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[QUOTE=YetAnotherGuy;1945980]I agree, 2 always sounds good in theory, but in practice they end up spending more time talking with each other than having fun with you. I think they also put a damper on each other, neither wants to look like they're putting out too much for a client in front of the other.[/QUOTE]That's a good analysis. I totally agree. And more than 2 is even worse. I took 4 girls home one time and absolutely regretted it. They spent more time chatting with each other than servicing me. I ended up locking 2 of them out of the bedroom while I had sex with the other 2. Then I switched the 2 I just had for the 2 I had locked out before and locked out the 2nd two. Haha.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1945642]Great!

BTW, did you read his reaction?[/QUOTE]I read it. I think he enjoyed the humor.

Ya, TC, Today's Country, and Tiara Ceria are all names for the one same place that is already closed. I never really liked that place. I did have one memorable experience there though. I went with my brother, and as we walked in, it was pitch black (as usual there). We couldn't see 2 inches in front of our face (as usual there). We had both forgotten to bring small flashlights and that was before the days of phones having lights bright enough to help. As we walked in, a couple of girls grabbed us and came and sat us down and stayed with us. We had no idea whatsoever what these girls looked like. I grabbed my girl and we stumbled through the crowd back towards the bathroom (where there was some light so I could see what she looked like). She didn't look bad at all, so I was thinking we were alright (or at least I was alright). We went back to where were were originally seated and I told my brother to take his girl to the bathroom so he could see what she looked like. He said he wasn't worried about it because she felt good. We both ended up making out with our girls there in the dark. About a half hour later, the mamasan came by with a flashlight and shone it on the face of my brother's girl. I still have nightmares of that face. I am surprised he didn't have to seek therapy after that. He immediately cast her aside and wanted to leave. He won't ever talk about it. Good times!

[QUOTE=YetAnotherGuy;1945978]I agree that Alexis is a way nicer place to deal with than Malioboro.[/QUOTE]Have you ever tried to get a taxi out of Alexis at rush hour? It's a nightmare.

An ex-pat friend of mine who lives in Jakarta reported to me one of his friends said based on what he heard from another friend there was a recent immigration sweep in Blok M, maybe at Top Gun, where they herded up the customers there and those who did not have original passports or Indonesian identification cards were given the choice of paying 25 million rupiah or spending the night at the station, which many ended up doing. I'm not sure, but there may have even been a requirement of a passport and an Indonesian ID. Card if one were an expat foreigner.

I was a bit skeptical (although we also have a report here in this thread of some similar actions by immigration taken outside one of the Novotel hotels recently). I did some internet research, and did stumble on a forum that essentially describes what my friend described, although the raid mentioned there was in June or late May. I don't know if the two events were one and the same. [URL]http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.org/forum/general/politics-current-events/55661-indonesian-govt-tightens-watch-on-foreigners/page2[/URL] The most significant posts begin at post #13.

I don't know anything about that forum but it doesn't strike me as bogus (but who knows). In any event, does anyone have anything to add to what appears to be a rather dire event and possible trend?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1946235]Have you ever tried to get a taxi out of Alexis at rush hour? It's a nightmare.[/QUOTE]True.

Patience isn't just a virtue in Jakarta, it's a necessity, since anything else is pretty much futile.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1946378]... there was a recent immigration sweep in Blok M, maybe at Top Gun, where they herded up the customers there and those who did not have original passports or Indonesian identification cards were given the choice of paying 25 million rupiah or spending the night at the station, .....In any event, does anyone have anything to add to what appears to be a rather dire event and possible trend?[/QUOTE]There does appear to be a clear trend of random Immigration Raids within the city, where they will detain you for not carrying a passport:

[URL]https://www.pressreader.com/indonesia/the-jakarta-post/20160804/281689729190798[/URL]

I"ve had this confirmed by at least one other source. Lets see what our resident KnowItAll / Asshole / Loser here has to say about not carrying your passport in the city.

[QUOTE=Lost99;1946401]There does appear to be a clear trend of random Immigration Raids within the city, where they will detain you for not carrying a passport:

[URL]https://www.pressreader.com/indonesia/the-jakarta-post/20160804/281689729190798[/URL]

I"ve had this confirmed by at least one other source. Lets see what our resident KnowItAll / Asshole / Loser here has to say about not carrying your passport in the city.[/QUOTE]Well, it is interesting that he said about a year ago I had no credibility on this board because I carried my passport with me while in Jakarta. He has since admitted the reason he does not do so himself is because he would likely lose his passport owing to the fact he is usually drunk while traveling around the city. It made me wonder the state of his intoxication when he does post some of his negative posts here.

In any event, I also wonder how many of those who were caught up in the Blok M raid without their passport were in that position because they were following his advice posted here about not carrying such documentation while in Jakarta, advice that would have cost them either 25 million rupiah, or a night in a virtual jail.

I had totally opposite experience on two occasions back to back, I was recently in Jakarta and based on my experience the places which are old are better then the newer ones like in case of Alexis. I found Alexis girls to be arrogant and had to bolt out of that place within few minutes!

Tried Malio since it was near to my hotel and this place is definitely not as slick as Alexis but this time I wanted to avoid locals and go for CIS and believe you me they are slightly expensive but the performances both time just blew my mind! Malio has special place and is at top of my list to monger in Jakarta. Both girls get 11/10 on performance and attitude and being as natural as one can get.

Fortunately, I did not get ripped off at the 2nd level counter or at the ground level. The Security guards do ask for tips which I politely refused and they were fine. After my 2nd time, I was chatting with this girl and asked her how was Alexis, she said it was good but girls won't treat you good since most of the people would want to go there as it was fairly new and slick so attitude of the girls is a problem. In Malio, the CIS girls would get 1 customer in 3 days, they need to sit and parade their ass daily without anyone picking them up. Believe me there few stunners who would not get picked up. So these girls are kinda fresh and perform to please.

Totally my PoV and my experience and would definitely go back for CIS there. Locals are every where.

Stay Safe, Bang Safe.

Static.

[QUOTE=Jwolf96;1944875]Lived in Asia 15+ years and done the rounds of all the usual places, in Jakarta been through Alexis, CJs, BATS, etc. But last night finally made my way to Malioboro, unfortunately. Found the girls very marginal in quality when compared with places like Alexis. Mama-san was nice enough and brought the girls over. I planned to take 2 girls, picked one and then another and was then greeted with the usual 'they need to pick their friends so they can work well together'. So, I let one of the girls pick her 'friend' and we went off to the room. On the way we need to stop at the desk to get condoms. Condom charge is rp100 k for 2 condoms. Turns out these are Asian sized condoms, very small and too tight around the cock. So if you go, bring your own condoms!

The room was quite nice actually, but that was the end of the joy. Girl #1 says her friend has never been with a Bule before and is fearful of the size of my cock. I'm thinking 'why did you insist on bringing her with us then?' We showered and got on the bed, and then the condom came out for the blowjob. Nothing more erection killing than getting a blowjob with a condom. So eventually I fuck girl #1, and it's very much like a starfish. Then I move on to #2, the one who had never been fucked by a Bule. First, she tries to dodge giving the blowjob, but I insist I want to see her slutty Indonesian lips wrapped around my cock. She gives in and sucks my cock for a brief while. With condom. Now I'm moving to position to fuck her, and the bahasa is flying fast and furious between the girls. Girl #1 asks if I just want to fuck her again and finish in her because her friend is worried about the size of my cock. Again, why bring her in to this is she doesn't want Bule cock? Well, I was having none of it, so I turned Girl #2 over on her stomach, grabbed under her hips on each side and pulled her ass cheeks firmly against my hips so that my cock went right up her pussy. I proceeded to fuck her good and deep so that she'll remember Bule cock!

So at the end the girls each ask for a tip, and I'm assuming that is normal as in the other places like this and I tip each girl. Then I start to go downstairs to leave back to Shangri La and BATS as quickly as possible after this soulless fuck session. As I reach the staircase, the guy sitting there asks for a tip, and also the random guy sitting next to him. Typical BS that he keeps the rooms in order, so I tip them both and as I start down that stairs, they say also their other friend needs a tip. Complete BS at this point, but it gets better. I go to the front desk to settle my bill and it has condoms on the bill. I tell them I paid the woman upstairs because she said it was cash for condoms. 'No' they tell me, 'you shouldn't pay cash for the condoms'. Screw it, at this point, I just want to leave. Now as I head out the door, there are 2 security guys, some other random dude in a uniform and a woman, and they all ask for tips, making it very clear I won't be getting out the door without giving tips. I tip all those assholes and literally as I'm getting in the taxi, the security guy holding open the taxi door asks for a tip and won't close the door until I give it to him. The taxi driver is actually laughing about the situation.

Never again, period, never. All these years in Asia and I thought I had seen all the BS, but Malioboro now holds a special place in my heart for being a complete waste. Makes Alexis look like the Magic Kingdom. I was so happy to get back to BATS (where I never should have strayed from!) find a sexy Indonesian party girl and get completely pampered by Asian sexiness in the comfort of my hotel room!

I have pics and video of the BATS girl sucking my cock. I'll post those soon![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jwolf96;1944875]Lived in Asia 15+ years and done the rounds of all the usual places, in Jakarta been through Alexis, CJs, BATS, etc. But last night finally made my way to Malioboro, unfortunately. Found the girls very marginal in quality when compared with places like Alexis. Mama-san was nice enough and brought the girls over. I planned to take 2 girls, picked one and then another and was then greeted with the usual 'they need to pick their friends so they can work well together'. So, I let one of the girls pick her 'friend' and we went off to the room. On the way we need to stop at the desk to get condoms. Condom charge is rp100 k for 2 condoms. Turns out these are Asian sized condoms, very small and too tight around the cock. So if you go, bring your own condoms!

The room was quite nice actually, but that was the end of the joy. Girl #1 says her friend has never been with a Bule before and is fearful of the size of my cock. I'm thinking 'why did you insist on bringing her with us then?' We showered and got on the bed, and then the condom came out for the blowjob. Nothing more erection killing than getting a blowjob with a condom. So eventually I fuck girl #1, and it's very much like a starfish. Then I move on to #2, the one who had never been fucked by a Bule. First, she tries to dodge giving the blowjob, but I insist I want to see her slutty Indonesian lips wrapped around my cock. She gives in and sucks my cock for a brief while. With condom. Now I'm moving to position to fuck her, and the bahasa is flying fast and furious between the girls. Girl #1 asks if I just want to fuck her again and finish in her because her friend is worried about the size of my cock. Again, why bring her in to this is she doesn't want Bule cock? Well, I was having none of it, so I turned Girl #2 over on her stomach, grabbed under her hips on each side and pulled her ass cheeks firmly against my hips so that my cock went right up her pussy. I proceeded to fuck her good and deep so that she'll remember Bule cock!

So at the end the girls each ask for a tip, and I'm assuming that is normal as in the other places like this and I tip each girl. Then I start to go downstairs to leave back to Shangri La and BATS as quickly as possible after this soulless fuck session. As I reach the staircase, the guy sitting there asks for a tip, and also the random guy sitting next to him. Typical BS that he keeps the rooms in order, so I tip them both and as I start down that stairs, they say also their other friend needs a tip. Complete BS at this point, but it gets better. I go to the front desk to settle my bill and it has condoms on the bill. I tell them I paid the woman upstairs because she said it was cash for condoms. 'No' they tell me, 'you shouldn't pay cash for the condoms'. Screw it, at this point, I just want to leave. Now as I head out the door, there are 2 security guys, some other random dude in a uniform and a woman, and they all ask for tips, making it very clear I won't be getting out the door without giving tips. I tip all those assholes and literally as I'm getting in the taxi, the security guy holding open the taxi door asks for a tip and won't close the door until I give it to him. The taxi driver is actually laughing about the situation.

Never again, period, never. All these years in Asia and I thought I had seen all the BS, but Malioboro now holds a special place in my heart for being a complete waste. Makes Alexis look like the Magic Kingdom. I was so happy to get back to BATS (where I never should have strayed from!) find a sexy Indonesian party girl and get completely pampered by Asian sexiness in the comfort of my hotel room!

I have pics and video of the BATS girl sucking my cock. I'll post those soon![/QUOTE]Ha ha, that's a funny story. The word would have been spreading like wildfire that there was a tipper coming down the stairs. Quick, straighten that collar, a quick practise flash of that special toothy smile that Indonesians reserve for bule, "OK, here he comes".

You guys need to treat this one like the theatre that it is. Draw yourself up to your full scowling height and give the tip requester your best "Did you just fart" look. That will be the end of the matter.

That is not to say that you shouldn't tip. Tipping is cultural in Indonesia and can play an important part in things but it is done discreetly with a folded up note with little dialogue. Say to the guy cleaning the toilet or to somebody who has helped you out. It can make a difference.

OS.

[URL]https://goo.gl/A6XCa5[/URL] This is a link to a a rather provactive article regarding where Classic, Travel, King Cross and Maliboro get lots of their girls from. This is the first time I read it but its been around for a few years and I don't know if its been discussed about before. It does make you want to make sure you have a condom on for full service; however, I do know of someone who just got back from there and batted 5 out of 6 for sticking it in without one. Anyway will be back there in the middle of October with two friends who actually intend to stay at Classic for their entire visit to Jakarta. What can I say I'm not perfect.

While I was booking my room at Grand Mercure Jakarta Harmoni, I found out that this hotel has "men's only" spa at 5th floor. It is called Sparadise Spa Harmoni. Have anyone tried this spa? Could you share some info?

[QUOTE=Intois;1947134]While I was booking my room at Grand Mercure Jakarta Harmoni, I found out that this hotel has "men's only" spa at 5th floor. It is called Sparadise Spa Harmoni. Have anyone tried this spa? Could you share some info?[/QUOTE]You look through pictures of girls on a computer monitor, and pick a number. If you are lucky, you will get a girl who looks similar to the picture. She will then lead you back to a private room with a shower and a mattress for doing the massage. After the massage comes the negotiation with the girl for any extras, watch out for sticker shock! 500 k for topless he seems to be standard. You could probably negotiate for more extras if the girl likes you.

Afterwards, you take the elevator at the back of the building down to the carpark, so there's no walk of shame through the lobby.

[QUOTE=Intois;1947134]While I was booking my room at Grand Mercure Jakarta Harmoni, I found out that this hotel has "men's only" spa at 5th floor. It is called Sparadise Spa Harmoni. Have anyone tried this spa? Could you share some info?[/QUOTE]I stayed at the Grand Mercure Jakarta Harmoni October 2015 as the previous member mentioned you will be able to choose the girl from a computer monitor and the photos can be typical 'selfies' and photos with 'soft' filters to make the women look a bit younger and try to blur the flaws away. Of course not all the girls are available and it did seem the prettier ones were booked already.

I was going for the HJ only and was not offered any 'extras' by the girl. Last year's price was 330 K+tax (normal room) and everyday from 11 am-5 pm is happy hour so the price is reduced to 290 K+tax- but pricing may have changed in 2016. As I know the price includes massage + HJ only. The normal room had a shower inside and was very clean.

The Jakarta Post reported today that Mille's has been closed by authorities after another case of drug use was discovered. This time a policeman was the culprit.

Surprise, surprise.

Regards,

Ko.

[QUOTE=KoperenKlaas;1948639]The Jakarta Post reported today that Mille's has been closed by authorities after another case of drug use was discovered. This time a policeman was the culprit.

Surprise, surprise.

Regards,

Ko.[/QUOTE]Shocking. Who would have thought there were some people doing drugs at that place?

I never went there anyway.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1948867]Shocking. Who would have thought there were some people doing drugs at that place?

I never went there anyway.[/QUOTE]Correction to my previous post:

ADj. Comm. Sunarto was arrested for using drugs on October 8. The closing date of Mille's is yet to be decided.

Sounds to me like the negotiations have started.

Regards,

Ko

Following the interesting post about the excessive tip seeking of staff at places like Classic I had a couple of experiences in the past few days that have really made me change my attitude to tipping and service standards.

Previously I would have been free with the tips, I worked in my youth in the service industry and I know what a difference tips can make, not just to a server's income but also to his or her standards of service. There was a link and given that a) we are not talking about huge sums in relative terms and b) I don't want to come across as a cheap charlie in an environment where men are after all judged on their ability to provide cash to attractive young women I was open with my wallet.

However that has changed and I am now coming around to my wife's contemptuous opinion of my freeness with tips to everyone from the waiter at dinner to the valet parker. She has always claimed it didn't make a blind bit of difference and all I did was come across as a naive soft touch, I think (as so often when it comes to my better half) she may have a point.

Let me explain. I was in Classic the other night. The dancers were working the floor and one quite fit tall girl came to my table. She was enthusiastic, allowed my hands to roam freely and also groped me in the appropriate places. In no time flat she had run up 10 shots (Rp 35 k ea) and I called it quits. As is customary in Classic when you hit 10 drinks a floor manager comes over to confirm you ran up the bill and have no objection, I hadn't and signed accordingly. The dancer gave me a slobbering kiss and then opened her panties for a tip, which I provided. All told maybe a couple of minutes, I didn't mind the bill I had run up, I'm a big boy I know the form. I didn't think I had bought the right to her undying affection, she worked the session well and each of us were satisfied with the results of the transaction.

But shortly thereafter I witnessed something that soured me very rapidly. At the table next to mine were seated two ethnic Chinese gentlemen. She worked one of them hard, giving him the same treatment I got, with one exception, she spent at least 15 minutes with him, and was much, much more forceful, mounting him, pulling her panties down to knee length, and as I watched I noted that he too had run up 10 drinks. The slight resentment that I felt at the difference in time and service erupted into outrage when I saw what happened next.

He called it quits and the floor manager came over to confirm the bill and this is when my eyes went out in stalks. He casually counted out the empty glasses, kept four at his place and pushed six over to the manager. He was negotiating the bill, willing to pay for four but not all 10. Now at this point where I come from two large bullet-headed bouncers arrive at the table and end negotiations promptly, but not here. The dancer and the manager got into mock-angry haggling with the bloke as you might see at a vegetable market. The bill went back and forth, the glasses were slid around the table for a good 20 minutes before they settled on six glasses (as one suspects they all knew they would).

Now I have no problem with what the bloke did, good luck to him, it is part of his culture never paying the first price offered. He showed an admirably business-like demeanor as he got his way doing something which no bule guy would ever have the effrontery to do (and why China will be ruling the world in 50 years time). What I objected to was the dancer's attitude, she stood there, panties down, topless, cajoling him, grabbing his hand and thrusting it to her crotch, hugging him, and when the deal was agreed smiling broadly and giving him a big kiss. He in other words had got the equivalent of 20 times the dance I had got for 60% of the price.

That gentlemen sums up how we western guys are viewed. We are cash cows, who can be given a perfunctory service in the knowledge that we will over pay and then tip handsomely before moving on to work the real tough jobs, the local guys and especially Chinese men, who will need a really top-notch performance but who will still pay less money.

Bear that in mind the next time you guiltily hand over a tip even though you weren't particularly happy with the service, think of the Chinese guy in the next room who is working his girl like billy-oh knowing he won't be paying as much as you.

I've written enough, I'll mention the other experience later.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1946450]Well, it is interesting that he said about a year ago I had no credibility on this board because I carried my passport with me while in Jakarta. He has since admitted the reason he does not do so himself is because he would likely lose his passport owing to the fact he is usually drunk while traveling around the city. It made me wonder the state of his intoxication when he does post some of his negative posts here.

In any event, I also wonder how many of those who were caught up in the Blok M raid without their passport were in that position because they were following his advice posted here about not carrying such documentation while in Jakarta, advice that would have cost them either 25 million rupiah, or a night in a virtual jail.[/QUOTE]This guy is not very smooth and I just ignore his useless advice completely, and caution others from doing so likewise. I actually kinda feel sad for him, as he spends most of this time posting in other international tourist sex forums instead of building a real life in Jakarta and connecting with local people. He doesn't have a KITAs or working permit to live in Indo, so he needs to do constant Visa runs in neighboring countries such as Singapore, Thailand etc. I'm always weary of trusting people like this because they are basically transients who are unwanted by the countries they live in. If he could actually attract real woman and build a real life, he wouldn't be running away from the States to live in exile in Indo, and trying to find validation from random strangers over the internet.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1949100]Now I have no problem with what the bloke did, good luck to him, it is part of his culture never paying the first price offered. He showed an admirably business-like demeanor as he got his way doing something which no bule guy would ever have the effrontery to do (and why China will be ruling the world in 50 years time).
That gentlemen sums up how we western guys are viewed. We are cash cows, who can be given a perfunctory service in the knowledge that we will over pay and then tip handsomely before moving on to work the real tough jobs, the local guys and especially Chinese men, who will need a really top-notch performance but who will still pay less money.
Bear that in mind the next time you guiltily hand over a tip even though you weren't particularly happy with the service, think of the Chinese guy in the next room who is working his girl like billy-oh knowing he won't be paying as much as you.[/QUOTE]Just to let you know, not all bules act like you did. I stopped the girl from gulping down the first drink and hence there was no confrontation. Been around and know the ropes. Just be aware of the circumstances and be smart while having fun. You did what you did and others necessarily do not do the same.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1949100]I am now coming around to my wife's contemptuous opinion of my freeness with tips to everyone from the waiter at dinner to the valet parker. She has always claimed it didn't make a blind bit of difference and all I did was come across as a naive soft touch, I think (as so often when it comes to my better half) she may have a point.[/QUOTE]Wow, where can I find one like that? My Indo girlfriend is always bitching that I don't tip enough. She even wants me to tip guys like the bluebird stand taxi guy when we cue at the mall and other such ridiculous things. I notice that nobody else tips those guys.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1948867]Shocking. Who would have thought there were some people doing drugs at that place?

I never went there anyway.[/QUOTE]There was always a corner at Millies where these things were available. Similarly I think at Golden crown as well.

Usually you tip taxi guys, and traffic guys 20 cents or less for hailing a cab, or opening a door etc. Tipping is purely optional, but these people work in a 3rd world country where the government doesn't do enough to support them, and they make around $100-200 a month to survive on. If you are an expat who can't afford to give 20 cents here and there to a taxi guy, I think that is really low pathetic, not Smooth at all. Especially cheap charlies who deliberately walk one block away from buildings and hotels to avoid paying a 20 cent tip. Basically, you are either super cheap, selfish, and have no compassion and generosity in your heart. I feel sorry for such folks.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1949100] What I objected to was the dancer's attitude, she stood there, panties down, topless, cajoling him, grabbing his hand and thrusting it to her crotch, hugging him, and when the deal was agreed smiling broadly and giving him a big kiss. [/QUOTE]I object to that too. She should have been telling him to go F himself. Maybe he was a regular there, who knows?

However, the Chinese guy was getting sloppy seconds off of you. And if he mouth kissed the same girl, he probably swallowed some of your saliva. So that's basically equivalent to you spitting in his mouth. Would it really be worth the discount to have some other dude spit in your mouth? It does always pay to get these girls first. You got a bargain.

Whenever those dancers come over, there is little chance they will ever drink 10 drinks with me (although at 35 k a drink, I wouldn't worry too much about it). I normally tell them "pelan pelan" and will buy 2 drinks. For 10 drinks, she better give me a BJ in the corner.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1949165]Just to let you know, not all bules act like you did. I stopped the girl from gulping down the first drink and hence there was no confrontation. [/QUOTE]As the great Larry David says, Good for you! Good for you.

You scrutinize the girls drinks carefully as she's trying to stick her tits in your face, and in return you get two or three minutes longer than I did. Good for you.

What you aren't getting, and which was rather the point of my post that you appear to have completely missed, is that you're not getting the best part of half an hour's dance, without caring what the girl's running up and then getting a 40 percent discount, which is what the gentleman I was referring to managed to achieve.

Good for you.

In response to the real point, I see it broken down into 2 issues: 1. The service you received, and 2. The price you paid. 1. Service is always YMMV with any girl, but I find I get better service when you try the be playful, relaxed, charming, and engaged with the girl, and yes looks and age are a factor. If you can speak the language that helps too. With some girls you can be more assertive and initiate more contact, so that is worth a try also next time. If you have stiff body language and not smiling (not saying you acted that way) the girls don't react well and you may get worse service. Body language is important, especially if you can't speak the language. 2. Are you sure the guy was 'negotiating' after the fact? Or is it more likely the Chinese guy only agreed on paying 6, and they tried running the tab on him to 10 (it happens to many). Usually, you only pay for what you agree verbally in these places, and I don't think it is negotiable below what you've agreed to pay for and received. However, you were there and I wasn't there to see it. If he was able to negotiate the agreed upon price to something lower, and you felt slighted by this, maybe you can try this and let us know if this works. I think if he 'agreed' to pay for 10 shots, and than later said he's only paying for 6, that the girl or management would take that very well.

I've been twice to Malioboro floor 2 and am wondering if anyone has taken the Vietnamese podium dancer upstairs to the hotel? If so is she as good horizontally as vertically? I don't know how many Vietnamese there are but she's the one who can really dance. She shares the stage with a black haired Russian (girl in wrinkly thigh length black boots.

Field reports to follow.

On my first visit to Malioboro I had a bit of a false start as the mamas ignored me. On my third drink I got fed up with being ignored so up and went to the other room with a live band, left when the singer started murdering I Can't Live if Living is Without You, came back in the big room and this time sat down stairs. I was immediately approached by a friendly mama who told me the prices and pointed out a few girls under her control. Different mamas seem to wrangle different sets of girls and from previous reports it seems that some girls may be managed at different prices by different mamas. It's also possible that some girls choose to stay hidden under their blankets because you're not their type or because they're tired after sessioning with an athlete.

Reports from late last year seem to suggest 800 k as the asking price but 900 k didn't seem unreasonable so I decided to pick someone. After all what's the point of spending all that money on this trip just to bail over a small surcharge?

I thought I might have some trouble picking an Indonesian because they all seemed very attractive, most were shall we say overdressed or should that be under dressed, and some where smiling at me. But in the end I had no trouble picking because one of the smiley ones was dressed more elegantly in a floral dress. Classy is always good. And so I picked my Indonesian Vice Girl.

By vice I mean pussy like a vice. The vice broke 1 x Okamoto 002 and 2 x Sagami 001's. She then said that as my condoms were all lousy we should go on without. And to think I picked her because she looked a nice girl. The bareback offer was a mood killer having broken out of 3 condoms and I was wondering what souvenirs of the session I might have picked up. So much for Japanese precision engineering.

The basic cost 900 K++. I didn't pick up the itemized bill so I don't know how many extras were added for this session. Vice Girl insisted on a 200 k tip. I considered asking her to refund the cost of an STD checkup but there's a lot of staff between the third floor and the main exit. By the way, third floor rooms are really fucking noisy because they're right above the disco.

According to ISO-69 (International Syzygies Order) specification:

Face 7 at least. I didn't think she was as pretty as some of the others until I looked at her more closely.

Body basically 7 slim with small breasts, bit big across the ass for my taste but yet kinda juicy so +1 for some of you. Definitely +2 for being tight.

Enthusiasm average 7, sometimes she was a bit starfish and other times quite sexy, struck a great post with her ass sticking up but was very difficult to get inside her in that position which immediately killed condom #3.

GFE not really GFE but friendly.

Skills 6 nothing special until I had a power failure after the bareback offer, then +2 for a great deep throat BBBJ to restart the engine.

English OK for her job.

Session 2 was with Miss Sex Goddess Indonesia, podium dancer divine.

Face 8 at least, maybe -1 for the oversize blue contact lenses.

Body would be 13 out of 10 but -1 for tattoos, minus another 1 for the Hello Kitty tattoos (seriously not sexy, not even on that body) and -1 for having a man's name tattooed on her forearm. Hey but that's still a 10. Maybe you can +1 because she really knows how to pose.

Enthusiasm average 7 despite being super sexy at dancing she doesn't move that much except when on top when she moves so much it's impossible to stay inside.

GFE not really and she was really pissed out of her skull which didn't help. I just thought she couldn't walk straight in those high heels but turns out she couldn't walk straight at all.

Skills 6 nothing special except the ability to pose very sexily, +1 for that.

English OK for her job.

Damage was supposed to be 1. 8 million but not sure of the total cost. Despite a mixed session she absolutely insisted on a 200 k tip plus a 50 k tip for her manager.

The total bill was over 4. 2 millions for 2 girls and 3 drinks not including 2 x 200 k tips for the session girls, 50 k tip for podium manager and 50 k for the sexy waitress that I keep trying to take upstairs.

Before the Price Police file their reports, I had a memorable evening that was more good than bad. I think it was a bit expensive but I want my lasting memory to be the curves, the sexy posing, the deep throat experience, and a vice like grip not the final bill and a debate whether I paid 1% too much.

And Before the Tip Police file their reports, I wanted to tip the manager because I want to get in his and his girls good books and I wanted to tip the waitress because I want to get her in her knickers. Everyone else from the room cleaners to the door attendant, podium dancers, waiters, mosquitos, roaches, mice and undercover cops asked for a tip but I didn't tip them. Though I did donate some blood to one of the mozzies. If girl 1 gave me anything, then maybe the mozzie got it too. Share and share alike.

There's a 3% charge for paying by card but either their calculator or their cashier isn't good at math. So you pays your money and you takes your chance.

Short version.

Same podium girl as last time but lower scores this time for very very bad breath and general lack of hygiene.

Long version.

Anticipating that the Price Police will have already written how I'm over paying at Malioboro I set out with the intentions of trying the cheaper end of the market. I decided a chicken sandwich was in order so headed to Kartika. It took a little finding but it's one street south of Mangga Besar on the east side. It's pretty much at the end of the street on the right hand side. There are some other equally dingy massage places on the right hand side.

No sooner had I stepped out of the bright afternoon light into the dark dismal smoke filled chamber that is reception then I was pounced upon by a large lady wearing a waitress badge. She immediately said this lady very good service and shoved another chubby woman into me knocking me back a step. I wasn't used to having women throw one another at me until I went to Fire Pit in Angeles last week. That was a painful experience.

The second lady said the first lady with waitress badge is mamasan. She multitasks as waitress, weightlifter and bouncer. They started trying to order drinks for me, not lady drinks for them, and quoted me 370 K for a session. I asked about two ladies and was immediately told this was a great idea and it would be 370 K per lady. I asked about paying by card and they said cash only, ATM in Indomart.

So I went back to Indomart but that ATM only dispenses 50 k notes, limit maybe 1 million. I have limited withdrawals per day so need to take as much as possible especially after Malioboro wiped me out of cash the night before. I took my life into my hands crossing Mangga Besar to try ATMs to the north side but they were all 50 k and low limit. So I came back south trying every ATM in turn. Again all 50 k. I did find one dispensing 100 k notes but the limit was still 1 million. After a lot of walking I did find one with 100 k and 2. 5 million limit but it was out of cash. By now I was too pissed off and too hot and tired and very near my hotel so I gave up.

Later I decided to rescue my day and retry Malioboro but go earlier to catch Miss Sex Goddess before she was too plastered to walk. I think she makes a killing on lady drinks. I entered the second floor big room, went straight to the bar, spent 5 minutes trying to get the correct drink as the barkeep seemed to have left his brains in his other clothes, sat down and within 1 minute Miss Sex Goddess was at my table asking for lady drinks. Another definition of good service! As soon as I started to say no she immediately pointed upwards and I said yes and within seconds her manager was at my table with a paper for me to sign.

Like last time he insisted on escorting us to the room. I don't know whether this is to stop other guys groping the dancer en route or just to get a tip. This time I said sorry paying by card and he left smiling.

I forgot to say in my last report that Miss Sex Goddess does collect a condom from the second floor reception but I don't know whether it's an extra charge, see below.

I also forgot to say in my last report that Miss Sex Goddess doesn't shower before or after. At the start of the session she washes her pussy using the high pressure toilet hose and afterwards she washes off any spillages in the wash basin.

Like last time I got the sexy looking but short lived BBBJ before she insisted on a condom. I do find those Sagamis 001's a bit difficult to roll down but not as tricky as the Okamoto 002 hydros. Anyway suitably suited up I went in for missionary. Mistake. Besides not showering it seems Miss Sex Goddess has not brushed her teeth and was recently eating raw sewage judging by the smell. The stench immediately caused a power failure. Determined not to have the day totally ruined and to make up for the previous session, I wanted to try CG. Last time she was bouncing up and down so much it was impossible to stay inside. This time she was more restrained but spent too long trying, well not really trying, to put me inside. When she leaned back the vision was divine. Unfortunately she then leaned forward and breathed on me. That breath was really softening me. So I decided to do her standing doggie in front of the wall mirror. This was the third session room I've been in Malioboro (1 x floor 3, 2 x floor 4) and none of them have strategic pervert mirrors around or over the bed.

Because Miss SG has a great ass as well as perfect boobs I thought that standing doggie in front of the mirror would be visual cocaine and I would be out of range of the bad breath. I forgot that women can stink from between the other lips too and that totally ruined it for me. What a waste of an expensive condom.

She asked what was wrong and I tried to explain politely in sign language that she really needed to brush her teeth. She then spent 5 minutes alone in the bathroom doing something but her breath wasn't any better when she returned.

After a lot of mental effort I managed to spill the milk over those magnificent breasts. I confess to trying to splash a little higher but I was doing well to get that far. She insisted on another 200 k tip so I reluctantly gave her 100 k after a glaring match. When she first noticed it was a mere 100 k she looked like she might cry then she looked like she might stab me with her stiletto so I gave in and handed her the other 100 k though let her know that it was all begrudgingly given. Don't flame me. I figured not being stabbed was worth more than 100 k.

Back in the big room another podium dancer asked me for a lady drink. I said sorry I'm leaving now. She said you just got here. I said here 1 minute then straight upstairs. She asked whether it was a podium dancer or other girl. I said dancer and she shook her said in sorrow saying "Oh no, I'm too late. " Well we all have at least one good looking one that gets away and today I was hers! Sorry miss. She tried to invite herself back to my hotel but I was feeling sick from the smells and had really had enough for one day. So to avoid being pestered for money lady drinks, only mosquitoes surround me more and they don't drain you so dry, I finished my drink in the small room listening to the live band murdering another song I used to like and then left.

As previous reports say, the podium dancers can really hassle you and run up your bill. That doesn't mean you shouldn't partake, just be prepared to physically lift some of them off you when your wallet cries mercy. Guys are taught when women say no they mean no but to these women when guys say no that means try harder to get into his wallet. If you touch the dancers in any way, such as trying to stop them sitting on you, they absolutely expect drinks and tips. But you touched me. No miss, you touched me after I told you no for the fourth time and that was after I turned down the three others in your posse.

On exiting this time I managed to sneak the paperwork out. Sticky fingers.

Product: Massage J.

Therapist: MJ001 20:41-21:44 Rp. 800,000.

Tax 35% Rp. 280,000.

Grand total 1,080,000.

Food & Beverage.

Lounge Rp. 24,000 (one bottle of water that took the barkeep 5 minutes to find in a small fridge. Thank god we're not paying him by the hour or maybe we are and that's why the service charge is so high).

T & S 30% 7,2000.

Grand total 31,200.

Total Transaksi Rp 1,111,200.

The Price Police can stop reading now. For everyone else you should know they then add another 1 million "tip" and then charged me another 30,000 for paying by card, that's on a separate bill. There's no separate item of condoms. I like to think the one the girl collected was free and the room was the 1 million tip and that the dancer was real cheap. We can all dream.

So the final total was 2,141,200 not including 200 k tip for Miss Sex Goddess Sewage Breath.

You'll be fine with earplugs and a nose plug but get there before she's Miss Too Drunk To Walk. The rooms do have toothbrushes but maybe you can take toothpaste and mouthwash and instructions written in Indonesian.

[QUOTE=CharlesDickin;1949707]Besides not showering it seems Miss Sex Goddess has not brushed her teeth and was recently eating raw sewage judging by the smell. The stench immediately caused a power failure. Determined not to have the day totally ruined and to make up for the previous session, I wanted to try CG. Last time she was bouncing up and down so much it was impossible to stay inside. This time she was more restrained but spent too long trying, well not really trying, to put me inside. When she leaned back the vision was divine. Unfortunately she then leaned forward and breathed on me. That breath was really softening me. [/QUOTE]This is hilarious! I think we have all experienced that at some point.

[QUOTE=CharlesDickin;1949687]I picked my Indonesian Vice Girl.

By vice I mean pussy like a vice. The vice broke 1 x Okamoto 002 and 2 x Sagami 001's. She then said that as my condoms were all lousy .[/QUOTE]Dude, bring some lube with you. Those likely broke because she was dry. The girls normally have their own lube as well, but it's normally KY. I believe the condoms they pass out there are pre-lubed. That's why she hasn't had those tear. I recommend penchant premium lube (I don't know if you can find it in Indonesia though). That suck rocks! It gives the feeling of bare skin and you only have to use a little. KY is pretty much crap.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1949937]This is hilarious! I think we have all experienced that at some point.[/QUOTE]And I thought I was a pioneer. Well that just adds to the day's disappointment.

Thanks for the lube tip. I'm sure the 001's are lightly lubed because there's some liquid in the capsule. Miss Vice was definitely wet after I finished DATY and she felt wet when the condoms broke but maybe not wet enough. Hydro 002's are not latex so you can only use water based lube. Lucky for once I read the instructions.

My question might have got lost before my FRs. Does any one know whether the taut torso'd Vietnamese podium dancer at Malioboro is as good on the bed as she is on the stage?

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1949544]As the great Larry David says, Good for you! Good for you.

You scrutinize the girls drinks carefully as she's trying to stick her tits in your face, and in return you get two or three minutes longer than I did. Good for you.

What you aren't getting, and which was rather the point of my post that you appear to have completely missed, is that you're not getting the best part of half an hour's dance, without caring what the girl's running up and then getting a 40 percent discount, which is what the gentleman I was referring to managed to achieve..[/QUOTE]Name-calling isn't helpful for the thread either. Nor is being unable to let things be. If you don't like what people post you are free to add them to your ignore list.

I'm sorry to note that you have become a lot less light-hearted than you were some years ago. Cheer up! You only live once.

Regards,

Ko.

[QUOTE=KoperenKlaas;1950349]
I'm sorry to note that you have become a lot less light-hearted than you were some years ago.

[/QUOTE]I think the general deterioration of mood in Jakarta the past few years (now, I wonder what that correlates with) is felt all over, including our quick on the keys pal. Though the combination of worn down and jaded and lack of practice in quick retorts and puns since the unfortunate death of the Jakarta Blok M site (those puns were the best part BTW) - well who would be as light on the feet now as back in the hey day not so long ago, when things were looking up in Jakarta (and not just when you looked down).

The newly established attack dogs around here don't help the mood either. And if anyone sees a camera crew hanging out at night in unusual or Bule attended areas. Run the other bloody way! Discreetly. And no I'm still only going to be carrying my passport to and from the airport.

Meanwhile, I do recommend you download Tinder for your phone or whatever, and give yourself RSI swiping right. Also download Fake GPS if you don't happen to be standing at ground zero or thereabouts. More quality and less expense (and far few twits) than seen on Twitter. Honourable mention for Badoo and Skout too.

Or you could drag out the expense account and head to BATs CJs Alexis and Malioboro, or act and pay like a local at FM1, Mangga Besar pretty much, well anywhere, and a few others. Preferably after learning to speak just a tiny bit like a local. Language ability (or speed at using Google Translate) is inversely proportional to overall expense still. Think they're onto us foreign devils / easy marks at Classic and Travel though. Travel was great when it first opened not so long ago but I can't recall the last time I went, and that was just to use a room, not the in house 'facilities'.

It's getting meaner in the Big Durian, but fun is still to be had. Then again, if Hi Lo isn't getting Friday romps anymore like the photo stream of some years back proved, well I can understand being a bit less chipper these days!

[QUOTE=HungMan1808;1950636]Travel was great when it first opened not so long ago[/QUOTE]I first visited the girls at Hotel Travel back in 2001. And for sure it had been open quite a while before then. How long have you been in Jakarta to think that wasn't so long ago? Haha.

By the way, who were you on the old blokm site?

[QUOTE=KoperenKlaas;1950349]I'm sorry to note that you have become a lot less light-hearted than you were some years ago. .[/QUOTE]No I think I am just as light-hearted as I used to be and like Smoothy, Menteng and Hungman I too was a regular at the Rev's old site, which was a place many of the new posters should visit to see how discussing this hobby can be done in style, informatively and with good humor.

My recent sense of humor failure was related to the obvious bitchiness (if this gets censored too for being argumentative then so be it) that has crept in here. I am not alone, I know several other regular posters who are fed up with the niggling back-biting and pissing competitions that some posters here seem to be determined to carry on.

Arguments over taxi ranks and visa queues FFS, I ask you?

I posted a long and what I considered interesting article about what I think may have been a phenomenon unknown to many of the bule posters here, that if you have the brass neck you can actually haggle the bill with the sexy dancers at Classic. Now maybe everyone already knew that, perhaps I am a naive newbie (I doubt it) but it was something I thought might be of interest to other posters here and decided to take the time to share it.

First response? A snarky reply in which the poster wanted to show that he was oh-so clever and more knowledgeable than me and how he was never fooled like I was. A response that so spectacularly missed the point I had taken the effort to make that I responded in irritation, and perhaps haste.

But listen guys if you want to turn what was once an interesting, good-humored and informative forum where knowledge, suggestions and experiences were freely exchanged in a collegiate spirit, well have at it, it's not the place I'm interested in remaining, and judging by the precipitate decline in posters and posts in recent months I am certain that I am not alone.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1950949]No I think I am just as light-hearted as I used to be and like Smoothy, Menteng and Hungman I too was a regular at the Rev's old site, which was a place many of the new posters should visit to see how discussing this hobby can be done in style, informatively and with good humor.

My recent sense of humor failure was related to the obvious bitchiness (if this gets censored too for being argumentative then so be it) that has crept in here. I am not alone, I know several other regular posters who are fed up with the niggling back-biting and pissing competitions that some posters here seem to be determined to carry on.

Arguments over taxi ranks and visa queues FFS, I ask you?

I posted a long and what I considered interesting article about what I think may have been a phenomenon unknown to many of the bule posters here, that if you have the brass neck you can actually haggle the bill with the sexy dancers at Classic. Now maybe everyone already knew that, perhaps I am a naive newbie (I doubt it) but it was something I thought might be of interest to other posters here and decided to take the time to share it..[/QUOTE]I knew the Blok M chronicles. See PM.

[QUOTE=CharlesDickin;1949707]Short version.

Same podium girl as last time but lower scores this time for very very bad breath and general lack of hygiene.

Long version.

Anticipating that the Price Police will have already written how I'm over paying at Malioboro I set out with the intentions of trying the cheaper end of the market.....[/QUOTE]Nice reports Charles Dickin.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1950949]I posted a long and what I considered interesting article about what I think may have been a phenomenon unknown to many of the bule posters here, that if you have the brass neck you can actually haggle the bill with the sexy dancers at Classic. Now maybe everyone already knew that, perhaps I am a naive newbie (I doubt it) but it was something I thought might be of interest to other posters here and decided to take the time to share it.[/QUOTE]Don't let the idiots get to you. That was a cool story and very interesting. Makes me think maybe I am not pushing the girls hard enough to earn their drinks.

I went to Classic Bunker the other day and there was a dancer I loved. What a firm body on that girl! I only bought her a couple of drinks, but I was very tempted to take her to the room for 1. 2 million.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1950838]I first visited the girls at Hotel Travel back in 2001. And for sure it had been open quite a while before then. [/QUOTE]I suppose you could class the remodel about a decade ago as a re-open. Well I presume it was done up, I do recalls some photos on here of the old Travel.

The fact I referred to a decade as not long ago and considered a remodel as a new open is starting to worry me!

And I've always been, well er, Hung.

[QUOTE=HungMan1808;1951279]I suppose you could class the remodel about a decade ago as a re-open. Well I presume it was done up, I do recalls some photos on here of the old Travel.

The fact I referred to a decade as not long ago and considered a remodel as a new open is starting to worry me!

And I've always been, well er, Hung.[/QUOTE]That's true. I think that renovation was around 2005.

I just tried to log into that old blokm site and it appears the forum is gone. Too bad, we had some good discussions on there. It does still have the photos though. I just looked at the old Lintas Melawai photos, and they brought back some memories. Those had to have been taken before digital cameras. That place was awesome. Many good hours spent in there.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1951276]Don't let the idiots get to you..[/QUOTE]Smoothy, who are you calling idiots? An apology is due.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;1950949]No I think I am just as light-hearted as I used to be and like Smoothy, Menteng and Hungman I too was a regular at the Rev's old site, which was a place many of the new posters should visit to see how discussing this hobby can be done in style, informatively and with good humor.

My recent sense of humor failure was related to the obvious bitchiness (if this gets censored too for being argumentative then so be it) that has crept in here. I am not alone, I know several other regular posters who are fed up with the niggling back-biting and pissing competitions that some posters here seem to be determined to carry on.

Arguments over taxi ranks and visa queues FFS, I ask you?

I posted a long and what I considered interesting article about what I think may have been a phenomenon unknown to many of the bule posters here, that if you have the brass neck you can actually haggle the bill with the sexy dancers at Classic. Now maybe everyone already knew that, perhaps I am a naive newbie (I doubt it) but it was something I thought might be of interest to other posters here and decided to take the time to share it.

First response? A snarky reply in which the poster wanted to show that he was oh-so clever and more knowledgeable than me and how he was never fooled like I was. A response that so spectacularly missed the point I had taken the effort to make that I responded in irritation, and perhaps haste.

But listen guys if you want to turn what was once an interesting, good-humored and informative forum where knowledge, suggestions and experiences were freely exchanged in a collegiate spirit, well have at it, it's not the place I'm interested in remaining, and judging by the precipitate decline in posters and posts in recent months I am certain that I am not alone.[/QUOTE]Your post is usual. Somebody who thinks too much of himself and not open to others views. If you do not like others opinions, just put the other posters on your ignore list like Koperen Klaas stated and you can continue to feel like a King. Don't need your disrespectful remarks and if you are unable to communicate with others respectfully, don't dish your anger on to others. I am not going to lower myself to your level and say nothing.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1951321]That's true. I think that renovation was around 2005.

I just tried to log into that old blokm site and it appears the forum is gone. Too bad, we had some good discussions on there. It does still have the photos though. I just looked at the old Lintas Melawai photos, and they brought back some memories. Those had to have been taken before digital cameras. That place was awesome. Many good hours spent in there.[/QUOTE]Those photos! I just took a sentimental journey to that site: memories, memories!

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1951463]I think it's pretty obvious that the clown on this forum is lost99. No apology due.[/QUOTE]Ironic this is coming from the guy who spends every minute on various Sex Forums, criticizes every other member, including those who wish to carry passports to avoid getting detained by Customs.

You are the real reason why nobody likes to contribute here. Job well done Mr self-proclaimed sheriff!

I went to BATS again last night. The talent level was again absolutely great! The girl I took home was the best one I have ever taken home from BATS (even better than the last one). She wasn't any better looking than the girl last time, she was about the same (both were great), but her attitude was off the charts. Absolutely fantastic night. What a little stunner. In no way is BATS a dead option. I highly recommend it. It's just a shame the prices have gotten so high.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1951470]I went to BATS again last night. The talent level was again absolutely great! The girl I took home was the best one I have ever taken home from BATS (even better than the last one). She wasn't any better looking than the girl last time, she was about the same (both were great), but her attitude was off the charts. Absolutely fantastic night. What a little stunner. In no way is BATS a dead option. I highly recommend it. It's just a shame the prices have gotten so high.[/QUOTE]Bars ebb and flow with talent. When I was last there in March the girl quality was disappointing to say the least. It is good to hear that the quality talent has returned. "Her attitude was off the charts. Absolutely fantastic night. " - I know exactly how you feel. I have met some amazing 5 star hotel bar FL's too.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1951504]Bars ebb and flow with talent. When I was last there in March the girl quality was disappointing to say the least. It is good to hear that the quality talent has returned. [/QUOTE]So true. It's hit or miss. There can be zero talent one night and great talent the next. It's not consistent anymore like it was in the early 2000's.

[QUOTE=KoperenKlaas;1948639]The Jakarta Post reported today that Mille's has been closed by authorities after another case of drug use was discovered. This time a policeman was the culprit.

Surprise, surprise.

Regards,

Ko.[/QUOTE]Would anybody have the number of Pak Anis, the old guy with no teeth that was always hanging out at Mille's? I left my Motorcycle helmet with him two weeks ago but he took off before I could get back to him. I haven't had a chance to get back there since. If anyone knows, please PM.

Thanks OS.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1951470]I went to BATS again last night. The talent level was again absolutely great! The girl I took home was the best one I have ever taken home from BATS (even better than the last one). She wasn't any better looking than the girl last time, she was about the same (both were great), but her attitude was off the charts. Absolutely fantastic night. What a little stunner. In no way is BATS a dead option. I highly recommend it. It's just a shame the prices have gotten so high.[/QUOTE]You are a terrific contributor to to the Jakarta site. Thank you. How much did it cost you in drinks and the girl-and did she stay till noon the next day like it is done in the Philippines?

[QUOTE=Canute;1951893]How much did it cost you in drinks and the girl-and did she stay till noon the next day like it is done in the Philippines?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, I tend to buy a lot of drinks. Not just for me, but for the girls. (I prefer that they are at least a bit drunk when I take them home.) One drink at that bar (even beer) will be around 12 to 15 dollars USD (it ain't cheap). I think I spent about $100 on drinks. I believe the minimum entry fee drink is 150 k which is about $12 usd. The girl cost about $120 usd for short time (1. 5 million). I believe she wanted 2 million for long time (about $150 usd), but I don't do long times. We got to my place early morning around 2 am, and she left around 5 am. We only shagged once, but it was a long shag and we did joke around where she was dancing and singing for me naked before the shag. The experience was awesome. The price, not so awesome. To be honest, I am not the expert on taking girls for long time. But I believe you may be hard pressed to find a girl who will agree to stay till noon. A lot of them will only do short times. But if you find one who doesn't have an indo boyfriend or a baby at home and doesn't want to go out and do drugs with the money she just made from you right after she's finished with you, the girl might stay until noon. I can't even remember the last time I did that however. It also depends how much she likes you. There are times I do have the girls come over and stay for a few days after I know them a bit, but on first meeting I never do longer than a short time. I always tell them that the amount of money I give them for those few days depends on how much fun and sex they make sure I have. So it differs.

Blok M has much cheaper drinks (about half the price) and the girls there will be more likely to stay until noon if you want. The price of the girls is also about half of what you pay at Shangri-la. Unfortunately, the quality is normally not as high. But last Saturday night at 4 am, there was some pretty good talent there in My Bar at Blok M for a girl's birthday party. Those are some of the same girls you can find in Shangri La. You just don't always see them there at Blok M. They didn't arrive until around 4 am though, and that's basically closing time.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1952024]Unfortunately, I tend to buy a lot of drinks. Not just for me, but for the girls. (I prefer that they are at least a bit drunk when I take them home.) One drink at that bar (even beer) will be around 12 to 15 dollars USD (it ain't cheap). I think I spent about $100 on drinks. I believe the minimum entry fee drink is 150 k which is about $12 usd. The girl cost about $120 usd for short time (1. 5 million). I believe she wanted 2 million for long time (about $150 usd), but I don't do long times. We got to my place early morning around 2 am, and she left around 5 am. We only shagged once, but it was a long shag and we did joke around where she was dancing and singing for me naked before the shag. The experience was awesome. The price, not so awesome. To be honest, you will be hard pressed to find a girl who will agree to stay till noon. A lot of them will only do short times. But if you find one who doesn't have an indo boyfriend or a baby at home and doesn't want to go out and do drugs with the money she just made from you right after she's finished with you, the girl might stay until noon. I can't even remember the last time I did that however. It also depends how much she likes you. There are times I do have the girls stay for a few days after I know them a bit, but on first meeting I never do longer than a short time.

Blok M has much cheaper drinks (about half the price) and the girls there will be more likely to stay until noon if you want. The price of the girls is also about half of what you pay at Shangri-la. Unfortunately, the quality is normally not as high. But last Saturday night at 4 am, there was some pretty good talent there in My Bar at Blok M for a girl's birthday party. Those are some of the same girls you can find in Shangri La. You just don't always see them there at Blok M. They didn't arrive until around 4 am though, and that's basically closing time.[/QUOTE]Everyone has his own Modus Operandi of having a good time, and I am of no exception. I personally prefer LT as I like to take things slow, plus I like the morning sex, and I enjoyed their looks when they were still feeling dazed and half-asleep. As to whether they were willing to stay till noon, it all depends on their situation. I came across one who insisted that she had to leave no later than 7 AM since since she needed to get to work at Carre Four the next morning. I had encountered many who would have no issue staying till late morning or noon.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1951372]Your post is usual. Somebody who thinks too much of himself and not open to others views. If you do not like others opinions, just put the other posters on your ignore list like Koperen Klaas stated and you can continue to feel like a King. Don't need your disrespectful remarks and if you are unable to communicate with others respectfully, don't dish your anger on to others. I am not going to lower myself to your level and say nothing.[/QUOTE]You just did say something and by that you made his point.

There are too many posters in this thread who get off by criticizing others and not contributing anything useful. You can think of a number of names by yourself.

Smoothy is right when he calls these attack dogs idiots. What do they hope to achieve?

[QUOTE=Menteng;1951440]Those photos! I just took a sentimental journey to that site: memories, memories![/QUOTE]I hadn't visited the Blog M site (as it's now called) for some time and it was a happy renewal. The light touch of the Reveler is sorely missed. Wonder what happened to him.

I took a look along the last couple of pages of this thread and unfortunately a large part of the posts are from the few obnoxious characters on my ignore list. They look to be quite successful in taking over the entire thread.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1951372]you can continue to feel like a King. [/QUOTE]I vote for Menteng as the King of this Indo forum. I would vote for Bulai, but he doesn't seem to post here anymore. That's a damn shame because his stories were always interesting and unique. He came up with many good ideas that I had not thought of trying.

Hey all,

I've been digging around for a few weeks now for my first trip to Jakarta. The trip will only be a few days.

I have some work to take care of in Kemang, South Jakarta, but obviously want to hit these spots in the North.

From what I hear about the famous traffic. Am I just screwed, and looking at hours each way to get up there from Kemang?

I'm wondering if I should just take care of my business on the south and totally uproot myself to a hotel in the North, rather than waste so much dough and time bouncing south to north. Advisable?

Been reading of price jumps for Classic and the like.

Honestly, since spending so much time in China, I've taken a liking to Spas.

How are they? Sands? Orchards? Comfort? So much to choose from.

Is Kotah Indah worth hitting as a foreigner?

If you had to pick one of the "big few" (Alexis, M Star, Terminal, etc) with only a few days, which would you go for?

It's a bit difficult to understand who has rooms for "on site" and who doesn't, but I'll keep digging.

Thanks, and cheers.

Very useful, comprehensive answer. I would be a tourist in Jakarta and am interested in LT so I will go both to bats and blok M and other places in this forum.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1952150]I vote for Menteng as the King of this Indo forum. I would vote for Bulai, but he doesn't seem to post here anymore. That's a damn shame because his stories were always interesting and unique. He came up with many good ideas that I had not thought of trying.[/QUOTE]Bulai 69, the greatest of the mall-hunters it is. I called both his mobile phone and land line recently, but, alas, the lines are dead.

Me, I feel lost in this thread now. Isn't life a *****?

Its a shame none of these guys appreciate your offbeat humour OS.

Hope your well buddy, looking after those mamasans with the lindt choco deliveries.

My advice to forum punters, meet up with each other, have some beers, share some nasi komplit and chill, lifes too short.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;1951891]Would anybody have the number of Pak Anis, the old guy with no teeth that was always hanging out at Mille's? I left my Motorcycle helmet with him two weeks ago but he took off before I could get back to him. I haven't had a chance to get back there since. If anyone knows, please PM.

Thanks OS.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ThingStick;1952378]
I've been digging around for a few weeks now for my first trip to Jakarta. The trip will only be a few days.

I have some work to take care of in Kemang, South Jakarta, but obviously want to hit these spots in the North.

From what I hear about the famous traffic. Am I just screwed, and looking at hours each way to get up there from Kemang?[/QUOTE]Since you are there mainly for work, you won't likely want to be spending late nights out chasing poontang way up in North Jakarta then going all the way back to Kemang. Whenever I have been stuck working in South Jakarta, I don't fight it and try to go up north because it's not logistically sensible due to the traffic and the fact that I have to be up at the crack of dawn to go to work again. These days you don't really have to go up there anyway. There are plenty of good places in South Jakarta now, they just aren't quite as cheap as up north (but still reasonable). By the time you pay for the taxi to go up north, the overall price is about the same anyway.

Go to Grand Wijaya center. It is very close to Kemang. It has plenty of good spas and you can get full service there with young girls just like you would up North. D'Heaven spa is the newest one there (open about 4 months now) and does a full nude massage (they take their clothes off the second the door is closed), the massage is good and the rooms are nice, and that is followed by full sex at the end. It wouldn't be a bad idea to simply go to D'Heaven every evening. Hell, I used to drive all the way up to Kelapa Gading to go to it! Price is 800 k for full service, facilities, VIP room, all inclusive. The girls go into the room expecting sex so you don't have to negotiate an extra price for sex. Fortune massage is also a good choice if you want full sex along with the massage. The difference being that the girls are not full nude the entire massage (but there is sex at the end if you want), and you have to negotiate with the girl in the room for sex. Fortune charges about 400 k separately for the massage / room and you negotiate sex price in the room with the girl (usually 500 k). They do the massages in 45 minute increments, with a minimum of an hour and a half, and the girls will give you a massage and wait until the last minute to get your dick hard, then ask "you want special?" - and if you do, you have to extend another 45 minutes. But if you nego sex up front, they will get it done in the original hour and a half. Cherry Massage is there also, but the choice of girls is not as good (normally). I did have one stunner there a while ago, but she was only there a short while. Those girls are expecting sex every time. Delta massage is the best actual massage (the hot stone massage is awesome), but it only has a hand job at the end. None of the spas up North are really any better than these places. Sands, Orchards, Comfort, Kotah Indah, M Star, Terminal (Hotel Classic), etc - none of those are any better than places like D'Heaven in Grand Wijaya. If I were you, I would simply go to Grand Wijaya every evening. (there are also other spas at Grand Wijaya, but it sounds like you won't have time to try them all).

Those places have young girls just like up north and the service is similar to what you get up north as far as sex. That's my main complaint about the places up North, the sex is starfish frequently. If you care more about service and don't mind a girl in her late 20's or early 30's and want awesome blow jobs and full on sex with a pro, go to Hotel Melawai 6th floor. Maribaya spa. The girls are not anywhere near as good looking as the ones at Grand Wijaya, but the service is the best in Jakarta. When I go to Maribaya, I look around and if there are no passable girls working at the time, I leave. But I don't remember ever have a bad sexual experience there. Free Lancers on Blok M jalan pelatehan are also available and quite near Kemang. It's rare that you won't have good sex with those girls if you do take one to your room. (again, the free lancers at Pelatehan are not as cute as the girls at Grand Wijaya).

Of all of the places up North you mentioned, the only one possibly worth venturing away from Grand Wijaya to hit would be Alexis. That is a different animal. The prices are expensive, but the girls are top quality and the experience is quite nice. But considering how far away that is, I'd stick with Wijaya.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1952616]Bulai 69, the greatest of the mall-hunters it is. I called both his mobile phone and land line recently, but, alas, the lines are dead.

Me, I feel lost in this thread now. Isn't life a *****?[/QUOTE]I still use some of his techniques at the malls to meet girls. The dude is a genius. Remember the girl he fell in love with about 10 years ago (I think he may have bought her a car)? I saw her photo on facebook the other day, she is still stunning. I think he was shagging her sister after he broke up with her. Her sister was also very hot. His posts are definitely missed.

[QUOTE=MasBule;1952629]Its a shame none of these guys appreciate your offbeat humour OS.[/QUOTE]Are you sure that was humor? Pak Anis still owes me money.

[QUOTE=MasBule;1952629]Its a shame none of these guys appreciate your offbeat humour OS.

Hope your well buddy, looking after those mamasans with the lindt choco deliveries.

[/QUOTE]Those girls there are so sweet. I just had to give them chocolates.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1952647]Since you are there mainly for work, you won't likely want to be spending late nights out chasing poontang way up in North Jakarta then going all the way back to Kemang. Whenever I have been stuck working in South Jakarta, I don't fight it and try to go up north because it's not logistically sensible due to the traffic and the fact that I have to be up at the crack of dawn to go to work again. These days you don't really have to go up there anyway. There are plenty of good places in South Jakarta now, they just aren't quite as cheap as up north (but still reasonable). By the time you pay for the taxi to go up north, the overall price is about the same anyway.

Go to Grand Wijaya center. It is very close to Kemang. It has plenty of good spas and you can get full service there with young girls just like you would up North. D'Heaven spa is the newest one there (open about 4 months now) and does a full nude massage (they take their clothes off the second the door is closed), the massage is good and the rooms are nice, and that is followed by full sex at the end. It wouldn't be a bad idea to simply go to D'Heaven every evening. Hell, I used to drive all the way up to Kelapa Gading to go to it! Price is 800 k for full service, facilities, VIP room, all inclusive. The girls go into the room expecting sex so you don't have to negotiate an extra price for sex. Fortune massage is also a good choice if you want full sex along with the massage. The difference being that the girls are not full nude the entire massage (but there is sex at the end if you want), and you have to negotiate with the girl in the room for sex. Fortune charges about 400 k separately for the massage / room and you negotiate sex price in the room with the girl (usually 500 k). They do the massages in 45 minute increments, with a minimum of an hour and a half, and the girls will give you a massage and wait until the last minute to get your dick hard, then ask "you want special?" - and if you do, you have to extend another 45 minutes. But if you nego sex up front, they will get it done in the original hour and a half..[/QUOTE]Hey,

This is exactly the type of post and detailed information I was looking for!

I dug around all over the sub sites, Escapades, etc, but it's all too muddled for me and I have no context for most of the information.

Thanks!

Now that I know there's things in the South, do throw any other recommendations my way. I was considering sticking in Kuala Lumpur for a few extra days as I've been meaning to explore it, but knowing there's options in South Jakarta, I will probably extend my stay a couple more days.

Will definitely report.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;1952684]Those girls there are so sweet. I just had to give them chocolates.[/QUOTE]Very true. You don't get much sweeter than a brothel mamasan.

[QUOTE=MasBule;1952629]Its a shame none of these guys appreciate your offbeat humour OS.

Hope your well buddy, looking after those mamasans with the lindt choco deliveries.

My advice to forum punters, meet up with each other, have some beers, share some nasi komplit and chill, lifes too short.[/QUOTE]Spoken like a Gentleman, sir.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1952150]I vote for Menteng as the King of this Indo forum. I would vote for Bulai, but he doesn't seem to post here anymore. That's a damn shame because his stories were always interesting and unique. He came up with many good ideas that I had not thought of trying.[/QUOTE]I second that motion.

[QUOTE=Canute;1952410]Very useful, comprehensive answer. I would be a tourist in Jakarta and am interested in LT so I will go both to bats and blok M and other places in this forum.[/QUOTE]Blok M usually has low quality gals. BATS usually not that great either, although you can take a look.

With in walking distance?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1952652]I still use some of his techniques at the malls to meet girls. The dude is a genius. Remember the girl he fell in love with about 10 years ago (I think he may have bought her a car)? I saw her photo on facebook the other day, she is still stunning. I think he was shagging her sister after he broke up with her. Her sister was also very hot. His posts are definitely missed.[/QUOTE]DO I remember her?! Mighty Spearsman and I had to stage an act to assist Bulai checking her loyalty!

[QUOTE=TConor;1953067]With in walking distance?[/QUOTE]From Washington square or from Piccadilly circus?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1952150]I vote for Menteng as the King of this Indo forum. I would vote for Bulai, but he doesn't seem to post here anymore. That's a damn shame because his stories were always interesting and unique. He came up with many good ideas that I had not thought of trying.[/QUOTE]I do miss the posts of Bulai. In fact he has connected me to a few free lancers, and even today I am having a couple of them. I did PM him wanting to know his whereabouts, but there was no response and neither a read receipt. Hope he is fine and kicking.

[QUOTE=Menteng;1953086]DO I remember her?! Mighty Spearsman and I had to stage an act to assist Bulai checking her loyalty![/QUOTE]He gave me her phone number as well to check her loyalty. I never did call her, just didn't feel right about it. What if I had fallen for the girl?

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When you are looking for options on a limited budget, you need to say where your hotel will be located. There are many many many options in Jakarta, Hotel Classic is by far the best option.

I would avoid Blok M and Maribaya at all costs, unless you like Old women in their 50's.

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[QUOTE=Smoothy;1952647]Since you are there mainly for work, you won't likely want to be spending late nights out chasing poontang way up in North Jakarta then going all the way back to Kemang. Whenever I have been stuck working in South Jakarta, I don't fight it and try to go up north because it's not logistically sensible due to the traffic and the fact that I have to be up at the crack of dawn to go to work again. These days you don't really have to go up there anyway. There are plenty of good places in South Jakarta now, they just aren't quite as cheap as up north (but still reasonable). By the time you pay for the taxi to go up north, the overall price is about the same anyway.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I'm new here in Jakarta, so can you please suggest me some good place around The Bellezza Shopping Arcade (Somerset Hotel)? I'm interested more about bars, some party places than a spa. Pick up girls and get into the hotel for some fun.

Many thanks!

Was staying at Hotel Santika Premiere. During an evening walk along Jalan Mangga Besar Raya, visited the Lokasari Plaza in search for some restaurants for a good meal. Saw lots of girls around that area. Some were doable and asking IDR 300,000 for ST in near by hotel called 'transit hotel' which charges IDR 100,000 for an hour or so. None could speak English except one who was quite fluent but a little plump.

There were a few who were in uniforms selling some products but available for ST at IDR 1,000,000. Most of the girls were standing at the entrance of a hotel.

Took the plump girl to my hotel. She was friendly and had a pleasing personality, ready to please and game to everything except anal. Her personality makes up for shortcomings in her figure.

I am very well informed on Jakarta. I have been living here for over 20 years. I have Indo friends who like Hotel Classic because they are cheap and like to watch the sexy dancers due to the cheap entry fee. I am also very cheap and don't have much money. And since I was there, I of course decided to try a girl, even though the service is mediocre. Place can change over the years, it's good to give them a shot again every once in a while.

