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Sexplorer,
Why seek Jackson's assistance? I think you'd better aim your encouragement on the couple of malcontents who started this nonsense by calling me out publicly.
The point is this: if you intend on flaming Otto, then look to yourself before you do it. While I don't go looking to attack other members, I will not turn the other cheek when subjected to unfair abuse.
What I've done here is respond to those who've chosen to explicitly attack me.
Self-defense is a right inherent to any gentleman. Even Jackson recognizes this.
-Uncle Otto
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There I go talking about myself again. And here I had promised to stop that. Sorry, folks.
Just to put this discussion back on the relevant course, I found yet another valuable contribution to the Baltimore board by TrashMan:
[url=http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=177990#post177990]Another link to another valuable post from TrashMan[/url]
[quote]Originally posted by TrashMan
[blue][Report deleted by Admin]
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted in accordance with the WSG Forum's Zero Tolerance policy regarding reports containing any personal attacks or derogatory comments directed towards another Forum Member or the Forum Membership in general.[/blue][/quote]
Yes, obviously, I am the one with the problem, encouraging this member and his valuable posts to refrain from attacking others. Yes, my bad, indeed. Maybe if somebody puts a cap in my skull I'll finally get the message.
-Uncle Otto
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You guys, COUGH, are sure setting a fine example, HACK, for us "junior members". Kind of like my Dad, WHEEZE, smoking cigs while I was, GAG, growing up.
Scotty Monger
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Otto, I think you misunderstood the threat. I've heard a couple of people say that they want to put a cap [b]on[/b] your skull to hide the fact that you've pulled out all your hair over this silly situation :)
BTW, I feel left out that I didn't get a PM from you. Could you take this joke as a personal attack instead so I can join the 'PM'd by Uncle Otto' club?
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Man, Otto, you sure make a lot of noise for somebody who posted:
"I do not have anything more to say on this subject, so if you want my input or reaction to your opinion, too bad, I shall not reply."
Ha! Excluding your PM to me telling me that "I could kiss your ass" a mere TWO MINUTES after my post, it took all of 10 hours 7 minutes to start again spewing your high-'n-mighty vile attacks on established and respected members. Eight more posts during the next 4 hours, none with redeeming social (or other) value. Nice self-restraint, dude.
All I did was point out the facts surrounding your post deletions. All you do is flame away when you start facing any serious opposition to your 'argument'. Pretty typical reaction for a bully.
Nobody really needs to call you an ass, you do a great job demonstrating it all by yourself.
So it turns out that this mysterious photo might actually be of you:
[url]http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/attachment.php?s=&postid=150267[/url]
- Atlanta Monger
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Otto,
Apparently you either cannot read or are so taken with yourself that you can't see the truth. You are lying here in several posts and you know it. You refuse to see the whole point of this because you are either ignorant or an ass, I really don't know or care which. I have extended peace offerings to you on several occaisons only to be slapped in the face and accused of all sorts of crap.
Then, when you are called out by more than two members, you don't like it and instead of dealing with the issue head on, like most liars, you choose to sidestep the issue and try to throw people off your trail by slinging new bags of bullshit and changing the subject.
It's all over Otto, people know you're a dick and your shit is on the street. Just go away.
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My background:
I started following the WSG over a year ago. I have been looking at the VA board for the last couple of months for an upcoming trip, it's this weekend actually. I will admit that I am a newbie and have not contributed as much to this board as those already in this discussion. Flame me if you want for this, I don't care. I personally have nothing better to do and don't care.
I haven't taken the board personal enough to look at everyones name when reading it, but I do know certain posters when I see them. Before this incident I did not know of Otto, although I did recognize Trashman and LOS.
My View:
Newbies look for alot of information on the board. One would think that the more posts a person has the better the info. Many posts here have being questions already answered, personal interaction that should be sent in a PM, or just saying I was gonna go out today but I couldn't. Post numbers really mean nothing here. But it really pisses me off that someone shows up on almost any board with a random post, while increasing post numbers, and then turns around and uses that number to claim that they are right. I could easily do a search for hotels in every city that has a board and make a post on all of them saying here is a place to take a SW. I could tell every board that PMs are available. I could answer every question with RTFF. I could do all this as a 5 year-old that has never seen action and never left the house. But does this make me right. I guess everyone gets my drift. I could care less how long this goes on. I have decided in MY mind who is right here. I think Trashman just summed up Otto in a nutshell on 3-09. I state the date since I am not a senior member and know it may be a day or two before this is read. My opinion may be a waste of space, but I'm only putting one post up on this matter. I'm not gonna waste more than one post like many others. I've said all I can on the matter. The Jury has spoken.
Thanks for the time,
JD
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i am amazed yet once again at what i see here. dear otto for someone who said he was done posting things on this matter (hey just where did that posting go? seems to be gone..) you do still have much to say. now who is checking out who has posted what and at what time in history did they do it? didn't i read something you posted questioning lovelos for doing the same thing? (damn...can't find that posting either....note to self...put lojack on messages so they can be tracked) i went back to re-read your posting (damn....jackson is there a hole in the server because all of otto's old postings seem to be no more..) where you (pardon the paraphrase but since the original is gone i have to work from memory) pretty much called us all cheap sob's for not giving money to jackson.
i guess once again you have shown yourself to be what you are. an old sad man who is bitter and filled with hot air. did you get your ass kicked often in your younger years? did you have many true friends or did you have to buy them?
by removing your posts with increasing speed you only show just how repulsive you find yourself.
once again the olive branch has been extended to you by many of the senior members of the nova/dc boards. you refuse to let this pass yet strike out time and time again. wake up...take your meds....relax..and chill.
