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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2610359]
Most of us are biased, in many different ways. We're biased towards our professions, our hobbies, our alma mater, and much more. Quite often we end up with opinions which are completely off base, because we're looking at things from our biased perspective.
[/QUOTE]Very true about bias. And unfortunately not many of us recognise it. We would all be better people if we could.
"Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in a while, or the light won't come in. " - Isaac Asimov.
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[QUOTE=RacShack;2610513]When my friend asked tony about that price list of course he respond with that's 5 year ago sign! Ha ha ha he's a crook, bottom line, not sure why or how he lasted![/QUOTE]My dumbass saw him on youtube and judged his character off of that.
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2610359]I'm wondering how many of you guys actually know this man? It seems like more than one of you know much more about him than what is in the news.
I haven't a clue about him. I don't know if he was just paying women for sex, or if he was abusing them. I'm guessing that nobody else here knows either.[/QUOTE]You are falling into the trap of whether he is a good guy or not. That is not relevant. He was charged under the Mann Act. Prostitution is allowed under federal law. That is why it is legal in Nevada. You want to fuck a ho in Maryland, under federal law, you are fine. Fuck a Virginia ho and you are fine. Take a Virginia ho to Maryland, and the feds got you on trafficking, and they are going to show no mercy in the current climate. Trafficking has the potential to get you a lifetime sentence so you are going to plead out.
I think he was prosecuted under state law for prostitution. The state probably found evidence he took one of his hos, sugar babies out of state and I think paid her $5000. It was no contest. As for the women vouching for the man, shit, the feds got that covered. See the link: [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_Act[/URL].
"The penalties would be applied to men whether or not the woman involved consented and, if she had consented, the woman could be considered an accessory to the offense."
And he did it. He admitted transferring one of his WGs over state lines.
Based on experience and talking to lawyers, this guy probably got fleeced to a few million by defense attorneys. The notion that defense attorneys are not in cahoots with prosecutors is a hoot. When you get this much money to defense attorneys, they know to share the wealth. Whether the prosecutor got a sweet gig with the defense attorneys IMO is just one of many perks. Of the hundreds of thousands the guy was forced to pay to marriage counseling and a psychiatrist. My guess is the judge's wife just so happens to be a marriage counselor and the psychiatrist is banging him on the side.
At the federal level, I can see the judge having a brother in law running a prison with a low census and the judge wanting to help him out.
I don't know any of that, but from what I have seen, I expect that type of setup to happen.
What amazes me is guys who are mongers do not get the same thing as this guy. The difference now is the feds are enforcing the law. Tall man takes a chick from Medellin to Cartagena and goes on a moral rampage against this guy. Prosecutors and the judge can say whatever they want. They have immunity, and they are not going to say they put a good gut in jail.
As for the victims, it wouldn't surprise me that there were two of these lawyers in a strip club laughing at what they did. "Can you believe we got the press to print an article where we made cocaine addicted hos, strippers and sugar babies into victims?" The other would respond, "Yeah, maybe they can get their PHDs now" and had a laugh. That is what I expect from the American Injustice system.
The thing that gets me is how mongers are so blind to what is going on. Sure, they may be banging women and maybe bring one with them along with them on a trip, but LE would never come after them. Nah, LE likes them. Hell, if you asked the average American monger if he is law abiding, he would say yes. I do not know where this delusion comes from but it is there.
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[QUOTE=HighOnTravel;2610572]This place is a real overrated shithole. Beaches are ugly and every one and their cousin are out to scam you. The pros are not that great either IMO. Granted I only went put one night so far to clock tower area. I walked around drinking beer looking for a girl to turn me on enough while I got a buzz. Fending off scammers left and right.
One girl aggressively hugged me and I oushed her off as I knew she wanted in my pockets. This same chick brought an entire mariachi band with her plus 2 friends a few hours later in the night and tried to again grab me while this band if street performers played and offered me coke. I literally ran away LOL. I ended up in some after hours club called space. The best looking girl. There approached me and sat down wanted 300 k pesos I told her 200 and its a deal. We left got home she proceeded to put a condom on me and gave the most mechanical sex possible. I pulled her off and said no condom. She wanted 50 usd more. I said fine because you def aren't making me hard enough to fuck you with a condom.
