Jakarta

OK no worries. I also avoid the girls with photos from Dubai or on yachts etc and always prefer the cute student types (in Europe too, not just Asia). I may also try Tinder and see what's available, or the Malls as you say. Have fun in Jakarta.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;2934703]So, I decided not to use SA. Girls look expensive. A few Europeans (why would I go to Jakarta to fuck a Rusky? Also, I don't like meeting girls that have pics from trips to Sydney, Singapore, Dubai, Paris, KL, etc.

My plan is visiting malls during the day and EMP and Classic in the evening. Will provide a report.

I arrive at CGK, 1:20 pm on Friday. I estimate I'll arrive at Luminor at 5.[/QUOTE]

Most girls had never experienced this before and some went ecstatic. I remember that one time a girl actually didn't allow me to stop and take my tongue off, after a while I was gasping for breathe. But it had its rewards too, she allowed bb anal and asked me not to share this with her friends. Once you go back (ass) you don't come back LOL!

[QUOTE=OldFogey;2935265]I'm not that frequent a monger in Indo, but of the 20 or so Indo girls that I've had, there were only 2-3 that did not let me kiss or lick their anus. All the others were perfectly comfortable in letting me do what I wanted. There were some who were even quite turned on by it and kept moving their hips up and down on my tongue while I tongue fucked their assholes. If you're into it, you should knock on the door anyway. You don't have anything to lose.[/QUOTE]

I have banged 6 chicks in Emporium on my 2 trips so far. There was a report by a fellow traveler that a minimum tip of 200 K is mandatory to the chick. I was not aware of it as even on my this trip; I have been paying 200 K willingly so far without knowing this rule as I was mighty delighted with the chicks performance in the room.

Now, the chick that I banged today was greedy; ordered a corona despite me telling her No that neither I drink nor I smoke. She wanted to order fags also but did not, still went ahead with beer. The bill came to me and I had a polite discussion with the Papasan that I was not happy with the service as well. My 3 points raised were; the first one that you did not inform me of giving me a 1.4 M chick. I did not ask and he did not tell. Don't know, whose mistake it is. In his defense, he said I chose the best chick for you as per your need. I told him you should have informed me about the price point. I gave the chick 100 K as tip and she demanded more. I could not understand as we had a communication problem due to the language. My 2nd point was I am not happy with chicks service in room and I pay tip as per my choice and not as her matter of right. Then he informed me that the management changed the rule one month ago that it is mandatory. I said WTF. He said last time when you were here it was your wish but now it isn't. I called the chick down to the reception and gave her another 100 K. My third point was I told her that I do not drink or smoke and dissuaded as her as well but when I came out of shower post the swimming pool session she was holding a bottle of corona. She carried it with her to the room and drank it after our 90 minute session was over while I was having my shower. I conveyed all of this to Papasan and again the same excuse that she does not understand English language; she has been working there since a year. Offered me a 3 sum too in the room which I declined. So, overall an expense of 1.8 K today with an a polite argument at the end to just kind of be a spoiler of my mood. It is not about the money which has bugged me but as a matter of principle being a customer I should be informed first. I have made my displeasure known to the Papasan today.

I have had my share of wonderful and a few disappointing experiences here; picked chick from Bats and CJs, banged a chick from tinder, repeated my last trip chick, repeated a chick of this trip as well and 2 wow experience's at Emporium except today. My lips and tongue are hurting but still thirsty as I have done so much of DFK. My dick is angry at me and is expecting me to stop and let it rest for a while but it will happen when I am back in my hometown in a few days. It has been a learning experience.

Regards.

[QUOTE=Zippos;2935139]I'm not sure where does this confusion of timing originated, as far as I remember, 1 girl 1 hour, 2 girls 90 minutes. It's always has been like that and I don't expect it to be different when I'm there next month. This timing structure is pretty standard thought not just Jakarta but right across the country. Yes, some places will let you add 30-45 min for 40-80 k but that's optional when booked for 90 min to a longer session but not in classic.

Sure, the phone will ring as a wake up call / reminder to get ready to vacate the room but other than that, no one is going to break in to kick you out and if you decide to pump until the last minute. You just need to shower quickly and leave. There are countless of times girls has answered the phone out of breath while I'm pumping her and would get back in to the action.

If you feel awkward / guilty / uncomfortable while exiting the room, give that fugly room attendant 50 k, she will overjoyed over the moon.[/QUOTE]Well, I will bow to your experience and apologise for what is probably my error then. I don't think I asked the mamasan (Cha-Cha, which I kind of liked) if two girls at Classic gave more time, but instead for some reason just assumed it did not. Probably this was due to two girls costing just 150,000 more than one girl, while two hours instead of one hour costs 700,000. So it doesn't really make any sense that paying 150,000 more will give you both an extra half hour and an extra girl, while paying 350,000 more gives you just one more hour. I mean, wtf?

