Jakarta

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2926018]If your last visit to Thermae was last year your information is very outdated in terms of price if you only pursue the TOP looking girls at Thermae. TOP Thermae girls ask more than gogo girls now (3500 vs 3000 baht). ... [/QUOTE]

Yes I heard, Thermae girls are asking more now. But I guess I would still prefer that over GoGo bars.

Also I had 1 great Brazilian I found on Seeking, she lives in Bangkok and had lot of Brazilian friends, so we had blast at one rooftop bar last year and she rockes in bed as compare to Thai girls.

Very open and ready for everything.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2926018]As for talking to girls in Jakarta. Keep in mind most teenagers don't speak much English in Jakarta so talking isn't really a thing. ... [/QUOTE]
Yes, I realized that readign the forums, so I am also checking Seeking girls with English filter and found 4 girls I connected. Hopefully it will be a good experience.

Thank you for your response. The hotties that I saw; if the pics are genuine and speak decent English, 3 mil is fine if the chick spends the entire day or a night as long as you get a good seeking experience. I crave and love that kind of stuff. Do report if you happen to meet any SA chick, the damages and experience. I do not need the contacts or their IDs at all. The hotties that I matched on dating apps and connected in CJs were ok to come to my room in 1 mil for one hour but since this was my first trip was trying to learn and understand. So IMHO, the 5 Mil chicks will be ok with your 3 mil offer for full day or night. Have fun.

Have fun.

Regards.

[QUOTE=Pk099;2926144]I have talked to 4 girls on Telegram, they quoted me 3 mil to 6 mil based on the looks I guess.

My first requirement is speaking English, so maybe I will have to pay more for that.

One thing to mention that I am not looking to go cheap, I am ok to pay little more but need good experience. So I am targeting SA girls.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2926040]Haven't used it in many years but back when SESTA / FOSTA was a big thing many USA sex sites were inaccessible from US locations. I used Nord VPN and found it cheap easy and reliable. Online reviews seem to indicate it still is. Good luck![/QUOTE]I now use Nord after Mullvad downgraded their service. Occasional glitches with them, but nothing too serious.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2925528]So back for another quick 3 day visit. On the strong recommendation of another ISG bro I went to Emporium for the first time. You can see the reason why its more expensive (1. 2 M /1. 4 M). Almost every girl there was over an 8. Facilities looked nice and upscale. A session is 90 min (not 60) and includes some playtime in the jacuzzi. I went with Papa-san recommendation and had pretty good sex with everything I desire with a very hot girl. Total bill with drinks etc all included was 100 USD.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with EA about Emporium. My first trip I balked at the prices there compared to Classic, but it really is like another level of quality and experience. Their MO is you arrive and you take the elevator to go upstairs and there's a big room with girls on one side and customers on the other side. There's an early shift that starts around 2 pm and then the main shift that starts around 6 pm more or less. There's two main couch areas with the 1. 2 M girls on the right side and the 1. 4 M on the left. Honestly I couldn't tell a major difference between the two, but I think the 1. 4 M were still marginally better. Anyways once you pick your girl, your 90 timer starts. Your options are you can drink with her there in the main room but it's part of your time. You can go downstairs to the spa and she will join you in the giant jacuzzi pool for about 30 minutes and give you a lap dance or massage you. Or you can go straight to the room for the full 90 minutes. There is also an option for a nicer room for a little extra, I forgot how much but it was less than 500.000 and it was worth it to me as the room seemed much larger and nicer. I'd also recommend getting the Papasan's whatsapp, they will post the list of girls who will be working that day to their daily stories if you are looking for a particular girl. And you can also message the papasan to reserve a girl for you before you arrive, and they will send photos of the girls if you ask politely. Also note that the jacuzzi is sometimes closed because it can be booked for a private party. That's on my bucket list but you basically pay for something like 4 bottles and it includes 3 or 4 girls and you get the whole spa area for yourself or your group for maybe 2 hours and also time in the room. I remember the cost being about just under 1,000 USD but it seemed reasonable if you're splitting it between a few people. Also just FYI, BBFS seemed harder to come by here than a place like Classic. Maybe that was just my limited experience but the girls here are either more strict or not as desperate for the extra money.

Quick question for more experienced Emporium mongers: what would be your standard tip here for BBFS? One girl was quoting me a seemingly extraordinary amount after giving her what I thought was already a very generous tip (she initially said the tip value was up to me).

Took a while to get back to ISG, was on a work trip.

I've used Nord, Express, Surfshark. All has many servers in a lot of countries. Only issue is, when it fails meaning server goes down, if you don't notice on time, you are pretty much SOL. So, I ended up with Norton which came in as a bundle. Haven't failed me yet! Doesn't have 100+ servers like the others has but works flawlessly and it has its own reputation.

[QUOTE=Jshah23;2925836]Thanks for responding bro, will definitely give them a try & I will be kept on posting here just need to figure out VPN arrangement as soon as I land there.

Which VPN peoples generally use over there for ISG browsing? Any idea.

