Bangalore

Hello friends,

Planning to take this profile today afternoon. 6 k for 2 shots.

Got it down from 10 k.

Any experience? Any suggestions?

Regards

dear ashwinder bro.

i am speechless, as rarest of rare people get to experience what you just experience. i had a similar chick from south america, but she was not a wg.

she was a hot milf and we had a great short relationship. but i can feel you bro.

cheers and may we always have our unique memories.

salud!

[quote=ashwinder;1614148]another europe experience from five years ago- late june 2009. i remember this experience clearly as it was on my last night in europe that year. i checked out of my sachsenhausen apartment in frankfurt a day earlier than my departure. i gave up most of my belongings- clothes and trinkets- accumulated over the last year to the red cross. next, i heaved another large bag to the deutsche post office near my apartment and sent out all the parcels (more knick-knacks and useless souvenirs) to family and friends in india. the more controversial artefacts- masturbation sleeves. were packed deep into the only bag i was carrying. they were for friends (and me) who had spent an eternity looking at fleshlight pop-up ads. i had put them into boxes made to hold candles to mask their thermal signature (i thought they were illegal, they are not). i put my luggage in the cloak room at the airport and rubbed my hands with glee anticipating about my last night with christina. i called her confirming, i am on my way to fulda to pick her up. i imagined her smiling, well if not thinking about me, at least about the 300 euros i was paying her for spending the night with me.

i had met cristina at a strip-club named "stars" on kaiserstrasse, six months or so back. since then, i visited her in her red-light-district room every week, sometimes twice a week. on my last night, i intended to say goodbye to every bit of her. as i transited through the hbf (train station) to take a train to fulda, i drank my last 30 ml of absynthe, packed some of cristi's favourite vodka and wolfed down some serious roast pork knuckle and bratwurst to gear up for the night to come. i felt i knew pretty much everything about her. i had been with her around 35-40 of the 80 times i had had sex in my life until then (i was 21, i kept a count until the first 100, these are the things that you do, i would have written the count on my facbook profile if there was a column). she was romanian, knew her full name. i had dropped her to the hbf for her train home many times. we had walked arm in arm. she had accompanied me. without charge. to all kinds of social engagements. i had seniors from my uni jealous of me because of her (she works at the market near my apartment, i had told them). i knew her fears, her goals in life, everything that i thought there was to know about a woman. she was tall almost 5-9 or 5-10, she had dark long hair. an angelic body. she would score a 100 on anyone's scale of 10.

so i took the train to fulda and waited for her at the station. she turned up 10 or so minutes later. there was a man with her. he was shorter than either of us and had visible wrinkles. "this is nico" (rico or mika what ever, i was not paying attention) she said "he workz at'za clinic" . she was getting me and herself tested for stds. i appreciated that. we sat at the clinic for twenty minutes and waited for the results. i asked her. who the guy was again? she did not answer so i quit asking. we cleared the tests and headed back to my 90 euro hotel near the airport. it was like every time we had met. she had her arms around mine, head rest on my shoulder. we had lunch at the chinese buffet near the hbf we walked around the riviera. we were sitting by the maine river in frankfurt when i reached down for some dfk. we had never kissed each other and today will be no different. i was hoping it would be different, but her polite stare and playful laugh, that i had grown used to as a sign of denial told me it won't be. she knew i knew that was the signal for "do not proceed".

our action started at the hotel elevator- its europe no one bats an eyelid at two people hugging and biting. she always over-compensated for not giving dfk. she was pretty much licking the brown off me. i had a red mark on my lower cheek by the time we reached our room. we gasped for breath after we reached inside (ironic) and started a minute after. i had left a bite mark under her ear. i had licked the corners of her eyes, both our ears were aching from the elevator bites. she stripped me. i hugged her in her floral skirt. the fabric was too thin to block my erection from touching her. it no longer mattered if she was wearing clothes. i was bear-hugging her to death. she stepped back, smiled and removed her dress and everything else, pushed me down on the bed and started a heavenly bbbj. she had not even washed me like every other day. a few minutes or so later, i was struggling not to cum and pushed her away. i reached for my condom (billy boy), picked her up and dropped down on the bed and entered he. i humped her mad for a 2 minute and blasted deep in her. the urge to kiss her lips was so great that i buried my head in her neck and bit her, softly and grunted like a bull. she had been holding my arm until then, she moved them to my back and head and caressed them. i remember looking back down at her flustered face. it was still hot and red. "you have not come, have you" i asked. "itz ok, vi'll longer nuxt time" she said. she was an angel.

