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[QUOTE=Hutsori;1817385]I should mention that I spend almost all my time with dating site girls, but use bargirls as a backup, when on the road, or entertaining out-of-town visitors. Dating site girls surpass everyone.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. They are the best.

But if you want to fuck as many different girls as possible in the shortest possible time at the least possible cost, forget about dating site girls.

Dating site girls will give you a girlfriend experience like no other. But the cost and time required to break in a new girl means that dating site girls are only economical if you spend quite a long time with each one.

[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1816793]You pay one big bar fine to the bar for however many days you want to take the girl. Out. I am here now and doing that now, took a girl from Crystal Palace for ten days. Paid one large sum for all of the days up front to the bar.

Chris[/QUOTE]Amazing. Last time I was there, 4 years ago, my buddy and I both barfined girls one night, had a pow wow the next morning and asked them to stay with us for the next three days. Both of them went back to the bar around noon, came back later and said they were ours for the time we wanted, no discussion of money. When we left for the airport we took care of them and that was it. It was awesome actually. Either things have changed drastically or your game is weak, or both.

[QUOTE=RedDogger;1817797]Absolutely. They are the best.

But if you want to fuck as many different girls as possible in the shortest possible time at the least possible cost, forget about dating site girls.

Dating site girls will give you a girlfriend experience like no other. But the cost and time required to break in a new girl means that dating site girls are only economical if you spend quite a long time with each one.[/QUOTE]Yeah dating sites are only good if you plan to stay in Angeles City for 1-2 Months or live there. If your there for a week or 2 its not worth it. Too much flakyness and its just a waste of time. I don't mind spending the 1500-2000 pesos bar fine. Save me a lot of time.

[QUOTE=RedDogger;1817797]Absolutely. They are the best.

But if you want to fuck as many different girls as possible in the shortest possible time at the least possible cost, forget about dating site girls.

Dating site girls will give you a girlfriend experience like no other. But the cost and time required to break in a new girl means that dating site girls are only economical if you spend quite a long time with each one.[/QUOTE]I highly disagree in your last two paragraphs. But again people can have different view but this is in my book very far from the truth. No trouble lining up 3,4 or 5 gurls in one day if I need to. Not now or from 10+ years experience using them. Todays fake FB works a bit the same and even better. No big cost involved if you don't want to.
But ofcourse i dont have experience with datingsitegirls from AC so if they are very different from datingsites elsewhere i rest my case but i highly doubt it..

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1817814]Yeah dating sites are only good if you plan to stay in Angeles City for 1-2 Months or live there. If your there for a week or 2 its not worth it. Too much flakyness and its just a waste of time. I don't mind spending the 1500-2000 pesos bar fine. Save me a lot of time.[/QUOTE]Datingsites can be used with great success for 3 to 10 days stays as well.

[QUOTE=Hutsori;1817568]Firstly, I think your arrival time on Friday, which is not mentioned, ought to be considered. If it's the morning then your transportation to AC is less a hassle than a Fri evening rush hour. You might not be hitting bars until late night. Of course your departing flight from Manila ought to be considered. Traffic on Sunday isn't bad, but if you need to leave early Sunday morning to catch your flight that cuts into your fun time.

If it's late Friday arrival and early Sunday departure I'd certainly stick in Manila.

Next, how many girls do you want to hook up with? In Manila you have 24hr LA, but from sunrise to 11 am there are just a handful of girls. You have afternoon options in Burgos and LA starts to fill in the afternoon, especially on weekends. In AC you have a lot more choice for morning and afternoon, and if you quickly join DIA and limit your search to AC you open up another possibility.

Your best option is to fly into Clark rather than NAIA, especially if you can book an outbound flight late Sunday night or early Monday morning. If that's not in the cards then it comes down to hours. If you have 48 hours [B]in AC[/B], say from Friday afternoon to Sunday afternoon, then it's worth the effort.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply!