When the phone then started to ring after one hour, I just took that as confirmation. At that time I was already showered and dressed anyway, as I assumed time was running out and I'm not going to fuck them again in whatever few minutes are left. Had I known there were half an hour left, I might have played it differently.

[QUOTE=Sychip1;2935219]Just to add my experience on tinder in Jakarta, I managed to get 3 freebies so it's definitely pretty good for that in Jakarta. You do have to have some kind of game obviously but they're really liberal & like directness. I was going to have a 4th but I fell asleep when the girl was coming round (it was like 130 am in my defence). I was only there for 8 days.

But it's also a strange dynamic where if you meet them for dinner, choose a place which is at least somewhat presentable then the cost of that could be pretty close to getting 1 girl from Classic Hotel where that is guaranteed and obviously with the date far from it. So you have to weigh up your options but one things for sure, you will definitely be satisfied 1 way or the other. Which is a far cry from what I can say about even Bangkok these days with either tinder or the other options which are quite a lot more than the ones in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]LOL. I never meet them at any fancy, or even presentable dinner, unless I've already banged them enough times to have started to like them.

The girl I mentioned that did not come back with me I met for coffee and cake, while the hijab girl I met for swimming in the pool of my hotel, after telling here there were changing rooms by the pool so she did not have to go to my room to change. She had earlier in the conversation said was not going to come to my hotel while we were trying to figure out what coffee shop to meet at during the three hours she had left before she had to leave for work. After we'd been in / around the pool for almost an hour I suggested she might want to try the non-alcohol soda (Singha lemon soda) I had brought with me from Thailand, which was in my room.

[QUOTE=Sychip1;2935219]
But it's also a strange dynamic where if you meet them for dinner, choose a place which is at least somewhat presentable then the cost of that could be pretty close to getting 1 girl from Classic Hotel where that is guaranteed and obviously with the date far from it. So you have to weigh up your options but one things for sure, you will definitely be satisfied 1 way or the other. Which is a far cry from what I can say about even Bangkok these days with either tinder or the other options which are quite a lot more than the ones in Jakarta.[/QUOTE]And just to add: at least to me there's a world of difference in banging a girl because she wants me to bang her, and banging a girl because I pay her to let me bang her. Girls that want to meet at some fancy restaurant for the first date I have fortunately rarely experienced, and I would just label them as gold diggers and suggest we meet at the cheapest noddle stand I can think of instead.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;2935138]I have the tinder app but never used it. Was the Tinder girl a freebie or did you agree on a price ahead of time? And why were you somewhat disappointed with her looks?[/QUOTE]I don't think I said I were disappointed with her looks?

And no, I did not pay here any money, but I did book a taxi via the Grab app (I set it up in Thailand long time ago, and fortunately it also works in Indonesia.) for her to come to the hotel. When she left, I offered to do the same (bike in this case, as she was in a hurry). It was just a normal "date", except usually girls arrange their own transport rather than asking me to book / pay it for them. Not sure I've ever been asked that before, but I thought ok, I've never met a hijab girl either, so who knows? It was just 5-6 km each way I think and cost the equivalent of a cup of coffee or something like that, so not even sure why she asked. Guessing it made her feel better for some reason that I was paying for her to come.

We all learn at some point and somewhere. As far as I can tell, you did pretty well for being new to classic.

In regards to timing, it doesn't make sense but if you look at a different perspective, they are not dealing with 2 different rooms-cleaning and getting a bonus of 150 by giving you 1 girl who pretty much would sit on the couch staring at her phone. Also, classic isn't really loosing much after paying girls (few changes) whatever they are getting.

So, trick here as stated before, have mamma drill these key words in to the girls mind, "good service good tips" possibly "double time if they perform well". End of the day, they are there to make money for whatever financial constraints they are in and we are there to give them that in exchange of something they possess. Don't forget to show the countdown timer to the room attendant as you walk in 😁.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2935347]Well, I will bow to your experience and apologise for what is probably my error then. I don't think I asked the mamasan (Cha-Cha, which I kind of liked) if two girls at Classic gave more time, but instead for some reason just assumed it did not. Probably this was due to two girls costing just 150,000 more than one girl, while two hours instead of one hour costs 700,000. So it doesn't really make any sense that paying 150,000 more will give you both an extra half hour and an extra girl, while paying 350,000 more gives you just one more hour. I mean, wtf?

