Angeles City

[QUOTE=Fastpiston;1827760]I see this all the time and feel sorry for the old foreigners who get married to bar girls.[/QUOTE]Why feel sorry for them? With all the stories floating around they should know better. And if you would not marry a prostitute back home then why would you go overseas where the territory and culture and language is less familiar to you and do it? I guess they think the same as many on this board: Well they only do it for food, mother's medicine, to buy a new cow, to pay for school, or to fix the roof. The truth is that there are millions of other people who need these same things with no money to get them, but they do not go out and prostitute themselves.

[QUOTE=JingleBells99;1827686]

As you put it, the travel is not straight forward and a bit more pricey compared to Thailand.[/QUOTE]Huh? How is Angeles more pricey and more complicated than Thailand?

Two examples from 3 months ago where I took one of the hotter gogo dancers in both Thailand and Philippines. Not comparing a Soi 6 girl with a top gogo; and not comparing a girl pulled from a Perimeter bar in AC vs. A top gogo. Top gogo vs top gogo.

I am in Pattaya and find one of the hotter girls in Alcatraz, she is an agency girl so Bar fine was 1500. I then had to negotiate with her how much she wants for ST vs. LT. She starts with 4000 and I negotiate her down to 3000.

So total cost for overnight is- 4500 baht /36.2= $124.30.

A month later I am in AC and take one of the featured dancers from Atlantis. Her Bar fine is 3000 and of course since this is AC that is all-inclusive and no need to waste time negotiating how long she will stay.

So total cost for overnight is 3000 pesos /46.7 = $64.23.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1827623].......................Now on to Malaysian Indians in angeles.

Most are of indian origins but have lived for generations in Malaysia, single males mainly travel over on cheap flights from kuala lumpur just for a short weekend, I have been in bars when Malaysian indians have been there too, they seem friendly, speak excellent english, are willing to buy drinks both for themselves and the girls, most pinay bargirls seem to accept them and will treat them just the same as other westerners.[/QUOTE]This is what I alluded to in a previous of mine. Malaysian Indians are different. Proves my friends saying: "We are a product of our environment". Different countries of origin, different environment (behavior etc).

But I did come across the Indian 'peasant' variety in expensive / exclusive Arena Show Place, Cebu City. Quite funny, turned the corner to go to toilet and there they were, outside the toilet, about 7 of them in a huddle, discussing their modus operandi. Most probably deciding who would approach the girl, how much would be offered, and who of the seven would have sex first with her, whilst the others waited for their turn to have sex with the same girl, for the one 'bulk buy' price, LOL.

Another time came across a distinguished looking Indian chap, who had bailed up the top lady at the same expensive place, Arena, a 9 to some (myself) , an eleven to others. He had corralled her out of view of everyone, negotiating. Don't know what happened there.

The Indians are coming to Phils, no doubt about that. Whether they earn the very bad reputation they have in Thailand, time will only tell.

In the mean time its 'puki' time, until we Caucasians are swamped by all manner of Nationalities (eg Chinese Mongers yet to invade in numbers). Survival. Figure out ways to survive lads, I have, LOL.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1827787]Why feel sorry for them? With all the stories floating around they should know better. And if you would not marry a prostitute back home then why would you go overseas where the territory and culture and language is less familiar to you and do it? I guess they think the same as many on this board: Well they only do it for food, mother's medicine, to buy a new cow, to pay for school, or to fix the roof. The truth is that there are millions of other people who need these same things with no money to get them, but they do not go out and prostitute themselves.[/QUOTE]Mr E,have to totally agree with you again and I have wrote about this some months ago.

Prostitutes the world over are of low morales and in it for the big, easy, money.

Girls with high morales would not sell their pussy to guys old enough to be her grandfather full stop.

Talk to most middle class teen age girls in the phills and they want the same things as teenage girls the world over, go to college, go to university, get a decent job, find love with her own kind and of her own age group, etc etc.

The last though on their wish list would be to be selling their pussy to strangers every night.

[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1827807]Huh? How is Angeles more pricey and more complicated than Thailand?

Two examples from 3 months ago where I took one of the hotter gogo dancers in both Thailand and Philippines. Not comparing a Soi 6 girl with a top gogo; and not comparing a girl pulled from a Perimeter bar in AC vs. A top gogo. Top gogo vs top gogo.

I am in Pattaya and find one of the hotter girls in Alcatraz, she is an agency girl so Bar fine was 1500. I then had to negotiate with her how much she wants for ST vs. LT. She starts with 4000 and I negotiate her down to 3000.

So total cost for overnight is- 4500 baht /36.2= $124.30.

A month later I am in AC and take one of the featured dancers from Atlantis. Her Bar fine is 3000 and of course since this is AC that is all-inclusive and no need to waste time negotiating how long she will stay.

So total cost for overnight is 3000 pesos /46.7 = $64.23.[/QUOTE]I think you will find that jinglebells99 was refering to the cost of travelling to angeles, being more expensive than travelling to thailand, not the price of pussy.

Now on to pussy.

