East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=Waldeck2]Try this. Go to one of the local saunas. The girl will fuck you. Slip a 100$ US note in her bag after the deed while she goes to dispose of the condom. Get her number. Not her telephone number, just her number at the Sauna. Go back the next day, ask for her, wait if she is busy. Slip 2 100 notes in her bag. Go back the third day. Use a made up name. All of the girls will know who you are. See what happens. And you have manufactured a 'high class' girl.[/QUOTE]

How in any world is that advise helpful?

I read your last post, S., and now better understand what you are looking for. There are some high class escorts you can find online...just be sure to read reviews as many are phony. Also, you can try posting ads on Asiaexpat etc. Just be very specific (without breaking the rules of the forums). If you do it right the girls will find you.

Don't bother with saunas or BBS's...you'll never find what you are looking for there. I still do believe, however, that you might find it in bars, but it would take a lot of effort. Online is indeed your best bet. I think I have a contact for you (though I never tried her) if you want to be a g-pig.

This forum, for better or worse, is more about low cost options. Please do keep us posted on your quest as I for one think it (this forum) would benefit from information about all options.

-B-

[QUOTE=Starono]Woops! Somehow missed this post. I wish this board were real-time! I define high class as a girl I can bring to an upscale company dinner without being embarrassed: young, educated, pretty. Of course, beauty is subjective. Anyways, good info here. Thanks! I'll post updates as I clear the rounds.

My question did not say unlimited; I imposed a limit of around 300. Perhaps the scene in China is completely different from Europe, where $300 is a mere 1-2 hours for a high class escort. I defined high class above and sauna / bbs / probably KTV girls would not fit the bill. There seems to be a disconnect between what I'm looking for and what is expressed on these forums. I'm not looking for a 60 minute session every night and that's it. I'm looking for a girl I can take out to dinner, meet with colleagues, and have fun with afterwards; most importantly, I'm looking to do this without the emotional strings that come with looking for a relationship.[/QUOTE]Ok, so that's a Chinese Julia Roberts you're looking for, eh? I think that was only a movie.

[QUOTE=Starono]Woops! Somehow missed this post. I wish this board were real-time! I define high class as a girl I can bring to an upscale company dinner without being embarrassed: young, educated, pretty - of course, beauty is subjective. Anyways, good info here - thanks! I'll post updates as I clear the rounds.

My question did not say unlimited; I imposed a limit of around 300. Perhaps the scene in China is completely different from Europe, where $300 is a mere 1-2 hours for a high class escort. I defined high class above and sauna / bbs / probably KTV girls would not fit the bill. There seems to be a disconnect between what I'm looking for and what is expressed on these forums. I'm not looking for a 60 minute session every night and that's it. I'm looking for a girl I can take out to dinner, meet with colleagues, and have fun with afterwards; most importantly, I'm looking to do this without the emotional strings that come with looking for a relationship.[/QUOTE]Now I got you, you want the Pretty Woman arrangement, like in the movie. In the Beijing Forum there is some info, some Mongolians do that and Zhuren wrote a post about something similar. But again I have the feeling you know little about China and try to mirror a European or American custom to this country. I think this rarely exists here and will be outrageous expensive in relative terms. Second wifes are normally more common to serve your purpose but you do not have the time to arrange this, nor does it make sense for you. And many Chinese WGs you can take to any dinner without a problem but you really do not want to have them with you for a longer time. They may become clingy and annoying, exactly what you want to avoid.

This forum is not for cheaper options, in China 1000 RMB is outrageous expensive and as FS is available from 5 bucks upwards (40 LT) why spent 300?

FA

[QUOTE=Bonzo1]I agree with you Starono - there isn't a lot of info here on this. And also, the prejudice against BSD here is totally unwarranted and lame, IMHO. After all, aren't we here to report and get info, ie to share?[/QUOTE]Thanks mate for your friendly words.

First post here from someone evidently not knowing much about China but willing to shell out 300 US$ for LT and I am prejudiced and lame. What information is shared here that is new? There is info on expensive options but due to the crack down since October we have been careful what is published and as said the higher priced options bring you very close to people who do not want us to intermingle with their interests. Escorts are mainly a rip off in China as they target visitors. Nobody even in Shanghai needs to pay 300 US$ for LT, even more you are not guaranteed better looks and service. The first may be a bit more likely, the latter we can discuss for hours.