When the phone then started to ring after one hour, I just took that as confirmation. At that time I was already showered and dressed anyway, as I assumed time was running out and I'm not going to fuck them again in whatever few minutes are left. Had I known there were half an hour left, I might have played it differently.[/QUOTE]

Here my friend, you made an historic milestone. Getting Tinder girls in exchange of Grab. Lucky you and happy for you.

I have had Badoo and Cupid girls for free but then I paid for their taxi and dinner but never a tinder. One of them actually accompanied me to Bangkok. My luck with Tinder being all high-fly golden pussy syndrome infected girls.

Keep her in loupe bud, will come in handy on a rainy day 😁.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2935355]I don't think I said I were disappointed with her looks?

And no, I did not pay here any money, but I did book a taxi via the Grab app (I set it up in Thailand long time ago, and fortunately it also works in Indonesia.) for her to come to the hotel. When she left, I offered to do the same (bike in this case, as she was in a hurry). It was just a normal "date", except usually girls arrange their own transport rather than asking me to book / pay it for them. Not sure I've ever been asked that before, but I thought ok, I've never met a hijab girl either, so who knows? It was just 5-6 km each way I think and cost the equivalent of a cup of coffee or something like that, so not even sure why she asked. Guessing it made her feel better for some reason that I was paying for her to come.[/QUOTE]

Looks like Emporium is trying to up their game as well. When you say Papasam / Handler, are we talking about David? As long as I've known him, he is very transparent and listens to what client desires.

[QUOTE=DevSagar;2935317]I have banged 6 chicks in Emporium on my 2 trips so far. There was a report by a fellow traveler that a minimum tip of 200 K is mandatory to the chick. I was not aware of it as even on my this trip; I have been paying 200 K willingly so far without knowing this rule as I was mighty delighted with the chicks performance in the room.

Now, the chick that I banged today was greedy; ordered a corona despite me telling her No that neither I drink nor I smoke. She wanted to order fags also but did not, still went ahead with beer. The bill came to me and I had a polite discussion with the Papasan that I was not happy with the service as well. My 3 points raised were; the first one that you did not inform me of giving me a 1.4 M chick. I did not ask and he did not tell. Don't know, whose mistake it is. In his defense, he said I chose the best chick for you as per your need. I told him you should have informed me about the price point. I gave the chick 100 K as tip and she demanded more. I could not understand as we had a communication problem due to the language. My 2nd point was I am not happy with chicks service in room and I pay tip as per my choice and not as her matter of right. Then he informed me that the management changed the rule one month ago that it is mandatory. I said WTF. He said last time when you were here it was your wish but now it isn't. I called the chick down to the reception and gave her another 100 K. My third point was I told her that I do not drink or smoke and dissuaded as her as well but when I came out of shower post the swimming pool session she was holding a bottle of corona. She carried it with her to the room and drank it after our 90 minute session was over while I was having my shower. I conveyed all of this to Papasan and again the same excuse that she does not understand English language; she has been working there since a year. Offered me a 3 sum too in the room which I declined. So, overall an expense of 1.8 K today with an a polite argument at the end to just kind of be a spoiler of my mood. It is not about the money which has bugged me but as a matter of principle being a customer I should be informed first. I have made my displeasure known to the Papasan today.

I have had my share of wonderful and a few disappointing experiences here; picked chick from Bats and CJs, banged a chick from tinder, repeated my last trip chick, repeated a chick of this trip as well and 2 wow experience's at Emporium except today. My lips and tongue are hurting but still thirsty as I have done so much of DFK. My dick is angry at me and is expecting me to stop and let it rest for a while but it will happen when I am back in my hometown in a few days. It has been a learning experience.

Regards.[/QUOTE]

Forgot to respond on ChaCha, she is one of the nice ones there and doesn't work on a vulture style. Another one I like and trust is Jeni. Last one is Henni, she listens to me and finds what I desire even if she needs to get it from other Mamma. Only thing I don't like about her is her shark syndrome. She would sit in my table and ask for lady drink, smoke and anything else you can think off! I in-fact once told her, "let me take you to the room and milk you 😁.

Offer chacha if you desire, you never know, she might surprise you 😉.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2935347]Well, I will bow to your experience and apologise for what is probably my error then. I don't think I asked the mamasan (Cha-Cha, which I kind of liked) if two girls at Classic gave more time, but instead for some reason just assumed it did not. Probably this was due to two girls costing just 150,000 more than one girl, while two hours instead of one hour costs 700,000. So it doesn't really make any sense that paying 150,000 more will give you both an extra half hour and an extra girl, while paying 350,000 more gives you just one more hour. I mean, wtf?

