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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1280417]Since we are on the topic of chatting up women for sex, I got these from girls last night. Some fun times and some very daring girls.
I got one girl to invite me to her place within 4 minutes of camming.
You got to love Thailand[/QUOTE]Chatting up girls or sitting at home beating off to web cam pictures all night;)
[QUOTE=Bowerboy;1280502]Chatting up girls or sitting at home beating off to web cam pictures all night;)[/QUOTE]Same old Nic Frenchy of old. Nothing useful to say apart from his usual acid queen comments. I don't think I have ever seen a useful peice of information posted by you on this forum. Just the usual holier than thou stuff while you sit at home beating off to web cam pictures and posting ENDLESS numbers of meaning less posts on here :)
Holy shit!
Things are finally starting to get interesting around here!
Let's hear more, gentlemen. I can't believe you are so far apart in your thinking, but I guess what works for one might not work for another yet the result might be the same.
Amazing!
[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1280436]I think the TRUE key to success in online dating is to be patient (obviously that only really works if you live here).
A German guy I know taught me this and I consider him to be the supreme master of online dating.
It is definitely true that you can laid on the first date but if you play the long game you will, within about 4 to 6 weeks become absolutely inundated with girls, literally one every day is very achievable.
His advice to me was to never aim for sex on the first date and to completely delete that thought from your mind. His approach was to build a massive portfolio of women that had become curious about him and that he would aim to sleep with on the second date after some sms back and forth after first meeting.
This guy had spreadsheets to keep track. He even had predesignated meeting points where he could view the meeting point from a location where he couldn't be seen and if the girl didn't look like her pictures he would just leave.
Hope this helps a bit[/QUOTE][QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1280487]Honestly? If I were to write a book on online dating, what you quoted above from your friend would be on my list of things Not to do.
Huge portfolio? Spreadsheet? Rely on Pictures and hide like a 15 year old to see who the girl is? Not for me. That is a total waste of time.
You need to research properly, talk only with the girls YOU are interested in, Always CAM before any meeting to avoid surprises and always bring the conversation to Naughty stuff (yes, there is a way to bring it up as not to offend the lady). With all that, you get laid on the first date. Hell, I never meet a girl in a public place, she comes to my room on the first date.
Spreadsheets. Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha now I have heard it all[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1280501]Wrong. Totally wrong.
The amount of time needed to cam is extremely time consuming.
Nic I think you are one of those fools that have the worst of all worlds. Spending your time chasing hookers online![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1280487]You need to research properly, talk only with the girls YOU are interested in, Always CAM before any meeting to avoid surprises and always bring the conversation to Naughty stuff (yes, there is a way to bring it up as not to offend the lady). With all that, you get laid on the first date. Hell, I never meet a girl in a public place, she comes to my room on the first date.
L[/QUOTE]This technique will see your conversion rate drop dramatically. It works but the long game technique is for the true professionals who properly understand the Thai's and understand the rules of conversion.
Your loss.
[QUOTE=Bowerboy;1280503]Same old Nic Frenchy of old. Nothing useful to say apart from his usual acid queen comments. I don't think I have ever seen a useful peice of information posted by you on this forum. Just the usual holier than thou stuff while you sit at home beating off to web cam pictures and posting ENDLESS numbers of meaning less posts on here :)[/QUOTE][url]Aaawww[/url] Did I strike a nerve boy? No need to get all worked up by yourself, just makes me smile is all. If you would know me, you'd know post count don't mean shit, and if I did not anything useful then put me on "Ignore" so you won't have to see me.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1280512]Holy shit!
Things are finally starting to get interesting around here!
Let's hear more, gentlemen. I can't believe you are so far apart in your thinking, but I guess what works for one might not work for another yet the result might be the same.
Amazing![/QUOTE]Hahaha. Its true though that the technique Nic F is talking about can work but it does DRAMATICALLY reduce your chances. It is the exact same technique I used before my friend enlightened me to the correct way.
In the first technique you will spend hours online chatting and camming (which Nc seems to spend his life doing) before you get a live one. In the long game it will take about 4 to 6 weeks to build to critical mass at which point you will have an INSANE amount of pussy.
Once I discovered the second technique it was like putting turbo boosters on online dating...it was like going from Kindergarten to University (no pun intended).
Seriously ask yourself how many girls there are online that will cam, come to your home and fuck you on the first date (here or anyhwere in the world). Yes for sure they exist but they are few and far between.
Now ask yourself how many girls would come for a coffee with a polite businessman that has shown an interest with them. And if you had the right attitude and demeanor then how many of those could you then "convert"
Its two totally different techniques. One is amateurish and wouldn't get you any better results than anywhere else in the world. The second is the pro approach that fully leverages the intricacies of the Thai culture and mindset.
