or foreigners, seem too prudish and shy to participate and perform. It's only sex people! Birds do it, bees do it, we all do it, even you do it inside the room. Let it all hang out, I say.
(One time, I was fucking this girl on the red couch, and another couple was doing the nasty right in my line of sight, and my girl tells me "don't look baby, not nice". I was thinking "says who" Is there any written or unwritten rule about looking? In my book, if you fuck in the open, you want to be seen, period).
BTW, the VIP rooms get opened up pretty much most weekend nights and even some week day nights. As long as there is any line for the rooms, Sharks management is opening the doors, to their credit.
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1971477]Did you pay 280 CHF or 280 EUR for 1 hour at Globe?[/QUOTE]Sir Siri meant 280 CHF since that would be the going rate for 1 hour of srtvice at Globe club in Zurich. There is close to parity CHF to EUR but EUR still has a premium versus CHF so not quite 1;1 yet.
You also have to forgive Sir Siri sometimss for his lax writing style.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1971297]The nice girls will earn more in a FKK than to be escort, today average income for a escort in Germany is around 1000 euros per week, some weeks you can earn 3000 or 4000 euros but is a exceptional.[/QUOTE]I am trying to get my head around this. Your proposition is that nice girls will earn more working in a FKK than if they worked as an escort. The earnings of an escort is 1000 and can be up to 4000 euros you provide as a supporting statement. Given the premise of the initial statement then a FKK girls will earn more than 1000 a week and potentially way more 4000 a week giving better earnings than an escort would earn.
The rationale if I may provide one is the escort will work infrequently but the FKK girl will work regularly and be able to have access to a pool of mongers in a club. So the earning potential of a FKK girl who is nice will invariably be better than an escort in general.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1971443]I need to sleep in my car to be able to pay for rooms. That's why my most often visited club now is Globe with entry 95 and 140/30 mn. But at Aca, I pay 40/30 mn for real beauties.[/QUOTE]We all understand your approach. You are not alone Sir Siri. There are always guys on this forum asking about cheapest hotels, cheapest ways to get to the clubs or cheap entry fees for clubs.
Sleeping in your igloo car is one way to save money. Your choice. I am not sure I want to know where you go to take a dump though when stayinv in your car.
As you say, you find ways to save money in one place to be able to spend the money saved elsewhere. It is about making choices. Such as your choice about sleeping in your car and being able to choose to pay 280 CHF a hour at Globe or 80 euros a hour at Acapulco. It is a choice you have made. Similarly, as you say with the money saved by sleeping in your car you can now make Globe your currently most frequented club. Choices and opportunity.
The same way you choose to pay in euro at Globe. This is the same for many eurozone visitors who go to the Swiss clubs. It saves needing to exchange their euros into Swiss Francs. Sometimes I do the same in my visits to Switzerland especially on short visits to pay in euro on a one for one basis. The girls in some clubs also work on the same basis when paying the club to work but of course CHF is worth a discount on the euro so will tend to pay in Swiss Francs whenever possible.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1971440]Escorts in Germany make only 1000 per week? I would not leave my bed for so low money. Russian escorts in Paris make 1500/2000 per day, with half for Agency, some girls at Globe make 1500/2000 per day.[/QUOTE]What he is not taking into account is many escort girls choose to earn less, even if money is there, because they only choose to go with certain clients. The job can be much less stressful because they are not hunting.
They may actually earn more in the long run because they are able to keep their looks up.
Speaking of choices, I used to put Canadian quarters into the laundry machines during my undergrad -'Until the landlord caught me.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1971514]The rationale if I may provide one is the escort will work infrequently but the FKK girl will work regularly and be able to have access to a pool of mongers in a club. So the earning potential of a FKK girl who is nice will invariably be better than an escort in general.[/QUOTE]Lana (Dom) once called Luna at Oase, now work Sharks on Sunday only, she says. She has a regular job, but works FKK for pocket money, and potentially horny. LOL. It is likely she does some Escort too. Kelly also used to work rather part time.
Most part timers at Sharks are likely to take private customers as Escort style. Earnings are improved a lot by including a busy FKK component.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1971482]But Isabella is back, good reason to return to enjoy with my soon for 3 years GF, since our first room at Sharks on February 2014 when she was with Laura / Livia. Isabella may be the only girl at Globe who doesn't need to make up, just washing, to succeed to inspection, what I call a natural beauty, with no tattoo, and she really improved her level.[/QUOTE]I have always wondered why Isabella was so pathetic in the room when I tried her at Sharks. Perhaps had some reason not to like me, but very few girls ever have been so poor. I cancelled session after about 15 minutes. She clearly did not want me as a customer, yet most others did. Chemistry was obviously shit. I think I was not the only one reporting pathetic performance though. She did not seem to get many regular customers at that time, and seemed very disinterested. Laura / Livia was a little less pathetic but was clearly dick scared when tried her. She wanted to do BBBJ only. LOL.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1971513]Sir Siri meant 280 CHF since that would be the going rate for 1 hour of srtvice at Globe club in Zurich. There is close to parity CHF to EUR but EUR still has a premium versus CHF so not quite 1;1 yet.
You also have to forgive Sir Siri sometimss for his lax writing style.[/QUOTE]As I wrote many times, I pay Globe entry 95 with credit card, charged 10%, so 105 CHF, and I pay cash girls in , I know my 2 girls from Germany, CHF is 0. 92 , but money change is charged. Can give USD to desk and they will give CHF to your darling, desk do for 1/1. A day at Globe is between 500 when only one work and 1000 when both work. I keep my few CHF given back from lockers for white chocolate to get sugar to survive in igloo when minus 0 now in Switzerland Winter nights. But cold is good for heath and to get so firm body.
About business, Aurelia who was and would still be one of the prettiest at Sharks, seems to prefer her business at Globe now, she is on new tour right now, I think third or fourth, after a short try at Bumsalp. Kate made at least 5 tours at Globe, since she was at Sharks on last April. Isabella who worked at Oase on Summer 2013 when Oase was on top, Sharks on beginning of 2014 with her "sister" Laura / Livia, World for amazing 11th birthday on June 2014 , when casting was on top with her, Anna. Pol and her friend blond Lisa. De who both came from Bumsalp, Emmanuela, Madi, Nea, seems also happy to make her business at Globe now, since beginning of the year and each time she leaves home, before starting to work, send me message saying how she loves me and she missed me at home, lovely beauty. Now Kate returned at home, so no more: I don t like You go with Isabella, who would be my Christmas present a few days before, because real worth present would be to fly on white paradise, that s always a dream.
I just wait for Anja to chat with her about all what was written about her at Sharks, about businessmen. I'm sure she missed her mousy.
Some Sharks girls like Megan, Stefi, Dina, Agnes could compete for beauty at Globe where pretty girls with good behavior and level, seem happy to make good business, the busiest around 2000 on week end days.
I have to change my money business, to buy an hotel in Zurich, so at least I will get a warm room for my painful bones and Globe will be my restaurant. Unfortunately no more warm swimming pool there, it was the best one I knew.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1971569]We all understand your approach. You are not alone Sir Siri. There are always guys on this forum asking about cheapest hotels, cheapest ways to get to the clubs or cheap entry fees for clubs.
Sleeping in your igloo car is one way to save money. Your choice. I am not sure I want to know where you go to take a dump though when stayinv in your car.
As you say, you find ways to save money in one place to be able to spend the money saved elsewhere. It is about making choices. Such as your choice about sleeping in your car and being able to choose to pay 280 CHF a hour at Globe or 80 euros a hour at Acapulco. It is a choice you have made. Similarly, as you say with the money saved by sleeping in your car you can now make Globe your currently most frequented club. Choices and opportunity.
