Madrid

My Flower Park experiance was full of ups and downs. First some logistics for taking cabs. Unfortunately, most cab drivers do not know where it is, and since I can´t speak Spanish, it gets tricky. The address is Rosa de Lima 2 in Las Matas off exit 26 of A-6. When you get off, take the traffic circle to get to an access road that parallels A-6 heading back towards Madrid, and its off to the right. It´s around 25 euro from the Plaza de Sol and around 35 euro returning since the cab is called from Madrid and has around 10 euro on the meter to start.

The place is fantastic, with plenty of girls of generally high caliber. As mentioned in previous posts, they will work you hard to close the deal. I had the first public outing of my johnson in many years when a girl whipped it out and started playing with it. I found some of the Lagos girls to be excessively aggressive, and abusive when denied. I ended up with an Italian girl Rina or Raina. Very beautiful, with that voluptuous, sun drenched, earthy kind of Italian look that was driving me crazy when I was in Italy. The sex was solid but uninspired, but I was so excited from downstairs that I didn´t last long anyway.

All in all, a great experience. Unfortunately, I´m leaving Madrid for Rome today, I would love to go back knowing what I know now. I would go early 8-9, get one of the really aggressive for a half hour, go back down, relax and recharge, and get another one.

The hunt continues.

Hey gang! Anyone have an update on Atocha 45? Always wanted to go in there.

Thanks in advance.

Hello All,

I'm a Madrid native. I'm back to the hobby after a few years away from it. Previously I made a couple of quite lengthy posts to usenet's ASP group, back in 1997, of which I have been getting feedback somewhat sparsely until as late as last year.

Because the EU economic crisis has played hard on your humble narrator, as well as certain personal circumstances, he now faces severe budget limitations. Flower Park or Rotterdam are now beyond reach. Rather, I resort to sleazier brothels set up on old buildings.

The purpose of this post is to share my findings. The first one: forget about supermodel-like girls. These ladies are just average looking -Latin American- girls next door rating from 3 to 7. However, I've found some of them with a wonderful attitude and enjoyed some really, really great sessions. The prices I paid per session are between 35 to 70 Euros, averaging at 50, and depending on the time spent, usually half an hour.

These are my experiences and -where applicable- my recommendations. The source are the ads in the newspaper.

Before I go on, a question for the forum: Should I post the houses' addresses even if they didn't put it on the ad? on one hand I'd rather protect their privacy since they didn't make it public on the first place, on the other hand if the purpose of this forum is to help people with limited Spanish language skills, they would have trouble getting the information themselves. To add insult to injury, I don't have the telephone numbers at hand (duh!). I'll post them later on.

Now on for the meat:

1. Metro: Palos de la frontera/Atocha. In a street aptly named "Paseo de las Delicias".
I arrived to the apartment and entered directly to a big living room where some of the girls were watching TV which has to be crossed to go to a bedroom. The madame asked what kind of service I wanted. I said greek then, before even letting me first see the girl, asked for the money. It was 50 Euros for half an hour. Then she called Laura who apparently was the only one available that night that would do that service. This is a very dark skinned girl from Venezuela in her late twenties. A 5 by her looks, but she has such a soft skin and such a great attitude that finally turned me on like crazy without much difficulty. She gave me a BBBJ, then she put me a condom and let me do the front, then the back and then (after a condom change) the front again. I think I overstayed the half hour. Got out exhausted.

I came back weeks later, and this time the same madam introduced me to about six girls, averaging 4 to 7 in looks, almost all wearing lingerie. Tempting, but I chose Laura again and more or less repeated the same excellent session. I've seen Laura a total of 3 times so far. Definitely recommended. Treat this lady well, please. She deserves it.

2. Metro: Canal.
An appartment. I was taken to the room and introduced to two ladies, both about the same in looks: 6. My rule of thumb to predict a good session is to choose the one that has the nicest, sincerest smile. Since both had a nice smile, I picked the one with bigger breasts: Judith. Also from Venezuela. CBJ, and then both holes. Not as good as the previous one above, but not at all bad. It cost me 40 Euros.