Unfortunately the earliest I can probably leave is afternoon on Friday. And I absolutely need to be in KL, before 8 am Monday. The flights options in and out of Clark (from Hong Kong) are limited at best. So would likely need to fly into Manila landing around 9 pm and then cab it to AC. Hopefully the traffic has wound down by then. I could take a nonstop from AC to KL Sunday evening.

I would consider 2 girls / day a success. But for the right girl, would also be content with barfining her for the entire weekend.

I guess I'm a bit disillusioned with the last few months of posts here and am wondering if my time and $ would be better spent in wan chai, Manila or heading to KL directly or even Pattaya. But then I recall the bucket list and think. How bad could AC have gotten to pass it up for HK, or KL.

[QUOTE=RedDogger;1817797]But if you want to fuck as many different girls as possible in the shortest possible time at the least possible cost, forget about dating site girls.

Dating site girls will give you a girlfriend experience like no other. But the cost and time required to break in a new girl means that dating site girls are only economical if you spend quite a long time with each one.[/QUOTE]Before I get into the meat of my comment I want to make sure you understand that the majority of my previous comment covered meeting working girls at their place of work, such as a bar, and the GFE. It certainly wasn't "go to AC and use dating sites exclusively". If that was your take away then our wires got crossed.

Now, on to your comment. In my experience over several years I find the gist of your comment to be untrue, but not a lie. Just a different experience. Since my truth and your truth can be different the cost and ease of meeting dating site girls is debatable. Neither your point nor mine is inarguable.

At first I followed convention and assumed that I'd have to spend a while building the relationship, trust, and rapport, what I understand you to mean by "breaking in the girl". I used a "safe" profile on dating sites talking about meeting for coffee, etc. Conventional. Sure, plenty of women are amenable to that. I was drinking coffee here, there and everywhere. Good thing coffee is a stimulant because dashing to and fro was exhausting. But leaving my condo I was going to meet an "potential", i.e. I'd have to spend my time with her working to entice her to come back to my place. Conventional. Just like dating in the west. There had to be a better way.

What triggered my flip was taking my craiglist's advert, which worked quite well, and using it on dating sites. It was an experiment, and I didn't think it would prove successful. But it was a low-risk experiment; it it blew up in my face I could always go back to my let's-have-coffee-and-a-chat approach, couldn't I?

Two things happened. I received many fewer messages and replies from women. No surprises there. But a good thing happened, too. Of those who still contact me most read the profile, understand it is about sex, and are happy to participate. Yes, some didn't read the profile, so in everyone one of my replies I always verify they understand. "Yes, that's why I messaged you," sums up the girls' replies. In a nutshell I stopped wasting time with everybody and spend my time and effort with fewer women, but they were the women I want to meet. They're looking for sex too. A targeted approach.

Many are quite happy to come over to my condo and have sex on the first meeting. Some require more messages, so they are on-going projects. I don't think it takes a lot of dexterity to meet those who want to fuck immediately whilst at the same time "breaking in" those who need more pre-meeting conversation. I can juggle both. (Many of my comments in 2011 and 2012 cover this in depth.).

As for cost, both financial and physical, I spend much less money and effort having girls come to my place than me running around.

I would never advise one to disregard dating sites entirely, even in AC. From the comfort and convenience of your bed, beside the swimming pool, or even in the gym you can expand your options. It is a good way to fill in available free-to-fuck time, such as the morning and early afternoon.

I wouldn't consider myself an iconoclast, so if you think I'm attacking a cherished belief please be assured I am not. In AC, dating sites may be used in addition to and not in lieu of the bars.

(After posting this I see how long it is. Apologies to those who don't like to read.)

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1817288]I have over the years heard many guys on many angeles based boards claim that angeles city is the number 1 destination for GFE.

I have often wondered how this works and why guys believe its only alive and well in angeles or why people feel they need to seek it out.

