Cali Reports

[QUOTE=Catire]Have come to believe casas suck. A taxista confirmed for me how these places are all set up because they are all set up the same way. Any lists, secret lists and secret places, places to share, etc etc etc this fucking makes me laugh. really really laugh. Casas de cita (what Colombians call them) are probably the most developed industry in this city. There are probably at least a hundred of them, probably more.

(A Catire quote from a post 4-1-07) I have not prowled thru the casas at all, merely stuck my head in a couple of times and only to about five thus far, with frankly little to no desire to go beyond that number.[/QUOTE]

Catire,

You have merely stuck your head into FIVE casas and you think ALL Cali Casas suck because some taxi driver told you they are all the same? Well my friend, it is me who is laughing because I have been to/explored/fucked at/been very pleased with/been quite disgusted with etc... about 70 Casas de Cita in Cali thus far. I can say from EXPERIENCE that there are some Casas that are VERY different than what you have seen. I also came across a few Casas that VERY FEW GINGOS even know of and a couple of places (not Casas per say) are so new that NO GRINGOS had ever been to them before my Gringo ass graced their doorway.



[QUOTE=Cachorro] I am pretty sure Casa de Marquez got assimilated into Dr. Amor some time ago.[/QUOTE]

Cachorro,

From talking to one of the maids at Dr. Amor, you are right that Casa de Marquez was the name used about 4 years ago.


[QUOTE=Col Bog 1]This afternoon, I managed to be free at 4:30pm.

So I left my hotel and asked the taxi driver to take me to the Clinica del Dr Amor (Ave 2N 23-xx).

After some difficulty, he finally found it and I got in the place.[/QUOTE]

Col Bog 1,

Your difficulty in finding Dr. Amor's was because the address is NOT Ave 2N 23-xx. The address is Ave 2A Norte #23-33. The "A" after the number (Ave 2) makes it a totally different street location.

I'm glad you were pleased at Calle 23aN 2N-95. By the way the name of this place is "Ropa de Bebe". The gay gentleman that served you is my friend. He will make every effort to match you up with a girl that does hat you are looking for. Yes sometimes they lack great looks but none are ever doggy. I have had plenty of BBBJ's there but do not prefer anal and I don't DATY in high traffic Casas no matter how good the pussy looks like.


Here's one at Ropa de Bebe that gave excellent BBBJ and after a while went bare back all the way, tight pussy as well.


Cheers,


Cubanut

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Catire,

You have merely stuck your head into FIVE casas and you think ALL Cali Casas suck because some taxi driver told you they are all the same? Well my friend, it is me who is laughing because I have been to/explored/fucked at/been very pleased with/been quite disgusted with etc... about 70 Casas de Cita in Cali thus far. I can say from EXPERIENCE that there are some Casas that are VERY different than what you have seen. I also came asorss a few Casas that VERY FEW GINGOS even know of and a couple of places (not Casas per say) are so new that NO GRINGOS had ever been to them before my Gringo ass graced their doorway.

Cubanut[/QUOTE]

I´m probably up to 10-12 now and I am pretty sure it won´t be any more.

I NEVER said they are all the same, I said the "setup" is the same (bunch of girls come over offer their hand, say their name and then leave to sit in a corner among themselves). You seem to have missed my POINT entirely, which is how I personally strongly prefer a little interplay/interaction between myself and a girl even BEFORE I call her over. This is called "salesmanship", some of the girls are very good at it, but a trained eye can typically spot the fake (though some of the girls are so good it almost doesn´t matter LOL ), and more often than not, you find yourself a girl who actually is interested in you for other reasons than your monger money (she already knows she´s going to get paid, it´s icing on the cake) , you can establish some "chemistry" before taking her into a room and then the odds are in your favor.


