Panama City

[QUOTE=Imperial521]I am a younger guy who likes older women and am planning on staying in Panama for an extended time. In my opinion, there is nothing hotter than an older Latin woman!

What are my best options here? Are the older non-pro women in Panama neglected with all you chasing 19 year olds? I would love to find a non-pro sugardaddy set up. How good is the scene here?

Are there many older women populating the pro bars in Panama? All I see pictures of are the 19 year old Columbian women. Are there any Columbian MILFs?[/QUOTE]Good Question!

Hi all.
Some time ago (28/8/2007), I posted a summary of my experience dating back 1 year. Not surprisingly, that info is not well up-to-date.
I was in Panama for 3 days last week, so I post now some new info.
(btw, I do not understand that long reports that detail everything the author did, from brushing teeths in the morning to all nasty things with the girl. I prefer reports that list "do's and dont's". I try to do that, based on my experience)

LA BODEGUITA
It is really the not-to-miss place in Panama! Every night, even on Monday, you'll find much more that your eyes, pocket and body can afford. A feast of Colombian hotties of all shapes and looks. It is hard to describe. Drinks from 5$ to 7$. Cover on weekends. I went there all nights.
Girls ask from 100$ to 150$ (at least those I talked to). I never paid more than 100 (+ voluntary extra tip in one case). Just discuss and change girl if they are firm.

OTHER PLACES
Veneto and other casinos are completely dry. It must be true what reported: no chicas policy strictly enforced.

SWs
The only place where a tourist can go walking at night is the street in front of Veneto, perpendicular to Veneto street. However, I saw only 2 girls this time.
Other places are the main roads around Curundu and El Chorrillo (for example). Warning: only by car at night. It is certainly dangerous to go there at night walking. Actually, nobody does it except locals of the same barrio.
Girls are NOT what you can find at La Bodeguita, though :-)

HOTELS
Why all you guys are so sorry that your Veneto or Continental Riande are not chica-friendly anymore? Are you happy of bringing somebody you dont know in your room, where you have everything that belongs to your life?
There are so cheap and good alternatives!
Avoid at any cost hotels suggested by taxi drivers.
I recommend the hotel "Los Arcos". Any taxi driver knows it. It is in Bellavista, 5 minutes from la Bodeguita, 2-3 blocks South of Via Espana,if I am not wrong on Arusemena. Price: 11$ for 2 hours (yes). The rooms are clean, well furnished and you can have a shower without feeling dirty *after* it. Los Arcos is a chain of budget hotels that is not bad.
WARNING: the regular price for the taxi IS TWO DOLLARS tip included (actually 1.25 or 1.75, depending from where and when). When they ask you 3$ it's because you are tourist (I accepted it and I paid). When they ask you 5$ it is an abuse. They are cheating you. I had strong discussions in this case.

POLICE
It happened me that one night I decided to walk out of La Bodeguita with my girl, instead of taking a taxi. We wanted to make a stroll before taking a taxi for Los Arcos. I also did not want to use the taxies in front of La Bodeguita which easily overcharge the customer (assumed rich due to the 100$-girl at his side).
Well, I forgot that our stroll was including also the street where there is the police station, 1-2 blocks from La Bodeguita. :-(
Policemen stop us, documents, chat with me about clandestine prostitution reported to happen in La Bodeguita and Veneto, inquiry about how much I was asked to pay by the girl, etc.
Final statement: "You can go to your hotel. She stays here in the station for further investigation because she is Colombian". (pls note: they do not speak English).
Since I liked her very much, I kept on stating that I liked to have a stroll with her since she is a beauty, that I was not asked money yet (we are all men and not stupid), that I was not aware of any illegal activity. After 10 minutes of quiet debate with the policemen, 15 meters away from the girl and the other policeman, finally the girl came to me and told me that she was asked by the other policeman a tip of 20$ for closing the case. I went to a dark corner, I gave her 30$, she gave them to that policeman, and we were all happy (handshakes and smiles from both sides).
In conclusion: take a taxi and avoid strolls out of La Bodeguita, but try to be not overcharged too much.


OTHER INFOs (not for the tourist that spends one week segregated in the Veneto hotel and uses a taxi for going to la Bodeguita).
- Some nights there is a nice fried fish done in the street in the market of Chorrillo! That nights, the place is safe. Many people go there to taste this speciality, well known among Panamenians. Ask before.
- From 11am to 7pm, try the fish restaurant of the fish market (first floor, you see it from the main road).

