Sao Paulo Reports

Don't to offer a girl you've seen for the very first time a long term arrangement and give her anything up front. What I do is see them once or twice under standard "rules" f the venue which differ in different parts of the world. When I sense there's a connection and I REALLY like them I'll offer to see them outside of the venue. If they agree to the price I give them half when they show up at my door (on their dime) and immediately say I'll give them the other half when they leave (sometimes showing them the other half as I lock it in the safe). This has never failed me in any part of the world.

Don't pay any independent wg up front unless you're in the house's room. Sooner or later you'll get burnt.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2899904]Well that makes sense. If you pay half up front and she never shows then you know that the session would have been bad.[/QUOTE]

In regards to the overnight situation, I meant a upper end Professional Working Girl who has an active Twitter following and positive reviews, whom I've never met at all but was instantly attracted to her profile. Would be about 1,500 USD for the "day" along with any expenses of Food since hey I got to wine and dine her too, and I only considered this because I would have to fly her to me and really wanted to try her out. But I guess it would be far cheaper if I just flew myself to her and booked regularly.

On another note, do you all think Sao Paulo or Rio is worth it even on the rainy days? I'm looking at at least 5 constant days of heavy rain and thunderstorms Tues-Sunday on a potential 2 week visit this month, and I would want to hit up Scandallo on the "busiest" days of Wed and Thursday. Maybe the girls would settle for less because of the weather, or the best may not even show up at all.

Otherwise I'd have to wait until June, which may be pricier flight wise.

Woke up, it was drizzling, and saw some activity on the street thru my window. Wanted to check it out after breakfast. One of my favorite food item is pao na chapa. It's so common that I overlooked for a long time and now it is one of my favorite food. It's available all over Brazil but Sao Paulo is the best. It's crunchy and soft at the same time. You can treat it like toast and have the waiter add whatever you want. One of the best hot dog I have had was in Santa Catalina that has similar texture.

By the time I finished breakfast around 9:15, the even was at the end. I decided to follow the trail and reached the destination where there were different exercise or health related activities. On my way back I found a large crowd waiting at this cafe so I took note and plan to visit later. Discovery is one reason I like walking.

I stayed at different areas in Sao Paulo and there are always good bakeries around. I like them because I have most time in the morning. They are fast and you can ask them to make things how you want them. I don't prefer food that require explanation. Haha. I prefer girls that don't tell me her favorite restaurant is Nakka or some other famous ones. For the same type of girl, I prefer one with lower expection and tell me something that I don't know because it will last longer

Scheduled to have a date coming last night but she only sent me voice messages knowing that I have limited Portuguese. I got most of it but missed the part that she would come directly from work at a time earlier than I told her which caused some confusion because I had to deal with some house keeping problem in my apartment.

[QUOTE=Robotron;2900064]In regards to the overnight situation, I meant a upper end Professional Working Girl who has an active Twitter following and positive reviews, whom I've never met at all but was instantly attracted to her profile....[/QUOTE]Members are trying to tell you not do that. That's why some members said they give up advising people because some don't take advice. If they do, they would have read what have been written numerous times and not ask it again . You need to learn to walk before you run.

Don't pay before. Nothing is guaranteed but you will be on driver seat more if you pay after. Some girls will definitely bail on you even you pay after and it is a mater of how much you are going to pay her when she wants to leave. It makes no sense to make the girl stay when she does not want to. You need to read the context too. Anaggie maybe staying at a 5 star hotel. You are staying in an Airbnb and you will need to stock stuff well to provide the same level of comfort. I personally never pay for a girl to stay in Medellin, they just stayed that is part of the privilege of living there. I have a full fridge of drinks and food, and I can get many things quickly because they have delivery service to deliver things in 10 minutes. Medellin is very poor, most girls that we deal with don't have hot shower at home.

[QUOTE=Robotron;2900064]... I would want to hit up Scandallo on the "busiest" days of Wed and Thursday. Maybe the girls would settle for less because of the weather, or the best may not even show up at all.....[/QUOTE]Don't count on those days. Those days could be bad too. That's what some have written but when I went almost everyday of the week, Wednesday was dead, and Friday was not crowded but was great because the owner had invited agency girls to the club. Tuesday is good as it is like the start of the week. You need to take all posts into consideration to form a complete picture.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2900116]... I stayed at different areas in Sao Paulo and there are always good bakeries around. ....[/QUOTE]I had dinner at Margherita Pizzeria and I decided to walk back. I came across this bakery, Bella Paulista, which I knew about but forgot. I am pretty sure this one will be great based on the crowd.