she washed her self, washed me. ordered for coffee and raspberry ice-cream and sat down back. smiling, she even knew my food habits. it was still around 6, the sun was up and my room had a terrace. we sat there on a large arm chair, she with her coffee, me with my ice-cream rubbing my nose on the back of her bathing gown. we were not talking. "i am gone tomorrow" i said, i was probably not going to meet her again. she looked back, she was sitting on my lap. "yuss" she said and rested back on my chest. we were not talking much. there was nothing left to talk about. it was getting cold, we went inside. i got into the sheet hugged her and went to sleep for an hour.

when i woke up, she was awake she had not moved. she pulled me out and gave me a nice shower. we hugged, i kept kissing her. my cock was up. we dried ourselves and went to the bed. she put me down on the chair and started sucking my cock. her arms hugging my waist. i put my hands on her head and went rough. she never minded it. she went down licked my balls rubbed her face all over my groin. i felt like i was going to cum, so i picked her up and threw her on the bed and started kissing her all over. man, i have an appetite for licking a girls body. i was like a dog, i did not spare any bit of her. i went lick her pussy, she was wet, i licked an made her cum. you will know when a woman comes. she will push your head away immediately after. i was not done yet, i turned her around and started rimming her. she squealed, clutched my calf muscles, kissed the area above my ankle. i don't think many people had rimmed her before. i licked the are above her ass, she was making noises, i think she came again she moved my head away from her ass. "you are dirty" she quipped. she gripped my cock and took me to the bath room. "brush" she said. "i am not loosing your smell" i replied. i was being sincere, i really did not want to. she made me sit on the chamberpot and rinsed my mouth with toothpaste. she pinched my nose when i refused to open my mouth.

after she was done she looked back at me. "are you angry" early versions of my now perfect puppyface look said to her. "no, you reed cuma citra? " she asked. " watch kino (porn) " i replied. she smiled. she sat on me lap all over again. worked an erection up. "this time, cum" she said and started sucking me. i was still on the toilet and she was sucking me up. i responded well, my dick was a little tired, it needed her loving lips. but i was not going to cim. i was always definite about cumming inside a woman. i flipped her and put my cock inside, this time bare. she did not protest, i was stunned (the std test had been for cim and bbj, not bareback). i could not believe my luck. it was my first and only bareback till date. it feels phenomenal, i turned her around, there on the bathroom floor. picked her up into the bed room and went on top of her. i made her suck my cock sitting on her tits for sometime and went back dowm and humped her to my hearts content. "nut inzide" she said as i made my about-to-explode face. she pulled my dick out and took it in her mouth and rubbed my ass crack. i came. gushing, with the water and everything. bull grunting was replaced by some nauseating banshee, that i did not know existed in me. i had come a lot, her mouth was full of it. she could not hold it to spit in the bathroom and it spilled from her lips on to her body. she laughed, i laughed, she looked angelic with cum dripping from her mouth. surely now she would not mind me kissing her lips. "dirrty" she said as i tried to. "after we are clean?" i asked eagerly. "no" she said "we go out, eat".

we went into the shower together. i felt like pissing and moved out of the cubicle "do on me" i heard. i turned back "gulden shawar" she said. my eyes were round not believing my luck. she caught my cock and sucked the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] up, massaged my shaved pubes, she was a pro. i pissed all over her face and hair. oh god. i wanted to marry this woman, be her slave forever- i would give up every ambition. she smiled at my gaping stupid face and turned the water on. we let it wash us down. scrubbed each other clean. "why you no use condom?" she asked as i cleaned her vag with her vag-soap. "i just thought i could" i said "i love you". "it ok " she said and "i check you before" she smiled.

we put our clothes on and headed out. she wore a kurti i had bought her once, with her jeans. it was cold, i gave her my jacket. we went to a movie- it was in german- neither of us understood shit. had dinner by the maine river, drank wine, red sweet. it was unsexual, we had exhausted our fluids. i had started feeling sad, she probably noticed that. " i suck you, when we go back" she said. we went back to our hotel. the guy at the door was smiling, he was old, nothing made him happier than young love (or probably room service had reported the aftermath of our fuckings to everyone in the hotel).