When the phone then started to ring after one hour, I just took that as confirmation. At that time I was already showered and dressed anyway, as I assumed time was running out and I'm not going to fuck them again in whatever few minutes are left. Had I known there were half an hour left, I might have played it differently.[/QUOTE]

Just got my E-Visa in 10 min after a bit of a hiccup. If you have one of those new passport with a privacy protection film on the photo page, just know, while taking picture of it to upload, glare will distort the image quality to a degree that uploading process will reject it. Only way around is to take a black and white picture then upload unless you have access to one of those high end photo scanners but you would have to reduce the file size.

Also, just to confirm, if your country is eligible to E-visa, you will have access to e-gate at immigration. It should say at the bottom of the e-visa page.

Hope this helps everyone.

[QUOTE=Zippos;2935228]Here it is, possibly most completed TERMS AND ABBREVIATIONS IN THE WORLD OF SEXPEDITION Indonesia. Special thanks to fellow mongers, Kimochi, Classic, Segitia and KUY group to add their input and define most common words that can be understood by different regions of Indonesia.

1. BJ: Oral Sex. Seks oral.

2. HJ: Onani / Masturbation. Masturbasi.

3. FJ: Having Sex. Bersetubuh.

4. ML: Make Love (Having Sex) - Bersetubuh.

5. FK: French Kiss / Fucking Kiss. French Kiss / Fucking Kiss.

6. FF: Finger Fuck (Putting Fingers Into Vagina) - Masukkin Jari Ke Vagina.

7. MOT: Man On The Top. Co Di Atas.

8. WOT: Woman On The Top. Cw Di Atas.

9. DS: Doggy Style. Doggy Style.

10. DC: Damage Cost. Damage Cost.

11. GFE: Girl Friend Experience. Girl Friend Experience.

12. WP: Female Entertainer. Wanita Penghibur.

13. NPWP: Female Call Number. Nomor Punggung Wanita Panggilan.

14. PP: Massage Parlor. Panti Pijat.

15. SSI: Speak Speak Iblis. Speak Speak Iblis.

16. ST: Short Time. Short Time.

17. *LT*: Long Time. Long Time.

18. Polda: Kitchen Police (wife) - Polisi Dapur (Isteri).

19. *CT*: Classic Terminal.

20. *Blok T*: Travel Hotel.

21. *Blok see*: Classic Hotel.

22. *Blok A*: Alexis Hotel (RIP. A great loss to the punters).

23. *BB*: Bintang Baru Hotel.

24. *HS*: Hill Side Hotel.

25. *CIF*: Cum In Face. Keluar di Muka.

26. CIM: Cum In Mouth (Out in Mouth) - Keluar di Mulut.

27. Corn Fur: WP who is still a teenager. Bulu Jagung*: WP yang masih abg.

28. Panlok: WP of Chinese descent. Panlok*: WP Keturunan Chinese.

29. *BM*: Body Massage.

30. LC: Lady Companion (Usually found in karaoke places) -*LC*: Lady Companion (Biasanya ada di tempat2 karaoke).

31. BD: Back Door (Anal Sex).

32. *SHS*: Sex History Speak (don't know what that means!

33. Kondie / Caps / Tameng: Condom. Kondom.

34. *Toge*: Good. Toge*: baik.

35. Tobi: good Savage. Tobi*: baik Biadab.

36. Nocan: Beautiful Number (wp cellphone number / masseuse number at PP) - Nomor Cantik (no hp wp / no pemijat di PP).

37. Therapist: Female masseuse at PP. Therapis*: Wanita pemijat di PP.

38. RO: Repeat Order (FJ with the same girl at different times) -*RO*: Repeat Order (FJ dengan cewe yang sama dalam waktu berbeda).

39. *MMC*: Mimik mimik Cucu.

40. Good -.

41. FOC: Free of Charge (free ML) - ML gratisan.

42. TO: Operation Target. Target Operasi.

43. Red sheet = Rp 100,000 - lembar merah*= Rp 100.000.

44. Blue sheet = Rp 50,000 - lembar biru*= Rp 50.000.

45. Green sheet = Rp 20,000 -*lembar hijau*= Rp 20.000.

46. BSH = Barisan Sakit Hati. Barisan Sakit Hati.

47. PK*= Oversleep hero / loser who likes to report. Pahlawan Kesiangan / pecundang yg suka melapor.

48. *Mimin*= mindik-mindik.

49. *Anjelo*= pick-up and drop-off for housemaids. Antar jemput pramuria.