I got a WhatsApp message from a woman I met elsewhere thru local friend. She said she miss me and like me. I think she had been waiting for me to make a move becasue there were hints. I asked if she knew I have left her city. She said she knew. I think she told me, although direct, because she knew it was too late. If you are wondering if she is hot. Only answer that people will believe is she looks ok. haha. But she is doing pretty well financially and independent based on what I have seen.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2900284]I had dinner at Margherita Pizzeria and I decided to walk back. I came across this bakery, Bella Paulista, which I knew about but forgot. I am pretty sure this one will be great based on the crowd.

[/QUOTE]I like Margherita Pizzeria too. If there is a better pizza place in SP I would like to know about it. I can't find one better. Bella Paulista looks good. I too like to walk around various neighborhoods in SP and take note of interesting restaurants with lots of customers I come across. I know the neighborhood covering your evening walk from Margherita to Bella Paulista. If you don't mind my asking, where are you staying?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2900404]I like Margherita Pizzeria too. If there is a better pizza place in SP I would like to know about it. I can't find one better. Bella Paulista looks good. I too like to walk around various neighborhoods in SP and take note of interesting restaurants with lots of customers I come across. I know the neighborhood covering your evening walk from Margherita to Bella Paulista. If you don't mind my asking, where are you staying?[/QUOTE]I am staying in Santa Cecilia. I look for places with large work area, overlooking city skyline, with balcony, and preferably one bedroom.

I agree Margherita Pizzeria is top in terms for food quality and service. In the area I am currently staying. I may go to Veridiana for meeting date the first time. It's a little more romantic. Or Fôrno if I am alone or someone that I already know.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2900404]I like Margherita Pizzeria too. If there is a better pizza place in SP I would like to know about it. I can't find one better. Bella Paulista looks good. I too like to walk around various neighborhoods in SP and take note of interesting restaurants with lots of customers I come across. I know the neighborhood covering your evening walk from Margherita to Bella Paulista. If you don't mind my asking, where are you staying?[/QUOTE]Difficult choice because they are so many great pizzerias 'them São Paulo. However, Pizzeria Bráz and A Pizza the Moóca are always ranked among the best in São Paulo. I also like Camelo. Bráz (not too far from Marriott Executive Apartments) and Camelo have different stores spread around the city.

Hi, I have a few questions here.

1) has anyone ever tried getting girls phone numbers at scandallo and negotiate a better pricing during the day? Maybe inviting girls to your place for 500 Reais instead of 1000-1500?

I used to do it in Europe. Meet girls at boates, get their number and negotiate during the day.

2) Any recommended clinicas de massagems in Sao Paulo?

3) for those who been to casarao. If going out with the girl, have to pay 150 fee, and their drinks, is that correct?

Thanks.

I agree with Anaggie. I love my BBFSCIP girls. What I do normally, is have two, three, or sometimes four on my line up rotation. All 9. 5+ stunners, nothing less. (Don't get me wrong, I'll bang a 7 if she has some crazy booty that I love but face is eh. LOL). But for GFE she has to be a stunner. I'll call them up. If one is unavailable that week, for whatever reason she wants to say, then I call the next one. Like Anaggie, my #1 on the line up one time said she's in a relationship, I said, we'll keep in touch on instagram, then I called my #2. But I am always on the look out for keep a stable of at least 2 on rotation. Once I land, I connect with whichever, we go to local clinic, I pay for her std rapid tests, you can take PrEP for extra caution, if all is good, then BBFSCIP on FULL Throttle LOL. Once you established a GFE with them, they always don't mind getting most (if not all) of the money at the end. Especially, if I am paying for her cab ride, and the dining, and shopping. It's normally all good.

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2899812]This is what I do but usually keep them for longer than a day. I enjoy the hunt at Scandello but then I am done after one or two nights. I don't have the social battery to be in those kind of places everyday trying out new girls. Having a connection is extremely important. And you can tell if there is a connection or not in a few minutes. I met a girl in Sept 2022 and she stayed the weekend with me. We had such a good connection that she was my only one for all of 2023 on all my trips to SP. It was so easy to just have her come over and not worry about being uncomfortable with each other. It was always BBFSCIP and she would do anal when she felt like it but it usually happened once or twice during the weekend. Unfortunately, she met someone early this year and I didn't get to see her on my last trip. But her relationship didn't work out so she got back in touch with me and maybe we will meet again in May.

