Angeles City

[QUOTE=Slippery;1840523]Hahaha you started a class war by calling Fields "Walking Street. " Did Obama rename too that last time he was here?[/QUOTE]Uhm.... The part of Fields between the crossing with Mitchell Ave and McArthur IS called Walking Street.

Guys, can you please stop this endless debate now? Not all of us have the budget to stay at expensive hotels like the ABC or Lewis Grand with their 'free' private car services. And not all of us are willing to pay 100 PhP for each trike ride, even when we can afford it. It's amazing how much money you can save simply by paying attention or shopping around a little bit. The savings add up pretty quickly.
Yes, most of us spend a small fortune just to get to the Phils but that doesn't mean that everybody can (or wants) to spend even more money like water once they're here.

Personally I've never had any problems riding the jeepneys, except that they are quite uncomfortable. And I've taken them all over the Phils, including in Manila, AC and Cebu. I've never felt unsafe and I've never been pickpocketed, even though I'm carrying my wallet in my back pocket. Yes, that's right: in my back pocket. Because I 'feel' it better when I keep it there rather than in my front pocket which is often a bit loose.

Hmmm, maybe I'm only fuelling the debate now, LOL!

Mogwai, Walking street?

According to google earth and my local knowledge there is no such thing as walking street angeles or even perimeter road as some call it.

Don juico avenue runs from way past mirror bar up till Petron where it is then named 21st street, 21st street then joins on to fields avenue roughly at friendship jeep terminal and carries on as fields avenue right past atlantis, dollhouse etc till the end where it meets macarthur highway.

The fairly recent Angeles walking street sign was put there for tourists to try to emulate the success of walking street Pattaya, it was the bright idea of the then Angeles mayor and the then police chief lui tan (now deceased) who visited Pattaya some years back and were highly impressed by the walking street Pattaya sign, but the st name was never changed from fields avenue,

From memory the american airmen stationed at clark started calling Don juico avenue and 21st street perimeter road because the 2 roads were the perimeter to their base,

As far as stirring the pot, yes you have done that quite nicely with your wallet in back pocket remarks LOL.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1840112].Here's the problems I find with using angeles trikes o,[/QUOTE]Unless you're coming back from a bar late and its raining or your date is wearing heels, what other possible scenario would have you getting into a trike?

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1840595]Mogwai, Walking street?

According to google earth and my local knowledge there is no such thing as walking street angeles [/QUOTE]A few years ago they erected barriers just past the Raymond Street entrance to Fields and another Barrier on fields roughly 1 or 2 blocks from MacArthur. There is a huge sign at the Raymond Street Barricade proclaiming "Walking Street" . During the day the supply vehicles for the bars are allowed to come in but at night yes it is literally a walking street. There are two main trike stands, one on fields near the raymond street barricade and one on the Santos street entrance to Fields.

You won't find it on Google earth if that's your source of reference. Trikes, cars scooters etc are not on there at night. The trikes do you turns and take you on routes away from that area. There isn't a trike stand at the near Macarthur entrance to Fields as few go that way.

Its a nice oasis as idle trikes litter the sidewalks of the rest of Fields and the Perimeter road and make walking a constant street- sidewalk-street affair. Walking is still the safest mode of transport in the tight small Balibago Fields bar area IMO.

If I were king of Angeles My first decree would be to outlaw all idle trikes from the South side of the Fields / perimeter / Don Juico corridor and force them to the north side along the perimeter fence. It has been pretty much cleaned up lately and has plenty of space.

Just clear up the f*cking sidewalks so we can walk on them.

[QUOTE=Pantot;1840917]Just clear up the f*cking sidewalks so we can walk on them.[/QUOTE]Or at least make the sidewalks leveled instead of at 30 degree angles.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1840936]Or at least make the sidewalks leveled instead of at 30 degree angles.[/QUOTE]Walking Street. And don't forget lads, about 2/3 yrs ago, they ripped up the terrible sidewalk (and the road itself) and re-laid it with fancy bricks, design etc. It took maybe a year to do, and lasted only about 6 months, before it started crumbling, falling apart, sliding etc. Only in the Philippines.

That's part of the attraction of the Philippines. All fucked up. A refreshing change from our homelands where things are orderly and organised, sort of. Fucked infrastructure, fucked in the head girls etc. What more could we want?

More please, LOL.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1841075]More please, LOL.[/QUOTE]McDo have-a spaghetti. Delizioso. Like-a Italia. Mama Mia.

What I enjoy about the Philippines is it takes almost no effort to get the poosy, but it takes a lot of effort to walk the pavement. If one had never been here could you imagine such a place? In the west the weirdly inverted, opposite-to-expectations Bizarro World exists in comics. But here you get to live in actual Bizarro World. Brilliant!