Sharing picture of hotel near Lokasari Plaza. One can will see girls standing around and will approach you if you can make some eye contact. It is usually IDR 300 k / 400 k for ST plus IDR 100 k for 'transit hotel'.

[QUOTE=Manfield04;1953681] During an evening walk along Jalan Mangga Besar Raya, visited the Lokasari Plaza in search for some restaurants for a good meal. Saw lots of girls around that area.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fallenangel;1953664]Hi,

I'm new here in Jakarta, so can you please suggest me some good place around The Bellezza Shopping Arcade (Somerset Hotel)? I'm interested more about bars, some party places than a spa. Pick up girls and get into the hotel for some fun.

Many thanks![/QUOTE]You are right next to Plaza Senayan. X2 is at Plaza Senayan and Domain is at Senayan City. Both are places where you will find many hot girls (not prostitutes though). Although these are not places with hookers (for the most part), it's not too difficult to meet girls. However, there is no guarantee to find a girl who will have sex with you that night in those places. And unfortunately, neither place gets started until around midnight. Red Square has re-opened as well and is quite near to you, but I haven't tried it yet so I'm not sure of the possibilities there. If you want hookers, go to Hotel Mulia and they have a bar called CJs. You can go there as early as 10 pm. All of these places are only a few minutes from you. The girls at Mulia will want between 1. 5 to 2 million rupiah to go to your hotel (if you wait until 3 am at closing time, you might be able to get them for 1 million). If you want cheaper down market, you are also close to Blok M. You can go to Jalan Pelatehan and go to the bar called Top Gun. There will be some girls there. Not anywhere near as attractive as the girls at X2, Domain or CJs, but there are some good ones.

[QUOTE=Fallenangel;1953664]Hi,

I'm new here in Jakarta, so can you please suggest me some good place around The Bellezza Shopping Arcade (Somerset Hotel)? I'm interested more about bars, some party places than a spa. Pick up girls and get into the hotel for some fun.

Many thanks![/QUOTE]You are right next to Plaza Senayan. X 2 is at Plaza Senayan and Domain is at Senayan City. Both are places where you will find many hot girls. As long as you are not Old and unattractive, you will find a girl who will have sex with you that night in those places. Fortunately, neither place gets started until around midnight. Red Square has re-opened as well and is quite near to you, but I haven't tried it yet so not sure why I am even mentioning it. If you don't have any looks or game and want hookers, go to Hotel Mulia and they have a bar called CJs. You can go there as early as 10 pm although nobody shows up that early and it doesn't get started till midnight. The girls at Mulia will want between 1.5 to 2 million rupiah to go to your hotel if you are Old and not so attractive, if you have some personality and charm you might be able to get them for 1 million. If you want cheaper down market, you are also close to Blok M but this place is the bottom of the barrel quality. You can go to Jalan Pelatehan and go to the bar called Top Gun. There will be some girls there. Not anywhere near as attractive as the girls at X 2, Domain or CJs, but there are some good ones if you close your eyes or put a bag over her head.

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Hewwo. Zuka has arrived in Jakarta. Took a Damri bus from soekarno-hatta to Gambir (40.000), then proceeded to my hotel in a cab. Jakarta seems as hectic as usual. On my first night went to jl. Jaksa for a beer. Quite fun, though the girls are so so, didn't asked the price. Instead went to Pen-J. Most of the clubs there pretty same, funky kota and mostly local guys, saw maybe 3 other bules. Small bintang costs 30.000. My favorite bar is L. A, found a girl there, took her upstairs. 21 yo from Puncak. Price 330.000. Sex was surprisingly good. After that walked to Jakarta station and ordered gojek. Earlier saw some girls sitting under the flyover from Pullman to Grand Indonesia and putting on makeup. I don't know if they are for take or not, didn't asked, too many people around. Looked quite young too. That's all for today. My first post in Jakarta forum. Was fun reading old posts from 2002 until today, learned a lot about the scene and the recent history of Jakarta too.

[QUOTE=Zuka55;1954566]Took a Damri bus from soekarno-hatta to Gambir (40.000). went to jl. Jaksa for a beer. After that walked to Jakarta station and ordered gojek. [/QUOTE]After your visit, you might be able to write a book on how to visit Jakarta as cheap as humanly possible. Your only mistake was going to a place where girls are 330 k. Classic Bunker is closer to Jalan Jaksa and the girls are only 300 k. Easier to get a gojek from there too. By going to bunker, you could have almost saved enough for another bus ride back to the airport. It's just a damn shame that Kalijodo is closed now, you could have gotten some action for 185 k. You might want to try the Ruko Robinson area, you can break the 300 k barrier there.

However, if going as cheap as possible is your goal, Bali is probably a better choice than Jakarta.

[QUOTE=Zuka55;1954566]Hewwo. Zuka has arrived in Jakarta. Took a Damri bus from soekarno-hatta to Gambir (40.000), then proceeded to my hotel in a cab. Jakarta seems as hectic as usual. On my first night went to jl. Jaksa for a beer. Quite fun, though the girls are so so, didn't asked the price. Instead went to Pen-J. Most of the clubs there pretty same, funky kota and mostly local guys, saw maybe 3 other bules. Small bintang costs 30.000. My favorite bar is L. A, found a girl there, took her upstairs. 21 yo from Puncak. Price 330.000. Sex was surprisingly good. After that walked to Jakarta station and ordered gojek. Earlier saw some girls sitting under the flyover from Pullman to Grand Indonesia and putting on makeup. I don't know if they are for take or not, didn't asked, too many people around. Looked quite young too. That's all for today. My first post in Jakarta forum. Was fun reading old posts from 2002 until today, learned a lot about the scene and the recent history of Jakarta too.[/QUOTE]Brilliant! Haha. Out of sight and operating below the radar of this forum are still some small brothels in Jakarta Barat (West Jakarta) that charge only 150 - 200 k for a quality session. To find them, ask around, local taxi guys may be of help. Enjoy Jakarta.

[QUOTE=Zuka55;1954566]Hewwo. Zuka has arrived in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]From where?

Thank you for the advice. Will try to find those places somehow. I know Classic and blok M, want to try something else. I arrived from Bangkok (got 60 days Indo visa there-50 USD, 2 working days). Found a 19 yo from Badoo, will come to my hotel room later. Agreed on 400.000. I'm not trying to visit Jakarta for as little as possible, but why over spend either. Wish you all a nice evening.

Sorry for the awkward headline. Autocorrect won't let me list the actual name. An acquaintance took me to this place. Cost was about 500 K plus tip (200 K). English ability of everyone is limited, but you can definitely get things done without speaking Bahasa. I was asked what type of girl I wanted. I said I wanted someone who was pleasant and fun. I was assigned Ayu (therapist number 23). She asked me to share her name and number so that she can get more clients. She's really a wonderful, playful fun girl, so please treat her nicely. She is tiny, but she has one of the nicest asses I've ever seen on an Asian girl. It's not ridiculously huge, but it's fabulously curvy. Probably her best physical asset (pun coincidental). As I said, she's quite playful. Her English is weak, but she can speak enough to give you a great time. Her massage was good (I'm not a big fan of massages, but I'd take one from her anytime.) But when playtime started, she really shines. She gives a great BBBJ and she works the CFS really well. Everybody likes something different. If you don't like her, you are definitely entitled to your opinion. But I've paid more for far less. Treat her nicely and tip her well, please.

[QUOTE=GaijinOtoko;1955213]Sorry for the awkward headline. Autocorrect won't let me list the actual name. An acquaintance took me to this place. Cost was about 500 K plus tip (200 K). English ability of everyone is limited, but you can definitely get things done without speaking Bahasa. I was asked what type of girl I wanted. I said I wanted someone who was pleasant and fun. I was assigned Ayu (therapist number 23). She asked me to share her name and number so that she can get more clients. She's really a wonderful, playful fun girl, so please treat her nicely. She is tiny, but she has one of the nicest asses I've ever seen on an Asian girl. It's not ridiculously huge, but it's fabulously curvy. Probably her best physical asset (pun coincidental). As I said, she's quite playful. Her English is weak, but she can speak enough to give you a great time. Her massage was good (I'm not a big fan of massages, but I'd take one from her anytime.) But when playtime started, she really shines. She gives a great BBBJ and she works the CFS really well. Everybody likes something different. If you don't like her, you are definitely entitled to your opinion. But I've paid more for far less. Treat her nicely and tip her well, please.[/QUOTE]I am guessing this is at the D'Heaven at Kelapa Gading, not at Grand Wijaya. I don't think Grand Wijaya has a number 23 named Ayu.

[QUOTE=GaijinOtoko;1955213]Sorry for the awkward headline. Autocorrect won't let me list the actual name. An acquaintance took me to this place. Cost was about 500 K plus tip (200 K). English ability of everyone is limited, but you can definitely get things done without speaking Bahasa. I was asked what type of girl I wanted. I said I wanted someone who was pleasant and fun. I was assigned Ayu (therapist number 23). She asked me to share her name and number so that she can get more clients. She's really a wonderful, playful fun girl, so please treat her nicely. She is tiny, but she has one of the nicest asses I've ever seen on an Asian girl. It's not ridiculously huge, but it's fabulously curvy. Probably her best physical asset (pun coincidental). As I said, she's quite playful. Her English is weak, but she can speak enough to give you a great time. Her massage was good (I'm not a big fan of massages, but I'd take one from her anytime.) But when playtime started, she really shines. She gives a great BBBJ and she works the CFS really well. Everybody likes something different. If you don't like her, you are definitely entitled to your opinion. But I've paid more for far less. Treat her nicely and tip her well, please.[/QUOTE]Where is this place?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1955328]I am guessing this is at the D'Heaven at Kelapa Gading, not at Grand Wijaya. I don't think Grand Wijaya has a number 23 named Ayu.[/QUOTE]Correct, Kelapa Gading.

[QUOTE=SamSuffit;1955370]Where is this place?[/QUOTE]Rukan Gading Bukit Indah Blok SB No. 5-7, Kelapa Gading, Kota Jakarta Utara, Daerah Khusus Ibukota Jakarta 14450, Indonesia.

Near Mall of Indonesia.

[QUOTE=GaijinOtoko;1955213]Sorry for the awkward headline. Autocorrect won't let me list the actual name.[/QUOTE]You can easily correct the spelling. Make your post. Then, edit it and repost :D. D'Heaven

[QUOTE=GaijinOtoko;1955375]Rukan Gading Bukit Indah Blok SB No. 5-7, Kelapa Gading, Kota Jakarta Utara, Daerah Khusus Ibukota Jakarta 14450, Indonesia.

Near Mall of Indonesia.[/QUOTE]Difficult to find this place if you do'nt know Jak. Very well.

Whitch hotel is close to this 'Heaven' ?

Whiz Prime Hotel Kelapa Gading is on Jalan Boulevard Barat Raya near Mall of Indonesia. The Grand Whiz Hotel on Jalan Raya Gading Kirana is nearer to the'Heaven Hotel and Spa.

[QUOTE=DelBosque;1955480] Difficult to find this place if you do'nt know Jak. Very well. Which hotel is close to this 'Heaven' ? [/QUOTE]

Can you tell me about the Classic hotel? And the Alexis Hotel — Jakarta, prices, the system? Services?

I'm a newbie to Jakarta, coming for a Christmas visit en route to Hong Kong and have a 3 night stay in the Mulia where I believe CJ's is located.

Can any of the Jakarta experts on this forum advise me if CJ's is a place you can sit down and have an undisturbed drink to relax, or is mongering major reason this place exists?

Thanks.

Trip report for Jakarta / Bali visit earlier this month.

Hotel Alexis: wasn't too interested in their lounge, so headed straight to their 7th floor bathhouse. Entry was 140 k, which gets waived off if you take a girl. Place gets crowded really quick, and you might end up sharing a couch with other folks. Mamasans are generally non-pushy and pretty helpful. Selection-wise, it's like a fucking UN conference in there. Locals, Chinese, Thais, Vietnamese and a couple of CIS girls as well. Was quoted a little over 1 million for locals and 2 for imports. Picked a hot Chinese girl despite mamasan's recommendation of Viets. In hindsight, should've listened to her. The Chinese girl turned out to be a total starfish, enthusiastically offering over 15 seconds of CBJ and over 2 positions. Finished quick and got the fuck out of there with a very light wallet.

The'heaven spa (Kelapa Gading branch): battled through a fucking hellhole of a 1.5 hour traffic to get there. Was presented with 2 options at the counter: around 375 k for a normal massage with no extras, and about 740 k for an all-in massage. Took the all-in option and selected a petite babe that mami recommended. You have to select the girl from an image gallery on mami's iPad, no option to see in person. Their "VIP" rooms are pretty basic and lack a shower. The girl was just as cute in person as in her pics, so no photoshop scam there. Gave a really good, relaxing massage followed by an unhurried BJ and sex. Fantastic GFE and left very happy.

Kimochi spa (Mangga besar branch): located bang opposite the Travel hotel, so you can use that as a landmark to get here. Place looks seedy as shit on the outside and the inside. Entered the smoke-filled bar area and ordered a drink. They have the pictures of the therapists on one wall and their availability on another. Unfortunately, their star performer the infamous no. 33 wasn't working that day. Picked Luna, who was apparently "good service all OK no problem". I chose the VIP room, which was dingy as shit. The girl made up for that though, starting with an excellent massage and followed by an intense make love session. About 220 K for massage and room + 400 k for make love. Visit this place if you 're looking for great service but don't mind the shithole of an ambiance.

Emporivm spa: easily my favorite joint this trip. I made 3 visits to this place and never left disappointed. Emporivm is purely a fuck joint though. You won't get a massage here. You enter the spa area and sit at a couch, the girls will be spread out on couches opposite to yours. 1.2 m for "VIP" girls and 800 k for regular ones. I found the regular ones to be hotter and more interested than the VIP ones who were dozing off at their couches. Picked a 20 year old hottie. You either get 1.5 hours with her in the room or opt to have 30 minutes in the pool and 1 hour in the room. I chose the latter and changed into shorts and bathrobe. She changed into a 2 piece and joined me in the pool, sitting in my lap and engaging in underwater "sports". When I was stiff and ready she took me to the room for an hour of even more sports. Excellent GFE and attitude with all 3 gals I selected, will highly recommend this place.

Hotel Classic:

There are 3 levels to explore: bunker, 2nd and 5th. Entrance is 30 k. I went there a bit early in the evening, so the 2nd level was nearly deserted. Headed to level 5 and spent a couple hours drinking there. Very pushy mamasans who won't leave you the fuck alone and keep bringing in one girl after another, even after you tell them that you want to finish your drink and look around first. Huge selection of girls spread out over different couches, each "controlled" by a different mamasan. Prices are 325 k for one and 525 k for 2 - includes the price of the room, which is very clean and decent. Performances though, could be wildly differing. Threesomes will be mostly likely a disaster, with the girls talking amongst themselves and hurrying to get you off. Taking one girl is the safe course, I thought, but even that could be a hit or miss. But at such dirt cheap rates, I'm not complaining.

Bunker also had a similar setup: 30 k entry, 400 k for 1 and 800 k for 2- mamasan called it the "one plus one" offer although there's no discount on the second. After my previous 3 some disaster, decided to pick just one this time. A sexy young one who smiled the most out of the lineup. Holy fucking hell, turned out to be the best decision ever. She gave me the best blowjob of my life and DT'd for what seemed like an eternity. Even though I already had 2 pops earlier that day, I couldn't last for more than 10 minutes with this fiery sex machine. Redeemed the evening.

Grand Boutique Spa (Orchardz Hotel Bandara / Tangerang): Orchardz has a spa on the second floor. If you're a guest here, you could order a girl to your room as well. 2 packages were on offer: about 400 k for normal massage and about 700 k for all-in (think they called it the "butterfly paket" Wasn't shown a lineup or pics; they just sent a girl to the room. Good-looking girl with great massage skills and very eager to please in bed. A great session and a perfect end to the trip.

[QUOTE=DelBosque;1955480]Difficult to find this place if you do'nt know Jak. Very well.

Whitch hotel is close to this 'Heaven' ?[/QUOTE]Try Google Maps.

[QUOTE=Behemoth;1955749]Trip report for Jakarta / Bali visit earlier this month.

The'heaven spa (Kelapa Gading branch): battled through a fucking hellhole of a 1.5 hour traffic to get there. Was presented with 2 options at the counter: around 375 k for a normal massage with no extras, and about 740 k for an all-in massage. Took the all-in option and selected a petite babe that mami recommended. You have to select the girl from an image gallery on mami's iPad, no option to see in person. Their "VIP" rooms are pretty basic and lack a shower. The girl was just as cute in person as in her pics, so no photoshop scam there. Gave a really good, relaxing massage followed by an unhurried BJ and sex. Fantastic GFE and left very happy.

[/QUOTE]I was there last week, and the prices were different - 500 K for all-in massage plus tip. Might price differently on different days. My VIP room had a shower big enough for both girl and me. IPad was offered for selection, and while I was suspicious of the photos, which look heavily photoshopped to me, I was lucky in that my girl was very cute and had an amazing ass! Handlebars so she can walk on your back (and she did, which was not always enjoyable). I agree that I also left very happy.

Limited opportunities to get out these days but weekend alone so ventured out:

Friday:

DHeaven Wijaya. Previous good experience here on first visit but most girls were already booked.

Took Number 32 on recommend of Mami.

Small, cute and nice body but for sure to be avoided.

Her sole objective seemed to be delay any real action in order to "extend" despite me explaining not much time.

Phone rang after prolonged average massage, and I angrily cut my losses with this chick, whose delay action tactics pissed me off! Jumped up, showered, dressed and bailed out.

Paid 800 k and complained at reception seemingly to no avail!! Again. No 32 to be avoided!

Saturday:

Alexis -.

Rarely splurge on this place due to cost.

Pretty Viet took my eye and having had good luck with Viets here previously confirmed with Papi that she would be good service.

He wasn't wrong!!

Immediately started French kissing in room and you know you're in for a treat when the girl thoroughly washes your asshole in the shower. Immediately into BBBJ and rimming for a good 10 minutes! Great full session ended with CIM.

Expensive at 2.4 Juta but left drained and happy.

Frankie

[QUOTE=Stykler;1955612]I'm a newbie to Jakarta, coming for a Christmas visit en route to Hong Kong and have a 3 night stay in the Mulia where I believe CJ's is located.

Can any of the Jakarta experts on this forum advise me if CJ's is a place you can sit down and have an undisturbed drink to relax, or is mongering major reason this place exists?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]You can do sit down, relax, have a drink and ignore the girls while you are there if you want. All girls there are freelancers anyway, and they will not bother you if you do not show any interest.

[QUOTE=Stykler;1955612]I'm a newbie to Jakarta, coming for a Christmas visit en route to Hong Kong and have a 3 night stay in the Mulia where I believe CJ's is located.

Can any of the Jakarta experts on this forum advise me if CJ's is a place you can sit down and have an undisturbed drink to relax, or is mongering major reason this place exists?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Entry to CJs is free if you are staying at the Mulia. I'm not sure what time it opens, so I don't know if you can go there during the day for a drink (I never drink during the day so I couldn't tell you a good place to grab a drink during the day), however, I know it's open by 10 pm and as soon as you go in, you can turn to the left and go in the quiet bar side. That's normally where I go when I am at CJs. It's more quiet and the chairs are much more comfortable than the ones in the main area.

[QUOTE=Stykler;1955612]I'm a newbie to Jakarta, coming for a Christmas visit en route to Hong Kong and have a 3 night stay in the Mulia where I believe CJ's is located.

Can any of the Jakarta experts on this forum advise me if CJ's is a place you can sit down and have an undisturbed drink to relax, or is mongering major reason this place exists?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]To Stykler.

If you go there at 8 pm no many customer most girl don't arrive until 11 pm if you are a guest there don't need to paid for the cover charge even after midnight that is most of the action happen.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;1956774]To Stykler.

If you go there at 8 pm no many customer most girl don't arrive until 11 pm if you are a guest there don't need to paid for the cover charge even after midnight that is most of the action happen.

Fast Eddie 48.[/QUOTE]I wish I knew where the girls were before 11:00 PM. I'd prefer to complete my business earlier in the evenings. Any advice?

[QUOTE=Stykler;1955612]I'm a newbie to Jakarta, coming for a Christmas visit en route to Hong Kong and have a 3 night stay in the Mulia where I believe CJ's is located.

Can any of the Jakarta experts on this forum advise me if CJ's is a place you can sit down and have an undisturbed drink to relax, or is mongering major reason this place exists?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hi there.

The answer to your question is "yes", you may have an undisturbed drink to relax there. Agent 007, James Bond does that sort of thing all the time. From a technical point of view though, you may need to examine your personality type and compulsiveness. If you like to stare at the floor in order to relax or you are like our friend Mr Bond, a quiet drink at CJ's will be a breeze.

However, if you are like me and like gaze around and wonder about things when you have a drink, then CJ's may not be well suited to your relaxation program. For instance you will notice ladies looking at you as if you are really agent 007. Avoid eye contact at all costs.

The trick at this point is to ignore all the other smoking, pot bellied, balding agent 007's in the bar and just enjoy that these ladies have finally realised what a Lothario you are. Maybe blow a few smoke rings to reinforce your air of nonchalance and to further relax.

You may now finish your drink 10 $ US poorer and return to your room to work on that sales quote feeling very much relaxed.

Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;1957113]Hi there.

The answer to your question is "yes", you may have an undisturbed drink to relax there. Agent 007, James Bond does that sort of thing all the time. From a technical point of view though, you may need to examine your personality type and compulsiveness. If you like to stare at the floor in order to relax or you are like our friend Mr Bond, a quiet drink at CJ's will be a breeze.

However, if you are like me and like gaze around and wonder about things when you have a drink, then CJ's may not be well suited to your relaxation program. For instance you will notice ladies looking at you as if you are really agent 007. Avoid eye contact at all costs.

The trick at this point is to ignore all the other smoking, pot bellied, balding agent 007's in the bar and just enjoy that these ladies have finally realised what a Lothario you are. Maybe blow a few smoke rings to reinforce your air of nonchalance and to further relax.

You may now finish your drink 10 $ US poorer and return to your room to work on that sales quote feeling very much relaxed.

Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]This may be the post of the year.

[QUOTE=Behemoth;1955749]Trip report for Jakarta / Bali visit earlier this month.

Hotel Alexis: wasn't too interested in their lounge, so headed straight to their 7th floor bathhouse. Entry was 140 k, which gets waived off if you take a girl. Place gets crowded really quick, and you might end up sharing a couch with other folks. Mamasans are generally non-pushy and pretty helpful. Selection-wise, it's like a fucking UN conference in there. Locals, Chinese, Thais, Vietnamese and a couple of CIS girls as well. Was quoted a little over 1 million for locals and 2 for imports. Picked a hot Chinese girl despite mamasan's recommendation of Viets. In hindsight, should've listened to her. The Chinese girl turned out to be a total starfish, enthusiastically offering over 15 seconds of CBJ and over 2 positions. Finished quick and got the fuck out of there with a very light wallet.

The'heaven spa (Kelapa Gading branch): battled through a fucking hellhole of a 1.5 hour traffic to get there. Was presented with 2 options at the counter: around 375 k for a normal massage with no extras, and about 740 k for an all-in massage. Took the all-in option and selected a petite babe that mami recommended. You have to select the girl from an image gallery on mami's iPad, no option to see in person. Their "VIP" rooms are pretty basic and lack a shower...[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review.

Emporium Spa. That's on Hayem Wuruk / Gajah Madah right? Is there an entrance fee?

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;1957113]Hi there.

The answer to your question is "yes", you may have an undisturbed drink to relax there. Agent 007, James Bond does that sort of thing all the time. From a technical point of view though, you may need to examine your personality type and compulsiveness. If you like to stare at the floor in order to relax or you are like our friend Mr Bond, a quiet drink at CJ's will be a breeze.

However, if you are like me and like gaze around and wonder about things when you have a drink, then CJ's may not be well suited to your relaxation program. For instance you will notice ladies looking at you as if you are really agent 007. Avoid eye contact at all costs.

The trick at this point is to ignore all the other smoking, pot bellied, balding agent 007's in the bar and just enjoy that these ladies have finally realised what a Lothario you are. Maybe blow a few smoke rings to reinforce your air of nonchalance and to further relax.

You may now finish your drink 10 $ US poorer and return to your room to work on that sales quote feeling very much relaxed.

Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]This is Gold! Post of the year! I have just soiled my pants with laughter.

Will I have to take up smoking?

[QUOTE=Jvosta;1957280]Thanks for the review.

Emporium Spa. That's on Hayem Wuruk / Gajah Madah right? Is there an entrance fee?[/QUOTE]Jalan Pacenongan Raya to be precise. Walking distance from RedTop Hotel if you're looking for landmarks. Yes there was an entrance fee, but can't remember exactly how much since it got waived off after I selected a girl inside. Probably was in the range of 100-130 k.

[QUOTE=Behemoth;1955749]Trip report for Jakarta / Bali visit earlier this month.

Hotel Alexis: wasn't too interested in their lounge, so headed straight to their 7th floor bathhouse. Entry was 140 k, which gets waived off if you take a girl. Place gets crowded really quick, and you might end up sharing a couch with other folks. Mamasans are generally non-pushy and pretty helpful. Selection-wise, it's like a fucking UN conference in there. Locals, Chinese, Thais, Vietnamese and a couple of CIS girls as well. Was quoted a little over 1 million for locals and 2 for imports. Picked a hot Chinese girl despite mamasan's recommendation of Viets. In hindsight, should've listened to her. The Chinese girl turned out to be a total starfish, enthusiastically offering over 15 seconds of CBJ and over 2 positions. Finished quick and got the fuck out of there with a very light wallet.

The'heaven spa (Kelapa Gading branch): battled through a fucking hellhole of a 1.5 hour traffic to get there. Was presented with 2 options at the counter: around 375 k for a normal massage with no extras, and about 740 k for an all-in massage. Took the all-in option and selected a petite babe that mami recommended. You have to select the girl from an image gallery on mami's iPad, no option to see in person. Their "VIP" rooms are pretty basic and lack a shower. The girl was just as cute in person as in her pics, so no photoshop scam there. Gave a really good, relaxing massage followed by an unhurried BJ and sex. Fantastic GFE and left very happy.

Kimochi spa (Mangga besar branch): located bang opposite the Travel hotel, so you can use that as a landmark to get here. Place looks seedy as shit on the outside and the inside. Entered the smoke-filled bar area and ordered a drink. They have the pictures of the therapists on one wall and their availability on another. Unfortunately, their star performer the infamous no. 33 wasn't working that day. Picked Luna, who was apparently "good service all OK no problem". I chose the VIP room, which was dingy as shit. The girl made up for that though, starting with an excellent massage and followed by an intense make love session. About 220 K for massage and room + 400 k for make love. Visit this place if you 're looking for great service but don't mind the shithole of an ambiance.

Emporivm spa: easily my favorite joint this trip. I made 3 visits to this place and never left disappointed. Emporivm is purely a fuck joint though. You won't get a massage here. You enter the spa area and sit at a couch, the girls will be spread out on couches opposite to yours. 1.2 m for "VIP" girls and 800 k for regular ones. I found the regular ones to be hotter and more interested than the VIP ones who were dozing off at their couches. Picked a 20 year old hottie. You either get 1.5 hours with her in the room or opt to have 30 minutes in the pool and 1 hour in the room. I chose the latter and changed into shorts and bathrobe. She changed into a 2 piece and joined me in the pool, sitting in my lap and engaging in underwater "sports". When I was stiff and ready she took me to the room for an hour of even more sports. Excellent GFE and attitude with all 3 gals I selected, will highly recommend this place.

Hotel Classic:

There are 3 levels to explore: bunker, 2nd and 5th. Entrance is 30 k. I went there a bit early in the evening, so the 2nd level was nearly deserted. Headed to level 5 and spent a couple hours drinking there. Very pushy mamasans who won't leave you the fuck alone and keep bringing in one girl after another, even after you tell them that you want to finish your drink and look around first. Huge selection of girls spread out over different couches, each "controlled" by a different mamasan. Prices are 325 k for one and 525 k for 2 - includes the price of the room, which is very clean and decent. Performances though, could be wildly differing. Threesomes will be mostly likely a disaster, with the girls talking amongst themselves and hurrying to get you off. Taking one girl is the safe course, I thought, but even that could be a hit or miss. But at such dirt cheap rates, I'm not complaining.

Bunker also had a similar setup: 30 k entry, 400 k for 1 and 800 k for 2- mamasan called it the "one plus one" offer although there's no discount on the second. After my previous 3 some disaster, decided to pick just one this time. A sexy young one who smiled the most out of the lineup. Holy fucking hell, turned out to be the best decision ever. She gave me the best blowjob of my life and DT'd for what seemed like an eternity. Even though I already had 2 pops earlier that day, I couldn't last for more than 10 minutes with this fiery sex machine. Redeemed the evening.

Grand Boutique Spa (Orchardz Hotel Bandara / Tangerang): Orchardz has a spa on the second floor. If you're a guest here, you could order a girl to your room as well. 2 packages were on offer: about 400 k for normal massage and about 700 k for all-in (think they called it the "butterfly paket" Wasn't shown a lineup or pics; they just sent a girl to the room. Good-looking girl with great massage skills and very eager to please in bed. A great session and a perfect end to the trip.[/QUOTE]Nice FR bro. Can you please share more about location, which part of Jakarta are they. I am going to stay in south Jakarta around Kunigan city.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Kodja;1956910]I wish I knew where the girls were before 11:00 PM. I'd prefer to complete my business earlier in the evenings. Any advice?[/QUOTE]Your old haunts like Kartika are still there and still open prior to 11 pm. Actually, all of brothels up north are open and kicking by 4 pm. You've been posting here a while, I think you know the ropes pretty well already. We would all love for free lancers to be readily available prior to 11 pm like they were in the early 2000's when you could go to pasaraya during the afternoon and top gun at 6 pm and find girls, but it seems those days are gone. These days you can use wechat to send a "massage girl" to your room, but there is no guarantee that the girl will look like her photo. I have had pretty good success with wechat massage services overall, but I have had a few bad ones as well. If they show up not looking like the girl they promised, I just send them back, so it's no loss. You can also use Tinder or other phone apps to meet girls and they may come to your room. Once you do meet free lancers at the bars and get their phone numbers, they will come to your room prior to 11 pm if you want.

[URL]https://www.google.co.th/maps/place/Emporium[/URL]+Hotel / at -6. 1647901,106. 8262967,15 z / data=!4 m2!3 m1!1 s0 x0:0 x5 aba9 e536 a5 dc760?sa=X&ved=0 ahUKEwiDi5 vPrIvQAhUHMo8 KHZBlBpEQ_BIIfTAP.

[QUOTE=TConor;1957645][URL]https://www.google.co.th/maps/place/Emporium[/URL]+Hotel / at -6. 1647901,106. 8262967,15 z / data=!4 m2!3 m1!1 s0 x0:0 x5 aba9 e536 a5 dc760?sa=X&ved=0 ahUKEwiDi5 vPrIvQAhUHMo8 KHZBlBpEQ_BIIfTAP.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but were you joking? That map shows a sunglasses store. In Thailand.

Anyhow, this is the location:

[URL]https://www.google.co.in/maps/dir/[/URL]'/ emporivm+Jakarta / at -6. 1647855,106. 7562561,12 z / data=!3 m1!4 b1!4 m8!4 m7!1 m0!1 m5!1 m1!1 s0 x2 e69 f5 da3 a96458 f:0 x5 aba9 e536 a5 dc760!2 m2!1 d106.8262967!2 d-6. 1647901?hl=en.

[QUOTE=ItsEnjoy;1957565]Nice FR bro. Can you please share more about location, which part of Jakarta are they. I am going to stay in south Jakarta around Kunigan city.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Some of these are in Northern region (Alexis, Grand Boutique Tangerang). Others are clustered around Central Jakarta. Staying at hotels like Favehotel pasar baru / Redtop / Grand Mercure / G7 etc would mean shorter commute to places like Classic, Emporivm, Malio etc.

[QUOTE=Behemoth;1958177]Some of these are in Northern region (Alexis, Grand Boutique Tangerang). Others are clustered around Central Jakarta. Staying at hotels like Favehotel pasar baru / Redtop / Grand Mercure / G7 etc would mean shorter commute to places like Classic, Emporivm, Malio etc.[/QUOTE]While that would ensure shorter commutes to the brothels in north Jakarta, Kuningan City is not really what I consider to be "south" Jakarta. It's basically central since it's as north as you can get in the area flagged as south Jakarta. It just depends what you want. If your only goal is sex in brothels, then staying in mangga besar is great. However, the Kuningan City area is a fairly nice area in Jakarta. The areas like mangga besar with the hotels that are near the brothels are in a crap area of the city.

Well I think there's been nothing but positive comments about this place Vins Lounge, Spa and Karaoke in pondoh Indah so I figured I had to check it out. After a late lunch at Gandaria City Mall I took a cab over; however, it was extremely difficult to find as there was no signage. It looked like a boarded up store front so something must of happened. But anyway found out it was open and I guess if you're in the area and only have 200 k on you and don't want to go to an ATM for more cash its an ok deal for a moderately reasonable massage and a blow job finish at 180 k. The girls are maybe low 7's at best and I think I'm being a bit generous. As you walk in the place it has a distinct look of a underground club. The massage rooms are not very clean and the shower area is horrible. Now I went to the Vins Lounge using the address shown on another website, Jalan Sultan Iskandar Muda 7 D. But anyway I would not make any effort to go back to this place and IMHO the upstairs area where the massages are given is pretty down market.

[QUOTE=Zuka55;1954566]Hewwo. Zuka has arrived in Jakarta. Took a Damri bus from soekarno-hatta to Gambir (40.000), then proceeded to my hotel in a cab. Jakarta seems as hectic as usual. On my first night went to jl. Jaksa for a beer. Quite fun, though the girls are so so, didn't asked the price. Instead went to Pen-J. Most of the clubs there pretty same, funky kota and mostly local guys, saw maybe 3 other bules. Small bintang costs 30.000. My favorite bar is L. A, found a girl there, took her upstairs. 21 yo from Puncak. Price 330.000. Sex was surprisingly good. After that walked to Jakarta station and ordered gojek. Earlier saw some girls sitting under the flyover from Pullman to Grand Indonesia and putting on makeup. I don't know if they are for take or not, didn't asked, too many people around. Looked quite young too. That's all for today. My first post in Jakarta forum. Was fun reading old posts from 2002 until today, learned a lot about the scene and the recent history of Jakarta too.[/QUOTE]Star Moon Bar at Pen J's is having a promo right now with girls for 280 k.

[QUOTE=ABCinLA;1958680]Star Moon Bar at Pen J's is having a promo right now with girls for 280 k.[/QUOTE]Only before 8 pm and the rooms smell like a sewer. I don't think it's worth saving the 50 k going there.

Hi fellow mongers!

I'm travelling for the first time to Jakarta tomorrow for work where I'll be staying for 3 days.

I will then have another 3 days to spare but doesn't know where to go!?

Can anyone give me a piece of advice? I don't want to go to Bali but is there some other places where I can just chill out at beaches yet find some action in the evenings?

I am slowly settling in S'pore where I'll be based for the next 2 years and getting used to the scene here. Feel free to reach out if you need any insight on the Lion city.

Cheers,

Have fun and play safe.

AC.

Hello forum,

I am in Jakarta on a business trip. Haven't got much time to explore the scene here so have zeroed down on Emporivm Spa for a session. Just have one small query: Do they accept International Credit Cards?

Would sincerely appreciate a reply. Also, Any other tip or pointers / Recos about this place and the choices available there would be most welcome.

Thanks in Advance and Greetings.

P. S: I'm always a P. M away for anyone here travelling to India.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=ChuckNorris85;1958879] have zeroed down on Emporivm Spa for a session. Just have one small query: Do they accept International Credit Cards?

Would sincerely appreciate a reply. Also, Any other tip or pointers / Recos about this place and the choices available there would be most welcome.
[/QUOTE]Of all the places in Jakarta to choose, I find it bizarre that you would choose Emporivm spa over any other. I don't think the quality there is as good as many other places in town. It's a good place, but to single that particular place out is a bit odd in my opinion.

They do accept International Cards from the USA. I have no idea if they accept them from India.

As I was staying in the Grogol area for a few days I decided to check out Medika Bar on Daan Mogot especially as it was reported that it might of been renovated / improved or something happened. At best IMHO it might of gotten a good dusting or a semi cleaning and that's it. But anyway left early around 530 pm and did see a total of around 35 girls show up for work who are available from 320 k to 360 k. Definitely nothing approaching a semi stunner could be found and left me desiring to flee back to FM1 to try my luck there. At least with FM1 the rooms are better that Classic / Hotel Travel. As I didn't take a girl from Medika I can only guess how the rooms are and would hazard a guess that maybe on the Pen J high side. Definitely nothing at Medika to make one go out of his way to get there. At least with the nearby FM1 you do get a b'Fashion type environment and a chance of getting a stunner for 275 K. On past visits that has happened to me but not this trip.

Incidentally did meet a Japanese guy working in Australia as a dance instructor or did pick the cutest girl of the sad bunch who had a nice slim figure, cute face but god awful tattoo across her chest. He mentioned that the prior night he agreed to a CJ freelancer's request to spend the night with him for 1,000 k. He originally was intending to just have a few drinks and to just gawk. I was too polite to ask how she looked but did mentioned to him that he probably had the look of someone who could give any woman a good slamming.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1958922]Of all the places in Jakarta to choose, I find it bizarre that you would choose Emporivm spa over any other. I don't think the quality there is as good as many other places in town. It's a good place, but to single that particular place out is a bit odd in my opinion.

They do accept International Cards from the USA. I have no idea if they accept them from India.[/QUOTE]Hi there,

Thank-you for the reply. Sincerely appreciate it. This trip was unexpected and therefore I couldn't delve much to Rtff. Of the limited posts I came across, This particular place appeared the most appealing and Hygienic. Thank-you for the heads up about the quality part. I would be pleased if regular members here can pitch in with their inputs on the same. It's just that since I am cramped for time on this short trip, I can afford a single or at max a couple of visits only.

Would appreciate the favor from fellow members here.

Greetings.

[QUOTE=ABCinLA;1958948] At best IMHO it might of gotten a good dusting or a semi cleaning and that's it.[/QUOTE]You obviously have never been there prior to the renovation. For sure, they have worked on that place. It used to have curtains for the doors to the rooms. Now it has doors to the rooms. Haha. Considering you didn't even go to the rooms though and went there during the afternoon, I wouldn't say that report is completely accurate. I do agree that going there at 4 pm is not the best time to go.

Try that place late at night around 11 pm. It's a place similar to Milles where the trippers go. It's rocking late at night. For me, it's far away, so I rarely go. I do like one of the girls who dances there on occasion though so I do visit her sometimes. If you are near there, it's a decent option. I would never stay in that area though, so I wouldn't recommend to anyone that they stay at a hotel near there unless they have to for work.

[QUOTE=ABCinLA;1958948]but did mentioned to him that he probably had the look of someone who could give any woman a good slamming.[/QUOTE]You said that to another man? Awkward.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1958381]While that would ensure shorter commutes to the brothels in north Jakarta, Kuningan City is not really what I consider to be "south" Jakarta. It's basically central since it's as north as you can get in the area flagged as south Jakarta. It just depends what you want. If your only goal is sex in brothels, then staying in mangga besar is great. However, the Kuningan City area is a fairly nice area in Jakarta. The areas like mangga besar with the hotels that are near the brothels are in a crap area of the city.[/QUOTE]Thanks bro for the suggestions. Kunigan city suits me because of my work location. In case if I don't get any other good option will try CJ at Mulia because I would like to have good stuff. Don't know how's Shangrela is it better then Mulia?

I would be in Pullman at central Jakarta for day long meeting for 2 days my try Alexix that time. In case there is any good option available please suggest.

Thanks in advance.

Enjoy.

Going to Jakarta again early December, if anyone are up for some fun let me know. I will probably be alone most evenings and better have some fun together if someone want to join. Dec 1-5.

[QUOTE=ItsEnjoy;1959259]
I would be in Pullman at central Jakarta for day long meeting for 2 days my try Alexix that time. In case there is any good option available please suggest.[/QUOTE]Alexis is the place that is furthest away. However, if you are at the Pullman, you are quite close to Malioboro. Or even Hotel Classic, Emporivm, Travel, Sun City, Kartika, and all of those Mangga Besar places. Alexis is probably another half hour further away than those places.

Hey all,

Had a few nice massages the this month at Delta Spa opposite Manga Dua Square North Jakarta.

2 Hours massage followed by happy ending. I can recommend Sisi and Ocha, both early twenties, slim, Ocha prettier but Sisi had the better handjob technique.

Tips for handjob are optional (I normally give 100 - 200 k), Room charge around 600 k.

Going to try Alexis this weekend (with 2 m budget), Can anyone tell me about the quality of girls there (specifically CIS ones) in terms of looks? Could they be classed as models?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1958979]You said that to another man? Awkward.[/QUOTE]We got down to brass tacks which I do with lots of fellow asian mongers and he said other stuff that I wouldn't want to offend anyone by repeating.

[QUOTE=Jvosta;1959838]

Going to try Alexis this weekend (with 2 m budget), Can anyone tell me about the quality of girls there (specifically CIS ones) in terms of looks? Could they be classed as models?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]You won't get any imports in this budget at Alexis. You can get local girls though. Prices for imports start from 2. 3 Mn. Better to carry 3 Mn as you would also be buying some drinks and would tip as well.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1959734]Alexis is the place that is furthest away. However, if you are at the Pullman, you are quite close to Malioboro. Or even Hotel Classic, Emporivm, Travel, Sun City, Kartika, and all of those Mangga Besar places. Alexis is probably another half hour further away than those places.[/QUOTE]Thanks smoothly for the advice.

[QUOTE=Jvosta;1959838]
Had a few nice massages the this month at Delta Spa opposite Manga Dua Square North Jakarta.[/QUOTE]Glad you enjoyed, but that is the absolute worst Delta Spa in all of Jakarta. I would recommend any other Delta Spa over that one. All of the others are nice and clean. That one is a dirty old rat hole.

[QUOTE=ABCinLA;1959901]We got down to brass tacks which I do with lots of fellow asian mongers and he said other stuff that I wouldn't want to offend anyone by repeating.[/QUOTE]Kind of like in the movie Bad Grandpa where the Grandpa goes into the black male strip club and tells one of the male strippers that since he's a dancer he must have a big tootsie roll. Then the male dancer replies, "man, you better get the hell away from me".

Finally went to two spas on this trip which I've been thinking about. The first is Sumo which is about 2 alleyways from King Cross in Kelapa Gading (I think both are owned by the same group). The first though that entered my mind when I entered the place was that it looked like it was built a few years earlier than KC. Next I noticed the downstair facilities area was packed with locals who use it like a 24 hour fitness center and as a social gathering point. Girls on the first floor were much at ease chatting up with the known locals. Had to wait a bit to take a shower before finally making my way upstairs. Most guys didn't seem to do that. Anyway they had a room full of full service masseuses available for 720 k with hourly full service only from 800 k on up to well over a 1,000 k for foreigners. Well the 800 k bunch didn't look as good as the 675 k girls from KC so I figured to cut my losses by just doing a massage girl. Well of course the socalled masseuse figured this was my first time there plus a non local guy and tried to cut back huge on the massage and go nearly straight to the finish. Well I let her know in no uncertain terms I'll complain big time. I ended up with a moderately good performance. Well after finishing I stayed in the lounge area a bit and found the strippers numerically lacking at only 3 versus double at 6 for KC and the band also not in the same league. Obviously no lapdance girls. To conclude definitely a number 2 option behind KC, but who knows I might come back.

After some research Tematik a 30k cab ride from Jayakarta Kota central train station looked like a good huge spa center option. It was nice and had three pools, nice workout area and all the requisite facilities. This was a spa attached to a moderately substantial hotel like a Orchardz and was surprised it only had available 15 full service providers. But that was ok as a ran across someone who could give #33 from Kimochi a run for her money. Not only that, Ida had a firmer slightly slimmer body with much firmer tits. The only issue was the room with its padded floor and slim fulton (I like a bed to have sex on). Covered blowjob however, as I never pushed for anything more as I was too dazzled by her tits. Definitely on a future to do list.

BTW someone had mentioned they got a girl from Emporivm for only 800 k. I was surprised when I heard that as I remember paying 1,200 k for a regular back in 2015. VIPs were then 1350 k. Consequently, I walked over from Classic to talk to a mamasan. She informed me regulars were 1,065k with VIPs going for 1,265k which seem more realistic owing that this is the same group which controls Alexis Hotel.

[QUOTE=Frankie555;1955931]Again. No 32 to be avoided!

Saturday:

Alexis -.

Rarely splurge on this place due to Cost.

Pretty Viet took my eye and having had good luck with Viets here previously confirmed with Papi that she would be good service. He wasn't wrong!! Immediately started French kissing in room and you know you're in for a treat when the girl thoroughly washes your asshole in the shower. Immediately into BBBJ and rimming for a good 10 minutes! Great full session ended with CIM.

Expensive at 2.4 Juta.

Frankie[/QUOTE]About to finalize a visit to Alexis all the way from Pondok Indah. Don't wish to err in making choices when I am aware the traffic and commute is going to exhaust me already. Can you (or anyone else here) tell me how do I search for this particular Viet out there? Do they carry a number? Would be my first visit so I apologies if this sounds like a noob question. Would appreciate some leads on how to go about finding Viets with the quoted services on the Menu when I visit Alexis.

Cheers!

Wondering if anyone has experience or opinions on using web-based portals to find FLs? I've used one (MR) to great success in other countries but the listings of girls for indo are lacking in any comments or ratings.

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1960041]You won't get any imports in this budget at Alexis. You can get local girls though. Prices for imports start from 2. 3 Mn. Better to carry 3 Mn as you would also be buying some drinks and would tip as well.[/QUOTE]I personally do not find Alexis enjoyable and in fact very pricey. I can't really remember the actual price but it should be in the price range mentioned earlier. However, please be aware that you may be presented with a survey form after your session, and on it asking you how much tip you want to give by circling the desired amount. That amount will be tagged on top of your final bill.

Also, they are definitely paranoid about people taking photos with their phones. They have signs everywhere specifically saying no photos allowed. In fact, as soon as you stepped out of the elevator, a security guard would give you stickers to cover both the front and back camera lenses of your phone.

[QUOTE=ChuckNorris85;1961308]About to finalize a visit to Alexis all the way from Pondok Indah. Don't wish to err in making choices when I am aware the traffic and commute is going to exhaust me already. Can you (or anyone else here) tell me how do I search for this particular Viet out there? Do they carry a number? Would be my first visit so I apologies if this sounds like a noob question. Would appreciate some leads on how to go about finding Viets with the quoted services on the Menu when I visit Alexis.

Cheers![/QUOTE]Did you go?

I was about to go for the first time today, but rain season is hitting hard.

Also, 2. 4 m for a Viet girl seems Very expensive IMO.

Hope when I go, the quality of girls on offer are much better than Emporium, Orchards etc, to justify the price.

Hello?

I am going to Jakarta in 2 weeks time for 5 days and I have been studying this forum a lot by searching google map to locate the places and know whereabouts, but I have some doubts as below so please answer my questions.

1. Blok M is Blok M square or Blok M plaza? And inside the place are there many bars including Top Gun? And what time do the bars open and close?

2. Are the Blok M bars' working girls freelancers? I saw few posts that forum members saw the same girls at CJ's at late night.

3. What time Classic hotel 2nd floor spa open and what time is the best time for strip shows?

4. Credit card is widely accepted? And is it safe to use at spa, disco and bars?

I appreciate for your answers in advance.

Top Gun is a bar few meters north of Block M Plaza. It is found on Jalan Falatehan. You can ask anyone at the Plaza, people will happily assist you. So much information is already available in the forum.

BTW, why do you want to use your credit card? You can withdraw cash at an ATM and use the money for mongering.

[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;1961821] Credit card is widely accepted? And is it safe to use at spa, disco and bars? [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;1961821]Hello?

I am going to Jakarta in 2 weeks time for 5 days and I have been studying this forum a lot by searching google map to locate the places and know whereabouts, but I have some doubts as below so please answer my questions.

1. Blok M is Blok M square or Blok M plaza? And inside the place are there many bars including Top Gun? And what time do the bars open and close?

2. Are the Blok M bars' working girls freelancers? I saw few posts that forum members saw the same girls at CJ's at late night.

3. What time Classic hotel 2nd floor spa open and what time is the best time for strip shows?

4. Credit card is widely accepted? And is it safe to use at spa, disco and bars?

I appreciate for your answers in advance.[/QUOTE]1) Neither. It's on Jalan Pelatehan. Any taxi will know the street. It's just around the corner from Blok M Plaza and Blok M Square, but you aren't likely to find it the first time on your own. If I were you, I'd take a taxi even if going from Blok M Plaza or Blok M Square. The bars of interest are D's place, Top Gun and My Bar. D's place starts around 8 pm (close around 1 am), Top Gun starts around 10 pm (close around 2 am) and My Bar starts around 1 am (close around 4 or 5 am).

2) Yes. All freelancers (the dancers in Ds place are not really free lancers, they are paid to dance there. Then again, Karel has proven that those dancers at Ds can be taken home on their off days or after work.). Although there are occasionally some girls from Bats and Cjs, those Bats and CJs girls usually arrive at My Bar very late at night (after 2 am). But you never know, sometimes they do show up early. The Bats and CJs girls who come early are normally the ones sitting at a table in Top Gun with an open bottle of Whiskey at their table that they paid for themselves since they have sponsors sending them money each month. Normally, there is a certain group of girls who stick to Blok M. The Bats and CJs girls are former girls from the Blok who have moved up the social ladder.

3) Classic Bunker has dancers non stop from 8 pm till 2 am. Classic 2nd floor has dancers starting at 5 pm. Dancers are at 5, 7, 9, etc. The house band plays at 6, 8, 10, etc. If I want to see dancers, I much prefer Bunker over the 2nd floor. It's not so crowded. There is a nude dj at classic 2nd floor Wednesday nights and at Bunker on Thursday nights.

4) yes. Yes.

Thanks a lot Smoothy.

Actually, I was thinking of visiting 3-4 places per night to see the atmosphere and gauge the beauty level of girls, but it seems like the peak time for the's place, Top Gun, CJ's and BATS are about the same I should spread the visiting to them over my staying.

Do you think BATS girls and CJ's girls are worth paying more money than the girls from Top gun, the's place and My bar?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1962034]1) Neither. It's on Jalan Pelatehan. Any taxi will know the street. It's just around the corner from Blok M Plaza and Blok M Square, but you aren't likely to find it the first time on your own. If I were you, I'd take a taxi even if going from Blok M Plaza or Blok M Square. The bars of interest are D's place, Top Gun and My Bar. D's place starts around 8 pm (close around 1 am), Top Gun starts around 10 pm (close around 2 am) and My Bar starts around 1 am (close around 4 or 5 am).

2) Yes. All freelancers (the dancers in Ds place are not really free lancers, they are paid to dance there. Then again, Karel has proven that those dancers at Ds can be taken home on their off days or after work.). Although there are occasionally some girls from Bats and Cjs, those Bats and CJs girls usually arrive at My Bar very late at night (after 2 am). But you never know, sometimes they do show up early. The Bats and CJs girls who come early are normally the ones sitting at a table in Top Gun with an open bottle of Whiskey at their table that they paid for themselves since they have sponsors sending them money each month. Normally, there is a certain group of girls who stick to Blok M. The Bats and CJs girls are former girls from the Blok who have moved up the social ladder.

3) Classic Bunker has dancers non stop from 8 pm till 2 am. Classic 2nd floor has dancers starting at 5 pm. Dancers are at 5, 7, 9, etc. The house band plays at 6, 8, 10, etc. If I want to see dancers, I much prefer Bunker over the 2nd floor. It's not so crowded. There is a nude dj at classic 2nd floor Wednesday nights and at Bunker on Thursday nights.

4) yes. Yes.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;1962049]

Do you think BATS girls and CJ's girls are worth paying more money than the girls from Top gun, d's place and My bar?[/QUOTE]Yep, they are worth more money. They are better quality. The best looking girls are in the brothels up north. But for free lancers, bats and cjs have the best action. You can find some good ones on the blok at times, but the quality is normally less than at cjs or bats. Girls from CJs and BATS will range between 1 million and 2. 5 million depending on the girl and the day of the week. Girls at blok m are often ok with 500 k and almost always ok with 700 k (although some will want 1 juta).

I often visit Jakarta and have already been there five times. I always stay up North, mostly along or near Jalan Gajah Madah / Jalan Hayam Wuruk. Would you mind sharing the details of the brothels where one can get very good looking and young girls as you mentioned. Thank you.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1962288] The best looking and youngest girls are in the brothels up north.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jvosta;1961795]Did you go?

I was about to go for the first time today, but rain season is hitting hard.

Also, 2. 4 m for a Viet girl seems Very expensive IMO.

Hope when I go, the quality of girls on offer are much better than Emporium, Orchards etc, to justify the price.[/QUOTE]Same here. I had no idea about the rainy season and the recent early evening thunderstorms have played a big dampener given I have to commute all the way from Pondok Indah in South Jakarta. Anyway, I will be visiting it for sure. Will post here as and when.

Well, I was kind of sure that there exists only one Emporium in Jakarta that is famous and mostly has all positive reviews only, in this Forum.

But it seems there's more to it. Jakarta100 Bars website tells me there are 2 Emporium Spas in the city and Google Maps suggest they are located about 2. 5 Kms apart from each other.

Now, Which one of these two is the one that regulars here are all praises about?

Also, I have a query about the the the'Heaven Spa. Is there any difference in Quality of Girls between their Kelapa Gading and Grand Wijaya properties?

Looking for inputs from regular members here.

Thanks in advance.

Chuck.

The Emporium that many people have referred to here is on Japan Pecenongan near to Alila Hotel or Red Top Hotel.

[QUOTE=ChuckNorris85;1962546] Well, I was kind of sure that there exists only one Emporium in Jakarta. Jakarta100 Bars website tells me there are 2 Emporium Spas in the city. Now, Which one of these two is the one that regulars here are all praises about [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manfield04;1962338]I often visit Jakarta and have already been there five times. I always stay up North, mostly along or near Jalan Gajah Madah / Jalan Hayam Wuruk. Would you mind sharing the details of the brothels where one can get very good looking and young girls as you mentioned. Thank you.[/QUOTE]They are mentioned here all the time. Malioboro, Alexis, Classic, Travel, King Cross, etc. Of course there are many more, but those are some of the big ones.

Hello?

I would like to ask How much do you normally spend time at Malioboro, Classic, Travel, Alexis and King Cross?

I read a lot of reports and it seemed like you guys go there, sit then drink few beers then go up to do sessions and then call it a day because I did not read any reports about the dancers (what kind of dance they dance, live music bands, etc).

Or maybe it is not worth mention? Or even maybe they are not the places to sit, relax, watch the shows and listen to the musics? Due to mamasan's push or their shame looks at you?

Oh, I know all these places. I thought you were referring to 'real' brothels like you see in Amsterdam, Mumbai, Kolkata or Kalijodo.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1962841] They are mentioned here all the time. Malioboro, Alexis, Classic, Travel, King Cross, etc. Of course there are many more, but those are some of the big ones.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manfield04;1962977]Oh, I know all these places. I thought you were referring to 'real' brothels like you see in Amsterdam, Mumbai, Kolkata or Kalijodo.[/QUOTE]Have you been to the Pen J area which is near the Jayakarta communter train station. Seven moderate size bars, more downmarket than not, no entry fee and about 20 to 50 girls each from 280 k (ok promo rate) to 380 k. IMHO lots of young women and you will run into a stunner once in awhile. I personnally have stepped in, take a quick look and then move on if someone doesn't strike my fancy.

I went to Tematik spa recently. The girl they gave me was friggin awesome! For some reason, that place never gets any mention here. I won't share her number yet because I want to have her available when I return. Gems can be found anywhere in town. I'd marry her if she would have me. haha You can google search spa tematik and they have a blog site that shows their therapists.

[QUOTE=ABCinLA;1962989]I personnally have stepped in, take a quick look and then move on if someone doesn't strike my fancy.[/QUOTE]No Japanese dance instructor dudes there that met your fancy? (just kidding).

Frankly speaking, it's the first time I hear of this place. There are so many places to explore in Jakarta. I may try it during my next trip.

Well, I asked about the brothels since Smoothy mentioned beautiful girls can be found there. Otherwise, since I usually stay near Jalan Gajah Mada and Jalan Hyam Wuruk, there are lots of places with decent looking girls around.

[QUOTE=ABCinLA;1962989] Have you been to the Pen J area which is near the Jayakarta communter train station. [/QUOTE]

Although I have heard of this place, I have never visited it. While I was staying at FM 7 Hotel near the airport couple of years ago, one taxi driver did propose to take me there but since the hotel already had a good selection of girls, I declined.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1963013] I went to Tematik spa recently. The girl they gave me was friggin awesome! [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1963026]No Japanese dance instructor dudes there that met your fancy? (just kidding).[/QUOTE]I'll live, too old to let much of anything bother me now.

[QUOTE=Manfield04;1963046]I usually stay near Jalan Gajah Mada and Jalan Hyam Wuruk, there are lots of places with decent looking girls around.[/QUOTE]Yes, there isn't any one special place that has the young good looking girls. But most of the brothels up north like Malioboro, Classic, etc have plenty of young good looking girls. From Gajah Mada plaza, you can easily walk to some very good places, so I am sure this is not news to you.

Is Jakarta's Christian Chinese Governor Basuki Tjahaja Purnama good or bad for mongering? He still leads the polls for the next election. Would a Muslim be a better Governor? Though Basuki Tjahaja Purnama was formally named a suspect in a blasphemy investigation on Wednesday, after allegations that he insulted Islam sparked a violent mass protest by Muslim hardliners in the Indonesian capital, chances that he is found guilty are little. It's a compromise.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1963303]Is Jakarta's Christian Chinese Governor Basuki Tjahaja Purnama good or bad for mongering? [/QUOTE]

Obviously bad, perhaps even disastrous. Mongering options have notably declined under his tenure (and before when he was Jokowi's deputy).

Demolishing Kalijodo (the larges low-end RLD in Jakarta) is one of his latest achievements. Not a raid with a few arrests, but bulldozing the entire neighborhood down to the ground. He's actively suppressing the sex industry.

With the religious hardliners, I get an impression that they would just make a lot of noise and fake outrage, perhaps do a few raids for show (with warning in advance), but still happily accept the brown envelopes to let things go on as before. No such luck with the enlightened progressive bunch like Jokowi and Ahok.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1963910]Obviously bad, perhaps even disastrous. Mongering options have notably declined under his tenure (and before when he was Jokowi's deputy).

Demolishing Kalijodo (the larges low-end RLD in Jakarta) is one of his latest achievements. Not a raid with a few arrests, but bulldozing the entire neighborhood down to the ground. He's actively suppressing the sex industry.

With the religious hardliners, I get an impression that they would just make a lot of noise and fake outrage, perhaps do a few raids for show (with warning in advance), but still happily accept the brown envelopes to let things go on as before. No such luck with the enlightened progressive bunch like Jokowi and Ahok.[/QUOTE]No question that Ahok is bad for the hobby, but he may be the best from among the candidates for governor, the others of whom I have been told (unverified) lean towards hardline Islam. I guess this depends on whether indeed the non-progressive crowd would continue to let things be so long as the brown envelopes keep getting filled. Given some of the unfortunate changes generally in the degree to which the hardliners are asserting themselves, whether or not brown envelopes will continue to be sufficient to keep these places open is probably subject to debate (and by saying this I am not taking a side in the debate, as I don't really know which way these things are going).

As to Kalijodo, there are a couple of mitigating factors in terms of extrapolating to the entire hobby. First, as noted it was a low-end RLD and it is therefore unclear whether similar efforts will be made with reference to higher-end places. Second, I spoke with an Indonesian friend of mine who is quite knowledgeable about such things and his reaction was it was as much a matter of it being zoned as a green area and the effort to make it that, as it was an anti-prostitution move. Although this latter reason sounds like only part of the story, it would not be out of the ordinary for a progressive politician to start enforcing zoning laws that affect the environment. But yeah, I suppose there are many other zoning violations that are not being similarly enforced.

[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;1961821]1. Blok M is Blok M square or Blok M plaza? And inside the place are there many bars including Top Gun? And what time do the bars open and close?

2. Are the Blok M bars' working girls freelancers?[/QUOTE]Your basic questions were answered in a previous post, but just to share recent experience on Jalan Palatehan. I was there a week ago, had an evening free and decided to visit after a 7-year hiatus. Got down there from Sudirman by Busway (cheap / super fast / not crowded) and walked 2 min to the strip. What used to be bars is now gentrified to tourist hotels and regular businesses. Counted at least 5 empty spots where bars and restaurants had been operating. Even arriving at 10 pm there was NOBODY there on a Tuesday night, even in Top Gun. Quality of talent was devastatingly poor. Only one pair of girls stood out, which a group of guys came in and scooped up in under 15 min. I had expected the action to be happening earlier, but as was mentioned previously, it seems that midnight++ is where things start to happen. I had stayed until 1. 30 am, with not much happening at Top Gun and much less at MyBar and the's, so settled on a very slutty slim MILF whose "friend" came over to quote me IDR1 m for service. I told her to go away and told the Hot MILF 500 k for short time which was happily accepted. Lots of DFK'ing and groping in the back of the cab all the way to the hotel. Had a wild session to get the white out. Agreed rate was paid with 100 k added for taxi.

Easy to find Paletehan on Google Maps. Just search "Falatehan Hotel" and you will see it on the corner of Jalan Palatehan I, which is where the bars are located. If you walk up from the hotel, the's Place and MyBar are on the left and Top Gun is across the street on the right. Maybe I went on a slow night, but my experience was only a shadow of my bygone days. YMMV, so give it a go and tell us how it went.

Rest of the trip stuck to a known pimpette who delivered girls per my spec straight to my room.

Also lots of girls advertising massage on WeChat. Easy to search girls nearby using the "Discover" feature. You need to ask direct if the massage is "plus plus" by asking "massage or massage ++?" Some girls advertised "no ++", but offered full sex when asked. Full service quoted from IDR800 k to 1. 3 m. I asked a few for pics and confirmed no baby. If some of the girl's pics were accurate, not a bad rate for independents coming straight to the hotel, but not tried-and-tested. Enjoy Jakarta, AsianRain.

[QUOTE=AsianRain;1964168]Maybe I went on a slow night, but my experience was only a shadow of my bygone days. YMMV, so give it a go and tell us how it went.

Also lots of girls advertising massage on WeChat. Easy to search girls nearby using the "Discover" feature. You need to ask direct if the massage is "plus plus" by asking "massage or massage ++?" Some girls advertised "no ++", but offered full sex when asked. Full service quoted from IDR800 k to 1. 3 m. I asked a few for pics and confirmed no baby. If some of the girl's pics were accurate, not a bad rate for independents coming straight to the hotel, but not tried-and-tested. [/QUOTE]I completely agree with your post. Things on Blok M are not as good as there were back in the day. However, you can still find gems on occasion (just like pretty much anywhere else in town). I remember you posting a while ago about one of my old faves on the blok, Frida. She still shows up on occasion and still looks as good as ever if not better. Most of the girls of Frida's quality (including Frida) now have sponsors and don't show up so often. It was more fun in the old days when nobody would take these girls off the market and support them. Nowadays it seems to be the norm. I go to Top Gun mostly just to listen to the band and hang out. Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat are the nights to go. Sun, Mon and Tue are basically dead. But even a prime night like a Saturday night can be dead these days. I don't have high expectations when I go there, but I still usually end up having a good time.

I have also been using WeChat a lot. I have had good success with it. They do send photos and sometimes the girls match the photos, sometimes they do not. Sometimes they send a loser and I just get a massage at that point and send her home. Other times when they send a loser, I just send them home. When I get a good girl, It's pretty much a given that I will be shagging her. I find that once I luck into a good girl, I get her number and just call her directly after that. The first time I usually end up paying 200 k for the massage and between 600 and 800 k extra for the shag. But after that, when I call them directly, they are pretty much always fine with 700 k, sometimes even 500 k depending on the night of the week. I currently have 5 different WeChat girls in rotation that I have visiting. All 5 give a great massage and also great sex, so I haven't tried a new one in about a month. But I do recommend it.

I tried to use WeChat on my last trip but the girls were not able to communicate properly in English and seemed not to understand the requirements. I'll try again on my next trip and see how I can improve the communication to benefit from their services.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1964193] I have also been using WeChat a lot. I have had good success with it. [/QUOTE]

I have this app on my phone now but have no idea how to find girls. All I can do is communicate with current contacts in my phone. How do you do it?

[QUOTE=Manfield04;1964247]I tried to use WeChat on my last trip but the girls were not able to communicate properly in English and seemed not to understand the requirements. I'll try again on my next trip and see how I can improve the communication to benefit from their services.[/QUOTE]I have never had one come to my place who could speak English. If you want sex, all you have to say is "bisa ML?" That means "can we make love"? Or you can say "bisa special? Or "bisa plus plus"? "berapa harga" is how to ask the price. If you learn a few very simple phrases in bahasa indonesian, you should have no problem at all. Just go on google translate and type in the few phrases you need and it will tell you how to say them in bahasa. There isn't much communication necessary. If you want a girl who can speak English, prepare for the price to triple.

[QUOTE=Manfield04;1964247]I tried to use WeChat on my last trip but the girls were not able to communicate properly in English and seemed not to understand the requirements. I'll try again on my next trip and see how I can improve the communication to benefit from their services.[/QUOTE]In WeChat, you can long tap on a chat bubble and up will pop a box with one of the selections being "translate". The quality is not that good, especially if the girl is using shorthand Bahasa, but it usually can give you the gist. In addition, you can use Google Translate and cut-and-paste in your conversations. Use technology like the girls are doing. Unless you are trying to communicate esoteric escort-type requirements (e. G. Can I cum on your feet, can you wear a schoolgirl uniform, can you peg me with a strapon, etc.), it should do the job. The basics like kissing, blow job and fuck did not need translation for any of the girls I chatted. They can send you pics. They can video chat. Enjoy Jakarta, AsianRain.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1964193]I completely agree with your post. Things on Blok M are not as good as there were back in the day. However, you can still find gems on occasion (just like pretty much anywhere else in town). I remember you posting a while ago about one of my old faves on the blok, Frida. She still shows up on occasion and still looks as good as ever if not better. Most of the girls of Frida's quality (including Frida) now have sponsors and don't show up so often. It was more fun in the old days when nobody would take these girls off the market and support them. Nowadays it seems to be the norm. I go to Top Gun mostly just to listen to the band and hang out. Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat are the nights to go. Sun, Mon and Tue are basically dead. But even a prime night like a Saturday night can be dead these days. I don't have high expectations when I go there, but I still usually end up having a good time.