It is everybodys own decision how to dispose his money, but I think it is not lame to point out that this amount is not market conform here.

I think I was even trying to help and give info, certainly more than he has so far contributed.

So thanks again for your friendliness

FA

I read your posts and the replies with interest and growing perplexity Starono. Might I enquire as to why you would want to bring a hooker to meet your colleagues? Perhaps I am in the wrong industry, but it strikes me as just a tad strange.

Wouldn't you be embarrassed by the fact your colleagues, particularly if they are Chinese, would already be well aware that your 'date' is in fact a call girl?

Or are you hoping to develop some kind of sense of achievement by turning up to a function with a hot tall local girl on your arm with the thought in your mind that everyone will think you picked her up with James Bond like charm?

Sorry if I sound rude, but I just don't get your objective here.

I can understand the desire to have sex with a super hot female, although personally prefer the challenge of doing so on a budget much lower than 300 US.

The guys are pretty right when they say things don't really work the Pretty Woman way over here. It's a different and much more interesting world that can take a bit of getting used to but is an absolute blast once you get there.

Strings really only get attached when we let them, I think - be it a freebie or a paybee. It is not difficult to purchase a second sim card and phone and then ditch the sim when you want to ditch the girl. It's not like the 'emotional' trappings are going to haunt you forever.

Best of luck with your trip and your findings may just be a great new insight into options less considered in China if it all works out. Look forward to reading your report!


[QUOTE=Starono]Woops! Somehow missed this post. I wish this board were real-time! I define high class as a girl I can bring to an upscale company dinner without being embarrassed: young, educated, pretty - of course, beauty is subjective. Anyways, good info here - thanks! I'll post updates as I clear the rounds.

My question did not say unlimited; I imposed a limit of around 300. Perhaps the scene in China is completely different from Europe, where $300 is a mere 1-2 hours for a high class escort. I defined high class above and sauna / bbs / probably KTV girls would not fit the bill. There seems to be a disconnect between what I'm looking for and what is expressed on these forums. I'm not looking for a 60 minute session every night and that's it. I'm looking for a girl I can take out to dinner, meet with colleagues, and have fun with afterwards; most importantly, I'm looking to do this without the emotional strings that come with looking for a relationship.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ed Heres]Ok, so that's a Chinese Julia Roberts you're looking for, eh? I think that was only a movie.[/QUOTE]Well, what I'm looking for does exist in Hong Kong - and especially in western countries. I assume it exists in Shanghai too, and honestly, I'd be very surprised if there are 0 options; but then again, HK is different economically and culturally. I have a week and some business contacts in Shanghai I can ask. Maybe I'll be able to pull something.

The interviewing idea: I think that's gold.

[QUOTE=Comrade 2255]There are some expensive stunners listed @ [url]http://www.bodymassage.com.cn[/url]

Please report the results![/QUOTE]

Wow, judging by their homepage, stunners is not a term I'd use. Or do we need to search for the best photoshopped pic?

[QUOTE=Blacklisted]I read your posts and the replies with interest and growing perplexity Starono. Might I enquire as to why you would want to bring a hooker to meet your colleagues? Perhaps I am in the wrong industry, but it strikes me as just a tad strange. [...][/QUOTE]Oh, don't get me wrong. I won't actually parade them in public. I was just using that as an example to describe the girl I would like to be with. Maybe I'm aiming too high or looking for something that just doesn't exist in mainland China, but we'll see.

No - this is not the Shanghai Hotel that I went to.

The one I went to was behind the Hilton.

Attached is a picture - Letter B is the Shanghai Hotel.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Sound7]Randym, great report on Hotel Shanghi suana facility. Thanks for sharing.

Are these directions and map correct?.
Hotel Shanghai
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"Positive: Staff always helpful" - booking.com ... "Larger rooms are much more pricey.)" - tripadvisor.com ... "Overall, staff are very nice and helpful" - tripadvisor.com[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Starono]Woops! Somehow missed this post. I wish this board were real-time! I define high class as a girl I can bring to an upscale company dinner without being embarrassed: young, educated, pretty - of course, beauty is subjective. Anyways, good info here - thanks! I'll post updates as I clear the rounds.
[QUOTE]Unfortunally what you seek does not exist in this country. Remember that supply will only be there if there is a demand for it. And as said by others before, in this country second wives (long time commitment ánd very expensive) provide the service you are looking for. Unofficial bigamy (without the actual marriage) still runs rampant in this country and you will find that many high ranking officials and business men have a 20-25 year old 2nd wife (and 3rd and 4th.)

