FKK Artemis - Berlin

[QUOTE=Gustoomas]Hey Mark. You are right of course but you know also that to have a "normal" behave with these working girls is not always easy. We play in club with the majors needs for a man (sex, tenderness, love). The guys who are enough lucky to have these needs fulfilled in normal life don't care to go in FKK club (or they are full crazy I say). For lot of the others, they try by a way or an other to fulfilled theses needs in fkk club. I can say that cause in the french Forum youppie.net, we have carry out a survey among our network of "youppienaute" with the following question: are you jealous when your favorite is with an other guy?

2 responses possibles

1°) I know that it is their job but despite that I have more or less pain in my heart.

2°) No, no problem, I understand that they are present in club for that.

The result is 50% for each. (on fifty guys).

This result show clearly that behind the smiles and apparent lack of interest for girls after sex, the other needs are always present in the heart of lot of punters.

For me I have learned from my mistakes from the past and this experience painfully obtained is now my best support in keeping me sane and "normal" with the working girls. With the help of my "brothers in FKK" of course.[/QUOTE]This is an interesting point. For me I have a complicated mixture of feelings when I see a girl I particularly like going with another guy. On the one hand I find it quite a turn on that they just fuck anyone for a comparatively small number of euros, and I also am interested to know what they get up to when they are with other men (particularly if I see them doing something interesting like having two guys at once or fucking a man who is particularly well endowed) whereas on the other I feel that maybe they shouldn't be behaving like that and should settle down to a normal life (of course if they had a normal life then I would never have met them!).

This happens to the girls too as well. Although it is not completely unheard of for working girls to marry their clients, it definitely does happen. Alternatively, one girl at Artemis, who was a good performer in the room, told me that she never sees men outside the clubs because if she does then she becomes attached to them and finds it difficult to cope with this.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee] I just did not have the stomach for dragging a sweet young thing up those stairs and then making conversation as we waited for a room. So I myself went into a holding pattern and simply prowled discontentedly for some three hours until shortly after 02:00 when I found it within to leave. [/QUOTE]Thanks Angus for the exceptional report on the party. You have a great eye for detail and it is fascinating to read the thoughts of an experienced punter on the scene at Artemis. I, on my few visits there, have also found that I spent much more time prowling and selecting than actually with a girl in the room and wonder how it is possible to maximise pleasure and minimise the discontent, although maybe the answer is just a good book or a pal to chat to.

If you or anyone else on the forum would like to spend some time chatting in between girls, I will be at Artemis on 6/7 November and again for another weekend in December.

Please PM me if something is possible.

[QUOTE=Vostro000]Again I can't believe what people say about kathleen. Yes she is the best in looks by far. But the service is somewhat lazy and surely she is doing this just for money, she is not there to please people. She sits most of the day on the machines playing games. Her blowjob is so lazy but she thinks its the best. She does not kiss. She likes a special way to hold her tits. She is very-very sensitive on touching her. And based on that I was pissed off a bit that she was offering anal since she so sencitive. But since her looks are out of this world I would not lie but on two days of being there I did her 3 times.[/QUOTE]What I experienced could not ever be called a lazy blowjob. It seems to me that she may just be more variable than other girls on a person by person basis.

We're in agreement that she's the most attractive girl at the club though. What days were you there with her? I was very sad that neither she or Luana was there Saturday.

[QUOTE=Kimino]Best in looks? ...

Chinese tattoo on the back? Btw I was told that one of the ideograms is upside down or mirrored.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, same girl. Tastes vary! Maybe you don't like tennis as much as I do?

[quote=gustoomas]hey mark. you are right of course but you know also that to have a "normal" behave with these working girls is not always easy. we play in club with the majors needs for a man (sex, tenderness, love). the guys who are enough lucky to have these needs fulfilled in normal life don't care to go in fkk club (or they are full crazy i say). for lot of the others, they try by a way or an other to fulfilled theses needs in fkk club. i can say that cause in the french forum youppie.net, we have carry out a survey among our network of "youppienaute" with the following question: are you jealous when your favorite is with an other guy?

2 responses possibles

1°) i know that it is their job but despite that i have more or less pain in my heart.

2°) no, no problem, i understand that they are present in club for that.

the result is 50% for each. (on fifty guys).

this result show clearly that behind the smiles and apparent lack of interest for girls after sex, the other needs are always present in the heart of lot of punters.

for me i have learned from my mistakes from the past and this experience painfully obtained is now my best support in keeping me sane and "normal" with the working girls. with the help of my "brothers in fkk" of course.[/quote]here's my recipe to avoid deep suffering and, in the meanwhile, completely enjoy all levels of feelings:

1) i let me fall in love for a girl i naturally feel "mine" (it does not happen frequently);

2) i spend as much as possible time with her (while considering money);

3) when i feel my emotional state is becoming more and more critic (i miss her at home more than i enjoy her when i'm in artemis), i start spending time with another sweet girl (i always have in my mind such girls i met while in love with the previous one);