This happens all the time for e.g. in a place like a Rio termas, and needless to say, pricing aside, the Rio termas experience is highly superior to a Cali casa experience in every way.

sure the settings and even the talent and the pricing, etc will differ among so many casas. And of course, it also depends on the DAY in question because rarely does a girl work every night.

but my BASIC point is it does NOT MATTER, because the "set up" is the SAME.
all over the place, essentially. You are a number, they are a number and you are rolling dice. Perhaps it´s the "true monger´s" dream because under this scenario every john is the same, you are an appendage and ATM and they are a hole, and you can put up reviews, etc etc (even though this is basically bs as well)

the so called "gringo factor" also does NOT MATTER, because the vast majority in all of these casas, even the ones most frequented by gringos of the clientele is COLOMBIAN and of course the set up and the experience is set up for Colombian tastes. So frankly, who really gives a shit that you have been to some casas no gringos have been to? and how are they different in the setup I talk about? they are not. Interestingly enough the times I have stuck my head into some of these casas, including some in the south that have never been mentioned anywhere, I have yet to see a gringo, probably because I stick my head in there late evening or at night. If that is something that is so important for someone, simply learn to say in Spanish to a taxista, take me to places I´ll never find a gringo, and voila. If you your Spanish is good enough to converse and indicate what you are looking for, you will find someone to take you where and for what you are looking for.

a good example would be the one time I stuck my head into Clinica de Amor one late afternoon. The place was fairly full and there was not a SINGLE gringo there btw (though this may be one of the most popular gringo visited casas). Guess what? The kid working there quickly ascertained I spoke Spanish, took me aside and did a full blown explanation for me for more than 10 mins , almost acting like a "papasan", telling me all I have to do is tell him what I am looking for (bbbj, anal for e.g.) and he will tell me which girls do this, as well as just overall recommendations, takeout, etc. etc you name it. Despite the fact I usually strongly eschew so called mamasans and papasans, tthis was done in such a non stressful and non sleazy manner, I actually appreciated it. It was almost like having a buddy kind of showing you the ropes. So you see it´s really not rocket science, all you need to know is to speak Spanish.

but good luck with your casa scouring, perhaps you´ll be able to publish a casa guide for idiots and make some money off it. There most certainly are suckers born every minute.

p.s. David33, you are most certainly correct. I am sure if I had nothing to do but get to know various casa girls I could build up an impressive black book for housecalls. But this will take time, effort and some luck. (certainly one can get lucky early on, in fact my first time in a casa I encountered a girl who was there for her 2nd night and had yet to be with a "john". I smelled her out a mile away and of course I spent an hour with her, it was highly worthwhile. If I return here for a longer term stay as I am considering I may even try that approach.

[QUOTE=Cachorro]Col Bog, thanks for the report.-

I am pretty sure Casa de Marquez got assimilated into Dr Amor some time ago. They have a couple of houses joined together at Dr Amor... I think the second house used to be CdM.[/QUOTE]Hi Cachorro.

Yes, I have been told the same.

Dr Amor absorbed the neighbours houses including CdM.

I noted the address in a good post that gives Cali's best place addresses and it would be good if someone could update that information.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Col Bog 1,

Your difficulty in finding Dr. Amor's was because the address is NOT Ave 2N 23-xx. The address is Ave 2A Norte #23-33. The "A" after the number (Ave 2) makes it a totally different street location.

I'm glad you were pleased at Calle 23aN 2N-95. By the way the name of this place is "Ropa de Bebe". The gay gentleman that served you is my friend. He will make every effort to match you up with a girl that does hat you are looking for. Yes sometimes they lack great looks but none are ever doggy. I have had plenty of BBBJ's there but do not prefer anal and I don't DATY in high traffic Casas no matter how good the pussy looks like.

Here's one at Ropa de Bebe that gave excellent BBBJ and after a while went bare back all the way, tight pussy as well.

Cheers,

Cubanut[/QUOTE]Hi Cubanut.

I wrote Ave 2N 23-xx because I didn't had the exact address, but when you have both Ave and Calle, you may found a place even if it has no sign on its door if you're lucky.

But in that case I took no chance and said to my Taxi's driver that I was going to Dr Amor's clinic, and, as it was said in some other posts, all taxis known the place. Even if mine had some trouble to remember.

For the Ave 2 and 2A, yes, I know that it means (usually) the next carrera. In fact, I was able to find the Ave 2A, but it stopped at calle 23 and didn't exist anymore in higher Calle.

I walked around the block 3 times, and saw some more places with girls on Ave 2 but they were very lowscale.

If you walk one block to the right of Dr Amor's clinic, you find Farahon's club that is only opened at night.