Thanks for posting Black Page, If I could just comment on two things for new guys coming down here. As someone who lives here I'd prefer these situations not get worse.

[QUOTE=Black Page]WARNING: the regular price for the taxi IS TWO DOLLARS tip included (actually 1.25 or 1.75, depending from where and when). When they ask you 3$ it's because you are tourist (I accepted it and I paid). When they ask you 5$ it is an abuse. [/QUOTE]Best not to overpay at all. No fare anywhere a monger is going in the city should be over $1.75. Ask them how much it will be before you get in, if it's over that amount get another cab, or once you've got a little idea of what fares are, just give the the correct amount on the way out. $3 is almost double of what the fare should probably be, just because your a tourist doesn't mean it should cost you more. The more people who pay this the more taxista's will do it, the easier it is for them the more common and the higher the fares will go. Hold the line at the correct price, why voluteer to get ripped off. No need to tip, if you tip they will just think you want to get rid of your money and will raise the price on the next tourist.

[QUOTE=Black Page]told me that she was asked by the other policeman a tip of 20$ for closing the case. I went to a dark corner, I gave her 30$, she gave them to that policeman, and we were all happy (handshakes and smiles from both sides).[/QUOTE]
Same thing, if the police start making money at this the more they and other police will do it. Just let them do thier thing and get another girl, there are hundreds. The more tourists that don't give in the less frequently other people will have to deal with it.

[QUOTE=Black Page]LA BODEGUITA

It is really the not-to-miss place in Panama! Every night, even on Monday, you'll find much more that your eyes, pocket and body can afford. A feast of Colombian hotties of all shapes and looks. It is hard to describe. Drinks from 5$ to 7$. Cover on weekends. I went there all nights.

Girls ask from 100$ to 150$ (at least those I talked to). I never paid more than 100 (+ voluntary extra tip in one case). Just discuss and change girl if they are firm.

OTHER PLACES

Veneto and other casinos are completely dry. It must be true what reported: no chicas policy strictly enforced.

SWs

The only place where a tourist can go walking at night is the street in front of Veneto, perpendicular to Veneto street. However, I saw only 2 girls this time.
Other places are the main roads around Curundu and El Chorrillo (for example). Warning: only by car at night. It is certainly dangerous to go there at night walking. Actually, nobody does it except locals of the same barrio.

Girls are NOT what you can find at La Bodeguita, though :-)[/QUOTE]I live 3 blocks away from "La Bodeguita" and have been frequent this place every night. $5 cover always. $45 bottle of rum. $2. 50 per beer. This place is great to watch beautiful ass, but you better not enter the place without $150, hooker included.

Veneto is lame, unless you gamble. The massage parlor down the street has more action.

I've seen SW in Calidonia: Lots. Avenida Central. Their are plenty of hooker inside the bars and on the street, but the quality is lower than your "tourist traps. " Mostly local girls, but good value, $25. $40. You can find superstars so don't be intimidated. And plenty of police patrols.

Thus far, I'm not too impressed by Cd. Panama. It's all Colombian and way too expensive. Whenever a hooker quotes in 15-minute intervals and can't comprehend 1 or 2 hours, then it's bad. Hopefully, I'll find my spot, but I've been working the locals and getting more play from them than the hooker scene.

[QUOTE=Meat Loaf]
I've seen SW in Calidonia: Lots. Avenida Central. Their are plenty of hooker inside the bars and on the street, but the quality is lower than your "tourist traps. " Mostly local girls, but good value, $25. $40. You can find superstars so don't be intimidated. And plenty of police patrols.
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grrr.....!
1 month ago I asked about SWs but nobody replied me....
This is useful info. I would have liked to know that before.
Thanks anyway! :-)

TBuss and Metaloaf. You guys live in Panama City, right? How is the night life there? Aside from the prostitutes, is the non-pro scene there thriving?

[QUOTE=Black Page]1 month ago I asked about SWs but nobody replied me....
[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Imperial521]TBuss and Meatloaf. You guys live in Panama City, right? How is the night life there? Aside from the prostitutes, is the non-pro scene there thriving?[/QUOTE]Granted, I only have 2 weeks in this city, but Monger hard!

The nightlife is great! Cd. Panama parties until 6 a.m. Everyone gets paid on the 15th and 30th, so these weeks will have more action. Thursday starts the weekend party, but every night is active.

Cd. Panama girls are easy to talk too! I'm getting 3-5 prospects per day just walking around and taking the bus. All females are willing to talk.

