Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1282569]And, despite the convenient stereotype, many of the tailor shop guys are actually from Nepal.[/QUOTE]Very interesting indeed, Thank you, I have learned something today

[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1282569]There's a lot of Thais with Indian ancestry. Sikhs, Hindu, Buddhists, Jains, etc, are all in the mix. You can visit Bangkok districts such as lower Silom, or Pahurat, to see this.

Indians, or Thai-Indians, play a large role in the growing local hotel industry. Plus, a lot of Indian families travel to Thailand to have lavish weddings at the 5-star hotels along the Chao Phraya River.

And, despite the convenient stereotype, many of the tailor shop guys are actually from Nepal.[/QUOTE]Thai Language comes from Sanskrit and Pali. Which are old Indian Languages and they happen to be the mother language of all modern Indian Languages (BTW India has around 20 Languages, all different from each other)

Buddism comes from India too. Around 97% of Thais are Buddhists.

Go figure the "indian" influence which has been there for centuries.

[QUOTE=Iowaska;1268642]my friend went in the 90's and paid £80 and had 4 wgs for 8hrs fully at his disposal[/QUOTE]Those were the days I guess.

Do not go to Pattaya. It is not "a must" and you do not have enough time to justify going there.

For going rates and places, RTFF.

[QUOTE=Chill Out;1282531]What's the deal with Sukhumvit being taken over by Indians, by the way? I mean half the businesses are indians tailors, indian restaurants, etc. I remember reading here that this wasn't the case 10 years ago. Anyone knows the reason of this change?[/QUOTE]You want to know, ask them. Some are Bangladeshi, Muslim. Some Hindu. Some not subcontinentals at all.

[QUOTE=Chill Out;1282591]Do not go to Pattaya. It is not "a must" and you do not have enough time to justify going there.[/QUOTE]I agree, you will waste your time going to Pattaya.

Also, as your GF will be with you adn she has been to Thailand before, I'd say your chances of a "Boys night out" is very very unlikely.

My advice to you would be to find a nice place (SPA would be good) where you know Extras are offered (This forum can help you) and where your wife will not suspect anything.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1282198]On this trip, my hotel and a few ther hotels I stopped in were full of Indians. On Cowboy itself, they had learned to stop roaming around in gangs and had clearly learnt that groups don't realy get the girls. So inside Spankys, and Rainbow. They were happily sitting around in groups of two, or three or four guys. And true to Indian form, with one girl shared between them all. LOL. They are slowly getting there.[/QUOTE]Well, Indian middle class is getting rich. Disposable income is increasing. Bangkok remains a near and easy spot to get to. In terms of prices it is also cheap for Indian to buy a return ticket and stay in Hotel. For eg taking a return flight to Goa from Delhi at most time is more costly than a Delhi. BKK flight. Secondly hotel prices in Goa are way over the top even for three-four star properties. Considering that it remains a good option to fly out to Thailand for 4-5 days have some fun with the boys, bang some pussy and return hope with cheap stuff for everyone!

[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1175559]Sorry about this thread. I posted it by mistake one night when downloading some photos. I immediately e-mailed Jackson and asked him to delete it, but he appears to be asleep at the wheel (except for ladyboy references).

I'm surprised it has any legs at all.[/QUOTE]Since the other Bangkok thread has been fucked for some time and recently renamed, it seems convenient for this one to take over Bangkok Mongering reports.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1282617]I agree, you will waste your time going to Pattaya.

Also, as your GF will be with you adn she has been to Thailand before, I'd say your chances of a "Boys night out" is very very unlikely.

My advice to you would be to find a nice place (SPA would be good) where you know Extras are offered (This forum can help you) and where your wife will not suspect anything.[/QUOTE]Nics right, since your wife is with you. Stay in Bangkok, it is for families, sightseeing, fancy and expensive food and of course shopping etc.

Pattaya is a "shithole" and once your wife see it, you will be in a load of shit!

LBM

[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1282586]Thai Language comes from Sanskrit and Pali. Which are old Indian Languages and they happen to be the mother language of all modern Indian Languages (BTW India has around 20 Languages, all different from each other)

Buddism comes from India too. Around 97% of Thais are Buddhists.