To answer your questions. It all depends where you get her from. Like Scandello or a website or a clinica. I had some arrangements set up with girls from the web during Covid and then I had my last 2-3 girls set up from Scandello. Also, you need to make sure she understands you will pay her at the end of your time together. This way she won't bail on you. If she doesn't agree to payment at end, you can offer 50/50 and that is it. Do not offer to pay her up front. In your negotiations, you can ask for BBFS but make sure you have a recent STD test with you to put her at ease. Tell her what you are looking for and she will either do it or not. These girls have heard of everything so it isn't a shock to them.

Have fun and report back.[/QUOTE]

I always do it. First round in the boate, after a long conversation to check chemestry. After first round girls always give me the zapzap number and more important, reply the messages.

Then I propose more intimate visual production for our second encounter and most of the times we end up f**ing again after the shoot.

I have great walking tour videos about clinicas in SP. Drop me a pm for more specific info.

[QUOTE=MasterRochi;2900475]Hi, I have a few questions here.

1) has anyone ever tried getting girls phone numbers at scandallo and negotiate a better pricing during the day? Maybe inviting girls to your place for 500 Reais instead of 1000-1500?

I used to do it in Europe. Meet girls at boates, get their number and negotiate during the day.

2) Any recommended clinicas de massagems in Sao Paulo?

3) for those who been to casarao. If going out with the girl, have to pay 150 fee, and their drinks, is that correct?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2900523]I always do it. First round in the boate, after a long conversation to check chemestry. After first round girls always give me the zapzap number and more important, reply the messages. [/QUOTE]Hey Hidden, you do it / I do it / we all do it: that is we meet girls in the boate, audition them, have a good time drinking with them and test driving them, and if they pass the audition, we take them upstairs for a boom boom. It is the way its done. Afterwards you / me / everybody collects numbers of the girls we really like so we can arrange outside personal arrangements if WE want to. I end up not calling back most girls becasue there are so many great girls to play with, why bother, but occasionally I meet a keeper and I want to see more of her. KKK.

But what I think the OP was asking, was can one skip the in-house 1st session and by doing so somehow get a lower rate from a girl for a later assignation and save money. KKK. Now while this delay tactic might work with a Clinica or RJ Terma girl when she is not at work by dealing the house out of the transaction; for a boate girl the answer is no because a boate girl will always want her minimum fee, say X br for a session in or out of the boate. And since the customer has already paid a Boate entry fee to get into the club, the only savings he can achieve with this delay tactic is the room fee and +200 br is not worth putting off getting laid. IMHO. Also, one always has the option of taking a girl out of the boate, but the exit fee is set near the same amount as the room fee, so unless one wants LT right off the bat with a specific girl, it don't make much sense to take a girl I just met out of the club. That said, I have done it once or twice or three times with certain girls, and I have no regrets, but there was no real benefit to it either.

And what usually happens when I hook up with my repeat boate girls is I don't get a lower rate, I either get a little more time / an little more sex, or the upsell of a lot more time and a lot more sex. But outside the club hotel dates come with their own costs ie Uber, refreshments, and dinner. So for me I like seeing a few special girls repeatedly at my hotel and we make a night out of it, with no real savings involved, but with most girls, I enjoy doing them one or two times in the club and moving on.

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2900523]I always do it. First round in the boate, after a long conversation to check chemestry. After first round girls always give me the zapzap number and more important, reply the messages.

Then I propose more intimate visual production for our second encounter and most of the times we end up f**ing again after the shoot.

....[/QUOTE]I think he wants to know if you get 50% or more off, without a session first.

Let me think. A couple of times, girls I had already sessioned, introduced me to her friends in the boate, and without sessioning we later met. Let's say "this is my friend bla bla bla" and made the contact.

But no big discount.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2900531]I think he wants to know if you get 50% or more off, without a session first.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2899680]You can start with short time. If it works out, then you can get longer date. You should not be asked to pay before after first date. If she insist, NEXT. You problem is solved.[/QUOTE]One of the most basic rules of this hobby. Always do a short test drive before committing to a longer date.