I have also been using WeChat a lot. I have had good success with it. They do send photos and sometimes the girls match the photos, sometimes they do not. Sometimes they send a loser and I just get a massage at that point and send her home. Other times when they send a loser, I just send them home. When I get a good girl, It's pretty much a given that I will be shagging her. I find that once I luck into a good girl, I get her number and just call her directly after that. The first time I usually end up paying 200 k for the massage and between 600 and 800 k extra for the shag. But after that, when I call them directly, they are pretty much always fine with 700 k, sometimes even 500 k depending on the night of the week. I currently have 5 different WeChat girls in rotation that I have visiting. All 5 give a great massage and also great sex, so I haven't tried a new one in about a month. But I do recommend it.[/QUOTE]Mmmm. Frida. Super memorable boofing session. Looks like I went on the slow blok night, so my poor luck. If I was making more visits there I would simply get the chat app contacts for the better girls and set up sessions. The few doable girls all had later model mobile phones, so I would have approached if I knew I was staying longer.

WeChat definitely looks like a source to be mined. Thanks for sharing and confirming it as a source of providers. Would you say that most of the girls are independents or are they agencies? My impression was that most of the girls were independent that claimed "no ++" on their ad, but offered sex after they knew I was a bule. But for some of the girls that offered sex straight out, I was suspecting agent. My experience with WeChat is really variable from country to country. In BKK the working girls I met (assuming they are girls) are nearly 100% independent. On the other hand, WeChat in Saigon is 99% pimp agent with 95% bait-and-switch. Thanks for sharing. Enjoy Jakarta, AsianRain.

[QUOTE=AsianRain;1964485]Would you say that most of the girls are independents or are they agencies? My impression was that most of the girls were independent that claimed "no ++" on their ad, but offered sex after they knew I was a bule. But for some of the girls that offered sex straight out, I was suspecting agent.[/QUOTE]In my experience, very few are independent. An agency sends the girl. I usually can pick from 4 to 6 different girls from any given wechat name. Even if it appears it is a wechat account for a single girl, I normally ask for photos of the therapists. And amazingly, I will get 4 to 6 picks pretty much invariably. Only twice has it actually been just that one girl. The funny thing is that many of the different wechat names will send photos of the same girls. When the girl arrives, I just get her number and call her directly the next time. The girls don't want to go through the agency unless they have to because they don't want to give the agency a cut. I find that being a bule can be a blessing or a curse with those wechats. Most of the girls are excited to have sex with a bule. However, I had one tiny little chinese looking girl recently refuse me since I was a bule thinking my dick would be too big. She wasn't that hot anyway, so it was no big loss.

[QUOTE=ABCinLA;1962989]Have you been to the Pen J area which is near the Jayakarta communter train station. Seven moderate size bars, more downmarket than not, no entry fee and about 20 to 50 girls each from 280 k (ok promo rate) to 380 k. IMHO lots of young women and you will run into a stunner once in awhile. I personnally have stepped in, take a quick look and then move on if someone doesn't strike my fancy.[/QUOTE]Was there one night and saw a guy get worked over by the doormen. He wasn't in a very good way at the end and everone was too scared to help him. If you love the smell of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] in the showers and have ok bahasa it can work but it's not for the faint hearted.

OS.

Here are some pics from Hotel Classic Bunker recently. I normally just go there for the nude dancers since they have nude dancers non-stop from 8 pm till 2 am. I think the cover charge there is like 30 or 40 k but that is cancelled if you spend any money there so I never worry about it. One lady drink for a dancer is 50 k, so even if I just buy one drink for a dancer I don't have to pay the cover charge. It's rare I don't buy quite a few drinks for the dancers though, I like that. I decided to take a chick seated on the couch this particular night. The rooms there are quite big and nice. I like the theme to the rooms and the hallways to the rooms, they are kind of like the Pirates of the Caribbean ride at Disney World. Nice big mirror on the wall to watch what's going on.

Price was 300 k for one hour for the room and full sex with the girl inclusive.

Yes, there is quite a bit larger selection of girls at Hotel Classic on the second floor rather than bunker. However, it's a lot busier on the second floor as well. I like a place that isn't so busy. In my opinion, Classic Bunker is a much nicer experience than the 2nd floor.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;1964704]Was there one night and saw a guy get worked over by the doormen. He wasn't in a very good way at the end and everone was too scared to help him. [/QUOTE]From what I hear, some guy mentioned to them that they probably had the look of someone who could give any woman a good slamming. They took it as a homosexual come on.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;1964704]If you love the smell of (shite?) in the showers and have ok bahasa it can work but it's not for the faint hearted.[/QUOTE]Having been in LA Bar and Sari Ayu and taken girls from both, I can't say that I ever had an issue with the venues. Never felt unwelcome nor had any issues. Yes, these venues are VERY LOCAL and tucked in a spot that would seem intimidating to a newbie, but really I found them to be no less dumpy from the outside than Blok M bars. What I didn't like was the rooms with vinyl mattresses and a thin sheet, which got twisted the moment I laid down. I really need a proper non-squeaking mattress to enjoy my fucking. Even the beds in the old fuck boxes at Today Country, which had all the cachet of a storage locker, were better. Enjoy Jakarta, AsianRain.

[QUOTE=AsianRain;1964910]I found them to be no less dumpy from the outside than Blok M bars.[/QUOTE]Haha. The outside of the Blok M bars is as dumpy as you can get. Is it possible to find a dumpier street than that anywhere in the world? The difference between the 2 areas is the Blok M area is flooded with expats. The dirty streets of penjay are flooded with mostly lower class local customers. I don't think there is any question that Blok M is safer. I actually had a problem once at Penjay with some locals in the alley as I walked towards the taxis in the street. I have never had a problem at Blok M. I pretty much avoid penjay now after those 2 times there was actually human excrement on the floor of the showers. Even once was bad enough, but for it to happen again is completely ridiculous. I used to go there fairly frequently 20 years ago. But they haven't renovated and so many new nice places exist now at the same price that I dont see the point. Malioboro, Classic, King Cross, etc did not exist 20 years ago. They do now.

From what I understand, Classic Bunker has a special event with coming week where they have 2 nude DJs. I'm not sure which night, but that should be good. And of course, Classic is clean and safe as it is in a very nice venue with nice modern rooms and very easy to get a taxi from security. I can't guarantee the service from the girls will be any good. I find I have better luck at Bunker than at the 2nd floor with service. I have never had one ask for a condom for BJ there, but I have had them ask for one on the 2nd floor.

[QUOTE=AsianRain;1964910] Even the beds in the old fuck boxes at Today Country, which had all the cachet of a storage locker, were better. [/QUOTE]This cracked me up. Those Today Country rooms were definitely crappy. I wouldn't have thought it possible, but now that I think of it, you are right. The beds were actually better there. It's amazing how nice the rooms are at places like Classic and Malioboro these days compared to the old days. The worst bed I ever saw was at a place in Angola Africa. It was just a dirty mattress on the ground. I am 100% certain that it had never been cleaned. So I took the girl to my car instead and had my driver guard the car while I shagged her in the car.

Here are a couple of photos of a wechat massage chick. She's a tall one. 25 years old, about 170 cm and some pretty nice tits. Of all the girls who have visited, this girl gave the best actual massage I have ever had from any wechat girl. Awesome massage. I find that it's easier to find sex than an actual good massage on wechat.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1964919] " And of course, Classic is clean and safe as it is in a very nice venue with nice modern rooms and very easy to get a taxi from security" [/QUOTE]I have often been concerned about taking a taxi from venues such as Classic late at night or early in the morning by myself. Are there any places that it's unsafe to take a taxi from or are there any tips you can offer so I don't feel so anxious? Many years ago I had no problem with this but as I have got older I am less "gung-ho" late at night in Jakarta. I'm staying near Gajah Mada in a few weeks.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1964819]From what I hear, some guy mentioned to them that they probably had the look of someone who could give any woman a good slamming. They took it as a homosexual come on.[/QUOTE]Hey you're talking about my Japanese bodyguard when I go to places like this who probably can dance like a UFC fighter. But anyway I can't see any of the guards giving anyone a hard time at Pen J unless the guy was being a drunken fool.

[QUOTE=Kodja;1965236]I have often been concerned about taking a taxi from venues such as Classic late at night or early in the morning by myself. Are there any places that it's unsafe to take a taxi from or are there any tips you can offer so I don't feel so anxious? Many years ago I had no problem with this but as I have got older I am less "gung-ho" late at night in Jakarta. I'm staying near Gajah Mada in a few weeks.[/QUOTE]There are security guards at Classic. You can ask them to get you a taxi without you even walking out to the street. It's not a dangerous place at all. Gajah Madah is much more dangerous. LOL.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1965438] Gajah Madah is much more dangerous. LOL.[/QUOTE]I hope the LOL means you are joking! I don't plan to stay out too late during the few evenings I'm there next month but I am keen to get around safely to the usual haunts that are close to Gajah Mada.

Classic sounds pretty good to me.

I know BATS is a well known place for ages, but for me it seems recently it is having a bit of a new crowd of girls. From 2012 - 2015 I must admit it got a bit regular, but on my recent trip, seemed quite a few younger girls and only a few girls I had seen from previous trips. I'm back this coming week, and will certainly enjoy my time there again. For now, enjoy these pics from the last BATS girl I launched out with her very enthusiastic blowjob and anal performance! Video as well, if interested PM me and you can see me doggystyle pounding her asshole!

[QUOTE=Kodja;1965653]I hope the LOL means you are joking! [/QUOTE]I think the Hotel Classic and Gajah Mada areas are basically equal. They are both in crappy North Jakarta, so it's not like you are in a nice area of town in either spot. Regardless, Jakarta is one of the safest cities in the world if you ask me. So it's not an issue staying in a crap area. The only places you might have any problems are side streets on areas where there roads are made of dirt or not well lit. Neither Gajah Mada or Hotel Classic are like that.

Did anyone attend the lesbian show at Golden Hands last Friday? I hear the show was excellent.

[QUOTE=Jwolf96;1967044]I know BATS is a well known place for ages, but for me it seems recently it is having a bit of a new crowd of girls. From 2012 - 2015 I must admit it got a bit regular, but on my recent trip, seemed quite a few younger girls and only a few girls I had seen from previous trips. I'm back this coming week, and will certainly enjoy my time there again. For now, enjoy these pics from the last BATS girl I launched out with her very enthusiastic blowjob and anal performance! Video as well, if interested PM me and you can see me doggystyle pounding her asshole![/QUOTE]Awesome pics, thanks for sharing! I think I may have taken that girl before as well. If it's the same one, she gives one of the best BJ's I have ever had in my life. She is the only girl I have met in Jakarta who can truly deep throat. And she can use that long tongue to lick your balls while she deep throats. The girl has talent! Before she would deep throat, she would tell me "don't touch my head while I do this, or I will vomit", and the times I did not touch her head she did not vomit. She has that down to a science. Her right eye is a glass eye which was not a problem for me, but it was a first. Unfortunately, I discovered that she's a bit crazy so I doubt I would take her again (although I can't promise that, haha). However, the few times I took her I did not regret. I haven't seen her since around 2009 though. The BATS girls provide good service in general. In my opinion, those girls do the term LBFM proud. The problem these days is that they are overpriced.

Here is a brief reports of 2 days.

Staying at Ibis Tamarin.

Think the location is OK, in the central areas where you are in the half way to north part and south part. The.

Top Gun.

Went there at about 11 ish and it was about 1/3 full and the ration of ladies and the quality were somewhat disappointed.

CJ's.

Good atmosphere and facility as well as solid security.

Went there on Sat. Night and it was full of customers and hookers.

Did not try enough to hunt a lady whom I liked and took a girl at a last minute who was not my type. -Means not satisfactory.

Classic hotel.

Had a 1 girl season. Generally the ladies are 7 8 on a scale of 10 for Thai beauty scale.

Once you finish boom boom your session is also finish in the room with the lady.

Went to the basement to check Classic bunker, but there was only one entrance which was for Classic spa with cover charge 120,000 or so.

Travel hotel.

After Classic hotel I visited Travel and it had more ladies than Classic with better quality. Did not take anyone because as soon as I finished at classic hotel I visited here so not so horny to take another session.

Tease club.

Used Google map to go to Emporium spa and massage to go to Tease club, but could not find.

Maybe Google map is wrong? I even did not see any big building which should be enough or good to be a spa building.

Malioboro.

Good facility. Ladies from Viet. And China are a lot more beautiful than Indonesian girls, but the price is double and since we are in Indonesia there is no reason to take them.

They charge about 120. For entrance and sauna is included.

The dancing show started 9:30, but the dancers did not take off all the clothes, which I heard it is strip dancing. Hmmmm!

Bats.

Went on Sunday at 1:10 AM so it was not so crowded and did not see any beautiful ladies. Want to check the band.

I will go back to Classic buner (or spa) and travel hotel.

[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;1967533]
The dancing show started 9:30, but the dancers did not take off all the clothes, which I heard it is strip dancing. Hmmmm![/QUOTE]It depends on the night of the week and what the police allow that particular day. Sometimes they are naked, sometimes they are topless, sometimes they dance in full bikinis. For dancers, walk to the back side to Malio club attached to Malioboro and I believe they are always at least topless there.

[QUOTE=AsianRain;1964910] What I didn't like was the rooms with vinyl mattresses and a thin sheet, which got twisted the moment I laid down. I really need a proper non-squeaking mattress to enjoy my fucking. Even the beds in the old fuck boxes at Today Country, which had all the cachet of a storage locker, were better. Enjoy Jakarta, AsianRain.[/QUOTE]HI AR.

Your inbox is full, was trying to send you a PM.

OS.

WeChat is a virtual meat market in Jakarta. What is challenging however is to know whether the girl offering the 1 million massage and FS is anything like her profile pic.

[QUOTE=Jwolf96;1967044]I know BATS is a well known place for ages, but for me it seems recently it is having a bit of a new crowd of girls. From 2012 - 2015 I must admit it got a bit regular, but on my recent trip, seemed quite a few younger girls and only a few girls I had seen from previous trips. I'm back this coming week, and will certainly enjoy my time there again. For now, enjoy these pics from the last BATS girl I launched out with her very enthusiastic blowjob and anal performance! Video as well, if interested PM me and you can see me doggystyle pounding her asshole![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1964937]Here are a couple of photos of a wechat massage chick. She's a tall one. 25 years old, about 170 cm and some pretty nice tits. Of all the girls who have visited, this girl gave the best actual massage I have ever had from any wechat girl. Awesome massage. I find that it's easier to find sex than an actual good massage on wechat.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chacal60;1967795]WeChat is a virtual meat market in Jakarta. What is challenging however is to know whether the girl offering the 1 million massage and FS is anything like her profile pic.[/QUOTE]1 million is normal for a massage followed by full sex the first time they visit. However, I find that the ones who offer sex and no massage will offer 700 or 800 k up front in wechat. They normally arrive in about 15 to 20 minutes. If I don't like them because they don't look like their photo, I send them back.

So, I ticked off all the 3 places I had narrowed down on, over the course of last one week. Overall, All 3 visits turned out to be worth the buck.

Key learning: If you are going to try out locals, better brush up on your Bahasa. I assumed at least the common English words would be easily understood but that was not the case. The only let down was the effort it took to communicate. (However little that part may be).

Emporium: This place is worth all the hype it generates. Wonderful ambiance, very friendly staff and plenty of variety on the menu to choose from. I had thought of trying out Imports here but found the local chick more appealing. I have read from another member here how the imports did not seem as Interested as the locals here and found it to be surprisingly true. There was no eye contact or smiles from the Imports but the local appeared Inviting right from the outset. Only concern as the Mami told me: She knows little to no English. I went ahead regardless for she was too hot and friendly to resist. What followed was expected, Half an hour in the pool followed by an hour in the room. Both the places were clean, You get lockers assigned and Robe / slippers before entering the pool area. The room was very clean and modern. As I said, the only negative was communication. But it did not matter much overall. She was open to all the positions. Damages were a little over 1 m Including drinks plus tip. Left happy.

The Heaven: A big thanks to Smoothy bro for recommending this place. Since I am put up in the Southern part of the city, Grand Wijaya was relatively close-by. Ventured there on a Weekday evening and the place did not disappoint. Went to the 2'nd floor and was greeted well by the staff. I asked for the "All-in" option up-front and was quoted 720 k odd for the same. The lady at the reception asked me for the preference and I let her know the same. Subsequently, got escorted to another upper floor to the rooms. The girl was friendly and a fit for what I asked for. Again, She knew little English but I was slightly better prepared this time around. As expected, Off went her clothes the moment we exchanged the Initial greetings and the massage followed. It wasn't the best of experiences. The girl literally walks on your back holding the specially attached ceiling bars and it was painful at regular intervals. I tried to let her know I wasn't comfortable with it and she went soft on me thereafter. An excellent BJ, lots of foreplay and sex followed the massage. I found the place neat and worth the money.

Alexis: I had been in two minds about this place for a long time but finally decided to go ahead. I usually don't like places that are perennially crowded and have the feel of a "Market". A lot of what I read about Alexis gave me the sense of this "Market" feel and one specific report here that mentioned the place getting filled real soon and often times resulting in you struggling for place to sit with others on the same couch, terrified me. (This is the reason I never fancied a visit to places like Hotel Classic). I chose a weekday evening therefore, and I think that helped. Was not sure whether I would get the Imports I was looking for that day but thankfully I cracked Jackpot. Went straight to the Bathhouse. Asked for the Viets and was presented one. Fantastic experience, The DFK and Oral sex part stood out the most here compared to the other two places I visited. Not sure about locals or other foreign imports offered but I can most certainly vouch for the Viets. It is definitely very expensive compared to other joints in the city but I felt it worth an experience. Overall damages were 2 m plus but I would recommend a visit here for everyone travelling to Jakarta at least once.

[QUOTE=ChuckNorris85;1967871]So, I ticked off all the 3 places I had narrowed down on, over the course of last one week. Overall, All 3 visits turned out to be worth the buck.

Key learning: If you are going to try out locals, better brush up on your Bahasa. I assumed at least the common English words would be easily understood but that was not the case. The only let down was the effort it took to communicate. (However little that part may be)...[/QUOTE]Nice report, detailed and concise with very good intel. Thanks.

[QUOTE=ChuckNorris85;1967871]
Emporium: This place is worth all the hype it generates. Wonderful ambiance, very friendly staff and plenty of variety on the menu to choose from. I had thought of trying out Imports here but found the local chick more appealing. I have read from another member here how the imports did not seem as Interested as the locals here and found it to be surprisingly true. There was no eye contact or smiles from the Imports but the local appeared Inviting right from the outset.[/QUOTE]I don't know how you figure Emporium gets a lot of hype. It's only been mentioned on here a few times in the last 20 years. I have only been there twice myself and I have never given a report on the place here. Maybe you are finding it getting a lot of hype on some other forum. I have zero interest in spending a half hour in the pool with a girl prior to sex, so I don't find that aspect to be a big benefit. Even at Alexis, I skip that part. The girls just end up worrying about getting their makeup and hair wet. Emporivm is a good place to visit (just like many places in Jakarta), but I wouldn't say it has a lot of hype. If you like it though and think it's worth the money, that's great. They have some good special events there on occasion.

As far as the imports not giving eye contact or smiles, I think that depends on who you are and which imports you are talking about. As a white guy, I notice that the Uzbek girls will normally smile at me a lot more than they will smile at an Indian or Chinese guy. Vietnamese girls are every bit as friendly as locals, if not more so. Same with Thai. Chinese girls do seem to be more indifferent. I watch them, and they are mostly like that even with the Chinese guys, but they will smile more for a Chinese guy than they will for others. Those Chinese girls many times can't speak either English or Bahasa Indonesia so I think they should actually be cheaper than locals. In my opinion, the locals are much better value for money regardless.

At D'Heaven, the girl will specifically ask you if you want SHIATSU or not before she does it. Shiatsu is the type of massage where they walk on your back. I personally love Shiatsu so I always tell them yes. If you don't want them to walk on your back, just say "tidak mau shiatsu" and they will focus on only the normal massage.

I do find that the Vietnamese chicks usually do provide good service relative to the other chicks in these places. When they can speak some English. Of course, there are some good ones and bad ones of every type of girl so that is not a blanket statement. I have had some Vietnamese girls who spoke no English who where good, but some who were horrible. In my opinion, Alexis is over priced so I haven't been there in probably 5 years. But the girls there are nice looking.

It's tough being stuck in South Jakarta when you are looking for that kind of action.

Travel hotel.

Took 2 ladies. If you take 2 ladies from same sofa 525 k. If from different sofas then 700 k.

You can do 2 shags for 90 minutes.

As mentioned a few times here, taking 2 girls is no real fun, but cheaper than going one by one.

My damage was.

525 k for 2 ladies.

About 150 k for 3 bintang beers.

Ladies order 2 drinks and 2 pack of cigarettes. 125 k.

Tip 200 k.

Total about 1 M.

[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;1967960]
Took 2 ladies. If you take 2 ladies from same sofa 525 k. If from different sofas then 700 k.[/QUOTE]This I never knew. It seems those mamasans are getting quite a good cut of the action if that is the case.

In my understanding, ladies can sit any sofa they want, but if customer choose different mama's ladies then customer has to pay the full price of each which means no discount for the 2nd one.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1968049]This I never knew. It seems those mamasans are getting quite a good cut of the action if that is the case.[/QUOTE]

Last Monday, went to BATS at 11 ish and it was half full with customers and a few FLs.

The ratio of male customers to FLs was about 2:1 and no pretty to me as well as they were not young so as soon as finish my drink I moved to CJ's.

One bad point of Shangrila hotel is that it takes time to catch bulebird taxis so after waiting for 20 minutes I took Silver bird and the fare was about 70 K. (the minimum charge is 50 K).

At CJs, yesterday's band was Indonesian which was different from Sat. Sun (Western) and this band was also good.

There were also not so many FLs and most of them were not young enough so after having about 5 times circulation of the club I decided to grab one young girl who was not that pretty, but looked innocent and newbie to this professional industry.

We had few drinks and she got drunk (only 2 wines and 1 whiskey soda). So I decided to call it a day.

Realized that the Free lancer scene is not that big and not so many FLs, which means if you expect like Pattaya or BKK FL quantity and quality you need to lower your expectation a lot, otherwise you would not be able to pick up one.

[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;1968351]
Realized that the Free lancer scene is not that big and not so many FLs, which means if you expect like Pattaya or BKK FL quantity and quality you need to lower your expectation a lot, otherwise you would not be able to pick up one.[/QUOTE]Sunday, Monday and Tuesday are horrible nights for free lancers in Jakarta. But the rest of the nights are fine.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder though. She wasn't gorgeous, but on a totally dead night at BATS I thought this little girl was pretty cute. She was young 20's and sweet. My Indo friends would say she's ugly because she doesn't have white skin, but I don't agree with that way of thinking. The funny thing is that those Indo guys saying that they don't like girls with dark skin all have skin as dark or darker than this girl themselves. LOL.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1968693]

My Indo friends would say she's ugly because she doesn't have white skin, but I don't agree with that way of thinking. The funny thing is that those Indo guys saying that they don't like girls with dark skin all have skin as dark or darker than this girl themselves. LOL.[/QUOTE]She is a cutie. I'm always telling girls not to put that fake whitening cream on, or to not wear fake contacts to change their eye color. I tell them if I wanted a white girl I would get that back home. I like sultry dark skin and eyes, especially when followed up with good service in bed. Sometimes they understand, often they don't since they are so conditioned to think they are ugly because they have dark skin.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1968693]Sunday, Monday and Tuesday are horrible nights for free lancers in Jakarta. But the rest of the nights are fine.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder though. She wasn't gorgeous, but on a totally dead night at BATS I thought this little girl was pretty cute. She was young 20's and sweet. My Indo friends would say she's ugly because she doesn't have white skin, but I don't agree with that way of thinking. The funny thing is that those Indo guys saying that they don't like girls with dark skin all have skin as dark or darker than this girl themselves. LOL.[/QUOTE]Man, she is gorgeous.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1968693]Sunday, Monday and Tuesday are horrible nights for free lancers in Jakarta. But the rest of the nights are fine.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder though. She wasn't gorgeous, but on a totally dead night at BATS I thought this little girl was pretty cute. She was young 20's and sweet. My Indo friends would say she's ugly because she doesn't have white skin, but I don't agree with that way of thinking. The funny thing is that those Indo guys saying that they don't like girls with dark skin all have skin as dark or darker than this girl themselves. LOL.[/QUOTE]I'd take her in a heartbeat!. To hell with your Indo friends!.

I am curious to know how this not so gorgeous dark (girl charges compared to girls with white (skin. On another front, may be your Indo friends could be advised to try China, Japan or South Korea for white (Asian girls.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1968693] Beauty is in the eye of the beholder though. She wasn't gorgeous, but on a totally dead night at BATS I thought this little girl was pretty cute. She was young 20's and sweet. My Indo friends would say she's ugly because she doesn't have white skin, but I don't agree with that way of thinking. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manfield04;1969079]I am curious to know how this girl charges compared to girls with white skin.[/QUOTE]Considering she was at BATS, she was likely no cheaper than the lighter skinned girls. BATS girls are damn expensive these days. It's ridiculous.

But that doesn't mean the white skinned girls are better looking. They simply have lighter skin. We were in Classic Bunker recently and the girl they thought was the best looking was a girl I considered to be one of the ugliest in the place. They liked her because of her light skin and bigger nose. I had zero interest in her. If you want a light skinned girl, BATS is not likely the place for you. You are better served going to the brothels in North Jakarta. The light skinned free lancers seem to get snagged by the locals and put up in apartments, so you don't see so many light skinned free lance chicks. I am perfectly fine with the darker skinned girls. I think its a sexy contrast to my skin.

CJs does seem to have more lighter skinned girls than BATS. BATS has almost all western men for customers, so the darker skinned girls know they have a better chance there than at CJs which has a lot of asians, indians and arabs as well as westerners. Most Asians, Indians and Arabs are wanting those light skinned girls with bigger noses. LOL. Although Asians tend to like flat chested light skinned girls with the young little girl look too, and they cream their pants when they find a girl with pink nipples. Here's a story that cracks me up. I had an Indian friend visit Jakarta a couple of years ago and he stayed at the Mulia. I wasn't in town so I couldn't join him at CJs. But the next day after he visited CJs, I told him I bet I could guess which girl at CJs he liked. There was one girl going there at the time who was a bit chubby, about 175cm tall, light skin and a big nose. She wasn't very good looking in my opinion relative to the other girls there, but I know that almost all of the Indian and Arabic guys want a girl who looks like that rather than a small darker skinned exotic skinny hard body girl with a tiny nose. I tried her once to see why she was so popular and she definitely was nothing special in bed and her body was soft. I sent him a photo of her and he was shocked that I knew which one he took to his room. He was thinking I had a spy there that night. haha.

That's why when I see people rating girls on a 1 to 10 scale without posting a photo, I disregard the rating. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;1967533]
Top Gun.

Went there at about 11 ish and it was about 1/3 full and the ration of ladies and the quality were somewhat disappointed.[/QUOTE]All of these girls are from Top Gun. (Although I will say I believe that none of them were in Top Gun by 11 pm, they come in around midnight or 1 am at the earliest.).

[QUOTE=Ceegee;1968757]She is a cutie. I'm always telling girls not to put that fake whitening cream on, or to not wear fake contacts to change their eye color. I tell them if I wanted a white girl I would get that back home. I like sultry dark skin and eyes, especially when followed up with good service in bed. Sometimes they understand, often they don't since they are so conditioned to think they are ugly because they have dark skin.[/QUOTE]When I'm in Indonesia or Thailand, I like to take advantage of the bias against darker skinned girls, and find strikingly beautiful darker-skinned Asian ladies who don't have any clue about how hot they are to western sensibilities. IMHO, a gorgeous girl who thinks she looks plain will work harder to please a guy. And she won't ask for top dollar. All the while being gorgeous.

[QUOTE=Member#2041;1970396]strikingly beautiful darker-skinned Asian ladies who don't have any clue about how hot they are[/QUOTE]Whenever I find a dark skinned girl in Indonesia who I think is beautiful, if I tell her "kamu cantik", she will invariable respond with "no, I am not beautiful". But if I say "kamu seksi", she will agree with that. They will say that they are either sexy or sensual, but never beautiful. But if I tell a white skinned Indo chick she is beautiful, pretty much always she will say "of course I am beautiful". It's interesting how different cultures paint beauty differently.

Here's an example of a girl my indo friend thought was much better looking than that dark skinned girl. I'm sure she'd look better with some makeup, but I'd still prefer the dark skinned chick.

Agree with you, but Indonesian ladies are less beautiful than Thai and Philippines, which was a lot different than my expectation. Hope they get more beautiful soon.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1969128]Considering she was at BATS, she was likely no cheaper than the lighter skinned girls. BATS girls are damn expensive these days. It's ridiculous.

But that doesn't mean the white skinned girls are better looking. They simply have lighter skin. We were in Classic Bunker recently and the girl they thought was the best looking was a girl I considered to be one of the ugliest in the place. They liked her because of her light skin and bigger nose. I had zero interest in her. If you want a light skinned girl, BATS is not likely the place for you. You are better served going to the brothels in North Jakarta. The light skinned free lancers seem to get snagged by the locals and put up in apartments, so you don't see so many light skinned free lance chicks. I am perfectly fine with the darker skinned girls. I think its a sexy contrast to my skin.

CJs does seem to have more lighter skinned girls than BATS. BATS has almost all western men for customers, so the darker skinned girls know they have a better chance there than at CJs which has a lot of asians, indians and arabs as well as westerners..[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;1971096]Agree with you, but Indonesian ladies are less beautiful than Thai and Philippines, which was a lot different than my expectation. Hope they get more beautiful soon.[/QUOTE]Maybe ask your taxi to drive by Taman Lawang around midnight next time you are in Jakarta.

I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but also where you look is very important too in arriving at one's final opinion. I find Jakarta girls equally as attractive as Thai girls and on average slightly better looking than Filipinas. This is taking into account the face and the body of the girls. I have to admit that I like the exotic sultry look that many Jakarta girls possess along with their slim yet slightly more endowed SE Asian physiques. Now to be fair in my comparison, I am only talking about ladies of the night found at certain similar quality venues in roughly the same price range across 3 different cities. Specifically I am comparing Makati Kojax and Bottoms girls vs 'BKK Crazy House and Lord girls vs Jakarta Malio & Malioboro dancers, Alexis sauna girls and CJ's FL's. So I am comparing roughly the top 10% or so of working girls at each venue with all the girls roughly in the $90 to $150 price range. Mangos to mangos as it were. Perhaps I would have a different opinion if I were comparing LA Cafe girls to Classic girls to Soi 24 massage girls. LOL.

Now judging personality and performance of my girls in and out of bed is another matter. I know some great girls in all 3 cities. But as of right now, I would have to rate #1 my Makati girls, a close 2nd my Jakarta girls and a even closer 3rd my BKK girls. In other words, I have really good times in all 3 destinations with some amazing girls so I am definitely hooked on Jakarta, Makati and BKK. I wouldn't want to leave out any one of these places in my itinerary. Luckily I don't have to.

Hi all,

Just came back from Alexis yesterday for the first time and. Was rather disappointed!

Chose a VN girl, OWO and sex was pretty good, but 30-45 minutes in she hurried me to cum. And she kind of turned from a 'GFE' to a mechanical / pump and dump.

No CIM or COF, and didn't look like a second pop would have been on offer. (Is it normal these girls have a cum once policy?

Perhaps my expectations were too high? Considering Alexis is one of the top and more expensive establishments.

But feel rather disillusioned. Considering to go Malioborough to redeem myself. I'll set a 1.5 m / 2 m budget if I do decide a go. Before I leave the country for good.

Any tips on maliobrough guys? 1.5/2 m is enough?

Damages at Alexis.

Girl 2.5 m.

Tip 200 k.

2 x beers.

1 x O. J.

Approx 3 m total.

[QUOTE=Jvosta;1971543]Considering to go Malioborough to redeem myself. I'll set a 1.5 m / 2 m budget if I do decide a go. Before I leave the country for good. Any tips on maliobrough guys? 1.5/2 m is enough?
[/QUOTE]It depends on the type girl you select. I prefer the dancers because they are the sexiest and friendliest girls in the place. The imports seem half-baked and lifeless to me. The harem girls of which some are cute and doable, are just not as hot or as lively as the dancers. IMHO, there is no comparison. Other punters are free to have different opinions. That about covers the available Malioboro selection.

Two more things:

1. the Malioboro dancers operate more like Go Go girls than sauna girls, so buying them a Tequila or two and test driving the girl ie kissing her and fondling / kissing her ta ta's before deciding to take her upstairs is my preferred MO. Fortunately or unfortunately as the case may be, Malioboro only sells double shot Tequilas so you can see where this can go quickly if you want to party with a dancer or two before or after the main event. Ha Ha. On some nights I have spent well over 3,500,000 rp in this honky tonk in the course of 3 or 4 hours, but I have no regrets and I always had a really great time. CC's are accepted.

2. Malio Club connected to Malioboro in the same building by a labyrinth of stairs and hallways and also accessible through its own separate front door, is well worth your time and effort since you will find many, many, more similar dancer quality, hot, young, Indonesian girls here too. Both places rank very high in my estimation. Higher than Hotel Alexis.

Malioboro Prices:

Harem girls: 900,000 rp & 1,100,000 rp.
Imports: 1,500,000 rp.
Dancers: 2,100,000 rp.

Hey Guys,

Me Daeng from KL, Senior Member hahaha. Even senior need more to learn from you guys. Just wish all Jakarta guys who free and willing to share wit me some info and etc to some lovely girls and places. I shall be staying in Max One Sabang from 11-14 Dec.

Any help is most appreciated Thanks guys.

Feel Free to Ctc me or PM me.

DaengISG.

Never tried myself at Alexis, but for 90 minutes with 2.2 M for imported girls offers only 1 pop? Sounds like a scam to me and it should be 2 pops.

[QUOTE=Jvosta;1971543]Hi all,

Just came back from Alexis yesterday for the first time and. Was rather disappointed!

Chose a VN girl, OWO and sex was pretty good, but 30-45 minutes in she hurried me to cum. And she kind of turned from a 'GFE' to a mechanical / pump and dump.

No CIM or COF, and didn't look like a second pop would have been on offer. (Is it normal these girls have a cum once policy?

Perhaps my expectations were too high? Considering Alexis is one of the top and more expensive establishments.l.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1971817]buying them a Tequila or two [/QUOTE]I've never understood why they call those shots tequila. Those are filled with flat sprite. I wish they filled them with water instead. Those girls have a goal of 60 drinks a night. 60 shots of sprite a night can result in them gaining some weight over time.

[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;1971986]Never tried myself at Alexis, but for 90 minutes with 2.2 M for imported girls offers only 1 pop? Sounds like a scam to me and it should be 2 pops.[/QUOTE]Alexis for me seems like a conveyor belt service, a very pricey pump and dump.

Maybe I was unlucky with the girl regarding services.

From my experience, 1.5 m for locals = 30 minutes in the lounge / pool and the remaining one hour in the room. 2.5 for import, still only hour total in the private room, 30 minutes outside.

Not v happy, but nevermind, such is the game sometimes.

Thanks all for advices.

Jvosta,

As far as I know, 30 minutes jacuzzi is an option which you can choose.

If you wish to go to the room directly you can do, which makes you have 90 minutes time in the room.

As you know, normally people spend about 35 40 minutes for shower, boom boom and get dressed so 90 minutes should be 2 pops considering the price as well. At least in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Jvosta;1972403]Alexis for me seems like a conveyor belt service, a very pricey pump and dump.

Maybe I was unlucky with the girl regarding services.

From my experience, 1.5 m for locals = 30 minutes in the lounge / pool and the remaining one hour in the room. 2.5 for import, still only hour total in the private room, 30 minutes outside.

Not v happy, but nevermind, such is the game sometimes.

Thanks all for advices.[/QUOTE]

You have to negotiate with the mamasan up front. This applies to all of the brothels in Jakarta when it comes to 2 shots. If you tell the mamasan that you want 2 shots, she will likely direct you to a girl who will agree to that. She will then confirm with the girl and make sure she is going to take care of you. At least that is what I used to do back in the day when I could get off 2 shots in that amount of time. After she picks my girl, I would tell the mamasan that if I do get 2 shots, I will give the mamasan a tip on the way out. If I don't get 2 shots, I won't. There wasn't one time ever that a mamasan gave me a girl guaranteeing 2 shots where I did not get 2 shots off. Now I don't even worry about it because I am one and done. I just pick the hottest girl. As a matter of fact, it's more likely that I will not spend the full time in the room and will leave fairly soon after I have shot my load. Not because the girl is forcing me to do that, but because it's my preference. Unless they can give a good massage as well, after I have cum, I don't have much use for a brothel girl anymore and don't see the point of hanging out in that room for the full time.

Personally, I think Alexis is a rip off regardless. But if you think it's good value for money and that the girls are much more beautiful there, good on ya.

I've got the chance to visit Jakarta next year for work, staying for a few weekdays and into the weekend. Having never been there before I'm looking forward to sampling the local scene, both P4P as well as enthusiastic amateurs, from WeChat / DateInAsia freebies to a little 'compensated dating'.

My question is: is there any specific time of the year to avoid Jakarta (due to weather, local holidays, religious festivals or what-not), or on the flip-side, any best time to visit? My work schedule is pretty flexible so I figure I may as well make the most of this opportunity!

Had a recent trip to Jakarta and left about a week ago. I stayed four days and tried a bit different scene than what I have done before where I have usually sticked to CJ and Bats as those are more my places. Anyway tried Emporium but only the Club the first night. Very nice girls but the shows a bit slow and not very entertaining. Although I don't think you can expect more than looking at the girls dancing (at least they call it dancing) while drinking. The girls is not aggressive to approach you so it is pretty much up to yourself what you want to do. I was a nice boy this night and left after a few drinks.

Day two visited Classic and Terminal 2. This was a place I really enjoyed and ended up buying a few lady drinks to one of the dancers and then tried two girls. Clean and nice rooms even if a bit small. The mamasans are pushy and will constantly ask you to take girls, you just have to reject and be direct if you simply want to enjoy your drink. Good mix with dancing and music on stage. Prices here are reasonable and the quality of the girls in general good (all depends on the eyes looking.). I spent about 600 k in drinks and lady drinks (which are cheap compared to e. G. Malioboro) and then girls are flat 350 or 550 (1 or 2). I opted for only one but two times Visited CJ after this but it was no good this night. A lot of people but not like it used to be before.

Day three time to try out Malioboro where I have been before. Went straight to the club. Here the girls as before are really pushy for lady drinks and will drink them as if they were coca cola. 55 k a drink. You need to be really straight forward if you don't want to buy drinks. I did not try the girls which goes for 900 k locals but have to admit I spent some money on lady drinks. After I headed over to Bats and within 5 minutes I met a girl of my choice. Agreed to bring here back for 1. 5 for the night (which is the absolute highest I have paid for a LT in Jakarta). She was certainly value for money.

As I tend to do when I meet someone nice I keep them for a few days so I kept the girl for two other nights. Went to Skybar (Skye) for a few drinks but crowded and limited seats. This was Saturday so we were up for a party and went to Bats where we met another guy and toghether we brought three girls to Immigrants right after midnight. That was a hell of a party and lasted until they closed at 5 am. Sure you can have fun with these girls if you are up for it.

Next day planned to just stay in hotel but destiny wanted it different. Ended up in Illigals KTV together with another guy from the hotel and the same girl. He also brought a girl, first time I have actually brought a girl to KTV. But anyway great fun and prices in Illigals is reasonable for KTV including drinks and food.

Hope to see Jakarta again anytime soon.

[QUOTE=G3100;1973174]I headed over to Bats and within 5 minutes I met a girl of my choice. Agreed to bring here back for 1. 5 for the night (which is the absolute highest I have paid for a LT in Jakarta). She was certainly value for money.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, that's the going rate these days. If she was as good as you say, you are lucky you got her that cheap. For you to say it's the most you ever paid in your life in jkt, but it was definitely value for money indicates that she's the best girl you have ever had in your life in jkt. Any photos?

[QUOTE=Flyboy2000;1973058]is there any specific time of the year to avoid Jakarta (due to weather, local holidays, religious festivals or what-not), or on the flip-side, any best time to visit?[/QUOTE]Avoid the entire month of Ramadan (in 2017 it's 27 May - 25 June). During that time many PFP venues close, some open with limited hours and staff, many people go home for Eid and to make things worse, food options are limited as well.

Not sure whether there's a best time, Jakarta is a mess year-round.

I just came back from Jakarta. Some reports and pictures will be posted.

I heard that Shella has returned from the village and now has her hunting grounds in BATS. Didn't see her there, but maybe a next time.

Regards,

Ko

There's an event at Medika tonight.

Here's a girl from the Marriott I had stay a couple of days with me. 19 years old, which is nice, but the key is that she has big boobs and is a non-smoker. For me to allow a girl to stay more than an hour or so in my room, she cannot be a smoker. I prefer to never take a girl who smokes if possible. Unfortunately, it's not so easy to find non-smokers these days in Jakarta.

She looks good. Can you share the damage for the couple of nights?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1980828] Here's a girl from the Marriott I had stay a couple of days with me. 19 years old, which is nice, but the key is that she has big boobs and is a non-smoker. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1980828]Here's a girl from the Marriott I had stay a couple of days with me. 19 years old, which is nice, but the key is that she has big boobs and is a non-smoker. For me to allow a girl to stay more than an hour or so in my room, she cannot be a smoker. I prefer to never take a girl who smokes if possible. Unfortunately, it's not so easy to find non-smokers these days in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]Very nice Smoothy. That's my kind of comfort when they are built like that. She must be from a good family as she is not starving and frail. I assume tagi juta for a couple of days?

RL.

[QUOTE=RobertLong;1981085]And Not A Word of English I Bet. Very nice Smoothy. That's my kind of comfort when they are built like that. She must be from a good family as she is not starving and frail. I assume tagi juta for a couple of days?

RL.[/QUOTE]Correct on all accounts. I have no problem with no English since I can speak Bahasa well enough to converse. I normally prefer taking a 19 year old with no English over a 28 year old who speaks English.

[QUOTE=RobertLong;1981085]Very nice Smoothy. That's my kind of comfort when they are built like that. She must be from a good family as she is not starving and frail. I assume tagi juta for a couple of days?

RL.[/QUOTE]"Tagi juta"? It think that should be tiga juta!

Usually girls charge 2 million IDR for LT per night. 'tiga juta' or 3 million IDR for a couple of days (2 nights)? Good price.

[QUOTE=RobertLong;1981085] Very nice Smoothy. That's my kind of comfort when they are built like that. I assume tagi juta for a couple of days? [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MikeHuntHertz;1981298]"Tagi juta"? It think that should be tiga juta![/QUOTE]He was right the first time. I paid tagi juta.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1981538]He was right the first time. I paid tagi juta.[/QUOTE]What's "tagi"?

[QUOTE=MikeHuntHertz;1981816]What's "tagi"?[/QUOTE]Tagi Juta is the same as Tiga Juta. The only exception being that I am too drunk at the time to say the word Tiga and I've lost a bit of my sense. It's not often I ever pay tiga juta for just 2 days, but sometimes I do. I really liked this girl though, so she was worth the tagi. Very accommodating girl. I considered taking her to Bali but never did.

I'm still looking forward to G3100 posting a pic of the BATS girl he kept for 3 days at 1. 5 juta a day when he says he had never paid as much as 1. 5 in his life, but felt she was still great value for money. Considering I know many of the girls at BATS, I am curious which girl this was.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1973193]Unfortunately, that's the going rate these days. If she was as good as you say, you are lucky you got her that cheap. For you to say it's the most you ever paid in your life in jkt, but it was definitely value for money indicates that she's the best girl you have ever had in your life in jkt. Any photos?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately no photos. Just for the record I didn't say she is the best girl I have ever had in Jakarta, and for the price goes that I have not paid more than 1 M before but keep in mind this was more than a year ago.

[QUOTE=G3100;1981963]Unfortunately no photos. [/QUOTE]If you give me a name by PM, I bet I can post her photo for you. (I won't post a face pic).

The dancers at Medika and at Hotel Classic are the same girls just different nights. I wonder if those 2 places have the same owner.

Fellows,

It'll be my first time in Jakarta (as well as Indonesia) and I need your help. Where to look for girls that are 3 holers? In Bangkok it's quite easy. Oil massages such as Mango, Tulip or Snow White provide this kind of pleasure, but how about Jakarta? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Tabasco72;1984446]Fellows,
Where to look for girls that are 3 holers?[/QUOTE]Under rocks, in ashtrays, hidden in drawers. They are everywhere.

Seriously A+ is very available from individuals and establishments. If it's a deal breaker for you, just be clear and upfront about what you want before cementing a deal. There should not be any extra charge.

I dropped into Blok M a few weeks ago, went to the's place and was pleasantly surprised with the quality of the WG's in there. 5 or 6 that were nice, around the mid 20's or so. Of course there were the usual older ones I there. I drop in there every month or so and this is the first time for ages that the quality was good.

[QUOTE=Tabasco72;1984446]It'll be my first time in Jakarta (as well as Indonesia) and I need your help. Where to look for girls that are 3 holers? In Bangkok it's quite easy. Oil massages such as Mango, Tulip or Snow White provide this kind of pleasure, but how about Jakarta? Thanks.[/QUOTE]There is no equivalent to BKK Tulip-style establishments in Jakarta with anal quite literally on the menu, so you might try the girls who are on WeChat (see my previous post) and see if you can find a girl who will provide anal if you want to get a sure thing.

I can say without any doubt that the best anal sex experiences have come from Indonesian girls. Two girls from Top Gun and two pick-ups from Atrium Mall would be in my Top 10 for sure. With the exception of the one girl from Top Gun (Rini) who offered it in the bar, all the others were pleasant surprises that provided balls-deep-rectum-wrecking ass sex. Enjoy Jakarta, AsianRain.

Dear,

I have few queries regarding Jakarta. I am planning to visit Jakarta in April this year, I have read before several stories but I have few questions.

1) I want to know the best place to get girls to hotel room. I heard about other pubs and karaoke bars but I want to get them to my room instead of other hotel places.

2) what are the other places for a visit for 7 days.

3) which location is best for considering hotel (North, South and central Jakarta).

Please guide me. During the day what are the best places to go and visit.

Thanks for your responses in advance and guidance.

[QUOTE=Raghavan26;1985736]Dear,

I have few queries regarding Jakarta. I am planning to visit Jakarta in April this year, I have read before several stories but I have few questions.

1) I want to know the best place to get girls to hotel room. I heard about other pubs and karaoke bars but I want to get them to my room instead of other hotel places.

2) what are the other places for a visit for 7 days.

3) which location is best for considering hotel (North, South and central Jakarta).

Please guide me. During the day what are the best places to go and visit.

Thanks for your responses in advance and guidance.[/QUOTE]You really should spend some time reading the forum!!

1. Block M has a lot of freelancers you can take to your room.

2. Google is your friend!! It will take you 2 minutes to find touristy places in Jakarta.

3. I would stay in Central Jakarta.

Make sure you post reports!!

AR,

Good to see you again my old friend. Its been more than 10 years since we last spoke. I saw your post below that I had to respond to.

I went to Indonesia last year for the first time due to your awesome posts from there.

I completely agree with you. Indonesia is the anal capital of the world. I did 15 non pros, in 15 days and all but one was anal receptive.

I attempted full penetration with 5-6 of them and all let me, and most without hesitation.

Is it just me, or did ISG not work without a proxy. I couldn't access it while there.

I have stopped mongering in the Philippines for all non pro's. Too close of encounters of set ups and bribes.

Has anyone experienced that in Indonesia?

Good Seeing You Again Mate.

Love The Ladies.

[QUOTE=Crypton;1985773]You really should spend some time reading the forum!!

1. Block M has a lot of freelancers you can take to your room.

2. Google is your friend!! It will take you 2 minutes to find touristy places in Jakarta.

3. I would stay in Central Jakarta.

Make sure you post reports!![/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply. Coming to Freelancers I heard the free lancers there are risky. So are there another alternative places suggested would be good.

Tourist places I checked but didn't find any at all. Which interests me during the day. So though of asking you guys.

Thanks I would consider a hotel only in Central Jakarta.

And for sure I will post my review and rates.

[QUOTE=LoveTheLadies;1985778]

Is it just me, or did ISG not work without a proxy. I couldn't access it while there.

I have stopped mongering in the Philippines for all non pro's. Too close of encounters of set ups and bribes.

Has anyone experienced that in Indonesia?

[/QUOTE]ISG is generally blocked by the government, however some hotels or other ISP seem to ignore the block. I think the ISP can take the block off. Can be hit and miss. Best to use a VPN to get around it.

Can you expand on your Philippine comments on set ups and bribes? Hard to imagine anybody stopping mongering in the Philippines! Here or by PM if you prefer. I have never had a problem in Indonesia (or the Philippines) but I always use a disposable SIM, fake name, tell them I do not have facebook etc etc. When I leave, they cannot find me.

[QUOTE=Raghavan26;1985736]

3) which location is best for considering hotel (North, South and central Jakarta).

[/QUOTE]This is pretty dependent on how long you will be there and why. If you are o a business trip then you need to be close to where you will be working, otherwise it depends on what you want to do. If taking freelancers back to your room is your thing then you should stay near the pick-up places.

I stay around Blok M since it's near my work and client. I have a few girls I can call on for my entertainment so I don't really need to go out much, but I tend to go to Kemang for nights out. Sometimes on the weekends I stay at the Hyatt, I like it around ther for the food and drink.

There are plenty of freemlancers in bars like Eastern Promise, especially on Friday nights.

Here are a couple of pics of the DJ at Medika.

[QUOTE=Ceegee;1985796]ISG is generally blocked by the government, however some hotels or other ISP seem to ignore the block. I think the ISP can take the block off. Can be hit and miss. Best to use a VPN to get around it.

Can you expand on your Philippine comments on set ups and bribes? Hard to imagine anybody stopping mongering in the Philippines! Here or by PM if you prefer. I have never had a problem in Indonesia (or the Philippines) but I always use a disposable SIM, fake name, tell them I do not have facebook etc etc. When I leave, they cannot find me.[/QUOTE]I used the disposable SIM, fake name and no face book route as well. It has always worked.

I even used to have a sexutary. Her only job was to get me a date. I would average 2. 5 dates a day of NEW girls.

And an average of 4 to 5 on sundays. She got paid 300 per day, so she did well. I worked out well until I slept with her one time, then I averaged less than 1 per day!

That was then, I slowed way down and dated less than once a week. On my very last date, (over 2 years ago) The girl met me at the mall. I smelled a rat and knew I should flee when she kept asking me questions like, "what is your work, is that really your work? What is your name, come on, give me your real name. " I was way too seasoned a veteran to be set up. It was the girls first and LAST time the girl did it as she no longer has a house.

The date went ok, but she said she was NBSB, but she could kiss well. The facts didn't add up.

We were in my hotel for less than 30 minutes, no sex. We then went out for the day shopping for some stuff. For some stupid reason I had her hang onto my credit card receipt. Within a matter of 30 minutes she disappeared. Mom, had a problem of some sort of crap.

Four hours later, she wanted to come stay the night with me. I was tired and I smelled something wasn't right. Yet the next day, I fell for it. I met her and as soon as I did 2 cops illegally apprehended me. Turns out you can NOT be arrested unless they have an arrest warrant or you are caught in the act of the crime.

I tried to tell my side of the story and the evidence, but the police said: "You can only tell it to the judge and it will be 2 months until you see the judge. Your case is non bail-able. And your case will last 2-3 years. " So, $10,000 later I left the jail. BTW, you sleep head to toe in the jail.

A year later she set up the police for taking half the money. The police responded by saying she was a pusher and burnt her house down. I'm not sure if she is alive or not. But she isn't living in Manila anymore.

I've learned my lesson and won't monger there anymore.

As for Indonesia, it is certainly not so easy. I am able to average about 2 girls a day including repeats, once you build up the number of first dates to 7-8. Yet, it seems like the pie is much smaller of the girls who will meet. Half of them had some type of minor STD and most have been around the block before. Though I did meet 3 virgins who were actually confirmed.

To Senior Members ONLY.

Of all the girls I met in Indo, this one is a star. She didn't want me to lube her pussy as she liked to feel it rough. So I took a Viagra and gave her all I had.

She did require lube for the backside But took it painfully well!

The only thing she couldn't do so well is Deep Throat. She sent me a message telling me she wants to learn.

I did not say anything, she just proactively told me and sent me videos on youporn of what she wanted to learn.

I have trained a few girls in the past and learned I don't like to be this type of trainer as I don't like the smell of stomach acid.

She did promise me at least 50 hard gags per session and unlimted puking.

MAKE SURE YOU DON"T TAKE HER OUT TO EAT BEFORE THE TRAINING!

In 10 sessions (minimum of 500 HARD GAGS) she should be good at deep throat.

So PM me for her digits. They will stay private with me.

If you pound her, make sure you have some energy as she likes it HARD! Viagra up before meeting her.

I'm hoping 3-4 of you will take care of her. I do recommend using a condom. She is a wild one who will claim you are on the 2nd guy ever.

Also, she will always take requests for photos over WhatsApp.

Oh yeah, she wants Bule only. And she is 100% non pro. SO DON'T POST HER PICS OR VIDEOS AND DO NOT OFFER HER MONEY! But make sure to put like 100k or 150k in her purse for transportation. She lives 2 hours away in the next city. She will refuse the money but she isn't rich. Yet she doesn't want to feel like a prosty.

[QUOTE=LoveTheLadies;1987580]To Senior Members ONLY.

Of all the girls I met in Indo, this one is a star. She didn't want me to lube her pussy as she liked to feel it rough. So I took a Viagra and gave her all I had.

She did require lube for the backside But took it painfully well!

The only thing she couldn't do so well is Deep Throat. She sent me a message telling me she wants to learn.

I did not say anything, she just proactively told me and sent me videos on youporn of what she wanted to learn.
[/QUOTE]The fucked up thing is that knowing Indonesia, this post is probably 100% legit.

It would not surprise me at all to find she is some jilbab wearing junior accounts clerk by day. . . LOL.

LTL, I admire the way you a working through the hardships in your life.

Got to love Asia.

[QUOTE=LoveTheLadies;1987562]I've learned my lesson and won't monger there anymore.

As for Indonesia, it is certainly not so easy. I am able to average about 2 girls a day including repeats, once you build up the number of first dates to 7-8. Yet, it seems like the pie is much smaller of the girls who will meet. Half of them had some type of minor STD and most have been around the block before. Though I did meet 3 virgins who were actually confirmed.[/QUOTE]Good story. Unfortunately not unique. Has, can and will happen in almost any jurisdiction. FWIW, I would not write off PI as language makes it an uniquely enjoyable place. Even the the d ea and se cret seriv ce can get caught up when a provider goes nu clear. Search Colombia. I am grinning ear to ear reading the current PI discussion on tampo.

As for Jakarta, I am trying to pick up some Java and Bahasa.

From your report, I think you realize that when your spidey senses tingle, bail and cut your loses; be like the accountant, minus the rv.[QUOTE=Love The Ladies;1987580]She did promise me at least 50 hard gags per session and unlimted puking.

I'm hoping 3-4 of you will take care of her. I do recommend using a condom. She is a wild one who will claim you are on the 2nd guy ever.

Also, she will always take requests for photos over WhatsApp.

Oh yeah, she wants Bule only. And she is 100% non pro. SO DON'T POST HER PICS OR VIDEOS AND DO NOT OFFER HER MONEY! But make sure to put like 100k or 150k in her purse for transportation. She lives 2 hours away in the next city. She will refuse the money but she isn't rich. Yet she doesn't want to feel like a prosty.[/QUOTE]I believe there is a segment that like the vomit part. Though Linda Love Lace did not.

[QUOTE=LoveTheLadies;1987562]I used the disposable SIM, fake name and no face book route as well. It has always worked.

We were in my hotel for less than 30 minutes, no sex. We then went out for the day shopping for some stuff. For some stupid reason I had her hang onto my credit card receipt. Within a matter of 30 minutes she disappeared. Mom, had a problem of some sort of crap.

Four hours later, she wanted to come stay the night with me. I was tired and I smelled something wasn't right. Yet the next day, I fell for it. I met her and as soon as I did 2 cops illegally apprehended me. Turns out you can NOT be arrested unless they have an arrest warrant or you are caught in the act of the crime.

I tried to tell my side of the story and the evidence, but the police said: "You can only tell it to the judge and it will be 2 months until you see the judge. Your case is non bail-able. And your case will last 2-3 years. " So, $10,000 later I left the jail. BTW, you sleep head to toe in the jail.

.[/QUOTE]So. Exactly what did they say you were doing. Engaging in prostitution? Or did they / she just target you and you were the unlucky one chosen?

F'ing scary!

Hey guys,

Not one of the senior members PM'd me for her digits. She is a bit chunky and has a bit of an Arab look to her.

Some guys will like it, some won't. But to any bule out there, she wants to meet and be trained. PM me if you want to be her master for the day!

[QUOTE=MasterDiverII;1807240]There are so many women, just find another. There are many possibilities in all the dating sites and freebies abound as well as the P4 P girls. YMMV.

MD II.[/QUOTE]I was getting quotes no lower than 1 million from craigslist. Insane amount of money! Only one freebie got money from me other than simple taxi fair. But she was 19. A supposed virgin and very new to sex game if she wasn't a virgin. She thought I gave her huge money when I accidently gave her 250 k. I meant to give 150 k. Mostly I gave her 100 k and she was thrilled to see me again.

I did get a street walker in front of my hotel to go as low as 150 k. I also found a massage parlor by one of the university's to agree to 350 k.

[QUOTE=LoveTheLadies;1988503]I was getting quotes no lower than 1 million from craigslist. Insane amount of money! Only one freebie got money from me other than simple taxi fair. But she was 19. A supposed virgin and very new to sex game if she wasn't a virgin. She thought I gave her huge money when I accidently gave her 250 k. I meant to give 150 k. Mostly I gave her 100 k and she was thrilled to see me again.

I did get a street walker in front of my hotel to go as low as 150 k. I also found a massage parlor by one of the university's to agree to 350 k.[/QUOTE]Photos or it didn't happen.

I went to Jakarta for the first time in December (my trip in may I talked about in this thread a year ago fell through) and had a real good time! Here and there I did some Hotel Classic, and it being the first time for me in a club like that I was really enjoying it and felt like a kid in a candy store. Most of my fucking came from social media tho, I'm still in my twenties and I'm tall so the girls just flock! I had like 8 girls who just fucked for taxi money and food over a duration of 2 weeks. I will be going back in a couple of months as I managed to get an apartment in Kelapa Gading close to Mall Of Indonesia for free due to friend who's from there. I'm lining up a bunch of new girls as we speak! I can't wait!

[QUOTE=FlapFlap;1988698]I'm still in my twenties and I'm tall so the girls just flock![/QUOTE]If you are in your 20's and tall and good looking, you should have no problem getting free pussy anywhere in the world.

Ok, so let's recap your posts.

- Got scammed in the Philippines for $10 k (USD?) even though you said you are a seasoned vet who is too smart to get scammed.

- As quoted below, half of your Indonesian girls had a sexually transmitted disease, the other (half?) were confirmed virgins. How did you confirm this by the way?

- You want 'senior members' to PM you for contact details of an Arab looking girl who wants to be trained in the art of deep throat until she pukes. Not a single 'senior member' sends you a PM.

- You paid a 19 year old virgin 100 k rupiah and she was happy with that. You repeated her a few times, but after the first time she is no longer a virgin, by definition.

You really should lay off the drugs man, it is not worth messing with them in Indonesia. If they think you are trafficking you can get the death penalty.

[QUOTE=LoveTheLadies;1987562]
As for Indonesia, it is certainly not so easy. I am able to average about 2 girls a day including repeats, once you build up the number of first dates to 7-8. Yet, it seems like the pie is much smaller of the girls who will meet. Half of them had some type of minor STD and most have been around the block before. Though I did meet 3 virgins who were actually confirmed.[/QUOTE]

Visited Jakarta recently and had a couple of interesting experiences.

First was in a hostel in Jalan Jaksa. Two smiling ladies hanging out in a doorway gestured for me to stop and chat. So I did. We passed the time of day and discussed the weather (it was raining). The younger one was twenty something, busty and very friendly. Her friend was older, not so pretty, but had a nice slim body and perky tits. After a while the older one said 'you like my friend? And negotiations began. I suggested a threesome, and they liked the idea. Their first offer was 600 k each, but we eventually agreed on 300 k each. A very nice time with BBBJ from both, lotsof no holes barred playing, and a very happy ending.

Total cost 600 k.

The second experience cost three times as much, but was also good. I went to Illigals at about 6 pm on Saturday and booked a 4 hands massage. They have a special, but it does not apply on Saturdays, so the basic cost was 750 k plus 88 for admission. Two fine busty spinners took me to a room and proceeded to give me a very thorough soapy shower. They put some porn on the tv to give added inspiration, and began a very good massage. Some further negation was required to get their clothes off etc. , but eventually we agreed on a 400 k tip each for no clothes, full access, and 2 girl HJ. These girls were both gorgeous with their clothes off, and the view in the ceiling mirror was magnificent. They stayed naked for the rest of the 90 minutes and allowed me plenty of access to play with those lovely tits and pussies. Then they very thoroughly washed and dried me.

Total cost 1750 k including one drink and taxes.

Both excellent experiences and worth repeating.

There are also some very seedy looking bar / massage joints in the back streets near Illigals. Might be worth checking these out on my next visit.

[QUOTE=Ceegee;1988936]Ok, so let's recap your posts.

- Got scammed in the Philippines for $10 k (USD?) even though you said you are a seasoned vet who is too smart to get scammed.



- As quoted below, half of your Indonesian girls had a sexually transmitted disease, the other (half?) were confirmed virgins. How did you confirm this by the way?

- You want 'senior members' to PM you for contact details of an Arab looking girl who wants to be trained in the art of deep throat until she pukes. Not a single 'senior member' sends you a PM.

- You paid a 19 year old virgin 100 k rupiah and she was happy with that. You repeated her a few times, but after the first time she is no longer a virgin, by definition.

You really should lay off the drugs man, it is not worth messing with them in Indonesia. If they think you are trafficking you can get the death penalty.[/QUOTE]Hahahahah. I've only smoked a few times in my life and never drink. Never drugs. The 10 k in the Philippines was a fluke. Bloody stupid of me. I did over 200-300 girls there for free without a problem. I smelled the problems on this one but ignored it. I was even at the girls house once.

No, the "virgins" were not confirmed. Sorry if my poor grammar made it sound tthis way. Half of the ones I met claimed to be virgins, but I highly doubt it except for possibly 3-4. (2 of whom I had sex with) Unless you can see an outer Hyman or feel for a distinct internal Hyman, then you can only go by what they say. And frankly, I don't buy it. Though there was blood for 2 of them. But that doesn't mean anything by itself.

Yeah, the 19 year old was just simply into white guys. She went crazy when she saw them and her nipples would get hard. Especially the younger guys with thin bodies. FLAPFLAP, you are lucky to be in this country in your 20's and tall and thin. Freebies will flock to you. In the Philippines, this works against you a bit. Mid 30's up to Mid 40's is best over there. Girls think you are at the age of settling down when in the mid 30's to 40'. Guys in their 20's aren't so much. But in Indonesia, age gap is a big thing and they certainly go for looks here. My profile pic was that of an actor in Cupid. The pic scored a perfect 10 of a woman in looks. When I sent her the real me, she straight up told me that it wouldn't work out. Neither money, nor promises of sexual bliss would get her to go out with me. And I'm not an unsightly guy. At least I never was told that before I arrived here. They simply don't like belly fat or a large age gap.

My point CeeGee about half the girls having some type of STD is that the girls who will meet you and drop their drawers on the first date is that their just doesn't seem to be that many Indo girls (as compare to lets say the Philippines) that is willing to meet for a date compared to the number of guys trying to snatch them. This could be a cultural issue or more likely it is a "No English" issue. Lets say that you had a secretary that pretended she was you and did nothing but line up dates for you. The dates are 1 hour long only and located in the same mall. In Indonesia, I am guessing you would average around 2-3 NEW girls per day and you could keep this average up for 2 weeks. In The Philippines, I am guessing you would average 6-7 and 10 on Sundays and keep it up for weeks upon end! Of the 2-3 in Indonesia, more than half would be 60% would have been on a date with a Bule before. In The Philippines, only around 25% would have dated a foreigner before. Though in Indo they will come alone, In the Philippines, half of them would have a Chaperone on the first date if you wanted to keep your numbers this high. Enough CeeGee, I don't want a flame war bro.

And BTW, ask Jackson if anyone sent me a PM regarding wanting to give Deep Throat lessons to my arab'ish looking girl. He would be the only person to be able to confirm it. (Jackson, if you want to PM CeeGee, feel free to scan my messages and let him know) CeeGee or any other Senior Member, if you want her digits for whatsapp, let me know. The only requirement is that you have to be white, or possibly Arab. Certainly no Indo guys.

And if anyone got through all this garbage I wrote and has different experiences than me from either here or Manila. Let me know.

Went to d'Heaven 2 in Wijaya.

Amazing experience.

Facilities were super clean, and well put together. Pools are honestly, pretty tiny, but serve their purpose.

Place was totally empty around noon.

Chose 4 ladies off the Instagram before I went, but the front desk girl was about to show me them anyway.

I went on advice to go "all in" for a VIP room and "double time" for 800 k.

I was then told to shower, and headed upstairs. There's another front desk up there. The girl repeated 3 times that "you cannot cancel" . Not sure what that was about, but I stated of course I won't cancel.