I was impressed of the quality and quantity of the girls at Ropa de Bebe.

I noticed that the gentleman (as you said) was a Gay and he really helped me advising me well.

I'm surprise that you don't DATY but perform BBFS.

What's the logic?

I'm just crazy about DATY and anal and can't resist sucking off a nice pussy and ass, don't know why, but I'm like that.

But I try (I fail some times) to resist going BBFS, look like much more risky.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Catire]I´m probably up to 10-12 now and I am pretty sure it won´t be any more.

I NEVER said they are all the same, I said the "setup" is the same (bunch of girls come over offer their hand, say their name and then leave to sit in a corner among themselves). You seem to have missed my POINT entirely, which is how I personally strongly prefer a little interplay/interaction between myself and a girl even BEFORE I call her over. This is called "salesmanship", some of the girls are very good at it, but a trained eye can typically spot the fake (though some of the girls are so good it almost doesn´t matter LOL ), and more often than not, you find yourself a girl who actually is interested in you for other reasons than your monger money (she already knows she´s going to get paid, it´s icing on the cake) , you can establish some "chemistry" before taking her into a room and then the odds are in your favor.

This happens all the time for e.g. in a place like a Rio termas, and needless to say, pricing aside, the Rio termas experience is highly superior to a Cali casa experience in every way.[/QUOTE]


Catire,

Stop it!, Please, I'm hurting myself cracking up laughing! You actually think the "Setup" is all the same as well? Well "yeah", if all you do is tell a taxi driver to take you to "Casas" what did you expect?

Do you really think Rio termas are the only places where a monger can smell out a girl first before making a decision to be intimate? Believe me I know a thing or two about Rio termas since I have been going to Rio as well for over 14 years now.

Apparently or actually (to be more precise) you definitely missed MY POINT. There are MANY places where you can sit and talk/dance/drink with girls for a short or long while before deciding to do the deed. These were the places i found that were not really "Casas" per say. I found Night Clubs that are not even advertised because the "in the know" clientel is more than sufficient to support the number of chicas that work there. Also like I said before I even found a couple of places that are trying some "new concepts" and I must say I was very pleased.

For example: Here's one concept that is different than the regular "setup". I found a place that specializes in orgies. You enter as a couple to get in. Oh yeah, if you don't have a girl to make up your couple, you can rent one on the spot that will be happy to participate in the cum-fest!

The point I was really making was that you are making general assumptions about mongering in Cali based on very little first hand experience.



[QUOTE=Barefoot Chap]Cubanut has never been to Colombia and made love to a non-pro.[/QUOTE]

Barefoot Chap,

Assuming that by non-pro you mean a girl that can potentially be a "true love", this is absolutely correct. I'll repeat what I have written before on this board and many others for YEARS now: I am in no way interested in finding a "true love". I did all my "free loving" throughout the 80's and early 90's and am way beyond that now. I like the no time/no effort of mongering to bed down with many rather than long time ass kissing to bed down with one.

However, although making love to a non-pro is of no interest to me, I do have many non-pro Colombianas that I party with or just sometimes just hang with. I prefer it this way.

[QUOTE=Barefoot Chap]Natalia went to cartagena with us and she didin't charge anything then. From what I hear they all are p4p now. It just makes sense to charge as long as there are men willing to pay. I never pulled out a penny for them directly, but did buy lots of dinners, plane tickets, bathing suits, ron de medellin, clothes........It costs more but it is the way I like it.[/QUOTE]

So Barefoot Chap, I guess this means you haven't made love to a non-pro in Colombia either. It seems you just like paying a lot more for your pussy than I do.


[QUOTE=Barefoot Chap]Sorry for the flame but it is true and it irritates me when he (Cubanut) writes his little love letters and quotes. I blame him and his two left feet and lack of Spanish for ruining Cuba. Actually, Cuba is really nice but that is for another day.[/QUOTE]

Huh? (Ok I admit you got me scratching my head on this one.) The last time I looked down I had a right and left foot. Also I can't remember the last time any native Spanish speaker did not think I was fluent in Spanish. And as for ME ruining Cuba? Well, Barefoot, I don't know what your "on" but whatever it is, it's obviously not good for you.