The same way you choose to pay in euro at Globe. This is the same for many eurozone visitors who go to the Swiss clubs. It saves needing to exchange their euros into Swiss Francs. Sometimes I do the same in my visits to Switzerland especially on short visits to pay in euro on a one for one basis. The girls in some clubs also work on the same basis when paying the club to work but of course CHF is worth a discount on the euro so will tend to pay in Swiss Francs whenever possible.[/QUOTE]Same than for Anja who is an easy going girl, even for a guy like me, after she was bullshit by your German friend about me before we met, and she asked me to repeat at the end of the room. She also went with Turkish for fast 50 and she was used to suck and fuck sex. You don't understand more about a Swiss white chocolate for 3 CHF guy who could buy a Ferrari with money spent in brothels, when you should know hotels are really cheap rates in Germany. But when you leave your girls at 4 or 5 am, why missing sunrise? To save 40 ? To pay entry and girls at Globe? I couldn't even with money saved.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1969202]Know we have talked about tourists ruining the service but we forgot to mention the turkish guys. there are alot of them at night and most of these prolly only wants bbbj and fuck[/QUOTE]Some girls probably prefer Turkish customers for leaving right after the business is completo, and probably less requirements(less GFE looking types). Likely the ones that isn't up for GFE sessions. Some straight up do not, and partial of them likely out of racial or how their treated by the wrong ones.
Depends on what type of Turkish clients and what type of service that the girl is ok with. Likely younger types clients would go more for suck and fuck, and older for more GFE experience. Like Samya vs Mondial. Mondial has more younger populus. About hard fikkin. At GT the clientel types are on avg older than YY, and complaint I got from a girl is that she switched to GT due to young types working her pussy too hard to be cashed quicker for more busiess for the long run. Chances are higher that younger guys work their pussy hard. So yeah, depends on the girl. Some may prefer suck and fuck, ok with the hard pounding vs kissing. Some are more open to GFE type experiences and kisses readily more, and hard fuckin is less their thing.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1971514]I am trying to get my head around this. Your proposition is that nice girls will earn more working in a FKK than if they worked as an escort. The earnings of an escort is 1000 and can be up to 4000 euros you provide as a supporting statement. Given the premise of the initial statement then a FKK girls will earn more than 1000 a week and potentially way more 4000 a week giving better earnings than an escort would earn.
The rationale if I may provide one is the escort will work infrequently but the FKK girl will work regularly and be able to have access to a pool of mongers in a club. So the earning potential of a FKK girl who is nice will invariably be better than an escort in general.[/QUOTE]Sorry a nice girl in a FKK will earn 1000 euros a day, so around 15000 to 20000 euros a month for the best one. As an escort it is really an exception to earn the same amount in Germany, I don't know in the other countries. All the German escort I know told me in average they earn 1000 euros per week and 10000 a month is really exceptional. Most of the German escort have a another job, this is mostly required by the agencies.
[QUOTE=Akibono;1971570]What he is not taking into account is many escort girls choose to earn less, even if money is there, because they only choose to go with certain clients. The job can be much less stressful because they are not hunting.
They may actually earn more in the long run because they are able to keep their looks up.[/QUOTE]Sorry if you are escort in a German agency you can t choose your customer, most of them are around 55 to 65 years old, of course when you start the date you can refuse to go further with the customer, but this will work may be one time, 2 times but after the agency will blacklisted you. The escorts I know are struggling to get more dates and not the contrary, you need also to know that the German guys are often complaining about the girls and the agency can blocked the girls for 1 month.
Now I am speaking about the top top escort girls who can have 3 or 4 dates per day but a serious agency will not give so many dates to a girl knowing that she will not be fresh enough for the customers.
Hi guys,
I've been to sharks many times and love the place.
Big fan of Mila.
Does anyone have an idea how line up will look the week before Christmas? When do most of the girls leave?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1971704]Sorry a nice girl in a FKK will earn 1000 euros a day, so around 15000 to 20000 euros a month for the best one. As an escort it is really an exception to earn the same amount in Germany, I don't know in the other countries. All the German escort I know told me in average they earn 1000 euros per week and 10000 a month is really exceptional. Most of the German escort have a another job, this is mostly required by the agencies.[/QUOTE]There's not many girls making 1. 000 every day they work. That's maybe the top 5% at the club.
HB.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1971704]Sorry a nice girl in a FKK will earn 1000 euros a day, so around 15000 to 20000 euros a month for the best one. As an escort it is really an exception to earn the same amount in Germany, I don't know in the other countries. All the German escort I know told me in average they earn 1000 euros per week and 10000 a month is really exceptional. Most of the German escort have a another job, this is mostly required by the agencies.[/QUOTE]I don't understand where you guys get this 1,000 a day number. That happens to may be the best girls, and not every day. To get to such number, you have to believe that they do 10 hours a day of sessions, or have a large percent of their customers take all sorts of extras and average much more than 100 an hour. I am sure some customers do take extras, but I don't think that happens with most, or even a majority of customers. And most certainly, you can't take a thousand a day and multiply by 15 or 20 to derive their monthly income. Even the busiest girls are not making that thousand per day on weekdays, especially early week days.
I see girls are quite desperate and somewhat despondent. Many make a pittance on an hourly basis, after covering their entry fee. They hang around the club for 10 to 12 hours, to make a couple of hundred on most days, net of fee, in my view. I am talking about the average club girl, not the very busy ones.
Perhaps this amount of income like a couple of hundred a day makes sense for a Romanian girl where average incomes are much less for a girl of low skills and education in that nation. But if 15,000 to 20,000 is the sort of income a regular girl can expect, you would have seen a bunch of German girls, not to mention Spanish, Italian and other girls, jumping into these clubs. As it is, most girls are from severely underdeveloped Romania or Bulgaria, and that tells you pretty much everything.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1971704]Sorry a nice girl in a FKK will earn 1000 euros a day, so around 15000 to 20000 euros a month for the best one.[/QUOTE]Which girl can make this at often empty World? About 10 hours in room? Maybe Raοssa on some good days.
Even at Sharks, I don't think more than 5 girls can make 20.000 a month at the moment.
Easier at Globe with rate more expensive than Russian beauties escorts in Paris.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1971635]your German friend[/QUOTE]Seriously, I will ask the question again, which you do not seem to answer, but seem to delight in dangling the comment like cheese on a mouse trap, the question is who is this German friend that you keep mentioning?
To ask again, to be sure, you keep mentioning a German friend, can you explain who is this German person?
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1971863]Seriously, I will ask the question again, which you do not seem to answer, but seem to delight in dangling the comment like cheese on a mouse trap, the question is who is this German friend that you keep mentioning?
To ask again, to be sure, you keep mentioning a German friend, can you explain who is this German person?[/QUOTE]Just remember messages about 5 November, for sure with his behavior, he will never be mine, I have other behavior German friends.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1971775]There's not many girls making 1. 000 every day they work. That's maybe the top 5% at the club.[/QUOTE]Even this seems to be too positive. I doubt that even ONE girl makes EVERY working day 1 k. Maybe the top 5% at the Hessen clubs make 1 k every second or third day. Average daily income for a (Hessen) FKK club girl after entrance, tax and dorm maybe around 300 euro, maybe even lower.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1971874]Even this seems to be too positive. I doubt that even ONE girl makes EVERY working day 1 k. Maybe the top 5% at the Hessen clubs make 1 k every second or third day. Average daily income for a (Hessen) FKK club girl after entrance, tax and dorm maybe around 300 euro, maybe even lower.[/QUOTE]Yes I am speaking about the top one but 300 euros is too low, most of them we get 500 to 600 euros a day, don t forget the Asian customers the regular the guy like me who a not paying 50 euros.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1971615]I just wait for Anja to chat with her about all what was written about her at Sharks, about businessmen. I'm sure she missed her mousy.[/QUOTE]Please deliver a Hello, from me. I will miss her pussycat. Even I am hunting another one now, her fault.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1971867]Just remember messages about 5 November.[/QUOTE]Sir Siri,
As always you seem to be writing some sort of blog or code that only you know the characters. You write for yourself and not for others then expect people to understand your context. At times I am unsure you even understand grammar and puntuaction (sp?