neither of us had any energy left (i did not). it was 10:30 in the night and we cozied into the sheets. i hugged her and started kissing her all over again. she put the tv on and we started watching it. my dick had a feeble erection it was aching. it touched her vagina. "sleep" she said. i drank a bourbon from the mini bar and snuggled up in her arms and fell asleep. it was 6 am when i woke. the sun was up and so was christina. "you slept?" i asked "you make noise" she replied. "sorry" i apologised wondering if i had farted or snored. "i sleep well" she assured. we went out to the terrace for the morning light. i had a flight at 7 in the evening. it was my last morning. we went to the buffet at seven. finished our morning stuff came back up. her train was at 10. i had time for one last session with her. we fucked for an hour or more she sucked me up, rimmed me, i fucked her without cover and even tried anal (anal and rimming are common in europe, if you are taking a girl for lt). i came in her ass. we had another shower session. she put her clothes on. i was never going to see her naked again. i dressed up too. my heart now heavy, my face welling up just that little bit. we held hands all our way to fulda.

as the train reached the station, that short man from yesterday was there for her. "who is he?" i asked christina one last time. "my boyfriend" she replied and smiled. he was polish i could tell that from his looks. i headed out of the train with her, smiled at her boyfriend. he returned a stony look. i congratulated him on having such a wonderful girlfriend in my broken german. that pissed him off. (my oversmart, supercocky, 20 yr old self had proved its dim wit). he said something in german and pushed me, he had been drinking. i lunged for him back my fist reaching his chin. then it happened, christina reached down for him and kissed him straight in the lips. i saw that. she broke the fight. she would not look back at me. fulda is an empty station mid-morning, a lady walked down the subway staring at me. i stayed that few extra moments nonplussed. they kept on kissing. at it like animals. she was his. it was her way of showing it. she would not kiss me for all the money in the world. that was my cue to leave. when i returned on the frankfurt side platform they had left. i was dazed.

so that was how it ended, my year in europe. my strongest memory of christie is still her kissing that short, greying polish oldie. i hated them. but that was not the end. i was having lunch at the chinese buffet, when she called me. she was crying. i said sorry as soon as i picked up her call. "nut your fault, when your flight?" she asked. "7" i replied. "i come to airport". "you don't have to" finally some chivalry creeping into me. it was 5 when i reached the main atrium of terminal 1 of fraport (frankfurt airport). she was already there. she wore a white coat and black trousers. she had no make-up. she looked nice. she smiled and hugged me. "you really leaving?" she exclaimed staring at the red travel-bag. "yes" i said. i was close to tears. she kissed me in the lips. finally- one kiss for me too. we kissed for minutes. i was crying, so was she. i was too tall and sturdy to cry. she wiped my tears with her scarf. "i am sorry" i said as we broke up "i did not know". "it ok" she said working up a smile 'he love me too". "i love you more" i said. " i have baby with him" she said " 2 year old" i laughed, the finality of her words striking me. she understood that i understood. "i hope she is like you and not him" i smiled and told her. she smiled, i smiled, we kissed again for a little bit. i knew that this was our last meeting. she pulled out 20 euros from her pocket and gave me "buy something nice for your mother" she said "tell her it from your romanian girl-friend". how simple she was. i needed to go, it was 5:40. i could not leave while she was still there. she understood. she turned back walked all the way to the escalators below, looked at me one last time and left.

i miss her sometimes still. i never called her, her realities did not warrant my presence. i would go back to europe many times, her number was now owned by a guy who spoke only german. i looked for her at her old night club and rld room. she was not there. she had left, her times of sleeping for money was over. i bought a small but beautiful german china doll for my mother with christi's 20 euros. it stills stands among a multitude of trinkets in our family house.

the picture of her is from a picnic we went to. her face is obscured to protect her identity. the events (most of them above) are true, conversations are made up. some spice has been added through language.[/quote]

[QUOTE=MrLoveKumar;1614223]Had been to Stayfit spa. Only 2 girls were available. Choose one. Name starting with J. Was good. Nice friendly talk. Charged 1500 for full nude. Satisfied with service. Haven't tried the one named S which is mentioned in this forum.[/QUOTE]Hi dude!

