Jakarta

[QUOTE=DevSagar;2931452]Honestly, my experience's at this place have been one of my best ones in my mongering journey. I was crystal clear cut and specific with my requirements openly stated to Mamasan what I was looking for and my message was conveyed to the chick in her native language. She delivered and made it a memorable and fulfilling experience. I do not know why you did not convey your needs to the Mamasan before finalizing the chick. I am damn sure if you would have, certainly it would not have happened what happened. I am truly amazed to see your FR of negative experience.

Regards.[/QUOTE]Forgive me for asking but what are your requirements when you talk to the mamasa? Do you ask for bare, anal etc? I was under the impression you can't ask for that as it's not allowed.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2931528]This is how Jakarta is different or at least emporium. The Mamasan knows you are paying good money and would want good service so if you ask them in advance it always helps and they will go the extra mile to make sure you are satisfied. I said not all girls will provide all services. Some are happy to provide BBFS and some don't, those who don't may offer anal. It's upto you what you want, don't be an expert I say just check with mama before you select and take her to room. Trust me Jakarta is different to thailand and mongers need to realise this. Don't let ego come in your way. Cheers.[/QUOTE]I think you got me mixed up with loveithere69.

My first and foremost requirement is DFK; in fact, that's a need for me because without it I simply cannot perform. I have rejected many beautiful chicks including models during my travels, SA chicks and a lot of spa girls where I reside. My belief is that DFK is a first stage of intimacy. DFK, BJ without condom; I never do bareback as I am scared and never will. No anal as well as I am not a big fan of it. I convey this where ever and whomsoever I fuck. Basically, without DFK, it is not a GFE experience.

Regards.

[QUOTE=Delbo1;2931629]Forgive me for asking but what are your requirements when you talk to the mamasa? Do you ask for bare, anal etc? I was under the impression you can't ask for that as it's not allowed.[/QUOTE]

Sorry mate, I replied to you already but forgot one line to add. I also convey to the mamasan that I do not need a petite, small, tiny or a slim girl, I like reasonably figured girls, big boobs and I was not disappointed with what was recommended to me. Post the recommendation, the girl was brought over to me, message conveyed to her and I did see the chicks nodding her head and off we went. So, no reason to drop her when I saw her saying yes to my desires and physically seeing her in front of me. How I wish Delhi had a better connectivity with Jakarta, Damn.

[QUOTE=Delbo1;2931629]Forgive me for asking but what are your requirements when you talk to the mamasa? Do you ask for bare, anal etc? I was under the impression you can't ask for that as it's not allowed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vendelo;2931577]if a girl declines BBFS, will she provide bareback anal?[/QUOTE]I certainly hope not.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;2931577]I will be visiting Jakarta soon. I've mongered all over. I presume anal is rare in Jakarta. Am I correct? Also, if a girl declines BBFS, will she provide bareback anal?[/QUOTE]Yes, it is very rare. 90% of the girls in Jakarta will decline Anal.
They will not even allow you to touch the Anus.

Note: This is a general statement based on my own experience.

~BKK

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2931481]If you go to a high end spa you expect a real professional massage for everyone that walks through the door. The same good service for a high end brothel. The same for a high end restaurant you expect plates and metal utensils and not styro foam plates and plastic utensils. But SuperLove and BKKguru you believe TempStories bad service is because he was a newbie? Unreal.

[/QUOTE]I will give you an analogy. Upscale Restaurants add a mandatory Tip of 18 or 20% to your bill.
As a Customer you expect A+ or excellent service. But many times, you do not get the service you expected or deserved.

Same with this high-end Spa. You are paying Top Dollar. However, there is NO guarantee you will get the best service. This can happen anywhere including Thailand, Phillipines, Venezuela, Peru and Colombia. By the way, I have been to ALL of these countries. But I digress.

You also missed the point in my last post. He used his instincts to select the girl and this is always hit or miss. If he would have consulted David (Papasan), it would have been a different outcome.

~BKK

Hey community!

