Angeles City

[QUOTE=Pantot;1839040]Bending down while on the sitting does not expose your ass pockets in anyway. At 95 kilos you should know this. You cannot raise your ass more than 1 milimeter. It is wedged up against the back of the crude jeep communal bench. Reading things on the net and then claiming it was your friend kills your credibility. I am 80 kilos so smaller than you and I cannot imagine the actual physical possiblity of a razor attack on me un noticed while I'm sitting as you say.

I seriously doubt your have ever been in a jeep to say these things. Most foriegners haven't. If you haven't that's fine and no crime but just stick to personal experiences here and not hearsay and net reports as there are so many people who have first hand experiences that can seperate the fact from paranoia. Crimes would be simple snatches of carry on items jewelry bags on the floor hand held etc.

Ok sorry for being too harsh here in that aspect. I apologize..[/QUOTE]Pantot, please read fully what me and other board members have posted before replying.

I have clearly stated I have been on jeepneys many times, I have clearly stated that I had clear knowledge my friend had been pickpocketed on the jeepney by having his pocket cut,(it 100% happened regardless of what you claim)

I then separately stated that if you were an unbeleiver that pickpockets target jeepneys then there were many reports on the net / boards of guys saying they have been pick pocketed on jeepneys.

Please show me where I first read reports on the net and then claimed it was my friend, the two are totally separate if you had cared to read.

please feel free to continue to reply to my posts but please read what I have actually said before you reply and wrongly accuse,thanks

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1839047]Best for me is the ankle pouches, under long trousers. So long as the pouch does not show, when you sit down (eg Jeepney). This of course rules out shorts, LOL. In Papillon the guy placed his money in a stainless steel cylinder, which he then inserted in his asshole. Anyone for that one?

I have used money belts before, but don't like wearing belts, so that one didn't last long.[/QUOTE]Sxxxx, although I like to protect my money a steel tube in my ass may be a step too far LOL.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1839523]Pantot, please read fully what me and other board members have posted before replying.

I have clearly stated I have been on jeepneys many times, I have clearly stated that I had clear knowledge my friend had been pickpocketed on the jeepney by having his pocket cut,(it 100% happened regardless of what you claim)

I then separately stated that if you were an unbeleiver that pickpockets target jeepneys then there were many reports on the net / boards of guys saying they have been pick pocketed on jeepneys.

Please show me where I first read reports on the net and then claimed it was my friend, the two are totally separate if you had cared to read.

please feel free to continue to reply to my posts but please read what I have actually said before you reply and wrongly accuse,thanks[/QUOTE]Half or more of the women I know have claimed to have lost a phone or purse on a Jeepney. My GF back was stolen from us in a McDonalds in Makati WHILE WE SAT AT THE TABLE, we were shocked and there was a Security guard 18 feet away.

Shit happens here!

Be prepared!

PP.

1. Bring 2 Credit cards never carry then together.

2. Empty your wallet of the useless cards Costco, Scene etc BEFORE you come here.

3. Carry 2 k in your wallet the other cash in your front pocket.

4. No exposed jewellery, your nipple rings are ok, I got my necklace grabbed in Pasay.

5. don't get drunk (I never do in a foreign land) and if your drunk take a cab. Have some one you TRUST with you. 75% of trouble starts with drinking to much. Trust me you don't need liquid courage to get laid here and everything is better sober!

6. Order and install my KidnappedApp which can protect you in case you are abducted. [URL]www.kidnappedapp.com[/URL] [URL]https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kidnappedapp.kidnapp[/URL].

Good luck be nice stay sober and FUCK YOUR WAY TO GOOD health.

PP.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1839533]Sxxxx, although I like to protect my money a steel tube in my ass may be a step too far LOL.[/QUOTE]To execute that one, you need 'steely resolve' , LOL.

[QUOTE=Pinaypounder;1839921]Half or more of the women I know have claimed to have lost a phone or purse on a Jeepney. My GF back was stolen from us in a McDonalds in Makati WHILE WE SAT AT THE TABLE, we were shocked and there was a Security guard 18 feet away.