Can you suggest a landmark near this spa because I stay close to Hennur?

Hi friends,

I have been following this forum for quite a long time. Finally decided to register and share the experiences with like minded people like you. Have a bit of experiences (good as well as bad) in Bangalore. Will be sharing soon.

Pleasure to be part of this forum.

Yesterday I also received 3 pics from the same no. ending with 179 (Mr. Rl) at [blue][Names in Code Deleted by Admin][/blue] through whatsapp. He quoted 3 k for 2 hours including A-Z services that too for 2 pops. Negotiated to check the reality and he agreed for 2.5 k. Didn't went as it was like fake to me.

Any pointers on this please.

[QUOTE=Kishor8084;1614360]Seems pic1 & pic3 are not real.[/QUOTE][u][b]EDITOR's NOTE[/b][/u]: [blue]This report was edited to [u]remove names written in code[/u]. Please do not post names written in code in the Forum. You're not foolng anyone. If the average forum member can interpret the name, then so can anyone else. Please read the Forum's Posting Guidelines for further information. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue]

[QUOTE=Summer1981;1615788]Hi all,

You guys seem like an active bunch.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]Is it okay to use my regular phone no to call or fix up appointments with SP? How do you guys manage? With apps like Truecaller and Wattsapp, get this feeling that your privacy could be severely compromised. Not sure how bad it could be.

- Its up to you, if you want to use a number exclusively for mongering, each one has a personal preference and trait, go by what is comfortable to you. Ideally everyone uses truecaller these days, either ways if you use your personal phone, your name and details are out in the open.

* Do SPs invariably shower before they meet a client? Or should I politely check before going ahead?

You mean Chicks provided by SP's (Service Providers), you can ask, there is no rule that they will. Ideally they should but we don't live in an ideal world.

* Just curious to know about the escorts that offer their services at 15 k (common published rate in escorts' websites) and upward for a 2 hour session? Are they really that high-class and superlative to demand such high rates?

True definition of escort service is not present anywhere in India, it a mask for glamorized prostitution here, hence for that rate you can get decent 3-4 fucks through a good / reliable SP. Prioritize by what you want / afford and can use. Don't go by Glam of websites.

* In FRs I often see you guys bring up DFKs. Is it really safe or should I know a few things about SPs health before getting into it?

Up to you, personal choice. No rule of safe or unsafe, even GF's can transmit hence any contact of any kind from anyone is prone to suspicion hence choose wisely.

Few Guidelines to help if you want to take them.

Learn to walk away from the deal. Don't become desperate, remember more than your need, it is also SP's need to get some money.

Learn to bargain / negotiate. You will get better at it as you age gracefully, please try.

Don't take shit from SP's. Walk away and post.

Post FR's. Good experiences will build credibility, bad ones will save money for the forum brotherhood.

Use good Condi's. Don't keep them in the pocket, never use the ones provided by the chicks or SP's (Do you remember Apollo making condoms? - Would you buy iphone equivalent or even better made by MRF?).

Stay Safe Bro. Bang Safe. Keep posting.

[QUOTE=CoolMan2110;1615881]Hi friends,

I'm new to this site.

Anyone tried here.

[URL]http://www.midnight-pleasure.com/bangalore-escort.html[/URL]

Kindly please share your feedback.[/QUOTE]Fancy and Glamorous website. Meat will be shared across I guess, in this trade, there is no / limited exclusivity hence I doubt pretty much you will get what you want, how you want.

If you traveling abroad, please utilize those, you will have a wonderful time and it is money well spent. I guess in India it is not at all worth a mention, I am quoting this from personal experience.

Alll the Best. Stay Safe Bang Safe.

[QUOTE=TheNone;1615538]Big challenges teaches you to stretch your limits. During the entire session to control tsunami I can proudly say that we finally won. It took 4 condoms who has given their life for this noble cause. I wanted to thanks bacon skewer with prawns, pork frankfurters and lone bottle of teachers to empowered us to control it.

Please resume your regular activities. Tsunami is controlled and conquered.

A reference pic for fellow mongers who was wondering about what is tsunami and how does she look like. I hope you won't soil your undies and bedsheets and god knows what.

Regards.

TheNone.[/QUOTE]Nice one Bro, What are the damages? I guess it is money well spent.