[QUOTE=Bowerboy;1280514]This technique will see your conversion rate drop dramatically. It works but the long game technique is for the true professionals who properly understand the Thai's and understand the rules of conversion.your loss.[/QUOTE]There is a high unemployment rate worldwide and it is very true one has to find new jobs, be creative, invent something. But if we have to transform dating on line into a sort of "profession" to get freebies or nearly freebies (nothing's free, we all know that) , oh well. I prefer to stick to the rule "pay them to leave". I don't dispute it is nicer not to have an hardcore professional hooker, all business oriented, time watcher, whose only mission to make you come is that once you are done with that, she is also done with you. I agree enjoy some time together with a girl on a semi-date, having a dinner or few drinks is valuable too. But, men, spreadsheets, profiling, record and all that, I leave it to Langley Virginia.
[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1280514]This technique will see your conversion rate drop dramatically. It works but the long game technique is for the true professionals who properly understand the Thai's and understand the rules of conversion.
Your loss.[/QUOTE]Do you even know what conversion rate is? Or you need a spreadsheet? Conversion? What is this some kind of game? Who's got the bigger conversion has the bigger dick? How old are you 5?
Have you even done some internet dating? Or you are just swallowing all of what your friend tells you and post it here?
In my opinion, it's not about conversion at all, I'm just happy to meet good looking women for sex. Simple as that, no numbers, statistics. I leave this to the kids.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1280522]Do you even know what conversion rate is? Or you need a spreadsheet? Conversion? What is this some kind of game? Who's got the bigger conversion has the bigger dick? How old are you 5?
Have you even done some internet dating? Or you are just swallowing all of what your friend tells you and post it here?
In my opinion, it's not about conversion at all, I'm just happy to meet good looking women for sex. Simple as that, no numbers, statistics. I leave this to the kids.[/QUOTE]Nic don't blame me that you are still applying Western style methods In Thailand. Its a shame you have been unable to understand the culture in Thailand and leverage your time here to it's full potential
[QUOTE=Bowerboy;1280524]Nic don't blame me that you are still applying Western style methods In Thailand. Its a shame you have been unable to understand the culture in Thailand and leverage your time here to it's full potential[/QUOTE]Actually, it's quite the Opposite, I use a THAI site, all written in THAI where young THAI people meet for a good time.
Matter of fact, Met a lovely girl last night, we started chatting via MSN at 22:35 and by 22:39 she gave me her address and number.
You see, I use Tagged, Camfrog, TLL for the long con, but there are a few THAI sites where girls (mostly 20 24) are really bored and want to meet guys, but you need to know how to read and write Thai
THAI Pickup website. Works wonders
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1280528]THAI Pickup website. Works wonders[/QUOTE]Big deal. Another of your silly screen shots that mean nothing.
More meaningless drivel to add to your 3, 600 other posts of holier than thou nonsense
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1280512]Holy shit!
Things are finally starting to get interesting around here!
Let's hear more, gentlemen. I can't believe you are so far apart in your thinking, but I guess what works for one might not work for another yet the result might be the same.
Amazing![/QUOTE]I think it would be better to move the conversation to GENERAL section or probably create another forum to discuss as it would apply to how or not to work your way upto Non Pros! On this sub forum probably more of us are interested to read about new places in Bangkok or reviews on existing with discoveries made by fellow mongers!
Not another sub forum, please.
Just as with any activity, there are many ways to skin a cat. Both methods would work, it depends how much structure you want to have and how serious you want to be. I couldn't be bothered with doing spreadsheets either.
Obstacles to dating good Thai girls:
They work ALOT. Most work 6 days a week and not only will you be competing against other dudes, you'll be competing for their spare time, which they'll often want to spend with their friends and family or they'll simply be too tired to go out.
Many not speak good Engrish! I've met a few hot live ones and their English was terrible and it became too awkward and frustrating. So learn your thai guy! Haha.
The better looking girls get tons of messages on these sites. I saw my Gik's mailbox on her Tagged account and there was maybe 30 messages in one day. Probably more. She simply deleted all of them. You want to stand out, you better be quite a compelling character.
MANY, especially the smoking hot party girls you see at RCA / Siam Square / Thong lo have NO intention of meeting falang dudes! You might get a nibble here and there, its not out of the realm of possibility, but they're generally bored or prefer to meet Thai dudes.
Some have no intention of finding a boyfriend on these sites and only want to improve their Engrish. Perhaps you could lure one of them into the friendly confines of your house, but more often than not, it's just a dead end.
Some good girls not really good girls! If her schedule is wide open, chances are she's not such a good girl!
It takes time and effort to get quality girls. Sure any Joe Blow or overweight English teacher can get a 35+ year old with horrible stretch marks. 3 kids, a previous Thai husband who did nothing but beat her and drink whiskey all day, and saggy tits to make a quick rendevous. Not much demand for them!
Thai girls are generally shy, especially if they haven't been around too many falang. I was working on one gal from Thai Friendly, a 26 year old cute thai / Chinese mix, goes to RCA often, while she's interested to hook up, she's somewhat of an airhead, and very shy to meet.
Girls that are too eager to meet right away are desperate and almost never hot. No girl worth her salt will meet right away.