3. Metro: Iglesia.
Not an apartment. This place has access from the street. The door says "Club Social", I must confess that I felt a morbid attraction for a brothel with such an euphemistic "cover". Anyway, I had to ring twice before they opened the door. Then, I was led to a bedroom that was dimly illuminated by one of those ultra-violet neons that make people's teeth and white stuff glow, but it's otherwise impossible to see anything else. It was noon. There were only two girls. One was quite small and skinny. I couldn't really see much to appreciate her. The other one had a much better shilouette, taller, long haired and curvy so I picked her. None of them smiled (bummer!) This time I got myself only a 'completo', no greek. It was 50 Euros for half an hour. I reached for my wallet but I couldn't really see the notes so the madame lit an ordinary light. The girl was really pretty. I'd give her an 8, but she was completely passive. I complimented her (she had a great body) but I could hardly get her to smile. She did a CBJ and then I did my stuff. Lousy attitude. I was out in fifteen minutes. I won't be back.

4. Metro: Quevedo.
Another place accesible from the street. I was taken to a bedroom and introduced to the girls, the first one was quite pretty. The second one was not so pretty, but I liked her. She not only smiled but she asked me how I was, and my name (this is a clear indicator of marvelous attitude in bed), then a third lady, a black Latin American a little chubby. She also smiled nicely and also asked me my name. Even if the first one was the cutest, my choice was going to be one of the last two, preferrably the second one. It finally was the second one since I wanted some greek that night and she was the only one that would do it. Her name was Andrea. Now, what a terrific session! excellent attitude and excellent tecnique, really great BBBJ and really great sex. She seemed to enjoy it too. Only when I did her greek she seemed unconfortable so I took it off, changed my condom, and fucked her pussy again. One of the best sessions I had lately. I have only been once, but I'll be definitely back. Recommended. I paid 70 Euros for one hour.

5. Metro: Alvarado.
This is the exotic curiosity that is being revealed to you in this post. An all-Asian brothel in Madrid!!! (I think there are more, but they cater mainly the Chinese immigrant community and are not accessible to the general public, unless you have a Chinese connection which I'd give an arm and a leg to have). Anyway, this is also a place accessible from the street, near Cuatro Caminos, which has a photograph of a horse in the door. I came in and saw five Asian women from 20 to 40, 4-6 in looks. Not that great, really but it was the exotic appeal that took me there. (Oh, the second time, there was also a black Latin American girl, I'd have chosen her, since the cutest ones were occupied, but the nitty-gritty of the place is sex with Asians). The girls seem to be from Indonesia, most of them. and a little on the overweight side, but not really fat. I picked one called Mai-Tan for a 35 Euro, half hour session. No greek available. Pretty decent attitude, fine long BBBJ, and sex. The second time I picked Linda, a little fatter but nice and the session was quite similar. In all, not the best, but not bad at all. I recommend this place for those who, like me, had a tendency for exotic women.

This is all for tonight. My plans are to stick visiting these places, except the Iglesia one, possibly meeting other women, and to keep you updated. Any questions, I try to read this thread at least weekly.

Be good.

Sinverg Wenza

Hey Window Shopper,

Glad you enjoyed Rani, the Italian. I was with her a month ago (read previous posts) and had a couple of pretty darn good sessions. Glad you enjoyed Flowers Park.

Monger on !

Window Shopper - Rani is definitely smoky hot. I think she looks a bit like Monica Belucci. I went with her for a 1/2 hour session, but she was my 4th girl in less than 24 hours and I just couldn't climax. But she was all right.

Sinverg Wenza - for some of the prices you're paying, Flower's Park is not out of reach. And I think you'd find some real knockouts there. I know I did. Seek out Jasmine (Turkish girl with BRIGHT red lipstick). I heard she does Greek. Maybe. Who knows?

Nice reports.

BTW, I am here in Monterrey ABSOLUTELY missing both Flower's Park and my little Daisy. It's hard finding my type of girl here, and there is not much chance of anything other than a hit and run witht he rare flowers I do find. Sigh. Some entrepreneur should come out here and open up a Flower's Park!

