Hong Kong Club Reports

After my drunk girl on Tuesday I decided to see if she was working on Sunday. Walked in close to midnight and the place was still crowded, yet the selection of girls seemed worse than Tuesday. I hadn't been impressed with the talent the last time I was in HK on a Sunday as well. When discussing this with my waiter he agreed and said he thinks Tuesday nights have become better than Sunday. Also this is the first time I noticed a female worker on the HK side with a big tattoo on her neck that was stopping girls from doing lap dances, and trying to push the lap dance. I'll have to find out more about this stupid rule if I notice it again next time.

BTW for some reason it was mucho warmer on the Chavelas side and I would have to occasionally go sit in HK for some time just to get cool air.

[QUOTE=Phazze93;2828590]Ok just got back home from a serious fkin bender. But here's the quick recap.

In that moment, I'm just like. I'm going to back charge this shit on my card because its horseshit.
Next morning I go talk to the manager and they can't even FIND the transaction in any of their logs.
[/QUOTE]So I already filed the back charge through my bank / CC. Because not only was it a BS charge. They lost my drivers license in the process. And didn't have any log of the transaction the following day.

Question for all here.

Assuming my bank is going to contact Cascadas / HK. If they get in touch and whatever happens. Am I going to get blackballed / banned from HK now? Because they have the copy of my ID from check-in.

[QUOTE=Phazze93;2828860]So I already filed the back charge through my bank / CC. Because not only was it a BS charge. They lost my drivers license in the process. And didn't have any log of the transaction the following day.

Question for all here .

Assuming my bank is going to contact Cascadas / HK. If they get in touch and whatever happens. Am I going to get blackballed / banned from HK now? Because they have the copy of my ID from check-in.[/QUOTE]That's messed up they lost your ID. I'd be complaining to them about that. I once cancelled a transaction at Adelitas. A little different because they didn't ask for my ID so they didn't know me. But when I told my credit card company to cancel it, they cancelled it. There was no dispute. I don't even think they reached out to Adelitas. That being said, I think HK is more likely to make note of it. If there is an issue just use cash when you go.

[QUOTE=RedBaron78;2828864]That's messed up they lost your ID. I'd be complaining to them about that. I once cancelled a transaction at Adelitas. A little different because they didn't ask for my ID so they didn't know me. But when I told my credit card company to cancel it, they cancelled it. There was no dispute. I don't even think they reached out to Adelitas. That being said, I think HK is more likely to make note of it. If there is an issue just use cash when you go.[/QUOTE]I also wouldn't have paid them. Nobody told you you'd have to pay a fee. That's not your fault. If the girl gets in trouble that's her problem because she knows the rules. HK is never consistent with anything. Sometimes they charge $300 to take the girl all night. I've had people tell me they paid HK a $200 fee. But if they say $250 and you pay it they'll take it. I would have said no. The girl would have left and I would have gone on with my night.

[QUOTE=RedBaron78;2828864]That's messed up they lost your ID. I'd be complaining to them about that. I once cancelled a transaction at Adelitas. A little different because they didn't ask for my ID so they didn't know me. But when I told my credit card company to cancel it, they cancelled it. There was no dispute. I don't even think they reached out to Adelitas. That being said, I think HK is more likely to make note of it. If there is an issue just use cash when you go.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=RedBaron78;2828865]I also wouldn't have paid them. Nobody told you you'd have to pay a fee. That's not your fault. If the girl gets in trouble that's her problem because she knows the rules. HK is never consistent with anything. Sometimes they charge $300 to take the girl all night. I've had people tell me they paid HK a $200 fee. But if they say $250 and you pay it they'll take it. I would have said no. The girl would have left and I would have gone on with my night.[/QUOTE]It was a Saturday night so maybe it was that? Took her around peak time.

You're 100% right. Only excuse I have was that I was shitfaced and I shit you not I was mid-sex when the knock came and little brain took control LOL.

Good idea on just using 100% cash if I'm afraid of being blacklisted.

