Kyiv

[QUOTE=Visal;2180275]
I went to Scarlet. It is better than Rio for sure.
[/QUOTE]Why better?

[QUOTE=Ashurbanipal;2180349]Bad news, according to the local newspaper [URL]https://lb.ua/society/2018/05/14/397591_kievskoe_eskortagentstvo_gia.html[/URL] GIA is under a police investigation.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the link Ashurbanipal. And wow, just my luck, wanted to use Gia and this happens.

[QUOTE=Curious12;2180455]Thanks for the link Ashurbanipal. And wow, just my luck, wanted to use Gia and this happens.[/QUOTE]What do the veterans here recommend? I'll be in Kiev for one night later this month and had hoped to set up something discreet and reliable. Is Rio / Scarlette a viable option? This Mamba thing seems like a ton of work.

[QUOTE=Riina;2180408]Why better?[/QUOTE]The pole dancers are real good here and pay attention to you. While in Rio it is just too crowded, also the dancers are there just for the sake of it. Scarlet is way better than Rio, although their owner is same.

[QUOTE=CJohnson49;2180509]What do the veterans here recommend? I'll be in Kiev for one night later this month and had hoped to set up something discreet and reliable. Is Rio / Scarlette a viable option? This Mamba thing seems like a ton of work.[/QUOTE]In my opinion, for one night Rio / Scarlette is a pretty good option. Same owner, same system, same girls working at both clubs, they just rotate. You see the girl before you decide if you want to take her with you. I have not been at Scarlette yet but a lot of people recommend it, Rio is just better for me because I usually stay within the walking distance of the club.

This is really disappointing. I hope it's temporary. I'm the kind of hobbyist that prepares meticulously for every session. I only monger early afternoon when my energy levels are at a peak. I need my testosterone to be elevated to a set standard degree of aggressive horn dog. Gia was good for this. The moment it was all there for me physically and mentally, a girl was at my apartment. I can't do strip club girls at night. It's not the same.

I was just wondering if anyone has visited Caribbean Club and what the scene is like. Based on the reviews it sounds like it might be a place to pickup semi-pros.

A full report is forthcoming, as I am still "on assignment", but I figured this is an easy answer that might help the novices. The girls know exactly what they are doing, and how to work foreign men into a feeding frenzy. Elegant and sexy, like your secretary, but this one actually likes you and smiles at you every time you look at her. Foreign fools lose their common sense and behave as if they were in a regular bar, trying to pick up girls way outside their league. They flirt awkwardly (but oddly enough, the girls respond! Buy them drinks, and ask them to dance. They are pros, that is the price you have to pay to have sex with non-pros, "for fee". My apartment was 200 metres away, so I ended up there, and it was great to watch the girls. The cover was 400 and the drinks were watered down and overprices (I did not have any).

It is the place to pick up hard core pros, not semi-pros.

Expect to fork out 200 to 250 USD. Oddly, your hottest 23 year old fantasy girl, in a little dress and high heels, asks the same as a MILF that looks like your neighbour's wife after picking up her kids from swimming practice. Whatever happened to supply and demand? Well, foreigners out of their minds, that is what happened.

[QUOTE=TouringT;2181162]I was just wondering if anyone has visited Caribbean Club and what the scene is like. Based on the reviews it sounds like it might be a place to pickup semi-pros.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TouringT;2181162]I was just wondering if anyone has visited Caribbean Club and what the scene is like. Based on the reviews it sounds like it might be a place to pickup semi-pros.[/QUOTE]I don't know about semi pros but there are always girls available. Look for single ladies standing or sitting alone. Sometimes there are two of them sitting together. If you are unsure ask them if they want a drink they will let you know the deal pretty quick. A lot of vultures so don't be too nice too quick. Last summer bought a girl a drink and then her friend wanted one then they wanted sushi. Only scored once from there but I normally have a date before I go out for the night. Last summer lucked out there late on a slow night (Tuesday) and negotiated $100 for a cutie who turned out to be a nympho and gave me an amazing session. I assume most girls there will ask for $150-$200 or more.