Personally, since these Colombianas are charging too much, I'm gonna' do the non-pro scene for a while. After all, I live in the best neighborhood, Marbella, am a Gringo, and have some money to spare. I'll get more ass from the non-pros than the scavengers from Colombia hunting the tourist.

Non-pros are the way to go in Cd. Panama!

Imperial521,

The non-pro nightlife is awesome. There are alot of clubs on Calle Uruguay that are busy most every night, there is also a nice, upscale lounge called Decropolis in the Ramada hotel at the Multi-Centro Mall. There are bars, lounges all over the city with many, many attractive women.

[QUOTE=Imperial521]TBuss and Metaloaf. You guys live in Panama City, right? How is the night life there? Aside from the prostitutes, is the non-pro scene there thriving?[/QUOTE]I forgot to add one piece of advice: If a "non-pro" says she's from the Dominican Republic walk away; if she says she's from Colombia run as fast as you can. Don't set yourself up for failure 'cause she's gonna' charge at the end of your conversation.

They just had a 2-page article in the newspaper, Panama America, about Colombianas hunting for citizenship and money here in Cd. Panama. Everyone knows their M.O.

Look for the Panamanian girls, especially from Chiriqi.

I like to start my party festivities at 9 a.m., but am having a hard-time finding the "pro-scene" during the day. Maybe this is because the pros work until 6 a.m. at all of the nightclubs and casinos.

Does anyone have any suggestions or locations? If not, I guess I'll have to hit the street block-by-block.

Meatloaf, For daytime pros, try the massage parlors --Oasis, Hawaii, Caribbean Center, Royal Elegance among others -- take a look in the yellow pages. Also, I think Miami, the strip club/brothel in El Dorado, opens early. If you're going in the morning call first -- these places typically don't open until around noon. Of the ones I listed, I think only Royal Elegance is open during the morning.

[QUOTE=Meat Loaf]
Look for the Panamanian girls, especially from Chiriqi.[/QUOTE]
Why Chiriqui? Tell me, tell me.
I like Panamenians.

Btw, again, I hate you all! I spent 3 days in Panama and now that I am back you write all this useful information....
Wish I read this just 10 days ago. I dont know when and if I'll be back to check this. Grrrrr...!!!

[QUOTE=Black Page]Why Chiriqui? Tell me, tell me.

I like Panamenians.

Btw, again, I hate you all! I spent 3 days in Panama and now that I am back you write all this useful information.

Wish I read this just 10 days ago. I dont know when and if I'll be back to check this. Grrrrr![/QUOTE]They tell me that the girls from the city of David, Chiriqui, are the best 'cause they too are Panamanian, but since it's a small city and the country they don't get fucked as much as girls from Cd. Panama. Girls in Cd. Panama have take "swilla'" all their lives and for what ever reason, while girls in the country have more family pressure and less population. This is the mentality of all places towards country girls. Furthermore, you will see the Chiriqui flag all over Cd. Panama: The Chiriqui flag looks like an Arab flag with red, green, yellow, stars, and some other stuff.

as i wrote earlier, i like to start my party early. (it's 653 and i'm beginning my first balboa.) anyway, i drank some rum and coke yesterday morning and left the abode at about 1300. never having been to rio abajo and reading the u. s. state department advisory on where not to go in cd. panama, i jumped on the bus with no sense of direction.

my first place was "salon bar" in rio abajo on ave. espana. i was a day late 'cause the night before they had a "colitas mojadas" show. this isn't really a *****house, but a place to drink and view soccer. everyone here is a fan of fcb (barcelona football club.) i had one beer and went next door to two other establishments of non-importance. i did eat some good "soul food" and struck-up a conversation with the cook who wanted some "meat loaf, " but i declined.

knowing the police are your friends, i received directions to "la nueva gruta azul. " it was about 1600 and the hookers were waking-up for the day and eating in the kitchen. i love nothing more than watching ****s parade around in skimpy clothes. this one chava had a nice fat ass on her chapa body. the hookers were available for purchase, but i never bang a broad on our first introduction. above the entryway to the rooms reads "subida $10, " so i asked the cashier how much and he told me $32. ¿como? i'm not some gringo, so he asked if i had a panamanian id. no, i'm from the "big boy place" called usa was my response, all i need are my balls and my word. hence, if you speak spanish with a non-panamanian accent they'll charge a foreign rate until you build-up your vip status. i doubt if i'll ever return to that place 'cause i've found better.