Only one of the girls on my 4 picks was working. #51. I must say, honestly, she is the hottest girl I've ever played with.

Perfect body, great face. Took a little warming up. Spectacular massage. They get naked as soon as the door closes, and the massage begins.

I tried asking her how it worked, as I read it was a certain time for massage, and service. I asked about 45/45. Still not clear on her response. Either way, unfortunately, she did let the "10 minute phone call" ring before any sort of service (except ass / ball rubbing) and she advised me I should extend. 130,000 or so for 30 minutes, so I understand.

Anyway, it didn't matter. I was done within 20 minutes. She did CBJ, which made me a little bummed, but after that, her skills were so great, any negatives melted away. She got on top, which most rarely do for me as I'm quite big. She made out with me. Pressed herself against my mouth, whatever I wanted.

It was. Seriously the best service I've had in Asia.

Go see her. I think her name is Tati?

10/10.

Total bill for VIP room "all-in" plus Guinness beer, and 30 minute extend. 1. 1 million or so? Regular "all-in" should be 800,000.

I would definitely, infinitely, repeat her.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=LoveTheLadies;1990044]CeeGee or any other Senior Member, if you want her digits for whatsapp, let me know. The only requirement is that you have to be white, or possibly Arab. Certainly no Indo guys.
[/QUOTE]Hmmm, could it be that she wants well-hung men? The Arabs are supposed to be equipped like the bule's.

Starting to map out my Jakarta visit for next month and in addition to a little of the usual 'fun' I'm interested in trying Tongkat Ali, which is a natural 'male performance' (aka testosterone booster) herb common in south-east Asia, mostly Indonesia & Malaysia according to my research. Do any of the Jakarta regulars here know of this stuff and more importantly, can they suggest any specific places where it can be bought? I'm uncertain if this is something common at pharmacies, local versions of those 'Chinese herbal medicine' stores or simply some little 'hole in the wall' chemists (like the one in HKG from whom I buy Cialis).

Made a trip recently to Jakarta recently and stayed in LE Meridien. I am not so much of a bar hopper so checked out a few girls from CL who were not what they had advertised.

Frustrated, I went down for a beer at a bar there. Tiga puluh and picked someone from there. The chick was pure curvy Javanese.

We started with bathing each other and then spending sometime caressing in the shower. Went to bed and started with some DFK and simultaneous stroking. After 15 minutes of foreplay we had our 1st session. She was on top and doing all the right moves. She was OK with everything except Anal (not sure why most of Indo say no to anal).

The feeling and sensation was awesome. She massaged me after our 1st round and then gave me an awesome blow job and I came in her mouth. She just loved it totally. No inhibitions, no hurry.

Her name R.

Overall expense- 1 Mn Rupiah (A bit on higher side, but I don't mind taking her again).

Overall experience- 8/10.

Cheers and experience her.

Let me know if anyone can share a few incall freelancers details.

[QUOTE=MansNuts;1993928]
Overall expense- 1 Mn Rupiah (A bit on higher side, but I don't mind taking her again).
[/QUOTE]1 juta is not on the higher side when you are pulling from a hotel like that. It's actually on the lowest side.

The girls at Meridien tend to be older though (over 30) and not very attractive. It's a shame because that bar used to be the hottest bar in town 20 years ago.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1993953]1 juta is not on the higher side when you are pulling from a hotel like that. It's actually on the lowest side.

The girls at Meridien tend to be older though (over 30) and not very attractive. It's a shame because that bar used to be the hottest bar in town 20 years ago.[/QUOTE]Not 20 years ago Smoothy, but 10 years ago. I guess age is catching up with you!

Cheers.

[QUOTE=JohnAldrich;1994413]Not 20 years ago Smoothy, but 10 years ago. I guess age is catching up with you!

Cheers.[/QUOTE]I think 2006 was the year they "renovated". And it went to hell after that. But it had been dying down. 1999 - 2003 were the prime years if you ask me. I had some great times there. I still remember a girl in there stripping completely nude and dancing near the stage in the early 2000's. She only did it for a minute before security stopped her. But that was pretty awesome to see in a hotel like that. The chicks dancing on top of the bar at the end of the night was always a highlight there. The Public Relations chick named Vita was smoking hot. Best PR girl I've seen in Jakarta. What a stunner. Then they "renovated" and it was crap after that. The fact that they kept that worthless black band for so long didn't help either. The place was the hub for Nigerian drug deals after the renovation. The African drug dealers from JJ's 2nd floor seemed to relocate to Tiga Puluh and it seemed that band was close with all of them. Now it's just completely dead and not likely to regain popularity again.

Visited Topgun in Blok M few times the last two weeks, and I think the quality of girls has deteriorated during the last few years. Brought a few with me home, but would not do any of them again. Starfish. But the food and entertainment was as good as I remember. Anyone on this forum has the contact info on Nia and Melly, both slim and tall, in their mid-20's? Haven't seen them, and I'm wondering if they are around.

Hi,

Does anyone recommend staying at one of the entertainment complex, are the benefits / savings better for booking their girls?

As an example has anyone stayed at these places overnight and found it was good value?

Illgals hotel.

Malio hotel.

Alexis hotel.

Kings cross hotel.

Classic hotel.

I was about to book a trip out to Jakarta for 3 days from 27 May but looks like that's when Ramadan starts.

So I am guessing no point hitting (or staying at) the like of:

Alexis hotel.

Classic.

Illegals.

Kings cross.

Or is just harder to find during that time?

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2000661]I was about to book a trip out to Jakarta for 3 days from 27 May but looks like that's when Ramadan starts.

So I am guessing no point hitting (or staying at) the like of:

Alexis hotel.

Classic.

Illegals.

Kings cross.

Or is just harder to find during that time?[/QUOTE]Your question is a standard question that gets asked every year. The answer is that almost all of the free-standing MPs close during the entire month of Ramadan, as most of the working girls travel back to their home villages, not to return until 3 to 4 days after the Eid (often with some new barely-legal girls). Some of the hotel-based MPs / spas such as Malioboro and Alexis (I think) stay open during the first couple of weeks of Ramadan but keep a very low profile. The famous hotel bar-pick-up-places also slow down.

Back when I lived in Jakarta, the 6th floor Spa in Hotel Melawai would close down, but a group of girls would rent a couple of rooms on a lower floor in the Hotel Melawai and see customers there. I had some great sessions during those times, including one memorable two-girl session with Tatik and Inna during Ramadan 2007 that left me drained but happy.

For the last 7-10 days of Ramadan, the sex scene really dries up, so either stay away from Jakarta at that time or line up your own talent. There are a few Christian working girls available who obviously don't care about Ramadan.

There may be some hidden activity during Ramadan, especially in the Chinese neighborhoods, but I'm not qualified to discuss those opportunities.

[QUOTE=MightySpearsman;2002071] including one memorable two-girl session with Tatik and Inna during Ramadan 2007 that left me drained but happy..[/QUOTE]Inna is still around, but she works CJs these days. She has to be mid to late 30's by now. She said she charges 2. 5 million short time at CJs now. LOL. What a difference from her days in her youth at Hotel Melawai. She has the type of face that Indians and Arabs love, so she's still getting plenty of customers there at CJs.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2002118]Inna is still around, but she works CJs these days. She has to be mid to late 30's by now. She said she charges 2. 5 million short time at CJs now. LOL. What a difference from her days in her youth at Hotel Melawai. She has the type of face that Indians and Arabs love, so she's still getting plenty of customers there at CJs.[/QUOTE]Could it be she s lying? Why would people pay 2.5 million for an old lady when you can have a gal for 350 k in the same city?

[QUOTE=PrisonBreak;2002126]Could it be she s lying? Why would people pay 2.5 million for an old lady when you can have a gal for 350 k in the same city?[/QUOTE]I doubt she is lying. I doubt she always gets 2. 5, but she still looks pretty good relative to the other girls in CJs. She wouldn't be my top choice by far, but she is fairly tall and has a face that Indians and Arabs will absolutely go for. 1. 5 to 2 million is the normal rate there, but I have stood near couples where I hear the girl negotiate 2. 5 or 3 million. I have been getting lucky there lately and only paying 1 million, but that's after the girl has already returned to CJs from her first trick of the night and it's getting near closing time, so I am getting sloppy seconds.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2002252]I doubt she is lying. I doubt she always gets 2. 5, but she still looks pretty good relative to the other girls in CJs. She wouldn't be my top choice by far, but she is fairly tall and has a face that Indians and Arabs will absolutely go for. 1. 5 to 2 million is the normal rate there, but I have stood near couples where I hear the girl negotiate 2. 5 or 3 million. I have been getting lucky there lately and only paying 1 million, but that's after the girl has already returned to CJs from her first trick of the night and it's getting near closing time, so I am getting sloppy seconds.[/QUOTE]I met Inna a couple of weeks back in CJ's. We were chatting up over a drink that I bought her. Suddenly an Indian guy pops up and intervenes and asks her whether she's free. She says 3 million for the night and he says 2. 5 million. She says, 2. 5 million ok, but will leave at 6 am. He says fine. And the time was actually 1 30 am then. She finished the drink I bought her and then the Indian guy bought her a drink. They were together and I guess they would have left around 2 30 am. The fact is Smoothy, some chicks like Inna have a brand equity for the way the conduct themselves despite their age. Many would not understand this.

What time do these places open up on a Saturday and Sunday and I assume they all close at 1 am?

Wondering how many I can do in a weekend?

Classic.

The'Heaven Spa.

Sumo.

King x.

Illigals.

Sun city.

Golden Boutique Hotel Melawai.

Hi,

To pick up LT or ST girls for hotel is Lokasari plaza still the place to visit?

Apparently there are FR girls hanging outside the plaza or in front of Oasis spa?

If not then where in that area can you get girls to take back to hotel?

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2003301]What time do these places open up on a Saturday and Sunday and I assume they all close at 1 am?

Wondering how many I can do in a weekend?

Classic.

The'Heaven Spa.

Sumo.

King x.

Illigals.

Sun city.

Golden Boutique Hotel Melawai.[/QUOTE]Type the following into google: "kings cross Jakarta opening hours". That will save all of us a lot of time. Then do the same for all the other places you are asking about.

You will find ladies at Lokasari plaza of unknown provenance. Alternately ask the taxi to take you to Tamansari which is right close by. Tell them you want to "cari cewek". Taxi will enter street and get flagged down by a spotter. Slip the spotter 10 k. Pretty soon an Innova full of girls will pull up and you can pick out the one you want. 500ST, take back to hotel. Not sure LT cost. If theres no girl to your liking in that innova. Wait 5 minutes and another will be along or go a little further down the street. Phones will be running hot and all the innova's will be heading to your location. Think of yourself as a new years sale.

Hope that helps.

OS.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2003703]Type the following into google: "kings cross Jakarta opening hours". That will save all of us a lot of time. Then do the same for all the other places you are asking about.

You will find ladies at Lokasari plaza of unknown provenance. Alternately ask the taxi to take you to Tamansari which is right close by. Tell them you want to "cari cewek". Taxi will enter street and get flagged down by a spotter. Slip the spotter 10 k. Pretty soon an Innova full of girls will pull up and you can pick out the one you want. 500ST, take back to hotel. Not sure LT cost. If theres no girl to your liking in that innova. Wait 5 minutes and another will be along or go a little further down the street. Phones will be running hot and all the innova's will be heading to your location. Think of yourself as a new years sale.

Hope that helps.

OS.[/QUOTE]Coincidentally, I let a taxi sucker me into going to tamansari last night. I find taxis these days pushing that more and more. I wonder what they get for their cut? I rarely find a girl to my liking there, so I'm not sure why I agreed to go all the way up there and check it out on a Saturday night, but I did. I'm not saying they never have nice girls, but I didn't like the selection last night and went to Blok M. The band at Top Gun last night was so damn loud that I left within 5 minutes. I'm not sure what the hell they were thinking turning that up so loud. I was there just a few weeks ago with the same band there and it wasn't anywhere near as loud. I wouldn't be surprised if a few people got ear damage from that crap last night. I've seen The Who live in concert where they were supposedly the loudest band in history - but that was quiet compared to that crap band at Top Gun. Damn shame because there were a couple of nice girls in there. I asked the taxi to take me to CJs. As we turned the corner, there were some extremely cute girls in the streets there in blok M. Much nicer than the ones at Tamansari last night. I asked the taxi to stop and chatted up a real little cutie. I asked her how much and she looked over to her motorcycle pimp and he said 1 million. I told him to forget it. He immediately said he would go for less and asked how much I wanted to pay, but I thought the quote of a million was offensive, so I told him to forget it. I ended up paying 1. 2 million for a nice 21 year old girl at CJs later in the night. I wouldn't say she was any cuter than the girl in the road at blok m, but at least in that case I am not dealing with one of those low life motorcycle pimps.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2003703]You will find ladies at Lokasari plaza of unknown provenance. Alternately ask the taxi to take you to Tamansari which is right close by. Tell them you want to "cari cewek". Taxi will enter street and get flagged down by a spotter. Slip the spotter 10 k. Pretty soon an Innova full of girls will pull up and you can pick out the one you want. 500ST, take back to hotel. Not sure LT cost. If theres no girl to your liking in that innova. Wait 5 minutes and another will be along or go a little further down the street. Phones will be running hot and all the innova's will be heading to your location. Think of yourself as a new years sale.

Hope that helps.

OS.[/QUOTE]OK thanks will try out Tamasari.

I am assuming same outcome if I walked down there without a taxi. I just need to spot the spotter or the Innova full of girls. Shouldn't be too hard!

If doesn't work out then I can just walk down to Loksari and try there.

As to opening times question, probably correct question was "what best time they start? As I once went to Alexis per Google opening time, they were happy to take my entrance fee money but no girls were their when they opened, they then told me to come back after 3 hours and pay entrance fee again!

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2003734]
I am assuming same outcome if I walked down there without a taxi. I just need to spot the spotter or the Innova full of girls. Shouldn't be too hard![/QUOTE]Wrong. Get a taxi and have the driver hook you up.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2004421]Wrong. Get a taxi and have the driver hook you up.[/QUOTE]Smoothy,

Is this Taman Sari 75 you're talking about right or have other locations popped up?

Also, one night I was travelling in a taxi along Jalan Kartini towards the Swiss Belhotel Mangga Besar and along that street men would come out of the shadows waving at the car to stop. The driver waved some of them off.

Are there brothels all along Jalan Kartini as well?

[QUOTE=Marky1;2004532]Smoothy,

Is this Taman Sari 75 you're talking about right or have other locations popped up?

Also, one night I was travelling in a taxi along Jalan Kartini towards the Swiss Belhotel Mangga Besar and along that street men would come out of the shadows waving at the car to stop. The driver waved some of them off.

Are there brothels all along Jalan Kartini as well?[/QUOTE]To Marky.

Don't be naive Jalan Kartini is a long st only a few alley have pimp and girl, the last time I went to Taman sari 75 is was closed and that is 8 yr ago it is a boarding house offer girl around the corner from hotel travel totally different area just ask a taxi driver to take you to the actions don't walk up and down Jalan Kartini in the heat on your own totally waste of time.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;2005248]To Marky.

Don't be naive Jalan Kartini is a long st only a few alley have pimp and girl, the last time I went to Taman sari 75 is was closed and that is 8 yr ago it is a boarding house offer girl around the corner from hotel travel totally different area just ask a taxi driver to take you to the actions don't walk up and down Jalan Kartini in the heat on your own totally waste of time.

Fast Eddie 48.[/QUOTE]This was at about 11 pm at night where people were coming out of the shadows on Jalan Kartini ushering the cab to stop. I wasn't game to stop the cab.

[QUOTE=Marky1;2005420]This was at about 11 pm at night where people were coming out of the shadows on Jalan Kartini ushering the cab to stop. I wasn't game to stop the cab.[/QUOTE]To Marky1.

You must be very brave or have a death wish walking down Jalan Kartini at night, this is a bad area of town where low life and drug pusher hang out there are no paved sidewalk with many motorbike that don't slow down for no one, it is better just go to hotel travel or classic not worth the it for some cheap actions.

Fast Eddie 48.

I'm always interested in new places for free lancers. When is the earliest time that I might find action at Lokasari Plaza or Tamansari? Would much be happening in the mid-afternoon? Or is this only an after dark place?

And, Tamansari is an area, is there a specific street or place to go? Or just get a taxi at, say, Lokasari and say "Cari Cewek" and let him handle the rest?

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2003703]

You will find ladies at Lokasari plaza of unknown provenance. Alternately ask the taxi to take you to Tamansari which is right close by. Tell them you want to "cari cewek". Taxi will enter street and get flagged down by a spotter. Slip the spotter 10 k. Pretty soon an Innova full of girls will pull up and you can pick out the one you want. 500ST, take back to hotel. Not sure LT cost. If theres no girl to your liking in that innova. Wait 5 minutes and another will be along or go a little further down the street. Phones will be running hot and all the innova's will be heading to your location. Think of yourself as a new years sale.

OS.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2008143]I'm always interested in new places for free lancers. When is the earliest time that I might find action at Lokasari Plaza or Tamansari? Would much be happening in the mid-afternoon? Or is this only an after dark place?

And, Tamansari is an area, is there a specific street or place to go? Or just get a taxi at, say, Lokasari and say "Cari Cewek" and let him handle the rest?[/QUOTE]I would not call those girls "freelancers". In my opinion, a free lancer is a girl you meet in a bar and chat her up. If you hit it off, you go home together and she keeps all the money she makes. There is no pimp involved. That is absolutely not what tamansari is. You can get in almost any non-bluebird line taxi (bluebird company drivers are usually the most naive and don't know crap about anything) and tell them you want to charry chayway at tamansari. Once the taxi has the idea of what you are looking for, the taxi will know various seedy pimp controlled vans and small pimp controlled rooms near that area with some girls they can show you. It's just some girls sitting around waiting to be picked. You won't be sitting with them and chatting them up, you merely look and tell the pimp or mamasan which one you want. Don't expect to find more than a 6 or 7 out of 10 at best. These will not likely be stunners. As far as earliest time to go, I would guess around 11pm. Although that may be a bit early.

On another note, I went to CJs Wednesday night and the talent level was off the hook. Absolutely awesome selection. I can't say that I've seen a better crop of girls in one bar at any point in my 20 years in Jakarta. But it's a crime how much money these girls want these days. And guys must be paying it because the girls stand firm asking for 2 million. Crazy.

Thanks Smoothy -.

1) so Tamansari is too late for my schedule. What's the earliest for Lokasari and is the quality just as bad? And, is this a pimped or FL situation?

2) CJ's. These would have all been mid-late 20's girls or older, correct? I'm not going to find anything under 22 there am I? Last few times, the place really sucked for me. Glad to hear there was something nice to look at, if it not to hook up with.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2008186]I would not call those girls "freelancers". In my opinion, a free lancer is a girl you meet in a bar and chat her up. If you hit it off, you go home together and she keeps all the money she makes. There is no pimp involved. That is absolutely not what tamansari is. You can get in almost any non-bluebird line taxi (bluebird company drivers are usually the most naive and don't know crap about anything) and tell them you want to charry chayway at tamansari. Once the taxi has the idea of what you are looking for, the taxi will know various seedy pimp controlled vans and small pimp controlled rooms near that area with some girls they can show you. It's just some girls sitting around waiting to be picked. You won't be sitting with them and chatting them up, you merely look and tell the pimp or mamasan which one you want. Don't expect to find more than a 6 or 7 out of 10 at best. These will not likely be stunners. As far as earliest time to go, I would guess around 11pm. Although that may be a bit early.

On another note, I went to CJs Wednesday night and the talent level was off the hook. Absolutely awesome selection. I can't say that I've seen a better crop of girls in one bar at any point in my 20 years in Jakarta. But it's a crime how much money these girls want these days. And guys must be paying it because the girls stand firm asking for 2 million. Crazy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2008186]I can't say that I've seen a better crop of girls in one bar at any point in my 20 years in Jakarta. But it's a crime how much money these girls want these days. And guys must be paying it because the girls stand firm asking for 2 million. Crazy.[/QUOTE]Who is paying these rates? I say this in all seriousness as last time in Indo, I didn't spend much time in Jakarta but I did get to a lot of the Oil & Gas and Mining towns. Literally not an expat to be seen so I'm interested in who is feeding this market. Surely not local KITAS holders as they are very thin on the ground.

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2008215]Thanks Smoothy -.

1) so Tamansari is too late for my schedule. What's the earliest for Lokasari and is the quality just as bad? And, is this a pimped or FL situation?

.[/QUOTE]If you go to the open restaurants near Princen Park Hotel in Lokasari (where both Bung Karno and John Wayne were famously photographed mongering for FiFi Young lookalikes) early afternoons you should find freelance girls. There is the odd fat Ambonese Mama who may wish to help. I've picked up from there on half a dozen occasions. Sometimes the girls want cash or a down payment to go to the Mama but it is essentially because they don't trust you as a foreigner and are scared of getting scammed rather than being pimped off IMHO.

I seem to recall the openair McDonalds has closed down, but there are other similar cafe's nearby to choose from.

I'm not to sure about approaching taxi drivers or security guards will get results but if you do it would be better being clearer and asking for "Prelans" rather than the generic "Cewek" which will inevitably just lead you to a mundane brothel or massage. When I'm wandering around Lokasari and get stopped and asked where I'm going I usually say Tangkiwood / Gang Tangki as that's where the local starlets are rumored to hangout.

[QUOTE=UsPete;2008307] you do it would be better being clearer and asking for "Prelans" rather than the generic "Cewek" which will inevitably just lead you to a mundane brothel or massage. When I'm wandering around Lokasari and get stopped and asked where I'm going I usually say Tangkiwood / Gang Tangki as that's where the local starlets are rumored to hangout.[/QUOTE]So what's the difference between Prelans and Cewek. Google doesn't seem to have Prelans as a Bahasa word.

And, what age and quality of girls will one find in the afternoons?

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2008330]So what's the difference between Prelans and Cewek. Google doesn't seem to have Prelans as a Bahasa word.

And, what age and quality of girls will one find in the afternoons?[/QUOTE]Its actually Freelancers, which is pronounced as Prelans in local language. This means, seeking his help to find a freelancer for you.

[QUOTE=JohnAldrich;2008337]Its actually Freelancers, which is pronounced as Prelans in local language. This means, seeking his help to find a freelancer for you.[/QUOTE]So where can we find a basic monger lexicon for Indonesia? It appears there are more specific words relevant to mongers than in most locations. I figured out that "bule" is the Indonesian equivalent of "farang" or "gaijin", but the rest is a bit confusing.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2008342]So where can we find a basic monger lexicon for Indonesia? It appears there are more specific words relevant to mongers than in most locations. I figured out that "bule" is the Indonesian equivalent of "farang" or "gaijin", but the rest is a bit confusing.[/QUOTE]I doubt whether any resource is available. It comes with interaction with locals and one would learn it through experience. Just keep mongering and you will find out on your own.

[QUOTE=JohnAldrich;2008609]I doubt whether any resource is available. It comes with interaction with locals and one would learn it through experience. Just keep mongering and you will find out on your own.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.amazon.com/Making-Out-Indonesian-Revised-Phrasebook/dp/0804833702[/URL]

Returning to the Mulia after about a four years, any change to the walk of shame procedures?

I remember always having to walk the girl out to the taxi rank otherwise Security would hit them up for cash.

[QUOTE=Pita123;2008639][URL]https://www.amazon.com/Making-Out-Indonesian-Revised-Phrasebook/dp/0804833702[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks! You know I actually was goggling my question earlier this evening, and guess what came up? My post with my question on ISG. That book looks like just what I needed.

And yes, I did a lot of googling today, so I wouldn't be asking you guys dumb questions that could be answered elsewhere. What I found out was exciting and suddenly I realized what you guys were on to (and others apparently are not). So, I am going to put forward some assumptions here about Indonesia based on my evening of net surfing and please chime in. I'm sure others will benefit as well as myself (see, I am not being totally selfish here).

So, here are some things that I can discern about Indonesia:

1) The girls are just as pretty, if not prettier than, any other place in Asia.

2) The girls are notably friendly, easy going, and quite approachable by Western males.

3) Bules are not so common in Indonesia, so my light skin carries with it a bit of appeal to some Indonesian ladies (something the "farang" in Thailand can no longer claim).

4) Indonesia doesn't have distinct seasonal weather patterns, so no time of year is particularly advantageous to visit from a weather perspective. Its seems that the infidel needs to plan his visits around the Muslim holidays, instead.

5) Jakarta is very cheap for a capital city, with cheap hotels, cheap beer, and relatively cheap girls.

6) Jakarta is host to a bevy of budget, regional air carriers that can get you to mongering destinations in Asia, quite easily and economically.

7) If you want to get out of Jakarta, there is a plethora of other attractions and activities to be had elsewhere, just on Java alone.

Your thoughts, please. Is there something else I am missing?

[QUOTE=BuleBusiness;2008740]Returning to the Mulia after about a four years, any change to the walk of shame procedures?

I remember always having to walk the girl out to the taxi rank otherwise Security would hit them up for cash.[/QUOTE]Nothing has changed in the last 15 years, let alone the last 4. The only change is the price has increased.

There has been a lot of talk about looking for free lancers up north. Hopefully some of you gents will share some photos of your conquests.

Hello bros,

I was in happening Jakarta recently and thought I share my reports in meeting the local beauties.

First I will start with the bad:

Classic Level 2.

Not sure if many know of a young slim short girl with great rack by name of "Okter" or "Octa", when you walk in she is part of the group in the far right wall at the back.

Anyway I went there with her in mind but she was not around.

Pushy masman lady said she had Ockta#2, and she showed me two. Can't remember names.

Took the first one, she was young, short, big rack, wore a white head band and had a few tattoos but spoke no English.

Yet straightway in room I found out why I shouldn't be going back to Classic level 2. Her service was okay but there was a strong Vag smell, no doubt some bad bacteria done there!

I fucked her all the same.

Did a couple of different positions and finished off but she didn't want to provided CBJ cause the condom (which we took straight out of wrapper) had too much of a smell for her! . really the condom is what's smelling too much? I think she was trying to cover up her own bad vag.

Anyway was done with her within 45 minutes, of course she asked for tip and I gave her 80 k.

But I not satisfied and then took girl#2 about 30 minutes later.

Can't remember name but again early 20's, short and slim. But yet again vag smell. Damn it!

Yet this one was strange girl and just put me totally off. First she had baby scars and recent baby tummy and then didn't want me to see her pussy and kept covering it with her hand, which just sort of freaks me out cause I wonder what she trying to hide!

Anyway she told me through google translate she has "shame" of showing her vag and prefer not to show it. I wasn't about to stick my little bro into unknown territory so I made her give me a BJ but couldn't hit it cause just not in mood, that lasted 30 minutes.

Of course she also asked for a tip, this time I declined.

Again I not satisfied.

Decided to grab a girl from another section and found Leea.

When you walk in and face the men's room, she sits in the first group on the right of the men's room.

She had a really great rack but was reluctant in letting me suck on it till she got in the mood and then she was pushing her tits in my face!

However, the curse of Classic Lvl2 was back as YET again bad vag smell. Danm it classic get your girls some anti-bacteria creams!

But after two failures I just wanted to smash something and she was more and more up for it as time went on and we fucked in multiple positions. Her doggy was awesome seeing her big tits jiggling whilst bent over!.

Of course she asked for tip and gave her 100 k. She asked I come back next day and said I would.

However, I didn't go back cause the bad vag smell I found out is not an issue in the next couple places I visited. Illegals and Classic lvl 5 which I will report next.

[QUOTE=Flyboy2000;1991520]Starting to map out my Jakarta visit for next month and in addition to a little of the usual 'fun' I'm interested in trying Tongkat Ali, which is a natural 'male performance' (aka testosterone booster) herb common in south-east Asia, mostly Indonesia & Malaysia according to my research. Do any of the Jakarta regulars here know of this stuff and more importantly, can they suggest any specific places where it can be bought? I'm uncertain if this is something common at pharmacies, local versions of those 'Chinese herbal medicine' stores or simply some little 'hole in the wall' chemists (like the one in HKG from whom I buy Cialis).[/QUOTE]Junior needs help. So I would also like to get some. PM me if you wish to keep confidential. I will be in Jakarta next week. Thanks.

[QUOTE=FunMan13;2010461]Junior needs help. So I would also like to get some. PM me if you wish to keep confidential. I will be in Jakarta next week. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Tongkat Ali is available abroad. It is distributed in capsules with the crushed herb, but the extract from the root, in liquid form is said to be the best. I've ordered it over Ebay, but it can be found on Amazon. Basically, it boosts your testosterone, so it is not like an herbal Viagra. Rather, it is supposed to assist your general condition by improving your hormonal balance. Body builders and other people involved in athletics take it, as well, because it assists in building muscle. I took it a couple of weeks before my trip to Thailand, and I do think it helped. However, it is something you need to take over a period of time to benefit from.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2010469]Tongkat Ali is available abroad. It is distributed in capsules with the crushed herb, but the extract from the root, in liquid form is said to be the best. I've ordered it over Ebay, but it can be found on Amazon. Basically, it boosts your testosterone, so it is not like an herbal Viagra. Rather, it is supposed to assist your general condition by improving your hormonal balance. Body builders and other people involved in athletics take it, as well, because it assists in building muscle. I took it a couple of weeks before my trip to Thailand, and I do think it helped. However, it is something you need to take over a period of time to benefit from.[/QUOTE]Every pharmacy in Malaysia has different types of this. Creams, pills, liquids etc. Malaysian in their shy innocent and sexually unadventurous way all giggle like schoolboys if you mention Tongkat ali. Very freely available. Didn't do anything for me after using for one month.

Despite several successful prior visits to Jakarta, this time I decide to try the guiding services of Jakarta After Dark com. I was reluctant considering the price, $200, but after some research and recommendations from other seniors on the forum decided to take a chance. The tours are provided by an experienced Indonesian gentleman with a graduate school business education who has lived and mongered in Jakarta for 20+ years he is well-known and recommended by many of our senior members on the Jakarta forum. You can see some of the details of his experiences, and find means of booking his services, on his website: [URL]http://jakartaafterdark.com/[/URL] (look toward the bottom of the very long home page for these details). There were also some posts in the classified section of the Indo forum about him.

My primary interest was exploring off-the-beaten-path places that I might not otherwise have found on my own. Contacting JAD was easy, but he is not super responsive to e-mails since he only checks once a day. I opened a fake g-mail account to communicate just to be cautious. After a few exchanges of messages in which I told him my schedule and interests, he asked for confirmation of my hotel reservation. I was a little put off by this since I consider that confidential. He asks for this because he has been burned in the past by people making bookings and then not showing up after he has blocked time and traveled to meet them. Eventually I got comfortable with this based on feed-back from others. After confirming my hotel reservation, he confirmed the appointment and provided his mobile number in a final e-mail before I left my home country.

On arrival at the airport I got a SIM card and let him know I was on my way. We met at my hotel in the early afternoon and we quickly scouted several free-lancer locations where independent networks of mamasans and girls work at various hours of the afternoon. These were in North Jakarta. The first couple of locations were unknown to me and mostly seemed to be near hotels on side streets. But no action at 4:00 pm there. I didn't note the exact locations but JAD said this area was most active around 2:00 pm.

A much superior experience was obtained by a visit to Lokasari Plaza at 4:30 pm. Lokasari is a well-known to long-time JK mongers as the former home of Town Country / Tiara Ceria. These places have long closed. JAD has known many of the mamasans here for more than 10 years he and was able to guide me to several networks. The most productive was an old woman who sits on the outside tables of the KFC. She had several girls of interest and I selected one before being escorted by her to the FF Hotel where 3 hour rates cost 200,000. (6 hour and overnight are also available). The girls normally charge 300,000 but the 18-year-old I wanted insisted on 400,000. Which considering the exchange rate, was acceptable to me.

While her young firm body was stunning, her service was lackluster. Still I enjoyed the session. Then the girl asked me if I'd like to meet her friend. I asked a few questions about her and then said yes as in the past, the meet my friend connect has been very good. We exchanged numbers and she promised to contact me. As I said good by to her and prepared to get myself dressed, there was a knock on the door which, wrapped only in a damp bath towel, I opened to find another mamasan (unclear if she worked for the old lady or was working here own game) At her side was another young lady who she offered for 300,000. She was a little chubby to my taste, but the innocence of her smile and the immediate convenience won me over (I'm nearly naked, the bed is 2 meters away, the girl is ready to go and the price is ~$25) and I agreed to take her for spin and see how it went. This was a great, long session with a fresh young 18-year-old who seemed at first reluctant but as the minutes went on, grew increasing horny herself and judging by the extreme moaning seemed to enjoy, or accept at least, being aggressively fucked for 20 minutes in a variety of positions. I paid her 300 k (plus 100 k tip) and left the room, dropping the key at reception.

JAD then took me south to a mall where he indicated, we might find other networks of women and girls, but after walking the whole place, found nothing of interest. JAD said this was a good spot at 3:00 pm to 5:00 pm, but we were too late.

Still "hungry" I wanted to return to Lokasari for a late "snack". Along the way we stopped at Travel Hotel, a place I had not visited before, which had some very attractive girls and was offering 1 girl (inclusive of a nice room) for 350,000 or 2 for 550,000. I considered a stunner with a tight red dress but wanted to look further. This was a mistake as she was the hottest to my taste in the place and by the time I returned, she was taken. I tried a new 18-year-old who claimed to have been working 6 months. SHe had decent looking tits and was a little fat, but not too bad, with fair skin and short black hair. The room was very large, clean and comfortable. Unfortunately, the service was very bad with the girl only offering 3-minute blow job, which she tried to insist be CBJ and with great difficulty I was able to obtain as BBBJ. She had a dozen rules about no fingering, not sucking on her right nipple, no touching the back of her head, etc. The rest only got worse so I banged her hard a for a few minutes until her "black-face" turned me off and I left the room unfulfilled. Probably should have complained to the front desk, but these girls have hard lives and I don't know what her backstory or prior experiences were. I expect she won't be working there much longer.

We returned to Lokasari with JAD showing me a few new bars that had loads of girls, but most too fat or too old for my taste. But in the plaza area we found another good experience for 300 k. I beautiful 18-19 year old. Tall, thin with small tits and a very nice body inspite of a couple of tattos. JAD later told me that she was actually a mother, which I never would have guessed considering how tight she was. Funny how some women's bodies can handle a baby and spring back so nicely and others are marked for life.

I finally made my way back to my Central JK hotel around 11:30 pm. JAD having spent almost 7 hours at my side despite the promise of a "3-hour" tour. I tipped him an additional $100 on top of his normal fee of $200.

The next afternoon, I returned on my own to Lokasari to try my luck around 2:00 pm. The old woman arranged with a few phone calls a couple of ladies over the course of two hours. Same price, same drill. Coincidently JAD was in the plaza area and he helped translate a few times from me and was of assistance but asked for no fee. I left soon after that for my business meetings and then flight to my next destination, very satisfied and happy.

*Conclusions: JAD was terrific and I consider the money well-spent since he showed me places and knew details that I hadn't seen on ISG before. He's a standup guy that I felt I could trust. However, it's important to understand that he takes no part in the actual negotiations with any girl and won't arrange anything as a middleman. He is careful to be only a guide and interpreter and not a pimp and while offered kick-backs from the mamas, says doesn't take them because he wants to remain 100% legal. (he also an accomplished artist and filmmaker if that's an interest.) But, his fee is equal to 3 or 4 sessions, so if money is tight you will probably choose to rely on the forum and your own experience. Or of course if you already know the town cold and are happy with what you find his service would be unnecessary. But for those with a little coin and an interest in exploring or a newby to JK who wants to not waste anytime, he's a great service. For Me? I'll hire him again and see what new things he can show me since I have limited interest in the normal venues of loud bars and bordellos staffed by professional hookers. His knowledge of the scene is encyclopedic and he has lots of stories to tell. As a well-educated professional his thoughts and insights about the workings of the business in JK were interesting and useful to the adventurous monger.

*Lokasari is certainly not everyman's cup-of-tea. The girls are less polished and often less beautiful than those in the clubs, some look a little rough around the edges, but many are fresh to the business. I tested all my partners with the Ora-Quick HIV test but found no positives. The area is grimy and dark, no one speaks English and, the hunting is unpredictable, so you must be patient and stroll looking in the shadows. On the other hand, the FF Hotel is clean, very serviceable and the convenience can't be beat I could image a frugal monger might take a room there for the night. So, if you like clubs and bars and socializing with potential partners in clean places with music and cold beer, you will probably not enjoy Lokasari. But I liked the grit and chance to find the occasional young flower not yet hardened by the bordello and club scams and scenes. It was a nice change of pace from my prior visits.

As a P.S. - the growing demands of club girls for CBJ is discouraging I understand this is now near-protocol at Alexis. Gentlemen, we need to resist this!!

A late post on this.

This was a new experience for me and I thank the fellow contributors for encouragement. On this trip to Jakarta I decided to play around with Tinder and see what turned up. As it was 20 and 22 year old semi-amateurs turned up in my bed at the Four Seasons for separate sessions.

The 20 year old was very nice, eager for the sex, and appreciative of the minor "taxi money" I provided. She was slim by Indonesian standards with medium-sized "be" cups, a beautiful ass (so common here), and a lust for DFK that was inspiring. I tipped her about 600,000 (USD43).

Here is how we came together.

Primer on Tinder skip if you know all this: Tinder, so far as I can tell, requires a Facebook account to authenticate members. This is a good thing in that the girls that are on the site seem to be real people and the photos, while they could be faked, are part of her real Facebook profile, I believe. That's all good from the woman's side, but I'm a married guy and I'm not going to link my real Facebook account to Tinder. As it happens, a few years ago I purchased a few fake seasoned FB accounts and linked one of these. (I don't think this is strictly necessary, it's not too difficult to set up an alternative FB account if you have a sim card.).

Anyway, I uploaded one or two actual photos of myself from a few years ago when I looked a bit less ancient. In the comments section I said something like "older guy looking for company of nice woman. TTM (which means a hook-up for sex) or long term companion. Taxi money. (aka I'll pay you)".

I signed up for the one month Premium package that allows one to set a location different from where you are at the moment and allows hiding of age (the girl sees your photo but not your age). I selected the age of woman I wanted to meet: 18-22 years. And then began to look at photos of girls who had said that they were open to meeting men of my stated age (I shaved a few years off the actual). Wow! The first stack was probably 80 girls. Most with fairly nice photos. At first I thought there are a lot of girl open to a gig with older guys including many that are only shown with a hajib. But obviously, this isn't the case. These are mostly younger women who have said that they are open to a large age range of men and get some pleasure from being viewed and occasionally selected by guys that they would never actually meet.

Out of the 80 I probably right-swiped (aka indicated interest) 25 of them. Why say no to an 18 year old? Out of this I got a match with 3 girls. This took 40 minutes. One was a girl offering in-room massage but "no sex". One was a cute 21 year old in the financial services business with a hajib and one was Fila. I responded to all 3 and got a conversation going with Fila. She seemed nice so after chatting (messaging) for 15 minutes. I suggested she come to my hotel so that we could meet in person. At this point she asked about money. I said "come over and I'll buy you a drink and give you 200,000 for taxi money (this is about 5 x what her transport would cost I think). If we like each other then we can decide what next" She said yes and was in the bar with me in 90 minutes. We hit it off fine and I took her to my room where I fuck the shit out of her for an hour and slipped 600,000 total into her pocket and sent her home. Great fun!

The next day, I matched with a 22 year old who was much cuter. We messaged and it became clear that she was a semi-wealth girl with a BMW and couldn't make her lease payment this month. I tried the come on over for 200,000 and see what happens but clearly she wanted something more firm. So I took a chance and offered her 1,000,000 and she was at my hotel in 60 minutes. She looked exactly like her photos and was naked in my bed 15 minutes later. But she wasn't into the sex and was a bit of whinner. I mentioned that if she needed money she should just go down to BATS and she would be mobbed by mongers and could charge close to 2,000,000 but she was horribly insulted by this thought. I paid her the 1. 0 million ($75) and considered it a reasonable experience.

*Conclusion: This was kind of fun and an interesting way to have a session with a non-professional. Both women's spoke excellent English and were university educated so the conversation was interesting. Both looked exactly like their photos. I have kept in touch with Fila and could try to reconnect on a future visit. Others have suggesting getting started on chatting these girls up weeks in advance of your trip. For me, the same day seemed to work just fine, but I am older and I seriously doubt any of these girls was looking for a relationship they just needed some quick cash from a decent guy. I suppose if you were a handsome 25-35 year old many of the girls would select you because they were interested in a relationship. These might take some chatting up to get them to your bedroom for little or no money.

Shortly after New Years, with an upcoming trip to JK in the cards, I decided to turn-on my seldom used Tinder account a week in advance and see what turned up in the 18-22 year old category. My experience was about the same as previous (see post below "Tinder Times 2016") I connected and started a chat with 3 girls. One dropped off quickly. The other two were as different as could be.

The first girl who "matched" (selected me) was a shock. Couldn't believe it. She was 19 and had posted, with zero pretensions, 4 innocent shots showing a lovely face, thin body, large breasts discreetly covered, long legs. I chatted with her for an hour or so of friendly, but not too flirty, banter. She said she lived with her grandfather who was extremely strict and she always had to be home by 4:30 pm from university. Whoa, this doesn't' should like a girl looking to hook-up for a quick buck. Nevertheless to quickly sort that out and quit wasting my time, I then asked if we could meet in my hotel. She said no way, she didn't do that sort of thing, but she'the meet me in a mall. I still wasn't in JK so we chatted a few more times and she was very engaging in an innocent curious way. She seemed to be looking for a friend not for money, so I didn't talk about money. Now I was actually getting interested in meeting her even if nothing came from it.

On arrival, I met her for lunch at a place near her school though she was careful to never tell me the name of her school. She was girl-next-door beautiful, with long legs, big eyes, conservatively dressed with a casual sexy innocence that I've rarely encounter outside of a Nabokov novel. We had a sweet but awkward conversation. She seemed to draw herself closer to me as the meal wore on and I ended up touching and stroking her leg a bit. I still couldn't figure out if she really wanted a slow-moving relationship with a guy 2 x-3 x her age, just biding her time until something better came along, if she was fishing for money or all three. In the end, I decided to sort some of that out by suggesting that she come to my hotel the following day. She said she would try. I figured that was the end of this.

Several hours later, I get a WhatsApp message saying that she was in big trouble as she'the been caught by her grandfather (probably a guy closer to my age! Haha) for missing class when she went to have lunch with me. I figured that was her way of cancelling but in the end she caught a taxi at 10:00 am and was at the hotel at 10:30. She was shy and bashful and not really affectionate. I think she was scared as hell but also excited about what might happen. It was like being in high school again. Only this time I was a better seducer and had her naked in bed by 10:45 am. She was wet as hell, running-down-her-leg wet. But still didn't seem very into things. We had sex, but it was like she was a high schooler unsure of her own sex drive. She said she'the had two boyfriends but didn't like fucking. It was a surreal experience. We lay in bed and talked for another hour with me alternately fondling her young body and stroking her hair, her just lying there a little starfish like. She left at 0:00 pm, me having previously slipped 800,000 into her purse. She sent a message saying it was nice to see me and thanking me for the money. I replied that "every student needs a little help now and then with money". We are still in touch. I think she's happy to have someone pay attention to her and while the sexual attraction may be one-sided she's getting a bit more forward in our chats. A novel experience for me. Will see where it leads.

The second girl, Cill, at 22 years was, judging by photos (which are likely accurate since they come from her FaceBook account) was a thin woman with big tits which she featured in many of her photos. We chatted over the course of a few nights. She was a total sex addict and loved to talk dirty and give me advice on how to hook an Indonesian girl. I told her about some of my previous experiences. She suggested changing my profile to say "Generous gentleman, kind and honest" rather than "happy to pay taxi money" since the latter she felt sounded low-class and would offend many women. She said all the young women want in a Western man is someone who has different color eyes. It was rather entertaining. When I finally arrived in Jakarta, I didn't have time to connect with her, but she might have been real fun she clearly was looking for sex and some pocket money from an older western man. I suspect she'the have been a very good fuck.

So, Tinder: an avenue to a different kind of more innocent woman. More educated and less professional hooker. Where you may need a good picture and a few chatting-up skills. Give it a go, but suggest you set up a fake Facebook account (google that) with a fake name and a few pictures, perhaps older ones but of you nonetheless or someone who resembles you. I understand the cupid site and others may offer similar experiences.

Went on a Sunday and it was free entry.

Was my first time there and have to say it's much better than Level 2.

Two sections of girls up on a well lit stage so good view of them in bright light unlike Level 2.

Not crowded and not so pushy masmans.

First section had 15 girls but next section just over 30.

Asked for an english speaking girl and got introduced to Pay. Tight body, short hair but some tatoos however I could look past the tattoos after grabbing her ass and it was rock hard. Why do Jakarta woman have such great ass's?

Took for an hour at $350 k.

In room realised her left hand was in bandage, turned out she came off her scooter and cut it up, again didn't care cause my hand was in heaven squeezing her amazing ass!

She ordered a couple things in Indo so I didn't know what it was, turned out to be water and cigarettes, she asked later if it was a problem not asking first? By now she was naked and with that hard ass she had equally great pair of large tits on her, so I said I didn't mind she can just make it up to me with good sex.

Started off with DATY which surprised her but she asked to stop after 5 minutes because she was getting wet and wanted sex, so slipped on a rubber and fucked her missionary and in Victory positions for around 20 to 30 minutes.

She was super wet after that, she was surprised I hadn't cum yet as I was banging her pretty hard.

She asked for doggy and I obliged but she was just so wet and slippery so I couldn't get a rhythm going. I started to go soft so finished her off with my hand. Yet when she started moaning and grinding against my hand she just got me revved up and hard.

So I climbed on top of her, tucked both her legs under my left arm and fucked her hard sideways till I came. We were both spent after that and she crawled off the bed and into the shower.

Was a great fuck and I will most def repeat. Pay again.

She didn't ask for tip but I gave her 100 k.

Will def be going to Classic Level 5 rather than 2 in the future.

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2011198]Despite several successful prior visits to Jakarta, this time I decide to try the guiding services of Jakarta After Dark com. I was reluctant considering the price, $200, but after some research and recommendations from other seniors on the forum decided to take a chance. The tours are provided by an experienced Indonesian gentleman with a graduate school business education who has lived and mongered in Jakarta for 20+ years he is well-known and recommended by many of our senior members on the Jakarta forum. You can see some of the details of his experiences, and find means of booking his services, on his website: [URL]http://jakartaafterdark.com/[/URL] (look toward the bottom of the very long home page for these details). There were also some posts in the classified section of the Indo forum about him.

As a P.S. - the growing demands of club girls for CBJ is discouraging I understand this is now near-protocol at Alexis. Gentlemen, we need to resist this!![/QUOTE]Thanks for this info, I was keen to go to Loksari last time in Jakarta but didn't get chance, but also read it's sort of a place where it's just random and not certain to find a girl or at least a masman leading to a girl.

But you reckon that old woman masman in front of KFC is her set position?

Might try and see if I venture there.

Also JAD's services for the non brothel places (classic, Travel hotel) seem worth it, I wouldn't know where to go at street level.

Has anyone done Octa / Okter at classic level 2?

She an early 20's, short, slim with big tits. Sits on the far right wall when you walk in?

I asked cause fcked her couple weeks ago but she starfished me and I got annyoed and just fcked her hard and came after 30 mins with her.

She asked for a tip at the end and I being an angry arsehole at the time fitst said no but then gave hller only 50 k. Which is not a good tip and she made sure I knew, saying she gets double that, but me still being angry from her starfish mode just walked off on her.

Not good I know.

Anyway went back on a Sunday, and she was looking hot as because she hits all my buttons (young early 20's, short slim with a great rack).

So forget my starfish experience, I just wanted to fuck her again. But here the thing she refused!?

Most likey cause I didn't tip her well. So I thought fuck this place and went to level 5 and had great session with Pay (see other report).

So yeah, has anyone taken Okta before, what did you tip her or what have you tipped Classic girls before?

Any suggestions on SIM providers or packages?

My last visit, I bought a SimPATI card from the airport which promised 4 GB at 4 G speeds. It was fairly good, but the SMS and phone credits ran out very quickly. I found it very confusing to top up or know my balances.

Any better recommendations?

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2011579]Has anyone done Octa / Okter at classic level 2?

she starfished me[/QUOTE]Starfish is standard service at Classic. If you go to Classic, you have to expect that. The service there is crap on a regular basis. You are getting an hour with a young girl for very little money. That's the draw.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2011574]Thanks for this info, I was keen to go to Loksari last time in Jakarta but didn't get chance, but also read it's sort of a place where it's just random and not certain to find a girl or at least a masman leading to a girl.

But you reckon that old woman masman in front of KFC is her set position?

Might try and see if I venture there.
.[/QUOTE]I think that's her spot when she wants to be working, but she's not there other times. There are at least half a dozen mamas around that whole place, but you got to know where to look at what time of day. Seems like it's a decent afternoon place.

As well as Tinder, Couchsurfing is a great way to meet girls of university age. I've been using it for several years now, and had a lot of success without having to pay a single dime.

Don't request a place to stay (as the site is designed for), but just tell the girls that you're visiting Jakarta, would like to meet a local to show you around, be a tour guide for 1 day etc. Give them a compliment and say you find Indonesian girls beautiful, but she's especially beautiful. A lot of teasing and flirting. When you meet them, actually invest in their time and let them show you around, take them out for dinner and ask questions about life in Indonesia etc. Before making a move. You'll know if they're interested in you or not.

My most memorable experience was meeting a 21 year old whose family was currently away visiting relatives, and we had genuine fun "sightseeing", but by the end of the day it was clear she wanted to fuck me. She wouldn't come to my hotel as she had no experience of hotels and was scared, but I got sneaked in to her Kampung (a real slum area) in the middle of the night, not to arouse local suspicion. We spent all night fucking with no A/C or fan, it was like a sauna. To cut a long story short, her family returned a day early and I had to flee the house in the morning. But she came to my hotel that night and stayed overnight, telling her parents she was at a friend's house. She became my regular f*ck buddy in Jakarta and I saw her every time I visited, without paying anything. Sadly she's got married now and we've lost touch.

Another time I met a 19 year old who wanted to bring a friend along, which was no problem. Again, we had genuine fun with them showing me around, taking me to different areas of the city. That night they invited me to a birthday party of another friend, and I was the VIP. There were at least 4 girls there who looked like they'd fuck me, but I stuck with the original 2. The next day I messaged the cuter one and asked if she'd like to come to my hotel for dinner, to which she readily agreed. But she arrived with the same friend, which made things awkward. So I was amazed when they said after dinner, "so are we going to see your room now?

To cut another long story short, the 3 of us spent all night fucking, and they left the next day without me paying anything. I got a glowing review from the first girl on my Couchsurfing profile, saying I'd been fun to meet and she'd recommend me as I was polite and friendly.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2011900]Starfish is standard service at Classic. If you go to Classic, you have to expect that. The service there is crap on a regular basis. You are getting an hour with a young girl for very little money. That's the draw.[/QUOTE]OK true that, but what should you tip a classic girl who starfishes you?

I read a few reports which reckon the locals don't tip or at least not big?

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2011910]I think that's her spot when she wants to be working, but she's not there other times. There are at least half a dozen mamas around that whole place, but you got to know where to look at what time of day. Seems like it's a decent afternoon place.[/QUOTE]How did she show you the girls available, photo on phone?

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2011579]
So yeah, has anyone taken Okta before, what did you tip her or what have you tipped Classic girls before?[/QUOTE]I have no idea who Okta is, but all the girls there will be expecting the same tip. They normally all get 100 k as the routine tip amount (even from the locals).

Most of my Indonesian friends tell me they tip the girl 100 k no matter what, and if they didn't like them, they just don't repeat.

However, here is how I tip those girls:

1) If they insist on my wearing a condom for the BJ. NO TIP AT ALL (and likely I will immediately dress, walk out and complain to the mamasan to get a change of girl.).

2) If they show little to no affection or passion and just go through the motions (starfish) - NO TIP AT ALL or possibly 50 k depending if they at least provided me with some pleasure.

3) If they provide a good BJ and are some fun in bed and a good shag - 100 K.

4) If they provide outstanding service such as top notch BJ, giving my ass a good rimming, allowing anal, and allowing me to take photos and / or video, I may tip up to 300 k (happened once in over 100 visits there)

50 K tip to the girl after shagging her hard for a half hour will likely be considered an insult to the girl. The girls I do not tip at least 100 k are girls I would NEVER repeat. From my experience, Category 2 as listed above is the average Hotel Classic service.

I do find it interesting that 2 people know this girl by name. I can't recall the name of even one girl I have been with at Hotel Classic although I have been with many. They have over 100 girls working there. For 2 people to single one out, she must be special. I'll have to check her out. I won't take her to the back room because I don't like starfish, but I will take a photo of her and post it if I can (since you guys haven't shared).

On a side note, Okta is a very popular Indonesian name. If it's her real name, it likely means she was born in October. For some reason, Indonesians like to name their daughters various versions of Okta when their daughter is born in October. Oktavia, Oktaviani, Oktaviana, Oktania, Oktaria, Oktasari, Oktavita, Oktavitasari, etc.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2012032]I'll have to check her out. I won't take her to the back room because I don't like starfish, but I will take a photo of her and post it if I can (since you guys haven't shared)..[/QUOTE]I didn't know you could take photos in there but still its pretty dark.

When you walk in she sits in the group on the right at the far wall.

Three masmans knew who I was talking about when I said her name and each described her features to me as "short, slim, big chest".

So Okta means October, then my friend good luck on your "Hunt for Red Octa."

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2011948]OK true that, but what should you tip a classic girl who starfishes you?[/QUOTE]Nothing. A tip is optional. In my opinion, it's better to give no tip than a small tip they regard as insufficient.

Personally, I'd give a 50 k tip if I managed to give her a long, hard pounding while she starfished, she didn't make any turnoff moves, and didn't press too hard for a tip. Maybe 100 k if the service was actually good and affectionate, but this has yet to happen to me at either Classic or Travel.

Honestly, I don't care what locals do, we Bule will always be treated differently anyway.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2008186]<SNIP>

On another note, I went to CJs Wednesday night and the talent level was off the hook. Absolutely awesome selection. I can't say that I've seen a better crop of girls in one bar at any point in my 20 years in Jakarta. But it's a crime how much money these girls want these days. And guys must be paying it because the girls stand firm asking for 2 million. Crazy.[/QUOTE]I noticed that too on my last visit. Girls in Top Gun don't hesitate to demand 1 Juta for ST and take quite some haggling to go down to sensible rates.

[QUOTE=KoperenKlaas;2012704]I noticed that too on my last visit. Girls in Top Gun don't hesitate to demand 1 Juta for ST and take quite some haggling to go down to sensible rates.[/QUOTE]I'm interested in what is driving the price increases. On the Demand side Oil and Gas and Mining expat numbers have tanked and I'm not aware of any other industries that have provided a large influx of cashed up foreigners.

On the Supply side, more and more girls are making their way to the big city for jobs and / or education.

I realize it was a long time ago, but during the Suharto exit / CRISMON years many expats left and rates could be bargained down to a half or third of the normal. Now it should be a buyers market but prices are going up.

Any ideas?

[QUOTE=KoperenKlaas;2012704]I noticed that too on my last visit. Girls in Top Gun don't hesitate to demand 1 Juta for ST and take quite some haggling to go down to sensible rates.[/QUOTE]I find that after they come with you once, you can get their price down after that outside the CJs environment. Some CJs girls I take the first time for 1. 5 or even 2 million, will gladly come to my place other days for 1 million. I have one favorite who I have had come to my place many times now for 1 million. Recently she came over (no negotation of price) and I had planned to give her 1 million. However, rather than grab a few drinks at the local quiet pub or at my place like we normally do, I decided to bring her with me to CJs to watch the band and hang out for a while before returning home to shag. It was a Monday and I had been to CJs the previous Monday and it was a buyer's market for guys, with very few guys and lots of girls. So I felt it pretty safe to go there that Monday. However, when we got there, it was crowded and a complete sausage fest that night and my girl was by far the best looking girl in the place. On our way in, every guy's head turned as she walked by. We went to the back bar area and she obviously realized she was going to easily be able to get big money that night if she wanted to leave me and find a different client for the night. When the band played the song "Ya baby, I'm worth it", she made the comment that she was worth 2 million tonight. She stuck with me though, even though I wouldn't commit to giving her 2 million. I didn't end up giving her 2 million, but I did give her more than a million. It's the last time I will bring her to CJs.

[QUOTE=KoperenKlaas;2012704]I noticed that too on my last visit. Girls in Top Gun don't hesitate to demand 1 Juta for ST and take quite some haggling to go down to sensible rates.[/QUOTE]I paid 700 max for LT from Top Gun just a year ago. What's driving the prices up? Is Classic still the same low price?

I am an eternal optimist when it comes to searching for opportunities. The We Chat app has been close to a complete failure for me as far as "escort" girls who come to my place expressively for sex. I've only had a couple of good encounters out of many (but I continue trying. Haha). However, today I told the place I just wanted a massage. And I truly did just want a massage. However, the girl who showed up was stunning. The second she arrived, I was going to do whatever necessary to have that session finish with sex. It cost me a million rupiah by the time it was said and done, but this chick was awesome. I've had far more luck with the girls who claim they are coming to give a massage and no sex than the ones who are coming with a sex guarantee up front. Sure, sometimes the girl is ugly and I don't ask for sex. But about half of the time, they send a girl who is nice looking to do that "no sex" massage. And only once has the girl refused sex. Just my experience, maybe others have different experiences with that app. I normally use it when I'm sitting at home bored and no bars are open yet. Most times I do ask to see the photos of the girls before choosing one even if it's "just for massage".

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2013881]I am an eternal optimist when it comes to searching for opportunities. The We Chat app has been close to a complete failure for me as far as "escort" girls who come to my place expressively for sex. I've only had a couple of good encounters out of many (but I continue trying. Haha). However, today I told the place I just wanted a massage. And I truly did just want a massage. However, the girl who showed up was stunning. The second she arrived, I was going to do whatever necessary to have that session finish with sex. I".[/QUOTE]In WeChat is the "discover" option, I assume that is how you search for massage places?

Haven't used that function before.

I hadn't been to X2 in years, but woke up quite late last night and since most places were already closed, I decided to go to X2. I was likely the oldest guy in the place, but surprisingly had no problem at all meeting girls there and taking a very nice one home. I had been sticking to places like CJs and BATS for free lancers, but X2 appears to be quite a good option these days. Previously, I had only been there with my "serious" girlfriend so I didn't realize it was so easy to pick up girls there.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2012918]I find that after they come with you once, you can get their price down after that outside the CJs environment. Some CJs girls I take the first time for 1. 5 or even 2 million, will gladly come to my place other days for 1 million. I have one favorite who I have had come to my place many times now for 1 million. Recently she came over (no negotation of price) and I had planned to give her 1 million. However, rather than grab a few drinks at the local quiet pub or at my place like we normally do, I decided to bring her with me to CJs to watch the band and hang out for a while before returning home to shag. It was a Monday and I had been to CJs the previous Monday and it was a buyer's market for guys, with very few guys and lots of girls. So I felt it pretty safe to go there that Monday. However, when we got there, it was crowded and a complete sausage fest that night and my girl was by far the best looking girl in the place. On our way in, every guy's head turned as she walked by. We went to the back bar area and she obviously realized she was going to easily be able to get big money that night if she wanted to leave me and find a different client for the night. When the band played the song "Ya baby, I'm worth it", she made the comment that she was worth 2 million tonight. She stuck with me though, even though I wouldn't commit to giving her 2 million. I didn't end up giving her 2 million, but I did give her more than a million. It's the last time I will bring her to CJs.[/QUOTE]Are you not making the things too complex? Just negotiate the price before that is all, she will not fall in love of you and will not married you it is just sex and money, keep it simply.

Anyone had any success using this site in Jakarta?

I usually like to find a keeper for my week in Jakarta, useful for shopping, sharing meals, warming the bed. Someone that works during the day and likes a five star hotel rather than shared room they live in.

A richer experience than scooping one out of CJ's fucking them then fucking them off.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;2013164]I paid 700 max for LT from Top Gun just a year ago. What's driving the prices up? Is Classic still the same low price?[/QUOTE]To LifeIsABeach.

Yes rate have gone up a lot the last 10 yr price is double now maybe because most disco and club cater to foreigner, the low end brothel, classic and hotel travel do mostly local business rate only gone up 30 % the last 10 yr you also have to look at the exchange rate the USD and Euro are much stronger now even one Juta for LT still a bargain.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2012032]I do find it interesting that 2 people know this girl by name. I can't recall the name of even one girl I have been with at Hotel Classic although I have been with many. They have over 100 girls working there. For 2 people to single one out, she must be special. I'll have to check her out. I won't take her to the back room because I don't like starfish, but I will take a photo of her and post it if I can (since you guys haven't shared).[/QUOTE]Hey Smoothy, or anyone else that been to Classic recent.

Did you find Octer, curios what you think of her?

After over a year, I found myself with a 3-day visit to Jakarta. Was meeting some business acquaintances and an old girlfriend, but the rest of the trip was for hitting up the craziness. I find myself in the very bizarre situation of having money to burn for once, so I dropped 10 juta at Golden Crown in Glodok Plaza (didn't even get laid, but I still had a great night / morning! If pretending you're a rockstar for a night is something that interests you, I don't think you can go wrong with Jakarta clubs.

After resting all day, I hit up Classic Terminal 2 at about 10 pm on Wednesday night. Place was pretty rocking, with nude dancers on the stage and the requisite girls lining the walls. Even though I've been there several times, I forgot just how annoyingly pushy the shot girls and mamasans can be. Perhaps it's actually gotten worse with time, or my memory is tinged with rose-colored glasses. Either way, I was turned off by the (admittedly hot, but very drunk) young thing that quickly downed 3 shots (150 k) without even asking and then immediately asking for 100 k in cash. My protests in Bahasa Indonesia went unheard and it wasn't until I physically picked her off my lap and pointed for her to go away that she got the point. Being the sucker that I am, I still sent her away with 20 k and I apologize if this sullies the market! I hung out there until about midnight, even though there were no girls I was interested in banging.

After that, I made my way up the fifth floor bar. Again, I've been there before, but always waaaay too late in the evening, so I thought I'd give it a look at a more respectable hour. I do like the setup more, with the higher ceiling and just seems to be a more comfortable space overall. Live band was decent, too. I found a table and ordered the four bottle Bali Hai special (189 k). By the time I had half poured my glass, the most wonderful body I have ever touched was on my lap. I thought this was a 'here we go again' situation, but she was hot enough that I was willing to give her a chance. At first, she just wanted beer -- I think this is a good tactic -- if a girl with a body like this has any game or charm at all, she'll be able to convince you to buy her a few shots in time. Did she ever succeed! Bought her nine shots (315 k), tipped her 100 k, bought cigarettes for her and her friends. My 'fee' for all of this was that I got to ply her succulent body with my meaty paws to my heart's content. Of course, she had to 'go home' at 1:30, so it was short-lived, but I still consider it a good time. We exchanged Line contact info and I'll definitely look her up again whenever I get back to Jakarta. If you're ever in Terminal 5, look for a 155 cm goddess named Evelin.

I know this post doesn't offer too much in the way of new intel, but I was happy that an originally negative night turned out to be pretty decent. Thanks to all here who post info pointing the brotherhood in the right direction.

I know if two venues at Classic, but this makes me think I'm missing something. On the ground floor is some disco I never entered and the two floors up is the place with girls on couches around the side of the room. What is Classic 5 and how does one get there? Are there other venues there I'm missing?

[QUOTE=Seattle29;2011933]As well as Tinder, Couchsurfing is a great way to meet girls of university age. I've been using it for several years now, and had a lot of success without having to pay a single dime.

Don't request a place to stay (as the site is designed for), but just tell the girls that you're visiting Jakarta, would like to meet a local to show you around, be a tour guide for 1 day etc. Give them a compliment and say you find Indonesian girls beautiful, but she's especially beautiful. A lot of teasing and flirting. When you meet them, actually invest in their time and let them show you around, take them out for dinner and ask questions about life in Indonesia etc. Before making a move. You'll know if they're interested in you or not.

[/QUOTE]Are you posting this is a trip for people to see or just sending them private messages?

[QUOTE=Pita123;2016920]Are you posting this is a trip for people to see or just sending them private messages?[/QUOTE]You can make a public trip to attract "bids", but normally I just seek out cute-looking girls and private message them. It's amazing how many want to meet up with a bule and get a free dinner, as well as selfies to show off to their friends.

[QUOTE=Pita123;2016894]I know if two venues at Classic, but this makes me think I'm missing something. On the ground floor is some disco I never entered and the two floors up is the place with girls on couches around the side of the room. What is Classic 5 and how does one get there? Are there other venues there I'm missing?[/QUOTE]Yeah classic 5 is only level 5.

I put up a report a week ago and like it better than 3. My report was about a good English speak named Pay, had a great session.

When I was there it wasn't crowded, was more foreigners than locals (I think drink prices are slightly higher) and masman not pushy.

Will def go 5 first before 2 next time.

Some Tinder profiles in Jakarta have open BO, VCS and CS. Any idea what those mean?

[QUOTE=Pita123;2017080]Some Tinder profiles in Jakarta have open BO, VCS and CS. Any idea what those mean?[/QUOTE]It means they are a hooker.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2017304]It means they are a hooker.[/QUOTE]Can you please hip us to the meanings of those specific abbreviations?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2017304]It means they are a hooker.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I was more concerned that one of them may mean they are a ladyboy.

[QUOTE=Pita123;2017080]Some Tinder profiles in Jakarta have open BO, VCS and CS. Any idea what those mean?[/QUOTE]BO means booking out (prostitution), VCS stands for video cam sex, and CS stands for cam sex.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;2017463]BO means booking out (prostitution), VCS stands for video cam sex, and CS stands for cam sex.[/QUOTE]BO means Out-call, she will come to your hotel.

Many of these BO girls will also advise they do DP but don't get to excited and phone your mate to setup a threesome. It means she wants a deposit paid by bank transfer in advance, probably starting at 10 reds.

Anyone had any success through Bigo Live, I saw one girl getting drunk broadcasting from Bats the other week.