Sitting now on my balcony on the 20th floor, enjoying the amazing view of the sunrise over Jakarta with a cup of coffee, I realized that I am living not only the best years of my life but also a life that millions of men around the world cannot afford for one reason or another and can only dream about. For me, it is also not 100% possible to devote a lot of time to our hobby, so I really appreciate those short periods when I have the complete freedom to do what I want. This usually happens when my family and I are apart for a couple of months each year. The rest of the time, when we are together, the hobby is less accessible, but let's say, still doable in a "soft," safer mode. However, many men, even with such desires and freedom, don't pursue it due to moral principles or because they are too indecisive to take the first step toward trying our hobby. Thus, they miss out on a vast world of pleasure, freedom, and joy, with a relatively small community of participants in which we have chosen to be a part.

These thoughts visited me over a morning cup of coffee at the end of my trip to Jakarta, and I realized that I need to become a more active member of the community and share my experience too. In Southeast Asia, this is already the fourth country where I practice this hobby, and it comes close to first place in my ranking, primarily in terms of the quality of the girls, and second in terms of the price / quality ratio.

I flew here from Bangkok two weeks ago, having read on the forum about the huge selection of available women in Classic and Travel hotels.

Week 1:

I decided to start with the Classic Hotel since it was the first one I read about on the forum about Jakarta. The first time it was a bit uncomfortable going there, expecting that many mamasans would not let you look around calmly and choose your "pearl. " Having arrived on a Grab bike for 10 k (less than 1 dollar, hehe, for a trip of 3 km) at 6 pm on Sunday, I asked the security how to get into the club, and they immediately directed me to the 2nd floor, where loud music was coming from. Before entering the hall, they gave you a bracelet at the counter. There were about 7 mothers standing right outside the door, who, yes, attacked, but after a polite "thank you," I stepped aside and none grabbed my hands, as they wrote on the forum. Only one mamasan followed me, pointed to a table to sit at, and sat near me. I ordered a cola to spend some time and exchanged a few words with her. Then she asked - "Want a girl?" - I said, give me 10 minutes to decide. After that, she continued to sit with me, but I was not against it.

There were about 5-10 tables occupied in the hall, most of which were occupied by groups of locals, smoking like locomotives. Behind the rest sat lonely tramps. I expected to see them in the company of ladies, but no, everyone was sitting alone. Around the perimeter of the hall, there were sofas on which girls were clustered; I think there were more than 120 of them in all. Of course, I was shocked by the number, for the first time I saw such a number of women in evening dresses, each of which could end up on my arm in 5 minutes. Although most of them were not my type. I like thin, tall, and small-breasted girls, this atmosphere wildly excited me, and I decided not to linger here any longer and get to action.

I told his mamasan what I cherished, "show me your girls. " It was a little funny when she took out a laser and started shining it at the opposite end of the hall, at the sofa on which about 15 girls were sitting, who immediately perked up, came up and lined up in a line. Of the entire line, there were about 5 that were quite to my taste, and 2 real gems that more than met my criteria, one of which I chose as she seemed more welcoming. I gave mamasan 400 k rupees, and welcomed a girl who, as it turned out, did not speak a word of English, but this was not a problem for me.

She took me by the hand and led me across the hall to the stairs. Funny fact, walking through the hall with a bunch of girls, I had the feeling that I was walking with freshly caught prey hehe, and everyone seemed to envy me, although in fact, everyone was looking and envying her that she had a client, and the rest continued to be bored on the sofas. Going downstairs, the staff showed the room, and then extended their hand and said, "tip" This puzzled me a little and upset me, but I gave the 10 k that were in my pocket, it was clear that they were unhappy, but I didn't care.