4) if i know i cannot afford another visit at artemis, i reach the beginning of falling in love (if it's the case) with this new girl, without going deeply in this state. then i disappear for some months.

this way allow me to have a good remember, to calm down my strong feelings for the previous one, without having too much pain for the new one.

i'm currently in the state 3), and during my next visit i'll try to deepen the "relation" with one of two girls that really approached me in a sweet way, more times, even if i didn't stay with them so far.

now it sounds artificial to my heart, because i cannot think about other girls but her; but the rational experience tells me it will work.

i wrote my starting post because i really felt to share my deep emotions with some of you, and i think i managed to do it.

and, by the way, i don't know whether i'm of the 1st or 2nd type (jealous or not), because when i'm in love, the girl has no time to spend with other customers

moreover, believe me or not, some girls are enough involved to peek at what you do with other girls, even if you tell her you have enough money to cover the time with her (so it's not only a matter of money).

as i told in previous posts, they are not machines, but they have developed a better damper to their feelings.

everyone tries to find what he needs in an fkk. sometimes pure sex, sometimes erotic perversions, sometimes a love story.

aware that is "time limited".

ops. so what's the difference with the real life?

ah, i was forgetting: the money, hehe.

bye, my friends, happy to share experiences with all

linus

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]Hi,

However, and I usually like to avoid generalisations of a nationalistic nature wherever possible, my experience of Italian men is that they really do love women, and that they have a passion for beauty and elegance that is not necessarily shared by other European nationals such as the French (too macho), English (too introverted), Spanish (also too macho) and Russians (too drunk). The excitement and appreciation that Italians radiate when surrounded by gorgeous girls is in my view a positive factor in the overall ambience of Artemis, and would be markedly noticeable by its absence should they ever cease to visit.[/QUOTE]Charlie, you've actually addressed an important topic. I haven't been thinking about the facts in these terms so far, but I have to admit in some ways you're right.

My opinion is that most of Italians really do love girls in a wide sense, with the passion for beauty and elegance. But the difference is the behaviour: I express this passion by behaving with the [right] girls in the best way I can, for their and mine convenience; the "noisy Italians" express it by externalize the rude and stupid part of them.

I know that kind of behavior, and I've ever thought they could have annoyed someone, and you find the evidence of it inside the forum.

I don't want either save or condemn them, please only consider that the arrogance of some of them cannot be subsided in a simple way. It's not only a matter of true passion for girls, but also something like egocentrism and excessive assertiveness. The love passion is only the fuse.

Bye

[QUOTE=Write93]
Yeah, same girl. Tastes vary! Maybe you don't like tennis as much as I do?[/QUOTE]

Not really. :-)

I know it's obvious still I am sometimes amazed when I read some reports and knowing the girl I can't really match it with the description people give.

I know some might prefer blondes other brunettes but this is different and very interesting.

Ciao!

Patchy couple of days at Artemis. Arrived at about 5pm to find it quite quiet. Wandered around, few regulars at that point, headed down to the Kino. I had spotted a "dirty blonde", slim, enhanced breasts touseled hair - looked game for naughtiness - Evelina. She joined me in the kino and made a few interesting promises. Went to the room with her and things were OK, kissing was of the peck on the lips, a bit of lip sucking. 69 was offered and when in position a rather odd grinding started as she rode her pussy and ass across my face. Odd is the word.

Up to the safety boxes, normally girls stand back, Evelina stood at my shoulder and said something about me having alot of Euros. I gave her 70Euro for half an hour. She looked at it and said, "50 more" - I was shocked - I asked what for? She said "For kissing and licking my ass" - I told her that kissing was not chargeable and that I didnt kiss her ass. She said "Kissing is not standard service - is 50 Euros". I refused. She went to Reception, a quick conversation in German and the Manageress was called. She listened carefully and then a heated discussion between Manageress and Evelyn commenced. Basically, Evelina was told that kissing was voluntary but not chargeable - Evelina did not like this and started to argue with the Manageress! Then she tried the "you kissed my ass" line, I had to explain in explicit detail what had happened, that I had not kissed her ass, but had her ass pushed in my face. Evelina finally realised that she wasnt getting anywhere and so said "OK, 70Euros - but you have learned a lesson" and flounced off. The Manageress was a picture of professionally restrained frustration. I have learned lesson - never, ever, ever, party with Evelina.

My second outing was with Colombian Lorina, pretty girl with big breasts and long dark hair, she started up-selling as soon as we were in the room. "60 minutes - everybody wants 60 minutes with me - OK?" As you can imagine I was not in the mood and so informed her that 30 minutes was it, a lack lustre performance ensued.

By this time I was pissed off, the atmosphere was unpleasent. One italian guy smacked a girl on the backside very hard, she had tears in her eyes and turned on him, he got nasty. Luckily other girls intervened and no further harm was done. The security guys hadnt seen the incident, but thet were running up and down the stairs as drunken guys were wandering upstairs without a girl.

