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[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1480022]The Bad: Sauna prices are very high. Highest in Asia.
The Good: 1. Chinese Sauna girls are the pick of the litter. Better IMHO than the Chinese girls available in Geylang (and I like Geylang) , and much better than the Chinese girls available in HKG. 2. The food is great! 3. Osuul is right. Hotel prices are much more reasonable than in HKG or Singapore. 4. There are cheap flights into and out of Macau International Airport to AC, Manila, Bangkok, and Singapore. For my last three visits, I skipped HKG all together and went straight for Macau. For example: BKK-Macau-AC or AC-Macau-BKK. Check Cebu Pacific and Air Asia for good flights. I like to spend 5 days in Macau before moving on. Granted, HKG is a more interesting and dynamic city than Macau, but Macau is better, much better for shagging beautiful Chinese girls. No question about it.
The Bottom Line: if you want to sample beautiful Chinese girls and be treated to the first class Macau Sauna Experience (better IMHO than the BKK Soapy Experience) , go to Macau. I avoid the friendly Filipinas hanging out in Macau bars because I am always either heading to the PI next or I just came from the PI, so I see little point in paying 3x Philippine prices for equal or lesser quality. Same same for Thai girls that are usually available in the saunas. I stop off in Macau for only one reason: to shag the best looking Chinese girls I have thus far found anywhere in the world. And service is generally very high in the Saunas. If not GFE every time, it has always been PSE, at least for me. Sometimes it has been both. There are at least 4 Macau Chinese Sauna girls on my list of top 20 shags of all time. Considering that I have spent something like 30x as much time cumulatively in Thailand and 10x as much time cumulatively in the PI; that is quite an outstanding statistic. But, if you are not into Chinese girls, don't come to Macau. P. S. I am also up for the rare Mongolian girl when I find her and any beautiful Singaporean girls of Chinese extraction. Macau has them too.[/QUOTE]This post is totally accurate in my experience.
Sidenote: a guy I know recently told me 18 is still under construction. Is that true? Seems incredible since it was under construction on my last visit over a year ago!
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[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1480498]Fine enough; you may be more current on pricing. I was thinking more along the lines of about USD 180 for the Sofitel and at least 240 for The Venetian. Places on the upper end. If you've gotten rooms at the Rio for HKD 800, then that's an exceptional deal. The rooms there are big, but I think the place has long seen its finest days. And, yes, HK hotel rooms are tiny. I'm just not seeing Macau as a great place for value, lodgingwise, or pussywise, relative to LOS and AC.[/QUOTE]True LOs and PI is better value. I used to start my SEA vacations with a 2 days stays in Macau. Nothing better to relax then with a 8 hour Sauna trip. Lots of warm water, a few massages (incl. Thigh) and finnaly a hot viet Girl.
But you are right These 2 days did cost me about 550 Euros. Thats why I am going to skip this on my next trip. These 2 days would give me another week in LOS or PI. Just not worth it. Done it already too may times.
Gezz when I worked in China I blew 2000 Euros on a Weekend several times.
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[QUOTE=Rick Rock; 1480532]This post is totally accurate in my experience.
Sidenote: a guy I know recently told me 18 is still under construction. Is that true? Seems incredible since it was under construction on my last visit over a year ago![/QUOTE]I was at 18 a few weeks ago and didn't notice any construction.
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HK Sauna vs Macau
I was wondering if the HK saunas provide the same level of service as the Macau ones? Looking through the HK forum and reading some info on the web it looks like the HK ones offer a couple of hours or so whereas the Macau ones its an all day affair?
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HK vs. Macau saunas
[QUOTE=Scuffer;1481454]I was wondering if the HK saunas provide the same level of service as the Macau ones? Looking through the HK forum and reading some info on the web it looks like the HK ones offer a couple of hours or so whereas the Macau ones its an all day affair?[/QUOTE]With the caveat that my experience at HK saunas is limited, I don't believe any of the HK saunas have lineups. Typically, a girl is brought to your massage room (and in many cases, you'll need to do the deed on a massage table, which is not terribly comfortable.) You may reject what is on offer and another girl will be brought in, but most of the time you will need to wait a few minutes as they fetch the second or third girl. Needless to say, there are none in HK that will have 80+ girls on offer, and the Macau saunas seem to be better equipped for customers to enjoy a longer stay. (And on an earlier poster's query about Macau as a mongering destination, I posited my concern about Macau lodging prices but neglected to mention that many mongers on this board are able to wangle rooms, gratis, in the wee hours. But with the noise and cigarette smoke, that doesn't appeal to me.)
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Prices redux
[QUOTE=Osuul; 1480591]True LOs and PI is better value. I used to start my SEA vacations with a 2 days stays in Macau. Nothing better to relax then with a 8 hour Sauna trip. Lots of warm water, a few massages (incl. Thigh) and finnaly a hot viet Girl.
But you are right These 2 days did cost me about 550 Euros. Thats why I am going to skip this on my next trip. These 2 days would give me another week in LOS or PI. Just not worth it. Done it already too may times.
