German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=Turgid;2512932]The first girls I go for in an FKK are the hottest ones. I think all other mongers do that which is why they are the most difficult to get. I am not foolish enough to boast that I fuck hot prostitutes when everybody else has had them. That is pathetic. You boast when nobody else does what you have done.

Regarding old and / or ugly babes. They have it harder to make a living than the hot ones. Why make their lives harder by being unkind to them? I do not fuck them but I am pleasant to them, I never shoo away a prostitute and would never boast that I do not fuck them. I have been burnt by that on occasions for example when Sylvania was annoyed with me for not going to the room with her when every time she came to me I talk to her. I will continue to be pleasant even though she threw angry words at me. I think being harsh with them makes their job more difficult. On the other hand I have never been to the room with the mature Cuban lady whom I have met at Oase every year for the past 15 years, yet she is always very pleasant with me, we are now like old friends.

Concerning girls who are not the hottest but not ugly my best sessions have been with such girls. Certain mongers on ISG seem to rely only on their eyes for service. I do not. I use all my senses. Does the woman smell good? Does she have a nice voice? How smooth is her skin? Does her skin feel nice? Does she taste nice? I have been with many of the hottest girls who I could not DATY. I repeat only with girls who I enjoyed the most and my repeats are not necessarily the hottest girls on record.

My advice to mongers who rely only on their eyes for their choice is to continue doing so. Bang only the hottest prostitutes. That would mean that many others with less mileage who are pleasing to most of my senses would be available for me.[/QUOTE]I am never rude or aggressive with anybody, and I will not start with the prostitutes even sometimes they are rude with me I don t care. I am not looking for service, just beauty matters for me. My best sex was never the paid one this is for sure. Usually I try to be the first customer of the day for the girls, I don t like to be a follower, and this is true for decades. Concerning Sylvania, I know her for 15 years at least, never went with her, I think it is pathetic (may be psychiatric) to see this old woman chasing guys in the clubs.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2512953]Prettiest are not only the busiest, when many guys don t feel able with beauties, thinking they will give bad service, when just self confidence problem or not used with beautiful women. I remember at World, on many Saturday afternoon, evening and night, had the prettiest only for me, for 2 or 3 rooms with her, when much less pretty and elegant than her were busier than her, some guys telling me she looked arrogant, when sweet GFE who just wanted to look perfect. I also remember Megan who was Sara at Mainhattan and not busy, when she was prettier, more natural than now at Globe. When I discovered Daniela at LR, really not busy, even true natural beauty and real good surprise. On the other hand, old ugly silicon botox Sylvana gets some of the best looking guys, when some beauties are uglies specialists. Not much logic in brothels when I would be happy to find a new elegant natural beauty not busy, to get her only for me. It was great time.[/QUOTE]I meant prettiest are not always the busiest.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2512954]I am never rude or aggressive with anybody, and I will not start with the prostitutes even sometimes they are rude with me I don t care. I am not looking for service, just beauty matters for me. My best sex was never the paid one this is for sure. Usually I try to be the first customer of the day for the girls, I don t like to be a follower, and this is true for decades. Concerning Sylvania, I know her for 15 years at least, never went with her, I think it is pathetic (may be psychiatric) to see this old woman chasing guys in the clubs.[/QUOTE]You don't want service? First time I have heard that one! I won't beauty (per my standards) and service. Absolutely!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2513009]You don't want service? First time I have heard that one! I won't beauty (per my standards) and service. Absolutely![/QUOTE]Don't you know quite many go with girls, to chat, to drink, to smoke, to listen to music, for therapy about their wife and life problems, to gossip about others, but no sex. When they don't get headache bored by talkings, girls love this business. Often, I see girls going out of room, returning, going out of room, returning. On the other hand, I find quite insulting girls telling me: you are a pornstar, or feel a bit uncomfortable when they say: now after you, I can't work. As say girls: we are all different. But I agree to pay for beauty, not for girls I would not go for free in real life.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2513051]Don't you know quite many go with girls, to chat, to drink, to smoke, to listen to music, for therapy about their wife and life problems, to gossip about others, but no sex. When they don't get headache bored by talkings, girls love this business. Often, I see girls going out of room, returning, going out of room, returning. On the other hand, I find quite insulting girls telling me: you are a pornstar, or feel a bit uncomfortable when they say: now after you, I can't work. As say girls: we are all different. But I agree to pay for beauty, not for girls I would not go for free in real life.[/QUOTE]You assumed that when I think about service, I only consider "sexual service". Well, no I don't. Like you said, everybody is different, and don't you know that all of those things you mentioned could indeed be considered to be "services"? In those situations, the monger hasn't simply paid for "beauty", just like I don't. We both pay for "services". With me it's sexual. With somebody else, maybe it's to smoke or to drink or to talk or for him to rub her feet. But whatever it is, it isn't just for beauty. It was to receive something in return. A service (s). That's why it doesn't follow to me for somebody to say they expect only beauty and not service. If they mean no sexual service OK. But absolutely no kind of service? That makes no sense to me at all. Don't you know?