Shit happens here!

Be prepared!

PP.[/QUOTE]Exactly.

Not that any Pinays read ISG but the main danger in jeeps is of snatch and grab stuff you expose that they can simply swipe and run out the back. If I or laid my bag of serious valuables on the jeep floor or started counting my 1000 pesos notes while licking my fingers and a wiry little 90 pound kid grabbed it and ran, It would be gone forever. I could never catch them in 1 time out of 1000.

If your valuables are in your front pockets you are fine. Every experienced ISG voice on this board noted that was his practice. All of us who admitted to many jeep experiences, None of us have ever noted a problem on a jeep in this latest discussion.

Every story of jeep horror stories in Angeles (? Maybe its never specified) occurs to some one I know or girl who lost the cell maybe the guy paid for. No girl I ever bought a cheap cellphone for ever dropped it in a puddle or left it somewhere or ever had the nephew fling it across the room and kill it or had it stolen by a cousin. It was always snatched! In public by a stranger.

I doubt many mongers carry man purses on jeeps those of you who do. Stop it. You are warned!

I have yet to hear one first person account here of any monger who had his valuables extracted from his core front man pockets while seated on a jeep. This is 3rd world travel 101.

As was noted if you are hammered don't take a jeep. The tight confines will make you bump your head and step on passengers feet entering and exiting much less make you are target of opportunity.

I am not saying jeeps are oasis of safety in the Phils. But they are safer than the streets. Your main exposure is entering or exciting of your ass or side pockets. Your front pockets are so secure in any jeep due to the crouched nature of it. Its not a bus. I am 5'10 and I can't sit completely upright in most AC jeeps. In province jeeps or multicabs sometimes they have headroom. The tight nature makes our core secure while exposing the relatively tiny locals I. E our girls to true 'pick pockets' who literally pick thier body pockets which they can due to them as opposed to us whom rather they can only grab our openly exposed valuables.

This AC jeep paranoia for us mongers is wildly overblown I'm sorry. The street is your most open place to be taken advantage of of by far.

And in addition as far as safety is concerned I will for once refer to anecdotal evidence of the girls over many years. I break my rule of trying to provide first hand accounts only as evidence to you guys but when ever I notice a large scar on a girls legs etc that's noticeable usually the response is 'trike accident' I don't recall many if any answer of 'jeep accident' though I am sure they occur and of them all log in millions of more hours of both modes than any of us and Jeep mileage for the poor bar girls over their young lives outnumber trike mileage by a factor of 10 or 100 or a 1000.

Don't get me started on exhaust fumes at trike street level as well I crowded streets especially.

[QUOTE=Pantot;1840033]Exactly.

Not that any Pinays read ISG but the main danger in jeeps is of snatch and grab stuff you expose that they can simply swipe and run out the back. If I or laid my bag of serious valuables on the jeep floor or started counting my 1000 pesos notes while licking my fingers and a wiry little 90 pound kid grabbed it and ran, It would be gone forever. I could never catch them in 1 time out of 1000.

If your valuables are in your front pockets you are fine. Every experienced ISG voice on this board noted that was his practice. All of us who admtted to many jeep experiences, None of us have ever noted a problem on a jeep in this latest discussion.

Every story of jeep horror stories in angeles (? Maybe its never specified) occurs to some one I know or girl who lost the cell maybe the guy paid for. No girl I ever bought a cheap cellfone for ever dropped it in a puddle or left it somewhere or ever had the nephew fling it across th romm and kill it or had it stolen by a cousin. It was always snatched! In public by a stranger.

I doubt many mongers carry man purses on jeeps those of you who do. Stop it. You are warned!

I have yet to hear one first person account here of any monger who had his valuables extracted from his core front man pockets while seated on a jeep. This is 3rd world travel 101.