I want to describe this time in detail so that you understand all the emotions that I felt in the room. I closed the door, the girl took off her shoes, sat down on the bed and that was it. This, guys, is where all the magic ends. For the next 40 minutes, she did not show any initiative at all, did not make any movements on her part. Okay, I thought, I think she's just started and is shy, reminded me of my first girl in school. Despite the fact that she did not react in any way to my hugs and caresses, she was wearing a very sexy dress, and to my taste, which turned me on very much. Slowly undressing her, I love to undress the girl myself, play with her body in her underwear and then slowly take it off. I gestured to her towards the shower, she shook her head. I didn't go either, since I washed myself in the room half an hour ago.

After that, I put her on the bed, spread her legs and caressed her for 10 minutes. All this time she didn't even touch me. I was still in shorts, I put her hand on my penis, which was noticeably protruding, in the hope that she would understand that she needed to start caressing me, take off my shorts, etc. But no, she just left her hand there, without any movement. I even began to think that she was some kind of weak-minded or something like that. If she were not so beautiful, I would immediately turn around and go for another one, but I just couldn't leave her pussy, which looked like just a strip on the body, without the slightest hint of protruding labia.

So, I took the phone and wrote in the translator, saying, let's do something, otherwise, you will be left without a tip at all. In response, she wrote "condom?" I nodded my head affirmatively, the first time I saw a working girl ask such questions herself. She gave me a condom, which I had to put on myself (the first time in my career myself). At this time, she lubricated herself and lay on her back with her legs spread. Okay, let's get started. She was very tight inside, which couldn't help but please me, and I could barely restrain myself from cumming after a week of abstinence. I thought that since she was so passive and asked about the condom, it would be possible to negotiate with her and dump my week's supply into her mouth, which I really love. I took out and motioned for her to go doggy style, she obeyed. I started fucking her, and she didn't move at all, although this position is very suitable for two people to move. Well, ok, I thought, I'll enjoy it this way.

And so, admiring her ass, the most epic of all fucked up began. A persistent, strong smell began to reach me, and it was not the smell of her pussy, which I had completely examined before, but the smell of working girl shit. I spread her buns and saw that everything was fucking brown there. And she * should have understood this before and refused to take a shower before the act! In general, it's hard to express my emotions in words, but I still decided to finish quickly, which took 15 seconds for me (I'm good at controlling this process after taking half of the pill of the Super Kamagra bought in BKK). Without saying a word, I went into the shower, quickly got dressed, and left, leaving her there alone. Went out into the hall, walked around it in search of my mamasan to scold her for the whole situation, but did not see her there. After sitting at the table for 10 minutes, I still didn't see her. I went to the cashier, paid about 30 k for entry and a coke, and left.

The first impression of Jakarta was a complete failure. After all this, I was depressed all week, I didn't want to go to such places anymore and was haunted by the thought that the best sex is sex with wife.

So, after losing a week of freedom, I decided to go to Emporium, which became one of the best experiences of my career, and made me go there every fucking day, during my second week in Jakarta.

To be continued.

Honestly I can't say if its rare or not. I can say I got it at classic & emporium. And monger friend, it was just analogy. I mean there may be some girls out there who are more comfortable and prefer anal to BBFS. Mind you I know a fair no of girls in middle east who will go anal and would prefer to keep their pussies covered for marriage. Better to PM me, cheers.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;2931577]I will be visiting Jakarta soon. I've mongered all over. I presume anal is rare in Jakarta. Am I correct? Also, if a girl declines BBFS, will she provide bareback anal?[/QUOTE]

Bro, don't go around asking mama / mami as to who gives anal or BBFS, not on and you might just upset them. Alternatively, just ask who is more 'open minded', for example I told my guy I want a top girl with a great attitude and service levels must be a sure shot 9. And I leave it to him (in this case) to choose for me. So if she doesn't perform I can come back to him and complain. I remember, only that one time I selected and he just smiled back and let me be. Her attitude and performance was just ordinary in room and when I came back and told him, his reply 'what can I do mr you selected her, I knew she is not your type'. Conclusion, for me. At high end places leave it with mamis.

[QUOTE=Delbo1;2931626]Not at all don't get me wrong I don't have ego I accept when I'm wrong, I'm trying to help it didn't make sense to ask the papasan, I'm definitely not an expert and always keen to learn.