[QUOTE=Barefoot Chap]I will always book trips to places without so many gringos because I like the adventure. Viva Colombia! I also have a lot of respect for other global travelers willing to explore the not so explored.[/QUOTE]

Funny that you should say this but yet have no respect for "yours truly" being one of those who travels the globe to explore the not so explored.


[QUOTE=Barefoot Chap]I have never been to Cali but last night I banged a 24 year old Cali girl living in the states. Well I don't see any reason for me to go to Colombia anytime soon as there are so many Colombians here in the states. Why go to colombia when colombia can come to you?[/QUOTE]

So Barefoot Chap, you have never been to Cali yet you go out of your way to flame me out here on the Cali Reports thread? For what reason may I ask?



Cheers,


Cubanut

[QUOTE=Master Yoda]Ricker,

Sometimes I wonder if its even worth going to Cali.

I mean there is a good chance nothing will happen but its just the fact the women are so damn hot.

Is Cali your favorite town?[/QUOTE]


Every city I go to in Colombia the chicas are hot! :)

My favorite city for walking about and exploring is Medellin, for a party is Cali and for meeting non-pro chicas is Barranquilla (I love las costenitas!)

Of course I find the Paisitas of Medellin pretty, but I personally prefer the darker skin and the rear-ends of the costenas :) Just my own preference.
Also, I've had several Paisa girlfriends and can anyone say "mucha drama" ... drama filled in my experience.

Cali, without a doubt, feels the most dangerous.
I don't walk around afraid, but I definitely keep my guard up a bit more.

Here's a little Calena I met a while back.

Suerte!

[QUOTE=Barefoot Chap]Cubanut, Sorry about wasting your time! I just knew you would go through the forum for hours trying to find my posts so you could counter. You should try to post relavent information. Since this forum is your social life I think you should do a report on the close proximity of the pacific coastline to Cali and how we as Americans can profit by developing or discoveriing the beaches there. Obviously the colombians have no interest in it. Given the prices of pacific coast properties in the USA, Costa Rica, Panama, Mexico, Canada.......I have to be on to something. I want more than just pussy reports. The following should sum it up and end all reports on pussy....There are girls in colombia, you'll get laid for sure in colombia, you shouldn't have to pay for it, they should pay us. Now instead of talking about dark rooms with poor colombians lets talk about bright and sunny rooms with hot colombians in your future cubanut mansion on the pacific! I need to be more engaged than this forum is offering at the moment.[/QUOTE]


Barefoot Chap,

Actually it only took about 5 minutes because most of what you write is self contradicting, so I had a lot to choose from.

I don't know why you would think I would be interesed in "coastal property" but if that is your thing and you say you "must be onto something" then run with it brother. I could care less for beach.

I do like where you say the the chicas should be paying us for sex but that is not a reality my friend.

As for your idea for everyone to end all reports on pussy: Why? Why does it bother you that men write reports on pussy? This is a Report Thread in case you haven't noticed. Your ramblings belong elsewhere.

Oh wait, I know the solution, it's quite obvious:

ATTENTION JACKSON! I hereby respectfully request that you grant Barefoot Chap his own Thread so that he (Barefoot Chap) may share his wonderful experiences of NOT going to Colombia with us. Afterall it will not use up much band width since there will be absolutely no talk of pussy on Barefoot Chap's thread. However I'm sure it will serve all well to tell us where to find the nicest seashells.


Cheers,


Cubanut


PS. Here's a Bright and Sunny room for you with a not so poor Colombiana.

I saw it there, read it, now its gone!

[QUOTE=Ricker]Every city I go to in Colombia the chicas are hot! :)

My favorite city for walking about and exploring is Medellin, for a party is Cali and for meeting non-pro chicas is Barranquilla (I love las costenitas!)

Of course I find the Paisitas of Medellin pretty, but I personally prefer the darker skin and the rear-ends of the costenas :) Just my own preference.
Also, I've had several Paisa girlfriends and can anyone say "mucha drama" ... drama filled in my experience.

Cali, without a doubt, feels the most dangerous.
I don't walk around afraid, but I definitely keep my guard up a bit more.

Here's a little Calena I met a while back.

Suerte![/QUOTE] I like Cali too as well as BAQ. I am not really interested in Medellin either. I mean I am sure the women are hot but like you I prefer the Morena y Triguena look which seems to be mostly in BAQ and Cali. Med has lots of blancas.

