Stockholm

[QUOTE=Interceptor Zone]I prefer young girls around 20 years old. I have been several times in pubs, under 25 clubs, and every time I want to talk to a swedish girl I was rejected in a very bad manner.[/QUOTE]
So you get rejected by girls around 20 in clubs, and then conclude it's racism? Give me a break! That also happens to Nordic guys all the time, those who haven't learnt the "game". Those girls often get approached by guys, and they know how to reject those who don't pull the right strings. Being tall, behaving well and having a "perfect body" isn't enogh if the girls find you boring.

[QUOTE=Masayama]So you get rejected by girls around 20 in clubs, and then conclude it's racism? Give me a break! That also happens to Nordic guys all the time, those who haven't learnt the "game". Those girls often get approached by guys, and they know how to reject those who don't pull the right strings. Being tall, behaving well and having a "perfect body" isn't enogh if the girls find you boring.[/QUOTE]Thank you Masayama, maybe it is exaggerated to put Racism as a title but it is a hole matter, being rejected many times in clubs is a fact among others.

When I was speaking about myself, I am not trying to show that I am ideal, instead I was saying that I have the minimum requirements.

May be I am boring as you have said, but I have never get the chance even to speak with them! You see? I think it is a matter of prejudices.

[QUOTE=Interceptor Zone]May be I am boring as you have said, but I have never get the chance even to speak with them! You see? I think it is a matter of prejudices.[/QUOTE]
Just the way you introduce yourself, including your body language, may be enogh for them to reject you. Also what you're doing before introducing yourself, e.g. if you're hesitating too long before approaching her. Or how you dress.

To get a better idea what I'm talking about, try reading some books from "pick-up artists" (PUAs) like Neil Strauss ("The Game") or David DeAngelo ("Double Your Dating"). It probably won't make you a PUA yourself, but at least you'll get an idea of how these girls think.

[QUOTE=Masayama]To get a better idea what I'm talking about, try reading some books from "pick-up artists" (PUAs) like Neil Strauss ("The Game") or David DeAngelo ("Double Your Dating"). It probably won't make you a PUA yourself, but at least you'll get an idea of how these girls think.[/QUOTE]I C. This would be my reading subject for the coming days.

Thank you so much Masayama.

I'm in Stockholm this weekend on my own, can anyone suggest a good nightclub to visit? Is there anyone who likes to meet women in clubs keen to meet up?

Cheers,

Jake

[QUOTE=Interceptor Zone]My chinise roommate told me one time that he prefer not to speak much to swedish especially girls. He has experienced racism severals times in the university and even sometimes when he want to socialize in pubs, clubs,. Etc.

About escorts services here, swedish girls does not accept to meet a guy from Southeast Asia and I don't know why.
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I prefer young girls around 20 years old. I have been several times in pubs, under 25 clubs, and every time I want to talk to a swedish girl I was rejected in a very bad manner. The fact that you are not speaking swedish is a big obstacle. Besides, swedish girls, nowadays, don't talk to foreign people, especially who came from Arabic country like me.[/QUOTE]If you have the opportunity I think you should try your luck outside the Greater Stockholm area. Of course I cannot give you any guarantee. Some girls have bad experience from Mediterranean looking - or Arabian looking - guys but some girls have not. Try places that are popular but not the most fancy ones. And also try some other girls than the very best looking ones.

The distrust against foreigners is growing in Sweden, unfortunately. And we are all aware that there is antagonism between the Western and the Islamic civilization but - most Swedish people are positive to foreigners and not racialists.

[QUOTE=Interceptor Zone]About escorts services here, swedish girls does not accept to meet a guy from Southeast Asia and I don't know why.[/QUOTE] Just one remark: a girl from South East Asia told me that she only dates Western guys. The reasons are that Western men treat women better, they look better (this is of course a matter of taste) and they have bigger dicks.

[QUOTE=Bellpepper]Just one remark: a girl from South East Asia told me that she only dates Western guys. The reasons are that Western men treat women better, they look better (this is of course a matter of taste) and they have bigger dicks.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you. It is our fault: Arabic guys. We are cruel and we don't know how to behave with a woman. Especially in Sweden. They do have bad experience. Recently, a Swedish girl gave me an example, she used to date an Egyptian man, it turns into a disaster.

Actually, I have a pretty chinese friend in sweden who's dating an egyptian guy. She grew up in sweden and the guy is very christian (the whole family is). It's working out pretty well, but then he's from a good family too, very academic and treats her well (respectfully).

I think one's social background plays quite a big part. I've seen redneck swedish guys who keep getting rejected by girls just because they approach the girls with an awful attitude.

Remember, try to understand what the women wants and approach them from that angle, don't think they'll understand that you're horny as hell and just needs a shag. Only working girls appreciate such candor.

Lys

[QUOTE=Interceptor Zone]I totally agree with you. It is our fault: Arabic guys. We are cruel and we don't know how to behave with a woman. Especially in Sweden. They do have bad experience. Recently, a Swedish girl gave me an example, she used to date an Egyptian man, it turns into a disaster.[/QUOTE]

Hi, can anyone tell me if the rumors in (midwest) America are true- are older Swedish women (around 40 or so) going out the bars horny for younger men? I've just heard its a milf-extravaganza over there, but I'm sure those reports were exaggerated.