For the sake of my sanity, since you keep linking me to a German friend I do not even know or dare say I have even met anf then you write about it on this forum. So, please explain this imaginary German friend that you have?
Now you bring up something about 5 November? What is that?
Is this a crytic reference to the movie V for Vendetta. Where the quote is, " Remember, Remember, the fifth of November, the gunpowder treason and plot. ".
[QUOTE=HappyFkk;1971896]Please deliver a Hello, from me. I will miss her pussycat. Even I am hunting another one now, her fault.[/QUOTE]I would be happy for her she gets good business at Globe because Anja was a nice challenge, friendly surprise, even You saw how I was not at all in hurry to repeat, I also didn't need to run after my regular, sometimes saying: Next time. I hunt only on first time, then I can hunt for hours, but after, I like girls to return to me, meaning for me they want to repeat, which is important for me to feel better about paid sex, not to feel I force them because they have no business, I don't run after first room. The best is when a busy girl gives You free time, even better in the room, much better when she has to explain to the desk when she gives back the key, we were not in room for full time since she took the key.
Anja may have problem about inspection at Globe, her mousy will see when I will go for my GF Isabella who should be one of my Christmas present.
Have good new hunt, it s FKK life, one lost, another target is born. For my experience, before it was difficult to find a good girl, now I find many around Dόsseldorf and in white chocolate for 3 or 4 CHF country. You should give a look to so slim body, green eyes Maria at LR.
If many girls could make about 20 000 a month, we should have more pretty Russian girls rather than working for Agencies, only a few and not the prettiest in FKK.
[QUOTE=HappyFkk;1971896]Please deliver a Hello, from me. I will miss her pussycat. Even I am hunting another one now, her fault.[/QUOTE]She is badly missed at Sharks. Hope she comes back soon.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1971957]Sir Siri,
As always you seem to be writing some sort of blog or code that only you know the characters. You write for yourself and not for others then expect people to understand your context. At times I am unsure you even understand grammar and puntuaction (sp?
For the sake of my sanity, since you keep linking me to a German friend I do not even know or dare say I have even met anf then you write about it on this forum. So, please explain this imaginary German friend that you have?
Now you bring up something about 5 November? What is that?
Is this a crytic reference to the movie V for Vendetta. Where the quote is, " Remember, Remember, the fifth of November, the gunpowder treason and plot. ".[/QUOTE]You and some others can write what you want on this forum, but you named him in your message about what happened on 5 November? Nothing really interesting, I just stayed until I decided to leave when I understood I would not find a second girl, unfortunately. Some girls also named him when they see his behavior.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1971884]Yes I am speaking about the top one but 300 euros is too low, most of them we get 500 to 600 euros a day, don t forget the Asian customers the regular the guy like me who a not paying 50 euros.[/QUOTE]That is a big over estimate in my opinion. Craiova is closer to the mark. 300 is probably not too low.
Most girls are sitting around with nothing to do for most of the day. There are not enough customers and also not enough rooms.
Anyway estimates are pretty useless. This was proven when guys estimated how many girls were in attendance, and when I listed I typically found 30 to 50% more girls than others estimated.
The way to make an intelligent estimate how many 30 min slots are done by girls, is to survey the number of rooms busy at different times throughout the day in a club with keys (not Sharks), perhaps complicated by VIPs, and also find out the total number of girls that worked, approximately. So the average number of rooms busy divided by the total girls gives what percentage of the time an average girl has a booking. Its not that high, I think. Rooms are very quiet early in the day.
If a girl can get a customer to do 2 hours or more, it makes a huge difference to her earnings. Even blonde Christina ex Oase could give a pretty good GFE with that level of incentive, when she was not so busy.
I was at Sharks on a Friday night. At any given time, a low percentage of girls were in a booking. Most girls do not do a Sylvana type of shift.
Another thing to do is estimate the average customer spend (which maybe difficult due to just a few very high spenders) and see how many customers there were compared to girls. Clearly if the customers are less than the girls, hypothetically, the girls cannot be making much.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1971884]Yes I am speaking about the top one but 300 euros is too low, most of them we get 500 to 600 euros a day, don t forget the Asian customers the regular the guy like me who a not paying 50 euros.[/QUOTE]No they don't. That I know for sure. 300 minus entry, tax and sleeping is not too low, on some days even good looking girls with godo service lose money.
HB.
Nobody knows the real avg. How would you estimate without enough info to go by.
There are ways for better estimates. Total number of girls attended devided by total spent by all customers should be precise.
Some clubs have sign in system with written time when girls go to rooms. That should provide enough info minus extras, tips, etc.
As for anecdote, a girl told me she made nothing on the day. Not too sure if she really made absolutely nothing. But, business seems slow for many girls there. I dunno how girls get by with such competition.
There were some really busy ones like Evita or Milana on my visits, but somebody said not busy on their visit?, so depends on if the right client is there for any of the girls. Hardly saw Evita outside the room, she was occupied by the same punter on two visits. Milana had couple regulars I've been told that did realky long rooms.
It comes down to number of girls to punters throught the day. In further spending habbits. No dependancy on scale of a club. A LR, a girl told me her friend makes 1 k on most days, and striving for that. The situation girls can face is long wait for rooms on peak times.
I recall at GT long ago when waiting for pizza(so up to that time), she complained she only made 600 Euros by then. ONLY.
How many rooms are total at Sharks? At a peak night supposedly 200+ girls, at max I ran into 4 couples waiting upstairs. A girl told me few days before that (assuming Weds), 260 girls. Not sure how true that is.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1972053]Nobody knows the real avg. How would you estimate without enough info to go by.
There are ways for better estimates. Total number of girls attended devided by total spent by all customers should be precise.
Some clubs have sign in system with written time when girls go to rooms. That should provide enough info minus extras, tips, etc.
As for anecdote, a girl told me she made nothing on the day. Not too sure if she really made absolutely nothing. But, business seems slow for many girls there. I dunno how girls get by with such competition.
There were some really busy ones like Evita or Milana on my visits, but somebody said not busy on their visit?, so depends on if the right client is there for any of the girls. Hardly saw Evita outside the room, she was occupied by the same punter on two visits. Milana had couple regulars I've been told that did really long rooms..[/QUOTE]Why are you making the things so complex, if you are a long time FKK monger I think you have a lot of girlfriends in each club so just listen to them and try to conclude for me the best earner is about 3000 euros a day and the lowest are not covering the cost of the entree fee and taxes, but most of the girls are earning around 300 to 600 euros a day, and the top performer today 2000 euros.
[QUOTE=Checkers1;1971975]She is badly missed at Sharks. Hope she comes back soon.[/QUOTE]If Anja really goes to work at Globe, You can have her for 95 for entry with good foods and 140 for the room. You can pay in CHF, , USD, credit card.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1972053]Nobody knows the real avg. How would you estimate without enough info to go by.
