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[QUOTE=Tjohoo; 1453467]The discussion is about if we should spread information about STD-problems or not, and if specific women should be named.

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Because everything we write in here are "forever" and our judgements can have effect years after we write them.[/QUOTE]For the record: I apprechiate any warning about STDs at whatever place and with whatever person. As long as the warning is on time and still valid! Posting a warning months after being cured is not only pointless, it's counterproductive. And if a valid warning was posted, then it should be deleted again after the problem got solved. (And as long as it doesn't get solved, the warning should remain!) As I wrote in the Arabella etc thread: Even criminals get their records expunged after some time, so why should a woman or club be stigmatized on a forum forever?

[QUOTE]A few years ago I met a young cute girl in Samya, she did not give me the best of rides. I don't think my review was very positive. A half year later I went with her again (I don't know why) and I had one of the best experiences ever, and after that many many great sessions (until she quit last year). I still regret my bad review a little bit,[/QUOTE]I can relate to that, something like this happened to me too and my first report about that woman doesn't reflect at all how good she was at later parties. I did however post the good reports as well and even stated that she must have had a very bad day when I first met her. So all reports I wrote about her are on the forum now and everybody can read all of them.

The problem with STD-reports is that they only appear if something did happen or is suspected to have happened. But no one writes about STDs NOT being spread (which would be silly) and so far I have never read any report about a suspected STD being cured. (Except for that one guy who had his STD warning actually deleted after the disease was cured.)

With other issues, there are good and bad reports on the forum. One guy's "shabby place" might be anotherone's heaven. But with STDs, there are only bad reports around of course, as are with frauds. But unlike fraudulent behaviour, an STD is usually cured at some point. After which the club / women should no longer be stigmatized and the formerly valid warning should be deleted. There is after all no other subject matter on a sexforum that is more damaging for a provider than a reported STD, even after it's cured.

[QUOTE=SwingerLover;1453739]And if a valid warning was posted, then it should be deleted again after the problem got solved. (And as long as it doesn't get solved, the warning should remain!).[/QUOTE]You will know if you are cured. How would you know the problem is solved at the club and thus delete the post? Are you going to call the club and ask if they tested the girls and they are now all not infected? Are they going to answer you with anything other than no one there has ever been infected? So you are basically saying that after a certain period (a week? A month?) you should assume that the problem was resolved and delete the post.

By your logic, even if every month there was a post that someone had gotten an STD at a club, no one would ever know that, because all the posts would have been deleted due to your assumption that the problem had been cured after each post. I would much rather know that one year ago someone got an STD and there have been no further incidences because there were no more posts about it than not knowing that there were half a dozen instances because people followed your advice and deleted the posts.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99; 1453791]You will know if you are cured. How would you know the problem is solved at the club and thus delete the post? Are you going to call the club and ask if they tested the girls and they are now all not infected? Are they going to answer you with anything other than no one there has ever been infected? So you are basically saying that after a certain period (a week? A month?) you should assume that the problem was resolved and delete the post.

By your logic, even if every month there was a post that someone had gotten an STD at a club, no one would ever know that, because all the posts would have been deleted due to your assumption that the problem had been cured after each post. I would much rather know that one year ago someone got an STD and there have been no further incidences because there were no more posts about it than not knowing that there were half a dozen instances because people followed your advice and deleted the posts.[/QUOTE]Jumping into this discussion.

I personnally don't pay any attention to any posts relating STDs.

First becasue I think most people on this board have caught Stds, at least once if not more often, and don't report it. For some reasons, a few decide to report. That means that the info about where STDs are to be caught is just fraught on a forum like this one.

Second, consider that the risks of getting STds is everywhere, with every girl, in every club, and that this risk is no less in clubs and with girls who don't get mentionned here than in clubs that get mentionned.

Guys who believe that in going to clubs not mentionned in ST's discussions they will be STd free are fooling themselves.

The risk of STd is directly proportionnal to the number of encounters, and then with the kind of practices. The guy who gets once a year a cover BJ is less likely to get anything than the guy who fucks 3-4 women every week BB. And that is regardless of the fact that one of those 100 woman was reported or not on ISG.