Gezz when I worked in China I blew 2000 Euros on a Weekend several times.[/QUOTE]Totally agree here. Last year the going rate for Macau sex packages sold at Shun Tak (hydrofoil plus 90-minute sessions at 18, Darling or Rio, sometimes with a small extra like a footrub) ranged from 1700 to 2300 HKD. On the upper end, that's nearly US $300, a sum that could easily cover companionship for three days in Thailand or the Philippines.
And to that monger, who may be deciding to visit HK / Macau, there is also the option of visiting Dongguan for the KTV experience (see the China board, and note Big Swingin' Dave's services. I'm not a shill, but have had a great time with his crew on three separate occasions in the past). For the latter, of course, you'll need a PRC visa.
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Macau Next Week
I will be in Macau next week. Looking to hit up Rio. 18, Familia Nobre, and if I have money left (probably not) Sanado and East. Has there been any recent changes at these places? I remember people saying 18 was under construction for some time. In all my experiences, I've actually never been to Rio. Do they line up at a specific time like 18 or do you have to call them out and they line up for you as you sit on the lounge chair?
At East, anyone know if massage girl #303 is still there? She is the Viet with the huge rack and flirty personality.
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Macau pricing
Just back from Macau after a long absence. Prices are ridiculously high. I can get model quality in the USA for the price of a sauna experience. Darling 1 was a joke compared to what I have seen in the place. They had a 6 girl lineup. 5 Viets 1 Chinese, all average looking. I forget the price they quoted but I left immediately. This used to be my favorite place on the planet.
Hou Va provided a decent lineup at good pricing. I believe it was 500MOP in house and slightly more for takeout. Decent quality overall. I also visited Beverly Spa (3rd floor) and participated. Beverly had a good selection of girls from about six different countries with prices ranging from about 1500MOP to 3000MOP (for an African girl).
Thanks to all who post here. I pretty much knew what to expect there thanks to your input on this forum.
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[QUOTE=Allover; 1482174]Just back from Macau after a long absence. Prices are ridiculously high. I can get model quality in the USA for the price of a sauna experience. Darling 1 was a joke compared to what I have seen in the place. They had a 6 girl lineup. 5 Viets 1 Chinese, all average looking. I forget the price they quoted but I left immediately. This used to be my favorite place on the planet.
Hou Va provided a decent lineup at good pricing. I believe it was 500MOP in house and slightly more for takeout. Decent quality overall. I also visited Beverly Spa (3rd floor) and participated. Beverly had a good selection of girls from about six different countries with prices ranging from about 1500MOP to 3000MOP (for an African girl).
Thanks to all who post here. I pretty much knew what to expect there thanks to your input on this forum.[/QUOTE]I have not been there since they moved. I wonder if they just getting started again. Anyone been there since they reopened.
What is the place like now?
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Macau revisited
[QUOTE=Allover;1482174]sauna Prices are ridiculously high. I can get model quality in the USA for the price of a sauna experience. Hou Va provided a decent lineup at good pricing. .[/QUOTE]But in USA you never know what you are geeting for the similar prices being quoted and agreed on phone and email as reality could be always different that photo shopped pics as it happened to me thrice realising imperfection in their system in otherwise allegedly perfect country. Here in Macau, sauna, as in FKK in Germany, you get a chance to play your cards openly after seeing so that you know what you are getting! Add to that the set up costs, while don't forget, cost of food / beverages which is quiet sumptous at least in Rio where I visited lately. During my last visit a few years back, I underwent quiet a let down at Rio when the babe reported her mc once inside the room by two finger dipping taste and I had to return 18 sauna considering delay until next round. But this time the 22 yr old Chinese babe; who more than compensated me; #107 with good shaped posterior supported with alluring thighs unlike others' whose derriere were more on thinner side. As usual when the sexexercise progressed to marathon levels, the babe changed from her mechanical attitudes to GFE with even DFK which these babes avoid at all cost considering fear of respiratory track infections, which are a evil force to reckon with considering daily busy schedules for both. While the [google to find out] are other annoying evils you must watch out and clear them from time to time using 10min procedure of cauterization however thank god, our skin defences are quiet strong unless some breaks in it, due to even abbressions, hence inspite of such close contact and body rubbing their incidence is far and in between.
Here too human limitation due to increased use of technology is becomming palpable. The babe I had for outcall from Hou va was a good shaped Viet babe but with silicane boobs which decived my well trained eyes. I had two Viet babes in two days, one in emerald sauna; which lisboa bellboy took me to deceitfully telling as emperor sauna and the other the Hou va babe, both had silican implants. However the quality of silicone and surgical skills of inserting the same from a incision inside in your armpits has improved here considerably when compared to Berlin babe's which felt so hard giving you such an unerotic experince. Of course the babe at Hou va costed much less 710 MOP when compared to smaller sized sauna Emerald[1400]
With much less facilities while the outcall being to my 5 star facilty had comfort of sauna bath sans food for which I had to spend. Overall expense at RIO was 2100 foe excellent closure of the day.
As in Germany or Switzerland, you meet 65% Romanian babes similarly here they are Viet babes majoritily. Chinese babes are typically availabe in high end Saunas like Rio, east spa.