I have always been of the thought that paying a prostitute to say the correct things, cater to a punters ego. Loneliness, lack of self esteem with terms like honey your so handsome, honey your so young looking, honey your not fat, honey your cock is so big, honey nobody made me cum as much as you etc etc was just that, paying a prostitute by the hour to basically lie to ones self.

its all just a deceipt, a game payed for by hard cash, a game that can be repeated through out asia not only angeles IMHO, all it takes is hard cash.

i do not look for gfe or seek it out,give me a hottie with a tight pussy who knows how to use it and i am happy, gfe not needed,i get that from my real girlfriend,

thoughts guys ???[/QUOTE]I think the GFE is much more then just fucking some tight pussy Its the time between that counts just has much and that's where the Philippines beats most other destinations IMO. IN Thailand I have noticed short time to be more hte norm then it use to be Girls want to do multiples a night. DR and CR same thing. Find guy go to room fuck get the money and leave which is fine if that's what guys want. But in the Philippines the guys want the between session time also. Hang out. Go eat. Go bar hop. Play pool or maybe take a side trip to the beach. I think the Philippines is the last good place for the GFE.

[QUOTE=Streetlooker;1817875]I think the GFE is much more then just fucking some tight pussy Its the time between that counts just has much and that's where the Philippines beats most other destinations IMO. IN Thailand I have noticed short time to be more hte norm then it use to be Girls want to do multiples a night. DR and CR same thing. Find guy go to room fuck get the money and leave which is fine if that's what guys want. But in the Philippines the guys want the between session time also. Hang out. Go eat. Go bar hop. Play pool or maybe take a side trip to the beach. I think the Philippines is the last good place for the GFE.[/QUOTE]Plus you have to understand that the girls in the Philippines speak English, so they can more bond with you, because at least you can have a conservation on a human level when your in the room.

[QUOTE=Streetlooker;1817875]I think the GFE is much more then just fucking some tight pussy. Its the time between that counts just has much and that's where the Philippines beats most other destinations IMO. I think the Philippines is the last good place for the GFE.[/QUOTE]The 'experience' of a lonely thing that just wants someone to be nice to him. Any place where the people are so impoverished they will do anything to survive is a good place where that 'experience' can be procured for cash.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1817896]The 'experience' of a lonely thing that just wants someone to be nice to him. Any place where the people are so impoverished they will do anything to survive is a good place where that 'experience' can be procured for cash.[/QUOTE]Have to agree, any place where girls are shit poor would be a good place to get exactly what ever one is looking for.

[QUOTE=Streetlooker;1817875]I think the GFE is much more then just fucking some tight pussy Its the time between that counts just has much and that's where the Philippines beats most other destinations IMO. IN Thailand I have noticed short time to be more hte norm then it use to be Girls want to do multiples a night. DR and CR same thing. Find guy go to room fuck get the money and leave which is fine if that's what guys want. But in the Philippines the guys want the between session time also. Hang out. Go eat. Go bar hop. Play pool or maybe take a side trip to the beach. I think the Philippines is the last good place for the GFE.[/QUOTE]Not so sure sl.

Was out today in bangkok and tonight in pattaya and must have seen hundreds if not thousands of tourists out holding hands with thai girls, in the restaurants eating, in the mall, having ice cream, in the cinema, funny, most guys had a very big grin on their faces too.

As I say, pay enough cash and most poor girls the world over are willing to play pretend girlfriend to the lonely.



As far as the guys saying english is spoken in the phills, I agree the level of english is probably the best of asia,but still not good,and what exactly is there to discuss with a teenage bar girl that grew up in the outback, living in a hut with no tv, no access to books, newspapers or a school.

Maybe some are willing to discuss with them how to best shit in a hole in the ground,how to get the funds to send to her parents to replace the dead buffalo or where the funds might come from to replace that leaking roof on the parents hut,

sorry guys I am not buying your arguments, more effort please LOL.

[QUOTE=Mduga;1817833]Thanks for your reply!

So would likely need to fly into Manila landing around 9 pm and then cab it to AC. Hopefully the traffic has wound down by then. I could take a nonstop from AC to KL Sunday evening.

I would consider 2 girls / day a success. But for the right girl, would also be content with barfining her for the entire weekend.