The problem with Cali is most women I speak to seem to online, that are from Cali, already have kids, which is a little fucked up. I have a hard time finding childless pussy.

I just don't like damaged goods. The pussy just isn't as tight

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Catire,

Stop it!, Please, I'm hurting myself cracking up laughing! You actually think the "Setup" is all the same as well? Well "yeah", if all you do is tell a taxi driver to take you to "Casas" what did you expect?

Do you really think Rio termas are the only places where a monger can smell out a girl first before making a decision to be intimate? Believe me I know a thing or two about Rio termas since I have been going to Rio as well for over 14 years now.

Apparently or actually (to be more precise) you definitely missed MY POINT. There are MANY places where you can sit and talk/dance/drink with girls for a short or long while before deciding to do the deed. These were the places i found that were not really "Casas" per say. I found Night Clubs that are not even advertised because the "in the know" clientel is more than sufficient to support the number of chicas that work there. Also like I said before I even found a couple of places that are trying some "new concepts" and I must say I was very pleased.

For example: Here's one concept that is different than the regular "setup". I found a place that specializes in orgies. You enter as a couple to get in. Oh yeah, if you don't have a girl to make up your couple, you can rent one on the spot that will be happy to participate in the cum-fest!

The point I was really making was that you are making general assumptions about mongering in Cali based on very little first hand experience.

Cubanut[/QUOTE]


Dude, please.

yes, my first hand "mongering experience" isn´t nearly as extensive as yours and that is entirely by choice and will continue to be that way as I don´t travel merely to fuck, but my assumptions aren´t incorrect in what I was talking about. I can usually find out thru conversation in any environment with several people precisely what such an environment and others like it are like. Since I´m a curious sort, I tend to have such conversations, and more so with the girls, for eg. than taxistas.

I told the taxista PRECISELY what I was looking for and I told him PRECISELY what I do not like about the typical casa setup etc. Though I will make errors in my Spanish, a source of continuous frustration, I never ever ever have any problems with communication, specific communication or even having a fairly detailed argument about something. He merely confirmed to me even while taking me to a casa with a different "ambiance" that the basic setup is the same.

and of course I am citing rather extreme examples and metaphors to make a point, though I stand by that point. I have had girls come up to me and talk to me, even in a casa, my point is this is definitely the exception rather than the rule.

I know about your "nightclubs" too. It would be the "mongering ambiance" of my preference where you do get the interplay, etc. They are to be found on Carrera Quince. There are lots of them. What I don´t like about them are the high take out multas, I don´t like to fuck "in house" and on a clock. It might be fairly dangerous for a tourist to go there though so do so at your own risk.

I should probably in fairness also point out I have a definite issue to fucking something that has already been fucked several times, or many more that very same day (even in a rio terma) which is an issue with casa and I don´t fuck during the day, so I won´t try stunts like being the first one there when they open, etc.

I also know about your swinger´s club. They advertise regularly in ElPais in the adults classified section.

so what else are you going to tell me in great secrecy , oh great " first hand monger researcher"?

if you think you have stumbled upon the concept of "getting away from the gringos", you are sadly mistaken, I would be Chairman of the Board or at least on the Board of Directors of any such organization, especially when it comes to sex tourist related activities (as a rule of thumb you won`t find me within 300 yards of a place like Medellin Mansion or any such facsimile)

but please, don´t mind me, carry on with your "research", I am sure many here appreciate it and I´d hate to deflate your raison d' etre.


on the point of "gringos fucking things up", etc, as much as I basically agree with the concept, I still don´t see a single shred of evidence that this has changed the Cali P4P scene in any way shape or form. Even in the most popular gringo visited establishments, the overwhelming majority of the clientele is and remains Colombian. Ergo, no shred of evidence to support this hypothesis, as much as I´d like to support it. What´s interesting is that during my stay here thus far I have bumped into very few gringos/extranjeros period, and most of them have been of the backpacker LP variety.

you learn more "jerga" (aka slang) hanging out with the guys, but I have been limited to hanging out with the girls.

