When you treat your vagina like a trash can it starts smelling like one.
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When you treat your vagina like a trash can it starts smelling like one.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;2834270]Yes, I have. Many times. But one has to stop treating the girl like a piece of meat, and start treating them like a human being. If you pay attention and listen you can learn a lot about a different culture from hookers. Sure, it takes a bit more effort. IMO it's worth it.
While I'm on the subject, I can't believe how many posters are criticizing you for taking a bar girl on "vacation. " First, it's nobody's business but yours. Second, you'll never learn anything of interest in a bar. Once you get them out of the bar environment for a few days you may be able to learn things and gain insights. Otherwise, why travel? Stay home and watch pr0 n.[/QUOTE]
Relax... You're acting as if all my posts have been exclusively about using and abusing working girls lmao. I'm simply highlighting that there's an exchange. I get what I want, she gets what she wants. Anything benefits beyond that is extra, which would be welcome.
A girl is welcome to talk about anything she wants and I'll happily converse to the best of my ability barring any restrictions due to a language barrier.
A girl is also welcome to tell me what she is or isn't comfortable with in the bedroom, I'd never pressure her into something she's not comfortable with.
This goes for being inside the club & anywhere outside.
My point was simply that its more rare to find a girl who can engage in stimulating conversation than not, but stimulating conversation is also not my priority in this hobby, merely a bonus if it occurs.
My priority being emptying my nuts.. i'd assume like most mongers.
But i agree with you about the travelling part... while i enjoy very much Hong Kong and how fun it can be... its nice to see the sunlight once in a while lol and just relax... normal life is already stressful enough, i don't have the energy or patience to stress myself out further when mongering
[QUOTE=KBToys;2834378]The beauty I see about Mexico and Thailand is that you meet some trying to get themselves and their families out of their challenging economic situations. It is opposite compared to the ones you'll find in USA, Dubai, Europe where they are looking for their next luxury trip or luxury clothing item. You can meet some that are genuine and authentic and show you their country. They are your translator, lover, and friend when times are good. The general consensus from mongers are pay, enjoy, and move to the next. I agree with that concept, but you don't get to experience the country without the help of a local. Main thing is to have fun, enjoy life, and stay safe![/QUOTE]To be honest, in this day & age. I'll respect a chica doing this kind of work to support their kids / family over a superficial tiktok monkey in the western world any day. Not to say there aren't good girls left. But its quite exhausting to have to dig through all the trash to find them. Especially in cities like LA, Miami, NY, etc.
[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2834450]
Bottom line, no, in my opinion, it would make no sense to bring a girl on a long, expensive trip when you're only interest is in banging her silly. But if you enjoy her company, trust her, and agree on the financials, I say go for it! As always, people on this board are myopic. Their experiences and desires are the only correct answer.
And before anyone flames me, these were not expensive trips. Typically, I'll pay travel expenses, I. E. Flight, hotel and most meals. And that usually covers it. Here's a secret. Most of these "poor, uneducated country girls", as many have called them, love to travel. And they are very thankful.[/QUOTE]Just depends on the girl, no? This particular chica wasn't really a great conversation partner beyond day to day topics. But again, I'm at fault as well due to my spanish not being fluent.
However, what I can appreciate was her energy. Super calm and chill. Which is what I need when I'm going on a 'vacation' to relax and reset. Hence, I'd consider taking her again if I just wanted a super relaxing trip with 0 drama and was busting at the seams with jizz.
Let me say a few things.
Ok I see the point of those of you who have had good experiences taking working girls on vacation. They sound like good experiences.
But I don't see the point of saying "to each his own; leave me alone. " The point of a discussion board is to discuss. Look at how lively this discussion is. It's good to turn over and examine an issue like this.
Despite the stories with good outcomes, I still think it's a huge risk. Yes these girls are human and often have lives and interests outside of the clubs. Some might be interesting and have good stories. But it's playing with fire. A vacation is a captive audience. You can't change your mind very easily and you don't really know these girls. A crazy spell, a mental illness, a boyfriend or pimp who checks up constantly, anything. It can happen with civ girls too obviously. But you play your odds. A working girl is just more likely to have drama that spills into your own life and follows you home.
