Angeles City

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1815592]Well that was back in the 90's. It was all supply and demand. The Mongering Population was very small back then. So these girls did not know there true value. Fastfoward into 2016 with the internet now and more mongers willing to throw money at them, these girls don't feel they have to work as hard anymore. Remember the average bar fine is about anywhere from 1500-3000 and they only get half of that, they have to split it with the bar owners. So they only get about anywhere from 700-1500 pesos and I have to have sex with guys I barley know and just met 30 minutes ago. When I can find me a few whales a night that need attention by buying a lot of lady drinks, throwing money and ringing bells and I don't have to feel used or a smut.[/QUOTE]You hit it right on the head. They didn't know their true value back then. We live in inflationary times now! I so wish I was able to visit back in the 80's and 90's Ended up going 20-25 years too late in 2011 with a buddy of mine. Had a complete blast! First night, I got it in with a cute pie with a thick body. Then she gave me some more in the morning. I had met up with 2 gals from FB and one in Subic was waiting for my call too. We ended up going to Cherry's, Mirror's in Clark Hotel, Brass Knob, Dirty Duck and a few others I can't remember. Even went to the Jolly Frog on Perimeter Road but it was a little dead there. Of course I ended the trip with a nice piece who worked at ABC Hotel. I think the lowest barfine was 1000 pesos and the highest was 1800. I didn't experience any rejection going on but that could have been because I was with my buddy who's a regular there in AC. But it also could have been because I wasn't afraid to buy a few drinks for the gals. Haha. I am going back in February and I hope these new attitudes does not ruin it.

[QUOTE=JohnTraveller;1815451]Just finished another visit in AC. Some bars I liked on Fields this time: Bunny Ranch, Shooters, Lollipop, After Dark. On Perimeter: Night Moves, Magic City, Lost In Asa.

There are some complaints on this board on AC about poor line-ups, runners, rejections. While I do recognise some of this I will still recommend a visit here. Just don't go out on Sundays, half the girls have that day off (often the most attractive ones). Also you should avoid the Christmas period. The last good day was December 12th. It doesn't improve again until mid-January or so. They take long vacations in this country! This means fewers girls in the bars. And more beggars on the street, everywhere in the PI they now sing Christmas carols with an outstreched hand.

AC bars has never been point-and-pick style. Better to go to Manila or Thailand for that. But this city has some interesting pecularities. I too liked the old AC better, but that's some years ago now, already in 2013 the situation was like now, no changes since then.[/QUOTE]Oh yes! The Singing Mendicants are out in force chasing foreigners down the streets as they serenade with outstretch palms. I have lost count of the number of times that I have been rudely interrupted during a meal at a restaurant by some mendicant trying to collect funds. They normally have the courtesy to waylay me entering or leaving the premises during the rest of the year but the Christmas season has emboldened them. Apparently, the mall and restaurant security guards are instructed or inclined to look the other way during this joyful period.

My girlfriend even had this harebrained to go out and help this down and out Aussie vagrant she saw on the street being tormented by the native kids. Her reasoning is that since he is a foreigner and I am a foreigner I am obligated to help him out. I tried to explain to her that the Aussie only has to walk into the embassy and he would be back in The Land O' Plenty as if by magic. But she wasn't having it. She just does not believe that Aussies have it that good even with the drastic currency downgrade.

[QUOTE=Noruego;1816524]Hi guys,

I am going to AC middle of January and will be there approx 2 weeks (Then going to Thailand).

Do you guys know how it works if I meet a girl in a bar and would like to stay several days with her.

Do I have to pay BF to the bar for the days I spend with the girl and she is not working, or can I just pay it to the girl?

What do you guys think is a respectful tip to the girl?[/QUOTE]You pay one big bar fine to the bar for however many days you want to take the girl. Out. I am here now and doing that now, took a girl from Crystal Palace for ten days. Paid one large sum for all of the days up front to the bar.

Chris

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1816706]My girlfriend even had this harebrained to go out and help this down and out Aussie vagrant she saw on the street being tormented by the native kids. Her reasoning is that since he is a foreigner and I am a foreigner I am obligated to help him out. I tried to explain to her that the Aussie only has to walk into the embassy and he would be back in The Land O' Plenty as if by magic. But she wasn't having it. She just does not believe that Aussies have it that good even with the drastic currency downgrade.[/QUOTE]I was in Manila 10 days ago and I realized what I was going to face during the Christmas and I bailed out and returned to USA. Everyone was hitting me up for some kind of a present or donation. It was annoying.

Day Eight.