The sex was very boring mechanical. She had a private driver come pick her up and said she wanted to get my nu ber and go to the beach with me. I told her that she fucks like a robot and I am not interested. She seemed upset and left.
The next day a non pro I had been chatting with on bumble dating app came over. She didn't look as good as the pro but the sex was way better and more intimate. ID give her a 6 or 7 best looks wise though. Seemed like a nice caring girl though..[/QUOTE]And this is why this forum is here, so you can find out if a city is going to be a good fit for you before you commit to spending a month there.
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People in Cartagena can smell an attitude like yours a mile away, Good luck because you're going to need it.
[QUOTE=HighOnTravel;2610572]This place is a real overrated shithole. Beaches are ugly and every one and their cousin are out to scam you. The pros are not that great either IMO. Granted I only went put one night so far to clock tower area. I walked around drinking beer looking for a girl to turn me on enough while I got a buzz. Fending off scammers left and right.
One girl aggressively hugged me and I oushed her off as I knew she wanted in my pockets. This same chick brought an entire mariachi band with her plus 2 friends a few hours later in the night and tried to again grab me while this band if street performers played and offered me coke. I literally ran away LOL. I ended up in some after hours club called space. The best looking girl. There approached me and sat down wanted 300 k pesos I told her 200 and its a deal. We left got home she proceeded to put a condom on me and gave the most mechanical sex possible. I pulled her off and said no condom. She wanted 50 usd more. I said fine because you def aren't making me hard enough to fuck you with a condom.
The sex was very boring mechanical. She had a private driver come pick her up and said she wanted to get my nu ber and go to the beach with me. I told her that she fucks like a robot and I am not interested. She seemed upset and left.
The next day a non pro I had been chatting with on bumble dating app came over. She didn't look as good as the pro but the sex was way better and more intimate. ID give her a 6 or 7 best looks wise though. Seemed like a nice caring girl though.
We went to the beach where I feel victim to the free oyster scam at boca grande. They come and tell you free samples then demand money later. Long story short I woke up with severe food poisoning next day. Projectile vomiting and just extremely sick. 99 out of 100 times I would never accept raw shellfish from a street vendor. I think being with that girl dropped my guard down as I was in a really good euphoric mood and on hydrocone pain killers at that moment..[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=HighOnTravel;2610572]This place is a real overrated shithole. Beaches are ugly and every one and their cousin are out to scam you. The pros are not that great either IMO. Granted I only went put one night so far to clock tower area. I walked around drinking beer looking for a girl to turn me on enough while I got a buzz. Fending off scammers left and right.
Also. My first impression of Columbians are that they are very dishonest people in general who will cheat you whenever possible. They always seem low key pissed off as well.
I was in the DR a few months ago and liked it much better. Never did the pro scene there though so can't comment on that.
Boca grande beach is uglier than any beach in China even that I ever ever visited. Filthy water as well. Will be here for 1 month unfortunately. I have little desire to even leave my room here tbh. And people say this one of the most beautiful cities in Columbia. Yikessss.[/QUOTE]You should definitely hurry up and leave. Why waste a month in such a horrible place.
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[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2610634]You should definitely hurry up and leave. Why waste a month in such a horrible place.[/QUOTE]Sounds like we have another troll on are Hands fellows!
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[QUOTE=Kafka;2610622]People in Cartagena can smell an attitude like yours a mile away, Good luck because you're going to need it.[/QUOTE]Blah blah blah here come the apologists. Could gaf less what the scammy ass locals think. Why don't you get on your knees and suck them off while you are at it? I am just stating my honest objectional first impressions. This city is hyped up big time online and on various travel websites.
The jewel of the Caribbean. That's hysterical actually. Are the beaches not hideous? Are there not hundreds of scammers everywhere you go trying to get your money? Are the pros not over priced and mediocre at best?