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2512897]The communication between the girls is not optimal, usually they belong to a group may coming from the same village, may be some family, may be living in the same apartment. And the relation between groups is always minimum.[/QUOTE]They tend to care about what service I received from other girls and many regulars also asked me "what does she do to you in room?" when she discover I repeat other girl, so I guess some communication is there!

As for same village, I am not sure about that, but I do think from same platform to bring them to FKK can be the reason like same pimp or company etc.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2513009]You don't want service? First time I have heard that one! I won't beauty (per my standards) and service. Absolutely![/QUOTE]I hear about some monger who talk more in room with girls than to fuck, they do fuck, but it is like once or few times in whole day that these monger often take her in room, usually these clients are best for money, but a girl told me once they are also worst and at the same time can be dangerous as it can turn into stalker. Some case like this lead to murder in German FKK before.

There are a number of mongers who think they are something special to girl and refer to them as my girl or whatever, but they are merely just getting good service which they do not realize and mix FKK with the reality. We see few of these mongers on forum who think he is special, but in the end no matter what they do to us in room, we all are clients and they are prostitutes.

Some FKK girls are really mesmerizing giving outstanding mind blowing sex, so I do understand where this comes from though! I am glad I grow up listening to Snoop doggy dog, those ho not going to hustle Mr Ho LOL! I ain't going down in dog pound like that LOL!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2512932]The first girls I go for in an FKK are the hottest ones. I think all other mongers do that which is why they are the most difficult to get. I am not foolish enough to boast that I fuck hot prostitutes when everybody else has had them. That is pathetic. You boast when nobody else does what you have done.

Certain mongers on ISG seem to rely only on their eyes for service.[/QUOTE]Nobody just uses their eyes. Here is just one example: When someone with NPD tells a story, they always frame themselves as unique, special, worthy of admiration, and the object of jealousy. This includes selectively remembering and forgetting facts so that they line up with this distorted reality. People with NPD see themselves as "superior" and only take a liking to people that recognize their "superiority". If the prettiest WG "chooses" him over other mongers, he sees it as validation of his superiority. He will selectively forget that he pays her thousands of EUR in order to be chosen. An astute WG will realize that she can maximize her earnings if she caters to his addiction, which is constant flattery and ego-stroking. If an "8" optic agrees with his reality then she becomes a "10". If a "10" optic fails to make him feel superior then she drops to a "7". Here are the traits for NPD:

