Hong Kong Club Reports

Every time my wingmen and I used the ATMs machines in Cascada, in the alley or around Tijuana bar block, our cards have been cloned or copied, and unauthorized charges in the US started to show up a few weeks later.

My cards had a few $200's cash withdrawals, also $500's purchase at a Pizza Hut. All charges were in the US. Cards companies were quick to alert us and refund the charges.

Don't let waiters walk away with your cards. Do all processing in front of you so they don't have time to clone the cards.

HK sucks. I can promise you they have and will lose more customers with their BS. Guys don't want to go to a strip club and be surrounded by men. It's just not why we go. We want female energy. Even in Brazil the guys are now asking for tips. The security when you leave is asking for tips at the termas. He does absolutely nothing but grab my receipt. I hope Brazil termas don't become like HK where it's non stop tips tips from bartenders security front desk. They think I'm a ATM.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2829319]Every time my wingmen and I used the ATMs machines in Cascada, in the alley or around Tijuana bar block, our cards have been cloned or copied, and unauthorized charges in the US started to show up a few weeks later.
[/QUOTE]LOL, this is why I don't use ATMs in Tijuana PERIOD. Have yet to ever use one in all my years going down there. If I need to I'd actually much rather quickly go back across the border and use an ATM in San Ysidro rather than taking my chances with one in Tijuana. I do use my credit card quite a bit though in Tijuana (e. G. , booking room at Cascadas, at various reputable restaurants) but have never experienced any issues with any of that.

[QUOTE=BrotherMouzone;2829388]LOL, this is why I don't use ATMs in Tijuana PERIOD. Have yet to ever use one in all my years going down there. If I need to I'd actually much rather quickly go back across the border and use an ATM in San Ysidro rather than taking my chances with one in Tijuana. I do use my credit card quite a bit though in Tijuana (e. G. , booking room at Cascadas, at various reputable restaurants) but have never experienced any issues with any of that.[/QUOTE]I ALWAYS exchange money at the HSBC ATM inside the Calimax supermarket at Constitution & Benito Juarzez. Because Schwab offers the best exchange rate and rebates ATM fees.

I have also used another bank's ATM machine once.

I pay for my room at Cascadas with the Schwab debit card when exchange rate is higher than the hotel's exchange rate. Yes they take copy of your driver's license.

No issues so far.

[QUOTE=BrotherMouzone;2829388]LOL, this is why I don't use ATMs in Tijuana PERIOD. Have yet to ever use one in all my years going down there. If I need to I'd actually much rather quickly go back across the border and use an ATM in San Ysidro rather than taking my chances with one in Tijuana. I do use my credit card quite a bit though in Tijuana (e. G. , booking room at Cascadas, at various reputable restaurants) but have never experienced any issues with any of that.[/QUOTE]Never had issues with ATMs in Tijuana at any of the banks, Banorte, HSBC, Santander, etc. Just don't use BBVA as they won't let you decline their crap conversion. Anybody in the ZN is a sucker ready to be fleeced of their dinero. The most I've been fleeced are by the policia whenever I drive into the area. Just take a Didi or Uber and save from the policia trying to fine you for various violations. Always use credit card so you can dispute things later if you don't recognize transaction.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2829360]HK sucks. I can promise you they have and will lose more customers with their BS. Guys don't want to go to a strip club and be surrounded by men. It's just not why we go. We want female energy. Even in Brazil the guys are now asking for tips. The security when you leave is asking for tips at the termas. He does absolutely nothing but grab my receipt. I hope Brazil termas don't become like HK where it's non stop tips tips from bartenders security front desk. They think I'm a ATM.[/QUOTE]HK isn't losing customers. I think the chicas probably get less Arribas, but no strip joint I've been to compares to HK. If you have been, then please let us know. They have chicas on every pole throughout the bar. I'm not sure why Tropical, Chicago, Adelitas, or any other club in Mexico doesn't do the same. They are rather tame compared to HK. Only other location with strip joint of HK magnitude is probably Thailand, but they just do a shuffle and not performance on the pole. The only downfall of HK is not being able to attract enough talent to keep guys entertained. It used to have a lot of thin natural spinners, but it seems like more overweight, bbl, operated on chicas in the club. Also if you think of their clientele, it is mostly gringos trying to escape being persecuted in USA For their sexual desires. Most don't want to travel across the world in order to find some women willing to do something strange for some change.

