Angeles City

[QUOTE=WrinkleFree;1833975]Many thanks for the reply! I'm keeping my expectations pretty "even". Have never been in AC during "the peak" I won't know what I've been missing![/QUOTE]You might want to try Subic as well, a totally different place than AC and more economical than AC. If your not a beach person though you probably won't like it much.

[QUOTE=WrinkleFree;1833934]The only way to get an broad idea of what can happen in a given city with WGs / review of a certain hotel / restaurant is to have more reports and more details. Not everyone is a seasoned veteran with 20-30 yrs under their belt and living in SE Asia for weeks and months at a time.[/QUOTE]The thing with AC is that it only has about 2 blocks of monger use. So sure it is a city, but you will probably see only 2 blocks of it. And everyone walks everywhere. I usually stay at Central Park. It is only 1 block from Fields. Everything will come into view for you once you arrive. It is hard to get the total picture by only reading reports and looking at maps.[QUOTE=WrinkleFree;1833975]Many thanks for the reply! I'm keeping my expectations pretty "even". Have never been in AC during "the peak" I won't know what I've been missing![/QUOTE]That is a great attitude to have!

What is up with mongers wanting to walk down the street holding hands with their hookers? I was sitting at Kokomo's and watched a punter reach for his girl's hand. The girl clearly showed that she did not want to hold hands with him. However he literally forced this girl to hold his hand. Some of these cats are funny. Love and affection.

[QUOTE=WrinkleFree;1833975]Many thanks for the reply! I'm keeping my expectations pretty "even". Have never been in AC during "the peak" I won't know what I've been missing![/QUOTE]Some would say that Angeles City's peak was Pre Mt Pinatubo. Having been there then (1985-1990) I would have to agree. Totally nude dancing, sex shows. BJs right at your table. NO cell phones or computers. Total unfettered drunken debauchery. I am so thankful I have those memories. But its sad they can't be duplicated today.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1834163]What is up with mongers wanting to walk down the street holding hands with their hookers? I was sitting at Kokomo's and watched a punter reach for his girl's hand. The girl clearly showed that she did not want to hold hands with him. However he literally forced this girl to hold his hand. Some of these cats are funny. Love and affection.[/QUOTE]Its a part of the GFE.

[QUOTE=Streetlooker;1834181]Its a part of the GFE.[/QUOTE]Usually the ones that you can get from High Society are all with the hand holding and GFE.

Doesn't make him soft. He wanted what he paid for. It's his vacation and his money.

I personally prefer Blow Row find them fuck them forget them.

[QUOTE=WrinkleFree;1833934]I'm making my first trip ever to the Philippines next week (due to outside pressure I scraped my trip to Jakarta) and decided on Angeles City (over Manila) just due to the proximity of everything and partially because it's cheaper. But having read through 100 pages of this thread there are actually very few "trip reports". Most are debates on various subjects and confirmations that AC is very, very far from it's peak due to the raids from yrs ago and perhaps also due to the mongering 'market conditions'.

It makes me wonder if I should just switch to Manilia. ?

The one question I had was regarding walking around at night outside of Fields / walking street. I'm staying at the Central Park Tower Resort which appears to be very close to fields ave. Since it's so close do you think it would be a problem to walk with a girl at night to the hotel? Or do I need to take a trike?

(on a side note, as someone who likes to RTFF I would agree that more TRIP reports is always a good thing as every part of life is YMMV. The only way to get an broad idea of what can happen in a given city with WGs / review of a certain hotel / restaurant is to have more reports and more details. Not everyone is a seasoned veteran with 20-30 yrs under their belt and living in SE Asia for weeks and months at a time. Also as we have seen with various cities- things change. What was true in 2015 might be different now and trip reports can give people an idea of what can be "expected" but obviously you have to temper your expectations.).[/QUOTE]I was in the same situation, researching my own trip about 3 months ago. I had the same concerns, but in the end, chose differently then you. I decided to skip AC.

The reason? Threefold. First, there were too many people complaining about getting rejected by girls. Secondly, I read some reports about the lower state of hygene and overall presentation of the girls. Including several people mentioning head lice. They also uniformly agreed that the girls in Manila were just better looking. Thirdly, short on time. AC was too far. I wanted to spend some time seeing other areas of Manila and the PI. It seemed there were more things to do in Manila in the daytime.

How do I feel now that I am back? Overall pretty glad, though I do have this "itch" that I never saw AC. That being said, even though prices are lower in AC, I thought the attractiveness of the girls in Manila were just average overall. Definitely pretty girls here and there, but average overall. I wouldn't want to go a notch lower.

[QUOTE=Streetlooker;1834181]Its a part of the GFE.[/QUOTE]Correct, and holding hands in public, referred to in his post, should be part of the "Terms of Engagement" , sorted out back at the bar.