Funny story.
I had an HK girl send me a message last week asking me to visit her in Tijuana. She said one of her favoritos bought her a plane ticket from her home town to Tijuana. I guess she planned to be in Tijuana for a week before going on a trip with this favorito to Guadalajara. I headed down and spend 2 night with her at Quartz Hotel and had some great sessions. Funny thing is, the entire time I was with her, she had an incredible amount of clients scheduling time with her before she left for Guadalajara. All the while she's telling the favorito that she is waiting alone in her hotel for him to fly in from SF. Got to give it to these girls, they know how to capitalize but also a lesson to remind us all not to fall for these girls. It's all business fellas!
[QUOTE=NeverOnce;2834734]Funny story.
I had an HK girl send me a message last week asking me to visit her in Tijuana. She said one of her favoritos bought her a plane ticket from her home town to Tijuana. I guess she planned to be in Tijuana for a week before going on a trip with this favorito to Guadalajara. I headed down and spend 2 night with her at Quartz Hotel and had some great sessions. Funny thing is, the entire time I was with her, she had an incredible amount of clients scheduling time with her before she left for Guadalajara. All the while she's telling the favorito that she is waiting alone in her hotel for him to fly in from SF. Got to give it to these girls, they know how to capitalize but also a lesson to remind us all not to fall for these girls. It's all business fellas![/QUOTE]It's just your turn are words to live by.
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2834691]Let me say a few things.
Ok I see the point of those of you who have had good experiences taking working girls on vacation. They sound like good experiences.
But I don't see the point of saying "to each his own; leave me alone. " The point of a discussion board is to discuss. Look at how lively this discussion is. It's good to turn over and examine an issue like this.
Despite the stories with good outcomes, I still think it's a huge risk. Yes these girls are human and often have lives and interests outside of the clubs. Some might be interesting and have good stories. But it's playing with fire. A vacation is a captive audience. You can't change your mind very easily and you don't really know these girls. A crazy spell, a mental illness, a boyfriend or pimp who checks up constantly, anything. It can happen with civ girls too obviously. But you play your odds. A working girl is just more likely to have drama that spills into your own life and follows you home.[/QUOTE]You call out some legit risks. I've had good experiences with taking working girls on vacations. Let's first start with cost. Working girls or civvies, I'm pretty old school in that I cover all expenses aside from any personal shopping she wants to do. I make a good living and unless she does too, a big part of my enjoyment is giving a girl an experience she could not afford on her own. Also, girls who have traveled very little and therefore are less worldly tend to appreciate and be more grateful for being with you at a cool destination. In that vein, I avoid taking chicas who expect payment. She's going with me because she wants to and that alone mitigates a lot of the risk of taking a working girl on vacation. Come to think of it, the only time a vacation went sideways with a chica involved a civvie.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp;2834502]You make way too much sense. People will get even more confused now.
In all seriousness though some guys fall hook, line, and sinker no matter where the pussy comes from. You CANNOT reason with guys like this. They can be the most successful person with a laundry list of degrees but when it comes to women and common sense they fall apart.
You have to let them experience the negatives first hand. There is NO other way they will learn.[/QUOTE]With one exception, my vacations were with girls that I'd consider friends with benefits. Taking an attractive girl on a vacation doesn't mean you've fallen for a girl. At least in my case, it simply means I enjoy her company and the sex. Foreign concept to some, I suppose. It's kind of laughable, honestly. Only here is the norm considered paying for and bargaining over 30 minute encounters. There's alot people are missing.
[QUOTE=Phazze93;2834568]Just depends on the girl, no? This particular chica wasn't really a great conversation partner beyond day to day topics. But again, I'm at fault as well due to my spanish not being fluent.