Sunday, I wake up and all I can think about is Lhexi. Walking around Angeles on Sunday afternoon I see a few punters will some real arm candy in tow. Obviously these guys have bar fined long term with these girls and I think to myself I would really like to try the girlfriend thing and there is now one I would like to do that with more than Lhexi. So I avoid any daytime activities and wait until seven pm and go over to Crystal Palace I tell the waitress I am there to see Lhexi and she goes and gets her from the dressing room for me. She is a total vision when she comes out like a young Denise Richards from the movie Wild Things. She is happy to see me we embrace she warm cuddly kissing and I tell her I want to bar fine her again tonight. We sit we talk for nearly two hours before we decide to go. As we sit there I notice that all of the super hotties in Crystal Palace are getting picked by the punters sitting there. The laser gets shined on one hottie she comes down and sits with a guy then another hottie then another then another. By 9:30 all of the super hotties seem to be taken all ready. As for me I have a night of passion and romance and cuddling ahead of me with Lhexi.

Day Nine.

Monday, Decide to bar fine Lhexi for the entire week. We spend the day together walking talking eating boom boom. We goover to the bar at seven where I pay the bar fine for the week. Then back to more talking walking and boom boom with Lhexi. We do some bar hopping Monday night but the talent level is pretty weak in all the bars we stop in. It seems the best girls all have Monday night off.

Day Ten.

Another day with Lhexi. Wallking Talking Boom boom. Take her out to High Society and notice there are some real Dime Pieces to be had in High Society, making me wish I had not taken Lhexi for the entire week as there are some major Dime Pieces with a capital the to be found in High Society at night. We dance we drink, Lhexi gets pretty drunk. We walk back to the room she's very talkative. Her boyfriend knew she was working at Crystal Palace but he didn't mind because she give him money. Told me her first customer at Crystal Palace was Darrick the owner of the Doll House Group. Say he always boom booms the new girls the first time (it's good to be the king).

Thoughts So Far:

So far I am still impressed with Angeles. Have been out the past three nights on walking street with Lhexi and there seemed to be enough good talent available on walking street to make it worthwhile. Not sure what the rejection level would have been like as I have been with Lhexi the whole time and have not been trying to pick up other girls. It does appear that the girls at Crystal Palace and Doll House rarely reject any one.

Chris, have been reading your daily trip reports with interest, just a couple of weeks back you were telling this board that the girls of angeles city were low grade and that more than 50% of girls refused barfines, yes I know you wrote this before your visit now,are you saying there has been a 100% turn around,

As you apreciate Christmas time is when most of the girls and especially the cuter girls head for their home towns to spend time with their familys yet you are claiming that angeles is full of extremely attractive girls, I was there just a couple of weeks ago and struggled to see any girls in crystal palace bar, dollhouse bar and most of the other bars that you mention that I would have chosen to take out.

Could it be that angeles has changed from black to white in just a few days maybe posting a photo of your bar girl Lexhi that you claim is an 11 out of 10 super model,(does not have to be naked fully clothed is fine) for me and the board to see what an angeles super model looks like as I in 15 years of constant trips to angeles have never seen a bar girl that one could even remotely call a super model, I do realise that your 11 might be my 2 and vise versa.

I have 3 friends in angeles right now who I keep in daily contact with, I know many bar owners there and all are telling me the bars are very quiet for both customers and especially numbers of girls, that bar girl quality is well down like always this time of year, most other angeles forums are reporting the same so I am confused, as I say a photo of Lexhi will help clear up any confusion.

Anyways, glad you are enjoying your latest trip.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1816991]Chris, have been reading your daily trip reports with interest, just a couple of weeks back you were telling this board that the girls of angeles city were low grade and that more than 50% of girls refused barfines, yes I know you wrote this before your visit now,are you saying there has been a 100% turn around,

As you apreciate Christmas time is when most of the girls and especially the cuter girls head for their home towns to spend time with their familys yet you are claiming that angeles is full of extremely attractive girls, I was there just a couple of weeks ago and struggled to see any girls in crystal palace bar, dollhouse bar and most of the other bars that you mention that I would have chosen to take out.

Could it be that angeles has changed from black to white in just a few days maybe posting a photo of your bar girl Lexhi that you claim is an 11 out of 10 super model,(does not have to be naked fully clothed is fine) for me and the board to see what an angeles super model looks like as I in 15 years of constant trips to angeles have never seen a bar girl that one could even remotely call a super model, I do realise that your 11 might be my 2 and vise versa.