Yes, the chaos and rawness of it all is refreshing in a peculiar way.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1841075]Walking Street. And don't forget lads, about 2/3 yrs ago, they ripped up the terrible sidewalk (and the road itself) and re-laid it with fancy bricks, design etc. It took maybe a year to do, and lasted only about 6 months, before it started crumbling, falling apart, sliding etc. Only in the Philippines.

That's part of the attraction of the Philippines. All fucked up. A refreshing change from our homelands where things are orderly and organised, sort of. Fucked infrastructure, fucked in the head girls etc. What more could we want?

More please, LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hutsori;1841321]McDo have-a spaghetti. Delizioso. Like-a Italia. Mama Mia.

What I enjoy about the Philippines is it takes almost no effort to get the poosy, but it takes a lot of effort to walk the pavement. If one had never been here could you imagine such a place? In the west the weirdly inverted, opposite-to-expectations Bizarro World exists in comics. But here you get to live in actual Bizarro World. Brilliant![/QUOTE]Yes, as you say, enjoy it, for what it is. What amuses me, guys arriving, then trying to change the girls to Western ways and mentality. Isn't that what we are escaping? Over the years I have observed guys from one country in particular, that are hell bent on changing the Filipinos to resemble morals, behavior, as in in their home country. Disaster, both guy and girl end up in confrontation all the time and unhappy. Hint: Country name starts with a G, LOL. There is an old saying "Eliminate the negative, accentuate the positive, and don't miss with Mister in between. Get it? Got it? Good!

So, McDo have a Spaghetti Delizioso. And the Phils have Pussy Delizioso! Enjoy the positive, eliminate the negative, LOL.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1841367]Yes, as you say, enjoy it, for what it is. What amuses me, guys arriving, then trying to change the girls to Western ways and mentality. Isn't that what we are escaping? Over the years I have observed guys from one country in particular, that are hell bent on changing the Filipinos to resemble morals, behavior, as in in their home country. Disaster, both guy and girl end up in confrontation all the time and unhappy. Hint: Country name starts with a G, LOL. There is an old saying "Eliminate the negative, accentuate the positive, and don't miss with Mister in between. Get it? Got it? Good!

So, McDo have a Spaghetti Delizioso. And the Phils have Pussy Delizioso! Enjoy the positive, eliminate the negative, LOL.[/QUOTE]Once morning while enjoying an excellent FRhstck at German Angel's Bakery and Coffee Shop on Don Juico, I witnessed one of those guys scolding a pinay about how she was raising their baby. He railed on and on about her failure to teach the baby to fall asleep early at night and not to touch things. As if on cue, the baby reached over and knocked the toothpick dispenser off the table spilling its contents all over the floor. Der father flew into a rage pointing out that this incident was exactly the kind of thing he was chiding the poor little mother about. He complained loudly that the toothpicks were no longer sanitary and he would have to pay for them.

My pinay companion whispered, "Wow! That poriner is really angry to that girl. Maybe he is bossy and angry when he fuck that girl also. " She giggled and I spewed my coffee into a napkin no longer able to contain my amusement at the ongoing comedy.

It is odd that so many guys flee the big fat masculine women in their homeland but once in the Philippines they start complaining about how vacuous dull and stupid the pinays are compared to the educated Western women they ran away from. They expect the pinays to entertain and stimulate their minds as well as their pricks. This comes from the Western expectation that men will end all their friendships and hobbies making their girlfriend or wife the center of their social life once in a relationship. Perhaps they can learn a thing or two from Filipinos who are much less demanding with the girls. Filipinos only expect the girls to give them pussy and beer money. They find their own entertainment with the guys getting drunk and betting on roosters at cockfights.

So I just came over to this site from USG. I am planning a trip to Angeles city area later this year and it'll be my first time experiencing it. I would like to go with a game plan if at all possible. Would anyone be so kind as to pm me information. Like which places to go to find girls for FS. I will be staying at ABC hotel if that helps. I am excited about this but want to make sure I have a plan before just jumping into it out there LOL.

[QUOTE=LucidDream;1841720]So I just came over to this site from USG. I am planning a trip to Angeles city area later this year and it'll be my first time experiencing it. I would like to go with a game plan if at all possible. Would anyone be so kind as to pm me information. Like which places to go to find girls for FS. I will be staying at ABC hotel if that helps. I am excited about this but want to make sure I have a plan before just jumping into it out there LOL.[/QUOTE]People are about to tell you to Read The Fucking Forum. There is no plan needed for AC. Walk out of your hotel. Walk into a bar. Find a girl you like. Pay bar fine. Go back to your hotel. Fuck. Then repeat the process as often as you like.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1841700]They expect the pinays to entertain and stimulate their minds as well as their pricks. This comes from the Western expectation that men will end all their friendships and hobbies making their girlfriend or wife the center of their social life once in a relationship. [/QUOTE]A good book, a comfortable poolside recliner, and decent gym. 'Nuff said.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1841700]Once morning while enjoying an excellent FRhstck at German Angel's Bakery and Coffee Shop on Don Juico, I witnessed one of those guys scolding a pinay about how she was raising their baby. He railed on and on about her failure to teach the baby to fall asleep early at night and not to touch things. As if on cue, the baby reached over and knocked the toothpick dispenser off the table spilling its contents all over the floor. Der father flew into a rage pointing out that this incident was exactly the kind of thing he was chiding the poor little mother about. He complained loudly that the toothpicks were no longer sanitary and he would have to pay for them.