As was noted if you are hammered don't take a jeep. The tight confines will make you bump your head and step on passengers feet entering and exiting much less make you are target of opportunity.

I am not saying jeeps are oasis of safety in the Phils. But they are safer than the streets. Your main exposure is entering or exciting of your ass or side pockets. Your front pockets are so secure in any jeep due to the crouched nature of it. Its not a bus. I am 5'10 and I can't sit completely upright in most AC jeeps. In province jeeps or multicabs sometimes they have headroom. The tight nature makes our core secure while exposing the relatively tiny locals I. E our girls to true 'pick pockets' who literally pick thier body pockets which they can due to them as opposed to us whom rather they can only grab our openly exposed valuables.

This AC jeep paranoia for us mongers is wildly overblown I'm sorry. The street is your most open place to be taken advantage of of by far.

And in addition as far as safety is concerned I will for once refer to anectdotal evidence of the girls over many years. I break my rule of trying to provide first hand accounts only as evidence to you guys but when ever I notice a large scar on a girls legs etc that's noticeable usually the response is 'trike accident' I don't recall many if any answer of 'jeep accident' though I am sure they occur and of them all log in millions of more hours of both modes than any of us and Jeep mileage for the poor bar girls over thier young lives outnumber trike mileage by a factor of 10 or 100 or a 1000.

Don't get me started on exhaust fumes at trike street level as well I crowded streets especially.[/QUOTE]Again you are not reading what others are posting before ranting on and on.

Pinaypounder has clearly stated that jeepneys are the walmart for pickpockets = (many pickpockets on jeepneys or many tagets on jeepneys for pickpockets).

Pinaypounder also clearly says that he knows many that have claimed to have things taken on the jeepney,he did not say how they were taken yet you read this to mean no one can ever get pickpocketed on the jeepney or that no one can have things taken from their pockets, he did not say that yet you clearly twist things to try to prove your point.

Just because pick pocketing has not happened to you does not mean it does not happen, as I said google jeepney pickpockets angeles and you will see a whole heap of guys / girls claiming to have been pickpocketed, I have witnessed pickpockets on jeepneys, know 1st hand of guys that have been pickpocketed in jeepneys so your argument hold no ground.

I have also travelled hundreds of times on malaysia airlines, my flight has never crashed/gone missing, it has never been shot out of the sky by a missile that does not mean it did not happen or that some 600 people did not lose their lives it just means it did not happen to me,

You also recently claimed to all this board that certain southern parts of mindanao were totally safe to travel to, everyone here disagreed with you, most if not all world governments disagree with you and have categary 1 warnings against visiting yet you still carried on with you posts of its totally safe, even to the point of falling out with senior members, maybe you should tell the people who were recently kidnapped in mindanao that its totally safe because you say so,i think you will find they will disagree stronly with yourself,

if you Want to comment on the jeepneys then saying something like I have never been picked, or I have not heard of pickpockets is fine and correct, claiming it is impossible and that other members must be lying / mistaken is not correct or in keeping with the harmony of this board imho.

While these endless posts on where to stash money and valuables while riding in one of the world's least comfortable means of transport are doubtless fascinating to some, none addresses the larger question of why anyone would ride them when other modes of transport are available. Jeepneys, like Bush taxis in Africa, are the apotheosis of third world development and their attraction for foreigners is beyond my limited comprehension. As an alternative in Angeles, I'd suggest hotel cars, often offered gratis to guests or, all else failing, one of the iniquitous trikes, which are equally uncomfortable but allow one to circumvent any threat of being robbed.

GE.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1840089]While these endless posts on where to stash money and valuables while riding in one of the world's least comfortable means of transport are doubtless fascinating to some, none addresses the larger question of why anyone would ride them when other modes of transport are available. Jeepneys, like Bush taxis in Africa, are the apotheosis of third world development and their attraction for foreigners is beyond my limited comprehension. As an alternative in Angeles, I'd suggest hotel cars, often offered gratis to guests or, all else failing, one of the iniquitous trikes, which are equally uncomfortable but allow one to circumvent any threat of being robbed.