Terima kasih.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MSanchez;2926662]I have to agree with EA about Emporium. My first trip I balked at the prices there compared to Classic, but it really is like another level of quality and experience. Their MO is you arrive and you take the elevator to go upstairs and there's a big room with girls on one side and customers on the other side. There's an early shift that starts around 2 pm and then the main shift that starts around 6 pm more or less. There's two main couch areas with the 1. 2 M girls on the right side and the 1. 4 M on the left. Honestly I couldn't tell a major difference between the two, but I think the 1. 4 M were still marginally better. Anyways once you pick your girl, your 90 timer starts. Your options are you can drink with her there in the main room but it's part of your time. You can go downstairs to the spa and she will join you in the giant jacuzzi pool for about 30 minutes and give you a lap dance or massage you. Or you can go straight to the room for the full 90 minutes. There is also an option for a nicer room for a little extra, I forgot how much but it was less than 500.000 and it was worth it to me as the room seemed much larger and nicer. I'd also recommend getting the Papasan's whatsapp, they will post the list of girls who will be working that day to their daily stories if you are looking for a particular girl. And you can also message the papasan to reserve a girl for you before you arrive, and they will send photos of the girls if you ask politely. Also note that the jacuzzi is sometimes closed because it can be booked for a private party. That's on my bucket list but you basically pay for something like 4 bottles and it includes 3 or 4 girls and you get the whole spa area for yourself or your group for maybe 2 hours and also time in the room. I remember the cost being about just under 1,000 USD but it seemed reasonable if you're splitting it between a few people. Also just FYI, BBFS seemed harder to come by here than a place like Classic. Maybe that was just my limited experience but the girls here are either more strict or not as desperate for the extra money.

Quick question for more experienced Emporium mongers: what would be your standard tip here for BBFS? One girl was quoting me a seemingly extraordinary amount after giving her what I thought was already a very generous tip (she initially said the tip value was up to me).[/QUOTE]I wasnt aware your time starts at the drinks. I consider that the interview stage and off the clock. Time should start at the pool when she comes out in her bikini. Anyway the second girl I had at Emporium was super relaxed. At each step it was I who said lets go to the pool and I said lets go to the room and in the end I had to say okay we can leave the room now. The girl was completely unhurried and the house didn't bother us either. It was a slow night and I think they didn't care. I think Emporium is well worth the Price difference with Classic. This last trip Classic Spa collection was very mediocre at 5 pm. I found my regular so it was fine for me but otherwise there was maybe one or two other girls I could have picked. While at Emporium there were probably 30 to 40 girls and I could have easily done over 25 of them.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2927010]I wasnt aware your time starts at the drinks. I consider that the interview stage and off the clock. Time should start at the pool when she comes out in her bikini. Anyway the second girl I had at Emporium was super relaxed. At each step it was I who said lets go to the pool and I said lets go to the room and in the end I had to say okay we can leave the room now. The girl was completely unhurried and the house didn't bother us either. It was a slow night and I think they didn't care. I think Emporium is well worth the Price difference with Classic. This last trip Classic Spa collection was very mediocre at 5 pm. I found my regular so it was fine for me but otherwise there was maybe one or two other girls I could have picked. While at Emporium there were probably 30 to 40 girls and I could have easily done over 25 of them.[/QUOTE]Sent you a PM, buddy.

Hello Everybody.

Today at Classic there were very nice dancers.

Someones know if they do sex or just dancing and drinking? Price?

I never see their mamasan, so I never know who to ask. I be back to Classic in the next days. I will try to ask ti someone's.

For sure they cannot dance at all, there are here because are sexy.

Sure man, I will report back my Jakarta experience from Seeking. I have good success rate on Seeking in other cities, and hoping same.

[QUOTE=DevSagar;2926174]Thank you for your response. The hotties that I saw; if the pics are genuine and speak decent English, 3 mil is fine if the chick spends the entire day or a night as long as you get a good seeking experience. I crave and love that kind of stuff. Do report if you happen to meet any SA chick, the damages and experience. I do not need the contacts or their IDs at all. The hotties that I matched on dating apps and connected in CJs were ok to come to my room in 1 mil for one hour but since this was my first trip was trying to learn and understand. So IMHO, the 5 Mil chicks will be ok with your 3 mil offer for full day or night. Have fun.

Have fun.

Regards.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;2927412]Hello Everybody.

Today at Classic there were very nice dancers.

Someones know if they do sex or just dancing and drinking? Price?

I never see their mamasan, so I never know who to ask. I be back to Classic in the next days. I will try to ask ti someone's.

For sure they cannot dance at all, there are here because are sexy.[/QUOTE]Be very careful around the dancers. They are like vultures surrounding prey and will see that you are a newbie, surround you, molest you, put your hands on their boobs and the next thing you know you are buying 5 shots for each dancer.

I don't know if they participate in sex but after that experience I did not want anything to do with them.