[QUOTE=RedBaron78;2828864]That's messed up they lost your ID. I'd be complaining to them about that. I once cancelled a transaction at Adelitas. A little different because they didn't ask for my ID so they didn't know me. But when I told my credit card company to cancel it, they cancelled it. There was no dispute. I don't even think they reached out to Adelitas. That being said, I think HK is more likely to make note of it. If there is an issue just use cash when you go.[/QUOTE]That's interesting. I know Adelitas is closed now but didn't even know you could use credit cards at Adelitas. Always thought they were cash only though I never asked.

[QUOTE=Sol12;2828788]After my drunk girl on Tuesday I decided to see if she was working on Sunday. Walked in close to midnight and the place was still crowded, yet the selection of girls seemed worse than Tuesday. I hadn't been impressed with the talent the last time I was in HK on a Sunday as well. When discussing this with my waiter he agreed and said he thinks Tuesday nights have become better than Sunday. Also this is the first time I noticed a female worker on the HK side with a big tattoo on her neck that was stopping girls from doing lap dances, and trying to push the lap dance. I'll have to find out more about this stupid rule if I notice it again next time.

BTW for some reason it was mucho warmer on the Chavelas side and I would have to occasionally go sit in HK for some time just to get cool air.[/QUOTE]It is common to find various security watching the girls interact with you and if a lap dance gets too wild, then they push for VIP. If the chica continues being wild without you taking them VIP, then they get reprimanded. The lap dance isn't wild, but normal in USA Clubs, but just another HK way to fleece their patrons. Never used to be like this before. Crazy thing is in the past had a chica riding cowgirl on second floor and nobody complained, but meseros kept coming by to ask if I want to buy the fichas. I either got the chica shots or just waived them off. Miss those crazy times. I guess they want to make it a tame gentlemen's club. They should make it like a circus similar to Thailand where chicks blow darts from their snatch or other various shows. Only thing similar I saw was some chica smoking a cigarette from her snatch when smoking was allowed in the club. I'm still puzzled how they can do it.

[QUOTE=Phazze93;2828860]So I already filed the back charge through my bank / CC. Because not only was it a BS charge. They lost my drivers license in the process. And didn't have any log of the transaction the following day.

Question for all here .

Assuming my bank is going to contact Cascadas / HK. If they get in touch and whatever happens. Am I going to get blackballed / banned from HK now? Because they have the copy of my ID from check-in.[/QUOTE]Well HK has been charging for girls staying in the room during their shift for some time now. Before they would only charge a bar fine if you left with the girl, many girls began spending most of their shift in guys hotel room which meant less girls in the club selling fichas. So they've become more strict. I'm not sure how they knew the girl was going to spend the rest of the night with you unless your girl told them but the was you described the transaction this wasn't brought up till you were in the room so I'm still confused. The girl definitely knew you would have to pay if she stayed with you but I'm sure she didn't want to bring it up since you would've probably not taken her for so long.

To me $250 I don't think is going to cause you to become homeless I'd just chalk it up as a learning experience. I remember a story a few years ago about some rapper or athlete that went to a strip club and used his AMEX at the club to get $20 k in cash from the club, he spent 10 k and called the card the next day to dispute the charge. They reimbursed him but he was bragging about it on social media and was caught. I personally don't bring any plastic in the club to keep me from being to stupid when I drink too much.