So, let people report what they want, but don't give it no more attention than it deserves.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1454039]First becasue I think most people on this board have caught Stds, at least once if not more often, and don't report it. For some reasons, a few decide to report. That means that the info about where STDs are to be caught is just fraught on a forum like this one.[/QUOTE]Yep. I had already mentoned before that I had had gonorrhea before, but I never mentioned any of my suspicions as to where I might have gotten it. Mainly because I don't know where I got it and I certainly didn't get it from fucking. By now I don't even believe anymore that the clap is even transmitted sexually, at least not initially. Why else was I the only one infected of those guys from the suspected party (whom I asked personally) and why did I have my first gonorrhea years before I had my first bareback fuck?

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1453791]You will know if you are cured. How would you know the problem is solved at the club and thus delete the post? Are you going to call the club and ask if they tested the girls and they are now all not infected? Are they going to answer you with anything other than no one there has ever been infected?[/QUOTE]Yes, I would call. As I did when I suspected a place to be the source of the infection. They then send everybody to the doctor for nothing, because it turned out that everybody was clean. So I didn't get it there and it's a good thing that I didn't voice my false suspicion here on forum. They still looked at me a bit alienated the next two times I showed up there though. Because I had send them to the doctor and might even have paniced them for nothing.

As to if they would answer me with anything other than no: Yes, they would! Because if they don't and get caught, they will become subject to criminal prosecution and the club will be closed. No one will risk that.

[QUOTE=SwingerLover;1454047]I had already mentoned before that I had had gonorrhea before, but I never mentioned any of my suspicions as to where I might have gotten it. Mainly because I don't know where I got it and I certainly didn't get it from fucking.[/QUOTE]Symptoms show up "within 1 to 14 days" so are we to assume you didn't fuck at all two weeks prior to your symptoms showing up?

[QUOTE=SwingerLover; 1454047]why did I have my first gonorrhea years before I had my first bareback fuck?

Yes, I would call. As I did when I suspected a place to be the source of the infection. They then send everybody to the doctor for nothing, because it turned out that everybody was clean. So I didn't get it there and it's a good thing that I didn't voice my false suspicion here on forum. They still looked at me a bit alienated the next two times I showed up there though. Because I had send them to the doctor and might even have paniced them for nothing.

As to if they would answer me with anything other than no: Yes, they would! Because if they don't and get caught, they will become subject to criminal prosecution and the club will be closed. No one will risk that.[/QUOTE]Apparently you are not aware that you can get gonorrhea from a BBBJ, not just bareback sex.

As for calling the club, it would depend on how specific you could be and how big the club is. I doubt that if you called Oase and told them that you had sex with some girls whose name you don't remember and had been to other clubs on both sides of your visit there that they would have all the girls who worked that day go for a test based on an anonymous call or that they would face criminal prosecution if they didn't. If you were to give them a name and description perhaps they would tell her specifically to get tested, if they believed you, as Club Angelique did when I contacted them with names and dates, since they knew I had been there and with those girls.

It appears that there are those who believe in providing information and letting the reader decide how much credence to give it based on the details provided and those who don't believe the reader is capable of deciding this for himself and thus must protect the club by not reporting the information or deleting it when the problem is supposedly resolved so that the report never existed. It is unlikely that anything will persuade SL or those of his opinion to change their mind, so it is pointless to continue this discussion.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1454268]Apparently you are not aware that you can get gonorrhea from a BBBJ, not just bareback sex.[/QUOTE]I'm not that much into BJs and checked in with both places I had been to during the possible incubation time. Everybody else was healthy.

[QUOTE]As for calling the club, it would depend on how specific you could be and how big the club is.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's a problem. Sorry, I just forgot that this is the FKK-Clubs thread; I've never been to a place as big a Oase.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1454225]Symptoms show up "within 1 to 14 days" so are we to assume you didn't fuck at all two weeks prior to your symptoms showing up?[/QUOTE]I checked with both places I've been to and the women I've been with and even with two of the other four guys who participated in a creampie gangbang and came up empty. I had been the only one who was infected. Neither of the two guys contracted it, even though they fucked her AFTER I had shot my load into her.

And no, I didn't fuck all that much in those weeks, which made it easy to backtrack the women. Everybody else was healthy.

[QUOTE=SwingerLover; 1454546]I checked with both places I've been to and the women I've been with and even with two of the other four guys who participated in a creampie gangbang and came up empty. I had been the only one who was infected. Neither of the two guys contracted it, even though they fucked her AFTER I had shot my load into her.

