Jakarta

[QUOTE=Vendelo;2927878]I keep checking the conversion rate. Just to confirm, a 100,000 IDR tip equals about US $6.00. Is that correct?[/QUOTE]It s always a mistake to do the conversion in your own currency. It makes you overpay easily. Think local.

[QUOTE=EgyMongerNew;2927830]I personally have always tipped 100 k or 150 k and that includes BBFS + CIP. Nobody has ever complained.[/QUOTE]Nobody complains if you just tip 50 k neither.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2927932]I am confused about the prices. You guys talk about tips, but is that in addition? In addition to what?

I have never been in Asia, but I am considering Jakarta. How much does a girl cost there? And where I can find girls? I don't like sex clubs, I don't like professionals. Does Tinder work there, or maybe other apps? Or I should use Facebook?

I have a smoking fetish, and I saw a lot of videos of Indonesian girls smoking. Is that quite common?[/QUOTE]RTFF dude. This has been answered 100 times.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2928009]Tips are paid, typically direct to the girl, in addition to the establishments' fees. Normally paid to girls who are employees rather than freelancers and it's not a large amount: 100 to 200 k.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]200 k tip in a place like Classic or Travel is way too much. A tip should be 10% max not 50 % anyway. And tip is not mandatory in Indonesia. If service is normal I don't tip. I tip for specific service only. Locals don't tip at a restaurant or a cafe. This is not North America here!

I never tip for FLs and they always come back to me.

Went back to the 2nd floor brothel at Classic about 7 PM last night. Counted 125 women (135 at 8 PM) so probably 150 in total (including the ones who were in the room or doing something else). Wasn't bothered by the mamasans too much this time as they knew I was going to take my time in choosing a girl. Circled the room a couple of times, trying to find someone I liked. One couch had some young ones I could do, so mamasan brought them up to me, I showed them on my cell phone my program, they agreed, so chose one, paid the mamasan the 365 K, went to the room. OK session, including um-requested BBFS. Gave her 150 K tip. She smiled and said thank you, so apparently the previous night's girl thought I was a sucker. Paid the 5 K entry fee and left.

Around 11 PM went to the Classic Club on the first floor. Dark as a cave, deafening sound volume, some dancers on stage. Asahi beer 110 K a bottle. Probably 65 girls, around 40 of them sitting in the back sofas, the rest sitting with customers and drinking. Not any better quality than the second floor. About half the girls sitting would occasionally get up to be presented to customers sitting in the dark. Don't know how they could even tell what the girls looked like given how dark it was. No reason to stay, so paid the 5 K entry fee and left after 10-15 minutes.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2928009]Tips are paid, typically direct to the girl, in addition to the establishments' fees. Normally paid to girls who are employees rather than freelancers and it's not a large amount: 100 to 200 k.

Jakarta has one of the largest ranges of prices anywhere in Asia. 300 k isn't hard to find nor is a girl asking 3 million in a 5 star hotel's bar. RTFF for what to pay where.

Girls are everywhere: malls, online, bars, massage houses, bordellos, the list is endless. The only thing that Jakarta does not have is bars with barfineable gogos. Girls in bars are typically freelancers making their own arrangements.

Many civilians in Jakarta and girls are generally very approachable is you have the smallest amount of Game.

Tinder works but scammers of lady boys abound.

Lots of Indo girls smoke (cigarettes).

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Prices are very good indeed. Looks as cheap as Africa. What is the English level? Can have a basic conversation? Any other countries I should consider in Asia?

Hello everybody.

Yesterday I been in Mulia disco, and sound and everything was amazing. But price is high to go often. But the place has a crazy big value, price is understandable.

I would ask if in Jakarta they are place where you can meet all the same nice freelance, less 5 star, but still fun and safe. With girls more easygoing, but young all the same, g and with good price for the night.

I also will be back to Mulia another time for sure, music is crazy, But ai also looking for cheaper alternative.

I am also looking for other bar with just live music for the night, cheaper.

I'm not a Tinder user, but might try it on my trip.

Any tips how to use it best?

[QUOTE=Muzungufotsy;2928048]..And tip is not mandatory in Indonesia. If service is normal I don't tip. I tip for specific service only. Locals don't tip at a restaurant or a cafe. This is not North America here!

I never tip for FLs and they always come back to me.[/QUOTE]Agreed.

Upto you. It's your money.

Ditto.

Correct 90% of the time.

Really? I wouldn't know. I'm not American.

See the second sentence of my original post.

Enjoy. G.

Prices are very good indeed. Looks as cheap as Africa.

Depends where in Africa but if you convert with USD then yes it's cheap.

What is the English level? Mostly novice to beginners level.

Can have a basic conversation? Mostly no unless you found a Pro FL. Basic level is stuck at very basic levels with use of common wording.

Any other countries I should consider in Asia? - Hell yeah, like others suggested, Go to Bangkok and Pattaya. Those pro will educate you and harden you for other Asian countries. Also, you will learn basic mongering rules of engagement there.

Jakarta is amazing and it has its own caveats but definitely not for first timer in Asia.