[QUOTE=KBToys;2829002]It is common to find various security watching the girls interact with you and if a lap dance gets too wild, then they push for VIP. If the chica continues being wild without you taking them VIP, then they get reprimanded. The lap dance isn't wild, but normal in USA Clubs, but just another HK way to fleece their patrons. Never used to be like this before. Crazy thing is in the past had a chica riding cowgirl on second floor and nobody complained, but meseros kept coming by to ask if I want to buy the fichas. I either got the chica shots or just waived them off. Miss those crazy times. I guess they want to make it a tame gentlemen's club. They should make it like a circus similar to Thailand where chicks blow darts from their snatch or other various shows. Only thing similar I saw was some chica smoking a cigarette from her snatch when smoking was allowed in the club. I'm still puzzled how they can do it.[/QUOTE]Well I know I've read about this sometimes happening but this is the first time I've seen it. The girl wasn't security just had a pad of papers which I imagine were the lap dance tickets. I have never seen this girl selling these things before and the vibe in the club was much different on Sunday compared to Tuesday. On Tuesday the girl I was drinking with was like an Energizer bunny giving me a lap dance the whole time and always keeping my hands on her breasts. I'll find out more on my next visit maybe they are just stricter if your no buying drinks.

[QUOTE=Sol12;2829060]Well I know I've read about this sometimes happening but this is the first time I've seen it. The girl wasn't security just had a pad of papers which I imagine were the lap dance tickets. I have never seen this girl selling these things before and the vibe in the club was much different on Sunday compared to Tuesday. On Tuesday the girl I was drinking with was like an Energizer bunny giving me a lap dance the whole time and always keeping my hands on her breasts. I'll find out more on my next visit maybe they are just stricter if your no buying drinks.[/QUOTE]The girl walking around with these tickets works in the Miami room. She's security (the girl you tip) that gives you the booth for a lap dance. She told me she is selling a lap dance pass. If I remember right she said it was $30. If you buy it, you can take any girl to the Miami room (not in the booth) and the girl can dance on you all she wants. Apparently you can take all the girls you want to the Miami room as long as you buy this $30 lap dance pass.

Buying this would only make sense if you already knew the girl, you know she's going to be fun, and you want to hang out with her for a while having fun in the club. If it's not someone you already know, maybe the girl doesn't even want to give a lap dance in the club. And who wants to tell the girls your bought a lap dance pass so so we should go sit in the Miami room. I'd never buy something like this.

The last year HK has made a lot of changes. One of those changes is never running out of new ideas to try to make more money.

[QUOTE=RedBaron78;2829112]The girl walking around with these tickets works in the Miami room. She's security (the girl you tip) that gives you the booth for a lap dance. She told me she is selling a lap dance pass. If I remember right she said it was $30. If you buy it, you can take any girl to the Miami room (not in the booth) and the girl can dance on you all she wants. Apparently you can take all the girls you want to the Miami room as long as you buy this $30 lap dance pass.

Buying this would only make sense if you already knew the girl, you know she's going to be fun, and you want to hang out with her for a while having fun in the club. If it's not someone you already know, maybe the girl doesn't even want to give a lap dance in the club. And who wants to tell the girls your bought a lap dance pass so so we should go sit in the Miami room. I'd never buy something like this.

The last year HK has made a lot of changes. One of those changes is never running out of new ideas to try to make more money.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information, I don't ever have an issue with HK trying to make more money but would bug me if this happened to me and I'd probably tell her to F off.

[QUOTE=Phazze93;2828590]Ok just got back home from a serious fkin bender. But here's the quick recap.

So I'm horrible with names. Hardly remember what names these girls told me vs. What their instagram names are LOL.
i was also shit faced drunk like 90% of the time... context, i'm in my early 30's and so are my buddies. we're all objectively good looking, well dressed/mannered and know how to have a good time.

Girl #2, Sun 11 am , best looking one at that time, needed to nut and sleep.
6/10, darker skinned than my usual type, but tight body and ok face.
CBJ because she needs to "trust guys more" which sucked. But I fked her with every ounce of energy I had left and slept after.
$100 flat, no tip because of the BJ thing, 35 min?.[/QUOTE]That's an interesting moment to use your card. The 1 and only time I used my card foe the hotel their was fraud charges around the world within a couple hours. It's possible they simply wanted your license. To use for something. Personally I would never return if I was gona Dona charge back. I'd be afraid of winding up in Mexican jail. But. How would hk ever win that dispute? I'm gona have to go out on a limb, without being a lawyer, and without being from Mexico, and say. That the whole idea of making a guy pay money for a girl leaving her job early isn't legal. You can't even smoke in bars in Mexico but that's legal? And I won't get I to the whole aspect that these hotels, legally, from what others write, have nothing to do with the bars underneath, legally. You see my point? I haven't had a girl flirt with me the last 35 times in hk. The last time one did I also got told I had to pay for the VIP booth. I was annoyed. Hk already priced me out of sex. But now I can't buy fichas if the girls gona flirt with me? Ok no problem. The last 35 times I went I bought 1 ficha maybe. And tipped the girls on stages and left within 25 minutes. Not that the other bars were much better with the flirting but at least it wasn't like they told other girls in other bars to stop flirting.