50. *BBW*= Big Beautiful Woman. Wanita Cantik dan Besar.

51. *Benerin tile*= going upstairs (entering the room with the WP) -*Benerin genteng*= naek ke atas (masuk ke kamar bersama sang WP).

52. *Big "O"*= orgasm. Orgasm, orgasme.

53. *Binor*= someone's wife. Bini orang.

54. *BU*= needs money (like a sales and buy) -*BU*= butuh uang (kayak iklan jual beli).

55. *Buang tai macan*= throw away / expel sperm or semen. Buang tai macan*= buang / keluarin sperma atau sperma.

56. *Maize hair*= smelly teenager who has just started growing hair. Bulu jagung*= abg bau kencur yg baru mulai tumbuh bulu.

57. *Diesel*= sucked until annoyed. Diisep sampe kesel.

58. *GRO*= Guest Relation Officer. Guest Relation Officer.

59. *MK: Cat Bath. Mandi Kucing.

60. *JM: lick miss v. Jilat miss v.

61. *LD*: Ladies Drink.

62. *STW*: Half Old -*STW*: Setengah TuWa.

63. *MILF*: Mom I'd like to fuck.

64. *PM: Pick Mango (either combined with massaging other vital parts around the penis) - Petik Mangga (baik yang dikombinasikan dengan mengurut bagian vital lainnya di sekitar penis).

65. *Kutilang*: THIN Tall SLIMMING. KUrus TInggi LANGsing.

66. *PHP*: Giver of False Hope. Pemberi Harapan Palsu.

67. *FL*: Free Lancer.

68. *SD*: Sexy Dancer.

69. *KC*: King Cross.

70. *MS*: Healthy Massage. Massage Sehat.

71. *JM*: Lick squid. Jilat cumi.

72. CK: Wash Under, lick the anus. Cuci Kolong jilat lobang anus.

73. Bookingan, Bispak, Bokep, Bisyar (basically hookers).

74. ABG (Anak Baru Gede: young girl).

75. Jak Sel (selatan: south), Pus (pusat: CBD).

76. Include / exclude (hotel cost).

77. DP (Deposit, NOT Double Penetration!

Happy Safe Mongering, Zippo.[/QUOTE]Thank you Zippo. Just a note that 'toge' does not mean 'good' in a literal sense, but rather 'toket besar' or 'big tits'. Not listed here is 'tobrut', which means 'toket brutal' or even bigger tits. Both are good, I suppose! SHS likely means 'Senior High School' or SMA in Indonesian.

Yes and I do not blame him. It's the trust and faith factor between the client and Handler. Always have gone by his recommendation and only one time in the past I chose a 1. 4 M chick but he had clarified in advance with reference to her rate. Yesterday, too had pinged him in advance about my arrival and he had kept 2 chicks in mind for me but both of them were 1. 4 M chicks. I was not informed of the price and I just chose one out of them. Then the misunderstanding regarding the tip as I was not aware of the rule change. I have always paid 200 K but that was my choice not out of compulsion. Yesterday got to know of this rule so came as a bit of surprise. I had a polite discussion with him on the reception counter that I did not know all this hence the confusion. Called the chick down and handed her another 100 K as her tip. I will not be surprised if other clubs or bars also adopt the same strategy of minimum tip to the chicks. All in all, still a nice trip with a few minuses; part of mongering journey. It happens, so it's fine. Just wanted other members to be aware of before they take the call.

Regards.

[QUOTE=Zippos;2935392]Looks like Emporium is trying to up their game as well. When you say Papasam / Handler, are we talking about David? As long as I've known him, he is very transparent and listens to what client desires.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zippos;2935391]Here my friend, you made an historic milestone. Getting Tinder girls in exchange of Grab. Lucky you and happy for you.

I have had Badoo and Cupid girls for free but then I paid for their taxi and dinner but never a tinder. One of them actually accompanied me to Bangkok. My luck with Tinder being all high-fly golden pussy syndrome infected girls.

Keep her in loupe bud, will come in handy on a rainy day 😁.[/QUOTE]LOL, thank you.

I recommend giving tinder another go. IME, most of the girls on there in Jakarta are normal girls. As a white guy, I also got considerably more attraction in Jakarta on the dating apps than I do in Bangkok.

I recommend the Bumble app too.

It was difficult to meet these regular girls when I only had a few days though, since I'm not really handsome perhaps. The back and forth messaging goes on for days usually, and many just fizzle out, perhaps before contacting you again several days later. Like today and yesterday I got messages from several girls who I had been talking to while in Jakarta, but now there's no point.