There are ways for better estimates. Total number of girls attended devided by total spent by all customers should be precise.
Some clubs have sign in system with written time when girls go to rooms. That should provide enough info minus extras, tips, etc.
As for anecdote, a girl told me she made nothing on the day. Not too sure if she really made absolutely nothing. But, business seems slow for many girls there. I dunno how girls get by with such competition.
There were some really busy ones like Evita or Milana on my visits, but somebody said not busy on their visit?, so depends on if the right client is there for any of the girls. Hardly saw Evita outside the room, she was occupied by the same punter on two visits. Milana had couple regulars I've been told that did realky long rooms..[/QUOTE]About 40 rooms, so about 4000 business per hour. If really 200 girls, 20 per hour for average.
Fortunately for them, some girls are a bit busy.
That's a good point. Leaving out extras (since we can't take account of this), maximum avg would be 40 Rooms * 17 hrs total * 100 Euros.
Divide 200 from that(if so happen there were that many), and you get, 340. Ok, so the avg got to be below that much depending on the day, how busy the place is. That's still excludes extras, not taking account of unoccupied rooms at certain times.
If there were half of that many girls, 680?
If anybody can estimate when rooms are fully occupied and partially(you can shave off some hrs), that would get a stronger figure minus extras.
Anyway, this is rough estimates. Also avg isn't a good indicator. Distribution will provide the insight. Percentages, etc.. Median, whatever. To be precise...
Probably many girls do 15 minute rooms for 50. Or 45 minutes per 100. Guys tend to voluntarily leave after they cum. If so, a room could generate 150 EUR per hour.
Small percentage of sessions are threesomes. Small percentage are kino sessions. Extras etc.
Yeah, to be really precise there are many things to consider. Rooms can generate more Euros per HR.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1972057]Why are you making the things so complex, if you are a long time FKK monger I think you have a lot of girlfriends in each club so just listen to them and try to conclude for me the best earner is about 3000 euros a day and the lowest are not covering the cost of the entree fee and taxes, but most of the girls are earning around 300 to 600 euros a day, and the top performer today 2000 euros.[/QUOTE]These days in Sharks, it is extremely rare for even a super stunner to earn 3000 euros a day, the chance could be once a year!
Per my recent visit of Sharks (November 12), I noticed that several well-known hot girls left club before 1 am. There were at most 12 hours for them staying in club. The pure chargeable time would be 8 hours after deducting overhead time. So the collection money would only be 800 euros without extra for each of these girl, whom were supposed to be very busy.
Here I'd like to give an example to explain the overhead time is actually larger for even a hot girl. I went to room with one such hot girl. I approached to her when she was just available after refresh. In about 10 minutes she finished smoking, we went upstairs around 8 pm. There are 6-7 couples before us. At 8:30 pm we got room. In order to compensate and please her, I extended the secession to 1.5 hours. We finished around 10 pm, she then went back to refresh. I saw her came out around 10:20 pm, and almost immediately an Asian guy came to meet her. They went upstairs around 10:30 pm and started the cycle. I happened to notice that the girl left around 12 am.
So from 7:50 pm to 12 am, the beautiful girl seemed to be with clients all the time, but she only earned 250 euros (apparently the Asian gave her one hour session) in about 4 hours quality time. She started to work around noon as she told me and got four rooms before we met. So I concluded that she earned about 650 - 900 euros in 6 sessions that day. It was Saturday and she stayed in club for about 12 hours.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1972155]Probably many girls do 15 minute rooms for 50. Or 45 minutes per 100. Guys tend to voluntarily leave after they cum. If so, a room could generate 150 EUR per hour.
[/QUOTE]Doesn't really matter for calculating girl's income as they are not constantly booked during a 12 h shift. Number of rooms is what matters. If a 60 min session lasts only 45 or 55 min doesn't matter.
HB.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1972057]Why are you making the things so complex, if you are a long time FKK monger I think you have a lot of girlfriends in each club so just listen to them and try to conclude for me the best earner is about 3000 euros a day and the lowest are not covering the cost of the entree fee and taxes, but most of the girls are earning around 300 to 600 euros a day, and the top performer today 2000 euros.[/QUOTE]You're numbers are way off.
HB.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1972080]If Anja really goes to work at Globe, You can have her for 95 for entry with good foods and 140 for the room. You can pay in CHF, , USD, credit card.[/QUOTE]Can you pay the 95 entry in EUR or USD?
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1972202]Can you pay the 95 entry in EUR or USD?[/QUOTE]I always pay entry with credit card charged 10% , so I don't know. I know for History Basel Liestal where you can pay entry 65 in , but no foods. Excellent brunch on Sunday at Globe.
You can pay girls in or USD.
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1972202]Can you pay the 95 entry in EUR or USD?[/QUOTE]They accept EUR. Don't know about USD.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1972194]Doesn't really matter for calculating girl's income as they are not constantly booked during a 12 h shift. Number of rooms is what matters. If a 60 min session lasts only 45 or 55 min doesn't matter.
HB.[/QUOTE]Correct.
Furthermore, the calculation that a girl makes 150 in an hour because guys finish quickly and leave voluntarily before time is up. These type of calculations ignore the significant down time girls have between sessions. I think this is the reason why girls dislike short 30 min sessions. The walk up and down, fetching new bedsheets before session can begin, and then afterwards getting paid, washing and doing makeup touch, and coming back to hunt for the next customer. All of these add up. Can easily take up 15+ min for every 30 min session.
I ask again. The 1000 x 15 to 20 equals 15,000 to 20,000 euro per month. If you seriously believe such numbers, this profession would be attracting a lot more girls from Western Europe and even from places like Hungary, Poland, etc. As it is, other than girls from dirt poor areas of Romania and Bulgaria, not many are finding these levels of income attractive. The average per capita income in Germany is no more than 4 K to 4.5 K per month and that is for all Germans; and 15,000 would put a worker in the very top echelons of income in Germany.
[QUOTE=JohnEllee;1972190]These days in Sharks, it is extremely rare for even a super stunner to earn 3000 euros a day, the chance could be once a year!
Per my recent visit of Sharks (November 12), I noticed that several well-known hot girls left club before 1 am. There were at most 12 hours for them staying in club. The pure chargeable time would be 8 hours after deducting overhead time. So the collection money would only be 800 euros without extra for each of these girl, whom were supposed to be very busy.
Here I'd like to give an example to explain the overhead time is actually larger for even a hot girl. I went to room with one such hot girl. I approached to her when she was just available after refresh. In about 10 minutes she finished smoking, we went upstairs around 8 pm. There are 6-7 couples before us. At 8:30 pm we got room. In order to compensate and please her, I extended the secession to 1.5 hours. We finished around 10 pm, she then went back to refresh. I saw her came out around 10:20 pm, and almost immediately an Asian guy came to meet her. They went upstairs around 10:30 pm and started the cycle. I happened to notice that the girl left around 12 am.
So from 7:50 pm to 12 am, the beautiful girl seemed to be with clients all the time, but she only earned 250 euros (apparently the Asian gave her one hour session) in about 4 hours quality time. She started to work around noon as she told me and got four rooms before we met. So I concluded that she earned about 650 - 900 euros in 6 sessions that day. It was Saturday and she stayed in club for about 12 hours.[/QUOTE]In conclusion your figures are more or less the same than my figures, 6 sessions 900 euros, some girls do more sessions than that, and the 2000 or 3000 euros per day is really for the top top girls and during fair time in Frankfurt, we should not forget that many foreigners are not paying 50 euros for 30 minutes.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1972216]Correct.