[QUOTE=KBToys;2829448]Never had issues with ATMs in Tijuana at any of the banks, Banorte, HSBC, Santander, etc. Just don't use BBVA as they won't let you decline their crap conversion. Anybody in the ZN is a sucker ready to be fleeced of their dinero. The most I've been fleeced are by the policia whenever I drive into the area. Just take a Didi or Uber and save from the policia trying to fine you for various violations. Always use credit card so you can dispute things later if you don't recognize transaction.[/QUOTE]I know it's been talked about before but the best thing to do with the police is to call them on their bluff, I know it's hard especially those that don't speak Spanish and just want to go. The only problem is this just encourages the police to continue harassing people especially tourists. If you are driving in Tijuana or really just visiting you might want to download a couple of different APPS the city has come up with.

Buton morado is supposed to be able to track your location and send police to help you.

Buton de Emergencia which seems to be very similar but more for those with needs of fire or paramedics.

Now personally I have not tried it and some may think getting the attention of more police will be a bad thing. I think the police just seeing that you are aware of these APPS and have them on your phone will make them less likely to continue to bug you and let you go.

Some others have talked about having the phone number of "Sindicatura" to let the police know they will be reported.

I understand that all of this seems like to much work and most just take a taxi or the shuttles to make it all easier but those that enjoy driving to the Zona shouldn't be dissuade from doing so.

One last thing about this is last weekend in Rosarito some government officials had people distributing flyers to everyone that discussed what laws the police had and didn't have and that to never pay a bribe or fine to a police officer. The article is attached, so these laws would also apply to the police in Tijuana and maybe a good thing to keep on your phone if stopped. The more knowledgeable you seem and not afraid of them the more likely they are to let you go. The second link has a better copy of the laws.

[URL]https://zetatijuana.com/2023/06/no-den-mordidas-a-policias-volantean-empresarios-en-rosarito/[/URL]

[URL]https://zetatijuana.com/2023/06/hartos-de-extorsiones-policiacas-empresarios-volantearan-en-rosarito/[/URL]

[QUOTE=KBToys;2829449]HK isn't losing customers. I think the chicas probably get less Arribas, but no strip joint I've been to compares to HK. If you have been, then please let us know. They have chicas on every pole throughout the bar. I'm not sure why Tropical, Chicago, Adelitas, or any other club in Mexico doesn't do the same. They are rather tame compared to HK. Only other location with strip joint of HK magnitude is probably Thailand, but they just do a shuffle and not performance on the pole. The only downfall of HK is not being able to attract enough talent to keep guys entertained. It used to have a lot of thin natural spinners, but it seems like more overweight, bbl, operated on chicas in the club. Also if you think of their clientele, it is mostly gringos trying to escape being persecuted in USA For their sexual desires. Most don't want to travel across the world in order to find some women willing to do something strange for some change.[/QUOTE]I agree 100% KBToys.

Re no strip joint I've been to compares to HK.

Agreed.

Re clientele. Is mostly gringos trying to escape being persecuted in USA For their sexual desires.

SO TRUE!!

Re Most don't want to travel across the world in order to find some women.

Agreed!

So we are captive to Tijuana. But not to HK.

The other clubs, especially Chicago, could invest to up their game to be more like HK.

I was talking to an HK girl I met last week via Whatsapp. She told me guys were so infatuation with her they would rent a Condo in Tijuana for her just to be able to see her when he wants. She said the last guy would spend Thursday through Sunday just partying with this dude. He also took her to Cancun. La Paz etc every 2-3 weeks. Can this be true or is she just yanking my chain. I mean I like hooking up with hot Mexican Tijuana chicks but to spend tons of cash on just one sounds insane. Ty in advance.

[QUOTE=MongerSocal;2829516]I was talking to an HK girl I met last week via Whatsapp. She told me guys were so infatuation with her they would rent a Condo in Tijuana for her just to be able to see her when he wants. She said the last guy would spend Thursday through Sunday just partying with this dude. He also took her to Cancun. La Paz etc every 2-3 weeks. Can this be true or is she just yanking my chain. I mean I like hooking up with hot Mexican Tijuana chicks but to spend tons of cash on just one sounds insane. Ty in advance.[/QUOTE]It's not just in Mexico. It's all places. Some guys just do a little too much for pussy sometimes LOL.

