Heading to Zeus tonight to check it out. Hope the ipad photos somewhat resemble the girl.
Will inquire about the differences in VIP options, aside from the duration. I assume Super VIP is 2 girls.
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Heading to Zeus tonight to check it out. Hope the ipad photos somewhat resemble the girl.
Will inquire about the differences in VIP options, aside from the duration. I assume Super VIP is 2 girls.
[QUOTE=Corso33;2177930]You mean that Oanh does not provide FS? And what do you get for 500 k tip?.[/QUOTE]Hi Corso,
I did not ask for FS. Usually I am good with some intimate GFE and kissing and BJ. Oanh is a licker. All over the body. Right when you face down even before the massage. She likes to do the service first and massage later. Anyway I figured if the tic is 500 k then minimum tip should be 500 k. I might be generous though.
Reiterating, summarizing and adding to what others have said previously.
Addy: 359 Pham Ngu Lao, D1.
From what my girl told me: Zeus Massage has only been open a few months. Hours are 12 pm to 2 am.
All rooms are VIP.
500 k = 1 shot.
700 k = 2 shots.
900 k = 2 girls.
Attendant states suggested tip is room fee. If you're Viet or Viet abroad like myself then you can pay up front or after. Girl says some foreigners don't understand or don't want to tip sometimes so they collect tip first? I won't regurgitate what nationalities she says it typically occurs with.
You're led up stairs to the lounging area. Dude explains what's up and you choose VIP level and then tablet has 3 girls to choose from. There are more girls there, but they only show 3 at a time, otherwise the uglies will never get chosen.
My level of importance is usually age weight face. Saw 2 were 1989. One was 1995 and 45 kg (my pick). I think height stats were displayed also. Pick was #4 Tien and face was 7. 5 in pics and same same in person. I'd judge 45-48 kg so not petite but still thin like I like. No tig ole bitties.
Room was new and clean. I skipped steam / sauna. Girl was surprised I spoke Viet. Sometimes I hide it sometimes I don't to see how the experience goes. Often hide it to not listen to the girl blab on and on. The Viet language isn't the most graceful, even coming out of a hottie's mouth.
Anyway, I just finished my workout and was in the mood to chat it up and be flirty, so she was down. Joked, played around, got intel from her. Great attitude.
Massage skills 6.5/10?
Flip and her top comes off, oil on us both, rubbity rub rub all over front and dong. Enjoyable.
BJ skills 8/10. Compared well with other BJs I've gotten in Vietnam massage places, which just typically aren't great. More than just the tip at least. And thankfully not one of those grandma without dentures style of BJ. Good to have a girl that will pout the lips and give some decent suction.
I don't know why I'm rambling on so much. Guess it was just a few hours ago. Anyway, she was a trooper. I was taking a while yet the BJ: HJ ratio was still 70:30 until we were getting knocks on the door to signal time is running out. Got some much needed oil and finito.
Another knock on door. Quickie shower, dressed and gave her extra 200 k for the good time and good attitude and relationship advice.
Oh, Milan Karaoke is next door to Zeus, and its take out. Been wanting to check off a KTV chick off the list.
Overall, I rate Zeus as probably my top Massage BJ spot. I've been to Boss Palace, Thai Binh 3, Dong Khanh, PA Relax, Minh Minh Tam.
I can see how it can be mechanical, but that could be a good thing knowing that standard services include a massage, body to body rub, and BJ. I've only had the body to body at one other place, Boss Palace. And that girl told me not all the girls do it.
My experience was good, and that's dependent on which girl you end up with and possibly the interaction during the session.
I'll be back to check out Milan, and if that doesn't work out, right back to Zeus. Sorry, I just realized how long it became. I should be getting work done instead!
I'll try to keep this one short. Wanted to check off FS with massage girl in little tokyo.
Strolled around and girls dragged me into Hoshi in one of the small alleys. No girl I liked but they said they will call more over, which ended up being girls from Cherry. A few of them all same owner in that area. Got my perfect type. Damn pretty face, petite frame, enough boobage to hold, say she shaves.