[QUOTE=UsPete;2017870]BO means Out-call, she will come to your hotel.

Many of these BO girls will also advise they do DP but don't get to excited and phone your mate to setup a threesome. It means she wants a deposit paid by bank transfer in advance, probably starting at 10 reds.

Anyone had any success through Bigo Live, I saw one girl getting drunk broadcasting from Bats the other week.[/QUOTE]Ha Ha, that's funny. Generally DP's are best left to the porn actors because usually your mate will get stage fright. That is OS's experience when he flops out his big thing. The girl's eyes get wider and the guy's eyes get wider and it all goes downhill from there.

On the deposit note, I have always refused to pay deposit if hunting on facebook and I still can't get my head around how in a country where it is extremely difficult to get credit and life is fraught with rip offs, that a system of DP for a meeting at the hotel later can work. In Indonesia labour is priced at next to nothing so a day organising a liasion, booking hotels, paying deposits and not arriving too early or too late while your lady friend is travelling from outer Tangerang is a great way to waste a whole day of head space and real time. For the locals its fine but I like to use my time more efficiently.

Certainly on facebook there are plenty of sad sack's displaying their deposit slip in the name of some fair maiden who has decided to go to the mall shopping on her new bank balance instead of meeting said sad sack as promised. Part of the art of enjoying punting is taking risks and that would extend to paying out a DP, and when you take risks you have to be prepared to fail, no loss of face there.

If looking for a no deposit kind of girl just add "no DP" at the end of your search.

Anybody had any bad experiences / good experiences with that DP leap of faith?

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2017919]
Anybody had any bad experiences / good experiences with that DP leap of faith?[/QUOTE]I would never send a deposit to any girl. In my opinion, that's just crazy and setting yourself up to be scammed. I also do not pay any girl in advance of services when she first arrives. It's allowing too much toward the chance of the service being sub par. I like the girl to receive money commensurate for the service level she provides. If she already has the money in pocket, where is the incentive?

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2017919]Ha Ha, that's funny. Generally DP's are best left to the porn actors because usually your mate will get stage fright. That is OS's experience when he flops out his big thing. The girl's eyes get wider and the guy's eyes get wider and it all goes downhill from there.[/QUOTE]The girl would have to be extremely hot for me to be slapping balls with some other dude during a DP of that chick. I like to watch it in the porn movies, but it has it's obvious disadvantages.

Moved from BKK thread.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2017307]Depends on the night. I was there {CJ's} last Saturday night and it was an absolute sausage fest. The guys outnumbered the girls 4 to 1. I left and went elsewhere.[/QUOTE]I hate sausage fests too. LOL. And try to avoid them at all cost. I am, however, planning on stopping by CJ's this Wednesday for ladies night. I sure hope the ratio is 4 to 1 the right way.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2018223]Moved from BKK thread.

I hate sausage fests too. LOL. And try to avoid them at all cost. I am, however, planning on stopping by CJ's this Wednesday for ladies night. I sure hope the ratio is 4 to 1 the right way.[/QUOTE]I will be there with 10 of my rugby buddies tonight. So that makes 12 guys already. If we are the only guys, then we only need 48 girls to show up for a 4 to 1 ratio.

Is Jakarta the new Bangkok? Whoo, why don't we hear more about this place? It's full of soapies and some really nice bars like Malioboro.

My only complaint is that it seems to be hard to find white skin / CIS / Russian girls outside of places like Malioboro. Would appreciate any recommendations. There seem to be none on cracker / backpage etc.

[QUOTE=TonyIndian;2018796]Is Jakarta the new Bangkok? Whoo, why don't we hear more about this place? It's full of soapies and some really nice bars like Malioboro.

My only complaint is that it seems to be hard to find white skin / CIS / Russian girls outside of places like Malioboro. Would appreciate any recommendations. There seem to be none on cracker / backpage etc.[/QUOTE]Trying to get connected but inbox is full! Can you clear!

[QUOTE=TonyIndian;2018796]It's full of soapies [/QUOTE]Really? I don't know one place in Indonesia that compares to any of the good soapies in Thailand. Soapies are not something to come to Jakarta for. If you want soapies, stick with Thailand.

As far as Russian girls, Malioboro and Alexis are the best places. Not a big selection though. However, a flight to Russia isn't all that expensive if Russian girls are your thing.

I arrived in Jakarta yesterday afternoon. After resting up and grabbing some dinner I headed over to CJ's around 10:30. Selected Grey Goose on the rocks (200,000) for my compulsory entry drink. My first reaction upon entering was OMG its the same cover band as last year. LOL. 2nd reaction was there are plenty of customers (good), a lot of sausages (bad), but ample supply of attractive, friendly FL's (good). I basically walked around the joint with my vodka on the rocks and either sat or stood in various locals to observe the girls in each local. Many girls (more than 5) directly hit on me, many others just demurely smiled as I walked by or looked their way. I was tired, however, not only from the early flight from BKK, but also from shagging at least one girl every night since I began this trip in Manila on February 24, so despite the fact that there were couple of girls I liked and would ordinarily enjoy doing; I decided to take a my first SEX BREAK of the trip!

So around 11:45 I left and took a taxi over to Bats at the Shangri-la just to see if anything good was going on there. I bought another Grey Goose and walked around the bar. My first reaction was the Bat's cover band was better than the CJ's house band because they were playing a little more rock and doing less talking. Bats is a smaller bar than CJ's but it had plenty of customers too (girls & sausages). Initially I didn't see very many girls I would care to do except perhaps one attractive girl sitting with 2 of her friends. I sat down near them and sipped my drink. The girls responded positively to my presence, but I kept my powder dry and did not approach them. Eventually one of the girls (not the cute one) approached me and we chatted a little. I was thinking of leaving when all of a sudden a very sexy, very friendly, smiling, outgoing, engaging little spinner walked past me. I smiled, she smiled, and well you guys know what happened. We danced, we kissed, I inspected the goods, I bought her a drink, then another drink and then I took her back to the Hyatt. 555! Best laid plans and all that. So I ended up having a great time my 1st night back in Jakarta. Was there any doubt? Tonight I go to Maliboro. I am really looking forward to tonight.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2018937]
As far as Russian girls, Malioboro and Alexis are the best places. Not a big selection though. However, a flight to Russia isn't all that expensive if Russian girls are your thing.[/QUOTE]Yeah, right. Go to Moscow if you want attractive Russian girls. They got Russian Federation girls at Malioboro and Alexis for outrageous prices, but they are DOGS! And I would not expect very good service from them. In fact, they would have to pay me to shag them. So for the life of me I can't understand why anyone would not prefer to do the young, delightful Indonesian girls at Alexis and Malioboro. But I guess it takes all kinds and everybody is entitled to their preferences no matter how ludicrous they may appear to be. 555.

Next best alternative to going to Russia to find quality Russian girls is going to Brix Bar at the Singapore Hyatt. A few years back I remember chatting with a blond, pretty, real Russian girl in Brix. Her breath stank of cigarettes, so even though she seemed very nice and she quoted me a reasonable rate, I opted out and chose a beautiful Vietnamese girl that night. Looking back I have no regrets and she was the best looking FL Russian girl I have ever seen in Asia.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2019012]Tonight I go to Maliboro. I am really looking forward to tonight. They got Russian Federation girls at Malioboro and Alexis for outrageous prices, but they are DOGS! [/QUOTE]There is actually one quite attractive Russian at Malioboro right now. (not as good as the best you will find in Russia, but this is a very pretty girl.) At 2.3 juta, I think she's actually worth the price. The problem is she is quite busy. As soon as she comes downstairs after a session, she is headed back upstairs again with a new customer within 5 minutes. She is the only Russian there making any money it seems, but she is raking it in. Another problem is she has dark hair. I prefer a white girl to have blonde hair and blue eyes.

I prefer the locals anyway. The dancers are 1.75 juta now. Locals are 900k, 1.1 juta or 1.6 juta (models) in the main room and 600k in the smaller lounge with the live band.

It seems the other non Russian imports are 2 juta. There is one very hot Vietnamese girl there currently.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2019012]My first reaction was the Bat's cover band was better than the CJ's house band because they were playing a little more rock and doing less talking.[/QUOTE]I like the band at CJs better. However, there are 2 guys in the band at CJs that they would be better off dumping. The only singers they need are the blonde girl, the indo girl, and the short black guy. When the other 2 guys sing, I stop paying attention. They are a detriment to that band.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2019019]

Next best alternative to going to Russia to find quality Russian girls is going to Brix Bar at the Singapore Hyatt. [/QUOTE]Or how about Western Europe? Its full of Russian hookers who work at a discount to the local girls, and you don't need to go through the hoops of getting a Russian visa and other hassles I can only imagine. Last time I was in Ukraine, it was also a big hassle / hustle and I doubt that has changed much. But, I came across plenty of FSU girls in Berlin, where they make up a significant part of an extremely large number of working girls in that cities large number of brothels. Its also one of the cheapest places to monger in Northern Europe by most accounts and the cheapest capital city to visit. Alcohol there is cheaper than in Bangkok or Santo Domingo.

How safe is it for a white middle aged guy to walk around Lokisari plaza and then wander over to Travel at different parts of the day? They seem pretty close together.

[QUOTE=BacchusWest;2020047]How safe is it for a white middle aged guy to walk around Lokisari plaza and then wander over to Travel at different parts of the day? They seem pretty close together.[/QUOTE]Your risk of things like crime are negligible, but don't "tempt fate" by wearing jewelry, letting your smartphone go unguarded or flashing large amounts of cash. My rule for walking around in all major cities in Asia is not to display anything of substantial value. Also, beware of traffic. Getting to Travel is walkable, but depending upon your condition and time of day, you may be soaked in sweat by the time your get there. Enjoy Jakarta, AsianRain.

I sometimes come to Travel Hotel or Classic Hotel. Both have the almost the same deal. A session with one girl is Rp 350 k /60 min and a session with two girls is Rp 450 k /90 min. Sometimes, there are amazing quality girls and I had a few good single-girl session. Today, I went to Travel Hotel and had an amazing two-girl session.

I found a white and very cute face girl from Semarang. Mona (20). She is good enough tonight for a single girl session, but she said she had a friend, so I let her pick the friend. Elsa (21). Her face was so so, but I liked how she react. So, I picked both and made the session as a two-girl session.

Both has great white and smooth skins. Their boobs and hips are up and rounded. The best part is their GFE services. Sometimes, you will get a GFE service from a girl, but this time, I got an amazing service and attitude from both girls.

They call them as Mona-Lisa from Semarang. They are funny.

If you can speak Indonesian, I highly recommend Mona and Elisa!

I will be in Jakarta in end of June. I need your help for recommended bars with freelancer where I can go overnight with them? Also what is the rate of overnight in general for freelancer? I'm interested more in Chinese-Indo? Does they have a particular bar they go to it?

[QUOTE=OralnDoxx;2020408]I will be in Jakarta in end of June. I need your help for recommended bars with freelancer where I can go overnight with them? Also what is the rate of overnight in general for freelancer? I'm interested more in Chinese-Indo? Does they have a particular bar they go to it?[/QUOTE] Since this information has been posted many many times already, I am guessing you have already read the forum and you are looking for something that has not been mentioned yet.

I could be mistaken, but I think that Apollo may be the bar you are looking for. Don't forget, no short pants allowed. http://www.apolloclub-jakarta.com/

[QUOTE=AsianRain;2020188]Your risk of things like crime are negligible, but don't "tempt fate" by wearing jewelry, letting your smartphone go unguarded or flashing large amounts of cash. My rule for walking around in all major cities in Asia is not to display anything of substantial value. Also, beware of traffic. Getting to Travel is walkable, but depending upon your condition and time of day, you may be soaked in sweat by the time your get there. Enjoy Jakarta, AsianRain.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I find Jakarta to be one of the safest cities in the world as far as theft. The chances of getting robbed or pick pocketed in Jakarta anywhere other than on the busway are minimal. However, it's always prudent to avoid flashing expensive jewelry or cash anywhere in the world.

As far as walking, I don't see the sense in walking the streets in that shitty area because it's simply uncomfortable to walk there given the shit streets and unorganized traffic. I would prefer not to walk from Lokasari to Travel because it's dirt cheap to take a taxi even though it's close enough to walk. I personally would not walk anywhere in that shitty area unless the traffic was complete gridlock where walking was my only alternative. If people want to walk in Jakarta, they can go to the Epicentrium mall area. There are actually decent walkways in that area.

[QUOTE=TonkaChan;2020272]I sometimes come to Travel Hotel or Classic Hotel. Both have the almost the same deal. A session with one girl is Rp 350 k /60 min and a session with two girls is Rp 450 k /90 min. Sometimes, there are amazing quality girls and I had a few good single-girl session. Today, I went to Travel Hotel and had an amazing two-girl session.

I found a white and very cute face girl from Semarang. Mona (20). She is good enough tonight for a single girl session, but she said she had a friend, so I let her pick the friend. Elsa (21). Her face was so so, but I liked how she react. So, I picked both and made the session as a two-girl session.

Both has great white and smooth skins. Their boobs and hips are up and rounded. The best part is their GFE services. Sometimes, you will get a GFE service from a girl, but this time, I got an amazing service and attitude from both girls.

They call them as Mona-Lisa from Semarang. They are funny.

If you can speak Indonesian, I highly recommend Mona and Elisa![/QUOTE]Any photos?

[QUOTE=OralnDoxx;2020408]I will be in Jakarta in end of June. I need your help for recommended bars with freelancer where I can go overnight with them? Also what is the rate of overnight in general for freelancer? I'm interested more in Chinese-Indo? Does they have a particular bar they go to it?[/QUOTE]Lot of effort has gone in the posts in this forum. Just take a few minutes and RTFF and you will find the info you desire.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2020473]Since this information has been posted many many times already, I am guessing you have already read the forum and you are looking for something that has not been mentioned yet.

I could be mistaken, but I think that Apollo may be the bar you are looking for. Don't forget, no short pants allowed. http://www.apolloclub-jakarta.com/[/QUOTE]Thanks, yes, you are not mistaken, I went all over the forum since I'm not that new to it. But I couldn't find this piece of info, all about sex clubs and massages. I always prefer the freelancer since they are on their own and not pushed to do this. Also my experience in Asian countries if they like you they will stay all day with you without asking anything, we can go for cinema, nice food, etc.

[QUOTE=OralnDoxx;2020831]But I couldn't find this piece of info[/QUOTE]You probably don't want it. However, the other places mentioned frequently on the forum are good advice.

The good times keep rolling in Jakarta. The girls I have been meeting the past 6 nights here are all very sexy, voluptuous, and super friendly (in and out of the bedroom). I just love them. In fact if I were to compare Jakarta to BKK girls on beauty, body, and sexuality alone, I would have to rate Jakarta girls higher. I am not kidding. But there are other factors to consider like overall ambiance and ease of access going from one place to another so BKK is still numero uno. But the Jakarta girls are amazing. What I like is their naughty behavior and also the way they look. Jakarta girls seem on average to have larger, softer ta ta's, fuller lips, and softer more pliable little asses than Thai girls and they are turning me on big time. And did I mention that they are great kissers. That too.

After my first night in town with a Bats FL, I have been frequenting Malioboro Lounge, Hotel Alexis (twice), CJ's (again), and Malio Club (twice). In 2016 I thought Malioboro lounge had a much better selection of girls than Hotel Alexis 7th floor lounge. This year I think Alexis has made a strong comeback. Their line up of young Indo girls is really impressive. And last year, I had two Alexis girls in a row that would not give me a BBBJ. I am glad to report that the BBBJ is back on the Alexis Indo menu. Also although I have not partaken thus far, there are a couple of very sexy Viets there too. Expensive yes, but possibly worth it. A couple of them look real good to me and totally different body type than the young Indo girls.

Let's see, I was last at Alexis on Monday night. My Jakarta Alexis girl gave me an hour of 19 year old boy girl love. Nothing fancy, she just glued her tongue to my tongue for half the session while our four hands roamed everywhere. Then after a pretty nice BBBJ, we shagged in cowgirl and mish with our tongues still entwined and glued together. We were still spooning when the phone rang signalling my time was up. I then absently said I wished the session would not end. Clever girl, she asked if I wanted to extend, and I said yeah. Ha ha ha. So I ended up with a double session and doing her 3 times / cumming twice. Pretty amazing! I plan to see her again shortly.

But last night I made my 2nd visit this trip to Malio Club and all I can say is I love this place. To BKK guys: Malio club is like Crazy House on steroids. The selection of girls is impressive and much better than CH. Plus what goes on here in the bar between customers and girls easily matches what goes on in CH as well. The only drawback is that it is prohibitively expensive to take a girl back to your hotel although I am sure that if you get friendly with one of these girls she will gladly come see you on her day off. My double session Alexis girl is planning to come by to see me this Saturday.

Back at Malio Club, I particularly liked one really pretty dancer who later came to me and we fooled around and got friendly over a few tiny lady drinks. But before my interlude with her, I took a thin blond mamasan couch girl with large natural breasts upstairs. In one night Na (lets call her that) made my top 10 list (maybe top 5 List) of 2017 and she made me cum bareback in her pussy in less than 15 minutes. Those of you who know me, know I usually do not cum in under 30 minutes unless the girl is very sexy and has some very good moves. So naturally I want to do Na again before I leave town. What a girl!

But after I said goodbye to her, I went back to the bar to have a drink and relax. That's when the dancer I mentioned above found me. I bought her a few tiny 65,000 girlie drinks so we could fool around and get to know one another. She had a very kissable face and a very hot little body with tits that defied gravity, a flat no fat tummy, and a very nice supple ass. In other words just my Indonesian spec. 555. Don't cry for me, Thailand. So I want to do this dancer too. But since I had just done Na (the sexy blond mamasan girl), I didn't get around to asking F (the hot dancer) what her price for boom boom is.

I confess that I am still a little unsure about the pricing for Malio Dancers. I know the price for Malioboro Lounge Dancers is 1750 and have taken many of them upstairs. On a previous night at Malio Club, I was quoted a crazy price for going up to the mezzanine for a BJ with a different dancer. I was quoted (30 x65,000 rp) or 1,950,000 rp. That can't be right? So my question to the forum is: what is the price for shagging a Malio Club dancer? And why would a Malio Club dancer be more expensive than a Malioboro Dancer?

Tonight I think I want to check out King's Cross, but it is still early and I might change my mind and go back to Malio or Alexis. So many great girls, so little time.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2021432]To BKK guys: Malio club is like Crazy House on steroids. The selection of girls is impressive and much better than CH.

Tonight I think I want to check out King's Cross.[/QUOTE]No doubt about that. The girls at Malio Club are FAR FAR FAR better looking than the girls at Crazy House. It's not even close. But Crazy House is a down market crap hole venue. Malio is a 5 star venue.

Lucky you went to KC instead of CJs ladies night tonight. Tonight was the worst ladies night I have ever seen at CJs. Tons of dudes there. The ratio was almost 1 to 1 guys to girls. And the girls there were nothing to brag about. It seems the stunners stayed home tonight. Place was packed though.

Hi Natty glad to hear you're having the time of your life! Are there any nice hotels within walking distance of Malio? I love the Indo girls with the big boobs! Thanks, buddy!

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2021432]The good times keep rolling in Jakarta. I took a thin blond mamasan couch girl with large natural breasts upstairs. In one night Na (lets call her that) made my top 10 list (maybe top 5 List) of 2017 go back to Malio or Alexis. So many great girls, so little time.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=DCups;2021960]Are there any nice hotels within walking distance of Malio? [/QUOTE]Grand Mercure Jakarta Harmoni Hotel.

Jl. Hayam Wuruk No. 36 - 37, Gajah Mada, Jakarta, Indonesia, 10120.

Any views on how mongering will be effected on Wednesday, Election Day?

Will clubs like MTR be open and operating as usual?

What about freelancers?

Will their be fewer out because they may stay home with family? Or business as usual?

Cheers.

SB.

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[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2021432] Tonight I think I want to check out King's Cross, but it is still early and I might change my mind and go back to Malio or Alexis. So many great girls, so little time.[/QUOTE]No, no. Do go to Kings Cross. Your preferences seem similar to mine. I don't think you will regret taking the ride out there.

Cucumber.

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2022103]No, no. Do go to Kings Cross. Your preferences seem similar to mine. I don't think you will regret taking the ride out there.

Cucumber.[/QUOTE]I love King Cross. I think it has the most large breasted working girls in Jakarta. And the service there is way better than what you get at a place like Hotel Classic.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2020482]Any photos?[/QUOTE]Sorry, I do not ask the girls for photos. I just keep any session as my good memory.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2022136]I love King Cross. I think it has the most large breasted working girls in Jakarta. And the service there is way better than what you get at a place like Hotel Classic.[/QUOTE]My experience has also been extremely good at King's cross. I had one girl from the ground floor and it was an amazing experience. However I would also recommend guys interested in massage as well to select a girl from upstairs. Selection is less compared to the ground floor but I got a really good oil massage for 60 minutes and 30 minutes of time for a pop. Visit is highly recommended at least once.

If you happen to visit kings cross then "Sumo" is also another option within walking distance, hardly 10 minutes. In case you need more choices then you are sure to have it here. Both places served me well and I found the girls to be less sharky or mechanical and more of GFE. I was the only non local during my visit apart from other east Asian customers. I would definately visit when back in town.

The only issue is the travel time from North Jakarta where I put up. I got stuck in traffic for over an hour on way there, quite a mood killer.

I have been enjoying this forum for a few years now and wanting to visit Jakarta all that time. Now I have decided to visit in a couple of months and the information here is current, and extremely helpful. I just want to say thanks.

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;2023073]My experience has also been extremely good at King's cross. I had one girl from the ground floor and it was an amazing experience. However I would also recommend guys interested in massage as well to select a girl from upstairs. Selection is less compared to the ground floor but I got a really good oil massage for 60 minutes and 30 minutes of time for a pop. Visit is highly recommended at least once.

If you happen to visit kings cross then "Sumo" is also another option within walking distance, hardly 10 minutes. In case you need more choices then you are sure to have it here. Both places served me well and I found the girls to be less sharky or mechanical and more of GFE. I was the only non local during my visit apart from other east Asian customers. I would definately visit when back in town.

The only issue is the travel time from North Jakarta where I put up. I got stuck in traffic for over an hour on way there, quite a mood killer.[/QUOTE]That little area with King Cross, Sumo, D'Heaven and MTR2 is so good that it would make sense to get a hotel near there at Kelapa Gading and just spend your entire time at those 4 venues. They are all within walking distance of each other. I still think King Cross has the biggest tittied girls in Indonesia.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2023394]That little area with King Cross, Sumo, D'Heaven and MTR2 is so good that it would make sense to get a hotel near there at Kelapa Gading and just spend your entire time at those 4 venues. They are all within walking distance of each other. I still think King Cross has the biggest tittied girls in Indonesia.[/QUOTE]Thanks smoothy. Valuable suggestion and definately needs to be kept in mind if massage joints were the key objective.

When I visited both Kings cross and Sumo had a good selection of girls and they didn't disappoint in service either. I like mine on the slimmer side and preferably be or see cups max hence try to focus on ones meeting this criteria.

I also like going to Malioboro and Alexis at least once in my trip and nights are for discos. To avoid travelling long distances in night I base myself at kota. Good selection of clubs in the vicinity. Besides travelling to BATS and CJs is also more comfortable from here.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2023394]That little area with King Cross, Sumo, D'Heaven and MTR2 is so good that it would make sense to get a hotel near there at Kelapa Gading and just spend your entire time at those 4 venues. They are all within walking distance of each other. I still think King Cross has the biggest tittied girls in Indonesia.[/QUOTE]To Smoothy.

There are not many nice high end hotel at Kelapa Gading I look into Harris convention hotel last time is a average 3 star hotel, taxi is cheap here from Kota is only 30 min at night my customer put me at grand Mecure hotel next week a much better hotel.

Fast Eddie 48.

Jakarta on Election Day was great. Bars seemed fairly busy with plenty of girls and the bonus was almost no traffic! I am really enjoying this town. Last session of last night was with a 21 year old spinner with *huge* firm tits and a stud in her tongue who loved to suck and fukc. It went on and on. And on. Her sucking my toes, licking my ass, riding like a jockey - everything but anal. At the end before tipping she begged to see me again (a rare thing!, haha) and was joyous with a 200,000 tip. All in was USD43 for probably the best session this year. I think her number was #625 (?) can be found at LA Bar. Kinda short, but lots of enthusiasm.

Good collection of girls at the other 4 bars in that area and earlier I had one from MTR and Royal Bar. One was terrific, the other, Michelle, a brand new girl at Royal Bar, with massive breasts on a beautiful 18 year old body was horrid. First she tried to tell me that she wasn't going to remove her bra and top, just her panties. WTF!?! Finally ripped them off her but her service was terrible and she whinged the whole time with a black face. The girl has chosen the wrong job! But at 380,000 ($28) it wasn't a lot of money. BTW, I tested all 3 girls for HIV with the ORA Quick test kits and all were clean. Hopefully the rumor of this being a problem with these northern bars isn't accurate.

On the election news front, with the Islamist candidate winning I wonder what changes that might mean for mongering in Jakarta. I'd read in the JP that his deputy wants to clean up some drinking and prostitution areas in Jakarta (especially in the areas where his family owns property! As we all know, over time places change, I hope this isn't the beginning of the end for JK.

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2024835]Jakarta on Election Day was great. Bars seemed fairly busy with plenty of girls and the bonus was almost no traffic! I am really enjoying this town. Last session of last night was with a 21 year old spinner with *huge* firm tits and a stud in her tongue who loved to suck and fukc. It went on and on. And on. Her sucking my toes, licking my ass, riding like a jockey - everything but anal. At the end before tipping she begged to see me again (a rare thing!, haha) and was joyous with a 200,000 tip. All in was USD43 for probably the best session this year. I think her number was #625 (?) can be found at LA Bar. Kinda short, but lots of enthusiasm.

Good collection of girls at the other 4 bars in that area and earlier I had one from MTR and Royal Bar. One was terrific, the other, Michelle, a brand new girl at Royal Bar, with massive breasts on a beautiful 18 year old body was horrid. First she tried to tell me that she wasn't going to remove her bra and top, just her panties. WTF!?! Finally ripped them off her but her service was terrible and she whinged the whole time with a black face. The girl has chosen the wrong job! But at 380,000 ($28) it wasn't a lot of money. BTW, I tested all 3 girls for HIV with the ORA Quick test kits and all were clean. Hopefully the rumor of this being a problem with these northern bars isn't accurate.

On the election news front, with the Islamist candidate winning I wonder what changes that might mean for mongering in Jakarta. I'd read in the JP that his deputy wants to clean up some drinking and prostitution areas in Jakarta (especially in the areas where his family owns property! As we all know, over time places change, I hope this isn't the beginning of the end for JK.[/QUOTE]The general consensus I am hearing is that although there are many things to fear from the new administration, closing down the prostitution scene is likely not one of them. It is an unfortunate fact of life that in countries like Indonesia and Thailand organized prostitution such as bars and spas needs corruption to survive, and the new administration will likely be more willing to condone corruption than the outgoing one. So, if the only thing one is interested in regarding Indonesian politics is how it affects prostitution, the better candidate likely won. But these sorts of things are difficult to predict in any case particularly given the increase in Islamic fundamentalism in the country.

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2024835]On the election news front, with the Islamist candidate winning I wonder what changes that might mean for mongering in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]I don't like the them politically, but when it comes to our hobby, Baswedan will surely be better than Basuki & co. The outgoing governor has an impressive track record of actually going through with suppression of prostitution, with the highlight of bulldozing over Kalijodo, the biggest low-end local RLD with a long, long history.

The winning party (Gerindra) is not exactly Islamic, they are a coalition who was using Islamists and inciting the wave of ethnic / religious hatred to come to power. They have plenty of corrupt old-style politicians, who might incite religious fervor when it suits them, yet will still take the money to tolerate prostitution, as they did for so long.

Of course, it's impossible to make predictions, and general trends worldwide are against our hobby, but I don't think this specific city election is a setback.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;2023931]To Smoothy.

There are not many nice high end hotel at Kelapa Gading I look into Harris convention hotel last time is a average 3 star hotel, taxi is cheap here from Kota is only 30 min at night my customer put me at grand Mecure hotel next week a much better hotel.

Fast Eddie 48.[/QUOTE]If I want to spend my time at that area in Kelapa Gading with the places like Sumo, King Cross, MTR2, and D'Heaven, I would much prefer the Harris in Kelapa Gading. If you want to travel from the Mercure to Kelapa Gading during the day, it's more than 30 minutes, especially at rush hour. It's only 5 minutes from the Harris. I stayed at that Harris hotel before and it's fine, it's way more convenient than staying way over at the Mercure (which is not exactly a luxury hotel anyway) if you plan on mainly visiting the Kelapa Gading places. The Harris might not be as nice, but given the convenience, it's absolutely fine. The Harris is also right there at Mal Kelapa Gading so it's very convenient for shopping and eating. One time I booked an apartment for a month across the street from King Cross, so that is also an option. But that was over 10 years ago when MTR2 first opened so I forget the name of the place. It's easy enough to find, just go to King Cross then walk across the street and ask if they have any apartments for rent for a month. I liked MTR2 so much back then, that I went every day. Haha. Given the traffic getting to that area, I booked an apartment there even though I already had an apartment across town.

As much as I love those places at Kelapa Gading (they are my favorite places in Jakarta), I rarely go simply due to traffic.

There is a good amount of fun to be had around Kelapa Gading, from higher class places as mentioned by smoothy like KX, Sumo and MTR which are all within walking distance of each other, then to the 10 or so massage places in the general area or for the trailblazers a 40 K ojek ride to Rawa Malang to try one of Jakarta's last remaining lokalisasi's in the spirit of Kalijodo or Kramat Tunggu. Also noticed a series of karaoke bars in Tanjung Priok just near the pertamina gas terminal which is also 40 thou by ojek from Kelapa Gading. The food in this part of town is good, kong koan for a traditional style coffee, and a golf driving range to practise your swing. Lots of money changers and lots of ojeks.

Some of the massage places offer "All in" = FS, others are a little more circumspect but all is negotiable within the room. Some of the massage places are Metro, plus about two or three others in the same ruko complex, White Mutiara plus a couple of others on Jl Boulevard Raya utara although the fool of a door boy there wouldn't allow you to see the girls, just pay your money and wait hopefully. That said this place had some hot looking girls that they posted on the facebook page Spa Massage Indonesia.

Also noticed another place on jl Pegangsaan Dua slightly North of Kelapa Gading.

I think it would be quite easy to check into Harris or Santika and while away two or three days without repeating the same venue. I love the way P4 P is so much a part of daily life in Indo and Kelapa Gading has plenty of it because it is a wealthy area with lots of ethnic Chinese who are the connoissieurs of our craft in Jakarta.

Enjoy.

OS.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2027281]There is a good amount of fun to be had around Kelapa Gading, from higher class places as mentioned by smoothy like KX, Sumo and MTR which are all within walking distance of each other, then to the 10 or so massage places in the general area or for the trailblazers a 40 K ojek ride to Rawa Malang to try one of Jakarta's last remaining lokalisasi's in the spirit of Kalijodo or Kramat Tunggu. [/QUOTE]I actually think this is the first time I've seen it mentioned here. Great info! However, this would be for the adventurous. I get the impression that most of the adventurous guys stopped coming to Jakarta.

[QUOTE=Offshore Swell 2024835] ... trailblazers [could get] a 40 K ojek ride to Rawa Malang to try one of Jakarta's last remaining lokalisasi.[/QUOTE]If a Trailblazer was interested in going to the lokalisasi in Rawa Malang, where exactly should he go? All I could find by googling was a blog noting that it's near the Tpu Budi Darma graveyard, which is marked on the map below.

Would the Trailblazer find activity during the afternoon hours or must it be in the dark of the evening?

Could someone provide a google maps screenshot?

Cheers

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2016305]Hey Smoothy, or anyone else that been to Classic recent.

Did you find Octer, curios what you think of her?[/QUOTE]I went numerous times recently and never could find her. I will say however that the talent level at Hotel Classic right now is excellent.

Smoothy, Vrsabien, et al, last time I stayed at Hotel Classic was in October 2015. I realize this does not help current visitors but it was a memorable visit. I had this tiny little spinner with big tits named Keyza. 32 D (not a typo). I swear she was 80 pounds and 10 pounds of tits. So-so provider but loved fucking her. I tried like the devil to a) take pictures of her and b) get her to spend the night with me. Negative on both counts. I would have paid just about anything. I wonder if she is still there. I'm planning a trip there later next year if all goes well. Got to check out the action at King Cross, and Malio, too.

Cheers mates.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2027731]I went numerous times recently and never could find her. I will say however that the talent level at Hotel Classic right now is excellent.[/QUOTE]

I will arrive next week from US on business my customer book me at the pullman hotel formerly Nikko near Senayan will be in town for one week, someone told me stadium will reopen soon maybe after Ramadan have anyone hear anything.

Fast Eddie 48.

A couple of months ago I was in Jakarta and was tempted to visit an old haunt of mine, Kartika massage. The place is nowhere near as busy as it used to be and the woman seem older, larger and not the best looking. Anyway I chose a girl I remembered having once before about 15 years ago. She was OK. The service is still the same, wet body massage followed by "cat bath", BJ and then sex.

Cost was Rp270 K + tip. I really doubt I'll visit again however I did have some great times there in the past.

[QUOTE=Kodja;2028362]A couple of months ago I was in Jakarta and was tempted to visit an old haunt of mine, Kartika massage. The place is nowhere near as busy as it used to be and the woman seem older, larger and not the best looking. Anyway I chose a girl I remembered having once before about 15 years ago. She was OK. The service is still the same, wet body massage followed by "cat bath", BJ and then sex.

Cost was Rp270 K + tip. I really doubt I'll visit again however I did have some great times there in the past.[/QUOTE]I agree. It's kind of like Hotel Melawai 6th floor. It was good in the past, but they never renovated or even updated the girls. Haha. There are much better options in Jakarta now.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2028962]I agree. It's kind of like Hotel Melawai 6th floor. It was good in the past, but they never renovated or even updated the girls. Haha. There are much better options in Jakarta now.[/QUOTE]Agree with you too. Recently I visited Alexis. I had only ever been to the bar on the ground floor once before many years ago. This time a business associate took me upstairs and I chose a lovely local girl. She looked about 25 but I was told later she was only 19. Cost was Rp1,200 K and on exiting the room I was shown an electronic pad where I could rate the performance and select the amount of tip I was offering. The lowest tip amount was Rp200 K.

The girl was really amazing.

The other girls on offer in the lounge were quite stunning from Vietnam, China, Thailand etc however I wanted the local version when in Jakarta.

I'm sure I'll go back there again if invited.

[QUOTE=Kodja;2028362]A couple of months ago I was in Jakarta and was tempted to visit an old haunt of mine, Kartika massage. The place is nowhere near as busy as it used to be and the woman seem older, larger and not the best looking. Anyway I chose a girl I remembered having once before about 15 years ago. She was OK. The service is still the same, wet body massage followed by "cat bath", BJ and then sex.

Cost was Rp270 K + tip. I really doubt I'll visit again however I did have some great times there in the past.[/QUOTE]To Kodja.

Did price gone down last time I paid is 350 k plus tip and girl so push for tipping that was 3 yr ago, the last 3 time I went didn't see any girl that is doable mostly older girl better go to Panjay girl there are younger.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=Kodja;2028362]A couple of months ago I was in Jakarta and was tempted to visit an old haunt of mine, Kartika massage. The place is nowhere near as busy as it used to be and the woman seem older, larger and not the best looking. Anyway I chose a girl I remembered having once before about 15 years ago. She was OK. The service is still the same, wet body massage followed by "cat bath", BJ and then sex.

Cost was Rp270 K + tip. I really doubt I'll visit again however I did have some great times there in the past.[/QUOTE]**Correction*.

Cost was Rp370 K + Tip. Sorry about that!

Is it easy to pick up ladies online or in the mall to take to your room during Ramadhan? Not looking to go to a club to pick up a lady. I enjoy finding ones online or in the mall. Will be in Jakarta during Ramadhan and need to bust a nut many times.

Wanted to say thanks to the members who have put out some great info. And wanted to give back. My first time in Jakarta, so info won't be anything new to the senior members, but will hopefully give newbies an idea of what the low down is. Let me preface this by saying I wasn't here only to monger, actually got caught up doing things other than mongering. My impressions are that, there's really no centrally located monger spot, and traveling from north to south is cumbersome with all the traffic. That said, I would love to be an expat here rather than a tourist. Indo girls are just lovely, hot, and don't seem nearly as hardened as their Thai sisters.

First night went to Classic hotel, 2nd floor (terminal 2). Wasn't super busy but there was a decent selection of girls. 1 HR sessions for 365 k. Mamasans are silly aggressive and I really hate going thru middlemen,' this has made me reluctant to try the other hotels / spas, I was just about ready to put the boxing gloves on with this one mamasan in particular, and she knew it, she scurried away after giving her a strong, tense look LOL. Rooms were clean, as were the showers. Had an ok session, nothing to write home about. The girl (Renata) gave me her number to hangout off hours, but a little bit of the no-this and no-that in the room. Will not call her, but she did have a slamming body, and the BBBJ was great, all 2 minutes of it anyhow. Min charge to your bracelet is 18 k, I believe, and drinks seemed reasonably priced, but didn't order much. Pool tables cost 54 k for the hour. No foreigners at all.

Blok M was my next stop. Damn, I mean I heard not to expect much but the street really is a sht hole. I was too much of a chicken sht to go into the bars once I arrived LOL, maybe I'll go back, but at 3:30 am the place seemed dead, other than the disturbing mix of not great looking SW's, beggar children, and shady guys hanging out on the street. Not a bule in sight to validate my safety.

Jln Jaksa, which is near Sarinah mall, is the backpacker area with a few small bars, cafes, and patios. Imo, a complete waste of time as it was basically dead, and I didn't see any girl that would make me turn my head. Or I would turn my head, just in the opposite direction. Plenty of people asking if I wanted a girl though, so action was possible if I was a little more adventurous.

Friday night went to an expat bar called Masters sports bar hoping to catch some of the NBA playoffs. Bar was completely dead, save for a few older expats and cougar bar girls, left after one drink, few more expat bars in the area, but again nothing worth writing about. Headed over to BATs. Entrance was 160 k which includes a drink. At 160 k a drink, I find that quite pricey but it is a 5-star hotel. I wasn't planning on picking up a girl, but ended up having a great time. Live band members are a mix of Canadians, Americans, and Aussies, had a good chat with a few of them. Music was basically a poppy / rocky mix of top 40, in between a DJ playing some decent house and hip hop. Crowd, basically older bule expats with some Indians and Arabs in the mix and a handful of locals, who I had fun with. Girls were a real mix, some old, some young, I would say there were probably a handful of 8's and 9's (Sarah and Lucy among a few others), the bulk in the 5-7 range, and a decent amount of older pros. Girls were really friendly and I had a good time dancing and joking around with them. It's not exactly the type of place you go to chill out and have a drink, but whatever, I did, and I had fun. Didn't even ask prices (I know the mkt is 1-2 m and I'm not paying that), but picked up a few phone numbers. Lucy (or Luci, very pretty girl BTW) and I were joking around saying that I would find her an old guy and she would find me an old lady, told her that the old lady would have to pay me, got a good laugh from that one. I saw a few bules pickup girls, only to have the girls walk away at the end of the night. I suspect this was because of negotiations and it seemed like some of the girls were hardliners, which I found surprising as it wasn't a jam packed night. The hot girl (Sara), who did the hard reject to her bule, came up to me straight after, but after seeing the way she treated the dude, I was a little turned off by her. Very hot though, probably mid 20's, great rack, and olive skin tone.

Some more notes:

- Locals are friendly people, both guys and girls, no homo, but it's helpful when you are clubbing and bar hopping on your own.

- I love how you can basically smoke everywhere.

- Food is great, at a reasonable restaurant or food court you're looking at around $6-9 USD for a meal + drink, at least around central.

- For the most part, most people speak a reasonable amount of English to get by, I found this quite surprising.

- Tinder, OKcupid, WeChat are on fire. But ultimately a bit flaky. Got some girl to come out a 2 am to eat at pizza hut. Man pictures are deceiving – be careful LOL, but she was a nice girl, 22 why. O university student, and hung out with her for a while, she was extremely careful to not tell me which university she went to – but somewhere in West Jakarta.

- Bluebird taxis are the safest and cheapest option, fares start at 6 k, they also have an app which is pretty handy (when you call a taxi from the app is the min charge 20 k? Or was the driver just trying to rip me off?

- For those of you who play golf, Senayan and Royale are quite close to the city center that have reasonable green fees during weekdays. I really wanted to play a round, but Senayan was fully booked and Royale required a min of 2 players.

- Across from Sarinah Mall, where the pizza hut is located, there's a barbershop called Luxe. It's 75 k for a wash, cut, style, head and shoulder rub, and the guys there really know what they are doing – I thought that was great value, considering that type of service would cost 4 or 5x that amount back home.

- if newcomers are looking at daygame options, try searching posts by Bulai69, they are archived on the forum, but are really original brilliant ideas, I. E the mall pickups.

[QUOTE=Titleist19;2030242]
First night went to Classic hotel, 2nd floor (terminal 2). Pool tables cost 54 k for the hour. No foreigners at all.

Blok M was my next stop. Damn, I mean I heard not to expect much but the street really is a sht hole. I was too much of a chicken sht to go into the bars once I arrived LOL, maybe I'll go back, but at 3:30 am the place seemed dead, other than the disturbing mix of not great looking SW's, beggar children, and shady guys hanging out on the street. Not a bule in sight to validate my safety.[/QUOTE]I never knew the pool tables cost 54 k per hour, thanks for the info. As far as no foreigners at all, that is surprising. There are often quite a few foreigners in Hotel Classic.

At 3:30 am on a Wednesday through Saturday night, My Bar is usually packed. I am guessing you went on maybe a Sunday or Monday night. Most bars in Jakarta are closed by 3:30 any night of the week, but My Bar will be hopping. Don't let the crappy looking street there fool you, it's very safe. The problem with My Bar is that it is filled with smoke, but since you listed smoking as an advantage, you would love it.

Bulai had some great posts back in the day, he was one of my favorite posters for sure. Although I believe he did buy a car for one girl and then they broke up. Buying a car for an Indo girl is a big gamble. His recommendations to always wear designer suits and ties wherever you go to impress the women were classic. My favorite post from Bulai was when he wanted to date a sexy Sale Promotion girl at the mall and she wouldn't give him the time of day. So he offered her 1 million rupiah just to go to dinner with him, and another 1 million as extra incentive if he enjoyed her company during the dinner. LOL. No sex involved. And this was years ago when the price of a girl at BATS was 500k rather than the 1.5 to 2 million now, so 1 million was big money back then. He never did mention if he ended up having sex with her, but it's definitely an ice breaker.

[QUOTE=Titleist19;2030242]Wanted to say thanks to the members who have put out some great info. And wanted to give back. My first time in Jakarta, so info won't be anything new to the senior members, but will hopefully give newbies an idea of what the low down is. Let me preface this by saying I wasn't here only to monger, actually got caught up doing things other than mongering. My impressions are that, there's really no centrally located monger spot, and traveling from north to south is cumbersome with all the traffic. That said, I would love to be an expat here rather than a tourist. Indo girls are just lovely, hot, and don't seem nearly as hardened as their Thai sisters.

First night went to Classic hotel, 2nd floor (terminal 2). Wasn't super busy but there was a decent selection of girls. 1 HR sessions for 365 k. Mamasans are silly aggressive and I really hate going thru middlemen,' this has made me reluctant to try the other hotels / spas, I was just about ready to put the boxing gloves on with this one mamasan in particular, and she knew it, she scurried away after giving her a strong, tense look LOL. Rooms were clean, as were the showers. Had an ok session, nothing to write home about. The girl (Renata) gave me her number to hangout off hours, but a little bit of the no-this and no-that in the room. Will not call her, but she did have a slamming body, and the BBBJ was great, all 2 minutes of it anyhow. Min charge to your bracelet is 18 k, I believe, and drinks seemed reasonably priced, but didn't order much. Pool tables cost 54 k for the hour. No foreigners at all.

Blok M was my next stop. Damn, I mean I heard not to expect much but the street really is a sht hole. I was too much of a chicken sht to go into the bars once I arrived LOL, maybe I'll go back, but at 3:30 am the place seemed dead, other than the disturbing mix of not great looking SW's, beggar children, and shady guys hanging out on the street. Not a bule in sight to validate my safety.

Jln Jaksa, which is near Sarinah mall, is the backpacker area with a few small bars, cafes, and patios. Imo, a complete waste of time as it was basically dead, and I didn't see any girl that would make me turn my head. Or I would turn my head, just in the opposite direction. Plenty of people asking if I wanted a girl though, so action was possible if I was a little more adventurous.

Friday night went to an expat bar called Masters sports bar hoping to catch some of the NBA playoffs. Bar was completely dead, save for a few older expats and cougar bar girls, left after one drink, few more expat bars in the area, but again nothing worth writing about. Headed over to BATs. Entrance was 160 k which includes a drink. At 160 k a drink, I find that quite pricey but it is a 5-star hotel. I wasn't planning on picking up a girl, but ended up having a great time. Live band members are a mix of Canadians, Americans, and Aussies, had a good chat with a few of them. Music was basically a poppy / rocky mix of top 40, in between a DJ playing some decent house and hip hop. Crowd, basically older bule expats with some Indians and Arabs in the mix and a handful of locals, who I had fun with. Girls were a real mix, some old, some young, I would say there were probably a handful of 8's and 9's (Sarah and Lucy among a few others), the bulk in the 5-7 range, and a decent amount of older pros. Girls were really friendly and I had a good time dancing and joking around with them. It's not exactly the type of place you go to chill out and have a drink, but whatever, I did, and I had fun..[/QUOTE]To Titlelist.

I was there last night 5 FL min charge is 30 k most soft drink price got there at 5 p.

Only 4 customer most girls still coming in pick Mary a tall slim girl with a hot body.

Small breast not a the Cup guy, service is OK BBBJ she enjoy DATY after very pushy for tip.

I was staying at Pullman hotel they got 54 channel and a Sony 52 inch TV with NBA, NHL and Fox sport channel with mlb game going to x 2 disco later is lady night.

Fast Eddie.

I'm considering visiting soon one mid afternoon. I've never been there before. Is there anything happening there at that time of day or is all the action only happening in the evenings?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2030486]I never knew the pool tables cost 54 k per hour, thanks for the info. As far as no foreigners at all, that is surprising. There are often quite a few foreigners in Hotel Classic.

At 3:30 am on a Wednesday through Saturday night, My Bar is usually packed. I am guessing you went on maybe a Sunday or Monday night. Most bars in Jakarta are closed by 3:30 any night of the week, but My Bar will be hopping. Don't let the crappy looking street there fool you, it's very safe. The problem with My Bar is that it is filled with smoke, but since you listed smoking as an advantage, you would love it.

Bulai had some great posts back in the day, he was one of my favorite posters for sure. Although I believe he did buy a car for one girl and then they broke up. Buying a car for an Indo girl is a big gamble. His recommendations to always wear designer suits and ties wherever you go to impress the women were classic. My favorite post from Bulai was when he wanted to date a sexy Sale Promotion girl at the mall and she wouldn't give him the time of day. So he offered her 1 million rupiah just to go to dinner with him, and another 1 million as extra incentive if he enjoyed her company during the dinner. LOL. No sex involved. And this was years ago when the price of a girl at BATS was 500k rather than the 1.5 to 2 million now, so 1 million was big money back then. He never did mention if he ended up having sex with her, but it's definitely an ice breaker.[/QUOTE]Hey Smoothy,

Sorry for the late reply, my VPN has been giving me all sorts of trouble getting into ISG (cyberghost free version).

Thanks for Intel on my bar. I believe I was at blok M on a Wed night, if that helps, but like I said, I was a little fearful of the street at that hour and hopped back in a cab quickly after arriving.

The Bulai posts were fantastic. They are a good laugh with great ideas, what a soldier. Now, I'm not the one to be buying girls cars or anything, but money is all relative and amounts have different value to people. To each their own.

I'm in Bali now, so I'll be writing up a trip report soon. So far I'm having more fun in Bali than Jakarta, but like I said, Jakarta is so spread out that I barely scratched the surface.

Happy hunting.

As a side note, tinder was awesome in Jakarta, better vs Bali. I talking quality wise. These were some of matches.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;2031325]To Titlelist.

I was there last night 5 FL min charge is 30 k most soft drink price got there at 5 p.

Only 4 customer most girls still coming in pick Mary a tall slim girl with a hot body.

Small breast not a the Cup guy, service is OK BBBJ she enjoy DATY after very pushy for tip.

I was staying at Pullman hotel they got 54 channel and a Sony 52 inch TV with NBA, NHL and Fox sport channel with mlb game going to x 2 disco later is lady night.

Fast Eddie.[/QUOTE]Hey Fast Eddie,

I wish I had known about Pullman as I ended up streaming NBA and NHL playoffs.

Wed night is usually ladies nights at most places. I wanted to check out X 2 but didn't get a chance to.

[QUOTE=Kodja;2031604]I'm considering visiting soon one mid afternoon. I've never been there before. Is there anything happening there at that time of day or is all the action only happening in the evenings?

Thanks![/QUOTE]To Kodja.

Did you read my post I was there at 5 pm only a few girls most girls are still coming in.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=Titleist19;2031660]Hey Fast Eddie,

I wish I had known about Pullman as I ended up streaming NBA and NHL playoffs.

Wed night is usually ladies nights at most places. I wanted to check out X 2 but didn't get a chance to.[/QUOTE]To Titlist.

X2 is pack with hottie on lady night Not many men at midnight got a lot smile right away.

Most hottie want 1.5 mil and up for LT take a taxi to Golden crown my favorite disco mostly local.

Not many bule, I pick up a hottie at 2 pm agree on 800 k for ST she have to work in the morning very.

Nice body 2 shots but only offer CBJ.

Fast Eddie.

[QUOTE=Titleist19;2031660]Hey Fast Eddie,

I wish I had known about Pullman as I ended up streaming NBA and NHL playoffs.

Wed night is usually ladies nights at most places. I wanted to check out X 2 but didn't get a chance to.[/QUOTE]I have those channels as well at home. I still end up streaming the games because they rarely show the exact game I want to see.

There are many sports bars in Jakarta where you can watch games. If you go to Aphrodite on a night when there is a big rugby or soccer game, it's packed. I think they have over 20 tvs there. They normally just show the same games you can see on the TV channels. When it comes to American sports, ASN is the best channel because it eventually shows most of the games on tape delay. But as far as watching live, I stream the games most of the time.

The American club does show all of the games live in their restaurant, but I haven't been there in years.

[QUOTE=Kodja;2031604]I'm considering visiting soon one mid afternoon. I've never been there before. Is there anything happening there at that time of day or is all the action only happening in the evenings?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Nothing wrong with mid afternoon. That's when I go there. There will be less girls than at night, but there will be girls. The best thing is there will be less locals there filling the place with smoke at that time.

[QUOTE=Titleist19;2031659]
As a side note, tinder was awesome in Jakarta, better vs Bali. I talking quality wise. These were some of matches.[/QUOTE]You had sex with all of those matches?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2031745]You had sex with all of those matches?[/QUOTE]No sir haha. I just wanted to point out the quality of girls that I matched with on tinder. Pretty much everywhere I've been, I haven't even matched with girls of that caliber, let alone gotten replies. I'm not some Chad Pitt. I know the substance of this forum so valid question. My convos on tinder were pretty wholesome and there was no indication that any of them were P4P. Just another avenue while in Jakarta if one has game. Which is why I mentioned that being an expat here would be more enjoyable than a tourist, strategically many asked if I was living or just visiting Jakarta.

Actually I'm having second thoughts on posting those pics. Is there any way to edit my posts?

Also thanks for your notes on sports channels.

[QUOTE=Titleist19;2031888]Pretty much everywhere I've been, I haven't even matched with girls of that caliber, let alone gotten replies.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing you haven't been to Russia.

[QUOTE=Titleist19;2031888]No sir haha. I just wanted to point out the quality of girls that I matched with on tinder. Pretty much everywhere I've been, I haven't even matched with girls of that caliber, let alone gotten replies. I'm not some Chad Pitt. I know the substance of this forum so valid question. My convos on tinder were pretty wholesome and there was no indication that any of them were P4P. Just another avenue while in Jakarta if one has game. Which is why I mentioned that being an expat here would be more enjoyable than a tourist, strategically many asked if I was living or just visiting Jakarta.

Actually I'm having second thoughts on posting those pics. Is there any way to edit my posts?

Also thanks for your notes on sports channels.[/QUOTE]The fact that bule expats in JTK lead very charmed lives is a well known fact. The fact that most of them lose their Western wives if they were stupid enough to bring them is another well known fact.

Being a bule in Jakarta is a status symbol. Having a bule BF or lover is considered a status symbol. Consider it a TRUE shining example of "white male privilege".

Many highly educated women, especially of Chinese heritage are looking to hook up with a bule, if not in a relationship, then even in a "friends with benefits" situation. So long as you follow basic rules of hygiene and social etiquette, you will do well in Jakarta. Many of these women have their own money. Some have their husband's money (cheating is endemic in Indo, among both sexes).

This is probably its golden age. Though that has perhaps been eclipsed. Enjoy it while you can.

[QUOTE=Catire;2032134]Consider it a TRUE shining example of "white male privilege".[/QUOTE]No doubt about that. When I hear people say white males are privileged in the USA, I find that to be absurd. There are few places in the world where a white male is less relatively privileged than in the USA. Indonesia, on the other hand, is a place where it's absolutely an advantage to be a white guy.

I arrive to the airport after one week here and Bandung just have session at king cross a tall Viet 700 k good GFE nice BBBJ.

Arrive from my hotel pullman near mall of indo take over 40 min cost 68 k taxi still have a few HR got a very nice massage mud.

Bath HJ 2 HR take a taxi take a HR 160 k now at the airport for my flight to HK.

Fast Eddie 48.

I just spend a week in Jakarta and used both a Sugar Babe site and Tinder to compare success.

Often when travelling for business you have short notice needs and long lonely nights.

Both of the options above can be catered for using these different apps.

If your want dinner and sex sugar Babe is the best option. With a bit of time you can ensure they look like their pics.

Tinder is full of false pics but also full of options for a quick hook up. I sifted through a few tinders and took a chance on one for a massage plus plus. While the photos were not her, and I was prepared to bounce her if she wasn't up to scratch. She was in the acceptable range, 1 Juta, good massage BBBJ and covered FS. Given the traffic it's good to order in.

The sugar Babe was awesome, fun dinner with an intelligent, good looking, good English, girl. Seemed a bit shy on the consummation details. But once between the sheets, she was wild.

Rawa Malang.

So OS decided to do a bit of investigating for the team and took the trusty motorbike for a spin in search of Rawa Malang.

This location is the last of Jakarta's downmarket lokalisasi's after the closure of Kramat Tunggu and Kalijodo. Located in North East Jakarta it would serve to contrast the extremes of where we could ply our craft. There is nothing about the trip to this locale that suggests you will find romance there. Think of a dusty traffic jam packed with container trucks for almost as far as the eye can see which is Jalan Cilincing Raya running East from Tanjung Priok port. Where this road crosses the Cakung drain, you need to get off and onto the aptly named Jalan Inspeksi Cakung Drain. Now be warned. It is called a drain because it is a drain, and anybody that has taken the time to peer into a Jakarta drain will know that they are not savoury.

Follow our drain South for a kilometer or two down a shitty single lane road and a cemetery will appear on your right. For the romantics that don't like death much you may look left where a huge mountain of garbage that has been collected will rise up. Fear not! For you are now close. A few "cafe's" which is what you have come for are situated along this road but continue on untill a bridge appears on your right and a small community juts out into the green of what is one of Jakarta's major cemeteries. This is Rawa Malang. Cross the bridge by foot and enjoy your time in the alleys. Each alley is lined with "cafe's", people, cats and chickens. The cafe's which will serve you beer by ladies with whom you may enjoy more intimate relations to the rear of the premises, the cats just lay about in the sun and the chickens run around and peck at stuff. Welcome to kampung life with a twist!

OS parked the bike outside the bridge, crossed over and visited mid afternoon, the locals were surprised to see a bule but they were friendly. OS had multiple invitations to sit down and chat which he did, they are always keen for you to have a drink of which you can do anytime, It is always a good excuse to tell them you are riding a motorbike and don't want to ride after drinking if they keep pushing you to drink. If you want a lady, the mama will cheerfully go and wake one up for you although there were ladies sitting around enjoying the afternoon quiet. She assured me they were always open. OS did ask the price of a lady but was given a "Bule price" of 400 K. The regular price would be around 150 K.

Now be warned, this joint is seriously downmarket. OS, who is well known for his love of hanging out in dives could not bring himself to sample any of the fair maidens at this location. The girls all had a world weary look and the watery eyes of girls that life probably couldn't serve any harder cards than what they already held and if the outside of the place was anything to go by, the rooms would have been very grim. This isn't the hotel Alexis by any means.

A ladyboy was very keen for OS to stay and talk but OS had seen enough and excused himself from the grasping hands on the banci. Went and retrieved the motorbike and left by the back route which skirts a dirt track around the cemetery perimeter, past a few fish ponds and trucking yards and exits at Jalan Madya Kebanten. OS had, and still has, no regrets about declining the offer of one of the fair maidens of Rawa Malang.

Photo's attached of the bridge at the entry to the lokalisasi and a google map screenshot with a red pin for the location.

Enjoy.

OS.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2034245]Rawa Malang.

OS.[/QUOTE]Thanks buddy I had the luck to sample Kalijodo for a week before it finally closed down and I can attest there were quite a few tasty girls so much so I used to sample 3 girls a day, so it's a shame that the lokasi of Indonesia has fallen so low in quality.

Hello,

I am concerning Anies' comments.

Refer to this.

[URL]https://coconuts.co/jakarta/news/anies-baswedan-promises-shut-places-prostitution-jakarta-not-just-alexis/[/URL]

Do you think Jakarta night life to be ENDING?

[QUOTE=BuleBusiness;2032743]a Sugar Babe site.[/QUOTE]Which site is that? I don't know of a web site or phone app called Sugar Babe.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2034887]Which site is that? I don't know of a web site or phone app called Sugar Babe.[/QUOTE]This is the main SB site world wide, I have arranged dates. Sex from Dallas to Jakarta.

I will be staying at Kelapa Gading around start of Ramadan for one night.

I think there a few places around there to checkout and found KingsCross on google maps but not the'Heaven Hotel & Spa International.

Is D'haven still there, I assume its on a main road and nit hidden away?

Or is KingX and Sumo good enough.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2035057]I will be staying at Kelapa Gading around start of Ramadan for one night.

I think there a few places around there to checkout and found KingsCross on google maps but not the'Heaven Hotel & Spa International.

Is D'haven still there, I assume its on a main road and nit hidden away?

Or is KingX and Sumo good enough.[/QUOTE]I thought you were in love with Okta at Classic. Why cheat on her?

D'Heaven is right next door to those other places you mentioned, it is not on the main road. Nothing is on the main road in Kelapa Gading.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2035857]I thought you were in love with Okta at Classic. Why cheat on her?

D'Heaven is right next door to those other places you mentioned, it is not on the main road. Nothing is on the main road in Kelapa Gading.[/QUOTE]Okta? I might be paranoid but I reckon she been sleeping around on me with other guys. She reckons trey all "work colleagues". Yeah right!

Hey did you end seeing what she looked like and sneak a pic?

As for the'haven location. Now I am more confused. I been to KingsX and Sumo, they next to each other in the same complex but I didn't think the'haven was there as well?

I thought the'haven was north of KingsX and closer to Mall of Indonesia? So line 15 minutes away?

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2036233]Okta? I might be paranoid but I reckon she been sleeping around on me with other guys. She reckons trey all "work colleagues". Yeah right!

Hey did you end seeing what she looked like and sneak a pic?

As for the'haven location. Now I am more confused. I been to KingsX and Sumo, they next to each other in the same complex but I didn't think the'haven was there as well?

I thought the'haven was north of KingsX and closer to Mall of Indonesia? So line 15 minutes away?[/QUOTE]I never found Okta. She may be hiding in the back awaiting your return and remaining loyal to you.

All of those Kelapa Gading places are within walking distance of each other along the same side road. Delta is closest to the main road, then D'Heaven, then MTR2, then King Cross, then Sumo. If you are at any one of them you can walk to another in a few minutes.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2036397]I never found Okta. She may be hiding in the back awaiting your return and remaining loyal to you.

All of those Kelapa Gading places are within walking distance of each other along the same side road. Delta is closest to the main road, then D'Heaven, then MTR2, then King Cross, then Sumo. If you are at any one of them you can walk to another in a few minutes.[/QUOTE]Would you agree with this location for the Haven according to Google Maps?

[URL]https://www.google.ie/maps/place/D[/URL]'Heaven+Hotel+%26+Spa+Intrnasional,+Rukan+Gading+Bukit+Indah+Blok+SB+No. +5-7,+RT. 18%2 FRW. 8,+Kelapa+Gading+Barat,+Kelapa+Gading,+RT. 18%2 FRW. 8,+Klp. +Gading+Bar. ,+Klp. +Gading,+Kota+Jakarta+Utara,+Daerah+Khusus+Ibukota+Jakarta+14450,+Indonesia / at -6. 1495472,106. 8976157,15 z / data=!4 m6!1 m3!3 m2!1 s0 x2 e69 f546 e4 c936 ed:0 xb9655894 a9 f53 d6 d!2 sD'Heaven+Hotel+%26+Spa+Intrnasional,+Rukan+Gading+Bukit+Indah+Blok+SB+No. +5-7,+RT. 18%2 FRW. 8,+Kelapa+Gading+Barat,+Kelapa+Gading,+RT. 18%2 FRW. 8,+Klp. +Gading+Bar. ,+Klp. +Gading,+Kota+Jakarta+Utara,+Daerah+Khusus+Ibukota+Jakarta+14450,+Indonesia!3 m1!1 s0 x2 e69 f546 e4 c936 ed:0 xb9655894 a9 f53 d6 d.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2035857]I thought you were in love with Okta at Classic. Why cheat on her?

D'Heaven is right next door to those other places you mentioned, it is not on the main road. Nothing is on the main road in Kelapa Gading.[/QUOTE]The d'Heaven in Kelapa Gading is closed at the moment, either for renovation or just plain closed. I tried to go there past Sunday and there was construction going on with the with the name board being sideways down against the front of the venue.

[QUOTE=FlapFlap;2036672]The d'Heaven in Kelapa Gading is closed at the moment, either for renovation or just plain closed. I tried to go there past Sunday and there was construction going on with the with the name board being sideways down against the front of the venue.[/QUOTE]It needs a renovation. The one at Grand Wijaya center is way newer and nicer. But considering they basically never renovate any of these places, I wouldn't be surprised if they are closing it down.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2036787]It needs a renovation. The one at Grand Wijaya center is way newer and nicer. But considering they basically never renovate any of these places, I wouldn't be surprised if they are closing it down.[/QUOTE]Oh OK so its closed, oh well that prob a good thing, can now focus on spending more time on KingsX, Sumo and Mtr2.

Hopefully that have a good selection at the start of Ramadan?

So I'll be in Jakarta for a few days soon after Ramadan, and having RTFF'd, I'm no less confused than before I began.

I'm not interested in bars, clubs, striptease, or luxury spa experiences, and social media is of no use for a short visit. I'd like to come to a place, make a selection from a decent lineup, and have a GFE session, preferably (but not necessary) with a good massage. I'm not looking for models or spinners, just average looking, local girl-next-door types in their mid-to-late 20's.

I thought at first that Classic or Travel would be a good fit, but everything I read here indicates that service is crappy and GFE is not be expected there. Makes sense for high-volume, low-end places. MPs like Kartika and Maribaya were apparently good once, but are stocked with old hags now, if the latest reports are to be believed. Malio club seems to have more luxury and cost than I need or want. Alexis may not even be around by the time I get there, as it is apparently in the cross-hairs of the new governor.

So what does that leave? Any recommendations for mid-range places with service model similar to fishbowl-style MPs in Thailand would be greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5;2037102]So I'll be in Jakarta for a few days soon after Ramadan, and having RTFF'd, I'm no less confused than before I began.

I'm not interested in bars, clubs, striptease, or luxury spa experiences, and social media is of no use for a short visit. I'd like to come to a place, make a selection from a decent lineup, and have a GFE session, preferably (but not necessary) with a good massage. I'm not looking for models or spinners, just average looking, local girl-next-door types in their mid-to-late 20's.

I thought at first that Classic or Travel would be a good fit, but everything I read here indicates that service is crappy and GFE is not be expected there. Makes sense for high-volume, low-end places. MPs like Kartika and Maribaya were apparently good once, but are stocked with old hags now, if the latest reports are to be believed. Malio club seems to have more luxury and cost than I need or want. Alexis may not even be around by the time I get there, as it is apparently in the cross-hairs of the new governor.

So what does that leave? Any recommendations for mid-range places with service model similar to fishbowl-style MPs in Thailand would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you already know everything. You just need to pick your poison. I'm not sure what you are expecting from a "GFE", but (although possible) you won't likely find it at any place in Jakarta that provides a lineup of girls. If you want GFE, you need to go with free lancers. However, since you aren't looking for free lancers, Hotel Classic is your best choice. The spa in the basement of Hotel Classic may be your best bet for a good massage and possible GFE, but it's more expensive than the Classic bunker, Classic terminal or 5th floor of Classic.

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5;2037102]So I'll be in Jakarta for a few days soon after Ramadan, and having RTFF'd, I'm no less confused than before I began.

I'm not interested in bars, clubs, striptease, or luxury spa experiences, and social media is of no use for a short visit. I'd like to come to a place, make a selection from a decent lineup, and have a GFE session, preferably (but not necessary) with a good massage. I'm not looking for models or spinners, just average looking, local girl-next-door types in their mid-to-late 20's.

I thought at first that Classic or Travel would be a good fit, but everything I read here indicates that service is crappy and GFE is not be expected there. Makes sense for high-volume, low-end places. MPs like Kartika and Maribaya were apparently good once, but are stocked with old hags now, if the latest reports are to be believed. Malio club seems to have more luxury and cost than I need or want. Alexis may not even be around by the time I get there, as it is apparently in the cross-hairs of the new governor.