[QUOTE][URL]https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662[/URL]
(a) Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance, (b) Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration, (c) Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it, (d) Exaggerate achievements and talents, (e) Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, beauty or the perfect mate, (f) Believe they are superior and can only associate with equally special people, (g) Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior, (h) Be envious of others and believe others envy them, (I) Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious, (j) React with rage or contempt when responding to criticism, and (k) try to belittle the other person to make themselves appear superior.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2512954]I am never rude or aggressive with anybody, and I will not start with the prostitutes even sometimes they are rude with me I don t care. I am not looking for service, just beauty matters for me. My best sex was never the paid one this is for sure. Usually I try to be the first customer of the day for the girls, I don t like to be a follower, and this is true for decades. Concerning Sylvania, I know her for 15 years at least, never went with her, I think it is pathetic (may be psychiatric) to see this old woman chasing guys in the clubs.[/QUOTE]I am not rude, but in rare occasion it is essential to let the person know the reason for declining if you are confronted in some foreign language that you do not understand to adjust the failed communication, so if my polite "maybe later, thank you for coming" or "I just finish the session" does not convey and confronted with some foreign language in aggressive manner, I always calmly reply with louder voice "Ugly (or elephant girl") ! Look at yourself in the mirror" LOL! I think this is what I call effective communication skill in brothel LOL! You must communicate more deeply if first polite shallow communication fails you LOL!

Ain't no ho going to deceive Mr Ho, I ain't going down like that in some brothel in suburb of some German city LOL!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2513009]You don't want service? First time I have heard that one! I won't beauty (per my standards) and service. Absolutely![/QUOTE]Yes this is true, for me the best sex is not with a prostitute, it songs always fake. I always ask the girls to stop to make noise (like a pornstar). I went the first time to a prostitute when I was 45 and when I see many senior German guys going every week several time to the same FKK for me this is just impossible, I need more adventure in my life, doing this will just be too boring.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2513149]Yes this is true, for me the best sex is not with a prostitute, it songs always fake. I always ask the girls to stop to make noise (like a pornstar). I went the first time to a prostitute when I was 45 and when I see many senior German guys going every week several time to the same FKK for me this is just impossible, I need more adventure in my life, doing this will just be too boring.[/QUOTE]I never said that "service" only meant having sex. Then went on to clarify. You want something from these tutes! And I doubt it's for her to just sit there silently on the bed looking like "beauty". Besides, how do we know you're telling the truth anyway? In here posting on a tute site just like the rest of us and going to the room but allegedly not desiring "service". Trying to convince us that you've beaten your "sex addiction". Or is it yourself who you want to convince? I wrote sex addiction like that because I don't believe I have an "addiction" just because I patronize prostitutes. I'm 100% in control.

Indeed, I think that talking about a general "addiction to sex" is rather ridiculous as the drive to have sex is a basic, natural human urge and instinct, responsible for much pleasure and required for procreation. I don't say these things as some sort of attack upon you. I'm just tired of overly conservative, prudish people trying to convince the rest of the world that sex and thinking about sex is shameful, and that sex must be kept in a box with the lights out. And that if one desires to have sex, and a lot of it, then they are "addicted". Bullshit!