Pay by virtual credit card. It works like a charm.

[QUOTE=Hodor;1615798]These are the two experiences I had in the month of September.

1. Inde housewife.

I got her number through one of my friends. Deal was set for 1 k (I know it is seriously cheap considering the rates nowadays in Bangalore). She is a middle aged Kannadiga housewife living with two kids. She lives in a remote area far away from usual mongering regions in Bangalore and I don't think anyone in this forum has tried her. It was really difficult to get to her place even after being in constant conversation with her. Somehow after managing to get there, I was obviously disappointed looking at her. Dark skinned, fat aunty with a plump face. Well, what should I have expected for 1 k? I was really not in the mood to back off after going that far and just wanted some pussy and didn't care about looks. So got into her house. Kids were watching tv in hall. She took me into her bedroom which wasn't bad compared to some of the places I've been to but still wasn't what you would call clean. As soon as we got naked, she started CBJ and I can't rate it. (It is the only CBJ I've had till now..[/QUOTE]

So whatsapped Preethi, and she immediately responded. Chatted for a while. It seems she works in an office, so some amount of advance notice is required for her to plan things. Asker her for her pic. And she sent it through WhatsApp. She looked, dark, chubby, but with big see or the cups, and tall. Not really my type as I prefer fair, slim, petite, ladies, like most of the NE's. But her tall height got me thinking. So messaged her for her exact height, and she said its 176 cm, now I am 173 cm. I had this long time fetish of having sex with a taller woman in standing position. I have had standing position sex before, but inevitably its uncomfortable for me / her or both and we end up changing positions, or I end up lifting the lady. So I Whatsapped her and explained what I needed. Purely sex in standing position. She was very exited and was all game for it. So fixed up on a Sat morning.

She guided me to her place (which is actually a PG), but kinda independent. But you have to walk past what looks like the owners place (scary!) and other girls of the PG (but she assured me, its completely safe (maybe she is doing the owner too: P). And safe it was. Nice room, with a nice big bed and clean bathroom.

She started by undressing herself and then me. Started with a lot of tongue play. Around the face, neck. And was nibbling my ears, which I totally loved. The nibbling turned to biting and I had to stop her, lest wifey noticed the hickeys: Went on to DFK, which was OK, I've had better. Then went on to BJ, she was OK for BBBJ, but I insisted on CBJ, had even carried stawberry flavour condom, which she just went wild on. Followed an OK CBJ, Johnny was on full attention by then. So told her to stand up, against the wall. Held her with one hand and another hand on the wall and entered her in standing position. Finally I could enjoy standing, without having to worry or change positions. She was very wet already, and Johnny slid in like a hot knife through butter. After a couple of min of slow to medium intensity action, I pulled up one of her legs on my hand and went in deep. She gasped, but I could tell she was enjoying it. After about 5-6 min of this, I told her to turn around and place her hands on the wall, then entered her from behind, in standing position. Again, it was easy considering her height. I love holding the ladies hair while banging in doggy, so reached up for her hair. But her hair was not so long and she was tall too, but somehow managed to get hold of her hair. But in my excitement, I might have pulled the hair too much, because, she arched her back and reached back and turned her head and gave me an awesome DFK, while I was still pumping her. I had no chance and was about to blow my load, so pulled out, removed the condi and asked her to CIM, but she refused, so came all over her the cups. Chit-Chatted for a while, paid her and left.

Body- 5/10 (not my type, but would be sexy for some).

Face- 4/10 (again, not my type).

Attitude- 8/10

BBBJ. Yes (I did not opt) 6/10.

CIM. No

Overall- 7/10 (only because of my long term fantasy, otherwise 5 or 6).

Damage- 5.5 k

WIR. No.

Got the number of Inde Na_ncy. Called her up, and some dude picked up. When I asked for her, he hung up. Got a call back in few min, and it was her. When I told her I got this number from a friend, she again cut the phone abruptly. She messaged after a while. Asking which friend? Fellow monger had said to giver reference of me_rry, which I did. Immediately she replied back, saying. Please don't call me back. What's the deal with her guys? Maybe some senior members can help me?

The last B2B MP experience in I'Nagar was a big turn off because of the conditions of the place. The girl was ok. If the place was better I would have probably spent little more time than coming out of it in 5 minutes.