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[QUOTE=Scuffer;1481454]I was wondering if the HK saunas provide the same level of service as the Macau ones? Looking through the HK forum and reading some info on the web it looks like the HK ones offer a couple of hours or so whereas the Macau ones its an all day affair?[/QUOTE]Service better in Macau. HK spas have indifferent attitudes at best. Price higher in Macau but I have had good walk up service in HK. Never a dull moment for me in either place LOL.
PC out
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Recent Macau Trip
Just wanted to give my quick two cents on my recent visit to Macau. I visited a few spots. I hope I don't get my information mixed up. But here goes:
Rio. It was my first time and it reminded me of the way Sauna 18 used to be. The line up was not that plentiful. Maybe 30 Chinese and 5 Vietnamese. The Chinese girls looked a lot better than the Vietnamese. I'm partial to Vietnamese and even I would pick the Chinese in this place before the Vietnamese. The girls who help you take a "Japanese" shower or scrub all all Indonesians. Not much to look at but plenty flirty. The service I think is quite good here and even though it is one of the pricier Saunas, I think it's worth the visit at least once.
Sauna 18. This place has really fallen off in my opinion. The clientel there is extremely rude. I know you're not there to hang with the other guys, but their lack of politeness affects your overall experience. It's way too crowded. Good for the girls, but not so much for the guys. They still have a wide selection of women. Maybe a 70 girl lineup when I went. However, my own personal opinion is that they don't look as good as they used to. Again, probably worth a visit just to see the 70-100 girl lineup. With that many choices, you are bound to find something you love.
Familia Nobre. I cannot stand this place. I have now gone twice. Their customer service is just terrible. Alot of the other saunas I go to, they make you feel welcomed, comfortable, make sure you are taken care of. Both times I went, they basically ignored me. I think they only care to cater to those rude guys from China (the same ones flooding Sauna 18). I think I just look and act too Westernized so they don't care about me. Well, it could just be me. But the girls are actually quite good looking and they all seem to have huge boobs. But percentages tell me they all can't be real so expect some fake boobs if you select from this bunch.
Golden Sauna. When I went, it was still early so only 1 Chinese girl was there. The rest (about 10) were Vietnamese. I think this place is one of the better priced sauna. They don't have a big selection, but what they do have is definitely above average. Though I didn't see many girls there was probably only 2 that I would pass on.
East Sauna. Unfortunately this place I cannot report too much on. I was there really brief and only to get a massage from girl 303. Her massage is still top notch (though she reduced her implants). I know you don't go to saunas to get handjobs, but I'd really have to rate hers as one of the best I ever experienced. So if you want to give it a try, remember 303. She's got a great personality to match.
Sanado Sauna. This used to be one of my favorite spots but this time it wasn't all that. Girls were subpar from where they used to be. I swear there used to be more hot girls here. Prices are okay and the service (food and hand / foot massage) is definitely better than at other saunas in my opinion. I know you don't go to saunas for food too, but seriously, I think Sanado has the best tasting food. Order the Haninese Chicken Rice and tell me that shit don't taste good.
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Rio vs Sanado
Rio and Sanado in Macau.
Rio is much bigger set up than Sanado but you pay 25% less in later if you visit in afternoons before 6pm (2100 vs 1400). Also you have less choice of babes in afternoons, hardly 1 or 2 of model babe. By the way model means tall babe, looks maynot differ as much. Rio has excellent food offering better than even topend FKK in Germany with non alcoholic drinks free. A good sized dick backed with marathon session always earned me kudos from Chinese babes but they surely show their annoyance during like girl anywhere (including my wife) who always wants to maxmise her ratio of money per calorie lost. But the builtup of sex induced high takes toll on her at the end and peformance wins.
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Sauna Tables
A few years ago I read here there were saunas that used massage tables with holes for your business when laying face down. Sounded like a lot of fun, but I can't find any posts referencing this feature? Would love to try, does anyone know if the saunas provide this and which ones?
Thanks in advance!
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I've noticed that Familia Nobre Sauna (Chinese name sounds like "How Moon" for taxi driver) is about 30% cheaper than Rio, but the girls and facilities are very comparable. In fact, one thing I don't like about Rio is that far too many of the girls are listed as "models", making them even more expensive (even though they aren't really prettier than the non-model girls, maybe just a bit taller).
As I found out on sex 141 english site's Macau section, Rio no longer allows their thigh girls to do their thing in a private room. Thigh massage is now done in the lounge, limiting the possibility of making out with the girl. By comparison, Familia Nobre allows it in the room, and its cheaper than Rio. Don't get me wrong, I love Rio, just not the price! For the same price as a "model" bonk at Rio, I can get a non-model bonk at Familia Nobre (but girl looks the same, just not called "model") , then take a lounge girl out for short time afterward.
Also, someone posted about not being treated well as a white guy at Familia Nobre. I'm a white guy, and I always feel like I'm treated like a king there (and, to be honest, everywhere else too. I have not had any bad experiences with how I've been treated, at any Macau Sauna).
Natty. Your posts are always a great read.
Gherk
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1480022]The Bad: Sauna prices are very high. Highest in Asia.[/QUOTE]