Go figure the "indian" influence which has been there for centuries.[/QUOTE]Thai language script (and Laos script) is influenced by Khmer script and maybe Sanskrit although Sanskrit appears to have no script of its own. While some Thai words are borrowed from Sanskrit and Pali languages, its a stretch to say that Thai comes from them. Modern Thai has probably more English related words than Pali words, excepting possibly in religious type of speach. I speak Thai, but when I hear Pali spoken by monks at the temple, I don't understand any of it at all. I can read it with no understanding since they use Thai script (a subset of it), for convenience of the Thais.

Its really quite different to Thai and has a very limited vowel sound set compared to Thai. Basically it has A, U, and I sounds, both short and long, but E and O probably only short. Thai has over 20 vowel sounds.

I do understand a fair bit of the Laos language as its close to Thai and bits of some other dialects in the near regions.

I don't believe Pali and Thai are considerd to be in the same language families. Sanskrit and Pali are from the Indo-Aryan family according to Wikipedia (just checked) , but Thai is not.

Forms of Buddhism have spread to many countries, like the spread of Islam and Christianity. Is my home country (Christian dominant) influenced by Palestine / Israel? I don't like to think so.

Yes Thai culture is influenced by Buddhism, but they also believe in pagan spirits. The 5 main Buddhist precepts are broken happily by Thais on a daily basis. Mai Pen Rai

[QUOTE=Chill Out;1282531]What's the deal with Sukhumvit being taken over by Indians, by the way? I mean half the businesses are indians tailors, indian restaurants, etc. I remember reading here that this wasn't the case 10 years ago. Anyone knows the reason of this change?[/QUOTE]Indians were originally brought in by one of the former Kings to collect taxes, he knew thais would just pinch the bloody lot and he would see none of it, the British staffed most of the public services of their former colonies with Indians also. The indians stayed, and they own a lot of land around the Sukhumvit (lower) area, all of the hotels from the railway near the JW Marriott down to the Westin at Soi 19 are owned by indians, even the Amaris. They have done very well for themselves and good luck to them. But the thai people hate their guts, in fact thai people hate just about everybody else, they are super xenophobic.

[QUOTE=Chill Out;1282572]Yes but according to other reports here, the take over by indians in terms of presence in the streets and businesses etc is recent. I can't confirm this as I wasn't hanging out in BKK 15 years ago, but that's what I read.[/QUOTE]I was here on and off since 20 years ago and I can't say that the change is that dramatic. Perhaps the Muslim and Sikh/Indian influence in the lower Sukhumvit odd numbered Sois has increased, but it was always there I think.

In general, Thais don't eat Indian food (at least the ones I know), but they will eat other types of food. When I was in Singapore I noticed that the Indians in IT only ate Indian food at the food courts. They didn't seem to want to try anything else. Possibly most were vegetarians.

[QUOTE=Iowaska; 1268642]Will also have to explore areas surrounding Bangkok for some fun, my friend went in the 90's and paid £80 and had 4 wgs for 8hrs fully at his disposal, what's the going rYe for services so I know I ain't Gona get ripped off?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Yes in the early 90s I remember getting a Soi Cowboy girl for all night for 400 Baht (10 Euros). Nowadays the bar-fine is higher than that. After a very long LT was very hard to get rid of her. She tended to show up to my Hotel uninvited. I also took 3 girls from Pussy Galore to Koh Chang for about 3 days for very low cost in early 90s. Two of three were included almost for free. One was a bit too butch for my taste but other two were hot. In those days Koh Chang was not developed, had no roads (only tracks) , and huge amounts of pot were being smoked since could be obtained very cheaply from Cambodia. 100 Baht for a big bag of seed heads and no police on the Island. I don't smoke at all so the gancha was a waste on me.