Hola Sinverg Wenza,

I kind of agree with Buster. Places like Flowers Park, Javi, Starski, Lovely, have many beautiful women to choose from at EUR 60 for 30 minutes. So the prices are not very far from you are paying already. Think about it.

Saludos.

Thank you for your comments.

I seem to have lumped Fower Park in with Rotterdam and Angelo's, which are really expensive places.

I used to object the 'American Bar' thing, hanging about with the ladies and having to buy them overpriced drinks prior to get them to bed. I recognize the advantage of a short conversation first can help select the ones with a better attitude (I value attitude over looks, it is definitely what makes the session good or bad), but I always preferred the brothel, lineup thing. I've never been to a girls bar, in fact.

However I've catched the curiosity by reading this forum and I am seriously considering a try.

Now, my reliance on public transportation puts Flower Park out of my reach again (I sold my car years ago, and moved to within walking distance from work, if you have lived in this town for a few months you understand why. My quality of life has improved considerably). Can you recommend some similarly priced alternatives, what are the addresses?

These are the phone numbers for the apartments in my previous post, as promised:

- Metro Canal: 914451982
- Metro Atocha/Palos: 915305766
- Metro Alvarado: 915543923
- Metro Quevedo: 914456159
- Metro Iglesia: 914453512

Nobody answered my question about whether I should post addresses as well. I think I will, but only if specifically requested by someone interested in visiting (and who will post his experience).

Sinverg

Hey Sinverg,

I have a list of about 12 places similar to Flowers with the addresses. Since it is in Spanish, I do not post it here, though I would if requested by many mongers.

If you are interested, send me a mail at my hotmail address: b69pat
and I will send it to you.

By the way, in Flowers Park, Lovely, Javi, and a few more you do not have to buy the girl a drink. It is up to you.

Regarding posting the addresses of the places you went to, yes please do, this could be of interest to many mongers.

Ciao.

I wanted to narrate a recent excellent experience I had.

This time it is an apartment with about 6 girls in total. 3 in the morning shift and 3 in the evening shift. Place closes at midnight.

The address is: Calle Ortega y Gassett 81, 2nd floor, door D
They have an ad in El Mundo newspaper as Students: "Estudiantes". Phone is : 91-401 73 67

Anyways, went there in the afternoon. 3 girls were present. Overall good level. Chose an approx 23 year old Venezuelan called Paula. About 160 cm. Big and nice breasts. A good figure overall. Rather cute. And especially very friendly and warm.
In bed she was very vicious enjoying looking at herself in the mirror. We did everything in the book. A little bit of BBBJ but mostly with condom. Many positions in bed. Very very good anal in various positions. Anulingus from her. At EUR 180 an hour. I highly recommend her, and may repeat myself.

A guy I know went in the morning and had a trio. Said one of the Spanish girls there, Elena, was one of the most beautiful "professionals" he had ever seen. Worth checking out I am sure.

The appartment they work in is pretty nice. The rooms are fine and very clean. They apparently even have a S&M room, but I did not see it, as I am not really interested in pain, just in pleasure :-)

Hope this helps.

Sinverg Wenza,

I would be very grateful if you could post those addresses, in particular the house with asian ladies.

