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[QUOTE=DCups;1817173]Hi NS, I don't like the bar fine either unless I have to have her right away. Better to get her digits and see her before or after work. I have seen girls get fired, though, for doing this (if someone sees them).

Yes, they very much appreciate a nice gift and or comparable tip. The pi nays are so easy to please and so loving. Well, most of them.[/QUOTE] D cups, I think the secret is to take the girls out of angeles for the trip if you do not want for her or yourself to be seen.

I just cannot see the benifit of paying many days of barfines for the same girl up front to a bar.

The more sensible way if one wants to stay in angeles and see the same girl every day is to just arrange to pay the bar every day not all the money up front, too many things to go wrong.

Picture this, guy pays for 10-15 days barfine up front, girl is fine for first few days, fucks and sucks morning and night, after few days, sorry honey, not feel well, sorry honey have my period, no pussy honey for 7 days, sorry na honey.

As I say don't pay barfine and take girl somewhere else, if she starts to be a problem send her back to angeles on a cheap ferry / bus ticket and move on.

Pay many days barfine up front and wave good bye to our cash if troubles arise.

I have been a little surprised at all the negative vibes lately re Angeles City in general.

Glad to see someone having success and reporting it.

For myself, I am a strong AC beleiber.

Nowhere in the world have I found such easy access to young, sweet, thin f*ing machines.

I have over the years heard many guys on many angeles based boards claim that angeles city is the number 1 destination for GFE.

I have often wondered how this works and why guys believe its only alive and well in angeles or why people feel they need to seek it out.

I have always been of the thought that paying a prostitute to say the correct things, cater to a punters ego. Loneliness, lack of self esteem with terms like honey your so handsome, honey your so young looking, honey your not fat, honey your cock is so big, honey nobody made me cum as much as you etc etc was just that, paying a prostitute by the hour to basically lie to ones self.

its all just a deceipt, a game payed for by hard cash, a game that can be repeated through out asia not only angeles IMHO, all it takes is hard cash.

i do not look for gfe or seek it out,give me a hottie with a tight pussy who knows how to use it and i am happy, gfe not needed,i get that from my real girlfriend,

thoughts guys ???

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1817288]I have over the years heard many guys on many angeles based boards claim that angeles city is the number 1 destination for GFE.

I have often wondered how this works and why guys believe its only alive and well in angeles or why people feel they need to seek it out.

I have always been of the thought that paying a prostitute to say the correct things, cater to a punters ego. Loneliness, lack of self esteem with terms like honey your so handsome, honey your so young looking, honey your not fat, honey your cock is so big, honey nobody made me cum as much as you etc etc was just that, paying a prostitute by the hour to basically lie to ones self.

its all just a deceipt, a game payed for by hard cash, a game that can be repeated through out asia not only angeles IMHO, all it takes is hard cash.

i do not look for gfe or seek it out,give me a hottie with a tight pussy who knows how to use it and i am happy, gfe not needed,i get that from my real girlfriend,

thoughts guys ???[/QUOTE]What's not to understand? Most guys here would say you are already paying for GFE with your GF. You are paying for it one way or another.

I don't know if AC is actually #1 in this as I don't have other comparables.

I would further say most Johns paying for it aren't looking for GFE.

Other thoughts guys?

First a disclaimer: I am a long time ISG member, but had to delete my previous account due to a temporary change in personal circumstances. Thus this new account. With that said, would request to please refrain from the RTFF or other noob flames. If at all possible.

I have one (potentially not so simple) question and welcome your suggestions:

I will be in HKG in the middle of January for a week and in KL the following Monday for business. This gives me a weekend (Fri.-sun) to indulge.

The reason for posting this to the AC forum is because AC has been on my bucket list for a very long time. However, reading the posts over the past several months has gotten me very disillusioned. I'm now questioning whether I might be better served (pun intended) heading to Makati (done the EDSA, LA Cafe run before with much success), Pattaya, Macau, Bali, or Singapore instead. Or perhaps even stay in HK or head over to KL a few days early.

Most importantly, I don't want to waste half my weekend traveling and the other half with a hit or miss experience (fwiw, am Hispanic / American).

Welcome your thoughts!

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1817288]
i do not look for gfe or seek it out,give me a hottie with a tight pussy who knows how to use it and i am happy, gfe not needed,i get that from my real girlfriend,

thoughts guys ???[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1817336]

I don't know if AC is actually #1 in this as I don't have other comparables.

I would further say most Johns paying for it aren't looking for GFE.

Other thoughts guys?[/QUOTE]I should mention that I spend almost all my time with dating site girls, but use bargirls as a backup, when on the road, or entertaining out-of-town visitors. Dating site girls surpass everyone.