If your mate paid 80 pounds for 4 girls for 8 hours he may have been paying at least double the going rates, or more, in early 90s. :D Times have certainly changed. In old days it was very hard to justify sleeping alone when a naked sexy fuck buddy was so incredibly cheap. I also recall a newbie bar-girl from some where in the 90s that enjoyed the sex so much, that she kept waking me up during the night for another round. Don't seem to meet so many insatiable girls these days.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1282640]Thai language script (and Laos script) is influenced by Khmer script and maybe Sanskrit although Sanskrit appears to have no script of its own. While some Thai words are borrowed from Sanskrit and Pali languages, its a stretch to say that Thai comes from them. Modern Thai has probably more English related words than Pali words, excepting possibly in religious type of speach. I speak Thai, but when I hear Pali spoken by monks at the temple, I don't understand any of it at all. I can read it with no understanding since they use Thai script (a subset of it) , for convenience of the Thais.

Its really quite different to Thai and has a very limited vowel sound set compared to Thai. Basically it has A, U, and I sounds, both short and long, but E and O probably only short. Thai has over 20 vowel sounds.

I do understand a fair bit of the Laos language as its close to Thai and bits of some other dialects in the near regions.

I don't believe Pali and Thai are considerd to be in the same language families. Sanskrit and Pali are from the Indo-Aryan family according to Wikipedia (just checked) , but Thai is not.

Forms of Buddhism have spread to many countries, like the spread of Islam and Christianity. Is my home country (Christian dominant) influenced by Palestine / Israel? I don't like to think so.

Yes Thai culture is influenced by Buddhism, but they also believe in pagan spirits. The 5 main Buddhist precepts are broken happily by Thais on a daily basis. Mai Pen Rai[/QUOTE]1. Sanskrit is the mother of almost all languages including Latin.

2. Sanskrit was written in the Devnagari script. Most North Indian languages (except Urdu) are written in that script. Pali is a derivative of Sanskrit. BTW India has 24 major languages and over 1000 dialects.

3. If you look at Thai script is is very much the same as the Tamil script of South India (from where most Indians in earlier centuries went to Siam).

4. Indians were not brought to collect taxes. The Indian traders loaned money to the Thais and took their land as collateral. That's how they came to own so much land and the resentment of Thais.

5. Yes a lot of tailor shops are owned by Indians but also by bangladeshis and nepalese. Guess we all look the same, huh.

6. A large chunk of Thai names are of Indian origin.

7. Although Buddhism is by far the majority religion, you can see pockets where Hinduism is also followed.

[QUOTE=Kenny Rogers; 1250813]Hi Folks,

I remember some genial guy had posted places of action marked on Google maps some years ago (2009). Searched for that but couldn't find it. Does anyone know if its still online?

Thanks, Kenny[/QUOTE]It looks like its no longer fully maintained but things don't change that much, except perhaps the prices and girls:

[url]http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?msid=211157051689439137713.00044836624e9b986acc9&msa=0[/url]

[QUOTE=Duniawala;1282663]1. Sanskrit is the mother of almost all languages including Latin.[/QUOTE]You made some good points, but forgive me if I don't swallow that one, as a skeptical type.

[QUOTE]3. If you look at Thai script is is very much the same as the Tamil script of South India (from where most Indians in earlier centuries went to Siam).[/QUOTE]Yes Thai script is vaguely similar to Tamil but closer to Laos and Khmer scripts. Of course the languages were spoken long before they had any scripts at all. Scripts were an afterthought.

Quoting Wikipedia:

"The Thai alphabet is derived from the Old Khmer script (akkhara khamen) , which is a southern Brahmic style of writing called Vatteluttu. Vatteluttu was also commonly referred to as the Pallava script by scholars of Southeast Asian studies such as George Coedes.

According to tradition it was created in 1283 by King Ramkhamhaeng the Great "

I do know that many Thai words, especially Khmer influenced, are similar to some Indian language words. e.g. Wat Arun "The Temple of Dawn". Arun or a very similar word appears in some Indian languages, right? I recall meeting an Indian named Arun, I think. Arun is a not a commonly used Thai word, its more of a stylistic alternate one. Thai has borrowed words from several origins, including many English words. Khmer is one of the strongest due to Khmer dominance of the region in times long gone by. The Thai numbers sound very similar to some Cantonese numbers.