GE.[/QUOTE]Precisely GE.

I cannot understand why you pend SP much cash to arrive in AC then take a 8 pesos jeepney when some hotels offer free rides to the main places, or if you really must trike it.

Crap happens all over the world if you don't look after your wallet etc. Friend was robber di Addis a while back by street urchins and he did not feel a thing, mates in Cebu are careful when they wander around Colon (or Mango at night).

My advice is don't ride Jeepneys as most of the girls I know have lost cash, mobiles on them (as PP said) and a westerner is a sitting target IMHO.

But some like the thrill etc is fine YMMV but some pay thousands of USD and then don't look after valuable when outside carefully? Is like the Japanese tourist I have seen wandering on Copacabana with the expensive cameras hanging from their neck and flashy expensive watches on the wrists. And they wonder why they are robbed LOL.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1840089]While these endless posts on where to stash money and valuables while riding in one of the world's least comfortable means of transport are doubtless fascinating to some, none addresses the larger question of why anyone would ride them when other modes of transport are available. Jeepneys, like Bush taxis in Africa, are the apotheosis of third world development and their attraction for foreigners is beyond my limited comprehension. As an alternative in Angeles, I'd suggest hotel cars, often offered gratis to guests or, all else failing, one of the iniquitous trikes, which are equally uncomfortable but allow one to circumvent any threat of being robbed.

GE.[/QUOTE]GE, you are correct, enough about the jeepney pickpockets.

As I posted recently I stay at the Lewis grand which has a 24/7 limo service so that I no longer have to use the stinking / uncomfortable jeepney.

Here's the problems I find with using Angeles trikes.

Scum bags for drivers, high chance of them being drunk or on yabba,10 x the cost of trikes anywhere else in the phills but most of all its much too small, its also very low to the ground so that one is at the height of the tail pipes and exhaust fumes of surrounding vehicles,

But the main concern has to be safety, being that low to the ground in an accident I could easily see a real risk of a passenger being decapitated.

yes its a bit more expensive to stay at a hotel that offers car service but money very well spent imho,

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1840112]



Here's the problems I find with using angeles trikes.

Scum bags for drivers, high chance of them being drunk or on yabba,10 x the cost of trikes anywhere else in the phills but most of all its much too small, its also very low to the ground so that one is at the height of the tail pipes and exhaust fumes of surrounding vehicles,

But the main concern has to be safety, being that low to the ground in an accident I could easily see a real risk of a passenger being decapitated.

yes its a bit more expensive to stay at a hotel that offers car service but money very well spent imho,[/QUOTE]Agreed. I stay at ABC which provides drop-off and pick-up service to its guests. You're also correct about the trikes, but given that I've never had a ride that lasted longer than 10 minutes, I'm willing to put up with the discomfort from time to time. Last week for example, because of a balloon festival, streets were clogged amd I didn't want to wait for a hotel car, so I coped with the discomfort of a trike ride to ABC amd didn't really care much if it cost me an extra Php20 or 30.

I'm not much attracted to the sleaziness and noise of the bars--though I get it that some are--so I like to strike early, strike quickly, and then get back to the relative serenity of the hotel.

GE.

Me too, GE. Looking forward to meeting up again next month.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1840135] I like to strike early, strike quickly, and then get back to the relative serenity of the hotel.

GE.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1840135]Agreed. I stay at ABC which provides drop-off and pick-up service to its guests. You're also correct about the trikes, but given that I've never had a ride that lasted longer than 10 minutes, I'm willing to put up with the discomfort from time to time. Last week for example, because of a balloon festival, streets were clogged amd I didn't want to wait for a hotel car, so I coped with the discomfort of a trike ride to ABC amd didn't really care much if it cost me an extra Php20 or 30.

I'm not much attracted to the sleaziness and noise of the bars--though I get it that some are--so I like to strike early, strike quickly, and then get back to the relative serenity of the hotel.