The remainder of my comment is about real working girls, bar girls, juicy girls, whatever you want to call them.

In Korea, Japan, Singabore and HK (non Filipino) it's strictly business. Granted, there are gems, but for the most part it's fuck and depart. I found one won't get anything close to a GFE; by GFE I mean friendly, affectionate, very pleasant to be with, fun loving, kissable, and little to no complaining.

Years ago I preferred Thailand to the Philippines because I found the Thai girls a bit more attractive, as GFE as Pinays, and since the English was usually poorer I was less likely to hear stories of woe and misfortune. Today I feel Thais are now less affectionate than Pinays; in all hospitality sectors it seems the Thais have become less welcoming to foreigners. I think they've grown weary of us.

Vietnamese are very good looking to my eye and decent GFE, though they're aggressive. Cambodians (Khmer) are less attractive than Thais, were so-so GFE, and also had an aversion to sucking dick. Poor English, too. Vietnamese in Cambodia are good looking but haughty, did suck dick, and low GFE.

I also do not take the same working girl for extended periods - no more than 2 days - because I'd get bored with them and I like variety. For those inclined to partner up with a girl for a while I think rapport counts for a lot. A so-so fuck with a great attitude and an eagerness to learn and please is a winner in my book. It takes a lot for me to overlook a shitty personality if I have to spend more than a few hours with a person. A great looking starfish does nothing for me.

I've seen two good friends absolutely lose their minds by becoming bewitched by individual AC bargirls. They were utterly obsessed, couldn't spend moments apart, and considered leaving their wives - these were men in their mid-30s. They even brought the girls back to Manila with them for their final day before flying out from NAIA. Puddles of tears from both the girl and the bloke on the terminal floor.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1817336]What's not to understand? Most guys here would say you are already paying for GFE with your GF. You are paying for it one way or another.[/QUOTE]This makes a great point. I think almost all of us would agree with this (paying for it one way or the other). However, while most all of us mongers would probably agree with this, there are quite a few non-mongers that either have never contemplated this, or mouth the words and then argue against it. I have had more than one married buddy (or divorced) who were stuck in terrible marriages (sexless), who ponied-up large dollars to keep their sexless wives happy (both domestic and foreign wives). Following their divorce, and then in the poor house, they don't see what has really happened: They have paid large dollars to not have sex (or have a wife who holds sex in exchange for things, ie living room furniture), while I am paying less to have a lot of sex. Jesus. They often times draw a sharp demarcation: "Your girl is a hooker Westy, even if you are not paying her directly. You buy her stuff. My woman was my wife. There's a difference". [B][I]Really! I am not convinced![/I][/B].

If you are getting GFE from GF what is the need to pay for sex with a tight pussy hottie?

[QUOTE=Hutsori;1817385]In Korea, Japan, Singabore and HK (non Filipino) it's strictly business. Granted, there are gems, but for the most part it's fuck and depart. I found one won't get anything close to a GFE; by GFE I mean friendly, affectionate, very pleasant to be with, fun loving, kissable, and little to no complaining..[/QUOTE]South Korea, Japan, Hong Kong and Singapore are what we call the (Asian Tigers), These are very rich countries with a High GDP and a High Standard of Living. You will not get GFE because most girls do not care to leave there home country. In The Philippines The Girls Are willing to offer more GFE because they hope that you will fall in love and hopefully want to marry them and Take them to America / Europe. In a Place like Japan for example its strictly business and its all about money because they don't care to leave Japan. Just like when you get escorts in the USA or Europe You will not get GFE.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1817443]If you are getting GFE from GF what is the need to pay for sex with a tight pussy hottie?[/QUOTE]Your question reaches outside the AC thread so even if I have no biz in AC I am able to answer it me thinks. I have a great GF back home provide we with all the sex I can handle. What she can not provide is the variety of pussy I need. I am a selfpromoted sexaddict and can not handle the same pussy over an extented period of time hence all the girls and change of pukie I am into. After my sprees in Makati or in other parts of the world, returning home to GF's pussy is like starting all over again (ie new pukie) which keeps me happy for a week or two. Its not like I would die without sex a day but its sure is a moodbraker. This year I habe never stayed home more than 3 weeks in a row so its been a good year and I even made it into phils 16 times (3 to 10 days stays).

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1817443]If you are getting GFE from GF what is the need to pay for sex with a tight pussy hottie?[/QUOTE]Thanks Dg for your reply, I will explain a bit.