So what does that leave? Any recommendations for mid-range places with service model similar to fishbowl-style MPs in Thailand would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]I been to illegal about 3 times and got GFE each time, I think it's like a standard for the girls.

But illegal costs more than Classic, think its around 900 k for 1 hour or 1.3 m for 2 hours?

I know two girls for 2 hours is 2.4 m.

So Ramadan supposed to start next Friday and there are supposed holidays for 3 days next weekend?

Sounds not good conditions for mongering although you would think with public holidays and breaking fast at night then it should be a few places cranking?

Anyway, I just found out from Illegal that their girls won't be there and be closed for 2 days (27 May 28 May, maybe even Monday 29 May).

Then below got news that the haven shut down in Kelapa Gading.

So wondering two things, which of the following still in operation and for sure open next Ramadan Saturday and Sunday, 2 days of my 3 day trip to Jakarta!

Fm1.

Berlian Massage & Cafe.

Kartika Panti Pijat massage.

Grand Boutique Spa with Body Massage Hotel Orchardz, 6th floor.

V2.

Malibo.

Sumo.

KingsX.

Mtr2.

Classic.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2037404]

Anyway, I just found out from Illegal that their girls won't be there and be closed for 2 days (27 May 28 May, maybe even Monday 29 May).[/QUOTE]That will be the case for every place in town. All of those places on your list will be closed. Nothing sex related or alcohol related will be open anywhere.

Your only hope might be a regular massage at a normal hotel. We went for a massage at Hotel Ambhara one year when everything else was closed. It sucked, but it was better than nothing.

I recommend you get some girls phone numbers and have them come over.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2037547]That will be the case for every place in town. All of those places on your list will be closed. Nothing sex related or alcohol related will be open anywhere.

Your only hope might be a regular massage at a normal hotel. We went for a massage at Hotel Ambhara one year when everything else was closed. It sucked, but it was better than nothing.

I recommend you get some girls phone numbers and have them come over.[/QUOTE]Smoothy has forgotten more than I will ever know about Jakarta, but there is one glimmer of hope for a monger during Ramadan (or at least there was when I was there in 2015.).

Hotel Travel was business as usual during Ramadan 2015 with the one exception that one had to enter via the hotel during daylight hours and not directly into the bar on the lower level.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2037116]Sounds like you already know everything. You just need to pick your poison. I'm not sure what you are expecting from a "GFE", but (although possible) you won't likely find it at any place in Jakarta that provides a lineup of girls. If you want GFE, you need to go with free lancers. However, since you aren't looking for free lancers, Hotel Classic is your best choice. The spa in the basement of Hotel Classic may be your best bet for a good massage and possible GFE, but it's more expensive than the Classic bunker, Classic terminal or 5th floor of Classic.[/QUOTE]Thanks Smoothy and Vrsabien.

My idea of GFE, which may be different from other people's, is simply a cooperative attitude of the girls, as opposed to "don't do this, don't touch here". In my admittedly limited experience, this kind of attitude is more of a problem in Europe than in SE Asia.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2037401]I been to illegal about 3 times and got GFE each time, I think it's like a standard for the girls.

But illegal costs more than Classic, think its around 900 k for 1 hour or 1.3 m for 2 hours?

I know two girls for 2 hours is 2.4 m.[/QUOTE]Did you get the girls from Illigals club or the spa on the 4th floor?

[QUOTE=Porker;2037627]
Hotel Travel was business as usual during Ramadan 2015 with the one exception that one had to enter via the hotel during daylight hours and not directly into the bar on the lower level.[/QUOTE]This is true. But the day before Ramadan and the first day of Ramadan, everything will be closed.

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5;2037653]Thanks Smoothy and Vrsabien.

My idea of GFE, which may be different from other people's, is simply a cooperative attitude of the girls, as opposed to "don't do this, don't touch here". In my admittedly limited experience, this kind of attitude is more of a problem in Europe than in SE Asia.

Did you get the girls from Illigals club or the spa on the 4th floor?[/QUOTE]I only went to the spa where they have "freelance" girls who answer to one lady in charge.

Apparently there also a massage level but you need to negotiate price etc. With freelance girls all one price and discounts if you buy more (time or extra girl) plus freelance has standard girls and premium girls but they all looked hot to me.

If going standard look for Eggy she the best GFE I ever had, also her friend Astin not bad.

But a real wildcat was a 20 year old by name of Coco, perky breast, long hair super smooth body.

If you go let me know if those girls still there and if price same.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2037678]This is true. But the day before Ramadan and the first day of Ramadan, everything will be closed.[/QUOTE]Well I found this article online about Ramadan closures. The last paragraph is a glimmer of hope for places like Classic and FM1 but then you would think Illegal would have been fine as well?

[URL]https://en.tempo.co/read/news/2017/05/18/057876572/Jakarta-to-Ban-Entertainment-Spots-during-Ramadan[/URL]

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2037401]I been to illegal about 3 times and got GFE each time, I think it's like a standard for the girls.

But illegal costs more than Classic, think its around 900 k for 1 hour or 1.3 m for 2 hours?

I know two girls for 2 hours is 2.4 m.[/QUOTE]Is Illegals in Hayam Wuruk, close to where the Stadium night club was?

I've been past in the afternoon but never knew exactly what it was.

Is it a bar, night club, spa or all of that? Can you tell me a little more about it?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5;2037102]Alexis may not even be around by the time I get there, as it is apparently in the cross-hairs of the new governor.
.[/QUOTE]New governors come and go. This one won't be wearing the pants untill September and they don't call it the world's oldest profession for nothing. This one will be about as inept as most populist politicians are and more concerned with lining his own and his cronies pockets that upsetting some well established and well connected members of the establishment.

[QUOTE=Kodja;2037780]Is Illegals in Hayam Wuruk, close to where the Stadium night club was?

I've been past in the afternoon but never knew exactly what it was.

Is it a bar, night club, spa or all of that? Can you tell me a little more about it?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Illigals is like 5 story building. With nightclub downstairs, karaoke level 2, level 3 massage, spa level 4 and hotel level 5. I think those are the levels.

Spa open from midday to 1am.

Spa got the freelance girls and "special" theme room. You can take girl to a gym room where she dresses in gym clothes and you fuck her on a weights bench, exercise ball or yoga mats. Or you take hospital room and she puts on nurses uniform and you fuck her on a observation bed, sofa or desk. Or there is an office room where you fuck your secretary girl on a large desk.

Fun if they keep in character but hard if you girl not good at english.

I only been in normal room which is pretty big and large bed but also pretty dark. They got porn screening on the tv's if you want to get a bit more light in room.

Good showers, oxygen room, plus a pool which you can dip in with your girl before heading to room.

Overall very relaxing not pushy, very laid back and when I been there very quiet and had whole place to myself (early afternoon).

Cost is high compared to Classic / Travel but not as high as Alexi or Malibo.

I like the place plus the 4 girls I did last time were very nice and friendly. Eggy (really good GFE) Mita (nice tits) Astin (young and perky) Coco (young sweet killer body).

If you go can you ask them what their Ramadan times are?

Also I think you get discounts on girls if you stay in their hotel. I think 2 girls for 24 hours was 4 m?

Can you ask if you go.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2037879]New governors come and go. This one won't be wearing the pants untill September and they don't call it the world's oldest profession for nothing. This one will be about as inept as most populist politicians are and more concerned with lining his own and his cronies pockets that upsetting some well established and well connected members of the establishment.[/QUOTE]OK decided to divert my trip away from Jakarta and go to KUL for the Ramdan weekend instead. Should be more action at the one KL spot Beach Club then the entire city of Jakarta this weekend!

If any of you come across the Indonesian Tourism Minister, tell them he lost my tourist dollars this weekend!

[QUOTE=Kodja;2037780]Is Illegals in Hayam Wuruk, close to where the Stadium night club was?

I've been past in the afternoon but never knew exactly what it was.

Is it a bar, night club, spa or all of that? Can you tell me a little more about it?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]To Kodja.

Yes it near where Stadium use to be there are a big sign you cannot miss it, is a high end entertainment complex with KTV sauna and club girl are hotter than classic much nicer places than hotel travel.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5;2037653]Thanks Smoothy and Vrsabien.

My idea of GFE, which may be different from other people's, is simply a cooperative attitude of the girls, as opposed to "don't do this, don't touch here". In my admittedly limited experience, this kind of attitude is more of a problem in Europe than in SE Asia.

Did you get the girls from Illigals club or the spa on the 4th floor?[/QUOTE]To Global.

There are no guarantees for GFE in any places is a hit and miss but you will have better chance at high end entertainment complex than cheap low end places like hotel travel and Karitka is also on you if you act like a AH the girls don't like you and you don't tip you not going get GFE anyway.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=Vrsabien;2038257]OK decided to divert my trip away from Jakarta and go to KUL for the Ramdan weekend instead. Should be more action at the one KL spot Beach Club then the entire city of Jakarta this weekend!

If any of you come across the Indonesian Tourism Minister, tell them he lost my tourist dollars this weekend![/QUOTE]So you are switching from one Muslim country to another? Seems like a gamble. A better bet would be to go to Bangkok.

[QUOTE=FastEddie48;2038342]To Global.

There are no guarantees for GFE in any places is a hit and miss but you will have better chance at high end entertainment complex than cheap low end places like hotel travel and Karitka is also on you if you act like a AH the girls don't like you and you don't tip you not going get GFE anyway.

Fast Eddie 48.[/QUOTE]Although the women at Kartika have deteriorated in appearance over the years I have always had good service and often GFE. Sometimes it's been over the top. Lots of fake moaning etc.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2038402]So you are switching from one Muslim country to another? Seems like a gamble. A better bet would be to go to Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Yeah ticket only allowed KUL transit, BKK will be another day.

I know skyriver in kul should be open at the very least. Plus KUL got more outcall services I know about then Jakarta.

I only been Jakarta twice and never came across any "reliable" outcall establishments and don't have the time to nurture a presence on wechat or tinder. This spa / hotel easiest with limited time and resources and lack of speaking indo language.

Be great if those Jakarta places did outcall but hey that's what BKK is for!

[QUOTE=Kodja;2038474]Although the women at Kartika have deteriorated in appearance over the years I have always had good service and often GFE. Sometimes it's been over the top. Lots of fake moaning etc.[/QUOTE]Haha. I love the fake moaning when it's not over the top. However, when they go over the top, I start to do it too and go over the top as well matching their moans. Usually they will stop doing it or take it down a level, but when they continue, that's even more fun because it's so loud with both of us fake moaning. Cracks me up.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2038759]Haha. I love the fake moaning when it's not over the top. However, when they go over the top, I start to do it too and go over the top as well matching their moans. Usually they will stop doing it or take it down a level, but when they continue, that's even more fun because it's so loud with both of us fake moaning. Cracks me up.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip! You've persuaded me to visit there again just to try your method! I'll end up in stitches!

In preparation for Ramadan, I hear Blok M was raided tonight and the police made quite a few arrests. However, I was not there so I don't have any first hand information. Does anyone have any details?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2039467]In preparation for Ramadan, I hear Blok M was raided tonight and the police made quite a few arrests. However, I was not there so I don't have any first hand information. Does anyone have any details?[/QUOTE]So when they arrest they go after the girls and the owners of place or the customers?

Is it likely to stay bad after the weekend or back to normal Monday?

I will be in West Jakarta for a few nights next month attending a meeting and have been searching for a place to unwind and enjoy close to my Hotel in the area and came across be Fashion Hotel. What I have found out is it's for the locals with spa, night club and karaoke. Has anyone been there? Is it like the other Fashion hotel near Mangga Besar to the east? Maybe similar to the Classic hotel?

[QUOTE=Kodja;2040184]I will be in West Jakarta for a few nights next month attending a meeting and have been searching for a place to unwind and enjoy close to my Hotel in the area and came across B Fashion Hotel. What I have found out is it's for the locals with spa, night club and karaoke. Has anyone been there? Is it like the other Fashion hotel near Mangga Besar to the east? Maybe similar to the Classic hotel?[/QUOTE]B Fashion near Taman Anggrek? It's good. Medika is also near there and is also good.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2040449]B Fashion near Taman Anggrek? It's good. Medika is also near there and is also good.[/QUOTE]I originally posted "B" Fashion hotel but it has been edited. I read that it is a night club with spa and other ++ offerings.

Is the Medika the same type of place? My Hotel is very close to the "Medika disco" if that's the same place.

Thought this might be a good place to ask this question as this board is frequented by many experienced mongers.

I have 3-5 days in early July and am looking for a new location to explore in Indonesia or SE Asia. I familiar enough with Jakarta, Yangon, Vietnam, Manila, AC, HK, Macau, Cambodia, Bangkok, Pattaya, Singapore, Shanghai, Beijing, UB. I'm seeking a reaaonable supply of young (no-MILF), inexperienced girls. I'm NOT a big fan of bars or clubs where one whiles away an evening flirting and buying lady-drinks. I don't mind if it's a little gritty and adventurous.

Mates, any suggestions of hidden wonders?

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2040558]Thought this might be a good place to ask this question as this board is frequented by many experienced mongers.

I have 3-5 days in early July and am looking for a new location to explore in Indonesia or SE Asia. I familiar enough with Jakarta, Yangon, Vietnam, Manila, AC, HK, Macau, Cambodia, Bangkok, Pattaya, Singapore, Shanghai, Beijing, UB. I'm seeking a reaaonable supply of young (no-MILF), inexperienced girls. I'm NOT a big fan of bars or clubs where one whiles away an evening flirting and buying lady-drinks. I don't mind if it's a little gritty and adventurous.

Mates, any suggestions of hidden wonders?[/QUOTE]I guess I should add that while I've spent 10 day or more in Thailand, I don't really know the place. From my RTFF research Thailand maybe be the closest to desires. I welcome thoughts of experienced guys. Thanks.

Hi friends,

I am planning to visit Jakarta on Sunday and looking to try some erotic massage parlors and freelancers during my couple of days stay there. I will be in Central Jakarta.

I really appreciate if you can give me some contacts for good erotic massage parlors or freelance stunners, that do In-call. Let me know their rates for 1-3 hours.

Thanks in advance.

John.

[QUOTE=Kodja;2040472] My Hotel is very close to the "Medika disco" if that's the same place.[/QUOTE]That's the place. Its more like Hotel Classic than it is a disco. I've never been there in the afternoon, so not sure how it is at that time, but at night it's quite good. Very few white guys there, but there are some very nice girls and lots of them.

B Fashion is probably a nicer place and more of the same. Both have good action.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2040840]That's the place. Its more like Hotel Classic than it is a disco. I've never been there in the afternoon, so not sure how it is at that time, but at night it's quite good. Very few white guys there, but there are some very nice girls and lots of them.

B Fashion is probably a nicer place and more of the same. Both have good action.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips. I'll be there next month and try to get to both places. I'll post a report following my visit.

Headed to Jakarta for business 19 Jun. To 23 Jun., I've been before, but no experience during Ramadan. Wonder What is still running, daytime as well as night time?

Staying at Mulia (CJ's) if any one wants to hook up for a beer.

[QUOTE=Redimax;2041467]Headed to Jakarta for business 19 Jun. To 23 Jun., I've been before, but no experience during Ramadan. Wonder What is still running, daytime as well as night time?

Staying at Mulia (CJ's) if any one wants to hook up for a beer.[/QUOTE]CJs was open tonight. You should have no problems.

Anyone have any recent intel on what the ladies that frequent CJ's and BATS are asking for ST and LT company? In the past it's been around 2 million IDR for LT about 12 months ago and I wondering if that has changed.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Stykler;2041746]Anyone have any recent intel on what the ladies that frequent CJ's and BATS are asking for ST and LT company? In the past it's been around 2 million IDR for LT about 12 months ago and I wondering if that has changed.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hasn't really changed in price IMHO. I usually carry $100 US dollars in my pocket don't bother with Rupiah should I be tempted, which I rarely am these days from these tardy venues.

One interesting anecdote about these 2 venues is while CJ's allows the girl to return for sticky seconds, the BATS security are quite strict on not allowing girls back in who have earlier slipped out. This means that when the girls start flowing into Blok M it is more likely they have come from BATS. The grimy smoky bar kinda opposite TopGun that has a crap sound system, where Pentagon stood, seems to offer these same girls at knocked down prices. On my last visit to the smoky dump I found myself in a situation where I was being approached by girls who would clearly go back to my hotel without any price negotiation. It was clear from their attire they had just come down form BATS or CJ's. If I had given them 1/2 m for the taxi in the morning I don't think they would have complained.

On another note I think the stand out bar in Jakarta is Camden in Cikini, on the site of the old zoo. A well designed villa with two barmen (which is all a good pub needs). Outstanding knock over music, , such as Rag'and'Bone Man and Stormyz. The staff told me they have started up a Ladies night, and to translate their words, "it is dripping with pussy".

I've still to make the Camden Ladies night and sorry can't remember which night it is but in the meantime whenever I chat to an 7/8+ looking girl in Jakarta I insist to them they google Camden Jakarta and attend Ladies night for the free drinks and my company. At some point in the future I expect to roll into Camden drunk and meet this smorgasbord of girls, to which I may be tempted to sneak one back under my arms to my usual hangout the Hilton Doubletree Diponegoro.

[QUOTE=UsPete;2041848]
One interesting anecdote about these 2 venues is while CJ's allows the girl to return for sticky seconds, the BATS security are quite strict on not allowing girls back in who have earlier slipped out. This means that when the girls start flowing into Blok M it is more likely they have come from BATS. The grimy smoky bar kinda opposite TopGun that has a crap sound system, where Pentagon stood, seems to offer these same girls at knocked down prices. On my last visit to the smoky dump I found myself in a situation where I was being approached by girls who would clearly go back to my hotel without any price negotiation. It was clear from their attire they had just come down form BATS or CJ's. If I had given them 1/2 m for the taxi in the morning I don't think they would have complained.[/QUOTE]You are spot on about the BATS girls not being allowed to return to BATS that same night once they go with a customer. It's a shame really. I heard some of the uglier scrags at BATS complained to the manager that they weren't getting any customers because the hottest girls were taking them all. The hottest girls were making 4 or 5 short time trips upstairs each night. Thus the policy banning their return these days. I'm not sure if the scrags slipped the manager some money or what. This is why the talent level at BATS isn't what it used to be at any given time of the night. The BATS girls these days will normally head to CJs for their 2nd round. I find that most of the girls at that smokey dump (My Bar) have come from CJs but are going for their 3rd or more round. Although they will go with you without negotiating price, I wouldn't say they will accept 500. Although 1 million is more likely, 700 is pretty much the least you can give those type of girls without them complaining (they are a step above the girls who frequent My Bar every night), but I guess you could try 500.

I don't prefer My Bar because the smoke is horrible on my eyes and the quality level of the girls is poor for the most part. However, I do go there and check to see what's on offer fairly frequently after Top Gun closes. More BATS and CJs girls would go to My Bar if that bar would change just one thing. I have asked quite a few BATS and CJs girls why they don't go to My Bar after those places close. For those who have been to My Bar in the past, their response is always the same. The women's toilet in My Bar is too dirty and disgusting so they refuse to go there. I asked my favorite Top Gun girl why she doesn't go to My Bar and she said the same thing. She said she mentioned it to Hitesh a while ago (the owner of My Bar) and told him a lot of girls don't want to go there because the toilet is too dirty. She laughed when she was telling me this and said that the toilet at Top Gun is also pretty bad, but it's 100 percent cleaner than the toilet at My Bar. Supposedly he said he'd take care of it but never did anything. Damn shame. Come on Hitesh, I don't care about the men's restroom (which is also a disaster), but please give the girls a clean toilet so the better quality girls will come to My Bar.

I'm in Jakarta next weekend, and was planning on hitting up the Hotel Alexis on the Saturday night. With it being Ramadan, will there be much action happening there? Will it even be open?

Although I've visited on just a few occasions I've never fully understood what's on offer.

I know that there is a cover charge to enter the Malio bar and I have witnessed seeing some of the most loveliest young ladies fully nude dancing on the bar in the Malio during the evenings.

What I am not sure of is if these dancers are available to take upstairs to a private room and if so how much is the charge and does that include the room?

My experience there in the past was with young women upstairs, (never the dancers in bar area downstairs) I was in a large area with dancers performing on a stage often asking for ladies drinks and mamasans would bring other girls for you to choose. Last time I took a girl from a mamasan, a long time ago for about Rp800 K. All in but I'm sure the price is higher now.

Last December I was there after a long flight and went to the bar for few beers then wandered upstairs and was accosted by a free lancer (I think) who was really hot. She wanted about Rp1000 K I recall but I was so tired from the flight I had to reject the offer as there was no way I could perform. I was stuffed!

Can anyone update me on what's on offer there exactly? I am visiting there again next month with a newbie friend to the Jakarta scene, and if they are available I want to try one of the dancers from the Malio bar down stairs. What's the procedure?

[QUOTE=Kodja;2045387]Although I've visited on just a few occasions I've never fully understood what's on offer.

I know that there is a cover charge to enter the Malio bar and I have witnessed seeing some of the most loveliest young ladies fully nude dancing on the bar in the Malio during the evenings.

What I am not sure of is if these dancers are available to take upstairs to a private room and if so how much is the charge and does that include the room?

My experience there in the past was with young women upstairs, (never the dancers in bar area downstairs) I was in a large area with dancers performing on a stage often asking for ladies drinks and mamasans would bring other girls for you to choose. Last time I took a girl from a mamasan, a long time ago for about Rp800 K. All in but I'm sure the price is higher now.

Last December I was there after a long flight and went to the bar for few beers then wandered upstairs and was accosted by a free lancer (I think) who was really hot. She wanted about Rp1000 K I recall but I was so tired from the flight I had to reject the offer as there was no way I could perform. I was stuffed!

Can anyone update me on what's on offer there exactly? I am visiting there again next month with a newbie friend to the Jakarta scene, and if they are available I want to try one of the dancers from the Malio bar down stairs. What's the procedure?[/QUOTE]Well the procedure is that you have to buy first 10 drinks and than she takes you to a private area on the first floor behind a curtain there she can give you a lapdance and a nice blowjob. After this you can take her to a room and fuck her. I know its crazy that you first have to buy her 10 drinks but that's the procedure in Mailro club if you want to fuck the dancers. And most important not all dancers are available to fuck please ask them before you buy them 10 drinks. Aks this bisa ML or bisa ngewe (ML = make love) (Ngewe = fuck).

[QUOTE=Kodja;2045387]Although I've visited on just a few occasions I've never fully understood what's on offer.

I know that there is a cover charge to enter the Malio bar and I have witnessed seeing some of the most loveliest young ladies fully nude dancing on the bar in the Malio during the evenings.

What I am not sure of is if these dancers are available to take upstairs to a private room and if so how much is the charge and does that include the room?

My experience there in the past was with young women upstairs, (never the dancers in bar area downstairs) I was in a large area with dancers performing on a stage often asking for ladies drinks and mamasans would bring other girls for you to choose. Last time I took a girl from a mamasan, a long time ago for about Rp800 K. All in but I'm sure the price is higher now.

Last December I was there after a long flight and went to the bar for few beers then wandered upstairs and was accosted by a free lancer (I think) who was really hot. She wanted about Rp1000 K I recall but I was so tired from the flight I had to reject the offer as there was no way I could perform. I was stuffed!

Can anyone update me on what's on offer there exactly? I am visiting there again next month with a newbie friend to the Jakarta scene, and if they are available I want to try one of the dancers from the Malio bar down stairs. What's the procedure?[/QUOTE]The dancers will give you a BJ if you buy them a lot of lady drinks. It ends up being the most expensive BJ you could imagine so it's totally not value for money. I don't think the dancers in Malio have sex with the customers. They dance, get you to buy lady drinks, and give BJs.

But the fact that the dancers don't fuck doesn't matter because as you first walk into Malio, there are about 30 girls off to the right who are there to have sex with guys in the rooms. They don't dance, but they are as hot as the dancers in my opinion.

The DJ there is a little hotty. I'd like to do her. I am not sure if she has sex with the customers or not.

[QUOTE=Jdb82;2044993]I'm in Jakarta next weekend, and was planning on hitting up the Hotel Alexis on the Saturday night. With it being Ramadan, will there be much action happening there? Will it even be open?[/QUOTE]Yes its open bro just keep in mind that the week of idul fitri around 27 June all the locals go home for 1 or 2 weeks and Alexis is closed 1 or 2 days.

Malio Club & Malioboro Lounge is one of my favorite bordellos in Asia. On my last trip, I visited Malioboro Lounge twice and took an Indo dancer upstairs the 1st night (1,700,000 rp) and on Easter Sunday Night, which had a very light turnout of Indonesians in either club, I took a petite Chinese Import upstairs (I believe her price was 2,000,000 rp).

On the same trip, I visited Malio Club 6 times. Personally, I thought Malio had hotter girls than Malioboro this time around, but that can change on a dime, so it's always worth checking them both out. This trip I had the pleasure of two Malio Club harem girls (or couch girls if you prefer i.e. non-dancers) who are under management of a mamasan. I liked my 2nd Malio harem girl so much that I did her three times including my last night in Jakarta. That should tell you something about her looks, sexual abilities, and what I thought of her. 555. Both of my harem girls were 900,000 rp.

I also had the pleasure of one of the Malio dancers, a very pretty girl with a smoking hot little body, and one of the tightest pussies I ever had the pleasure of licking open. In fact, even after an extended cunnilingus, her wet, juicy pussy was still so tight, that we both were unable to commence vaginal penetration in Cowgirl. And we really tried. LOL, but I confidently fliped her over onto her back and slowly, gently entered her in the mishionary position. Then after 20 minutes of shagging that way, I rolled us back over into cowgirl and she finished us off with a great ride.

I really liked this girl too and I took her back upstairs a few nights later for round 2. Her price was 2,000,000 rp and she was worth it. We regularly Line chat at least once a week and I want to see her again on my next visit, I hope that answers the question of whether Malio Club dancers shag customers. The short answer is they do. But the dancers will first ask a customer if he wants to go up the 2nd floor for a semi private BJ at an outragous price. The night I met her, my sexy little dancer offerd me a double BJ with her girlfriend for I believe it was 1,700,000rp. The music was very loud, so I can't be absolutely sure of the price asked although I am sure both girls wanted to suck me off at the same time. Anyway, since I consider a BJ foreplay, it was never going to happen. I want it all or nothing.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2045527]
The DJ there is a little hotty. I'd like to do her. I am not sure if she has sex with the customers or not.[/QUOTE]YES, that DJ is a little hotty! My thoughts exactly. And she is good at what she does, but I doubt she has sex with regular customers. I never got that vibe from her. But, oh so sexy. You can bet she is doing it with somebody or somebody plural.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2045589]
I also had the pleasure of one of the Malio dancers Her price was 2,000,000 rp .[/QUOTE]Interesting. They told me they don't have sex (at least the couple I asked). For sure the Malioboro side dancers do, but I had not seen anyone take a Malio dancer to the rooms.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2045589]Malio Club & Malioboro Lounge is one of my favorite bordellos in Asia. On my last trip, I visited Malioboro Lounge twice and took an Indo dancer upstairs the 1st night (1,700,000 rp) and on Easter Sunday Night, which had a very light turnout of Indonesians in either club, I took a petite Chinese Import upstairs (I believe her price was 2,000,000 rp).

On the same trip, I visited Malio Club 6 times. Personally, I thought Malio had hotter girls than Malioboro this time around, but that can change on a dime, so it's always worth checking them both out. This trip I had the pleasure of two Malio Club harem girls (or couch girls if you prefer i.e. non-dancers) who are under management of a mamasan. I liked my 2nd Malio harem girl so much that I did her three times including my last night in Jakarta. That should tell you something about her looks, sexual abilities, and what I thought of her. 555. Both of my harem girls were 900,000 rp.

I also had the pleasure of one of the Malio dancers, a very pretty girl with a smoking hot little body, and one of the tightest pussies I ever had the pleasure of licking open. In fact, even after an extended cunnilingus, her wet, juicy pussy was still so tight, that we both were unable to commence vaginal penetration in Cowgirl. And we really tried. LOL, but I confidently fliped her over onto her back and slowly, gently entered her in the mishionary position..[/QUOTE]There are dancers in the Malio bar that strip and dance on the bar and there are also dancers up stairs in another lounge where the mamasans operate. Are you saying that both dancers upstairs and downstairs are available? The only ones I have had experience with were the mamasan girls or a free lancer or two upstairs.

Down stairs at the bar I've often had women come up to me flirting and asking for ladies drinks. Are these the actual dancers on a break or are they just there for the drinks. Can you negotiate sex with them?

[QUOTE=Kodja;2045759]There are dancers in the Malio bar that strip and dance on the bar and there are also dancers up stairs in another lounge where the mamasans operate. Are you saying that both dancers upstairs and downstairs are available? The only ones I have had experience with were the mamasan girls or a free lancer or two upstairs.

Down stairs at the bar I've often had women come up to me flirting and asking for ladies drinks. Are these the actual dancers on a break or are they just there for the drinks. Can you negotiate sex with them?[/QUOTE]Kodja,

I am not sure what other upstairs lounge you are referring too. Over on the Malioboro side of the building there is a bar to the left as you walk off the elevators and Malioboro Lounge is to your right. Is this the bar? I have never spent any time in there, only a short look / see from time to time before I go over to Malioboro Lounge. I forget the name of this bar, but there are girls there too, not harem girls, and I am pretty sure they go with customers. Is there another bar I don't know about?

Back downstairs in Malio Club; I do believe all the girls that come around to "flirt", that's as good a word for it as any, are dancers on their rotation off the stage, just like Go Go girls in Crazy House, BKK. The difference here at Malio is the take-out price is exorbitantly high, so it is very rarely done. I heard a few years ago it was 3,000,000 rp to take a girl out of the Club. It is probably higher now.

I have never seen a harem girl (mamasan couch girl) float around the bar like these dancers do. The harem girls stay put on their couches unless told to line up for a potential customer. My 2nd Malio couch girl, the one I liked and did 3 times, would sit with me and have a drink, before we went up stairs, always with her mamasan's approval. My harem girl did not want to fool around too much in the bar ie get wild like the dancers do with drink buying customers. My couch girl was much more reserved in the bar, but in the room, that was a completely different story.

I can't add much more than that. It is all in my original post except I left out most of the intimate stuff. My Malio dancer was / is a very sexy girl. I first saw her dancing on the stage and she immediately caught my eye. I liked her body and the way she looked more than any of the other girls dancing beside her. And she turned out to be a very nice, sweet little girl too .... with one of the tightest pussy's I have ever had. Ha Ha. Before we went up to the room, I was charged 2,000,000 rp. The waiter put it on my tab and I had to sign for it. Afterwards, while we were still in the room, I gave her a generous tip.

Amazingly, as in what are the odds of this happening twice in the span of two weeks, I had the pleasure of two tight little pussy, Indonesian girls on this trip. I found the 2nd one at Kings Cross, ground floor lounge, right hand side and like with my Malio Dancer, we could not initiate sexual congress in the cowgirl position even after long time DATY. But I was rock hard and it was not going away, so no problem getting inside her after I flipped her over into the missionary position, and established a 1/4 of an inch penetration, just very slow, gentle progress until I was all the way in. We then had quite a vigorous sesson in multiple positions that went overtime. This Kings Cross girl was under papasan management and was one of the 12 to 15 girls he called over to my table after I told him I was interested in a "small, thin" girl. Her price was 600,000 rp compared to the 900,000 rp I was paying for my Malio Club harem girls. I only went to Kings Cross one time. It was my first visit and I had a good time. BTW, they have dancers at Kings Cross too and they "flirt" with customers the same way the dancers "flirt" with customers at Malioboro and Malio. I will post my Kings Cross report soon.

What a bargain on Badoo! Deflowering a Sulawesi girl for only $2500 (or maybe more). Give your bid!

[QUOTE=Shuga;2046592]What a bargain on Badoo! Deflowering a Sulawesi girl for only $2500 (or maybe more). Give your bid![/QUOTE]Just ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Stykler;2041746]Anyone have any recent intel on what the ladies that frequent CJ's and BATS are asking for ST and LT company? In the past it's been around 2 million IDR for LT about 12 months ago and I wondering if that has changed.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yes, asking price is still 2 M and many girls will accept 1.5 K depending upon the time. As girls cannot come back if they get one client, so better not to risk and take girl of your choice rather than deep negotiations. I took girl at price of 1 Million around 2 am and was happy to stay till 10 am. Shangri la is totally girl friendly and once I took two girls at a time and nobody asked any question. Girls walk in by 9-10 pm.

[QUOTE=Melman111;2046659]Yes, asking price is still 2 M and many girls will accept 1.5 K depending upon the time. As girls cannot come back if they get one client, so better not to risk and take girl of your choice rather than deep negotiations. I took girl at price of 1 Million around 2 am and was happy to stay till 10 am. Shangri la is totally girl friendly and once I took two girls at a time and nobody asked any question. Girls walk in by 9-10 pm.[/QUOTE]I took a girl from Shangri-La for 1 million recently as well. She wasn't one of the best looking girls there though for sure, and she ended up being a crap shag. She was very willing to stay until 10 am, but threw her out. I guess you get what you pay for.

[QUOTE=Shuga;2046592]What a bargain on Badoo! Deflowering a Sulawesi girl for only $2500 (or maybe more). Give your bid![/QUOTE]I doubt anybody is going to pay for a 27 year old's virginity. The market is for under 20 year olds virginity, and I believe it's pretty much only Asians who are paying that. I think the price is quite a bit more than 2. 5 million now for that though because it was 2 million back in the early 2000's. I haven't asked any girls the price lately so I am not sure of the current price. I've met quite a few Indo girls who, in their youth, were sold to mamasans by their parents and those mamasans immediately recouped their investment by selling the girl's virginity mainly either in Batam or Jakarta to Asians. The mamasans then of course put the girls to work in brothels for years collecting far more than their original investment.

I will be in Jakarta next month. Any numbers for in-call would be really appreciated. Staying at the Grand Hyatt.

Please PM me some numbers.

[QUOTE=DubyaMan88;2047602]I will be in Jakarta next month. Any numbers for in-call would be really appreciated. Staying at the Grand Hyatt.

Please PM me some numbers.[/QUOTE]Hello. I think you are confusing the role of your fellow members here.

Many of them are like you, probably educated, some are in high powered jobs and may be quite busy, it is unlikely anybody is going to take the time to send you any telephone numbers for in call.

They do say however, that for the new generation it is not about what knowledge you have but knowing where to find that knowledge. What you are asking for can be achieved with a very quick internet search. That way you burn up your own time and not ours. Feel free to come back with some questions after you have done that.

Hope that helps.

OS.

[QUOTE=DubyaMan88;2047602]I will be in Jakarta next month. Any numbers for in-call would be really appreciated. Staying at the Grand Hyatt.

Please PM me some numbers.[/QUOTE]Dubya- as noted by OS, you seem to think other members are minions is to gather information and forward to you to make your life easier. Please a little better balance between asking and giving would help your cause.

Below are some of your most recent posts:

1. Can you send me some contacts in Delhi / Gurgaon please? Also, what are the rates?

2. Can you please send me name of SP or connect me to the SP? I will be in Chennai from 18th to 22nd July.

3. Looks nice bro. Can you share details?

4. Looking for some contacts in Chennai. Prefer a lady in her 30's. Please PM me details.

5. Would love to get some information on getting mature (30 - 40 yrs) women in Barcelona. I will be there in a few weeks. Also approximate costs.

6. Any one has had Kazakh / Uzbek / Russian girls in Gurgaon? Please PM me numbers along with costs.

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2049691]Dubya- as noted by OS, you seem to think other members are minions is to gather information and forward to you to make your life easier. Please a little better balance between asking and giving would help your cause.

Below are some of your most recent posts:

1. Can you send me some contacts in Delhi / Gurgaon please? Also, what are the rates?

2. Can you please send me name of SP or connect me to the SP? I will be in Chennai from 18th to 22nd July.

3. Looks nice bro. Can you share details?

4. Looking for some contacts in Chennai. Prefer a lady in her 30's. Please PM me details.

5. Would love to get some information on getting mature (30 - 40 yrs) women in Barcelona. I will be there in a few weeks. Also approximate costs.

6. Any one has had Kazakh / Uzbek / Russian girls in Gurgaon? Please PM me numbers along with costs.[/QUOTE]Wicked Roger, (prolific poster on Philippines and Dubai boards) calls these people the Manager class of people. Always asking but never doing. Seems like the Jakarta board now has attracted a Manager class of monger. LOL.

Was in Jakarta last week so went exploring in Kota, along Mangga Besar. While many of the clubs and massage parlours in the area were closed for Ramadan, I was pleased to see that the holy month had not cut into the prolific street scene around Lokasari Plaza. There were about 30 girls out on the street between the gate and the plaza, with the most congregating around the KFC.

I negotiated 400 K for ST back at my hotel room (stayed at the Sparks, not recommended) - the right price was 300 K, but couldn't find a girl I wanted who was willing to take that. Payment on the street to the pimp.

Unfortunately, back at the room, turned out the 21 year old spinner I recruited had a child, but much worse, a commercial attitude. Took the promise of a significant tip after good performance (300 K) to get GFE service. Once we got the commercial terms over, a good session- BBBJ, multiple positions, etc.

Released her back to the streets when I walked out to look for some late night food found some excellent street BBQ, then heading back to my hotel around 1 am when a pimp called me over to his van with 7 girls in the back. I didn't see any I liked, to which he responded, no problem, had me hop on the back of my bike and drove me down some backstreets in the direction of Hotel Travel. I thought he was taking me to the brothel that used to be behind Hotel Travel, but then he stopped on a street corner where there were 5 vans / SUVs parked, all full of girls!

I looked through them all, picked out a likely looking specimen, and paid 350 K to the pimp (again, payment in advance, and I would guess the right price is 300 K).

He took me and the girl back to my hotel, and this 19 year old recruit was much more accommodating. Kissing, BBBJ, multiple positions, let me tie her up- pretty much full on GFE, if your girlfriend was a hot, thin Indonesian girl. I ended up tipping her 200 K for an excellent session, and fell sound asleep.

Anyone else run into these vans in Kota, or are they a new thing, or maybe even just a Ramadan thing, when many of the normal venues close down? Anyway, keep your eyes open- you never know what you will find on the streets!

[QUOTE=FriendlyPlanet;2051413]Was in Jakarta last week so went exploring in Kota, along Mangga Besar. While many of the clubs and massage parlours in the area were closed for Ramadan, I was pleased to see that the holy month had not cut into the prolific street scene around Lokasari Plaza. There were about 30 girls out on the street between the gate and the plaza, with the most congregating around the KFC.

I negotiated 400 K for ST back at my hotel room (stayed at the Sparks, not recommended) - the right price was 300 K, but couldn't find a girl I wanted who was willing to take that. Payment on the street to the pimp.

Unfortunately, back at the room, turned out the 21 year old spinner I recruited had a child, but much worse, a commercial attitude. Took the promise of a significant tip after good performance (300 K) to get GFE service. Once we got the commercial terms over, a good session- BBBJ, multiple positions, etc.

Released her back to the streets when I walked out to look for some late night food found some excellent street BBQ, then heading back to my hotel around 1 am when a pimp called me over to his van with 7 girls in the back. I didn't see any I liked, to which he responded, no problem, had me hop on the back of my bike and drove me down some backstreets in the direction of Hotel Travel. I thought he was taking me to the brothel that used to be behind Hotel Travel, but then he stopped on a street corner where there were 5 vans / SUVs parked, all full of girls!

I looked through them all, picked out a likely looking specimen, and paid 350 K to the pimp (again, payment in advance, and I would guess the right price is 300 K).

He took me and the girl back to my hotel, and this 19 year old recruit was much more accommodating. Kissing, BBBJ, multiple positions, let me tie her up- pretty much full on GFE, if your girlfriend was a hot, thin Indonesian girl. I ended up tipping her 200 K for an excellent session, and fell sound asleep.

Anyone else run into these vans in Kota, or are they a new thing, or maybe even just a Ramadan thing, when many of the normal venues close down? Anyway, keep your eyes open- you never know what you will find on the streets![/QUOTE]I don't understand you. You know what the normal price is and you can't get it? 300 k is already too much and half is going to the mamasan or the pimp but anyway it s 300 k max period.

And you paid in advance and you wonder that the service sucks? Jesus rule number one everywhere in the world for FL never pay in advance!

And of course you fall for this old trick that for more money she will deliver good service pfff She saw you coming my friend.

And if I take a girl I make sure she has no baby then no surprise.

If she lied since I didn't pay in advance then she s out with no money that s how you keep them with good service and not by splashing money like idiot.

This kind of behaviour really pisses me off.

If I have a girl I like I don't tip I take her number and I say I will have her back without the pimp less money for me more for her and they understand that.

I guess you were lucky with the van girl but these are street FLs they should be 150 max like it used to be in kalijodo before some asshole ordered to destroy it.

[QUOTE=FriendlyPlanet;2051413]Was in Jakarta last week so went exploring in Kota, along Mangga Besar. While many of the clubs and massage parlours in the area were closed for Ramadan, I was pleased to see that the holy month had not cut into the prolific street scene around Lokasari Plaza. There were about 30 girls out on the street between the gate and the plaza, with the most congregating around the KFC.

I negotiated 400 K for ST back at my hotel room (stayed at the Sparks, not recommended) - the right price was 300 K, but couldn't find a girl I wanted who was willing to take that. Payment on the street to the pimp.

Unfortunately, back at the room, turned out the 21 year old spinner I recruited had a child, but much worse, a commercial attitude. Took the promise of a significant tip after good performance (300 K) to get GFE service. Once we got the commercial terms over, a good session- BBBJ, multiple positions, etc.

Released her back to the streets when I walked out to look for some late night food found some excellent street BBQ, then heading back to my hotel around 1 am when a pimp called me over to his van with 7 girls in the back. I didn't see any I liked, to which he responded, no problem, had me hop on the back of my bike and drove me down some backstreets in the direction of Hotel Travel. I thought he was taking me to the brothel that used to be behind Hotel Travel, but then he stopped on a street corner where there were 5 vans / SUVs parked, all full of girls!

I looked through them all, picked out a likely looking specimen, and paid 350 K to the pimp (again, payment in advance, and I would guess the right price is 300 K).

He took me and the girl back to my hotel, and this 19 year old recruit was much more accommodating. Kissing, BBBJ, multiple positions, let me tie her up- pretty much full on GFE, if your girlfriend was a hot, thin Indonesian girl. I ended up tipping her 200 K for an excellent session, and fell sound asleep.

Anyone else run into these vans in Kota, or are they a new thing, or maybe even just a Ramadan thing, when many of the normal venues close down? Anyway, keep your eyes open- you never know what you will find on the streets![/QUOTE]Nice report!, the vans can be found at Tamansari which is where you were pretty much. Well done.

Does anybody know if Classic / Travel / King's Cross will be open during Idulfitri days (starting on Saturday 24th, tomorrow and onwards). I expect there will be fewer girls than usual (going to see families etc), but will the places be working at all? Is there a way to find out without going all the way there?

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2051514]Nice report!, the vans can be found at Tamansari which is where you were pretty much. Well done.[/QUOTE]I guess I just want to restate the question of whether these vans are around only during Ramadan, or is this is an ongoing enterprise. Will be in Jakarta next weekend in the vicinity.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2051549]Does anybody know if Classic / Travel / King's Cross will be open during Idulfitri days (starting on Saturday 24th, tomorrow and onwards). I expect there will be fewer girls than usual (going to see families etc), but will the places be working at all? Is there a way to find out without going all the way there?[/QUOTE]Nothing will be open on Idul Fitri. But they will open a few days later.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2051549]Does anybody know if Classic / Travel / King's Cross will be open during Idulfitri days (starting on Saturday 24th, tomorrow and onwards). I expect there will be fewer girls than usual (going to see families etc), but will the places be working at all? Is there a way to find out without going all the way there?[/QUOTE]98% are shut. FM Hotel in Grogol usually stays open. It's maybe worth phoning up on the day and asking if they have any Christian girls working.

I went on IdulFitri there two years ago as I was holed-up in Pullman Central Park. The papasan was very apologetic and said "sorry we only have Nasrani girls". I muttered to him while shaking my head in disconcert I was willing to forgive him on this occasion. Pretty decent line-up but prices were inflated as these girls were "freelance" probably meaning not from their in-house cages.

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;2051744]I guess I just want to restate the question of whether these vans are around only during Ramadan, or is this is an ongoing enterprise. Will be in Jakarta next weekend in the vicinity.[/QUOTE]They are there all the time, not just during Ramadan.

[QUOTE=UsPete;2051853]98% are shut. FM Hotel in Grogol usually stays open. It's maybe worth phoning up on the day and asking if they have any Christian girls working.

I went on IdulFitri there two years ago as I was holed-up in Pullman Central Park. The papasan was very apologetic and said "sorry we only have Nasrani girls". I muttered to him while shaking my head in disconcert I was willing to forgive him on this occasion. Pretty decent line-up but prices were inflated as these girls were "freelance" probably meaning not from their in-house cages.[/QUOTE]That's good information. Although in the last 20 years, I can honestly say that I don't think I have ever been with even one Christian Indonesian prostitute working in a brothel. I didn't know they existed in those type of places other than imports. I have been with quite a few Christian Indonesian non working girls and some free lance around town, but I have yet to meet one working in a brothel like at FM hotel. I guess they may exist, but the quantity would be very low indeed. The fact that the place is open at all on Idul Fitri is shocking. The owner of FM Hotel must have very high Government contacts to be able to pull that off. I can't imagine much that would be considered more of a sin in Islamic culture than having a *****house open on Idul Fitri day. Personally, I wouldn't go there on Idul Fitri even if it was open. Not because it's against my religion, but I would imagine the chances of being thrown out of the country if caught in a raid on that day would be somewhat high.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2052015]<snip> in the last 20 years, I can honestly say that I don't think I have ever been with even one Christian Indonesian prostitute working in a brothel. I didn't know they existed in those type of places other than imports.[/QUOTE]I had a sesssion with a Christian Indonesian girl in 2016 at Malioboro Lounge of all places. She was one of the topless dancers and a friend of another girl I knew there. She was an attractive slender spinner and she was very sexy when she danced, so I let her steal me away from her friend. (I tipped the friend to make sure eveything was ok). The only weird thing about her was she had a rather large, green background, ornate, Medieval looking gold cross tatoo on her thigh which is why I asked her what her religion was. She showed no self-consciousness while dancing on stage with the cross, but she was camera shy, so I only have a couple of head shots, but she was a very nice little girl. I did not see her at Malioboro this year or I probably would have repeated with her.

Then back in 2015, I had a LT with a petite CJ's FL. I liked her so much that in the morning I invited her down to the buffet breakfast at the Marriott where she amazed me by piling up a plate full of bacon; HIGH! ... And eating every slice of bacon on her plate and nothing else except coffee. That was her breakfast - bacon & coffee. LOL. So I asked her about her heritage and she told me her mother was Belgian and that she was Christian. So she was of mixed race, but born and raised an Indonesian girl in Jakarta, Bahasa her native language, and she looked Indonesian. I had 3 bareback rounds with her that night. She was very good in bed and a lot of fun in the bar, but sadly, I never saw her again. That one I kind of miss and I still keep my eye out for her whenever I visit CJ's. You never know when they might resurface.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2052015]That's good information. Although in the last 20 years, I can honestly say that I don't think I have ever been with even one Christian Indonesian prostitute working in a brothel. I didn't know they existed in those type of places other than imports. I have been with quite a few Christian Indonesian non working girls and some free lance around town, but I have yet to meet one working in a brothel like at FM hotel. I guess they may exist, but the quantity would be very low indeed. The fact that the place is open at all on Idul Fitri is shocking. The owner of FM Hotel must have very high Government contacts to be able to pull that off. I can't imagine much that would be considered more of a sin in Islamic culture than having a *****house open on Idul Fitri day. Personally, I wouldn't go there on Idul Fitri even if it was open. Not because it's against my religion, but I would imagine the chances of being thrown out of the country if caught in a raid on that day would be somewhat high.[/QUOTE]There is one girl. Amoy No 100 in Kimochi Mabes who is a Christian and is a great B2 B masseur with good licking skills.

[QUOTE=AmitGautam;2052153]There is one girl. Amoy No 100 in Kimochi Mabes who is a Christian and is a great B2 B masseur with good licking skills.[/QUOTE]Give her a call then and see if she will come to your hotel. She won't be working on Idul Fitri and since she's Christian, she also won't be celebrating it.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2052015]That's good information. Although in the last 20 years, I can honestly say that I don't think I have ever been with even one Christian Indonesian prostitute working in a brothel. I didn't know they existed in those type of places other than imports. I have been with quite a few Christian Indonesian non working girls and some free lance around town, but I have yet to meet one working in a brothel like at FM hotel. I guess they may exist, but the quantity would be very low indeed. The fact that the place is open at all on Idul Fitri is shocking. The owner of FM Hotel must have very high Government contacts to be able to pull that off. I can't imagine much that would be considered more of a sin in Islamic culture than having a *****house open on Idul Fitri day. Personally, I wouldn't go there on Idul Fitri even if it was open. Not because it's against my religion, but I would imagine the chances of being thrown out of the country if caught in a raid on that day would be somewhat high.[/QUOTE]Hmm, this Christian aspect is something I think requires more research. Next time a pushy mamasan comes up to me asking what type of girl I want, I'll politely ask for one with a clitoris to see if there's any Christians in the house. It's getting a bit boring asking for a girl with a limp from Pekalongan.

Years ago I visited some of the harem / brothels kept by the ruling class in Aceh and Padang and all the girls were Christian. I think it was a religious snobbery thing, the girls were imported from Nias but on reflection they were probably slaves rather than working girls. I'm too young to have visited the most famous brothel in Jakarta, if not South-East Asia, called Macao Po. I'm told one of floors was all Christian but I guess the majority were local mixed-Portuguese and Chinese converts.

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;2051744]I guess I just want to restate the question of whether these vans are around only during Ramadan, or is this is an ongoing enterprise. Will be in Jakarta next weekend in the vicinity.[/QUOTE]I have seen those vans many times on Gajah Mada near the McD's and around Sarinah, usually around 4-6 girls in the back. Never tried as I don't go for this pay first system.

I have run into a guy on Gajah Mada that works as a pimp, tried once and the girl he brought to the hotel was very attractive but not GF at all. I guess it's hit and miss with the street girls, paid 500 k for ST.

That's why I go to the bar (usually My Bar) as I can get a fell for the vibe before I commit for the night.

I have a 1 year lease for a very nice apartment in HCMC. Roughly $1000 per month. I'm an American that works remotely. PM me if you want to do a condo / apt swap and swap info about women (1-2 months in Aug / Sep)

Actually, I only have GF type intros in HCMC, BUT also a lot of good "black-box" ideas and places if you want to trade, even if home-swap is not in the offering. I'm late 40 ish, considered very attractive by SEA women, and I only say that to give you an idea of who I can introduce. Most of the women are in early to mid 30's, but if you're younger, some are in 20's. I also have freelence girls numbers who met my approval. So, maybe I could contact them and inro you if you do same for me in Jakarta.

I'm looking to spend 1-2 months starting late July or Aug 1. I've been to Jakarta 2 times, but both were over 10 years ago.

I've been a member here for over 12 years, so that says something.

WL.

The question I have is, does Idul Fitri mean the end of Ramadan and any accompanying nonsense? That is, do the disruptions to normal vices end now and do the girls get back to normal? Or are things toned down for awhile? Someone mentioned this is when the fresh new girls migrate to the city.

Also, does these Muslim holidays have any impact on Bali? I understand Bali is mostly Hindu, but the working girls are said to be mostly girls from Java, Muslim?

I just started a new job last week and I don't see myself mongering for a year. But, when that year is up I want to be sitting on a plane to Asia! And yes I know that Ramadan fluctuates and is not fixed to a hard date, but that is what Google is for. Looks like it is over on June 16 next year. Your advice please.

[QUOTE=PrisonBreak;2051420]I don't understand you. You know what the normal price is and you can't get it? 300 k is already too much and half is going to the mamasan or the pimp but anyway it s 300 k max period.

And you paid in advance and you wonder that the service sucks? Jesus rule number one everywhere in the world for FL never pay in advance!

And of course you fall for this old trick that for more money she will deliver good service pfff She saw you coming my friend.

And if I take a girl I make sure she has no baby then no surprise.

If she lied since I didn't pay in advance then she s out with no money that s how you keep them with good service and not by splashing money like idiot.

This kind of behaviour really pisses me off.

If I have a girl I like I don't tip I take her number and I say I will have her back without the pimp less money for me more for her and they understand that.

I guess you were lucky with the van girl but these are street FLs they should be 150 max like it used to be in kalijodo before some asshole ordered to destroy it.[/QUOTE]I guess we each have our own things that bother us- you worry about people overpaying, I get irritated at newbie jerks, who post basically no useful information, and jump on other people's posts.

I've been coming to Jakarta way before you entered the hobby 3 years ago. In fact, I was one of the first to post about NPK in HCMC, 8-10 years ago- too bad you benefited from my posting.

Thanks for reminding me why I don't post any useful information, or even read the boards much anymore.

Not-so-friendly.

[QUOTE=FriendlyPlanet;2053067]I guess we each have our own things that bother us- you worry about people overpaying, I get irritated at newbie jerks, who post basically no useful information, and jump on other people's posts.

I've been coming to Jakarta way before you entered the hobby 3 years ago. In fact, I was one of the first to post about NPK in HCMC, 8-10 years ago- too bad you benefited from my posting.

Thanks for reminding me why I don't post any useful information, or even read the boards much anymore.

Not-so-friendly.[/QUOTE]Didn't know I entered the hobby 3 years ago. Should actually be more than 15 years ago my friend.

And FYI like other BM I keep the good places for myself because once they are online they are gone forever.

And BTW I didn't need you to find NPK I found it from a local friend.

Unlike you when I go to a local place I make sure I know the price before I go there and I always pay after.

And I always get it unlike you in Singapore.

My money my rules. And yes cheaper is better. For everybody.

Have a nice day.

[QUOTE=PrisonBreak;2051420]I don't understand you. You know what the normal price is and you can't get it? 300 k is already too much and half is going to the mamasan or the pimp but anyway it s 300 k max.

If she lied since I didn't pay in advance then she s out with no money that s how you keep them with good service and not by splashing money like idiot.

This kind of behaviour really pisses me off.

[/QUOTE]PB: What a dick you must be! You got to be about 22 years old and full of yourself. Have a little respect for those who take the time to post and have been doing so for many years before you could even get a little stiffy let alone put it anywhere but your own hand. Comments like yours add nothing.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2052987]The question I have is, does Idul Fitri mean the end of Ramadan and any accompanying nonsense? That is, do the disruptions to normal vices end now and do the girls get back to normal? Or are things toned down for awhile? Someone mentioned this is when the fresh new girls migrate to the city.

Also, does these Muslim holidays have any impact on Bali? I understand Bali is mostly Hindu, but the working girls are said to be mostly girls from Java, Muslim?

I just started a new job last week and I don't see myself mongering for a year. But, when that year is up I want to be sitting on a plane to Asia! And yes I know that Ramadan fluctuates and is not fixed to a hard date, but that is what Google is for. Looks like it is over on June 16 next year. Your advice please.[/QUOTE]You should allow a week after Idul Fitri and things are back at full speed. The traffic will confirm that things are back to normal.

One thing I have noticed in the last few days in Jakarta post Idul Fitri is lots of squashed rats. I can't work out if it's just because there's less cars covering them up or they get less cautious when the traffic eases. OS.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2052987]The question I have is, does Idul Fitri mean the end of Ramadan and any accompanying nonsense? That is, do the disruptions to normal vices end now and do the girls get back to normal? Or are things toned down for awhile? Someone mentioned this is when the fresh new girls migrate to the city.
.[/QUOTE]I have been in touch with a handful of girls over the Ramadan period. Most left about 1-2 weeks following the start to go home to ancestral villages to reunite with grandparents and extended family. Of the six I am thinking of two will return this week and four will come back around the 10th of July. So about 2 weeks after Labaran / Idul Fitri. Not sure if that's typical but there are 6 data points for you. My guess is that most of the clubs will be open this weekend, but I'm sure smoothy will give us the local report if he is in the city.

I will say having those phone numbers did insure that I had sufficient female company on my two mid-Ramadan visits. I am amazed at how often I can be introduced / set-up with a new girl by an existing girl. I think they pimp each other just a little bit. Or, its more of a referral fee. Now I always ask if they have friend that I could meet. Often they are girls who are new to the business and just need a little money for some parttime work.

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2053495]I have been in touch with a handful of girls over the Ramadan period. Most left about 1-2 weeks following the start to go home to ancestral villages to reunite with grandparents and extended family. Of the six I am thinking of two will return this week and four will come back around the 10th of July. So about 2 weeks after Labaran / Idul Fitri. Not sure if that's typical but there are 6 data points for you. My guess is that most of the clubs will be open this weekend, but I'm sure smoothy will give us the local report if he is in the city.

I will say having those phone numbers did insure that I had sufficient female company on my two mid-Ramadan visits. I am amazed at how often I can be introduced / set-up with a new girl by an existing girl. I think they pimp each other just a little bit. Or, its more of a referral fee. Now I always ask if they have friend that I could meet. Often they are girls who are new to the business and just need a little money for some parttime work.[/QUOTE]I met a girl on a Sunday in Hong Kong who was one tof the hundreds if not thousands of OFWs who makes herself available to men on her day off. For a very modest amount of money, we spend the entire day into the early night naked together. We stopped for a very late lunch. Long story short, she invited me to Jakarta in July for the month. She promised she would get me lots of girls (I did not ask for this). I don't think she intended to make money, because she did not ask me for payment at the end of our day (although I gave her the agreed upon amount anyway) and she continues to whatsapp me about once a week since then with new photos and inquiries into my health.

I simply think she wants a real BF or even husband, and the way to a man's heart is through his penis, not his stomach!

It is a shame I have no reason to go to Jakarta other than her!

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2053495]I'm sure smoothy will give us the local report if he is in the city.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, I am not in Jakarta.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2023394]That little area with King Cross, Sumo, D'Heaven and MTR2 is so good that it would make sense to get a hotel near there at Kelapa Gading and just spend your entire time at those 4 venues. They are all within walking distance of each other. I still think King Cross has the biggest tittied girls in Indonesia.[/QUOTE]I'll be doing my "remote work" in Jakarta soon. Is this area accessible to office buildings? Does it have much to offer, other than girls, for those living for 2 months. Thanks.

[QUOTE=WanderLuster;2054273]I'll be doing my "remote work" in Jakarta soon. Is this area accessible to office buildings? Does it have much to offer, other than girls, for those living for 2 months. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what to make of that question. Is it near office buildings? I guess that depends on which office building you want to be near. There are lots of tall office buildings and big shopping malls near, but I think that's going to be the case regardless of where you stay in Jakarta.

Is it my favorite area to hang out? No. Although it has offices and malls in the area, it's not a particularly nice area of town. My favorite areas for hanging out are the more upscale parts of Jakarta, but those areas are nowhere near the sex spots in town. It depends what you want from your 2 months in town, easy access to the brothels or a nice environment. They are mutually exclusive in Jakarta. The areas with the brothels are all pretty much dirty and crappy relative to the areas where you will not find brothels. However, for fairly cheap sex with hot young girls on a daily basis, it's a hard area to beat Kelapa Gading. The other area to hang out for sex would be near Hotel Classic. That is more centrally located. Traffic is a major concern in Jakarta as it takes a long time to get anywhere during the day. If you plan to hang out almost exclusively at Kelapa Gading, then I would for sure stay near there. If you plan to get around to other parts of town often, KG is a bit far away so I would stay elsewhere.

[QUOTE=WanderLuster;2054273]I'll be doing my "remote work" in Jakarta soon. Is this area accessible to office buildings? Does it have much to offer, other than girls, for those living for 2 months. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Which office buildings? If you're working remotely (not sure why that's in quotes), get a good internet wherever you stay. Due to traffic, any sort of commute is a huge hassle in Jakarta, unless you're right next to where you need to go, as in, walking distance, under 500 m -- sidewalks tend to be atrocious too, and it's messy when it rains.

As for much to offer, this is a girl forum. Jakarta is not high up the list of the world's most livable city, but it's huge, and has all that big cities do (even if it's a bit hard to access) -- a vibrant music scene, some decent food and so on -- all depends on what you're interested in.

Why Jakarta and not Bali, though? The only thing I'd recommend Jakarta for over Bali is great accessibility of regular girls (non-pros). Plenty of pros too (and cheap), but unlike Pattaya, for instance, the scene isn't quite as relaxed or enjoyable for browsing.

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2049691]Dubya- as noted by OS, you seem to think other members are minions is to gather information and forward to you to make your life easier. Please a little better balance between asking and giving would help your cause.

Below are some of your most recent posts:

1. Can you send me some contacts in Delhi / Gurgaon please? Also, what are the rates?

2. Can you please send me name of SP or connect me to the SP? I will be in Chennai from 18th to 22nd July.

3. Looks nice bro. Can you share details?

4. Looking for some contacts in Chennai. Prefer a lady in her 30's. Please PM me details.

5. Would love to get some information on getting mature (30 - 40 yrs) women in Barcelona. I will be there in a few weeks. Also approximate costs.

6. Any one has had Kazakh / Uzbek / Russian girls in Gurgaon? Please PM me numbers along with costs.[/QUOTE]I have shared numbers with dozens of members in Dubai, Kazakhastan, Bangkok and Yangon but the mistake I think I made was that these through PM and my questions were in the open forum making me seem only like a taker and not a giver. Certainly do not want to take any members for granted and apologies if I have offended anyone's sensibilities.

[QUOTE=DubyaMan88;2054674]I have shared numbers with dozens of members in Dubai, Kazakhastan, Bangkok and Yangon but the mistake I think I made was that these through PM and my questions were in the open forum making me seem only like a taker and not a giver. [/QUOTE]Yeah, with a grand total of 18 public posts, that's very believable -- NOT.

Why would anyone even bother asking you for advice over PM with such a thin public posting history?

Is this open in the afternoon for any type of action or is in only in the evenings?

Any info on this place would be great as I've never been before and looking at trying a few different places the week after next when I'm in town.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Kodja;2055590]Is this open in the afternoon for any type of action or is in only in the evenings?

Any info on this place would be great as I've never been before and looking at trying a few different places the week after next when I'm in town.

Thanks![/QUOTE]To Kodja.

I been there once last year around 3 pm still early not many girl available price is same level as Hotel travel and Classic, I didn't pick a girl quality is not great is 20 min taxi east of Manga Besar area w traffic, there are many place like this all over Jakarta don't think I will go back I have friend that got service there told me is nothing special about the service just another cheap brothel.

Fast Eddie 48.

There are some nice girls at FM1, but I have never tried it in the afternoon. Medika is close to there and I prefer Medika.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2056281]There are some nice girls at FM1, but I have never tried it in the afternoon. Medika is close to there and I prefer Medika.[/QUOTE]I haven't been to either before so I'll post a report after my visit next week.

I have more spare time in the late afternoons fro this type of action than evenings that's why I was asking.

Can you offer any other tips about either place please?

So here's an odd one. Recently a mamasan that I've come to know suggested I meet a couple of new girls to see if I was interested. The first was of no interest: chubby, short, bad face. The second one was tallish, had a pretty face, decent breasts, and a 7 month pregnant belly. She is 21. Strangely, I found her immediately sexy. This is nothing that I've ever had a fantasy about, in fact the idea is usually not appealing at all. But something about her smile, her willingness, and the rareness of the moment, tipped me over the edge.

I'll not say a lot, except that it was terrific session with more positions that I'd imagined were possible and that the girl seemed to enjoy as well. I gave her an extra large tip for the schooling fund (all in 1. 0 million). Says her long-time boyfriend promised to marry her but then got cold feet and disappeared in month 3. Anyway, that's another box ticked, even if I didn't know that was a box that needed ticking.

If a senior member wants details, please PM me. I think the woman would be grateful for a few more *gentlemen* to contribute to the cause. Limited time offer.

Well not breaking, but since no one else has posted these two items here, I will. An era is ending on Jl. Faltehan and Jl. Melawai.

Hotel Melawai Sixth Floor has been closed, says Eva, a buxom worker from the sixth floor. This is not for Ramadhan, she says. This is forever. They're bankrupt, according to Eva. Although how one could go bankrupt in that business is mind-boggling. (There are buyers. There are sellers. There is an active market. But those rent-seeking middlemen!

However, don't despair. In a What's App chat with me, Eva said that she and a few of the girls will be checking into the hotel and inviting their regulars in. Indonesia bisa!

Separately, the back room at nearby the's Place has been propelled into the contemporary capitalist era!

After renovation, the room now sports many spacious booths, all with curtains to be pulled shut for privacy. Another innovation is that the room is now secured by an access card. You pay Rp 250,000 per entry, on top of whatever you negotiate with your woman of the moment. So the pants-around-your-ankles-in-plain-sight experience as well as the ugly-chick-security-service shakedown have been replaced by rent seeking from the management of the's Place. In a nod to customer loyalty program, you may get your own card with unlimited access for an annual fee of Rp 4.5 juta.

Again, meddlesome middlemen! Don't they know that there are apps for this, including my soon to be launched BloJek. (Now seeking first-round venture funding. The idea is simple: Women with smartphones on motorcycles receiving messages. Uh, maybe you get the idea).

Finally, a terrorist attacked and killed a police officer at the mosque near Faletehan last week. If these guys ever get their act together, we're in trouble.

Seriously, what does man have to do to get by in Jakarta? I mean, if every other low-rent hotel nearby Blok M didn't have shady spas offering massages, even during Ramadan, all this news would be depressing.

I think something is screwy with my browser or my autocorrect. I cannot type the fourth letter of the alphabet without it being transformed into the word "the".

I mention a bar called "the place" below. I mean "Dee's Place", except spelled without the "ee".

Whoops.

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Will be in Jakarta for work from July 11th to 16th (first visit).

Have only mongered in KL before, so I'm very excited for this one.

Will be staying at Yello Hotel Harmoni (fantastic reviews on [URL]Agoda.com[/URL]).

Planning to hit as many places I can, to sniff out places that are the "best fit" for me.