Comparing thai gogo girls to the girls in atlantis is black from white imho.

There is not 1 single girl employed in atlantis that would be employed to dance in a top thai gogo.

There is also not 1 atlantis girl that would be employed to work in the top makati manila gogo,thats why girls in makati charge 3000p barfine and 3,900p short time, thats a whopping 145 us dollars total,

Want to compare atlantis girls to thai girls then there are many girls on soi 6 that are slimmer and more attractive without any of the princess syndrome of the atlantis girl at half the price.

you also conveniently forgot to mention that like for like hotel prices are 50% cheaper in thailand,food is a fraction of the price in thailand,most air tickets are much cheaper to thailand than phills,thai taxis are half price, thailand is a 1st world country as apposed to a 3rd world country,i could go on for pages.

many of my friends that live in phills full time tell me how cheap beer is in angeles at $2 and how expensive thai beer is at $1 more,my answer to that is yes your correct,but for the $2 angeles beer i get to see girls at best in swimming costumes and at worst dancing in street clothes,for my $3 thai beer i get to see fully naked women on stage,again black from white,

not knocking the phills,its just not thailand and never will be,my advice is enjoy both destinations,pinay pussy is sweet just like thai pussy.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1827904]I think you will find that jinglebells99 was refering to the cost of travelling to angeles, being more expensive than travelling to thailand, not the price of pussy.

Now on to pussy.

Comparing thai agency girls to the girls in atlantis is black from white.

There is not 1 single girl employed in atlantis that would be employed to dance in a top thai gogo.

Want to compare atlantis girls to thai girls then there are many girls on soi 6 that are slimmer and more attractive without any of the princess syndrome of the atlantis girl at half the price.

Want a top looking thai gogo girl then get them on their time off, in the discos after work, in the malls before work at half the price they quote at work and zero barfine too.

you also conveniently forgot to mention that like for like hotel prices are 50% cheaper in thailand,food is fraction of the price of thailand,most air tickets are much cheaper to thailand than phills,thai taxis are half price, thailand is a 1st world country as apposed to a dangerous shit hole,etc etc,i could go on for pages.

not knocking the phills,its just not thailand and never will be,my advice is enjoy both destinations,pinay pussy is sweet just like thai pussy.[/QUOTE]I disagree with almost everything you said. But its just my opinion and you have yours. You will notice how I don't just come out and call your comments STUPID or whatever it was on some of your other responses to others guys and their opinions on other matters. Why? Because I don't think your comments are stupid and even if I did I wouldn't say that. I just disagree with them.

1-I think one of the top girls at Atlantis can stack up against a top girl in Pattaya period. You don't agree that's fine. Princess attitude? I didn't see that in the featured dancer I took in October, not at all. Not to say if I took her friend maybe I would have gotten it but the girl I took didn't have any of that.

2- I know their are Soi 6 girls that could work in Atlantis, and that once you go below the top 10% of the Filipinos you are really going downhill in quality. But again within two weeks I took a high priced dancer from Pattaya and one from AC and that's what I was comparing. Not the overall quality of the 300 girls in Atlantis vs the overall quality of 100 girls in angel witch.

3-yes I know there is the chance to get a top Thai gogo after hours at Insomnia or on their day off, just the same as I took AC girls on their days off. But again not the point of my comparison.

4- I didn't "conveniently" forget to mention anything. I wasn't commenting on airfare, hotel prices, food or any of that crap because AGAIN I was only comparing the prices and ease of top gogo vs. Top gogo.

5- No where did I say that Thailand wasn't a good place or I didn't like it. In fact when I come to Asia I generally spend about 75% of my time there and the rest in PI. Again my post was what readers? Just a comparison of top gogo in Pattaya costs vs. Top gogo in AC costs.

[QUOTE=Streetlooker;1827566]Thou I and a few others just listed at least 25 different things to do in the daytime in AC. I am going to concede to your declaration and declare you correct. The is Nothing to do in Angeles city in the daytime. Why are you budget mongering in AC anyways? You can get the best pussy on the planet in Las Vegas New York Dubai Macau etc etc and there is quality things to do in the daytime also. I,m a poor SOB with very little money that' why I monger in AC over those places more bang for my buck. Its also why I play golf on public courses and not pebble beach and I stay in the motel 6 and not the Ritz Carlton.[/QUOTE]My earlier response was somewhat in jest. I agree with you that there are things to do in AC and not to everyone's likings.

I have been here a week now and after a walk last night thru WS, the sights of old pooriengers and there drunken behaviors can get rather depressing. A little over a week in AC is enough for me. I then travel to Cebu or elsewhere for a break. Usually I meet up with former AC girls in the other cities. Or they will make an introduction for me.

[QUOTE=Fastpiston;1827760]AC locals tell me the majority of bar girls have AC Filipino boyfriends. Security guards, trike drivers, hotel staff. This is logical as the girls are seen as an easy source of $$$ and free sex. Even bar girls married to foreigners in AC have younger Filipinos 'on the side' who get free money & sex. I see this all the time and feel sorry for the old foreigners who get married to bar girls.[/QUOTE]FP, you are correct to believe the words of the locals.