The need for paying for sex with a girl that is not my long term girlfriend is just me being selfish, wanting the feel and excitement of the chase and some strange pussy.its not that my girlfriend does not supply me with lots of pussy but just like eating your favourite meal every night for months on end something different is a welcome delight,

Very hard for me to get away with here in thailand without my girlfriend finding out hence on my many buisiness trips to the pi I indulge in my fantasies,its just pure selfish sex for me,nothing more,i know i am paying for that pros time,without the money she would not be there with me,in fact she probably would not even say hello to me if i was not paying her,

As far as guys pay for it one way or the other, it is certainly not true in my relationship, my girlfriend is a professional very well educated,beautiful thai girl with her own company who earns more money per month than myself and needs no funds from me, we both work, we both share living expenses, we both treat each other to meals. Days out and we both buy the other the occasional gifts, I spend the same as her per month roughly and vice versa.

I do fully accept that many good girls, wives expect the guy to always pay just like a prostitute does and many a guy has been taken to the cleaners in divorce from good and bad girls, it just has not happened to me, when I date I date girls who can take care of themselves, when I want some quick fun I pay a prostitute, as I say I do not confuse the two, my girlfriend is for the I love you and cuddling up at night because she means it, my prostitutes are for sex and pure fun, nothing more.

Not trying to be smart or say hey look at me, just trying to be honest, i hope no members take offence.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1817444]Sout Korea, Japan, Hong Kong and Singapore are what we call the (Asian Tigers), These are very rich countries with a High GDP and a High Standard of Living. You will not get GFE because most girls do not care to leave there home country.[/QUOTE]This may be true in their home country, but not the case elsewhere. I live in the US and I have met many Korean working girls. They give some of the best GFE and it is easy to connect with them. I have been doing this for 8+ years, and just early this year, I visited a working girl in Seoul. I spent 4 days of bliss with her. She was also my tour guide there, having done the same for her here in the US. Moreover, I have an open invitation to visit Busan from another working girl. I may take her on it once the weather is a bit warmer.

[QUOTE=Mduga;1817355]
I will be in HKG in the middle of January for a week and in KL the following Monday for business. This gives me a weekend (Fri.-sun) to indulge.

The reason for posting this to the AC forum is because AC has been on my bucket list for a very long time. However, reading the posts over the past several months has gotten me very disillusioned. I'm now questioning whether I might be better served (pun intended) heading to Makati (done the EDSA, LA Cafe run before with much success), Pattaya, Macau, Bali, or Singapore instead. Or perhaps even stay in HK or head over to KL a few days early.

Most importantly, I don't want to waste half my weekend traveling and the other half with a hit or miss experience (fwiw, am Hispanic / American).

Welcome your thoughts![/QUOTE]Firstly, I think your arrival time on Friday, which is not mentioned, ought to be considered. If it's the morning then your transportation to AC is less a hassle than a Fri evening rush hour. You might not be hitting bars until late night. Of course your departing flight from Manila ought to be considered. Traffic on Sunday isn't bad, but if you need to leave early Sunday morning to catch your flight that cuts into your fun time.

If it's late Friday arrival and early Sunday departure I'd certainly stick in Manila.

Next, how many girls do you want to hook up with? In Manila you have 24hr LA, but from sunrise to 11 am there are just a handful of girls. You have afternoon options in Burgos and LA starts to fill in the afternoon, especially on weekends. In AC you have a lot more choice for morning and afternoon, and if you quickly join DIA and limit your search to AC you open up another possibility.

Your best option is to fly into Clark rather than NAIA, especially if you can book an outbound flight late Sunday night or early Monday morning. If that's not in the cards then it comes down to hours. If you have 48 hours [B]in AC[/B], say from Friday afternoon to Sunday afternoon, then it's worth the effort.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1817443]If you are getting GFE from GF what is the need to pay for sex with a tight pussy hottie?[/QUOTE]Variety. Hooking up with a new girl is more exciting. It's the charge of the unknown, the potential. I find it electrifying. Perhaps the GF isn't amenable to certain activities. I love lasagna, but no matter how delicious it is, and even when cooked in new ways, I don't want to eat it everyday. And lasagna won't let me fuck its ass. I love rugby, but rugby isn't going to lick my cum off my stomach and chest and roll it around in its mouth. You wouldn't dare even ask rugby to do that.

[QUOTE=Hutsori;1817572]And lasagna won't let me fuck its ass. I love rugby, but rugby isn't going to lick my cum off my stomach and chest and roll it around in its mouth. You wouldn't dare even ask rugby to do that.[/QUOTE]Actually that is how I fell in love with lasagna and rugby in the first place. Otherwise it would have been just like hot dogs and baseball to me and would never have become my favorites.