I'm relatively young, and have little experience with lady drinks, so will try to focus on spas. Some places I'm definitely dropping by:

Classic Terminal.

- just very curious about this place!

Emporium Spa.

- intrigued after reading a fantastic FR on this thread.

- keen to try out the VIP girls there.

- as place is run by the Alexis group, I wonder how the quality compares between the two places.

Illegals Spa.

- heard the club here is dead, but the spa facilities seem nice.

- plus, the cost of a normal girl, about 800 k seems reasonable compared to other more extravagant spas.

- they have special theme girls (bases on official Instagram posts), about 1. 0-1. 2 mn. Quite curious about Thai too!

Malioboro.

- just across my hotel.

- quite scared to go to Malio Club, as my inexperience means I will probably be swamped by lady drinks. Maybe I will quickly pick one of the couch girls and get the hell out of there.

- heard Malioboro Spa is NOT value for money? Will have to see the girls' quality for myself.

King Cross.

- bit far, but heard it is incredibly value for money. 800 k for locals.

- I also hear the dancers can be had for 1.5 mn ish. Keen to find out.

Sumo Spa.

- 800 k for 2 girls. ? Need to experience this myself.

- also, the dancers here can be taken for around 1.0 mn, I gather. Will be good value, if quality is there.

Still unsure about Alexis and The Pool. I'm sure the standard over there is great, but would it be so much above the other places to justify the significant extra outlay? Will probably stick with Empo, if quality can be found there, since its cheaper and closer.

Also iffy on V2 Spa. Very little info to be found online, but extremely close to my hotel. Maybe I will bite the bullet and explore it myself.

I will report back on my experiences after each day. Hopefully, they will prove useful to someone haha.

A. if anyone has helpful tips, comments, please do share!

Be. Oh, and as mentioned above, I am completely new to the dance club / strip show scene. So how does 'taking a dancer' work? If I am quoted 1.5 mn for a dancer, in addition to the tips I pay, do I need to buy additional lady drinks (on top of the 1.5 m) can I just March into a dance club, pick a dancer I like, and boom, that's it?

If so, I'll also considering places like Tease (1.8 mn), Malio Spa (1.7 m, 2.0 m) and Malio Club (3.3 m).

[QUOTE=OmBule;2056447]Hotel Melawai Sixth Floor has been closed, says Eva, This is forever. [/QUOTE]This is depressing news. I spent 6 months working in Indonesia in 2014.

Every time I got to Jakarta I visited this place, sometimes twice a day.

I loved this place.

I am planning to return for a few weeks later this year and now learn my go-to place is gone. So sad.

Of course I also frequented CJ's, BATS & Blok M at night, so let's hope they remain.

I'm hoping to get some advice from the esteemed members on an upcoming trip to Jakarta.

I'm planning a golf trip with a group of about 10 guys. *One thing I'm grappling with is whether to stay in central or north Jakarta. *I've stayed in central Jakarta many times and done BATS and*CJ's as have some of the group. *I'm thinking I'd like to try Alexis, Malio and maybe some clubs and I heard there are some good ones in north Jakarta. *I'd also like to avoid the sausage fest at CJ's, and with 10 guys, we'd only be adding to it.

Do any of you guys have any thoughts on staying strictly in north Jakarta and the options. *I've read a lot of posts on Alexis and Malio and it sounds like you could make an entire night at either of those places, albeit and expensive one. *.

[QUOTE=JXXXL;2059361]I'm hoping to get some advice from the esteemed members on an upcoming trip to Jakarta.

I'm planning a golf trip with a group of about 10 guys. *One thing I'm grappling with is whether to stay in central or north Jakarta. *I've stayed in central Jakarta many times and done BATS and*CJ's as have some of the group. *I'm thinking I'd like to try Alexis, Malio and maybe some clubs and I heard there are some good ones in north Jakarta. *I'd also like to avoid the sausage fest at CJ's, and with 10 guys, we'd only be adding to it.

Do any of you guys have any thoughts on staying strictly in north Jakarta and the options. *I've read a lot of posts on Alexis and Malio and it sounds like you could make an entire night at either of those places, albeit and expensive one. *.[/QUOTE]To Jxxxl.

I also like to stay at central Jakarta around Hyatt hotel area good central locations and many Mall for shopping during the day, you can always take a taxi to the north at taxi is cheap here there are not too many 5 star hotel in the north.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=OmBule;2056447]Well not breaking, but since no one else has posted these two items here, I will. An era is ending on Jl. Faltehan and Jl. Melawai.

Hotel Melawai Sixth Floor has been closed, says Eva, a buxom worker from the sixth floor. This is not for Ramadhan, she says. This is forever. They're bankrupt, according to Eva. Although how one could go bankrupt in that business is mind-boggling. (There are buyers. There are sellers. There is an active market. But those rent-seeking middlemen!

However, don't despair. In a What's App chat with me, Eva said that she and a few of the girls will be checking into the hotel and inviting their regulars in. Indonesia bisa!

Separately, the back room at nearby the's Place has been propelled into the contemporary capitalist era!

After renovation, the room now sports many spacious booths, all with curtains to be pulled shut for privacy. Another innovation is that the room is now secured by an access card. You pay Rp 250,000 per entry, on top of whatever you negotiate with your woman of the moment. So the pants-around-your-ankles-in-plain-sight experience as well as the ugly-chick-security-service shakedown have been replaced by rent seeking from the management of the's Place. In a nod to customer loyalty program, you may get your own card with unlimited access for an annual fee of Rp 4.5 juta.

Again, meddlesome middlemen! Don't they know that there are apps for this, including my soon to be launched BloJek. (Now seeking first-round venture funding. The idea is simple: Women with smartphones on motorcycles receiving messages. Uh, maybe you get the idea).

Finally, a terrorist attacked and killed a police officer at the mosque near Faletehan last week. If these guys ever get their act together, we're in trouble.

Seriously, what does man have to do to get by in Jakarta? I mean, if every other low-rent hotel nearby Blok M didn't have shady spas offering massages, even during Ramadan, all this news would be depressing.[/QUOTE]Great report! Thanks for the info. It's truly sad that Maribaya has closed. I had some great times there over the years.

I find it hard to believe that anyone will be paying 250 k just to enter the VIP room at DS place, but I am curious what they've done. Unfortunately, I am guessing the girls are the same they have had for the past 10 years or so.

[QUOTE=KoreanAjooma;2057416]
Will be staying at Yello Hotel Harmoni

Planning to hit as many places I can, to sniff out places that are the "best fit" for me.

Classic Terminal.

Emporium Spa.

Illegals Spa.

Malioboro.

King Cross.

Sumo Spa.

Still unsure about Alexis and The Pool. I'm sure the standard over there is great, but would it be so much above the other places to justify the significant extra outlay? Will probably stick with Empo, if quality can be found there, since its cheaper and closer.

Also iffy on V2 Spa. Very little info to be found online, but extremely close to my hotel. Maybe I will bite the bullet and explore it myself.

If so, I'll also considering places like Tease (1.8 mn), Malio Spa (1.7 m, 2.0 m) and Malio Club (3.3 m).[/QUOTE]I'm a bit curious why you are staying at a $30 a night hotel when you are willing to pay for the most expensive girls in town. Although new and clean, those rooms at Yello are tiny. Harris Hotel Harmoni is brand new and has a 60 square meter suite that is only $100 a night. I guess it depends how often you will be in the room. Considering your aggressive itinerary at various brothels, you likely won't be in the room much, so you don't have to worry much about being in a small hotel room. Personally, I like to bring girls to my room as well and find it nice to have a bigger room.

In my opinion, the quality of girls and facilities at Alexis is far superior to Emporivm pretty much every time. The last time I visited Emporivm (I rarely go there), I didn't see any girls I liked and left. But like anywhere, the staff rotates and you can find gems anyplace.

V2 has some good talent most times. It's worth checking out since you are so close.

Illegals normally has some excellent talent in the karaoke, but is expensive.

Although I love King Cross and Sumo, Since you are only in town less than a week and wanting to try a plethora of venues, I suggest you skip Kelapa Gading and stick to the places you are close to. I never understand the need to visit every place in town in one visit. Savor the experience.

Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2054451]Which office buildings? If you're working remotely (not sure why that's in quotes), get a good internet wherever you stay. Due to traffic, any sort of commute is a huge hassle in Jakarta, unless you're right next to where you need to go, as in, walking distance, under 500 m -- sidewalks tend to be atrocious too, and it's messy when it rains..[/QUOTE]Been there, in Jarkata, done that. Yea, not great.

[QUOTE] As for much to offer, this is a girl forum. Jakarta is not high up the list of the world's most livable city, but it's huge, and has all that big cities do (even if it's a bit hard to access) -- a vibrant music scene, some decent food and so on -- all depends on what you're interested in. [/QUOTE]Also been there done that. Somehow thought it might be a bit under the radar vs. BKK for example. I had a lot of great times prior to being there for the overthrow of Sukarto. Glad to have been there when he fell, though. Have not been back since then, though.

[QUOTE]Why Jakarta and not Bali, though? The only thing I'd recommend Jakarta for over Bali is great accessibility of regular girls (non-pros). Plenty of pros too (and cheap), but unlike Pattaya, for instance, the scene isn't quite as relaxed or enjoyable for browsing.[/QUOTE]Interesting question! 15 years ago Bali was pretty useless for P2 P. Kuta had some skanky working girl houses, and no one on hear was talking about FL there. But, I don't think Bali has much to offer vs. Jakarta or elsewhere in SEA? I'm not sure.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2059848]Great report! Thanks for the info. It's truly sad that Maribaya has closed. I had some great times there over the years.

I find it hard to believe that anyone will be paying 250 k just to enter the VIP room at DS place, but I am curious what they've done. Unfortunately, I am guessing the girls are the same they have had for the past 10 years or so.[/QUOTE]I'm in Jakarta at the moment and curiously ISG is not blocked. Good. I went to Maribaya this week and the doorman told me it is closed for renovation. I would be surprised if it was bankrupt, since it belongs to the hotel. The doorman showed me to the alternative location, across the road where I could choose from a number of girls. I recognised none of them, but selected one just to try her out. The room was even seedier than Maribaya, with only a mattress on the floor. Service from the girl was mediocre. I'm trying to connect some of the girls I know and invite them to my hotel.

Regards,

Ko.

[QUOTE=SeaTraveler;2058431]This is depressing news. I spent 6 months working in Indonesia in 2014.

Every time I got to Jakarta I visited this place, sometimes twice a day.

I loved this place.

I am planning to return for a few weeks later this year and now learn my go-to place is gone. So sad.

Of course I also frequented CJ's, BATS & Blok M at night, so let's hope they remain.[/QUOTE]The doorman of Hotel Melawai told me they are closed for "renovasi", so not indefinitely. He could not tell me how long it would be.

Regards,

Ko.

[QUOTE=JXXXL;2059361]I'm hoping to get some advice from the esteemed members on an upcoming trip to Jakarta.

Do any of you guys have any thoughts on staying strictly in north Jakarta and the options. *I've read a lot of posts on Alexis and Malio and it sounds like you could make an entire night at either of those places, albeit and expensive one. *.[/QUOTE]I like the venues in North Jakarta. That's really the only place I go. I have looked all over the North looking for a decent hotel, probably stayed in 6 different places, but really haven't found anything I liked. The Grand Mercure Harmoni is the best located for what you are after but I found it to be a pretty weak 4 star experience with bad breakfasts. The Pullman at Central Park is better but much further away, however a quick trip to and from the airport. You could always stay at Travel Hotel which is attached to a decent club.

If you have the money I'd stay near Plaza Indonesia at the Pullman, the Grand Hyatt, or one of the several other hotels. Lots of great restaurants and other things in that area. Make your peace with the traffic by getting a good data plan and spring for a couple of Silver Bird Innova vans that will have you all riding comfortably from the better hotels to the good north Jakarta venues. The place that is a bicth to get to are clubs around Kings Cross and Sumo. But definitely worth a trip, IMO, just go late or early to avoid peak traffic.

Sounds like a good time. Enjoy!

Well I was once again back in Jakarta for my holiday and relaxation. Fortunately this time around I didn't have any issues with the Immigration, but I did carry my passport with me at all times, even if I was going to KFC / McD's. Ok so my report focuses on three different methods / operations while I was in Jakarta.

As usual I stayed most of the times at the Novotel Gajah Mada and this time I decided to try the old guy and his "ladies", he is always outside the Wendy's near the LTC Glodok mall. He quoted 500 k for ST, so I decided to try it out and as well it would save me the WOS as I am now quite well know at this hotel. So he brought two girls for me to choose from one was cheery and friendly and the other seems as though she was forced to be there, so I choose the friendly girl. All was ok at first light chit-chat etc but time to service she refused to shower. Now for me that a huge turnoff especially not knowing where she just had been. So I told her to leave, no shower no action. Lesson learned, I sent the old man a text but he never replied, so NEVER again.

Second I decided to try the services on WeChat found a few listings and pictures and connected with a small beauty to come to the hotel. Ha, learned another lesson pictures on the Websites are not as the person who may show up. This girl showed up and wouldn't remove her hand from the peep hole for me to se who was outside the door. I should have realized that something was not right but eventually I opened the door and much to my surprise she was a middle age overweight masseur. I would have settled for the massage but that stunt with the peep hole really got me furious and the fact that she didn't look as the picture on the web I told her to leave. At first she wouldn't so I called security but she changed her mind and decided to leave before security showed, gave her taxi fare but she threw it back at me. Oh well next time send the girl in the photo.

Next my adventures in Blok M I am a usual at My Bar so most of the girls and staff know me my sight. But some of the girls that I met were not of quality that I am used to finding at My Bar. Did meet some new girls who at first quoted me 1. 5 M for ST one actually quoted me 2. 5 M for ST and proceeded to tell me that is the standard rate in Blok M.

Of course I knew better when I am quoted such high prices I just can't be bothered as I know one of my usual girl (s) will show up eventually.

Did hop over to Top Gun a few times a lot more availability there but never really hit on any girl in TG, unless I can dance with you and feel your vibe I won't take a girl blindly, as it may turn out to be a bad decision. When I can dance and speak with them up close I can assess their movements.

Well that's it for my July adventure in Jakarta, will return in December.

[QUOTE=Bkk212;2061465]
Second I decided to try the services on WeChat found a few listings and pictures and connected with a small beauty to come to the hotel. Ha, learned another lesson pictures on the Websites are not as the person who may show up. This girl showed up and wouldn't remove her hand from the peep hole for me to see who was outside the door. I should have realized that something was not right but eventually I opened the door and much to my surprise she was a middle age overweight masseur. I would have settled for the massage but that stunt with the peep hole really got me furious and the fact that she didn't look as the picture on the web I told her to leave. At first she wouldn't so I called security but she changed her mind and decided to leave before security showed, gave her taxi fare but she threw it back at me. Oh well next time send the girl in the photo.[/QUOTE]I can't imagine a much worse experience. I've tried wechat many times and only once had an experience nearly that bad. I had some old fat scrag massage me once and she was falling asleep and burping. I threw her out and refused to pay. I don't mind an old fat scrag massaging me sometimes if I just want a good massage. They normally actually do give the best massages. This one was just horrible (although it was 4am, so I can understand her being tired). However, if I had been in your situation, I would have turned your woman away as well up front. Her blocking that peep hole is crap. I'm lucky in that I live in a place where I can hear people coming before they get near my door. I would have been watching her far before she could have covered the peep hole.

If you only look at the profile photo of the wechat user, that means nothing. They just post any photo at all to hook you. If I am hoping for sex or even want to ensure it won't be some scrag (it's nice to have a young cutie to look at), I normally ask them to send me a photo of the actual girl. They will send photos pretty much every time if you ask. If the photo is a glamour shot, I will likely disregard it. If it's a normal photo not photoshopped, it's usually fairly close to what the girl looks like.

Here's a story of a wechat massage chick I had come over recently. I haven't had much luck with the girls on wechat who promote themselves as call girls, but the ones who say there is "no sex" seem to surprise at times. And sex is usually on the table even though they say it isn't at first.

It's around 3 am and I want just a massage. I open Wechat and the normal hundred or so massage places popped to the screen. I send messages to 5 different massage places. The first two that respond are not interesting because one provides heavily edited glamour photos and the other doesn't have photos to send (a clear sign it will be an old fat woman coming). There is one where the photo in their profile is somewhat normal (of course it was not the girl who visited me, but that's ok. Those are just pimps running those profiles, not the girls themselves.). They respond that the price is 250 k for massage only (no sex). I ask to see photos of the girls and I ask for a girl with big tits and young if possible. They send three photos and two of the three look ok. These are simply photos of some normally dressed girls with hardly any makeup sitting on a concrete floor. Nothing stunning, but I pick the one who looks to have the biggest tits. I offer 200 k for that girl to come and give me a massage and they agree. I am tired and not really keen for any action other than massage, but figure if the girl has big tits and young, that might change that.

The girl shows up about a half hour later. It's definitely the girl from the photo. She is a shy girl wearing sloppy jeans and a red t-shirt. It's obvious that she's packing some nice tits under that shirt. She's about 5 foot 5, so fairly tall for an indo girl, and fairly slim other than the tits. She's obviously fairly fresh out of the village because of the way she carries herself. No makeup at all, but she isn't bad looking even without makeup and has a great body, very shag worthy.

We go to the bedroom and I strip naked. She gets on the bed fully clothed and starts massaging me. I start out watching the indonesian dangdut channel on tv and carry on a casual conversation with her in Bahasa Indonesia. What's your name? How old are you? Where are you from originally? How long have you been in Jakarta? Yada yada yada. Occasionally, I let my hands slightly graze her body as she works. When she starts to seem more comfortable with me, I ask her about special massage. At first she says "no mister, cannot". I say ok, but ask again a few minutes later, and still no. Then I changed the TV show and put on a soft porno dvd. Haha. She acts like she isn't watching it, but it's obvious she's interested. Nearing the end of the massage, I ask again about special massage. I tell her that I am a good guy and generous. She says no again. I offer 800 k and then she starts to think about it. She asks for 2 million, but I say again 800 k and that's as high as I will go. She thinks about it a while then agrees to 800 k for full sex rather than the 200 k I was going to pay for just the massage. I would have tipped her 100 k anyway, so it's really only 500 k more than I was already going to pay for just the massage. Off comes the red t-shirt and the sloppy jeans to reveal a fantastic 19 year old body. This chick has awesome tits! She wasn't the best shag in the world, but due to her young firm body and nice tits, it was very nice indeed and a great ending to the massage. She was out the door and I was asleep 5 minutes after she left. I haven't always had such a nice experience with wechat or other phone apps, but you never know.

I have had a lot of guys sending me PMs lately asking me for numbers of girls to send to their room and I have to admit that I have replied to none of them. Unfortunately, due to some past bad experiences, I only provide numbers to guys I have met in person. However, all you need to do is pop open the wechat app or some other similar app and roll the dice. You may find a gem.

I've attached a photo of the massage girl. I had to block her face and edited the background to protect the innocent. But the tits are great in any case.

Indeed. Thanks, Smoothy. Yes, some of those Indo girls have some great shapes.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2061553] But the tits are great in any case.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2055467]Yeah, with a grand total of 18 public posts, that's very believable -- NOT.

Why would anyone even bother asking you for advice over PM with such a thin public posting history?[/QUOTE]Does it really matter what you care?

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2061430]I like the venues in North Jakarta. That's really the only place I go. I have looked all over the North looking for a decent hotel, probably stayed in 6 different places, but really haven't found anything I liked. The Grand Mercure Harmoni is the best located for what you are after but I found it to be a pretty weak 4 star experience with bad breakfasts. The Pullman at Central Park is better but much further away, however a quick trip to and from the airport. You could always stay at Travel Hotel which is attached to a decent club.

If you have the money I'd stay near Plaza Indonesia at the Pullman, the Grand Hyatt, or one of the several other hotels. Lots of great restaurants and other things in that area. Make your peace with the traffic by getting a good data plan and spring for a couple of Silver Bird Innova vans that will have you all riding comfortably from the better hotels to the good north Jakarta venues. The place that is a bicth to get to are clubs around Kings Cross and Sumo. But definitely worth a trip, IMO, just go late or early to avoid peak traffic.

Sounds like a good time. Enjoy![/QUOTE]Thanks SB, great info.

[QUOTE=DubyaMan88;2062759]Does it really matter what you care?[/QUOTE]He speaks for those who take your words with a pinch of salt.

Hi,

Been reading the Jakarta forum for a while now as I am planning in a month or 2 lately there hadn't been many post. Are mongers on leave?? Also how is the mayor doing about closing P4P shops? Any info just curious as I like indo better than Thai as they are too commercial.

[QUOTE=OldSnake;2063124]Hi,

Been reading the Jakarta forum for a while now as I am planning in a month or 2 lately there hadn't been many post. Are mongers on leave?? Also how is the mayor doing about closing P4P shops? Any info just curious as I like indo better than Thai as they are too commercial.[/QUOTE]Nothing has changed, nothing has closed.

Just returned from Jakarta last night, and I have to say there are many opportunities for a monger. My first visit was to the Hotel Classic on the second floor. Quite a few nice looking young and thin girls. Was greeted by a mamasan who offered me a shapely 22 year old girl, that I liked but I took time to decide. I have to admit I felt out of place, as the girls did not appear to be very keen on a middle aged bule, but my primary directive was to get laid so I had to not to take it personally. I thought the mamasans were totally useless, and the girls were not interested in me. Indonesia, to a white middle aged monger is so different from my Philippines or Thailand experiences. I spend some time with another girl that changed her mind after I got her a beer, and another I heard say no bule. Fuck it, so I decided to go with the original girl and after much debate about CBJ vs BBJ she agreed to the latter. Really nice body, no GFE, no English, no kissing, but a decent fuck. For 325,000 rupiah I cannot complain. I would return whether they like it or not haha.

My last night in Indonesia I spent at the Orchidz Hotel (Jalan Industri). The hotel is not bad at all and an excellent value. I checked out the Glamour Spa and Massage on the third floor, and it felt very much like the experience I had in mainland China. After three weeks on the Java island, being the only bule was a standard experience for me by now. Really nice looking girls handing out the numbered bracelets and assigning a girl. When the girl was ready the lovely attendant took me to the service provider, namely Sita #12. A nice 20 year old spinner, that provided a surprisingly thorough and good massage. Sita had a nice body, and complained about the size of my member, which for some inexplicable reason fit just fine into her lovely pussy. Again, no GFE, no kissing, watching TV, no bbj. After spending a good time with me and unable to cum she took off my condom and provided a bbj with a successful outcome. The damage was 725,000 rupiah.

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;2063434]the girls were not interested in me. Indonesia, to a white middle aged monger is so different from my Philippines or Thailand experiences. I spend some time with another girl that changed her mind after I got her a beer, and another I heard say no bule. [/QUOTE]You think Indo girls don't like white middle aged guys? You are generalizing based on your experiences at two places in an area where they cater to locals and Chinese. I also do not have good experiences in those places even though I speak Indonesian. Try going to places where white guys hang out and the girls can speak English. My bet is that your perspective will change. The level of service and GFE with those type of girls in Indonesia is fantastic. If I have white friends visiting Jakarta, I never recommend places like Hotel Classic or Orchardz Industri. I recommend places like CJs, ,BATS, and Top Gun. I don't even recommend that they stay in North Jakarta. It's a crap hole. However, you will have to pay more for girls who can speak English. If you are looking for a dirt cheap price like you paid at Classic, you aren't going to find many girls who are interested in white middle aged men. In BATS at Hotel Shangri-La, the girl's panties get wet when they see guys like that walk in.

I was hoping that my report did not come out as a generalization, but as a personal experience. I always try to avoid generalization, and my limited observations were meant to be only a reflection of what happened to me. I had restricted freedom of movement and time to venture out, and this affected my choices. Indeed I will come back and visit Block M, and the other two places you mentioned. Where do you recommend your friends to stay. Hope to be back in February.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2063445]You think Indo girls don't like white middle aged guys? You are generalizing based on your experiences at two places in an area where they cater to locals and Chinese. I also do not have good experiences in those places even though I speak Indonesian. Try going to places where white guys hang out and the girls can speak English. My bet is that your perspective will change. The level of service and GFE with those type of girls in Indonesia is fantastic. If I have white friends visiting Jakarta, I never recommend places like Hotel Classic or Orchardz Industri. I recommend places like CJs, ,BATS, and Top Gun. I don't even recommend that they stay in North Jakarta. It's a crap hole. However, you will have to pay more. If you are looking for a dirt cheap price like you paid at Classic, you aren't going to find girls who are interested in white middle aged men.[/QUOTE]

What's your budget? I recommend The Grove Suites, but it's close to $100 usd a night. The best place to stay for mongering at CJs is Hotel Mulia and for BATS at Shangri-La, but both of those are about $200 usd a night. There are cheaper options in blok m if that's the way you want to go. You can find them on Agoda.

Last week I was in Jakarta for just over a week and I visited a few places in my favorite area to the north.

Saturday night I was meant to meet up with a colleague at Malio bar but he bailed on me at the last minute so I went in there alone about 9:00 PM.

Entrance fee for Maliboro is Rp130 K but this is deducted off your final bill so it's sort of a minimum charge to keep out the "tyre kickers."

I planned to go to the bar first at the back but decided to go to the lounges on the second floor directly above the lobby.

There are two rooms there, one is a smaller lounge with a live band and the other opposite it is a much larger room with a stage and dancers, a bar, mamasans with some import wanita and on a sunken floor to the left are couches with local wanita.

I had a long discussion with a rather young and attractive mamamsan. She told me she was 38.

Prices quoted were imports starting at Rp1. 4 mil and locals Rp1. 1 mil. Some dancers were also available at a price of Rp1. 7 mil. One of the cutest dancers told me that not all the dancers will ML but she was keen if I was interested. The dancer tried to sell me " lady drinks" for Rp50 K and I asked her how much she gets from the Rp50 K and she said only Rp10 K. I said instead of buying her a lady drink I'd tip her Rp50 K directly which she accepted enthusiastically and asked me to put the cash in her panties at the front where she held my hand hard up against her pussy inside the panties for a short time and let me play with her tits. All the dancers were wearing bikinis and took turns dancing and stripping on the stage through the evening.

I asked the mamasan if she herself was available and with a laugh she wrote down Rp3. Mil. On a paper napkin.

Finally I said to the mamasan I'd take one of the local girls so she took me down to sunken floor to chose from the whole lot as I didn't want a parade on the higher level.

Most of the wanita looked bored and were playing on their phones, the mamasan suggested I take a particular one but I have always felt that the one they try to push on you are the least popular ones and the mamasans are trying to share the business around with them all. The one she chose was like a '6' anyway.

One cutie was sitting by herself and laughing at her phone. I chose her as she looked the least bored. She told me later she was laughing as she was looking at a funny video.

Her name was Lina from Central Java and I hit the jackpot. Really cute, beautiful body and she gave me the perfect GFE. I tipped her Rp200 K she was that good.

She gave me her phone number as so did the mamasan.

I then went over to Malio bar second level for a look and the first thing I noticed was it was so noisy compared to the lounge I'd just been in. Several dancers approached me for lady drinks but I declined and shortly after I left and returned to my hotel nearby.

[QUOTE=JXXXL;2059361]I'm hoping to get some advice from the esteemed members on an upcoming trip to Jakarta.

I'm planning a golf trip with a group of about 10 guys. *One thing I'm grappling with is whether to stay in central or north Jakarta. *I've stayed in central Jakarta many times and done BATS and*CJ's as have some of the group. *I'm thinking I'd like to try Alexis, Malio and maybe some clubs and I heard there are some good ones in north Jakarta. *I'd also like to avoid the sausage fest at CJ's, and with 10 guys, we'd only be adding to it.

Do any of you guys have any thoughts on staying strictly in north Jakarta and the options. *I've read a lot of posts on Alexis and Malio and it sounds like you could make an entire night at either of those places, albeit and expensive one. *.[/QUOTE]I really enjoy North Jakarta over the other places you have mentioned. I was just there a week ago and will post some field reports over the next few days.

Thank you Smoothy. During my next visit I will be coming alone, and the Grove Suites, sounds good to me. I like to stay in mid range places. Shangri-La is a little too rich for me, unless, the Canadian Dollar is at par with the USA Greenback, which is highly unlikely.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2063482]What's your budget? I recommend The Grove Suites, but it's close to $100 usd a night. The best place to stay for mongering at CJs is Hotel Mulia and for BATS at Shangri-La, but both of those are about $200 usd a night. There are cheaper options in blok m if that's the way you want to go. You can find them on Agoda.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;2063434]Just returned from Jakarta last night, and I have to say there are many opportunities for a monger. My first visit was to the Hotel Classic on the second floor. Quite a few nice looking young and thin girls. Was greeted by a mamasan who offered me a shapely 22 year old girl, that I liked but I took time to decide. I have to admit I felt out of place, as the girls did not appear to be very keen on a middle aged bule, but my primary directive was to get laid so I had to not to take it personally. I thought the mamasans were totally useless, and the girls were not interested in me. Indonesia, to a white middle aged monger is so different from my Philippines or Thailand experiences. I spend some time with another girl that changed her mind after I got her a beer, and another I heard say no bule. Fuck it, so I decided to go with the original girl and after much debate about CBJ vs BBJ she agreed to the latter. Really nice body, no GFE, no English, no kissing, but a decent fuck. For 325,000 rupiah I cannot complain. I would return whether they like it or not haha.

My last night in Indonesia I spent at the Orchidz Hotel (Jalan Industri). The hotel is not bad at all and an excellent value. I checked out the Glamour Spa and Massage on the third floor, and it felt very much like the experience I had in mainland China. After three weeks on the Java island, being the only bule was a standard experience for me by now. Really nice looking girls handing out the numbered bracelets and assigning a girl. When the girl was ready the lovely attendant took me to the service provider, namely Sita #12. A nice 20 year old spinner, that provided a surprisingly thorough and good massage. Sita had a nice body, and complained about the size of my member, which for some inexplicable reason fit just fine into her lovely pussy. Again, no GFE, no kissing, watching TV, no bbj. After spending a good time with me and unable to cum she took off my condom and provided a bbj with a successful outcome. The damage was 725,000 rupiah.[/QUOTE]Great report. Well, all's well that ends well.

Late Sunday afternoon I decided to visit one of my old haunts. I've been going back to Kartika full body soapy massage for over 15 years. The last time I was there in December I felt that I may never visit again as the place was starting to depress me with the quality on offer but there's something about this place my local friends call "rough riders" that always pulls me back.

As I walked down the lane beside the Suisse bakery on the corner of Jalan Hayam Wuruk I first passed Royal Mas massage and was persuaded to go inside and have look by a papason how was outside the door. I've been going to Kartika for so many years and I've never looked at these other places and they are practically next door. I went inside the Royal Mas and exited within 30 seconds. It looked dark and drab inside with not a decent looking wanita in sight. The reason I got out so quickly was it was full of cigarette smoke and I couldn't breathe. I was quoted Rp200 K for ++ massage in there but it was awful so I moved on.

The next place I came to was Berlian massage. Another papasan encouraged me to go inside and have a look, he also was quoting only Rp200 K and he also told me there was no smoking in there. He forgot to tell me about the loud music! The woman in there looked no better than Royal Mas so I left rather quickly and proceeded walking the extra distance to the end where Kartika was located.

There are no papasans outside Kartika. I have never seen once there.

Once inside Kartika I felt at home. No loud music or stale cigarette smoke. All one hears is calls of Hello, mister!

The woman in Kartika are a mixed bunch. Some are older and not so pretty but there often are a few nuggets in there if you look around long enough.

I chose a 170 cm tall Sumatran wanita about 27 years old. She had a gorgeous body and long legs. Ratna was her name. She said she was new there. I paid the Rp370 K and went upstairs. She was really good. I thoroughly enjoyed the session and tipped her Rp100 K I'd give her a 8 for her looks, body and performance. I liked her so much I returned there for another session with her two days later. The second session was even better.

After my session I dropped into that Suisse bakery on the corner for some of the best kroket ayam (Chicken croquettes) I've ever tasted. They had just come out of the oven.

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2061430]If you have the money I'd stay near Plaza Indonesia at the Pullman, the Grand Hyatt, or one of the several other hotels. Lots of great restaurants and other things in that area. Make your peace with the traffic by getting a good data plan and spring for a couple of Silver Bird Innova vans that will have you all riding comfortably from the better hotels to the good north Jakarta venues. The place that is a bicth to get to are clubs around Kings Cross and Sumo. But definitely worth a trip, IMO, just go late or early to avoid peak traffic..[/QUOTE]I'm going to be in Jakarta for two nights in mid-August. I will be staying at the Grand Hyatt and plan on hitting Malioboro / Malio one night and Alexis on the other, so what would be the best time to visit? As for the taxis, do you simply hail these vans or do you have to book them in advance? How about getting a taxi from these clubs on return late in the night?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Oosik;1887924].....Probably taking the one hot Uzbek was not a good idea, and I had my reservations at the start, but as I said the time in the lounge was quite nice. It was like she had dual personalities that were determined by what floor she was on.[/QUOTE]When in Rome, do as the Romans do. That's why I don't pick Russians and other CISC chicks in Asia or Orientals in Europe as a rule. Most of them would be at the bottom of a decent FKK lineup but act like prima-donnas because they are exotic to the locals. One of my funniest experiences was a Russian / East European chick covering her number at a Macau spa when I just glanced at her so that I don't pick her (presumably because I am Indian). I started laughing since I have sampled beauties who would run circles around her in Europe and much of the local fare in the lineup was drop-dead gorgeous compared to her, which is what I had come there for anyway.

[QUOTE=Kodja;2063995]
Once inside Kartika I felt at home. No loud music or stale cigarette smoke. All one hears is calls of Hello, mister![/QUOTE]I haven't been to Kartika in years, but I have never had a bad experience there. I may try to swing by Kartika and visit Ratna (or whoever catches my eye). At the moment, I've been hooked on that huge titty 19 year old wechat massage girl. I've had her at my place every day for more than a week now. I bought her some makeup and some sexy outfits and she looks great in them. Her body is absolutely killer. She tells me her period will start in about a week. That's when I'll schedule a Kartika run.

For a newbie to Indonesia, I found this site pretty helpful.

[URL]http://www.jakarta100bars.com[/URL]

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;2063449]I was hoping that my report did not come out as a generalization, but as a personal experience. I always try to avoid generalization, and my limited observations were meant to be only a reflection of what happened to me. I had restricted freedom of movement and time to venture out, and this affected my choices. Indeed I will come back and visit Block M, and the other two places you mentioned. Where do you recommend your friends to stay. Hope to be back in February.[/QUOTE]If you are looking for a mid-range hotel, take a look at the Mercure hotels. You can chose one near the venues you like. There are two up North (I have been to both) and a few in Central. One of them is right across the street from Malioboro and the other is about a 5 min ride up the same street. Both are near Classic. Then if you want to go to one of the clubs in the evening like Cjs or the bars in blok m, the traffic will be a lot less traffic. Alternatively, there are a few more of these hotels in central Jakarta if you plan to spend more time in that area. Last trip I paid about $46 USD / 610 k IDR per night. The more expensive ones were about $79 USD / 1 M IDR. Enjoy.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2064310]If you are looking for a mid-range hotel, take a look at the Mercure hotels.[/QUOTE]Those are good and have been recommended on this forum more than any other hotel in North Jakarta over the years, but the Harris vertu hotel harmoni is brand friggin new as of this year. You may want to consider the Harris if I was staying in that area (north Jakarta). Another good hotel very near to Hotel Classic is the Red Top. I don't like to stay in North Jakarta because I like to take free lancers more than go to brothels. South Jakarta free lancers aren't normally too keen about heading up to North Jakarta. But if the North Jakarta brothels are what you want, then stay in North Jakarta. The good thing about the Mercure hotels relative to the Harris is that they are a straight shot down Sudirman. They are a bit more expensive than the Harris though.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2064282]I haven't been to Kartika in years, but I have never had a bad experience there. I may try to swing by Kartika and visit Ratna (or whoever catches my eye). At the moment, I've been hooked on that huge titty 19 year old wechat massage girl. I've had her at my place every day for more than a week now. I bought her some makeup and some sexy outfits and she looks great in them. Her body is absolutely killer. She tells me her period will start in about a week. That's when I'll schedule a Kartika run.[/QUOTE]Ratna's tits are no where as big as those semangkas!

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;2063592]Thank you Smoothy. During my next visit I will be coming alone, and the Grove Suites, sounds good to me. I like to stay in mid range places. Shangri-La is a little too rich for me, unless, the Canadian Dollar is at par with the USA Greenback, which is highly unlikely.[/QUOTE]I've stayed at the Grandhika Iskandarsyah which is within walking distance of Blok M. I've also stayed quite a bit at the Grand kemang. It's near Easter Promise which is full of FL's on Friday and Saturday and it's only a 10 minute taxi to blok M, unless it's raining, then it could be an hour. Quite a few other hotels in Kemang as well of various proices. Quite a lot of bars and restuarants there to, plus a couple of good supermarkets.

Unless it has suddenly changed I've never seen 1 girl I the like to fuck in Kartika.

I the love to see a pic of this Ratna who s said to have a gorgeous body.

[QUOTE=SimplyTheBest;2064452]Unless it has suddenly changed I've never seen 1 girl I the like to fuck in Kartika.

I the love to see a pic of this Ratna who s said to have a gorgeous body.[/QUOTE]Yes, Kartika can be difficult. The times I have been to Kartika, there are very few nice girls there. However, there are a few. I haven't been to Kartika in a while, but I used to go there at times just to get the name of a nice girl, then return later to book her and try her out. The nice girls are normally busy upstairs when I arrive. If I don't see any nice girls when I first arrive (which is the norm), I sit down and have a drink waiting to see the girls come down from upstairs. Every time I have been there, I have seen a nice one come down from upstairs. Unfortunately, normally she is already booked by another guy and goes straight back up, but I get her name for next time in that case. If she does happen to be available, I will grab her and head upstairs with her. If not, I'll hang out a while longer in case another hotty comes downstairs. After I have a name or two, if I didn't get a chance to go upstairs with one, I leave and come back another day to book the nice girl (s).

Kartika is the only true soapy massage in town as far as I know. They used to have them at Oasis, but it wasn't as good. If you can find a good girl at Kartika, it's a very nice experience. And if you can find 2 good ones for the double up massage, it's heaven. Although I would never recommend 2 girls at a place like Hotel Classic, two girls at Kartika is something every guy should try if possible. It's really a unique experience. It's magical. I really don't get how those girls pull that oreo cookie type of move off where one is on top and one is underneath sliding back and forth. I would think the girl on the bottom would be crushed, but they never complain. They don't even have that double oreo cookie move soapy in Bangkok as far as I know.

As far as seeing a photo of the girl, I'd love to see a photo of every girl ever discussed on the forum.

Esteemed brothers,
this August I will be visiting Jakarta again for the the first time since 2009.
I duly RTFF, last full year and a half of it in fact, but of course I have a couple of questions left.
You can count on me posting detailed reports afterwards, as I've always done for all my mongering travels.

[I]ANAL SEX[/I]
I've read some post that describe Jakarta / Indonesia as the best bet in Asia to get anal sex, and yet I counted only a few instances where anal was described as having happened.
So my question is (regarding spa / brothels in particular): does it simply depend on the luck of finding the right girl, or is it something I can maybe discuss with the mamasans while making my choice? I wouldn't mind paying a little extra if that's what it takes.

[I]ARRANGING WITH SPA/BROTHEL GIRLS TO MEET OUTSIDE[/I]
As much as I like variety, it happens to all of us to find a girl we particularly like and click with, and which we'd like to see again.
There are post that say the girls simply don't have enough time with the long hours they work inside, posts where it was just casually mentioned that people did it, others again that listed prices too.
Again, is it down to luck, or maybe some venues are more recommended for this than others?

Thanks,
Ryo

I went to the pharmacy yesterday and they tell me there is a new law that a prescription is needed for any antibiotics now. Who has the time to go to the doctor to get a prescription? Does anyone know a place still selling over the counter antibiotics?

I will be in Jakarta in two weeks time for about a week.

My previous experience, and recent reading of this forum suggest me following:

1. I shall be staying at Central Jakarta, so that I have easy access to both South and North Jakarta.

2. My previous visits to Classic and Travel were encouraging, so would repeat them.

3. Block M is kept for one evening, though recent reports on M is not that encouraging.

4. BATS and CJ are on the list for one evening to sample out.

5. Kartika is on the list for an afternoon, someone suggested for a sandwich massage.

6. WeChat and other mobile apps are options for FL and day time fun, though my luck in this aspect was never good here.

Just curious to know the latest about the FL situation at around Sarinah and McDonalds joint.

Anybody interested to meet up for a beer and venturing together would be possible too.

T. F. E.

On my first day I went to Maliboro and after flirting with a youngish mamasan in the second floor lounge we exchanged phone numbers and the following the day the phone never stopped ringing.

It wasn't until the following day I decided to answer the phone. She said she finished work at 7:00 PM and wanted to know if we could hang out so I invited her to join me for dinner in nearby Pencenongan area. Well known for the restaurants.

After dinner she insisted we visit a Karaoke bar in Mangga dua so we spent a couple of hours there and she had a few beers and became extremely amorous.

Next thing I know she organized a GRAB car and we were back in my hotel room. She showered and jumped in the bed and went to work. I reckon she gave me one of the most enthusiastic blow jobs and sex I've had for along time.

I gave her 600 K but she wanted a lot more. Although I enjoyed this quite unexpected experience it's going to be a "one off" for me.

[QUOTE=TfEight;2066043]
Just curious to know the latest about the FL situation at around Sarinah and McDonalds joint.[/QUOTE]That was a great pickup spot 20 years ago when Tanamur was in full force. Late at night, that place always had girls ending their night from Tanamur / JJs, or Hard Rock Cafe. Now, it's not really a pickup spot for FL anymore. I'm not saying it's not possible because it's possible to pick up girls anywhere in town, but it's not an especially good place to expect pickups.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2066303]That was a great pickup spot 20 years ago when Tanamur was in full force. .[/QUOTE]Tanamur. That's a blast from the past. I went there so many years ago and I ahd to go to that address now I wouldn't know where it was located. I also remember a place in Block M called hotel Tambora. What happened to those places?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2065802]I went to the pharmacy yesterday and they tell me there is a new law that a prescription is needed for any antibiotics now. Who has the time to go to the doctor to get a prescription? Does anyone know a place still selling over the counter antibiotics?[/QUOTE]To Smoothy.

It is always difficult to get antibiotics and any prescription drug in Indonesia government are very strict about generic drug and it is expensive, I always get my antibiotics in Thailand and China where generic drug are easy to get and cheap.

Fast Eddie 48.

I have been travelling around South East Asia, going to Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur, Ho Chi Minh and Jakarta for the past 10 days and thanks to the contributions of the members, I have been able to experience the best of each city. I will post a report for each country, but overall, I would say that Bangkok is still the best of all in terms of quality, quantity, availability and value. You can find for every type of taste from low cost to luxury. Vietnam has maybe the prettiest girls, but it is not that easy to find a full service and cost can be high. In Kuala Lumpur, a lot of massages / spa around, easy to find with girls from most of South East Asian countries available: local, Indonesia, Thai, Viet, Cambodia and Lao. Cost is around 250 RM in average for 45-60 min, but as I'm more toward the high end, I have not found a real good quality massage place so far in KL. Jakarta surprisingly has a lot to offer on the high end, with several big complex available, and Indonesian girls can be very wild on bed.

I just spent 2 superb days in Jakarta, and were most of the evenings at the Alexis hotel. It's completely in the North of Jakarta and all taxis know this hotel.

This complex has a lot to offer, with the bar / club / strip dancers on 1st floor, which opens at 10 pm til very late, 2nd floor is a restaurant, 3rd floor a karaoke, 5th floor is for massage and 7th floor is the VIP Spa where you can get full service with a choice of Indonesian, Thai, Vietnamese, Chinese, Russian. On one side, it has a hot swimming pool with light, medium and hot temperature, a spa room, chairs where you can relax. Locker rooms, shower, with boxers, towels and amenities are provided. It's really luxury. On the other side, you have the bar, with chairs, sofa where you can order a drink or food and relax, while selecting your lady. Every time I went there, there were at least 50 girls to choose from, grouped in each corner by nationality, with the Indonesian girls being by far the most numerous, followed by the Vietnamese, then Thai, Russian and Chinese (only 2 when I was there).

Entrance fee is 150 k Rupiah, which you only pay at the end, but this is only if you decide not to spend anything while inside. Otherwise, it is part of the total.

Prices for the girls have increased significantly: Indonesian girls are now at 1. 45 Mil Rupiah and all other import girls are at 2. 45 Mil Rupiah. But most of the girls were pretty to very pretty with nice body. All girls I had did not have silicon boobs, but maybe I was lucky. So you really pay for the quality!

The price includes the Spa / swimming pool, where the girl spends 30 min with you in the hot swimming pool, taking good care of you, giving you massage and rubbing her body against you. Then 60 minutes in the room, where you get full service. Rooms are big, nice, very clean with TV, music. There is also a tip for the girl of around 300 k to 500 k expected at the end of the session, depending on the service level.

After the end of the session, you can go an enjoy the swimming pool as much as you want, or just go to the bar and order a drink while watching the girls.

I tried the Indonesians and Chinese, and I would say that each time, I was very satisfied with the level of service. Girls treats you like a real boyfriend, and they have all been well trained in taking good care of you from the beginning, until you unload. I did not do the Thai, as I was in Bangkok several days ago, and the Russian did not look happy, so I decided not to go for it.

I have been in mongering in several countries, and I rate Alexis hotel 7th floor quite high, if you are looking for quality with good service, and don't want to spend time searching or seducing the girl, I highly recommend Alexis hotel. Obviously, it is a bit pricey, but much cheaper than Macau. Enjoy!

[QUOTE=RyoSaeba;2065753]
[I]ANAL SEX[/I]
I've read some post that describe Jakarta / Indonesia as the best bet in Asia to get anal sex, and yet I counted only a few instances where anal was described as having happened.
So my question is (regarding spa / brothels in particular): does it simply depend on the luck of finding the right girl, or is it something I can maybe discuss with the mamasans while making my choice? I wouldn't mind paying a little extra if that's what it takes.[/QUOTE]I hope the experts will answer to you, because I'm curious too about this question. I remember sometimes ago someone asking if there is any place in Jakarta with guaranteed Anal service like Tulip or Snow White in Bangkok, and the asnwer was no. So hoping in some good advice for anal in Jakarta.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2067223]I hope the experts will answer to you, because I'm curious too about this question. I remember sometimes ago someone asking if there is any place in Jakarta with guaranteed Anal service like Tulip or Snow White in Bangkok, and the asnwer was no. So hoping in some good advice for anal in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]From my experience you are probably only going to get maybe 40% of the girls out ther who are up for anal. I don't frequent North Jakarta so my pool of talent is smaller. I've read that some people have had very high success with anal but that hasn't been my experience. I've asked and generally got a firm no. I didn't push after that so I can't say if they would have relented or not. YMMV.

[QUOTE=Kerrstar;2067226]From my experience you are probably only going to get maybe 40% of the girls out ther who are up for anal.[/QUOTE]I think it's closer to 4%.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2067272]I think it's closer to 4%.[/QUOTE]I took few girls from BATS and three offered anal. I can say Indo girls (if they like anal) they really enjoy. All three really enjoyed and done repeatedly. I can say all or 40% like but some may agree or like.

[QUOTE=Melman111;2067278]I took few girls from BATS and three offered anal. I can say Indo girls (if they like anal) they really enjoy. All three really enjoyed and done repeatedly. I can say all or 40% like but some may agree or like.[/QUOTE]I do agree that if you want anal, BATS and CJs are your best places to have a chance. When you are paying a girl 2 million rupiah for a short time, she is much more likely to agree to anal than a girl getting a 100 k cut in a brothel. I agree that 40% of BATS and CJs (or even higher) girls would agree to anal. But overall in Indonesia, I'd guess 4% is more likely the average. I find that if I am paying a CJs or BATS girl 2 million rupiah, they are agreeable to basically anything I want. When I negotiate them down to 1 million, they are much less likely to agree to anything I want. CJs and BATS girls are also about 10 years or more older than the girls in the brothels. It seems the older girls are more willing to go for anal.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2067272]I think it's closer to 4%.[/QUOTE]I based my number on my experience, but I'd say it wouldn't be higher than that. There were a few I just didn't ask as well, so I excluded them. That would reduce the number. I've read posts where people say the girls always offer, but that I find hard to believe.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2067283]I do agree that if you want anal, BATS and CJs are your best places to have a chance. When you are paying a girl 2 million rupiah for a short time, she is much more likely to agree to anal than a girl getting a 100 k cut in a brothel. I agree that 40% of BATS and CJs (or even higher) girls would agree to anal. But overall in Indonesia, I'd guess 4% is more likely the average. I find that if I am paying a CJs or BATS girl 2 million rupiah, they are agreeable to basically anything I want. When I negotiate them down to 1 million, they are much less likely to agree to anything I want. CJs and BATS girls are also about 10 years or more older than the girls in the brothels. It seems the older girls are more willing to go for anal.[/QUOTE]I paid 1 million for a girl from Dee's place in Block M who did anal. Picked up a few from Eastern Promise and they were straight out 'no'.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2067283]I do agree that if you want anal, BATS and CJs are your best places to have a chance. When you are paying a girl 2 million rupiah for a short time, she is much more likely to agree to anal than a girl getting a 100 k cut in a brothel. I agree that 40% of BATS and CJs (or even higher) girls would agree to anal. But overall in Indonesia, I'd guess 4% is more likely the average. I find that if I am paying a CJs or BATS girl 2 million rupiah, they are agreeable to basically anything I want. When I negotiate them down to 1 million, they are much less likely to agree to anything I want. CJs and BATS girls are also about 10 years or more older than the girls in the brothels. It seems the older girls are more willing to go for anal.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately the larger the size, the less likely that 40 kg sweetie is going to let you put it in 'there'.

As a lateral solution to achieving your aims maybe the competition theory can help you achieve your anal targets.

OS had a memorable night with young two sweeties from favourite brothel complex just last year who had come for "boking luar' back to hotel, A great time was had by all while enjoying some chemically enhanced grooving. OS decided to try one finger in "lubang yang satu" while moving his big thing in and out. Upon enquiry she confirmed that this was no problem so OS inserted finger number two, subsequent enquiries confirmed still no problem. OS then took advantage of her co-operative nature and slowly inserted his big thing all the way into the anus of this little 19 yo while her friend laid watching, blissing out with the music.

Pretty soon OS's big thing was sliding in and out like it had been built for this purpose and she was wiggling her bottom away with the music and enjoying life. OS was thinking 'got to remember this moment'. After a while her friend wanted OS to pay her some attention so a quick wash and OS resumed his duties.

Funnily enough I took this girl a second time a month later on her own and she wouldn't let me do her bum. Said it hurts. How does that work?

I just have to wonder whether she was playing a game of brinkmanship with her friend that night, but of course OS is always happy to help whatever the purpose.

Enjoy. OS.

[QUOTE=Bkk212;2061465]Well I was once again back in Jakarta for my holiday and relaxation. Fortunately this time around I didn't have any issues with the Immigration, but I did carry my passport with me at all times, even if I was going to KFC / McD's. Ok so my report focuses on three different methods / operations while I was in Jakarta.

As usual I stayed most of the times at the Novotel Gajah Mada and this time I decided to try the old guy and his "ladies", he is always outside the Wendy's near the LTC Glodok mall. He quoted 500 k for ST, so I decided to try it out and as well it would save me the WOS as I am now quite well know at this hotel. So he brought two girls for me to choose from one was cheery and friendly and the other seems as though she was forced to be there, so I choose the friendly girl. All was ok at first light chit-chat etc but time to service she refused to shower. Now for me that a huge turnoff especially not knowing where she just had been. So I told her to leave, no shower no action. Lesson learned, I sent the old man a text but he never replied, so NEVER again..[/QUOTE]What's the standard rate in Blok M now?

[QUOTE=OwnAgeSex;2067362]What's the standard rate in Blok M now?[/QUOTE]I paid 1 million earlier in the year which was what she quoted. That was a girl from Dee's place, a bar across from Top Gun. I didn't try to haggle her down, I just couldn't be bothered at the time and the price wasn't too expensive anyway.

[QUOTE=Kodja;2066581]Tanamur. That's a blast from the past. I went there so many years ago and I ahd to go to that address now I wouldn't know where it was located. I also remember a place in Block M called hotel Tambora. What happened to those places?[/QUOTE]Tambora mysteriously burned down after all valuables had been removed. Tanamur went bankrupt according to my sources.

[QUOTE=OwnAgeSex;2067362]What's the standard rate in Blok M now?[/QUOTE]Between 500 k and 1 million depending on the quality of the girl and how many guys are there that night. If I had to pick a "standard" price, I'd say 800 k.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2067327]Unfortunately the larger the size, the less likely that 40 kg sweetie is going to let you put it in 'there'.[/QUOTE]Good point. Guys with smaller dicks will have more possibility of the girl's agreeing to anal. But hell, I think that even applies to vaginal sex.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2067585]Between 500 k and 1 million depending on the quality of the girl and how many guys are there that night. If I had to pick a "standard" price, I'd say 800 k.[/QUOTE]This rate is for LT or ST?

[QUOTE=OwnAgeSex;2067668]This rate is for LT or ST?[/QUOTE]For ST, however if the girls live far away they may do LT for the same if it's late and your hotel is nice.

[QUOTE=Kerrstar;2067874]For ST, however if the girls live far away they may do LT for the same if it's late and your hotel is nice.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OwnAgeSex;2067668]This rate is for LT or ST?[/QUOTE]That's not the ST rate. IMO, ST rate at Dees Place for example, should only be about 500 k IDR.

Keep in mind, you can also get LT for 500 and up. Depends on you, and your negotiating skills. 1 to 2 years ago I took a girl from Dees to my hotel for LT for 350 k IDR. The next day, being a nice guy, I gave her a little more to get home. After all, it was only 350 k for all night. Two days later she was texting me asking to meet again. So my max at Dees would be 7-800 k. Depends on the girl, the chemistry, and how much I like her.

This is just my opinion, if I had to put a number on it. I would say ST for a lady at Dees place would only be about 500 k. LT would be 700 k or 800 k.

There was a time when you have the girl right there in the back. Don't know if that's still going on.
In any case, no sense in taking a girl from Dees back to your hotel for 1 m for ST. You can get a better girl at CJs or Bats for 1. 2 m.
I'm not knocking Dees. I had a great time there. But 1 m at that place is high.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2068002]You can get a better girl at CJs or Bats for 1. 2 m.[/QUOTE]I think this is a bit misleading. I consider myself a fairly decent negotiator. However, (except for extremely rare occasions) when I offer the hot girls there 1. 2 m, they flat out refuse (a mediocre girl will accept that). 1. 5 to 2 million is the going rate there for a hot girl. On a busy night, sometimes the hottest ones even demand 2. 5 short time there. Kudos to you if you are getting the hottest girls at those places for 1. 2, but I find it hard to believe unless perhaps you are quite a handsome young guy. Then again, if you are just saying you can get a mediocre level girl for 1.2 at CJs or BATS and that would be better than any girl from D's, I do agree with that.

As far as D's, I think your prices are spot on. But in reality, the D's place girls are not very hot. I've only taken one girl home from D's in the last 10 years simply because they aren't hot enough to take home relative to what's available in Jakarta. It's a great place to grab a drink and have a good chat, but as far as stunning girls, that ain't the place to find them. Anjani is pretty hot and that one dancer Karel takes home isn't bad, but overall the talent level is low. Top Gun and My Bar do have a couple of hotties on occasion, but D's place is more just a hang out spot without hotties.

D's does have the back VIP room open still. It's mainly used by married guys in town who can't take the girls home.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2068284]
As far as D's, I think your prices are spot on. But in reality, the D's place girls are not very hot. I've only taken one girl home from D's in the last 10 years simply because they aren't hot enough to take home relative to what's available in Jakarta. It's a great place to grab a drink and have a good chat, but as far as stunning girls, that ain't the place to find them. Anjani is pretty hot and that one dancer Karel takes home isn't bad, but overall the talent level is low. Top Gun and My Bar do have a couple of hotties on occasion, but D's place is more just a hang out spot without hotties.
[/QUOTE]I used to go to the's mainly just to have a few beers. As you pointed out, it rarely got hot girls in there but I was there one night and they had a few new dancers that were tasty and several freelancers as well. The girl I gave 1 million to was one who's number I got and met up with her another night. She was my type, I like them thin. I was only in Jakarta for a few days at a time so I wasn't going out every night. Paying a bit extra for one I thoughgt was tasty was worth it for my. I don't like Top Gun that much these days but that's more to do with the music being too loud. I had a regular hook up in Jakarta for the weekend and I gave her 600 k plus bought her dinner. That was LT. I didn't meet her at the's, it was the upstairs bar a door or two down, can't remember the name.

I wouldn't call the's place a haven of young talent but it's a nice place to hav a few beers.

[QUOTE=Kerrstar;2068307]I don't like Top Gun that much these days.[/QUOTE]Well, then you probably won't be too upset to hear that they are supposedly closing Top Gun down in 2 weeks. At least that's the word on the street.

Without Top Gun, I won't visit the Blok at all.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2068345]Without Top Gun, I won't visit the Blok at all.[/QUOTE]I'd be surprised that any of the bars last more than another year or so. With the metro going in, that area should become hot property. I'd be surprised if a office building or condo doesn't go up there in a few years, if not earlier.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2068345]Well, then you probably won't be too upset to hear that they are supposedly closing Top Gun down in 2 weeks. At least that's the word on the street.

Without Top Gun, I won't visit the Blok at all.[/QUOTE]I liked TopGun when they had the girl free restaurant at the back. Fantastic Chicken in a basket along with a big TV showing CNN live, a real treat for me. One night when I think the shit was going down at Tiananmen Square a crazy rumour was going around that one of the front bar girls was regularly getting RP. 50000 for a shag.

It seemed kind of ridiculous that anyone would pay Rp50 k. So we all decided to chip in money and invite this girl to the back restaurant. She got a special pass to come through. I took a good look at the girl who had broken the glass ceiling. She was a very pretty mixed Manadonese but no way was she worth Rp. 50 k of my hard earned money.

[QUOTE=UsPete;2068421]I liked TopGun when they had the girl free restaurant at the back. Fantastic Chicken in a basket along with a big TV showing CNN live, a real treat for me. One night when I think the shit was going down at Tiananmen Square a crazy rumour was going around that one of the front bar girls was regularly getting RP. 50000 for a shag.

It seemed kind of ridiculous that anyone would pay Rp50 k. So we all decided to chip in money and invite this girl to the back restaurant. She got a special pass to come through. I took a good look at the girl who had broken the glass ceiling. She was a very pretty mixed Manadonese but no way was she worth Rp. 50 k of my hard earned money.[/QUOTE]So, given the exchange rate at the time, that was about 30 usd I am guessing. If that was considered high at the time, what was the regular rate? When I first arrived in 1998, the going rate was 200,000 and that was also 30 usd at the exchange rate in 1998. At that time, the girls never even negotiated. And there was no barter over long time or short time. They stayed long time and just accepted 200k in the morning no questions asked.

I liked Top Gun back in those old days as well. Mainly because it started much earlier. I can't say I spent a lot of time in the back room where the girls weren't allowed. However, I could go there at 6 pm and there would be a nice supply of girls already. When D's place and My Bar came onto the scene, things went downhill because you could no longer hit the blok at 6 pm, it didn't get started until at least 10 when those 2 places opened. I loved the days when we could have dinner at Sportys after work, then walk over to Top Gun around 7 and hang out there until about 10. Then go to Oscars at 10 and stay there until about 1. Then head to Lintas Melawai from 1 onwards. It was the perfect setup and absolute bliss.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2068438]So, given the exchange rate at the time, that was about 30 usd I am guessing. If that was considered high at the time, what was the regular rate? When I first arrived in 1998, the going rate was 200,000 and that was also 30 usd at the exchange rate in 1998. At that time, the girls never even negotiated. And there was no barter over long time or short time. They stayed long time and just accepted 200k in the morning no questions asked.

.[/QUOTE]Sportsmans / TopGun etc. Opening up in the afternoons with their blue collar beer & working class pool ruffled a lot of feathers. The sundowners and old colonials predicted the death of the gin pahit, ceruts & snooker rooms in Paletahan. The last big snooker hall was gone by 1995.

Irish Mary in Proklamasi had a sign on her bar for expats. 1 USD = 1 beer, 10 beers = 1 girl. This general rule applied from the 70's right up to maybe Krismon in the late 90's in Jakarta. The monetary crisis screwed up many businesses and a lot of trash washed ashore.

So this TopGun Nona I mentioned was acquiring a worth of 25 - 30 beers. How much would that be in TopGun nowdays?

Well I have had the best time in Jakarta everytime I am there and this time will not be different. Except for the traffic Jakarta is the best mongering place I have been to.

I have tried Maliboro, Alexis Cj's and Bats. And like any other cities mongering seems to be getting expensive here.

Need some help on the clubs where we could hit on high quality girls. Yes Alexis and Maliboro has them but I am looking more into girls whom I can party with and then get her to my hotel.

I did get one some years back in bats. But these days Bats is where you can pick up easily if you have the budget.

Any expert help from the seasoned mongers would really be helpful.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2068438]When I first arrived in 1998, the going rate was 200,000 and that was also 30 usd at the exchange rate in 1998. At that time, the girls never even negotiated. And there was no barter over long time or short time. They stayed long time and just accepted 200k in the morning no questions asked.[/QUOTE]Smoothly,

You Jakarta guys always ruined the market. LOL.

At that time the price in regional mining areas was 100 k for professional girls direct from the brothels. Weekend rates where for a little more, say 120 k, where you collected the girl after work on Friday and dropped her off before work on Monday morning. But you had to feed her. They would tolerate being short changed but all hell would break loose if food was not included!

LT dominated the market but there was an enterprising lass that specialized in taking on all comers for ST in the pickup tray in the car park. I was told it was a package deal of 5 guys for 100 k.

Prices remained at those levels for quite a few years but the ratcheted up and the concept of pump and run was introduced. I remember when everyone was shell shocked when priced moved from 300 k to 500 k. $50 for a nights fun with a BATS looker seemed outrageous!

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2068284]I think this is a bit misleading. I consider myself a fairly decent negotiator. However, (except for extremely rare occasions) when I offer the hot girls there 1. 2 m, they flat out refuse (a mediocre girl will accept that). 1. 5 to 2 million is the going rate there for a hot girl. On a busy night, sometimes the hottest ones even demand 2. 5 short time there. Kudos to you if you are getting the hottest girls at those places for 1. 2, but I find it hard to believe unless perhaps you are quite a handsome young guy. Then again, if you are just saying you can get a mediocre level girl for 1.2 at CJs or BATS and that would be better than any girl from D's, I do agree with that.[/QUOTE]Not really misleading. That's exactly what I said. It makes no sense in taking a girl from Dees back to your hotel for ST at 1 m when you can get a better girl at CJs or Bats for 1. 2 m. Better means just that, prettier (and not just mediocre either). The vast majority of the girls at a place like CJs, IMO, are way better looking than the girls in Dees. Of course every one of us is going to have a different opinion of what constitutes mediocre, pretty, or hot looking. I wouldn't consider giving 1 m to a girl from Blok M unless I got REALLY lucky and found a gem. I don't think that's going to happen there at the Blok.

I agree, in the clubs, sure some girls WANT 2 m. They are not shy to ask for that much. A lot of them think their punanny is worth that much. Then you have those that act sort of stuck up and just tell you a price without even telling you her name first. That's fine by me. If a girl like that doesn't even want to talk, have some conversation and then later consider 1. 2 or 1. 5 max, I just let them be. I sit back, enjoy my beer and talk to the next one I like. Like I said, it depends on you, your negotiating skills, and whether the girl likes you (if she has rent due, etc.). I have been living in Asia for 4-5 years so it helps if one doesn't go in looking like hungry wolf on the prowl. For me, the going rate at CJs is right about 1. 2 m-1. 5 whether she is smokin hotttt or in the pretty category. That's just 'my' rate and I think it's plenty for Jakarta. I just don't think even the hottest girls are worth 2 m. They will ask for that much but 2 m is a lot of money for them. That's about 150 USD. What is that 1/3 or half of a monthly salary over there?

My experience at CJs last year was similar to what I just mentioned above. I was there with Ggekko2009 and we talked to a handful of ladies. Some were cool, some stuck up. Maybe 2 asked straight up for 2 m. The very pretty girl that I took back was sexy, easy-going, and gave me great attention from the time I first spoke to her. We just had beers together, talked, danced, etc. It was actually like a normal hook-up at a bar back home. When it was time to leave, I asked her if she wanted to come with me and I offered her 1 m. Since we hit it off well, she accepted. This girl was no where near mediocre, like some of the others girls there. IMO, she was one of the better looking girls there and she had a great attitude. She even drove us back to the hotel since she had her car parked there. Next day, after the late morning session, I gave her 1m. She asked for some gas money and I thought that was fair considering we didn't pay for a taxi to get back. So I gave her an extra 200 k and she gave me her phone number. That was my experience. I want a very pretty girl, easy going, no attitude, and no hard negotiating.

[QUOTE=Always09;2068651]Well I have had the best time in Jakarta everytime I am there and this time will not be different. Except for the traffic Jakarta is the best mongering place I have been to. I have tried Maliboro, Alexis Cj's and Bats. And like any other cities mongering seems to be getting expensive here.
Need some help on the clubs where we could hit on high quality girls. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Take a look at Jakarta100 bars. Then call the places you are interested in to check what's going on. Some of the clubs have closed and new ones have opened. So you have to check first. I haven't been there in about a year, so I can't tell you for certain. The clubs I have on my notes are Colosseum 1001, Immigrant, V2, Emperica. All will cost some money. Again, call ahead or look online for recent reviews. If you find any interesting places send up a report. Have fun.

Disclaimer: I'm a noob to Indonesia, I was sent here for business with one week notice and skimmed the forum but didn't RTFF yet.

Day 1: Jet lagged after a 20+ hour flight from the USA I skim this forum and Jakarta100 bars to find a massage with extras. I'm staying near the Pondok Indah Mall in South Jakarta. From JK1000 I find Anggrek Spa which is very close.