Furthermore, the calculation that a girl makes 150 in an hour because guys finish quickly and leave voluntarily before time is up. These type of calculations ignore the significant down time girls have between sessions. I think this is the reason why girls dislike short 30 min sessions. The walk up and down, fetching new bedsheets before session can begin, and then afterwards getting paid, washing and doing makeup touch, and coming back to hunt for the next customer. All of these add up. Can easily take up 15+ min for every 30 min session.
I ask again. The 1000 x 15 to 20 equals 15,000 to 20,000 euro per month. If you seriously believe such numbers, this profession would be attracting a lot more girls from Western Europe and even from places like Hungary, Poland, etc. As it is, other than girls from dirt poor areas of Romania and Bulgaria, not many are finding these levels of income attractive. The average per capita income in Germany is no more than 4 K to 4.5 K per month and that is for all Germans; and 15,000 would put a worker in the very top echelons of income in Germany.[/QUOTE]Many 30 mn guys are bang bang fucking, like Turkish, sometimes lasting only 15/20 mn. Some kind of clients are only hugging and chatting for hours, not even kissing and no fucking, some girls are specialists for this business. There are slow clients like me who like long foreplay, kissing, licking everywhere, tasting, drinking bitter juice, caressing, to get chicken skin, hard dark nipples and growing clit. For all this, with about only 15/20 mn fucking, so not much longer than bang bang guys, 1 hour is very short time to enjoy to play such foreplay before sex, when I really enjoy, I often stay 1 h 30, so 100/150 versus 50 for pretty same vagina work, but with more wet and opened vagina after foreplay and probably in softly way.
I know a few girls in Germany, even at Aca where 40/30 mn, who make about 4000/5000 a week, but since beginning of 2013, I never heard a girl in Germany saying about more than 1500 on an exceptional day and it was only on 2013 and 2014. I think girls who make 800/1000 a day in Germany now, have a good business day. It means they were about 8/10 hours in room, so at least 12/14 hours staying in the club and full busy, with time between rooms, time to wait for room like at GT or LR, I like this wait with my girl, thinking about what will happen, also social time to introduce, time for breakfast and diner, time to smoke for most or to have a drink.
Of course a top class, not always for behavior on public sex, but sophisticated look, real woman for behavior and skill, ex Hessen superstar, can make about 4000/5000 from Friday to Sunday, some days can make about 2000 , being usually busy at Globe. For one, She and same for my Isabella, just walk around the pole, no need to dance like Stefie who is very good dancer and also good GFE in room.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1972155]Probably many girls do 15 minute rooms for 50. Or 45 minutes per 100. Guys tend to voluntarily leave after they cum. If so, a room could generate 150 EUR per hour.
[/QUOTE]Sounds silly. How to Distort 101. Add back minimum 15 minutes down time (for a busy girl. Not likely as low for 15 min session girls) between sessions and room waits. How many girls can average 150 Euros per hour elapsed time (not fuck time)? Virtually none, even selling lots of extras. I doubt busy Evita can manage that, unless a special customer agrees to a super high rate.
Maybe Lena ex Oase could manage 150 per hour in her heyday with continuous bookings all day from opening time and no room waits and getting ass fucked and / or CIM by many customers. An extreme case.
I have to wonder if girls exaggerate their earnings when talking to some customers, so that customer maybe persuaded into a very high price for an extended booking, more than what he should really being paying to be a fair price. Suppose a customer wants to book the girl for the whole day. The price should be little different to what she normally expects to make in a day, unless he is a fucking machine and should be charged more. So girl has an incentive to exaggerate her typical earnings, rather than have us pity her by understating her earnings. LOL.
[QUOTE=Checkers1;1971975]She is badly missed at Sharks. Hope she comes back soon.[/QUOTE]She left to go to small Worms on Summer when she could go to Globe where girls had good business on last Summer, she left again now. Even she is a really friendly girl who deserves to be known, not only judged about her behavior turning around, she worth better than this, same for Ada, but Anja is really not clever to get business and even she was one of the prettiest, she was not busy even before Summer when there were not 999 girls, so she left again. She seems more used to fast sex or CIM to try to make fast 100 , or playing biting or fighting like children for longer room, than GF behavior. Ada understood faster, on first room, about GF behavior.
Wait and see for Anja, at Globe or on the moon? With her bad tattoo, not sure she gets the best advices around her and not a good point for Globe, but I will know fast, Kate returned to enjoy her so cute life at home, better than sucking dicks in public, and as soon she started, Isabella asked me when I come to kiss her everywhere, so I can manage out of jealousy now, to enjoy.
Those who really know me, would understand, please don't name her, but one of my regular is used to make 3 10/15 mn rooms with one smoking time in 1 hour. I have 1 hour rooms with her, taking all my time and no problem about hygiene with her. She is just a sex Terminator able some Saturdays to have more than 20 rooms.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1972241]In conclusion your figures are more or less the same than my figures, 6 sessions 900 euros, some girls do more sessions than that, and the 2000 or 3000 euros per day is really for the top top girls and during fair time in Frankfurt, we should not forget that many foreigners are not paying 50 euros for 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]As you are a World regular, if you knew Madi, I think most of those who knew her and even I criticized her changing behavior becoming too talkative, but I don t think we can find many classy beauties and GF behavior like her in whole Germany and I can also add at Globe, Wellcum and Andiamo. At, YY and Sixsens. She would be a top girl everywhere, even among Russian escorts in Paris. I don t believe about 200 girls at Sharks with only 40 rooms, but I can mistake, I don't get the truth, but which girls at Sharks at the moment can compete with her for beauty and GFE level? For my tastes, Megan for beauty, but I don t know any one for sensual level, maybe Agnes out of smoking.
As I met Madi a few times during 1 year, on January 2015 when Kitzbόhel and Wengen, I drove to World twice after job on Wednesday evening, arriving about 10/10. 30 pm, she had only 2 rooms with me on these 2 nights, so she got 200 but had to pay entry, 90 at this time on week days. Usually, nearly every week end, I came to her on Saturday, we had 2 or 3 rooms, some Saturdays she had no other room, sometimes only 1 or 2 other rooms, most of time for fast 30 mn, when she did really worth to take time to enjoy her. That was a top class girl business at World, 110 for her for 10 hours working or about 300/400 on Saturday after paying entry, maybe 4000/5000 per month, I was often sad for her, I advised guys to go to meet her, fortunately she lived close and didn't need taxi, but when she was asked to work 5 days a week by management, better for her to retire at 31 yo.
If girls could really make more than 1000 a day, we would have many pretty Russian girls in FKK.
Business level is on Romanian level of life, that's why 90% girls are Romanian and we are lucky to meet them.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1972155]Probably many girls do 15 minute rooms for 50. Or 45 minutes per 100. Guys tend to voluntarily leave after they cum. If so, [b]a room could generate 150 EUR per hour.[/b]
[/QUOTE]I was commenting on the clever formula proposed by Siri: Take the total money transactions for the entire day then divide by number of girls in attendance for that day.
40 rooms * 17 hours * 100 EUR = 68000 EUR per day.
If above amount were evenly distributed among 200 girls in attendance, then the average gross earnings per girl would be 340 EUR.
My point was that a room does not always result in 100 EUR worth of transactions per hour. From 11 AM-2 PM, maybe only 2-4 couples will use that room. But from 8 PM-11 PM, you might see 8-10 couples utilize that room. Cleaning the room only takes two minutes, and it does not happen after each couple leaves. Most customers don't use the max slotted time that they paid for.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1972377]I was commenting on the clever formula proposed by Siri: Take the total money transactions for the entire day then divide by number of girls in attendance for that day.