My pinay companion whispered, "Wow! That poriner is really angry to that girl. Maybe he is bossy and angry when he fuck that girl also. " She giggled and I spewed my coffee into a napkin no longer able to contain my amusement at the ongoing comedy.

It is odd that so many guys flee the big fat masculine women in their homeland but once in the Philippines they start complaining about how vacuous dull and stupid the pinays are compared to the educated Western women they ran away from. They expect the pinays to entertain and stimulate their minds as well as their pricks. This comes from the Western expectation that men will end all their friendships and hobbies making their girlfriend or wife the center of their social life once in a relationship. Perhaps they can learn a thing or two from Filipinos who are much less demanding with the girls. Filipinos only expect the girls to give them pussy and beer money. They find their own entertainment with the guys getting drunk and betting on roosters at cockfights.[/QUOTE]That should be in the ROD.

I too see the mistaken cultural clashes (have been guilty of it myself; and I learn new cultural items, sometimes superstitions, on each visit). I think the term is ethnocentrism, and its inside all of us, to some degree. Child-rearing and a child's experiences are different in phils compared to the west. Education is obviously different. Foreigners pushing their own culture on poor pinay is really a form of ethnocentrism taken to a large degree. It would be easy to say that a foreigner's failure to understand that is simply a measure of his 'stupidity', but its more a measure of his inability to see the difference in culture. Further, its his inability to adjust to the local culture. Certainly the locals -- the girl in this case, or her child -- is not about to adjust to an outside culture (unless she departs Phils and moves to his country, where the adjustment would be expected).

Honestly gents, the concepts that are complained about here often (girl's inability to be on time, girls being 'vacuous' or 'stupid', etc) are only true through your own cultural lens. They are not true in any sense, they fit only your / our / western perception; certainly they don't fit pinoy perception. Are you following the Star Trek prime directive, or not?

Possibly this should be in the Gen Info thread. Later I will share a similar thing about another culture (Russian / ukranian).

Long post warning. First time to PI and only had 4 nights and decided to stay all in AC. I'm 38 and been only to Pattaya (3 times), Jakarta once, Macau (many times from 2005-2011), Shanghai (3 times). So I'm not very experienced, so take that into account.

I'm not a big "drinker" so the attractiveness of the girls at 9 pm will look the same to me at 1 am- no beer goggles;).

I came to AC having read / skimmed the AC thread for about 100 pages. I had a general idea of what to expect and I was neither wowed or disappointed by AC.

Night 1.

Arrived Sunday night and 2800 php car to AC took about 2 hrs 45 mins. Checked into Valentinos Hotel which for the price is not a bad place to stay.

10 pm: After eating I trolled "Walking street" stopping into a few bars / gogos. As with every night on my short trip the talent on the stage was not great. Most are 4-5's on my scale with only a couple of 6's. Rarely will you find a 7 and only once did I see an 8-9 "on stage". (Obviously beauty is in the eye of the beholder).

After 4 bars I found a girl at Doll House. She was a 7 in my book and was friendly but shy and only had been working in AC for 2 weeks. I knew what I was getting into, but I bar fined her (3 k php) and we had a bite at McD and back to our hotel for a decent session. She had a really cute body, fairly tall but smallish boobs, 22 yo. GFE experience, and she got very wet, but she certainly was not super energetic.

I probably would have bar fined her the next night if not for what happened during the night. So at McD she gets a coffee (at midnight). Now I know a few people who can have coffee anytime and can get to sleep. I'm not one of those people so when she kept asking if I wanted a sip I said no and told her I wouldn't be able to sleep if I drank coffee. Well after our session and shower she wants to gets to bed, but OF COURSE she is tossing and turning literally every 5-10 minutes until 5 am. At 4 am I was ready to throw her out and when at 5 am she asks to go I say absolutely. A 2nd morning 'shot' was not worth it. Sorry but I need my beauty sleep:).

Night 2 was a bust with all the bars having very mediocre talent. I decided to head back alone around midnight as I didn't feel like paying 3 K for a '6' and didn't want to go back to Doll House for a repeat.