[QUOTE=RedBaron78;2829112]The last year HK has made a lot of changes. One of those changes is never running out of new ideas to try to make more money.[/QUOTE]I think every business model includes this ideology.

[QUOTE=RedBaron78;2829112]The girl walking around with these tickets works in the Miami room. She's security (the girl you tip) that gives you the booth for a lap dance. She told me she is selling a lap dance pass. If I remember right she said it was $30. If you buy it, you can take any girl to the Miami room (not in the booth) and the girl can dance on you all she wants. Apparently you can take all the girls you want to the Miami room as long as you buy this $30 lap dance pass.

Buying this would only make sense if you already knew the girl, you know she's going to be fun, and you want to hang out with her for a while having fun in the club. If it's not someone you already know, maybe the girl doesn't even want to give a lap dance in the club. And who wants to tell the girls your bought a lap dance pass so so we should go sit in the Miami room. I'd never buy something like this.

The last year HK has made a lot of changes. One of those changes is never running out of new ideas to try to make more money.[/QUOTE]I would have to guess, that hk has a lot of available hotel rooms not being used, if they are so determined to avoid guys flirting in the club and then not needing sex. To me, 10 dollar ficha, which is really 15 when average put the expensive drinks some girls get, of hk gets 11 of that, the girl gets 3 or 4, 1 dollar for the cost of it, and then the waiter gets paid a tip, and the waiter pays to go to work in Hong Kong many guys have written. Hence the 1000 waiters in Hong Kong. So I'm not sure if hk made the est economic decision, which was essentially, "let's male sure they keep paying for hotels rooms and not just coming here to hang out flirt with woman and leave". To me I'm seeing signs that they are losing customers as even with Adelitas gone there's not a lot large crowds many nights of the weak. You wonder if the desire for quick $$ now, all at once will eliminate the whole scene as people stop coming and prices increase to make up for lost business which is the Tijuana business model.

[QUOTE=Dogers69;2829295]I would have to guess, that hk has a lot of available hotel rooms not being used, if they are so determined to avoid guys flirting in the club and then not needing sex. To me, 10 dollar ficha, which is really 15 when average put the expensive drinks some girls get, of hk gets 11 of that, the girl gets 3 or 4, 1 dollar for the cost of it, and then the waiter gets paid a tip, and the waiter pays to go to work in Hong Kong many guys have written. Hence the 1000 waiters in Hong Kong. So I'm not sure if hk made the est economic decision, which was essentially, "let's male sure they keep paying for hotels rooms and not just coming here to hang out flirt with woman and leave". To me I'm seeing signs that they are losing customers as even with Adelitas gone there's not a lot large crowds many nights of the weak. You wonder if the desire for quick $$ now, all at once will eliminate the whole scene as people stop coming and prices increase to make up for lost business which is the Tijuana business model.[/QUOTE]As I understand it. Because of the Pandemic, we were hit with 3 hyper inflations. The 1st one was durable goods where people spent to buy giant TVs. I cannot Remember what the 3rd one was, but the 2nd one was revenge inflation where everyone spent for hotels and travel, and that is what HK was. I don't know how far Mexico trails, the United States, but I know that the 1st hyperinflation is now starting to deflate. And the revenge inflation have flattened. I wonder if HK is facing the same thing.