I have 3 friends in angeles right now who I keep in daily contact with, I know many bar owners there and all are telling me the bars are very quiet for both customers and especially numbers of girls, that bar girl quality is well down like always this time of year, most other angeles forums are reporting the same so I am confused, as I say a photo of Lexhi will help clear up any confusion.

Anyways, glad you are enjoying your latest trip.[/QUOTE]It's extremely quiet this year. Last night bunny ranch had only 6 girls.

[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1816912]. . . I think to myself I would really like to try the girlfriend thing and there is now one I would like to do that with more than Lhexi.[/QUOTE]Interesting turn of events. You went from feeling despondent and thinking of canceling your Philippines visit to going all in. These AC-bargirl and foreign-visitor romances often work out very well for one of the parties involved. Since you'll be in AC for a while it'll be interesting to see where things stand 30-60 days from now.

[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1816912]So I avoid any daytime activities . . . [/QUOTE]Why? For the girlfriend thing?

[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1816912]As for me I have a night of passion and romance and cuddling ahead of me with Lhexi.[/QUOTE]Fantastic.

[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1816912]Monday, Decide to bar fine Lhexi for the entire week. [/QUOTE]Budding romance. If things proceed well ask whether her name is really Lhexi. It could be Mary Joy, Mary Grace, or even Mary Mary.

[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1816912]. . . making me wish I had not taken Lhexi for the entire week [/QUOTE]Uh-oh.

I'm glad you're finding AC more to your liking on this go. Look forward to reading your updates.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1816991]Chris, have been reading your daily trip reports with interest, just a couple of weeks back you were telling this board that the girls of angeles city were low grade and that more than 50% of girls refused barfines, yes I know you wrote this before your visit now,are you saying there has been a 100% turn around,

As you apreciate Christmas time is when most of the girls and especially the cuter girls head for their home towns to spend time with their familys yet you are claiming that angeles is full of extremely attractive girls, I was there just a couple of weeks ago and struggled to see any girls in crystal palace bar, dollhouse bar and most of the other bars that you mention that I would have chosen to take out..[/QUOTE]It could be that many of the super hotties are gone and the numbers are down. But there is still enough hot ones to make being here worth while. When I was sitting in Crystal Palace waiting for Lhexi Sunday and Monday. We hung out there from abound 7 pm until a little after 9 pm and in that time I would say just about every hottie had the laser shined on her and was chosen by someone. I think most of the super hotties get taken fast. Was in High Society last night and there were some real Dime Pieces to be found there but by 1 am the crowd was thinning out and the number of Dime Pieces was dwindling, I think most guys hit on them early and take them out early.

Chris

[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1815257]It is 'true there is something different about all the Latin American destinations and here. It is the difference between day and night Latin America / South America / Medellin destinations and AC / Asian destinations. I have been to all of the destination in Latin America several times, especially Medellin. I have never ever in my life heard a Latin American working girl say she's on mens. Many guys don't speak Spanish and very few less than 10% of the girls will speak English. I've seen guys who can't speak Spanish simply walk up to the girl they want take her by the hand and walk her back to his room with out a single word being spoken between the two of them. In Latin American gogo / strip bars on more times than I can remember I have simply made eye contact with the girl I wanted smiled and with my eyes looked at her and then moved my eyes to the door and she's climbed down off the stage and came over to go with me. In a Latin American P4 P disco your felt up groped you ass is grabbed your crotch is grabbed the girls pull at you try to take your hand your greeted with ear to ear smiles. There is something exhilarating about knowing you can fuck any girl in the place. Which ever girl you chose is going to tell you yes and going to fuck you as long as you have the price of admission.

Any one used to the Latin American scene is in shock the first time they come to Angeles. I know I was, I was in disbelief and could not believe what I was hearing the first time a girl told me she was on mens. I was also in shock when I saw the amount of scowls dirty looks and ignoring you get from door girls, gogo girls and P4 P girls here in general.

Yes Latin American P4P and Angeles P4 P are different animals.

Chris[/QUOTE]Chris long, couple of days ago you wrote the above flowing report pointing out that latin / south american destinations were far superior to angeles city.

a while back you wrote the complete opposite, you wrote this-.

Angels city is without a doubt the meca of mongering. It surpasses any place in latin america. The women can be truly beautiful.

chris with all due respect,Not sure what to make of some of your posts, maybe sticking to one or the other might stop me and other board members getting confused and able to make informed decisions on whether to visit or not to visit a certain destination.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1817102]Chris long, couple of days ago you wrote the above flowing report pointing out that latin / south american destinations were far superior to angeles city.

a while back you wrote the complete opposite, you wrote this-.