Tonight I didn't speak Viet, so used up a lot of time google translating. Massage and BJ 2 tr. Massage and FS 3 tr. While I didn't try to ask for lower price I did say why so much? She just did the smile and shrug.
Sorry guys, I just didn't know how to go about lowering the fee without ruining the fake mood. This wasn't an average girl, this was a girl I would like to keep as a long-term GF, if she wasn't in the game. Anyway, with me only choosing the 1 hour room, us wasting so much time translating, and me not wanting to rush. I said tonight massage and BJ. She started to massage my feet and luckily I wasn't timid and said nevermind the massage let's get started. She strips and gets to business to my liking. Lucky I decided to speed things up; only 10 minutes to spare after finishing.
Got her LINE and will get her again for FS. Says yes she can come to my room instead of me going to her spa. See ya soon bae.
[QUOTE=AddisonVo;2179035]I'll try to keep this one short. Wanted to check off FS with massage girl in little tokyo.
Strolled around and girls dragged me into Hoshi in one of the small alleys. No girl I liked but they said they will call more over, which ended up being girls from Cherry. A few of them all same owner in that area. Got my perfect type. Damn pretty face, petite frame, enough boobage to hold, say she shaves.
Tonight I didn't speak Viet, so used up a lot of time google translating. Massage and BJ 2 tr. Massage and FS 3 tr. While I didn't try to ask for lower price I did say why so much? She just did the smile and shrug.
Sorry guys, I just didn't know how to go about lowering the fee without ruining the fake mood. This wasn't an average girl, this was a girl I would like to keep as a long-term GF, if she wasn't in the game. Anyway, with me only choosing the 1 hour room, us wasting so much time translating, and me not wanting to rush. I said tonight massage and BJ. She started to massage my feet and luckily I wasn't timid and said nevermind the massage let's get started. She strips and gets to business to my liking. Lucky I decided to speed things up; only 10 minutes to spare after finishing.
Got her LINE and will get her again for FS. Says yes she can come to my room instead of me going to her spa. See ya soon bae.[/QUOTE]I'm sure these girls aren't the same quality as your 3 m gal but I fucked these 3 for 1/6th of what you were planning to and I'm fairly sure your girl isn't 6 x better.
FYI, I paid 250 K at all those BJ places at NPK and CIM was offered. However, I tip them 50 K extras for total of 300 K.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2179368]I'm sure these girls aren't the same quality as your 3 m gal but I fucked these 3 for 1/6th of what you were planning to and I'm fairly sure your girl isn't 6 x better.[/QUOTE]Please complete your thought. So where did you go to get your superior bargain. Please share that information. That would seem to be the purpose of the ISG; to be helpful to our fellow members. So tell us exactly where one can go to get what you got. Because I am certain that the purpose of your post was not to shove one of your colleague's face in the dirt; to show what kind of an exalted guy you are. . . Or was it?
[QUOTE=Pompetus;2179475]Please complete your thought. So where did you go to get your superior bargain. Please share that information. That would seem to be the purpose of the ISG; to be helpful to our fellow members. So tell us exactly where one can go to get what you got. Because I am certain that the purpose of your post was not to shove one of your colleague's face in the dirt; to show what kind of an exalted guy you are. . . Or was it?[/QUOTE]If you can't see the value of my post which hows with pics the real market value then that's your problem as to sharing my intel if you read his post where he expressed his lack of intent to bargain and where he willingly tips above and beyond the established prices eg Zeus then why would I risk the places I know where I'll go back and the prices are much higher eg Zeus the popularity is given the fact that prices are fixed no need to bargain now with the vast majority of guys tipping in addition to the established market rate tip how long will it be that the additional tip will be incorporated into the price BTW I'm still awaiting for you to share something in your many posts rather than usual commentary.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2179368]I'm sure these girls aren't the same quality as your 3 m gal but I fucked these 3 for 1/6th of what you were planning to and I'm fairly sure your girl isn't 6 x better.[/QUOTE]Dang it, can't enlarge to see the photos haha.