Am just calling a spade a spade. I came here wanting to love it. As soon as the plane circled over the city though while landing I could tell it was an ugly shithole. That being said, it's not all terrible. I have a great sky rise balcony over Boca Grande. Well beautiful until you look down at the beach at least and murky waters haha. I went to the walled city a few times. Its not nearly enough to make up for the filthy dark sludge looking water that surrounds the coast nor the gray sand that looks like one giant construction site. I have to imagine that you must have to have a huge Columbian fetish to like this place a lot. Both Miami and the DR are X1000 nicer places IMO.
So that leaves the only redeeming factor to be the pro scene which is very mediocre IMO. I will say this though. Bumble dating app is yielding some great results with non pros. Takes a lot of chatting and pipelining though. The pros seem pretty lame in general here. Not interested. I'm writing these reports for people who have never come and are reading into the hype like I did a few weeks ago. Everything I'm writing is non biased and just calling it like I see it.
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[QUOTE=Dublin12;2602555]Regarding 1 and 2. Those I made the long term offer to were told there would be a trial period. It was on the third day after this was concluded, Angela started to play up. I did not get rid of her immediately and gave her the benefit of the doubt about her "misunderstanding" the agreement, though if I am honest, I know in my own my mind she was really trying her luck. But after several other complaints from her in the space of a couple of hours, I told her to go. "Diahann Carroll" was also made the offer, but it was rescinded when I found that she had stolen 200 k, and worse still, brought coke into the apartment. Elena also accepted the offer of a trial period, but I got a vibe from her she was also going to misbehave, so I made it possible for her to steal 50 k and was proved right. Considering what my involvement with the duo that were pimping out cost me, I thought that was a bargain.
3. That's not what I have seen from the Thai TP.
5. It was not an orgy with more than one girl. The hag slept in the spare room. And on the occasion when they scammed me, both stayed in the spare room.[/QUOTE]Not sure why everyone us attacking you. You made some really foolish errors for sure but your posts are the most honest and accurate ones I have read on this entire subform about the Cartagena pro scene. Its downright terrible IMO. The pros are no bueno here. These guys just have some extreme fetish for Columbian women or something. The only other place well known for it that is worst for pros is las Vegas IMO. The girls just look dead in their eyes to me. All of them. Their looks are nothing to write home about either. The non pro Columbians can be drop dead gorgeous though I've noticed.
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On the money
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2610592]
What amazes me is guys who are mongers do not get the same thing as this guy. The difference now is the feds are enforcing the law. Tall man takes a chick from Medellin to Cartagena and goes on a moral rampage against this guy. Prosecutors and the judge can say whatever they want. They have immunity, and they are not going to say they put a good gut in jail.
As for the victims, it wouldn't surprise me that there were two of these lawyers in a strip club laughing at what they did. "Can you believe we got the press to print an article where we made cocaine addicted hos, strippers and sugar babies into victims?" The other would respond, "Yeah, maybe they can get their PHDs now" and had a laugh. That is what I expect from the American Injustice system.
The thing that gets me is how mongers are so blind to what is going on. Sure, they may be banging women and maybe bring one with them along with them on a trip, but LE would never come after them. Nah, LE likes them. Hell, if you asked the average American monger if he is law abiding, he would say yes. I do not know where this delusion comes from but it is there.[/QUOTE]
The fact they used "federal agents" for this shows how much of a joke the states have become. They made an example of him, and you bet the prosecution and defense was laughing all the way to the bank. rules for civilians, but not celebrities, politicians, or those with connections.
Something about a savior complex some people have here, nobody bats an eye when mongers post pictures of putas on here, god forbid a millionaire in baltimore (failed city) has some fetish and wants to video a drug addicted stripper with a dildo because his "trophy" wife won't fuck him anymore. meanwhile, a scumbag like george floyd is portrayed as hero by the media and funneled into a major political movement, while the cum rags known as the media vilify a guy banging some chicks onthe side and throw the book at him, essentially ruining his life. fair.