40 rooms * 17 hours * 100 EUR = 68000 EUR per day.
If above amount were evenly distributed among 200 girls in attendance, then the average gross earnings per girl would be 340 EUR.
My point was that a room does not always result in 100 EUR worth of transactions per hour. From 11 AM-2 PM, maybe only 2-4 couples will use that room. But from 8 PM-11 PM, you might see 8-10 couples utilize that room. Cleaning the room only takes two minutes, and it does not happen after each couple leaves. Most customers don't use the max slotted time that they paid for.[/QUOTE]Your point was far too subtle for me to catch on. LOL. I did not pick up that the room itself was capable of making 150 Euros per hour (without the help of the girl). LOL Was a bit too much lateral thinking for my poor brain.
Most guys misuse the term "rooms" in posts, like a guy booked the girl for x number of "rooms" rather than quote a money figure, so it did not dawn on me you could be using it correctly.
I must admit that I may have used room for only 50 mins out of 1 hour on occasion since I have no watch and may have used 75 mins out of a 90 min slot, even more wastage, but I don't have much handle on frequency of guys only 15 mins in a room. That is a cancel type session for me that goes just 15 mins and is very uncommon. LOL We must also consider the case where the guy thought he was only 30 mins max in the room but girl insists he went 35 mins and has to pay for 60 mins, and she got a CIM bonus to boot, generating 150 Euros in only 35 mins or less of room usage. So we need to factor in extra earnings due to the scamming factor be it time scamming or unwanted services billed.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1972377]40 rooms * 17 hours * 100 EUR = 68000 EUR per day.
If above amount were evenly distributed among 200 girls in attendance, then the average gross earnings per girl would be 340 EUR.
My point was that a room does not always result in 100 EUR worth of transactions per hour. From 11 AM-2 PM, maybe only 2-4 couples will use that room. But from 8 PM-11 PM, you might see 8-10 couples utilize that room. Cleaning the room only takes two minutes, and it does not happen after each couple leaves. Most customers don't use the max slotted time that they paid for.[/QUOTE]An interesting analysis. I don't think girls make as much as some believe they do. In my experience, I have met quite a few girls who I spend a long time in a room with but I only pay a standard 100-200 euro. For someone who didn't know they may think that girl made 400-500 euro from me but they didn't.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1972418]An interesting analysis. I don't think girls make as much as some believe they do. In my experience, I have met quite a few girls who I spend a long time in a room with but I only pay a standard 100-200 euro. For someone who didn't know they may think that girl made 400-500 euro from me but they didn't.[/QUOTE]Yes, at GT or LR, you could have a girl for 4 hours for 225 . At Samya, 4 hours for 300. But in Hessen, did you have attractive girls for 4 hours in room for 100 or 200?
But I really wish some girls can make enough money they need, I hope money made is only for them, not for pimp. But I also often saw really nice girls like Selena, or beauty like Stefi, waiting all day. Even fresh body and mind, smiling cute face with friendly behavior Hungarian Mersi couldn't get business at big Sharks, same for beautiful tits Anja. And Winter is coming, even with winter tires, Germans are stopped in first gear on autobahns.
Anja will return at some point. They all do.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1972337]She left to go to small Worms on Summer when she could go to Globe where girls had good business on last Summer, she left again now. Even she is a really friendly girl who deserves to be known, not only judged about her behavior turning around, she worth better than this, same for Ada, but Anja is really not clever to get business and even she was one of the prettiest, she was not busy even before Summer when there were not 999 girls, so she left again. She seems more used to fast sex or CIM to try to make fast 100 , or playing biting or fighting like children for longer room, than GF behavior. Ada understood faster, on first room, about GF behavior.
Wait and see for Anja, at Globe or on the moon? With her bad tattoo, not sure she gets the best advices around her and not a good point for Globe, but I will know fast, Kate returned to enjoy her so cute life at home, better than sucking dicks in public, and as soon she started, Isabella asked me when I come to kiss her everywhere, so I can manage out of jealousy now, to enjoy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1972430]Yes, at GT or LR, you could have a girl for 4 hours for 225 . At Samya, 4 hours for 300......[/QUOTE]Currently, at GT or LR, the standard rate is 50 euros per 30 min in room with a girl. So for 4 hours in room should be 400 euros. Unless some girls voluntarily give you discount, it couldn't be 225 for 4 HR. At Samya four hours room would cost you 400 euro since September.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1971605]I have always wondered why Isabella was so pathetic in the room when I tried her at Sharks. Perhaps had some reason not to like me, but very few girls ever have been so poor. I cancelled session after about 15 minutes. She clearly did not want me as a customer, yet most others did. Chemistry was obviously shit. I think I was not the only one reporting pathetic performance though. She did not seem to get many regular customers at that time, and seemed very disinterested. Laura / Livia was a little less pathetic but was clearly dick scared when tried her. She wanted to do BBBJ only. LOL.[/QUOTE]We met many same girls at Oase, World, or Sharks, so it was nothing about you, but Isabella is Isabella. Now, she is more woman and understood she is lucky to work at Globe and can't behave in same way, but she refused to go with so many guys. When I first met her on February 2014 at Sharks, with Laura / Livia, they proposed me a threesome, saying they were Italian sisters. After our first room, she never proposed me again to go with her "sister" , she became my weekly regular, when I didn't repeat with Roxana, Cosmina, Dina. She gave me a great birthday. When she moved to World on end of April, many guys came to me when they saw us, to ask about her. As she was not busy, I answered I like her, but when they went to her, she refused to go with so many. I laugh when I read about Anja who went with anybody for only 50, when I asked Isabella why she refused when she said she didn't have good business, she answered: I don't like his face, or he is too old, or too fat, and she preferred to stay not making money than going to room with them. Once she said to me: stop sending me guys, I don't want you say what we do, or I don't go anymore with you. We were like dog and cat, but it was great in room. On mid June 2014, she got an Italian regular and said I exhausted her, so I stopped. On July, she disappeared and no more messages. She went to Andiamo. On beginning of July 2016, when I went to Globe for Kate, I saw a so pretty blond, but I didn't go to her because I went only for Kate. When we came back from room, I saw this beautiful blond coming straight to me smiling, but I didn't recognize her because of her new woman look. I answered I need to recover because I didn't want to go with her, she said: I know you were with the brunette, she told me about my job and my passions, same than blond Liz. De ex Artemis did on Summer 2015, but I couldn't recognize both, Liz because getting weight and Isabella because no more student look, no more glasses, a real woman look. I went to her later, Kate said on October becoming jealous, and more 2 weeks ago when she understood we keep in contact even when Isabella is off in Romania. Had more than 20 rooms, some 2 hours rooms for 560 , with Isabella who really improved to high level and potential for GF illusion and high sporty sex. With her natural beauty, she doesn't need to make up or to shave on day, for Globe control, she will be my first Christmas present, I can't resist to her messages with plenty of little hearts. Soon 3 years.
Day3:
Rainy Afternoon in Frankfurt. Walk across the street to the train station around 2:00 PM and catch the train for Fredrichsdorf (9.50 Euros are / T) and away I go. There is a train every half hour going and coming till 1:00 AM. Arrive at 2:30 PM, show a cab driver the address written on a paper. He smiles and gives me the thumbs up. 20 Minutes later we pull up to a palace built in the middle of farmland Germany. I pay him 10 euros. He smiles and says "it's gut" with another thumbs up.
This place has the same setup as Mainhattan FKK. Towel, bathrobe, slippers, wristband and a wristkey that opens a small lobby locker and a locker in the mens room for your clothes. I arrive early Thursday afternoon and its 50 Euros for the whole shooting match. What a deal. While paying the girl at the front desk. I can see into the first room and the 6-7 girls I can already see are spectacular.