"intolerance breeds injustice. injustice invariably leads to rebellion and retaliation, and these will lead to escalation on part of both making reconciliation impossible. it would appear that during times of stress, despair and frustration, people become increasingly irrational."
p.s.
i am in favor of the haiku. it does provide a sense of class here.
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Otto,
Deleting your posts is the strongest case you have made for yourself to date. They say those who rewrite history will be the ultimate victors, good strategy. I have little further to say on the original complaint, you are doing a fine job of making my points for me, be sure to keep it up.
As far as the "new" issue brought forth to cloud the "original" issue:
I guess Trashman could also go back and delete any and all of his posts that have ever been edited or deleted by the admin, as you have done. I don't expect that he will do that since he his own man and not particularly concerned if anyone has a problem with that. One reason we respect him, he respects himself.
I had previously assummed that you have only ever had two posts edited, now I have to wonder is you have had many many more edited, but you just deleted them? Now may I suggest you delete the whining you have posted since; incuding the pedantic attacks on about every senior member who has anything to say that may be misconstrued to be against your cause.
On another subject, some compliments:
I will note that Guillermo, via PM, sent me a most reasoned and even handed response defending his comments on this board, and while he chose not to take the edge off of his anti-LoveLOS position here, he has nonetheless gained my profound respect.
I want to publicly thank those who posted on the "original" subject, your wordcrafting has been is excellent. The opposition had little to say (especially in retrospect when reviewing the posts). I ask that Jackson craft his ruling so that the NoVa/DC boys can get back to the reason we really subscribe to WSG.
Rev, I have enjoyed the haiku.
LoveLOS
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Hi all,
I just received this PM from Otto himself!
"Your Posts
Freeler,
If I think a poster has said something that is stupid, I think to address the stupidity the best way to do it is by a PM, not by a post attacking that person.
Of course, there could very well be no shortage of what I think are stupid Freeler posts which might be fare game for public comment, wouldn't you agree? But nah, I would make such a statement in a PM, rather than be a jerk by posting an attack on the board.
Do you see my point?
-Uncle Otto"
I am absolutely delighted with his PM and I am secretly, no openly, hoping that this PM will become valuable in the future, the way Vincent van Gogh's letters to his brother became valuable.
We now know why Otto spammed the board to advertise the PM feature.
I am sure that all of you see my point,
Sincerely,
Freeler
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Skinless,
Thai Pussy
Railway brothel dump: - Pitsanulok? NakhonSiTammarat?
Rats rattling the empty cans, - Pitsanulok!
Stench of rotting teeth - NakhonSiTammarat!
Freeler: I hope you like them. - I do!
Sorry your teacher retarded you by saying poems must rhyme. - She was nice and had soft bouncy tits! And she was about 20 years older than I was. Can you feel the connection?
We must meet some time. Perhaps the May tour of duty, when I will be after cheap Thai booty. Now I feel like MinM. Talking in rap. taking in crap, wasting my time, thing of nursery rhymes, there's hookers to be laid, scores to be made. Lets put this fucking thing to music. - DooWahDiddyDiddy Dumb?
Haiku are not supposed to rhyme - I know that, sigh...
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The subject is TrashMan
The following is perfect example of the kind of flaming and attacks made by this member until Jackson started deleting his posts. If you want to see more of this member's valuable contributions, take a look at the archives in D.C. I am only the latest in a very long line of WSG members who has become the target of this poster's attacks.
[quote]Originally posted by TrashMan
Apparently you either cannot read or are so taken with yourself that you can't see the truth. [b]You are lying [/b]here in several posts and you know it. You refuse to see the whole point of this because [b]you are either ignorant or an ass[/b], I really don't know or care which. I have extended peace offerings to you on several occaisons only to be slapped in the face and accused of all sorts of crap.
Then, when you are called out by more than two members, you don't like it and instead of dealing with the issue head on, like most liars, you choose to sidestep the issue and try to throw people off your trail by [b]slinging new bags of bullshit [/b]and changing the subject.
It's all over Otto, people know [b]you're a dick and your shit is on the street. Just go away.[/b][/quote]
Yes, Jackson really has a problem by banning these kinds of posts. Shame on Jackson.
-Uncle Otto
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Believe me, Skinless, the last thing Nibu needs is help about where to find big hooters. He is the prince of hooters. He can smell and find them the way trained animals sniff out truffles that are buried underground.
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Might you add me to your excellent list of posters who "bravely stood up for Nibu" when he was also the subject of attacks by other members?
[url=http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=60766&highlight=nibu#post60766]Otto defends Nibu on 1/28/03[/url]
[url=http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=62365&highlight=nibu#post62365]Otto defends Nibu on 2/3/03[/url]
-Uncle Otto
And OK, OK, message received, I will find some Argentine breasts for Nibu to play with....