However, what I can appreciate was her energy. Super calm and chill. Which is what I need when I'm going on a 'vacation' to relax and reset. Hence, I'd consider taking her again if I just wanted a super relaxing trip with 0 drama and was busting at the seams with jizz.[/QUOTE]100% it's got to be the right girl. Many will see it as a way to get rich. So the right girl, and more importantly, clear expectations. The one semi-bad experience I had was due to a miscommunication. The girl expected that I wouldn't mess around with any other girls. It was just a bit awkward but it all worked out. Lesson learned. Now, everything is discussed up front.
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2834691]Let me say a few things.
Ok I see the point of those of you who have had good experiences taking working girls on vacation. They sound like good experiences.
But I don't see the point of saying "to each his own; leave me alone. " The point of a discussion board is to discuss. Look at how lively this discussion is. It's good to turn over and examine an issue like this.
Despite the stories with good outcomes, I still think it's a huge risk. Yes these girls are human and often have lives and interests outside of the clubs. Some might be interesting and have good stories. But it's playing with fire. A vacation is a captive audience. You can't change your mind very easily and you don't really know these girls. A crazy spell, a mental illness, a boyfriend or pimp who checks up constantly, anything. It can happen with civ girls too obviously. But you play your odds. A working girl is just more likely to have drama that spills into your own life and follows you home.[/QUOTE]Very good points. I'm searching my mental notes. LOL I've never taken a girl that I haven't seen and known for quite a while. I generally do longer dates while mongering. I don't live near any of these playgrounds. But I stay in touch with these girls. There are a lot of liars but you can weed them out easily with minimal effort.
But you are right. The risks shouldn't be minimized. It's not something to be done with girls you just met.
[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2834691]
But I don't see the point of saying "to each his own; leave me alone. " The point of a discussion board is to discuss. Look at how lively this discussion is. It's good to turn over and examine an issue like this.
Despite the stories with good outcomes, I still think it's a huge risk. A working girl is just more likely to have drama that spills into your own life and follows you home.[/QUOTE]Agree 100% - this forum is to exchange experiences, learn from each other and share points of view.
Also agree taking a working gal on a vacation is too big a risk for most of us.
Even in the poorest slums of the world, only the lowliest, most disgusting prostitutes have stinky pussies Few guys want to touch them. They command the lowest prices, like beggars begging for food.
HK is supposed to be an upscale club for gentlemen but way too many of its women have serious hygiene and health problems. Any restaurants or service businesses smelling that bad would have been shut down quickly. But HK continues pushing diseases. Guys are poking their dicks into cans of worm, but some think that's just normal. May be normal to lowlifes but not to normal, healthy, upright people.
HK has to coach these girls in hygiene and health requirements. Caballero can shut HK down for not checking health cards, not monitoring health of its workers, potentially spreading diseases, as a source of health risks.
Must be a hot girl to have all those guys lined up for sessions. Putas are always working on their phones to line up guys. They are not playing with friends.
Lots of guys seem starved for love and affection, look for the sincerest love from Tijuana putas besides just sex. Putas play them like yoyos with lies and manipulations. The girls have unemployed BFs to please and needy kids to feed. They will do whatever it takes to make oney.
But if they can have moments of love and care, even fake ones, from hot girls without losing all their net worth, it's still worth it to them compared to alternatives like nasty divorces with nasty, bitchy wives and their horny, greedy attorneys. Attorneys will provide fake sympathy and emotional support to divorcing wives, get love and affection, screw them for free, while digging out all the wealth they can from guys. Then the court will screw guys to give up half their assets, pay alimony and child support for years.
To older guys with money, it's a good deal to pay couple hundred dollars for love, affection and hot sex with sweet, young girls every week or month with no long term commitments and consequences.
Yep. It's all about money. The slick operators get all the sex and money; stupid ones lose all their wealth and get no sex.
Hi folks,
Hope you guys have been well. I fondly remember reading many of your commentary; Captain, SeebeeJoe come to mind.
It's been a few years since my last trip and my work schedule is finally allowing me to attempt a daytime trip.
I hope it's not too much of an ask, to tag along some of the experienced folks here.
I've always done drive-through visits and I'd be happy to be the designated driver.
Does anyone plan to visit during daytime?
It's always a pleasure and sometimes amusing to hear about everyone's visits. Be safe everyone.
Adam.