I put my cellphone and wallet in little locker. Change into my towel and slippers and head to the main room where I am immediately set upon by a 6'2" skinny German blond in a leopard dress with the nipples and crotch cut out of her dress. She is spectacular. She speaks English and gives me a tour of the facility. In the fall and winter. The common areas are basically restricted to three areas I. E. The main room with bar, porno movie area and open dance area with stripper pole in the middle. Another turn and you are in a bar area and off to the side is the dining area. It is a pity it is cold because there is an outdoor area that would be clearly fun for outdoor activities in the summer.
The price structure is essentially the same: 50 Euros for a half hour of suck and fuck with one girl. Everything else is an upgrade usually escalating in price by 50 Euros for various fetishes, activities and time.
So here is the rundown of my activities:
I take the Amazon 23 YO tall thin German Blond back for a 50 Euro warm-up. Simply because she was good looking and took the time to show me around the place. The sex is standard fare. Though her BBBJ was an 8 on my blow job scale. I cum on her tits and face because if you shoot a load in her mouth. Another 50 Euros. Not really worth it. But she's very good looking and the cum dripping off her glasses was a great visual:-the.
I hit the bar and I'm joined by 3 Israeli guys in their late 40's who are taking turns fucking this gorgeous 28 YO Romanian Blond. Every half hour one of them comes out and she drags another one back to the private room with her. They say she is excellent and likes to get fucked in the ass. One guy Avi tells me the girls here are spectacular looking but whatever I do. Not to miss FKK Sharks.
Its now 5 PM and everything stops as 30 gorgeous girls queue up for dinner. There is literally a wave of gorgeous tits and pussy lining up for dinner and dragging me and the Israeli crew with them. We sit with 4 20-22 YO Romanian girls who are simply stunning all 8's and 9's. I'm now throwing down the Jack Daniels and little head is completely taking over. Raina and Irana from Bucharest 2 gorgeous 20 YO's both blond, both natural see-cups, drag me to the private room for an hour. Its totally nuts as I get blown by one while the other is licking the others pussy. Its just body fluids everywhere. I fuck them both. And then finish the hour with them trading my cock between their mouths. With Raina finally jerking Junior off all over Irana's Face. Another great visual. I exit and pay them both 150 Euros for the hour. They are ecstatic and I get kissed all over in the lobby.
I'm beat now. About 8 PM I run into the Thai masseuse and head for one of the best massages I've ever had. It was great and I'm ready for one more.
I'm ready to head out and I see this gorgeous 19 YO Moldavian girl with perfect puffy nipple natural see-cups. She is a total 10 and if she lived in the US she'd be commanding $500+ in NYC. To make a long story short. I take her back and give her a 50 Euro fucking for a half hour. But honestly, I'm running on fumes. And I nut one drop even though I'm loaded up with Cialis. The dick is willing but I'm out of gas.
Its 10:30 PM. I'm full, I'm half drunk and I don't have a drop of jizz left in my balls.
A last note. This place is incredible. Frankly the worst looking girl here was a 7 and that was because she was 30 YO and had fake cans. I don't think I've seen so many 9's and 10's in one spot in my life. Until.
[QUOTE=MikeMark;1972548]
I cum on her tits and face because if you shoot a load in her mouth. Another 50 Euros. Not really worth it. But she's very good looking and the cum dripping off her glasses was a great visual:-the.
And then finish the hour with them trading my cock between their mouths. With Raina finally jerking Junior off all over Irana's Face. Another great visual. I exit and pay them both 150 Euros for the hour. They are ecstatic and I get kissed all over in the lobby.
[/QUOTE]Either you had a lot of luck with your girls or the girls gave you happy hour prices. Cum on body usually also cost extra and cum on face always cost same additional 50 euro like CIM so you saved here 50 euro.
And your one hour threesome session with lesbian show and one COF cost usually in total 350 euro.
[QUOTE=MikeMark;1972548]Day3:
Rainy Afternoon in Frankfurt. Walk across the street to the train station around 2:00 PM and catch the train for Fredrichsdorf (9.50 Euros are / T) and away I go. There is a train every half hour going and coming till 1:00 AM. Arrive at 2:30 PM, show a cab driver the address written on a paper. He smiles and gives me the thumbs up. 20 Minutes later we pull up to a palace built in the middle of farmland Germany. I pay him 10 euros. He smiles and says "it's gut" with another thumbs up.
This place has the same setup as Mainhattan FKK. Towel, bathrobe, slippers, wristband and a wristkey that opens a small lobby locker and a locker in the mens room for your clothes. I arrive early Thursday afternoon and its 50 Euros for the whole shooting match. What a deal. While paying the girl at the front desk. I can see into the first room and the 6-7 girls I can already see are spectacular.
I put my cellphone and wallet in little locker. Change into my towel and slippers and head to the main room where I am immediately set upon by a 6'2" skinny German blond in a leopard dress with the nipples and crotch cut out of her dress. She is spectacular..[/QUOTE]Oase visit, not at Sharks.
I second the thought given here lately that the Sharks lineup has fallen. I am not impressed. Yes, Mandy is around, Erica is here. Senna etc, optic Estelle. But lots of girls are missing. More than I can count. And replacements are hardly more than mediocre. Oase has a better lineup right now.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1972600]Either you had a lot of luck with your girls or the girls gave you happy hour prices. Cum on body usually also cost extra and cum on face always cost same additional 50 euro like CIM so you saved here 50 euro.[/QUOTE]He paid 50 extra for COF. He just said that the 50 for CIM aren't worth it for him.
HB.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1972720]I second the thought given here lately that the Sharks lineup has fallen. I am not impressed. Yes, Mandy is around, Erica is here. Senna etc, optic Estelle. But lots of girls are missing. More than I can count. And replacements are hardly more than mediocre. Oase has a better lineup right now.[/QUOTE]If you mean blond Erika with tattoos, I''m happy for her, she should become a superstar at Sharks with her high level for services. You should be happy with Mandy at least.
Management want to make money with girls entry, they are not clever enough to understand GND quantity kill quality for regular clients, they will see what will become future, when Oase is trying to improve after falling.
The new name of Anja is Tina.
She'll remain in Zurich at least this year.
Next year? Who knows?
[QUOTE=Checkers1;1972480]Anja will return at some point. They all do.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pistons;1972720]I second the thought given here lately that the Sharks lineup has fallen. I am not impressed. Yes, Mandy is around, Erica is here. Senna etc, optic Estelle. But lots of girls are missing. More than I can count. And replacements are hardly more than mediocre. Oase has a better lineup right now.[/QUOTE]Super skinny Erica with tats below her ass? Guess its normal gals go back home to celebrate Christmas also bc people have to do Christmas shopping so no time nor money to hunt for angels.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1972741]
Management want to make money with girls entry, they are not clever enough to understand GND quantity kill quality for regular clients, they will see what will become future, when Oase is trying to improve after falling.[/QUOTE]Well said Sir Sirioja. I didn't see the promised 200 girls but I was not impressed with the quality. Guess sooner or later the bubble's going to burst.
At Sharks today also. Really having a hard time getting a rise here. There is one cute hungarian I haven't talked to yet though. But aside from that all the new ones I could have given an easy pass. Really wonder what's going on. Maybe it is just December being a terrible month. Then again, Oase seems to have held on to their top girls somehow.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1972887]At Sharks today also. Really having a hard time getting a rise here. There is one cute hungarian I haven't talked to yet though. But aside from that all the new ones I could have given an easy pass. Really wonder what's going on. Maybe it is just December being a terrible month. Then again, Oase seems to have held on to their top girls somehow.[/QUOTE]Line up is pathetic at the moment. Where have all the Stunners gone?