Possibly an appropriate time for a member to type out, on this thread, proposed "Terms of Engagement", to be used by hobbyists.

Then we could exercise our 'rights' viz: "But its in the Terms of Agreement, honey"!

[QUOTE=Manny51;1834188]I was in the same situation, researching my own trip about 3 months ago. I had the same concerns, but in the end, chose differently then you. I decided to skip AC.
Definitely pretty girls here and there, but average overall. I wouldn't want to go a notch lower.[/QUOTE]I agree skip AC. Stick with Manila. No doubt about that.

AC is all about quantity. If you have 2 to 5 days to spend don't venture outside Manila.

1. No traffic.

2. Lots of choice and lots of interesting characters.

3. Easy to find good food.

4. Cleaner.

5. Same Hotel room in angeles is 20% cheaper.

6. There are some good people there!

But for the most part it is pros only!

PP.

[QUOTE=Streetlooker;1834173]Some would say that Angeles City's peak was Pre Mt Pinatubo. Having been there then (1985-1990) I would have to agree. Totally nude dancing, sex shows. BJs right at your table. NO cell phones or computers. Total unfettered drunken debauchery. I am so thankful I have those memories. But its sad they can't be duplicated today.[/QUOTE]I did not see angeles till the mid 90's,but even then all the things you describe were the same.

,I too think back at those memories with a big smile on my face, and yes angeles of today is alas a shadow of what it once was.

[QUOTE=MSClive;1834203]I agree skip AC. Stick with Manila. No doubt about that.

AC is all about quantity. If you have 2 to 5 days to spend don't venture outside Manila.[/QUOTE]Have to fully agree.

Would say that if one wants a quantity of mainly plain looking girls then there are plenty in AC.

If one wants many more pretty/ slimmer girls then Manila is your place although more expensive.

As for the guys claiming the food is good in angeles I would say this, The food sucks badly in both angeles and manila.

[QUOTE=Streetlooker;1834173]Some would say that Angeles City's peak was Pre Mt Pinatubo. Having been there then (1985-1990) I would have to agree. Totally nude dancing, sex shows. BJs right at your table. NO cell phones or computers. Total unfettered drunken debauchery. I am so thankful I have those memories. But its sad they can't be duplicated today.[/QUOTE]I have only been going there for 10 years. I have heard the stories of pre 2006 and pre pinatubo and they have some allure. I wasnt there so I can't comment directly. I'm not a prude but I don't have much interest in watching some monger getting his junk serviced in a public place. Also I like the more recent development that the girls have choices and can turn you down. Seems alot more safe and appreciative of their services.

I have been in the bars when the guys are grappling the the girls in public over the past decade, obviously not like days of yore but I'm not impressed. I'm not an orgy kind of guy. Half the time the girls are somewhat horrified and the many of the guys look like ogres and and would not want to be thier sloppy seconds the following night.

I am not crapping on your memories streetlooker I am sure they are great.

My favorite part of AC the past 10 years is you can find a very sweet young girl at a bar to go with you for a GFE 18 to 24.

For me now is the golden age.

The prices are higher no doubt but still 40 to 50% of crazy Makati prices as best can ascertain. I pay less than I did 10 years ago in P burgos bars at the end of the day. I can still attract the young ones some how. Hell it may not last very much longer I am aging. I love the fresh province girls I don't need some expert prostitute. The young Pinays are malleable like fresh clay and can be trained quick.

In AC bars 2016 you can still get the freshest cream of the crop from the visayas Samar, Leyte Biliran etc but its may take a little more exploration 2 to 3 more bars and a few more beers or bottled waters.

We all were more successful when we were young but my focus is moving forward. The available pussy is literally found no where else in the english speaking world at the price offered.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1834122]The thing with AC is that it only has about 2 blocks of monger use. So sure it is a city, but you will probably see only 2 blocks of it. And everyone walks everywhere. I usually stay at Central Park. It is only 1 block from Fields. Everything will come into view for you once you arrive. It is hard to get the total picture by only reading reports and looking at maps.That is a great attitude to have![/QUOTE]Mr E that's kindy of silly advice. If you are 'usually in central park' its barely a 1 year old hotel. Usually takes more time than that to be a settler. Its an overpriced hotel by any standards. If you have a company expense account then god bless you and good luck. It was barely finished this year.

AC bars have expanded to a huge radius beyond fields. Your characterization is very limited. AC bars stretch far and wide beyond where they used to be.

[QUOTE=IllusionHeart;1832960]I came across this posting on an AC thread on FB. Another one bites the dust.[/QUOTE]Fear not all you doom boosters out there, Phillies is not biting the dust. It is being sold to dissolve a partnership. Don't know how much but it will be plenty.