Night 3 same ol' stroll on walking street. Most bars I would walk in and walk out as the girls on stage were not great. Around 11 pm in front of Kokomos restaurant, I chatted up a girl on her day off from Q bar who was free lancing. Short, skinny and a '6' at best. Small BS and an ok face. 1 k short time and back to hotel. Pretty basic session, not GFE and she was shy in bed but at least just didn't lay there. I will pay 1 k for that kind of session but not pay a bar fine of 3 k for the same "6" in attractiveness. Wouldn't repeat though.

Night 4.

Door girl outside Carnival was the first '8' I've seen at a gogo / bar in AC. Tall, great body, really pretty face. She ended up going inside and I went in and she was on the small stage that is closest to the door with only 3 dancers. The main stage had about 12 girls but none caught my eye. The small stage has two booth type seats on either side and all 3 girls were facing the other seats with 2 Koreas (so I was looking at their backs / butts). After getting a drink I asked the waitress who was sitting next to me that I would like to buy the pretty girl a drink. The waitress slapped the girl's ass and she turned to us and I smiled and she had no expression. Not a smile nor a frown and didn't even a shake her head to decline. I guess I should have thanked her for not wasting my time and money on a lady drink. I very quickly told the waitress to forget it and the girl just turned back around like nothing happened. So a definite rejection. The korean guys left and after my beer I left as well.

I walked to a bar near the New Orange bar and they had a couple that might be '7's' but not very interesting. I left and passed the Orange bar and found a stunner at the door. A 8-9 by my standards, slim but not skinny, nice sized boobs and very pretty face. She was trying to get me to go into the bar and as she escorted me in I saw the stage and she was by far the prettiest. I asked if I could buy her a drink and she accepted. Nice girl, 22 yo, has only worked as a door girl for about 1 year but only 1 week at the Orange bar, no kids. I asked if she would bar fine and she said ok but only short time. I'm a sucker for a pretty face so I agreed.

I had low expectations as she was very pretty and just a door girl but the session was very good. Her skills were very good and that body was fantastic. Mechanical and not GFE but I'the definitely repeat; however this was my final night.

Bonus before hotel check out!

The night before I had chatted with what appeared to be some culinary student / FL but she was busy that night and asked if I can do a quickie in the morning (9 am) before I checked out of the hotel. I told her I would let her know but that was a bit early. Well, I was up early and after some messages and a missed meeting at McD at 9 am we were able to get together at 11 am. She was a college student and had a physical education class from 10 to 10:50. She looked like her photos and I would say she was a '7'. She was 21 yo and had some meat on her but no kids and pretty tight. I had to check out by 12 pm so it was a quickie but she loved to kiss and was wet like no other. Really wished I had found her earlier in the week as I would have definitely repeated. Oh well. Damage 1. 5 k (she started at 2 K).

I ended up taking the bus back to manila then taxi to the airport which was very smooth on a Thursday at lunch time. Taxi guy was nice enough to stop at starbucks and McD as I was really hungry and tired.

Opinions from a first timer to PI:

The flight to PI for me is only 2. 5 hrs but I don't think I will be going back. Both AC and Pattaya are just not my style. Not enough talent in the 'looks' department. (my personal taste). I think both AC and Pattaya might be good for people in a group or at least with a wingman so you can drink and talk as you watch less than enthusiastic women stand on the stage. Also I'm not that into LT sessions. Having to make conversation with WGs is not appealing unfortunately. However at least in AC the english skills are much better than Pattaya.

I've been 'spoiled' by the high talent (and high price) from Macau for so many years that it can be hard to find a pretty face in Thailand or PI. Also I'm a lazy bum when it comes to "mongering" so the sauna / spa type places of Macau / Shanghai / Jakarta fit my personality more. If you are into and have patience for "the hunt" I think you can do well with finding some gems and FLs outside of Fields Ave either normal girls or on chatting apps.

Koreans, koreans, koreans! I probably should have put this at the beginning but there are very attractive girls in AC but they are all on the arms of Koreans. They are on Walking street in plain clothes or with them inside the bars. But usually never 'on stage'. I guess these guys bar fine very early in the day and drink, eat, party, ect the rest of the night with the girl. Personally I cannot fault the girls if they do prefer koreans since they don't have to dance and get free drinks and food for the rest of the night. To find a stunner "on stage" you might have to start around 7-8 pm. Obviously for "LT" with a stunner you may need to negotiate as I feel that they will not do 3 k for LT.

WeChat. I probably should have put more time in APP messaging but if you are staying a long time (1-3 weeks) I think you might can get some decent FL talent from it. One funny exchange with a 19-20 ish girl. She was a 9 in looks, spinner type. She asked what I would pay and I started at 1. 5 k. She replied "No". I asked her what is her price and she said 30 k. Whoa. I didn't take it further so perhaps her bottom price is 10-15 k but perhaps some high rollering koreans are paying that for the younger, pretty ones?