Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=Xxxplorer;2896720]When I look at a web site such as Photo Acompanhantes, the prices listed per hour show 150 to 300 BR. Yet when I read here I see that gals charge 1000 BR at Scandallo and 500 BR at Cssarao. Even the ugly gals on the street near Cassarao ask 300-500.

Why such price discrepancies with the internet prices? Is it gringo pricing?[/QUOTE]Photo Accompanates is usually bait and switch. You don't know what you are getting. Scandello and Casarao are boates where you see what you are getting. Even the internet escort sites are pretty reliable with what is coming to your door but they are more expensive.

Gringo pricing does exist. Just learn to negotiate.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2896207]I usually go to Scandello solo. You don't need to drink anything or smoke anything or even get a booth to attract the women. All the women are working girls. Take a shower, smell good and dress nice (I wear a pair of jeans and a polo) and be nice. Just use the consumable part for the girls drinks if you want. Walk around and talk to a few to get an idea of how it works and then make your choice. The girls are used to foreigners using Google translate so make sure you use it.

Good luck and report back!![/QUOTE]I will be in the area around 630 pm today. I am unlikely to session, but considering going in to check out the vibe, and maybe return another time. If I have just a beer or two what should I expect to spend. Again I will not likely spend time in rooms just a walk around and see what it is all about. Who knows maybe my eyes will pop and give up on my Scandello celibacy.

[QUOTE=Xxxplorer;2896857]I will be in the area around 630 pm today. I am unlikely to session, but considering going in to check out the vibe, and maybe return another time. If I have just a beer or two what should I expect to spend. Again I will not likely spend time in rooms just a walk around and see what it is all about. Who knows maybe my eyes will pop and give up on my Scandello celibacy.[/QUOTE]The entrada is 300 before 7 PM and 500 after 7 PM with 300 of it that you can spend on food and drinks. You might as well make a dinner out of it. I usually have a steak and a salad for about 250, probably more now. You can get a beer or coffee to spend the rest of the consumable. You are paying for the premium to get the girls easily that you can't otherwise if you are not young or handsome. Haha.

[QUOTE=Xxxplorer;2896857]I will be in the area around 630 pm today. I am unlikely to session, but considering going in to check out the vibe, and maybe return another time. If I have just a beer or two what should I expect to spend. Again I will not likely spend time in rooms just a walk around and see what it is all about. Who knows maybe my eyes will pop and give up on my Scandello celibacy.[/QUOTE]You are going to pay R300 for entry which can be used for consumption so you might as well eat and drink with that money. Since you are coming in at 630, you will get the second shift of girls plus the first so you should see some good quality. The last shift comes in by 9 I think so you could hang around for that. While hanging around, get phone numbers of girls if you aren't willing to session and tell them that you will arrange with them outside the club.

What percentage of the photos on photo accompaniments are fakes? The girls & prices is the main reason I am thinking of visiting Brazil. I am thinking that it is better to go to escorts places? Very few of the ad have reviews. So wondering if there is another sites that does?

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2896728]Photo Accompanates is usually bait and switch. You don't know what you are getting. Scandello and Casarao are boates where you see what you are getting. Even the internet escort sites are pretty reliable with what is coming to your door but they are more expensive.

Gringo pricing does exist. Just learn to negotiate.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2895825]Hey man, did this TIM location ask for your original passport? I went to two near where I stay and they couldn't sell me SIMs without my physical passport.[/QUOTE]Went to TIM store inside mall, Paulista. The main road of area. Next to bunch of federal offices. It is prepaid. No passport or ID required. Got two prepaid SIM. One for my buddy from Florida. Took about 30 min for them start to end. Worked well in entire city. I also tried claro, vivo and they wanted Brazilian cedula

[QUOTE=Hargow20;2896927]What percentage of the photos on photo accompaniments are fakes? The girls & prices is the main reason I am thinking of visiting Brazil. I am thinking that it is better to go to escorts places? Very few of the ad have reviews. So wondering if there is another sites that does?[/QUOTE]Forget photo accompaniments, mate. It is too much work to find a decent girl and you are right, hunting down reviews is often times a futile gesture.

If money is a concern, stick with clinicas and RTFF. There are a ton of reports on them in this forum. IMHO the Moema clinicas provide the best bang for the buck in all of South America. So, I am a fan as well as a frequent customer. And this advice is coming from a guy who also likes to spend his nights and $$ in boates like Scandallo & Bomboa. The bottom line is the clinicas are great!