[QUOTE=MikeMark;1972548]
Its now 5 PM and everything stops as 30 gorgeous girls queue up for dinner. There is literally a wave of gorgeous tits and pussy lining up for dinner and dragging me and the Israeli crew with them.
A last note. This place is incredible. Frankly the worst looking girl here was a 7 and that was because she was 30 YO and had fake cans. I don't think I've seen so many 9's and 10's in one spot in my life. Until.[/QUOTE]You saw completely naked girls without towels lining up for dinner in the dinning room of FKK Oase. I have to ask other FKK Oase regulars to verify what you saw. LOL. AFAIK, there are quite a few Oase girls way below 7 in face and body department.
[QUOTE=CarpeViam;1972815]The new name of Anja is Tina.
She'll remain in Zurich at least this year.
Next year? Who knows?[/QUOTE]Two girls I don't think I have witnessed are likely Karin and Anja. People have said Karin is likely more if my type, but my visits always seem to have missed her. With the hype with the girl's optiks, I like to see what the hubbub is about.
Then again, Anja may hve been present on my visits. There has been times a buddy told me I talked to a specific girl that has some hype to find out I talked to her. LOL.
For service, Mandy was great. Optically not so much. GND. Sandra is more of my type optically. She looked Ro to me. Doesn't she have Italian roots?
Milana had the stature I usually go for. Facially wasn't an easy pick, but also was pretty occupied. Probably wouldn't have noticed if wasn't pointed out. Could have been a higher option than others I've gone with, would have been easier if she was more free. Initial impression is facially she looks agressive, but given her service rep, superfical assumptions on my part.
Somebody pointed out Moira to know who she was and probably didn't notice her.
Knowing frequent attenders helps in being aware of some girls you'd otherwise not meet.
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1972202]Can you pay the 95 entry in EUR or USD?[/QUOTE]Globe entry is 100 in cash. Can also pay girls in . History Basel Liestal entry is 65 and 99/30 mn, 149 for 45 mn.
No Anja seen. Ex Jessika silicon is Micky, can check with her belly piercing. Since 2014, she knows me, really friendly girl.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1972872]Super skinny Erica with tats below her ass? Guess its normal gals go back home to celebrate Christmas also bc people have to do Christmas shopping so no time nor money to hunt for angels.[/QUOTE]He probably means this Erica / Erika blond Ro who gives fantastic service. Several Ericas probably has worked at Sharks. Not skinny. This one is tall, pretty, blue eyed blond, and can be very GFE. She may have done a short stint at Sharks and then moved on to Oceans, LR/GT.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;1875355]It is interesting to see how some girls build reputation in the club. First time and saw Erica (tall slim blond with large round ear rings and v-shaped tattoo over the neck and at another tattoo on the waist).
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Well actually I ment the heart tatoo below buttcheeks Erica Exodus was talking about. But as I rescanned the place today I noticed I was misstaking her for some other girl. And the young cute new 'hungarian' was romanian apparently. Brown hair. Named Melek. Ditched me for some asian dude. I guess as some asian hunters disappears, new ones grow up... Might have ended up on my blacklist for doing that. Not sure yet. Have to consult the cards.
Other girls present this week was Ada with reduced group, Julia, Patricia, Megan, Janine... Marlyn was there on wednesday. a certain blonde that worked at Oceans (Celina as Oceans) for 2 months were back at Sharks. Alexa from Oase was there. Liz was there. A new Raluca was there. Lots of random 5-7s... forgot most names...
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1972946]You saw completely naked girls without towels lining up for dinner in the dinning room of FKK Oase. I have to ask other FKK Oase regulars to verify what you saw. LOL. AFAIK, there are quite a few Oase girls way below 7 in face and body department.[/QUOTE]This seems to be the Sharks Thread. I guess your questions did not need answering.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1973041]And the young cute new 'hungarian' was romanian apparently. Brown hair. Named Melek. Ditched me for some asian dude. I guess as some asian hunters disappears, new ones grow up... [/QUOTE]Another Asian killer? I haven't seen so many Asians to be killed on my visits there. Hmmm. Not as much as Oase. Evita got a good one(finally saw them come out of the room after hrs and hrs). LOL.
Tatiana isn't your type?
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1973046]Another Asian killer? I haven't seen so many Asians to be killed on my visits there. Hmmm. Not as much as Oase. Asian targets seemed scarce, and Evita got a good one(finally saw them come out of the room after hrs and hrs). LOL.
Tatiana isn't your type?[/QUOTE]Don't know tatiana at sharks. Might have heard, but name didn't stick.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1973047]Don't know tatiana at sharks. Might have heard, but name didn't stick.[/QUOTE]Sonia, ex-Oase. Would have thought she'd be your type.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1973046]Another Asian killer? I haven't seen so many Asians to be killed on my visits there. Hmmm. Not as much as Oase. Evita got a good one(finally saw them come out of the room after hrs and hrs). LOL.
Tatiana isn't your type?[/QUOTE]A few there and I sometimes point them out to girls bothering me so they can hunt them instead, LOL.
Evita going to suck that one dry 4 sure. She's nice enough to let her buddy Cosmina earn some money as well. Poor dude must be rly emotionally invested as he only gets fucking 2 girls while spending big bucks.
Worst part Evita isn't even that good looking anymore.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1973048]Sonia, ex-Oase. Would have thought she'd be your type.[/QUOTE]Don't know Sonia from Oase either. But I was terrible at scanning Sharks for who's who this trip. Too many new ones. Or girls I've seen before that just arent my spec. Though there was this cute short ex Artemis girl that I forgot the name of also.
Agreed with Exodus. I have found all the previous asian hunters at Sharks to be overrated and low on looks for my taste (evita, ariana, even cosmina wasnt that hot). But it might start bothering me a bit if a hot one gets into that thing now as some are gone...
Well, Evita isn't as slim as she were in the past. She was slimmer during early mid this year from what I recall. Put on some kilos since then?
I think her look facially is a draw for a lot of Asians with the feminine slim (less now) figure. Her charm, personality as well. Asians probably go for cute types, and less aggressive type personalities. I can see Cosmina being popular with Asians as well.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1973055]Don't know Sonia from Oase either. But I was terrible at scanning Sharks for who's who this trip. Too many new ones. Or girls I've seen before that just arent my spec. Though there was this cute short ex Artemis girl that I forgot the name of also.
Agreed with Exodus. I have found all the previous asian hunters at Sharks to be overrated and low on looks for my taste (evita, ariana, even cosmina wasnt that hot). But it might start bothering me a bit if a hot one gets into that thing now as some are gone...[/QUOTE]The ex artemis girl used to a shark. Her friend at Sharks is pretty but prolly also a shark, LOL.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1973057]Well, Evita isn't as slim as she were in the past. She was slimmer during early mid this year from what I recall. Put on some kilos since then?
I think her look facially is a draw for a lot of Asians with the feminine slim (less now) figure. Her charm, personality as well.[/QUOTE]She isn't as slim but for me is about her face. Guess her wider face put me off. Agree she got a good personality but Adele (oase) is on another league, hehe.
Cosmina with ponytails was very popular with some japs as i recall
[QUOTE=Exodus8;1973061] but Adele (oase) is on another league, hehe.[/QUOTE]Guessing you mean tall 2 meter Adele (oase)? Didn't know you also were into giraffs. This forum is too divided.