I´ve noticed they incessantly use the word "marica" to refer to each other during conversations. It seems this is the Colombiana equivalent of the way black and or urban girls or homosexual men will use the word "girl" or "girlfriend" sprinkled in within a conversation.

not sure if this is limited to Cali, you may want to try it on the coast. (actually you can´t, it´s limited to girl on girl talk, but run it by your gf)

the male equivalent, though there are several (kind of like saying "dude") is parse (accent on the e) and especially among the military, exmilitary, it is lansa.

still feel weird being called mono, as monkey immediately comes to mind LOL

[QUOTE=Catire]I also know about your swinger´s club. They advertise regularly in ElPais in the adults classified section. I also know about your "nightclubs" too. They are to be found on Carrera Quince.

If you think you have stumbled upon the concept of "getting away from the gringos", you are sadly mistaken, I would be Chairman of the Board or at least on the Board of Directors of any such organization, especially when it comes to sex tourist related activities (as a rule of thumb you won`t find me within 300 yards of a place like Medellin Mansion or any such facsimile)[/QUOTE]

Catire,

Oh boy, this is really getting old so this will be my last post in response "Mr. Chairman". Really now what is it that is pissing off here that you think you have to prove you have the pulse of the city of Cali? Wait, don't answer cause don't care.

BTW- The one adverised in th El Pais is the one I was refering to in my last post but there is one swingers club I found through a chica that does not advertise anywhere, good luck finding that one since it is only by word of mouth.

Also, the night clubs I spoke of are not the ones on Carrera Quince (like Las Profesionales). No my friend but funny thing is that I found this particular nightclub through the street vender outside of Las Profesionales. You see my friend I ask and ask and ask everyone I meet at such places "where are the hidden places" (in Spanish of course). In all fairness 80 percent of the places were not in fact unkowns and of the 20 percent that were unkown, were bland to awful but then you are left with th 10 percent that really makes it all worth while.

[QUOTE=Catire]I should probably in fairness also point out I have a definite issue to fucking something that has already been fucked several times, or many more that very same day (even in a rio terma) which is an issue with casa and I don´t fuck during the day, so I won´t try stunts like being the first one there when they open, etc.[/QUOTE]

What you need to do my friend is to work on a non-pro girlfriend and leave the serious mongering to those with lesser hangups.

[QUOTE=Catire]but please, don´t mind me, carry on with your "research", I am sure many here appreciate it and I´d hate to deflate your raison d' etre.[/QUOTE]

Why that is actually the nicest thing you could have said. Yes, it is true that finding beautiful pussy to fuck is my raison d' etre (reason to exist). I'm sorry for you that it is not yours.

"Maintenant soyez un bon petit garçon et sortez pour jouer"


Cheers,



Cubanut

yes, I will leave you to DOO your "serious mongering" in Spanish "any Colombian would recognize as fluent". (hint, Profesionales as a plural would have to be Las Profesionales, which it indeed is)

this should keep me chuckling all night long.

It should keep you busy for a very long time because I should have said that P4P is the most developed industry in this city, not just casas de cita. We haven´t even touched on all the spas that include full service and I have seen SW´s in the south as well.

but you don´t even need to search side streets and seek special swinger clubs, you can DOO what one guy did in this thread some time back, which was walk up to some women in a market and bluntly (though I actually do not know how blunt or circumspect he was) offer them say 50K for a new "beautiful pussy" (which will tend to be more new and "beautiful" than one getting fucked tens of times daily in your normal P4P places that you constantly seek).

In a city where most people make the minimum wage of 400K (200 US) a month, your batting average should be better than Barry Bonds´.

we´ll stay abreast of how you are dooing.

and really, don´t feel sorry for me. LOL.

[QUOTE=Catire] ... on the point of "gringos fucking things up", etc, as much as I basically agree with the concept, I still don´t see a single shred of evidence that this has changed the Cali P4P scene in any way shape or form. Even in the most popular gringo visited establishments, the overwhelming majority of the clientele is and remains Colombian. Ergo, no shred of evidence to support this hypothesis, as much as I´d like to support it. What´s interesting is that during my stay here thus far I have bumped into very few gringos/extranjeros period, and most of them have been of the backpacker LP variety ... [/QUOTE]

Si senor ... the gringo city of choice these days is not Cali, it's Medellin by far.