Angels city is without a doubt the meca of mongering. It surpasses any place in latin america. The women can be truly beautiful.

chris with all due respect,Not sure what to make of some of your posts, maybe sticking to one or the other might stop other board members getting confused and able to make informed decisions on whether to visit or not to visit a certain destination.[/QUOTE]Angeles City is more out in the open very obvious, one giant party where services are always 100% natural no cover and once you get a girl the GFE is far superior to anything you will find any where else. In most Latin American destinations with the possible exceptions of Sosua or Boca in the DR. The P4P venues are more subdued for the most part more hidden and services are almost always covered at least until the girl gets to know you, sessions are often great but true long term GFE is harder to find in most Latin American destination. This didn't use to be true about Sosua but sadly today the long term GFE is harder and harder to find there. However, in Angeles you run the risk of being denied some times quite rudely by the girl who will turn you down flat. In every Latin American destination you are never denied and you are chased after for your money.

With out the at times extremely high levels of rejection. AC would surpass anywhere else in the world in my opinion (with the possible exception of Thailand). However the rejection levels can be seriously high in AC which makes it a roll of the dice as to if the trip will truly be the best experience ever to one of the worst experiences ever.

Chris

[QUOTE=Noruego;1816524]Hi guys,
I am going to AC middle of January and will be there approx 2 weeks (Then going to Thailand).
Do you guys know how it works if I meet a girl in a bar and would like to stay several days with her.
Do I have to pay BF to the bar for the days I spend with the girl and she is not working, or can I just pay it to the girl?
What do you guys think is a respectful tip to the girl?[/QUOTE]First take the girl overnight. Make sure you two hit it off well. The next day find out her work schedule. If she is working the next few days, and you want to keep her, then you will need to pay the barfine for those days. The barfine covers everything. It allows her to leave and go with you and sex of course. If you decide to tip her later, that is totally up to you (although it is not necessary since you have basically already paid. But it's a nice gesture to show your appreciation if she shows you great time).

If she has a scheduled day off, no need to pay the bar for that day. She can just stay with you. That's why you have to find out her schedule first.

One more thing, find out when she is due to have her period. Don't want or need a girl with you that you can totally enjoy.

Have fun!

[QUOTE=Noruego;1816524]Hi guys,

I am going to AC middle of January and will be there approx 2 weeks (Then going to Thailand).

Do you guys know how it works if I meet a girl in a bar and would like to stay several days with her.

Do I have to pay BF to the bar for the days I spend with the girl and she is not working, or can I just pay it to the girl?

What do you guys think is a respectful tip to the girl?[/QUOTE]Who says you need to pay bar fine for the days you want to take the girl?

Talk to the girl. Girls are free to go home whenever they want. She will tell the mamasan she is going home for a week and go with you. Of course the mamasan calls sometimes but that is not your problem. Girls are good liers.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1817167]Who says you need to pay bar fine for the days you want to take the girl?

Talk to the girl. Girls are free to go home whenever they want. She will tell the mamasan she is going home for a week and go with you. Of course the mamasan calls sometimes but that is not your problem. Girls are good liers.[/QUOTE]Have to totally agree with you.

In the days when girls actually fucked for a living I took many angeles girls to subic, cebu. Boracay,palawan,sometimes for days on end, never paid the bar at all.

As you say very easy for girls to tell the bar they are returning home to see family or any other excuse.

I always make it worth the girls while by giving her a nice tip or buying her something nice with the money I save from not paying the bar,

I know that some will say yes but if caught the bar will fire her, well not true, most angeles bars are crying out to employ attractive dancers and sure would not want to lose one, just look at the boards outside most bars stating girls wanted desperately, top money paid, she will not be out of work for even an hour IMHO.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1817170]Have to totally agree with you.

In the days when girls actually fucked for a living I took many angeles girls to subic, cebu. Boracay,palawan,sometimes for days on end, never paid the bar at all.

As you say very easy for girls to tell the bar they are returning home to see family or any other excuse.

I always make it worth the girls while by giving her a nice tip or buying her something nice with the money I save from not paying the bar,

I know that some will say yes but if caught the bar will fire her, well not true, most angeles bars are crying out to employ attractive dancers and sure would not want to lose one, just look at the boards outside most bars stating girls wanted desperately, top money paid, she will not be out of work for even an hour IMHO.[/QUOTE]Hi NS, I don't like the bar fine either unless I have to have her right away. Better to get her digits and see her before or after work. I have seen girls get fired, though, for doing this (if someone sees them).

Yes, they very much appreciate a nice gift and or comparable tip. The pi nays are so easy to please and so loving. Well, most of them.