I had seen a very pretty petite girl earlier, cute with bouncy breasts, wearing a little black top and wrap. I decided to give it ago, hoping that this would brighten the evening. Marketa was her name, a Czech national - I finally had a great time, lovely personality, she looked cute but with plenty of experience, hips that just boosted my performance. We stayed in a room for 60 minutes.

I left at about 11 - geeling rather torn by that evenings experience.

Day 2 - Sunday - yesterday. Arrived at 11am - the usual chilled out Artemis experience on a Sunday am - older chaps chatting to their favourite girls. After a good breakfast I got chatting to Kathleen. She knew my name, I have never partied with her but she had picked it up from the other girls. We went updstairs. Great kissing with tongue, in fact her tongue traced itself up and down my body a BBBJ that was excellent. Afterwards there was no rush to leave and we chatted. Lovely girl, if she likes you she is likes you. Not to keen on those Italians that dont speak English - they take liberties she feels. Sorry chaps.

More relaxation and then I started to chat to a Spanish looking girl, she is actually Albanian, Ina by name. Beautiful in my humble opinion, we went upstairs and had another great time. Full on french kissing, she loved DATY, great BBBJ and great sex. Loved her. Loved her. Loved her.

Afterwards, dinner - roast beef - Huzzah!! Then digested, swam and spotted Marketa and dragged her upstairs for another blissfull 60 minutes. That was it then, tanks empty I headed back to my hotel for a beer.

Very much a patchy weekend, starting with one horrible experience, one poor experience and then 4 great experiences (Marketa being a doubler). Thumbs up to the Artemis Manageress for playing fair with me.

On holiday soon and back at Artemis at the beginning of November to hook up with some of the ISG chaps for my first ISG Moot. Am very much looking forward to it Kimino et al!!!

[QUOTE=Traveller Uk]
On holiday soon and back at Artemis at the beginning of November to hook up with some of the ISG chaps for my first ISG Moot. Am very much looking forward to it Kimino et al!!![/QUOTE]

Me too Traveller UK! I'll be there starting 28th oct. We iwll have fun.

This Evelina thing sounds real bad, maybe she is a new one that didn't understand the rules of the house. I can imagine your disappointment.

Smacking girls and then getting nasty? Drunken people walking upstairs?
Hope these assholes won't spoil it for the rest of us.

Better exercise my french.... Ahahahaha


Ciao oooppsss Au revoir!

[QUOTE=Traveller Uk](Marketa being a doubler). [/QUOTE]Thanks for a great report, I agree with you Marketa from Czech is a gem.

Nille.

Hi

Michelle (Romania) - mid 20's +, brunette, q dark skinned, angular face, pretty, 5'8''+, v. large tits (augmented), great body, huge tattoo all the way up one side of her body

Nice girl, not particularly intimate, light kisser, great BBBJ - CiM finish.

30 mins later, terrific BBBJ again, fabulous cowgirl, great mish to completion.

110E + 60E = 170E for 2 superb sessions

Stunning young MILF, pleasant and friendly, disengaged but genuine performer - recommended

Charlie

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]Hi

Michelle (Romania) - mid 20's +, brunette, q dark skinned, angular face, pretty, 5'8''+, v. large tits (augmented), great body, huge tattoo all the way up one side of her body

Nice girl, not particularly intimate, light kisser, great BBBJ - CiM finish.

30 mins later, terrific BBBJ again, fabulous cowgirl, great mish to completion.

110E + 60E = 170E for 2 superb sessions

Stunning young MILF, pleasant and friendly, disengaged but genuine performer - recommended

Charlie[/QUOTE]


Charlie... you are so technical!!!! :-)

Looking forward to meet you!

Hi!

Is Samira, the Turkish spinner, still there? Haven't seen any reports on her lately.

Has she quit?

Thanks

Hey!

I a month or so Im heading down to Berlin for my second visit to Artemis. I was there in March and had a great time, but also doinf som e rookie mistakes.

Anyway, since Ive been away for a while I thought it might be a good idea to see if there are any major changes at Artemis.

Same fees for instance?

Im going there on a Monday, are Mondays slow days/nights?

Well, thankfull for all help. And if someone wahts to join this Swedish lad on Novemner 22nd, let me know.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Travelman10]

Anyway, since Ive been away for a while I thought it might be a good idea to see if there are any major changes at Artemis.

Same fees for instance?[/QUOTE]Hejsa,

No not much have changed, same fee 80€, same price in the rooms.

Artemis just had the 5 yr. b-party and next weekend Venus Messe event.

Nille

[QUOTE=Am So Good]Is Samira, the Turkish spinner, still there? Haven't seen any reports on her lately. [/QUOTE]

Just read on a German forum that Samira is back after a three month leave. Assuming it is the same Samira, she is there .

AM