Once they take their clothes off.
No reason a couple of men cannot talk under the shower, not unless some homophobia is going on. I'm fine in Berlin sex clubs fucking totally in the open, and a few times tagged team girls with other guys simultaneously enjoying them, all good clean fun. One blonde German girl had a young german guy do her doggy when she game me a Olympic medal level BJ, giggling and say "zehr gut?" with cum in the corner of her sweet lips. Even came to the bar for an underberg and we all have a good chat and laugh. In summer, at Oase, I've seen a couple in the open and maybe a dozen guys watching and other WG's trying to get the watchers horny and then a few joined in, a serious Roman orgy, but nothing compared to Berlin.
As to the women, one they take their clothes off they are pretty similar, sex for us! My own experience is that lying down, eyes closed, concentrating on my breathing, delicate female fingers caressing my balls and not talking as their mouth is completely full of cock, and I am now and then imagining them spread eagled and fucking them, gypsy, whatever, does not matter.
Two vaccines announced I am hot to trot, a fence post in my pants and a lot of pent up horniness I plan to expend on some beauties in FKKs next year to make up lost time. Who else plans to have a total debauched tour ? Post covid, everything is more precious, it may be our last, when the going gets hard the hard gets going (snicker).