Every where I have traveled I have seen this shlt LOL.

I do not understand it.

[QUOTE=MongerSocal;2829516]I was talking to an HK girl I met last week via Whatsapp. She told me guys were so infatuation with her they would rent a Condo in Tijuana for her just to be able to see her when he wants. She said the last guy would spend Thursday through Sunday just partying with this dude. He also took her to Cancun. La Paz etc every 2-3 weeks. Can this be true or is she just yanking my chain. I mean I like hooking up with hot Mexican Tijuana chicks but to spend tons of cash on just one sounds insane. Ty in advance.[/QUOTE]That is not uncommon. We have a name for those guys: PLM.

[QUOTE=MongerSocal;2829516]I was talking to an HK girl I met last week via Whatsapp. She told me guys were so infatuation with her they would rent a Condo in Tijuana for her just to be able to see her when he wants. She said the last guy would spend Thursday through Sunday just partying with this dude. He also took her to Cancun. La Paz etc every 2-3 weeks. Can this be true or is she just yanking my chain. I mean I like hooking up with hot Mexican Tijuana chicks but to spend tons of cash on just one sounds insane. Ty in advance.[/QUOTE]This is quite normal. They say 1% of guys are banging all the woman who even want sex. That leaves alot married and dating guys with pitiful sex life. Woman esse tially all want Pete Davidson. Tall cute. Funny handsome. He can have a prison record and be homeless but he fits the bill. I've read many guys on here who pay for a regulars apartment. Apts in Tijuana were like Florida 15 yrs ago, basically free. But even Tijuana apt prices skyrocketed. Right now with open borders it would be tough to find a long lasting relationship with a working girl that is just gona stop banging guys just cause you pay her rent and some $. I know a escort who was mexicsn she has 2 houses. She's in Tijuana 70% of the year. She went to usa last week with asylum because she's trans. But even if she wasn't trans many Mexicans are getting in now.

[QUOTE=TomJackin;2829757]That is not uncommon. We have a name for those guys: PLM.[/QUOTE]I don't see this type of guy as a PLM, more of a sugar daddy. Guys that have money might prefer to have a girl that is a good time and pay what they want. Many guys with money set up a mistress because they don't want to be looking around for something all the time.

The PLM in my eyes are guys that give money to girls not to work and the girls have BFs or clients behind their backs. Or they constantly send money for whatever needs come up for the girls when they are just using them but the guy thinks the girl is really in love with him.

[QUOTE=Sol12;2829894]I don't see this type of guy as a PLM, more of a sugar daddy. Guys that have money might prefer to have a girl that is a good time and pay what they want. Many guys with money set up a mistress because they don't want to be looking around for something all the time.

The PLM in my eyes are guys that give money to girls not to work and the girls have BFs or clients behind their backs. Or they constantly send money for whatever needs come up for the girls when they are just using them but the guy thinks the girl is really in love with him.[/QUOTE]You nailed it.

Although every situation can be a bit different. I love getting away to Tijuana at the end of the work week. While I do pay pretty much the rent for a Tijuana GF I do wonder who is using who. While I'm just a pretty near elderly gringo not fluent in Spanish and she is not getting any younger. I look at it as a big benefit for me. I save on hotels and enjoy sleeping next to a warm body Latina.

Of course I also don't want to be that idiot paying the bills while she is boning the real Mexican BF. But this has been going on for years and I do think about her meeting someone she can actually communicate with. But at this point in life I realize it would be best for her as long as I'm not left in the dark.

[QUOTE=Sol12;2829894]I don't see this type of guy as a PLM, more of a sugar daddy. Guys that have money might prefer to have a girl that is a good time and pay what they want. Many guys with money set up a mistress because they don't want to be looking around for something all the time.

The PLM in my eyes are guys that give money to girls not to work and the girls have BFs or clients behind their backs. Or they constantly send money for whatever needs come up for the girls when they are just using them but the guy thinks the girl is really in love with him.[/QUOTE]Love and the search for is the human condition. It is natural after fucking a girl for so long that you might start developing feeling with her. But a ho is ho always. You can take the ho out of the club but you can't take the club out of the ho. Be advised!