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[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2610783]The fact they used "federal agents" for this shows how much of a joke the states have become. They made an example of him, and you bet the prosecution and defense was laughing all the way to the bank. rules for civilians, but not celebrities, politicians, or those with connections.
Something about a savior complex some people have here, nobody bats an eye when mongers post pictures of putas on here, god forbid a millionaire in baltimore (failed city) has some fetish and wants to video a drug addicted stripper with a dildo because his "trophy" wife won't fuck him anymore. meanwhile, a scumbag like george floyd is portrayed as hero by the media and funneled into a major political movement, while the cum rags known as the media vilify a guy banging some chicks onthe side and throw the book at him, essentially ruining his life. fair.[/QUOTE]Again. Do you actually know the guy the story is about? Because it appears that nobody commenting on this story knows anything about it. They either accept the story at face value, or they reject everything in the story, simply because it is in the story. To top it off you've got people speculating on the actions of people who aren't even mentioned in the story.
Let's start with some basics. You're going to have a difficult time finding hookers in the US who are addicted to, or even using cocaine. They're addicted to Heroin, Fentanyl, methamphetamines or opioid pain killers. There's no physical compulsion to addict you to cocaine. If you can't get any more, you just go to sleep, because you've been awake for however long the cocaine lasts. With the various opioids, withdrawals can be fatal. That's why people who wouldn't normally steal, or sell their ass will end up doing almost anything to get more of their drug.
That's a problem that goes both ways. If you're a john, you run a lot of risks when dealing with addicts. There's the risk of getting poked with a dirty needle, along with many health risks, since HIV and Hepatitis are both common with IV drug addicts. Many of them live in filth and squalor, who knows what types of parasites have made a nest in their bed. Then there's the simple risk that their addict boyfriend / pimp will rob or kill you.
For the addicted hookers, there are plenty of guys happy to exploit the addiction, because the girls are disposable. They're probably going to end up dead or in prison soon, so the bad guys figure they can do whatever they want up to and including giving them an overdose.
That's the reality of the addicted prostitution game in the US. Most of the customers are just guys who can't afford the price of a hooker who isn't addicted to something. Some of the customers specifically seek out the addicts, because that excites them. Then there are the few who are sadists or psychos who are looking for easy victims.
So which was the guy who got arrested? Obviously he wasn't dealing with addicts because he couldn't afford better. I don't know whether he's just a guy with a weird fetish, or whether he's a guy who gets his kicks from hurting others and destroying lives. And it appears that nobody else on this conversation knows either. Choosing a side at this point seems premature.
After all, 2 months from now, if it comes out that the guy was guilty of some pretty horrible shit, how many of the guys who are standing in his corner are going to step up and admit they were wrong (or admit that they're into the same sick things)?
Tall Man might have went overboard with his crucifixion post, but he did at least clarify the types of behavior he was condemning.
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Cautionary tale alert
[QUOTE=HighOnTravel;2610648]Blah blah blah here come the apologists. Could gaf less what the scammy ass locals think. Why don't you get on your knees and suck them off while you are at it? I am just stating my honest objectional first impressions. This city is hyped up big time online and on various travel websites.
The jewel of the Caribbean. That's hysterical actually. Are the beaches not hideous? Are there not hundreds of scammers everywhere you go trying to get your money? Are the pros not over priced and mediocre at best?
Am just calling a spade a spade. I came here wanting to love it. As soon as the plane circled over the city though while landing I could tell it was an ugly shithole. That being said, it's not all terrible. I have a great sky rise balcony over Boca Grande. Well beautiful until you look down at the beach at least and murky waters haha. I went to the walled city a few times. Its not nearly enough to make up for the filthy dark sludge looking water that surrounds the coast nor the gray sand that looks like one giant construction site. I have to imagine that you must have to have a huge Columbian fetish to like this place a lot. Both Miami and the DR are X1000 nicer places IMO.[/QUOTE]The internet is full of lies!
I've been burned buying into the hype, but we are culpable, we wanted to believe it, so we did.
