Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=HenryR;1804687]I visited it yesterday, although I abstained. The girls are mostly attractive, 7's, some 8's. Prices are 1000 B ST, 350 B barfine.

Drinks are B60, and B120 for ladies drinks. Most of the customers seemed to be Europeans. This is a very nice, classy place. It's not near the beach though, kind of out of the way, so you may need a taxi.[/QUOTE]Heard about this place sometime ago and yesterday me and my friend went along to have look. It's about half way down Soi 5 you need to go into a smaller Soi on the right side as you go down.

We was a bit later arriving we soon had a couple of half decent ones on to us we duly obliged 350 + 1000 as they was getting to the end of their shift about 6 or 7 pm so was rushing us along usual story rooms get full.

Very professional ladies who if your not careful quickly take control and before you know it its all over done and dusted.

One very striking thing was when we left a lot young men hanging around outside obviously waiting for their beloved cash machine to finish up and divvy out the earnings which is probably 4 or 5000 a day at least.

All in all not a bad option if you compare it to your average FKK.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1804736]I visit that place every time I am in Pattaya. When you say 350 bahts barfine, you mean for the room on premise. I've never taken a girl to my hotel room. I assume one can do that, but I just wanted to clarify that they have rooms on the premises. I usually go on Saturdays, when they have barbecue for lunch and they refund you the lunch money if you have a session with a girl.

Indeed, you need a taxi or a baht bus if you know your way around. The place is in Jomtien, or close to it.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I meant one of the rooms at the Kinnaree Club is B 350. I didn't ask what the deal is for taking a girl out. Does anyone know?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1804749]What the what! They must not visit too often. One look around and you will know that 1, many girls on Soi 6 do not speak English well if hardly any indicating they have not been around foreigners long enough and 2, the girls on Soi 6 are not old. What I call the hidden away bars around Pattaya is where they finish. For instance, recently I fucked a 40 year old from a bar on Klang 16. She showed me this picture from when she was 28 years old new to Pattaya, and working on Soi 6.[/QUOTE]Actually, what you wrote makes sense. Maybe my friends are wrong. By the way, 2 Go Go Bars opened on Soi 6. Very close to each other. One is named Passions, can't remember the name of the other one, which is a few doors down. Both have good looking dancers. I took one to my hotel for LT. This is kind of surprising. Soi 6 is the last place in Pattaya where I would have expected to find all nighters. It seemed to me in the past to be just for "quickies". But I guess the go go bars there are much different than the other Soi 6 bars.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;1804853]Only took a girl on soi 6 twice. First time was about 3 years ago and it was 1000 all in (300 room cost, 700 for the girl). The second time was early this year and it was 300 plus 1000. I also confirmed this with a guy I know who owns a bar on soi 6. So 1300 is the going rate as of late last year to early this year.

Having mentioned all of that it is also important to note that the girls part can always be negotiated. Especially if she knows you or if she likes you or if her rent is due (LOL). But most guys don't have enough time for all of that when they are visiting. Might as well just pay the increased rate and enjoy yourself.[/QUOTE]I'm in Pattaya now. My previous visit was in 2012. In 2012, a girl at a Soi 6 bar charged me higher than the standard rate. I assumed it's because I'm older. So the girls may have two rates, depending on their customer. The room rate stays the same.

[QUOTE=HenryR;1805507]Soi 6 is the last place in Pattaya where I would have expected to find all nighters. It seemed to me in the past to be just for "quickies". But I guess the go go bars there are much different than the other Soi 6 bars.[/QUOTE]You can take a girl from any bar on Soi 6 LT. With my experience this is when it is easier to negotiate a price. I think the barfine is fixed at 500 baht before midnight but after it goes down to 300. Then you negotiate the rest with the girl. And don't be afraid to negotiate. As I reported before a girl told me to just give her whatever I wanted (which is always 1000 LT) and another guy a few months ago told a girl that he would pay the bar fine but he was not going to give her any money. That was cool with her.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1805524]You can take a girl from any bar on Soi 6 LT. With my experience this is when it is easier to negotiate a price. I think the barfine is fixed at 500 baht before midnight but after it goes down to 300. Then you negotiate the rest with the girl. And don't be afraid to negotiate. [/QUOTE]That's also my experience. I note that some posters say that many girls won't do LT, but in my view this is not correct. Having said that, the girls are not machines. A lot depends on whether they like you. If they do not they will not come on to you. If, nevertheless, you tap them on the shoulder and ask for their rates they'll do their job (otherwise they're in trouble with the mamasan) and go upstairs. But they will be unwilling to sleep in your bed, and the bar won't force them to do so. My best advice would be to just sit down in the bar and see what girls are trying to "seduce" you. If you fancy one of those, have a drink. Then negotiate. If she makes the first move there's room for plenty of negotiation.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1804749]One look around and you will know that 1, many girls on Soi 6 do not speak English well if hardly any indicating they have not been around foreigners long enough and 2, the girls on Soi 6 are not old.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree. I have asked around one a couple of occasions to know how my various "girlfriends" had ended up on Soi 6, and it seems that a large portion have been recruited in factories in Bangkok. The usual trail is, they move from Isaan to BKK in search of work and an income, but are disappointed with the low pay, the backbreaking work and the high prices of the city. Then someone whispers in their ear that they could multiply their earnings by coming to Pattaya. - And mum and dad need never know how the money they send home was earned.