In another (mostly unrelated) note, I have the opportunity to work abroad for 6 months in a leadership development program for my company in either:

-Sweden
-Germany
-Poland
-India
-China

Any advice on which would be best for trying to develop a relationship with a hottie abroad (and falling back to hookers if necessary :-) )? Thanks guys!

[QUOTE=Twardzik70]Hi, can anyone tell me if the rumors in (midwest) America are true- are older Swedish women (around 40 or so) going out the bars horny for younger men? I've just heard its a milf-extravaganza over there, but I'm sure those reports were exaggerated.

In another (mostly unrelated) note, I have the opportunity to work abroad for 6 months in a leadership development program for my company in either:

-Sweden
-Germany
-Poland
-India
-China

Any advice on which would be best for trying to develop a relationship with a hottie abroad (and falling back to hookers if necessary :-) )? Thanks guys![/QUOTE]
I think the reports were exaggerated. However, you can always find older woman that are delighted to have young men.

If you want to fall back to hookers, please be aware that prostitution is forbidden in Sweden and the customer will be busted - not the girl. The risk of being caught is small but I guess you don't want your company to know that you were taken by the police. Mongering is very shameful in Sweden.

If you stay in the Malmö area (southern part of Sweden) you can go to the brothels in Denmark. It is legal there and there are several Danish internet sites with reviews of the girls. In Sweden you know nothing about the girls.

But I suggest Germany for mongering. The Frankfurt area has some high class FKK:s (but the RLD is not so nice). I prefer Nord-Rhein/Westfalen, however. There are several good FKKs and "Party-treffs". Berlin and Hamburg are also OK. And the cost is less than half compared with Denmark and Sweden.

I found swedish girls extremely easy to approach. They are open to flirting, touching, kissing but to bed them you need special skills. It made quite an impression to me that everytime I hanged out with a swedish girl during my 4 day(4 afternoon to be precise) stay there crowds of Arabs followed us and tried to listen what I told the girls. They(the Arabs) were very annoying and seemed frustrated due to the fact that swedish guys steal their women while they are not able to date swedish women themselves.

In general swedish women respond very well if you have women skills they like playfullness and slending I cannot describe very well their mindset they are close to german women.

[quote=interceptor zone]i am from tunis, 23 years old, studying engineering in stockholm. i have been here for one term (since previous august) and to be honest, i feel like to be in the wrong place. i want to return back to my country. i have read almost all reports which has been posted here and i found them very interesting.

my chinise roommate told me one time that he prefer not to speak much to swedish especially girls. he has experienced racism severals times in the university and even sometimes when he want to socialize in pubs, clubs,. etc.

about escorts services here, swedish girls does not accept to meet a guy from southeast asia and i don't know why.

i have heard that i can pick up a 28-35 years lady in specific places in stockholm but i did not tried at all. i prefer young girls around 20 years old. i have been several times in pubs, under 25 clubs, and every time i want to talk to a swedish girl i was rejected in a very bad manner. the fact that you are not speaking swedish is a big obstacle. besides, swedish girls, nowadays, don't talk to foreign people, especially who came from arabic country like me.

i am not sure if this has any relation with my appearance because i found no problems to date girls in my country. usually when you approach a girl she stays and hears from you, the moment you start speaking english:

- hey, do you speak english

answer:

- yeah. no sorry i have to join my friends,

or:

- what? english? no no sorry.

or

- yes i do, i will answer no questions anymore. excuse me.

etc.

why? i behave well, i am tall, i have a perfect body, white, brown eyes, it is a typical mediterranean look. is not that what they are looking for?

onetime, i have met a beautiful german girl, it was in a club. she was extremely friendly with me, we had nice moments, but she was only for 4 days in stockholm.

really, i don't know what is going on with them.[/quote]the arabs that lives in sweden are bad people, they steal, they rob, they sell drugs and they [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] swedish girls.

thats the reason why arabs in sweden do not get swedish girls.

women in denmark, sweden and norway have completely lost interest in dating men from the middle east and north africa. why? simply because for many years they have mistreated them. some young women 14-17 have been gang raped. other young women have discovered these boys/men are only interested in sex. when it comes to a serious, marital relationship, the guy's parents have already arranged a marriage for him.

some scandinavian women whom married these men have had their child unlawfully removed/kidnapped to the man's home country to never again see her child. in other cases there have been some violent crimes of dismemberment and/or murder of a spouse. after 20 plus years of immigrants non-stop demanding yet not accepting and respecting western lifestyles, women are no longer interested. yes, you'll find a couple whom eventually will date you but you must prove you are different from what she has seen and learned over the years. i suggest you learn the language to start as the first positive step.

I will be visiting Stockholm in August and wondering what's the scene to pick up some local Swedish girls from the bar. I am also open for someone to get paid for her own time. Swedish is my preference.