Yes yes, I've had a plethora of 300 k to 500 k full service girls. Some were a great surprise, some were as expected, and very few have been a little disappointing (but not really given the price). And I can surely share where, which was kynu. That's the only place I've found girls for those prices (if there are other sources for that price range I don't know it), and the site caters to locals and is all in the Viet language. Pretty easy to figure out though. Just text the number saying you'd like to meet and they'll reply with the address. I've never tried texting in English though. You have to meet them at their designated short time hotels, which always runs me less than 100 k for the hour (typically 80 k). The other call girl site I haven't used but plan to is Danchoi.
Only "problem" is faces are blocked out, which is understandable. Luckily the pics are otherwise real, although filtered. Some poses in combination with the girl sucking the tummy in are only slightly deceptive but still, you can tell the frame and the size of ta tas.
And no, I've never happened to have a girl the quality of the 3 m one from little Tokyo, but she's better than most of the other girls at her venue as well.
Two reasons for making that choice. One was to check off FS from one of those little Tokyo massage girls from the bucket list. Two is because I get to choose exactly who I'm getting and then decide what level of service I'd like.
That's not to say you won't happen to get a smoking gal from those call girl sites who might decide to get listed for a short stint in need of money, just unlikely for 500 k. Possibly better quality for the 1 m-1.5 m listings.
I've seen listings at 250 k! $11!
Even a soi 6 girl in Pattaya is 1000 baht, or $31.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2179567]If you can't see the value of my post which hows with pics the real market value then that's your problem as to sharing my intel if you read his post where he expressed his lack of intent to bargain and where he willingly tips above and beyond the established prices eg Zeus then why would I risk the places I know where I'll go back and the prices are much higher eg Zeus the popularity is given the fact that prices are fixed no need to bargain now with the vast majority of guys tipping in addition to the established market rate tip how long will it be that the additional tip will be incorporated into the price BTW I'm still awaiting for you to share something in your many posts rather than usual commentary.[/QUOTE]I hear you though, I don't get ridiculous anywhere after my first virgin trip two years ago but I'm making a conscious effort to not over tip. I feel like being timid and generous hasn't helped my situation or level of service anyway.
For example, in Dai Nam and Vien Dong I often tip the final guy, the one that walks us to the massage rooms. It's usually a 100 k tip. I say pick me a pretty girl. Or they'll ask me what I like and they will get it for me, so then I tip the 100 k. Only 3 out of probably 20+ visits have I ever received a girl as hot as the ones you see walking around the halls. It pisses me off but I don't do shit and they likely can tell.
I've tried both ways, as a Viet speaker and English only and it doesn't seem to matter. I think what matters is to act like a hard to please customer.
So I'm going to tell the fools they'll get a tip after if I like the girl. That, or reject the first one they send in. I swear I've gotten girls I don't see how were accepted for work there.
[QUOTE=AddisonVo;2179920]I hear you though, I don't get ridiculous anywhere after my first virgin trip two years ago but I'm making a conscious effort to not over tip. I feel like being timid and generous hasn't helped my situation or level of service anyway.
For example, in Dai Nam and Vien Dong I often tip the final guy, the one that walks us to the massage rooms. It's usually a 100 k tip. I say pick me a pretty girl. Or they'll ask me what I like and they will get it for me, so then I tip the 100 k. Only 3 out of probably 20+ visits have I ever received a girl as hot as the ones you see walking around the halls. It pisses me off but I don't do shit and they likely can tell.
I've tried both ways, as a Viet speaker and English only and it doesn't seem to matter. I think what matters is to act like a hard to please customer.