Another thing about Jakarta, 80% of its mongering scene is based on Massage, Spa, Sex club. Rest 20% is mixed of online and regular clubs with FL.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2928080]Prices are very good indeed. Looks as cheap as Africa. What is the English level? Can have a basic conversation? Any other countries I should consider in Asia?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2928060]Went back to the 2nd floor brothel at Classic about 7 PM last night. Counted 125 women (135 at 8 PM) so probably 150 in total (including the ones who were in the room or doing something else). Wasn't bothered by the mamasans too much this time as they knew I was going to take my time in choosing a girl. Circled the room a couple of times, trying to find someone I liked. One couch had some young ones I could do, so mamasan brought them up to me, I showed them on my cell phone my program, they agreed, so chose one, paid the mamasan the 365 K, went to the room. OK session, including um-requested BBFS. Gave her 150 K tip. She smiled and said thank you, so apparently the previous night's girl thought I was a sucker. Paid the 5 K entry fee and left.

Around 11 PM went to the Classic Club on the first floor. Dark as a cave, deafening sound volume, some dancers on stage. Asahi beer 110 K a bottle. Probably 65 girls, around 40 of them sitting in the back sofas, the rest sitting with customers and drinking. Not any better quality than the second floor. About half the girls sitting would occasionally get up to be presented to customers sitting in the dark. Don't know how they could even tell what the girls looked like given how dark it was. No reason to stay, so paid the 5 K entry fee and left after 10-15 minutes.[/QUOTE]I was there yesterday also. Got there around 9 pm and few mamasan were pushy and would call.

Random girls. I kept pushing back and said no. Most girls were young in 20's. For some reason my mind was playing tricks and only girls sitting with customers looked attractive. As they were laughing and carrying on. On the sofa it's were sitting looking bored. Being the first time found it hard to choose. I asked fe girls who were walking past but they would ignore you. Finally one agreed to go. Then there was waiting as she look for her mamasan, then the room voucher. This one was little curvy. Her name was Tristian. She had smoothin skin. Since she did not have to any effort to get me she was little subdued. She did not drink either. In the room.

She had huge boobs but they were not firm. She allowed touching. Little bit of kissing but was mostly starfish. After one round she got dressed and.

Said only one round. Well next time I will try two girls. Ok experience for the first time.

I had been to Royal VIP before classic as it was closer to my hotel. There must be 50 odd girls but they were sitting in the tables on the side.

Hard to see anyone. I did not ask for a lineup. This place was more expensive also. Asking 900 k instead of 365 k in classic. I found the girls in Classic no diffeeent than Royal. Only things is the Royal girls were dressed little better.

Thanks to the members here. The information was spot on and allowed me to taste the Jakarta night life. Will report back.

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen;2928187]I'm not a Tinder user, but might try it on my trip.

Any tips how to use it best?[/QUOTE]Do some prep work about a week before you go. Get a Tinder Gold subscription so you can set yourself up as being in Jakarta from wherever you are living. Yeah it's 40 $, but how much are you spending on your trip, and if you are going elsewhere use it for there as well. Put a proper picture in off yourself. Remember, you are only being seen in Jakarta. Put an honest comment in there. Visiting Jakarta, looking for some company / fun. I have a comment talking about traveling regularly to Jakarta, looking for dinner dates and fun. Start swiping and picking whatever meets your fancy. Remember to delete the account before you leave Jakarta, or suspend it until you want to use it again. You will get hit upon by plenty of lonely hearts. Lot's of ladies who have gone thru the Bule marriage grinder and are now back in Jakarta. I start to chat with the ones I liked and filtered out the out and out P4P - pretty easy to spot, they basically talked money from the start. Met some really interesting ladies who had fleeced their hubbies, set up in houses in places like Pondok Indah, not going to get anywhere with local guys so visiting expats provide their fun.

Haven't used it for a while as I picked up a nympho "freebie" student, that kept me more than satisfied for a long time. Thought there was zero chance, I'm in my 50's and just swiped right on a picture of an extremely fit looking 23 year old in a bikini. But she had a real daddy complex and replied immediately! Unfortunately she is now married to a Bule and popped out a couple or kids, and even then she still wanted to meet up. But it was becoming way to weird and the nympho sex drive had changed to the married mother drive which is probably why a lot of us are here. I'll be back on it (Tinder that is) on my next trip in, which will hopefully be next month.

Just a general enquiry- if one had only 4 nights in Jakarta would the Classic Hotel be a good option to stay?

And how far is the Classic Hotel from the good nightclubs?

[QUOTE=Rocinha;2928234]Just a general enquiry- if one had only 4 nights in Jakarta would the Classic Hotel be a good option to stay?

And how far is the Classic Hotel from the good nightclubs?[/QUOTE]I am planning to stay at the Luminor Hotel Pecenongan which is next door to Emporium. It's about a 10-minute walk to Classic per Google Maps.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2928060]Around 11 PM went to the Classic Club on the first floor. Dark as a cave, deafening sound volume, some dancers on stage. Asahi beer 110 K a bottle. Probably 65 girls, <snip> No reason to stay, so paid the 5 K entry fee and left after 10-15 minutes.[/QUOTE]I know your review of The Bunker was a negative one but it's actually convinced me to try it next trip before leaving Classic. Guess it doesn't hurt to pay 31 cents US to go check out 65 girls. That's half a penny per girl.