[QUOTE=Xxxplorer;2896720]When I look at a web site such as Photo Acompanhantes, the prices listed per hour show 150 to 300 BR. Yet when I read here I see that gals charge 1000 BR at Scandallo and 500 BR at Cssarao. Even the ugly gals on the street near Cassarao ask 300-500.

Why such price discrepancies with the internet prices? Is it gringo pricing?[/QUOTE]This kind of contrast between online and clubs in just about every city. It's just a market segmentation.

Club girls: These girls may only get one client a day or one client every couple of days. They need to charge higher prices to make it worth it. However, these girls may have lower mileage. Clubs also have room costs. You also have the ability to see the girl before paying here. Further, clients at clubs tend to have more money, meaning not just foreigners but also locals. You go to a club expecting to pay 500-1000 Reais so the street girls charge proportionally more. If you have been to Medellin, it is the same as Centro vs Parque Lleras street girls.

Online: Since these girls are at a more accessible price point, they tend to get more clients. It's not rare to have an online girl get 5-7 clients per day which adds up to over 2000 Reais / day for some girls. This involves more actual sex though but the clients are just a text away. Bait and switch is also an issue here.

It all comes down to what kind of experience you prefer and what your budget is. Personally, from my time in Scandello, I haven't found any girl that is hot enough to justify spending an extra 700 Reais in Brazil. But for some more time poor and financially rich, or more discerning mongers, perhaps the story is different. Explore different options and see what works for you.

I'm with you on this. In my experience it's not really unique to Brazil. All the major metro areas around the world where I've been active (it's more than a few) have this kind of segmentation. The pattern I've noticed is the difference between the venue facilities is much bigger than the difference between the quality of the girls. The difference between the girls shrinks as you move toward the middle of the segments to the point that they are virtually indistinguishable when there is less than 20% cost difference. Scandallo is a place that fits well with the thriving businessman market in Sao Paulo. I think I am one of many who first experienced it while on a business trip. Think about Abbobora vs Scandallo. If you take away the sushi, cigars, and "elegant" facilities, would any of us seriously consider paying the 300%+ premium for the Scandallo girls?

[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2897006]This kind of contrast between online and clubs in just about every city. It's just a market segmentation.

Club girls: These girls may only get one client a day or one client every couple of days. They need to charge higher prices to make it worth it. However, these girls may have lower mileage. Clubs also have room costs. You also have the ability to see the girl before paying here. Further, clients at clubs tend to have more money, meaning not just foreigners but also locals. You go to a club expecting to pay 500-1000 Reais so the street girls charge proportionally more. If you have been to Medellin, it is the same as Centro vs Parque Lleras street girls.

Online: Since these girls are at a more accessible price point, they tend to get more clients. It's not rare to have an online girl get 5-7 clients per day which adds up to over 2000 Reais / day for some girls. This involves more actual sex though but the clients are just a text away. Bait and switch is also an issue here.

It all comes down to what kind of experience you prefer and what your budget is. Personally, from my time in Scandello, I haven't found any girl that is hot enough to justify spending an extra 700 Reais in Brazil. But for some more time poor and financially rich, or more discerning mongers, perhaps the story is different. Explore different options and see what works for you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2896207]I usually go to Scandello solo. You don't need to drink anything or smoke anything or even get a booth to attract the women. All the women are working girls. Take a shower, smell good and dress nice (I wear a pair of jeans and a polo) and be nice. Just use the consumable part for the girls drinks if you want. Walk around and talk to a few to get an idea of how it works and then make your choice. The girls are used to foreigners using Google translate so make sure you use it.

Good luck and report back!![/QUOTE]In the threads I've read (a lot of them) on the termas they say the sequence is to pay house fee then up to locker room into a bath robe and then back down to bars and lounges (in most cases anyway). When in Rome I guess, but doesn't a punter feel a bit odd sitting in a bathroom having dinner or drinks?

I noticed Casarao isn't open until 10 pm. Which begs question whether that area after midnight is safe for a gringo tourist and whether there are Ubers easily assessable from there.

On issue of trying to negotiate either BBFS inside or getting phone numbers for action outside the club, is that against house rules even bringing up? Trying to avoid downside risk of a 220 lb BJJ bouncer confronting me if one of the girls decides to inform the house (I'm only a grey belt. Haha).