B69,
I would be very interested in recieving the list of places you have similar to Flowers park. I also have transport problems, (refusing to be ripped off again by a scallywag cab driver), and I keep hearing such wonderful tales about Flowers Park, which I insist are here only to tease me.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sinverg Wenza
[i]I seem to have lumped Fower Park in with Rotterdam and Angelo's, which are really expensive places. I used to object the 'American Bar' thing, hanging about with the ladies and having to buy them overpriced drinks prior to get them to bed. I recognize the advantage of a short conversation first can help select the ones with a better attitude (I value attitude over looks, it is definitely what makes the session good or bad), but I always preferred the brothel, lineup thing. [/i][/QUOTE]Yes, Flower's Park is not all that expensive for the quality of the girls. Most of them are fairly new to the country or just there for a short time, and it is an easy place for them to get started on their new "career." Kind of like an incubator for sex workers. FP reminds me of a college town bar scene, with all the young girls hanging out, except in this case, you really can get laid! No, you don't need to buy a drink, and yes, some of the girls can be aggressive (e.g., Jasmine, Rani, the Bulgarian girl), but others are a little more relaxed. Sometimes the girls are just playfully flirtatious. While waiting for b69 to finish one night, I was at the bar next to this average-looking girl watching the strip show. She kept furtively grabbing my ass and rubbing my cock and all this "cute" stuff. We traded some gropes for a bit, but I never felt pressured to buy her a drink or take her upstairs. And there seem to be almost NO "bouncers" roaming around to intimidate you. (This was also true at the other places I visited.) It was all girls. I contrast that with Monterrey, where I find that in all the places I have been here, there are dozens of guys "encouraging" you to buy a drink or a girl or whatnot. Another nice thing about FP is that it is clean and safe. A few extra dollars is a small price to pay to reduce unnecessary risk, in my opinion.

Here are the addresses of the places mentioned on my previous post:

- Metro Canal: 914451982 c/Lozoya, 4 1st Floor Ext. Izqda. Open 24hrs.

- Metro Atocha/Palos: 915305766 Paseo de las Delicias, 31 8th Floor C. Open 24Hrs. The bell on the front door downstairs is labeled "MAYKA". Laura seems to work the nights except sundays.

- Metro Alvarado: 915543923 c/Tenerife, 15. The Asian ladies' place. It has a picture of a horse on the door. It's Open 12:00-21:00 Mon-Sat. 35 Euros half an hour 'completo'. 65 1 hour.

- Metro Quevedo: 914456159. c/Cardenal Cisneros, 78 Green place, red doorbell. Open 24 hours. 50 Euros half hour 'completo', 70 Euros 1 hour (this may include greek, depending on the lady)

- Metro Iglesia: 914453512. c/Castillo, 11 Door labeled "Club Social". Open 24hrs. 50 Euros half an hour. I don't really recommend this place, although I have only been there once. You might have better luck.


Enjoy!

Sinverg

Lazlo,

Send me an hotmail at: b69pat
and I will forward the info.

Ciao.

B69

Thanks for the review you just sent me.

I have also visited Ortega y Gasset a few months ago.

I was with a Venezuelan girl called Ana: European looking, blonde -by Spanish standards-, blue eyed, very nice, and very beautiful. A real sweetie.

I didn't mention the place before because my review would have been undeservedly negative.

The other girls were busy, and the only room left was precisely the S&M room. I'm not into that either. But since it was the only available room she proposed me to use it. The problem is it has NO BED! I accepted (Wrong! I should have waited, or left), but sex turned out to be very uncomfortable for both of us, and I couldn't finish.

The cost was 100 Euros for a 1 hr. completo. CBJ.

While the girl was nice, after such an insatisfactory experience, I left thinking that I could find better deals elsewhere.

I'm glad you enjoyed your session.

Sinverg

For a "mainstream" newspaper, the El Mundo sure covers prostitution pretty thoroughly! Probably helps that it gives them an excuse to run photos of nearly-naked women.

In today's August 1 edition, they ran a story about the closing of the Casa de Campo to vehicular traffic since the policy started today. Along with the story, they ran about three large photos of some of the ladies working the park yesterday. Two of the ladies were topless, and it was during daylight hours. (Wonder if the photog paid them to take off their tops?) Their faces are covered up, but they definitely are Caucasian. Both of them are probably carrying a little extra weight in the waist and thighs, but one of them has a VERY nice set of tetas.

Almost makes one want to go out and try to sample the experience, car ban or no. However, I just can't help but wonder about hygiene. I don't see an abundance of running water or restrooms in the park, so I doubt that the ladies clean up really well after a transaction. Also, I just don't think it would be as comfortable in the backseat of a car. I also like to see the chica I'm with (never liked doing it in the dark) but, at Casa de Campo, if I can see the chica, chances are good that someone else can probably see my bony ass as well.