Anggrek Spa: I walked in and am greeted at the front desk. I order the basic room which was 215,000. I then walk up a flight of stairs and meet a guy with a tablet. They had 10 girls working at 18:00. I picked one and was sent to my small room.

In walks a stunning girl. Big smile on my face. She doesn't speak English and I don't speak Indonesian. So I pull out my phone and type in 400,000 and hand it to her. She takes my phone and types in her phone number. *Forehead slap. I eventually get "how much" across, she types 500,000. I say okay.

She gives a killer massage. 10/10, my back feels so much better. On the flip she takes off her top and starts a HJ. I go to take her shorts off and she shuts me down. (At this point I realize that I didn't properly negotiate full service for 500 K. SO. I kick back and play with her tits while I get a quite good HJ.

Total damage: 215 K for room, 500 K to girl. 715 K IDR total or $54 USD.

Learning from day 1: I need to learn hooker Indo and load google translate to my phone. Also I feel like I overpaid compared to the market based on a quick RTFF. I left satisfied and hungry to learn more about Jakarta. Off to RTFF. I'm out here for a few more months. If anyone is very knowledgeable about South Jakarta and open to hanging out with a newbie shoot me a PM.

I spent 2 weeks in Jakarta recently for mongering purposes and visited many places:

1. Malioboro was clearly the nicest brothel which I visited in Jakarta. I went there 5 times. The club has tens and tens of attractive dancers with trimmed bushes and tight bodies dancing naked on the stage and later asking for drinks. I have never seen so many good looking naked young slim girls on a bar stage at the same time in any bar in SE Asia. Amazing. Some of these girls will fuck for 3 M, I did not take anyone up to the rooms. Mostly they seem to do BJ's. Also Malio lounge had nice looking dancers dancing topless but not showing pussy. I found Malio Lounge couch girls were a bit better looking than the ones in Malio Club. But the dancers are hotter downstairs.

2. Alexis. This was the nicest spa I visited in Jakarta (Tuesday). Good selection of girls, both local and imported. Nice and clean facilities. I fucked a pretty Viet girl.

3. King Cross. I visited KC once (Wednesday). Quite nice selection of girls on the couches and sexy dancers both at downstairs and upstairs. Very aggressively asking for ladies drinks. Not as nice place and girls as Malioboro in my opinion. But worth a visit at least once in a lifetime if in Jakarta.

4. Emporium Spa (Thursday). Pretty decent selection of girls and nice facilities. Not as good as Alexis though. One of the mamasans has pictures of some of the girls tits on her mobile phone. This was a new feature for me and I liked it. At least you get an idea of how the girls boobs look like. So many of these girls have padded bras which is misleading for many mongers. I hate them.

5. Tease Club at Emporium. Relatively small strip tease club and annoyingly full at times. Some good looking dancers. I did not ask option to take them to a room or the price.

6. Illegals club. Went there on Wednesday midnight. Empty place with handful of people.

7. Illegals Spa. I visited on a Friday afternoon. Some nice girls but a bit sparse number of hookers available. Good facilities, I would go again.

8. Classic. Visited all 3 levels, Bunker, Level 2 and 5. Not my kind of a place. I did not fuck there. Some good looking girls but aggressive and loud atmosphere. Caters to local guys mostly, I guess.

9. Kota Indah. I checked some of the bars there out of a curiosity. Crap, not much more to say.

10. BATS. Visited 2 times, Friday and Sunday. Not many attractive girls, I took one to my hotel on a Sunday night.

11. CJ's. Also visited twice here, Saturday and Wednesday. Better looking babes on Wednesday. I took one freelancer to my hotel. Not the prettiest face but quite a nice body.

12. Dee's place and Top Gun. Both were pretty quiet on Saturday at 02 am. Not any nice looking girls on the menu.

13. Immigrants. This nightclub was OK on a Friday night. Hottest girls were not pros and not available for a bule. Only a few freelancers around, nothing special.

14. X2 nightclub. This place was packed on a Saturday night. Handful of WG's, the rest were local girls and again no chance unless you are a young and handsome dude (which I am not anymore).

The traffic sucks big time in Jakarta as everyone knows but I managed to visit all the places within 40-50 minutes from my hotel (Grand Hyatt).

On my way back from King Cross the police stopped the taxi and I had to pay 500 K for "The Commander" since I did not have my passport with me. After that night I had my passport in my jeans pocket every fucking night.

I still don't get it why people will pay 1 or even 2 millions roupiah for ST with an average old girl in 1 place while in the same city you can get laid for 350 k with a young and beautiful one in some places that we all know.

Jesus if you use dating sites and have some time to spare you can even get laid for free here!

[QUOTE=SimplyTheBest;2068795] Jesus if you use dating sites and have some time to spare you can even get laid for free here![/QUOTE]It's the spare time that's usually the limit for some of us, especially if it's a quick, unexpected trip.

[QUOTE=ArnPoddict;2068776]I spent 2 weeks in Jakarta recently for mongering purposes and visited many places:

On my way back from King Cross the police stopped the taxi and I had to pay 500 K for "The Commander" since I did not have my passport with me. After that night I had my passport in my jeans pocket every fucking night.[/QUOTE]Great to hear you had a good time but when you return continue to leave your passport in the safe. Never hand it over to someone clearly looking to top up their income for the night. Once they have your passport you will find that there is another problem and the "fine" will rise substantially just so you can get it back. Much better just to pay the $50, book it to the cost of a night's entertainment and move on.

You were unlucky to get stopped at all so don't expect it to happen repeatedly or in return trips.

I think you will find that even if you do keep your passport with you at all times, the police are still likely to ask for money to "help you". The one time I got pulled over by the cops when I did actually have my passport, they still wanted money. They claimed I needed to have gone to the police station and filed a police report upon arrival in the country and asked why the police report was not in my passport. That being said, I've never given as much as 500 k at any time. I've probably been pulled over 20 times in 20 years. Half of those times, they let me off without paying anything even though I did not have a passport. The rest of the times I paid 100 k with the exception of 1 time where I had to pay 300 k. The one time I paid 300 k I was in a Silverbird taxi who had actually broken the law by driving in the busway when that was not allowed. It was not a police blockade, but the cop happened to be behind us on a motorbike. The cop originally wanted money from the taxi driver for his mistake, but once he saw me in the back seat he decided to go for more money. He refused 100 k and was a real ass about it telling me if I could afford a Silverbird, I could afford more than 100 k.

[QUOTE=DirectVoyage;2068753]Disclaimer: I'm a noob to Indonesia, I was sent here for business with one week notice and skimmed the forum but didn't RTFF yet.
Total damage: 215 K for room, 500 K to girl. 715 K IDR total or $54 USD.
Learning from day 1: I need to learn hooker Indo and load google translate to my phone. Also I feel like I overpaid compared to the market based on a quick RTFF. I left satisfied and hungry to learn more about Jakarta. Off to RTFF. I'm out here for a few more months. If anyone is very knowledgeable about South Jakarta and open to hanging out with a newbie shoot me a PM.[/QUOTE]Definitely need to read up and get educated fast. Should have spent a few hours reading before you left, even with a 1 week notice. In any case, it seems like you learned pretty fast so you should be alright.

[QUOTE=DirectVoyage;2068753] (At this point I realize that I didn't properly negotiate full service for 500 K.

Learning from day 1: I need to learn hooker Indo and load google translate to my phone. Also I feel like I overpaid compared to the market based on a quick RTFF. I left satisfied and hungry to learn more about Jakarta. Off to RTFF. I'm out here for a few more months. If anyone is very knowledgeable about South Jakarta and open to hanging out with a newbie shoot me a PM.[/QUOTE]As far as learning the language for full service, that is quite easy. If you want full sex, simply say "ML" (which stands for making love). The girls all understand that. You already had the amount correct so once you say ML, you are set.

I'm a free-lancer / take-out kind of guy, and I'm wondering if it's safe to assume Western hotels in Jakarta will be GF. I'm thinking of big Western hotel chains like Sheraton or Westin.

[QUOTE=Jsxyz;2069621]I'm a free-lancer / take-out kind of guy, and I'm wondering if it's safe to assume Western hotels in Jakarta will be GF. I'm thinking of big Western hotel chains like Sheraton or Westin.[/QUOTE]If you read through the Jakarta Hotel thread, you will find that all western hotels are girl friendly. Please stay at the Westin. That's a brand new hotel and there are no reports yet on that hotel. The Sheraton is way up near the airport, you wouldn't want to stay there regardless.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2069627]If you read through the Jakarta Hotel thread, you will find that all western hotels are girl friendly. Please stay at the Westin. That's a brand new hotel and there are no reports yet on that hotel. The Sheraton is way up near the airport, you wouldn't want to stay there regardless.[/QUOTE]Thanks! I didn't realize there was a Jakarta hotels thread. Missed that.

Just so no one gets mislead by false information earlier posted here, the one Sheraton in Jakarta is the Sheraton Gandaria, which is in South Jakarta. It has been open for close to two years.

There is no Sheraton near the airport although there once was.

Currently there are 6 Starwood Hotels operating in Jakarta: The Sheraton Grand Jakarta Gandaria City, LE Meridien, Four Points by Sheraton, Keraton At the Plaza, The Hermitage, and The Westin. The Aloft Jakarta Wahid Hasyim is scheduled to open September 15 and two more hotels are slated to open in 2019: the Aloft Jakarta Simatupang, and The St. Regis Jakarta.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2069700]Currently there are 6 Starwood Hotels operating in Jakarta: The Sheraton Grand Jakarta Gandaria City, LE Meridien, Four Points by Sheraton, Keraton At the Plaza, The Hermitage, and The Westin. The Aloft Jakarta Wahid Hasyim is scheduled to open September 15 and two more hotels are slated to open in 2019: the Aloft Jakarta Simatupang, and The St. Regis Jakarta.[/QUOTE]Hi Natty,

Have you stayed at any of those? I've stayed at Le Meridien in the past, but wouldn't recommend it.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2069720]Hi Natty,

Have you stayed at any of those? I've stayed at Le Meridien in the past, but wouldn't recommend it.[/QUOTE]I've stayed at Sheraton Gandaria City a couple of months ago and found it very convenient. Thanks to the mall. Heck, I even did some mall hunting there. But I wasn't very successful, unlike Mighty Spearsman some time ago.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2069720]Hi Natty,

Have you stayed at any of those? I've stayed at Le Meridien in the past, but wouldn't recommend it.[/QUOTE]Can you share why? I generally like Le Meridien, and the location looks pretty good.

[QUOTE=Menteng;2069779]I've stayed at Sheraton Gandaria City a couple of months ago and found it very convenient. Thanks to the mall. Heck, I even did some mall hunting there. But I wasn't very successful, unlike Mighty Spearsman some time ago.[/QUOTE]Is it better than the Bintang Baru?

Went to Classic Terminal 2 at 1900 hrs. After strolling for 10 minutes, didn't find a good one. So I gave Mami 50 K and told her to find a girl. She came up with slim 18 year old girl, bit dark skin, but very good height.

She told me that she is new here and will be good for you.

Her name if I properly remember was Shela. She had a very nice smile. So I decided to go for her.

Now the unique and unexpected story starts.

She asked some girls how to go to the room. I told her downstairs.

After reaching down, she was finding the room, asked some assistant to guide her the room.

That I came to know, that it was her first day at Classic.

We both first sat on the bed and started deep throat kissing. After shower went to the bed. We both lied down for kissing, after 10 minutes, she went down.

Opened Condom for BJ. I said no, do it without it. She agreed and started BJ, but in 2 minutes she stopped, maybe she didn't like it and directly went for woman on top position without condom. I told her that no condom for BJ. But please wear it for sex. But she can't understand a single word of English.

Well she went on, but after the first stroke my gear was out. She again tried but same thing again. For the 3rd time she inserted, but same old story.

Now I was into 2 doubts, either she is unaware of sex or she is doing it deliberately.

The 4th time she inserted, I hold her legs and started moving it in slow positions.

Than things went smooth enough, after changing some positions. I went for dog style for climax.

The whole act was without safety. God dammit raw.

Damage 365 K + Tips 350 K.

Went to Classic Terminal 2.

The moment I entered I always turn right and take a table in the end to drink some beer. Ordered a bottle after 5 minutes Rini the girl which I took 2 days before with Nimsa for 3 some came on my table. Started kissing me a lot. Requested me to take her and if I agreed, than she guaranteed a better show. I told that can't go with her alone. She called Nimas immediately. So again the pair were with me together.

After 30 minutes on table with both kissing me and dancing, we went to the room.

The beautiful girl named Nimas again same style of seducing me on the music track, but this time went a little longer, while dancing I stripped her step by step. Than they both showered me. Kissing one girl while other girl was cleaning my gear.

After drying myself we all started the bed scene.

Started deep throat one girl while other giving me BJ.

Now this time it was without condom.

Then changed position vice versa.

Carried for 30 minutes.

After BJ one started woman on top position, other kissed me.

Changed positions same way for 30 minutes.

(For guys who are new to 3 some make sure woman on top position only last for 5 minutes.

Please keep changing girls every 5 minutes.).

Well before entering the room Rini promised me something different so she asked me, that should she end the show.

I agreed and the action of her was so hard on me that I exploded in a better way.

What a threesome it was.

Now I am sorry guys but this time I paid both the girls 400 K tips.

I am not a good tipper but they forced my mind to do it.

Damage 555 k plus 800 k tips.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2069997]Is it better than the Bintang Baru?[/QUOTE]Hahahaha! At least the bathroom at Sheraton Gancit was better!

[QUOTE=Womaniszer;2070177] .... Damage 555 k plus 800 k tips.[/QUOTE]Nothing wrong with giving a nice tip for good service. 100 k for each girl is decent. 200 k each is a great tip.

It's good that you had a great time at Classic 2. Check out the one on the 5th floor.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2069020]That being said, I've never given as much as 500 k at any time. I've probably been pulled over 20 times in 20 years. Half of those times, they let me off without paying anything even though I did not have a passport. The rest of the times I paid 100 k with the exception of 1 time where I had to pay 300 k.[/QUOTE]Yes, I guess it would not have helped me even if I would have had my passport with me. Those guys would have. Ome up with some other excuse to earn a bit money from a bule tourist.

I offered the cop first 200 k. He just laughed. Then he asked me how much money I had with me. Well I had around 2 M in my wallet. Being in a crap situation in a dark foreign country I did not want to begin to play games with the cop. So I gave him 300 k more. Luckily he accepted and did not take my wallet and check the contents. I could have lost a lot more cash. 500 k was not a big loss for me since I got out of the situation and back to my hotel safely.

[QUOTE=Womaniszer;2070177]
Damage 555 k plus 800 k tips.

Damage 365 K + Tips 350 K. [/QUOTE]You may be the biggest tipper in the history of Hotel Classic.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2070418]Nothing wrong with giving a nice tip for good service. 100 k for each girl is decent. 200 k each is a great tip.

It's good that you had a great time at Classic 2. Check out the one on the 5th floor.[/QUOTE]Nothing wrong giving more tips than the original payment? Where on earth does this happen?

50 k tip is more than enough. That s already 10%.

And you want this guy to do the same on 5th floor? I agree with Smoothy on this guy being the biggest tipper and the dumbest for sure.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2070424]You may be the biggest tipper in the history of Hotel Classic.[/QUOTE]I am a regular player. But sometimes situation is different. When some girls open up themselves to us and allow everything we want. Than higher tips has to be paid otherwise it would be disrespectful.

I appeal to members that, please try out in Classic, ask for a threesome, in which both girls has to be involved in act and no rules should be applied. In most cases they will say no, finish with one girl first, than start with other. This not called threesome, I would rather say that it is called a Spectator Act, where you have kept one spectator to see your porn video.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2070424]You may be the biggest tipper in the history of Hotel Classic.[/QUOTE]After my good session with them, they both used to come to my hotel room, in afternoon for 4 days.

Before going to their jobs in Classic.

I paid them 500 K each, for 2 Hours play.

Please check pics of both girls.

[QUOTE=Womaniszer;2070619]After my good session with them, they both used to come to my hotel room, in afternoon for 4 days.

Before going to their jobs in Classic.

I paid them 500 K each, for 2 Hours play.

Please check pics of both girls.[/QUOTE]Then it worked out well for those two. It sounds like you are lucky the other 350k tip girl didn't come to your room though, she sounded like a horrible shag.

In my experience, threesomes at Classic are a disaster and I never ever recommend a threesome at Classic to anyone. I've tried it 5 times and every time was a disappointment. I've had great success with threesomes at other venues, but not at Classic. Then again, service at Classic is usually poor in general (similar to the 350k tip girl you took who gave a poor BJ then wouldn't give good access to her pussy). Glad to hear you found an exception with those two girls in your photos. You may be the biggest tipper I have heard of at Classic, but I have a friend who always tips the girls at Malioboro 1 million rupiah in hopes that they will meet him on their days off. He says it works about 1 out of 10 times.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2070707]Then it worked out well for those two.[/QUOTE]Thanks respected Sir Smoothy for confirming that at cheap place like Classic, it's hard to get a good+proper threesome. Girls over there even don't allow kiss as if they have came from heaven.

Well in such bad conditions these 2 girls gave me a good service. So I tipped them heavily.

As I have said before I am regular sex tourist. I fly to Pattaya and Jakarta every 3 months. I always Tip according to services.

One more thing I want to add, I been going Thailand from last 3 years, I can speak Thai now.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=SimplyTheBest;2070563]Nothing wrong giving more tips than the original payment? Where on earth does this happen?
50 k tip is more than enough. That s already 10%.
And you want this guy to do the same on 5th floor? I agree with Smoothy on this guy being the biggest tipper and the dumbest for sure.[/QUOTE]Nowhere did I suggest that I agree with giving more than the original price. You need to read my post again if that's what you got out it. Because you are way off. I know that 50 - 100 k is an average tip. With 100 being a 'nice' tip. That's what I said.

I told the newby, it's nothing wrong with giving a 'nice' tip for good service. Then I explained, in a nice way without being a jerk, that 100 k is a 'decent' tip. And that 200 k would be considered a 'great' tip. In other words, trying to let him know what a decent tip is in Jakarta so he can make his own adjustments. Get it now?

Sampled the stock at CJ's last night.

When I first walked in I was latched onto by a lady old enough to be my grandmother who was truly a pain in the butt. I just couldn't shake her off. Eventually some younger ladies came to my aid and I ended up hooking up with a decent prospect who valued my personal space. Details of the evening replicates most reports from CJ's ladies here on this forum. Nothing different from me I'm afraid.

Cost of the lady was 1. 5 million rupees for what was supposed to be 2 hours of fun, but I released her after 90 minutes as she was trying to stay overnight. I'm a big fan of the theory that you don't pay these ladies to fuck, you pay them to leave. Thanks Charlie Sheen I believe, or am I thinking of someone else?

As a side note, one of the ladies at CJ's tried to elicit 7 million rupees from me for a ST session. When I pissed myself laughing at her she kept reducing her fee one million at a time. By the time I got her down to two million I'd had a gutful of her and moved her on. I've established that the current ST price for CJ's ladies is between 1. 3 to 2 million. Happy hunting.

Styk.

[QUOTE=Stykler;2070914]Thanks Charlie Sheen I believe, or am I thinking of someone else?

As a side note, one of the ladies at CJ's tried to elicit 7 million rupees from me for a ST session. When I pissed myself laughing at her she kept reducing her fee one million at a time. [/QUOTE]Yes, it was Charlie Sheen. I agree, I don't often want the girls hanging around all night, especially if I have work the next day.

7 million, wow, can't blame her for trying. Maybe she has tried it on before and somebody got her down to 4 million and thought they had a bargain. You do read some crazy stories every now and then about people paying way too much.

[QUOTE=Stykler;2070914]I've established that the current ST price for CJ's ladies is between 1. 3 to 2 million.[/QUOTE]On any given night, there are normally only about 10 girls worthy of taking home. Of those, I think the price is between 1 million to 3 million depending on the girl and the night of the week. On nights when there are very few guys and lots of girls, their price drops. On nights when it's a sausage fest, their price increases. Believe it or not, there are a few girls who go there who won't take less than 3 million. They are rare and usually not Indonesian (although there are a couple of Indo girls who think they fall into that category). They are not there every night, but they are there on occasion. For those who know the few extremely popular and stunning Indo girls who reside in Bali and have had the huge boob jobs, those girls ask for that much when they are in town. There was a Colombian girl in CJs a couple of years ago who wanted 3 million and she was absolutely worth it because she was far superior to any girl I've ever seen in CJs. I turned her down the one night I spoke with her thinking that was too much, but then the next night I decided maybe I'd do it. However, I didn't get a chance to take her because the cue of guys wanting to take her was too long. I never got her attention again. Recently, I had a girl from Iran ask me for 3 million after bargaining and would not go lower (she started at 7 million). She was absolutely stunning and looked very similar to Kim Kardashian, but I took a pass. She was not as hot at the Colombian, but she was extremely hot.

In my experience, once you take a girl from CJs, her price will drop the next time if you aren't too demanding in bed and she likes you. I've taken stunning Indo girls for 1. 5 or 2 million the first time then given them 1 million or even 800 k the times after that. I find that if they come to my place directly rather than meeting in CJs, they will take less money. Once I've gotten to know them, I've also taken a few to Bali and paid them no cash at all to join me on the trip, I just paid airfare and expenses.

Where would be a good place to exchange cash (EUR) into IDR in the vicinity of Santika Premiere on Hayam Wuruk? Preferrably one that's open late. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5;2071447]Where would be a good place to exchange cash (EUR) into IDR in the vicinity of Santika Premiere on Hayam Wuruk? Preferrably one that's open late. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Theres three money changers in a cluster where jl Mangga Besar meets Hayam Wuruk. Check therate on [URL]xl.com[/URL]. They are usually very close to XL rate for large amounts of say $800 US or more. If you say best it means you want their best price. They are pretty good because they know their competition is two doors down.

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5;2071447]Where would be a good place to exchange cash (EUR) into IDR in the vicinity of Santika Premiere on Hayam Wuruk? Preferrably one that's open late. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Bring a little cash and use the ATM's instead. I'm sure other members can tell you which ATM¨s can give more than 3 million Rp if you need large amounts.

The concept of deposit seems pretty widespread in Jakarta if you are sourcing ladies on twitter or even facebook. Has anybody got any success stories using this system? Or failure stories?. Certainly facebook seems to have a few sad sack posts of those who have paid DP and got nothing but the #jakartaangels or #bisyarjakarta, #bispakjakarta seem to be predominantly deposit girls. There must be some order to the system.

OS doesn't like deposits but I can see the girls logic as getting jerked around with no shows and dodgy Indo boys would get you down I am sure.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2059848]Great report! Thanks for the info. It's truly sad that Maribaya has closed. I had some great times there over the years.

I find it hard to believe that anyone will be paying 250 k just to enter the VIP room at DS place, but I am curious what they've done. Unfortunately, I am guessing the girls are the same they have had for the past 10 years or so.[/QUOTE]If they have separate booths or if your payment affords you solo entrance to the VIP room they have destroyed one of the main attractions of the room.

It was exactly the seediness of the affair, with 2 or 3 people getting a blowjob or fucking one of the dancers in fairly full view of the other visitors, that was the unique "selling" point. This is self-destruction of an excellent business model.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2020476]Agreed. I find Jakarta to be one of the safest cities in the world as far as theft. The chances of getting robbed or pick pocketed in Jakarta anywhere other than on the busway are minimal. However, it's always prudent to avoid flashing expensive jewelry or cash anywhere in the world.
<SNIP>[/QUOTE]I agree, but sometimes the unexpected happens. Two weeks ago I was sitting in a taxi in the evening, waiting for the light to turn green. A motorcycle stops and the two guys on it hold a brief discussion, after which the passenger steps off and walks towards the car in front of my taxi. Then he grabs inside, I hear a girl screaming and the guy runs back to the bike. I see something with a light in his hand, so I guess he nicked a smartphone. The girl jumps out of the car, but the guy has already jumped back on the bike and they speed off. No chance of ever catching them with a car.

I guess the girl was doing something with her phone with the window open. It probably lasted less than 10 seconds.

Hi folks,

I will be dropping in to Jakarta for a couple of days from Singapore on a work trip.

Am staying at the Kempinski, assuming they don't have any bar from where one can pick up women. Are there any bars or massage places in the adjoining mall?

My friend from Singapore have asked me to try out Illegals and Alexis. Hope they are close to the area where I am staying.

Grateful if I can get any more recommendations for places close by. Would prefer a spa / massage / fishbowl type placed as opposed to pick up bars as I don't want to risk taking any women to my hotel (colleagues staying at the same place).

Look forward to hearing from you guys.

Thanks in advance.

A.

I am really sorry to ask this question, on this forum.

But the motive was that, if there are some members who might be aware, than they can help me.

I am going New York for 7 days tomorrow. Does anyone have contacts, so that I don't come empty handed.

[QUOTE=Anilm84;2072191] Am staying at the Kempinski, assuming they don't have any bar from where one can pick up women. Are there any bars or massage places in the adjoining mall?

My friend from Singapore have asked me to try out Illegals and Alexis. Hope they are close to the area where I am staying. [/QUOTE]I think Alexis is in North Jakarta, Kempinski in in central Jakarta. The Hyatt across the road has a bar called Burgundy, which is frequented by WG's. Don't try to pick up the customer srervice girls who work there, they are not P4 P. If you go there the WG's will find you.

I'm not sure what else is around there, there used to be some places not far but I think they have gone. There are plenty of bars in the mall attached, Paulaner is great for beer and food, but none of the bars have WGs.

[QUOTE=Anilm84;2072191]Hi folks,

I will be dropping in to Jakarta for a couple of days from Singapore on a work trip.

Am staying at the Kempinski, assuming they don't have any bar from where one can pick up women. Are there any bars or massage places in the adjoining mall?

My friend from Singapore have asked me to try out Illegals and Alexis. Hope they are close to the area where I am staying.

Grateful if I can get any more recommendations for places close by. Would prefer a spa / massage / fishbowl type placed as opposed to pick up bars as I don't want to risk taking any women to my hotel (colleagues staying at the same place).

Look forward to hearing from you guys.

Thanks in advance.

A.[/QUOTE]There is not much right around the Kempinski. But you have a straight shot up Thamrin (which changes its name to Jalan Hayam Wuruk as you proceed north) to Malioboro / Malio Club and Illigals, the former being the more popular. Depending on time of day and traffic the trip would take somewhere between 15 minutes and 45 minutes by taxi. Alexis is further north than Malioboro or Illigals, and only worth the added trip if you want to visit the most expensive brothel (at least among those easily accessible to the general public) in Jakarta; actually there may be one or two others owned by the same group that are equally expensive although I'm not sure about this.

My recommendation would be to first try Malioboro and perhaps Malio Club immediately next door (further in the complex), and if that doesn't work for you (or you have extra time) Illigals (which is rather close to Malioboro) and / or Alexis.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2071745]The concept of deposit seems pretty widespread in Jakarta if you are sourcing ladies on twitter or even facebook. Has anybody got any success stories using this system? Or failure stories?. Certainly facebook seems to have a few sad sack posts of those who have paid DP and got nothing but the #jakartaangels or #bisyarjakarta, #bispakjakarta seem to be predominantly deposit girls. There must be some order to the system.

OS doesn't like deposits but I can see the girls logic as getting jerked around with no shows and dodgy Indo boys would get you down I am sure.[/QUOTE]I too am curious about this. Are there any DP success stories out there? That's deposit, not double pen.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;2072515]There is not much right around the Kempinski. But you have a straight shot up Thamrin (which changes its name to Jalan Hayam Wuruk as you proceed north) to Malioboro / Malio Club and Illigals, the former being the more popular. Depending on time of day and traffic the trip would take somewhere between 15 minutes and 45 minutes by taxi. Alexis is further north than Malioboro or Illigals, and only worth the added trip if you want to visit the most expensive brothel (at least among those easily accessible to the general public) in Jakarta; actually there may be one or two others owned by the same group that are equally expensive although I'm not sure about this.

My recommendation would be to first try Malioboro and perhaps Malio Club immediately next door (further in the complex), and if that doesn't work for you (or you have extra time) Illigals (which is rather close to Malioboro) and / or Alexis.[/QUOTE]Immigrant is quite close by, walking distance, if you must.

Or head southwards to visit BATS at Shangri La or CJ's at Mulia or X2 at Plaza Senayan. I think Red Square is also near Plaza Senayan, if it has reopened?

[QUOTE=Anilm84;2072191]Hi folks,

I will be dropping in to Jakarta for a couple of days from Singapore on a work trip.

Am staying at the Kempinski, assuming they don't have any bar from where one can pick up women. Are there any bars or massage places in the adjoining mall?

My friend from Singapore have asked me to try out Illegals and Alexis. Hope they are close to the area where I am staying.

Grateful if I can get any more recommendations for places close by. Would prefer a spa / massage / fishbowl type placed as opposed to pick up bars as I don't want to risk taking any women to my hotel (colleagues staying at the same place).

Look forward to hearing from you guys.

Thanks in advance.

A.[/QUOTE]While I have also responded to the thread with suggestions, I must call this BM out for not doing his homework. A quick search on Google can get you a list of bars / clubs in Jakarta. Another quick use of Google Maps will let you estimate what is close by and what is far.

Should take less than 20 minutes. But instead, like a typical "manager" you choose to simply come here and ask questions. See'Mon. Mate. RTFF.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2072598]While I have also responded to the thread with suggestions, I must call this BM out for not doing his homework. A quick search on Google can get you a list of bars / clubs in Jakarta. Another quick use of Google Maps will let you estimate what is close by and what is far.

Should take less than 20 minutes. But instead, like a typical "manager" you choose to simply come here and ask questions. See'Mon. Mate. RTFF.[/QUOTE]This is becoming an all too common occurrence here on ISG: mongers refusing to RTFF and writing posts indicating they want other mongers to do the work for them. Hell, in the Medellin forum, I actually saw a post that read "I'm too lazy to read the forum, so who / what / when / where / how blah blah blah." Makes me wonder sometimes why I write the types of reports that I do on ISG.

Speaking of reports, thanks to all of you who have written reports and contributed pictures here in the Jakarta forum. Because of your reports and pictures, you've put Jakarta higher up on my travel radar. It might be a year before I can get there, but I definitely want to get there just the same.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2072596]Immigrant is quite close by, walking distance, if you must.

Or head southwards to visit BATS at Shangri La or CJ's at Mulia or X2 at Plaza Senayan. I think Red Square is also near Plaza Senayan, if it has reopened?[/QUOTE]Perhaps I should have been clearer in that I was responding to that portion of the OP's post that stated "Would prefer a spa / massage / fishbowl type placed as opposed to pick up bars as I don't want to risk taking any women to my hotel (colleagues staying at the same place)." But sure, there are pickup places, including those with a lot of working girls, closer to the Kempinski than the spas and on-site venues I mentioned.

[QUOTE=KoperenKlaas;2071891]If they have separate booths or if your payment affords you solo entrance to the VIP room they have destroyed one of the main attractions of the room.
It was exactly the seediness of the affair, with 2 or 3 people getting a blowjob or fucking one of the dancers in fairly full view of the other visitors, that was the unique "selling" point. This is self-destruction of an excellent business model.[/QUOTE]So they will lose customers and money.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2072598]While I have also responded to the thread with suggestions, I must call this BM out for not doing his homework. A quick search on Google can get you a list of bars / clubs in Jakarta. Another quick use of Google Maps will let you estimate what is close by and what is far.

Should take less than 20 minutes. But instead, like a typical "manager" you choose to simply come here and ask questions. See'Mon. Mate. RTFF.[/QUOTE]Ignore his stupid, lazy, lack of homework questions. This is when RTFF comes to life.

Hello all,

I am silent reader of ISG and never travelled to Indonesia, but company has conference in Bali in November and after reading post and advice I found that Indonesia has got good mongering option and I seek some guidance as its new territory.

I have subscribed to Badoo and use fake GPS app and post myself I am near Block M in Jakarta and I have managed to get many girls saying Hi and ready to ML (make love), few of them openely asked me how much I can pay, I just said IDR 500 K for short time and there is a reluctant and one 40 years girls was ready to spend whole night for IDR 800 K. So I can say Badoo is a good start.

-So my question is I have 4 (Sat to Tuesday) days to spare between Jakarta and Bali and then 3 days conference in Bali, so guys what do you suggest which is a mongering destination where you get decent girls for the price.

- What amount should I offer and that should be reasonable amount for ST and LT for whole night as I don't want to spoil the market.

- If I have stay in Jakarta what hotel or location should I choose in price range of $70 to $100 per night;.

- Is Badoo is good enough or should I also look out for free lancer or in clubs or any other contact app you think is better option.

- I know Nov is too far off time, so by what period should I contact girls and start firming up price and appointment;.

- I don't want to monger in Bali since there will be more then 30 of our company people will be around and I don't have to get caught so want to keep low profile in bali but if the option is very good in Bali then I can take some risk.

- I have read Villa + 12 hours escort package for you $ 250 balivilla is this a value for the money, as they need minimum 3 days booking.

I have done research as much as possible but now I am confused and hence I need your help / guidance what ever possible.

By the way I am visiting from Australia.

Thanks you all in advance.

Dear members of the Jakarta forum,

Thanks for the tips and suggestions in response to my earlier post.

I would also like to clarify a few things:

- Apologies if anyone felt I was being lazy. I spend a good amount of time reading the respective forums before visiting a city. I had read about places like Alexis, Maliboro, Kings Cross, Sumo etc and was planning to try out a few, my main concern was the location and it's proximity and also wanting to find out if there is any other place closer which I hadn't heard of. Sorry if I didn't frame my question properly.

- I have always contributed with FRs in every city I have visited to date (Ahmedabad, Singapore, Dubai, Bangkok) and will definitely do the same here after my visit next week.

I always value the guidance and tips received from the ISG family and want to reassure anyone here who thinks that I am a freeloader that I am not!

Once again thanks for the guidance and apologies if I came across as lazy.

Do let me know if any of you are ever visiting Singapore or Dubai, will try to offer advice from my limited experience in those places.

[QUOTE=Sydpat;2072826]Hello all,

I am silent reader of ISG and never travelled to Indonesia, but company has conference in Bali in November and after reading post and advice I found that Indonesia has got good mongering option and I seek some guidance as its new territory.

I have subscribed to Badoo and use fake GPS app and post myself I am near Block M in Jakarta and I have managed to get many girls saying Hi and ready to ML (make love), few of them openely asked me how much I can pay, I just said IDR 500 K for short time and there is a reluctant and one 40 years girls was ready to spend whole night for IDR 800 K. So I can say Badoo is a good start.

-So my question is I have 4 (Sat to Tuesday) days to spare between Jakarta and Bali and then 3 days conference in Bali, so guys what do you suggest which is a mongering destination where you get decent girls for the price.

- What amount should I offer and that should be reasonable amount for ST and LT for whole night as I don't want to spoil the market.

- If I have stay in Jakarta what hotel or location should I choose in price range of $70 to $100 per night;.

- Is Badoo is good enough or should I also look out for free lancer or in clubs or any other contact app you think is better option.

- I know Nov is too far off time, so by what period should I contact girls and start firming up price and appointment;..[/QUOTE]Hi mate,

Last year I had 3 free days in Bali and did great with Badoo and also Tagged.

November will be here before you know it and if you start to get a feel for the girls you can score some pretty good freebies thru both of these sites.

Obviously being on a conference you will be staying at the same hotel as your colleagues so why don't you find a cheap hotel or even 3 (just in case the girls get clingy) the other side of the area you are staying at just for your tryst? For example if your conference is at Jimbaran get a room at Seminyak.

Be careful of the Balivilla offer, I haven't used it but I have read somewhere it is a bit of a ripoff.

The nightlife area in Bali is spread out so you should be able to dodge your workmates and you should listen to where they are going and go to a different area.

Try backpage Bali for escorts if you want to be discreet.

If you take a FL make sure your Hotel has good security and collects their ID.

I hope this helps a fellow Aussie.

Rob.

[QUOTE=Anilm84;2073004]Dear members of the Jakarta forum,

Thanks for the tips and suggestions in response to my earlier post.

I would also like to clarify a few things:

- Apologies if anyone felt I was being lazy. I spend a good amount of time reading the respective forums before visiting a city. I had read about places like Alexis, Maliboro, Kings Cross, Sumo etc and was planning to try out a few, my main concern was the location and it's proximity and also wanting to find out if there is any other place closer which I hadn't heard of. Sorry if I didn't frame my question properly.

- I have always contributed with FRs in every city I have visited to date (Ahmedabad, Singapore, Dubai, Bangkok) and will definitely do the same here after my visit next week.

I always value the guidance and tips received from the ISG family and want to reassure anyone here who thinks that I am a freeloader that I am not!

Once again thanks for the guidance and apologies if I came across as lazy.

Do let me know if any of you are ever visiting Singapore or Dubai, will try to offer advice from my limited experience in those places.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. When the brouhaha started I spent around four or five minutes checking out your previous posts and saw you have contributed numerous useful field reports. It is both funny and sad that those who were quick to accuse you of laziness were too lazy themselves to spend the few minutes necessary to do the same before hurling invectives at you. And posting an answer to the question what recommended places are near a particular hotel takes about the same amount of time as writing a post insulting someone for asking the question. And then when someone later attempts to RTFF, they will see actual information rather than have to wade around a bunch of gratuitous comments that contain no useful information and make it tedious to RTTF.

[QUOTE=Menteng;2071728]Bring a little cash and use the ATM's instead. I'm sure other members can tell you which ATMs can give more than 3 million Rp if you need large amounts.[/QUOTE]Danamon is one of my favourites. Max. 3 million per withdrawal but you can do more than one withdrawal at a time. Don't know how many times you can repeat per day.

BCA also works fine for me (2 million per withdrawal), but HSBC always refused my card.

[QUOTE=KoperenKlaas;2073491] Don't know how many times you can repeat per day.[/QUOTE]As many as you like until you reach your home bank's daily limit. Typically $1000.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2065802]I went to the pharmacy yesterday and they tell me there is a new law that a prescription is needed for any antibiotics now. Who has the time to go to the doctor to get a prescription? Does anyone know a place still selling over the counter antibiotics?[/QUOTE]There are a few pharmacies ("apoteks") in Agus Salim.

It is the street that runs behind the Djakarta Theatre building, close to Sarinah.

Though I did hear a voice back in the shop say something about a "resep", they sold me without a prescription nevertheless.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2073535]As many as you like until you reach your home bank's daily limit. Typically $1000.[/QUOTE]With USD 1000 / day you can have a lot of fun.

[QUOTE=Anilm84;2072191]Hi folks,

I will be dropping in to Jakarta for a couple of days from Singapore on a work trip.

Am staying at the Kempinski, assuming they don't have any bar from where one can pick up women. Are there any bars or massage places in the adjoining mall?

My friend from Singapore have asked me to try out Illegals and Alexis. Hope they are close to the area where I am staying.

Grateful if I can get any more recommendations for places close by. Would prefer a spa / massage / fishbowl type placed as opposed to pick up bars as I don't want to risk taking any women to my hotel (colleagues staying at the same place).

Look forward to hearing from you guys.

Thanks in advance.

A.[/QUOTE]I have stayed and will be staying at Kempinski in my next visit. You can visit Bats and Cj's on one side and Malio and Alexis on the other. Not very close but taxis readily available. According to your preference Alexis and Maliboro should be good options. As you don't want to get girls into the hotel. Both are pretty expensive though. If you are looking to spend most of your night try the dance clubs at these locations before you go for the session.

[QUOTE=Raghavan26;1985795]Thanks for the reply. Coming to Freelancers I heard the free lancers there are risky. So are there another alternative places suggested would be good.

Tourist places I checked but didn't find any at all. Which interests me during the day. So though of asking you guys.

Thanks I would consider a hotel only in Central Jakarta.

And for sure I will post my review and rates.[/QUOTE]Still waiting, or are you just a one-handed typist?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2008921]Nothing has changed in the last 15 years, let alone the last 4. The only change is the price has increased.[/QUOTE]And the walk of shame is still completely imaginary.

[QUOTE=Anilm84;2072191]Hi folks,

I will be dropping in to Jakarta for a couple of days from Singapore on a work trip.

Am staying at the Kempinski, assuming they don't have any bar from where one can pick up women. Are there any bars or massage places in the adjoining mall?

My friend from Singapore have asked me to try out Illegals and Alexis. Hope they are close to the area where I am staying.

Grateful if I can get any more recommendations for places close by. Would prefer a spa / massage / fishbowl type placed as opposed to pick up bars as I don't want to risk taking any women to my hotel (colleagues staying at the same place).

Look forward to hearing from you guys.

Thanks in advance.

A.[/QUOTE]I stayed at Grand Hyatt which is in the mall across from the Kempinski. Visited Alexis hotel which took about an hour by taxi (man, people warn you about Jakarta traffic but you have to experience it to believe it). You can call it an open air fishbowl with Viets, Indos, Thais and CISC girls. Quality ranges from 6's to the 9's. I sampled a really pretty Viet (number 159, I believe). She tried to please but the whole experience was a bit mechanical. Still, to be with such a stunner more than made up for it. I was there at about 6 on a Friday and the action was just starting up. Was also there next day at about the same time and it was well under way so I would suggest getting there much earlier on Saturday. Malio is on the way to Alexis but I didn't visit. Taxis are safe and reliable (Bluebird and associated more expensive Silverbird brands are the most reputable) and the drivers are polite to friendly though they don't speak much English, so don't be intimidated to use them. I took the highway toll route on the way back to save time even though it cost a bit more.

Indonesia Mall in which the Grand Hyatt is located has Immigrants on the top floor which is basically a pick-up joint. Entry is right next to the restaurant / bar with the same name which I mistook for the real deal and ordered a drink at the bar. The bar tender discreetly told me that what I was looking for was next door! Still, as I was sitting at the bar, a pretty girl who was hovering around the hostess desk sat next to me and smiled. I couldn't guess whether she had more than a smile on her mind so I just smiled back and went next door after the drink. I was there much before the action which starts at about midnight (at least on Saturday). As it picked up, I noticed that the same girl from the restaurant was there too. There were lots of girls looking to provide company though I didn't sample. They ranged from 5-6's to at least one 10 and a couple of guys worked on her on the dance floor throughout the time I was there trying to wear her demands down (lots of head-shaking attested to that) while plying her with drinks. It looked like it was working but I left at about 2 as I had to catch a early flight out. If you're looking for company, you should find it there. There is also the Burgundy bar / resto on the ground floor. I didn't notice an overt soliciting and there were a number of single girls but given my experience at the Immigrants restaurant I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were available.

[QUOTE=KoperenKlaas;2074263]And the walk of shame is still completely imaginary.[/QUOTE]Unless you are staying at the Dharmawangsa.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2074497]Unless you are staying at the Dharmawangsa.[/QUOTE]Looked at their site and it looked like a pretty good hotel, but I'm not impressed by their location.

Are they girl-unfriendly?

[QUOTE=KoperenKlaas;2074637]Looked at their site and it looked like a pretty good hotel, but I'm not impressed by their location.

Are they girl-unfriendly?[/QUOTE]It's girl friendly. The hotel won't complain about the girls, but the older Indonesian women staying there will. It's a true walk of shame taking girls there.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2074714]It's girl friendly. The hotel won't complain about the girls, but the older Indonesian women staying there will. It's a true walk of shame taking girls there.[/QUOTE]Your conversation made me curious, because years ago it was the most expensive hotel in Jakarta or even in Indonesia. Rooms were from 3500 dollars to 5000 dollars (US) per night. So I googled and found out that for a couple of hundred bucks you can get a room!

[QUOTE=Menteng;2075166]Your conversation made me curious, because years ago it was the most expensive hotel in Jakarta or even in Indonesia. Rooms were from 3500 dollars to 5000 dollars (US) per night. So I googled and found out that for a couple of hundred bucks you can get a room![/QUOTE]The rooms there are not that great. If there were ever any rooms for 3500 to 5000 a night, that must have been a huge suite. Nobody would have paid that for the regular rooms there.

Will be in Jakarta from Aug 29th onwards for a week. Any fellow monger bro there at that time and interested in some joint hunting together may inbox me.

Cheers.

Dude,

You don't need to go as far as Jakarta but try the batam scene close to Singapore 30 minute ferry ride so is Bintan island both Malaysian.

[QUOTE=Anilm84;2072191]Hi folks,

I will be dropping in to Jakarta for a couple of days from Singapore on a work trip.

Am staying at the Kempinski, assuming they don't have any bar from where one can pick up women. Are there any bars or massage places in the adjoining mall?

My friend from Singapore have asked me to try out Illegals and Alexis. Hope they are close to the area where I am staying..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2075220]The rooms there are not that great. If there were ever any rooms for 3500 to 5000 a night, that must have been a huge suite. Nobody would have paid that for the regular rooms there.[/QUOTE]Menteng may be talking about the Dhamawangsa Residences. They had / have some very nice apartments that would likely go for those prices per month.

[QUOTE=Grebe925;2074294]I stayed at Grand Hyatt which is in the mall across from the Kempinski. Visited Alexis hotel which took about an hour by taxi (man, people warn you about Jakarta traffic but you have to experience it to believe it). You can call it an open air fishbowl with Viets, Indos, Thais and CISC girls. Quality ranges from 6's to the 9's. I sampled a really pretty Viet (number 159, I believe). She tried to please but the whole experience was a bit mechanical. Still, to be with such a stunner more than made up for it. I was there at about 6 on a Friday and the action was just starting up. Was also there next day at about the same time and it was well under way so I would suggest getting there much earlier on Saturday. Malio is on the way to Alexis but I didn't visit. Taxis are safe and reliable (Bluebird and associated more expensive Silverbird brands are the most reputable) and the drivers are polite to friendly though they don't speak much English, so don't be intimidated to use them. I took the highway toll route on the way back to save time even though it cost a bit more.

Indonesia Mall in which the Grand Hyatt is located has Immigrants on the top floor which is basically a pick-up joint. Entry is right next to the restaurant / bar with the same name which I mistook for the real deal and ordered a drink at the bar. The bar tender discreetly told me that what I was looking for was next door! Still, as I was sitting at the bar, a pretty girl who was hovering around the hostess desk sat next to me and smiled. I couldn't guess whether she had more than a smile on her mind so I just smiled back and went next door after the drink. I was there much before the action which starts at about midnight (at least on Saturday). As it picked up, I noticed that the same girl from the restaurant was there too. There were lots of girls looking to provide company though I didn't sample. They ranged from 5-6's to at least one 10 and a couple of guys worked on her on the dance floor throughout the time I was there trying to wear her demands down (lots of head-shaking attested to that) while plying her with drinks. It looked like it was working but I left at about 2 as I had to catch a early flight out. If you're looking for company, you should find it there. There is also the Burgundy bar / resto on the ground floor. I didn't notice an overt soliciting and there were a number of single girls but given my experience at the Immigrants restaurant I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were available.[/QUOTE]Are there any issues in taking a girl to your room at Grand Hyatt? I will be there this weekend.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2073535]As many as you like until you reach your home bank's daily limit. Typically $1000.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=KoperenKlaas;2073491]Danamon is one of my favourites. Max. 3 million per withdrawal but you can do more than one withdrawal at a time. Don't know how many times you can repeat per day.

BCA also works fine for me (2 million per withdrawal), but HSBC always refused my card.[/QUOTE]FWIW, the limit is for a 24 hour period, midnight to midnight in the time zone of your bank. You need to have a 4 digit PIN only and you need to have your bank allow foreign transactions for some banks. Also some ATMs have a max limit of the currency bill. I like 100 ks.

[QUOTE=OldSnake;2075337]Dude,

You don't need to go as far as Jakarta but try the batam scene close to Singapore 30 minute ferry ride so is Bintan island both Malaysian.[/QUOTE]To Oldsnake.

Mongering is very limited in Quality and options in Batam Jakarta is only a short flight from Singapore and ticket is cheap, if you only have a few day then Batam is a good options ferry ride is more like an HR not 30 min and immigration take forever on weekend.

Fast Eddie 48.

Landed at around 2. Was booked at the Kempinski, took about an hour to reach. Freshened up and called an Uber to take me to Alexis. The traffic had just started to build up and I reached in approximately an hour.

It is one of the fanciest places I have visited. Took the token bracelet and headed to change, was directed to the fishbowl where a guy dutifully paraded the available selections in local, Chinese, Vietnamese, Thai and Russians / eastern Europeans. The locals were all in the 6-7 range so skipped. Picked a really pretty looking Viet. She took me to the pool area. We sat in one of those enclosures for a bit and cosied up before heading to the heated pool (there are 3 of them, one is damn cold! She gave me a shoulder rub and then slid her body against mine for a bit. She had soft and flawless skin, which really turned me on! I was hard and ready to go at her so we headed to the room.

The room was large and well maintained. Took our showers, she dutifully gave me a thorough cleansing. Moved to the bed and started kissing me all over, wouldn't allow DFK which was the only sore spot of the evening. Gave a good BBBJ and then started riding me. Switched to doggy, then sideways and finally came in mish. She was responsive and enthusiastic.

Showered again and left. Total damages, 2.3 M for the girl, 200 k to the girl as tip and 150 k as entrance.

2. 3 M for just one shot (90 minutes total) is really expensive. The place gets a little crowded in the evening but the selection pool is large. Worth trying if you want assured quality, a good ambiance and are ready to pay a premium.

Going back to the hotel in the peak hour traffic was a pain, took me 1 hour 45 minutes and the taxi fare was 100 K! Uber would have been cheaper (took me 40 k to get there) but it was 10 minutes away and I didn't want to take the bike cabs offered by Uber and Grab as I was expecting a few work calls.

Looks: 8.

Boobs: 6.

BBBJ: 9.

Overall: 8.

WIR: Not likely, the place is really expensive plus there are many more places to try out.

Thanks for the FR bro.

Was really looking forward to read some thing about Alexis. About 23.5 m total for a 90 min deal that too without a DFK is really not what I will like when I will be there in a few days. Habitual of getting those 600/700 rmb two hours amazing deals in the saunas of changing in China but yes that's thing of past now. Looking fwd for more frs from you. Try cjs or bats if you like picking gals from clubs and let us know current position there. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Anilm84;2075785]Landed at around 2. Was booked at the Kempinski, took about an hour to reach. Freshened up and called an Uber to take me to Alexis. The traffic had just started to build up and I reached in approximately an hour.

It is one of the fanciest places I have visited. Took the token bracelet and headed to change, was directed to the fishbowl where a guy dutifully paraded the available selections in local, Chinese, Vietnamese, Thai and Russians / eastern Europeans. The locals were all in the 6-7 range so skipped. Picked a really pretty looking Viet. She took me to the pool area. We sat in one of those enclosures for a bit and cosied up before heading to the heated pool (there are 3 of them, one is damn cold! She gave me a shoulder rub and then slid her body against mine for a bit. She had soft and flawless skin, which really turned me on! I was hard and ready to go at her so we headed to the room..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DubyaMan88;2075515]Are there any issues in taking a girl to your room at Grand Hyatt? I will be there this weekend.[/QUOTE]Ensure your wife isn't also in the room.

[QUOTE=UsPete;2075951]Ensure your wife isn't also in the room.[/QUOTE]Nice humour.

Moon Rider Blok M had an anniversary party last night and it was a great time! This is the old Highway to Elle and there isn't much coverage on this bar.

7'ish dancers which were throwing back drinks and interacting with the customers in between dancing on the bar. Some management from Dee's is helping to get the place going. A lot of potential here and a fun party atmosphere.

Great spot to drink a beer and play around with the girls. I will be back.

Hi guys,

Visiting Jakarta soon and would love to find out about some curvy ladies. I'm visiting from Delhi so any mongers traveling there can be helped.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=SetRed;2076650]Hi guys,

Visiting Jakarta soon and would love to find out about some curvy ladies. I'm visiting from Delhi so any mongers traveling there can be helped.

Cheers![/QUOTE]RTFF. This means Read the F...... Forum.

[QUOTE=DirectVoyage;2076526]Moon Rider Blok M had an anniversary party last night and it was a great time! This is the old Highway to Elle and there isn't much coverage on this bar.

7'ish dancers which were throwing back drinks and interacting with the customers in between dancing on the bar. Some management from Dee's is helping to get the place going. A lot of potential here and a fun party atmosphere.

Great spot to drink a beer and play around with the girls. I will be back.[/QUOTE]Last time I was there (in July) the place was like a morgue. Around 10 pm and more staff than clients. No dancers.

I guess they started thinking after they discovered turnover was nearly zero.

[QUOTE=DirectVoyage;2076526]Moon Rider Blok M had an anniversary party last night and it was a great time! This is the old Highway to Elle and there isn't much coverage on this bar.

7'ish dancers which were throwing back drinks and interacting with the customers in between dancing on the bar. Some management from Dee's is helping to get the place going. A lot of potential here and a fun party atmosphere.

Great spot to drink a beer and play around with the girls. I will be back.[/QUOTE]Glad to hear it had a good night. Every time I have been in that place, it's empty so I walk upstairs, look to see it empty, and walk right back out. I'm guessing it's an earlier evening place because I have only looked in there late at night.

[QUOTE=Anilm84;2075785]Going back to the hotel in the peak hour traffic was a pain, took me 1 hour 45 minutes and the taxi fare was 100 K! Uber would have been cheaper (took me 40 k to get there) but it was 10 minutes away and I didn't want to take the bike cabs offered by Uber and Grab as I was expecting a few work calls.[/QUOTE]Next time ask the taxi-driver to take the toll-way back if you're staying at the Kempinski / Grand Hyatt or nearby hotels. The toll itself is 7000 (I think) and you'll be back in 20-30 minutes with the fare being about the same. Well worth it.

I was in Jakarta a few weeks ago and for the first time I visited Classic Hotel. It was on a Tuesday evening.

Although I had RTFF I was still not confident that I knew enough about the place so I winged it anyway. By the way I speak Bahasa Indonesia quite fluently.

I was aware of two levels. Level 2 and level 5. I asked security if there was a third level and they said there wasn't but I think I have read on here there are 3 levels. Need confirmation on this.

The two two levels are much the same anyway. You enter the room on either level and the mamasans come swarming at you.

I was quoted one girl Rp365 K or two girls Rp570 K. The mamasan I was working with assured me I would have great service. I know the advice on here is to only take one but I decided to take the 2 because of the price.

It was much later in the evening before I chose my two girls as I was having a great time with local punters and watching the goings on with the mamasans.

Around 11:00 PM I chose two girls that I'd been watching all evening and was feeling good about my selection. They both looked hot.

Once in the room I realized why it is recommended to only have one girl not two.

The girls were reluctant to do anything except try to get it all over really quickly. They worked as a team against me. The bitches! No suck the tits, no DATY. It was shit. If I had one girl I may have had been able to persuade her to please me.

They would only have one go each on me each but I insisted they change often so they had to reluctantly change condoms (they only had 3) as well as wiping my nipples after each one had sucked it so the other one could suck. Really poor experience.

Instead of having a hard on I had a soft on.

Afterwards, when finished. Probably only 30 minutes or so I reluctantly gave Rp50 K tip to each girl. I should have given them doughnuts but I'm too soft for a pretty face.

I tracked down their mamasan once out of the room and informed her I was very disappointed in their service and held her responsible. She just shrugged her shoulders.

Summary:

I really liked the atmosphere of this place. Just chilling out having a beer and listening to the band, chatting to other punters and the girls and mamasans was very enjoyable.

I'd return again someday but would only take one girl and make sure with the mamasan prior to that. That I'd get what I asked for.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2068345]Well, then you probably won't be too upset to hear that they are supposedly closing Top Gun down in 2 weeks. At least that's the word on the street.
Without Top Gun, I won't visit the Blok at all.[/QUOTE]Dear. MR. Smoothy,

First of all, thank you for your posts and informations in forum. Myself, visiting Jakarta about once a year, can visit more funny places with this forum.

Do you have any more information about Top Gun's current status?? I will visit Jakarta next week, and I will not stay near BlokM area neither if Topgun is not opened. CJ would be alternative option, but Top Gun has it's own fun.

[QUOTE=JohaimJ;2076998]Dear. MR. Smoothy,

First of all, thank you for your posts and informations in forum. Myself, visiting Jakarta about once a year, can visit more funny places with this forum.

Do you have any more information about Top Gun's current status?? I will visit Jakarta next week, and I will not stay near BlokM area neither if Topgun is not opened. CJ would be alternative option, but Top Gun has it's own fun.[/QUOTE]I hear that Top Gun is still open.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2077118]I hear that Top Gun is still open.[/QUOTE]I was in the Blok the last two weekends. I didn't visit Top Gun, but I would think that I would have heard something about a closing from the punters on the ground. (And I did not.).

[QUOTE=Grebe925;2076885]Next time ask the taxi-driver to take the toll-way back if you're staying at the Kempinski / Grand Hyatt or nearby hotels. The toll itself is 7000 (I think) and you'll be back in 20-30 minutes with the fare being about the same. Well worth it.[/QUOTE]That toll is 9500 and probably the worst way to get from Alexis to HI at peak traffic (or any other) times IMHO. You'd barely be passing Pluit in the 20 minutes you claim, then you'd get stuck in traffic from CP until you exit at either Slipi or Semanggi just to continue in more traffic on Mas Mansyur or Sudirman.

Best route would be through Kota Tua and Hayam Wuruk down through Thamrin reaching HI, by car or bike, although you can still get unlucky and get stuck on major traffic on that route. I'd rather take a bike for 20 minutes max and call the work calls back when I reach destination then sit in traffic for nearly 2 hours. Taking the bus would be a quick option too, although not for the faint of heart.

[QUOTE=HihiSter;2077253]That toll is 9500 and probably the worst way to get from Alexis to HI at peak traffic (or any other) times IMHO. You'd barely be passing Pluit in the 20 minutes you claim, then you'd get stuck in traffic from CP until you exit at either Slipi or Semanggi just to continue in more traffic on Mas Mansyur or Sudirman.

Best route would be through Kota Tua and Hayam Wuruk down through Thamrin reaching HI, by car or bike, although you can still get unlucky and get stuck on major traffic on that route. I'd rather take a bike for 20 minutes max and call the work calls back when I reach destination then sit in traffic for nearly 2 hours. Taking the bus would be a quick option too, although not for the faint of heart.[/QUOTE]Well, I came back to the Hyatt at about 9:30 PM on a Friday and a Saturday and both times it was a breeze at about 20-25 minutes via the highway. Getting to Alexis was an hour plus each time on surface roads. Maybe I was lucky.

[QUOTE=Kodja;2076937]I was in Jakarta a few weeks ago and for the first time I visited Classic Hotel. It was on a Tuesday evening.

Although I had RTFF I was still not confident that I knew enough about the place so I winged it anyway. By the way I speak Bahasa Indonesia quite fluently.

I was aware of two levels. Level 2 and level 5. I asked security if there was a third level and they said there wasn't but I think I have read on here there are 3 levels. Need confirmation on this.

The two two levels are much the same anyway. You enter the room on either level and the mamasans come swarming at you.

I was quoted one girl Rp365 K or two girls Rp570 K. The mamasan I was working with assured me I would have great service.

I'd return again someday but would only take one girl and make sure with the mamasan prior to that. That I'd get what I asked for.[/QUOTE]There are 3 levels.

1st is ground floor Spa.

3rd floor Terminal 3.

5th Floor Terminal 5.

365 K for 1 girls and 555 K for 2.

I understand your dissapointment. It happens to a lot of people. But for me Classic is heaven.

Check out my FR's on Classic.

[QUOTE=HihiSter;2077253]That toll is 9500 and probably the worst way to get from Alexis to HI at peak traffic (or any other) times IMHO. You'd barely be passing Pluit in the 20 minutes you claim, then you'd get stuck in traffic from CP until you exit at either Slipi or Semanggi just to continue in more traffic on Mas Mansyur or Sudirman.

Best route would be through Kota Tua and Hayam Wuruk down through Thamrin reaching HI, by car or bike, although you can still get unlucky and get stuck on major traffic on that route. I'd rather take a bike for 20 minutes max and call the work calls back when I reach destination then sit in traffic for nearly 2 hours. Taking the bus would be a quick option too, although not for the faint of heart.[/QUOTE]Hayam Wuruk is usually a nightmare from Kota station until you have passed Harmoni. After that traffic moves slightly less slow until the HI traffic circle but it is still a test of patience. The toll road alternative is not too bad, depending on time of day.

[QUOTE=Kodja;2076937]
I was quoted one girl Rp365 K or two girls Rp570 K. The mamasan I was working with assured me I would have great service. I know the advice on here is to only take one but I decided to take the 2 because of the price.

It was much later in the evening before I chose my two girls as I was having a great time with local punters and watching the goings on with the mamasans.

Around 11:00 PM I chose two girls that I'd been watching all evening and was feeling good about my selection. They both looked hot.

Once in the room I realized why it is recommended to only have one girl not two.

The girls were reluctant to do anything except try to get it all over really quickly. They worked as a team against me. The bitches! No suck the tits, no DATY. It was shit. If I had one girl I may have had been able to persuade her to please me.

They would only have one go each on me each but I insisted they change often so they had to reluctantly change condoms (they only had 3) as well as wiping my nipples after each one had sucked it so the other one could suck. Really poor experience.

Instead of having a hard on I had a soft on.

Afterwards, when finished. Probably only 30 minutes or so I reluctantly gave Rp50 K tip to each girl. I should have given them doughnuts but I'm too soft for a pretty face.

I tracked down their mamasan once out of the room and informed her I was very disappointed in their service and held her responsible. She just shrugged her shoulders.
[/QUOTE]From my experience, that is pretty much the standard crap experience at Hotel Classic when I have taken 2 girls. I have tried it about 10 times over the years and not once have I had a good experience when I've taken 2 there.

[QUOTE=Grebe925;2077440]Well, I came back to the Hyatt at about 9:30 PM on a Friday and a Saturday and both times it was a breeze at about 20-25 minutes via the highway. Getting to Alexis was an hour plus each time on surface roads. Maybe I was lucky.[/QUOTE]True, 9. 30/10 ish the traffic on the toll will have calmed down, but I was talking about peak traffic which would be around 6 pm when that toll is a nightmare.

Rarely talked about here is KTV, my favorite place for both clubbing as well as KTV is Colosseum / 1001 in Kota Tua, West Jakarta. The club has it all, best lighting, best sound, multiple famous international DJ's every month and a lot of very very hot chicks.

There are certain KTV rooms you can book that have balcony's into the club, so you get the best of both worlds; start the evening at 8/9 PM with a line-up and some karaoke and continue clubbing till deep into the night. Line-up for the karaoke is varied, you can get regular Indonesian girls, models as well as imports. Imports are the obvious Chinese and Viets, however depending on the mami / papi Kazachs / Uzbeks, Koreans and Japanese can be arranged. All girls are WELL above average in looks, model category quality is truly exceptional.

I was there with a few buddies last week and we went for the model category, they were 2 jt to accompany you for the night, a minimum tip of 500 k is expected at the end. You are able to bang them as well but for that you'd need to purchase "vouchers", all categories have differently priced vouchers and it seems to depend on the girl how many vouchers she wants to spread her legs. Model category vouchers are 1 jt per piece and the absolute minimum you should expect is 3 vouchers, however it isn't guaranteed that they will give you the opportunity to buy vouchers if they don't like you.

I prefer KTV girls as you have an entire night to build up a connection, spend time being frisky in the room, touching her everywhere before bringing her up to one of the hotel rooms. Of all the times I have been there and brought up a girl to bang they were drenched "down there" when we got to the room. Although condoms are provided I've never had to use them with any of the girls, they are already horny and give a real GFE.

Prices obviously are not cheap, my last visit with a total of 6 guys, 12 girls that included alcohol (single malts), banging, additional tips for blowjobs on the balcony towards the clubs and walking around naked in the karaoke room came to just over 100 jt.

[QUOTE=HihiSter;2077621]Rarely talked about here is KTV, my favorite place for both clubbing as well as KTV is Colosseum / 1001 in Kota Tua, West Jakarta. The club has it all, best lighting, best sound, multiple famous international DJ's every month and a lot of very very hot chicks.

There are certain KTV rooms you can book that have balcony's into the club, so you get the best of both worlds; start the evening at 8/9 PM with a line-up and some karaoke and continue clubbing till deep into the night. Line-up for the karaoke is varied, you can get regular Indonesian girls, models as well as imports. Imports are the obvious Chinese and Viets, however depending on the mami / papi Kazachs / Uzbeks, Koreans and Japanese can be arranged. All girls are WELL above average in looks, model category quality is truly exceptional.

I was there with a few buddies last week and we went for the model category, they were 2 jt to accompany you for the night, a minimum tip of 500 k is expected at the end. You are able to bang them as well but for that you'd need to purchase "vouchers", all categories have differently priced vouchers and it seems to depend on the girl how many vouchers she wants to spread her legs. Model category vouchers are 1 jt per piece and the absolute minimum you should expect is 3 vouchers, however it isn't guaranteed that they will give you the opportunity to buy vouchers if they don't like you.

I prefer KTV girls as you have an entire night to build up a connection, spend time being frisky in the room, touching her everywhere before bringing her up to one of the hotel rooms. Of all the times I have been there and brought up a girl to bang they were drenched "down there" when we got to the room. Although condoms are provided I've never had to use them with any of the girls, they are already horny and give a real GFE.

Prices obviously are not cheap, my last visit with a total of 6 guys, 12 girls that included alcohol (single malts), banging, additional tips for blowjobs on the balcony towards the clubs and walking around naked in the karaoke room came to just over 100 jt.[/QUOTE]So each guy pays over 16 million rupiah (about $1,200 USD) for a night of fun. It does sound like a great time, but that's a hefty price tag. I would love to see some photos of some girls you have had there.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2077626]So each guy pays over 16 million rupiah (about $1,200 USD) for a night of fun. It does sound like a great time, but that's a hefty price tag. I would love to see some photos of some girls you have had there.[/QUOTE]Sometimes a bit more, sometimes a lot less, it really depends on the mood and what you do. Decent fun can be had starting at around 5jt a person.

Most of the guys are attached so we have a strict no recording / pictures / evidence policy for what happens in those rooms. Also, depending on the category but especially for the "models", a lot of the girls aren't fulltime girls, they do it as a side-gig for a few days a week / month and thus won't agree to any pictures either.

If you want to join sometime drop me a PM, we're probably going at the end of the month as there's another famous DJ coming in.