Now here is the dilemma. I don't think I want FS just yet. Want to experience B2B MP for some more time before graduating. But, it seems all MPs are of similar quality. Smelly rooms, unchanged sheets, no hot water in bathroom and so on.

I am guessing the service apartments / hotels where SPs provide ST are of better quality. Is it? If I approach a SP and negotiate for B2B only, would it be weird?

Now, given that the damage at these MPs is usually 2 k+. 5, a 3-4 k SP is not that bad an option. Please enlighten from your experiences.

P.S: I don't have PM yet. Didn't take since didn't think I will be asking for any contacts. I will tonight if you think my assumptions above are valid.

Good job bringing the price down! Pic looks nice, could be a memorable yet value for money experience!Waiting for FR.

[QUOTE=PartnerBusines;1616015]Hello friends,

Planning to take this profile today afternoon. 6 k for 2 shots.

Got it down from 10 k.

Any experience? Any suggestions?

Regards[/QUOTE]

From past 3 days I am sending msgs Amar bro.

Please check did you put me in ignore list.

so, at the risk of sounding jaded, here is another report on the book store spa.

so had some free time today and johnny was acting up so tried calling rr spa, but was told straight away that they were fully booked and had no slots for today. so then decided to try book store spa, and called up and confirmed an appointment at 2:30. was there on time, and the ne receptionist completed the formalities and assigned cyn_thia as the therapist. i looked at her and smiled, she just had a tired look on her face and started slowing walking up the stairs to the room, without even a cursory smile. i thought. this is going to be bad. so she dragged herself up to the room, opened it and curtly asked me to change and walked away. the room was dark and it irritated me that she did not come in and tell me about other stuff, like where i can keep my personal stuff and hang my clothes, etc. , which is the norm in spa which charge 2000 freaking bucks for a massage! anyway, i tried getting into the disp undie, but it was too tight. thought, fuck it, and just draped the towel and waited for her. she asked me to lie down and took off the towel and got the shock of her lifebut she didn't say anything and put the towel backi thought that was encouraging.

she started the massage, which was actually good. i tried small talk with her to get her comfortable. but she just had monosyllabic replies to everything. what i learnt. that she was 40 years old (but she looked only 25! was from nagaland, working here for the past 2 months, in bangalore for last 3 years, not married. so, came the inevitable question from her. is this your first time here? since there are enough and more reports from fellow mongers here, took a risk and told her, not first time, have been with reb_ecca before. luckily, she said rebecca is not there today. she asked me, " is reb_ecca good? i said," her massage is good, but yours is better, i can tell about the hj only later: p" she got the hint. but said. we only give professional massage here, how did she give extras? ya right, and iam the pope. i asked her does she give extras. she said no. and i thought, we'll see. i knew extras were definitely on the table when she asked how much i paid reb_ecca? i said 500. she gave a wry laugh.

the massage was actually pretty good (maybe a notch lower than the thai place), and i was enjoying it. she was hitting all the correct teasable places which gave me a hard on. when she asked me to turn over, it was all in her face. she threw a towel over it which made a tent and a smile escaped her (first one). she made lots of contact with johnny and then she said, massage is over. i said, what about extras? she looked shit scared and said. i am scared! and then dida recce outside the door for a couple of min. then came back and said, you give me 1000 ok? i said no way, only 500. either she dint hear me (she was more concerned about who was outside) or she dint care and started the hj. while the hj itself was good (she has definitely had practice and lots of it), but since she was so scared, it was hurried. i tried grabbing her boobs, but she kept pushing my hand away. finally managed to grab her ass, which were nice and shapely. tried to put my hands inside her pants and again was denied. anyway, i came after about 6-7 min. she quickly cleaned and asked me to shower. after i showered and was dressing up, she came in and was patiently waiting. i took out 500 and gave it to her. she refused to take it and said deal was for 1000. i said, there was no such deal and i always pay 500, as do my friends. she said, ok give me 800. i stuck to 500. i was not going to be the one to increase rates here. she was still refusing to take, finally i forced the money in her hands and she threw it on the massage table. i thought. screw her, i gave her the dues, if she doesn't want it, its her problem. and walked out.

massage- 7/10

hj- 6/10 (technique was good, but hurried).

damage- 2.1 k at counter + .5 for hj.

wip. not with her! maybe reb_ecca for real.