[QUOTE=Rog123;2181354] negotiated $100 for a cutie who turned out to be a nympho and gave me an amazing session. I assume most girls there will ask for $150-$200 or more.[/QUOTE]Reminder to all: please specify if per hour or per session of several hours or overnight or whatever. Many of us are only interested in longer sessions. $200 for 4 hours is a bargain for a top-tier girl. $200/ hour is expensive in Kiev.

My condolences to the girls at Gia in this time of difficulty. Managers need to make sure to pay off the police properly next time instead of pocketing the entire 60% house percentage for themselves. If the managers were paying off the police properly, then my condolences to them as well.

[QUOTE=Kozerog;2181576]Reminder to all: please specify if per hour or per session of several hours or overnight or whatever. Many of us are only interested in longer sessions. $200 for 4 hours is a bargain for a top-tier girl. $200/ hour is expensive in Kiev.

My condolences to the girls at Gia in this time of difficulty. Managers need to make sure to pay off the police properly next time instead of pocketing the entire 60% house percentage for themselves. If the managers were paying off the police properly, then my condolences to them as well.[/QUOTE]My bad I think she stayed 3+ hours.

[QUOTE=Kozerog;2181576]
My condolences to the girls at Gia in this time of difficulty. Managers need to make sure to pay off the police properly next time instead of pocketing the entire 60% house percentage for themselves. If the managers were paying off the police properly, then my condolences to them as well.[/QUOTE]I'll make a wild speculation as to why the crackdown now. Visa free Europe opened the door to plugging the girls into the West. Gia probably saw that money as their own. Maybe management forgot who helped get them to where they are.

[QUOTE=Riina;2181787]I'll make a wild speculation as to why the crackdown now. Visa free Europe opened the door to plugging the girls into the West. Gia probably saw that money as their own. Maybe management forgot who helped get them to where they are.[/QUOTE]Do you mean GIA might have made more in the last year through easier travel, leading to longer multiple days engagements, and concealed the revenue increase from protection?

Someone did not like their cash flow accounting and distribution principles.

This is really disappointing. Can someone recommend escort agency or individuals with real photos and good girls. Price doesn't matter. Will be in Kiev at CL final for 1 night only, and afraid there won't be chance to visit strip like Rio or alike. I want to taste Ukrainian girl during the day before the match.

Many thanks in advance!

I know, posting this Thread and some here will write again I do promotion for Rio. Of course I do because for 7 years I have tried everything here in Kiev and at the end I end up at Rio.

I arrived in Kiev a couple of dyas ago and like always I do my pre work on Mamba and VK. But there is no response anymore as it used to be. Most of them are VIPs as well, so I can't write them (by the way, is it worth to buy VIP? I have to mention that I only write to the most beautiful girls. Haha. One girl wrote back and she answerd that she is a Trans! Hahaha. Unbelivable, she or he looks really great. Same story on VK and here in addition they almost only speak Russian.

Arriving here I checked out webpages like relax, etc. Tried one nice one with certified pictures. Again an ugly one appeared, not the one from the pictures. Always the same! GIA is too expensive and to be honest, the girls on the photos are pretty much photoshopped.

Picking up girls on the street, cafes or restaurants is very difficult as it takes too long. In addition most of them don't speak English. Going to clubs like Skybar, DFleur or Buddha Bar is too expensive as those are semi pros.

So, what to do if you want a "8-10" for not too much money? I go to Rio. Its not like it used to be. Many of the girls are chubby or 4-6. But they have around 40-70 girls on a Night so I always found at least one 8-10! Like on Wednesday! Gosh, her face is so beautiful and the body perfect. She speaks very good English, so I took her to my Hotel at 11:00 pm. You can pay USD 300 (for 3 hours = bad deal as they want to go back to club early) or you pay USD 400 or 350 Euro for the entire Night. Well, she left at 07:00 am but only both of us were extremely tired and I prefer to sleep alone. So for me it comes up to 8 hours which is USD 50/ Hour! But for 8-10 who speak very good English and in bed. Wow - she was breathtaking! No details here but she has some special technics I have not very often seen I had girls from Rio before and they stayed 10-12 Hours which is USD 40 or 30/ Hour! So what are some people talk here all the time that Rio is overpriced? I can't understand.

I attached one picture from an unknown girl just that you see what is a 10 for me. Haha.