Any Chinese business contact will instantly know if a girl you bring is a BBS/KTV/WG.

What I would propose is a 50/50 solution. Ask your business contacts to arrange an english speaking female companion for during dinner. They will go out of their way to make sure you will have someone sitting next to you that speaks english and can strike an intelligent conversation with you. This girl/woman will be most likelly from their company or family, if you make it clear you are single, they will most likelly even arrange a "marriage-candidate". During dinner you can see if this develops into something. If not, after dinner wish eachother goodnight and go for one of the other available options for a "overnight girl", if it does. Albeit very unlikelly. Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Starono]Oh, don't get me wrong. I won't actually parade them in public. I was just using that as an example to describe the girl I would like to be with. Maybe I'm aiming too high or looking for something that just doesn't exist in mainland China, but we'll see.[/QUOTE]

Starono,

The type of girls you describe do exist and can be found all over China, especially in major cities and centers of industrial wealth. However, the chances of you meeting one is slim to none unless you are very well connected at a very high level. And, they are very, very expensive. Most likely, they cannot speak any English, or pretend that they don't, because they don't have to. Why? Because they have hundreds of locals and overseas Chinese chasing them.

These girls can be found at high end KTV but you would never see them in a line-up. They are private stock for VIPs from government and very rich businessmen. Sitting fees start at 1,000 RMB and LT can be 10,000 RMB and up, if they decide, at their discretion, to go with you. They play hard to get and normally will not go with a punter on their first meeting no matter how much they are offered.

I've had the opportunity to see some of these girls on a few occasions and, although they were cordial to me, they wanted absolutely nothing to do with me beyond that.

These girls could be taken to any business dinner in China without question or any repercussions.

Just my POV.

OAH

Jing An Hotel/Behind Sheraton Hotel/ A Shanghi Hotel w/SPA Treatments.

Ok

[QUOTE=Randym1991]No - this is not the Shanghai Hotel that I went to.

The one I went to was behind the Hilton.

Attached is a picture - Letter B is the Shanghai Hotel.

Good luck![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Starono,

The type of girls you describe do exist and can be found all over China, especially in major cities and centers of industrial wealth. However, the chances of you meeting one is slim to none unless you are very well connected at a very high level. And, they are very, very expensive. Most likely, they cannot speak any English, or pretend that they don't, because they don't have to. Why? Because they have hundreds of locals and overseas Chinese chasing them. [. ][/QUOTE]Precisely the information I'm looking for. Thanks! Although it is a little disappointing that I may not yet be at the social class to woo them. Perhaps I'll test the limits of my colleagues and see if they hit that crust yet. But regardless, I'm going to give this a shot even if it fails horribly.

[QUOTE=Blacklisted]Or do we need to search for the best photoshopped pic?[/QUOTE]No! Say it ain't so!

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso]Thanks mate for your friendly words.

First post here from someone evidently not knowing much about China but willing to shell out 300 US$ for LT and I am prejudiced and lame. What information is shared here that is new? There is info on expensive options but due to the crack down since October we have been careful what is published and as said the higher priced options bring you very close to people who do not want us to intermingle with their interests. Escorts are mainly a rip off in China as they target visitors. Nobody even in Shanghai needs to pay 300 US$ for LT, even more you are not guaranteed better looks and service. The first may be a bit more likely, the latter we can discuss for hours.

It is everybodys own decision how to dispose his money, but I think it is not lame to point out that this amount is not market conform here.

I think I was even trying to help and give info, certainly more than he has so far contributed.

So thanks again for your friendliness

FA[/QUOTE]

Your sarcasm and words toward him were not particularly friendly in the first place, and moreover I was not even talking to you. I was commenting on the reality that questions or comments about higher price options are often met with opprobrium here. This in neither appropriate nor beneficial.

It is a big market and there are a variety of options and price points, as well as a variety of budgets. Sharing information, which often starts with people asking questions, is the point of ISG. It is to the benefit of at least some members, and of no harm to the rest, to discuss higher price options than the norm from time to time.