I guess I'm a bit disillusioned with the last few months of posts here and am wondering if my time and $ would be better spent in wan chai, Manila or heading to KL directly or even Pattaya. But then I recall the bucket list and think. How bad could AC have gotten to pass it up for HK, or KL.[/QUOTE]You're welcome.

After clearing immigration and customs, change money if needed, and transit to AC you're looking at midnight arrival - 9-10 pm traffic on a Friday night is often still heavy-ish, but it's no longer the rainy season so that's in your favour. Check in hotel, freshen up, and be at the bars by 1 am to start trawling. What remains? Let's say you get a so-so one and have your fun with her. You have Saturday afternoon to pick a decent short time, then get rid of her to hit the bars at 7-8 pm to find an exceptional one. If you find her try to negotiate a LT until Sunday afternoon when you depart. If you don't a great one pick up a so-so one for a ST and then return again a few hours later to try your luck again. Try to negotiate a LT until Sunday afternoon when you depart.

If you stay in Manila you can be in your hotel by 10 pm. Hit EDSA, Havana or Burgos by 11 pm. If you're really keen after you're done with her go to LA. Saturday afternoon visit Burgos for a ST pickup. Saturday night your choice of Burgos or EDSA for 7-8 pm; Havana isn't worth going to until after 10 pm. Sunday late morning / early afternoon check out of your hotel, go to LA for a last pick up to be done at a hot sheet hotel.

In AC's favour, you have thousands of girls there and they just spent a lot of money during Christmas. Chris Long's FR's are reporting "dimes", which I reckon means 10's. Against AC's favour, the top ones may have received a lot of Christmas money from sponsors and you are in peak tourist season. Of course this is the case for Thailand too.

If you attach a lot of significance to the bucket list then follow your ambition. If you are certain you can swing a less rushed AC trip in the near future then postpone.

[QUOTE=Mduga;1817833]Thanks for your reply!

Unfortunately the earliest I can probably leave is afternoon on Friday. And I absolutely need to be in KL, before 8 am Monday. I would consider 2 girls / day a success. But for the right girl, would also be content with barfining her for the entire weekend.

I guess I'm a bit disillusioned with the last few months of posts here and am wondering if my time and $ would be better spent in wan chai, Manila or heading to KL directly or even Pattaya. But then I recall the bucket list and think. How bad could AC have gotten to pass it up for HK, or KL.[/QUOTE]First: Wanchai sucks in comparison to Manila or AC. Forget about Wanchai. The bar girls are very expensive and quality is not high. Go to Macau if you want to have a real good time and money is no object. Macau has very high quality girls. The Hong Kong ferry runs every 30 minutes from multiple locations and takes less than 90 minutes. From Macau you can fly to KL or take a ferry directly to the Hong Kong International Airport.

Second: Flying into Manila on a Friday night around 9 pm and then cabbing it to AC IS NOT A GOOD IDEA! THE TRAFFIC WILL DESTROY YOUR PLANS! It could take up to two hours just to get out of Metro Manila. On two different Friday night arrivals in Manila, it took me over an hour just to drive to Makati! But all is not lost. Philippine Airlines has flights arriving in Manila from HKG at 10 am, 1:30 pm, and 3:35 pm. These flights would give you the necessary time needed to enjoy AC for all its worth on Friday night. But if you can't book these flights, I would strongly recommend staying in Makati and having a great weekend in Manila. I actually prefer Manila over AC. AC is cheaper. That is its only advantage over Manila. Manila has better girls, better hotels, better restaurants.

Third: Cebu Pacific has a flight from HKG arriving in AC at 11:45 am Friday morning. If you can't make this flight or the early afternoon Manila flight then drop your AC plans for another time. It just won't be worth the trouble and limited time you will have.

Lastly: getting out of AC, Manila, Macau or HKG is no problem. Take a Sunday night non stop flight from any of these locations to KL.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1817896]The 'experience' of a lonely thing that just wants someone to be nice to him. Any place where the people are so impoverished they will do anything to survive is a good place where that 'experience' can be procured for cash.[/QUOTE]Good insight, and the' truth. Hope guys do not kid themselves its something else, LOL.