You have 4 posts, learn to filter out the BS many guys are like little boys that go crazy the 1st time they encounter a vagina (and have never had free sex in their entire lives).
Some of the most active threads are the most misleading and many of the most prolific posters are cheerleaders (certainly not all).
Do your due diligence and read many pages and filter out the children and you'll be OK, there is a learning curve here.
Some websites have members rate other members to gauge their credibility and accuracy, that would be awesome here.
I've been burned badly, but you must own some blame, just don't let it happen again.
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2610791]You're going to have a difficult time finding hookers in the US who are addicted to, or even using cocaine. They're addicted to Heroin, Fentanyl, methamphetamines or opioid pain killers. There's no physical compulsion to addict you to cocaine. If you can't get any more, you just go to sleep, .[/QUOTE]Spoken just like a man that has never heard NWA's smash hit, Dopeman:
"Do anything for a hit or two.
Give tha b!tch a rock, she'll fuck the whole damn crew.
It might be your wife and it might make you sick.
Come home and see her mouth on the dopeman's dick".
Or seen the blockbuster film New Jack City.
Gee Money: "but what I do know, is that they be going crazy over this, man! I'm tellin' you! And the bitches? Oh, Lord! The bitches! Yo! They do anything for this, man! Yo, I had my jimmy waxed every day last week, ya understand?! Several times a day!
Or run into a geek monster on the inner-city USA streets in the 80's and 90's.
Free Baltimore Morebucks!
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2610861]Spoken just like a man that has never heard NWA's smash hit, Dopeman:
"Do anything for a hit or two.
Give tha b!tch a rock, she'll fuck the whole damn crew.
It might be your wife and it might make you sick.
Come home and see her mouth on the dopeman's dick".
Or seen the blockbuster film New Jack City.
Gee Money: "but what I do know, is that they be going crazy over this, man! I'm tellin' you! And the bitches? Oh, Lord! The bitches! Yo! They do anything for this, man! Yo, I had my jimmy waxed every day last week, ya understand?! Several times a day!
Or run into a geek monster on the inner-city USA streets in the 80's and 90's.
Free Baltimore Morebucks![/QUOTE]Just look at all the Asian scat porn online jajajaaaaaa.
Meth is very popular in BKK and the PI, or are they doing it to buy rice? Jajajajaaaaaaaa.
Maybe 10 yrs ago there was a story in the news from Gary Ind (really an exburb of Chicago).
A dood was driving around in a van picking up street putas and paying them with "rocks" to blow his dog whilst he filmed it jajajaaaaaaaaaa.
Mother Teresa would be so proud jajajaaaaaaaaa.
Just google Zoo porn LOL.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2610861]Spoken just like a man that has never heard NWA's smash hit, Dopeman:
"Do anything for a hit or two.
Give tha b!tch a rock, she'll fuck the whole damn crew.
It might be your wife and it might make you sick.
Come home and see her mouth on the dopeman's dick".
Or seen the blockbuster film New Jack City.
Gee Money: "but what I do know, is that they be going crazy over this, man! I'm tellin' you! And the bitches? Oh, Lord! The bitches! Yo! They do anything for this, man! Yo, I had my jimmy waxed every day last week, ya understand?! Several times a day!
Or run into a geek monster on the inner-city USA streets in the 80's and 90's.
Free Baltimore Morebucks![/QUOTE]You're confusing crack with cocaine. Yes, crack is a form of cocaine, but it's waned in popularity, mainly because crystal meth is more readily available. Since we're not still living in 1993 and most mongers aren't getting their girls off the inner city streets, crack isn't nearly as common as what I already mentioned.
Or to simplify it for you, if you're in Colombia and have just bought some cocaine, which is more likely, that you've got a rock to smoke, or you've got some coke to snort. Take all the time you need.
If someone is talking about girls hooked on drugs and the only thing they mention is "cocaine" they're completely out of touch with the reality of the current situation.
I guess I screwed up. I didn't get my knowledge of drugs from a Walkman. I just went out and did them and then learned the hard way.