GE.[/QUOTE]Of course the private cars are virtually useless in traveling the monger areas of AC from ABC or Lewis Grand which are in the perimeter. I don't see how they factor in to the discussion at all for most daily or nightly travel. If you take a private hotel car from those hotels to Fields what hat I don't understand is how they help you with a barfine. Those hotels don't have fleets of private cars waiting to drop you off and pick you up. Where do they have a stand to hover outside of walking street to get you for a barfine? OK honey now the iron is hot and I'm ready to strike so lets call my hotel and wait for the car to navigate that road at walking speed and get us back to my exclusive hotel.

This forum is not just for mongers who stay at the the few AC hotels which offer a limited car service which makes you wait on both ends coming going etc. Some of us just want to get there when we want to at the whims of our desires we are savvy and don't have a great fear of the regular local people. We don't mind rubbing elbows with them in their world. We don't live there so we don't get tired of the bullshit over the course of a visit.

If you take a private car from LG or ABC, to SM Clark, I could in many cases beat you there simply walking just walk down the Perimeter, cut through the Jeep terminal, jump the wall to the extreme left of the terminal and walk to the Mall. Its a low grassy area so much less susceptible to muddy or dirty paths of that big desert where all the pinoys go.

Getting into a car for in city travel in AC monger areas is a monumental clusterfuck and I hope you love sitting in traffic. As soon as the traffic stalls get out and walk the rest of the way. Its not far.

[QUOTE=Pantot;1840450]Of course the private cars are virtually useless in travelling the monger areas of AC from ABC or Lewis Grand which are in the perimiter. I don't see how they factor in to the discussion at all for most daily or nightly travel. If you take a private hotel car from those hotels to Fields what hat I don't understand is how they help you with a barfine. Those hotels don't have fleets of private cars waiting to drop you off and pick you up. Where do they have a stand to hover outside of walking street to get you for a barfine? Ok honey now the iron is hot and I'm ready to strike so lets call my hotel and wait for the car to navigate that road at walking speed and get us back to my exclusive hotel.

This forum is not just for mongers who stay at the the few AC hotels which offer a limited car service which makes you wait on both ends coming going etc. Some of us just want to get there when we want to at the whims of our desires we are savvy and don't have a great fear of the regular local people. We don't mind rubbing elbows with them in thier world. We don't live there so we don't get tired of the bullshit over the course of a visit.

If you take a private car from LG or ABC, to SM Clark, I could in many cases beat you there simply walking just walk down the Perimeter, cut through the Jeep terminal, jump the wall to the extreme left of the terminal and walk to the Mall. Its a low grassy area so much less susceptible to muddy or dirty paths of that big desert where all the pinoys go.

Getting into a car for in city travel in AC monger areas is a monumental clusterfuck and I hope you love sitting in traffic. As soon as the traffic stalls get out and walk the rest of the way. Its not far.[/QUOTE]Without overly belaboring the point, if cars are useless coping with e traffic, then why are Jeepneys, which stop to let off and take on passengers any more efficient? And as to pick-ups to get back to the hotel, I call about 5 minutes before I need a car, and once I walk outside it's usually there, or ready to meet me at the beginning of Walking Street. And yes, the hotel does have a fleet of cars.

I'm not trying to start a class war and I'm not going to respond to any additional posts on this inane subject. My point is writing originally was not to denigrate those who take Jeepneys, but to point out that for those who are apprehensive about getting robbed while riding them, there are alternatives.

In my younger days, I rode the motorcycle taxis and tuk tuks in Bangkok, rented bikes to get around town, and happily entered all manner of Bush vehicles all over Africa. I've also worked in various parts of this country where most foreigners will never go amd lived to tell the tale. Now that I'm (much) older, I'm more risk averse; hence my preference for private cars.

GE.

Hahaha you started a class war by calling Fields "Walking Street. " Did Obama rename too that last time he was here?