This is true for 6's and 7's, it's hard for them to get more than two clients in one night.

8's and above, like this scandallo girl who f*cked like it was the finals of the world cup, in a good night, let's say F1 week and soccer finals, they get up to 4 clients in a day.

She was finishing her house with all that money. She was also very interested on my proposal for a private shoot because she would make a bit more "graninha" (little bit more money).

100% cooperative after the s*x as you can see.

[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2897006]This kind of contrast between online and clubs in just about every city. It's just a market segmentation.

Club girls: These girls may only get one client a day or one client every couple of days. They need to charge higher prices to make it worth it. However, these girls may have lower mileage. Clubs also have room costs. You also have the ability to see the girl before paying here. Further, clients at clubs tend to have more money, meaning not just foreigners but also locals. You go to a club expecting to pay 500-1000 Reais so the street girls charge proportionally more. If you have been to Medellin, it is the same as Centro vs Parque Lleras street girls.

[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2897225]

She was finishing her house with all that money. She was also very interested on my proposal for a private shoot because she would make a bit more "graninha" (little bit more money).

100% cooperative after the s*x as you can see.[/QUOTE]HiddenEye,

There's a very high probability that I have sessioned with and even briefly dated the lady in your photos. Or this could be her twin sister.

[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2897203]In the threads I've read (a lot of them) on the termas they say the sequence is to pay house fee then up to locker room into a bath robe and then back down to bars and lounges (in most cases anyway). When in Rome I guess, but doesn't a punter feel a bit odd sitting in a bathroom having dinner or drinks?

[/QUOTE]Termas (lounges / bordellos) are in RJ. Boates (nightclub / bordellos) are mainly in SP. Perhaps you are mixing up Solarium Terma (RJ) with Scandallo Boate (SP).

The major differences are:

Terma girls work for the house and the house sets the price which is the same for all girls. Rates are all inclusive but vary depending on the time and room size selected by the customer. Termas have small bars. Terma customers can change into a bath robe before entering the lounge area or not. It is up to you. Terma girls generally do not leave the Terma during their work shift unless the customer is willing to pay a prohibitory high fee designed to discourage such behavior.

Boate girls are independent contractors IE FLs, and their price can vary and is negotiated privately between the girl and a customer. The customer pays the girl directly after the session. A boate is a nightclub. Cover / entry fee & room fees are all separate expenses which are paid to the boate. Boate customers can take girls out of the club for an exit fee which is approximately the same price as a room charge. Customers never change clothes in a boate. On a typical Wed, Thurs, or Friday night Scandallo has maybe 150 girls or more girls hanging around, live musical entertainment, 3. 5 bars in full operation, plus a large restaurant.

These qualitative differences should be understood and considered before a 1st time visitor decides which destination suits his tastes and wallet. Termas are much cheaper than most boates. They also have less girls on hand, but the venue is still fun. Arguably the boates have a higher talent pool, but there are lovely exceptions to this. Therefore, it is up to the individual to figure out what these differences mean. Taste is in the eye of the beholder. There are nice girls to be found in both termas and boates. If you have the time, I suggest a visit to both cities to discover which road suits you best in the long run.

Maybe! When did you meet her?

This makes us milk brothers as we say in South America.

"Hermanos de chele" hahahahaha.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2897284]HiddenEye,

There's a very high probability that I have sessioned with and even briefly dated the lady in your photos. Or this could be her twin sister.[/QUOTE]

Steve great write up. I totally agree, with you. When I connect with a girl, we go all in GFE bareback. I usually bust my loads in her. If I see a girl that's a 9+ with great chemistry, then it normally goes like this. Day 1, we hook up, Day 2, we hook up again with more different positions, Day 3, we are BF & GF, total GFE, bareback in her pussy and asshole. Only a few get to Day 3 with me. But when they do make it to Day 3+, its glorious!!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2896437]I straddle her again and start massage, working my way down to her ass. As I grind her ass crack with my dick I push it down to her pussy opening and say I will just touch it. But soon she is grinding in a circle and starting to inch my dick inside her. Before long I am fully inserted bareback and it's on! Love that SHE did it not me. I just had to make the opportunity!

OMG. No words for bareback with this goddess. Just absolutely epic. We are drunk as fuck and so despite the ecstatic feel, we go forever, eventually collapsing from pure sweaty exhaustion. But what a fuckton of fun.
[/QUOTE]