No doubt, there are some guys here who are addicted and can't control themselves and their spending. But there are plenty of other guys who aren't, and who don't let it all spin out of control. I'm in the latter group, which I believe comprises the overwhelming majority of those of us here.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2513129]You assumed that when I think about service, I only consider "sexual service". Well, no I don't. Like you said, everybody is different, and don't you know that all of those things you mentioned could indeed be considered to be "services"? In those situations, the monger hasn't simply paid for "beauty", just like I don't. We both pay for "services". With me it's sexual. With somebody else, maybe it's to smoke or to drink or to talk or for him to rub her feet. But whatever it is, it isn't just for beauty. It was to receive something in return. A service (s). That's why it doesn't follow to me for somebody to say they expect only beauty and not service. If they mean no sexual service OK. But absolutely no kind of service? That makes no sense to me at all. Don't you know?[/QUOTE]I always only say about my subjective standards, I need beauty, elegance and charm, I don t go with girls I see on public exhibitions even they can be my best, but then I prefer to stop because their image don t interest me anymore, but when I choose to go to room, it s always to play sex, not to sleep or gossip, or smoke I don t, or drink champagne. Chatting is for outside time to pay for me. I don t go to brothels to find love, but to play enjoyable sex which start in mind from girl look and behavior. And much higher pleasure in mind than just emptying balls. I pay for beauty and time for sex, not for companionship. Many girls never asked extras they could and some are very flexible about time, I think they prefer a repeating. I love when girls offer me, quality for behavior for me.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2513149]Yes this is true, for me the best sex is not with a prostitute, it songs always fake. I always ask the girls to stop to make noise (like a pornstar). I went the first time to a prostitute when I was 45 and when I see many senior German guys going every week several time to the same FKK for me this is just impossible, I need more adventure in my life, doing this will just be too boring.[/QUOTE]For sure, sex is much more interesting with a normal woman, much more intimate, much more emotional. In brothels, more like a game, when WGs really don't know much about sex. My standards are from my past real life and I play same kind of sex, even no love, just love sex. Some girls telling: too much love with you, can't work now, after you.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2513140]Nobody just uses their eyes. Here is just one example: When someone with NPD tells a story, they always frame themselves as unique, special, worthy of admiration, and the object of jealousy. This includes selectively remembering and forgetting facts so that they line up with this distorted reality. People with NPD see themselves as "superior" and only take a liking to people that recognize their "superiority". If the prettiest WG "chooses" him over other mongers, he sees it as validation of his superiority. He will selectively forget that he pays her thousands of EUR in order to be chosen. An astute WG will realize that she can maximize her earnings if she caters to his addiction, which is constant flattery and ego-stroking. If an "8" optic agrees with his reality then she becomes a "10". If a "10" optic fails to make him feel superior then she drops to a "7". Here are the traits for NPD:[/QUOTE]I remember at GT on crowded January 2018 Saturday, about German Lucifer I left room with her after 15 mn at Palace on April 2017. When there was a line waiting for her, when she was waiting for key with clients, she came to me not once but 3 times asking to go with her, when she got only 450 € from me before this day and I was the one not to want to go with her even she was really lovely on that night. She came again at Velbert 1 month later but had to wait September 2019 at Gold for a repeat and even it was amazing 2 hours room, but no repeat. My best FKK girl was not because hardcore sex, but because her great behavior for me, I remember on Sunday 12 March 2017, just arriving, didn't have time to eat or even ask for a drink, she went straight to me telling: if you want me, I prefer to go with and had great room in best room upstairs with her milky skin in sunlight. For her, I ate after her, drank, and returned home. When I stopped on end of June 2017 just after her birthday, not returning on July when receiving messages, only returning when she left on holidays and discovering sweet even long time in business, but still fresh in body and mind Alissa, but when I returned on September after holidays meeting great Lena at Wellcum, she gave me a so great welcome, changing her appointments, delaying her biggest money for Friday night for 6 hours client. I apologized she was late for him because of me, she answered: I prefer with you again. Unfortunately, her new public behavior was not good anymore for my eyes and mind, even had great last time with 2 rooms as usual, on 6 October 2017 , so I preferred to stop. My best girl, but not anymore for my standards, when I repeated with Kate from Velbert to GT for 5 years. If she stayed what she claimed to be when starting, I'm not like her as she said about Daria, she would have had me every week as long she worked, for much more money for her. But these girls are not for Nobel award, but running all money. So, next one for me, even I needed 11 months to find good surprise at LR.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2513140]Nobody just uses their eyes. Here is just one example: When someone with NPD tells a story, they always frame themselves as unique, special, worthy of admiration, and the object of jealousy. This includes selectively remembering and forgetting facts so that they line up with this distorted reality. People with NPD see themselves as "superior" and only take a liking to people that recognize their "superiority". If the prettiest WG "chooses" him over other mongers, he sees it as validation of his superiority. He will selectively forget that he pays her thousands of EUR in order to be chosen. An astute WG will realize that she can maximize her earnings if she caters to his addiction, which is constant flattery and ego-stroking. If an "8" optic agrees with his reality then she becomes a "10". If a "10" optic fails to make him feel superior then she drops to a "7". Here are the traits for NPD:[/QUOTE]This is a better analysis than mine. This is so true and it is all over ISG. Lots of ego boosting. ¨I bang only the hottest prostitutes¨. Boasting about doing what everybody else is doing.