[QUOTE=Priamos;1805531]Yes, I agree. I have asked around one a couple of occasions to know how my various "girlfriends" had ended up on Soi 6, and it seems that a large portion have been recruited in factories in Bangkok. The usual trail is, they move from Isaan to BKK in search of work and an income, but are disappointed with the low pay, the backbreaking work and the high prices of the city. Then someone whispers in their ear that they could multiply their earnings by coming to Pattaya. - And mum and dad need never know how the money they send home was earned.[/QUOTE]I would agree with your basic scenario but I believe there is one step missing in it; the discouraged former Bangkok factory girl tries her hand at earning that higher paycheck in Bangkok's P4 P scene first. When she fails to compete and make a go of it in Bangkok, that is when she moves to Pattaya to see if her lower level of skills, looks and commitment to the job might be suitable for Pattaya standards even if they are not suitable for Bangkok standards. 555. My Humble Opinion and observation of the Pattaya scene vs the Bangkok scene at least.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1805541]I would agree with your basic scenario but I believe there is one step missing in it; the discouraged former Bangkok factory girl tries her hand at earning that higher paycheck in Bangkok's P4 P scene first. When she fails to compete and make a go of it in Bangkok, that is when she moves to Pattaya to see if her lower level of skills, looks and commitment to the job might be suitable for Pattaya standards even if they are not suitable for Bangkok standards. 555. My Humble Opinion and observation of the Pattaya scene vs the Bangkok scene at least.[/QUOTE]Well, that would account for the generally poor linguistic skills in Pattaya. LOL. Bar girls in Bangkok, even the young ones, are generally much better at entertaining guests in English than their "sisters" in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=HenryR;1805511]I'm in Pattaya now. My previous visit was in 2012. In 2012, a girl at a Soi 6 bar charged me higher than the standard rate. I assumed it's because I'm older. So the girls may have two rates, depending on their customer. The room rate stays the same.[/QUOTE]Many many years ago, there was a website (sadly I lost the link) that estimated the girl's fee based upon a number of parameters (ST / LT; Soi 6/ BR / gogo / massage place; incall / outcall; services requested; . . .) and one of the parameters was indeed the age of the punter.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1805524] I think the barfine is fixed at 500 baht before midnight but after it goes down to 300.[/QUOTE]The bars don't have a fixed BF price for long time. Some bars ask for 800/1000 baht for BF a girl LT before midnight. I have a friend that pick up a lady LT in Sky Bar (800 baht BF for LT) and he also ask in Lisa Bar how much is the BF for LT and they said is 1000 baht.

I know Red Point ask for 500 baht BF if you want a ST in your hotel, I don't know how much they ask for BF longtime.

[QUOTE=Priamos;1805528], the girls are not machines. A lot depends on whether they like you. If they do not they will not come on to you. If, nevertheless, you tap them on the shoulder and ask for their rates they'll do their job (otherwise they're in trouble with the mamasan) and go upstairs. But they will be unwilling to sleep in your bed, and the bar won't force them to do so. My best advice would be to just sit down in the bar and see what girls are trying to "seduce" you. If you fancy one of those, have a drink. Then negotiate. If she makes the first move there's room for plenty of negotiation.[/QUOTE]Excellent advice!

[QUOTE=HenryR;1805507]Actually, what you wrote makes sense. Maybe my friends are wrong. [/QUOTE]I don't think your friends are wrong.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1805569]The bars don't have a fixed BF price for long time. Some bars ask for 800/1000 baht for BF a girl LT before midnight. I have a friend that pick up a lady LT in Sky Bar (800 baht BF for LT)[/QUOTE]I am not at all too familiar with the other bars, but my buddy owns Sky Bar. I knew him before he had a bar and was coming over from Korea to monger. I was also there when he took the cash over and bought the adjoining bar. I have never heard of an 800 baht bar fine there. Could be possible though if you are taking the girl at 6 pm.

[QUOTE=ChristianG;1805569]The bars don't have a fixed BF price for long time. Some bars ask for 800/1000 baht for BF a girl LT before midnight. I have a friend that pick up a lady LT in Sky Bar (800 baht BF for LT) and he also ask in Lisa Bar how much is the BF for LT and they said is 1000 baht.

I know Red Point ask for 500 baht BF if you want a ST in your hotel, I don't know how much they ask for BF longtime.[/QUOTE]That's right. Each bar can make their own price from barfining the girl to leave the bar.

To go upstairs is set at 300. To have the girl leave the bar to go to your hotel is not the same.

There were some British guys staying here 2 months ago. One night, they each brought girls back. One of the girls had a nice round ass. The next day I asked him where he found his girl. He said soi 6. What was the barfine, 800.