i jumped on whatever bus and headed towards calidonia. you can always find entertainment on the streets along ave. central. talked a while to my barber and walked to "la mayor. " getting lost in casco viejo was alright. this neighborhood is experiencing regentrification and looks marvelous. i’d much rather live there than my current residence in marbella for the simple fact that there are lots of poor neighbors around with fat asses who will sell pussy to their american neighbor for some rice-and-beans, whereas, marbella has lots of foreigners who pay $1, 000. $2, 000 for rent plus entertainment. all you get in this area are over-priced colombianas. (the same hooker charging $100 at "la bodeguita" is the same hooker charging $12 at "la mayor. " this statement is made from experience and knowing that the girls have a prostitute circuit. i see the same girls at both locations.)

arriving at "la mayor" i saw some girls i met my first weekend in cd. panama. of course, i have their number and spoke with them on thursday for home delivery, but didn’t call back to confirm. so we spoke more about home delivery. "la mayor" has the best strip show witnessed outside of the famed "mexican donkey show! " this colombiana is sexy, allows you to eat her pussy, and uses multiple dildos in all holes simultaneously, while pouring hot wax onto her clit and culo. she even gave a guy on stage a bbj with condom for his b-day while he ate her out! hell, i was getting hungry, but with home delivery from 2-girls working there, i had to show composure and let them not know that i’m a serial monger. fellas’ the show is worth your visit.

"la mayor" hours of operation: monday – saturday, 1600 – past 0200. $2 cover which includes a free budweiser beer. they have grade a pussy at this spot, but their prices are goofy: $12 for 15-minutes. it’s better to get home delivery.

so, i left instead of buying another bottle of rum and went next door. i don’t remember the name of the place, but there are 4 *****houses alongside "la mayor, " so i’ll just refer to them as such. the place next door actually is two bars. i saw lots of good ass, but knowing the goofy-ass price structure, i talked to some guys. on my way leaving, i saw another girl who i befriended on my first weekend in cd. panamana. i asked how much for home delivery and she quoted $60. i replied, "ha-ha-ha. " she immediately jumped to $50, and i replied $25. she said ok faster than a speeding bullet. she said wait for me while i change clothes to leave and i obliged. she said 2 hours for $25, but i knew it was going to be all night once i freaked her. (she’s still here as i type this report. and i don't know why she's talking about us getting married and moving to medellin or the usa after 3 hours cumulative of knowing each other.)

this girl from colombia gave me a hand job at the table for the whole time i drank 700 ml of abuelo and talked with my two buddies on our first introduction two weeks ago. hence, i knew she was going to be ready for me to fuck her. i like to marinate my women before i give them the meat loaf and it was well worth it!

we returned to my abode and sat on the balcony overlooking the skyline. after a beer we went into the room for some action. i fucked her for about 2 hours. she really got into the bbj. i gave her multiple orgasm via meat loaf, fingers, and words. when i discovered she allowed anal, of course, i switched my point-of-entry. i beat that asshole harder than hurricane katrina and unloaded 2 hefty loads. as i arose for the morning i gave her the morning wood. she’s still recovering by sleeping-in. i'm asked how much for my typical full-time sex employee position and she had no idea on how much she wanted to earn monthly. thus i'm waiting for her to calculate some ridiculous price before i possibly tell her $250 guaranteed with free food.

in summary, my first p4p was a successful endeavor due to me developing rapport with this girl and two others for home delivery. never do i buy on first-impression and inform the girls as such. if she’s looking to get paid today, look further, but if you want to get fucked properly and receive compensation, lets talk for a few weeks first. i like my coochie wet, hot, ready, and cooperative!

*** i omit names for the simple fact i don’t like to share my prostitutes. think about that statement. ***

p.s. since i'm really targeting the non-pro scene, i've acquired a few stalkers who want to know ever moment of my day including if i wipe front-to-back.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Meatloaf, For daytime pros, try the massage parlors.-Oasis, Hawaii, Caribbean Center, Royal Elegance among others.- take a look in the yellow pages. Also, I think Miami, the strip club/brothel in El Dorado, opens early. If you're going in the morning call first.- these places typically don't open until around noon. Of the ones I listed, I think only Royal Elegance is open during the morning. [/QUOTE]Thanks Tiny 12. I kind of like clubs or bars that are open during the day with customers partying. I'm not a big fan of MP. Truth be told, I've only visited one in life out of curiosity and that was in Mexico.

The residents told me that more-or-less nothing exists in the above fashion, unless you hit-up "'Da Hood."