And no, I didn't fuck all that much in those weeks, which made it easy to backtrack the women. Everybody else was healthy.[/QUOTE]An amazing statement. You had unprotected sex and insist it wasn't from any of that contact. I'm pretty sure if you told this to your doctor he would say the odds are you caught it doing bareback. Asking people if they have it isn't the same as them getting tested.

[QUOTE=]Most women with gonorrhea do not have any symptoms. Even when a woman has symptoms, they are often mild and can be mistaken for a bladder or vaginal infection. It is also possible to contract it after touching the affected area and then rubbing your eyes.

[url]http://www.cdc.gov/std/gonorrhea/stdfact-gonorrhea.htm[/url][/QUOTE]

You said it to Jimmyboy, you can't be positive where you caught it. Which is true since Jimmyboy was doing a tour of a bunch of clubs (and im guessing he did 'over 50' women). But in your case you said it yourself, you did a limited amount of women which made it easy to backtrack. In your case you could count them on one hand so the odds are in favor that you caught it from one of them.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1454572]You had unprotected sex and insist it wasn't from any of that contact.[/QUOTE]No, it wasn't. In all they were 8 women and none of them stopped partying for one day, except for 5 of them from the same place spending a morning at the doctor's for nothing. So how can I have gotten it from anyone of them, when they didn't have it and the other 3 didn't give it to their husbands and any of the other guys they were with? And to mention my first encounter 17 years ago again, where I had gotten it from rubberfucking. I'd say it's about time to wake up and look for the real ways of transmitting this disease, because it's not sexually transmitted initially. Kinda like a stomach bug isn't transmitted by food.

And yes, if someone already has yellowish drippings and finds someone to have sex with who doesn't notice that, THEN of course I think it will be transmitted sexually TOO. This of course all pertains to gonorrhea only, and I have written quite enough on this matter by now.

[QUOTE=SwingerLover;1454612]I'd say it's about time to wake up and look for the real ways of transmitting this disease, because it's not sexually transmitted initially. Kinda like a stomach bug isn't transmitted by food.[/QUOTE]So now gonorrhea is not an STD? LOL.

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1454615]So now gonorrhea is not an STD? LOL.[/QUOTE]No it's not. Not to my experience and knowledge. It's only an SD, but no STD. Do you have any personal experience regarding this subject matter? Or are you just LOLing because everybody else tells you the earth is flat?

[QUOTE=SwingerLover;1454622]No it's not. Not to my experience and knowledge. It's only an SD, but no STD. Do you have any personal experience regarding this subject matter? Or are you just LOLing because everybody else tells you the earth is flat?[/QUOTE]I think that you are the flat earther. Just stop relying on your experience and limited knowledge and read a few good medical texts which accurately summarise the science of the issue. ROFL.

[QUOTE=SwingerLover;1454612]No, it wasn't. In all they were 8 women and none of them stopped partying for one day, except for 5 of them from the same place spending a morning at the doctor's for nothing. So how can I have gotten it from anyone of them, when they didn't have it and the other 3 didn't give it to their husbands and any of the other guys they were with? And to mention my first encounter 17 years ago again, where I had gotten it from rubberfucking. I'd say it's about time to wake up and look for the real ways of transmitting this disease, because it's not sexually transmitted initially. Kinda like a stomach bug isn't transmitted by food.[/QUOTE]Dreams provided insight to your situation.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1454039]The risk of STd is directly proportionnal to the number of encounters, and then with the kind of practices. The guy who gets once a year a cover BJ is less likely to get anything than the guy who fucks 3-4 women every week BB.[/QUOTE]Eight women barebacked is a much larger risk than say picking one or two. We can all agree that the more dangerous practices we delve into, the higher the risk. Stating that your case of gonnorhea 'couldn't' have come from bareback is a ludicrous statement to say the least.

[QUOTE=SwingerLover;1454622]No it's not. Not to my experience and knowledge. It's only an SD, but no STD. Do you have any personal experience regarding this subject matter? Or are you just LOLing because everybody else tells you the earth is flat?[/QUOTE]I really think as mentioned previously you really need to do some research into published medical journals. I was going to suggest perhaps a medical thread, but this is just common sense if you are engaging bb practice with working girls to do your own research before engaging.

Hessen Bub. Your PM facility is full up :( Penalty for being so popular :)