Truth can be a damn ***** at times though.

Feel ashamed to say this but I too have indulged in the delights of pinays that are on western union support from abroad,

as they say,you can take the girl out of the bar but not the bar out of the girl lol

So long story short go to Thailand first and then go to Phil?

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1827904]I think you will find that jinglebells99 was refering to the cost of travelling to angeles, being more expensive than travelling to thailand, not the price of pussy.

Now on to pussy.

Comparing thai gogo girls to the girls in atlantis is black from white imho.

There is not 1 single girl employed in atlantis that would be employed to dance in a top thai gogo.

There is also not 1 atlantis girl that would be employed to work in the top makati manila gogo,thats why girls in makati charge 3000p barfine and 3,900p short time, thats a whopping 145 us dollars total,

Want to compare atlantis girls to thai girls then there are many girls on soi 6 that are slimmer and more attractive without any of the princess syndrome of the atlantis girl at half the price.

you also conveniently forgot to mention that like for like hotel prices are 50% cheaper in thailand,food is a fraction of the price in thailand,most air tickets are much cheaper to thailand than phills,thai taxis are half price, thailand is a 1st world country as apposed to a 3rd world country,i could go on for pages.

many of my friends that live in phills full time tell me how cheap beer is in angeles at $2 and how expensive thai beer is at $1 more,my answer to that is yes your correct,but for the $2 angeles beer i get to see girls at best in swimming costumes and at worst dancing in street clothes,for my $3 thai beer i get to see fully naked women on stage,again black from white,

not knocking the phills,its just not thailand and never will be,my advice is enjoy both destinations,pinay pussy is sweet just like thai pussy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1827943]Feel ashamed to say this but I too have indulged in the delights of pinays that are on western union support from abroad,[/QUOTE]We all have am sure NE time or another maybe unknowingly LOL.

Why ashamed as this is the way of life there.

I was with one when her daddyko called, another when daddyko (aka moneyko) did a Skype chat, other times she was doing a cam show for him while I watched then shagged her after. Happened many times and many also had pinoys on the side.

One AC bar girl had 4 European / American monkeyko to whom she always said "you are the only one etc" and her husband would drop her off at times to the guy's hotel. She was an excellent 3 holes as well. She was earning around 100-125 k pesos a moth from her collective moneykos before other tips from AC punters etc.

Is more fun in the Philippines as they say LOL.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1827933]My earlier response was somewhat in jest. I agree with you that there are things to do in AC and not to everyone's likings.

I have been here a week now and after a walk last night thru WS, the sights of old pooriengers and there drunken behaviors can get rather depressing. A little over a week in AC is enough for me. I then travel to Cebu or elsewhere for a break. Usually I meet up with former AC girls in the other cities. Or they will make an introduction for me.[/QUOTE]Actually one of the best things to do in AC is watch the stupid drunks stumble past Phillie's or Kokomos barely able to walk with little brown honeyko in tow trying there best to hold them up. Pure Entertainment at its finest Of course I also like the show at big dogs Nana also a great drunken show spot. Sometimes I think there is good money to be made rolling these drunk fuckers.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1827943]FP, you are correct to believe the words of the locals.

Truth can be a damn ***** at times though.

Feel ashamed to say this but I too have indulged in the delights of pinays that are on western union support from abroad,

as they say,you can take the girl out of the bar but not the bar out of the girl lol[/QUOTE]Greatest power trip I can get is banging the shit out of some other dudes sponsored girlfriend. I fucking love when they talk to them on the phone naked in my bed 5 minutes after we just got busy. Sometimes I like to talk in the back ground see what happens.

[QUOTE=Streetlooker;1828005]Greatest power trip I can get is banging the shit out of some other dudes sponsored girlfriend. I fucking love when they talk to them on the phone naked in my bed 5 minutes after we just got busy. Sometimes I like to talk in the back ground see what happens.[/QUOTE]One of the most hilarious times I had was banging a Filipino while she was talking to her American fiancé on the phone. He was actually serenading her while I was pumping her doggie style. I had to bury my face in a pillow to muffle my laughter. She even had to mute the phone as she was roaring with laughter too. Ah, good times.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1827943]FP, you are correct to believe the words of the locals.

Truth can be a damn ***** at times though.

Feel ashamed to say this but I too have indulged in the delights of pinays that are on western union support from abroad,

as they say,you can take the girl out of the bar but not the bar out of the girl lol[/QUOTE]No need to feel ashamed about it, the girls are very skilled scammers. Hopefully those who read this forum will understand this and save themselves a lot of time, money and heart ache. Hopefully those who are about to sign a legal Filipino document of marriage to a bar girl think carefully. Then stop and THINK yet again.

[QUOTE=Streetlooker;1828001] Sometimes I think there is good money to be made rolling these drunk fuckers.[/QUOTE]Actually, some of the bar girls make good money by doing that. According to one of my regulars anyway. She's a FL who's bar hopping with her customers frequently and she notices quite often that girls go through the pockets of drunk customers.