Went there last night about 7 PM. Maybe 80 girls, most of them not fuckable. Found one and went to the room with her, after showing her on my phone what I wanted in the session and she agreeing to it. The session was OK and at the end she asked for a tip. Based on posts here, I gave her a 100 K note. She insisted on 200 K so I offered her 50 K more. She repeatedly refused the extra 50 K, insisting on 100 K, until she gave up and we left the room. I thought the 200 K tip was for BBFS, not just regular service. Has the tip requirement changed for the latter or was she just being greedy and trying to take advantage of a me?

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2927543]Went there last night about 7 PM. Maybe 80 girls, most of them not fuckable. Found one and went to the room with her, after showing her on my phone what I wanted in the session and she agreeing to it. The session was OK and at the end she asked for a tip. Based on posts here, I gave her a 100 K note. She insisted on 200 K so I offered her 50 K more. She repeatedly refused the extra 50 K, insisting on 100 K, until she gave up and we left the room. I thought the 200 K tip was for BBFS, not just regular service. Has the tip requirement changed for the latter or was she just being greedy and trying to take advantage of a me?[/QUOTE]Locals give 50 k as a tip. I give the same and I get BBFS as well. My money my rules.

I don't care what the girl says or if she complains. How can she force me to give more tip? It s not going to happen in this life.

Many simps give 200 or even more because they are weak and dumb so of course girls try to get more now.

Just be firm. Easy.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2927543]Went there last night about 7 PM. Maybe 80 girls, most of them not fuckable. Found one and went to the room with her, after showing her on my phone what I wanted in the session and she agreeing to it. The session was OK and at the end she asked for a tip. Based on posts here, I gave her a 100 K note. She insisted on 200 K so I offered her 50 K more. She repeatedly refused the extra 50 K, insisting on 100 K, until she gave up and we left the room. I thought the 200 K tip was for BBFS, not just regular service. Has the tip requirement changed for the latter or was she just being greedy and trying to take advantage of a me?[/QUOTE]Did you go to the same Classic I did? At 7 pm there should be way more than 80 girls. There are 15-20 girls per sofa and there are 8 to 10 sofas. Did you walk around? And each sofa has at least a few hotter girls. Or are you going to expect 100% 10's in a brothel where you fuck a 19 yo for $25? As for tip 100 K is reasonable if no special service. But is it that hard to be generous with another 6 bucks? Out of your 375 K to the house, she gets less than 100. She spread her legs and sucked your dick for 6 bucks. I'm not one of those who think we should pay US prices in third world countries. But at the same time I'm okay being generous with small sums to make a girl who made me happy feel good. Now if she had a bad attitude or something, then its a different story. That's just how I do it though and I have not had a bad experience at Classic yet.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2927579]Did you go to the same Classic I did? At 7 pm there should be way more than 80 girls. There are 15-20 girls per sofa and there are 8 to 10 sofas. Did you walk around? And each sofa has at least a few hotter girls. Or are you going to expect 100% 10's in a brothel where you fuck a 19 yo for $25? As for tip 100 K is reasonable if no special service. But is it that hard to be generous with another 6 bucks? Out of your 375 K to the house, she gets less than 100. She spread her legs and sucked your dick for 6 bucks. I'm not one of those who think we should pay US prices in third world countries. But at the same time I'm okay being generous with small sums to make a girl who made me happy feel good. Now if she had a bad attitude or something, then its a different story. That's just how I do it though and I have not had a bad experience at Classic yet.[/QUOTE]It was a guess. There could have been more, I wasn't counting, but some couches had only 10 or less girls.

I wasn't expecting 10's but maybe more than just a few 7'.

I thought that they got 175 K of the 365 K. Why are they even there to get less than 100 K for an hour?

I certainly could afford the extra 50 K that she wanted but I didn't want to be the simp that ruins the market for other foreigners.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2927627]It was a guess. There could have been more, I wasn't counting, but some couches had only 10 or less girls.

I wasn't expecting 10's but maybe more than just a few 7'.

I thought that they got 175 K of the 365 K. Why are they even there to get less than 100 K for an hour?

I certainly could afford the extra 50 K that she wanted but I didn't want to be the simp that ruins the market for other foreigners.[/QUOTE]It is my understanding there is at least a four way split of the fee you pay. But I don't know the exact breakdown.

Part goes directly to the lady.

Part goes to pay the debt her or her family borrowed.

Part goes to the house.

A small commission goes to the mamasan.

Anything you tip should be kept directly by the lady.

One lady told me she clears 20 million a month. (For comparison. An office worker I met on Bumble told me her monthly salary was 7 million and she went to university and had a degree.) I will let someone else do the math on how many guys a month that may be based on any assumed breakdown of the fee or tips.

Also consider that the lady can be "booked" to a table for the hour. This costs 1 voucher and is the same as the room price for sex, but she will just sit and drink with the customer for that hour or two before going to the room to fuck. So that is 3 vouchers she gets for 2 hours of drinking downstairs with the customer and 1 hour of fucking in the room. She gets paid the same either way for 1 voucher. Whether she is sitting and drinking or in the room fucking. This is not my vibe. But many of our Asian friends love to sit and drink with their buddies while they fondle a beautiful lady. This is also why many of the ladies gain weight during the course of their career as they drink their calories from sitting with the customer on a booked table/voucher.