So I'm going to tell the fools they'll get a tip after if I like the girl. That, or reject the first one they send in. I swear I've gotten girls I don't see how were accepted for work there.[/QUOTE]I am a Viet kieu been living here full time for 10 yrs I can tell you being timid / generous gets you no where, this is a bargaining dog eat dog culture, acting that way just makes you look weak and ripe for a fleecing, when I say bargain I don't mean haggling like you are haggling over a fish at the wet markets, you need to game the girl into giving you the best service for the current price or even less if possible. This is my strategy and there are many ways of doing this that I can't be bothered to write but this doesn't work, involves far too much work at places where guys who think they are doing themselves a favour when they tip the girls extra. The guys you tip 100 k get MORE than that from the girls as the girls pay the guys a % to get at the top of the que, so its pointless the most I tip is 20-50 k for the guys helping me in the locker. There are better ways to get the hot girl rather getting the locker guys to send them your way. But the easiest way is to reject girls till you get one you are happy with (within reason 2-3 rejections), if you come off as too difficult or time waster you will also be in a bind.
Speaking in half assed Viet is just as bad as speaking in English so that would make no difference, the biggest component is knowledge and attitude just like it is in any business transaction, if you walk in a nice guy who doesn't know the ropes then you will be given the least effort / service for the highest price full stop.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2180107]I am a Viet kieu been living here full time for 10 yrs I can tell you being timid / generous gets you no where, this is a bargaining dog eat dog culture, acting that way just makes you look weak and ripe for a fleecing, when I say bargain I don't mean haggling like you are haggling over a fish at the wet markets, you need to game the girl into giving you the best service for the current price or even less if possible. This is my strategy and there are many ways of doing this that I can't be bothered to write but this doesn't work, involves far too much work at places where guys who think they are doing themselves a favour when they tip the girls extra. The guys you tip 100 k get MORE than that from the girls as the girls pay the guys a % to get at the top of the que, so its pointless the most I tip is 20-50 k for the guys helping me in the locker. There are better ways to get the hot girl rather getting the locker guys to send them your way. But the easiest way is to reject girls till you get one you are happy with (within reason 2-3 rejections), if you come off as too difficult or time waster you will also be in a bind.
Speaking in half assed Viet is just as bad as speaking in English so that would make no difference, the biggest component is knowledge and attitude just like it is in any business transaction, if you walk in a nice guy who doesn't know the ropes then you will be given the least effort / service for the highest price full stop.[/QUOTE]Got it bro. It took being conned by a taxi driver for 500 k, my backpack searched through several times at hotels, getting my iPhone X snatched, and 2 years of on-ground experiences, but I've learned common courtesy and being a nice guy just leads to trouble in so many aspects of life here.
I'll be less of a chump, at least withP4P.
Nice reality check. Good post.
[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2180107]I am a Viet kieu been living here full time for 10 yrs I can tell you being timid / generous gets you no where, this is a bargaining dog eat dog culture, acting that way just makes you look weak and ripe for a fleecing, when I say bargain I don't mean haggling like you are haggling over a fish at the wet markets, you need to game the girl into giving you the best service for the current price or even less if possible. This is my strategy and there are many ways of doing this that I can't be bothered to write but this doesn't work, involves far too much work at places where guys who think they are doing themselves a favour when they tip the girls extra. The guys you tip 100 k get MORE than that from the girls as the girls pay the guys a % to get at the top of the que, so its pointless the most I tip is 20-50 k for the guys helping me in the locker. There are better ways to get the hot girl rather getting the locker guys to send them your way. But the easiest way is to reject girls till you get one you are happy with (within reason 2-3 rejections), if you come off as too difficult or time waster you will also be in a bind.
Speaking in half assed Viet is just as bad as speaking in English so that would make no difference, the biggest component is knowledge and attitude just like it is in any business transaction, if you walk in a nice guy who doesn't know the ropes then you will be given the least effort / service for the highest price full stop.[/QUOTE]
The prices you pay in VN had tip already because it includes a foreigner tax. You can only avoid if you speak Vietnamese and can pass as a local.
For example, a ticket for a regular massage (nice place like Minh tam or dai nam) is about 300 k. Locals get a HJ with it, and typically tip another 300 k. Foreigners have to negotiate at least 500 k.
[QUOTE=LetThemEatSake;2180560]Nice reality check. Good post.[/QUOTE]
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Very interesting list with prices, tips, etiquette. I particularly will try the district 8 and 10 options as it seems a bit more out of the beaten path. Enjoy!