I see your point now about asking what girl he would recommend. I wasn't aware you could ask the papasan which ones do anal, without condom etc I thought that was frowned upon.
I think you got me mixed up with replying to superlove69 post.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BKKguru;2931676]Yes, it is very rare. 90% of the girls in Jakarta will decline Anal.
They will not even allow you to touch the Anus.

Note: This is a general statement based on my own experience.

~BKK[/QUOTE]Japanese girls are similarThey don't even like rimming.

[QUOTE=DevSagar;2931650]Sorry mate, I replied to you already but forgot one line to add. I also convey to the mamasan that I do not need a petite, small, tiny or a slim girl, I like reasonably figured girls, big boobs and I was not disappointed with what was recommended to me. Post the recommendation, the girl was brought over to me, message conveyed to her and I did see the chicks nodding her head and off we went. So, no reason to drop her when I saw her saying yes to my desires and physically seeing her in front of me. How I wish Delhi had a better connectivity with Jakarta, Damn.[/QUOTE]How did you communicate with the mamasan and girl? Via google translate on your phone? And how did you say / write "DFK"?

Reading through the last pages it seems that Emporium is getting some good traction these days.

I was wondering why the Spa scene in general seems to be a bit under the radar on this forum, since in principle there are plenty of options from low end (where "spa" / "massage" may be an overstatement) to medium and upscale locations which usually offer a wide range of services / packages with some spas specialising in specific service offerings (e. G. Double Bjs, CIM / BJ only, "Fire and Ice", "honey", .).

Often there is a low entry fee to the facilities (if the location offers them), maybe around IDR 200 k which would be waived if you proceed with a massage package. Those depend on location, but often again there are base packages (which usually include a handjob to finish) and most locations would also have some kind of "all in" package which would then include BJ and sex. Instead of the all in package it can also be negotiated directly with the lady instead which may save you a few bucks, but I usually don't bother. If my memory servces me well, then last year the all in package at the place I was ended up something like 800-850 k for 60-90 min in the room.

Having left Jakarta a decade ago, I am not that close to the current scene, but as far as I know there are still plenty of options around (which to be fair should all be similar to what you get also in Classic Spa etc.).

I know that information is fairly generic and may not be extremely helpful, but was just surprised to see (at least it feels like it) so little communication around that part of the market.

Best regards.

[QUOTE=Thommy84;2931763]I was wondering why the Spa scene in general seems to be a bit under the radar on this forum [/QUOTE]I agree that the spa scene in the past year plus has not been reported on much. My first few visits to Jakarta I had to go the south and hit up a few spas out of convenience. Good experiences and around the price point you mention. The biggest drawback is that the five spots I have been to, the girls are chosen via photo on a device. Compare that to the many bars and clubs with a choice of between a dozens to well over a hundred girls right in front of you. So yeah, massage reports do seem vanilla to the other flavors Jakarta offers. Maybe if I lived there I would visit the spas but do not want to waste a punt by choosing a girl on a phone during the short time I am there.

I spend 4 months in Bali and 2 months in Jakarta.

I went to Kota Indah, Classic and often tried my luck on MiChat.

By far, Jakarta is the best spot for mongering I've been to.

Kota Indah is a bit dirty, I went to Royal quite often at the beginning, but the girls were not that good and the management is terrible as well.

I read about Classic here and for a good month I went there almost every day, to the extent that I even took the cutest mamasan back home (who turned out to be married. Outch!

I like the quantity of girls and among the 100 or 120 girls, there is always a handful of girls that I really like. Sometimes you have to wait until they come back from their previous booking. I would recommend to go around 5 or 6 pm, later than that is going to become more uncomfortable: more smoke, louder & shittier music, as well as fewer girls.

I always paid 365 k for the girl, 5 k for the club. And if the girl did a good service I always gave a tip as well. Overall, best experience I've had in Jakarta!